if lr t2 xaihi gilb is good, then sure ill get her
#theorycrafting
midnight stirrup
warm galleon
What if tt wep turns fluo into a better dps 
proud vector
^
drifting quest
lock in
edgy crater
if lr t2 xaihi gilb is good, then sure ill get her
this should be good (?) we can use her as ulti bot only
lyric latch
TT seens to get Cryo DMG buff from her weapon when applying with her Battle Skill so... rip Fluorite if thats the case
drifting quest
banger tv show
midnight stirrup
this should be good (?) we can use her as ulti bot only
why would she be an ult bot if she applies cryo stacks
warm galleon
https://giphy.com/gifs/breakdown-BhbdQFjtHhwvS
And then p2 
midnight stirrup
am i missing something
daring dove
banger tv show
Used to be 
drifting quest
i never watched the new stuff cannot comment
daring dove
i never watched the new stuff cannot comment
Nobody did.
Not even the production staff's families.
edgy crater
why would she be an ult bot if she applies cryo stacks
her ulti give cryo stack + assuming with ardelia
edgy crater
so shes glorified alesh
better one as no rng involved
midnight stirrup
so she replaces alesh in yvonne too
warm galleon
You jinx it, now you'll have her at p5
proud vector
How is that better
warm galleon
what does this even mean
You'll lose all 5050 to ardelia
smoky quarry
if anything sigs have shown so far theyre very specific to the unit
I mean, kraven is bis for snowshine dps
warm galleon
About to
midnight stirrup
nah
edgy crater
hmm or like lr xaihi tang2 perlica/ange
midnight stirrup
I mean, kraven is bis for snowshine dps
who tf is kraven
edgy crater
khrav
midnight stirrup
oh
warm galleon
She good
midnight stirrup
i was talking about limited sigs
daring dove
You'll lose all 5050 to ardelia
I mean Ardelia potentials are some of the better ones in the game rn, I can think of worse fates. Her P5 could be argued to be the strongest. 
smoky quarry
How do you play this team?
midnight stirrup
I mean Ardelia potentials are some of the better ones in the game rn, I can thin...
i thought everything other than p1 was ass
smoky quarry
I mean Ardelia potentials are some of the better ones in the game rn, I can thin...
aside from sa...
warm galleon
I mean Ardelia potentials are some of the better ones in the game rn, I can thin...
Well, I rather lose the 5050 to yvon on next two banner 
smoky quarry
i thought everything other than p1 was ass
p4 laeva allows you to swap ONE armor piece to get 20% more heat damage
peak if you ask me
midnight stirrup
p4 laeva allows you to swap ONE armor piece to get 20% more heat damage
were talking about ardelia
daring dove
i thought everything other than p1 was ass
Naw, her P5 is really strong. Since it allows you to nearly chain corrosion & reach peak corrosion debuffs on enemies.
smoky quarry
were talking about ardelia
i thought it was talk about leg potentials in genereal
tight haven
tangtang potentials:
Potential 1: Battle Skill IMA WAVERIDAAH! improved: Casting the Battle Skill now creates 2 Waterspouts. Waterspout radius +40%.
Potential 2: Agility +30, ATK +15%
Potential 3: Talent Fam of Honor improved: Whirlpools also grant +10% Arts Amp to allied Operators.
Potential 4: Ultimate DA CHIEF SEES YOU! improved: Ultimate Energy cost -15%.
Potential 5: Ultimate DA CHIEF SEES YOU! improved: Performing a dive attack during OLDEN STARE, resets Tangtang's Combo Skill cooldown and refreshes the duration of OLDEN STARE. Triggers once per 60s.
SOURCE: ||my mind||
half cosmos
How do you play this team?
just gotta worry about Gil’s nature inflict when accounting melting flame stack gain
midnight stirrup
Naw, her P5 is really strong. Since it allows you to nearly chain corrosion & re...
hmm i should read her potentials
smoky quarry
tangtang potentials:
Potential 1: Battle Skill **IMA WAVERIDAAH!** improved: Ca...
actual dive attack usage?
smoky quarry
just gotta worry about Gil’s nature inflict when accounting melting flame stack ...
Isn't her combat skill completely ignored in comps like that?
midnight stirrup
Funny af that t2 is still a unit both lr and yvonne want rather than being changed in a way to only fit yvonne
yvonne cant catch a break
half cosmos
Isn't her combat skill completely ignored in comps like that?
i don’t have Gil but i’d assume so
tight haven
yvonne is better than lr stop coping, posts a video where yvonne stands there like an idiot for 5 seconds and then uses her final strike while the boss doesnt move
warm galleon
tangtang potentials:
Potential 1: Battle Skill **IMA WAVERIDAAH!** improved: Ca...
Replace one ult pot with one combo pot to make it more believable.
warm galleon
P5 is usually the ult
smoky quarry
Is LR future proof?
tight haven
well tbf
drifting quest
Is LR future proof?
minmax? no
general clearing? maybe
smoky quarry
i get mixed data here
midnight stirrup
not rly
half cosmos
Is LR future proof?
Depends on how they manage the powercreep curve
daring dove
hmm i should read her potentials
P5 effectively gives her a 15 second combo trigger, an increases the time corroison lingers on the enemy from 7 to 11 seconds. Corrosion reaches peak effectiveness at 10 seconds applied on the enemy. There's a reason the biggest LR nuke videos usually feature Ardelia over Gilberta from whales. Ardelia at peak is stronger than Gilberta at peak. That said Gilberta is a very comfy character so both have their positives.
tight haven
my take is that we should not use the word "futureproof" until we get real content
drifting quest
minmaxxing lr is already crept by yvonne
tight haven
because right now everything could be cleared by an infant playing on a nokia
midnight stirrup
^
drifting quest
tight haven
she rly does
half cosmos
leek woman creeps everyone fr
midnight stirrup
hella combo string for something lr does in 5s
tight haven
shes undeniably slightly better than lr for fast-clearing shit
but oh my lord she feels awful to use
not that lr is the queen of smooth gameplay but yvonne makes her look like a balloon animal
midnight stirrup
fast clearing makes sense kinda
but like
realistically
whos doing that besides a small group
casuals will never play at that level
tight haven
tbf
that small group is the only audience we cater to here
ostensibly
but we do get a lot of casuals in here so i will continue the yvonne slander
edgy crater
so now, what lr rot with tang2, also should i switch to yinglung lr or not 
midnight stirrup
too early to tell breh
edgy crater
warm galleon
Inb4 lr + tang bis is yvon
edgy crater
shit, back to waiting gaming then
smoky quarry
No info on green haired female operator that's after fangyi?
