theorycrafting

[unreal light]

Not the Chen…

[west moon]

She's measuring unit

[rare zodiac]

Chen unit

[unreal light]

One rhodagn is 10 chens per second

Think about it

[copper walrus]

holyshit

[lost void]

Is character level 60 a good break point? I mean after unlocking equip gold gears?
Character level vs weapon level?

[west moon]

I think he is einstein

[copper walrus]

i could think of another context for this

[west moon]

not to be mistaken with epstеin

[modest thorn]

[copper walrus]

❓

[gritty olive]

Something like this

[unreal light]

I am not beating the allegations, am I

[west moon]

Is this ad at the top of the screen?

[modest thorn]

Said hornymonster calmly

[west moon]

this is wild pairing

[unreal light]

Better have them level 80, cause you need that base attack for essence to shine

[west moon]

[copper walrus]

hes beating it, and not the allegations

[west moon]

Can I beat rhodagn while beating myself?

[copper walrus]

....to rhodagn?

questionable choice but ok

[rare zodiac]

lmao

[west moon]

To avywenna, I field her

I field her so good

[lost void]

So it's case to case basis then depending if it's primary/secondary dps?

How about Perly vs Avy case? Who is priority? I haven't started doing intense promotion foy my electro team.

[west moon]

That's what I'm talking about, you need to play electro team

[elder skiff]

yvonne’s assets size analysis is actually better than building her and using her

[west moon]

yvonne catching strays

her character design is omegaboring

[unreal light]

Yeah, you do +4-6 on main dps, you have it like +3 at your sub dps, until the better times

[rare zodiac]

Yvonne design is so good, pink head, fat tail, cute demeanor, build in handle

[west moon]

Perlica is secondary dps. I'd say it's 6/4 if you compare their impact on the team

[unreal light]

Lifeng is peak design, his one hand resembles how players use only one hand, while playing him

[elder skiff]

first character to get a slandertrain instead of hypetrain in endfield

[lost void]

Can Leaf be primary DPS? Or is he just support?

[west moon]

Lifeng?

He's dub-dps

[modest thorn]

Is this a good build?

[lost void]

yes

[copper walrus]

[west moon]

Funnily enough, lifeng, chen and endmin do equal impact in phys dps teams if built properly

about 30%

and pogr is pogr

5% dps king

[lost void]

I'm still waiting on Zhuang and Tangtang though..

[west moon]

You are unloyal to perlica, that's atrocious crime

[unreal light]

Lifeng nuke is good, but once he loses ER, you lose dps cause crush is not as frequent

[west moon]

ER as emergency room?

yeah, he needs it sometimes

[lost void]

Seems like breach is better vuln stack consumer than crush? For the extra period of doing more damage vs nuke?

[west moon]

4/3/4 or 4/3/3

means, breach/crush/crush

breach is starter

[unreal light]

Breach = small damage, but good debuff

Crush is great damage, especially into said debuff

[lost void]

Breach on stagger? thoughts? Like use crush skill when stagger bar about to expire and debuffs/buff line up at stagger phase?

[rare zodiac]

just breach once in awhile to keep the debuff

[west moon]

Fangyi can't do this though

[unreal light]

Breach debuff is 30 seconds long

[elder skiff]

corro or susc is better for dmg output and overall team performance for ardelia

res down compared to susc at the cost of 100 sp

[west moon]

Imagine if you could share operators like in OG

[unreal light]

https://tenor.com/view/alec-arknights-thorns-gif-25292259

[unreal light]

I believe MiHoYo did it 4 years into Genshin

[rare zodiac]

if you can spare 100 sp always keep arde sus up

[lost void]

Hmm I don't have Pog pulled though.. Is he the only one who can provide breach? I only have Endmin, Max Ch'en and underbuilt Da Pan 🙁 so I can't really put things into practice but only though experiment 🙁

[west moon]

You had a free selector. what did you chose?

[rare zodiac]

Arde

[lost void]

Hmm I think it was Last Rite?

[west moon]

She's free

[elder skiff]

i see, ard’s corro is kinda mid after looking at it cause it doesn’t last long enough, still though, would performance be better if i invest all the sp into akekuri instead of ard’s susc

[west moon]

LR team that requires whaling

Interesting

[elder skiff]

[rare zodiac]

but the pot 5 tho

[oak vigil]

Yeah it is case by case basis

Avy HEAVILY HOGS all of it, wanting most buffs out of EVERYONE

But while focusing on Perlica/Antal/Arclight without Avy, due to buffing each other to the oblivion endlessly they all can DPS

Nothing wrong with either, nice variety

[rare zodiac]

why? ake bs only for heat stack

[unreal light]

Currently, yeah, he’s the only one

At 4 stacks and Breach debuffs with +24% damage for 30 seconds

If built in arts intensity, it’s up to +40% incoming damage

Breach itself damage is negligible

[elder skiff]

ake’s ult regen and also heat stack

[rare zodiac]

bro ...... sp usage recover energy for all the same

[elder skiff]

ic

[lost void]

Anybody tried using Aki same team with Ember?
I mean like dual phys+elem setup?

[rare zodiac]

Who? Ake?

[lost void]

Yeah the vanguard

[oak vigil]

Oh yeah also about arts intensity, does it only affect the arts reactions mixing (like electrification) damage scale or?

[rare zodiac]

if dual phys ele why not just use Estella Alesh combo?

[unreal light]

It also affects phys conditions like lift or knocked down

[lost void]

Some team relies on arts rxn than full stacks intensity right?

[unreal light]

Alesh ain’t phys

[lost void]

he has some phys damage. Cryophys actually.

[west moon]

Perlica does huge damage on finisher btw

[proud vector]

Alesh is not really used for damage anyways

[west moon]

Make use of it

Termination Protocol talent

[oak vigil]

Oooo
Okay then I have been doing my cycle wrong, I was using it for Arclight’s sp regen consumption (consuming electrification) for buffs and then nuking it all

Thanks!

[west moon]

Always bet on perlica when enemy is staggered, I got 200k damage out of it once

[rare zodiac]

2/3 of his dmg is phys

[unreal light]

Ty you’re right

[junior ridge]

Any Yvonne mains can help me with P1 Rotation?

I have trouble fitting Lynx Slab on her 3 infliction consumption rotation and I feel Tide Fall Armor/Redeemer seal should be the answer but she waste so much energy and lose status as well.

[unreal light]

What’s your team tho

[west moon]

Wulfgard main dps team?

[oak vigil]

Antal/Perlica/Arclight/Gilberta

I’ll reply in a bit to what they have, since I did write it here

[west moon]

Gotta make use of clannibal smh

[oak vigil]

@unreal light oop

[dusk isle]

@edgy crater @chilly bolt p3p0 lr can skip triag phase 2 "NO CRIT"

[elder skiff]

i do tide fall armor and do bs 1 ice stack consumption + bs 3 ice stack consumption + combo for ult

[west moon]

Perlica main dps?

[rare zodiac]

Yvonne need 5 infliction consume to get to ult

[unreal light]

Interesting

[lost void]

I think he functions somewhat like Perlica? Like forced electrocution/solidification.

[oak vigil]

AND Antal AND Perlica AND Arclight buffing each other to oblivion, so they ALL deal damage
(Gilberta only gets half of the buffs due to not being electric user)

[unreal light]

Arts intensity adds more stagger on lift

10x (1+Arts/200) is the formula

[rare zodiac]

doesn't that not generate enough ?

