theorycrafting

[torn pilot]

does his p1 count as a seperate instance of gen for a stack?

[valid zealot]

No.

[daring dove]

From what I understand a usual rule of thumb is 1% ATK is worth about 2.5% DMG bonus, but obviously different teams have different levels of status saturation. What's the cap for a P5 Never Rest 35% DMG for the team, Unless Never Rest is getting to 70% DMG bonus 28% ATK is going to 1 up it. Also you're more likely to satured DMG than you are ATK in pretty much every team rn.

[valid zealot]

Return sp is a btch.

DRHANATT

[worn loom]

actually just some simple math says that the mi set gives 60% atk and 20% crit rate at 0 engravings

probably the right move there

[torn pilot]

just using his battle skill -> combo skill is 5 stacks as well

[oak vigil]

Hmmm I see, fair enough

But even then, if speaking of Pog as SP regen battery/buffer, Thermite is basically the same with less effort to it

If DPS Pog? Yeah sure, Never Rest works best

[daring dove]

I think Never Rest only really makes sense for Pog if you're somehow trying to use him as your main DPS.

Outside of that Thermite just seems better.

[drifting quest]

never rest has cases it can be better

could also swing back to it with future teams

[daring dove]

I think future teams are more likely to have tons of DMG bonus than tons of ATK, but we'll see I guess.

[worn loom]

that reminds me, i still havent use my 6 star selector, i have lifeng, do i just get pog to round out my phys team?

[drifting quest]

if you want to play phys yes

[covert summit]

on yvonne/gilberta/xaihi/perlica what weapon does perlica use? i have deto unit on rn but idk if thats correct

[teal pawn]

I do use Never Rest but that's more of a preference thing

It's not that detrimental

(copes)

[valid zealot]

Thermite is ugly.

[teal pawn]

That is TRUE

[drifting quest]

stanza

[teal pawn]

[covert summit]

kk ty

[drifting quest]

stanza perlica
deto (or if no deto then chiv) xaihi
sig gilb

gets cope with no sig, makes it kinda become a drop perlica angle

[daring dove]

I can see both weapons being at P0 Never Rest putting up a better fight honestly. Because the teams buffs from either isn't massive at P0. So you could make a better argument for preferencing the extra damage Never Rest gives Pog.

I think once both weapons are P5 Thermite would wipe the floor with it.

[valid zealot]

Isn't it drop Perlica angle.

It's Yvon after all.

IremWaitaMeowment

[drifting quest]

perlica is workable

[torn pilot]

yeah facts

never rest looks cool af

isnt that enough

[drifting quest]

if you want to pay up to 18k arsenal tokens for drip then go for it

[valid zealot]

Been there, done that.

Fml.

[teal pawn]

I mean, if Pog does deal damage

which in most builds he kinda just don't

[lilac bloom]

how much atk should my chen have

[drifting quest]

depends

[lilac bloom]

level 80 with a level 80 sundering steel

[drifting quest]

depends

[lilac bloom]

😔

[potent hornet]

at least p5 glow is kinda cool

[valid zealot]

wow flex

[gritty olive]

how much should my lung LR deal

[lilac bloom]

she has lower attack than the rest of my team so im not sure if ive just failed to invest properly

she has an essence i just havent been able to max it out

[torn pilot]

i mean i already have never rest

i got it for basically free

[potent hornet]

essence with her sword is a lot of it

the str and cry dmg buff

[torn pilot]

but i also have thermite cutter

[potent hornet]

cryo

[torn pilot]

which is why i need to know

[faint fiber]

So is Yvonne not worth having in team unless controlled?

[drifting quest]

thermite is ~10% better assuming you match the assumptions in the calc

[faint fiber]

Like if I main Last Rite

[drifting quest]

~5-15% range over some other similar assumptions

[lilac bloom]

u cant commit to both

[drifting quest]

yvonne is a detriment to last rite

[lilac bloom]

itd be one or the other

last rite is a cryo stack applier for yvonne but yvonne doesnt roll in a last rite focused team

[faint fiber]

Hmm would Yvonne - last rite gibralter and eyefjalla work?

Then again I hate the feeling of playing main with guns

[daring dove]

Btw what's a good intellect level to target on Xaihi?

[valid zealot]

As high as possible cuz you won't be reaching cap.

[daring dove]

Is there even a cap?

[valid zealot]

Without sacc-ing ur ult regen ofc.

1200

[daring dove]

These guys are EXP mat champions

They never get tired & are always happy.

[faint fiber]

Wow rereading Yvonne's skills ya'll weren't kidding

She only eats and never applies

[heady pine]

she shellfish

*selfish

[potent hornet]

alll done

[faint fiber]

Thanks Gyperglyph for giving me 2 yvonne's when not wanting to run her main

[daring dove]

https://giphy.com/gifs/uOx4m7GF9mEpkh9MgE

[faint fiber]

How long does corrosion last

[daring dove]

7 seconds normally, 11 with Ardelia's P5 if you're a massive whale.

[faint fiber]

Thanks. Btw I never see any number on this, what % is it or do they just mean the SP cost?

[valid zealot]

The skill will specify.

[gritty briar]

naturally applied corrosion is 15s

forced corrosion from specific skills will specify otherwise

[neat snow]

[faint fiber]

Where

[valid zealot]

[gritty briar]

that's not even the skill that applies it

that's the skill that eats it

[gritty olive]

when you open a skill theres more at the bottom

[valid zealot]

icant

[faint fiber]

It says "Applies"?

[faint fiber]

Yeah and when I click the button I get #theorycrafting message

[gritty briar]

oh i thought you were still asking about corrosion

cause that one does apply suscept

but anyways check the skill leveling page

[faint fiber]

Ohright, thanks bud

[gritty briar]

and the corrosion applying skill is her combo skill

[valid zealot]

icant

[buoyant yoke]

M3 dolly rush applies 20% susceptibility with P0 ardelia if that helps at all XD

[daring dove]

Every single run perfect essence first time.

[gritty briar]

does anyone happen to know if these enhancements to Catcher's ult from talent and pot count as his Ult damage for the purposes of being buffed by Link?

or is talent damage separate?

also stuff like the knockdown proc caused by the ult too

[valid zealot]

I summon the Catcher guy

1 min

[valid zealot]

It's reaction dmg, separated.

[echo crown]

Skill prio?

[valid zealot]

bskill

[echo crown]

That's the third, right?

[faint fiber]

Yeah no worries I get it might've been confusing since the ask about Art Amp wasn't a reply

[valid zealot]

2nd

[valid zealot]

@wanton notch

[echo crown]

Forgot to mention this is for Laevatain

[valid zealot]

Nothing changes.

