#theorycrafting

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proud vector
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idk I don't have any experience with low fps gaming

scenic radish
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also it gives my stock bills an actual use

burnt hull
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probably

proud vector
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but if it affects inputs then uhhh oof

gritty olive
burnt hull
proud vector
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in theory they shouldn't be

restive crescent
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in most games they do

burnt hull
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i know right

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uhh

summer flower
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is there hand cannon that has art burst oriented passive?

proud vector
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but ive seen fps be tied to tick updates

burnt hull
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lowk maybe adding a speedrun timer would be good

quasi quarry
chilly bolt
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Does anyone have numbers for LR sig, as in how much is p5 vs p0

dire nymph
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ember's so good

gritty olive
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but these people only like to see 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. and moce on

chilly bolt
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If you come to discord asking for help, ofc you get metaslave answer True

rare zodiac
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I just read it a bit and already feel my IQ going down

gritty olive
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Think the problem is the presentation has some semblance of hostility of hopefully buolders of the unit

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Oh iana hello

twilit quail
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there's no point in discussing this these people will exist everywhere

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just let them be

quasi quarry
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ask in said discord for elaborate answers and solve your questions and gap in knowledge ❌
make a reddit post calling out people who put effort into making useful resources for others because you don't put in the effort to understand them ✅

rare zodiac
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Yeah just ignore them

gritty olive
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Im not attacking you <3

rare zodiac
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They can play inside their well

twilit quail
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it's not worth anyone's time

gritty olive
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And were being elitists

twilit quail
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the frog at the bottom of the well knows not the breadth of the greater world

gritty olive
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Would you want unsure answers or from some person with some “ego” but is willing tomcalc

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Prywden as well LOL
YOURE GOING TO BE SWAYED BY NUMBERS CUZ NUKBERS

twilit quail
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It's the same problem as always Ive talked about it like so many times before

rare zodiac
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Truth is hurt and people is not ready for itPerliWheeze

twilit quail
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some people who claim to be discussing gameplay dont want to do that at all

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there's no conversation to be had

solar pier
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you guys think Yvonne is going to be good once her signature comes?

gritty olive
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@rare zodiac

rare zodiac
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Yeah?

gritty olive
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Can you scout yvonne rotations

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Ill try to setup a new sheet after a brief break due to exams co_gi_hot

rare zodiac
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Sure, teammate?

gritty olive
restive crescent
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i like the perlica xaihi gil variant

twilit quail
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just use the one I have in my doc

gritty olive
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Max 3 again, were gonna do standard stuff

twilit quail
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0 energy startup

gritty olive
twilit quail
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stagger lined up for ult

gritty olive
gritty olive
twilit quail
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you can sample this

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cause maybe I made notational mistake or something

gritty olive
drifting quest
twilit quail
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or it is hard to read

summer flower
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okay, so i dunno what else to place in team i'm not sure

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but its flurorite, antal, perlica

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im thinking xaihi with stanza?

twilit quail
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anyway it was bound to happen, the post

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not surprising at all and not worth talking about

drifting quest
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the post is so dumb lmao

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im glad people were calling it out in the comments

twilit quail
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but as always instead of just ever speaking to me about anything they will just complain elsewhere

gritty olive
twilit quail
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exact asme as last time

gritty olive
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co_gi_hot this is believable

dire nymph
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xd

twilit quail
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this is not that far off I think

gritty olive
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I GOT TIMED OUT TEMPORARILY

drifting quest
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the guy who made the post has like

gritty olive
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6HRS

twilit quail
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at p5 if you do a lot of ebs

drifting quest
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2 messages as well

gritty olive
drifting quest
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didnt even make an effort to learn

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straight to hate when they got ignored once

twilit quail
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I could see how you could get that number

dire nymph
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does anyone have the dmg doc again

drifting quest
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prydwen is solo calcs

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for weapons

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no

twilit quail
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oh

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hm

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but how do they

gritty olive
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Checking documents -> dont know? Ask, not try to like you know

twilit quail
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never mind

drifting quest
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its just napkin math'd ideal situations

gritty olive
drifting quest
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they give 100% uptimes and stuff

gritty olive
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Thats pretty accurate to what im getting

drifting quest
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the 'team' calcs are just

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add every buff of 1 team

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100% uptime again

twilit quail
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?

gritty olive
drifting quest
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maybe it's changed

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but that's how they used to do it

gritty olive
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Yeah fuck prywden 🥀

twilit quail
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man creates least rigorous mathematic process ever

drifting quest
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its so they can push it out asap

gritty olive
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Never gonna use it to determine which is which

summer flower
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ehh

drifting quest
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it was an issue with like

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hsr prydwen

gritty olive
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Hsr

twilit quail
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well ok we usually have a rule with these things

gritty olive
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<\\3

twilit quail
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if it comes out within like a week, as in a guide

summer flower
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can you help me ? or there is just not enough operators?

twilit quail
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dont trust it that much

summer flower
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i need someone for nature burst team

restive crescent
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just dont trust guides and redo all the calcs urself

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ggs

drifting quest
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ive been in the prydwen discord too so idk who it is doing their calcs since i dont see anyone ever there

twilit quail
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there is also a reason I dont put any calc in the doc

quasi quarry
# gritty olive Yeah fuck prywden 🥀

people don't understand that prydwen is monetarily incentivised to get clicks on their wesbite, they do not care about the integrity of their work at all 😭

gritty olive
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Im busy playing gavhas plural

twilit quail
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like any spreadsheet or anything

drifting quest
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it used to be guoba but it's not anymore afaik

twilit quail
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because 1) people somehow dont know how to math anything ever