[proud vector]

Yes but Perlica actually has a bit of dmg kek

Alesh prints some SP and solidifies, which is good nuff all things considered

[oak vigil]

O- I didn’t know about that actually, noted

[elder skiff]

tested it with max artifice tide armor, it’s only enough with p1

not with p0 though, needed that extra ult regain on cs

[lost void]

Arts intensity is priority for arts rxn users? corrosion/solidification, etc and the phys status?

[unreal light]

And so it does in knock down

[west moon]

Arts intensity doesn't boosts arts damage, it just empowers inflictions

such as bursts and reactions

[unreal light]

Yeah

Whoever consumes the stacks to apply some status is affected by arts

[chilly bolt]

mine only p2

[elder skiff]

arts intensity corro applier gilberta

[dusk isle]

get your critting rod and fish for crits if you want the chinese tech

[rare zodiac]

(46.5+25+106.5)x1.16=206.48

[dusk isle]

i hope you get a copy of lr on some banner if you're planning on doing this tho

[lost void]

How well does it translates to raw damage though? like say instead of investing in atk% or probably shattered?

[chilly bolt]

Have you seen, stagger maxing gil

[rare zodiac]

where is the rest? 13.5?

[lost void]

I think it works specially on her combo

[daring dove]

Da hell is this, how am I supposed to make a buck on the stock market with this.

[dusk isle]

what is this masterpiece im witnessing, can you send the vid i wanna see how fast it stacks stagger

[oak vigil]

I would rather recommend you to save up stocks for tomorrow, so you can buy 100 at better price and then sell it

[chilly bolt]

It's from one of the vids of that yz guy

[lost void]

That would probably work best on stagger team like with Ember.

[chilly bolt]

I forgot which one

[west moon]

Why we don't get pull currency for trims?

[lost void]

Slav?

[elder skiff]

does this include +15 from p1

[unreal light]

Well, it depends whether you run a dps chara or not

for endmin you want both the atk (+ dmg bonus) and arts intensity, as crush scales from both

For Pog you don’t care about atk as long as he debuffs for +40% incoming damage

[west moon]

buy 50 of the cheapest one and forget, if you are at limit

[rare zodiac]

yeah?

[chilly bolt]

The guy that keeps posting LR+Yvonne videos to brick people's account

[lost void]

I'm not sure about my gear choice on him being Bonekrusha since I pair him with Ember 🙁

[lost void]

He does have Ember right?

[unreal light]

As long as you beat the content you want, your build is good

[rare zodiac]

wait i haven't account for ally BS to get to those 4 stack

[west moon]

Chat, theorycraft this

[rare zodiac]

yeah i it's barely enough

[unreal light]

A WOMAN

[chilly bolt]

Perli jumpscare

[west moon]

Swimsuit skins when?

[unreal light]

Chen alter awaits

[oak vigil]

Okay so she is really aerodynamic, I might be able to hit Dijan from here

[west moon]

dumbass gonna wear submarine on her head

[unreal light]

What a nice way to call someone flat

[oak vigil]

I didn’t mean it that way, but I see it now, oops

well damn

[west moon]

Flat is beatiful too

[rare zodiac]

flat is justice

[west moon]

Much better than oversized disproportionality

Guess whose design I'm slandering

[unreal light]

A gunless sankta

[chilly bolt]

I mean you look at this and think wow 24s rhodagn, then you look another vid of LR doing it on her own with only 14s
【【终末地】别礼/伊冯 合轴启动 24.21s罗丹 ，冰系梦之队-哔哩哔哩】 https://b23.tv/UCvN6ha

[unreal light]

And that Eula ripoff

[west moon]

Her tail is so huge that it's physically cannot be placed in anatomically correct place, so they planted it IN THE MIDDLE OF HER FLIPPIN SPINE

[oak vigil]

Either Last Rite, either Ember

[west moon]

😭

[oak vigil]

nvm you meant Yvonne

💔

[west moon]

Last Rite issue is not ratio, it's damn clothing

that is simply rags

[oak vigil]

Yeaaah

[unreal light]

She is fat

[chilly bolt]

I agree LR outfit just doesn't make any sense

[west moon]

Ember is fine, except that it's weird that if you remove her armor then it's just tights with panties

Literally

[unreal light]

She has no gun

The hell is that

[valid zealot]

Average #theorycrafting activity.

[twilit quail]

yo do people calculate expected crit value roughly or like

[west moon]

Ts escaped from lore room

[twilit quail]

properly

[west moon]

Crit only matters on yvonne

Yvonne doesn't matters

Does that fulfills your inquiry?

[unreal light]

How come only gun operators are some damageless lizard and furry boy

[drifting quest]

roughly since you cant technically do it properly

[unreal light]

Why don’t we have a tank with a revolver

[west moon]

Fluorite actually trims bosses if you build her properly

[oak vigil]

Tbh I wish there were more characters with faster attacks so the kit crit would be useful

Maybe with Fluorite also works, but still

[twilit quail]

where cr is p cd is r
C(p)~bernoulli(p)
and expected dmg is
H=1+rC(p)

[unreal light]

Anything trims bosses in this game

[chilly bolt]

Trimming is ez in this economy

[twilit quail]

or do we not bother

[elder skiff]

it’s just enough for one ult with 1 stack + 3 stack rotation (sorry for the frame drop, my phone is overheating because i’m on it for several hours)

[twilit quail]

and just go

[lost void]

hack?

[twilit quail]

hehe divided by whatever

[elder skiff]

@rare zodiac

[drifting quest]

depends how much you care

[twilit quail]

cause I cant be fucked to work with bernoulli's

[drifting quest]

some just say okay every x will crit

[west moon]

Next steel oath operator better be looking like this

[unreal light]

Roughly 4.3 rhodagns per minute

[west moon]

Can you trim marble with solo yvonne?

[lost void]

You mean AKOG sentinel defender? Why only revolver if there can be macho gun or RPG

[twilit quail]

and there's also uhh

this cursed little thing

I should use it but I wont bother

[unreal light]

I don’t have her, look up on bilibili, it’s prob already there

[west moon]

What in the einstein is this

[west moon]

Doubt it, she can't inflict cryo

[valid zealot]

Hai iana.
Do you do new dmg calc formula TL.

[lost void]

definitely with Xai.

[twilit quail]

Im just going to add a rudimentary expected crit value column then

[drifting quest]

series expansions to calculate crit

[unreal light]

They decided to drop the unique to every operator weapons from og ak

So we have current weapon system as it is

[twilit quail]

Im repurposing my doc into like a template

[drifting quest]

most of the calcs ive seen are just haha i have 20% crit so every 5th hit will crit

[twilit quail]

like this

[west moon]

Can you be approximated cause you are diffentiable, or are you differentiable cause you can be approximated?

[lost void]

There's definitely going to be more in the future. Like staff, bow/crossbow, shield

[unreal light]

Ni hao

[twilit quail]

kurogames classic

every character is different weapon type

ideal

[terse furnace]

Oh, have you guys seen the reddit post flaming Iana's doc? lmao

[gritty briar]

i wonder if we'll get new 4 stars if they ever add new weapons.
Currently it's one per weapon type

[twilit quail]

this is a really like

[lost void]

I mean they can introduce new set of weapon class and have their playstyle differently. Imagine a wulfguard alter being an assassin/striker.

