theorycrafting

[ocean turret]

I think weve seen it before

[terse valley]

no we dont

[ocean turret]

Except the stats

[remote fern]

What the hell am I looking at

[terse valley]

shieldmaxxing

[remote fern]

Do we have stats to start essence farming?

[ocean turret]

Im sure its crit rate bonus

Cause her kit revolves around it

But the rest are just speculation

Either agility or main attribute

[remote fern]

Do we know what in world manufacture the weapon comes from?

[terse valley]

highly unlikely

first line likely agi
second and passive is definitely not crit and twilight

[ocean turret]

Physical dmg?

There's no way its atk%

[terse valley]

lmao it's probably like atk or smething

[ocean turret]

[edgy crater]

agi artzy

[remote fern]

Twilight is usually for Main DPS/Hyper carry, unlikely for a sub DPS

[terse valley]

twilight is already her BP weapon passive

[icy remnant]

It should be Agi Artzy

[remote fern]

It works on Chen

[icy remnant]

Crit fracture

[terse valley]

folk it's not gonna be crit 😭

[icy remnant]

Watch it become the new Chen BIS

[icy remnant]

You sure

[terse valley]

if there is crit it's gonna be listed on the passive

[terse valley]

i am sure

[icy remnant]

You seen the

D

[terse valley]

no

[icy remnant]

Then ur not sure xd

I’m sure

[terse valley]

look at every single BP weapon we have and compare it with their signature counterpart

first line always the same, second line and passive always different

[icy remnant]

I mean the D also showed the TT sig perfectly

[terse valley]

wtf is the D

[icy remnant]

And currently the D is showing Agi Crit fracture

[terse valley]

WHAT IS THE D

[icy remnant]

Checking that it’s not against the rules

[terse valley]

deez nuts

[terse raptor]

datamine

[icy remnant]

But datamines

So unless they changed it last minute it’s just Agi Crit Fracture

[terse valley]

well if it is crit then that means hg is inconsistent

[icy remnant]

They’re probably just adjusting values

[icy remnant]

They never said it was a rule they had to follow with the BP

A sample size of 5 is very low lol

[icy remnant]

Wait huh

But the BP weapon

Is also Agi Crit

[terse valley]

I have stated it as a rule therefore it is

[icy remnant]

Agi Crit Twilight
Sig is Agi Crit Fracture

Oh you said it must be different

Bruh

[terse valley]

is the heat getting to you

[remote fern]

Medicant

[icy remnant]

There are so many stats the 2nd line can be

[terse valley]

rossi ult now HEALS the team

[terse raptor]

so her sig is just agi version of artzy

[terse valley]

presumably

[icy remnant]

But yea a sample size of 4 to say the 2nd line can’t be the same is way too low
There’s no rule established

Watch Rossis sig be the new BIS for Chen

[terse valley]

nah its gonna be heat dmg%

that'd be mad funny

[terse raptor]

i hope her sig p0 is better than bp p5, if not it would be disastrous

[icy remnant]

On herself it probably will be

But if it’s like heat dmg% on Ult cast

Rip Chen

[terse raptor]

yeah no way it's gonna be bis

for chen

[terse valley]

rip chen regardless

rest in piss

[icy remnant]

Chen is gonna be that unit that randomly gets a new BIS sword every few months

While everyone else has a sig

[edgy crater]

nah, should be crit based

n dat mean, possible chen mi set

[remote fern]

And Wulfguard will always have his best as 5 star gun lol

[icy remnant]

I hope we just make Wulfgard irrelevant soon
I don’t like using him

Make Mifu the Wulfgard replacement

[terse raptor]

nahh too early

make the polearm guy replace wulf

[remote fern]

Leaks have 2 heat characters coming in next 2-3 patches

[terse raptor]

[icy remnant]

Ayo

Wait shit I skipped Laevs weapon

Well it’s only 9%

Hopefully they don’t make her sig more important

[remote fern]

It’s very niche, I think you’ll be fine

[icy remnant]

I assume heat characters will be Laev support

I currently use BP P5 on her

[remote fern]

1.3 we get green onion lady

[icy remnant]

Honestly right now I only care about Mifu

I’m interested in her and maybe Lycia the Talulah lookalike

[remote fern]

She the one with beef against tang?

[icy remnant]

Can you even call that beef
||Mifu is probably the one that secretly leaves rations by the wall for them to “steal”||

But yes “beef”

[daring dove]

Mifu’s basically like her disappointed big sister.

[manic mountain]

If i wanted minimum investment for now, should I M1 Tangtan's Battle Skill or Ultimate?

[ripe adder]

guys whats the new updated lae gear?

[compact bridge]

Combo skill to m3 tbh

[icy remnant]

Just changing the chest to the Redeemer chest
A 0.6% increase in dps

[ripe adder]

might do that

[terse valley]

0.6% wow! what a deal!

[half chasm]

Is peak

[drifting berry]

Now that I think about it we are getting another maintenance for Rossi because dev really wanted to keep Rossi's number hidden

Hope is not to long

[half chasm]

what

[drifting berry]

Like as far as I'm concern Rossi or her weapon are not on the game, even if you datamine you will not find nothing. So they would need to make an update to add her

instead of the banner just starting right after tt

[inland quarry]

How is new umbral with electric teams? I've heard it's not very good for them. If so, why?

[ivory gale]

does anyone know a good damage calculator
one that calculates each individual damage for basic and skills

[dry kindle]

excel

[ivory gale]

found one

[fresh trench]

if i wanna boost perlica damage,who should be good team for her

i can only think of ardelia

[icy remnant]

Gilberta is a pretty easy one since they synergise perfectly

[fresh trench]

i am not regret not getting gil,but now im regret cause she is in 90% of silly team i wanna build

[icy remnant]

Perlica dps would just want raw buffing power since she doesn’t consume any stacks

[peak void]

xaihi might be unironically good for perlica

[fresh trench]

Qyurii xaihi buff nature and cryo damage

[icy remnant]

I regret not getting Gil myself
She’s probably one of the most versatile units

[peak void]

oh nvm

i was only thinking about her bs

[fresh trench]

interesting,might try it

[peak void]

akekuri for link then

[icy remnant]

When you roll for Laev you only get a Laev team
But if you roll Gilberta you are rolling for almost every team except Phys

Every team can use her in some form

[fresh trench]

same goes for ardelia but something like 1100 wills gil sound funny to me and i regret i cant do it cause i dont have her

[peak void]

you can offrate her

[icy remnant]

Ardelia consumes SP

[peak void]

go forth

[fresh trench]

dont say that,someone else come from offrate...

