#theorycrafting

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cinder oxide
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Lifeng has busted talents

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Let’s him us any stat as atk

odd wren
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True that

cinder oxide
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A built LF is not as strong as crusher but easily strong as Chen

odd wren
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Agreed

cinder oxide
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But as it is he’s maybe 50 to 60% chen dps

odd wren
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Whats exemplar essence?

cinder oxide
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Main atk suppression

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I rmb

odd wren
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Ok ima farm it later

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Whats the talent needed?

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Cs and bs?

terse valley
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lifeng?

cinder oxide
cinder oxide
odd wren
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I just realized

cinder oxide
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Lifeng is bs and maybe ult

odd wren
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His lifeng was using slab

cinder oxide
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Hmm

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Weird choice

odd wren
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3 xiranite + slab

cinder oxide
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More dps but weird choice

odd wren
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Hahahaha

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His endmin is full swordmancer

cinder oxide
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I might try out slab on the current build too

cinder oxide
odd wren
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But 3 pcs is enough?

cinder oxide
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Personal choice I suppose

odd wren
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I guess

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Welp tbh i can max out my dapan now

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Maybe later

cinder oxide
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Enjoy that

jagged stump
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im so lost on how to take advantage of this, aint no way i maintain ts from combo alone
do i really need to use other arts infliction so i can pop electrification again to prolong the buff through skill or what

somehow i can manage to gain enough time to nuke with her finisher but only when enemies become so aggressive because of the dodge slowmo, but thats so stupidly inconsistent, forget about her long ass animation when doing finisher
(for context i use perlica dps so this matters a lot)

cinder oxide
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Da Pan farms essence at og sci park

jagged stump
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i lost like 200-300k dmg from missing out this buff

cinder oxide
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Don’t even need to be gil but the ult ring is good for it

terse valley
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gilbert ult just before stagger

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whats ur dps perlica set

jagged stump
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full crit with slab

terse valley
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awesome

jagged stump
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ended up with 7k atk, 4.4k at base

terse valley
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there's this funny combo you can do with gilberta+endmin combo lol

jagged stump
cinder oxide
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Doesn’t the timer pause during freezes from ult and dodging? Feels like you should make it

jagged stump
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unless

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perlica finisher is a snapshot

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cant find anywhere with perlica guide or rotation so i just made it up

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i mean the proper one

terse valley
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is she using deto?

jagged stump
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oblivion

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i dont use her as support

terse valley
jagged stump
cinder oxide
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Can’t wait for a main dps caster so I can actually use Obli

jagged stump
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the thing is obli made perlica to use her ult for buffing instead of nuking 😭

dawn patrol
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i need thermite to be in the shop yesterday omfg

jagged stump
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i believe i can one shot rhodagn if i somehow can make a good use of her pot3

cinder oxide
terse valley
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not a guide but showcase

dawn patrol
cinder oxide
dawn patrol
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idec man that's my goat right there

jagged stump
terse valley
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yeah I'm also wondering about the team choices PerliDerp

jagged stump
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ikr

terse valley
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ig there's no need to be dodging if u can do counters 🤷‍♂️

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they also mentioned about that perlica team abit in the gilberta guide

jagged stump
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the only 1 i found it was from a korean short

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hold ip

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lemme find it

terse valley
jagged stump
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yeah but he still didnt take advantage of the 2 stacks of p3 buff, only once

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probably p5 oblivion

terse valley
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also looks like a p5 arclight since he only use her ebs twice

jagged stump
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im also p5 everyone, diff rotations, but i believe the buff debuff still the same i only did 800k at best

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so it must be p5 obli

terse valley
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man i really want my p5 arclight PerliDerp

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I've only done 60 limited pulls total since launch PerliWheeze

ocean hawk
jagged stump
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here i am pulled everyone with their sign just to benched and play perlica alone

ocean hawk
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since I always got arclight even tho its already p5

terse valley
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i... don't remember, why?

jagged stump
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that fuckin yvone shorts baited me so hard with literal "ass"

terse valley
ocean hawk
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if only this game can trade operator.....

/j

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my dapan stuck at p4

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and the game keep giving me arclight

terse valley
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gonna pull on rossi and hope i get more 5* dupes

jagged stump
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ive got everyone p5 beside a damn xaihi at p3 😭

potent hornet
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p4 for my xaihi, don't have the aic coins to grab her either

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she shifted over in the shop just after i cracked to spend em

hallow locust
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is eminent repute worth to get if its 2480 arsenal tix?

timber harness
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Prydwen still doing damage i see

tough nest
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is it worth getting det unit from the box if i already have chalvairic for xaihi?

cinder oxide
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Very nice. CO Chen might be faster though imo

gritty briar
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lmao the bonk

soft tendon
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is it exactly 241% ult gain for wulf or is it just rounded up or something

cinder oxide
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Control Chen cos her skills come out fast and you don’t need to wait out Pog skills.

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And also her sp generation is faster per unit time than pog

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Dash cancel Chen FS to save time

faint fiber
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They really need to fix the fucking range system on skills, you get knocked back and then the boss does the redring skill and YOUR PARTY IS IN RANGE but not you. Gee thanks. And ofcourse the boss has no fucking problem closing the entire map and attacking with a melee-special but I'm forced to run back like a tool to get in range

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"haha gitgud" ffs Sekiro wasn't this frustrating for me because shit was fair, this feels like ass at times. Stopt using Pog just because his skills are also red and there's so much shit at times 😄

cinder oxide
faint fiber
cinder oxide
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How tf u flying that far using LR

faint fiber
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You tell me

cinder oxide
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Bros LR is more aerodynamic than ours

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Rip maybe u can stall out the combo skill a lil to spam dodge?

signal palm
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nvm it was just skill issue

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i butchered one dodge but still cleared 3 seconds faster lol

signal palm
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maybe more once i practice and upgrade some more

cinder oxide
signal palm
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sadly if I dodge less there isn't enough sp to have dapan use bs > cs before physical sus expires on stage 1, and also for clicking pog bs > lifeng bs after lifeng's ultimate and another dapan bs right after his ultimate

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this rotation is very specific to rhodagn and works around the sp you can gain from dodging all of his attacks

river scroll
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guys tell me Rossi ahh team

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what her best team

half cosmos
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anyone know the rotation order with Tangtang in LR’s new team + who gets replaced?

warm galleon
river scroll
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but tbh we need to see her susceptibility number first. if it low, she aren't replacing anyone

half cosmos
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So LR Xaihi Tangtang Perlica?

