theorycrafting

[chilly bolt]

Still count as susceptibility so ye

[frozen tide]

A way to word it

Is

Lr ult counts additional susc multiplier as x1.5

[chilly bolt]

Dmg taken are from xaihi talent, deto and starry? Anything else im missing?

[frozen tide]

Think those are it?

[smoky quarry]

Pip, do you think that lizhiyan is 1.4 operator?

[frozen tide]

Without perli ofc

[chilly bolt]

Oh electrification too

[frozen tide]

Lr just puts susc on steroids for ult

Perli forced electrification is a massive source of dmg taken increase yes

[chilly bolt]

Does that mean running ardelia+gil is good

You get shit ton of susceptibility

[frozen tide]

Yesnt

That has been used for speedkills before i think

But its not rly sustainable

[chilly bolt]

I saw yz or someone did that

[outer ermine]

on umbral yea

less grindy

[frozen tide]

Ard uses extra sp gilb applies nature ard trigger can only happen without infliction

Its weird

[smoky quarry]

How do you actually read iana's rotation graphic? Thing is confusing

[frozen tide]

Its just a timline

Read left from right top to bottom doesn't rly matter

[unreal light]

It’s a timeline for all four characters

Just read it from left to right

[smoky quarry]

Just telling main algorithm seems easier

[chilly bolt]

You could write it on excel like hornymosnter

[drifting quest]

endaxis is more beneficial for tc'ers

[smoky quarry]

I've ran out of games to play, and I'm bored when there's nothing to do in endfield.

Does it means I should consider getting a job?

[drifting quest]

can be daunting for non tc invested people

yes

[twilit quail]

mewgenics and sts2 are right there bro'

[outer ermine]

censor j*b

[smoky quarry]

I am very bad at mewgenics actually

Turn based roguelites like that are the worst for me

[daring dove]

Can someone explain mathematics to me... How does 13.5% x2 = 26.9%

[twilit quail]

the display is rounded

[daring dove]

I feel like they're scamming me rounding down

[chilly bolt]

So even gear stats have decimals lol

[frozen tide]

Can't trust shit these days i was told its truncated

[glass birch]

P2 on Wulf increases this to 20 sp . If you have P0 clannibal, P2 Wulf, and all talent nodes you get; 20 SP, 30% Heat DMG% (15% for the team), and 16% heat dmg taken on the enemy. Pretty good buffs for 80sp. 31% Heat DMG or 46% for him personally. Its not too bad honestly.

[smoky quarry]

Oh, I never read about the buffs, that's why wulf is more important on team than akekuri

[twilit quail]

no it's because he can solo give lae all of the stacks she needs

lol

[glass birch]

P5 Wulf lets him reset his combo skill CD upon using ult.

[twilit quail]

everything else is secondary

[glass birch]

So you can apply 1 stack for 100 SP, 2nd through combo skill, and reset the combo cd with ult. If you're quick with it you can get 3 heat stacks for 100 SP and 4 for 200 sp

[smoky quarry]

So...

Combat Skill - Combo Skill - Ultimate - Combat skill - Combo skill

4 stacks in a short span

[glass birch]

yeah and depending on how quick you are at popping his ult you can do Combo - Ult - Combo and let the 2nd combo procc off the first. You just have to use his ult before the grenade pops

Its tight but this way you get 2 combo skills worth of ult energy for the next ult

[smoky quarry]

interesting

Akekuri is best in AoE though, applies a lot of stacks if enemies are grouped

[glass birch]

Kinda? I'd say she's worse than wulf still since his combo is also AOE application and doesnt cost 100 SP

[daring dove]

Wulfguard is redundant in AoE content to be honest. But so is Ardelia kinda.

[smoky quarry]

Akekuri Battle + Wulfgard Combo will yield more stacks than Wulfgard Battle + Wulfgard Combo

[glass birch]

When Lae only needs 4 heat stacks, on a group of 2 or more Wulf just gets the job done himself

2 combo skills on 2+ targets and boom. Full melting flame stacks

Either way works though tbh.

I'm still waiting for Rossi's numbers to be released

[chilly bolt]

We have a whole dead week

[drifting quest]

wulf's main thing is how little sp he requires to stack as well as he does

alternatives require more sp or stack a lot slower

[daring dove]

Yvonne's set goes a long way to solving her attack problem. Reckon she'll cap at about 5.7k attack while having 98.4% CR.

Hopefully Tangtang drip marketing including kit details start early next week.

[drifting quest]

kit details wont give us anything extra

we need numbers

which we wouldnt get

[calm field]

sciel just hit lv60

[outer ermine]

pretty late compared to others

[daring dove]

How many characters does he have level 90 now with all that farming he's done?

[hollow wyvern]

why is your atk higher despite lower agi and int

[daring dove]

That's with set effective active.

[hollow wyvern]

oh ok

[calm field]

not sure, but watching his stream, he just uses his entire sanity in alluvium

[glass birch]

Whats it at w/o the set effect?

[daring dove]

Still only 4047, haven't really worked on it today. Finished my CR, an made a decent start on basic attack bonus instead.

I reckon it'll get it to about 4200 when I'm finished unbuffed. about 5.6-5.7k buffed.

[hollow wyvern]

this is where I'm at p1 with fully maxed 0% ER slab setup

[daring dove]

Yeah I worked it out I'm basically losing 600 ATK at the cost of 13.5% increased CR. But obviously once all buffs are factored in it'll be closer to 800-900 attack I think.

For a P5 buiild I'm focusing on the CR for nice consistent damage instead.

[hollow wyvern]

you get some cr, cd, and atk from various dupes, so prob doesn't change things too much

30% cd on p5 pretty big tho

[daring dove]

Yeah the main thing for me was reaching 98.4% CR during ult. To get the best value out of P5.

[hollow wyvern]

but if we dropping alesh, she's getting no atk from teammates pretty much

just her set bonus and p5

I would wait for 1.1 before min-maxing whatever you're doing tbh

might get better pieces

[daring dove]

I think the new MI pieces are for Rossi but there maybe a suprise who knows.

[hollow wyvern]

most likely is we could get MI body that gives cr or cd rather than basic%

although idk if yvonne would even use those

or a MI slab ver

[drifting quest]

i sure hope we dont get a cd body

the less critslop the better

[hollow wyvern]

p0 yvonnes really gonna want ER% body

or else tt rotations gonna be a bit yikes for them

[drifting quest]

there's timelines that work

[hollow wyvern]

but I don't think rossi needs it that much, so might not happen

[drifting quest]

but they look ass

[daring dove]

Do we know both of Tangtang talents yet officially? Would be nice if she has an ult gain talent for the team similar to Gilberta but realistically chances are very low.

