theorycrafting

[rain veldt]

I see most guides recommend hot work for Lae, how about the tide surge set? Since it has Int, Str stats and basic attack%
Hot work passive is easier to proc with just BS unlike the Tide set which will only work during Ult.

[neat snow]

Hot work is the damage set. Gives heat damage and bs damage which makes for massive combusts.

Or enhance bs

Otherwise I go ult gain with seals for comfy

But it's really best with pots on the sig

[gritty olive]

thats interesting

thing is skill is pretty big for her damage before p4 and p5, and i only included one ebs during ult, so if you have excess sp its going to be even more significant

i only have this from my calcs, though i wont be interested doing tidefall

@rain veldt also, forge gives shtitons of dmg% later so its going to be "worse" per se

[rare zodiac]

@gritty olive should we implement BA cancel in this cal?

[dry kindle]

Tide is meme

[gritty olive]

i wouldnt

[dry kindle]

Its like 10 or 15% worse than hotworks

[gritty olive]

if the duration isnt enough, i can like

check if the ult column on top or besides it is good so that if the timer runs out its going to check its fine

so like its a XOR gate

[rare zodiac]

Nah it’s not a duration problem, if you cancel the second hit of the 2 BA and the hit lag of FS you can squeeze in 5 BA instead of 4 BA

[gritty olive]

thats very laborious for me

i still want to calc yvonne

if we make the yvonne calc fast enough i can try it

[rare zodiac]

Well i will think of something

[gritty olive]

yeah ill start calcing monday, since ill try to fix these sheets

[rare zodiac]

Maybe i can make n2 cancel/n5 cancel and make an action like “n5 2 cancel”

[gritty olive]

sure

just extend everything to the right for the timers

[outer ermine]

ujrytdh hit a 1.3 but accidentally pressed stop replay instead of download lmaoo

[dry kindle]

🗿

[outer ermine]

im 17/64 on iframe tho its ight but could be better

[main nova]

another physical enjoyer

[odd wren]

Im Endmin hi

[main nova]

[grand lagoon]

[neon cave]

is this right for exp usage per operator? ive double checked it but maybe the source i used wasnt right since it felt off by about 2~3 digits (or maybe it's an exp item round off error?)

[rare rover]

i dont know

[molten star]

Do y'all etchmax the physical team?

[steady gate]

Looks right. Its rounded to the next 200, or 1000 depending on elite level. I wouldn't add lower level and higher level exp together since they use different experience.

[oak vigil]

Technically speaking etching for any team requires to just max it out (at least the third passives for the weapons for the juicy damage buffs), but yeah

It’s like all the same, mostly

[neon cave]

thanks, yeah i just added that cell cuz i was curious - and also to check if it matched with the source i was using

[peak void]

skport wiki has these values but you have to calculate based on the required exp materials

i only have individual on me for 1-60

1-20: 23k
20-40: 243.6k
40-60: 475.8k

so i guess i only find discrepancy in 20-40

[main nova]

if you commit to it, yeah

there is no reason commit to many team anyway

just pick whichever playstyle you like the most

[peak void]

since most of them make significant contribution to team dmg, i plan to

pogs only getting max on 3rd line tho

maybe 2nd if im feeling generous

[main nova]

all max no break

well i think i only max Pengmin for now

Heat or Freeze team usually more simple

since you only need to max their core dps like Laev or Last Rite

[upbeat igloo]

M3 when?

[unreal light]

You don’t really need to etch the whole team in order to beat the content

In my case, 9/6/9 Sundering Chen was enough to beat rhodagn in 80 sec

Other team essences were all +1-2

[ashen scroll]

Does anyone even done the math for each team in scenario where they all fully geared

Surely the meta would change if the investmen equation is removed

[unreal light]

There hasn’t been any math shared on that topic

Most likely people just compared the main dps fully geared

[terse valley]

does arclight consuming a lv3 electrification counts as triggering the additional effect three times?

[unreal light]

Nope it’s per consumption

[ashen scroll]

Tbh i like it this way , good player can save resource and the more casual one can use more to compensate

[terse valley]

thats actually crazy expensive

[oak vigil]

Nope, she is a gluttonous beast which doesn’t care

Even if 4 stacked arts reaction

[unreal light]

some potential makes it triggered upon 2 times

So you just need to press your bs twice in order to get that sweet buff

[terse valley]

oh thats just great

[oak vigil]

It’s still doable with 3 EBS

Albeit you need some extra resources to make it work

[terse valley]

how big of an INT can she get

[unreal light]

That’s perfect as you need the two BS anyways to gain enough SP to build your teammates ultimates in default rotation

[unreal light]

636,363

I mean probably you may push it a bit higher, if you replace mainstat Agi with mainstat int on the body

[oak vigil]

Yeah it’s overall better if you go for int piece, it’s her second substat anyway and unless you are doing Arclight dps, she still will do some nice damage nonetheless

from the amount of combo skills and electrification consumption

[unreal light]

And if you use some fortmaker shit

[unreal light]

Yeah I’m doing Arclight dps, thus I accounted with Agi / int, not int solely

[terse valley]

cooking some bullshi

[edgy crater]

wulf?

[ashen scroll]

I can see its working

[terse valley]

i know i asked about arclight passive earlier but this team wont utilize that

[unreal light]

Wait no you cannot replace it

It’s not overall better an never will be

Just because frontiers armor gives you 13,5% substat

[oak vigil]

Uhhhhh, well damn, I actually forgot about it

[ashen scroll]

Is arclight essential ? U can swap her to antel and do wulf nuke

[unreal light]

Antal does not give sp

[wind nebula]

the biggest improvement you can make to any Arclight team...

is to remove Arclight

and I hate it

[terse valley]

[oak vigil]

It depends from case to case basis tbh.
In some cases Arclight is better, in some cases Antal is better

Antal is more of blunt straightaway buff with amp, while Arclight is a burst (and you can snowball it into constant) buff

Albeit Arclight is stuck solely to electric teams due to her EBS passive buff only buffing electric damage

(while Antal can also work in fire teams)

[wind nebula]

she doesn't compete with antal, she competes with Akekuri, which is made an even easier choice when Gilbertas around

[unreal light]

Have you got any calculations on the matter

This shit is just made up by iana

And iana doesn’t know how to build Arclight

They give her 207,6% ER

Lmao

[terse valley]

ive always thought arclight 3s cooldown combo was cool

[rare rover]

imagine if iana is reading this but not talking

[unreal light]

She needs 138 at p0 and 116 at p4

[ashen scroll]

I alwayswant to ask this since his name is on the pin and stuff , who is iana

[oak vigil]

Yeah! You can straight up chain it 3 times in a row like this

Also the constant stagger damage with this too

[unreal light]

Their name here is ON HOLIDAY

[ashen scroll]

Oh

[rare rover]

if u couldnt tell, it means they are probably on holiday

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[terse valley]

i still dont understand the stunted resources part

is it building up the passive?

[oak vigil]

not running sp regen - damage buff kit fully

yeah okay

[unreal light]

They give her 209,5% recharge, don’t pay your attention

[terse valley]

thats verdict is strictly for avy rotation right?