[twilit quail]

dry and lame way to say it

[gritty briar]

it would kind of ruin the one 4 star per element thing they got going on though

[west moon]

Different recs I guess

[oak vigil]

Eeeeegh I honestly heavily doubt it. 4 star weapons already cover all of the really specific non-significant niches

4 star operators? Good. But not weapons

[gritty briar]

no i mean operators

[valid zealot]

Enlighten me.

[oak vigil]

Oh if you mean that way- Then yeah, I hope there will be more

[terse furnace]

Lol well it was just some guy getting worked up over someone making a doc for meta, when the reality is that nobody needs to follow the meta if they don't want to. Was a really weird crashout post

[twilit quail]

大奶 is the colloquial way to say big boobs

[west moon]

Mods are here?

[terse furnace]

duh

[gritty briar]

we have one 4 star op for each weapon type/element/class(except striker because there's 6)
so adding new weapon types would upset this balance

[chilly bolt]

Rip bro

[gritty briar]

striker 4 star op when?

[west moon]

I'll just leave until mods go to sleep again

or get a job

[scenic radish]

I should probably ask here. Should I try to get matching essences for all my 5 and 6* weapons or are there 5* weapons that are objectively not worth investing in?
I have matching ones for my DPSs already

[unreal light]

Too much rice, it rises

[oak vigil]

rice theorycrafting 🧡

[valid zealot]

So "wo ai da nai"?

[scenic radish]

big

[unreal light]

I like big rice

[drifting quest]

depends on weapon

[chilly bolt]

Usually you only want the 3rd line for 5* weapons cuz most of them are non dps

[drifting quest]

some 6* are not worth investing in

some 5* are worth investing 1, 2 or 3 lines into

[lost void]

for promotion or alter... It's the usual thing from Arknights so It's not farfetched if the 4 star Endfield operator switching weapon/role with their alter 5 star version.

[unreal light]

Wo ai da rice

[west moon]

Rapid ascent or sundering steel

[drifting quest]

SS unless you have rascent pots or plan to get them

[unreal light]

Depends on your playstile

[oak vigil]

Detonation unit 6* only fitting for Perlica while her signature 5* does it better by 10 times as an example lol

[unreal light]

Sundering steel has to be properly stacked

[west moon]

How about aspirant?

[unreal light]

The worst option

[valid zealot]

Aspirant suckass

[drifting quest]

aspirant is okay if you somehow do not own a sundering steel

but just get a sundering steel

[oak vigil]

iirc Detonation Unit weapon triggers on arts infliction, but you use her skill ever-so-rarely

[unreal light]

It’s easy to lose a stack of Sundering before the ult goes off, so for people who don’t pay attention to their rotations, perchance ascent comes out as stronger

[silent hound]

does the final strike +50% buff affect the last hit from yvonne ult?

[drifting quest]

i have to admit it
if you're dropping sundering stacks you should reconsider your rotation

[terse furnace]

each stack lasts 20 seconds and there are 2 of them lmao, how ar eyou dropping stacks?

[scenic radish]

I have grand vision for endmin and jet for avywenna, but I think I have clannibal, thermite, the goat one we got for free,
As far as I can tell we don't get any rate benefit for matching essence etchings, so I guess it doesn't hurt to go for stats on many weapons?

[unreal light]

Well start with those weapons that you have or are planning to have

Don’t bother with those that are lying idle, without any use

[west moon]

Oblivion fits perlica if you don't want to make her support

(I don't)

[unreal light]

There are cases

[west moon]

She has good damage ratio on the team

[terse furnace]

It triggers on arts burst btw

[oak vigil]

Speaking of Oblivion, Oblivion is the GOAT of 6* weapons, technically fits everyone to make anyone dps

[unreal light]

Rhodagn is a good example, when you start your ulti rotation as he starts his second phase

[west moon]

One thing about essenses, I don't recommend going 6/6, cause last upgrade is only 2,5% chance. Go for 5/5 instead, difference is minor

[chilly bolt]

Reminds me of antal dps maxing...

[oak vigil]

hi i am literally here doing the said thing running Antal dps loool

[unreal light]

These are the essence chances

If anyone wonders

[scenic radish]

oh did someone dive for that or are those guesses?

[lost void]

skill essence max at 4?

[elder skiff]

99% of gamblers stop on 5/6 before hitting big

[chilly bolt]

Wait i remember there's another guy that calls antal an*l, or that's... You?

[oak vigil]

dude hell no!

What

[west moon]

I really don't recommend going for the last one, I wasted so many essenses on this

Could've upgraded other essenses instead

[unreal light]

Oh wait he calls antal anal

[oak vigil]

“yeah I run an*l dps team”

[unreal light]

I never got the joke

[elder skiff]

6/6/3 for 1 dps and 0/0/3 (maybe 0/6/3 if ult regain) for supports, what essence do you even upgrade after that

[west moon]

I remember someone saying "I have 200% trust with anal"

[elder skiff]

[chilly bolt]

Honestly also took me a while to figure

[scenic radish]

I guess I will see if there's a reliable weapon tierlist for any weapon I'm not currently using, but I am still running stuff like wild wanderer on perlica and obj on gilberta, sundering steel on chen.

[unreal light]

The fuck why do you need that obj for your anal

Please don’t put it anywhere near

I beg of you

[west moon]

Why not upgrade everything, I've got a lot of time before I'll pull next character anyway

[scenic radish]

I think I will just shift thermite cutter between pog and akekuri until the game makes me field multiple teams

[unreal light]

23 charas in the game, you don’t have the resources to upgrade everything

[elder skiff]

can’t be bothered to spend resource for negligible damage

[west moon]

I'm more interested in new 5 star characters than 6 stars, cause you can actually pull them without depositing your whole credit card balance

[unreal light]

That actually is not quite true, the higher your essence goes, the more stat it adds

[unreal light]

Cause they’re not a hagslop, I’d rather say

[drifting quest]

if you've trimmed all 3 bosses, trimmed umbral

who cares

you can invest later if we get harder content

[elder skiff]

read the original message first

[drifting quest]

3 days to 2nd umbral

[west moon]

I like 4-5 stars designs way more than 6 stars

[elder skiff]

i’m just gonna hog resources until there’s a need for a second team

[scenic radish]

I stopped when it said very low, I will go for those stats down the line

[elder skiff]

can’t be bothered with upgrading anything rn

[unreal light]

Trimmed all the bosses, huh? Cool but have you tried trimming your nails

[west moon]

I'm in resource debt, cause I invested into arclight on the game launch pretty much

Turns out she's worse tha ake

Who would have thought

[drifting quest]

as a matter of fact I have (2 days ago)

[unreal light]

Thank you for this information

[scenic radish]

afaik she's still good with avywenna, I just like akekuri aesthetics over arc

[unreal light]

Should have told earlier

So I could pull off that joke on someone else

[west moon]

But can you trim your bodyhair?

[unreal light]

Dip your balls in sulfuric acid

Now

[drifting quest]

trimming it is

questionable

[unreal light]

It adds 0.01% dps

[scenic radish]

I should do those trims sometime.

