theorycrafting

[dawn patrol]

rossi will simply do one rossillion damage

[bronze plume]

whats the conversion of 1 dmg to 1 rossi dmg

[dawn patrol]

1-1 if we're lucky

[glass wind]

Anyone tried Aethertech?

[edgy crater]

chest? set? on who n which team

[glass wind]

Set. Feels like Rossi can get 3 stacks easily.

[edgy crater]

assuming u slap infliction as opener, i guess so

1 bs become 2 vuln stack

[glass wind]

You get extra 16% Physical if she reaches 4 stacks.

or maybe after.

It feels like using Gilberta around 4 stacks enemy will actually increase ur Art DMG on target. Maybe we're not suppose to consume it

[edgy crater]

breach it 1st

[glass wind]

Yeah that debuff duration is long.

"The effect of Arts Susceptibility is further increased based on the number of active Vulnerability stacks on the target. If a target in the field is Lifted, the Lifted status will persist until the field wears off."

Im thinking of Rossi, Pog, Gilberta and Wolfgard.

Red Team

[main nova]

STANZA *6

[icy remnant]

Stanza for guns

😭

[proud vector]

it would be a sick joke to make stanza for guns and make it time limited LOL

[icy remnant]

I mean we know it’s not cus we already saw the effect in the showcase

It should just be a cryo buff

[proud vector]

yeahh... oof

[icy remnant]

Not really an oof, it means a skip for weapon banner which is great

Cus we can only afford 1 weapon every 2-3 limited units

[proud vector]

poor fluorite

one day....

[icy remnant]

I hope the BP weapon for TangTang is close to the banner weapon

Maybe like 90% p5

And since she’s a sub dps the 90% is more like 97%

[icy remnant]

Also it will probably happen eventually

Maybe not stanza directly but a supportive gun

Cus we straight up have none rn

Even if it’s not gonna be TangTangs weapon

[proud vector]

maybe the battlepass?

there is a construction set spear apparently

[icy remnant]

Battlepass should be true-limited

They’re probably not even gonna rerun it lol

They gave the dupe boxes

[proud vector]

yeah maybe they just slowly infllate the 6* pool kek

[icy remnant]

Mild copium is 1st anniversary we will begin to see old units join the standard banner and then their weapons go to the perma sig banner pool

[proud vector]

dat be cope

but man a rerun banner where you select the character you want to rerun would go HARD

[icy remnant]

That’s what they did in Arknights where they sent units to be standard after 1st rerun

I’m not sure of the timeline but I think 1st one was after anniv

[soft tendon]

[gritty olive]

Because in 7 banners time, limited units occupy 75% of the 6* pool

Its kinda not beneficial for the company to do so especially with the slow turnover of units in this type of gacha monetization due to how production works

[proud vector]

honestly the game is very well polished and probably expensive to make characters for ....

they're really milking it as a result FOMO style

[gritty olive]

Unlike arknights you cant just draw new sprites that already has been modeled to the point that you can get away with rigging the models, and rhen add numbers and sprites, then let people voice 30 voicelines

[proud vector]

thats the Hoyo formula after all

[gritty olive]

If it works, it works tm

[proud vector]

genshin did irreprable harm to and also grealty revolutionised gatchas

[gritty olive]

If they wont, theyd probably adapt ak standard that has rotating banners

But thats just not possible…

[proud vector]

best we can hope for is user selected rerun banners

[icy remnant]

This should be the most expensive launch compared to all the top dog gachas given how long they worked on this for

They lost a lot of opportunity cost over the years too given how the normal investor gained so much by just parking their money in the S&P500 and chilling

And now AI is also starting to threaten the gaming industry in the average investors eyes

Overall I have faith in HG for game design but they’re probably under a lot of pressure

For reference the average Joe has doubled their investment in the S&P500 the past 3 years, that’s the baseline they need to break even for opportunity cost

[proud vector]

irl economics

though i guess its good they aren't publicly owned at least

the average investor isn't bashing down the gates to try get paid real quick

[icy remnant]

Private investors are worse though cus they can’t just liquidate

[proud vector]

As in they can't easily jump ship?

So they try to push for money back in other ways should they see weakness?

[icy remnant]

When everything is good everyone is happy
When you have an economic crisis staring, red sirens are blaring and you can’t sell and the only outlet you have is pressuring to get the company to tighten their belts

[proud vector]

mmm

E c o n o m i c s

goes over my head a bit I admit

[icy remnant]

Again I have faith in HG
It’s just that it’s a very expensive game with very high expectations

[proud vector]

my viewpoint is down with the software developers and users tbh

[flat glen]

They aren't giving us numbers to 1.1 characters kits until the actual patch ?

[icy remnant]

Looks like not

Probably also gives them flexibility within themselves to fine tune numbers until last minute

[flat glen]

Been years since I play OG Arknight, they also don't get numbers till actual release right ?

Arknight also is kinda different since global is behind CN anyway

[icy remnant]

Ye

[flat glen]

TangTang numbers probably don't matter much in the grand scheme of things anyway

Unless something wacky happens she probably is a firm replacement for Perlica

[hollow wyvern]

surely they doing last minute rossi buffs

[flat glen]

It's Rossi's numbers that matters

Imagine they just change her kit last minute

[hollow wyvern]

ult now does phys

[gritty olive]

I Remember your name from ako

I got banned there

[flat glen]

I haven't played since...the MH Collab?

[flat glen]

Imagine if they makes her battle skill be crush instead

[gritty olive]

Yeah if you know someone with just monika thats me

Hope it rings a bell

[flat glen]

Actually

How insane would Rossi be if her battle skill is crush

I think I remember something like that LUL

[hollow wyvern]

I just want tt ult pools to linger beyond ult

Makes no dive tt a lot better

[inland quarry]

Are there any up to date last rite rotations available?

[daring dove]

That would make her worse.

[midnight stirrup]

Theres a couple in the works yeah

[daring dove]

Kill her synergy with Gilberta & Ardelia.

[inland quarry]

Where can I find them?

[midnight stirrup]

Not available for the public yet

Whats available rn is rots for gilb, ardelia and akekuri

More than 1 rot for a boss and tt etc not out yet

[inland quarry]

Is there a general guideline for last rite?