[wind nebula]

Arclight is waiting on an electric character that deals damage the way Laevetain does.

[terse valley]

shes waiting for an electric yvonne

[unreal light]

Yes this is a wrong verdict for strictly avy rotation

[elfin smelt]

@neon cave what's your rotation for the reception room if I may ask, and how often do you switch the ops

just curious cos I only have like one hour or two every day, might able to sneak in some minutes when Im on break

[wind nebula]

yeah that could work too. I'm mostly trying to get value out of her 15s electric buff and 4-stack electrification

[unreal light]

Their build contains around 430-450 int and 207 recharge

450 int is laughing matter

[wind nebula]

she has all these long duration buffs but the only electric team consolidates most of the damage into a single skill

[ashen scroll]

Wouldnt it funny if the green dragon actualy nature and not elec , since she green and stuff

[wind nebula]

part of why Link is so massive in Avywenna team

[unreal light]

That is far from truth

You deal damage with Avy Ult, then with Perlica Ult, then with Avy BS capturing the spears, and then with Avy Ult once again

Because you’ve recharged your ult with all the collected spears

It is atleast four buttons

If we’re not taking into consideration the fact that Perlica basic attacks deal more damage than avywennas

Just because her basic attacks are electric

[wind nebula]

If over 50% of the damage is dealt by the other three casts then you got me, but I don't think that's the case. you also forgot Perlica finisher

[unreal light]

There also goes all arts bursts with electric infliction, antal basics and the fact that Arclight does 405% electric damage on her skill which is a huge multiplier, alongside her ulti

[oak vigil]

I didn’t mean directly competing. I do agree that Antal steamrolls with amp and with susceptibility, but in some cases (some, not always) Arclight might be a better option, albeit in specific ones (mainly where Perlica is and only on Electric teams lol)

[unreal light]

Yeah, I specifically mentioned Perlica basic attacks for that case

[oak vigil]

Lowkey, what do you all think of if they add equipment kits which are able to apply arts inflictions (like on last M1 string with a 15 seconds cooldown), do you all think it will be useful?

A way to make switching operators actually useful or more planning

[elfin smelt]

like modules?

[oak vigil]

No like as in equipment bonus kits we have now

[ashen scroll]

Would be fun in a short time but it going to be hell for a while

[elfin smelt]

nah it's better to stick to buffs

art inflictions coming from equipments create unexpected shenanigans

[warm galleon]

The game already forces me to swap to yvon if I want to get one buff, and also force me when I use her ult.

[ashen scroll]

Ill just run solo laeva if that the case

[rich linden]

Ult gain laeva fixed my skill issues

:prayge:

[green acorn]

Perlica BS has similar multi's, stacks Electric infliction and doesn't eat Electrification though, same story with ult, no?

[velvet sphinx]

How good is Gilberta's sig vs Stanza or other options? Worth pulling?

[wind nebula]

I keep digging around looking for Electric sheets and I just can't find any publicly available calc sheets.

in the end I think the comparison is primarily between Arclight's Pdps, 4 stack electrocution and Wildland Trekker vs. 10% ATK, some level of corruption, rank 2 electrocution, Link, more SP

[proud vector]

corruption?

corrosion?

corrosion.

in theory one could arclightpdps for a segment to turbo out ults faster to meet certain windows for burst

[neon cave]

ardelia-estella-akekuri
switch with the ops with the least important base skills - (usually lower level control nexus or growth chamber)

i dont have a schedule to switch my ops since my daily schedule is kinda random, but i do try to make my best teams (including reception room team) rest when i know i wont be able to switch them out later

so lets say it's 6pm and i need to sleep at 10pm, even if i have 50~80% morale on ardelia-estella-akekuri, ill make them rest already with my best control nexus team (highest mood regen) so that i can switch them back to work with near full morale before i sleep since i dont know when ill open the game next the next day, theyll last as long as they possibly can and will likely not hit 0 morale until the next time i open the game

i have 22 ops tho, so im able to rest 6 ops (2 full cabin teams) at the same time

[neon cave]

when i check using my ops, it's a bit different too

[neon cave]

our 40-60 is the same

i cant check 1-20 lol

[wind nebula]

Ok, I can't make sheets but I CAN make this:

[unreal light]

Based

[wind nebula]

the sad part is perlica would be before the first electrocution, some other SP expenditure (or waiting for perlica combo again) would be before the second one and there'd have to be 3 sources of electric infliciton prior to her Ult to get that 4 stack

[unreal light]

Antal CS helps with that

It’s actually 5 inflictions prior the ult with Antal in team

I feel bad as if the fifth is overkill

However it makes the boss staggered

[wind nebula]

but then you don't have gilberta. maybe arclight is an ST only character

Antal feels like cheeks outside of bossing

[unreal light]

Maybe you’re right, I’m in the middle of accounting for Gilberta usage

[wind nebula]

in ake/gilb you have the free sp to spend on a thick corruption

[unreal light]

Cannot really say anything right now

[wind nebula]

and if you don't have arc's 4 stack electric, you still have an effective 2 stack electrocution with perlica potentials

[unreal light]

True

Poor rhodagn also doesn’t live past second rotation to make effective usage of corrosion

[wind nebula]

then there's the fact that as large as Wildland Trekker's numbers are, it's in the generic DMG bucket. dipping into resistance bucket with corruption and the Link bucket should be way stronger

[unreal light]

😢

[wind nebula]

yeah true

[unreal light]

I can’t imagine fights being as long as some Warcraft boss fights where you debuff enemy for 6-8 minutes straight

[buoyant yoke]

How much more % is link actually?

[oak vigil]

Tbh it depends, his combo skill damage scaling is HUGE + arts burst damage caused by him

20k-40k damage, you can almost instantly kill one of the mobs with his focus applied and cs triggered

[wind nebula]

30 for bskill, 20 for ult.

[unreal light]

20/30/40/50 ult
30/45/60/75 bs

That’s if you stack them

[oak vigil]

(albeit with a long cooldown)

[wind nebula]

Antal just feels like such overkill outside of big HP sponges

[unreal light]

The so called anal plox

[wind nebula]

he needs a passive that refunds SP when his focus target dies

[grand lagoon]

is that Arclight dps?

[oak vigil]

He already has that though? As one of his potentials

[unreal light]

That’s antal dps

[grand lagoon]

[oak vigil]

🎉 🎉 🎉

[grand lagoon]

[oak vigil]

(I am totally not biased lol)

[unreal light]

There is one

[wind nebula]

oh dude, only 15?

[grand lagoon]

thats... crit

[wind nebula]

you got me excited for nothing

[unreal light]

Yeah feels miserable

[oak vigil]

yeaaaah

[grand lagoon]

how much is that crit % anyway? 20-30%?

