theorycrafting

[summer flower]

there is no numbers

[glass birch]

Single infliction to procc; but it works like LR's combo skill

[summer flower]

i dont think much people tried two carries as duos in teams

[glass birch]

If youre using it for 1 infliction then youre using it wrong

[summer flower]

its da pan fuel

for his crush

you sacrifice one melt or whatever to have better da pan cycles

[broken shale]

I'm planning on running rossi for my phys, but will she work with endmin?

[summer flower]

meanwhile you do whatever laev does

[glass birch]

Rossi's a carry not a support her entire kit is based on her doing damage

[summer flower]

but without numbers cannot be confirmed

[summer flower]

she will do her share

[broken shale]

Someone told me she's a sub dps

[summer flower]

you dont want those vunls to do nothing

[whole dove]

Rossi wulf ake gil?? Okay tell me who is gonna use all those vuln stacks?

[tight haven]

whether endmin or dapan is better will depend on rossi's cskill cooldown

[glass birch]

Gilberta is a thing

[tight haven]

it could go either way

[broken shale]

I should prepare both

[summer flower]

giblerta doesnt need as fast vunl application

[broken shale]

Just in case

[glass birch]

Gilberta's ult applies increased arts susceptibility based on vulnerability stacks

She's legit made for Rossi

[opaque pagoda]

its not much

[tight haven]

its quite a bit

[drifting quest]

should be much more pan biased

[summer flower]

well, wasnt i told i was incorrect when saying rossi with gilberta?

for full team crush team endmin i would say, cause no CD on crush

[tight haven]

yeah pans cskill will likely be better

[summer flower]

but for half team da pan

[tight haven]

i doubt theyre gonna make her cskill cd like 10s

[summer flower]

very much

[whole dove]

gilberta doesnt consume vuln stacks

[glass birch]

Gilberta ult > wulf CS (causes combustion) > Rossi ult for max damage

[drifting quest]

if anything just because pan can help stack as well

[pure spoke]

Tang tang when

[noble tapir]

I wonder if MiFu will be a similar design to Rossi. A physical unit but with electrification stuff or something of that ilk

[glass birch]

Don't need to consume them, it just keeps that 4 stack there for the 42% buff

[drifting quest]

more consistently

[summer flower]

da pan and rossi assuming correct cd and stuff

is self containted crush

[tight haven]

i just dont think crush spam is actually the way to go tbh

[summer flower]

so you can pair 2 slot with that with fire

[drifting quest]

no i mean

[summer flower]

which will benefit from rossi if i remember correctly

[drifting quest]

no matter which way you go

[daring dove]

Shouldn't you be in the Rossi waiting room for your Chen team.

[tight haven]

idk idk too early to say

[drifting quest]

its kinda cope

[tight haven]

it is yeah

the team is gonna play weirdly

[drifting quest]

it depends how good that ult multiplier is

[tight haven]

that ult better blow lr out of the fucking water

otherwise idk

[outer ermine]

tangtang ❎
tata

[drifting quest]

for the low low price of 2 slots and terrible uptime, you can like 4 stack heat for 0sp

!!

[pure spoke]

My priority are how i like the characters in the story etc. And then gameplay after xd

[summer flower]

next time they should do showcases with all dmg numbers set to 1

so you only see 1 on every dmg

or even 0

[pure spoke]

Like how i pull for arknights splash artworks and then gameplay

[summer flower]

or some text

"damage number"

"low damange" and mid, and high

[whole dove]

I really wish they woulda give us those multipliers

[neon knot]

whats rossi theoretical bis team?

rossi pog panda Gilberta? honestly so lost how you build this gremlin

[eternal ruin]

what is the artificing priority for phys teams?

[summer flower]

nobody knows

many options hard to tell without CDs and stuff

[drifting quest]

too early to tell

there's a ton of hypothetically playable but they all seem

not too great

so waiting for more info to decide which direction to go in

[summer flower]

i have place for her instead of lifeng that i still dont have

[pure spoke]

Oh ye finally i can replace lifeng

[warm galleon]

[lilac bloom]

🙄

[lilac bloom]

no?

[drifting quest]

they can replace lifeng because they want to

no one is stopping them

[midnight stirrup]

I wonder if well get maintenance oreberyls

[eternal ruin]

should i artifice arts intensity first for endmin?

[terse valley]

p5 exclusive

[pure spoke]

watch me

[summer flower]

XD

[whole dove]

Holy leaks

[pure spoke]

50% dmg boost and occasionally stunned midfight because she is busy admiring endmin

[lilac bloom]

you're right

[summer flower]

XD

[pure spoke]

[summer flower]

its not replacing if you dont have lifeng in first place

[pure spoke]

i have him tho. im glad i didnt use selector ticket to get him p1 like most recommended

[eternal ruin]

what's the artificing priority for phys teams? google isn't helpful at all

[summer flower]

dunno tbh

[drifting quest]

depends on what the gear setup is, weapon setup, actual units on team

[eternal ruin]

i've equipped literally what the spreadsheet recommends

[pure spoke]

in doubt just do main stat. cant go wrong with lil bit more atk

[terse valley]

tangtang ult is not solidifaction right? despite it looking like literally freezing the boss

[eternal ruin]

doesn't crush scale a lot better with arts intensity?

[tight haven]

i'd max out your crusher's gear first, then chen's, then lifeng/pog's

[eternal ruin]

i just want confirmation before i pull the trigger

[pure spoke]

ye it scales with art int

[tight haven]

honestly i wouldn't

artifice

anything

[drifting quest]

Obvious initial disclaimer wait and see what the new gear in 1.1 is
Pog AI is a safe starting point since it buffs everyone
Then Endmin >= Chen > Lifeng >> Pog's non AI

[tight haven]

right now

we are so close to getting new gear

i really really would wait personally

[undone phoenix]

just watched the preview i guess im late to the party

[odd wren]

Ngl first time i tried rapid ascent and its not disappointing at all

[drifting quest]

per unit there's prio, and you'll want to start on some units then swap to others then swap back

but i mean yeah just wait for 1.1 its like

good chance to change gear rec

[undone phoenix]

rossi+gilberta is gonna be the meta

[teal pawn]

close

[drifting quest]

[terse valley]

I wouldn't set the showcase as an example

[teal pawn]

Yeah but like

[drifting quest]

its one of like

[teal pawn]

if this is how the official uses her then

[earnest patio]

Is there any stream regarding the next updates or new codes?

[drifting quest]

5 or 10 potential rossi teams

[teal pawn]

[drifting quest]

no, no
there's a 1.1 dev log video

[drifting berry]

I need tangtang to be trash just so I don't feel bad skipping her for my Yvonne

[drifting quest]

unlikely unless her numbers suck

[terse valley]

not a stream
https://youtu.be/eKTskrTBZxU?si=-XF3vaOc8VAww81U

[earnest patio]

No new codes are there right

[pure spoke]

blasphemy

[terse valley]

no codes ever

[summer flower]

ember almost maxed skills

[drifting berry]

If this is a Dev Log is it possible that we get an actual 1.1 livestream?