[echo crown]

Ight

[uneven rose]

Detonation or Chivalric Values for Xaihi in Yvonne, Gilberts, Alesh team?

[valid zealot]

What ur gilb use

[uneven rose]

Opus: Etch

[heady pine]

det

[uneven rose]

Thanks!

[daring dove]

There we go my Xaihi isn't messing around anymore.

[neat snow]

[torn pilot]

[torn pilot]

how is xaihi btw? thinking of building her semi-low investment

since itll give me a solid support for yvonne and a reason to level up my detonation unit for later

[daring dove]

I'm likely not the one to ask to be honest, I have been playing this crazy game where I'm going to max out LR / Yvonne's teams but I haven't even played either team yet. Still using my Laevatain team until my secondary team is at peak performance.

But I'm still weeks away from that.

[tranquil burrow]

I jinxed myself

[daring dove]

Wish I coulda give you my luck, she was P2 for me with my first 70 wishes. An I actually lost a 50/50 within those wishes.

[tranquil burrow]

I lost to Ember. Again.

[daring dove]

I lowkey would of been happy with another Ember.

[tranquil burrow]

[daring dove]

That for me has to be the best profile art in the game.

But I need 1 more.

[torn pilot]

she reads pretty good considering the units i have built/plan to build(yvonne, gilberta, last rite)

the nature amp is randomly working well for gilberta

[daring dove]

From everyone who has used her with LR / Yvonne they all seem to say she's the most important support on the team, better than Gilberta even.

So I don't think there's any reaosn to worry about the investment.

[torn pilot]

yeah understandable, xaihi seems pretty mandatory for cryo dps's atm

what kind of support would make yvonne peak btw?

[dry kindle]

Another gilberta

[torn pilot]

i havent used her before but i know a lot of people say she doesnt have great options

[torn pilot]

why

doesnt gilberta pretty much do everything the team needs her to

[dry kindle]

More ult uptime

Also need a nature wulfgard

[bronze plume]

the reason xaihi is so used for cryo is cuz theres no one who can do what she does

but she will defo be replaced in the future for cryo teams

not a 6 star moment

[torn pilot]

yeah makes sense

[torn pilot]

yeah, it seems like yvonne doesnt explicitly need cryo stacks?

she seems to work just fine with nature application too

[daring dove]

No point in taking LR's skills further no?

[neat snow]

Depends if you love her or not if you truly love her you'll give her all the crowns

[daring dove]

Think they're better spent on Xaihi's ult first.

[torn pilot]

couldnt i just use ardelia instead of xaihi on yvonne team?

to save my resources

cuz i could realistically make a solid enough team for yvonne and just wait for better supports to drop for her

[daring dove]

Ardelia kinda screwed with the teams synergy from my basic understanding of things?

[torn pilot]

whys that?

it seems like all xaihi is adding to the team is additional stacks for yvonnes battle skill to deal more damage, as well as cryo sus and cryo/nature amp, then detonating unit

[daring dove]

Combo triggers & lack of synergy with Gilberta when trying to trigger corrosion it can work, I have seen people do it but they've said it makes the team extremely hard to play.

But that's usually swapping Perlica for Ardelia

Not Xaihi

[torn pilot]

ohh gotcha, yeah i would swap xaihi just to save on resources

the thing is that my account already has gilberta ardelia and perlica leveled

my thoughts are that i could reasonably apply shatter to remove vulnerability stacks

[daring dove]

Xaihi I think is the most important support on the team. I don't think she's a bad character to invest into either.

Will likely be key to all ice teams for a long time

She's amping the teams damage as much as a whaled out Ardelia P5/P5 or maybe more I believe.

While also providing infliction stacks for your DPS.

Also healing but with Ardelia you usually don't struggle there.

[torn pilot]

yeah, i hear you for sure, maybe ill just see how it goes. if i find that the team is seriously lacking then ill just level xaihi

basically went to pitty on artzy

was worth it tho, yvonne is so well designed

[daring dove]

Finally got my LR past 5k ATK anyway, she's getting closer to being ready for primetime.

Does anyone know the max CR Yvonne can currently get to?

[gritty olive]

[warm galleon]

With 1 slab 43% at p0-p1 with no armor buff.

[daring dove]

I'm thinking with P5 you're going to want to stack it as much as possible. Do you know what the max CR you get from this piece is?

[drifting quest]

13% or so

1.3x

[drifting quest]

artificing is x1.1, x1.2 and x1.3

at each stage

[daring dove]

So I'm counting 58.5 CR, if we're just counting the two off-piece CR bonus & P2 with weapon Essence maxed. But there's still potential for a lot more.

[warm galleon]

43% with 1 slab, 5% with armor buff, 7% from p2 and 30% when using ult which is p5.

[daring dove]

Lets say these piece gives us another 11 CR.

When it's maxed.

I reckon the peak is around 77% CR.

[warm galleon]

You already have 85% with 1 slab

[daring dove]

What is that?

[warm galleon]

P5 boost is when using ult, using ult gives 30% crit rate

[daring dove]

It's CD I believe

Not CR

[drifting quest]

its both

[daring dove]

Ah?

[warm galleon]

The base ult buff

Gives 30 cr

[drifting quest]

30 cr 60 cd

at base

p5 gives 30 more cd

p3 gives 10 more cd too but separate proc

same for talent

and its 20%

[bronze plume]

we love gachas and locking crit for crit dmg characters behind pots

i blame hoyoshit for this trend

[drifting quest]

its 40 out of the max 120 behind pots

not that big of a deal

[bronze plume]

shoulda made p5 200cd

[daring dove]

So theortically, with just Gloves & two off-pieces P5 Yvonne is 99.5% CR if she's getting 30% from ult.

Assuming max artificing.

I mean 30% more CR & 30% more CD wouldn't be considered a bad C6 by older Genshin standards.

In fact it would be pretty good

But Crit is a bit weaker in this game.

[warm galleon]

More like 7% crit and 50% cd

Ohh +10% atk and some int
But the best is p1 ult gains

[bronze plume]

all do just be worse then last rite 🥀

[warm galleon]

I think it's balanced, rangers should never be stronger than melee except glass cannon that dies in one hit or mega long cast time.