[midnight stirrup]

In what way

Rotation?

This is gilb rot

I dont have a video of Ard rot rn

[honest hill]

Interesting

[smoky quarry]

Attention span is so bad that mfers can't spend 2 minutes of their day to finish a delivery without teleporting

[midnight stirrup]

Do it urself then

[smoky quarry]

You know, someone could get another 70k bills and 30 creds

If another someone wasn't lazy bum

I don't lose anything from not posting a job

this is charity at this point

[midnight stirrup]

You complaining about someone being lazy while putting up a delivery job instead of doing it urself is peak irony

Icl

[smoky quarry]

You are missing a point

Someone will be missing wuling delivery today

[frozen tide]

I am not quite getting the point either

Are you encouraging posting jobs or

[smoky quarry]

I am posting a job not because I don't want to do it

I post a job cause someone will earn from it too, instead of just me. That makes sense in non-egoistic environment

[frozen tide]

Good for you

👍

[midnight stirrup]

But youre complaining when they tp

[smoky quarry]

People will stop doing that if someone will abuse it

[frozen tide]

Whilst i personally always complete transferred jobs flawlessly I don't hold the same expectations towards others

Jumping a few times is more than expected

As long as they aren't like hard griefing

Spamming tps or smth

[midnight stirrup]

Tping only drops it to 80 anyway

Which is still a good amount

[smoky quarry]

Overall income is limited

so 20% loss is noticeable

[frozen tide]

I just do my own deliveries

And that's enough for all artificing catalyst weekly+ all the cheap gifts

If you need the tickets i suppose it could hurt

[midnight stirrup]

Then do them yourself kek

[midnight stirrup]

I still dont know how you even make the do my delivery posts

[smoky quarry]

well, it involves on pressing a button that says "... job"

I was afraid of pressing it too at first

[midnight stirrup]

Do you have a screenshot

[frozen tide]

I wouldn't exactly say im afraid

[midnight stirrup]

This doesnt tell me much

[frozen tide]

I just don't feel the need or want for it

If you need it badly enough just sit and refresh a while

[frozen tide]

After taking the commission and filling up mats

[gritty olive]

to be clear, #theorycrafting is fine with every maths no?

[frozen tide]

Go to the page again

[gritty olive]

relating to endfield gameplay

[frozen tide]

And you should be able to click details

Then at the bottom a transfer button thingy

[smoky quarry]

As long as no one complaints ps

[midnight stirrup]

Hmmm guess im blind

[midnight stirrup]

Everything involving number crunching yes

[frozen tide]

Its in a spot where you normally wouldn't rly check

[gritty olive]

can it include psuedodata

[midnight stirrup]

Although I doubt aic since theres a seperate channel for it

[gritty olive]

idk if its the correct term

[midnight stirrup]

Idk what that refers to but probably if its related to the game

[gritty olive]

oh empirical data like shop chances

[midnight stirrup]

I wouldnt worry too much about it tbh

[gritty olive]

like recording 1000 coin flips and determining chance

[smoky quarry]

Factory doesn't matters in this game anyway, nothing to discuss

[midnight stirrup]

I dont see how the new factory is gonna motivate me to do factory again but well see ig

New gear yippie

[icy remnant]

New factory stuff but it'll always be a side thing probably

[gritty olive]

its a one and done deal but if you blueprinted your way and complain about lack of things to do, thats on you

go make your factory from scratch to have a semblance kf content

[peak void]

New factory stuff but only 1 facility is really new, the rest are more of what we already have

[smoky quarry]

Imagine face of the people who said that they will have to skip endfield cause of factories

That are completely skippable and unimportant

[outer ermine]

i feel like u asked me this b4 but i forgor

[gritty olive]

anyways ill stop now

[icy remnant]

The factory is a pretty big draw point that got alot of people in that don't normally play gachas

[peak void]

also a filter

[icy remnant]

And got gacha veterans that skip this game, honestly there's enough people complaining about gacha as is

Just hoping for most of the tourists that never would've stayed to get filtered out soon

[gritty olive]

would it be beneficial if we have one of these like pinned here but for arknights endfield

[midnight stirrup]

What does this have to do with what I said

[honest hill]

Nah factory was a side thing for me when blueprints exist

[icy remnant]

Did I put your name there

[honest hill]

[outer ermine]

i can prob do ard tho

[gritty olive]

i inferred that you saying "motivate to do factory again" is you getting bored of the factory

[honest hill]

I mean the spreadsheet has everything

[icy remnant]

But yea I know alot of people downloaded the game off factory videos like Josh's and then stuck around for the game itself

The hook of a completely different audience than the mihoyo pile is pretty nice

[honest hill]

I like the combat it has potential to be way better

[icy remnant]

Honestly we don't need to have every single gacha just copy pasting each other

[smoky quarry]

Like, info sheet for upcoming characters?

[icy remnant]

I appreciate all the stuff AK does different

[gritty olive]

just for the more recent characgers in general

[honest hill]

They need to add good content

[midnight stirrup]

Nah I just dont think that small addition is enough for me to want to reorganize my factory and figure out again

[honest hill]

And a shit ton of QoLs

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466958391174889722/1480039650683916502/image.png?ex=69ae39d6&is=69ace856&hm=8932c898c1b4af5cdc6cb0035381f7f0b1d29104df7e9484f57819fe2f76a203&
if its a build guide i have this for now prototype

[midnight stirrup]

Not enough payoff from what it seems for effort put in

[gritty olive]

heavily inspired from the HSR one since im from there

[honest hill]

I feel like major QoLs should've been added for 1.1 but they're saving it for 1.2/1.3

[icy remnant]

Didn't we get like

30 QoLs

In 1.1

[honest hill]

a lot of it is super early game

it's too late

things we should've had before

[icy remnant]

That's the most important part since people are still starting the game
Give it time man

[honest hill]

still no auto collect

[icy remnant]

The Devs are great but they're not superhuman

[honest hill]

Yeah they're new to the space small company

[icy remnant]

You know how much they needed to change for all that while doing it during Chinese new year

Any more and it might be considered slave labour

[midnight stirrup]