[summer flower]

2 left

but those are m3 so ...

i dunno if to rush that or just not

[drifting quest]

no everything for 1.1 that would be in a stream is in the dev log

[pure spoke]

tangtang is our supreme chief. cant be trash

[drifting berry]

just repeat the same video with a different title

[pure spoke]

and to all the ppl who said she looks like a 5 star. suck it

[teal pawn]

You're already missing boss freeze qol

[eternal ruin]

is the new armor separate from or upgrades to our old armor?

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/tangtang-tangtang-arknights-tangtang-arknights-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-gif-7914705516486232318

[teal pawn]

That Yvonne wants so bad

[drifting quest]

same sets, new pieces, side grades

[drifting berry]

Mifu looks like a 5*, Tangtang doesn't.

[terse valley]

she still looks like a 5*

[terse valley]

ima be real with you chief

she aint tuff

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/tangtang-tangtang-arknights-tangtang-arknights-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-gif-7914705516486232318

[teal pawn]

.bestgirl

[crystal coral]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[drifting berry]

I apologize for all the 5 Mifu fans

[pure spoke]

she gonna be a 6 star too

[drifting berry]

She will be a 6 star, but looks like a 5 star.

[pure spoke]

no more 5 and 4 stars anymore

[drifting berry]

Tho what I actually need are more male character so I can skip those banners and save

[terse valley]

new 5* when we enter new region surely

[pure spoke]

also no skins yet smh

[drifting berry]

Da pan was the Wuling 5* operator

[terse valley]

from the showcase looks like rossi combo has ~12s cooldown is that right?

[teal pawn]

moving to cope that this woman helps Rossi blow up less in teamcomps

[lone summit]

Do we have a guesstimate on how many pulls we'll get from the 1.1 patch in total?

[terse valley]

we do not

[lone summit]

That's tough...i hope it'll be revealed before tangtang's banner ends

[dry kindle]

At least 4

[thorn shore]

Is tangtang gonna actually make Yvonne good

Or tangtang make last rite mog Yvonne even harder

[drifting quest]

hard to say

definitely makes yvonne a lot more palatable for most players

[thorn shore]

Got Yvonne by pure sheer luck so pulling tangtang is tempting if it makes it a good team

[tight haven]

yeah i wouldn't bet on anything just yet

[thorn shore]

Happy Rossi isn’t relevant for fire team so I don’t need to pull for her

[next helm]

Rossi without gilberta

Is that possible

[thorn shore]

Wdym

They’re pretty anti synergistic right, gil ult a huge arts amp

Rossi phys

[next helm]

Rossi is both

Friend of mine is complaining that he didn't get gilberta and she will be required for rossi

[thorn shore]

Doesn’t she consume arts sus and apply lift and sus and stuff

[next helm]

But I don't see it

[honest hill]

I mean out of all the characters from 1.0 she has the highest value then lev

they give u all of lev teammates for free

[thorn shore]

Oh wait god I had Rossi so wrong

Wait a minute

Hold up

Laev Rossi Gilberta wulf team

Here I come

[honest hill]

I wouldn't do that

[thorn shore]

Sounds good to me

Rossi applying vulnerability to buff Gilberta ult

And heat sus

[honest hill]

I don't think it'll be better

for lev

[thorn shore]

Yeah maybe

Akekuri link or antal sus and amp

Idk

It’s a possibility I wish we had numbers

Give us a damn stat page

[honest hill]

I mean it'll just be worse

[thorn shore]

Just you wait till Rossi does a million damage by herself as a sub dps

And her heat sus is 10000000%

You’ll all be crying

[honest hill]

[thorn shore]

I don’t even like Rossi but I think there’s a good chance she fits

[honest hill]

it won't beat ake wulf arde/gilb lev team

[thorn shore]

Buff wise for solely Laev probably not

But really have to wait and see her damage

[tranquil cedar]

In the end, number will tell if they're worse it or not

[digital nova]

hi guys

i have all physical characters except lifeng. what would be the best physical team i can form with said chraacters? i asked here before and someone said to check pinned website but that site is so bloated i cant undersand it

thanks for the help

[next helm]

Go to the spreadsheet

Check the physical tab

Scroll down to see some teams, check which you have

[signal thistle]

who has more potential to be good between tangtang and rossi

[drifting quest]

based on current information

tangtang

[tranquil cedar]

Tangtang is overall more solid

But at some point rossi get insane Crit scalling and we talk

[next helm]

Rossi Wulf endmin ardelia sounds like a fine team to me

But friend saying she sounds unplayable without gilb

[tranquil cedar]

Rossi seems bad with gil

[drifting quest]

unplayable no

[tranquil cedar]

But i am probably crazy

[drifting quest]

but gilb does a lot to patch the mess that is rossi kit

[digital nova]

sadly every single one of them involves lifeng except one which has alesh and doesnt even use pog so im sure the damage output of that team wouldnt be very high 🙁 (i have pog)

[tranquil cedar]

No pog chen endmin/da pan + ember

[manic blade]

pyro support coming in 2028 🔥🔥🔥

[next helm]

Pog Chen endmin/dapan flex

[tranquil cedar]

Pog chen + a crusher is all you need for solid phy damage

[digital nova]

thanks ! whose better though endmin or dapan? my dapan is P3

[tranquil cedar]

I am sad soup2 is not a support for Estella alesh combo

[honest hill]

I would pick endmin

with grand vision

[digital nova]

gotcha. i havae ember s1 and ardelia s1. which one should i prefer to use

[honest hill]

ember

[digital nova]

gott it

apreciate it

[tranquil cedar]

Ember ardelia

[honest hill]

Ember sounds better

[tranquil cedar]

Alesh Estella combo support when

[next helm]

Tangtang has to use like a new set right

[digital nova]

i meant which one is better
i have both s1

[next helm]

What would she even run from current gear

[safe forge]

were there any teasers for the future units in 1.2?

[tranquil cedar]

Test both and see which one you like

[honest hill]

I would pick Ember

[digital nova]

thanks for the help everyone

[honest hill]

u can control ember

[digital nova]

may fangyi bless your pulls

[honest hill]

but if u wanna control endmin

then use arde

methinks

[tranquil cedar]

Me use chen

[digital nova]

alright

ill use ardelia, and main endmin

[tranquil cedar]

Gl

[drifting quest]

there is no new set

[next helm]

Oh

[tranquil cedar]

New stat on current set right?

[next helm]

It's just stats

[tranquil cedar]

Like new option for some set?

[next helm]

What does she run

[tranquil cedar]

Dunno maybe the buff on sp recovery?