[oak vigil]

Without critting his damage on stagger is like 300k-400k if all buffs are applied properly in the cycle

• damage from Perlica sub dps and Arclight dub dps separately

[grand lagoon]

thats erally good tho, at that point of max investment, how much perlica deals? also arclight also avywenna

[unreal light]

& Gilb sub dps

[grand lagoon]

wanna see the number and their contribution

[oak vigil]

EEEHH, Gilby gets like 50%~ damage buffs from Antal DPS team, more like a buffer

[unreal light]

Perlica ultimate alone pwns this number

[oak vigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1461539565499187251/1475197342331310322/Endfield_2026-02-22_20-21-03.mp4?ex=69a33396&is=69a1e216&hm=c1ea2cc22404315a7268127c84e86f5de689dacdc73bbf3090548efa1eb577b2& example

You can skip to 1:10 to see Perlica and Antal damage

[unreal light]

Perlica no oblivion

Antal yes oblivion

[grand lagoon]

i thought its avywenna team where everyone is fully lvled and they all deal GOOD amount of damage

[oak vigil]

201k from Perlica and 347k from Antal

Antal could have dealt even more damage if I was not so trigger happy with his CS (my buffs from 2 arts reactions equipment and from Oblivion’s cs damage buff ran out before stagger)

[unreal light]

Perl deto?

[oak vigil]

Antal Oblivion and Perlica with her signature

to buff when applying electrification

[unreal light]

Her sig is oblivion

[grand lagoon]

quick question guys, does akekuri with frontiers or eternal set better?
it feels like
more damage buff, more int vs more ult regen (and since other teammates already have eternal)

[unreal light]

[oak vigil]

Wait really??? I thought it was wild wanderer

[buoyant yoke]

Where perlica bs before gibby ult for corrosion?

[unreal light]

It depends on the amount of energy you need for your rotation

[oak vigil]

I instead went for Gilby’s ult and then Perlica’s bs to trigger buff from electrification from Wild Wanderer (also electrification damage scaling), to trigger Arclight’s CS and Gilby’s CS

[grand lagoon]

its for laev team with ardelia, looks like double eternal is better? i saw other rotation where laev and akekuri can ult together again next rotation

but seems really far if using frontier

[oak vigil]

If the other way around, Gilby’s susceptibility runs out before I can trigger everything

[wind nebula]

bro heard role consolidation and said "hold my Oblivion"

[unreal light]

I can’t say much about Laev, I supposed everyone would calculate her, so I do more niche teams 😢

[wind nebula]

it's fascinating that with where content is tuned right now you can legitimately decide to turn your supports into DPS and get away with it by fitting more supports into the team

[unreal light]

I mean it’s the same for every gacha

You just throw supports that benefit your character

And it becomes main dps

[oak vigil]

Yeah

Albeit going to be very tricky currently to do the same of Xaihi

[wind nebula]

seems rare to me to be able to turn characters that aren't designed to deal damage into damage dealers that can actually clear content

[unreal light]

In genshin anyone can deal damage

In hsr it’s the same, you could easily play some Pela main DPS

[wind nebula]

compare it to Flourite. She's designed to deal damage, she just has copium teams and is outshined by 6 star DPS (understandably so).

Antal's role is support, most of his skills have no MV at all.

the latter being turned into a competent source of damage is what I find impressive. at least relative to the content available

[oak vigil]

What I like is you don’t necessarily need to focus on the main role. It’s the same thing if I build Arclight or Pogranichnik as dps (they are supposed to be batteries, but can be built as damage dealers)

It’s more of a suggestion/recommendation

ironically enough

[elfin smelt]

with enough supports even your support can deal dmg

[oak vigil]

WELL OKAY, there are some exceptions like that you can’t build LR as support lool, but you get my point

Greatswords just don’t have support capabilities currently

[unreal light]

Pog has great aoe dps, however his single target is not so good, as his main damage source, CS has a long cooldown and prep

If you need to kill some group of 100k hp thugs, he’s great

[elfin smelt]

healing ember's crying in the corner

[oak vigil]

KEYWORD HEAAAAALING, NOT DAMAGE BUFF FOR THE TEAM

GRAAAAH

[elfin smelt]

HER 10% ATTACK BUFF IS LOCKED BEHIND P5 RAHHHH

[unreal light]

Reminds me of c6 qiqi

To get a nice value of the worst legendary character, you had to roll for her the max amount of copies

[elfin smelt]

well at least all standards we have dont feel bad to use

[wind nebula]

if you solve Arclight DPS please tell me. I keep trying to cook something that feels good and it always winds up as Perlica/Alesh/???? and is still mega cope.

can't 4th slot ardelia for both susc because then alesh ult is the only way to trigger extra electrocutions.

Akekuri can help trigger electrocutions and fuel Arc's greedy gymnastics but Arclight doesn't have great burst to use with Link.

Gilberta can do corruption but now you're juggling reactions and again, you're stuck with short duration buffs/debuffs that arclight has trouble using well

[oak vigil]

I am already confused about Alesh part

[wind nebula]

his combo triggers on every consumption if you find ways to spam electrocution. the timing is basically perfect

[oak vigil]

OH RIGHT, I forgot that Arclight’s cs triggers not only from her own consumption

[wind nebula]

well... sure but this is about Arclight triggering his combo

[oak vigil]

My idea of Arclight dps so far is:

Arclight/Perlica/Akekuri/???

Perlica - Essential

Akekuri - even more sp regen and also arts infliction for electrification starter to trigger with Perlica’s bs

Not sure about 4th member tho

[wind nebula]

if you go that route, I'd try stanza Ardelia as your 4th and perlica with WIld wanderer

[unreal light]

Or stanza Gilberta

[gritty briar]

Is arclight and perlica the only forced electrification?

[unreal light]

Yes

[oak vigil]

Eeeeh I am not sure about Gilberta, her susceptibility has too small of a duration for Arclight

[wind nebula]

I shy away from gilb on theoretical Arclight DPS because she deals damage over long periods, rather than short bursts

[oak vigil]

^

[wind nebula]

it is pretty big Susc though

[unreal light]

I mean her damage is highly separated

[gritty briar]

Is Antal a consideration?

[unreal light]

BA, CS and 1-2 BS hits are phys

[oak vigil]

I feel like Ardelia fits the most then, since you are going to keep on triggering arts reactions and clearing out arts infliction this way (also extra consumption from Ardelia to trigger CS)

[unreal light]

And 3rd BS hit and Ult are electro

[wind nebula]

also Ardelia gives phys susc for the 50% ish MV of arclight's that's physical. (why I suggested Wild Wanderer for Perli)

[gritty briar]

wait her combo skill is phys?

wtf

[unreal light]

Yeah

[oak vigil]

Okay yeah, then it’s Arclight/Perlica/Akekuri/Ardelia

Glad I have like 2 fully built characters in this team already

[wind nebula]

unless you aren't controlling her and if you're not controlling her, just play a real team. if you're gonna turn your fav into a DPS, do it right imo

[eternal ruin]

seeing p0 laevatains with single slabs is making me crash out

[wind nebula]

but yeah, I roughly estimated that assuming 2 arclight skill sequences per Ult, it's about a 50-50 split on her MV if you're controlling her

probably even more phys if you use her finisher as well

[gritty briar]

has anyone ever done arclight dps?

surely someone must've attempted it

[wind nebula]

speaking of finishers, Arclight teams other problem is stagger. the only thing that makes me consider gilberta for 4th slot

[gritty briar]

after hearing about this arclight alesh synergy, I'm now thinking about how vanguardknights would work

would still be pretty horrible

[wind nebula]

oh it's a meme for sure. but it's fun to push all those buttons

[gaunt mason]

there’s a guy on bilibili that’s done all three trims with arclight mdps

lemme look it up

[wind nebula]

and piloting her is technically the worst thing you can do. she spends so much time animating that your sp and stagger get a sizable increase by piloting perlica instead

[gaunt mason]

【【终末地】弧光单C 白垩界卫镀层-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/BccnHB6

[gritty briar]

There seems to be some animation cancels you an do with her basics

not sure how much time they save

[wind nebula]

yeah, the spin and the backstep

[wind nebula]

it won't load whyyyyyyyy

oh shi-, it's your team my guy

[chilly bolt]

people doing arclight propaganda now?