[drifting quest]

yes

neither are uge

t1 is whirlpools slow enemies, speed allies

t2 is ending ult early via plunge

[daring dove]

Ah fair

[frozen tide]

T2 talents are kinda ahh

[hollow wyvern]

I think her t2 also spawns 3 ult-based whirlpools (diff color)

the question I wanna know is if they expire when ult expires or if they linger

[daring dove]

Main thing I'm hoping for from Tangtang to be honest is making Cryo team not feel cope for open world exploration.

[outer ermine]

gil+lr bs oneshots everything smh

[drifting quest]

tt should help overworld a lot

but they dont need it either so

shrug

[hollow wyvern]

tt should make mobbing bearable for non-gilb cryo for sure

[edgy crater]

tang2 ulti on 2 doggos so it won't dragged by ur off field op

[daring dove]

Ult gain Laveatain can mow down 4 packs of enemies in about 8 seconds. Gilbeta + LR seem quite a lot slower to me. But I am comparing them to the king of trash mob clearing.

Compared to most teams they're likely very good.

[hollow wyvern]

LR gonna struggle regardless without ult

yvonne gilb is insane for mobbing tho

[edgy crater]

its ange grouping too good for ow

[outer ermine]

we aint shit wo gil

hnaf bless me w luck when

[edgy crater]

oh u still trying fishing dat rng

[summer flower]

I wonder how to build her for solo

Which gear to artifice

[daring dove]

Not sure if to be impressed or report you for war crimes.

[drifting quest]

prob still just sm

staggers going to be more important then ever

[summer flower]

One doesn't exclude other

[summer flower]

You talking in different context?

Or about ember?

[drifting quest]

ember

[outer ermine]

its friday so yea lol

gotta get it done im so tired this mf

[summer flower]

Ehh.. but SM that is there is like bad stats

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

theres a reason yz never did this shit again w lr

[drifting quest]

i mean you can wait and see new gear

no reason not to

[summer flower]

hmmm

good point

but am i patient enough

[drifting quest]

if you dont have 6 days (or less) of patience then not much can help you

[gritty briar]

just make the gear and regret later!

[unreal light]

People overhype the new gear

[outer ermine]

even my fs deals diff dmg i cant even replicate it too

[daring dove]

I mean we know next to nothing about it. Personally I'd love if we got a MI set for Ember.

But it's all just speculation.

[unreal light]

We have a new character which revolves around crit

[gritty briar]

i tend to not worry about it cause i just assume any gear i'm replacing will probably get used by someone eventually

[unreal light]

The set is going to be MI with her stats

That’s a no-brainer

And I highly doubt Rossi is STR WILL

[edgy crater]

rosssi should be agi will

[unreal light]

Might be AGI WILL

[unreal light]

Yeah

[edgy crater]

no way shes str lol

[unreal light]

That would also destroy all the Fluorite MI hopes

[smoky quarry]

Isn't excessively strong, nor smart

checks out

[unreal light]

Damn wait

You know what character might win

What if her sig increases phys damage after doing elem, and elem after doing phys

And then Arclight rises from her coffin

[edgy crater]

hmm, alesh using her sig lol

bonk with ice cube

[unreal light]

Damn we really need something like that

[lost void]

Arclight DPS?

[unreal light]

I remember there was a 4* bow in genshin, that did exactly the same, but it was considered bullshit

It was fischl second sig

With some German name

[outer ermine]

last run

[smoky quarry]

How reruns work in OG AK?

[bold rose]

anyone here prefer the old Laev sig to the current one

[lost void]

Laev+ Rossi team is role switching depending on stage phase.

You dump resources on Laev for AoE while focus on vuln stacks/keep combustion on single target phase or highly mobile fight.

[bold rose]

auto clear for everything
no new PO
furnitures converted to purple tickets for some mats
free ops tokens convert to gold tickets if you max pot (same as other 5* or 6*)

[manic blade]

Is antal still BIS for like laev speed runs or?

Isn't perlica rlly goodd

[unreal light]

Nah they’re asking about character banner reruns

[robust kite]

what does intelect and will stats do? any impact on damage or smth?

[smoky quarry]

i didn't understood a single word of yours

[bold rose]

depends if your character have it as main stats or not
for laev int is main stat str is 2nd
for lr str is main stat will is 2nd

[unreal light]

If it’s golden or silver, then it does increase your atk

If it’s not, it only increases your defensive stats accordingly

[robust kite]

ohh i just realised i can click it and it says more, okay thanks guys

[manic blade]

main stat .5% atk per 1, secondary .2% atk per 1, and in the stat page scroll over each to see what it specifically does on top of that. Also, some characters secondary stats boost like heal or stuff

in skill descriptions

[lost void]

Tang tang doesn't rely on solidification vs Yvonne that is the difference. She is Avywenna of cryoteam in terms how playstyle but has focus on dot+ cc.

[unreal light]

There are events in og ak, with special event stages. Once a rerun happens, if you’ve done it previously, you won’t collect any stage rewards

[manic blade]

int gives art resistance ^

[smoky quarry]

That wasn't the question though. I was asking about event banner reruns, I should've specified

[manic blade]

finally hit the stupid breakpoint

[bold rose]

how do you get it to 265
I maxed out both xiranite gear and essence ult gain lines on her and I only got it to 260

[unreal light]

I know, that’s what I said too

[manic blade]

p3

[unreal light]

Sig

[smoky quarry]

Is it just me or lavatein has terrible rear view cause of giant halo and puffed dress?

[bold rose]

yes that's what max essence ult gain lines mean
only gilb sig has ult gain lines for her otherwise you'd be using stanza

[smoky quarry]

Kind of distracts

I use simplified model without halo, and it's way easier to look at

Let's hope we'll get something like this

[bold rose]

thorned yazhen/fluffed jincao powder is probably the best return on healing items right?
relatively easy to get for the heal power
like unless you're just skimming off your production lines these are the best I think

[smoky quarry]

Is there any reason to not skim off your production line?