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i’m guessing we just gotta know what TT’s cooldowns are

river scroll
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i say we need to look at the number first

unreal light
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and on the sp management

half cosmos
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i see, thanks FireflyAprob

bronze plume
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right now we just have

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potential team mates that can make teams

river scroll
proud vector
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:p Rossi Endmin Akekuri is rotational sound

bronze plume
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at that point just make a laev team

river scroll
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but i want Rossi team

bronze plume
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then dont use laev

river scroll
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people can use LR for Yvonne

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why can't people do same with Laev

bronze plume
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yeah and that isnt a good idea

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i mean you can

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but its not a good idea

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they both activly conflict with each other kit wise with yvonne and last rite

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its the same wit rossi and laev

proud vector
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*in theory

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We do not know yet the interaction between stealing inflictions between seq1 and seq2 of Rossi CS

river scroll
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Rossi don't consume anything tbh

bronze plume
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i dont think taking away parts of someones kit will be helpful

river scroll
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she only need those to trigger her cs

proud vector
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PerliDerp Bweeeh, wrong

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CS seq2 consumes inflictions on target

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Back to the dev log video with you

bronze plume
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youre basically slotting in laev for her dmg to take away part of rossis kit

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granted if that is someone the best way to play her i wouldnt be surprised

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because the majority of the dmg would probably just be laev

proud vector
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PerliDerp Rossi be high maintenance princess

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Her kit don’t work unless you have infliction, vuln, spend SP on her battle skill

bronze plume
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just suffering from not good characters who synergize wit her

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she needs so much

river scroll
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nah trust meh. Rossi ult have 9000% multipler PerliFumo

proud vector
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PerlicaNOW needy little teensie weensie princess

bronze plume
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but theres very few characters hwo can do more then 1

proud vector
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Eh

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The kit still works but probably does less damage

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Without the others she literally doesn’t work so

bronze plume
proud vector
river scroll
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she probably want those combustion

proud vector
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Yeah probably

bronze plume
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we love ult bot wulfgard

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no skill usage for you wulfgard only combo and ults

proud vector
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PerliDerp some sort of stoopid Endmin Rossi Wulfguard Akekuri team

honest hill
bronze plume
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the only thing that can truly save her

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is better units for her team

proud vector
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Snowshine

bronze plume
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unless her numbers are just stupid overtuned to be comp with what we got

bronze plume
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vanguard wulfgard

river scroll
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Rossi, Akekuri, Gilberta, Wulfgard

for max DPS trust PerliFumo

proud vector
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Hear me out

70sp cyro infliction to nom and protect her during long animations

Free solidify for endmin to crush for massive bonus damage

Cyro type for manual combustions if needed with Wulfguard combo

It’s perfecto

bronze plume
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make wolf force apply combustions, while still applying heat inflicts and having sp gen

river scroll
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we need a buffer that actually eat vuln

proud vector
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Poggers

bronze plume
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i wanna know what was cooking in the brain of the people who made rossis kit

proud vector
bronze plume
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surely they know something we dont

proud vector
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“We need to make her work with endmin!”
“We need to make her work with Wulfguard!”

“.:.fuck how do we do that?!”

river scroll
bronze plume
bronze plume
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whales will always whale

river scroll
bronze plume
proud vector
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My personal opinion is that she is pretty much fine

compact bridge
proud vector
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She has excellent role compression all things considered

river scroll
bronze plume
bronze plume
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back in my day people said

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ardelia is way better gilberta wont be that useful

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little did we know we had a dodge button

ashen scroll
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Didnt we use ardelia for her long duration debuff not her heal

proud vector
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Then we realised 1sp is fckin expeeeensive

bronze plume
icy remnant
bronze plume
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i mean thats obviously it

icy remnant
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The first one is always going to be the hardest to receive

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And then they compound with each other

bronze plume
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its just funny shes out by herself

icy remnant
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I mean they can't release like 5 at a go

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Lol

proud vector
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PerliStare this is some top notch copium

bronze plume
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well no but they could easily realease a 5 star or god forbid a 4 star that works well wit it

proud vector
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No… this grade and quality makes it hopium

icy remnant
bronze plume
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thats not... sigh

proud vector
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PerliFumo remember, chasing a fun gameplay loop is better than chasing for pure power

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If you ain’t gonna have fun piloting then don’t buy the plane

icy remnant
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She had alot of fun built into her kit like the combo timing

summer flicker
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just thorny yazhen

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xdd

proud vector
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Thorny? I’m just using the regular stuff lol

summer flicker
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or yazhen spray S

summer flicker
icy remnant
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I have enough thorny yazhen to feed qingbo stockade till next year

bronze plume
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my healing is just whatever the wuling one is

signal sundial
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The floofy stuff gives %hp regen

summer flicker
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5% + 300 hp per sec iirc

signal sundial
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But you really don't need it

summer flicker
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floof jingcao is good too if you want single instance of haeling instead

icy remnant
bronze plume
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honestly the healing in that dumbahh meme is good enuf for now

icy remnant
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It used to at least save you time by just not bothering to heal

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Now with new QoL healing items are kinda pointless

signal sundial
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Tbh I attempt protocol spaces right by the tp points just for healing

icy remnant
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You still need to exit and click rest