My factory is so automated it doesnt exist in Wuling anymore

[honest hill]

I hope the feedback from the 5 surveys they got was worth it

[gritty olive]

i wont expect autocollect in an "exploration" based game

[icy remnant]

Auto collect what in particular though

We're getting the quick dijiang collect and reset soon

[honest hill]

Auto collect recycling stations, clues

[honest hill]

not soon more like 1.2

[icy remnant]

Recycling stations don't matter to you anymore anyways right

[honest hill]

[icy remnant]

That's a month away

[honest hill]

yeah ig

[midnight stirrup]

They already said they adding that

Recycling stations a waste of map space ngl

[honest hill]

They are

[midnight stirrup]

Had literally 0 use after 1.0

[icy remnant]

Recycling stations should stop after the first part wuling probably

[honest hill]

If auto collect was a thing before we would've saved so much time

[icy remnant]

Right now the most important part is probably addition of new game modes

[honest hill]

sure this is good for new players but for the players who stuck around it's just whatever

since we're past that point

[icy remnant]

-allow sale of excess parts for T credits-

[smoky quarry]

If I didn't miscalculated, there's 44 spots with rare resources

that you have to collect every 4 days

most boring chore ever

[icy remnant]

Every?

How many characters are you raising

An army?

[smoky quarry]

Why not all of them

[icy remnant]

I'm pretty sure the rare ores are the least of your concern

[smoky quarry]

I won't get any new characers until lizhana anyway

[honest hill]

Which they should have auto collect for

because eventually there will be too many spots

well there's already too many

[icy remnant]

Man you just auto everything and there's no game left
You can grow stuff in Dijiang if you want

In fact you can probably grow faster than getting units

I have like 200 rocks and plants

[outer ermine]

it sucks literally no sp

[honest hill]

I know but like they tied it to dijang when it should've been stuff as a bonus

yeah sure it's faster in dijang

but like why make it slower normally

[icy remnant]

Dijiang will pretty much be fully automated soon with a simple click and reset
And you go collect if Ur impatient

[honest hill]

Why doesn't ores and other mats refresh every reset

It was made in mind to make u use dijang

[smoky quarry]

I feel dijiang impact only from weapon xp mfg

Cause I actually see that it's being crafted

Unlike operator xp or plants

[icy remnant]

I have enough weapon xp now I'll never need to farm it ye

[honest hill]

Yeah mainly for weapon xp

[icy remnant]

Character xp is pretty nice too honestly

I've never farmed exp dungeon

[daring dove]

Still the issue of having to give ok 97000 gifts a day until all the waifu's are 200%.

[icy remnant]

I have 3 lvl90s and my entire squad lvl80 in 2 teams

[smoky quarry]

are we playing different games?

[icy remnant]

The achievements stop after 100%

Holy

[honest hill]

It's to make you play the game longer each session

[smoky quarry]

It's sufferable

[outer ermine]

do my gifts

lifeng was my fuckin first 200 cuz of cc

actually bricked

[icy remnant]

Lmao

[honest hill]

I wish the ziplines were way faster

[icy remnant]

My first 200 were both Laev and Chen

[smoky quarry]

"Xaihi was talking to a toster. Again"

[outer ermine]

lucky

[icy remnant]

But yea if we're going down the deep end of doing completionist stuffs

[midnight stirrup]

Naur perlica ardelia

[icy remnant]

Like going to 200% trust on everyone and claiming all recycling nodes and claiming all plants and mushrooms till like 300 of each

I really don't think we need to waste time on doing QoL for that till like way later

[honest hill]

It's pain

[outer ermine]

sgould be ez lemme ig

[midnight stirrup]

Lmfao hifumi

[outer ermine]

after my dailies 300stam

[midnight stirrup]

U funny ash

[smoky quarry]

Man, how you could you undergift fluorite and avywenna

[daring dove]

Akekuri is best girl anyway

[smoky quarry]

She's nice indeed, but character is underpresented in the story

Thus, feels shallow

[honest hill]

ngl I feel like this will give 1 1 1 for the essence

[icy remnant]

Ur just ragebaiting at this point

[midnight stirrup]

This items sucks balls icl

For a big stream reveal

[honest hill]

it does

[midnight stirrup]

Its not even hard to get perf essence

[honest hill]

no lol

[midnight stirrup]

Well

[smoky quarry]

They should've limited this item to paid battlepass, like they usually do with all unique items lol

[icy remnant]

For WuLing ticket items it saves a lot of currency

[midnight stirrup]

My last rite took like 2k sanity to get her essence

But ive gotten all the others in 1-2 tries

[honest hill]

yes which is why it's so ahh

[icy remnant]

You can get the perfect stanza essence here without buying the WuLing tickets

[honest hill]

this is only one time limited amount

[outer ermine]

pepper 4 ults in a row suck on mobile

[midnight stirrup]

Saving it for Rossi

[midnight stirrup]

Mobile sucks* fixed it for you

[icy remnant]

And yea if you want to perfarm for any future characters we won't know the weapon stats beforehand

[smoky quarry]

It doesn't matters, the real issue is getting fodder essenses

[icy remnant]

So in theory if you perfarm all the fodder

[midnight stirrup]

Akef legit the only gacha I can somewhat enjoy on mobile cause zzz wuwa genshin suck ass on mobile

[icy remnant]

You can slap this on and have them playable day 1

[outer ermine]

hasnt sucked me wym smh

[smoky quarry]

the chance is so low that I can't be bothered calculating it

[icy remnant]

What?

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/noo-noo-housekeeper-guardian-teletubbies-noo-noo-teletubbies-gif-7013784200538168655

[odd wren]

Sucked what

[smoky quarry]

Chance of random essense hitting 3/3

[icy remnant]

Just save the coolants for the highest levels

[smoky quarry]

Is 0.3%

[icy remnant]

And?

[honest hill]

only use case I see is if u save it for a new region where u don't have the stock bills for the tickets for that character in that region

[icy remnant]

Yea when we get a weapon that's only farmable from a new region
You need to burn stock bills to farm there which you might need for artificing

Laev weapon farmers know

[smoky quarry]

At least laev essense is reusable for stanza

[daring dove]

I'm in my prefarm process for acension materials for Tangtang rn. But to be honest I'm mostly just stockpiling T-creds & talent ascension nodes.