Yazheng syringe regens 2k hp, more than enough

[drifting quest]

skill issue

[smoky quarry]

Can't use tacticals in actually hard modes anyway

[neat snow]

Me still using buck a

I'll make tactical if they become necessary

[smoky quarry]

Adding buff food and then restricting area of usage

[neat snow]

Most people's problem in umbral is dying so game would just be too easy with healing I guess

[smoky quarry]

You aren't expected to sweat at this stage of the game anyway

[earnest patio]

btw are there anything new coming as a better set for lae , ult gain set is still better than that hot red set right

[smoky quarry]

ult gain set has lower dps ❓

[neat snow]

Ult gain wins out with pots only

[earnest patio]

pots?

[neat snow]

Potentials

[earnest patio]

i have p0 i have been using ult gain seems good enoufgh to me as i was told earlier it has more dps then hot red one

[smoky quarry]

No info on sets, but highly doubt there'll be better set for lava, since hotworks was basically built for her

[drifting quest]

charge build can do more dps in practical scenarios

at p0p0

hot work sheets better

this has always been the case

[earnest patio]

bruh so then i need to rebuild my char

whats the rotation with hot rod then

[drifting quest]

why

if you clear why would you change build

[earnest patio]

just better dps

[smoky quarry]

isn't practical dps difference is less than percent?

[neat snow]

I use ult gain for basically everything now but initially I did use hot works to trim

[earnest patio]

oh idk that

[drifting quest]

there's no fixed 'X% more or Y% less'

its practical scenarios

every one is different

[smoky quarry]

if it works don't touch

double down if it's already artificed

[drifting quest]

Wait and see what new gear brings

And then if you really care about minmaxxed sheet dps and have the skill to not fuck up hot work rots then swap if its better

[smoky quarry]

New gear is probably forged in mind with new characters

Do we have uncovered niches atm?

[soft tendon]

worth p5ing fort on pog? currently p3

[drifting quest]

Id expect new gear to help builds that are common now that they didnt plan for

[drifting quest]

Yes if you can spare the resources

Gains arent make or break though

[smoky quarry]

p5 fortmaker beats cutter? If so, which potential?

[soft tendon]

i got 4.3k tix and i dont think ill be pulling for a looooong while

so i think its worth it

[drifting quest]

No its worse than thermite

[smoky quarry]

oh, then useless

No info on thermite rotation for now IG

[drifting quest]

Not everyone has thermite and some people dont like to share weapons

[edgy crater]

if ake n pog on same team, u cant shared thermite anyway

[smoky quarry]

Everyone gets a free thermite if they make a good choice imo

[soft tendon]

is it 250 where i start seeing massively diminishing returns

[smoky quarry]

Other weapons in the crate are terrible

[soft tendon]

or have i already reached that point

[drifting quest]

Not everyone knows about thermite being good when they start, some people misclicked, baited by ff, etc

[neat snow]

I have no idea what I even picked from the crates. I didn't know anything the first week I just clicked:)

[smoky quarry]

brother, just read

that's what I did to pick TC

[neat snow]

This my first gacha I knew literally nothing

[drifting quest]

Not like other options arent usable

[smoky quarry]

Opus: The Living P5, is it good on fluorite?

[drifting quest]

usable but not great

[smoky quarry]

any hopes for 5-star and 6-star recycling?

[honest onyx]

what is ff? firefly?

[drifting quest]

former finery

[smoky quarry]

former finery is like budget ember signature

just like thunderberge, it's terrible too

healing focused GS that's gonna be used by 2 characters

Actually, you know what I expect from gear update? New "Good Matches" for our old gear

[gritty briar]

Will greatsword when every greatsword user scales on strength...

[smoky quarry]

An IQ too high?

[honest onyx]

wait for playable that uses greatsword thru telekinesis

[midnight stirrup]

Most people picked what they picked bc they werent sure what was gonna be best at the start yet. Others picked what suited their dps best at the time.

[smoky quarry]

Imagine people who picked eminent repute

(They didn't knew it's worse grand vision)

[midnight stirrup]

I picked the claymore

Cause LR

[smoky quarry]

You mean sundered prince?

[midnight stirrup]

I got khav 5 minutes later tho

[midnight stirrup]

Ye

[twilit quail]

dont worry bros surely eminent repute will be usable for rossi

🙂

so we can buff her atk

[smoky quarry]

[twilit quail]

by making endmin a fucking

atk% slave for her

[midnight stirrup]

I thought Repute was Chang bis

[outer ermine]

[midnight stirrup]

It looked reasonable being her second bis

LOL

Shouldve thought it more trough considering im p5p5

[smoky quarry]

I'm going to have to beg my friend to buy me a Battle Pass because it would be a shame to lose so many resources, lol

20 big crates

[smoky quarry]

Chen?

Her signature is a box cutter

[midnight stirrup]

Why u not pay for it yourself

[midnight stirrup]

Im high forgive me

[smoky quarry]

I'm in 1000$ debt

[gritty briar]

i'm really trying to understand the thought process here

[midnight stirrup]

Brother

Gachas should not be ur game then

[gritty briar]

you could buy the bp and be in $1010 debt instead!

[midnight stirrup]

All the weapons are a sig for someone. Most times sigs are bis. I thought that was hers.

[smoky quarry]

avg ware in my country is 600$ btw

[midnight stirrup]

Not sure hows that difficult to understand

[smoky quarry]

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-attack-in-pain-chest-pain-gif-8730655

[smoky quarry]

The bailiffs are trying to collect money from me, but I counter them by just not having money

[gloomy sentinel]

LOL

[gritty olive]

gains here are linear

so no you can stack arts itensity

[soft tendon]

@gritty olive is there calcs for p3p5 laeva specifically

I feel like thats the point where ult gain very slightly edges out hot work because p5 sig

[gritty olive]

no i can probably tweak it for later

[soft tendon]

Would be very much appreciated

[gritty olive]

@soft tendon unlike arts intensity, their gains is something like (1000 + EM)/EM iirc

genshin

[soft tendon]

Ok so p5 fort isnt entirely luls

[drifting quest]

solid cope option

[solar pier]

Is it any worth to get potentials for Forgeborn Scathe or Artzy?

[drifting quest]

not unless you're a whale looking to speedrun

[neat snow]

It makes good item gooder

[smoky quarry]

for scythe it's

P0 100%
P5 118-125%

Negligible

[solar pier]

For Artzy?