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And not restart

signal sundial
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Oh yeah that's true

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But that's only for when I do boss trims ig

icy remnant
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So yea the QoL made healing items useless xd

summer flicker
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just insta kill the domain

signal sundial
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Regular sanity runs I literally do not heal

summer flicker
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ye regular sanity is like dead very fast

icy remnant
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They need to introduce a new level for the domains

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It's still at lvl60 recommended

summer flicker
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or lvl 80 PerliDerp

icy remnant
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The T credits is 60 I think

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The most important one

bronze plume
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all normal ones are 60

summer flicker
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i never do the tcred

bronze plume
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thats a deep dive so

icy remnant
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Ain't no way

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I need so much T credits it's driving me nuts

chilly bolt
icy remnant
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The most important one

chilly bolt
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Efficiency wise it's not good

icy remnant
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Efficiency compared to?

summer flicker
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time to level up my tcred farm

bronze plume
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my spongebob :(

summer flicker
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since i nly have 300k rn

chilly bolt
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There should be a table somewhere

icy remnant
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How are you calculating sanity value if we only get T credits there

bronze plume
icy remnant
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Unless you mean compared to swiping and just buying T credits

potent hornet
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someone assigned sanity values to every mat and part in the game

summer flicker
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need new lvl of tcred 😭

icy remnant
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You can't just calculate sanity value of a dungeon that is the only place to farm a material

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You need to compare it to another source

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And that other source is?

potent hornet
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they do

edgy crater
potent hornet
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protohedrons, proto sets, dies, gold mats

icy remnant
potent hornet
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they gave all of them sanity values

icy remnant
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So if the dungeon gives 34k credits and cost 80 stamina
Sanity value = credits per stamina
You can't just say it's better or worse than other sources of T credits cus there's none

potent hornet
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the values make sense once you read the essay, but i'm in the camp of i keep running out of credits so i run credits

icy remnant
potent hornet
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again, find the post and read the essay before knocking it

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its a fairly valid way to assign the points

icy remnant
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If you want to make a point you'll need to link it otherwise the conversation can end here and that's fine

dawn patrol
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hello chat

bronze plume
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hello eva

dawn patrol
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are you going to pull on tt or rossi beef

bronze plume
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maybe rossi

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depending on numbers and what 1.2 reveals

bronze plume
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i dont care for anything cryo

icy remnant
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I'm fulling expecting 2 more units to be revealed that will complete Gilberta+ Rossi+ 2 more in the future

dawn patrol
bronze plume
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the question is when will we get them

icy remnant
# chilly bolt

Aight yea
It's comparing to straight up buying T credits PerliDerp

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Expected

ashen scroll
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Log in now and collect your total TWO basic HH permit and 500 oro ini 3 days login ! , ffff might aswell just give me more crown PerliWaaaaa

bronze plume
dawn patrol
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i hope we get a 5* support bc if we keep getting 6*s in a row i'm going to be hella fatigued

icy remnant
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I mean I guess if Ur a whale

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You can just buy T credits

bronze plume
icy remnant
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Time to release Myrtle

bronze plume
icy remnant
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If they release Myrtle in this game she would single handedly create a new negative tier by herself beyond tier 0

dawn patrol
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idec if they're not a rossi support or whateva i just hope we get more 5*s

proud vector
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Almost every support will be a Rossi support tbf

dawn patrol
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it's only been 3 banners and 6* fatigue is already setting in for me icl

proud vector
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It’s hard to not support phys OR arts OR vuln OR gives any infliction

chilly bolt
dawn patrol
proud vector
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P5 Endmin will be her best support

bronze plume
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got me tripping if you think im leveling endmin

proud vector
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P3 is “if have Rossi orbital strike the enemy”

bronze plume
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do we think

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endmin will get the new element treatment

proud vector
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….. possibly

icy remnant
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Maybe Aether element

proud vector
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There is a reason why grand vision works with solidification imo

icy remnant
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I don't think they will get the normal elements

ashen scroll
ashen scroll
bronze plume
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is he even sword

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why isnt he fishing rod bro

proud vector
dawn patrol
proud vector
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But he do be a horrible user of it I guess

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PerliStareYou we’re heading up north after Wuling

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The North is cold

bronze plume
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are we?

proud vector
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Cyro augment Endmin

bronze plume
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where tf is the desert?

proud vector
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It’s possible… it’s the only other big trouble plot point

bronze plume
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true

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weve had the north actually mentioned a decent amount

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the north... pole

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creativity pro max

dawn patrol
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can't wait for the classic fromsoft swamp too

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and it poisons you

bronze plume
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call that shit the scarlet forest

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the way i be avoiding it

proud vector
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RossiCopium oh my god we have to drain the swamp of poisonous water because factory go go

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Lmfaoooaaiaioaiooo

ashen scroll
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And the only way avoiding it to float with gilberta dash

bronze plume
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how much water is to much water for a area in wuling

ashen scroll
bronze plume
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me when i cant swim

proud vector
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Me when I slip on banana peel and fall off pier dooming me to death

bronze plume
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i wonder

proud vector
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Me when I drown by standing in shoulder deep water too long

bronze plume
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when lycia will come back into the plot

proud vector
bronze plume
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like wtf is the promise

proud vector
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Ah that’s part of the 40 plot line

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PerliFumo the actually interesting plot

bronze plume
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plot line number 40

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in 3.5

ashen scroll
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I mean with all the baggy clothing and techwear , u probably die drowning or electrocuted if u feel into water

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Wait which one is lycia

dawn patrol
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talulah looking headass

proud vector
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PerliDerp pengmin’s feathers clothing is oily insulated so it is waterproof in theory

ashen scroll
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She going to be fire vanguard trust

proud vector
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RossiCopium Alesh drowning is a sick joke

ashen scroll
bronze plume
proud vector
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Alesh is much faster and can freeze his opponents the water

ashen scroll
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I like the theory about alesh "fishing club" tho