[icy remnant]

But yea honestly ill try to actually take opinions more seriously once all the gacha tourists get filtered out

[honest hill]

for essence I try to farm for a good 3/4 1 1 because the rest will be fodder anyways

[midnight stirrup]

I mean they added an option for an essence in both wuling and valley 4

[honest hill]

I mean like if they add a new 3rd stat that's only in third region

[midnight stirrup]

Maybe

But why introduce it now

Its so pointless

Like sure its useful, once

But like for a big reveal in stream

Meh

[honest hill]

it is but meh

[midnight stirrup]

But I thought the stream was mid anyway

The new region is nice but its the same colors as current Wuling

[honest hill]

nothing burger dev log lot of the things are vague

[midnight stirrup]

It feels a little lazy even tho the game is visually impressive

I thought they couldve done more

[signal sundial]

Me when the wuling region is wuling coloured

[midnight stirrup]

But ill wait with judging till its out

[smoky quarry]

Gacha player doesn't concerns himself with watching streams without redeem codes

[honest hill]

like how we don't know what the new gear sets do + tangtang's weapon at least

[midnight stirrup]

You act as if there cant be variation in visuals in a region

Look at any other open world game

[icy remnant]

We knew this is the stockade though

And we already saw parts of the stockade

And it's very different from WuLing city

[midnight stirrup]

Im aware

Still couldve done more with it based on what we saw

Its just trees and a water wheel

Big

[honest hill]

it's the same of what we had before

[midnight stirrup]

I hope they havent revealed the good stuff

[icy remnant]

It IS the same

[midnight stirrup]

From that region

[icy remnant]

It's name is literally stockade

[smoky quarry]

Like tes4 oblivion?

[honest hill]

I just hope what we have next isn't the same

[smoky quarry]

[midnight stirrup]

People just defending to defend lmao

Not seeing the point

[honest hill]

[signal sundial]

Personally the opposite can be said the same too tbh

Attacking to attack

[smoky quarry]

I don't like chinese swamp aestethic to begin with, so I can't vote on that matter

[midnight stirrup]

?

Having an opinion is an attack now

Am I sending the devs death wishes bc the region didnt impress me

[icy remnant]

My opinion is that I'll take opinions more seriously if Ur around after 3 months

Just waiting for all the gacha tourists to get filtered out

[midnight stirrup]

Holy airhead comment

[honest hill]

they already have

[midnight stirrup]

So any critisism the playerbase has made that they fixed

Were all not to be taken serious

[smoky quarry]

he'll take it seriously after 2.0 ig

[midnight stirrup]

This channel is something

[smoky quarry]

I mean it's better than #help or god forbid #endfield

[icy remnant]

I mean I'm not the dev and if Ur just gonna be ranting here and I won't even know if you'll be here in a week would it matter

[honest hill]

the endfield chat is something else...

[icy remnant]

Might as well disregard

[honest hill]

I go there and idk what is happening it's just pure chaos

[midnight stirrup]

?

You have to be ragebaiting

[midnight stirrup]

Tc was a lot better when the game released

[smoky quarry]

Well, we've been content starved for a month

[honest hill]

yeah was

[midnight stirrup]

Has nothing to do with content

People showed up here knowing nothing about tc just to talk about nsfw stuff and shit

[honest hill]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461535111223967764/1468145696912838717/GIF_20260203_134514_475.gif

truee

[daring dove]

I mean that'll go without saying to be honest, more excitement & a lot more things to discover about the game. RN we haven't solved everything but we have a good idea of how things are going to play out.

[midnight stirrup]

Why do you think most tcs went inactive here

[midnight stirrup]

Still has nothing to do with it

Theorycrafting was meant for theorycrafting

Not other nonsense while theres channels for that purpose

[smoky quarry]

There are other places if you want to talk about nsfw stuff

[daring dove]

Well yeah, but what can you theory craft in a mostly solved calculation.

[midnight stirrup]

There is still plenty theorycrafting to be done

[outer ermine]

ight dailies done

[honest hill]

r u sure

[midnight stirrup]

Tell that to the people who missed the memo

[outer ermine]

whatd u wear on gil pepper

[midnight stirrup]

Erm

Xiranite I think

Chotto

Ill record

[outer ermine]

i fucked up i thought perlica was slot4

[midnight stirrup]

@pearl glacier

[coral folio]

Is every operator's base attack time the same?

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym base attack time

[coral folio]

Basic attack sequence duration

[pearl glacier]

pinged the wrong fella

[icy remnant]

Time it takes before final strike is very different

Chen is 2.7s and Endmin is 3s for example

[midnight stirrup]

No

Some are faster than others

LR is very slow, Xaihi pretty fast

@outer ermine

^

[outer ermine]

ight

[midnight stirrup]

What u testing king

[smoky quarry]

Probably wanna figure out best sp generator to field

[smoky quarry]

- Very different
- 10% difference

[midnight stirrup]

He didnt say it was very different tho

[smoky quarry]

Are u sure?

[icy remnant]

10% is a lot though

Well to me it is

And Endmin is only the average

If you compare to someone like Last Rite

It’ll be way different

It’s like fast medium slow

[outer ermine]

eh

[midnight stirrup]

Oh im blind

How I check and not see it

[smoky quarry]

It's fine, job of the endfield fan isn't to read after all

[outer ermine]

i dont think it kills w/o crit actually maybe like 2%hp left

perlica washed

[honest hill]

sadge ur electrification ran out plus no corrosion

[smoky quarry]

my lavatein can't do that

Ig i'll build LR eventually

[outer ermine]

i forgor skill im not farming 4 ults again

just arr

d

[honest hill]

pretty sure if u delayed electrification a little bit longer ult 3 would still be within it

plus perlica bs before gilb ult for corro

[outer ermine]

i have speedkill syndrome its hard playing slow

[honest hill]

i guess for ur acc it's over kill

[icy remnant]

I have good news for you next update

[honest hill]

but u can perlica bs before gilb ult

[outer ermine]

yea, its supposed to be for pepper so gotta do it right atleast ig

[honest hill]

[dawn shard]

i gotta look up the data again, but iirc the longest attack string is roughly twice the duration of the shortest

[outer ermine]

[odd wren]

[edgy crater]

0.5hp lol

[glass wind]

Does Stanza of Memorials passive also buffs Physical members?