[bronze plume]

except for the fact that in this game enemies will just go straight up to yo face no matter what because theres no aggro kinda thing for the un controlled ops

i agree

but the fact enemies just rush you anyway

[gritty briar]

melee characters already mostly do more stagger i think

[bronze plume]

doesnt really make the whole ranged should do less dmg cuz safer make much sense

[gritty briar]

i dont really think they need to do more damage on top of that

[bronze plume]

especially with how easy dodging is within this game and how it just prints sp

[gritty briar]

and being melee or ranged doesn't even matter for like 3/4 of your team

[drifting quest]

yvonne does not get superarmour

lmao

[warm galleon]

Ohhh worst

[lilac bloom]

fucked up tbh

[warm galleon]

I hope we get an option not to force swap when ulting

[gritty briar]

well that's kinda how those ults work

[warm galleon]

Her ult basically just turn her into a turret like Laev is understandable but yvon ehh

[tight haven]

doing anything besides basic spamming during ult forces a pretty notable dps loss

its frustrating

[gritty briar]

I haven't really played laev or yvonne much. Laev enhances bskill with her ult too right? Does yvonne get anything other than basic attack during hers?

[warm galleon]

Nope, like Enion says doing anything during ult(like skill/combo) is a dps loss.

[gritty briar]

okay that is kinda lame

[warm galleon]

Yah that's why I hated her force swap ult.

Cause she gets the aggro when she's on turret mode

[gritty briar]

can you do stuff like snowshine/catcher parry while gunning someone down?

[warm galleon]

Yes

[gritty briar]

i feel like that should've been in her demo then

instead of estella...

[olive crag]

theory crafters in shambles after putting snowshine at the bottom of the tierlist but devs only care about mechanics https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1475739029709520969/snowshine_makes_this_easy.mp4?ex=699f3d52&is=699debd2&hm=919e90d1dad4723bccdeb26ad0a88b5be4fcc37123b6d2add31774943db83dd9&

[drifting quest]

I love spending sp for something I can gain sp from instead

What a great unit

[neat snow]

Did people actually use defenders for that stage?

[daring dove]

She dealt 187 damage with that SP cost though, seems worth.

[warm galleon]

I always like main snow with LR tbh

[olive crag]

how much dmg do you do when you dodge 🤔

[daring dove]

A lot less than 187!

[neat snow]

Is dodging difficult for redditors or something

[olive crag]

so the time you spend dodging 3 attacks is worth, when u could stun instead and whale on it with all 4 units?

[drifting quest]

With what sp you just spent it

And like most teams can stun anyway

[warm galleon]

I think I can do 20k with snow counter at lv 4 skill

[drifting quest]

The stagger bars are low

[olive crag]

ur going to gain back the sp from final strikes when u wouldnt get to do dodging 3 times

[drifting quest]

Its just a nothingburger tech

[olive crag]

i'm a bit confused, have yall even tried it or r u just theory crafting

[gritty briar]

i played ranged so actually i just shot them to death after dodging

[drifting quest]

If not active detriment to clear time

I have tried defenders yes

[neat snow]

Have you tried reducing your damage drastically when you could just push a button to avoid all damage instead

No I haven't

[olive crag]

in this stage, for these 2 annoying dudes?

i've tried both, and unless ur playing physical it's a faster time to insta-stun with snowshine and continue your rotation with the other 3

[drifting quest]

I ask in return

ok you answered

idk skill issue

you're pretty much alone in that thought

if you dont have the hands to do the dodge stuff and dont want to learn it then go for it

no one is policing how you play

its just worse though from the objective minmax standpoint

[olive crag]

this isnt about dodging correctly, it's about time

snowshine gives you back a bunch of time

[neat snow]

Time isn't a worry when you deal damage

[olive crag]

again i ask, how much dmg r u doing when ur dodging 3 times?

[neat snow]

Yeah that's gonna be a skill issue

[olive crag]

???

[gritty briar]

well another alternative is gilberta lift

physical isn't the only comp with lift

[olive crag]

thats why i caveated no phys, bert is unfair XD

[drifting quest]

you can do damage during the charges

you are aware of this right

you dont have to just sit and wait

[neat snow]

No we've already established skill issue

[wanton notch]

Nothing. Link doesn't buff his talents damage.
It's separate

[drifting quest]

you can tech multiple dodges per singular charge as well

for even more sp

[gritty briar]

damn

well thanks for confirming

[wanton notch]

No Link ultimate

Link ultimate

Link battle skill

[gritty briar]

i see

[wanton notch]

Ult damage itself is buffed for all normal hits tho. But that's should be obvious

Still pretty pointless to run Akekuri if you trying Catcher DPS

[gritty briar]

well my plan was to run 4 star comp and was mainly wondering if i'd need to count those talent pulses when comparing catcher vs estella ults

[wanton notch]

Talent damage increased by physical damage increase tho

Talent pulses deals barely damage anyway

[potent hornet]

is yvonne skills arts dmg?

[wanton notch]

Well, Estella ult is 1100% and Catcher is 870%

[gritty briar]

yeah but maybe catcher will end up with more atk or something idk

but it'll probably be estella

i still haven't finished building the team yet so idk how it'll end up

[wanton notch]

I mean if you run him with Exemplar + Aether gear

He gets hella lot of damage bonus

[gritty briar]

unfortunately i have no exemplar
planning on using sundered prince

does funny stagger

[wanton notch]

Then Estella for sure and just use Catcher with SM or Xiranite slave

[gritty briar]

yeah i did a few swings with swordmancer and the stagger buildup is comical

[paper sand]

is there a % comparison between yvonne teams? something like a team w gilberta is 100% and a team without her is like 80%

or is that like just too many numbers

[daring dove]

There we go she's nearly done now.

[bronze plume]

interesting

[daring dove]

Yep 600 free sanity was really nice.

[bronze plume]

at least they know

[daring dove]

Should of given us 300k T-Creds though.

[bronze plume]

the economy in there game is fucking dogshit

[teal pawn]

I burned through it all in the next 5 minutes

[daring dove]

I'm just using it all for essence farming rn.

[teal pawn]

my essences are still shit

[tranquil burrow]

I'm actually out of resource poverty

Not sure what to do with sanity, I guess keep pre-farming for 1.1 chars now

[bronze plume]

aura

[daring dove]

I'm upto 11 perfect essences now, (I mean 3 / 3 matches, not maxed out).

[neat snow]

Yeah that's what I'm doing now. Just farming 3/3 for each 6 star and usable 5 star

Got two today

[daring dove]

Yeah there's something satisfying about equipping all the 6* weapons with their optimal essences.

[normal tangle]

lowk giant waste of time but we ball

imagine farming essence for former finery

[brisk basalt]

go etch stanza and fort maker or sth. Good weapons

[neat snow]

Sadder than that even is my finery is 4 pots

[normal tangle]

etching stanza is free

same essence as laeva sig which you're gonna etch anyway

[daring dove]

For me it's been mostly grabbing them all for these weapons & Stanza. Although with Stanza I have a purple that has 3 top row 3 bottom row so I'm just using that.