[potent hornet]

so do i unlock level 90 for Laev to start working on her team or do i unlock Xaihi so i can m3 her ult

[wind nebula]

haha I hope not. for my part I'm just indulging in the fantasy of her being as strong as she is cool

[potent hornet]

to be honest with how easy the content is arclight dps is viable

[gaunt mason]

if you need more you can search up 弧光主c

i’ve seen teams with alesh instead of ake too

[potent hornet]

but i think she is missing some support stuff that keeps her from being outstanding

with how fast she can build ult and sp if we could get some crit dmg on her i think she would be great

[wind nebula]

yeah she can already maintain 5 stacks of MI security when you control her

[potent hornet]

sadly we don't really have anything as far as fights go that expect us to be running through a ton of rotations atm.

its kinda in the realm of big boom clears in half a minute

atm

[neon cave]

holee i didnt realizee sanity regen is 7mins 12s (432 seconds) instead of 6mmins

[potent hornet]

yea its slowwww

something like 33-34 hours for me right now to fill sanity

not sure why max sanity isn't geared for full in 24hrs

[gritty briar]

yeah it's exactly 200 sanity per 24 hours

and you get 40 per day from daily mission so it's 240 per day

280 if you buy monthlies

[neon cave]

i dont mind that it takes more than 24 hours to fill, it gives more casual players more leeway (a lot of other stuff ingame take 2~4days to fully refill)

[potent hornet]

yea even if you invest in the pass you can't expect full sanity in a 24 hour period. seems wrong

[gritty briar]

i prefer to look at it like we just have a really high cap instead of thinking about it as slow regen

[neon cave]

same

[potent hornet]

they should have an overflow that would turn every 40 over cap into a 3 day sanity booster

[gritty briar]

they wouldn't because they wanna monetize these things

[potent hornet]

they are only in the pass atm

i used and went through all of mine already 🙁

gotta wait for the new pass

[neon cave]

it's only about 2.5~3 stages a day

[gritty briar]

it's easy enough to burn through sanity quickly

[neon cave]

considering how long other dailies take

[potent hornet]

like if this was multiplayer mmo type setting i get it

but its single player, you don't really "get behind"

[neon cave]

it should really be more of how much materials can we get per day

[gritty briar]

yeah the paid pass
they want to incentivize you buying it

to stash your sanity

[potent hornet]

i mean if they slashed the sanity costs in half then i would probably be fine with what we get

it feels like i'm always sucking on the straw of an empty drink in the hopes i get one more small taste of the drink

[main nova]

exactly

[neon cave]

isnt that cuz wee have the time to suck everything dry

[main nova]

im practically having fun only by making stupid design factory

[potent hornet]

you can drop 300 sanity in like 30 minutes

[main nova]

like shapping them like a D

Wuling is hard to shape since those pipe is not well good looking material

[outer ermine]

@edgy crater @frozen tide yea cs alone isnt enough, its the only crit this run i think so ill see which needs to crit

[potent hornet]

still don't know what i should do. Unlock level 90 on Xaihi and get the last bit of dmg out of her ult amp for my LR orrrrr unlock lvl 90 on Laev and start building her team?

[oak vigil]

You need more “___” mat!

Spends all of the sanity on that in 10 minutes, now enough mats
You need more credits-

[potent hornet]

yuuup

[potent hornet]

you trying to get the 1 phase?

i'm about in the same spot

[outer ermine]

sub9

[potent hornet]

posted my video yesterday

[normal tangle]

this seems like purely a good thing

idk what this is on about

[midnight stirrup]

You dont need a second team rn so Laev can wait. Finish ur LR stuff

[normal tangle]

sometimes people (me) can only log in the previous morning and then the next night

either way you get a total of 240/d

[outer ermine]

its still within range

[normal tangle]

reducing cap only serves to be harmful for no reason

[midnight stirrup]

Ew Hifumi

180k

You fell off

[outer ermine]

pepper give me ur luck smh

[potent hornet]

not saying the cap should be reduced

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-cat-wizard-cat-wizard-cat-by-demonwolf-gif-1340145854316931196

Done

[outer ermine]

bro its literally the only thing that crit this run game loves me

[potent hornet]

is that the combo strike dmg?

[midnight stirrup]

Look at the HP

[potent hornet]

yea what combo of stuff is that including because i only see the 181k and 9k

[midnight stirrup]

Its bugged probably

He did over 1m

[potent hornet]

gotcha

[midnight stirrup]

180k is not that big of a bar on Rhod lol

[edgy crater]

need to crit bs for sure

[potent hornet]

this is why i was confused

[edgy crater]

dats like 120k-ish?

[normal tangle]

then i lowkey don’r know what you’re advocating

[oak vigil]

Actually wait, new plan

Arclight/Perlica/Akekuri/Alesh with OBJ

[normal tangle]

faster regen?

[outer ermine]

cs dmg is in next frame, hp moves b4 dmg shows up

its the 1.3m

[potent hornet]

i was saying that its weird that the sanity isn't geared to fill to the cap within a 24 hour period

[midnight stirrup]

1.3 million macaronis

[potent hornet]

gotcha

[outer ermine]

gonna write down all my big dmgs and see

[normal tangle]

yeah that’s what i was talking about here #theorycrafting message

it’s just more forgiving to people with inconsistent schedules

[outer ermine]

ard needs to crit or prob a few mirage

[potent hornet]

you eating ginsing on everyone?

[normal tangle]

same idea with the emergency sanity boosters instead of just immediate +stamina

[outer ermine]

jakubs lr
ginseng ard

[normal tangle]

catering to lowest common denominator possible

[midnight stirrup]

Hifumi

[potent hornet]

you doing the tidal gear build or are you running something else?

[outer ermine]

w my current success rate on iframes its not worth wasting my ginseng lol

[midnight stirrup]

Do you hit higher with perl ard than gilb ard

[outer ermine]

gil ard, if just dmg wise

perlica ard is just faster

yinlung

[midnight stirrup]

So gil ard is overall

Perl ard is combo nuke

[edgy crater]

btw hifu, did ur perlica crit?

or gonan go 1 jacub 3 gingseng

[echo cove]

Why 1 jacub?