[outer ermine]

i can maybe 3 stack kill this mf

but i shouldnt

[smoky quarry]

It does

But arts unit on physical team is a weird pick

[glass wind]

its Antal. Im planning something for Rossi

Actually maybe Rossi is Heat char anyway

[edgy crater]

its not maybe, rossie is pysical heat

[midnight stirrup]

Really wonder how much higher ur invest level is than mine

[edgy crater]

yinglung set?

[outer ermine]

3 stack i just need 1 crit from ult or cs lol

[edgy crater]

dat lr number looks small

[outer ermine]

ight lemme actually do the rot pepper mb got sidetracked

[midnight stirrup]

Nah Hifumi got a lot more artifice and refinements than me

[midnight stirrup]

Do it with LR control smh

[midnight stirrup]

Think its just a Gilb thing tbh

[outer ermine]

fuck that im already being nice by not doing lr fs to xaihi to gil cancels

[midnight stirrup]

Nobody has the investment Hifumi has

[midnight stirrup]

Its a 10s rotation dont be dramatic

[outer ermine]

normalize xai lead

[edgy crater]

nah, hifu miss electrification on 3rd slash

too fast on electrification?

[inland quarry]

How do you get off a xaihi combo before a perlica combo without just stalling for time?

[outer ermine]

if they jsut speedup gil cs animation the rot would be nice

2 tier w perlica xai
lr gil misses the lift first time lr outruns someone and shes on slow

[midnight stirrup]

Probably

[midnight stirrup]

Team placement order matters

You want Perlica in the last slot so her combo appears after Xaihi

That way u can use Perlica when it matters

Rather than being forced to use her before xaihi

But u usually apply both while working on the 4th stack with LR then do combo ult

[inland quarry]

That doesn't help though

Perlica will trigger on the first last strike. By the second, her prompt is still up and therefore gets refreshed. This leaves xaihi behind perlica regardless of team placement

[midnight stirrup]

It doesnt

Not if u have the proper team setup

The video I showed you earlier is proof of that

Place ur team as LR Xaihi Gilb/Ard Perlica

[inland quarry]

That is my exact order

[midnight stirrup]

Then idk what the issue is

Like do u think Perlica only appears once

She triggers every fs if u didnt use her combo

[edgy crater]

or rather, dats shouldnt be an issue since if ur xaihi cs ready mean ur lr ready to cs

[inland quarry]

The order changes on sequential fs

Due to the prompt refreshing rather than being created anew

[midnight stirrup]

@outer ermine Can u help them out im at work

Cant show off rn with ardelia

[midnight stirrup]

U start the rot with xaihi bs yeah

Honestly I dont think it even matters if u xaihi or perlica first

Combo

[outer ermine]

ight there

wuts happening again

[inland quarry]

In your video, perlica's combo is activated first due to this stacking

[eternal blaze]

not sure the info can help, but ENG description for perlica P4 is wrong, 33% isn't increasing her electrification duration but the electrification dmg taken effect, so the real duration is 8.75 and not 11.6.

[outer ermine]

for what

[edgy crater]

nah i know for dat miss tl, i mean the electrification activation too fast so lr 3rd slash not buffed by electrification

[inland quarry]

The second vid also does perlica before xaihi

[midnight stirrup]

Ah then mb

But whats the issue with that

I dont rly understand what issue ur running into

[pure spoke]

Tangtang when

[inland quarry]

It looks like this is an issue with using ardelia instead of gilberta

[honest hill]

yes he did

I mentioned this before

he proc electrification too early

he also did not bs before gilb ult

no corrosion

[inland quarry]

I believe this comes down to the need for ardelia bs

Gilberta is sp free since its ult

[edgy crater]

eyja corros also sp free

[inland quarry]

I think with two precasts you can still get ardelia off, but there's no chance in that rotation on future cycles

[honest hill]

eyja ult is also sp free

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461535111223967764/1468145696912838717/GIF_20260203_134514_475.gif

[inland quarry]

Ardelia's main thing is her bs no? Consumes corrosion for arts suspectibility

[honest hill]

You can get rid of nature stack if u perli bs before gilb ult

[inland quarry]

I didn't count that and it's too late to matter anyway

Corrosion is quite short

[midnight stirrup]

Oh ur talking about ardelia perlica issue

Yeah

I ran into that before too

Try ardelia xaihi perlica

Instead of xaihi ardelia

But that shit kinda rng and finnicky with when combo appears in front or after perlica

[honest hill]

I have mine set as xaihi LR arde/gilb perli

since I'm on controller

[inland quarry]

I did notice hifumi's vid used on field xaihi, I guess for faster fs?

[honest hill]

yeah

faster than LR

[inland quarry]

How worthwhile is that? I have noticed that lr really demands you dodge everything or your rot is screwed

Do you abandon dmg outside of farming ult?

[honest hill]

it's just slower

but idk how much worth

I usually only stay on LR

[drifting quest]

Speedrun tech

Less value for regular clears

[outer ermine]

^its not something u do normally

i was gonna do gil cancels but if pepper was gonna use it to show rots then i held off it

xai lead pretty nice tho, pretty braindead until u start running out of sp

[edgy crater]

but u still need to fs with lr once

[honest hill]

yes

[coral folio]

Does Tangtang's ult inflict cryo infliction?

[outer ermine]

i love this ngl

gib me one for nonphy

[drifting quest]

ult itself no
talent 2 yes

i believe

[edgy crater]

dunk tied to talent 2?

[drifting quest]

yes

During OLDEN STARE, performing a dive attack with the controlled operator ends its evolution early and creates a Waterspout. All nearby Whirlpools are also consumed and converted into additional Waterspouts. Waterspouts created this way have the same effect as those created by the Battle Skill and deal additional DMG.

