theorycrafting

[safe sand]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275489639108706346/1450013620363591690/how-big-will-the-file-size-be-at-launch-v0-kcm77r8viw6g1.gif

[summer flower]

Most stuff doesn't

[outer ermine]

its the first piece pls

[safe sand]

I'm just gonna block and move on

[summer flower]

And we had today talk how it's more than it looks

[safe sand]

feels like talking to a wall

[frozen tide]

Corrosion or res in general is 1-res+corrosion total

[summer flower]

Cause it's ain't 12 procent on lv1 but more

Because of assumption 0.8 is baseline

[drifting quest]

res reduction in general

not just corrosion

[summer flower]

Yea Res reduction in general thank you for clarifying

[frozen tide]

Its always better to spread investment across different mult buckets and res bucket is empty

[lost void]

I'm not so sure how does rating translate into numbers. Is it flat value, or is it percentage like
D = 0%
C = 20%
B = 50%
A = 70%
S = immune?

[summer flower]

I only seen 0.8 so C = 20%

[chilly bolt]

Immune lol, no i believe there's scratch dmg too

[summer flower]

Look up the heat one how much it has

[lilac bloom]

ok

[drifting quest]

each letter is a range

original arknights was the same

then we got D+, C- etc

then we just got the values

[lost void]

He has B rating.

[summer flower]

and how much his wiki page says they have?

[summer flower]

0.5

[lost void]

says.5 so B is 50%

[summer flower]

We don't have example of A yet right?

[lost void]

none atm mostly at D's & C's

[summer flower]

D is 0

[potent hornet]

yvonne banner out for china now?

[summer flower]

Would it be?

[dusk isle]

dont think so

[summer flower]

Laev wasn't on server reset

[potent hornet]

they get it before i do normally

[summer flower]

But mid day wasn't it?

Like 10hrs difference?

[dusk isle]

ye but gilb banner ends in 23h for eu/na

[lost void]

Is CN server ahead than the rest? Or it's just Asian,etc?

[dusk isle]

so 10h later from now for asia i guess

[potent hornet]

well its said 1 day since like 10 hours ago

[potent hornet]

lol i swear i just checked it a bit ago and still said a day

ok cool

[neat snow]

[chilly bolt]

Asia reset in 1 and a half hours

[potent hornet]

gonna have to wait until after work then to pull

[honest hill]

lucky mfs

[neat snow]

I have a work meeting when banner opens, might just cancel it to swipe

[chilly bolt]

Eu living in the past

[honest hill]

[dusk isle]

eu is blessed by not having yvonne for 13 hours more

[honest hill]

ngl I think my avy can nuke better than lr

[chilly bolt]

But avy needs more setup no?

[finite oriole]

is there a damage calculator where I can punch in my stats to calculate the final damage?

[drifting quest]

no

plug and play calcs will take a while

they're

impractical

its theoretically easier to make a one instance calculator but that becomes a lot less valuable

[honest hill]

I mean yeah but against Rhodagn I can double ult and w ginseng I can kill boss easier methinks

[dusk isle]

have you seen the 37s avy rhod kill

maybe you can try smth like that

[honest hill]

I did see a double ult

[drifting quest]

37s seems slow

[honest hill]

but I haven't seen it

[drifting quest]

What was the setup

[dusk isle]

https://youtu.be/rnx-Dd3USck?si=Hj5AGPev3jTAKee8

found the vid

[drifting quest]

must be a bit lower investment

nvm its stew meeting

idk what it is

[chilly bolt]

@dusk isle @edgy crater if you dash cancel xaihi bs too early you actually lose it right, does that happen with LR bs too

[drifting quest]

i assumed 0 stew which is at the like 20-25s mark last i saw

[honest hill]

yes

[edgy crater]

the fs? yeah

[chilly bolt]

No, bs

[dusk isle]

i think you do if you dont cast it during attack animation

[honest hill]

no the bs dummy

[edgy crater]

oh lol, yaeh

[chilly bolt]

Yes you cast and she slams her sword down, but if you dash too early (like immediately) then you lose the skill

[dusk isle]

if you dash right at the beginning of this animation you lose the sp

you dont get the 30 refunded as well

[chilly bolt]

lol soo it's not just me

[honest hill]

ye

[chilly bolt]

Badly coded unit

[potent hornet]

the fix is to stop casting it while you aren't attacking

[dusk isle]

just cast it during attack animation

[potent hornet]

no reason to really

[honest hill]

cast as ur attacking

[lusty relic]

If you spam xaihi and LR BS while the camera is panning, you can get a free BS in https://streamable.com/u7wtx7

i did it accidently while mashing

it works on every stage

[chilly bolt]

Wtf ... Spaghetti code

But that's the only thing keeping LR team doesn't feel like shit in term of rotation

After like 2 rotation you're left with 0 sp

[lusty relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmObeqKf-dA Pretty sure its not working as intended but I use it in every stage here

I think there is a really specific window you can press it but I just mash it tbh

[chilly bolt]

Music is 🔥

[edgy crater]

da heck how?

[lusty relic]

I have not tested on keyboard but its just L1 + Skill, Just spamming it

like really fast

[dusk isle]

lemme try with controller i couldnt get it on keyboard

[lusty relic]

make sure you're not holding down L1, keep pressing L1 individually

or it won't work

[dusk isle]

whats reset umbral button on controller btw

[lusty relic]

I honestly have no idea why it works

uhh on dual sense its the top right, Not sure what controller you are using

[dusk isle]

it was l3 for me

[lusty relic]

I'm also holding forward, if that helps

not sure if that actually matters

[outer ermine]

[dusk isle]

ok

so

loading screen is important

the reset doesnt work

[lusty relic]

it does on retry but its instantaneous

so its very likely to not work

[dusk isle]

i just could not get it on retries

lmao just got 45s

[lusty relic]

Oh yeah and another tip is to try do one of them at a time. If you try to cast both Xaihi and Last Rite, it has a tendancy to fail

[dusk isle]

i got it both this time

[summer flower]

I just realised

[lusty relic]

my run isn't very optimized, I didn't even know the boss had 2 hit boxes

[summer flower]

I'm getting trims with that

[lusty relic]

so Xaihi BS can bounce and provide 2 stacks

[pure spoke]

guys i did no hit run matador Chen solo

[dusk isle]

i didnt even know the boss was staggerable until this evening

[summer flower]

Ohh so that's one missing cryo from my calc

[pure spoke]

2 min 13 sec

chen gaming

actually had to save combo and wait because they were so aids

[summer flower]

Seen that

I was doing that battle and I thought

Chen can get long safety times with that lift

[pure spoke]

ye its pretty nice. but i dont rlly get why 2nd guy can only be lifted sometimes and sometimes Only with combo

even tho i didnt kill first guy

[summer flower]

I have seen one situation in which you moved camera

An i think you tried to ge them both

But effect was opposite

[pure spoke]

it works on both at the same time sometimes

[summer flower]

I have seen you miss

[pure spoke]

its weird

ye

i did few runs and my idea was to gather them together and use combo to lift both

[summer flower]

It was "not like this" moment

[pure spoke]

ye not this time

[summer flower]

But seen intent

[pure spoke]

i ve seen another solo chen run who lifted both at the same time. thats why i wanted to do a no hit run too today because of that

[summer flower]

Meanwhile my endmin has 3/4 gear purple

🤷

[daring dove]

Making some decent progress on Xaihi now, think I'll take her weapon to 90 as well.