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The one related to ægir baddie

dawn patrol
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alesh should've been a crit support

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bc fishing

proud vector
bronze plume
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bum bum tsst

proud vector
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I want a quinque

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Mahjong character

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PerliWheeze Let me gamble during combat and if I hit royal flush I explode boss

bronze plume
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i want

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ardelia the hvit aska

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give me 3 more ardelias so i can have a full ardelia team

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call her

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sparxie

dawn patrol
ashen scroll
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Ardelia will hit you with obsidian chunk to wake up

dawn patrol
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would be really funny if they made a caster ard

proud vector
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Full pyro

bronze plume
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so funny so true

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do it

proud vector
bronze plume
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no make her nature so we have a fucking nature dps

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anything besides physical bro ill take but give me a nature dps

proud vector
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That doesn’t matter

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Sentenced to physical heat hybrid

bronze plume
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yes it does matter

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physical finna have more ops then all others ombined at this point

proud vector
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TangtangSigh it is like 1/3 of the elements in the game

bronze plume
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every new op from now is a phys/x hybrid

proud vector
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And 1/3 of that is aether damage

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Which doesn’t have operators

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So it’s like half the damage types are phys tbf

bronze plume
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lets do

ashen scroll
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Ngl rossi should be aether , look at her blight looking auras

bronze plume
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tbf adding a new element this early would just be

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weird

proud vector
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I’m expecting anniv if any

bronze plume
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also isnt aether just true dmg

proud vector
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But given how physical works just fine

bronze plume
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or is it actually like its own thing

proud vector
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I think it will be fine

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Eh

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Aether resistance exists doesn’t it as a stat?

bronze plume
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i dont think ive seen it on enemy files

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maybe on ours

proud vector
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Along with the others

bronze plume
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cuz enemies do aether dmg

ashen scroll
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I think ut was datamined

bronze plume
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its the purple dmg

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the plurple if you will

proud vector
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I think it would need a big update before they make aether operator

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But in theory? Doable

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It’ll have its own set of somewhat similar mechs like physical

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Not too bad

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And then we can have a arts/phys/aether hybrid

ashen scroll
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They probably going to make mephisto(ardashir) playable

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To rob woman and their gay bestfriend them wallets

proud vector
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Yeah the bad guys are being set up to be somewhat sympathetic once we figure out what the backstory is for reals

ashen scroll
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I mean looking at aetherite and originium works wayy to similiar

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And the fact past endmind have history with them

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Obivious story pathing

civic wolf
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wait so Xaihi's mainstat is Will, but her ult scales off intellect...

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what

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does this mean that Detonation's main attack boost or whatever wont improve this

proud vector
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Mhm

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But detonation units secondary attribute increase will boost int

edgy crater
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detonation unit give 2nd attribute

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her 2nd attribute being int

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so detonation give int to xaihi

outer ermine
warm galleon
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Hifumi should have 1.2k int Xaihi by now right?
Right?

outer ermine
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havent been artificing PerliFumo just ard hotworks ig

warm galleon
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Slacker
SLACKER

outer ermine
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still waiting for that 135k from her PerliWaaaaa

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didnt even grind yesterday lol

warm galleon
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I got baited, got yvon on last 2 free pull, did 80 pulls and got three 6stars but none of them is yvon.

outer ermine
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id give u yvonne if i could

warm galleon
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I'm just hoping I lost 5050 on tang or rossi banner to yvon

outer ermine
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going for pots? PerliStareYou

warm galleon
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May be not but dependa on their pot

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Also hoping my gaming tablet gets delivered by the weekend.

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Unless you know they fix the memory leak

outer ermine
warm galleon
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My phone can run the game on max+60fps but you know I'm hoping for it to last 2-3 more years

civic wolf
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will tangtang replace alesh in Yvonne BiS or not really because Sp regen?

warm galleon
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I actually never cared about his sp gen

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P3+sword buff is all his worth tbh

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Which is why perlica is usable if he's not p3 and no thermite.

outer ermine
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how well does tablet play in ef anyway, PerliDerp ba snapping/dropping after ult is what i hate in mobile rn

warm galleon
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Ohh I'm using controllers

outer ermine
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PerliStareYou lucky

warm galleon
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I bought the y700 + g9 combo which is arriving soon

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I have g8+ controller atm for my phone

edgy crater
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depend on which tablet

warm galleon
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Don't buy legion go btw

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It's 1600p but you'll be playing at 800p PerliWheeze

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This is for endfield at max

outer ermine
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ICANT watching a vid and the wuwa showcase is rough

warm galleon
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Yah y700 wuwa showcase is great which is why I picked that plus the g9 combo

outer ermine
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PerliOK looks nice

warm galleon
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It's also as big as my legion go but you know better graphics PerliWheeze

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Anyway I recommend controllers like you hold L1 to load/pick skill and auto attack is not interrupted.