[unreal light]

You’re running faster cause aerodynamics

[scenic radish]

I probably have the stats

[west moon]

I'm one agony away from umbral trim

I hate getting damage simply for existing

If second and third stage can be completed by pure skill, first one requires maxed squad

and that's all

[unreal light]

Ardelia lvl 60 does the job

[west moon]

My arde is underleveled for this job

[unreal light]

Ember

[scenic radish]

I slapped rhodes island set (lynx?) on goat and ignored the damage over time

[west moon]

even worse

[scenic radish]

just get goat to 60 and wear that and you never run out of hp

[drifting quest]

first does not require maxed squad

[edgy crater]

yeah, needing p3 again

[drifting quest]

ive done it both healerless and with an uninvested team

[west moon]

You do need shitton of dps to do it under 2 minutes

cause that's average team lifespan in the mist

[unreal light]

Actually none requires maxed squad

Just take a healer and fight for 10 minutes

🤓

[drifting quest]

i did it in like 4 with level 60 yvonne

idk how long it took for phys sustainless i didnt pay attention

[dusk isle]

p3 might not be necessary with some tomfoolery, but i dont know tbh, i just did 1 attempt and it worded

[unreal light]

Phys sustainless starts dying around the time last mob goes out

[west moon]

I tried running arde, but her healing coudn't outpace damage and I just died anyway

Apparently I need her healing talent maxed

no prisms

[unreal light]

What team do you run

[elder skiff]

umbral stage 1 = ember upscale

[west moon]

Default electro

[scenic radish]

you don't need to level the talents, just wear lynx set

[edgy crater]

nah, its necessary unless gacha crit

[cinder oxide]

Holy hell ascent is a lot stronger than I thought

I thought its mult was the same as phys dmg boost

But its on dmg TAKEN

Which is a whole other mult

[unreal light]

Doesn’t antal heal tho

[dusk isle]

im not even joking when i say this but...
with dps perli it might be possible

[unreal light]

[west moon]

antal healing set

new meta

[unreal light]

[cinder oxide]

Wait no huh

[scenic radish]

brb making antal dps build

[west moon]

are there any benefits on 200% thrust with operators?

[dusk isle]

having less arts intensity on phase1 might slow it down a tiny bit, but if you get your perli to do atleast decent damage with her ult it is possible

[edgy crater]

well, let me get max stanza 1st

[unreal light]

Huh

[scenic radish]

they get weak legs from too much thrusting

[cinder oxide]

Im wrong I think but not damn sure

Is dmg dealt the same as phys dmg boost and combo dmg boost?

[unreal light]

You unlock their stories, that’s all, no gameplay or oroberyl impact

[cinder oxide]

I have no fkin idea

[west moon]

that's not benefit

[unreal light]

It is

[cinder oxide]

Damn nvr mind ascent is as weak as I thought

[scenic radish]

is 200% trust the cap? I stopped at 100 but might want those stories

[cinder oxide]

Arts intensity still cooks

[west moon]

yes, but you get only 5% a day

with 3 gifts

It'll take you 20 days

Do you think that fluorite can use her tail as a whip to deal additional damage?

Monitor lizards can do that

[unreal light]

She does use it in bed actually

[west moon]

🤨

Fair

[unreal light]

I-I ugh…

[west moon]

True reason why people like lizard tail:

[unreal light]

Theirycraftjng rice yeash

[next helm]

[mystic halo]

you are afforded privileges here because people are generally reasonable

but if you stop being reasonable

things may change

[drifting quest]

Its been bad here recently

Past week or two

[west moon]

More like, last month?

Like when game was released

[mystic halo]

oh wait I think I know what the problem is

[unreal light]

[west moon]

Fare thee well, image perms

[unreal light]

Nah it’s still working

[ripe parrot]

aside from like weapons, what are the most common ways to gain phys DMG %

[tight haven]

yeah some people are getting a little too comfy posting weird shit in this channel

[tight haven]

swordmancer flint

[ripe parrot]

oh right yes that is indeed a kit

i've been so aethertech pilled i forgot about that

oh wait

aethertech also has phys damage on it

maybe i'm just stupid?

[mystic halo]

aethertech 👺

set with 1 user

[drifting quest]

It's a combination of like excessively long off topic, some more weird/deranged off topics and then things like arguments over TC when people disagree over things

seems to be several times a day nowadays when people will suggest things against the grain and then start arguments when called out on it or asked for proof / etc

[mystic halo]

unfortunately Im simply not available sometimes so lol lmao

[fading fog]

which team has a higher ceiling?

[edgy crater]

bottom should be higher

[ripe parrot]

AKSHULLY chen uses it ||as a viable solo gear set||

[twilit quail]

last notable one(solo hard gas stage) was 3x sword

so idk

[tight haven]

xaihi gilb alesh

[drifting quest]

crazy how Yvonne has TWO team options (last rite, shatter) where you gain more by converting the team into being built around them than you do commiting to said Yvonne team

[tight haven]

me when i make any team you put me in worse

[drifting quest]

i do think yvonne kit is decently novel so I hope they give her some sort of bailout

[ripe parrot]

for chen i'm assuming rapid ascent?

[drifting quest]

kit buff, good support, favourable content

[twilit quail]

sundering lol

[ripe parrot]

oh really

[twilit quail]

p3 sundering

at that

and missing artifices

[fading fog]

I think she has 3, hyper, shatter and then last rite duo

[unreal light]

NEVER REST BELIEVERS

It’s your time

[drifting quest]

its going to be so funny if tangtang is a physical payoff and wants never rest

[ripe parrot]

i've been doing some calcs and I've been thinking that I'd convert to swordmancer now that I have M12

[frozen tide]

Lr yv duo is just taking 30 percent lr output and 50 percent yvonne output

Numbers are feelscrafted

[quasi quarry]

it's a good thing thermite is great everywhere

[fading fog]

after trying out all 3 variants lr duo def feels the weakest

[quasi quarry]

holy shit i missed like 3 words there

I think my brain is shrinking

[ripe parrot]

but I think the increase from aether to swordmancer in a solo setting is so marginal that it's not worth re-investing

[fading fog]

shatter vs hyper has a tradeoff of less SP vs more stagger

[twilit quail]

do you think pretty colours would make it easier for the average user

to use the calc template

[drifting quest]

yes

add this

[copper walrus]

we call it the taillock

[twilit quail]

ok i will add the pretty colours

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/allianz-direct-key-swinging-car-keys-gif-17689328

this should help too

[twilit quail]

I guess this will do

[weak meteor]

Eminent actually better on chen if sundered effect rank is the same

[frozen tide]

Is p5 sundering better even if you get a rly good stagger cycle

[twilit quail]

p2 ascent barely wins

in that situation

[frozen tide]

Dayum

[twilit quail]

if youre using standard set

sundering is just an unbelievable stat stick

[frozen tide]

Accounting p5 thermite as well?

[twilit quail]

you have to do some fucked up shit and take a slab

[frozen tide]

Sundering is just goat ig

[twilit quail]

for ascent to draw it out more

[ripe parrot]

RA really shines on like rhod where almost all your burst comes in like two stagger windows

[frozen tide]

I don't even think this is leak

Theres promo material

With tang tang with a gun I think

[drifting quest]

there is yes

[frozen tide]

She'll surely save the hand cannon industry

[drifting quest]

one of the trailers

[fading fog]

doesn't she literally use it in the story at some point? or was it a trailer video, I def saw official materail with it

[quasi quarry]

I mean mi Fu uses gauntlets and that's not an actual weapon type ingame

[frozen tide]

In the story she uses a literal hand CANNON once

More cannon less hand

[ripe parrot]

also @twilit quail could you care to link the solo gas run?