[midnight stirrup]

Dps jacub rest gingseng

[oak vigil]

I hate the fact that I am actually starting to like Alesh because of this

oh my hod

I mean he is a decent character, like a nothing burger mostly in terms of a character for me

Maybe when I get his docs from trust my opinion will change

[outer ermine]

nope

only xai cs crit

which is uh

[midnight stirrup]

Shes trying her best

[outer ermine]

how much hp on this mf again

[edgy crater]

2m?

[outer ermine]

lr fs 19784
perlica ult 16382
lr bs 69495
lr bs 69495
xaihi cs 21191(c)
33134
ard cs 5300+24427
ard bs 84505
181905
lr cs 77358+1348991(c)

so lr cs+ard bs is required

[edgy crater]

w8, whats ur perlica weap again?

lvl 1 stanza?

[outer ermine]

all 90 p5

[edgy crater]

its still pulse isnt?

[outer ermine]

yeah, i dont believe in perlica dmg rn, if doing duo dps then ard has to be the diff maker cuz lr cant squueze more

i only have combo% finished on yinglung rn

[edgy crater]

cause even mine perlica crit 69k, shes on p5p4 80/80

like dats way to low

[outer ermine]

w electrocution?

[edgy crater]

yeah

w8, let me retest it

[outer ermine]

oh yea i cant apply that until later she does dmg but i cant give her what she wants

[edgy crater]

kek yeah

[outer ermine]

i could pump for bskill% here tho

but thatll be next week im out of catalyst

other lr should be my competition but i wanna fuck that sub10 yvonne time up

[edgy crater]

max hotworks like 50%?

[outer ermine]

even w my current artif on yin its still better than my tide so

[potent hornet]

wait, if you are doing dmg ard what weapon are you using?

[outer ermine]

idk whats +3 hotworks; 82.8% unartificed 2 kits

starry

[potent hornet]

sounds right

[outer ermine]

lemme actually show recording

[potent hornet]

that would be helpful, i'm not quite at your level yet lol, i think i have seen 800k final hit on ult

crit

my supports need to be raised a bit as well

[outer ermine]

smh streamable yt private it is

[potent hornet]

yea i have just been doing unlisted youtubes

[outer ermine]

https://youtu.be/zSqaogxIP04

[potent hornet]

i also can't seem to pull my last Xaihi for p5 🙁

ohhhh nice starry swap for the int

wait

wouldn't the first hit of LR ult finish him off?

within the 9seconds

or does he phase before it can get out

or is the goal to get it on the combo shot

[outer ermine]

he'll die, personal timer counts ult anim thats like +3s b4 the 1st hit

not until hp shows up its started, from there everything on screen is timed

sub9 has to be cs kill, w/o needing mirage

[potent hornet]

gotcha

and you are working with 5% crit with jakubs up?

[eternal ruin]

phys noob here: who should be the on-field operator in most cases for endmin crush? chen?

[odd wren]

Depends on your preference

[wind nebula]

Ember

[odd wren]

But most people use chen/pog

[drifting berry]

Question, how does Shatter (Estella/Alesh/Chen/Endmin) compare to the Pog/Lifeng/Chen/Endmin team. Is the second team better or is just a sidegrade?

[odd wren]

I just did 55 seconds clear with my nonophys team, i think if i will use food on everyone can go lower i guess.

[outer ermine]

yea, im 19/77 on actually doing the skip so i need the stars and planets to align in the first place to even get to critfishing

[odd wren]

You do less crush damage with shatter.

Meanwhile here's a sample of crush damage with the mono phys team

[unreal light]

Chen or endmin. Pick whoever you like the most, with Chen being a slightly bit better

[odd wren]

You get more debuffs on enemy + buffs on your endmin with chen lifeng pog

[potent hornet]

is there a reason you switch to perlica instead of lining the team to go straight to Xaihi

[unreal light]

https://tenor.com/view/extended-mag-shotgun-gaming-reload-gif-21067761

[odd wren]

[drifting berry]

idk why I'm even asking, whenever tangtang is physical or cryo I see her getting added to physical teams. Hope we also get some number on march 1st livestream

[outer ermine]

xai fs isnt projectile so if theres switching inconsistencies in the beginning then xai can miss her ba

[potent hornet]

ahh gotcha

[unreal light]

I just hope she replaces endmin

[drifting berry]

Is just that I don't want to invest on Lifeng, also I don't have his weapon and 4* are ugly

[unreal light]

So my ChenTang thrives

[odd wren]

Oi!

[unreal light]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-tangtang-wuling-jump-gif-5889053850376434839

[odd wren]

Why would you replace me?!?!

[drifting berry]

wym, it needs to be tang/chen/endmin

[outer ermine]

also ai skill issue, perlica is by far the mf that gets caught the most on the jump. and shes my visual cue for swapiframe

[unreal light]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461535111223967764/1468155748197601323/chen-endfield.gif

[outer ermine]

she'll also still be in dash anim when i swap out so it helps her a bit

[odd wren]

Real question is will tangtang be a main dps or support for phys team nevertheless id still go endmin

If tangtang cannot do vul stacking then she lame

[static pewter]

Tangtang chen endmin perlica comp

[drifting berry]

I will stock pile on Wulling bucks and just hope for the best. Probably can only pull for 1 character regardless and depending on that I will build my 3rd team.

Hope they add a 2 teams game mode

[main nova]

i prefer corossion

[drifting berry]

my laev has being benched for a long time

[main nova]

since its kinda synergy with both Pengmin and Chen being Vanguard too so my ultimate rotation quite fast

[odd wren]

Yeah coz you can do more

[main nova]

the damage not impressive tho

[odd wren]

If you want nuke damage

[main nova]

same i did leav until like lvl 80

[static pewter]

Corssion you say

[main nova]

but heat team dont have CC so the enemies tend to fough back

the other option in heat team is using amber to knockdown but she kinda horible to use in heat team, at least for me

[odd wren]

One day i can surpass that using mono phys xd

[static pewter]

[main nova]

[odd wren]

I just need another phys that can do buff or something

That can replace chen vuln stacking

[static pewter]

Trust tangtang gives crush taken dmg debuff on enemies

[midnight stirrup]

I dont think Chen is getting replaced anytime soon

[odd wren]

Man i hope so

[odd wren]

[outer ermine]

3 stack moment fuckin hell

[static pewter]

Better chen

[odd wren]

Hiragi i'll dm you something

[main nova]

if somehow we got better wulfgard i think i will play heat

[static pewter]

Aight

[midnight stirrup]

Its already better Chen

[warm galleon]

Chen's mother duuhh

[chilly bolt]

rip 4th stack

[warm galleon]

If you use controller on android you can hold L1 and you won't miss basic attack while loading skill

[odd wren]

I hope we get sets that gives more crush damage or apply crush dmg increase to enemies

[warm galleon]

Ohhh i forgor you tap attack 4 times for one slash nvm

[chilly bolt]

just dont use yinglung ez

[edgy crater]

nvm

[outer ermine]

double knife?