[normal tangle]

they're the same 🎋

are you just copying your laeva essence or something

[neat snow]

I'll probably find a second one eventually

For stanza

[normal tangle]

that is not worth it 😭

[daring dove]

Yeah I'm not swapping essences on my weapons.

My maxed out Essence stays with Laevetain weapon

Stanza gets the cope one.

[bronze plume]

i mean on all support weapons normally all you care about is the bottom row

[neat snow]

Need 9 9 9 or I can't sleep at night

[normal tangle]

all except xaihi

[bronze plume]

not like theres much else do to once youve built 1 or 2 teams

[bronze plume]

keyword: normally

[daring dove]

To be fair most people haven't properly built one team yet, let alone two.

[zealous gorge]

how big dps increase i would get if i used rapid ascend instead? i have rapid ascend on selector box and thinking what to get

[bronze plume]

share yo wealth to them striker

[daring dove]

[neat snow]

Ngl I'm slightly disappointed I 5 potted Yvonne with 200k orbs instead of 300k I wanted the currency for building team lol

[proven mauve]

any idea why its ultimate over basic attack when basic has a higher damage split?

or is the damage split just cooked

[neat snow]

Also my copies this banner were 2 Laev and 2 gilb. No standard pulls. Really disappointed

[bronze plume]

why are you disappointed in getting the other 2 limited only as off rates

[neat snow]

Cause I want Ardelia

[bronze plume]

me when i dont get the one thing i want in a gacha but instead get luckier

[flat agate]

insanity

[neat snow]

I just need her pot 5 so badly

[daring dove]

I got silly lucky with her she was P2 with my first 7 pulls. Didn't lose a single 50/50 unless you count the first 10 pull where I pulled 2 6* characters for free.

Was going to skip her.

[bronze plume]

plead with HG to add 6 stars into the shop

they had them in their in cbt1

[neat snow]

That is lucky

That would be nice if there was a shop cause otherwise it kinda hard to get the standard compared to limited

[bronze plume]

just do 300 pulls on standard with those standard pulls we get

[zealous gorge]

i sold my soul or something cause i got yvonne maxed with 210pulls

now just need to build her team

[daring dove]

@neat snow How are you doing on standard banner characters now, I have nearly maxed them all except Ember an Pog now. Funnily enough though I still haven't pulled a single dupe of a character past P5 yet unless you count the tokens you get when you hit 220 pulls.

[bronze plume]

thats a cool max ard you got mine if i just... oh its mine now

thx :)

[neat snow]

All of mine are p3 except last rite is p5

So I'm 8 copies away from maxing the entire roster

7 actually cause I still have selector

[bronze plume]

not even max pot endmin

fake whales bro

[neat snow]

I don't consider her a character

[daring dove]

I really want P5 Ember now her profile art is so nice.

But I ain't pulling for that

[neat snow]

I think i have to swipe on standard

I'm too lucky for limiteds

[daring dove]

That has to be by far the coolest profile art.

[teal pawn]

[neat snow]

It is nice and that's the asthetic I usually go for, armored lady with big sword and bazongas

[teal pawn]

wtf are these charts

[gritty olive]

i will never trust prywden math without seeing sheets themselvs

[flat agate]

whered you guys see this

[teal pawn]

Prydwen lol

[half cosmos]

anyone have the calcs of artzy vs wedge?

[teal pawn]

Uhh 17% gap iirc

[half cosmos]

better than nav?

[teal pawn]

Slightly so

[half cosmos]

thank you

[teal pawn]

this is also according to Maygi

[solar vale]

While Ardelia is just always good, I kinda wonder if she falls off in top tier

[tight haven]

she doesnt

[heady pine]

Arts sus too stronk

[solar vale]

Like, for LR, its a competition between Gilb, Ardelia, and Perlica for the last 2 slots

[tight haven]

gilberta might be better in a number of situations but she doesnt meaningfully take away from ardelia

oh for lr gilb is better

if youre doing speedrun strats

[solar vale]

Yeah, but im using gilb and ardelia, but once I get better and don't need the healing she provides

is perlica better then

[tight haven]

yes

ardelia can be kicked out

[solar vale]

Thats what I thought

[tight haven]

or gilberta depending on your personal preference

[solar vale]

And meant by "falls off at higher tiers"

cause while corrosion is good

You need to spend more SP to detonate it

And you just dont have that to spare

[tight haven]

ardelia functionally does what gilberta does as a debuffer, it's simply that gilberta's are more potent when they're up and she doesn't use sp

yeah

[bronze plume]

what if both

ez

[tranquil burrow]

ardelia's debuff lasts 5x longer too so it balances out depending on comp

[tight haven]

ardelia needing to eat sp to debuff is her biggest flaw

[steep holly]

Why is the boss just stand there

[solar vale]

while perlica just is another Last strike combo with high dmg ult (and fragile if you build right)
And Gil gives huge boosts during her ult cycle that combined with Xaihi ult allow LR ylt to shread

[tranquil burrow]

Stagger nodes

[tight haven]

maggy stands around a lot too

phase 2 is easy as balls to nuke

[bronze plume]

counter argument shes eyjafjalla

that gets rid of all the flaws dont ❌ me

[tawny kayak]

Hey does anyone know if increasing arts intensity AFTER applying electrification still amplifies the damage taken?

[tight haven]

it will not

you would need to reapply electrification with that higher arts int value to benefit

[tawny kayak]

Lame, I was hoping because combustion increases DoT if you get buffed

[swift tundra]

Yvonne finally have her own 21s Rhodagn montage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cY4WWKGALI

[tight haven]

look at what she needs to imitate half of lr's power

[bronze plume]

and a fifth of avys

[swift tundra]

same clear speed as fastest p0 LR.
Edit: advantage is that you don't need to crit fish

[gritty briar]

wait how fast is avy's?

[tight haven]

under 10s was the wr i think?

of course she needs prep time it was a joke

[gritty briar]

oh is that with spear farming?

[tight haven]

yeah

[bronze plume]

me when i pre place 50 thunderspears

[fresh trench]

if i dont have oblivion what is best weapon for my ardelia for ardelia solo dps i am testing?

[valid palm]

So Sundering Steel becomes better than P0 Rising Ascent at P4 for Chen. But does anybody know when Rising Ascent becomes better than P5 Sundering again? P1 RA? P2?

[bronze plume]

icl if you are trying to make someone like ardelia a dps you have the best option or cry

[tight haven]

you still need to crit fish btw

the final strikes on ult have to crit

[gritty briar]

one day avy will get the first "0 second" clear by preplacing spears for a one shot

[swift tundra]

honestly, all these dpses that require setup via stacking to prep combo/ult might phase out quickly when HG finally releases vanilla dpses that just does damage without much setup required.