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Mobile controls kind of ehh on that part.

edgy crater
#

ah yeah, dat exclusive glitch

warm galleon
#

It's an option you have to turn on

edgy crater
#

intended glitch then

warm galleon
outer ermine
#

someday ICANT i dont wanna bring laptop to work, shit sounds like a jet engine

edgy crater
#

rog asus in nutshell

dawn patrol
#

gaming laptop moment

warm galleon
#

Heh legion go don't make noise, it just slow down to 1fps PerliFumo

odd wren
#

Honor Win RT is your best bet xd

icy remnant
#

Want Tang to come already so I can cook w Last Rite Xaihi Tang and Akekuri PerliStare

unique valley
#

so I assume Rossi's gonna replace Chen in this Team Comp

icy remnant
#

Rossi needs another element to proc their combo skill to apply Vuln

#

It’s a hybrid team unit not a Phys team unit

unique valley
#

oh right I forgot that's her Combo trigger

#

still a bit odd that she's a DPS but she applies Vuln stacks instead of consuming them

warm galleon
#

Most dps are striker

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She can probably be dps kind of like how dps endmin works

icy remnant
#

Sub dps to bridge elements is also viable

wheat agate
#

not like idk how to play perlica, i could swap to antal and that would easily go beyond 1m+ with a P0 oblivion 🥀

flat agate
#

anyone here playing endfield on steamdeck

warm galleon
#

I would avoid discussing that on official server

wheat agate
terse valley
#

im curious though, ik snowshine is there for comfort and cheap infliction right? what about endmin are they just there for crystal atk% buff?

wheat agate
#

atk% buff and stagger

terse valley
#

stagger from crush with swordmancer?

#

wait lemem rewatch it

wheat agate
#

its mostly just the ult, to begin with, the purpose is to show that people could just replace endmin easily 🥀

terse valley
#

ah i see

wheat agate
#

endmin's buff is also reliable outside of just bossing

#

since debuff type operators can't just constantly apply their debuffs on waves of enemies do they

#

its a comfy team so its super weird to compare it to a team that bursts rhodagn but runs out of gas afterwards

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like, try that perlica team + antal + arc + gil on other bosses

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goodluck lol

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last thing, its super super super weird to compare my P0 oblivion perlica to someone else's P5 oblivion perlica 🥀

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based on my calcs, there's an overall 22%ish difference

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for perspective, if i hit 1m, the p5 oblivion perlica would hit for 1.22m

boreal siren
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wheat agate
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hitting me with the harsh reality sadge

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its technically a showcase of perlica+gilberta only since snowshine+endmin barely did stuff and yet, people conclude i was setting up some super duper min-maxed burst damage of giga hell

boreal siren
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wheat agate
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🥀

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would be nice if comparisons are fair

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but that only happens in a perfect world

boreal siren
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terse valley
#

dmg jail 😭

wheat agate
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also comparisons like yvonne vs last rite, an actual crit dps vs a crit fisher 🥀

boreal siren
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plucky warren
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They will in a week

boreal siren
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warm galleon
#

I want rossi more so I'll wait for other to do tang vids, then if it's good I'll do 120 pulls and hope for a yvon dupe on 5050 PerliWheeze

wheat agate
#

cryo enjoyers winning with tangtang

boreal siren
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wheat agate
#

meanwhile rossi, heat+physical, can apply vuln, has a bit of sustain, where did i hear that before ... ah yes, ember's kit, already powercrept 🥀

terse valley
#

btw chat ive been wondering about this buff does it scale off of the wielder ATK for the team?

#

same thing with endmin p2

terse valley
#

oh so the atk calculated individually

dawn patrol
#

or no it could go either way

#

i'm just feelscrafting man

terse valley
willow oxide
#

which should be better to pull yvonne's sig wep or tangtang's?

chilly bolt
#

Would be weird if it gives other people the wielder's atk

drifting quest
hollow wyvern
#

From vid we can assume tt sig gives her cryo amp on cryo app (only herself)

hollow wyvern
#

So prob depends on her personal dmg, her wep likely no team support

terse valley
dry kindle
#

dont have

terse valley
#

🧍‍♂️

dawn patrol
#

wait isn't that kinda not bad

#

actually

dry kindle
#

youre replacing chen wep so

terse valley
#

how much is thermite buffing the team

#

wait lemme check

dawn patrol
#

8% per stack at p0

dry kindle
#

oh rossi

unreal light
drifting quest
#

E.g. 1 stack =
12% to wielder
6% to everyone else

dawn patrol
#

hello shuo glad to see you haven't been beaned

terse valley
#

PerliDerp so it calculates the atk of each individual operator

drifting quest
#

A shock, truly

terse valley
#

thats boring

plucky warren
#

It's an "atk +6%" boost, not a "+(6% of wielders attack)" boost

drifting quest
#

Maybe today

unreal light
dawn patrol
#

i hate that thermite is on tangtang banner actually

#

it pisses me off

terse valley
#

so thermite is 16% and eminent is 12% at 4vul consumed

drifting quest
#

Oh 1.1 info?

terse valley
#

what where

rare zodiac
#

where?

tranquil cedar
rare zodiac
#

we are literally staving for numbers

unreal light
edgy crater
drifting quest
#

Link

molten star
#

Is eminet repute good for physical teams

edgy crater
#

its fb official, theres should be on x too

drifting quest
terse valley
edgy crater
#

but only the list, not the effect

terse valley
#

two sword user that consumes vul but they both has better alternatives

drifting quest
#

None of the bots that repost twitter have it

terse valley
#

iont think eminent outperforms grand vision for endmin

molten star
#

Can you put therrmite on chen and repute on pog

terse valley
#

what 😭

rare zodiac
terse valley
#

how do chen gain sp/gives link?

plucky warren
#

^ you can't activate thermite on chen

rare zodiac
#

with hope and prayer?

terse valley
#

folk 😭

edgy crater
#

only this one

#

but u should already seen it

molten star
#

Finisher sp regen doesn't trigger the eefect?

plucky warren
#

After the wielder's skill recovers SP

drifting quest
#

Lmao what are these banners

plucky warren
#

Finish Strike isn't a skill

drifting quest
#

Chiv wedge again

hollow wyvern
#

Post pls

dawn patrol
#

why is it all garbage except for det unit

edgy crater
#

Rossi sig banner really shit

drifting quest
#

They both kinda suck

edgy crater
#

meanwhile tang2 only clannibal being mid

dawn patrol
#

tt banner has jet and thermite wdym

drifting quest
#

Sundered
Chiv (arguably)
Jet

#

Are all mid

hollow wyvern
#

Oh it's in smol gray text

terse valley
#

cant wait pulling rossi weapon only to get 5 former finery 🔥

hollow wyvern
#

Didn't see it

drifting quest
#

Wedge too

dawn patrol
#

at least tt has thermite

drifting quest
#

Thermite is the only generic good hit

edgy crater
#

compare too rossie, tang2 better yEP

molten star
#

How's the tang tang weapon banner looking like?