[chilly bolt]

yeah hnaf did a run 4p yinglung for combo dmg

[outer ermine]

NOO

[edgy crater]

its a test run anyway

yeah i know

[chilly bolt]

idk if that's better than 3p tide + bone

[outer ermine]

2 iframes in a row gib me a moment its my arc i think

[bold rose]

which to open with in Yvonne rotation
Xaihi bskill or Gilb bskill

[outer ermine]

hnaf i might be doing too dmg on tide lmao, ard crit literally sends me to phase2

[edgy crater]

what da hell

[outer ermine]

the starry swap is backfiring on it

[edgy crater]

is it from ardel crit too?

[potent hornet]

yea that line to his phase 2 is pretty thin you only have so much dmgvs stagger you can fit in

[outer ermine]

im somehow critting on every mirage and ard skill i cant test properly

it pushes too much

i dont make the node until lr cs too so

lmao

forced to run yin b4 i even knew it damn

[edgy crater]

same result if u holding deto instead chiv?

[main nova]

more sr added means more diluted gacha, better try gamble p5 your chen as soon as possible

[outer ermine]

det tide but cutscene on cs

that usually means 9s+ but ill check

[olive mauve]

okay bro

[outer ermine]

8.4????

[midnight stirrup]

Totally the channel for this

[outer ermine]

what

[olive mauve]

yes.

jk

mb

[outer ermine]

bro if that shit crits i just kill even on black screen

[edgy crater]

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/bosnov-67-bosnov-67-67-meme-gif-16727368109953357722

[olive mauve]

NO

[edgy crater]

8.4s?

[olive mauve]

[midnight stirrup]

Hifumi stop flexing

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-meme-arknights-wtf-endfield-wtf-gif-1386848441340081198

[outer ermine]

well damn lemme see chiv too

chivtide

and i crit 1 mirage but lemme double check

[edgy crater]

dats not cs crit isn't

[chilly bolt]

chivalric?

[edgy crater]

ye

[chilly bolt]

why not deto

[outer ermine]

wait i may have forgot to move my time on last run

[edgy crater]

daheck

[outer ermine]

that chiv run is 9s on dog

t

[edgy crater]

oh rip

[gritty olive]

just accept that its an inevitablity

ill post later my d18 is5 ed245 run with SUH2A, four 6*

if i can do it

[edgy crater]

is it same with detotide?

[outer ermine]

det tide... yeah doing more dmg is slower cuz of cutscene lag

omg im stuck critfishing its confirmed and tested this time

[edgy crater]

weekend crit fishing

[chilly bolt]

real

[outer ermine]

helppp

still have the whole day ig

[edgy crater]

hifu losing his mind

[outer ermine]

i crit on bonus like 2 times today btw i started like 11:15am its 4am

thats some yz luck right there

on a run that mattered*

last few weeks was testing so it was fine but actually crit fishing now is

[edgy crater]

u need to fish on cs isnt?

[outer ermine]

cs and ard bs. then mirage or burst i already forgor

im just praying to gods atp

[edgy crater]

damn

[river scroll]

Bro want to hear something cursed about LR crit fishing?

[edgy crater]

[outer ermine]

• @outer ermine

if its abt base vs bonus no

[outer ermine]

buff uptime

det and chiv are equal in %bonus so w uptime chiv wins out

ask schling i have the sheet calc but idk if i can share

[chilly bolt]

Oh the atk% from chiv is equal to both dmg% and int from deto unit ? Damn

[warm galleon]

You have max int deto?

[drifting quest]

depends

both can be better

[honest hill]

If perlica using stanza that would be bad

[drifting quest]

if you dont have dps perlica levels of investment AND a use case for her then its what you want to be putting on her anyway (assuming non electric team)

[honest hill]

Would she have to be on oblivion if xaihi on chiv

[drifting quest]

no

[honest hill]

Deto?

[drifting quest]

chiv stanza double up is one such factor that could influence which is better between deto and chiv

[chilly bolt]

Just stanza? Or that doesn't work with chiv

[drifting quest]

but using one or the other doesnt make stanza unusable

[chilly bolt]

It's 2 atk% vs 1 atk% + dmg% (and little int bonus)

[honest hill]

Yeah who would win

[chilly bolt]

me too dumb to do math

[honest hill]

I feel like it's the 2nd one

[drifting quest]

depends ™

[honest hill]

Depends on what tho

[summer flower]

so what gear probably for solo ember?

[neon knot]

okay but like hear me out... this is really funny for farming lol

[drifting quest]

full team
respective gear, weapons, level of investment

[drifting quest]

its situationally the strongest build

nothing new

[neon knot]

i always start every farming run with like 0 energy cause of how laevatine's ult works

[honest hill]

What if perlica was minimum investment w gold gears

[drifting quest]

ok and the rest

[summer flower]

if sub dps or dps perlica minimum investment is purple gear

[drifting quest]

please stop with this dogshit misinfo stuff

its just annoying atp

[honest hill]

no purple gold gear

[summer flower]

0 artificing ususally purple gear is better dmg

[warm galleon]

I'll call max stanza perlica a fully built perlica

[summer flower]

for dps role only

and its squishy

i think single articied max stat slab changes it out of that

also dependent on weapon

[terse valley]

chat is this real

[honest hill]

xaihi M3 ult max artificed gear for int and sec attr + chiv/deto
Last Rite Krav max artificed with Frontier for ult dmg bonus M6

[drifting quest]

no

[honest hill]

Also Ardelia w sig

[drifting quest]

it's extremely generalised because of one incredibly niche scenario that isn't even practical

[summer flower]

people were completly skipping purple according to advice, also articing defiently makes gold better

[honest hill]

[honest hill]

I will one day build her when my avy is P5

[drifting quest]

which is entirely unrelated to what you had said previously

[honest hill]

She is just being used to buff w stanza/deto + electrification debuff

[drifting quest]

which is that at 0 artificing purple gear > gold gear

which is not true

at all

and you should know this

[unreal light]

Her own damage is quite decent

[terse valley]

i would very much like to see the numbers

[honest hill]

Yeah but I'd have to level her weapon

I would level deto once I get P5 avy

She's been dodging me

[odd wren]

@unreal light btw i want to ask something for speedrun endmin

Swordmancer or aether or bone krusha?

[unreal light]

Damn

Def not SM

I mean it’s great but you can proc it only once

[odd wren]

I did a 55 second run earlier but it was a bad run

That was just doing 4-4 vul rot

[green cipher]

Ts is so slow

[gritty olive]

5%

[green cipher]

But fun but relying on getting hit is ahh

[green cipher]

Just wis it bro

Spam king relics

Oh wait yhats IS6 right

[odd wren]

Check this, but this is aether, i did a non stagger crush at the end for 719k

[green cipher]

[gritty olive]

not having wiadel is key

since shes just a nuisance for this strat

and this is is5

[green cipher]

Oh yeah

[drifting quest]

SM is an option if you need the stagger but it's unlikely
Aether doesn't even proc so it's just 8% atk steroid
BK is not only 15% atk steroid but also a 30% damage buff for your single skill cast

[green cipher]

So yeah eother wis it

Trag it

Or it

[drifting quest]

maybe you can get a second in but depends on combo timing for if bonekrusha offer anything

[green cipher]

Hear me out

M1

[odd wren]

I mean i just went for aether for the arts intensity so the set effect was just a bonus

[green cipher]