midnight stirrup
i wouldnt be surprised
tight haven
lizhiyan?
midnight stirrup
if fangyi isnt till 1.3
tight haven
absolutely nothing
tight haven
if fangyi isnt till 1.3
same
midnight stirrup
and we get mi fu and green hair first
tight haven
i feel like they dont want to waste mifu as a prime slot
midnight stirrup
has nothing to do with akef
smoky quarry
Yeah, she looks fire. And she's a bird
midnight stirrup
but archons also always release
tight haven
and i feel like its odd to put fangyi before mifu
midnight stirrup
at .3 patch
smoky quarry
warm galleon
I would assume we'll meet 1.4 characters on 1.1 or 1.2 storyline.
drifting quest
gotta give f2p's time to save between mifu and fangyi
daring dove
Inb4 lr + tang bis is yvon <:PerliWheeze:1171272662664892437>
Yvonne will be stronger with Tangtang than LR, that said I do like the idea of not having too swap characters constantly in battle. So if you're just pilotingTangtang I reckon LR will feel more comfy.
With Yvonne you'll need to swap to her to deal her damage.
smoky quarry
gotta give f2p's time to save between mifu and fangyi
Is mifu really liked all that much? Completely different audiences for these two characters also
It's more like, they should take a break between rossi and tangtang
midnight stirrup
I think mifu is the ugliest design in this game
smoky quarry
cause again, same audience
drifting quest
they're assumedly paired on the same team
midnight stirrup
but to each their own
drifting quest
I think mifu is the ugliest design in this game
foul from a lr design shiller
midnight stirrup
atleast she doesnt have 3 billion colors clashing
smoky quarry
I think mifu is the ugliest design in this game
LR design is terrible
midnight stirrup
midnight stirrup
hit a nerve
smoky quarry
What kind of binding vow makes her wear that
midnight stirrup
idrc i like men
drifting quest
the downscale
midnight stirrup
the downscale
i see the vision
smoky quarry
idrc i like men
What do you think about alesh?
smoky quarry
i see the vision
grand vision?
midnight stirrup
What do you think about alesh?
mid
all men in this game are mid so far
asdaghir is cool tho
or whatever tf his name is
midnight stirrup
enion we rly are twins icl
edgy crater
Yvonne will be stronger with Tangtang than LR, that said I do like the idea of n...
xaihi bs demand u to control lr at least once tho
tight haven
imo its ember immediately followed by mifu
midnight stirrup
how we always on that telepathy shit
tight haven
nobody will admit that mifu is lowkey ugly asf
drifting quest
but that looks like a random enemy
he's just an aurafarmer
midnight stirrup
nobody will admit that mifu is lowkey ugly asf
ong
tangtang is ugly too but atleast she has a theme
like she doesnt blend in
but mifu
no excuse
mix of 2/3 animals, 60 colors going on at the same time
smoky quarry
tangtang is ugly too but atleast she has a theme
Eyepatch is kind of nerfing her looks
midnight stirrup
LMAO
tight haven
mix of 2/3 animals, 60 colors going on at the same time
neapolitan ice cream fit
midnight stirrup
i rly am contrarian to my bone
tight haven
its so cooked
normal tangle
I think mifu is the ugliest design in this game
i lowk forgot what she even looked like
proud vector
huh?
smoky quarry
i lowk forgot what she even looked like
abusive mommy ahh character
tight haven
i lowk forgot what she even looked like
idr where you have to go to see her in the overworld
midnight stirrup
i lowk forgot what she even looked like
she looks like an oxelotl is my guess
but idk
tight haven
i think its fangyis bum ass office
edgy crater
i lowk forgot what she even looked like
shes just average cn aunt
midnight stirrup
Id say rn
tight haven
inshallah sister nefarith will redecorate that shit like why is there so mucu unused space
smoky quarry
shes just average cn aunt
that's pretty accurate actually
tight haven
you could fit like
proud vector
midnight stirrup
rossi, lr, gilberta, yvonne and ashdagir are the best designs for me
tight haven
at least 120 beans in there
midnight stirrup
inshallah sister nefarith will redecorate that shit like why is there so mucu un...
inshallah is crazy
smoky quarry
I can see the audience here
normal tangle
oh
midnight stirrup
drifting quest
more RI tacticool
normal tangle
eh she's fine
upbeat igloo
rossi, lr, gilberta, yvonne and ashdagir are the best designs for me
Lycia Best Girl
normal tangle
as long as she's not a 6* i can see it
midnight stirrup
Lycia looks bland af
tight haven
lycia im mixed on
midnight stirrup
I like her, but she isnt anything special
upbeat igloo
Lycia looks bland af
No you
gritty olive
Im just looking at the offtopic here and hopefully not partaking 
upbeat igloo
I like her, but she isnt anything special
She has the biggest cake so far
midnight stirrup
Shes like M3, doesnt have much detail
tight haven
what was the old
midnight stirrup
If Amiya ever releases, im going broke
upbeat igloo
Npc jail until anniversary
proud vector
Arknights one probably
normal tangle
ark of the night 🔥
proud vector
tight haven
ark of the night 🔥
chopped kaltsit:
proud vector
Idk I’m a fan of OG
smoky quarry
Amiya lowkey the best design AK ever dropped
I've seen things, batman himself woudn't be able to make me talk about them
smoky quarry
midnight stirrup
i doubt the mods care when they hand out bans again
gritty olive
idk, there isnt anything to tc on rn
no they wont
tight haven
tc: how do we make snowshine a dps
gritty olive
Dont get ahead of yourself
drifting quest
it would certainly be ironic for more help bans to come out after the discussion earlier
proud vector
tc: how do we make snowshine a dps
Unironically phys shatter
Endmin can COOK with free solidification
drifting quest
would kinda ruin the entire point of said discussion
upbeat igloo
Anyone seen the new Prydwen tier list?