[icy remnant]

I am saving till Mifu

[peak void]

i got 2 yvonne from offrate

this girl beg me PLEASE

[icy remnant]

My savings so far

[fresh trench]

who have the least energy for ult usage and int as main stats?

is it perlica? i wanna see if i can make her spam ult

[icy remnant]

Here I thought she was already spamming it like crazy

Combo skill spam regens a lot

[fresh trench]

how fast can you spam it,that is a funny question i have this morning,chen is fastest with only 70 energy and 15% reduction with her potency

but she use agility and most ultimate gain is int

(she will explode from brain overload)

[peak void]

wait what

int gives ult gain?

[fresh trench]

no no most gear with ult gain is int

tahts all

[peak void]

oh

perlica has the low low ult cost of 68 at p4

kind of dirt cheap tbh

[fresh trench]

yeah,i wanna know if i do something like how people do with lae to make her gain ult faster

if i can make her spam ult like every seconds just to see

1000 int perlica

💀

[rare zodiac]

Don’t think that style will be gud, ult gain Lae only gud at high pot because high dmg% from sig

[icy remnant]

It isn’t even good
It’s pretty much a copium build

You spread your damage out such a wide window that you need the boss to pretty much sit there for you to basic attack to not lose dps

[odd wren]

[terse valley]

can link damage even crit

[icy remnant]

How much damage does your Pog do

[odd wren]

Shitty hahahaha

[terse valley]

ok does link crit affected by the skill consuming it like perlica ult crit bonus

[icy remnant]

Link is just a damage buff

It’s not a separate damage

[odd wren]

Link only on one hit buff right?

Its not gonna buff the whole multi hit skill

[icy remnant]

Just think of it as an extra multiplier on your Ult or skill

[icy remnant]

That’s not true

Laev enhanced skill is 3 hits and it buffs the entire thing

[terse valley]

so if perlica ult crits the link also calculated before the crit?

awesome

[odd wren]

Okok thanks

[icy remnant]

Also you link LiFengs Ult

If it worked the way you wanted it would’ve been a really shitty combo

😭

Buffing only 1 part of a 3 part Ult

[terse raptor]

[fresh trench]

i have lifeing i have no idea what he do

but i like his combo skill

[icy remnant]

I’m just waiting for the day I can drop LiFeng so I can stop using his skill that takes 2 years to land

[rugged vale]

that wiffs if the mob just walks like 2cm

[woeful wren]

Heyaa, soo Rossi is good in a Endmin, Perlica, Chen, Team right

[drifting berry]

In the 📌 guide there's a section for Rossi speculations. And both Endmin and Perlica should be decent option tho not entirely sure yet is they will belong to the same team.

Ch'en is not directly mention but the sheet mentions Rossi needing and additional source of vuln

[edgy elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541760801968128/1482051629774671872/03132.gif

credits to clown^

[peak void]

right, antal

[edgy elk]

popping in from #team-build . sup yall

[peak void]

nm

Im popping in from #aic-factory lol

[edgy elk]

nothing to do

[peak void]

I wanna calc perly gear but im lazy

[edgy elk]

ig i'll go pat cows

[edgy elk]

for what

[peak void]

i want a perly build that has
1: ~33% uge
2: maximizes AI
3: maximizes personal dmg

so far im thinking x3 pulser + redeemer slab

[woeful wren]

Well... Chen can give 2 stacks of vulnerability (both combo and battle skills), then Rossi consumes Perlica's Arts Reaction to add 2 more stacks of vulnerability then Endmin uses his/her battle skill for the hyper Crush w/crystal combo from Endmin

though Endmin can just apply Vulnerability, then Rossi's Battle skill, Perlica's Battle skill, then Rossi's combo skill

[peak void]

i lose out a bit on AI but i get a lot more personal dmg thanks to pulser set buff

im not a fan of the hotworks build in iana sheet cus its just AI stacking

x3 pulser + xiranite gloves wouldve been great but its not enough uge

[edgy elk]

yeah, that and ult

whos team?

[peak void]

LR

[cinder oxide]

Does the agi or the atk% on tt sig provide a stronger boost

[edgy elk]

with this, 26.9+53.8+30=110.7 ai -> 24.6% electrify (vs 29.4% at max ai)

[next helm]

This second umbral is annoying

[edgy elk]

maybe perl's subdps can make up for that
(not that she'll deal anything in LR)

[next helm]

Laevs final basic attack puts her in the fire ring

[peak void]

thats the plan~

[edgy elk]

m3 ult time

[peak void]

well she’ll still deal a bit, i trust

have her on oblivion too

[edgy elk]

stanza 2nd line full artifice

oh-

[peak void]

Yeap

im that kinda guy

[edgy elk]

make an LR team hotswap perly finisher rotation

[peak void]

oh hell nah

i cant hotswap for the r life of me

can only pilot 1 per team

too much thinking

[edgy elk]

obli for ult only
respecc

[peak void]

I mean LR dmg is already good

🤷

Ill probably swap to stanza when i wanna do stuff like phase skip

but for most things i like oblivion

[icy remnant]

It’s enough UGE if you have Gilberta since she gives 7%

26.7%+7%=33.7%

[peak void]

I want her to be flexible

not need gilb

[icy remnant]

Perlica and Gilberta are the most common pairings

[edgy elk]

ehh lr xai perly gil tt?

[icy remnant]

Cus of how well they synergise

It’s just a perfect pair

[peak void]

also the team is just full

[icy remnant]

Perlica+ Gil is the wheelchair

[peak void]

xaihi lr TT, and then i have to decide between perly and gilb

same case with yvonne

[edgy elk]

play gil with cor3+cs4+ult

[open narwhal]

wait what theory are we crafting here i never noticed

[edgy elk]

tt can make it happen

[edgy elk]

basically #team-build but with less newbies

[peak void]

we are cooking LR TT perly xaihi but perly has actual dmg instead of just being AI bot

[icy remnant]

I solve all these issues by simply not having either TT or Gilberta

[open narwhal]

owh numbers

[peak void]

that is great to hear bro

[icy remnant]

You can call me big brain

[peak void]

[icy remnant]

[edgy elk]

simplest solution is often the best.