[pure spoke]

u you were the atk% purple guy?

xD

[summer flower]

Apparently I'm still

4th is slab, cause upgraded slab is more attack

Not upgraded ain't If I remember correctly

[honest hill]

for damage?

[summer flower]

If we aren't supposed to max it, why there is maximum?

[honest hill]

I'm asking why he's doing it

[daring dove]

She doesn't deal much I guess, just so she's functionally complete. Before I start working on artificing.

[bronze plume]

Man idc bruh

[honest hill]

but she is functional at lv 1 wep I mean it is up to you it costs so much to 90 wep

[summer flower]

I also discovered I can just start combo with ember skill

And all combos follow in correct order

And I was sweating starting with Chen skill

Then forgetting to do ember skill etc

So ember Chen endmin is for easiest crush single skill followed by combos to finish with skill

[daring dove]

I'm kinda in the progress of trying to min-max LR's team to its highest potential. But I'm also i no rush since my main team is already at that point. I think Xaihi as a character is good enough to warrant the extra investment even if her damage isn't her focus?

That said I haven't decided if I'll take Perlica past 80, since I think she'll be the first one to be dropped.

[midnight stirrup]

Xaihi is like Kazuha

Kinda

In that they dont deal damage but give massive buffing for the state the game is in rn

And idk I dont think Perlica is a bad investment but shes def last prio

Gilb ardelia and akekuri having overlap between the two teams is nice

[daring dove]

Yeah those 8 characters can make two very functional teams, becaise if I say rob Gilberta or Ardelia from Laevatain's team Wulf simply replaces them.

[midnight stirrup]

Exactly

Only one thats kinda

Not

Is Akekuri

Most time Laev wants her

[leaden mantle]

does the lift basically carry you in this fight?

[pure spoke]

it does. it makes the fight shorter. but in the end its just dodging

but they dont always get lifted so its annoying

[leaden mantle]

do you dodge it at the last moment?

[honest hill]

Her damage isn't the focus it's her amp which she is worth levelling up for then M3ing her ult

[pure spoke]

no before it hits. the dodge window is pretty big in arknights

[leaden mantle]

I feel I either do it too early or too late :/

[pure spoke]

imo dodging too early gets me hit less often than "perfect" moment

[pure spoke]

whats your ping?

hitboxes are kinda weird

[leaden mantle]

22ms...

sometimes spikes to 42 i guess? I think I'm just bad at action games

[pure spoke]

in general just reacting to the enemies red blinking and dodge immediantly has a 100% successrate for me.

[leaden mantle]

in general

[pure spoke]

like dont look at their movement. just look at the blinking

[midnight stirrup]

Yo ngl

This is clean af

Does Chen trigger lift combo on dodge?

[pure spoke]

thx ikr xD

[pure spoke]

no

[midnight stirrup]

How u keep lifting at exact dodges

I dont play Chen

[pure spoke]

i just dodge after combo and BS to get more normal attacks inbetween

[leaden mantle]

like my strategy was running around in a circle and spamming snowshine parries because I couldn't commit on the final strikes for LR, and if i get hit I just lose the chain

[midnight stirrup]

Wait so what triggers the lift

[pure spoke]

just bs

[midnight stirrup]

Cd that low?

[midnight stirrup]

I can record how to play LR vs bulls later

If I remember

Its not that difficult, just gotta know how

[leaden mantle]

do i need a higher lvl snowshine?

[midnight stirrup]

I dont use snowshine

You dont need her at all if you know how to properly dodge

[pure spoke]

16 sec

[midnight stirrup]

Maybe this gives you an idea. Even tho not the bulls

@leaden mantle

[midnight stirrup]

Huh u spam that lift way more within 16s

[pure spoke]

i mainly used combo skill and bs skill to juggle the 2 mobs so both dont charge at me at the same time. to keep uptime

[midnight stirrup]

[pure spoke]

bs and combo lift

[lusty relic]

You can just use a level 20 Snowshine/Catcher for the bulls if you're having trouble

[midnight stirrup]

Oh u just swap between them

Ic

[pure spoke]

but they both dont always lift. its weird

most of my failed runs where when i tried to lift them but they ignored it and they charged at me

[midnight stirrup]

I ran into that with Gilb too ngl

She didnt always lift

I feel like u gotta do a certain amount of stagger

[pure spoke]

idk if its a bug . i also had a feeling the combo of Chen " deactivated" their lift immunity

[midnight stirrup]

Or they just have hyperarmor during certain intervals

[pure spoke]

oh maybe that

[midnight stirrup]

Its either or no clue

[pure spoke]

at around 0:49 you can see me use BS lift and he didnt give a fuck until i did combo

failed run hehe

also at 1:10

[summer flower]

first lift doesnt lift

lift requires vunl to lift enemy up

[leaden mantle]

Trying to do no dmg runs?

[summer flower]

also i copied your strategy a bit, crush is mistake in that stage

[pure spoke]

bruh

[summer flower]

having them not be lift/knockdown able is mistake

[pure spoke]

is that a stage perk?

the first vul doesnt lift?

[summer flower]

that's normal behaviour

[pure spoke]

[summer flower]

there is requirment for vunl

[pure spoke]

im illiterate for real

[summer flower]

i didnt notice it as well

[lusty relic]

I forgot about that but it was in the tutorial

since I always open with Lifeng BS in a phys rot

[summer flower]

i dunno if i did chen tutorial

[pure spoke]

and vul stacks last for 20 sec iirc

[summer flower]

basically crush for this stage for phys is unoptimal

its better to spam lift/knockdowns

do not eat vunl when its wanted for Crowd control

also i got m2 on ember basic attacks

and just trimmed new umbral

[leaden mantle]

should i just not even bother with this stupid bull stage? or am I in need of skill ossue

[summer flower]

what team you use?