gritty briar
tc xaihi dps
warm galleon
idk, there isnt anything to tc on rn
Have you tc which of the z7 members should be kicked on a 4man team?
drifting quest
oh boy
midnight stirrup
who cares about prydwen
drifting quest
i sure do hate tier lists
smoky quarry
i sure do hate tier lists
prydwen tierlist, double the cringe
midnight stirrup
imagine still following prydwen like a bible in big 2026
tight haven
Unironically phys shatter
Endmin can COOK with free solidification
no no
snowshine
not endmin
upbeat igloo
Did I stir the hornets nest?
gritty briar
Have you tc which of the z7 members should be kicked on a 4man team?
well it's either antal or catcher probably
proud vector
Did I stir the hornets nest?
More like salted a bloody battlefield
Anyways I don’t think Prydwen Tier list is super hyper terrible but people here disagree with it in some places
smoky quarry
Did I stir the hornets nest?
gang hates this one
drifting quest
honestly as bad as tier lists as at least the changes they made were better
gritty briar
i considered keeping antal at first but he really does not do that much in z7 team so i switched to catcher and booted antal
upbeat igloo
Real? I’ve met Ant before he seemed like a goood guy
midnight stirrup
but anyone with critical thinking knows that site is ass
gritty olive
Did I stir the hornets nest?
More like tierlists are bad
Since unit strength is a 3d based axis, not a 2d one
gritty olive
Theres actual strength + circumstances. Trying to “average” out circumstances can be deadly
upbeat igloo
But it’s a gacha game don’t we need a way to place unit so we know who to place our summon currency on?
drifting quest
no
smoky quarry
But it’s a gacha game don’t we need a way to place unit so we know who to place ...
It's hard to tell now
drifting quest
we have this wonderful thing called nuance
gritty olive
But it’s a gacha game don’t we need a way to place unit so we know who to place ...
For now meta isnt that relevant
drifting quest
and this wonderful thing gets entirely stripped away by tier lists
midnight stirrup
thats why u do research instead of looking at profile images of chars on a ranking
gritty olive
Unless youre a person who tryhards content, and currently theres nontryhard content atm
Unlike other gacha games im currently playing. Endfield is currently on its baby stage
If we introduce hard content right off the bat people will complain as to why the bar of entry is very high for completion
upbeat igloo
I see
drifting quest
If we introduce hard content right off the bat people will complain as to why th...
hsr 1.0:
tight haven
id kill for SU right about now
gritty olive
Ill shut up now im not gonna elaborate further
gritty olive
Maximum of 3 is my deal
proud vector
SU kinda fun I guess
midnight stirrup
it is
proud vector
It’s just not as repeatable
rose lantern
Crisis X or crisis simulation? Is one more profitable than the other, or are they the same?
tight haven
limbus company proved that you can have a doodoo dogshit game but as long as it has a roguelike mode its salvageable
proud vector
Tf
No the roguelike game is dogshit too it’s almost completely carried by story and hype moments
smoky quarry
limbus company proved that you can have a doodoo dogshit game but as long as it ...
Etchspace isn't roguelite, more like shitty extraction game
tight haven
Crisis X or crisis simulation? Is one more profitable than the other, or are the...
recrisis (120 sanity) should be run if you need the mats they guarantee
gritty briar
limbus company proved that you can have a doodoo dogshit game but as long as it ...
i really don't think i'd consider md the good part of that game
tight haven
if you need other mats play the crisis drill which gives them
tight haven
Etchspace isn't roguelite, more like shitty extraction game
yeah no its an extraction gamemode
midnight stirrup
etchspace has to be the most horrible content ive seen in a gacha
tight haven
like a really really barebones one
midnight stirrup
what were they thinking
midnight stirrup
it feels like a gamemode someone made in milliastra wonderland
tight haven
LOL true
smoky quarry
strongest asset flip in the history vs strongest asset flip of today
rose lantern
recrisis (120 sanity) should be run if you need the mats they guarantee
But aren't the rewards the same as for the one that costs 80?
midnight stirrup
everything about it feels ass
midnight stirrup
picking up loot, punished, where do i get the right loot, idk, maze, enemies, fall over.
midnight stirrup
it was meant for lvl 60
hows that my problem
they shouldve designed it better then
tight haven
But aren't the rewards the same as for the one that costs 80?
if i remember correctly they have a higher rate of dropping other random materials
gritty briar
i dont remember it being particularly fun at low level either
smoky quarry
hows that my problem
is it bad that enemies are easy though? Less headache, this mode isn't combat focused
gritty briar
the mode isnt fun focused either
gritty olive
Just expect arknights to be a slow burn
tight haven
yeah i think etchspace is just poorly conceived
gritty olive
CC was introduced on the fourth month
tight haven
i dont hate it but i wish there was mor meat on those bones
midnight stirrup
literally nobody wants to do etchspace even tho it rewards well
gritty olive
IS1 was introduced like after 13
midnight stirrup
that should tell u something
smoky quarry
literally nobody wants to do etchspace even tho it rewards well
1000 crystals is just a few minutes
tight haven
once i raised my laev past lv80
smoky quarry
from a full run you get 8k
midnight stirrup
everything started dying too quickly
whole game felt like that ngl
smoky quarry
idk why people won't do it, easily fastest reward on weekly routine
tight haven
tru
tight haven
idk why people won't do it, easily fastest reward on weekly routine
ig cuz you dont need to
midnight stirrup
everything feels like a chore now
tight haven
you just play normally and you get everything
teal pawn
Free standard
Finally a 6*
midnight stirrup
exploration etc
proud vector
gritty olive
Ok ccbeta was 6 months after
Fungi,ist was 15 months after
tight haven
> Free standard
> Finally a 6*
> <:leak:1434536363310448651>
BRICKED...
proud vector
Too much strength is a bad thing huh?