[open narwhal]

hi big brain

[outer ermine]

nerd chat

[edgy elk]

oh hi

[icy remnant]

Imagine having units

[peak void]

bro just said im suffer from success

anw i think im good with 3x pulser + redeemer slab

[open narwhal]

overrated

[icy remnant]

I still haven’t even found Ember yet for my DiJiang

[edgy elk]

just don't rotate. smh
sacc that redeemer slab for the better slab (lynx)

[open narwhal]

i just got lifeng this afternoon so im officially have all character

[peak void]

FUCK LYNX SLAB

[open narwhal]

expire tomorrow but still full

[icy remnant]

Lifengs 16% regen from control room is goated

[edgy elk]

ah? what'd it do to u

[open narwhal]

from what i observe it has no hole, be careful

[peak void]

the early lynx propaganda was annoying

[icy remnant]

One day we will get a character that can use Lynx slab stats

[edgy elk]

make one.
we pull weapons for a reason

[peak void]

thankfully now its just yvonne

[edgy elk]

well tbf elec perly uses lynx

[peak void]

girl needs some atk smh

nope

[edgy elk]

for hotswap finisher

[peak void]

my elec perly will be a good girl and use redeemer

or there will be consequences

[open narwhal]

silly question, artzy is an ice gun right

[peak void]

we can make one

i mean whaaa

[edgy elk]

no. it's an ice handcannon

[open narwhal]

is the hole hot or cold

[edgy elk]

test it yourself

we aint crafting that kind of theory

[peak void]

Well its not hotworks so maybe cold

[open narwhal]

sr mb keep minecrafting

[edgy elk]

[peak void]

yea can we get back to theorycrafting

uhh is rossi good

[icy remnant]

I upgraded LiFeng from lvl80 to 90 today and burnt 800k T credits

What is life

[edgy elk]

life + ng

[rugged vale]

lv90 is such a scam

[peak void]

wow

[edgy elk]

answer's right there. u alr solved it.

now get his wep 90

[icy remnant]

I did

[edgy elk]

[icy remnant]

I figured hey I had some T credits

No, 1mill T credits was nothing

I’m broke again

I have 200k left

Gonna save abit for Mifu

[manic mountain]

I use Alesh on my Tangtang+Gil+Perlica team and I think the only time I can trigger Alesh's combo skill is when I shatter solidification?

[edgy elk]

yes.

that's why alesh is omegacope

[icy remnant]

Oh ya I tested Phys on the Bull in Umbral and it was surprisingly easy if you can time the staggers

It cleared faster than my Laev team

[edgy elk]

but then alesh plays the same with yvonne. solidify->shatter and yvonne's last hit on ult

[icy remnant]

You can time staggers during the animation he enrages to stop him from enraging at all

[manic mountain]

I dont have yvonne 🙁

[icy remnant]

And just win

[edgy elk]

nah yvonne's just an example to prove a point. alesh cs doesn't trigger as frequently as we'd like, outside shatter team

[icy remnant]

Alesh and Estella belong together

They’re team shatter

[manic mountain]

Tangtang battle -> Alesh battle (solidified) -> Gilberta combo/battle -> Alesh combo is the fastest way to trigger it I think in my randombullshit go team

[edgy elk]

also where's ur xai in a cryo mdps team

usually if used alesh subs in for perly

[manic mountain]

This is my like open world aoe sucking team

[edgy elk]

ah......fine

[open narwhal]

yes rossie its a scam

[manic mountain]

gilberta sucks you in alesh solidifies you

I mean..

[open narwhal]

im in

yooooo freaky

[peak void]

what the

[open narwhal]

and i thought im the only one

[edgy elk]

so perly's there for vibes

[open narwhal]

nvm today the wind is just strong

[manic mountain]

To supervise Soupsoup

[manic mountain]

If incase I want to bring in , who do I remove?

[open narwhal]

wait u do soup soup dps?

[edgy elk]

well in speedier versions u could honestly use gil to corro4 then alesh ult -> alesh bs -> gil cs -> alesh cs (thermite 2 stack)

[open narwhal]

whats alesh doing in soup dps comp

[open narwhal]

aye nice cropping

[summer flicker]

aura farming

[manic mountain]

Yes, she is my open world aoe dps with gilberta sucking

[edgy elk]

camera angle

[icy remnant]

What exactly does dps mean in this context

[manic mountain]

Dopamine per second?

[edgy elk]

damage per skill

[open narwhal]

dont punish soup

for exploding your aic

[edgy elk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1487033148176072765/soupreme_chief_aic.gif

[manic mountain]

Trying not to be gay

[open narwhal]

hes defo gay

he is happy

happy as hell when us kissing

[manic mountain]

Who you calling gay

[open narwhal]

yes papi

relaxing my throat

[manic mountain]

but going back to my Soupsoup aoe sucking

[icy remnant]

[manic mountain]

idk who to remove if I slot in Xaihi

do I even need her?

[open narwhal]

but fr what his ass doing in tang tang dps comp?

[icy remnant]

What does Xaihi even do in your team

Do you even have time to do 2 basic attack chains

[manic mountain]

Trying to prove that he is not gay by being with 3 women

[open narwhal]

being with 3 teenager?

just a cool uncle

[manic mountain]

idk, I dont have her. I have Soup, Perlica, Gil and Gayboy

[open narwhal]

cant prove he is not gay

[manic mountain]

Soup and Gil I cant replace, else it beats the aoe sucking

Perlica and Alesh can be replaced, Perlica is just there to supervise Soup

[next helm]

Help channel is a cool place

Immediately get flamed cause I can't clear

[manic mountain]

They sometimes direct me here

[next helm]

[manic mountain]

I have been using Alesh in my Phys team istead of Pog

I feel like I get more SP regen

keyword: Feel

[open narwhal]

try ragebating

its fun

and freaky too

defo helped my cortisol level

[manic mountain]

So uhmm who do I repalce gayboy with?

[next helm]

xaihi

[manic mountain]

Due to her armpits?

WHICH IS 100% valid btw.