I just dismissed it as not worth the effort, but if people have already cleared it, then I might do my own attempts

[twilit quail]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1nqcizoEZX/

this guy's gear

[ripe parrot]

thank you kindly

[twilit quail]

is kinda just ass

btw

so if you cant do it uhhh

skill issue

I guess

missing artifices

missing steel dupes

missing pots

[drifting quest]

something something 'gas stage requires fully invested team to clear'

[frozen tide]

What gear would you rec

[drifting quest]

a common take people will make

[fading fog]

I assume OBJ needs at least 1 or 2 pots to beat out valorant on estella right?

[ripe parrot]

i'm already assuming it's gonna be like 99% good use of CS on chen

[frozen tide]

It was so funny when people were like "where are the no sustain clowns now"

[ripe parrot]

because her aoe is pretty non-existent otherwise

[icy remnant]

If only sundering steel didn't look so ugly like it was picked out the garbage

[twilit quail]

man now that I lay it out like this

that's a lot of columns

[frozen tide]

Isnt obj for ult bp

Cause estelle needs to ult a lot

[neat snow]

Me when I hold 1 on Laev

[ripe parrot]

wait

[frozen tide]

Nvm

[ripe parrot]

you don't need to kill dogs for the gas mini boss

oh that changes a lot actually

[frozen tide]

I thought all objs have ult gain

The spear does not

[ripe parrot]

i have been enlightened

[fading fog]

nah it's literally BiS stat and passive wise for stella

[frozen tide]

Im guessing its used for atk percent buff then

[ripe parrot]

oh man i'm feeling really good about solo gas agony now

[frozen tide]

Trend with atk percent weaps being rly good

[twilit quail]

ok

dont use valiant on her

[fading fog]

I'm just not sure how big the diff between having a better base atk vs having a usable attribute is

[ripe parrot]

this will be way more fun than solo unorthodox tactics

[summer flower]

gas stage? they have changed to just have enough dps

[quasi quarry]

I cleared it while still on 4 star gear

[drifting quest]

yeah i mean

i cleared it with l60 yvonne

i already knew

[frozen tide]

Attribute bonus from weapon is massive

[fading fog]

ye that's why I'm thinking as well

which is why I started levelling it

my main issue with stella tho is the available gear

[frozen tide]

It would need to be an extreme circumstance where you have a shitload of attribute percent but lacking base atk for a 6 star weap with non matching attribute to give more atk

[unreal light]

2 mainstat points = 1% atk multiplier
5 substat points = 1% atk multiplier

[frozen tide]

Not to mention razorhorn has a better suited effect

[ripe parrot]

the point stands for the casual player who does not minmax rotations and damage efficiency but yeah i'm pretty sure the majority of tryhard people knew gas was always just a soft dps check lol

[unreal light]

So if your spear gives you 130 mainstat, it is +65% multiplier for your base atk

[twilit quail]

if you hit the enemies the stage will end

[frozen tide]

Dps check looks inside can clear with solo no sustain

[neat snow]

Me when I'm a redditor that has to do something besides hold down mouse button

[frozen tide]

Would be nice if estella had a good 6 star option

[unreal light]

Mountain bearer

[frozen tide]

Yeah jet is arts dmg and the 2 lifeng spears are agility

[unreal light]

[fading fog]

gear sets are also ass with like only one will strength piece existing

[unreal light]

Actually mountain bearer increases all the attributes by 25.6%

[oak vigil]

Did you know that by pressing M1, your operator attacks? It’s crucial to defeat the enemies!

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[fading fog]

like is there a better option than this atm?

[frozen tide]

I mean i wouldn't be surprised if p5 mb was better than p5 razor but like

If its comparable that's an issue

[unreal light]

Make sure your enemy health points end sooner than yours

[twilit quail]

she generally just takes xiranite

it's not really worth trying to deal dmg on the char

missing out on too much from being 4*

[oak vigil]

Tbh as for the equipment which isn’t golden, you can just assign by stats/equipment bonus which fits

Like there is 1 equipment set which refunds you 50 sp from using a skill (once per battle) as an example

[daring dove]

Think this thing will be better than Stanza once I get it P3-P4?

[twilit quail]

she's like a

much more narrow lifeng in spirit

[frozen tide]

On electro yeah

You can't use deto perlica unless its ele to start with

[sterile patrol]

stanza on electric team

[drifting quest]

to buff the dps gilberta

of course

[frozen tide]

You can't keep calling every spear user a lifeng variant

He can't keep getting away with this

[daring dove]

So she just rocks Stanza on LR team?

[drifting quest]

all 3 of them

[frozen tide]

Yes

[fading fog]

applies phys susc, applies 2 stacks of vuln, uses a spear, she is basically lifeng

[frozen tide]

Stanza is bis for perlica on non electro basically always unless you have someone else using stanza

[daring dove]

An this for Xaihi?

[oak vigil]

Although I wonder, do their susceptibility stack with each other? Like if used in a single team with each other

[frozen tide]

Its fine for xaihi

Deto is preferable

[unreal light]

Eh it’s not working if your health is full

[frozen tide]

Unless ur doing nature dps shenanigans

[frozen tide]

It does work

Even at full hp

Lin tested it

[unreal light]

The heal does not proc

Huh

[frozen tide]

It procs it just doesn't heal

[unreal light]

What a puzzle huh

[fading fog]

I'm pretty sure all sources of susc add together but correct me if I'm wrong

[frozen tide]

But even still deto is generally better

Esp if you have stanza

[edgy crater]

chivalric still trigger even with full hp?

[daring dove]

I'm guessing that weapon at P4 is still going to be better than Detonation unit at P2 though even with the bit of ATK saturation.

[frozen tide]

Yes

[frozen tide]

Would be rly close

Like very very close

[drifting quest]

its coded as a heal

is the assumption

[frozen tide]

Might have to do calcs yourself if you wanna settle that

[drifting quest]

even if you are max hp you get healed for the amount

and chiv then procs

[frozen tide]

It heals your spirit

[daring dove]

Yeah sure, would be nice to know.

[safe nymph]

bro

[daring dove]

But I'll do it once I have the team built.

Be easy to test then.

[safe nymph]

is crit even with using ever on anyone

[drifting quest]

yvonne

outside of niche edge cases no one else cares

[safe nymph]

edge …

[frozen tide]

Forbidden crit laev strategy

[daring dove]

Maybe Ember with Sundered Prince, since you have nothing else to really build on her in a damager dealer build.

I reckon you could get Ember over 50% CR.

We're talking abused levels of investment though

[frozen tide]

Should just stack dmg bonus as much as you can

Having crit rate from sundered does not make more crit rate more valuable

The weap would need to give cdmg

For crit rate to be more valuable

[daring dove]

CR set provides ATK% upto 25% I think. When you have a weapon with a 19.5% CR sub stat.

[uneven rose]

Will Yvonne with Artzy still need 1 slab ?

[daring dove]

I can't see damage bonus beating it since you're also getting ATK%.

[frozen tide]

You use sundered

And with gear

Get some dmg bonus

Since ember with sundered is lacking dmg bonuses

Im saying theres no reason for crit

[drifting quest]

what alternative would you be running

[frozen tide]

Since ember is very not saturated on dmg bonuses

Mi set gear bonus also gives more atk

Ember p5 sundered all give atk percent

If pog has thermite that's more atk percent

You rly need dmg percent

[daring dove]

You can give Pog sig which is more damage % argument goes both ways on that one.