normal tangle
literally nobody wants to do etchspace even tho it rewards well
i am on god just not gonna do this 
gritty olive
So if you expect arknights to be a tryhard game, you need to wait a lil more
normal tangle
it sucks
tight haven
bro DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT
midnight stirrup
i am on god just not gonna do this <:copegers:1184026658018173038>
nah same
smoky quarry
i am on god just not gonna do this <:copegers:1184026658018173038>
you better finish it quickly
they might refresh it in 1.1
normal tangle
no bruh i don't want to
teal pawn
bro DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT
Rossi Ember teambuild trustge
tight haven
Wtf do I even do with her
enjoy the free 2000 arsenal tokens she graciously packed with her
normal tangle
this is not worth the 1.5 pulls
midnight stirrup
this is not worth the 1.5 pulls
literally
smoky quarry
this is not worth the 1.5 pulls
you are bad at doing math
midnight stirrup
what a waste of time
midnight stirrup
you are bad at doing math
hes exaggerating
proud vector
I think I farmed my out on the axe beast
tight haven
i am on god just not gonna do this <:copegers:1184026658018173038>
fwiw it does take legit
less than 1 hour
proud vector
You can kinda quickly zipline right to it
Nuke its ass
And bomb the stuff near it for a quick what 3k?
midnight stirrup
anyway
tight haven
like all of etchspace atm can be completed in less than an hour with laev/lr/phys
idk abt other teams
gritty briar
i did also complete it all in less than an hour but it isn't fun
gritty olive
like all of etchspace atm can be completed in less than an hour with laev/lr/phy...
Ill try that later then
midnight stirrup
im surprised they havent dropped full kits yet for the new chars
tight haven
it is not no
midnight stirrup
i rly wanna know how good t2 is
gritty olive
im surprised they havent dropped full kits yet for the new chars
Yeah arknights doesnt hand out full numbers until release
tight haven
maybe they revise it and it becomes pretty goated
gritty briar
they should add some rhodagns in there
tight haven
yea
midnight stirrup
kinda wild
tight haven
i like that ngl
gritty olive
Unless its like on a stream in arknights
gritty briar
just replace every enemy with rhodagn
tight haven
its kinda neat
midnight stirrup
i gotta get used to it
tight haven
it always kinda bummed me out watching ccs play with new stuff first
proud vector
Would double rhodagn even be hard?
tight haven
like great... but idc i wanna try it myself
proud vector
O that’s spicy
tight haven
double triagg would be fucking diabolical
gritty olive
it always kinda bummed me out watching ccs play with new stuff first
If were talking about early access, for reference hsr did it firsr wirh acheron
Way back 2.1
tight haven
If were talking about early access, for reference hsr did it firsr wirh acheron
oh yea i remember that
lol
ancient history atp
proud vector
Oh god imagine the matador stage conditionals but for Triag
drifting quest
preload tomorrow trust
midnight stirrup
i will say
tight haven
preload ideally should be tmr
drifting quest
we can manifest it
tight haven
then people can datamine
gritty olive
If youre gonna check for preload data, spoiler tag it btw
normal tangle
why preload tmr?
tight haven
and we can discuss it
gritty briar
it always kinda bummed me out watching ccs play with new stuff first
me watching the asian server get stuff 13 hours earlier than me in endfield
drifting quest
'week' before
proud vector
We probably aren’t going to get a preload
tight haven
me watching the asian server get stuff 13 hours earlier than me in endfield
yeah this stinks too
drifting quest
i dont think we will get a preload
and i think it will cause issues
and i think 1.2+ will then have preloads
midnight stirrup
im more worried about the maint pulls than the preload
proud vector
Lmao
gritty olive
proud vector
Apple will cause delays fr fr
gritty briar
why is there even regional differences for releases? game launched on the same day for everyone
proud vector
normal tangle
me watching the asian server get stuff 13 hours earlier than me in endfield
if you think about it, it's actually good
asia tests new banner chars while you still have the opportunity of pulling previous
proud vector
why is there even regional differences for releases? game launched on the same d...
Maybe it smooths time based events
gritty olive
me watching the asian server get stuff 13 hours earlier than me in endfield
Server releases are concurrent, but next phase banners will have delays based on timezome
drifting quest
why is there even regional differences for releases? game launched on the same d...
one server gets skewed content release times either super early or super late
gritty briar
13 hour clairvoyance...
proud vector
If they ever want to do those
normal tangle
or you could have like an asian alt account or something
drifting quest
and causes complaints
gritty olive
So we get 1.1 at the same time, asia gets rossi banner earlier, we get tt the same time
13 hour clairvoyance is better than no clairvoyance
drifting quest
its not even 13h clairvoyance
we get numbers on release
if anything via datamine
gritty olive
why is there even regional differences for releases? game launched on the same d...
Server difference due to latency ping i guess?
normal tangle
we get numbers but we don't get game feel
it's hard to quantize all the possible variables of how it feels to play in different scenarios
gritty olive
Especially in a game like endfield that needs to check what youre doing always for the actual game to actually do its thing
normal tangle
like gilb being good on paper for elec team but then she has grouping and that turns out to be insane for them
gritty olive
Especially in a game like endfield that needs to check what youre doing always f...
Unlike something like HSR and arknights where if you remove your connection, you can still “play” stages given gouve already entered them
But when yoj completed the stage you need a connection to send the data back to the servers
gritty briar
hmm
if asia started same time but gets their shit earlier, that means they actually get less time to prepare. I think they might have even gotten less dailies than NA cause their starting date is later
gritty olive
it's hard to quantize all the possible variables of how it *feels* to play in di...
Yeah since data doesnt mean we know reach, hyperarmor status, and what not of a unit
gritty olive
hmm
if asia started same time but gets their shit earlier, that means they actua...
No its the exact same
gritty olive
<:PerliWheeze:1171272662664892437> hyperarmor status
Yeah if only surtr ebs has it. Her ult ebs has hyperarmor but normal ebs doesnt
midnight stirrup
I rly wonder how good t2 aoe is gonna be
cause aoe is supposed to be gilb schtick
drifting quest
why is it supposed to be a gilb thing
humble matrix
hmm
if asia started same time but gets their shit earlier, that means they actua...