[open narwhal]

yes mainly bc her armpit

cryo amp and heal is the cherry on top

[manic mountain]

What gear do I put her on, since Gil is already on xiranite

[open narwhal]

double xiranite

[next helm]

2 pipes

redeemer chest

xira gloves

[manic mountain]

Pipes from the frontier?

[open narwhal]

just to make sure the amp is up all time

[next helm]

Pipes from frontier yeh

[edgy elk]

bru what
u just gonna ignore 70% amp?

idk i entered this chat to see this^

[next helm]

7

[edgy elk]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[chilly bolt]

ragebait successfully

[manic mountain]

What amp, Xaihi is here for the armpits!

I dont evne know what Xaihi does but it doesnt matter

[glacial sable]

How to build damage Xaihi

[edgy elk]

put her with the best cryo supporter, xaihi
oh wait-

[glacial sable]

I see!!!

[manic mountain]

Should I bring detonation unit for her in this comp?

[glacial sable]

Can solo Xaihi deal damage...

[edgy elk]

yeah you'll prolly trigger it

[manic mountain]

ok

[manic mountain]

Will this also trigger armpit sweat? Asking for a friend.

[glacial sable]

Totes

[chilly bolt]

[glacial sable]

Explosions -> Heat -> Sweat, trust.

[edgy elk]

deto (statstick) < chiv < deto (procced)
calcs done for vonne team multipliers but u get the idea

[glacial sable]

Deto what and deto what.😭

[manic mountain]

Btw is thre an INT cap for Xaihi's amp?

[icy remnant]

He’s using it for his overworld TangTang Gilberta team to kill mooks

[edgy elk]

1.2k. ur not gonna reach it

[manic mountain]

damn 1.2k

no worries

[edgy elk]

oh.......
i mean. anything can kill overworld tho

[icy remnant]

How will you even trigger Xaihis combo skill or ult in the overworld

Ur just using a blank unit

[edgy elk]

i thought overworld was just.. yk... using ur main team to kill trash mobs

[icy remnant]

I mean that’s what he was asking and that’s how I replied

[edgy elk]

so might as well make a main team right

eh fair enough

[next helm]

You can theorycraft the best overworld team

[manic mountain]

Yes but, killing them with sucking and armpits is different

[next helm]

convince me Im wrong

[edgy elk]

guys guys we found smthing to do!! is this the real endgame??^

[icy remnant]

Endmin+ Chen

Maybe Gilberta for AoE

[manic mountain]

that random land breaker gonna be uninstalled with 1M final hit on chen ultimate

[peak void]

Man this chat sucks

[glacial sable]

The real end game is having m12 on every char you own and mats to spare.

[icy remnant]

Endmin gonna crush with 2 Vuln and even the tankiest overworld unit dies

[manic mountain]

Give me about.. 4years

[edgy elk]

level lae?

when hell freezes over. she'll be a dijang slave til endfield eos
-# i swore loyalty to cryo

[icy remnant]

I have Laev, Last rite and Phys as my 3 teams

[glacial sable]

It's gonna be like 14 if they're like 'myes let's add some more 4*/5*'....

[icy remnant]

Phys is by far the most fun of the 3 for me

[edgy elk]

module

[icy remnant]

Last Rite is fun because she’s so clunky it adds difficulty

[manic mountain]

I wish they would add that whats her name that medical girl in loadspring

[glacial sable]

No. Please no.

[manic mountain]

Molly I think

[edgy elk]

random npc go?

[manic mountain]

and that other girl in the power plat the one that runs away after her quest

[manic mountain]

TEAM MIDRIFF!

[edgy elk]

ok. thought you might say that

shoulda pulled vonne smh

[manic mountain]

I did not have enough free currency to pull vonne

[glacial sable]

I'm gonna be so honest.

No clue who.

[manic mountain]

Its that NPC where you invetsigate on who is sellig the goods to the land breakers

someday.. ill remember

[glacial sable]

Uhhhh

Is that a green quest or a blue quest?

[manic mountain]

The quest conclusion is that she joins the security team

I cant remember the qyest color

i think gree, that was just a side quest

[glacial sable]

Yeah I have amnesia, sorry.

[manic mountain]

Shawna!

[civic wolf]

37700 oroberyl worth of pulls rn.

I'm assuming it's basically impossible to afford Rossi for me lol

[rugged vale]

Save for Fangyi

[open narwhal]

"ampit"

fuck god im funny

[manic mountain]

makes total sense!

[sinful peak]

Rossi possible teams

[ocean turret]

alot

almost 20 combinations

[open narwhal]

tang tang

[stable oxide]

@twilit quail why chiv is more recommended than det in tangtang lr team comp but is less recommended if no tangtang? just wondering

for xaihi i mean

[buoyant yoke]

Stat saturation of increased arts dmg taken I assume

[honest hill]

fr?

[chilly bolt]

Is dmg taken even that saturated?

[frozen tide]

they are generally extremely close and whichever one has higher pot is oftentimes just better if deto proc is applicable

[frozen tide]

yes if perli ele and tt sig

deto on top of that

becomes big number

[honest hill]

I have P2 deto and P0 chiv

who wins?

[drifting quest]

depends

needs more info

[honest hill]

like what

[chilly bolt]

Everything

[summer flicker]

do prefer chiv

because when in farming: chiv procs easier

[honest hill]

ye ik u need the heals

[summer flicker]

clueless

[honest hill]

smh

[drifting quest]

full team would be a start

[summer flicker]

no, not the heals, the buff

[honest hill]

whel w major skill issues

[chilly bolt]

Deto uptime is so bad

[frozen tide]

deto also scales more with pots(does not mean deto better at high pots)

[drifting quest]

then weapons, gear, investment levels on said gear, any other relevant potentials
food or no food buff?

[honest hill]

okay wait

[summer flicker]

deto uptime is not good for energy avulium, etc

chiv is better for farming in a sense

[honest hill]

P0 LR w Sig - frontier armour + 3pc tide, P0 TT w Sig - Heavy T2 bone armour + 2 bone kits + MI sec/bone glove, P5 Perli w Stanza - Aether gloves + 3pc Pulsar, P5 Xaihi w deto/chiv - int maxxing w redeemer armour + 2 frontier kits + xira gloves @drifting quest

no food buffs

[honest hill]

that makes sense yea

btw how comes w have Voice Channels but we can't use em

[drifting quest]

what perlica AI

and what xaihi int without weapon equipped

[honest hill]

168

[drifting quest]

what potential on stanza

[honest hill]

716 int w P2 deto, 633 int w P0 chiv

[drifting quest]

p0p0 for both 6*?