[honest hill]

I think he meant the red ones

[next helm]

She doesn't recover

[tranquil cedar]

She does with her tornado i think

[next helm]

Is that not return

[tranquil cedar]

O yeah maybe

[honest hill]

yeah generate and return is not the same thing

[tranquil cedar]

Welp need to see the team rotation i guess

[glass birch]

it is return

[drifting quest]

hard to say right now what her set is, plenty of potential options
xiranite
seals / charge build
bonekrusha
frontiers (potentially if only for combo cdr, depending on timeline, not likely)
yinglung
tide surge (kinda has terrible stats for her, and its not getting new gear)

[pallid phoenix]

tangtang come with physical susp right?

[drifting quest]

arts

[tranquil cedar]

Art

[next helm]

Arts intensity

Or cryo damage

Depends on her numbers

Enough ult charge to overlap with Yvonne

[lost dirge]

What's the best LR nuking team now with Tangtang? LR, Xaihi, Tangtang, and Perlica?

[tranquil cedar]

Without tangtang number hard to tell

[lost dirge]

It lose corrosion enabler

[tranquil cedar]

Tangtang can be bad in nuke scénario

[pallid phoenix]

hm so tangtang and gil both got art susc..they don’t stack I assume

[next helm]

Are you just never gonna use gilberta skill anymore

[tranquil cedar]

And better in longer fight

[next helm]

[drifting quest]

they do

[pallid phoenix]

[lost dirge]

oh yeah, they do stack

hmm

[drifting quest]

it's really a case of how much suscept tangtang gives

[pallid phoenix]

yvhone ult count as art damage right

with her normal attack

[lost dirge]

it increase with whirlpool stack so it's not little I believe

[glass birch]

art damage is any element. Cryo, heat, elec, Nature

[next helm]

Tangtangs combo is on cryo infliction or arts burst

Gilberta skill kinda bad then

[tranquil cedar]

Hope tangtang combo is low cd

[next helm]

You could check the footage

[lost dirge]

only use gil skill last for corrosion before nuking

LR can Xaihi can do the infliction

[drifting quest]

15-20s range

rough guess

[next helm]

Wait

[drifting quest]

maybe a bit less

[next helm]

Gilbs ult nature infliction

[leaden mantle]

Did it look like her debuff lasted for a long time? The arts susputiibiltity on tangtang.

[next helm]

Can work or be in the way

[normal tangle]

can we discuss new kits here or nah

[tranquil cedar]

my day is ruined

[drifting quest]

yes as long as its not leaks only official info

[lost dirge]

oh yeah, no reason to use her b skill anymore

[normal tangle]

what would you even leak they already showed all of it

[pallid phoenix]

wonder how long tangtang ult last

time stop seem kinda op

[tranquil cedar]

You might have the numbers for some reason

[normal tangle]

looks like ~5s

[next helm]

Gilberta ult at the end is going to be in the way of the next rot

[tranquil cedar]

The cancel bomb seems great

[lost dirge]

her combo cd should be less than 8s from the vid

[tranquil cedar]

[drifting quest]

you can gilb bskill > gilb ult (arts burst) > yvonne skill > tangtang combo

[tranquil cedar]

Infinite tornado?

[bronze plume]

Has rossi potentiql been cooked since i was asleep

[next helm]

Yeah that's probably the way

[lost dirge]

isn't her combo stack cap at 3?

[drifting quest]

no its gotten worse

lmao

[bronze plume]

Explain

[next helm]

But rn we loop the rotation from the nature infliction at the start

[normal tangle]

i only just now watched vid idk what’s going on yet

[tranquil cedar]

Yeah but you should proc them in time for a New cycle

[next helm]

Maybe we now just gilb bskill at the start on top of the nature

But that seems weaker with Yvonne's passives

[drifting quest]

would be 'good' pairings are worse
rough team timelining is brutal
no good payoff

etc

[lost dirge]

Seems like Yvonne is still in an awkward position compare to LR teamwise lol

[bronze plume]

So no pog rossi? 🥀

[drifting quest]

still a thing but

worse than expected

[tranquil cedar]

i am wondering if soup2 is that great in yvonne compare to the nature team

[bronze plume]

We be waiting 4 years for her potential huh

[bronze plume]

Why so

[tranquil cedar]

Pog rossi is payable if rossi ult cycle fast maybe

[runic ermine]

Yvonne, Tang2, Xaihi, Gilb(??)

[next helm]

I think you start the Yvonne rotation with tangtang

[drifting quest]

so like it just kinda does everything slower in a worse way with less payoff

[pallid phoenix]

hopefully tangtang signature wep is good

[bronze plume]

Compared to just phys?

[next helm]

And every rotation after you get 2x nature into Yvonne skill

[drifting quest]

and it might be that the best thing to do with rossi is just make her an ult centric nuker

ignore the vuln entirely

(buffs gilb ult which is nice at least)

[tranquil cedar]

Yeah

[drifting quest]

and in that role she is just

a worse yvonne

which is funny to say

[bronze plume]

Worse yvonne

[tranquil cedar]

Her ult has the modifier like yvonne on crit

[bronze plume]

I didnt think wed get there

[drifting quest]

early days

there's time

im doing tangtang stuff now

back to rossi later

[bronze plume]

So i didnt wake uo to them saying haha joke rossi is heat vanguard huh

[next helm]

Tc without numbers?

[pallid phoenix]

is tangtang banner first?

[next helm]

Seems rough

[drifting quest]

vibescrafting

[bronze plume]

Yes tang2 is first

[tranquil cedar]

So what about soup2 main dps

[drifting quest]

some numbers can be gleaned from the video

[next helm]

Feelscrafting

[tranquil cedar]

[drifting quest]

like combo skill cooldown, ultimate cost

etc

[next helm]

Ult cost

[normal tangle]

tang^2

[next helm]

Without knowing gear?

[drifting quest]

it assumes no er% gear yes

[tranquil cedar]

Gear should be similar

[drifting quest]

which you can argue is a problem

[bronze plume]

Slap rossi on ult regen geae and call it a day

[drifting quest]

but like if its ult regen gear

[tranquil cedar]

Maybe cryo instead of heat for exemple

[drifting quest]

its so much worse

[next helm]

Lemme know your findings

[drifting quest]

i dont want to believe that the numbers are with uge%

that would be miserable

[tranquil cedar]

I think it will be alt stat not better

[drifting quest]

i can account for uge% i guess

[normal tangle]

i assume they’re just running hot works or something

[drifting quest]

since the cost is roughly doubled

at worst

[next helm]

Favonius set one day

[lost dirge]

I don't think we will get better gear before 2.0

[drifting quest]

some gear we can tell

based on buffs

[bronze plume]

So do we think

They will reset the rewards from. Etchspace

[normal tangle]

no lol

[bronze plume]

Since its getting its 4th area

[drifting quest]

reset no, additional rewards yes

[neon cave]

I thought they said the new gear was on par eith current gear

[tranquil cedar]

No

[drifting quest]

the latter is confirmed

[normal tangle]

maybe add more

[bronze plume]

Or just slap it in and call it a day

[tranquil cedar]

Add more level

[drifting quest]

we might get rotating rewards but thats a bit cope

[tranquil cedar]

Like IS in arknight

[normal tangle]

first we ark. then we night

[dawn patrol]

rossi is going to be phys???????????