If the start time is the same, the income is the same. Difference is only in receiving new content a day early.
drifting quest
why not laevatein
why not lifeng
why not perlica
etc
gritty briar
If the start time is the same, the income is the same. Difference is only in rec...
they don't have the dailies from Jan 21 though right?
midnight stirrup
why not laevatein
why not lifeng
why not perlica
etc
You lost me at lifeng
gritty briar
pretty sure asia started on 22nd on their timezone
drifting quest
You lost me at lifeng
lifeng ult
midnight stirrup
It groups?
normal tangle
yes
midnight stirrup
Souka
humble matrix
they don't have the dailies from Jan 21 though right?
Daily resets are at the same time. So they would've had that day's daily, just like NA
midnight stirrup
But yeah all those units do things other than group
Gilb just groups and has vuln
humble matrix
The number of daily's would be identical
gritty briar
cause i think endfield launched after what their reset would be but before na's so they missed a daily that we didn't
drifting quest
gilb suscept is her main selling point
gritty briar
Daily resets are at the same time. So they would've had that day's daily, just l...
Are they? i thought their daily reset was also 13 hours off from us
midnight stirrup
If her susc is the only thing shes cooked after t2
gritty briar
if it's the same then nevermind
midnight stirrup
Well for cryo atleast
timid echo
is tangtang looking like she’ll only be good with yvonne so far?
midnight stirrup
is tangtang looking like she’ll only be good with yvonne so far?
No lr too
Maybe more but needs testing
humble matrix
Are they? i thought their daily reset was also 13 hours off from us
Idk. It doesn't really matter at what point the reset is, as long as it's the same day for them
lyric latch
gilb suscept is her main selling point
maybe for theorycrafters. pretty sure a lot people got her because of grouping.
drifting quest
is tangtang looking like she’ll only be good with yvonne so far?
moreso for yvonne but works for lr
might not be optimal for either
drifting quest
maybe for theorycrafters. pretty sure a lot people got her because of grouping.
what channel are we in
midnight stirrup
maybe for theorycrafters. pretty sure a lot people got her because of grouping.
Youre in #theorycrafting
gritty briar
Idk. It doesn't really matter at what point the reset is, as long as it's the sa...
well they'd lose a daily to prep for a banner leaving, cause the events come and go earlier for them
proud vector
You fool you’ve entered the domaiiiin
proud vector
Because TC is unserious a lot of the time
midnight stirrup
Not at fault of tcers
proud vector
lyric latch
lyric latch
they sure had
gritty olive
People had venti flashbacks probably
does gilb have a bery strong pullign force over vemti
idk if its comparable but i dont have both units so 
gritty olive
so its like sucroses?
gritty briar
i think venti had a crazier grouping ability than gil but that game just has more crazy shit in general
proud vector
^
gritty olive
or is it just theres heavier enemies, or no enemies lime slimes that are substantially lighter than the normal humanoid enemies
drifting quest
venti ult has wider range, more pull force, more common enemies with less weight in genshin, etc
gritty briar
idk it's kinda hard to say if there's a lot of relevant enemies that are too heavy to pull
just cause there aren't a lot of relevant enemies to begin with
gritty olive
Yeah its weird i havent seen anyone like “praise” gilbs grouping capabilities
Thats probably due to content not hard requiring a grouping ability to begin with rn
gritty briar
like i cant really comment on if hard content has unpullables because there isn't any hard content
it's nice for triag
gritty olive
Also btw can we trick enemy rng
warm galleon
venti ult has wider range, more pull force, more common enemies with less weight...
I do hope one day gilb gets armor set equivalent to anemo swirl set
smoky quarry
Yeah its weird i havent seen anyone like “praise” gilbs grouping capabilities
It does feels nice when combat skill doesn't causes unwanted art reactions
Can't use it cause of nature infliction
gritty olive
Also btw can we trick enemy rng
Into clumping like genshin? Like for the elemental lectors(pyro lectors) we can probably trick the other one into clumping to the nearer one. This might not happen in endfield due to extra members on the field
glass birch
it's also nice qol for alluviums
That's what towers are for though. Slow + gas + stun + aoe damage
gritty olive
It does feels nice when combat skill doesn't causes unwanted art reactions
Yeah genshin currently has those grouping capabilities on an element that doesnt ruin stuff, so theres some disconnect
edgy crater
or is it just theres heavier enemies, or no enemies lime slimes that are substan...
ange grouping like force 2?
while chen lift like force 1?
gritty briar
That's what towers are for though. Slow + gas + stun + aoe damage
yeah but pulling them together makes it a few seconds faster
gritty olive
ange grouping like force 2?
what im asking is why is the grouping capabilities disfavored. Im not talking about lift but rather the group up
gritty briar
idk i dont really use her bskill for much else really
midnight stirrup
<:thinkChamp:882365391073067018> does gilb have a bery strong pullign force over...
Id say its pretty much the same with negligible difference
proud vector
<:thinkChamp:882365391073067018> what im asking is why is the grouping capabilit...
No dps check endgame
midnight stirrup
Venti lifts enemies off the ground tho gilb doesnt
edgy crater
oh nvm, the grouping not dat urgently needed yet
gritty olive
Yeah we just need ccbeta rn 
gritty olive
oh nvm, the grouping not dat urgently needed yet
Might fall into a slipper slope of “therell be a better grouper later with heat infliction/forced combust/forcedcorrosion”
👀
edgy crater
dats rossie support for sure
gritty olive
And im waiting for that for my lupo 
warm galleon
Rossi support at 1.2, Rossi's 1.2 support support is on 1.3
lyric latch
She better not be powercrept by t2
then TT replaces LR
honest hill
Why the dps be replaced by a support/sub dps
midnight stirrup
then TT replaces LR
Ragebait used to be believable
edgy crater
tho after update, ange grouping gonna be more valuable
honest hill
tho after update, ange grouping gonna be more valuable
Yes gilberta more valuable good good
lyric latch
ult ready protocols is going to be so nice
edgy crater
well yeah
gritty briar
every farming run is just gonna be a couple ult animations long
midnight stirrup
Ngl it really feels with these gachas that they intentionally create these problems like not giving ult on entry domain etc to "qol" in a later patch for goodwill farming
Maybe it is the case and im slow to realise
normal tangle
this def happens but this doesn't seem like one of those cases
edgy crater
it is intentionally
proud vector
Idk if this one is intentional tbh
Maybe they didn’t expect people to just fight thr boss that often
next helm
Goodwill farming
People complain about no summon economy
After getting 200+ summons
Proceed as normal
People applaud you for listening
edgy crater
Idk if this one is intentional tbh
Maybe they didn’t expect people to just fight...