[leaden mantle]

Either LR or Laeva comp.... yeah Ik I don't have physical or a gliberta. I suck at dodging as well. I could build one, but I working on another project (even if its pointless)

[daring dove]

EXP production overload, they'll work for days.

[summer flower]

you got split bonus?

[daring dove]

Ah one is buffing weapon EXP instead rip

[summer flower]

yea

on that note i'll check my factories assigment

had it incorrect

[pure spoke]

im usign my cope snowshine with 4 star sword its so bad

vs matadors

[summer flower]

snowshine doesnt need best weapon right?

[leaden mantle]

what did you use? Gilberta?

[summer flower]

i had one mismatch in exp factory

fixed but i'm running 2x bonus for mood 2x for production

[pure spoke]

needs a third red hair

[summer flower]

my gilberta doesnt have skills yet :C

wait pog is having double factory skills

O.O

[leaden mantle]

I'm a little tilted rn sorry. I don't think I'm gonna bother with this...

[summer flower]

i'm out of low level exp mats for operators

too much increasing

[daring dove]

Common problem, the back catalog of characters we all need to build is huge rn. I still have all these too go.

[leaden mantle]

I'm broke as well 😄

[daring dove]

Not that Panda Catcher or Alesh are ever getting built screw those guys.

[summer flower]

i got 8 lv 20

1 lv7

34, 41, 60, two 65, 78, 80, 80, 90, 80,90

a lot of spread tbh

ohh yea

its not finisher attack

its final strike

finisher attack is sequence

in which last of them is finial strike

got confused today

[daring dove]

I have been hyper focusing my resources to be honest, it takes about 350k T-Creds just to take a character from 80 to 90. It's pretty steep. Considering 350k is about 800 sanity.

That's ignoring all the other resources.

[summer flower]

what operators you got built?

[daring dove]

80 is the investment sweetspot rn I guess.

[pure spoke]

im super broke

[leaden mantle]

LR, Laevatain, the typical supports for fire team/ice team, with perlica

[summer flower]

soon there will be stamina discout right?

[torpid sapphire]

Real af

[daring dove]

Shotgun investment if I ever saw it.

[pure spoke]

what does shotgun investement mean xD?

like spread out?

[summer flower]

hmmm.... solidification for Crowd control?

[torpid sapphire]

Cos bro I dint even have a single 90 and I haven’t even done any credit

[summer flower]

keep them frozen as much as you can ?

ignore dmg skills focus on getting solidification?

[daring dove]

Yeah scattered all over the place

[pure spoke]

i also have a bunch of level 90 weapons

[leaden mantle]

until they dash out of it. I'm not going to bother with this, I'm done. this is just irritating to do. sorry if I'm bad.

[summer flower]

dash out of it?

[pure spoke]

ignore auroras weapon

[daring dove]

Same my biggest regret was getting Wulf's to 90.

[summer flower]

p5

[pure spoke]

damn so many 90

[summer flower]

i got only two to lv90

[pure spoke]

bruh p5

funding for endfield and arknights

[outer ermine]

[summer flower]

i got ardelia weapon to lv 80

[pure spoke]

its no fair

[leaden mantle]

tried to, but terrible at reading the animations (espically considering i repeat the same bad habits xd). its fine. Thanks for a bit of help then. i'm just gonna do other things rather than banging my head on my wall.

[summer flower]

try maybe later, you could upgrade team a bit

[summer flower]

dont worry chen got lv83 weapon

[pure spoke]

ye if its too hard just come back after 1 week if your team is better

[pure spoke]

did u play arknights?

[summer flower]

?

[pure spoke]

i was just memeing with " its no fair"

arknights ardelia/eyja song

[pure spoke]

90 when

[summer flower]

i only remember just surtr it meme

[summer flower]

first ember so i can do ember solo stuff

[elfin smelt]

my biggest regret was looking at this image

[elfin smelt]

wait where's

[pure spoke]

sry but my account is bricked

[summer flower]

i wonder is sundered prince stagger is multiplicative with stagger efficency

[elfin smelt]

on resources you mean

[summer flower]

wait nvm, wrong stats anyway

[elfin smelt]

think you're ready for the supreme chief

[summer flower]

question should be if supreme chief is ready for Chen

[pure spoke]

i mean no ember = bricked

[summer flower]

you see, if solo chen account is bricked without ember

[elfin smelt]

pulled p1 lae and gil, decides to go full physical anyway

respect

[summer flower]

ember is must have then

its p2 lae

[elfin smelt]

I think I can count, or you might be better than me

they start at p0 no?

[upper crescent]

Anyone know how well a level 80 team facing the level 80 RE:Crisis translates into the same level 90 team facing the level 90 RE:Crisis? Can I expect similar clear speeds?

I'm having fun experimenting with teams at level 80, but don't want to sink resources to make the carries level 90 unless I'm sure the performance translates well

[summer flower]

wait no

okay nvm

i read it wrong

or dude got p3 endmin

[summer flower]

hmmm... hard to tell

[bitter nebula]

guys does someone have tips for the agony mode of the second stage of the new mode?

the one with aggelos "bulls"

[drifting quest]

practice it till you can dodge it easily

10m to clear is extremely lenient

you can go slow

[plain heron]

what helped me was to learn their patterns and preserve as much stamina as I could, I run a team with akekuri lae wulf and ardelia so switching to wulf whenever lae was low or I was out of stamina helped me tremendously, since that way lae had higher chances of survival and she carried

[bitter nebula]

Damn from mobile this will be impossible T-T

[drifting quest]

worth putting the effort in now

it'll presumably only get worse

[plain heron]

I also got lucky and got them both in exactly the same spot so ulting them with lae was very very efficient

[bitter nebula]

[bitter nebula]

better use the Hot-work or the Ultra charge?

[drifting quest]

preference, slightly charge build biased on this stage

[bitter nebula]

yeah i'm also using that, because i noticed that sometimes the skill is too slow

[drifting quest]

generally the worse you play the better charge build will be

[gritty olive]

HW if you can properly get ult while the 2nd on hasnt spawned for me

charge set would want 207.7% ult eff tho

[drifting quest]

here charge build can be better to kill the first before the second spawns

[gritty olive]

[bitter nebula]

btw, what's "Exploration of mistery" mode?