[smoky quarry]

I don't possess numbers on artzy

but given the nature of potential balance, probably sam-ish

[honest hill]

if ur trying to speedrun then u might as well

otherwise no point

u would want to P5 ur character before P5 a weapon

[smoky quarry]

1. Speedrun by itself is pointless
2. You'll never match whale performance unless you whale too

[honest hill]

yeah there's no point

[smoky quarry]

How rams in inorganic construct be hitting me on agony

I hope they'll never use that enemy again

[undone phoenix]

JJK season 3 is peaking

Mappa decided they dont make anime, they create art

[jagged stump]

i did it, finally got a consistent rotation although super tight

[smoky quarry]

Is that arclight dps and double support?

[jagged stump]

perlica dps and triple buffer

[tight haven]

2nd m12 op

mats are once again in super hell but i got 5 days until tt

[smoky quarry]

what is bro cooking

[tight haven]

perlica dps isnt like

fraudulent

its fine

[smoky quarry]

how much crowns is that?

[tight haven]

24

every m3 is 6

[edgy crater]

6 crown == m3

[smoky quarry]

And f2p got around 40 this patch

not looking good

[tight haven]

3rd m12 is probably gonna be yvonne

the lord smiled upon me and gave me her p5 pretty painlessly

now i have two banners to get her weap p5

[smoky quarry]

oh, i get it

🐳

[edgy crater]

doesnt really matter when r9 enough to trimeed

[tight haven]

oh yeah without question here LOL

yea

masteries are like

for fun

[edgy crater]

how much damage i can slap into fatso ass lol

[tight haven]

im not masterying dp or endmin

feels like a waste

ehh

actually i might for endmin

depends on how those future story pots look

• maybe they get the amiya treatment and get class switches

[gritty briar]

i wonder if we get another pot soon

[tight haven]

wouldnt be surprised if there wasnt one in 1.1

the story in 1.1 just doesnt seem dramatic enough to warrant another pot

[gritty briar]

it'll change all the skills and you'll have to mastery again

[tight haven]

tho it is possible

[edgy crater]

unlikely

[tight haven]

okay maybe not this part of the amiya treatment

crown drought will be real next patch though

idt ill have any for rossi after doing yvonne and tt

[gritty briar]

how many did BP give? like 20 total if paid?

[tight haven]

yeah 20 total

[edgy crater]

rather than dat, we gonna hit by aanother reso drough lol

[gritty briar]

well it's probably just barely okay then if the events keeping giving so much

assuming you're not doing something crazy like m12 for no reason

[tight haven]

reso?

[edgy crater]

resources

[tight haven]

oh

i was like, "resonance..?"

[edgy crater]

protohedron gonna bottleneck u really hard

[tight haven]

pgr brain

protohedrons and tc are the devil

gold mats are the devil

everything is the devil

[edgy crater]

u need at least 3 run to get m3 alone

excluding m1 n m2 protohedron cosst lol

[tight haven]

yeah its roughhhh

weapons are also just very tc-intensive to raise

[edgy crater]

all lol

[tight haven]

just lv80>90 takes 220k

[edgy crater]

wanna make ur op smarter? pay 15k grand

[tight haven]

💔

[gritty briar]

yeah costs just feel so high

[tight haven]

the economy really doesnt like

suuuuuuuuuuck..?

it just does feel very sluggish

[edgy crater]

reso gain more shit than ak for sure

[gritty briar]

i think it's manageable as a battle pass buyer

i think it would be a lot more shit if I wasn't a buyer

[tight haven]

tbh i am so far out of the realm of the f2p/low-spender

[edgy crater]

f2p literally just make 1 team or u gonna bricked

[tight haven]

the aic quota shop is op and i have like

30000 more sanity in mats than the average player

i probably shouldnt comment on the fairness of the economy

[gritty briar]

like they release 2 characters per patch
if we're getting 20 crowns per BP and it only costs like 24 for an m12, and there's a bunch of events, it's probably fine overall if you're a light spender

[timid echo]

does perlica run stanza on yvonne’s team if xaihi is on detonation unit and gilb is on her sig?

[tight haven]

yes

[gritty briar]

and most people are not getting both characters every patch either

[timid echo]

I see, thx!

[tight haven]

poor gilb might just get kicked off yvonne's team depending on how good tt's susc is

[gritty briar]

i just feel so poor after i run out of battle pass stuff

[tight haven]

yeah you feel real rich during the like

3rd week of the patch

then you hit lv60 and

[old condor]

generally what do you guys work on next after maxing out main carry?

[tight haven]

support masteries

if they have buff/debuff gains from them

[summer flicker]

that very highly likely, and suppose her weapon has buff too

[tight haven]

this is ofc assuming your support weaps all have 3rd line +3 alr

and your hypercarry is maxed maxed

like m9/12 (can drop basics), +9/+9/+3

[smoky quarry]

phys team

I've almost finished electro and pyro

[proud vector]

Is this backed by a source? Gilb ult is pretty good all things considered. What susc does tt need?

[summer flicker]

im hoping tangtang can do some good dmg

to feel good to farm with yvonne gilb

[tight haven]

if rumors are true and tt has up to 30% susc then she just needs to deal enough as a subdps over gilb to beat her

we dont have numbers but if tt's damage sucks then gilb generally wins

[proud vector]

Holy 30 susc

[tight haven]

that number is like

literally hearsay

[proud vector]

Now that’s cope

[tight haven]

but assuming its true its then just a matter of calcing out how much dpr tt needs to kick off gilb

[edgy crater]

should be 24

[tight haven]

bc gilb's ult is rather inconvenient for yvonne

5s is not a long time

[smoky quarry]

yvonne ult is inconvient by itself

[proud vector]

True… but lift is pretty nice

[tight haven]

she does feel like shit to play yes

[proud vector]

And Yvonne ult has jank with TT’s

[tight haven]

tt's ult is like

so clearly catering to yvonne

its hilarious

[edgy crater]

cant say dat yet

tho its really questionable if u kick ange for tt

[tight haven]

yes it would be very much up in the air regardless

maybe 1.1 drops a crazy weapon that ange can use but perlica cant

maybe new gear makes ange better too

lots of maybes

[edgy crater]

maybe ur bs rot can be faster but ur ulti number ssuffered for sure

[tight haven]

yes if youre speedrunning i think gilb is just

really hard to beat

[edgy crater]

how much her ulti debuff again? 30%?

[proud vector]

Depends on the vulns no?