they expect it
as theres no dummy stage
proud vector
underestimated maybe
midnight stirrup
<:PerliDerp:1146342157825871873> underestimated maybe
You could convince me of that after Genshins release
Not after the multiple big releases they learned from making this game
With how gacha is setup, it wouldnt surprise me they manipulate players this way too
smoky quarry
Can we postpone 1.1 release till the end of the month? I need more time to get money for battlepass 😭
I got 20 largeboxes that wait to be opened
pure spoke
Tangtang when
gritty olive
wait for 7 days
pure spoke
potent hornet
gotta start stocking wuling bucks to unlock everything as it comes
glass birch
normal tangle
wait for 7 days
bro doesn't know?
chilly raft
what the hell i maxed it in 3 click
glass birch
Its just upgrades to existing structures like the depot and stock redis.
glass birch
what the hell i maxed it in 3 click
Congrats
chilly raft
i craft 20 of those
glass birch
<:PerliStareYou:1171270704310792332> i craft 20 of those
Use em on upgrading the int stat now?
chilly raft
yeah did
edgy crater
just hold smh
glass birch
just hold smh
Now watch the hot work gloves become obsolete with the 1.1 gear 
potent hornet
its the same level of gear just different stat spreads
edgy crater
nah, more like less optimized
potent hornet
i'm hoping for some int cryo gear
glass birch
Gimme agi crit gear from MI for rossi
edgy crater
no, str yinglung
normal tangle
bro said tingling
normal tangle
tingling is my fav gear set
edgy crater
why da heck my auto correct on it self
remote fern
Now watch the hot work gloves become obsolete with the 1.1 gear <:kekzu:80507116...
Until we get enemies that require more DPS to clear current built gear will probably be sufficient
signal sundial
Until we get enemies that require more DPS to clear current built gear will prob...
New gear isn't even a better tier tho so DPS likely won't change
dawn patrol
i mean it may change slightly if we get better off pieces or set pieces
signal sundial
Yea wouldn't be significant enough to warrant rebuilding the gear
gritty briar
i'm coping that it'll be pieces that fit some of the more neglected operators that have bad gear options
signal sundial
I think my avywenna has a glove that's like int substat and it's driving me crazy
Will/int/electric damage
remote fern
New gear isn't even a better tier tho so DPS likely won't change
im just buying and storing artifice materials for lvl 90 gear
gritty briar
the small group of dps fluorite players struggling with int gear on an agi character because they made her an agility caster
dawn patrol
level 90 gear won't be here any time soon
warm galleon
Having main stat on second line of gear is like 19% atk loss
remote fern
What makes you think it won't use a new artifice crystal
well it doesnt hurt, and i dont need to use them
dawn patrol
i just hope we'll get proper dps gear for rossi
warm galleon
Probably the red MI set
signal sundial
I never bother calculating or looking up but do you need artificed gear for trim
I did mine with like half artificed
warm galleon
Nope, not really
dawn patrol
you could do it with brand new gear lol
gritty briar
the small group of dps fluorite players struggling with int gear on an agi chara...
I went to check lamore's video just to see if he goes through the same struggles as me with gearing fluorite
yup
edgy crater
159 int
warm galleon
P5 tang gun will fix fluorite trust
edgy crater
dats so bad for her lol
proud vector
Tangtang existing will cause caster agi gear to exist
Truly TT will make Flourite stronger
peak void
cope
proud vector
Woah Tangtang is on end axis?
summer flicker
yes
proud vector
summer flicker
they write her cs as 13s cd
proud vector
CN bros working hard
summer flicker
you get a weaker sus at the front of the rotation
and max sus at the end
or you can be alesh and just ult bot like in iana rotation
proud vector
Your normal attack string is very cope
summer flicker
summer flicker
Your normal attack string is very cope <:PerliWheeze:1171272662664892437>
need all the sp possible
proud vector
Man non physical teams do NOT stagger fast huh?
summer flicker
you can see i
proud vector
summer flicker
stagger right at the end
if you want your ult in stagger, you want even longer rot or sth
😭
or rhan, you enjoy abit of your ult in stagger
peak void
is chen's weapon essence important to physical or can i just start building LR now
proud vector
She is the subdps
peak void
i mean isnt almost everyone here a subdps
peak void
i hate essence farming sm
summer flicker
i feel the team needs some more optimization
proud vector
i hate essence farming sm
Have you tried slapping down like 10 defensive towers
It’s peak I tell you
summer flicker
kinda want my tangtang to do some dmg, not just an ult bot kek
peak void
Have you tried slapping down like 10 defensive towers
try 23
what i hate abt it is how much sanity it needs
proud vector
O fair
peak void
compared to say, masteries
proud vector
Yeah fair
It’s just that Chen needs to build the least energy stuff to keep in line with rotation
Her damage share is pretty good
So it’s worth considering
peak void
wb lifeng valiant
potent hornet
any way to tell what day you started playing endfield?
elfin smelt
there should be something on your profile about your first joined date
boreal siren
i feel the team needs some more optimization
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normal tangle
her ult should be your damage window
applying susc afterwards is kind of pointless
boreal siren
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proud vector
The ultimate itself once dived should make whirlpools that susc
…but you’d have to use whirlpools before that to susc the ult damage I guess
compact bridge
Did we already got tangtang number?
unreal light
No
normal tangle
Did we already got tangtang number?