[drifting quest]

and then its only 1 at a time to dodge

[bitter nebula]

don spotted

[drifting quest]

la creatura

[plain heron]

I personally use hot work

[bitter nebula]

i'm almost done with the essence of Laev

finally is 6/6/3

[gritty olive]

shuo

idk i want to do a lot but cant do everything

[drifting quest]

you see i have a lot i need to do but im procrastinating all of it

so i cant relate

[ocean hawk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1rckllm/chen_if_she_locked_in_rampaging_shields_chen_no/

[drifting quest]

wait why are you not in the tc group

[gritty olive]

??? #theorycrafting exists

[outer ermine]

[gritty olive]

[safe sand]

secret tc server cabal

[gritty olive]

[pure spoke]

whats your team?

[bitter nebula]

the usual Laev

[pure spoke]

oh then idk

[pure spoke]

ayo one of my people

[pure spoke]

i also did a no hit run

[pure spoke]

im kinda biased, but maybe use laeva + 1 chen. she can lift the bulls up while u pound them with your laev ult

or use snowshine block

it stops their charge

[midnight stirrup]

Accept fr goat

[leaden mantle]

My lave and LR are lvl 90 though. LR is level 9 on all skills and laeva has m3 on her ult and battle skill.

[midnight stirrup]

Or rather read dm i cant fr

[bitter nebula]

make sense

[pure spoke]

gl

[bitter nebula]

^^

[pure spoke]

you use both?

[leaden mantle]

Yeah. It’s more of a skill issue in my part. I haven’t maxed essences yet, but they are like in the middle.

[elfin smelt]

ey yo

asia refresh

[pure spoke]

first time i am seeing laeva + lr combo

[drifting quest]

daily rot seems to be entirely random

so we could have 3 sundering this week and then none for month(s)

[elfin smelt]

I take a blessing when I see one

[pure spoke]

i lowkey wanna buy sundering

bruh wtf

[elfin smelt]

yours is NA I assume

[pure spoke]

eu ye

[elfin smelt]

wait 12 hours

[pure spoke]

my sundering is only p2 rn

🙁

[elfin smelt]

mine is p1

[leaden mantle]

wait no I'm using them in different teams

not together if you're confused

[pure spoke]

xD oh

[leaden mantle]

or did you assume I was using them in seperate teams?

[pure spoke]

i assumed in 1 team

[leaden mantle]

okay.

[summer flower]

Hmmm... now that's tempting

[teal pawn]

just accidentally M1'd Pog's combo instead of ult

[proud vector]

too late now, time to m3

[daring dove]

Most of the characters combo triggers are low-key worth taking to M3 anyway since they have a second reduction on the combo trigger time at M3.

Problem is resources are so finite rn.

So there's 97 other things you could be doing first.

[neat snow]

Honestly the masteries are so underwhelming. When I hear mastery I usually think it'll transform the skill in some way but most of these are just slight damage increases to a skill that already isn't used for damage.

I think i have 30+ crowns right now with nothing to use them on

[tight haven]

im keeping 4 on me so i can insta-m12 whatevers next patch

if i like em

[pure spoke]

u need more than 4 to m12

[tight haven]

no you dont

10 from bundle + 10 from quota shop

thats 24 crowns

[pure spoke]

...

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[neat snow]

Yeah I'm buying every crown

[pure spoke]

if you say it like this you need 0 because you can buy 10 crowns from the quota now and after 16 days you can buy another 10

[tight haven]

well no because i bought all 10 from this patch already

[pure spoke]

and with bp you have 30

[pure spoke]

skill issue

[tight haven]

bp crowns take a few weeks to get...

[dry kindle]

Same as most normal arknights masteries

[bronze plume]

hello

[dry kindle]

At least most of the support breakpoints are m1

[bronze plume]

yeah masteries arent meant to be the you need this all the time its moreso just the same as other but needing special resources

at least some of them do have good benefits

think of it like lvl 10 skills in genshit but they are actually useable sometimes

[safe sand]

lifeng susc

[pure spoke]

hell nah miss me with the 3%

[safe sand]

9>10 for m1, 10>12 for m3

[pure spoke]

oof even less

[safe sand]

estella combo skill susc. goes from 10>15 at m1

[bronze plume]

soon

i will have perfection

[pure spoke]

estella does sus?

[safe sand]

[bronze plume]

i need 2 more crowns

for m12 ardelia

[safe sand]

if it consumes solidification yea

[bronze plume]

then ill have 2 m9 eyjas and 1 m12 ardelia

[bronze plume]

perfection

[pure spoke]

im surprised it took you so long for m12 eyja

[safe sand]

what "notable" support m3s are there anyway

[bronze plume]

thats because i m12 laev first

[pure spoke]

ah makes sense. but doesnt this mean your love for eyja isnt big enough?

[bronze plume]

no

i love eyja but i also love

clearing content easily

[pure spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-confused-scratching-head-gif-13701752054283237681

eyja solo clears

[bronze plume]

dont get me wrong ardelia is awesome and hot and cute and awesome

but m12 her is obv i waste of resouces

[pure spoke]

[pure spoke]

whats her atk?

[bronze plume]

after this pokemon match ill tell ya

its not much its not like i have her built for dps

[dry kindle]

The shit ones without m1 breakpoints

[safe sand]

[covert summit]

i saw some people saying that in their best teams yvonne performs worse or similar to last rite is that true

[bronze plume]

yes yvonne is worse then last rite overall for teams

[covert summit]

well thats quite unfortunate

[bronze plume]

agreed

[gritty olive]

@bronze plume dm

[summer flower]

@bronze plume it's M3 and r9

[bronze plume]

does that mean you want to dm me or

[bronze plume]

what is

[summer flower]

It's not m12

[bronze plume]

what

[summer flower]

It's m3

[bronze plume]

what are you on

[summer flower]

It's not M9 it's r9

Naming

[bronze plume]

its m12 if you have 4 m3

having all of them m3 is m12

[summer flower]

Ohh

Nvm sorry

[bronze plume]

context gang

[summer flower]

I thought you meant different thing

[pure spoke]

👍

[twilit quail]

because of endmin combo timing offset compared to 4/3/3 it's weird here, if the linked ult is better here you do 4/3/3

[bronze plume]

iana are you proud of my ardelia

today is a bad day for wuling stonks

[twilit quail]

even conan would need the cctv on this I think

where is the crit set

and slab

?

[summer flower]

This done trimmed for this umbral

[drifting quest]

did someone invite you to the side server / are you even interested

[twilit quail]

idc for it currently

[dry kindle]

🔥

[drifting quest]

fair

[twilit quail]

I dont want to join more servers

Im not joining any more without very good reason

[bronze plume]

does this name say what i think it says

[twilit quail]

yeah

[bronze plume]

lol

[summer flower]

grahpic for planned events?