[frozen tide]

Its better to stack atk percent elsewhere and run dmg percent gear

[daring dove]

I'm pretty sure at high investment CR set on Ember will clear DMG set quite easily.

If she didn't have a 19.5% CR sub-stat though I'd agree.

[frozen tide]

That hardly changes anything

Having cr doesn't make cr more valuable

Outside of being able to proc mi set a bit more consistent

[trim cipher]

If I was a new player and saw that guide I'd immediately drop the game lmao

[frozen tide]

If anything cr gives incentive to increase dmg without crit

[daring dove]

Of course it does, CR is a chance based sub-stat. The more of it the more you proc it. What kinda backward logic is that.

[frozen tide]

Since crit scales off that

[terse furnace]

A new player shouldn't be looking up endgame meta details 💀

That's their fault

[frozen tide]

Brother

[trim cipher]

lol it's pinned and was suggested to me as a new player

[drifting quest]

there's a trade off for information to be newgame digestable
unfortunately the average user in help or teambuild is not good at explaining the nuance of the guide

[trim cipher]

and I'm an experienced gacha player. Imagine the confusion someone fresh to the genre would have lol

[terse furnace]

Did you come into the chat and ask "What's good gear to put on my character" or "What's the best weapon for my character"?

[drifting quest]

so a lot of new players get giga baited by people who just say check the pins

[uneven rose]

I have no idea. Another kit?

[trim cipher]

yeah most just lead me to the pinned spreadshit

[drifting quest]

yeah but what

you'd have to have some purpose you want to fulfill that swapping from navi or wedge > artzy is doing

[terse furnace]

And to be completely fair, the spreadsheet answers both of those questions, but a new player who is at Endmin lvl 20 wouldn't have access to any of that gear to begin with lmao

[trim cipher]

imagine liking last rite so much and then checking the guide written in all caps DON'T PLAY LAST RITE IF YOU DON'T HAVE HER DUPE 3'' lmao

[terse furnace]

Okay, I'll admit, some of Iana's comments are bit...out there

[trim cipher]

I wanted to play physical team and I was this close to dropping the game altogether lol

this game desperately needs some TC

[terse furnace]

Like, as rough of a spot as Yvonne is in, I think actively dissuading people from using her is not a great look

But y'know, it's his sheet. Not like it's a professional workpaper

[dawn shard]

ye, it could be written more professionally and also have some numbers to bring points home better

[terse furnace]

I have been repeatedly stating that it'd be nice if the notations for rotations/number calcs were added to the sheets

[dawn shard]

you need px is gonna be alot more usefull to peeps if they know what the difference is

[exotic hound]

do we know how much ult energy do we get per battle skill/combo skill

[uneven rose]

I read that Artzy needs more crit, and I thought, another kit would give me more crit (I have no idea about calculations, but that was my logic when asking the question).

[terse furnace]

Honestly, this is kinda why I don't shit on Prydwen as much for Endfield - As problematic as some of their suggestions may be, they give enough barebones information to give casual - semi-casual players what they want.

Wish more sites had rotation notations tho zzzz

[drifting quest]

all 3 weapons provide crit

[trim cipher]

Prydwen is alright for Endfield

[dense plank]

6.5 per 100 sp for entire team. 10 per combo on the one that used it unless otherwise stated

[drifting quest]

prydwen is good enough if you are casual

but has a ton of issues if you care about optimizing

[terse furnace]

They've got some incorrect information in terms of optimization, but as I said, barebones information

[drifting quest]

there's a lot that is just really wrong for any degree of optimization so the reason it gets hate is that people will waste resources assuming it is up to date and factual

if someone cares enough to want advice, im not going to suggest a source with outdated or incorrect information, even if using that information can allow them to clear current content

[quasi quarry]

I hate Prydwen because of how little effort they put in comparison to how big the site is

and then you have people that don't know better taking their calcs for granted and parading them around

[elder skiff]

prydwen is just a content farm for ccs, it doesn’t help with anything for the actual playerbase

[quasi quarry]

sure the site can give a decent general idea for a casual player but how unreliable it is when you get to specifics is frustrating

[summer flicker]

pryden just bad

[daring dove]

Problem with pretty much every tier list ever is that it assumes X level of investment. But if you're putting Y level of investment into your character usually the tier list is pretty irrelevant to you.

[elder skiff]

oh and also just to spark controversy with their shitty TL asw

[trim cipher]

the main problem with iana's wording on their guide is the fact that he can nonchalantly say get 3 dupes/sig of this character otherwise is trash. Brother we are playing probably one of the most greedy gacha of all time. I have to skip like 3 banners to guarantee the next character I want thanks for pity not being carriable it's hilarious that you think a f2p/low spender can get dupes just like that

the honeymoon phase is over and we are getting fuck all for pulls, meanwhile WuWa has 50/50 but if I skip a banner I'm sure I'll get the next one lol

oh and the weapon banner is guaranteed and f2p options are mostly viable

unlike endfield

[quasi quarry]

you do realise that what that means is that instead of last rite you can use, cheaper, more f2p friendly teams right?

[trim cipher]

there is a way of creating meta specific guides

[quasi quarry]

it doesn't mean don't use last rite lol

[summer flicker]

that's the problem with every (most) gacha games

[trim cipher]

you know people mostly play characters they like

[summer flicker]

you cant get all the char bruh

[trim cipher]

not because they are super meta

[summer flicker]

if you can, they not making money, and they r prolly not gacha

[elder skiff]

gacha players when they realize luck is needed on a gacha game and gacha is predatory

absolutely insane

[granite marten]

Me when casino game wants money

[quasi quarry]

did you know the purpose of the sheet is not to account for that? if you want to play what you like then play what you like...

[summer flicker]

either they are more of a collector (azurlane) and sell skin, or they hoyo, or maybe3rd one cuz im not too deep into this genre

[drifting quest]

its hyperbole because the average player will not understand otherwise

is it problematic? arguable depending on your stance

but there are so many people who will build p0 last rite without sig, or build yvonne, or build shatter. and then they will bitch and moan when they cant clear content and cry that they were told to build x or y, or use gear a or b, or use weapon 1 and they cant just steamroll content with no effort

[quasi quarry]

you're letting a sheet impose things on you on your own

[frozen tide]

Evil evil predatory gacha akef you can't clear without spending money

[trim cipher]

gacha is predatory in general yeah but almost all games have some mechanics to alleviate the pain

[faint fiber]

[summer flicker]

you can clear with any team rightnow bruh, just need good enough investment

[summer flicker]

at least you dont get the reset and accidentally click the 50k one

[granite marten]

It’s so easy to solo monument

[trim cipher]

It IS is a problem when players cannot clear endgame content with a standard banner/First featured banner character. Considering you get gacha currency from the endgame

[next helm]

For Yvonne in the spreadsheet, is Alesh good?

[daring dove]

That just seems like fanboy nonsense to be honest. Stanza for example if better than most of the premium weapons rn. An the premium weapons have a 4% pull rate so they're arguably not even that premium. This isn't WuWa or Genshin where F2P's shouldn't even pull sigs argubly at all. Most people have 4-5 6* weapons on their account an the games only been out a month.