[summer flicker]

that's like impossible

[edgy crater]

0-4 vuln

kinda forgot lol

[warm galleon]

30% at m1 +3% per vul stack

[summer flicker]

gilb has 30 ~ 42 susc 😭

[edgy crater]

also this kinda cope tho, unless u slap new gear on xaihi which lower ur entire amp

[summer flicker]

if you run perlica, you can have like 2-3 vulv stack with gilb i think

[edgy crater]

if tang2 replace alesh, sp debt lmao

[summer flicker]

its doable

[edgy crater]

or u just make ulti bot tt

[edgy crater]

for 1 rot yeah

[summer flicker]

you cant ult bot tho, if you want the full sus 😭

[smoky quarry]

not like alesh was generating a lot of sp in the first place

[edgy crater]

better than nothing

[summer flicker]

i made a loop rot kek

[edgy crater]

aint ur rot like really janky

[summer flicker]

kill tangtang qol, for cyro stacks

[edgy crater]

expected lmao

[summer flicker]

i mean its with gilb

[edgy crater]

anyway, time to farm obj essence lmao

[summer flicker]

its a must do

because you cant just like use tangtang ult during yvonne ult because gilb ult

that's like take away 2 stacks from yvonne 😭

[edgy crater]

open with tang2 ulti?

[summer flicker]

no open with gilb skill

next rotation after this, just dont gilb skill

or you can gil skill too, because 2sp at the end of rotation

[edgy crater]

hmm yeah

[summer flicker]

and you ahve your tangtang ult free

[edgy crater]

ulti bot turbo except ocasional xaihi bs

[summer flicker]

its like gilb ult kinda suck

😭

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HCPf4_bbEAEBVSf.mp4

[edgy crater]

but without it, yvonne lose its damage lol

[summer flicker]

i could see yvonne tangtang xaihi perlica maybe do better than this team

[proud vector]

Not the LR bottom right nooooooooooo

[summer flicker]

if tangtang have some personal dmg

[edgy crater]

assuming we see lvl 60 mob n lvl 90 tang2 on dev video, doubt

[summer flicker]

they said on dev vid she is dps able

[edgy crater]

at what degree

[summer flicker]

so she could at least have subdps dmg

they just said:" she perfect at both damage dealer and support"

or sth

so that's quite up in the air

[warm galleon]

Everyone is dps
Some do 50k per second
Some do 5 per second

[edgy crater]

i mean, if the damage spread like 90%, 8% tang2, 1%, 1% tang2 technically 2nd best dps in those team

[summer flicker]

also i think chilvaric maybe better for xaihi in the rot i created 😭

[edgy crater]

uptime?

[summer flicker]

ye up time

[edgy crater]

meanwhile xaihi dps like worse than ardel fart

[summer flicker]

this is for det

you buff like half the ult

[restive crescent]

what sp refund r we assuming rn

[summer flicker]

10 per water sprouts created

aka 30 max

that's still a bit unsure, so need number, waiting for them to release them

[glass birch]

Numbers would be nice

[summer flicker]

hoping her sus is like 18 or 21 or 24 sus and her weapon buff something

[potent hornet]

i really hope they dump the numbers on us this weekend

[warm galleon]

Do you tc with tt wep or with clannibal?

[gritty olive]

Btw if yall sending datamined data here if preload happens properly spoiler it

[summer flicker]

there no even numbers to tc

😭

[gritty olive]

.datamine

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086674729865226/1329386702946566206/unknown-1.png

[edgy crater]

hg datamine basically u jusst open explorer on ur pc

[fathom quest]

GUYS THIS IS BIG!! THE AETHER ELEMENT WAS USED BY THE ENEMY IN YVONNE'S NARRATIVE EVENT!!

the dmg indicator was purple

which doesnt match any known element color

[summer flower]

It matches to aether doesn't it?

Isn't it purple in-game?

[oak vigil]

Hmmmm, my guess is it will be like a dark element in some games (where it’s only very weak to light and vice versa light to dark, with others being maybe neutral)

[fathom quest]

ye

im excited as to how aether will react to other elements

is ts enougj for p5 fangyi?

[drifting quest]

if you're lucky you've got about 180 extra pulls

if you have average to below average luck you're several hundred short

[fathom quest]

aight, fangyi in 1.3 anyways so i still have time

[modest thorn]

480 is about expected

[neat snow]

You need like 250k orbs to p5 a limited

[modest thorn]

I usually aim to have 3-4 pulls for each limited

[tight haven]

generally expect a p5 to take 480 pulls

this assumes you win the 50/50 at least 4 times out of the ~7 youre likely to get in those 480 pulls

(assuming an average 6* drop rate of every 65-70 pulls)

[potent hornet]

what is the over under that the new gold gear will be level 80?

or do we think it will stay 70

[neat snow]

im not a gambler

[potent hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[drifting quest]

Every single piece of information suggests level 70

[frozen tide]

Lvl 71 gear incoming

[proud vector]

lv 69

[digital scroll]

@tight haven yo do you still think p4 lifeng should run slabs?

[tight haven]

i have found xiranite to be comfier

personally

[digital scroll]

even on p4?

[tight haven]

i run slabs for overworld

especially on p4

[glass birch]

The new gear is the same as current gear

[tight haven]

i think p5 slabs can be considered again

[glass birch]

Just different stat arrangements

[oak vigil]

Ooooh okay

[digital scroll]

so that would be double slab+frontiers+ult dmg% sm fist?

did you artifice ?

[tight haven]

double slab ult% fist and frontiers/bonekrusha heavy armor

[digital scroll]

mmm

[tight haven]

fists like

actually suck

a lot

only good thing abt them is agi main

[digital scroll]

rip

[tight haven]

theyre hilariously easy to replace

[digital scroll]

guess i should artifice the slabs and the chest

[tight haven]

tee bee eych i wouldnt artifice ANYTHING

right now

[digital scroll]

oh

[tight haven]

in 1.1 we could get agi main slabs

[digital scroll]

okay

[tight haven]

and lynx slab is dead

[digital scroll]

no artifice then

cool

[tight haven]

yep

[digital scroll]

gotcha

thx

[tight haven]

just save cores for now

np!

[glass birch]

Yeah, save artificing until after 1.1. We're 6 days out so it's better to just wait and not risk having to re-do artificing

[gritty olive]

how bad is last rite with lung + r9 abilities

and no artifice

[edgy crater]

no idea, only ever testing lr sundered

[pulsar sail]

exactly when does the timer begin for the boss fights in respect to the medals?
does it begin when you load into the arena? or does it start when the health bar appears?

[gritty briar]

i've heard both answers multiple times and at this point i just wanna see a test done for it

[glass birch]

It starts on load-in

once you're able to move, the timer is active

[pulsar sail]

thanks.