[gritty olive]

the great TC exodus

[dire holly]

is this not better on Gilberta than the xiranite gloves? Xiranite Gloves give intellect (1) and will (2), and these will (2) and intellect (1)

[summer flower]

arent xiranite for ult gain?

or something like that?

[dry kindle]

Unless you're building the most blursed dps gilb possible no

[dire holly]

Yes, but if youd switch out 20% ult gain for these youd deal more dmg

[safe sand]

the thing is

gilberta as a support isn't designed to be doing much damage

within the whole of a team comp she is contributing maybe 5-10% of team damage, if even that

it's much better to build her to support the other 90% of team damage than it is to chase her own

[dire holly]

You guys are probably right, im not switching

[dry kindle]

A lot less than having a sane ult timer

[dire holly]

But still the stats would match her primary and secondary

so it be a smaller bit more than 20%

[safe sand]

^

[bronze plume]

stats matching means nothing for supports unless the stat benefits there support

[safe sand]

ardelia as a relatively pure support is pretty clear cut when it comes to this specific aspect

[bronze plume]

you do not build supports with dmg in mind

[safe sand]

what even is lifeng anyway

[bronze plume]

a dude with a missing arm

[safe sand]

[oak vigil]

Lei Heng

[safe sand]

swordmancer lifeng

ult eff is for nerds

ult once every 2 rotations

i guess it's just a waiting game for when we get ult eff pieces that match stats

[bronze plume]

and ult eff pieces that actually give a set bonus with max ult

[forest gazelle]

Need to ask, why is thermite > neverest on Pog?

[bronze plume]

granted that would be very funny

[safe sand]

never rest gives a dmg%-type bonus which is extremely common and diluted

[bronze plume]

imagine a set bonus with same ult gain as the 4pc off set we have but it buffs dmg on just like using ult

[safe sand]

compared to thermite cutter giving the relatively rarer atk%

[forest gazelle]

Isn't physical dmg calculated after atk?

[oak vigil]

If you are going for DPS Pog, Never Rest works better. But if he is not main DPS, Thermite Cutter just gives more damage bonus to other operators upon sp recovery

Never rest - 2.5% to other operators and 5% to himself
Thermite Cutter - 5% to an entire team

[safe sand]

yes, but all dmg% in this game is under one 'bucket' so to say. so things like physicaldmg%, ultdmg%, etc.
usually a character will end up having like +100% in this bucket accounting for gearing, weapons, etc

in comparison atk% is way harder to get, being only innately present on certain weapon lines/effects

a +10% to atk will increase your damage more than a 10% increase to dmg% will

[proud vector]

man is this going to mean less Shou and co in this chat? Aww.

[forest gazelle]

I just realise you can't possibly get 5 stack from physical compared to the easy thermite

[proud vector]

learnt a lot just shooting random questions here, oof

[bronze plume]

they call me random questions and im filing a law suit stop shooting me

[drifting quest]

idk about everyone else but ill probably be here way less

[oak vigil]

Also legit not worth it going for 5 stacks, while you can just do 2 stacks with thermite with much less cost and get equal damage buff of 10% for an entire team

[safe sand]

secret tc server ate you 😔 😔

[forest gazelle]

I wonder if i can give Akeguri Neverest then

[bronze plume]

icl im just here to talk about endfield #endfield is more 💀 then this chat

[drifting quest]

rightfully so

i only care for the tc and the tc quality here fell off a cliff

[proud vector]

the people will never be able to ask the right questions if they are missing foundational knowledge

[safe sand]

if you want a numerical example, consider a chara with +100% dmg% bonus and a +30%atk bonus, and you give it a 10% buff to either atk% or dmg%

a +10% atkbuff is a 140/130 = 1.076x increase to damage
a +10%dmg% buff is a 210/200 = 1.05x increrase to damage

[forest gazelle]

so true, help is so much more active 😭

[forest gazelle]

Don't undastand the calculation behind the dmg but i trust u

[safe sand]

basically when you have multiple multipliers that cost around the same to increase, it's better to try to balance/spread them out than put everything into one

[oak vigil]

Mmmmmh you can, although I don’t know if her ultimate would also count into it.

Does anyone else know if Akekuri’s ultimate triggers weapons “sp recovery - buff” conditionals?

Like her ultimate specifically, without combo skill

[drifting quest]

ultimate gens sp

[oak vigil]

Yeah, thought to just clarify to be sure, since I didn’t test out before if such conditionals work with ultimates sp regens or not

[oak vigil]

@forest gazelle then yeah, you can put it on her

[forest gazelle]

Welp, if i don't get lae's sig, she's gonna be my next after physical build ig

[proud vector]

Anyone in here tested ultimate gain from Arclight’s combo skill? I remember reading somewhere it was 5 per combo skill instead of the usual 10, would be good if I can get a fact check

[drifting quest]

its 5 yes

[gritty olive]

has there even been quality in tc

[drifting quest]

yes

[tight haven]

if gilbs rotations match your dps' (that is to say, if shes able to fit her ult right when your dps bursts) and using an ult set doesnt meaningfully introduce another burst window then its fine to use this to boost gilbs personal damage

it becomes better if you have gilbs sig because it has ult eff too

[drifting quest]

as you might expect the more dead tc was the better the quality was

but even as it became more active it was okay for a bit

[tight haven]

for 99% of players dps gilb isnt awfully relevant to build

[drifting quest]

past couple weeks, last week especially was the downhill

[proud vector]

Post launch flooded the chat with a barrage of questions yes

And memers

[bronze plume]

for 99% of players ardelia should be awesomely relevant to build

dps ardelia that is

[proud vector]

And most poisonous of all shitty feelscrafters like me

[tight haven]

im using xiranite chest, hot work gloves and 2 slabs for my dps gilb setup

[bronze plume]

the next time i see someone trying to feelscraft a unreleased/unshown characters kit imma flip

[tight haven]

xiranite chest is only there bc of convenience since its my only fitting artificed chestpiece

[proud vector]

It’s also because TC here is an uncategorised mess

[summer flower]

4hours of talk about tang tang

[proud vector]

With the different timeline and rotation styles getting mixed up and prodded as if they were the same

Speed kill priorities mixing with DPM maxxing rotations

big mess

And honestly post week 1 and the stable teams were crafted not much new stuff was really like

Even in consideration given how ahead in sheer damage mult stack the teams that worked are

[summer flower]

I don't had idea what tang tang gonna be, still have not after reading those messages

[proud vector]

And we still don’t have a clear outline for endgame given monument is extremely unstable to TC for, so I guess we just speed kill for trims

[summer flower]

We had Kirby ask for help for LR/laev teams

[proud vector]

and thus, TC stopped really TC’ing

[summer flower]

I wasn't able to help, i took advice from solo Chen clear

[proud vector]

I’m sure it will flare to life again post 1.1 but probably die again too

It’s a real shame speedkill is as fast as it is, it makes swap tech or combo skill as cancels and related much less impactful

[outer ermine]

me w 2 swaps in sub10 rot

[proud vector]

yeah it’s needed for optimisation but vs the impact it has over a minute fight you know?

like what’s it now, not stay on LR while ulting like a dum dum?