[summer flicker]

1 cyro stack per rot for 0 sp, thermite bot, 30~40% to give 10% attack if pot 5(iirc)

[granite marten]

You can clear endgame with 4/5 stars rn what’s the issue

[summer flicker]

the most competent out there i feel like

[faint fiber]

I genuinely felt that heartbreak there

[drifting quest]

which is why the guide is hyperbolic
it aims to redirect players to teams they can most easily use to clear content and get rewards

yvonne is notoriously bad and struggles in something like umbral monument which has pull currency rewards.
telling players its okay to use her with a bad weapon and bad team will just set them up to fail in such content

[next helm]

I think I'd rather use perlica

[summer flicker]

Perlica: tiny electrocute and i guess that's it

[next helm]

Some damage

[trim cipher]

yvonne needs some post release buffs then I guess. Like Chizuru from CZN

[heady pine]

I’ve seen too many Yvonne’s in shatter teams recently

They need a guide

[trim cipher]

if the leek girl turns out to be mid I'm gonna flip so hard

[frozen tide]

Unfortunate that team build is full of pro yvonne propaganda going out of their way to tell new folks yvonne is competitive to meta units and better than lr in relative metrics

[dawn shard]

also pass giving you a guarenteed p3 alternative to a sig

[next helm]

I expect her to be archon/void hunter lvl

[summer flicker]

yvonne is good, if you like her

[heady pine]

Eh it’s more “Yvonne + last rite so good” stuff that is more annoying

[elder skiff]

yvonne + another dps is so good cause then the team would deal damage

[frozen tide]

I find both quite irritating

[summer flicker]

what's better dps, last rite dps or yvonne + lr, ofc it would be 2 dps /s

[next helm]

I'd like if that was the case

2 dps 2 supports/applier

[dawn shard]

wait wuwa has viable f2p options? i basically dont pull unless i can afford sig in that game cos the alternatives usually suck

[next helm]

[daring dove]

Yeah, I get saying that the main character banners have some issues, but saying the weapon banners are worse than Genshin / WuWa seems delusional. As a whale in Genshin & this game, the weapon banners here are miles better.

[summer flicker]

no

[elder skiff]

might as well use crit perlica when a crit support comes out instead of yvonne

[frozen tide]

In the games format sub dps needs to do more than dmg usually

[drifting quest]

wuwa gaps from sig to f2p cope options is a lot worse than even endfields

[summer flicker]

standard < sig 20% ~25% diff most of the time

bruh

[ripe parrot]

oh shit i did it it only took like a couple of tries to do solo agony gas

that was honestly way easier than expected

[summer flicker]

who said ww have better cope than ef lmao

[trim cipher]

not for Aemeath. EoG works wonders with her

[frozen tide]

Nah bro akef is the devil 120 pity no pull currency

Need to buy arsenal tickets

[trim cipher]

for phrolova you are right

[granite marten]

Me too, main dps comps feel boring to play

[summer flicker]

let me check the calc

[drifting quest]

Exceptions will exist yes, the same way exceptions exist in Endfield (see Stanza being bis for basically every support a lot of the time [but not always])

[frozen tide]

Ignore the 250 pulls for playing the game rly good arsenal economy from doing character pulls

[drifting quest]

I remember the 1.0 wuwa sig weapon drama firsthand

[elder skiff]

stanza over sig any day of the week unless same ele

[frozen tide]

And rly good non sig weaps

[elder skiff]

[summer flicker]

~work wonders
~22% diff

[frozen tide]

Even char pots aren't as oppressive as usual gachas

[drifting quest]

[trim cipher]

%22 diff is much better than Phrolova's diff lol

[summer flicker]

because the STANDARD IS ASS

[trim cipher]

you will still be able to clear every endgame with EoG Aemeath

[summer flicker]

eog actualyl somewhat competent

[elder skiff]

you can clear endgame in endfield without even pulling anything

[trim cipher]

no it's because they introduced a new mechanic (echo skill dmg) and standard weapon roster didn't have any alternatives

[granite marten]

I really don’t know where you’re trying to go with this

[summer flicker]

because they gave her alot of atk% in her kit to make string master worse for her bruh

[trim cipher]

imho the most greedy thing kuro had ever done with wuwa was phoebe-zani situation

[summer flicker]

wdym "echo skill dmg"

[trim cipher]

and they got a lot of shit from it so they stopped releasing crippled kits like that

[trim cipher]

phrolova's niche

[summer flicker]

and cosmic give tons of atk% sine its 2nd stat

[elder skiff]

does wuwa still have that shitty powercreep where new units get to use good echo sets and the old units use shitty ass sets and got infinitely worse

[summer flicker]

phrolova kit iirc, have tons of atk% build in so its worsen the standard weapon

and stringmaster

[trim cipher]

powercreep is not from the echo sets but the kits themselves

and no, Jiyan can still clear endgame easy

[granite marten]

But it’s not jiyan clearing it anymore

[summer flicker]

120% atk increase

[elder skiff]

that’s because he can use the newer echo set

[granite marten]

It’s Iuno and Ciac

[summer flicker]

dilute the atk% lets gooo

[trim cipher]

there is also that, yeah

[summer flicker]

their base kit of newer unit get better, and some echo set give 40 crit value whcih is broken

[daring dove]

I don't really think wuwa is any threat to this game or Genshin to be honest. The game had far too many issues at launch & has an even worse introduction to the game than Enfield. The original content in Wuwa is so bad the developers actually encourage you to skip it. That tells you all you need to know.

[summer flicker]

that's because goat ciaccona exist

not the new set

smh

ok, my mind is rotting between ef gear and wuwa echo 🥀

[wanton ocean]

Genshin is the least greedy, 80% of characters use Favonius, it's like if your all supports could use R5 Stanza

[summer flicker]

also, iuno being a subdps out dmg alot(proly all) of 1.0 and some 2.0 dps

because of who, goat ciaccona the aero sentinel

[trim cipher]

I play WuWa since day 1 and Endfield and WuWa are massively different games. The only similarity is that they are both gacha

but yeah wuwa release was one of the worst moments for a gacha ever

but I'm really curious about endfield post honeymoon phase

[dawn shard]

i think endfield main draw to most people is gonna be less the combat and more the factory building anyways. and quite frankly, i dont see wuwa (or genshin) adding a factory anytime soon

[trim cipher]

like we are getting fuck all for standard pulls whereas other gacha games usually shower you with standard pulls

[summer flicker]

its 1.0, cant tell if standard pull income is bad

[drifting quest]

remember that a lot of these had meh income to begin with, or had a lot more of the free 1.0 pulls be standard not limited

[trim cipher]

nor they need to, WuWa just has to do it's own thing with combat and godtier story presentation

[drifting quest]

500+ pull 1.0 patch is nothing to scoff at

with most being limited

[summer flicker]

huh 500+ pulls, that's standard + limited right

[drifting quest]

yeah

maybe a little less

[summer flicker]

im not sure we get 300 limited pull tho

[daring dove]

I actually love the combat in this game, mostly because I really felt let down by the quick swap bs of Genshin & Wuwa an the fact you pull support characters that you basically never see.

[copper walrus]

this game is a gacha game disguised as factorio

[daring dove]

Because in Genshin the better a support is the less field time they take.