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and 2) I will just get a million stupid questions

shut cargo
drifting quest
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they used to credit who did what section

gritty olive
restive crescent
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ive never interacted with anyone in prydwen but regardless of bad actors idk if idmake these assumptions

gritty olive
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Some good soul here checked energy calcs and my laev ones hae some energy missing

drifting quest
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this is based on how they did it for other games yes

gritty olive
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And i let them edit perms ami

twilit quail
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dude

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checking someone else's spreadsheet is literal torture

gritty olive
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So youre seeing needle in a haystack observers on actual accuracy

restive crescent
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thats why u chekc their spreadsheet when they r here live

shut cargo
gritty olive
drifting quest
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checking my own spreadsheets sucks i hate doing it for others

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i spreadsheet like shit though

gritty olive
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That means theyre very privy about it, which is rare

restive crescent
gritty olive
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so its very very very similar

restive crescent
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my sheets look like some diabolical shit

twilit quail
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I mean so much of what makes people think something is trustworthy

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is how nice it looks

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if I paid someone to reformat my stuff

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and doll it up

rare zodiac
twilit quail
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things would 100% be very different

drifting quest
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lock in

shut cargo
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Btw has anyone done the math of 3 hot work 1 tide Vs 3 hot work 1 slab on lae?

gritty olive
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Very similar since i really just ripped it off

twilit quail
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maybe I just should just what I did before

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and just put stupid memes everywhere

restive crescent
drifting quest
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slab worse outside of the 1 in a 100 situation or whale stuff but whale stuff also has like 2 slab

gritty olive
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Or 2+ enemies ig where you offset energy gain from other sources

restive crescent
shut cargo
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Aight thanks y'all the goat

dire nymph
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i use camaraderia's

drifting quest
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kee

gritty olive
dire nymph
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oke

rare zodiac
drifting quest
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sheeting kinda dead now for hsr

gritty olive
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Camaraderia copied from kee for format

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Me as well

drifting quest
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with homdg gone

dire nymph
gritty olive
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See how similar my sheets are from his

dire nymph
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ya

gritty olive
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Homework copy

dire nymph
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can i copy urs pleadmem

gritty olive
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Some cells still has effect resistance

rare zodiac
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With extra 30 tab PerliWheeze

drifting quest
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why cant my laevatein apply corrosion

restive crescent
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am i high or do those numbers look a bit lower than id expect

drifting quest
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i dont have any ehr

dire nymph
rare zodiac
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When i was fixing the rot for ultspam i feel dizzy just navigating all that tab

gritty olive
restive crescent
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total dps

grave flame
# twilit quail and 2) I will just get a million stupid questions

So you end up with a guide where people don’t know whether it’s good or bad, or even if it’s based on any calculations that make sense. That raises the question of who the guide is actually for. If it’s for random players looking for answers, then it doesn’t make sense to complain about people who ‘can’t do math’ or to say you don’t want to answer ‘stupid questions.’ You also add a rotation from a Chinese site, doesn’t that just lead to even more questions? And doesn’t not including calculations create even more 'stupid questions'?

restive crescent
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that translates to like 1.5m dpr right

gritty olive
dire nymph
proud vector
gritty olive
twilit quail
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I mean stupid questions about the calcs

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and the "chinese site" is a tool

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where the user

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places each individual thing

drifting quest
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m3 pog skill combo
m3 lifeng skill
m3 chen ult
no endmin masteries till i see what tangtang is

should be chill atp

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not forgetting anything

restive crescent
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that tool is goated

twilit quail
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m3 pog

proud vector
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^its not autogen but it keeps track of ultimate charge and SP

Nice site

drifting quest
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im debating just

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m1 and bedge

twilit quail
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why would you m3

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you gain like 0.2% dmg maybe

gritty olive
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.leak

drifting quest
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isnt there sp breakpoints

gritty olive
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Lets just tc how id do is6d18 ed235 in the meantime

drifting quest
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that might just be ult

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which i didnt list

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clueful

gritty olive
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Since 245 is far easier than 235

twilit quail
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there is no further sp gain beyond m1

proud vector
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M1 should hit the breakpoint for pog right

twilit quail
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it's just dmg

drifting quest
ocean hawk
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all of it ?

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or only combo

proud vector
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PerliStareYou eh it’s not like crowns are as limited as we thought

quasi quarry
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his combo skill sp recovery doesn't even increase with masteries no?

gritty olive
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Chen chen chen alter did the trick

drifting quest
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m1 skill ult then

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chill

twilit quail
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yeah combo gets nothing

dire nymph
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😭

gritty olive
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I DIDNT EVEN CALC GIBBY

twilit quail
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no reason to take bs or ult beyond m1

dire nymph
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i need a break from uni

proud vector
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Does combo get cd reduction

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Lemme double check

gritty olive
drifting quest
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yeah but it doesnt matter

proud vector
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Ah yep

grave flame
# twilit quail and the "chinese site" is a tool

Yeah, I know, I’ve used it, but it’s still a pretty confusing thing to add. I’m sure people ask ‘stupid’ questions about it, and I don’t really see how that’s any different from ‘stupid’ questions about calcs

gritty olive
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When does it matter

ocean hawk
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so im wasting 1 crown PerliFumo

drifting quest
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laev can use the 1s cd well