[normal tangle]

yes

[gritty olive]

j

[dawn patrol]

idk what i was expecting but definitely not this

[gritty olive]

youre shooting yourself in the foot with that one

[tranquil cedar]

Heat phys hybrid

[normal tangle]

heat/phys hybrid, heat dmg but phys debuffs

just dps ember

[gritty olive]

trust me IS here is never going to be properly balanced

[tranquil cedar]

I meant for reward

[bronze plume]

Heat phys hybird if you think thats currently good

Look at ember

[tranquil cedar]

Adding more level to grind and not resetting each patch

[terse valley]

idk if it's fair compaing a guard and a defender

[dawn patrol]

i'm going to p5r5 her just for the memes

(lie)

(i'm not going to p5r5 her if she's bad)

[terse valley]

besides ember damage is more physical focused and rossi more heat focused

[bronze plume]

Id be so funny if all they did was add area 4 to etchspace and nothing else

[tranquil cedar]

I was going to do that for tang2 regardless of the kit

[bronze plume]

Im saying that a physical heat hybrid isnt good in the game rn not giving a f about dmg

[dawn patrol]

tangtang being cryo was also not on my bingo card

[lost dirge]

same

[tranquil cedar]

Chunni cryo eye

[dawn patrol]

i legit thought it'd be rossi heat/tangtang phys

instead of what we got

[lost dirge]

nor fangyi's greatsword

[terse valley]

if ur playing ember you play her as physical damage anyway, not a hybrid

[tranquil cedar]

I mean rossi is an heat/phys hybrid

[dawn patrol]

fangyi greatsword?????????????????

i thought it'd be arts unit or at least polearm what the fuck

[bronze plume]

If youre playing ember u hate yourself

[next helm]

Sp return and times stop seem too good for Yvonne

[tranquil cedar]

Like estella is cryo phys hybrid

[next helm]

Is this what she needed to be on par with LR?

[drifting quest]

could be story only
could be animation only
could have just changed

[dawn patrol]

estella also sucks (4* syndrome)

hybrid chars have a history of sucking so it's looking bleak for rossi

[tranquil cedar]

akekuri antal are fine

[bronze plume]

Thats becayse ake is just a sp link bot

[terse valley]

probably a nature gs operator

[lost dirge]

welp, LR 2.0

[bronze plume]

With her kit she cpuld literally be 4 different elements and it wouldnt matter

[dawn patrol]

we're never getting another polearm user 💔

[tranquil cedar]

Electric last rite bassicaly

[bronze plume]

Well slightky minus the heat inflict for laev

[terse valley]

they literally teasing one right here

[tranquil cedar]

Mi fu feel like a defender to me

[terse valley]

does that not look like a polearm to you

[dawn patrol]

could just be a staff for arts unit

[tranquil cedar]

Also hope we get some 5 star at some point

[terse valley]

oh who am i kidding thats a sankta surely they'll use a gun this time

[tranquil cedar]

You never know

[dawn patrol]

praying to any god that'll listen that rossi is good

[tranquil cedar]

You know everything can be weapon for an archer

[dawn patrol]

i don't wanna p5r5 a bad char

[tranquil cedar]

[drifting quest]

so far it's pretty dire

but potentials can easily fix that

[tranquil cedar]

Even lance can be thrown by archer

[dawn patrol]

the archer class really is made up of archers

[terse valley]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/841888624387817492.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[neon cave]

The one behind rossi is that white haired girl ryt

[dawn patrol]

yeah i heard heat/phys hybrid and an impending sense of doom immediately washed over me

[tranquil cedar]

She will be an yvonne heat with low ult cd

And you will forget the phys part

[lost dirge]

yeah, just use her as a heat sub dps

[terse valley]

she'll be mainly deal heat damage the way ember mainly deal phys damage

[lost dirge]

rossi is like an solution to gilb ult stack

[glass birch]

she's already electric Its stated in-game that she's proficient in electric arts so unless she's a hybrid arts operator; then she's electric

[quartz flame]

She’ll be the BIS support for an incredibly specific team in 1.5 years trust

[terse valley]

that is the most green electric ive ever seen

[neon cave]

Doesnt the hair shape match? Theres the two pointy things on top and elf ear looking hair on the sides

[tranquil cedar]

After a 2 set of buff

[glass birch]

Yeah she's the 2nd from the right on the teaser

[tranquil cedar]

[glass birch]

I could go into the leak info for that char, but it wouldn't be helpful

[dawn patrol]

can't wait for them to gradually release rossi's bis team and it's just some hybrid bullshit

[tranquil cedar]

I mean rossi bis team = dot team

[terse valley]

new content: enemy weak to heat and phys but alternates between the two

[glass birch]

Honestly depends on wether her Talent 2 applies physical damage when she crits or heat. If it's heat her Bis team would be
Rossi, Gil, Wulf, Ake

If it's phys it'd be;
Rossi, Pog, Ardelia, Wulf

[tranquil cedar]

Enemy take only dot damage

[dawn patrol]

new content: enemy weak specifically to rossi

blatantly

[glass birch]

Oh no! Did I log into the DNA discord?

[tranquil cedar]

You have to play rossi to access the boss arena

[dawn patrol]

if you don't have p5r5 rossi you do 1% dmg

[tranquil cedar]

Cause short

[glass birch]

teensy weensy

[terse valley]

ok stop it wasnt that funny

[glass birch]

Okay. Who's excited for the 3 stat guarentee for essences so theres 0 RNG to getting a perfect base?

I know I am lol

[terse valley]

seems like it's a one time thing item you purchase from stock bill shop

[tranquil cedar]

You need to farm essence to max stat anyways

[dawn patrol]

perfect essence for rossi

[glass birch]

its like the current items. They stated they want to implement it for Wuling and future regions too

so the essence tickets will likely get replaced

[tranquil cedar]

I mean getting the essence perfect is not that hard

[glass birch]

or itll be like a once per week item

[tranquil cedar]

Leveling is the main pain

[dawn patrol]

most of your time is spent farming fodder essence anyway

[glass birch]

its like a 1 in 12 chance depending on what you select

[tranquil cedar]

easiest gacha ever

[terse valley]

one guaranteed perfect essence a week seems a bit much it's probably either a monthly or per patch or one time purchase times 3 or something

[drifting quest]

it's going to be permanent

maybe even 1 only

[normal tangle]

you're going to be farming the essence alluvium 15+ times anyway, doesn't matter

etch fodder is the big bottleneck

perfect essences are whatever

[terse valley]

who does tangtang replace in LR team?

[drifting quest]

we dont know yet

not xaihi, at least

one of the two remaining flex slots

[terse valley]

yeah it looks like LR xaihi tangtang and another support uhh gilbert?

[glass birch]

Whats LR's team currently? (Doesnt play LR)
LR/Xaihi/Ardelia/perlica?