Swapping to Xaihi to turbo SP dump?

what DOES TC theorycraft nowdays in here yaknow?

[stone osprey]

Hey i would like to known what is the arknights endfield damage formula, the ones that agent deals, i search one more complex in internet however someone else pinned that formula and it seems quite diffirent and i would known which one is the correct one please ?

[proud vector]

I think in theory that’s the same formula

If the one on the right isn’t full and has the remaining brackets

Essentially arts reactions and bursts function in this game are calculated like skills - with a base damage multiplier. That multiplier just depends on level, reaction/burst type, and arts intensity instead of being a flat value unlike an ultimate skill which would be like 1400%

Since it’s a “general” formula

[tame sand]

whats TC

[proud vector]

For a reaction, the skill multiplier in the right one is 0 for a reaction since it uses the art intensity*mod, and for a skill, the opposite

So basically the same formula in the end just presented differently. The one on the right is formatted to work better in excel pretty sure

Theorycrafting

[tame sand]

theres still a lot of space unexplored in shatter

[proud vector]

eh, which one? Phys shatter or Yvonne shatter?

[stone osprey]

I see tysm

[tame sand]

both

[gritty olive]

#theorycrafting

[proud vector]

Estelle + enabler for shatter unfortunately pales in comparison to Pog Lifeng

Though the teams do not play the same (shatter is much more comfy imo)

[tame sand]

yeah well you running a 4 star as the sub carry

its not gonna do well compred to 6 stars

[proud vector]

so not a lot of people in here really bothered to explore much further than they have already

It’s not like they didn’t do the groundwork, Iana’s doc has a decent shatter timeline

[tame sand]

thats the most basic shatter

someone took it as gospel and thought thats meta

[proud vector]

gospel? I run shatter myself.

Comp is hurt by SP being a bottlenecked resource

Alesh is the most efficient solidification unit since he can provide cyro infliction and solidify by himself in just ~80sp

[tame sand]

I dont think sp is the bottleneck

[proud vector]

Estelle is mandatory for obvious reasons

[tame sand]

its estell's combo cooldown

[proud vector]

Nah

Did you know combo CD’s tick down during ultimate flash?

That’s around 6s of cooldown skipped per rotation

[tame sand]

most of the time i already got the resources but need to wait for her cooldown to come up

i know

but the first rotation has no ults

[proud vector]

oh we doing 0ult start

[tame sand]

no 2 sp is fine

[proud vector]

messy TC assumptions starts again

Sorry mb, 0 ult start

[tame sand]

full ult start is pretty much cheating

since the umbrals dont allow that

[proud vector]

But the trims do

[tame sand]

yeah you cam even use buff food

[proud vector]

alright, regardless, 0 ult start shatter

Depends completely on the attack target stagger timings

I’ve found that just a Chen skill > crush to set me up to full combo right at stagger for some of the monument stuff

Whereas a full rot would go too hard on the stagger and proc a bit early

What changes to the basic shatter team would benefit me the most here tbh?

[tame sand]

if sp is bottlenecking you

swap alesh for gil

[proud vector]

Hm

Nature infliction on ultimate yes yes

But I don’t see how this is better than Alesh?

[tame sand]

+1 vul in rot

[proud vector]

Ah, to remove Chen skill as well

Honestly, true!

[tame sand]

you save sp overall

from here its also easy to swap one unit for yvonne version

Ive seen teams swap chen/est for yvonne, not sure which one would be better

[proud vector]

So your cycle is

Gil ult
Estelle skill (85sp)
Estelle CS
Gil CS
Chen CS
Estelle ULT
Endmin CS
Crush/ult

Repeat

[tame sand]

if you have ult charge yep thats the max dps rot

no ult rot is -1 vul overall

[proud vector]

So you are expecting to get Gilberta ult like

Every second rotation? Or like hyper maxed ult gen

13 sp from skills and 10 from combo skill is such a pittance of ult energy

[tame sand]

I dont think its possible for ult every rot since gil has to run stanza

[signal sundial]

I decided to pull for thermite cutter on the gilberta weapon banner and got it in 20

Never punished

[proud vector]

Hmm

Stanza does help offset loss of thermite

[signal sundial]

Now I'm wondering if its worth pulling another 3 more times for a weapon pot

[tame sand]

no other cast weapon fit gil on this team

stanza is must

[proud vector]

and well the succ helps a lot in AoE

Estelle skills are large enough to hit everything gathered

So the AoE aspect works out well

[tame sand]

yeah mobbing is laughably easy with this shatter version

[proud vector]

Might still not really beat full phys, but this do be outside my knowledge atm

Also wouldn’t your bottleneck be Gilberta combo skill

That’s 20s to Estelle’s 18 on the same trigger

[normal tangle]

can gilb laeva comp work outside of trims

like it is comfortable/fun

[tame sand]

set bonus

[proud vector]

Gilberta succ is pretty good from what I gather

… let’s see here

90 cost

5 battle skills, 2 of which are discounted Estelle skills

30.55 ult charge + 2 combo skills so 50.55

78% ultimate charge to maintain every 2 rotation

[gritty olive]

depends imo

idk if the energy and sp are tight enough to make laev ult as often in arde comps

[proud vector]

Um

[tame sand]

wait thats 156% to ult every rot

might be possible with max gear

[proud vector]

uh

No?