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avywenna

gritty olive
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What rot

quasi quarry
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is there any op whose comboskill cd -1s reduction at m3 makes any significant difference?

drifting quest
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depends on team

tight haven
gritty olive
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Enion

drifting quest
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you have like p5 wulf ardelia stuff where you can 2 combo in the first rot with precharged wulf ult

gritty olive
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Are you interested on potential dps

proud vector
gritty olive
gritty olive
quasi quarry
drifting quest
# gritty olive

do we think yvonne is strong enough to break her own seal at d15

quasi quarry
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definitely not worth the m3 though

restive crescent
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oh this is not full artifice

grave flame
drifting quest
summer flower
twilit quail
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it's just that questions of a mathematical nature are always going to be more effort to answer. any questions Ive received about the timelines so far are just like mistakes I made with making it english or whatever and those are FAR easier to deal with and rectify

proud vector
ocean hawk
summer flower
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can someone check this ? i dont understand chinese

drifting quest
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there are people asking stuff that is explained in big bright coloured capital letters

summer flower
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i dont wanna to suffer

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flurorite nature infliction spam

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without any reactions

ocean hawk
proud vector
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PerliStareYou it’s in our nature to ask stupid questions due to search engines

grave flame
tight haven
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her combo also does respectable damage no matter how you build her so

proud vector
rare zodiac
grave flame
proud vector
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Like none of these guides go over a TON of very obscure information that most players don’t know

quasi quarry
summer flower
quasi quarry
proud vector
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But you don’t put that in because it’s assumed information I guess?

summer flower
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or do you want to be looking at single rotation

tight haven
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i think iana's doc could be made better but im gonna be so fucking real theres just no better alternatives ive seen

rich linden
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Chat i m3ed my laeva skill and ult

rare zodiac
restive crescent
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how many conversations r happening at once

proud vector
rich linden
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Am I cooked

restive crescent
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chill

tight haven
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everyone else is opaque on their process in ways more annoying to me personally largely because their contributors are less accessible to me

drifting quest
quasi quarry
tight haven
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like prydwen's gear recs for weeks were based on cbt2 data

summer flower
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focus is 60 sec

twilit quail
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most people have an innately poor understanding of mathematics

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if someone asks me a question

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about x or y calculation

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if they have not already fully grasped damage calculation in this game

restive crescent
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ts is just straight arithmetic

rare zodiac
twilit quail
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and have a degree of understanding as to what effects take place in what order when something is done

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it becomes extremely tedious

tight haven
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contextualizing the maths could be done to make it more intuitive but like thats past the threshold for diminishing returns on effort

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ime

grave flame
proud vector
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PerliDerp ok on one hand yes opaque calcs seem like a downside

On the other hand they’ve tested extremely niche and difficult to predict interactions

twilit quail
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Even if I was the most skilled spreadsheeter in the world and could make everything easily interpretable immediately(an impossible task)

gritty briar
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"i don't feel like explaining" is always a possible answer

twilit quail
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explaining the entire calculation process would still be a daunting task in and of itself

twilit quail
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It would be possible for me to make another resource for that and

restive crescent
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i mean

twilit quail
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in a sense try to induce people into the correct line

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but I am not paid

restive crescent
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do sheets, and then its the guidemaker's job to work with u and explain it

twilit quail
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I receive no compensation for this

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I have no platform to speak of

drifting quest
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why are we comparing someone who makes money off it and can dedicate more time

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to someone doing it for free in their spare time

twilit quail
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I'm just some fucking guy

proud vector
quasi quarry
summer flower
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where i can see SP that's expected to be there?

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on end axis?

quasi quarry
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they make money off of doing it of course they would make it as clear as possible to their audience

tight haven
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imho this is just a "if you dont like it then make the alternative" situation

rare zodiac
tight haven
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its rude to say obviously but its also literally true

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nobody does it better and the bar is low

rich linden
summer flower
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its broken

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i should have drop earlier if its sp

gritty olive
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Qualitt over quantity

tight haven
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like dude its either ianas guide, prydwen or learning chinese the bar is in hell

twilit quail
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I am employed and also studying the return is simply not worth the effort

gritty olive
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Especially when unpaid

rare zodiac
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Like Xaihi/LR

summer flower
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ohhh

rare zodiac
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That you can take advantage of the sp recovery outside combat

summer flower
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so i ahve to move it okay

boreal coral
summer flower
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i thought timer is when you enter

twilit quail
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ok well the thing is

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if I did have any sort of platform at ALL

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anywhere

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I would not be in this situation now

gritty olive
twilit quail
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it's BECAUSE that I have no platform that these things happened

restive crescent
twilit quail
gritty olive
twilit quail
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and so they dont deserve my respect

drifting quest
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time to make iana sheet baby mode

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no words only pretty pictures

gritty olive
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I told someone to replace the datasheers

twilit quail
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I need more brainrot memes