no but you could probably ask for her instagram
compact bridge
no but you could probably ask for her instagram
But i dont use instagram
hollow wyvern
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It's approx like 20 sec from vid
At least the triple pool one
summer flicker
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her ult apply it
her ult is the same as battle skill
ok the scuff thing about tangtang is
you have to chilvaric xaihi i think
if you follow iana rotation of 1 1 2
hollow wyvern
With gilb unless you extend rota deto won't work yeah
summer flicker
because you either ult tangtang first when there only 1 combo skill (aka lose a bit of sus) for det activation or you ult tangtang after xaihi combo for the sus but lose the det buff
😭
it so cooked
im still working on it but it isnt working so scrap that 😭
hollow wyvern
Tbh with all the things you gotta give up to slot in TT, replacing gilb might end up worth it
rare zodiac
that is Yvonne signature right?
boreal siren
her ult apply it
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rare zodiac
if no 1 dip i quit?
boreal siren
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teal pawn
Suddenly feeling like building DPS Ember at some point
Is Exemplar preferable or do I really gotta get Sundered
normal tangle
why tt ult so early
summer flicker
why tt ult so early
cuz the susc is only 15~16s
you want to get the tangtang cyro stack
😭
hollow wyvern
Dropping gilb should let us get another tt combo, run deto, and use the ult for cc and/or app since no reaction 
normal tangle
guh?
why not treat it like the gilb nature stack on ult
just let it set up next rot
summer flicker
its a 1 4 infliction 6 battle skill rotation
without ult, not enough energy
i mean you can slot in i guess xaihi battle skill
😭
normal tangle
this is why I got p1
normal tangle
p1 yvonne makes tangtang viable real?
summer flicker
why not treat it like the gilb nature stack on ult
ok
that was nice idea
we got a baby af corrosion
😭
wait, how do we plunge
i hate this
normal tangle
iirc there's a grace period between end of yvonne ult and being able to do the ult final strike
like ~2s
should double check that though
it's like a vague recollection not set in stone fact
boreal siren
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hollow wyvern
You would get a solidification
But that also means you don't require combo for it
I'm just gonna keep it simple
Alesh rota but using tt, no dive
Just for the cc
Or drop gilb for a non app support
summer flicker
you need to plunge for the 1 stack 😭
hollow wyvern
you need to plunge for the 1 stack 😭
Just get p1 
hollow wyvern
Or pray for ER MI piece
normal tangle
i assume the plunge is the same as yvonne a1
wait so we're ending time stop the moment we actually need it? 
rare zodiac
perlica stock keep increasing
hollow wyvern
Next limited cryo support trust
rare zodiac
art unit + electrification is just too good
summer flicker
ok, 😭 , i fix the sp by changing the order
but i want to optimize it a bit by having xaihi inflict cyro late to have det up for the ult
rare zodiac
60s for 1 ult and not loopable, lady and gentleman, Yvonne
this team is too sp hungry no?
rare zodiac
nature infliction of Gilb ult is kinda hard to utilize, you want to make corro but it's a ramp up debuff, and gilb only use ult when it's burst window, and unless hyper invested i don't thing you can ult gilb every 12s to make the corro stay at max shred
summer flicker
here it is the tiny plunge 😭
summer flicker
wym corrosion on ult
tangtang ult first, plunge, and then gilb ult later
summer flicker
tangtang buff is way longer than gilb ult
rare zodiac
no he dive mid Yvonne ult
summer flicker
you should tangtang ult first to buff the whole ult
summer flicker
wrongmsg rep
summer flicker
but then you lose the actual time stop
idc about that,
normal tangle
never let this guy tc again vro 💔 🎋
rare zodiac
if you don't pluge you get no infliction from soup2 ult
normal tangle
plunge at the end so you can actually make use of it
in the 2s grace period
the corrosion isn't doing anything anyway
summer flicker
1% is 1%
normal tangle
it also lets you gilb ult->dive tangtang ult for cryo -> free solidification to finish with
can save combo for ult charge later
rare zodiac
idk boss, it look kinda scuff, cause soup2 is there for the cc and we just end the cc before burst window
summer flicker
idk boss, it look kinda scuff, cause soup2 is there for the cc and we just end t...
im coping her buff is better than alesh
im not usng her for cc
normal tangle
bro has tangtang enjoyer in the name and uses none of tangtang's kit
rare zodiac
funny if she just have like 16 susc
normal tangle
it's over
summer flicker
dont worry, ima make a tangtang team later on
normal tangle
(he won't
maybe tangtang susc lasts so long you can just keep it during the whole rotation and won't need ult, who knows
gritty briar
i'm losing my mind
i keep making tiny changes to my rotation and now i keep fucking it up
normal tangle
hi losing my mind
gritty briar
been doing this for a week
normal tangle
that's like changing your mouse sensitivity every 3 hours
gritty briar
my ops are weak as shit so this is a long fight
i keep fucking up the first 40 seconds
rare zodiac
phys?
hollow wyvern
how much ER would gilb need if she never skills
rare zodiac
why would she need skill? all skill grant 6.5 to all char
gritty briar
i keep making tiny changes to my rotation and now i keep fucking it up
Okay technically I fucked up because I should've actually used Estella Ult immediately after Akekuri second combo so that her slowdown would overlap with the ult timestop, but whatever this is the closest i've gotten
One of the recent changes was me incorporating Catcher ult and swapping to Estella during his ult cause his animation is too fucking long and leaves me short a tiny bit of stagger bar
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1479325068201951313/253FF21.MP4?ex=69aba054&is=69aa4ed4&hm=f21da26a9089d071705c15d718bcadaf8050035dfbfc1e344a738cf37e558352&
rare zodiac
some with extra if stated
hollow wyvern
own skill usage doesn't give more energy or something?
rare zodiac
no
summer flicker
how much ER would gilb need if she never skills
i am too lazy to calc that
im cooking another rotation
hopefully be good
gritty briar
switching to estella and actually executing her animation cancel before switching back to catcher for the finisher feels fucking cool as hell though
hollow wyvern
anyone have a place where I can find all relevant info on ult energy gain
hasty grail
Think its just simply 10 for char when combo, and skill is 6.5 for team
lusty kernel
Avywena team ?