[drifting quest]

lr xaihi flex flex

[outer ermine]

^

she greedy, tang just another flex

[terse valley]

two flexes, one for each arm

[outer ermine]

[drifting quest]

ardelia, akekuri, alesh, perlica, gilberta, snowshine/estella/fluorite

all exists as flex slots

alesh can prob join the back of the queue

[normal tangle]

what is gilb doing there

just for big arts susc?

[glass birch]

big arts susceptibility for her ult

[terse valley]

to buff ult damage ig?

[swift tundra]

I wonder how much arts susceptibility Tangtang will provide and how high that will go together with Gilberta ult.

[lost dirge]

Let's say just 20 cap with max stack, that's still a lot for a sp positive unit.

that's like 50% with gilb together

[swift tundra]

arts sus scales additively? It does say "Effects of the same type can stack."

[lost dirge]

pretty sure additive

[swift tundra]

I just hope the uptime is like 10 seconds so that you have room for setup. If it only last while the whirlpool is active and spinning around the mobs, then it might suck.

[proud vector]

Urgh, feels a bit sucky to have skipped Gilberta I suppose

this too shall pass in time

[lyric latch]

lasts a few seconds even after the whirlpools are gone

[proud vector]

Positive? This assumes sp return on ultimate version of the whirlpool restore SP as well?

[lost dirge]

With LR, Xaihi, Tang2, and Gilb team, the rotation should be prep Xaihi and LR b, FS, Tang c, LR b, FS, Xaihi c, LR b, FS, Tang c (potentially depend on cd), Xaihi ult, Tang ult (ult gain for this breakpoint), LR c, Gilb ult, LR ult.

[lost dirge]

It said ult act like a battle skill, so I assume it provide energy? If not positive, it's at least neutral.

[swift tundra]

It will be funny if Tangtang ends up better on her own than with LR or Yvonne. LMAO.

[proud vector]

Yeah they just never do the dive in gameplay footage so it’s technically unconfirmed

When they dive in ult showcase the SP bar is full

[drifting quest]

while possible, doesnt appear probable given current information

[proud vector]

It’ll take massive massive multipliers on triple whirlpool haha

And she still wants a cyro infliction spender

[lyric latch]

in the second demonstration it lasted a whole 27seconds but thats spamming all their ults which probably extended the timer

[swift tundra]

yeah, her not using cyro stacks just makes her better to be run with others that spend it.

[proud vector]

…huh

Tangtang main dps can probably afford to corrosion lv 4 and upkeep it with lv1’s kinda unironically with Gilberta

[tranquil cedar]

soup2 dps here we go

[swift tundra]

that's kinda what I'm thinking. Tangtang, Gilberta, Perlica, Xaihe and go max arts intensity corrosion+electrocution. Not sure if that will beat just having another that spends cyro stacks with huge multipliers tho.

[lost dirge]

I can see that will net good consistent dmg, not sure about nuke potential though

having to play with that rotation for longer fight is a nightmare though

juggling so many effects

[mortal trellis]

anyone have any guesses on whether or not rossi's combo skill requires the arts infliction to be active in order to proc the second vuln application? my roster isn't diverse enough to know if there's another operator with a similar skill

[outer ermine]

holy i just realized

[lost dirge]

it said she need both vuln and art infliction for the combo to start

[proud vector]

Rossi combo skill can’t activate unless the enemy has an infliction and a vuln simultaneously

[outer ermine]

[proud vector]

Intellegence

[mortal trellis]

yeah ik that its required for the combo to start, but say if the stack was consumed during the combo skill animation is my question

[outer ermine]

big brain

[proud vector]

Unknown

[mortal trellis]

im guessing there's no other op in the game as of now that functions similarly then?

[tranquil cedar]

Stack seem to be consume on 2nd part of the combo

[mortal trellis]

i know that

[tranquil cedar]

Convert art into vul

[mortal trellis]

convert isn't stated

it just says its consumed

but what if you consume it before her own combo skill does

would the second vuln still apply

that's my question

but if its just unknown then oh well

[proud vector]

LR stack consumption can be stolen from combo skill. The combo can be triggered first and then the initial conditions can be removed and it will work ok

However LR loses the additional effects of consuming the infliction, doing just base damage instead

It is unknown if the lift is tied to the consumption, or if it is just to boost damage.

[lost dirge]

combo 1 consume art infliction and apply lift. combo 2 if timed correctly, apply another lift and buff crit rate and crit dmg

[mortal trellis]

is the wording any similar to rossi's?

actually what am i saying i have lr

lemme just go read

[lost dirge]

so assumed you started combo 1, the infliction is already consumed, so you can't have another unit consume that infliction as well if you wanna do that shinanigan

[proud vector]

Exactly, go read kek

[swift tundra]

I think if whirlpool multipliers can add up to ~1000% damage, this comp has potential to kill Rhodagn in one burst window.

[mortal trellis]

ok her kit specifically states the damage is tied to stacks consumed

combo sequence 2 on rossi seems like it just needs the two conditions of "have vuln" and "have arts infliction" for it to be triggerable

ig we'll just have to wait and see

trying to theorize how scuff a team like da pan/endmin + pog + rossi + gilberta would be

[proud vector]

The only place where that could be good is shatter I guess

Gilb alone doesn’t really use the infliction anyways

[mortal trellis]

i just forgot i had her ngl

[proud vector]

But for shatter it makes the value proposition more interesting since they need one infliction naturally anyways

[leaden tartan]

If you're going to going to run Rossi/Gilberta what are your options for arts reaction application? Obviously, you'd want forced application because wasting two stacks of arts infliction to proc gilberta's combo is terribly innefficient for Rossi. So that's what... Perlica, Ardelia, and full ult gain Wulfguard?

[proud vector]

Wulf is the intended synergy yes

If Rossi has good numbers, Rossi Wulf Gilb probably? (Combo damage centric)

Or Rossi Gilb Perlica (ult damage centric)

[leaden tartan]

Perlica seems good, but she's less efficient in a 75% physical team

[tranquil cedar]

Would be funny that rossi end up not being played with gilb

[proud vector]

Free vuln to start her kit is kinda valuable

Else it costs 100 sp I guess

[tranquil cedar]

Wulf rossi pog endmin comp

trust my fantasy number

[lost dirge]

what type of dmg is rossi ult? heat or phys?

[proud vector]

Heat

[tranquil cedar]

Heat

[proud vector]

Rest is phys

[leaden tartan]

Ardelia corrosion by timing a last hit when you clear all your stacks seems like a good option... She applies both vulnerabilities too, which Rossi appreciates.

[proud vector]

Expennnnsive sp wise

Bweeeeeh

[tranquil cedar]

Imagine rossi stac vul so fast she make breach crash 4 stack fast

[proud vector]

Even worst case scenario Wulf bs Rossi BS Rossi BS Rossi CS is 4 stack vuln I guess

[leaden tartan]

We'll have to see the actual breakdown of her damage. I think breach will be less efficient than crush due to her split damage.