Even fully artificed gear piece maxes at like 32~?% ult gain

And your chest will sandbag that

[tame sand]

nvm yeah you need sig

[proud vector]

You also can’t have combo skill cooldown and also hit the requisite ultimate gen requirements

Unless I’m giga blind

[tame sand]

its just one sp bar not big deal

[proud vector]

Frontier set doesn’t have an ult gain item

And you sure as hell not hitting 78% ult gen for an ult every 2 cycles with just 1 slot and a stanza

[tame sand]

wait is it not because frontier set bonus

gil always has her combo done before est

[proud vector]

Probably ultimate flash

Hm

No not even that, as Gilberta combo is at the same timing as Estelle combo

why IS your Gilberta coming off CD earlier

[tame sand]

are you sure gil is 20 sec

[proud vector]

Check the wiki or ingame

[tame sand]

there is no wiki so hard to look up level details

[proud vector]

…

I will link like

4 wikis at you now

[tame sand]

hit me

[proud vector]

https://endfield.wiki.gg

[tame sand]

I always had to look up in game

[proud vector]

https://www.prydwen.gg

https://endfieldtools.dev

https://endfield.gg

still…

Estella has to ult after energy gain from one crush + just her own battle skill and combo skill going from a non gil ult cycle into a gil ult cycle

That’s 2 battle skills and one combo skill worth of energy

oh right the fcking endmin

(This is not some da Peng crush I am assuming)

are you factoring in endmin’s rock cancer only returns 50sp not recovers it?

That screws over energy gain a TON, you’re like working with 1.35 battle skills worth of energy for Estelle to get her ult

6.5 + 2.275 + 5 + 10 =23.775
You’d need like 260% ult gain on Estelle lmfaoooo

[gritty olive]

hello can someone help me

if someone has gilb, laev, can someoen try this with two enemies:
[gilb bs -> ake bs -> wulf cs]surtr n5 -> surtr cs

this should be able to give her enough magmastack

[drifting berry]

I'm trying to see if it's any possible to push Ult efficiency gain on Gilberta further than 260% without compromising Xiarite, does anyone have any idea is there any other source of Ultimate gain that I could be missing?

Gilberta base Ult Gain 100% + Messenger's Song Gilberta's talent +7%, Delivery Guaranteed Ult gain lvl9 +46.43%, Xiarite kit lvl3 +32.0% x 2, Xiarite Gloves lvl 3 +26.7%, Tide fall armor lvl 3 + 16%.

[proud vector]

So you need to absorb the 2(x2) stacks from the two enemies

But where does the combustion or corrosion come from then to trigger Laev combo skill, the fire inflictions are succ before Gilberta corrodes them right

Or am I not understanding Laev right

[gritty olive]

gilb bs no?

[proud vector]

Oh can Laev absorb heat infliction and still have it on the target to react with?

Sorry laevless myself so idk

[gritty olive]

can you try doing gilb bs -> ake bs

if heat infliction stays

[proud vector]

I don’t even have gilb

[tame sand]

yeah no theres no way you are sacrificing est gears for ult gain

[proud vector]

don’t you brick me lmfao

[summer flicker]

🧱

[proud vector]

so yeah, big ouchie

[gritty olive]

🧱

[proud vector]

aaaaaa

[tame sand]

you are saccing too much damage for 1 vul every two rots

[tight haven]

it does

[gritty olive]

i love you enion

[tame sand]

better off just building est for damage

[gritty olive]

now i can properly calc her with confidence

[normal tangle]

me when i build eastern standard time so i can trim doritos

[proud vector]

the more you know

[tight haven]

the strat is to n2 with laev > gilb bs > ake bs once enemies are pulled > final strike laev > gilb bs explodes and inflicts nature

[proud vector]

Wait seriously though when they say Laev absorbs heat infliction the infliction stays? Thats wild

[tight haven]

then you can turn it into combustion with ake again to trigger gilb + laev cskill

if youre late though then gilb bs will eat all the heat stacks and inflict corro

[proud vector]

Ohhh now see that makes more sense

[gritty olive]

narumudo

[proud vector]

Yea this is missing an Ake skill

That’s why I was like “where corro/combust”

[gritty olive]

gilb bs -> ake bs

i thought that angelina bs is gonna provide nature infliction upfront

guess not

[tight haven]

gilb p4 but thats a pot

max artificing ult eff isnt worth it unless you have gilb p4 imo

after p4 it does unlock a breakpoint but i dont know any rotations where that breakpoint matters

[tame sand]

food buff

[proud vector]

Oh I thought the intent was gilb to succ close enough to Ake skill for initial 2 inflictions, and Wulf for 2 more since he triggers on inflictions caused

Then laev eats all 4 stacks, and gilb explodes leaving 1 nature infliction

At this point you need another ake skill to hit combustion to trigger laev combo

[gritty olive]

idk how that works so

enion is all i have

[proud vector]

that do be what enion said

[tight haven]

it doesnt

ults infliction is instant

bs waits for the explosion

[proud vector]

If it applied upfront you would end up causing combustions with Ake skill

Meaning you only have 2 heat infliction stacks from wulf to eat with Laev

that’s bad

[gritty olive]

im in class ill digest this later

[formal tapir]

if main attribute is will
does that make
main attribute boost = will boost?

[proud vector]

Yes

[formal tapir]

thanks

[proud vector]

arrghghfhh

It’s so annoying not having clairvoyance EX

The FOMO on Gilberta is strong as hellllll

[gritty olive]

i usually wont pull early supps

but for now im gonna be chill and pull faves

[midnight stirrup]

Tfw gilb is a fav

Win win

Can skip yvonne for now and save

[modest scaffold]

#help message doesn't this mean you should only use coolant gel for "very low" stuff

[tame sand]

never admit defeat

you will crit next time

[modest scaffold]

so in order, this is the most to least efficient use of coolant gel based on how much you're spending

this pains me

a few hundred sanity down the drain, literally

[dry kindle]

Idk why'd you ever use gel aside from 5>6

[summer flower]

I sometimes use on last level of pot ability

[bronze plume]

using it on not 5>6 or if really wanted 2>3

is just stupid

[modest scaffold]

this is my first gacha game

i was not very smart

[bronze plume]

tbf

its less about it being your first game in the genre

and more

common sense

[summer flower]

lemme say something in defense

hitting 5>6 in single roll feels good

[modest scaffold]

i kinda assumed coolant gel consumption was proportional to expected essence consumption. especially because its literally impossible to calculate with the data you get in-game

[summer flower]

does math even maths in this?

[tame sand]

math wise it doesnt matter outside of 1-2

[modest scaffold]

the math absolutely matters

[summer flower]

difference is less than 1/3 anyway

worst case to best case

so what? biting 10% or 20% loss?

i think more important is not rolling and using coolant on same level

just either one or other

[modest scaffold]

the difference between the 5 -> 6 and 4 -> 5 (smallest difference) is about +2.9% increase in consumption

[summer flower]

rest should be of not owrrying consequence

ehh

[fresh trench]

i know this sound stupid

do you think ardelia dps possible?

[summer flower]

ehhh

[modest scaffold]

okay i'll just send the full table intead

[valid zealot]

I'm not at liberty to judge free will.