craggy pond
anyone have a place where I can find all relevant info on ult energy gain
well if you mean calculating break point, each of them has a different one so you have to do it manually
rare zodiac
it is just 6.5 on skill for all and 10 on combo for self, unless stated otherwise
hasty grail
Sp refunded lowers that skill portion
craggy pond
it's 6.5 per 100 sp
just to make it very clear
because sp return kinda messes it up
hasty grail
Yeah thats a better way to put it
rare zodiac
Sp refunded lowers that skill portion
sp refund lower the next skill portion
not the skill that refund
hasty grail
I meant a skill using refunded sp
normal tangle
waiting for a skill that refunds all 100 sp
rare zodiac
more like sp scam
hasty grail
If i didnt learn estellas refund talent I could run one less ult piece of gear lol
But too late
craggy pond
anyone have a place where I can find all relevant info on ult energy gain
anyway break point is also highly dependent on the rotation so it's a very arbitrary thing, the best thing you can do is to calculate on your own for whatever rotation you crafted up
gritty briar
I actually need estella's refund talent for that tiny bit of sp for my rotations
normal tangle
sp refund is a good thing idk what yall are talking about bruh
more skills cast, even if they don't give energy
craggy pond
by the way sp refund can really mess with your ult charge planning so don't think you got the sp for free
normal tangle
unless you're only casting skills to generate energy and absolutely nothing else
but most of the time they benefit you more than otherwise
gritty briar
more skills cast, even if they don't give energy
sometimes it can lead to weird ult breakpoints
normal tangle
that is a brain issue and not a game issue i think
gritty briar
if you had enough ult energy gain for exactly a certain amount of casts, you'd be short and need slightly more ult gain
craggy pond
more skills cast, even if they don't give energy
because it segments the ult energy return into 2 parts
which can really mess with the ult breakpoint
rare zodiac
look at this and tell me it's good
craggy pond
take wulfgard in a surtr team
you need 232% for a p0 surtr
and 241% (basically max) for a p1
if it was even slightly worse than that
wulf wouldn't have been able to hit the breakpoint at all
which completely ruins his rotation
normal tangle
look at this and tell me it's good
cro there is 0 sp return in that team
how did you end up here
rare zodiac
p1 Lae
gritty briar
laev pot
rare zodiac
i wish i can turn that shit off
craggy pond
you don't know how bad it really is until you experience it
summer flicker
😭 53s rotation 5bs 1 3 infliction
normal tangle
cooked
craggy pond
glass birch
cro there is 0 sp return in that team
👀 Theres Ake right there. Am I blind?
normal tangle
👀 Theres Ake right there. Am I blind?
the key word is return
craggy pond
it's factual that sp return both benefits you and cucks you
glass birch
the key word is return
... Ake is sp return and not refund isnt she?
craggy pond
... Ake is sp return and not refund isnt she?
she just generates sp
normal tangle
ake is recovery
craggy pond
sp return is a very specific thing
only available to some
NOT the same as sp recovery
glass birch
the key word is return
Ake isnt return
normal tangle
help me outta here
glass birch
If ake was return she wouldnt be able to use Frontier
glass birch
And return doesnt generate ult energy
hasty grail
normal tangle
why are you the one explaining it to me dude
YOU got it wrong 😭
what the fuck is this
rare zodiac
i think you guys are not on the same pages
hollow wyvern
i need p1 yvonne
dew it
hollow wyvern
ER piece might be enough though
glass birch
im so lost right now
hollow wyvern
but you lose raw dmg
rare zodiac
ER piece on Yvonne is so cope because she lack stat
craggy pond
or just straight up make it so you can't use the return portion until you accumulate 100
glass birch
Yeah my b I was lost
hasty grail
Just let us generate ult normally with returned, who's it hurting
rare zodiac
she is not Lae where she lost 70% dmg bonus and 100% BS dmg bonus and just " meh, it's fine"
hollow wyvern
ER piece on Yvonne is so cope because she lack stat
pray for ER MI body
that way you at least keep slab
gritty olive
she is not Lae where she lost 70% dmg bonus and 100% BS dmg bonus and just " meh...
you get dmg% from artzy so whats the catch
craggy pond
Just let us generate ult normally with returned, who's it hurting
well that's the easiest solution but we all know they ain't gonna do it
hollow wyvern
or run perl so you don't corrode, essentially extra app 
indigo pine
some food for thought prerelease tangtang tc that i worked on today!
basically using a placeholder (12% / 15% / 18% value for tangtang's susc, as we don't know how strong it actually is)
xaihi is permamently locked in one team slot, other two teammates are listed in the table
TLDR is: since gilberta is kinda mid for yvonne (her buff/debuff timing from stanza/ult only covers the latter half of her ult), replacing her with tangtang is relatively a smaller loss than all the other options
will make a video/detailed writeup for this in the coming days :3
normal tangle
Just let us generate ult normally with returned, who's it hurting
it's gonna hurt the character they'll release in ~2y that spams battle skills that give her 100 sp return under certain conditions
i say her because we know they're not giving a cool kit to a man
hasty grail
Idk ak had a dude as top meta for so long
signal sundial
Atp thorns is an honorary best girl
spark hollow
Horse unc
normal tangle
some food for thought **prerelease tangtang tc** that i worked on today!
basica...
what's the yvonne rotation on tangtang+perlica?
grand lagoon
SA probably
hasty grail
Silverash at the start for so long
signal sundial
Thorns and mountain lol
signal sundial
Then ulpianus now
craggy pond
the newbie carry
gritty olive
unless youre doing very very hard content you can probably crawl through with just one "good" wave clearer
boreal siren
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gritty olive
and silverash is still under that radar
rare zodiac
<:doro:1177966397582745680> you get dmg% from artzy so whats the catch
Lae sig just simply have more dmg% and her pot actually help with dmg% by reduce ult cost to have HW glove, Yvonne just have the worst p4 i have ever seen
gritty olive
anyways i wont be continuing this remark as i have a motto for offtopic "no more than three"
signal sundial
It's 2026 and I still don't have Ines or mylnar
open hare
Ball