[mortal trellis]

im thinking gibby ult at 4 vuln (nature inf, triggers rossi combo skill, applies arts susc) > rossi ult (buffed by arts susc, applies heat inf > triggers corrosion) > rossi cs1 > rossi cs2 (applies 2 vuln) > gibby cs > apply 1 more vuln for a quick crush
could also only trigger gibby ult or only trigger rossi ult if her ult nuke is kinda mid so you have more ults to juggle for applying arts inf
breach after gibby ult and before rossi cs2, pog cs right after to regain sp
kinda just rotationmaxxing but idk how good or bad the damage will be, esp without rossi's numbers

[proud vector]

Er

That’s… huh! That will be tight since CS2 wants to be timed

[mortal trellis]

maybe im overcooking, maybe i haven't even turned on the stove

[proud vector]

We don’t even know if we can split it apart like that without interrupting it

[mortal trellis]

but it just popped into my head when i saw her kit

[mortal trellis]

ye ye thats why i was curious

her kit sounds very fun though and holds some potential so she caught my attention

[leaden tartan]

It didn't really look like it was interruptible. probably either locked in or will drop the combo.

[tranquil cedar]

Hope rossi get some ult vul scaling on a passive

[mortal trellis]

that would also be pretty cool

would make my rotation above even more tight on timing though

[tranquil cedar]

Can’t abuse breach but work with crush

[mortal trellis]

you'd have to time the breach to perfectly end after rossi's ult so she could take advantage of the 4 vuln stacks, while still consuming it before having to trigger her cs2

maybe her weapon does something, who knows

[leaden tartan]

It's actually really hard to fit chen in there.

[tranquil cedar]

Chen is bad with rossi i feel

Rossi can power vul so fast

[leaden mantle]

Does Gilbertas messager song talent also apply to her?

[lost dirge]

yeah

[mortal trellis]

yeah when i first saw her kit, i immediately though of chen sidegrade, but then that quickly fell apart when i noticed that cs2 requires an arts infliction

gibby's probably a mandatory teammate for her

and lifeng i felt could be replaced, losing out on like 20% dmg buff is prob worth if rossi could enable a 33% faster crush cycle

[tranquil cedar]

I am not sure

[lost dirge]

gilb in a physical team though

[tranquil cedar]

Yeah that

[mortal trellis]

that is kinda scuff yeah

there is potential though

her ult could buff rossi's ult with arts susc

ties into vuln as well

[tranquil cedar]

I mean if rossi is a nuke on ult

Maybe

[mortal trellis]

im definitely excited for rossi now but we'll wait and see

thanks for the insight guys

[leaden tartan]

Really when you break it down, what Rossi does is allow you to stack vulnerability without including vulnerability stackers in your team. So Chen getting bumped is kind of a natural conclusion.

[tranquil cedar]

Too bad estella combo trigger on solidification

And not the ice consumption

[lost dirge]

rossi, gilb, pog and wulf seems like the best way to go, but still feel scuffed

[drifting quest]

it's

really bad

maybe there's some tech not shown to us

[mortal trellis]

idk about that bro

[tranquil cedar]

I can see rossi wul pog da pan

[drifting quest]

but this team is like not good

[mortal trellis]

booting the phys dps is kinda

uh

too much

[drifting quest]

this should work but is just like worse than non rossi stuff

[leaden tartan]

Pog isn't really supporting Rossi effectively compared to crushers.

Subject to her numbers I guess.

[mortal trellis]

is it though? depending on how rossi's cs2 triggers, we could see far faster rotations at the cost of losing lifeng's phys susc and link

[tranquil cedar]

If you stack 4 into 4 fast maybe not

[leaden tartan]

I don't think it's likely breach will be the way.

[drifting quest]

the kit is cool, but im struggling to think of a team where she isn't just a downgrade

[mortal trellis]

heavily depends on rossi's individual performance though

[drifting quest]

how are you stacking 4 into 4 fast

[mortal trellis]

she has to shoulder chen AND lifeng's performance

[drifting quest]

we can see the cooldown in the video, it's not short enough

ignoring actually proc'ing the combo

[tranquil cedar]

Dépend of rossi number but if she has low combo

maybe

[lost dirge]

lol just use rossi is lava team lmao

[drifting quest]

its 10-15s cooldown

[mortal trellis]

wdym short enough

[bronze plume]

Thats the worst idea

[mortal trellis]

the duration of the cs trigger window?

[drifting quest]

and combo skill 2 resets the cooldown

[mortal trellis]

or the cs cd

[dawn patrol]

rossi mdps 🔥

[leaden tartan]

Rossi is basically direct competition to Leav.

[lost dirge]

how?

[drifting quest]

cooldown

[mortal trellis]

even if its the default cd, thats still twice as fast as chen

question is how realistic is it in an actual rotation

[bronze plume]

Who are you cutting out of a laev team for rossi

[dawn patrol]

hg make rossi capable as a mdps and my life is yours

[drifting quest]

idk where twice as fast is coming from

[mortal trellis]

purely because she applies 2 vuln

thats kinda it

[proud vector]

Again my theory is Talent2 is where a bulk of Rossi damage actually is

In 0.25x playback speed, the talent is triggering faster than the heal animation can cycle (you can tell because the HP increments in increments desynced and faster than the heal effect around Rossi herself)

To me this indicates that her ult, while heat damage, may possess a significant physical part as well due to Talent 2

[mortal trellis]

thats the whole backbone of this argument

[proud vector]

but that’s just a theory, a Rossi theory
Thanks for cooking

[mortal trellis]

whether or not it will work is pure speculation

yeah

[bronze plume]

You are never using rossis combo skill in a laev team

[gritty olive]

who has hyperarmor in this game

[bronze plume]

You are only ever using the ult for 1 single heat infliction

[mortal trellis]

ember ig

[tranquil cedar]

Does rossi ult apply heat art?

[mortal trellis]

ye

[gritty olive]

rossurossirosissrossirossu

[mortal trellis]

heat infliction

on final hit though

[drifting quest]

you're gated by sp to do it, and chen is doing '2' in the same time too

[tranquil cedar]

I am wondering if you can mono rossi for speed phys kill then

[leaden mantle]

Not gonna lie, tang tang arts sucuptibility looks easy to proc. All you basically need is one cryo inflection (like snow shines parry) (she could do it herself, but you save more sp if you trigger the parry) to trigger the combo and you could just activate tangtangs battle skill. It would really depend on her numbers though :/ I think it lasts for 20 or so seconds. Or 15. Hopefully her numbers are good.

[tranquil cedar]

[leaden tartan]

You can't run them together... what are you thinking? Rossi uses infliction stacks that Leav wants to convert to vulnerability stacks that don't benefit her. It's the biggest anti-synergy in the game.