25% atk buff

[honest hill]

wtf 711k

[unreal light]

I mean you probably could try with bonekrusha mask, that gives bonus damage against staggered

[odd wren]

My arts atm is 263 with it

[unreal light]

But I’m unsure whether it’s worth giving up your Arts

[unreal light]

30% damage buff for a skill is nothing, as the main source of damage is crushed

[odd wren]

Correction 719k non stagger crush

[unreal light]

😭 😭 😭

[odd wren]

I have this tho

[honest hill]

That's insane is ur endmin wep P0

That's disgusting

[honest hill]

Nvm

[odd wren]

If i will use ardelia corrosion + susc i can do 2m+ crit on stagger

If im gonna be crit malding

[honest hill]

is ur pog using thermite

At what pot

[green cipher]

Thermite better

[honest hill]

doesn't thermite beat it

[odd wren]

My thermite p0

[gritty olive]

tragodia has a hand, so hes also a burden

[green cipher]

Um duh? 💳

[honest hill]

I think you can do way way more w thermite P5

[chilly bolt]

I wonder how much of a difference is endmin with and without gv

[odd wren]

Waiting for next banner

[green cipher]

What run are ya trying to do rn im just farming pts for 150 at diff 10

[gritty olive]

is5 ed245 d18

with SUH2A + m3 core

silverash + ulpianus + hoederer + 2 agents(surfer cantabile) +

[odd wren]

But i did some tests with this one at my current endmin gear setup never rest did better

Well at p5

[honest hill]

Well it is P5 so it's an unfair comparison

but thermite w equal pots will win

[odd wren]

Yes of course

[honest hill]

But I wonder how much

[gritty olive]

• 

[odd wren]

I think @unreal light did a calculation on this

[gritty olive]

mlynar is the fourth guard youd draft

[green cipher]

Hoe

I wish I have monstr

In sakiko I trust

[unreal light]

There it is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1087I104N1tEpgFvth8XICy1RUAvZ7En_Lz4Y01dOJgU/edit?usp=drivesdk

[odd wren]

Welp once i get thermite copies i'll change for sure

UNLESS

THEY REBALANCE NEVER REST

[honest hill]

They won't lol

[gritty olive]

AHAHAHAHAHA KINGS CROWN FROM CADENCE

I LOVE YOU

[drifting quest]

i mean just see what tomorrow brings

[rich bay]

Never rest wouldn't even be that bad if the team buff portion wasn't so abysmal

Idk how they fcked that up

[drifting quest]

worried about dps pog also being a good buffer

but dps pog isnt good

which they probably didnt account for

[odd wren]

That's why they need to do rebalancing

[rich bay]

^^

[drifting quest]

i wouldnt say so

never rest can become bis if a future dps payoff is saturated in atk%

[odd wren]

[chilly bolt]

What's this about

[rich bay]

If your support character has a dps signature weapon it needs rebalanced or tweaked. cough cough Zhongli

[unreal light]

The difference between never rest and thermite buff for endmin and sundering Chen

[honest hill]

Can't they just make it instead of half for team it's like 75%

[unreal light]

For endmin NR is 4% weaker, for Chen 4% stronger

[chilly bolt]

Damn chen buff

[edgy crater]

w8 endmin using NR?

[honest hill]

No pog

pog is buffing w those weps

[edgy crater]

oh

[honest hill]

He saying the NR buff will be 4% weaker for endmin but for Chen it's 4% stronger

[edgy crater]

ok2

[odd wren]

this was both at p0 right?

[edgy crater]

hmm, doesn't dat mean its possible to run pog NR if u wanna all in on chen?

[honest hill]

Yeah

[unreal light]

Yes

[rich bay]

If you're a chen main, ye

[unreal light]

Yes

[odd wren]

[edgy crater]

damn NR comeback

[odd wren]

I wonder if p5 nr vs th

[unreal light]

I do that

I also feed pog his own stacks

[rich bay]

I read that last part as sacks.....

I need sleep

[drifting quest]

'if you want to ignore 60% of team dps to buff 30%' then yes you can

[unreal light]

Share your made up calculations right now

[edgy crater]

ok dats hurt lol

[drifting quest]

it's from iana's

take it up with them if you have issue

[unreal light]

Share ianas calculations?

Lmao

[drifting quest]

i havent done personal calcs for phys

again take it up with them i dont have their calcs

[unreal light]

Then don’t say of it, if you have zero proofs on the point

[drifting quest]

?

[unreal light]

?

Oh sorry you just referred to a made up number backed by none

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461535111223967764/1469085353213169855/2026-02-05_224002.gif

[drifting quest]

yeah fuck the entire tc community i guess!

[rich bay]

This server needs a popcorn emoji fr

[drifting quest]

they dont know shit!

[unreal light]

Bro is defending iana

[drifting quest]

here's a sheet with no rotation no full team calcs just single multiplier napkin math

lets go with that instead

you cannot be serious

[unreal light]

209,5% recharge Arclight, allow me to introduce

[paper sand]

wait so iana guide is pinned but isnt a good source?

[unreal light]

They believe Alesh fishing chance is 10%

[drifting quest]

their doc has hyperbolic statements in it yes

that's their choice to add

[unreal light]

Where are the full team calculations by iana again?

[drifting quest]

ask them for it

they have a doc they've just not shared it

for reasons they've explained before

[odd wren]

[rich bay]

I aint getting involved in this like genuinely, but did they deadazz? Like fr ignored his passive?.....

[drifting quest]

they've posted screenshots of the doc

you can go search for it

[unreal light]

You haven’t seen a doc yet you blindly follow all their words

[rich bay]

Want some popcorn? 🍿

[unreal light]

That’s a one way to do theorycrafting

[terse valley]

hyperbole? in MY factual guide sheet?

[drifting quest]

yes because they have a history of good content, ive discussed things with them and ive seen the screenshots

[odd wren]

[drifting quest]

forgive me for trusting someone who has shown themself to be reliable

i will never trust again

[rich bay]

Cheers!, now time to go back in lurking🍿

[unreal light]

The so called good content

[drifting quest]

whats your issue with the build

do you know why its used

what its doing

what alternatives do you want

[unreal light]

The girl needs 16% recharge

Let’s feed her 109,5, give her 430 int instead of 640c and claim her buff is not enough

[drifting quest]

if you want to bitch at least back it up

16% for what

what rotation

what team

what tradeoff

[terse valley]

🍿

[drifting quest]

as you would have said yourself

where's the sheet

please

[odd wren]

[storm oar]

What set does Gilberta use

the standard support set?

Tidal surge

[drifting quest]

Has several

[unreal light]

here's the iana build, 436 x 0,104 = 45% bonus damage

This is the rotation, pay your attention to when arclight energy caps

with said build

[honest hill]

You would have to check the spreadsheet for that pinned in #team-build

[drifting quest]

This is an entirely different rotation to the baseline assumed

[unreal light]

The baseline does not proc her BS twice to consume Perlica’s electrification, in order to get the buff?