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to put in

restive crescent
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lmao

twilit quail
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and then the doc will be better liked

dire nymph
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low cortisol rotation

rare zodiac
gritty olive
next helm
tight haven
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yvonne frame mogged by ses'qa brand manager

restive crescent
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for artificing, each artifice level is a 10% jump right, do we know if the game tracks decimals (i.e. does flooring at the stat line level or after computations)

unreal light
twilit quail
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what is this bro

restive crescent
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ive been assuming flooring at the stat line level

dire nymph
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last rite is now looking for the ses'qa brand manager that framemogged yvonne to cortisolspike them

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whatever

twilit quail
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at least have it be related to the game

wheat matrix
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so for yvonne i got to chose between navigator or wedge? i know they are close but what about detonation unit from the selector? is that and navigator the better pick up

twilit quail
proud vector
twilit quail
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but det unit and nav arent in the same boxes

gritty olive
unreal light
tight haven
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i think they mean wedge vs det

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theyre in the same box iirc

restive crescent
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gg time to add 2 to int

gritty olive
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So like theyre using 6.222222 but only showing 6.22

unreal light
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You come, ask for brainrots, but never use them sadge

grave flame
twilit quail
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uhh in that case

tight haven
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i would get det and then just p5 nav next patch if youre hell-bent on playing yvonne

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if you just wanna use yvonne just settle with p2/3 nav or something i think

summer flower
tight haven
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eat the fuckin

summer flower
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and i dunno who third to put in

sour kestrel
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How would this Sword work exactly with Endmin and Chen? (Endmin holding the Sword)

tight haven
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10% less dpsp

twilit quail
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no I mean it has to at least be related to the game if I literally just put random shit in it would be terrible

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in the case of wedge vs det uhhh

twilit quail
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wedge beats sig at max so if you have faith you can get a million copies of it I guess

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but it's a poor investment

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all things considered

unreal light
tight haven
twilit quail
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if I put that in it would instantly be no longer pinned

dire nymph
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what the fuck

teal pawn
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Oh wait, Endmin can work with it I guess

sour kestrel
teal pawn
summer flower
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okay, so i have perlica for electrification

summer flower
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anatal for more nature stacks

twilit quail
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and also uhhh

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no

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just in general

summer flower
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but who to put in last ?

grave flame
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It’s not hard to add a link to the calculations in the guide, not a 2nd job or smth, and you don’t have to answer long questions if you don’t want to. That alone would add at least some level of trust to it

summer flower
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who to support flurorite DPS art burst

rare zodiac
unreal light
proud vector
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Honestly fck it why NOT have the calcs in a second link

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And just have the first page be “I will NOT answer any questions but feel free to double check”

restive crescent
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gg cursed white unformatted sheet

proud vector
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And just block people who ask about it lmao

sour kestrel
tight haven
proud vector
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Yes it will be a white cancer looking sheet but it will get the where calcs people off your back

restive crescent
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ngl id look at them

sour kestrel
summer flower
copper walrus
summer flower
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Like i Best i can get single nature ilfiction out of her

tight haven
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never rest gives -
endmin 14% phys dmg
chen 7% phys dmg

endmin p2 gives -
endmin 30% atk
chen 15% atk

rare zodiac
unreal light
twilit quail
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so to be clear a big part of it is that a considerable portion(less than 40% but still a lot) of what I base my stuff on is not done by myself and I dont have direct access to the documents currently

drifting quest
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i hope this thing that took me genuinely 10 minutes to figure out helps you without needing to read any words

twilit quail
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and then another portion is stuck in shared online documents(that are in chinese)

proud vector
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Ah importing from other sheet?

twilit quail
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and then the rest is my offline spreadsheet

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which is also in chinese

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because I am chinese

twilit quail
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because the compatibility is exceptionally poor

twilit quail
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from chinese platform to gsheet or whatever

sour kestrel
proud vector
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PerliStareYou ahh for the base values and stuff

twilit quail
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no for like everything

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rotations and all

tight haven
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wait why did you think atk was the same as phys d...

twilit quail
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ok so

tight haven
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never mind thats rude to ask

gritty olive
twilit quail
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hang on give me a sec

proud vector
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PerliDerp you don’t have to elaborate if don’t want to I get the gist

dire nymph
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we dont have anything that reduces ult cd do we

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or

proud vector
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Is there a character that can ult more often than the hard CD??

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Oh stew

summer flower
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is art burst considered consuming art infliction when at max?

rare zodiac
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Not for now

proud vector
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Of course

sour kestrel
dry mason
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Drop of the year

dire nymph
twilit quail
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If we want to be super rigorous, the spreadsheeting becomes EXTREMELY cumbersome

dry mason
proud vector
twilit quail
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to the point where it becomes very difficult to parse at all if you are not the author

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in combination with everything

gritty olive
twilit quail
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it just becomes an unbelievable pain

rare zodiac
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Can get full energy in 3s but can’t deal with 10s cd PerliWheeze

twilit quail
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could I do it? yeah probably

restive crescent
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honestly

twilit quail
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are there ways I could alleviate the situation without too much trouble(because no one is going to check the calculations anyway)? probably yeah as well

gritty olive
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You just need to do it like this

grave flame
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My point is that it’s not hard to add a link to the calculations in the guide, it’s not a second job or anything, and you don’t have to answer long questions if you don’t want to. There’s also a community here, so people who know the details can help answer instead. That alone would add at least some level of trust to it

gritty olive
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Be professional. MonaSigh

summer flower
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not good readability

restive crescent
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why do we not have a tcl & public facing side outside of the channel

twilit quail
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but it just doesnt appear to be a productive use of time fr me so far

proud vector
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PerliDerp this is like asking a coder to show their back end

dire nymph
sour kestrel
proud vector
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It is pain and suffering to parse through someone else’s back end stuff even if you know what it is meant to do LOL

twilit quail
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not hard to add a link, maybe

proud vector
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Though well, maybe it’s not the worst to have a link yeah

twilit quail
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make the contents of the link comprehensible in english