[edgy crater]

always forgot lol

[drifting quest]

from one of the most nothingburger t1's to a pretty insane t2

[edgy crater]

also does ange really want stagger build? or dats just speedrun tech

[drifting quest]

speedrun tech

used to align stagger for the juicy 30%

[edgy crater]

dats make sense

[outer ermine]

e erything is so fast theres just not enuf stagger

[icy remnant]

Second rotation never matters because the bosses always die after the first

[drifting quest]

there's some 'normal' timelines that use it

but they're like

[edgy crater]

oh yeah, one of ur trial just get fatso cutscene without hitting stagger node

[drifting quest]

the quotes explain themselves

[coral folio]

Does dunk performed by other operators also create Waterspout? Or is this tied to Tangtang?

[edgy crater]

either die or ur buff get phaseout from changing phase/cutscene

[drifting quest]

should do based on wording but she isnt out so it isnt confirmed

idr the showcase

[edgy crater]

cant tell on showcase either

[drifting quest]

they might have shown it off with someone else doing a dive but im pretty sure showcases did not show talent 2

they were shilling for the timestop qol

[dawn patrol]

do we have any rossi info i'm HUNGRY

[edgy crater]

yeah, the showcase mostly from stopping marble fly off lol

even with yvonne team, tang2 ulti only act as cc

[drifting quest]

no

wait till thursday

lmao

[dawn patrol]

i'm going to starve 💔

[outer ermine]

no preload moment

[icy remnant]

Go farm WuLing chests

Fr though why are there like 200 chests in WuLing city

[outer ermine]

1 day to datamine

[icy remnant]

If only

[dawn patrol]

i am NOT watching a video for this man

i might actually but i'd rather wait until i can afford the scanners

[icy remnant]

Just buy all of the WuLing treasure chest seeker things every week

[edgy crater]

u don't really need it

[icy remnant]

I bought them for the V4 ones

Too much currency

Too lazy to watch vid

[outer ermine]

my map tracker is so fucked that i have to buy for the rest of the chests good things its only wuling city left w 40chest and 4 aur

[drifting quest]

where was this said?

last official post I saw said dl doesnt go up until maint

6hr before

[edgy crater]

w8 really?

[dawn patrol]

i'm saving for 1.1 and buying cats

[drifting quest]

Once the update is complete, you will need to re-download the game client. Due to the large download size, we recommend that you download the update using a stable Wi-Fi connection.

How to Update
After maintenance for the version update begins, you can follow the in-game instructions to proceed with the update.

[edgy crater]

nvm, dats my miss info

recheck it again

[drifting quest]

the result is we prob wont actually get datamines for 1.1 stuff

esp if data servers are overloaded

[edgy crater]

most likely overloaded

but if its same behavior like launching day, possible the server online earlier to login for few min

[drifting quest]

its more about everyone downloading at once

launch had no issues because of preload

[next helm]

Is everyone downloading at once tho?

What time is the patch

[drifting quest]

there's 6 hours of maint

most people trying to play on release will download during the 6hr period

[next helm]

I mean if it is at midnight

[edgy crater]

37gb update

[drifting quest]

it's only a bad time for euw

[edgy crater]

nope, its morning for asia

[next helm]

For hoyo games I usually download in the morning and that is 5 hours after update

[drifting quest]

and anywhere aligned with euw timezones like africa

maybe the infrastructure is good enough to not cause issues

we'll have t osee

[next helm]

We must have preloading right

[dawn patrol]

wait so what's the tech

download during maint?

[drifting quest]

thats your only choice

by the sounds of it

[dawn patrol]

so i gotta uninstall and redownload huh

might as well wait until maint is over actually, my internet is good

[odd wren]

They should allow pre loading for mobile

[honest hill]

Pre load for everything

[honest hill]

What time

[drifting quest]

it's really baffling they did not offer preload

unless it's en issues again

[drifting quest]

Mar. 12, 2026, 06:00 (UTC+8)

<t:1773266400>

should be

ends 6 hours later

[honest hill]

Not bad for en

[drifting quest]

thats 10pm for me

[honest hill]

Same

[drifting quest]

[honest hill]

[drifting quest]

i should have thursday off so i can probably not sleep

[odd wren]

Oh wow its 6am in the morning

[honest hill]

I will download at that time

[honest hill]

For you yeah

[odd wren]

Good thing i can do paternity leave

[honest hill]

What's that

You have kids that's why

[odd wren]

My wife just gave birth 2 days ago, i have 7 days of leave

[honest hill]

[dawn patrol]

9 am thursday

it's so doomed

i have class

[twilit quail]

I will just sleep and wait for someone else to do the work for me

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/903511759237820426/960367649437651034/ezgif-2-379d5e1884.gif

[odd wren]

I think i will also do this

Gonna wait for the aic ones as well

[honest hill]

Is there new story or what

[odd wren]

Yep

Soup2 storyline

[honest hill]

Then I'll probably do that and ore stuffs

[odd wren]

I mean redemption arc

[honest hill]

Redemption?

[odd wren]

She's on her way to prove she's the best supreme chief

[honest hill]

Ohh

She alr is to me

[odd wren]

[midnight stirrup]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RXjTTKjMUj4?is=AWxj-c0w7oDtwbk4 Theyre crunching numbers a little too hard

[dawn patrol]

i'll go through the story and grab whatever i can but aic stuff i'll wait for leander lmao

[honest hill]

Ye

Aic later someone else will do the work

[midnight stirrup]

Btw

What happened to Rell

[dry kindle]

i threw a brick through their door

[odd wren]

I'll wait for net xd

[odd wren]

A lot of players quit already not sure if he's one of em

[midnight stirrup]

Whats ur paypal

Lemme compensate u for a good deed

[midnight stirrup]

He was too stubborn to quit this server by himself

[odd wren]

[midnight stirrup]

Mightve gotten channel banned

[drifting quest]

unless they got channel banned in the past like 12h

[odd wren]

[midnight stirrup]

@summer flower Oh there he is

He didnt show up for me

[odd wren]

Oh prolly busy irl

[midnight stirrup]

Tc feels weird without my daily endmin vs dapan beef

[river scroll]

WTF

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1458315946786816052/1480029365268906156/HCs93-5WAAAExYG.png?ex=69ae3042&is=69acdec2&hm=1bbbe2059c678c06ffa99f86db852fac0f547e439d41f400cd674d55c83859cf&

cute vtuber doing TC

[midnight stirrup]

The fact people unironically watch vtubers

[proud vector]

Now this is content

3: what’s wrong with Vtubers

[midnight stirrup]

I cant take it serious

But the beauty of things is we dont all like the same things. So I can respect it

[outer ermine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/891230348950765598/1382350867419762819/GtGvS6GXwAAAIO2.gif

[odd wren]

Hmm li zhiyan i wonder

[river scroll]

I like anime girl G...