drifting quest
#

The rest are situationally good, mid or bad

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo just p5 chiv

dawn patrol
#

i don't fucking need det unit just put the thermite in the bag man

drifting quest
#

Like rossi and tt banners are basically equally mid, if not slight tt bias

terse valley
drifting quest
#

But i guess wedge is a permanent fixture on banners

dawn patrol
#

atp i might as well wait for thermite to be in shop

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bc god knows it's not gonna be on any banner i want to pull on

drifting quest
#

6/8 chance thermite is shop in 1.1

molten star
drifting quest
#

Maybe guaranteed if we exclude wedge now for being on 5/5 banners

dawn patrol
#

how am i supposed to get p5 thermite when this is the kinda banners we get 💔

edgy crater
#

pull on starry banner

dawn patrol
#

fuck no

edgy crater
dawn patrol
#

maybe if i had a million dollars

#

it's actually kinda worth since potting dreams isn't even bad i just can't justify it fr

edgy crater
outer ermine
#

wish i didnt pull on starry PerliWaaaaa

rare zodiac
#

imagine pulling for thermite and then a limited vanguard out that have sig wep that completely outclass thermite in general

outer ermine
#

could have been starry funds PerliWaaaaa

edgy crater
#

damn 70 steering wheel

terse valley
#

isnt that the one from max put dupe

edgy crater
#

yeah

terse valley
#

gah damn

edgy crater
#

the steering wheel PerliWheeze

terse valley
outer ermine
#

todays my day i think hnaf PerliFumo i will crit both lr and ard today

edgy crater
#

pray to rng god

warm galleon
#

Would be funny if white nova is an alternate build bis for rossi PerliWheeze

#

Ohh wait does she do combustion?

dawn patrol
#

no

terse valley
#

not herself directly but she benefits from it

#

as to how much God knows

warm galleon
#

Guess she can't use the sword then PerliDerp

terse valley
#

what is rossi's bs and cs vul? it's lifted right?

edgy crater
#

ain't those claw thing?

warm galleon
terse valley
#

...do we even know her main/sub stats yet PerliDerp

chilly bolt
#

Agi is main

warm galleon
#

Sword so mostly likely agi and may be int cause art like laev.

terse valley
#

yknow it would be really funny

warm galleon
#

She's physical with art so may be art damage build focus on int

terse valley
#

although idk if thats even better than sundeel

bronze plume
#

her ult is heat dmg

terse valley
#

yeah but it gets the dmg bonus on staggered

outer ermine
#

ICANT we're just getting a small taste of dnf rn

warm galleon
#

May be the next arts unit banner is her new bis PerliFumo

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And turns her into dps PerliWheeze

terse valley
#

oh hey rapid ascent has crit rate L

outer ermine
#

ICANToh ye i forgor, prob the first person to ask abt fast pressing combo

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wish simultaneous press worked tho

warm galleon
#

What you mean?

edgy crater
#

u don't double tap but 1 tap for multiple sequence (?)

warm galleon
#

I mean I saw Hifumi play, pressed attack 4 times for one slash attack on LR.

outer ermine
#

just rebinding, 2 keys for one action

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this case combo

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lemme grab my code

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that combo

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its why i take 2-3 hr breaks after 20 runs ICANT

river scroll
gritty olive
#

what rot for yvonne

gritty olive
#

i just took a very lengthy vacation scrajj

dawn patrol
#

so it worked huh

outer ermine
terse raptor
#

Does anyone know if Gilberta's bonus arts susceptibility from active Vulnerability on the target can be lost if the stacks are consumed during the ult duration?

terse valley
#

it's probably lost? since her ult is a lingering AoE?

terse raptor
#

her ult applies art susc after the skill hits, but idk if the bonus will be retained even after the vulnerable stack is gone

terse valley
#

does it persists when the enemy leave the AoE

gaunt mountain
#

what buff alesh did and how much and how long is it?

terse valley
#

is it about hitting the enemy with ult or is it about having the enemi within the AoE

young atlas
#

Is this build good for him?

young atlas
#

I use this one

terse valley
#

he doesnt buff the team directly i think

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only this

terse valley
young atlas
terse valley
#

why is chen benched 😭

young atlas
#

I am just wondering if my Pog build is the right one

terse valley
drifting quest
young atlas
#

I see okay thx

terse valley
#

focusing arts intensity gives the team damage through breach more than the frontier set

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but this set is cringe im ngl

young atlas
#

Okay Ty

drifting quest
#

gearing choices may change with the introduction of new gear options, it remains to be seen since we do not know their stats yet

#

in this case it's unlikely we see any significant changes unless frontiers gets a large about of UGE% pieces and we can facilitate some higher breakpoint on pog while accessing 3p frontiers

#

i would expect that to not be the case

terse valley
#

red gears our savior Praylica

young atlas
#

You mean Rossi gear?

drifting quest
#

odds are it's most a case of new off pieces for some units, less likely than massive gear overhauls

civic wolf
#

so is tangtang going to replace Alesh on Yvonne team?

terse valley
#

no the new red rarity gear we getting in 1.1

drifting quest
young atlas
drifting quest
#

we still do not have numbers

#

there's an argument to drop alesh, an argument to drop gilb and an argument to not run tangtang at all