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quite hard, actually

gritty olive
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your time will come

proud vector
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That’s not your job tbh

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But a link can be done easily enough

gritty briar
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I mean i've seen plenty of sheets that just have some unreadable data section that you just aren't meant to read or edit

twilit quail
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I mean yeah it's not like anyone is checking them

drifting quest
twilit quail
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LMAO

gritty olive
drifting quest
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FUNNY MAN ROLL 30

copper walrus
gritty olive
copper walrus
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all in rien banner now

gritty olive
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what if arknights 2nd collab

copper walrus
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i put all of mine in rien banner

dire nymph
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i forgot to get the arknights welfare since i was busy with uni

proud vector
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We theorycrafting limbus now?!

dire nymph
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i got the kaltsit ego tho

proud vector
copper walrus
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ngl how did limbus get in here

twilit quail
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I'll think about it but the core of it is that I just dont care enough and that comes before everything else

gritty olive
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Theyre theorycrafting if i should pull

twilit quail
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like realistically that's why

gritty olive
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The answe is no

dire nymph
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pull it

proud vector
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This is the greatest poise ID to see play

dire nymph
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u get everything next wapipi in 20

proud vector
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And we just got Sinclair lol

copper walrus
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because you will get him in 10

gritty olive
proud vector
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To be honest the link to the calcs may help other people make their own calcs

gritty olive
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Like less clutter
For me peeps comsider guides to be a “look, check, done” thing

restive crescent
#

ugh sheet formatting

gritty olive
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One way communication

restive crescent
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brings me memories from OSU

proud vector
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For the people that want to start sheeting but don’t know where to start it’s maybe a plus?

honest mason
#

outside of attack cancels
who has the fastest final strike sequence

drifting quest
#

more low effort

gritty olive
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Tomorrow

twilit quail
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I mean if I ever resolved on making it I would probably just go all the way because I dont like leaving things half done even if I dont really like doing it that much

gritty olive
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.tomorrow

twilit quail
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like let me show you some of the standard formatting we use

gritty olive
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@rare zodiac what team

gritty briar
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I think it's pretty normal to just have a page or section that isn't formatted or anything just so that the math is sourced from somewhere

twilit quail
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multipliers at the top

proud vector
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Oh hey Chinese

gritty briar
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Like a lot of calculator sheets just have some data page

proud vector
rare zodiac
drifting quest
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hey they sheet like i do

twilit quail
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expected damage

proud vector
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Oh is that a timeline

gritty olive
twilit quail
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multiplicative brackets

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more brackets

restive crescent
#

til qi wang is mean (expectation)

proud vector
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Honestly that’s not as impossible to understand as you’d think

restive crescent
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mum im learning chinese in #tc

twilit quail
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crit & other fundamentals

proud vector
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Just send the link in its unfiltered Chinese form lol

twilit quail
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attributes

gritty olive
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@twilit quail whats the main difference of chinese TC and other region TC in terms of “thought”

rare zodiac
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Asian

proud vector
twilit quail
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uhh

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there isnt any fundamental difference

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it's not unemployed

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more sleep deprived

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stem students

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is all

proud vector
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Same thing

gritty olive
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Like gb seems more fragmented, chinese people are very near each ofher and are more clumped, so theres more room for “competition”

proud vector
gritty briar
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Yeah idk i think you can just leave those in the sheet tbh

twilit quail
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again I'll think about it

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but it comes down entirely to if I care enough

drifting quest
#

stem pipeline

twilit quail
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but yeah there will generally be much more scrutiny of any work that is done

proud vector
#

PerliDerp what even is the EN TC scene

gritty olive
twilit quail
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the thing is that dogshit guides are still everywhere on bili currently too

drifting quest
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iwtl

copper walrus
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what does tc stand for

gritty olive
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Theres some cc raizer mentioned to me that did ww calcs and are doing genshin as well

gritty briar
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like there's always pages that are just there as a "source" that no one cares about that are left in sheets anyways.
Like this english uma pull calculator sheet just has a fucking half korean section and i doubt anyone questions it

drifting quest
gritty olive
proud vector
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PerliStareYou now I like guoba and I don’t know lwtl but yeah ouch

copper walrus
unreal light
#

Huh does iwtl tc’s?