[honest hill]

P5

[ocean turret]

whats bis for akekuri?

if i dont have termite

[drifting quest]

depends on team

obj if it can proc

fortmaker otherwise

[honest hill]

LR and TT have their sigs yes all P0

[edgy elk]

ehh isnt it 729 with deto (p0), 660 with chiv?

[honest hill]

Mine is not fully artificed

[edgy elk]

ahh

p2 deto tho lucky

[ocean turret]

hmmmmmm

[edgy elk]

(or unlucky since u prolly lost a sig for that)

[honest hill]

missing int from tubes and this missing 2 ish %

[honest hill]

one I got from pulling box

[ocean turret]

on phys

[drifting quest]

then obj does not proc, evidently

[ocean turret]

so fort maker it is

[edgy elk]

nope.
chiv (left) should still be worse than deto (right) unless rot reasons.
but only for single hit, not accounting for uptime

[drifting quest]

xaihi masteries?

[honest hill]

lv 7 bs, m3 ult

does lv 9 bs give anything

[drifting quest]

yes

[honest hill]

amp wise?

it goes up?

[drifting quest]

l9 increases amp from 11 to 13%

[frozen tide]

i mean yeah if no perli

[sterile patrol]

chiv uptime better

[honest hill]

oh

[drifting quest]

m3 increases amp from 13 to 15%

[frozen tide]

dmg taken is not saturated at all

[edgy elk]

i'll swap gil out, one sec...

[honest hill]

okay then

lv 9

bs

[drifting quest]

yeah i mean i assumed this was purely for burst window

[honest hill]

yeah burst window

[drifting quest]

because if its generic damage then chiv is active more often so buffs tangtang skills

so it wins

[honest hill]

so like in umbral w no ults

chiv wins

[drifting quest]

if its precharged ult burst window deto should be winning

[honest hill]

hm I see

so it only wins precharged ults

what about longer battles

like say against marble

[edgy elk]

true enough margin got a lot smaller with tt perl. deto still wins slightly (?) but maybe not in total damage anymore
and yeah deto's good for fast rots. chiv gets more value in long fights

[edgy elk]

u mean u don't burst marble down in one cycle?

(tentacles would prolly prefer chiv lol)

[honest hill]

I mean tentacles

they ARE the actual boss

[edgy elk]

chiv yeah. ur not gonna proc deto on tentacles

and ig chiv for fights where u have to switch targets. cuz deto's just a debuff

[honest hill]

yeah

so umbral mainly chiv

because multiple targets

[edgy elk]

umbral i've been procrastinating

[honest hill]

u didn't do it

huhh

[gaunt mason]

how fast can a non whaled lr clear the third one?

[edgy elk]

when i wake up tmr i'll try it all with lr solo

[chilly bolt]

solo ?

[proud vector]

is it

[chilly bolt]

isnt there a lr solo vid already

[proud vector]

finally rossi time tomorrow

[edgy elk]

yeah
i just wanna do it for kicks

it's not like im a yt or anything

[gaunt mason]

third one is fun solo

[chilly bolt]

i wonder what chest is better for lr solo

[golden rapids]

thats how it ends if I dodge every possible attack, is it because of tt gear? i didnt unlock that place yet where u get them

[chilly bolt]

yinglung swordmancer or aethertech

[edgy elk]

i aint got funds to artifice those lol

i'll just run frontiers as normal and pretend i'm speedkilling rho or smth

[chilly bolt]

💀

[golden rapids]

what is that

[gaunt mason]

did you read the stage info

[edgy elk]

boss is mad

[golden rapids]

no

[golden rapids]

do i pet him

[gaunt mason]

[edgy elk]

think of him like a burdenbeast.

[golden rapids]

done, nothings new tho

[edgy elk]

good cow. good cow.

[dusk isle]

They force you to non-solo in 3-1

[marsh lion]

anyone know whats the best Rossi team?

theorycraft wise ofc haha

[edgy elk]

werent u the one who cleared 3 solo?

[drifting quest]

no because we do not have rossi numbers

[dusk isle]

Not even ult iframes saves you from the kidnapping

[edgy elk]

gg btw. how was it

[marsh lion]

hmm true that

[dusk isle]

The first stage is impossible solo

Afaik

[proud vector]

whats the ETA

[gaunt mason]

bruh

[edgy elk]

i'll have to bring my e1 chen

[proud vector]

is it tomorrow

[gaunt mason]

clear the fire stacks when it reaches 4

save your sp

[drifting quest]

a few hours before her banner goes up, if not as soon as her banner goes up

[proud vector]

i'm losin traaack

[marsh lion]

2 more days from now i think

[drifting quest]

most likely

[marsh lion]

in my timezone

[drifting quest]

its like sunday

[marsh lion]

i think exactly 36 hrs from now?

[chilly bolt]

just bring a sacrifice and call it a solo

[marsh lion]

38 i mean

[proud vector]

pain is my body, suffering is my soul

[honest hill]

P5 ur LR

[main nova]

https://tenor.com/view/han-solo-me-gif-23242982

[dusk isle]

It was fine, but it was kinda buggy imo

[main nova]

oh wait i dont think young one know this man

[dusk isle]

Fund me

[dusk isle]

My lv5 yvonne would happily sacrifice herself

[honest hill]

ur asking a peasant to fund u?