[drifting quest]

mono rossi is even worse

[leaden mantle]

And her ult has good cc as well

[mortal trellis]

how are you being gated by SP? both of them trigger off of an application, which, unless youre running ember for chen, will both require 100 sp

[drifting quest]

rossi needs an arts infliction too, which you need to apply somehow

chen only needs a vuln application

which there are a ton of sources for

[tranquil cedar]

Get her ult faster dummy

[mortal trellis]

thats what gibby's ult would be for

[tranquil cedar]

[mortal trellis]

or her own ult, yeah

[drifting quest]

so now you're gated by (sp anyway) energy

[mortal trellis]

you can juggle the ults, esp with gibby on an ult charge build

[tranquil cedar]

But yeah rossi is scuff to find daway

[honest hill]

rossi a worse chen

[drifting quest]

^^

like

rossi isn't hugely behind

[tranquil cedar]

She is worse chen

[drifting quest]

i can agree

but the idea she is better than chen

[tranquil cedar]

[drifting quest]

is just not true

[tranquil cedar]

She is smaller chen

[honest hill]

it's just cope from ppl who wanna pull her

[drifting quest]

she's a downgrade, for now

[mortal trellis]

im only claiming she'd be better, in theory, at just applying vuln for faster rotations

it'd come at the cost of losing chen and lifeng on a phys team

[drifting quest]

i mean yeah im trying to find a home for her myself

its just not happening

[honest hill]

it's their way to justify pulling her and not regret about it

[dawn patrol]

it's ok surely we'll figure something out by the time she drops

[tranquil cedar]

For speed kill she maybe better than chen

With ult to Apply the heat alone

[drifting quest]

the justification is 'i like rossi im using her even if she's a downgrade, the game is easy enough i can clear with her anyway'

[tranquil cedar]

But that it

[kind nebula]

it seems her only use is as gilberta fodder which is kinda stupid

[honest hill]

at least tangtang has a home with Yvonne and possibly LR (I hope)

[drifting quest]

she does not, i can assure you of this

we dont need numbers

[kind nebula]

tt has a home with more LR than yvonne i believe

[tranquil cedar]

[leaden tartan]

Rossi needs several things depending on the team... if you're using gilberta she needs a forced arts reaction that doesn't consume inflictions. Otherwise, she needs an arts infliction and a vulnerability stack from somewhere. And in addition to that, she needs someone to consume vulnerability stacks (likely crush preferred). Her team slots are very competitive.

[drifting quest]

chen has her own personal damage in speedkills

[kind nebula]

i dont think tt would work well with yvonne, but we need to wait for more information on her kit

[drifting quest]

which rossi does not have because her main damage is tied to ult, which is not physical damage, so is not buffed in a physical team except by her own clawmark

[mortal trellis]

why are we speculationmaxxing again

[dawn patrol]

surely she can't be bad at p5r5

[mortal trellis]

sigh

[honest hill]

a lot of them just button mash so easy fr fr

[drifting quest]

what else are we going to do

there's nothing to tc

[mortal trellis]

wait

[honest hill]

no

[drifting quest]

since its useless with new gear coming

[mortal trellis]

thats why im only discussing application

not numbers

[honest hill]

I ain't waiting

[mortal trellis]

lol

womp womp

dont speculate like its truth then

[drifting quest]

we have some numbers

[kind nebula]

tbf, i dont think that the rhodgan tc is being improved much with the new gear, nor marble

[drifting quest]

plus things that can be stated with (some degree) of truth

[mortal trellis]

if youre referring to the ones shown in the video, who knows what gear they might be using, it might be shit, which is just more speculation

[tranquil cedar]

Let’s trust the chief on that

[honest hill]

I like how tangtang can freeze bosses

it's insane

[kind nebula]

yeah i think tt will be good for tcs

[proud vector]

Real domain expansion or timestop energy

[drifting quest]

i doubt they went out of their way to put units on 3p frontiers then ult gain pieces to throw us off in the showcases

[proud vector]

So cool

[drifting quest]

but pop off

[mortal trellis]

you doubt but you dont know

[proud vector]

Honestly it’s more of a sharingan

[mortal trellis]

god why does everone love speculating

[honest hill]

ye I'm surprised they released a unit like her to cc bosses in place

[gritty olive]

oh shit

[drifting quest]

yes lets treat things as black and white

[leaden tartan]

The roster is still rather limited. There's a lot of things you can determine based purely on mechanics without even looking at numbers.

[lost dirge]

solidification just got powercrept 1 patch in

[gritty olive]

tangtang has an actual e2 art

[drifting quest]

lets not use our common sense

[honest hill]

like ik we have phys team stagger but she is on another level

[dawn patrol]

game has no content so idk what you're expecting

[mortal trellis]

idc if you speculate to yourself and say its speculation, i care if you speculate to others and say its fact

[proud vector]

Solidification isn’t a CC reaction it’s a damage reaction in disguise!

[mortal trellis]

that's the difference

[dawn patrol]

seems like a silly thing to get mad about

[kind nebula]

thing is phys team stagger is already the best tcs for marble/triangle iirc, and cryo has better burst damage anyways

[mortal trellis]

one is having some fun, one is spreading potential misinfo

[gritty olive]

its lime this holyy

[odd wren]

The birds in umbral?

[drifting quest]

you're in a tc channel you cannot expect us to explain nuance after every single comment

[kind nebula]

very interested to see how the very limited amount of tcs we have gets changed because of tt

[mortal trellis]

did you even read my reply

[honest hill]

ye

[proud vector]

TT?

[drifting quest]

or you know what

[dawn patrol]

i wrote that before you sent it but either way my stance remains unchanged

[kind nebula]

tangtang

[honest hill]

what birds u talking abt

[drifting quest]

let me write you a nice copypasta we can add to every comment

[proud vector]

God we need a proper abbreviation from her

[bronze plume]

New enemy

[kind nebula]

her kit seems stupidly good for bossing/time attacking

[kind nebula]

yeah tt is really bad but whatever its fine

[odd wren]

The three birbs

[honest hill]

uh show me

[odd wren]

Its in the dev log

[bronze plume]

Just look at the video

[dawn patrol]

this is peak it's all downhill from here

[proud vector]

Legal disclaimer?