I thought iwtl just whales

drifting quest
gritty olive
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I like guoba cuz GuobaHYPETWERK

twilit quail
#

if I do decide to do it it will be like a very gradual thing because as I said before

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some of what I use is not my own calculations

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some of them are straight up blown up

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because the noline documents dont exist anymore

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some of them are stuck in qq documents

proud vector
#

PerliStare I remember gouba starting out in HSR haha

He was poking his head into a lot of the TC stuff to make sure things were accurate, so I do have some trust in him

twilit quail
#

and so if I choose to do it

gritty olive
#

If i upload my sheets to a yt video would people watch rhat vid

twilit quail
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It will be a gradual thing that will be rolled out more over time as new things release, most likely

drifting quest
#

guoba is semi active here

gritty olive
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Even if her banner is already 2 weeks gome

proud vector
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Yep I see them around every now and again

dire nymph
#

time for yvonne

proud vector
#

Is good

restive crescent
#

slideshow white spreadsheet 2min video hold my beer

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no subtitles no sound

gritty olive
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Eventual lootbar sponsor

dire nymph
#

make it ldshop

gritty olive
restive crescent
#

2min tts ldshop adread

proud vector
restive crescent
#

only audio in the entire video

gritty olive
#

I remember seeing a lootbar sponsor comment on sciels yt video and the comment is now deleted

drifting quest
#

kyo sponsor too

dire nymph
#

.

drifting quest
gritty olive
#

Yeah you guys MisakaCatEyes

twilit quail
#

again it's reasonable to want these things even just from a user perspective but I frankly dont care enough currently, genuinely even getting some of it to look normal in gsheets is going to be a pain(I've tried before)

dire nymph
gritty olive
#

Well try to churn out the sheets asap

unreal light
gritty olive
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<3

proud vector
drifting quest
#

prydwen was very accurate for r1999?

dire nymph
#

i love prydwen for agendahsr

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thats all

drifting quest
gritty olive
#

Vs ianas unreliable sheets

restive crescent
#

ngl i didnt read

gritty olive
ocean hawk
dire nymph
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my discords tweaking i dont have the jiaoqiu gif

gritty briar
unreal light
proud vector
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PerliDerp I won’t accept Prydwen until they finish their WIP general damage formula guide page

twilit quail
#

ok but like

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how funny would it be

proud vector
#

That’s such core information that it shoulda been done asap for any TC

twilit quail
#

if I just put random shit in the calcs section

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and see how long it would take

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for people to ever actually look at it

gritty olive
twilit quail
#

and try to figure out what it was

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if I just labelled it

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CHINESE CALCULATIONS VIEW AT YOUR OWN RISK

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looking at the maths will make you a member of the communist party of china

unreal light
twilit quail
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(based?)

dire nymph
gritty olive
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.5k updoots

dire nymph
#

i keep seeing him in bilibili

ocean hawk
dire nymph
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and that one idol

gritty briar
#

look i think most people would just assume that the math is beyond their comprehension and just not bother even looking

gritty olive
#

uhoh lets remove the sheets from pinned now

gritty briar
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especially if it was half chinese

unreal light
copper walrus
#

google translate solos

drifting quest
gritty briar
#

"oh he showed his work, cool"

dire nymph
#

all that over ember

twilit quail
#

but yeah I might do it at some point

proud vector
#

The point is that people are going like “where’s the calcs m8”

twilit quail
#

if it happens yvonne will probably be up first because I did those numbers recently

gritty olive
#

iana arc

twilit quail
#

which is pretty funny honestly

unreal light
dire nymph
#

btw are the base stats just from the wiki @gritty olive

gritty olive
dire nymph
#

damn

gritty briar
#

look whenever I ask "source", i appreciate it even if they just lazily link to me something and say "here but you won't understand it and i can't explain it"

dire nymph
#

ok im just doing phys ill just check my own stuff

gritty olive
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since i assumed level 99. then level 90

then +0 artifice, then +3

proud vector
#

PerliStareYou like do we still not have a basic attack comparison sheet?

I know one exists but the guy who made it didn’t know about basic attack finishers giving different amounts of SP

Nor any dash cancels

gritty olive
#

co_gi_hot just uh doubke check

dire nymph
#

oke

gritty olive
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youre basing my char sheet right?@dire nymph

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the more accurate one is on the laev sheet

dire nymph
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uh laev since

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yeah

gritty olive
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yeahyeah

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ThumbsUp the gear sheet is prob incorrect for the extra stats

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since i havent updated it

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i only told the person that woukd change it to only change the main and sib attribute values.idk if they added it for all exyra buffs

dire nymph
#

im gonna reference an old doc i worked on for the colors

gritty olive
#

so i still need to doubld chdck

twilit quail
#

oh I suppose I could like

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make a template

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for sheeting damage

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that isnt completely ill

proud vector
#

Oh god yes please

twilit quail
#

and just port that to english

dire nymph
#

nvm bro

restive crescent
#

me when i just type random shit up without vlookups or js cus im always doing temp calcs

dire nymph
#

i hate this country's internet

gritty olive
unreal light
drifting quest
restive crescent
#

we dont need as much astheyd need

proud vector
#

PerliDerp Prydwen’s quality is wildly unstable at launch because they seek to get stuff out asap even as the meta mega evolves in first week

west moon
#

So real

dire nymph
#

since i watched pokke play it

proud vector
#

Though I will say Prydwen for AK:EN isn’t shaping up badly

rare zodiac
west moon
#

devs please mail me 100 chartered banner pulls

unreal light
restive crescent
#

actually ig we'd prolly wanna montecarlo shit like stacking buffs based on crit on specifically yvonne's case

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so itd end up being pretty similar

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but i dont imagine its too difficult to build only a backend if we piggyback of that

unreal light
drifting quest
#

the sheet ptsd i got reading monte carlo

west moon
gritty olive
west moon
#

well, prydwen is good for starters

grave flame
proud vector
#

PerliStare eh? In the team teir list they have it interchangeable no?