[dusk isle]

Idk you are the thing youll find a way

[honest hill]

I'm sending u to the mines

get to work peasant

[ocean turret]

i keep running on abberant

havent collected everything yet

[dusk isle]

Sin can you run this for me if you have the time

[edgy elk]

ima sleep lol. Got smwhere to be in 3h

[dusk isle]

Alr thanks anyway

[edgy elk]

Maybe after. Or someone else w a calculator

[dusk isle]

Im was just curious about something

Nothing important

[edgy elk]

What is it? Maybe I ran alr

[dusk isle]

Gnight gng

[dusk isle]

P5 deto vs p1 chiv

[edgy elk]

Oh lmao

Can’t relate

[dusk isle]

Got lucky on khra banner

[edgy elk]

But deto is def more than chiv alr in same pot comparison right, p5 would be overwhelming win

Btw those calcs only for one frame, im not bothered to do calcs over an entire rot

[dusk isle]

Im just wondering how much less p1 chiv would do for burst

[edgy elk]

Okok I’ll run it once I wake up

Check back in 4h or smth

[dusk isle]

I still dont have chiv essence and i got curious while farming

You dont have to if you dont have the time

[edgy elk]

Eh I got time. Just not rn

[dusk isle]

Alr thank you

[edgy elk]

Welp cya in a bit

[dusk isle]

Sleep well

[edgy elk]

oh lmao force of habit

ran it

deto p5 (left) vs chiv p1 (right)

@dusk isle

u run lr tt gil? or perli

[dusk isle]

Holly, thanks for your time

[edgy elk]

margin will be a lot bigger with gil there

name's s1n not holly
holly sounds cute tho when can we pull her

[dusk isle]

Honestly i run both since i like them for different things

[chilly bolt]

does anyone have tt calcs for mi hands build vs slab build

[edgy elk]

nope🥀

tbh i'd like to see that too. for both mdps and subdps

[gaunt mason]

iirc it was like 3-5% better for mdps

[edgy elk]

@dusk isle lr tt gil running cor3->cs4->ult, numbers for ult last hit, p5 deto (left) vs p1 chiv (right)
idk if you'd even get that far with ur p3 LR prolly will one shot on cs or smth

[dusk isle]

Thanks for your effort

[fresh trench]

i putting this here cause its look funny

[chilly bolt]

Use hotwork hands too

[torn pilot]

Which? Sticking to hands?

You guys are still using bonecrusha on tangtang right?

[chilly bolt]

Yes cuz nobody is running tt main dps

[honest hill]

wait they added vc back

[chilly bolt]

Wait both builds have bonekhrusha

[honest hill]

[summer flicker]

[honest hill]

oh nvm

[smoky quarry]

I wonder if it's better than 3x pulser and slab

[fresh trench]

after testing with ardelia i think not,the set effect is always better 50% more damage

but that was when i didnt fully upgrade its int

[smoky quarry]

I just noticed that laeva had no essense on her sword, that's why I coudn't complete umbral

I forgot to swap it out from stanza

oops

[chilly bolt]

Just have 2 of it

[smoky quarry]

I have second essense, it's just lowlevel

I swap it from sword to stanza when I want to play electroparty

[fresh trench]

the fact that antal actually have a little more int make me wonder how much int i can do... I AM NOT UPGRADE ANTAL

[smoky quarry]

agony is a sweatshop

[smoky quarry]

On the other side, perlica has less buff uptimate

ardelia cs cd is 15 seconds, perlica is 20

buff duration is 10 seconds

so it's 66% against 50%

[fresh trench]

yeah but i wont get into math to see if its better tho,it sound fun for #theorycrafting

[smoky quarry]

Waifu player doesn't concerns himself with viability

m12 someday someday

[fresh trench]

you can do it!,i always think perlica is viable since the gmae start tho

as main dps i meant

her ult is huge scaling

[smoky quarry]

Her kit is kinda boring for main dps, she's great sub though

[fresh trench]

the heck u meant 1000%

[smoky quarry]

i probably shoudnt abbreviate sub-dps to sub

[gritty briar]

wow me too

[smoky quarry]

I should spend 80 artifice catalysts on perlica next week

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-my-beloved-gif-22029076

[gritty briar]

good choice!

[fresh trench]

12 trust

[smoky quarry]

I'll find out with empirical method

When I'll get everything artificed, I have some parts already

I'll just run perlica on rhodagn with ambulance team

Perlica - Akekuri - Antal - Gilberta

and check which set will kill him faster

Since you reapply bs on the last seconds of the focus, it's actually free?

[smoky quarry]

I thought this potential is trash, but

[gritty briar]

wait why is there 30 muted people in vc?

[smoky quarry]

melting point sucks

a just look at it and think

[tight haven]

poker night?

[smoky quarry]

"is this bitch ever gonna stop spinning"

no

this challenge is so ass

[tight haven]

just dodge smile

[real mist]

do crit chance stats in gears just suck or why does basic atk dmg is preferred even with signature for yvonne. that means you only have like 42% crit at base.

[smoky quarry]

I'd rate this umbral at 9/10 on the scale of how much my ass burns from it

First one is 0/10
Second is 5/10 (5 for 2 rams)

[fresh trench]

💀

[smoky quarry]

I mean, I could stretch it to the 10 whole minutes

[icy remnant]

Phys and Freeze cancelling the flame throwers again

They really love Phys

[smoky quarry]

Phys in stage 3 is cancer

Broken rotation, can't convert heat with reaction

[icy remnant]

I cleared stage 3 with Phys in like 1min 20

Or less

[smoky quarry]

are we playing different games or something

[icy remnant]

You can stagger the boss during his enrage

So he never enrages

Proc first stagger mid bar during his jump where he wants to enrage

And then full stagger him after

Then kill

It’s not hard

A few people already did it

[ashen scroll]

Same reason when people join your monster hunter or any co op game loby but have mute mic

[pearl cypress]

I did 3rd stage with an Ember physical stagger team. Did not plan out my staggers well and ember helped with sustain. It was mostly learning patience for the attack cycle of all the jumping

[icy remnant]

For Phys if for some reason you let him enrage you can also stagger him right after he consumes his own heat stacks

[drifting quest]

current yvonne gear is ba/ba/cr/matt
cr kit is 13.5% cr at max artifice
base cr is 5%
mi sec is 5% base, 5% more conditionally
Artzy and Wedge are 19.5% cr
Navigator is 9.8% base, 5.6-11.2% extra conditionally
Yvonne ult is 30% cr

So
Artzy/Wedge = 78% during end of ult
Navi = 79.5% during end of ult
Which is pretty comfortable in general, but some people will opt for a second cr kit (13.5% more) for consistentcy if they wish for it, sacrificing damage

[icy remnant]

This makes it so he consumes them without gaining any damage resistance

And you just kill him

[real mist]

I wouldn't really say 78% is comfortable considering units with buff like this are often reached to 100%, but I guess it's just different in this game.