[edgy crater]

1.5m ulti, on crit fishing, gingseng too

[tight haven]

im being so mean to yvonne

im sorry yvonne

[fresh trench]

I DONT HAVE ENOUGH TO GET OBLION 😭

obvioasc

[bronze plume]

she deserves it

[fresh trench]

oblvine

fish

[bronze plume]

damn i cant say that

smh

[tranquil burrow]

you are probably close to crit cap with ginseng or even at it i think?

[tight haven]

you dont stack cr

with yvonnes gear

[tranquil burrow]

m1 gear gives her crit

it just adds up

[tight haven]

you still dont hit crit cap with 1 kit

[fresh trench]

i will uh build her as a side project

[tight haven]

theres definitely like, less crit fishing than lr obvs but this is a speedrunning environment so you gotta assume the best anyway

[edgy crater]

btw whats lr time with ange ?

[tight haven]

10s

at p5

[tranquil burrow]

m1 security set gives her +10% from set, +13% from one 1 kit, +11% from ginseng, +30% during ult, +20% from her sig. and maybe i'm missing something but either way, that's about 85ish% crit i think

[edgy crater]

w8, 10s already reached?

[tight haven]

no its like a couple ms above 10s

[edgy crater]

is it hifumi clear?

[tight haven]

no

[swift tundra]

Any range unit will scale better in the longevity of this game because of how the combat system works in this game, imo.

[edgy crater]

damn, how bout p0 lr?

[tight haven]

no clue

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

fastest ive seen for p0 was around 20s iirc

people might have optimized that down alr

[edgy crater]

dats with xaihi swap?

[tight haven]

yuh

[edgy crater]

[gritty olive]

@tight haven real or fake

HW

[tight haven]

whats this

hot work?

uhh

[gritty olive]

damage composition of this team in particular

[tight haven]

whats the timeframe

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

oh i see

[peak void]

please, PLEASE!!!!

[tight haven]

yeah thats accurate for that rot

[tranquil burrow]

accidentally bought marks instead of pulls

[tight haven]

account saved

almost bricked it by not buying those limited resources

[tranquil burrow]

i wouldn't mind this if i had the resources to use them

[tight haven]

what a shame that'd be huh

[slow wing]

Which one is better for yvonne?

[gritty olive]

more or less ok with prwydens

[edgy crater]

w8, is it really 21s?

[tight haven]

right

[swift tundra]

watch the video. lmao.

[slow wing]

Okiee tysm

[edgy crater]

nah i mean, firsthit at 1s, end at 23s

[swift tundra]

they are using the same rules as every other speedrun video. Timer ticks when monster acts/they apply first hit.

[edgy crater]

ah ok2

[gritty olive]

par

@tight haven sup need a question to be asked

[tranquil burrow]

change rule to moment you load in

never gonna happen i guess but meh

[gritty olive]

is ardelia gibby rotaiton "similar"

[tight haven]

no

gilb literally never has to bskill

ever

[tranquil burrow]

assuming sig

or stanza

[gritty briar]

when does trim timer start for rhodagn?

[tranquil burrow]

reasonable i guess

[tight haven]

both

[gritty olive]

how do you gain the nature infliction for corr/combustion tho

[tight haven]

her bskill doesnt offer anything except pulling and nature infliction

[gritty olive]

ill be assuming two target sim for angelina

so yeah how do you get the final stack

[tranquil burrow]

moment you load in. game is actually sensible unlike speedrun rules.

[tight haven]

wulf ult pepela

[gritty olive]

0 ult start

[swift tundra]

I'm not sure if in game timer starts ticking when they enter the map, but if so, the true time of every speed run video is probably 4-5 minutes because of all the setup they need to do and time they need to sneak behind Rhodagn without aggroing it.

[tight haven]

still wulf ult

[gritty briar]

kinda weird that people start timer after running behind him then

[gritty olive]

wait so do we still use tidefall

[tight haven]

on wulf? yes

[gritty olive]

and just use 1 combo for laev

[gritty briar]

i feel like it really should be on load in

[gritty olive]

no on surtr

[tight haven]

yes you always use tide fall

[gritty olive]

how do you get the two ebs before her ult? wait a long ass time?

[tight haven]

if youre cringe and didnt get laevs sig so youre stuck playing hot works then uhh

[tranquil burrow]

it is what it is

[gritty olive]

gilb bs -> ake bs -> wulf cs -> surtr n5 -> surtr cs

this shuold give her enough magmastacks against two enemies no?

[fresh trench]

hewwo does art intensity scale how much damage it increase for collosion?

[tawny kayak]

Do we know if Oblivion arts dmg boost applies before perlicas ult does damage?

[tawny kayak]

Yeah, it'll boost the damage, and the frailty debuff

[gritty olive]

cast = the moment it gets used

so yes

[half cosmos]

gil’s weapon or yvonne’s for her team? i have access to wedge

[tranquil burrow]

hypercarry weapon matters far more than support

but you have wedge

so that's covered

[teal pawn]

Gil sig is even more of a trap than Yvonne's ngl

[tranquil burrow]

i agree tbh

[tight haven]

yeah if youre dead set on using yvonne get yvonnes sig unless your wedge is p5

[half cosmos]

yeah and it’s about 90% to sig so i’m deliberating

[tight haven]

gilbs sig doesnt matter for yvonnes team

[tranquil burrow]

just use wedge if you pull sigs strategically

[tight haven]

youre not bursting often enough for the ult eff to matter

[half cosmos]

so best case i just don’t get either sig at all, slap wedge and stanza on each maybe?

[tranquil burrow]

yeah best bang for your buck

[teal pawn]

Tho I may have to nab it if Rossi is somehow nature striker

[half cosmos]

alright thank you all

[tranquil burrow]

if she also gets a 5* nature support alongside her maybe that one works better than gilb

gilb is kind of niche, only burst arts strikers can benefit

so if she's more sustained gilb is whatever

[edgy crater]

assuming u dont have sig, if ange n perlica on same team, u just go stanza monaihe?

[half cosmos]

yeah i’ll probably wait for a better support to invest in

[teal pawn]

lowkey hoping Rossi is corrosion focused if nature

[normal tangle]

she's not lol

[tranquil burrow]

i feel like the game's combat system lends itself more towards burst units than sustained

[tawny kayak]

So im crunching numbers, and realistically, navigator gives really similar bonuses to artzy tyrannical in practice. Artzy gives like 100 more base dmg tho

[teal pawn]

You never know

[normal tangle]

idk how you see fire fx and think nature striker

copium promax

[teal pawn]

That's not fire fx

[normal tangle]

god we are not starting ts again

watch the cutscene and open ur eyes maybe

[teal pawn]

idk man that's just not enough heat for me

phys is my best case scenario

[normal tangle]

literal fire and smoke?

not enough heat?