unreal light
drifting quest
#

prydwen is good if you dont care about minmaxxing but somehow do care about optimizing but you also dont want to read

unreal light
#

And then prydwen believers come here

restive crescent
#

maygi seems to be doing more than that rn since she wants real time character adjustments

unreal light
#

And say stuff like don’t breach on pog

west moon
proud vector
west moon
#

I didn't cared for like first 10 hours, but I wanted playable team

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Then I started to read

elder skiff
#

prydwen sounds useful for new players but once you spend enough time on the game, you know they were just spouting bullshit

dire nymph
#

@gritty olive is the base sheet (not laev) the one based on lvl 99

proud vector
#

Ok my knowledge of electro is weak compared to other teams

rare zodiac
#

it's ok for newbie to see generally how shit work to get used to

proud vector
#

Is arlight that horrible? Eating an electrification at what p1?p3? Refunds like 70 sp no?

#

Is the extra ult energy not significant to Avy?

gritty olive
west moon
gritty olive
#

but the main attributes are missing 40 stats

west moon
#

That's what arclight does in the team

dire nymph
#

oh wtf im missing something then from my base stats

west moon
#

And you need to build her correctly

gritty olive
west moon
#

max buff is like 50% damage for 10 seconds or so

twilit quail
#

arclight is really bad

unreal light
west moon
#

she should be sub-dps

unreal light
twilit quail
#

basically to do anything with the character you have to cannibalise what perlica is doing

west moon
#

but she isn't dealing damage

twilit quail
#

and do things like combo bs combo for net 40 sp loss

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and then also fuck up your ult gain with sp refund

unreal light
proud vector
#

Wait she refunds?

rare zodiac
#

sp refund is a scam

proud vector
#

I thought she was a vanguard and straight recovers

#

One sec

rare zodiac
#

it's mess up rot

gritty olive
#

Youtuber monika

unreal light
modest thorn
#

You can tell they went all out

gritty olive
#

Im doing this on mobile so later id prob make this better

proud vector
#

Wait what where does arclight refund SP? I can only find sp recovery

gritty olive
#

Also its midnight here so yeah smell yall kater

proud vector
#

Am I blind

gritty olive
#

I still haventread for my exams yet so wish me luck

modest thorn
#

Smell u later alligator

dire nymph
#

gnge

modest thorn
#

Same lol gl

gritty olive
#

<3333

dire nymph
#

ill try working on this sheet til 1 am then study for my midterms

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fuckk

gritty olive
#

why the fuck do i type like a girl 🥀

drifting quest
west moon
#

Devs, add 6-star avywenna and I'll start whaling

modest thorn
#

I don’t have the game open but I’m guessing on her talent and possibly further buffed in her dupes 👍

gritty olive
#

Blue archive + arknights bgm ami

proud vector
#

PerliWaaaaa no seriously where is the sp refund on arclight I’m going insane

drifting quest
#

arknights wise

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i dont know blue archive

gritty olive
restive crescent
#

fuck it if i finish my paper before sunday mayb ill look into a non determistic simulator

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gonna be low prio tho cus we dont have particle rng

unreal light
#

Unwelcome school

gritty olive
unreal light
#

If only we had papers on the Endfield

gritty olive
#

Or this

rare zodiac
modest thorn
#

I remember we had to do a math paper and I made mine on Pokémon go

unreal light
#

Shit gotta prepare to my 10 rhodagns per minute exam

proud vector
#

PerliWaaaaa ya’ll can’t just drop the fact arclight is bad because refund SP but then not tell me how aaaaaaa

drifting quest
#

rhodagns / second dps measurement is so funny

gritty olive
restive crescent
#

yall dont wanna see my osu paper from highschool in math.............

#

osu.

west moon
gritty olive
#

favorite op in arknights is thorns

gritty olive
unreal light
gritty olive
west moon
#

🟦 🟦 🟦 🟦 🟦
⬛⬛ 🟨⬛⬛

gritty olive
#

once they did zzz they KNOW the ramifications of doing blue archice content still when they have a hold of some ZZZ audience

rare zodiac
unreal light
#

How much hp is one rhodagn?

lost void
#

Hello can I ask if somebody in here already invested heavily on Bonekrusha on Endmin and how does it compare to other set?

unreal light
drifting quest
#

good enough

modest thorn
gritty olive
#

oh fuck yall ill just hastily sketch laevatain and call it a thumbnail

modest thorn
#

It’s on her combo and battle skill

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And her dupes

drifting quest
#

⬛ ⬛ ⬛ ⬛ 🟩
⬛ 🟩 ⬛ ⬛ 🟩
🟨 🟩 ⬛ 🟨 🟩
🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩 🟩

lost void
#

armor set will greatly change how you play skill/combo right?

dire nymph
#

whys ur wordle os big

drifting quest
#

i did it manually for the bit

drifting quest
drifting quest
dire nymph
#

too big

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nvm

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i got embarrassed it took me 5 or 6

drifting quest
#

remining me to do akdle

rare zodiac
lost void
modest thorn
#

Oh idk I didn’t get her ult lol

teal pawn
proud vector
#

@drifting quest Sorry for ping I need a sanity check

SP recovered is not the same as SP refunded in that you can get ultimate energy when using it right? I’m not insane right?