[pulsar sail]

I'll guess I'll record to check.

[viscid berry]

whats the rotation for laev/wulf/ake/gilberta team?

[boreal siren]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[rare rover]

first

throw away akekuri and use the goat antal

[gritty olive]

should be smth like
gilb bs -> laev n2 -> [ake bs] -> n5 -> gilb pop -> wulf cs -> laev cs -> laev n5 -> laev skill

idk what a proper way to call this since i dont have gilb

[viscid berry]

but ake is so cute...

[gritty olive]

but ive been told that so you dont just haphazardly consume the heat infliction to get corrosion due to gilb pop

[rare rover]

are u saying the supreme dragon lizard goat Antal isnt also just as cute?

[gritty olive]

so doing that ake skill by laev n2 makes sure that laev n5 eats the heat infliction and not the gilb skill nature inflictionn

[viscid berry]

exactly

[rare rover]

gasp

[viscid berry]

ooh that sounds so much more complex than i thought, the timing required xD maybe ill go back to ardellia

[signal sundial]

lowkey i switch to ardelia just because i cant time the gilberta bs properly

but if you're using gilberta just to group mobs up then i guess it really doesnt matter

[vague rampart]

is this a perfect rotation enough for phys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KkxSSwiB4
can it be much better?

[signal sundial]

or if you're doing trim bosses you can just go in with 4 heat stacks

[viscid berry]

i thought heat stacks reset when you enter the boss instance?

[signal sundial]

look at me spreading misinformation

.misinfo

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-pepe-cat-misinformation-gif-249026761315742996

[rare rover]

[signal sundial]

i was genuinely unsure tbh

i figured since ulti doesnt get reset

[gritty olive]

is double basic dmg% good for laev

interesting for some1 to suggest it in #endfield

[smoky quarry]

Fun fact: with sanity discounts, you can do 4.5 protocol dives daily instead of just 3

[unreal light]

You can’t do 0.5 runs

[fathom quest]

fun fact, i have all the trimmed medal

[unreal light]

[fathom quest]

fun fact, i have about 240+ pulls

[unreal light]

That’s #theorycrafting

[signal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/there-was-an-attempt-you-tried-sticker-the-more-you-know-you-tried-gif-7871343

[gritty olive]

now do is5 ed245 d18 10 plans or less

[viscid mural]

my theory is that Xaihi

BS Arts Amp + (Ult Cryo/Nature Arts Amp + (N<=30%)) = X amount of Amp with a duration of 6 seconds

I'll call this Xaihi Corelativity theory

[viscid mural]

fun fact operators count

[proud vector]

TangTang can... count?!

[unreal light]

She counts up to Kthree

[lost void]

Gilberta Arts sus+ Tang Tang art sus + Xaihi arts amp if you will not include LR or Yvonne in the team or assuming you don't have them/use them.

Definitely Yvonne+Tangtang+Fluorite for triple gunner otherwise Yv+ T² would be good duo.

[unreal light]

Kone, Ktwo, Kthree… Bang Bang! 🔫 🔫

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1471282559974379664/chen-end-field.gif

[cinder oxide]

Need some math help with pulling

Should I do net 20 pulls to garuantee 2 round of 50/50 on TT even if I alr have Yvonne

Is that statistically smart

[unreal light]

If you like her and are able to do that without any consequences, no one stops you

[cinder oxide]

The consequence is losing 2 50/50 somehow

[unreal light]

You have a very big chance to that

25%

[cinder oxide]

Yeah but is it better than getting only 1 50/50 and wasting the 40 pity to garuantee after

[bronze plume]

just

do whatever lets you have 120 pulls for tangtangs banner

or closer to that amount

[frozen tide]

Chat should i sell my left kidney to get tang 120

If i lose my 50 50

[bronze plume]

you only need 1 kidney tbf

[bronze plume]

according to google selling yo kidney in the us illegally is worth about $176,000 USD

therefore

thats a lot of tangtangs

however it is illegal

[frozen tide]

Can I make an nft of my kidney

And sell that instead

[bronze plume]

therefore do you wish to "risk it for the biscuit"

[bronze plume]

do nfts even exist still

[frozen tide]

Idk

[warm galleon]

Lmao, I tried selling my soul to the devil(which includes my kidney) he offered 32 cents

[bronze plume]

he telling you youre worthless gang

[warm galleon]

[bronze plume]

32 cents is 32 cents tho

[dawn patrol]

chat should i skip paying rent to spend on endfield

[warm galleon]

My children have not eaten for 3 days but atleast I have p5 Xaihi.

[lusty kernel]

Is this hers ? Im pkanning on building my electric team

My avywena has jet

Which 2 charcters to put with them?

Gilberta is on my mind

[frozen tide]

I think wnn is good for personal dmg

[rare rover]

do you really need a bed to sleep on?

[modest thorn]

if u think about it renting is worse than buying a house outright so you might as well just not rent

[frozen tide]

Can't recall what bis arclight supp weap was off the top of my head

Might be fortmaker

Or thermite

[modest thorn]

are these weapons never on new weapon banners?

[frozen tide]

Gilb perli

[frozen tide]

Probably not since they are technically their own banner sigs

[lusty kernel]

Whta weapon for perlica

[modest thorn]

[odd wren]

ant thoughts?

[frozen tide]

Deto unit

Oblivion is also good for high investment

[frozen tide]

They can make new chars as strong as they want so power creep is purely up to hg

[bronze plume]

more areas as to which you can buff your dmg does make it so in the long run you can take alot more time to powercreep stuff due to more things you can account for

but it is entirely up to HG as to when, how and how much something gets powercrept

[frozen tide]

Also certain chars are just more prone to power creep

[bronze plume]

dps tax

[frozen tide]

Antals lizard ahh is dissapearing off the face of earth

Once more ampers appear

And yeah dps in general

[bronze plume]

akekuri could very well fall off the face of the earth

if they made rossi a heat vanguard those losers smh

clearly they nerfed akes sp regen to 80 on ult not because it was op but because the year 1 anni op is a 6 star myrtle

[odd wren]

Future proof endmin here we go

[frozen tide]

Endmin is potential man with pots

[bronze plume]

really depends on the pots for how useful he will be in the long run

and also

[odd wren]

Whats with the term potential man/woman first time i heard

[unreal light]

Thermite

[bronze plume]

if endmin doesnt get anymore elements to his name like most gachas like to do these days

[unreal light]

It’s stronger even for her own damage, than 12q p5

[frozen tide]

Stronger than wnn?