#

none are certain without numbers

icy remnant
#

How much stronger does Laev get if hot works get an UE chest piece

#

Lynx slab

drifting quest
#

not as much as you'd think but a little bit

icy remnant
#

Another kit like Lynx slab except with different stats would be dope as well

#

For different units not Laev

#

Would be nice to have

bronze plume
#

whats lynx sub stat increase to make people wanna run it

icy remnant
#

More main attribute bonus kits

icy remnant
bronze plume
#

oh

jagged stump
terse valley
#

it's about timing her p3 buff right?

wheat agate
#

the only way to improve perlica antal gilberta team is to add xaihi but removing arclight will cause the stagger capability of the team to plummet further

#

arclight in a way is making that run faster since you do want the stagger, that's the only way perlica deals damage

#

on top of arclight's buffs ofc

young atlas
#

Which one does Lifeng need, Bonekrusha HA or Poncho?

terse valley
#

is your lifeng running EX or swordmancer

young atlas
terse valley
#

gear

young atlas
#

Swordmancer

drifting quest
#

ult efficiency

terse valley
#

uge

drifting quest
#

they're saying if the new hw chest is just tide chest on hw set

#

how much does laev gain from 1 pyrometer > 1 slab

gritty olive
#

Depends

#

The double slab formation i have got worse when i replaced the chest with hw chest

drifting quest
#

i mean yeah that's no set bonus to begin with and you lose uge

#

this is saying like

#

if tide fall chest could fulfill hot work 3p
how much is the gain from x2 pyrometer to x1 pyrometer x1 slab

gritty olive
#

Sorry UE is like unique equipment in blue archive so id rather not compress terms into letter based format

gritty olive
#

Lemme

drifting quest
#

uge

#

is what i say for convenience

#

since people dont tend to get er%

gritty olive
#

Energy% is probably good as well but yeah

drifting quest
#

minimal amount of typing

#

mimimi

dawn patrol
#

snork mimimi

gritty olive
#

26647 to this

bronze plume
#

yeah icl i dont get uge

gritty olive
#

From this alone, should be 7.5% @icy remnant

drifting quest
terse raptor
gritty olive
#

Anyways whats a basic combo for yvonne since i dont have her and i probably didnt reasewrch her properly

#

Need one asap Welt_Think

bronze plume
final plume
#

is pog sig really that bad for him?
it was not in the recommended weapon in the pins doc

drifting quest
#

bad no, worse than alternatives yes

#

from a minmax perspective

#

if you already got it and dont want to feel like you wasted it then just run it

final plume
#

nah I dont have it
im just running out of bis essence to farm cause I still dont have enough fodder for my first 6/6/3
I dont know if thats lucky or not

drifting quest
#

can always save the vouchers and farm fodder without chasing a 3/3

final plume
# drifting quest can always save the vouchers and farm fodder without chasing a 3/3

wouldn't that be a waste?
atleast im not using the wuling one

here is what I have so far: (after 5 copies I start trashing them)

6*
Khravengger x3
Forgeborn Scathe x2
Grand Vision x1
Exemplar x1
JET x1
Thermite Cutter x1
Detonation Unit x1
Eminent Repute x2
Mountain Bearer x5
Wedge x2
Dreams of the Starry Beach x1
Valiant x1

5*
Stanza of Memorials x1
OBJ Edge of Lightness x1
Seeker of Dark Lung x2
OBJ Velocitous x1
Aspirant x5
Sundering Steel x1
OBJ Razorhorn x2

4*
Wave Tide x1
Industry 0.1 x1
Howling Guard x1
Pathfinder's Beacon x1
Contingent Measure x3

drifting quest
#

farming a 3/3 for a weapon you'll never use is just as much of a waste

final plume
drifting quest
#

there's new stuff in the v4 store of unknown cost so doesnt hurt to stockpile

smoky quarry
#

Upped my laeva attack from 3333 to 4599. Is that good result?

final plume
#

probably just the guarantee bis ticket
but then again it would be a waste cause we have 30M cap

drifting quest
#

you can stockpile beyond 30m by not selling elastic goods

final plume
#

im already doing that PerliWheeze
still have leftover so I just buy tickets

drifting quest
#

if you're at 30m, dont sell elastics anyway and have nothing else to grab and have a super high amount of tickets then yeah go for it

proud vector
#

Sounds good to me tbh

smoky quarry
#

Cost me all my money and 120 artificing sets

proud vector
smoky quarry
final plume
#

why is that so low?
im already at 5k with zero artificing and just 4/6/2 on essense and pot0 sword and lae

smoky quarry
#

probably because you are at 90lvl

final plume
#

ohh yeah thats it, cause I upgraded "guaranteed" power spike first before going "RNG"

#

after I max her essence then moving on to artificing hopefully thats less painful PerliDumb

gritty olive
#

youll reach 5.8k atk kater

peak void
#

welcome back morb

icy remnant
#

I don’t have Laevs sword and I tell myself that it’s cus I don’t enjoy playing her anyways RossiCopium

icy remnant
#

Honestly though Torch is good enough and she’s not that fun for me

#

I just use her to brute force some AoE stuff

#

Other stuff Phys is more fun

final plume
honest hill
icy remnant
#

I don’t have Jet

#

So no electric team for me

honest hill
#

e.g leva hot work chest piece int str uge

honest hill
final plume
smoky quarry
honest hill
smoky quarry
drifting quest
#

because we get no info in advance we dont know what new stuff has

drifting quest
#

so anything new in 1.1 is up in the air

#

gear choices, units, weapons, etc

final plume
honest hill
#

I mean there's only 6 days left

smoky quarry
drifting quest
#

if we get datamines from a preload maybe

#

if we dont then no

bold rose
#

Yvonne/LR Tangtang Xaihi Gilb looks like the new team but then do you sacrifice Stanza if no Perlica
or do you put it on Gilb sacrificing her sig

drifting quest
#

if that team is in fact the best setup (which we dont know) or otherwise if you want to run it anyway then you prob just lose stanza bonus