unreal light
#

🔺
🔺 🔺

teal pawn
modest thorn
drifting quest
#

recovered sp is generally but not always unless it got fixed/was wrong able to generate energy

teal pawn
#

God I hate phase 1 marble so much

drifting quest
#

refunded sp does not give energy

lost void
proud vector
#

PerliDerp then what the fuck? Arclight only recovers SP?

unreal light
#

If only 1 marble put her tentacles to a good use

proud vector
dire nymph
#

@gritty olive just reply once u wake up

how do you view the other cells

modest thorn
#

Looks right

dire nymph
#

😭

unreal light
#

Wait they have cd on ulties?

proud vector
#

Yep

unreal light
#

Wha

rare zodiac
modest thorn
#

Everyone does, the sheet is wrong

lost void
modest thorn
#

Laevatain has one as well

unreal light
#

Do they show it in game?

dire nymph
#

stew it

unreal light
#

They don’t show it on mobile tho

modest thorn
#

Laevatain has a 10s cd for whoever made the doc

tight haven
#

with just stew + wuling and no other buffs

#

go chinese boy go

dire nymph
#

oh ure p3

#

lucksakc

gritty briar
unreal light
#

Sussy slabs in the corner

gritty briar
#

iirc gilberta ult has a cd too

unreal light
lost void
rare zodiac
#

gilb is 20s

dire nymph
#

i have this coming once i get that p3...

gritty briar
#

Oh i guess they all do have ult cds

lost void
#

So ult efficiency is 1:1 right?

silent hound
#

so I was checking the spreadsheet for yvonne
with her sig, is 1 crit gear sufficient for maintaining buff uptime? would it be better to swap another basic atk% piece with a crit piece?

proud vector
gritty briar
#

ult cd are so short i never notice that everyone has one

proud vector
#

It’s hard to reach ult CD unless you stew or have some wacky stuff going on

lost void
#

+100% is -50% ult cd?

dire nymph
#

its so fucked without p3

#

still have to 9/9 the agility on mb

proud vector
rare zodiac
lost void
#

I mean unless it is stated in potential or gear

proud vector
#

It affects ultimate energy gain which is a seperate thing

#

Usually you are bottlenecked by ultimate energy gain anyways

lost void
proud vector
#

Basically in most cases

modest thorn
unreal light
modest thorn
#

I have to purposely save my combos

elder skiff
rare zodiac
elder skiff
modest thorn
west moon
rare zodiac
elder skiff
#

i see

west moon
#

shots fired from prydwen

drifting quest
dire nymph
rare zodiac
lost void
#

Sometimes when I start fighting my ulti is already available... I wonder why?

drifting quest
#

'i will settle for less because i am lazy' aah logic

#

which is fine

rare zodiac
#

have to basic to kill time PerliWheeze

drifting quest
#

they can do what they want

unreal light
proud vector
#

PerliStareYou TC here doesn’t have a primer document still

modest thorn
#

Damn are you purposely saving your combos?

drifting quest
#

but most of the people who complain are the same ones who will also complain if they cannot clear

#

or complain their favourite units suck

modest thorn
#

Cause then you’re missing a lot of buffs and debuffs during ult

drifting quest
#

or complain they wasted resources

dire nymph
unreal light
#

My favorite black tummy gf sucks

dire nymph
#

oh

gritty olive
#

Anywahs peak fanart

dire nymph
#

ya that makes sense

unreal light
#

Where do I complain

unreal light
gritty olive
#

@dire nymph done now

dire nymph
#

yey

#

uni study delayed

gritty olive
proud vector
#

PerliDerp just you wait there will be some mythical arclight ult spam rotation that will rock your socks yeah totally whoo

gritty olive
#

I can only draw chibis mostly

rare zodiac
dire nymph
#

add that laev to the sheet

rare zodiac
#

to get it back to full instantly

modest thorn
modest thorn
#

Big waste of damage and time

gritty olive
lost void
west moon
unreal light
proud vector
#

Not the arrows pointing at the goods

rare zodiac
#

bnnuy

dire nymph
#

oh my god i wasnt schizophrenic i was right with the numbers

modest thorn
lost void
copper walrus
modest thorn
#

Oh idk I was talking with raizer about smth else

proud vector
#

PerliWheeze what’s the name of this

west moon
proud vector
#

#theorycrafting schizophrenia when multiple concurrent topics collide and people get caught in between

copper walrus
proud vector
#

PerliDerp it keeps happening LOL

west moon
#

I didn't observed it

proud vector
#

It’s sizable

modest thorn
#

I remember yesterday theorycrafting was just semanticscrafting

west moon
#

Medium size IG

copper walrus
rare zodiac
#

cake is cake even if it's cupcake

west moon
#

trust me

proud vector
#

Hey if your argument can be bogged down by semantics, it can be improved PerliStareYou

copper walrus
#

and this is why i use the en channels

west moon
#

We need to call him

modest thorn
#

“Ice doesn’t mean cryo”

copper walrus
modest thorn
copper walrus
#

i need to see the calculations NOW

west moon
copper walrus
#

give them to me

proud vector
copper walrus
lost void
#

So on progression priority where does essence place in rank? Like character level, skills/talent/masery, weapon level, artificing, essence?

unreal light
copper walrus
proud vector
drifting quest
modest thorn
#

I think it’s complicated cause there’s so many levels

modest thorn
#

U just do everything at the same time

west moon
elder skiff