[dawn shard]

limited alone is roughly enough to hit pity twice? which is nice

[summer flicker]

im bp and ml right now, prolly get in total 240 pulls right now

[drifting quest]

im ahead of 240

prob around the 300 mark, slightly under

[summer flicker]

let me open game and check pull

[wanton ocean]

wuwa standard pulls being used just to get usable weapons (on pair with genshin craftables and free weapons) because 4 star weapons are total trash is such a scam 🤣

[trim cipher]

It's because they are plagued by the usual finish the content before the time runs out slop, so faster option is always the best one

[summer flicker]

i mean, if you count the 30 mark free 10 pull and 60 mark next banner 10 pull, can be 300 pull

[dawn shard]

thats fair, although it does come with downsides for now (istg if i cant use a supports skill one more time cos they somehow got stuck in a turret mid combat im gonna start massproducing bombs)

[trim cipher]

hey let's not disrespect Variation now xd

[elder skiff]

swapping is still here but only during attack animations (laev’s bs and stuff), it’s not as necessary as the two other ones so it feel much better

[summer flicker]

variation r5 where

[faint fiber]

I'm too drunk to sort through all the information, is there a consensus on the best most effective wuling factory and is there a link so I can just copypaste that shit

[trim cipher]

we for sure didn't because I burnt all my oroberyls and got Laev at last pity lmao

[trim cipher]

r2 is fine enough

[summer flicker]

oh ye, its 261 pull

[daring dove]

It maybe encouraged here but it's not like Genshin where if you don't quick swap you lose 95% of your damage.

[summer flicker]

i spent 40 pull (20 exclusive, and 20 ticket)

f2p prolly lower than that

[dawn shard]

got her at close to 120 aswell, and now im already at 100ish for gilberta and i still have a bunch of content left to do. idk the correct number, but id wager its at least 240

[summer flicker]

ye 300 able when 1.0 ends, wonder if the rest of 1.0 can give 40 pulls tho

[elder skiff]

if you pull on both banners you get like +40 more

[summer flicker]

i dnt count the

free 10pull

the dossier i count tho cuz its count in pity

and i dont get dossier

[elder skiff]

[summer flicker]

i mean, dossier can be good and mid because if next banner you dont want char

its kinda useless, and just a +10 into pity

[ripe parrot]

it's just a rebate if you're already pulling for guaranteed 120

[elder skiff]

i kinda like the +10 that doesn’t count towards pity because getting a 6* with it doesn’t reset any pity

[ripe parrot]

i pretend it doesn't exist unless i'm actually gonna go for guarantee

[summer flicker]

good luck hitting the 0.8% iirc

[elder skiff]

just hit it yk

[dawn shard]

and even then if you skip the next banner outside of dossier its a bit iffy cos spark resets so you only get progress to normal pity

[summer flicker]

real

[elder skiff]

the ones hitting with free ones get the 0 pity thing

i wanna have that to show off

[summer flicker]

im hitting with the 10 exclusive ticket

at lae banner

so its literally free yvonne

better than the free 10 pulls

[elder skiff]

got more yvonnes during gilb banner than gilb

smh

[plain wigeon]

With a team of Gilberta, Perlica and Avy
Who between Akekuri, Arclight and Antal works the best as 4th team member

[summer flicker]

from what i remember, antal better dps, akekuri better burst, arclight unsuable without p5

[trim cipher]

I have like 20k oroberyls but it feels kinda insulting when you finish a long ass event and it gives like 0.5 pulls lol

[frozen tide]

Akekuri is general bis there

[summer flicker]

the 25 oro in the shop

at least its not as bad as in credit shop

[drifting quest]

i know a lot of people complained about umbral monument rewards

but its basically on par with hoyo and kuro

which is what they always compare to as the good one

[elder skiff]

4.8 per month

[frozen tide]

It would be nice if umbral got harder with more rewards

[elder skiff]

it’s kind of better or around the same actually

[twilit quail]

oh it's beautiful I should have done it like this from the very beginning

what was I thinking

[drifting quest]

the colours actually do help for readability

[summer flicker]

umbral is like 14d per cycle right

[teal pawn]

ngl sometimes I feel like using the weapon selector for Da Pan, but I already got Endmin with sig so

[summer flicker]

4k8/m

[plain wigeon]

what does "better burst" mean?
more burst damage or faster energy regeneration efficiency?

[sterile patrol]

my eyes would burn trying to sheet AKEF without formatting

[teal pawn]

Heard Da Pan got smoother rots tho

[drifting quest]

be more autistic

[ripe parrot]

i did that but i also long for thermite cutter

[sterile patrol]

[ripe parrot]

da pan is just super simple to slot in because it's just sp-less vuln spending

[drifting quest]

no formatting no sense of location

[summer flicker]

its mean, you get higher dmg in avy battle skill

[teal pawn]

I got Thermite and pulled Never Rest for no reason

[summer flicker]

this what i remember from maygi tcing

[ripe parrot]

never rest might be good sometime in the future

[summer flicker]

im not main electricc team so take with a grain of salt

[teal pawn]

DPS Pog

[ripe parrot]

(cope)

[ripe parrot]

lynx slab cursed pog

[elder skiff]

when will thermite and stanza domination end

[summer flicker]

in the future, you would get p5 thermite

[granite marten]

Never support weapons rein supreme

[elder skiff]

i don’t wanna use the same 2 weps for every team

[daring dove]

Maybe another week or two an I'll have my second team ready to go starting to get its investment to a decent level.

[frozen tide]

Lvl 90 akekuri

[granite marten]

Hmmm

[summer flicker]

its sooner or later, cuz thermite can appear in those limited sig pull

[granite marten]

Lowk based icl

[frozen tide]

And ardelia

[summer flicker]

[teal pawn]

That's the day my Ake becomes god

[granite marten]

She better be m3 too

[edgy crater]

damn lvl 90 ake

[frozen tide]

It is not the wielder of thermite that holds power it is thermite

[summer flicker]

prepping to max thermite for pog

[elder skiff]

she is already one ever since she dominates teambuilding

[summer flicker]

me level alot of char for dijang, so not alot of 90

[daring dove]

Akekuri is best girl.

[summer flicker]

since current content not even need lvl 90

[frozen tide]

"dominates" looks inside one the of the very few available sp generator who happens to be able to use thermite and be used with anything

[elder skiff]

[teal pawn]

inb4 Rossi is Ake replacement

[summer flicker]

somehow all(most) sp char is sword

what a coincidence

alesh, ake, pog

[frozen tide]

Vaunguard be like

[elder skiff]

i want rossi to be wulf replacement so i can stop using a male character thoughhh

[teal pawn]

Coping so hard Rossi is phys and replaces Endmin/Da Pan

[frozen tide]

I can't imagine rossi being crush

[summer flicker]

wait vanguard always sword right

hmm

[teal pawn]

I mean it may work

[elder skiff]

what’s the possibility of rossi doing the aether dmg thing

[frozen tide]

Not necessarily ig but so far i believe so

[summer flicker]

why every char vanguard is sword

bruh

[twilit quail]

oh for fuck's sake

[summer flicker]

thermite cutter days r still prolly long

[daring dove]

I hyper focus on key characters & leave the others to collect dust until I'm ready to use them.

[granite marten]

Close to 0, they would never give a side character a whole new mechanic

[twilit quail]

pasting from wps to google sheets doesnt maintain the formulas

only the values

kms

[frozen tide]

What is wps

[twilit quail]

chinese office apps

[summer flicker]

im want to have afk exp generator in dijang

[frozen tide]

Can you export to excel first

Then to sheets

[frozen tide]

Might just work

[twilit quail]

I dont have excel license on this computer

and I cant be fucked

to set the crack up rn

[frozen tide]

😭

[twilit quail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/920152531995353128/1136190869825925130/speed-2.gif

[frozen tide]

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