[drifting quest]

The baseline is maintaining 4 stack corrosion

From gilberta

And reshuffles the entire thing around that

Differs per perlica build

[unreal light]

You don’t seem to answer

[drifting quest]

Per content and avy spear stack

[unreal light]

You still don’t seem to answer

[odd wren]

@rich bay

[drifting quest]

Answer what

[unreal light]

The baseline does not proc her BS twice to consume Perlica’s electrification, in order to get the buff?

[edgy crater]

baiter lmao

[odd wren]

What

[edgy crater]

hes

[odd wren]

[edgy crater]

basically saying frontier tube doesn't give int to alesh n xaihi

[drifting quest]

as i said it differs per setup, per content as to when and how often you proc talent

[rich bay]

👀

[drifting quest]

there's a whole reason akekuri is so favoured for avywenna

[odd wren]

[drifting quest]

is because of how awkward it can be to implement proper arclight uptime

[unreal light]

Yeah, the reason being iana build with 209 recharge and 400 int

[drifting quest]

???????

[edgy crater]

or rather, shuo u know what the highest int alesh can get? is it around 587?

[drifting quest]

bit higher i think

[unreal light]

??????

[drifting quest]

but it's usually with a trade off that isnt worth it

[edgy crater]

frontier?

[unreal light]

You claimed there is some baseline, and you cannot say whether they use Arclight talent or not

[drifting quest]

you disregard anything you dont want to believe in and then act shocked when im confused

[edgy crater]

or just using xaihi genius build

[drifting quest]

baseline team, not baseline rotation

[unreal light]

You don’t have any argument, thus try attacking me ok yeah

[drifting quest]

maybe thats my bad i forgot how i worded it

[drifting quest]

what have you been doing the entire time??????

again

i treat everything seriously

so perhaps its my bad for not knowing if this is genuine or bait

i apologise if i appear hostile as a result

[unreal light]

Okay let’s calm down

I’m not trying to bait you or something, cause otherwise I would not spend my time creating the timelines, or checking the builds

It is what it is, you need Arclight to use her BS twice, consuming electrification

To gain her buff

It takes 30-35 seconds on average

[drifting quest]

some timelines in some content, if forcing arclight, forgo proc'ing the buff consistently

especially since you only want it for the avy nuke

you dont care as much during stacking period

[unreal light]

It’s not only avy

You also have perl

[drifting quest]

perlica dps stuff is awkward

since if its like umbral

they can drop avy anyway

[unreal light]

You’re doing very radical statements

Like black and white, nothing in between

[kindred sorrel]

if i have p4+ ardelia, do i drop chest for something like pulser instead?

like this

arts intensity affects corrosion right?

[drifting quest]

I mean yeah rotations are typically pretty fixed if we're considering the optimal stuff, but I also don't see how things like 'can' or 'some timelines' is black and white

[oak vigil]

In the case of Avy teams I feel like you mostly focus more on her as the main on field to do stuff. Yeah Perlica and Arclight will get damage buffs too, but due to Avy’s setup wanting to hog all of it, it’s favorable to focus more on Avy herself dealing damage

[unreal light]

But she’s not the only damage dealer in the team

[drifting quest]

Avy hyper stuff is so backloaded on the 9/12 spear skill that there's not much point putting time into buffing the stacking period unless it's free and will be back up by the time the nuke phase comes (e.g. perlica stuff, gilb ult in some cases)

this is assuming an initial baseline of AI perlica

ill get to dps perl later

Because of this same assumption of backloaded 9/12 spear that's why Arclight is often not run at all, since Akekuri does more for the same slot. Her ult's align with the nuke phase with a lower uge% breakpoint letting her run frontiers, the sp generated smooths transitioning back to the start of the loop and she buffs more than arclight does for that single nuke with a generally easier proc condition for buffs.

[unreal light]

Pulser lab grants you 50 bonus damage

Perlica grants you 20% atk

Oblivion grants you 33,6 + 67,2% bonus damage

At the cost of one CS

[unreal light]

I also would like to remind you, that 9 spears + Ult spear is ~2000% mult backed by bonekrusha bonus damage

However there are also Perlica finisher, Perlica Ult, two avy ults, and Arclight ult damage

So your one avy bs damage is sure higher with link

But you’re like trading the whole team buff +66% electro + Arclight’s nuke for 10% atk

[drifting quest]

where's the 10% atk from

thermite?

[unreal light]

Ake pot

would you give me your best ake + Gilbert rotation to count the damage

[drifting quest]

you mention yourself the link but then dont include it when comparing it after

[drifting quest]

i mean there's like 5-10 of them and no one singular one is best

you can again ask iana which one they assumed calcs for since i dont know which specific one their calcs are from

i could find a generic bossing one for marble or dorito but it might not be the same

[neat snow]

How much ult gain must I artifice for Ardelia and akekuri for Laev comp 🙂

[unreal light]

Well you link one bs and it’s gone

[drifting quest]

yeah but you're backloading your damage onto that one skill

[unreal light]

That’s what I’m trying to say

That’s 2000% damage multiplier

Finisher is another 900%

Avy ult is another 950% and you use it twice in a short time

[drifting quest]

depending on how the fight goes you dont even necessarily hit finisher

[unreal light]

Perlica Ult is another 1000%

And Arclight Ult is another 900%

[drifting quest]

the boss can be phased or killed before that stagger threshold

[unreal light]

Might be, might not

[drifting quest]

idk why we're considering m3 arclight ult when their damage is pretty poor no matter the build

you also have to consider timeline length differences by trying to maintain arclight talent uptime

sp issues

[unreal light]

Bruh that’s another assumption

[drifting quest]

yes

everything is an assumption

i dont see what's unfair about assuming sl9 arclight ult

[unreal light]

Unless you calculate it

[drifting quest]

especially given the minimal damage share it has

[pulsar sail]

what source supplies the most amount of Tachyon Screening Lattice?

[drifting quest]

if anything assuming sl9 arclight ult is arguably generous

[chilly bolt]

Same amount

[drifting quest]

they do not gear in a way that benefits damage, nor do they play in a way that benefits damage, the levels in ult are merely extra damage

its a minmax investment not a typical one

[chilly bolt]

120 sanity for 9
80 sanity for 6

[unreal light]

You do have to stack the same 9-12 spears before BSing

It takes from 36 to 48 secs if you hit enemy at the exact moment your combo restores

You do have to build up the stagger

It is not like you’re going in and using your 9 spear BS right away with Akekuri, just because you don’t build up Arclight passive

[pulsar sail]

so Protocol Space, and Marble Aggelomoirai provide the same amount of materials? whats the specific amount?, is the chance drop the same amount?

[chilly bolt]

120 sanity for 9, 80 sanity for 6, For the chance drop i think it's based on sanity used and not stage specific cuz that would make it straight up better to farm 80 sanity one for more chance drops

We need penguins-stats.io

[midnight stirrup]

Whats up with yall and calculate it or drop sheet

When yall dont do it urself

And when u do its absolute nonsense

[dry mason]

[outer ermine]

shinooo

[dry mason]

Hi Hifumi

long time no see

Actually just 2 weeks

No more holiday

[midnight stirrup]

Shino

Gay

[dry mason]

I'm a girl

wdym gay

[midnight stirrup]

Girls can be gay