[honest hill]

what time

[odd wren]

That i cant remember lmao

[honest hill]

[gritty olive]

fake vs real

[honest hill]

I mean livestream wasn't really rememberable

I mean dev log vid

[drifting quest]

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

does this please you

[bronze plume]

I dont think rossi would want to be like lappy

[drifting quest]

i can add it to every message

[odd wren]

[dawn patrol]

new tc copypasta just dropped

[drifting quest]

Rossi teams really just suck right now

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

physical stuff is just a downgrade from mono phys

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[drifting quest]

arts stuff is just like like perlica gaming

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

[honest hill]

the man is already gone

[drifting quest]

you have like hypercarry rossi stuff without perlica, but that's kinda just a worse yvonne

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

[gritty olive]

indra is better but she got hit with the 2019 operator e2 art debuff

[dawn patrol]

hypercarry rossi so based

[dawn patrol]

i'm going to run hypercarry rossi bc this game is too boring or whateva

[odd wren]

These birbs

[honest hill]

yes tangtang can freeze them in place like it's nothing even recrisis bosses too

[gritty olive]

endfield is pretty borring

[drifting quest]

its the best ive found so far, but it has the issue of like, if I run perlica on the team to help buff rossi then perlica might just outdps rossi lmao

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

[odd wren]

The smoke screen is annoying from what I've heard

[gritty olive]

is2 is even more engaging than this

[bronze plume]

Im going to maybe get rossi cuz theres a slim chance she can be ran with pog and i dont like chen

[odd wren]

Cannot use dodge and you get silenced

[dawn patrol]

i hope rossi's numbers are just massive LMAO

[honest hill]

dw the ppl who will say it's easy are just CC spammers

[mortal trellis]

wow was it really that hard

[proud vector]

Testing testing

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

[drifting quest]

the dude left to bitch about it in team build

lmfao

[proud vector]

There we go up your game with some formatting

[dawn patrol]

yes we get it the ` key exists

[odd wren]

I'll just lift em up

[teal pawn]

A

-# This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion.

[honest hill]

I will have to with gilberta

[proud vector]

Yoooo

New discord tech unlocked

[odd wren]

[teal pawn]

[mortal trellis]

god forbid i get frustrated at people being insufferable 🤫

[proud vector]

Thank you very much this is hilarious

-# This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion.

[drifting quest]

its okay you have permission to cry about it

[gritty olive]

then go there

[drifting quest]

time to set up a macro to add it to every message

[gritty olive]

#theorycrafting when number crunching cant be done due to lack of numvers

[drifting quest]

no wonder everyone who does tc quit the server lmao

[dawn patrol]

rossi's situation looks a bit dire but surely her numbers will be massive and all will be well

[drifting quest]

good numbers can save her

somewhat

[kind nebula]

is there another tc community

[bronze plume]

The problem is if her numbers are massive

[leaden tartan]

What are you even talking about?

[drifting quest]

several yes but they're all private group chats

this is the only active public tc space i know of

[kind nebula]

makes sense

[bronze plume]

Doe sthat just mean we wont ever get any actual dedicated heat/phys support kinda thing

[drifting quest]

the rest are small invite only ones

im in like 3? 4?

[mortal trellis]

i can't believe how a discussion regarding rossi's potential as a faster vuln applier got boiled down to "number spekulashion" even when i ended my original theorycrafting with we dont know yet and i'll just wait

[dawn patrol]

i'm talking about rossi's situation being dire, evidently

[mortal trellis]

actually insane goalpost shifting

[proud vector]

I mean

[drifting quest]

what number speculation are you referring to

we can literally see her combo cooldown in the stream

we can see her ult cost

we know how fast other units like wulfgard stack

[dawn patrol]

honestly i'm not even asking for massive numbers i just hope she isn't ass, supports coming later is ok

[proud vector]

We have a fast vuln applier in Estella and you don’t see phys shatter make much waves

[drifting quest]

what exactly is absent in your eyes

[honest hill]

erm shuo he didn't read all that

[drifting quest]

genuinely, honest discussion

give me what we still need

oops sorry i forgot

"This information is based on currently known information. It is speculative and based on my own opinion and might change as more information is released, we get numerical values and actual testing is done. Some comments might be hyperbolic due to the way I talk and do not necessarily reflect objective truth. Some comments may be presented as fact even if they are opinion."

[proud vector]

unless Rossi personal numbers are good she is in my mind in a space similar to Estella shatter phys

[honest hill]

the amount of words on the screen overwhelmed him

[drifting quest]

reading comprehension is difficult

i understand

[bronze plume]

Clearly in 1.2 they are cooking a unit who can proc a arts from there own skill into there own combo that does a vuln therefore they make rossi do her combo

[gritty olive]

when does wisadel come

[dawn patrol]

#theorycrafting message

[bronze plume]

10th anni

[gritty olive]

or wang

[proud vector]

Well since we start with ults lmao…

[drifting quest]

wangsadel

[bronze plume]

Ong

[kind nebula]

some hybrid bullshit will be released and rossi will be bis in 1.2 or some bullshit but whatever

[honest hill]

I feel like literacy rates and reading comprehension worldwide is dropping too

[drifting quest]

more sequential unit pulls would be so miserable

[mortal trellis]

hm yes confident claims that can't be confirmed unless you were part of the dev team creating rossi's kit and recording her demo, doesn't involve numbers whatsoever

[kind nebula]

thing is that white night nova's existance means that hybrid teams have the potential to exist

[leaden tartan]

There are plenty team configurations that enable Rossi with the current roster. I don't know what the confusion is.

[proud vector]

No, literacy is fine. Problem solving and actively researching is becoming a goddamn lost art

[dawn patrol]

there is no confusion, she just happens to be suboptimal in all of them, hope this helps!

[proud vector]

People don’t know what to do when they lack information

[drifting quest]

1. Dev team literally said her main damage is in ult, lmao, its in the video
2. she is not better at stacking vuln than chen is, what exactly is your issue here
3. we do have some numbers yes
4. idk why you send this one

brb let me grab the exact comment

[proud vector]

Instead of trying to find out they just make stuff up nowdays

[mortal trellis]

there is no confusion, i did some theorycrafting, someone brought up something unrelated and now the goalpost has been successfully shifted

[kind nebula]

the issue is that none of them are good because you need to drop another support (lifeng) for a dedicated arts inflictor

[proud vector]

[honest hill]

have to make up stuff to feel smart fr

[leaden tartan]

If GIlberta applied 1% vulnerability she would be suboptimal in all of her teams too... what are you smoking?

[odd wren]

Im so dumb i bought etching tickets instead of catalyst lmaooo

[kind nebula]

this is a theorycrafting channel, obviously is someone is suboptimal in every team avalible rn, they would be labeled as bad

[mortal trellis]

1. ok but we dont know the numbers
2. thats the only thing i was trying to theorycraft, you grouped this claim with the ult damage claim which is fundamentally tied to numbers
3. my point was those numbers aren't known to be using the optimal gear, it could be better or worse for all we know
4. same as above

[odd wren]

moments

[dawn patrol]

if the game was different then optimal team comps would be different 🤓☝️

[honest hill]

too bad u can't whale on stock bills (imagine)

[odd wren]

Sigh but its ok at least my bills wont cap

[bronze plume]

I wish bills had a cap irl

[odd wren]

There is... Ngl

[honest hill]

I wonder if the new gear will use the current wuling catalysts if so then I will save up

[bronze plume]

True...

[dawn patrol]

rossi just doesn't have a team tailored to her atm and that's just how it is

[dawn patrol]

that's called eating the rich methinks

[odd wren]

Imho i dont think they will be useable maybe we get new ones?

[honest hill]

I hope so

[kind nebula]

if HG does the HSR approach of releasing rossi supports in 1.2 im crashing out but its fine