[bronze plume]

i think its just a way of saying this character has potential because we dont know much yet

[unreal light]

As for WNN, can’t tell, the bonus arts doesn’t really lean in the damaging buffs

[bronze plume]

.surtr

[crystal coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1330097664011800649/image0-1.png

[bronze plume]

potential lore women

[unreal light]

Can do real quick, gimme 10m

[odd wren]

Oh ok ok

[bronze plume]

because she has 0 fucking lore

but in endfield

we get a small itty bitty amount of lore

[frozen tide]

Surtr the potential lore and potential dps ceiling

True potential woman

[bronze plume]

clearly they are going to make all the reconveners op

dont look at snowshine

defender tax

why defend when i can murder and not need to defend

[frozen tide]

How many recons are there rn

Surtr eyja ange

Snowshine

Da pan

[bronze plume]

surtr, eyja, ange, hellagur, aurora

5 atm

[frozen tide]

Ohh hellagur

Forgot bout that unc

[bronze plume]

chen is a decender and antal is a decender or just same lizard race

[gritty olive]

just the same probably

you cant have a lot of variance between lizards ig?

[frozen tide]

There's so many types of lizards tho

[unreal light]

Wait no WNN is like mega bullshit lmao

I ain’t even going to calculate that sorry

Substat AI

Passive adds 19% bonus damage, after Arclight Ult

Lmao

😭 😭 😭

Of course thermite is stronger

It has substat atk%

Passive atk%

And 2 stacks of atk% to both Arclight and her team

Okay I’ll do that for the sake of team damage measurement only, perchance some Perlica will be able to gain something from 123 ai electrification

So well in electric team, you have 5 during the stagger window, where Arc Electrification is applied

With thermal your electrification is x1,384

WNN it becomes x1,52 damage

That’s the overall team damage per 52 sec rot

Perlica wears 3x pulser + Slab

Arclight drops a fourth of her damage

Avywenne ~10%

Perl 4,3%

[valid zealot]

Thank you hornymonster.

[timber harness]

atp its for gameplay balance reasons tbh

Since they dont make the mc directly stronger by buffing the kit just giving them a new element and dropping a more modern kit is good for new accounts/f2p. that's usually what it turns into

some use it as a way to also advertise the "free" version of a premium team as well

i guess the one exception i seen was the spectro rover buffs in wuwa

[split moon]

Quick question, sorry if its too much text but which one of these 2 things would be better for a Chen in a Lifeng/Endmin/Akekuri team?

+108% dmg on battle skill and combo skill
+54% stagger on battle skill and combo skill
+8% atk
On vulnerability applied +8% physical dmg for 15s max 4 stacks,
If target is full vulnerability then +16% physical dmg for 10s

OR

+59.8% physical dmg
+20% stagger
On vulnerability applied one hit of 250% atk and 10 stagger 15s cooldown

[peak void]

2nd sounds like swordmancer so js go with that

chen also does a lot of stagger with her talent so +20% stagger from swordmancer gets alot of value

[split moon]

Thx!!!

[proud vector]

Chen also does a lot of her damage through ult so

Just buffing battle and combo skill isn’t as strong as it looks

[peak void]

i wanted to say that too but gave up lmao

idk how to say it

[split moon]

It had been eating at me that i couldn't maintain the uptime of the aethertech buff with just Akekuri so i thought about switching to swordmancer

Will do that

[proud vector]

As an added bonus

In overworld trash fights swordmancer lets you explode things in less than a second

it’s nice

[barren wing]

anyone know if this can activate frontiers? i assume no but wanted to be sure

[dry kindle]

no

return =/= generated

[split moon]

How do %atk compare to %dmg bonus?

I suppose not 1% = 1%

[summer flicker]

iirc, i saw ppl say its 1% =2.5% bonus

[split moon]

Thx

[normal tangle]

greatly depends on the operators in your team and their builds

it's all relative

[split moon]

Hmmm

[smoky quarry]

atk has more power over damage, cause it is a separate multiplier

all dmg% multipliers are summarized under brackets, while attack is outside of them

imagine
(x+y)*z

Where "x" and "y" are dmg%, and "z" is attack%

If the damage% bracket is already diluted by other multipliers, attack% will be more effective for increasing damage

[gritty olive]

depends if the atk% is just 1% while dmg while having 100% you get 100% more

[frozen tide]

The ratio depends heavily on circumstance but currently atk percent is pretty much always more valuable than dmg percent and by a large margin.

[gritty olive]

would you consider a rare buff being good when its only like 5%

[dry kindle]

is it free

[smoky quarry]

9/9 attack% is like +36%

[gritty olive]

that or +40 mainattribute

[smoky quarry]

which is a lot

[frozen tide]

At the same percentage atk is pretty much always more valuable

[gritty olive]

yeah its pbig for 6* since it doesnt step on anybody's toes atm

so its just cost opportunity moment

like maximizing a function:
x + y + z = 8
x * y * (z + 1)

[smoky quarry]

biggest damage contributor so far (as I understood) is main attribute

[gritty olive]

now that highly depends

very very very volatile

[smoky quarry]

In general, the more individual multipliers, the more effective the increase. I learned this back in Risk of Rain 2.

[frozen tide]

Main attribute percent is usually quite high value yes

But because of it's very limited sources

It's not always desirable to go for

[bronze plume]

i have a dislike for team-build

[proud vector]

eh?

[smoky quarry]

man got some beef with them

[proud vector]

i like the old
2+2 = 1+3
2x2 > 1x3

be like the square, well rounded

[frozen tide]

Where it gets complicated

[rare rover]

main markiplier

[bronze plume]

ive been pinged there like 5 times just because someone says they dont like ardelia

i should change me ego

[frozen tide]

Is that not all mults have the same weight for sources

[proud vector]

bruh

thats harrassment

time to sue

[frozen tide]

Dmg bonus has higher percent than atk from same sources etc

Tho that specific comparison

Due to atk percent being far less abundant still is basically always better

[rare rover]

lol mb, your our resident ardelia lover in our minds XD

[gritty olive]

me when the minmax is minmaxing

x + y = 4
max xy?
stuff like that

[bronze plume]

smh

[gritty olive]

but its kinda hard with more variables, and we cant just easily have a 100% total for atk and dmg buff and work out whats better since stat bonuses are not that homogeneous

[frozen tide]

Its slightly more depth than that

Due to different weight from same sources

[proud vector]

a lot more

but the core idea stands

saturation is pog

[short belfry]

hi, is detonation unit much better than chivalric virtues for xaihi, like higher buff for yvonne or nah?