[midnight stirrup]

Theorycrafting

[midnight stirrup]

Theyre a real person though

[odd wren]

I wonder if she will be physical

[honest hill]

Aren't you one yourself

[midnight stirrup]

I honestly have no clue with her

After Tangtang being cryo

[river scroll]

they are real anime girl.
thinking of positive is always good

[river scroll]

True... I like myself too

[odd wren]

The only clue i know is, she was hired by fangyi herself

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-barnacles-funny-gif-gif-14509494416451968887

[midnight stirrup]

None of the elements make sense for her rn for me

[honest hill]

[odd wren]

Well true, so might be physical

[midnight stirrup]

Cryo nature ig

Hmm

[honest hill]

nature dps hmmge

[midnight stirrup]

I dont think shell be a dps

I think Zhuang will be that

Or Zhuang has to be electric

[honest hill]

Zhuang is electric

I mean she summoned lightning

[proud vector]

On one hand Laev type special mode ult

[honest hill]

Like zeus

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah but like

[odd wren]

I think she'll be like a banner before fangyi

[midnight stirrup]

Rossi is heat and physical

[proud vector]

On the other hand, phys electro to work with endmin

[midnight stirrup]

I wouldnt be surprised if zhuang is nature and does electric

[honest hill]

don't tell me u think zeus is nature not lightning

[proud vector]

Or that yeah

[honest hill]

[proud vector]

Maybe the lightning is “all natural”

[midnight stirrup]

Thunderclouds are part of nature

[honest hill]

True..

[midnight stirrup]

Wait

Let him cook

[outer ermine]

fangyi is caster but w sword like dusk in og

[midnight stirrup]

The other chick might be phys electric

[proud vector]

Do not let me cook what do you mean

[midnight stirrup]

Nah

I see the vision

[honest hill]

Just because she uses a greatsword

[midnight stirrup]

This might very well be phys electric

[proud vector]

Tbf Rossi but Electro would make Arclight so happy

[midnight stirrup]

Bro if Rossi isnt good on release

Im burning headquarters

[proud vector]

And I kinda wish for that to be a thing since arclight is great

[midnight stirrup]

[odd wren]

Hmmm

[river scroll]

if she not being another Gilberta slave is already a blessing

[midnight stirrup]

I thought we all knew this

The guy on the top right

I still think is Ashdagir

[odd wren]

Yeah no weapon silhouette

Sadge

[proud vector]

No it’s lancer

[midnight stirrup]

If Ashdagir doesnt get Dainsleifd

[proud vector]

Lancer ga shinda

[midnight stirrup]

And actually be playable

Im p5p5ing

[proud vector]

Spacial abilities in a game like this huh

Take a book out of Perlica’s manual

Ultimate: orbital debris

Also cool thing

[midnight stirrup]

Hes so dope

[proud vector]

Protocol-originum uses Aether

So technically Perlica is teleporting things with aether powered Tele-Protocol

We ain’t clean chief

Never forget that if a ship can launch drop pods, it is also capable of orbital bombardment

[icy remnant]

Vtubing is basically just streaming or creating content behind the guise of an anime character instead of doxxing yourself

I can see the appeal of it for the creator side of things

Doxxing yourself on the internet can come with some very big downsides

Especially if you’re popular

[proud vector]

E n t i t y

Also depth readings are cool

[summer flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1479851358424399995/image0.gif

[midnight stirrup]

Im aware what it is

I just dont see the appeal for the viewer

Very much living in a fantasy world but thats me

[summer flicker]

i mean vtuber do various topics, there vtuber cover topic that interest me like tcing like maygi

[edgy crater]

ah yes, odin wand for talos

[dawn shard]

1, 0 , -1 holy shit its minecraft dimensions

[lean pawn]

Is this legito

[dry kindle]

#twitterfeed message you tell me

[lean pawn]

Oh thats a nice forumuh

[edgy crater]

u can just go to official page on fb/x

[lean pawn]

I only have whats app and discord

[drifting quest]

It is a bit dry of a patch when you see it like that

1 umbral only

Only 1 new actual event

[edgy crater]

well, theres cleaning service event

[drifting quest]

Said 1 new actual event

[edgy crater]

i mean, 1 better than nothing

[terse valley]

.roadmap

[crystal coral]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HCxwOsmbwAA8BvD.jpg?name=orig

[summer flicker]

[terse valley]

oh it's updated cool

[dawn patrol]

i need the 29th to be here yesterday

[proud vector]

watch as chubby lung cleaning speedruns take this discord by storm

Z vs M style washing theorycrafting

[drifting quest]

i mean there was delver speedruns

[smoky quarry]

16th april is 1.2 release apparently

Looks rather small

[dreamy cave]

uhhh when it says "Arts Intensity can also increase the effect of Electrification" does it mean it increases the arts damage taken?

[smoky quarry]

Yes

That's the whole point of wearing pulser set on perlica

[drifting quest]

yeah 5 week patch

wondering if its an exception because 1.0 was longer

or the norm

12 weeks for 1.0 and 1.1 and then 6 weeks per patch in future maybe

[smoky quarry]

17 days for banner seemes like a weird timer

21 or 24 makes more sense

[unreal light]

Pulser set adds 50% electric damage for 10 sec per her combo skill

Pulse also allows to run electric damage gloves

[warped sorrel]

where did you get this from

i wanna see the rest!

[coral folio]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/956086674729865226

But it's somehow burried so deep in the past chats

[warped sorrel]

sadge

[coral folio]

[smoky quarry]

I wish they did awakening sign-in for each patch

[timber harness]

I dont understand this game's lore cause i dont play ak

So what is the world in endfield not real or something

And all the operators are just false versions of the real ones?