[elfin smelt]

naw my supreme chief's taken that spot

[normal tangle]

her shadow is literally an animation of bellowing flames?

not enough heat?

[teal pawn]

Shadow?

Idk who you see flames on that

[normal tangle]

did you watch the cutscene bruh 😭

[teal pawn]

Crush DPS

[normal tangle]

were we playing one-eyed too

[tranquil burrow]

i want her to be heat vanguard but it's looking unlikely to me if her weapon stat includes crit line which is very striker coded to me

[elfin smelt]

omg so she climbing on top of endmin was foreshadowing

[normal tangle]

how do we know her weapon includes crit

wgat

[tranquil burrow]

we don't

but uh

you know

[teal pawn]

Oh you mean the 2nd scene

[normal tangle]

?

[teal pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-10955612

[normal tangle]

no imean the very first

idk if the second scene also has it

[teal pawn]

we shouldn't talk about it further

[elfin smelt]

dunno why you are being so hostile xd people can speculate things

[normal tangle]

the one where they fight

[elfin smelt]

yeh just drop it

[normal tangle]

where was i being hostile in that message

[normal tangle]

yea that

[neat snow]

Her weapon is cool

[tranquil burrow]

funny edit

[teal pawn]

I meaaaaann look at Chen

Wait fuck

nvm

my Ake replacement agenda extinguished

[tranquil burrow]

heat vanguard looks more crackpot to me by the day, sad

[elfin smelt]

it's the general vibe not just the message man, but if that's how you normally talk then you do you

[tranquil burrow]

i might be gaslighting myself

[swift tundra]

I'm more curious if tangtang ends up being physical, which member of the phys team she most likely replacing

[elfin smelt]

I just hope she works with Wulfgard

[tranquil burrow]

i want her to replace lifeng or pog just so chen penguin and tangtang can be together

[teal pawn]

CRUSH DPS ON GOD!!!!

[elfin smelt]

nah but losing 17% physical sus is uhhh 😭

and link too

[tranquil burrow]

i will build phys if she replaces lifeng or pog

[swift tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/i-know-what-kind-of-man-you-are-dale

[tranquil burrow]

assuming the game lets me

[tranquil burrow]

wha

[tranquil burrow]

this is an innocent dream

[teal pawn]

Pog is glue and Lifeng is honestly pretty goated

[elfin smelt]

most likely the one doing dps right now cos there's too many guards already

[obsidian oriole]

does both operators arts intensity increase reaction damage when applied or only the one who caused it? say, Gilberta Nature + Wulfgard Heat, does Gilberta's arts intensity apply to the combustion?

[teal pawn]

If there's a slot to replace imo it's Pengmin

[tranquil burrow]

[teal pawn]

Darkmask's time to retire

[elfin smelt]

"omg Im being replaced oh noooo" - plot armor activates, switch element and role

[tranquil burrow]

time for breach and crush is over

now it's rupture time

[manic beacon]

arts intensity of the ops who apply stacks won't matter (outside of arts bursts), just the one who triggers the reaction

[summer flicker]

kill the one who drop the order

[covert summit]

im seeing that on yvonne comp xaihi uses deto unit instead of chivalric but im seeing mixed answers, which is actually better?

[swift tundra]

chivalric should be better because atk% is op iirc.

[gritty olive]

the ai from bili

[bronze plume]

man

[swift tundra]

also detonation requires Arts Burst, which can be inconsistent at times.

[bronze plume]

what do i do what my sanity now that laev and ardelia are m12

clearly

i m6 gilberta

yeah thats a good idea

[elfin smelt]

did you have to farm Tcredits, sounds like a ton of money from all that

[bronze plume]

naur

[elfin smelt]

haur

[bronze plume]

i brought bp

[elfin smelt]

I did too 🥀

[bronze plume]

and shockingly this time the t creds funds from events is enuf

[gritty olive]

im gonna buy bp asap

[swift tundra]

🐧 gugugaga~!

[bronze plume]

cbt2 was so ass

[gritty olive]

after i ask my mother

[bronze plume]

unironically its the best source of weapon pulls without using reg pulls

like you get more arsenal tickets from bp then you do from the credit shop and weekly rewards from all of a patch

[elfin smelt]

how much was the amount again

[tranquil burrow]

12

[ashen scroll]

Level 69 the sla..workforce

Everyone

[elfin smelt]

iirc it was 1600?

[ashen scroll]

All of em

[bronze plume]

why would i lvl 69 my characters to make people think im a 12 year old

[tranquil burrow]

2400 or 12 weapon pulls

[bronze plume]

thats nearly as worse as telling me to lvl 67 them

[elfin smelt]

sweet

[ashen scroll]

Its sacred tradition

[gritty olive]

game isnt arknights

so

[warm galleon]

Pretty much free from getting all operators to p5

[ashen scroll]

Do it then

[summer flicker]

PepeWhale

[elfin smelt]

think you can get around 1600 (plus 400 from weekly rewards) wp per month if you are able to refresh and buy 4 times per day

[summer flicker]

you prolly cant buy 4 times per day

2 should be avg

maygidrool

[tranquil burrow]

If you could buy 4 times per day that’d be 2400 tickets per month

[elfin smelt]

I have clue exchange most of the time, and I skip basic resources. My usual income has been either 50 oros or 40-60 arsenal perday

[velvet sphinx]

How good is Stanza vs Gilberta's Sig on Gilberta on a Yvonne team?

[elfin smelt]

but yea depends on luck

[summer flicker]

ye very luck base

[tranquil burrow]

But even if you buy twice per day that’s still 1200 per month, not too bad

[summer flicker]

oro? mid value
At: good value maygiwah

[tranquil burrow]

Probably 5-6 weapon pulls over all if average is 1000-1200

[swift tundra]

only need to save 6 months to pity 1 weapon. 🍂

[tranquil burrow]

That’s not your only source but sure

[elfin smelt]

Stanza high pot is decent

[gritty olive]

@bronze plume do you have gibs and laev

[tranquil burrow]

It’s like saying you need to save for 3 years because you only get 0.8 char pulls from weeklies

[bronze plume]

i have everyone minus ember

[gritty olive]

can 2 skills in a gibby laev wulf ake team generate enough magmastacks for laev

[bronze plume]

like 2 ake skills?

[gritty olive]

like gibby bs -> ake bs -> surtr n5 eats the infliction -> gibby nature infliction -> wulf combo -> surtr combo

is that impossible

assuming umbral monument

because like if this is already two enemies, dont i just need like one ake bs skill -> wulf combo then i get all the stacks i need?