#

a timeline to better fit tangtang might come that can fit stanza

#

impossible to say

leaden tartan
#

You could even boot Xiahi

river scroll
#

tbh if it like that Perlica might still be better than tang tang buff wise. but tang tang have that cryo infliction

final plume
leaden tartan
#

Rossi and Lae are anti synergistic if that's what you're asking.

river scroll
river scroll
drifting quest
#

while rossi can provide some benefits to lae it is just really inefficient

timber harness
drifting quest
#

you lose far more than you gain to add rossi

final plume
#

alright more pulls for Zhuang Fangyi then PerliWheeze

drifting quest
#

it'll clear but it's not good compared to existing stuff

#

same goes for physical teams

#

you lose more than you gain

#

barring ridiculously overtuned numbers on rossi

river scroll
#

Rossi probably better on her own team.

if she have a good number that is RossiCopium

timber harness
leaden tartan
drifting quest
distant python
#

Gil consume copium

timber harness
#

See this is what i meant before with how they design kits lol

river scroll
timber harness
river scroll
#

fkking copium kit

timber harness
#

Requires another premium though

#

Maybe 1.2 theyll actually lock in and release some useful characters

river scroll
#

even with gilb. it's still cope

timber harness
leaden tartan
#

Gilberta isn't super efficient for Rossi, slightly above average. The complication with adding Gilberta to Rossi teams is you need forced arts reaction application as you can't waste two inflictions to proc Gilberta combo skill. Meaning you either have to Wulfguard ult, or bring Perlica or Ardelia.

drifting quest
#

i dont want endfield to become powercreep every patch like other gacha

#

i want them to keep making interesting and fun kits like they have been, even better if they don't powercreep like these ones don't appear to

timber harness
#

There's a difference between powercreep and character bringing something to the table

river scroll
drifting quest
drifting quest
#

tangtang gives extra qol, new damage share
rossi brings an entire new team archetype

final plume
river scroll
#

tbh powercreep probably hardly matter here... stage is currently as easy as possible.

Rhodagn speedrun is at 5 seconds now. powercreep? like what? 4 seconds Rhodagn? PerliWheeze

timber harness
#

Tang sounds okay i guess but in the case of rossi don't see it. So far im just seeing that the hybrid nature of the kit contradicts itself

drifting quest
river scroll
drifting quest
#

lr yvonne lmfao

leaden tartan
#

Rossi is a bridge between arts applicators and vulnerability consumers. The only reason she seems restrictive at the moment is the current cast of characters is limited. She is her own archetype.

river scroll
drifting quest
#

its still bad

#

its just whale shit

unreal light
#

whales are not people

drifting quest
#

uses lr to phase change then yvonne to finish

river scroll
#

tbh i don't think it really possible to powercreep like this

drifting quest
#

it also only works because of on aggro speedrun rules

river scroll
#

since nothing to powercreep

#

or what Trianglos 8 sec next? for powercreep

leaden tartan
#

Xiahi/LR scammers smh

chilly bolt
drifting quest
#

i can try find it

icy remnant
#

I’m a believer of the
LR Xaihi TangTang Perlica/Akekuri team

#

The SP refund shouldn’t matter Ult gen wise cus LR gets more energy back from more Cryo stacks

#

Not sure if Perlica w Stanza is better than just using Akekuri but I haven’t built Perlica yet

smoky quarry
#

LR - Snowshine - Estella - Xaihi

Overkill on cryo infliction?

leaden tartan
#

I'm kind of worried about Yvonne Tangtang in general... isn't plunging the timestop kind of bad there? Maybe you delay it until after the final hit.

drifting quest
#

You struggle to get value of both qol and stacks on tt

icy remnant
#

In theory you can time it perfectly so you plunge after the Ult

drifting quest
#

Thats one of her issues

#

The second is gilb anti synergy

#

The third is sp cost for actual stacking

#

Then some several more

river scroll
drifting quest
#

That are more nuanced

unreal light
#

hey shuo

leaden tartan
#

There's no anti-synergy really... it's marginal overlap. They're not messing with each other.

drifting quest
unreal light
#

have you finished your TT feeling doc

drifting quest
#

So you're -2 down for next uly

unreal light
#

or was it rossi only?

leaden tartan
drifting quest
#

procrastination is my middle name so its still wip

unreal light
#

aahhh I see I see

icy remnant
unreal light
#

ty

icy remnant
#

But yea personally I’m a lot more excited for her in Last Rite comp

drifting quest
#

im split on adding timelines or not because they're hard to read intuitively across different values

unreal light
icy remnant
#

Solving the AoE damage issue while also letting LR get max stack cryo and filling the Ardelia slot at the same time

pallid jewel
#

Do you guys think tang tang is a cat???

unreal light
pallid jewel
#

Really

#

Thought she was a cat

drifting quest
icy remnant
#

Technically in Arknights they’re all animals that mutated to look like humans through Originium

unreal light
drifting quest
#

who?

icy remnant
#

Flourite

#

lol

pallid jewel
#

Mmmmmm

unreal light
#

Fluo my beloved

chilly bolt
#

PerliStareYou flourite who

drifting quest
#

oh right

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talent

unreal light
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another girl

icy remnant
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Half Flourites combo cooldown and she might be viable

chilly bolt
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still 0 buffs

icy remnant
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I said viable not good

unreal light
leaden tartan
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Maybe tangtang's numbers are high enough that stacking teams will be good again and we'll want to bring flourite. Who knows...

unreal light
river scroll
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tbh if Soup debuff is small... all this hype would gone instantly 💀

unreal light
icy remnant
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Nah she would definitely be used at least cus of her damage

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A combination of sub dps and debuff at the same time almost definitely contributes more than Ardelia

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And being able to clear trash mobs is such a big W for ice

drifting quest
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the talents meant to be there for the new boss that disables dodging so like

unreal light
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wasn't there a xaihi only agony run?