[icy remnant]

No it’s real just in the future of normal AK

[icy remnant]

And no they are copies that were formed because of Originium

They don’t play too much role in the story so far either though

Just going through endfield gives you as much information as you’ll need, there’s alot of stuff that still needs to be explained

[drifting quest]

TLDR
When someone infected with Oripathy dies their 'data' is stored within Originium mostly within a subspace called the Assimilated Universe/Originium Forest/ETC

Warfarin 'recently' found a way to extract this data from the Assimilated Universe to pluck said people who died back out. However in the process they become entirely new people. They retain the memories and mostly the personality of the original, so most tend to follow similar career plans or ambitions, but they are new identities and hence take new names (e.g. Angelina > Gilberta)

[timber harness]

Mustve been fake news confusing me before. I remember people saying surtr and levaetin was the exact same person then i played her story

[smoky quarry]

Being reborn as reconvener is almost like appearing out of nowhere. You don't know who you are or what's going on around you. But you do have the memories and personality of your predecessor.

Also I like to call them revenants. It is well-known and quite accurately describes the essence of the phenomenon, in my opinion.

[dawn patrol]

so it's nier gestalts

[smoky quarry]

Lavatein had it worst

No memories, no purpose and no past

Completely lost

Apparently originium failed to record surtr's memories due to them being corrupted by her amnesia-like condition

[icy remnant]

DiJiang gave me so much exp I can 90 another 2 operators if not for T credits

[smoky quarry]

If only you could manufacture t-credits

[icy remnant]

I already have 3 characters at lvl90 and I never farm exp

Only bottle neck is credits

Nothing else seems to matter

[potent hornet]

yea the credit gate is real

[icy remnant]

You really don’t need to understand it too much

End of the day they’re different people

[pure spoke]

Thats actually a nice graph

Whats a protorig tho?

[coral folio]

The main machine thingy in every AIC

[pure spoke]

Oh xd

[coral folio]

The big one

[smoky quarry]

That is the simplest explanation I can imagine

[next helm]

I still don't get it 100%

[smoky quarry]

And it's on point too

[coral folio]

[pure spoke]

Did you play og ak?

[next helm]

From left to right is it time?

Yeah I did play og ak

[potent hornet]

3 more dayyyyyyyyyss

[pure spoke]

Its not a timeline

[coral folio]

Pulser Lab armor lore.

"Most could not understand why Endfield Industries developed a defensive suit for fighting digital warfare."

[pure spoke]

It just shows the different " universe/ dimensions/ world" where the other monsters and entities come from

[dawn patrol]

so-called construction company

[pure spoke]

We are just in the white area

But more importantly

Tang tang when

[potent hornet]

soon

[pure spoke]

[potent hornet]

my wallet isn't ready

[icy remnant]

I fear the day Physical gets their own TangTang and we need to drop Chen to be optimal

[dawn patrol]

rossi when

[potent hornet]

i really was expecting TangTang to work well with Chen before we knew she was cryo

[potent hornet]

not soon

[icy remnant]

TangTangs kit is genuinely so overloaded she will never be power crept in Cryo

Literally a do everything kit

[pure spoke]

I gonna play chen + tangtang

[icy remnant]

That team needs Rossi I guess

Convert TangTang stacks to Vuln and Chen combo into 4 stack crush

[pure spoke]

Bruh

[dawn patrol]

my wallet is ready

[pure spoke]

Well i have 180 pulls saved i probably can get both

[smoky quarry]

and then you end up losing two 50/50

[icy remnant]

Eh they’ll have enough to pity both

[drifting quest]

180 saved is easily enough to 120 both

with 1.1 income

[potent hornet]

i'm more worried about pulling TangTangs weapon than i am of pulling her

[icy remnant]

She’s a sub dps so even if BP weapon is like 85% or smth it’ll be like 95% team damage lol

No the weapon will not be Gun Stanza

[potent hornet]

meh, either way i want it

[icy remnant]

But yea if you need to skip any banner weapons it’s definitely the sub dpses

Unless of course you just like it

[potent hornet]

i don't have wedge and whatever the new battlepass one is will be a bit of a wait until i actually get it

i have an ok obj for her if that ends up being the side choice

[icy remnant]

You’ll need to farm a lot of credits and mats anyways you can probably also just chill and roll in a week

Since that’s when we get all 5 tickets

[potent hornet]

i'm gonna dump the 5 pulls i have stored up on her and if i don't get her right away i will finish up the new content and use whatever we get from that on her

if i don't have her by that time the wallet will probably have to come out

if i do get spooked i hope its by yvonne

[icy remnant]

I’m hoping to be spooked by Gilberta

In fact I want Gilberta more than TangTang rn

But I do want TangTang as well

Maybe I’ll miss both 50/50s and one of them will be Gilberta

[pure spoke]

I have a lucky seeded 69 account. Cant lose

[warm galleon]

Just pull both gilb and tang in one x10 pull

[potent hornet]

this is the way

[outer ermine]

ez

[potent hornet]

gonna pull 4xyvonne and 5xTT in 5 10 pulls

[icy remnant]

What if I said I’m one of the degens that do single pulls

For efficiency

[smoky quarry]

Imagine if tt gun is self-buff weapon

and her damage share is like 5%

[outer ermine]

pull both in 2 even better

[icy remnant]

Bruh that’s less than Pog

[smoky quarry]

still more than arclight

[warm galleon]

TC peeps are like how about the plunge? The plunge is 50,000

[icy remnant]

How many peeps here have actually found all the chests in WuLing

I’ve been procrastinating so much and new region soon

[warm galleon]

Pretty sure we're not getting new region til 2.0

[dawn patrol]

i cba pulling up a vid for wuling chests

[icy remnant]

Okay I say region but I meant area

[smoky quarry]

I did

just scan the thing

[icy remnant]

The stockade being so big that it’s such a large portion of the map is wild

[smoky quarry]

stockade isn't small settlement in the middle of jingyu valley?

[soft tendon]

No the outpost is collab project between stockade and city

[smoky quarry]

so stockade can rob wuling city more easily

smart