[valid zealot]

That's just 3 stacks.

[gritty olive]

akekuri skill is not aoe then?

[valid zealot]

Oh 2 enemies

hmm

Yeah no still 3 stack.

[gritty olive]

[bronze plume]

i mean 2 enemies if you get them close together you just get lots of stacks

[valid zealot]

Since Gilb bs into Ake bs is combustion alrd.

[gritty olive]

so i have heat stack + combustion brewing

[valid zealot]

Unless you time the N5 before the bs pop

[gritty olive]

so for that, shouldnt i just use a delayed wulfgard combo?

[gritty olive]

yes i will make the sim do that

you can see by the time N5 is done, i have one nature stack + 0 fire stack

[bronze plume]

bro asked me a question

[valid zealot]

Then yeah you can squeeze both Ake bs and Wulf combo to get sucked before bs pop.

[bronze plume]

about what if i removed ardelia from a team

[valid zealot]

Which is immediately 4 stacks

[bronze plume]

crazy

[gritty olive]

i will delete your account

[neat snow]

[bronze plume]

try it

and ill delete your life

(youd actually be doing me good by deleting my gachas)

dont talk to me unless youre AL 57 smh

[neat snow]

Only 57

[bronze plume]

imagine my shock when the whale says something like that

[elfin smelt]

I have 3 clues 7 but noone in my friend list needs them

[neat snow]

[bronze plume]

yeah it seems like everyone always has clue 7

[valid zealot]

I have 11 clue 7.

[bronze plume]

do we know how many total files are within the game?

[neat snow]

300

[valid zealot]

Which stage has exactly 2 enemies

[bronze plume]

300

2-2

has the 2 ram bois

also 1-3

[elfin smelt]

but 56 people are holding santity for discount event

[bronze plume]

has the 2 elites

[bronze plume]

then talk to me when you are 57 gang

[valid zealot]

I kinda prefer something instant.

[bronze plume]

imagine if they made it

just unlimited so people who saved sanity just win

[neat snow]

I heard the sanity event has a limit and you can reach it with naturally regenerating sanity

[elfin smelt]

I prefer staying young

[bronze plume]

growing old is inevitable

[elfin smelt]

it should be like that yea, but imagine

[neat snow]

Yeah it'd be crazy if no limit

[molten star]

Is p5 xaihi huge upgrade?

I have seen a dude hit 600k combo on rhodogan while my max is like 300k and I'm close to etchmaxing her weapon

[molten star]

This is on last rite

[timid loom]

would anyone happen to know what sheet this is from? saw someone post it on a lae build thread but they never linked source

[valid zealot]

@gritty olive This you?

[elfin smelt]

dont think p5 makes that much of a difference, probly something to do with stacking buffs/debuffs

[gritty olive]

dude i linked the source

[valid zealot]

So it's really you

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=245588407#gid=245588407

nvm thats not me

[timid loom]

u might have but not the person that reposted it

[gritty olive]

someone probably sent my screenshot of it

[timid loom]

yeah they sent ss then someone asked for source and no response for 4 days LOL

tyty btw

[gritty olive]

[bronze plume]

monika doesnt play the game but does nerd math

[gritty olive]

i have all trim medals broski

well at least for the boss trims

[bronze plume]

for the last time you paid me for that

[summer flicker]

i hate triangle boss so i dont trim him

[bronze plume]

smh

[summer flicker]

[gritty olive]

liemeter

[bronze plume]

i have no bosses trimmed because theres no reward for it

[bronze plume]

me when you say you play the game smh

[teal pawn]

but shiny medal

rainboww

[gritty olive]

bro literally be typing anything

[bronze plume]

you know me so well

ywuagfcuyaesguytcgayuswgcyuaw

[molten star]

Xaihi p5 or last rite p3, which is huge?

[fresh trench]

ywuagfcuyaesguytcgayuswgcyuaw indeed

[edgy crater]

lr p3

[fresh trench]

ardelia p4

[elfin smelt]

I have none so can't answer, but p3 6* sounds kinda good

[molten star]

https://youtu.be/sjRMRL-QEbw?si=yaYZ3zY5-Jk72s9z

This is the video btw. Also my ardelia is p1 and lr is p2 but I'm like halfway of the dmg shown here

[edgy crater]

its crit fishing

[molten star]

600k on combo wasn't crit tho?

[edgy crater]

nah it does

its crit bug

[molten star]

Damn

[elfin smelt]

your team was strong all along

[molten star]

So this is bugged?

[neat snow]

I'm really tempted to use food to try to hit 800k hit with Laev but I hate crit fishing

[edgy crater]

yeah,dats should be crit

[fresh trench]

what is crit fishing

[neat snow]

Just resetting until your combo crits

[molten star]

Are there alot of bugs on LR? Cuz doing the final strike on her doesn't reset the combo timer of ardelia's combo

[bronze plume]

trying to do a run over and over until you get full crit combo

[fresh trench]

ah

the "lets go gambling"

but speed run

[bronze plume]

its why i hate "speedrun" or screenshots of dmg

cuz in games like genshin

they have like 5 cr and 500 cdmg

and crit fish the 1 big hit for like 100 tries then go

guys look at my dmg

like stfu

[neat snow]

Guys look at my damage

[peak void]

this sucks

[bronze plume]

whales dont count

[fresh trench]

i have xinyan cause she have 100% critrate on ult

but still yeah

[bronze plume]

xinyan in the big 26

[fresh trench]

i dont lpay genshin no more

[edgy crater]

wheres surtr 2m crit

[neat snow]

I think 1m is possible

[fresh trench]

8 hoours event every 2 weeks is not fun with no skipable story that boring af

[swift tundra]

https://klipy.com/gifs/soulja-boy-copied-my-flow-1

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1jpFLzXEah/?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click

[elfin smelt]

I hope there will be a physical status or art reaction that increase the likelihood of getting crit

crit fishing sounds daunting ngl

[fresh trench]

marked

from darkest dungeon

[neat snow]

Once you get in the groove it's just doing the same rotation again and again until it pops

[fresh trench]

sound nice

[elfin smelt]

that sounds like a skill status like Antal

[fresh trench]

i dont like antal

i cant aim using him

[neat snow]

Get that lizard away from me

[elfin smelt]

his buffs are nice tho

[neat snow]

EW EW EW

[fresh trench]

i like how z7 team or whatver have no combo to their team member lmao

[summer flicker]

1m7 fs on phase 1 marble

good dps(dmg per screenshot)

[elfin smelt]

if you think about it 20 arsenal in credit shop worth like 10k Tcredits

[outer ermine]

[modest thorn]

are ur support weapons high dupe?