[gritty olive]

depends if we get a combustion only unit later that spams arts intensity

[proud vector]

surprisingly situational

[gritty olive]

and they cant scale with any other stat

[summer flicker]

similar performance

[proud vector]

detonation unit and chilvalric are pretty close together all things considered

[frozen tide]

I haven't run any yvonne calcs but from doing lr calcs for lr xai perli ard deto and chiv is extremely close when no food

With food deto pushes forward a good bit

[summer flicker]

but chiv prolly have more up time

[normal tangle]

any kinowers know why my perlica is doing like no dmg? am i missing something

this bitch just did 10k on an ult

[proud vector]

chilvalric buff lasts longer and atk% is good
but deto unit's damage taken percent is a slightly better bracket even

[rare rover]

uh yes, the thing your missing is damage

[proud vector]

both are solid

[normal tangle]

stanza essence is maxed because i stole from laeva

[frozen tide]

Huh does detos uptime not get 100 on yvonne comp

[normal tangle]

thank god laeva teams don't use stanza

[summer flicker]

chilvaric gonna be better in tangtang yvonne

[rare rover]

fym, gil uses stanza

[normal tangle]

gilb laeva is not a real comp

[bronze plume]

most people dont use gilb laev icl

[rare rover]

well i do okay

[normal tangle]

makes heat infliction really annoying

[frozen tide]

Gil antal laev is kinda cooking

[normal tangle]

burning the kitchen down

[rare rover]

lit my team kek

[bronze plume]

god id hate to run that

[rare rover]

i like it, mostly cause antal and wul has super good synergy but also gil is cute

[normal tangle]

okay but where do i get that

which part of the build is fucked

[rare rover]

uh ask dmg to come nicely

[normal tangle]

oh i see

i just need to send RSVP invitation letters?

[rare rover]

perhaps

[short belfry]

i see. i have the free box and im not sure on what to get so i was thinking of deto. the thing tho is i dont think i'll be building electro team anytime soon coz i heard its quite complex in terms of rotation but holy cow so much dmg and idk if im up for that, so i guess i'll keep the box for now.

[proud vector]

thats the spirit

hoardhoardhoard

I still have my 6* standard box lolol

[frozen tide]

3 intensity pieces and 1 ult charge piece isn't a very dmg oriented setup

[normal tangle]

well i mean

[frozen tide]

And also team buffs increase dmg significantly

[normal tangle]

that set bonus is +50% electric dmg for her

[short belfry]

i got thermite cutter from mine, and its so funny coz all 3 teams i have want thermite cutter lol, physical, heat, and now ice with yvonne

[rare rover]

who uses thermite on ice

[short belfry]

alesh?

[normal tangle]

alesh lowkey not a real unit

[proud vector]

wdymmmm

[rare rover]

oh, tbh i never really think about that dude bro, i forget he exists

[proud vector]

i will defend his racoon ass

[bronze plume]

most forget he exists

[frozen tide]

Which is what every other dps also have smth equivalent of from set bonus+individual set pieces that cater to dmg

[bronze plume]

what is their to defend

[frozen tide]

Also if you stack team buffs for perli ult it'll still do more

[proud vector]

...gamba

[frozen tide]

But you prob don't wanna bother since perli isn't the dmg cashout anyw

[proud vector]

and shatter stuffs

[normal tangle]

this is a perli in yvonne comp

but her dmg still feels too low

10k is crazy

[frozen tide]

Perli is usually just a support

[normal tangle]

shes subdps

[frozen tide]

Forced lvl 2 ele with cs so no sp cost

Ult low cost low cd high stanza uptime

[frozen tide]

Not rly outside electro

She can be built for sub dps but like

Probably not optimal for yvonne

And you have her built for support anyw

[normal tangle]

i see

[drifting quest]

No preload

Its over

[summer flicker]

[peak void]

I hate new versions

[gritty olive]

?

we just wait tomorrow then

.tomorrow

[crystal coral]

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[drifting quest]

Earliest we get the news is like post maint

Or maybe during maint

So next thursday

But because its no preload everyone is downloading at the same time so rates will suffer

So it might be a find out when it goes live moment

[summer flicker]

i love how

int stacking xaihi literally have 0.4% ult eff above my min requirement

😭

but if tangtang refund 15sp per water sprout then

xaihi needs 45% ult eff

[smoky quarry]

Do separate xiranite set buffs stacks or no?

[summer flicker]

no

ideally tangtang wear it if she can buff anything

gilb only trigger it at the end of rot

xaihi int stacking, you can sacrifice that 😭 for the set buff because xaihi giving out the most consistently

but ideally tangtang is a xiranite slave

trigger through her combo or sth

cuz similar to gilb, she only trigger the sus at like 3/5 of the rot which is kinda 😭

love the vision of 2 xiranite set and still buff only 2/5 of the rotation

[dry kindle]

just refreshes duration

[smoky quarry]

So if I slot both antal and gilbert, one has to wear ult charge set?

[peak void]

yea but then neither of them have other options anw

[drifting quest]

Gilb can build a bit of damage without entirely griefing, or depending on rot they alternate procs to maintain uptime

[summer flicker]

gilb using stanza cant alternate procs tho

tragic

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need good tangtang weapon

[outer ermine]

im switching to yvonne

[summer flicker]

goodluck

[outer ermine]

just gotta wait for tangtang pulls

im not even gonna bother w sub 5 rhod, i hate that mf

gib new umbral

[summer flicker]

🐳

😭

[outer ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/panto-pt-ajitani-hifumi-hifumi-blue-archive-gif-16817230695535296570

luck

[summer flicker]

what luck gib u p5 lr, and now p3 yvonne sig

😭

[outer ermine]

the one that forever cripples my critfish on lr

150 runs today and not a SINGLE true crit w like 50 iframes to play on

everything from mirage, to freeze, to even the burst crit but not cs mentally done atp

atleast ard crit ig

[summer flicker]

mi security lr

[outer ermine]

ive considered like a billion times, even waiting for the new one

ill just yvonne, id rather grind to not crit than crit

ill actually be impressed if theres another mf that even tries that rot

[summer flicker]

[outer ermine]

skill req: just iframe bozo

at most this mf

[dry kindle]

kanami jumpscare

wheres 1.1 already aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[drifting quest]

thursday

no preload doomed