[drifting quest]

even in other gacha in the genre the sweet spot tends to be 70-80% for most units

but again some people will take more cr

if they want it

[real mist]

meh, in zzz you get characters like 25% crit buffs and you are hitting overcapping.

I think it goes with WuWa too

[icy remnant]

Over capping is inefficient

Normally people just build towards crit damage or other stats when crit gets high enough

[drifting quest]

crit is a lot rarer in this game and generally a lot worse to chase due to no cdmg

[real mist]

exactly, just saying that 25% crit is already close to overcapping, while 30% crit buff on this game is still only 78% at best

[icy remnant]

It’s not at best

Did you read

You can opt for 13.5% more crit rate if you want to

But it’s not efficient

[real mist]

and lose damage yeah I know

that's the point

[icy remnant]

Thats cus too high crit rate doesn’t matter if you don’t have damage to back it up

[drifting quest]

again other games in the genre have access to cdmg, a lot less multiplicative brackets and get far less attack and damage%

[ashen scroll]

Would rather have more interesting mechanic for damage than just cr/cdmg slop

[real mist]

doesn't yvonne has 92% ~ dmg buff on her own sig?

how much difference is the crit vs basic dmg %?

is the basic dmg % multiplicative?

[chilly bolt]

It's crit vs slab, not basic%

[real mist]

it's the gloves

[chilly bolt]

The difference is like 7% ?

[real mist]

I doubt slab is changing anytime soon

[drifting quest]

anything in the same bracket is additive, e.g. all damage dealt% is additive
it is then multiplicative with any other bracker, e.g. crit damage and damage% is multiplicative

[icy remnant]

The slab is what replaced the 2nd 13.5% crit kit

[drifting quest]

so cryo damage% and basic damage% would be additive with each other

[icy remnant]

[real mist]

it's better replacing the slab than replacing the gloves with crit/basic dmg?

[icy remnant]

You need a 3 set what

[chilly bolt]

The hands is always basic% no?

I never seen anyone uses crit hands

[drifting quest]

basic% mi chest
basic% mi gloves
crit% mi kit
slab off piece

[real mist]

both are MI security gloves

[drifting quest]

is the current highest performing gear setup, damage wise

[real mist]

one has crit one has basic dmg %

[drifting quest]

you can swap the basic% mi gloves for crit mi gloves OR the slab for a second crit% mi kit if you really want the extra cr
which is 'better' to replace depends on the team, gear, etc. and isnt a simple one over the other situation

[signal sundial]

the dijiang operator levelling shall continue when i have more materials

[real mist]

you know what, this can be solve by getting her p2 , yeah I'll wait for her rerun

I'll probably try getting p5 anyways

[icy remnant]

You want to be below 100% crit rate anyways if you want to be able to use Ginseng

And any other future crit buffs

[real mist]

useless in umbral no?

[icy remnant]

Yea but still

People usually do the fancy clips in Re Crisis

[icy remnant]

I want to level Estella for her E4 base skill but so expensive

[real mist]

I guess were not getting a crit support for a while considering they aren't gonna make a support just for yvonne

[ashen scroll]

Rookie numbers

[icy remnant]

I mean you don’t need a crit support when a normal support also buffs crit units

[signal sundial]

i see you are well knowledged in the ways of old

[icy remnant]

It’s almost like discriminating the rest of the cast if you release a support that just buffs crit units

Might as well release a unit that buffs equally

[smoky quarry]

four event legendaries that go into same team let's go

[icy remnant]

I do think Gilberta fits Yvonne pretty much perfectly

Well aside from Ult duration lmao

[smoky quarry]

it's enough to buff whole yvonne ult, is it not?

[icy remnant]

No it misses the initial part

But pretty good

[real mist]

there's no crit damage scaling gear in this game right? I wonder how much they are gonna give crit damage later on. maybe double the ratio of the crit?

[icy remnant]

There is indeed a crit damage number we just don’t have units that utilizes it yet

It might just come as part of the kit for future units for all we know

Or some gear set

[smoky quarry]

Devs add new parts for crit damage
Catch: They are not part of MI set

[real mist]

and it still loses to slab 💀

[chilly bolt]

I think rossi has crit dmg% in her kit

[smoky quarry]

I've got only 55 pulls since I pulled gilberta

Where are they

I don't see promised "80 pulls" estimate that was in book keeping. The numbers were inflated after all

[marble iris]

Hey guys question but does TangTang's Zawarudo work on the last umbral boss?

[real mist]

they are gonna regret giving tangtang the ability to stop big bosses later on bruh

[signal sundial]

enter blind with laeva team

[smoky quarry]

just eat inflictions from him

[ashen scroll]

What dis

[full crown]

Does Xaiyi benefit much from Arts Intensity? I know she generally prefers Int over Will. Thinking of how much to level/etch Det Unit for her, and if it's worth tuning to 80/90 to get the final pips for either of the top 2 stat lines for her.

[chilly bolt]

Just a little bit more dmg from arts burst

And her heal scales with will fyi

[fresh trench]

i will be honest,i feel like this will waste so much resources that sometime i wish there is free testing with these gear

i menat if its for love of character i can see,but holy heck

[fossil pendant]

the free testing method is unfortunately called a spreadsheet

[fresh trench]

math

my monki brain is rot cause of sheep so i can mathing

[sick trellis]

TNT got blue version now

damn

[pure spoke]

Massive lats and arms and everything

Guy didnt skip any days

[daring dove]

Looks like we're unlikely to find anything more out about Rossi prior to her release

O well less than 48 hours from now I guess.

[rugged vale]

do we even know her sig ?

[fresh trench]

Lupine scarlet

[sick trellis]

ok be honest whos bathwater is this

[daring dove]

Nope other than what it looks like literally nothing about it officially.

[sick trellis]

u know its really sad u cant discharge this to pond

dark green color would be awesome

u see this?

[glass birch]

You know what sounds really stupid but might work surprisingly well? Rossi-Avy-Perl-Gilberta

[daring dove]

Just mix it in with the Wulling water, run an ad campaign about how waste water from the factory makes everyone live 10 years longer.

[warm galleon]

Just call it Endmin bath water and it will sell.