[neat snow]

Yes everything is maxed

[modest thorn]

damn does that mena u pulled on the starry dream banner?

cause idk where else to get them lol

[neat snow]

Yeah I did

For starry and thermite

[outer ermine]

damnn

sponsor

[modest thorn]

oh gotcha lol

i really want to pull on it but i just cant bring myself to

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[modest thorn]

same with spending on the standard banner i know ill max them eventually

at least extra char dupes do something

extra weapons do nothing 🥀

[outer ermine]

smh beef

[modest thorn]

ooh thats nice hows ur clannibal

[molten star]

Guys after performing one 4 stack combo on LR, when you start the next rot, do you wait until you have like 200 sp ?

[neat snow]

Clannibal is also maxed

[gritty olive]

are you using ultspam

[neat snow]

The essence isn't though just the pots

[gritty olive]

or no

[neat snow]

Yeah

[valid zealot]

whale~2

[gritty olive]

[modest thorn]

maxed gilb?

what am i saying ofc its maxed

[civic wolf]

okay so what is up with the meta shifting (again) and ALesh being relevant in Yvonne's team?

[neat snow]

Yes gilb and Yvonne are p5

[modest thorn]

have u tried gilb/laev/wulf/ard

[neat snow]

I haven't built gilb at all. I'll probably do her next

[modest thorn]

oh gotcha

yeah i find that team way better

u don't really need sp

[neat snow]

I just like the flow of the standard comp

Feels good to me

[valid zealot]

Oh my

[dire kayak]

Is Yvonne good? Should I pull her if I already have leavatain

[valid zealot]

I just clicked on Morb's calc for the first time

It's all formulas.

[thorn shore]

xaihi or fluorite in yvonne team

why does it say fluorite maybe better

[neat snow]

My opinion, Laev clears all content and her team is easy and cheap to build since you also get Ard and her sig for free. Wulf uses a 5 star and you really only need to nab a thermite cutter for ake. 👍

[dire kayak]

Ty 👍

[thorn shore]

wulf p5 made me do another 120 pulls

frick wulf

[neat snow]

Yeah his p5 is nice but I feel it's a little hard to line up, I don't want to double stack combustion but I also want to use it immediately after using his first cs while I have sp for another ake bs to immediately trigger a second cs while also not overflowing on Laev stacks

[thorn shore]

its cool cause he can solo build all 4 stacks

between the 3 he applies and laev combo

[civic wolf]

okay so wtf happened that made Alesh suddenly relevant for Yvonne team? is it really just cryo app without parry req?

[valid zealot]

Cryo and he's a vanguard.

[thorn shore]

supposedly yvonne just has ass teammates

[neat snow]

It's definitely really good just hard to get 100% effecient use on it

[thorn shore]

i use gilberta laev team cause i love gilberta

gilberta stays in all 3 of my teams

[neat snow]

I'm gonna build her and try her out I like her too

[thorn shore]

so wulf gets good usage

[neat snow]

But the standard Laev team has clicked nicely for me so far.

I'm slow at learning these rotations LOL

[thorn shore]

unc

[elfin smelt]

rich unc

[neat snow]

Im only 30

[modest thorn]

unc

[valid zealot]

Unc

[thorn shore]

mega unc

[civic wolf]

yeah ik but last time i checked people never considered him

[valid zealot]

where my lucky money

[civic wolf]

so i'm like, ????

[valid zealot]

worrygiveme

[neat snow]

[modest thorn]

i wont call you unc for the low price of a 10 pull

[neat snow]

I'm this close to whaling standard to finish Ardelia

[modest thorn]

man i can't even justify ardelia p5 cause it doesn't do anything useful

[neat snow]

I'll see no benefit from it

[timid loom]

any chance u've looked into/can tell me what to think/have an opinion on replacing w/ slab instead of heatworks glove for the p5p5 ult spam set? saw it on prydwyn b4 i found ur sheet so am curious

[timid loom]

wdym. it unlocks that dijiang art

[modest thorn]

doesn't lynx slab not let you reach the ult recharge breakpoint?

[valid zealot]

p5p5

[modest thorn]

oh wait gloves gives a lot i was thikning of armor

[timid loom]

still hit it i think just barely

i can double check though
jk maybe doesn't hit. (1 maxed seal + maxed tideworks fully is 49.4 + 20.5 from unart'd glove) = 69.9%
glove needs to give 27.07 to hit the 76.47%
can't find artificied # on glove 🤡

[modest thorn]

yeah i thought gloves didn't give that much

but i thought wrong

[neat snow]

Need 76.5% for p5

P4

That feels comfy

[modest thorn]

am i misunderstanding

doesn't lynx waste an attribute

[valid zealot]

26.9% main att is huge.

[modest thorn]

while hot work uses all of them and benefits the same from the % increase damage

[valid zealot]

Statmaxxing.

Simply because you benefits from attack more than most, if not every, stat in the game.

[modest thorn]

its like 84 intellect and 55 strength vs like 60 intellect

plus you're replacing a redeemer seal which buffs you anyways

for a xiranite glove which doesn't buff you

[gritty olive]

doesnt work for ultspam, works for hw

[neat snow]

I'm really settled with two sets rn, tidefall+hot works and then seals+hotwork gloves and tide fall. I feel it covers all scenarios. But I can try a slab at some point..

[modest thorn]

on laeva does main attribute scale harder than heat damage?

assuming same %

[gritty olive]

thats pretty sucky to calculate

[modest thorn]

do we know if they scale differently tho? i assumed they were the same but now that i think of it maybe it doesn't

[gritty olive]

they are multiplicative in nature given that they are different multipliers, but its hard to assess how big extra main and fire gives

like laevatain has inherent dmg from , forgeborn, and what not
and she also has STR and MAIN

[modest thorn]

gotcha gotcha

so they should be like about equal then

[dry kindle]

If 1:1 then go figure main stat is better thing is its not so 🗿

[summer flicker]

kill me please

it dodge my yvonne skill

bruh

😭

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[rare zodiac]

Kill Yvonne

[outer ermine]

[lusty kernel]

Theres urgent recruitment right

We have to do 30 pulls before getting it

Does the count reset on the next banner like im 10 away this banner

Is it 10 away too on the next one

Or it resets

?

[rare rover]

theres a urgent recruitment for every limited banner 1 per

[lusty kernel]

Oh

[summer flicker]

look near the end

how the fuck xaihi apply cyro to that thing

😭

[lusty kernel]

Im thinking of the pull count

[summer flicker]

i im thinging the cyro stack gonna be wasted wtf

[lusty kernel]

So next bannet it will reset back to 30 pulls away?

[rare rover]

1 per so yes