[summer flower]

67% efficency

at worst

[fresh trench]

the snowshine dps is kinda hard to do

[valid zealot]

I dum I need tldr

[fresh trench]

i am maxxing her art damage but real damage come from her basic attack sadly

[modest scaffold]

TLDR: never spend coolant gel on an upgrade costs less than 250 (or you can waste up to 7.66% extra coolant gel)

[summer flower]

which data representation is better for this?

shouldnt it be reversed?

so baseline is worst case ?

[modest scaffold]

you're telling me to reverse the sorting error?

that request would be trivial, so I'd rather just give you the XLSX sheet for you to use yourself instead

[summer flower]

not sorting

[valid zealot]

Ty

[summer flower]

did i just saw 100k dmg on stagger break?

did it crit?

or was it 10k?

[bronze plume]

i mean possible yes

good

fuck no

[fresh trench]

trimmed?

do you think trimmed possible as ardelia

[bronze plume]

on bosses

no

[fresh trench]

😭

[bronze plume]

id be very surprised if you could get ardelia to have the dmg to be able to kill them in time

[gritty briar]

hmm, looks like someone got the wrong duration numbers for solidify

ignore the different damage multipliers. right image has level scaling applied

[fresh trench]

i have her like this

i wanna see if i can do the silly

[bronze plume]

pots mean basically nothing for her dmg

[fresh trench]

i know 😭

[bronze plume]

shockingly pots dont do much to increase the dmg of a characters whos kit was made to be a support

[fresh trench]

well i will do it as second side project then cause i have uh finish all quest and will get all chest soon i dont have much to do anyway

[bronze plume]

k

[neat snow]

Waste of time she will never deal damage

[gritty briar]

okay wiki is correct on this one. damage formula sheet is wrong

[fresh trench]

man i wish the game have their info public

[summer flower]

4:38 so far with solo ember hmm...

time to be checking different gear setups maybe

[edgy crater]

matador stage?

[summer flower]

rhogodan

[stiff eagle]

there are a couple solo ember trims, could take inspirtation from thpse

[fresh trench]

i have someone solo trim him with ember before

let me find his set up

[stiff eagle]

exemplar with 3pc aethertech is the strat ive seen

[summer flower]

yea, i dont have that, took jet over that

[fresh trench]

he use sundered prince tho

[wanton notch]

People solo trimmed it with Catcher too

And I think it was faster than Ember clear by few seconds

[stiff eagle]

whats the faster catcher

[wanton notch]

For solo clear it was Exemplar I am pretty sure. Sundered Prince for team play

[wanton notch]

1:51

[fresh trench]

i thinking of snowshine

[wanton notch]

Unless there's was new Ember clears, last one I saw with Solo Ember was 1:58-1:59. Not sure

[fresh trench]

i will took that advice and try it with snowshine later

[summer flower]

that's quite tight

[stiff eagle]

i think its faster

let ,e try and find one

[edgy crater]

should be slower

[wanton notch]

Snowshine have lower damage than Ember and Catcher, so I doubt you will get it

Unless you full crit on all finishers

[fresh trench]

ginseng

help me

😭

[wanton notch]

They have used it too

Time to crit malding

[fresh trench]

20% crit rate aaa

[edgy crater]

i can try if i want to 90 my snowshine

[wanton notch]

I still can't do with my Catcher btw

[fresh trench]

no damage scaling on defense really make me feel like snowshine is not getting enough love :<

[wanton notch]

Still need double crit finishers

[valid zealot]

He has one goal.

[fresh trench]

(she is good for support but illusion of freewill)

[wanton notch]

Even Catcher have something for damage from Def, even though it is ass

[stiff eagle]

https://youtu.be/lZhtqdz__28?si=jU7_uOPuH42sllE6

There’s this

[edgy crater]

whats hit stat without any gear n weap?

[stiff eagle]

same as catcher

[wanton notch]

Yep. Just wanted to say

Ember = Catcher

[wanton notch]

You mean damage from attacks?

[edgy crater]

nah, catcher stat at lvl 90

[wanton notch]

Oh, uno moment

[fresh trench]

i really feel sad she cant use half of her kits properly alone,she can use her cryo stack she cant use her solidfication ult her combo is healing that only usable on 40% hp 😭

[proud vector]

catcher can’t even lift

Poor fellah

[summer flower]

okay... i'm gonna check slab +swordmancer....

[fresh trench]

i did do snowshine last rite duo trim tho

[edgy crater]

its just lr solo trim lol

[fresh trench]

it is fun in duo

i hate dodging

[edgy crater]

nah i mean, u just do lr solo trimmed then add 1-3 trash so u can simply call it duo/team clear

btw, ur snowshine with khrav?

[wanton notch]

Here with Exemplar

[fresh trench]

the weird funny 5 stars great sword

forgor the name

[edgy crater]

which one?

[wanton notch]

He can Knockdown tho

[fresh trench]

dark lung?

[proud vector]

once in a blueeeeee mooooooon

[wanton notch]

Btw a question.

Is that Catcher upscale or Ember downscale?

[fresh trench]

i stil trying a lot of stuff

[wanton notch]

In a full team it's often enough actually

[edgy crater]

hmm yeah, really doubt snowshine can do it

[edgy crater]

aint dat lr cope weap?

[topaz lynx]

does the 120 token tribute pity repeats till u can p5 the op?

[wanton notch]

I have 100% trust too stats

[bronze plume]

every 240 you get a guaranteed token for the limited character that only resets once you hit that 240

[edgy crater]

i mean, this is snowshine at lvl 60 n i dont think 30 level wont be close to catcher

[fresh trench]

i still at phase at theory crafting with her,i coping that her skill is her main damage

[wanton notch]

Maybe someone have level 90 Snowshine to show

[edgy crater]

oi, koko, ss ur snowshine lol

[fresh trench]

1 second

[wanton notch]

Also, question.

Does Rhodagn takes less danage first phase?

Pretty sure my damage is lower even with equal amount of buffs in first phase

[edgy crater]

@wanton notch btw, how much ur catcher parry damage on matador?

[wanton notch]

Bulls? I haven't tested solo, because Baron did it before me

[topaz lynx]

240..? after you hit the first 120 guaranteed pity for a character, you'd need another 240 for a token tribute? 🥹

[edgy crater]

just test it

my snowshine only do 16-23k lol

[gritty briar]

no it's just a 240 from the start that is separate from the 120 guarantee

you just need 240 total

[bronze plume]

no after you get the 120 for the character its another 120 for the token