[peak void]

Does yvonne gain a new uge breakpoint at p1

hopefully one that is reachable by simply replacing lynx slab with redeemer slab

[edgy elk]

redeemer Vonne mentioned

Rip damage

[peak void]

Im aware

but if it can save me a whole 100sp, i just might

[outer ermine]

it is a speedrun tech option

[edgy elk]

I’m running vibes calcs on phone rn

[outer ermine]

[edgy elk]

What’s ur rotation looking like rn @peak void

How many stacks on bs to recharge ult

I’m assuming u use tt not gil for sp reasons

[peak void]

6 bs rn

4 inflic right

[edgy elk]

I think u can get in 4 inflic + 2 bs with redeemer? Idek if p1 is needed

Lemme check

[digital perch]

guy what is THE best yvonne team rn gilberta or per

[hasty grail]

if you used ult charge gloves at p1 you can ult in 2 inflicts, 2 combos, 2 skills

[edgy elk]

Vonne Gil TT Xai iirc

[peak void]

gil bs > yvonne bs, combo > tt bs, combo > xaihi bs, combo > tt combo, bs > yvonne bs, combo

[peak void]

thatll kill m1 tho

unless your saying 2 m1 kit?

[hasty grail]

no slab. Not saying it's optimal to do but it's an option you get now, which is what I thought you were asking about

[digital perch]

what would u guys recommend
Type 50 Yinglung Heavy Armor T1 or Bonekrusha Heavy Armor T2

[peak void]

how do i keep the m1 set buff with this new option youre talking abt

[hasty grail]

what do you mean? MI chest, xiranite gloves, 2 MI kits

[peak void]

i mean exactly what u js said lol

hmmm

why xiranite gloves tho

[fossil pendant]

lr tangtang xaihi gil feels kinda bricked not enough energy for gil to ult first rotation bc she can't combo without ult first

[peak void]

why not redeemer slab instead

[fossil pendant]

needs sig to ult but sig also doesnt do shit compared to stanza for that team

[digital perch]

anyone knows _

[peak void]

more int too if im not mistaken

[edgy elk]

Oh loop rotations
Nvm then

[hasty grail]

redeemer slab?

[fossil pendant]

yea starting with energy seems 100% fine

[hasty grail]

you mean the redeemer seal?

[edgy elk]

He means seal

[fossil pendant]

just starting from 0

its joever

[peak void]

oh seal mb

[edgy elk]

Slab propaganda got to u

[peak void]

hear me out, it looks like a fucking slab

ts brings out my inner dyslexic

[edgy crater]

as in on umbral?

[fossil pendant]

im just testing in recrisis rn but yea

same idea

I just dump all the ults before starting rot

[edgy elk]

Running numbers on phone rn. Not reliable!! But I’m pretty sure even without uge p1 Vonne comes VERY close to getting ult within 2stack+bs+cs and 1stack+bs+cs.

Ideally you’d want the second bs to segway into ur next burst sequence

Try with unartificed seal or smth, see if it checks out

[peak void]

so 3 stack possible without uge?

sounds nice

[edgy elk]

Like, I’m getting a few sp short. So need a little bit of uge

[hasty grail]

you get more attack yeah, but you trade also crit for battle skill damage. Whichever you want, they both give enough ult gain for it

[peak void]

is that cus of tt sp refund

[edgy elk]

Yeah but without it it’ll be so slow

[peak void]

tbf 6 bs is already slow

[edgy elk]

I did calcs with one tt sp refund and save the 2nd tt cs for ur next burst (suscep)

So ur only losing 20x.065 sp

Ykw fiiiine I’ll open AKE and playtest

[peak void]

Im ngl i might just go back to sleep

woke up 4am for some reason and now i have this on my mind lol

[pure spoke]

Mi fu when

[edgy elk]

Queue mifu when

[gritty briar]

tomorrow!

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ina-ninomae-inanis-inanis-tomorrow-day-gif-25547129

[peak void]

oh also does yvonne gain ult energy from other characters’ bs

or does she have some sort of energy lock like LR

[normal tangle]

yes

[peak void]

ok thats nice

[normal tangle]

it's still an ult cost of 220 though so like

[peak void]

i might make my own calc later to crosscheck with yours @edgy elk

[normal tangle]

not contributing much in the grand scheme of things

[peak void]

its somethin man

esp since my ahh gotta worry abt p1

maybe the extra 15 per combo will change smth in my rot

[edgy elk]

Please do

[edgy elk]

@peak void p1 Vonne with unartificed redeemer seal. I’m p4 (10 return on bs) and I still get ult, so ur p1 should too

tt bs x2 (once with return) + 1stack yv bs x2 + yv cs x2, + Xai bs (setup for next burst), gets u ur ult back.

You’re not capped by uge anymore but SP’s still a pain

[honest hill]

where the audio

[edgy elk]

Phone. No audio

I turned my audio off on phone

[honest hill]

no excuse hifumi had audio on his phone recordings

[edgy elk]

Phones for when I’m out
iPad is for when I’m home

[honest hill]

[edgy elk]

I don’t wanna accidentally “FIREWORKS FOR YOU!!!” Out in public

[honest hill]

go record in home

[edgy elk]

“Ur not home? Just use a TP point, smh”

My skill issue I guess

[honest hill]

I want that

how about real life ziplines?

[edgy elk]

They..exist

Fall damage exists too irl tho

[honest hill]

where

not for transporting ppl

[edgy elk]

Idk. Whale territory

I bet some rich ppl have em in their mansion back yard

whel on life

[potent hornet]

well i'm 14 away from 6* pity

i'm probably only gonna get one more pull for TangTang sadly

[edgy crater]

💳

[potent hornet]

can't unfortunately

i'm just gonna have to wait for the rerun i think

i'm hopeing if i don't pull her i get lucky on my 50/50 and get Rossi early

[edgy crater]

then u get her from rossie dossier

[potent hornet]

or that

i wouldn't be mad since its my p3 for TangTang

tho i wouldn't mind having Rossi

just to have her

[drifting berry]

what u mean p3 tt

you already got her

[potent hornet]

yea i have p2

i wanted p3

[drifting berry]

I was feeling bad for you for a moment

[soft tendon]

did prydwen forget to factor in returned sp being scuffed

[drifting berry]

still unlucky, I guess you have been saving for a while

[potent hornet]

lol