kindof off topic, but i got to thinking that my mats might be better spent mastering some support skills, for example, pog seems to gain a lot from mastering his skills
#theorycrafting
torn pilot
proud vector
M1 increases the SP gains or cooldown if I remember correctly
M2+ are mostly just number
So yeah M1
pure spoke
I killed rhodogan like 70 times so i probably can estimate how well a build is xd
safe nymph
torn pilot
like whats the reason to master my endmins auto attacks when i could be mastering pogs ult instead
frozen tide
if you have a rly good lifeng mastery on btk and ult might be eventually worth since his atk becomes disgusting
summer flower
gonna do duo then and write you time, cause uploading that would be kinda iffy
foodless? @pure spoke
frozen tide
p0 lifeng with valiant is so much different from like a p4 lifeng with mb
pure spoke
gonna do duo then and write you time, cause uploading that would be kinda iffy
I would like a video tbh
pure spoke
foodless? <@216035026150621184>
Ye foodless
summer flower
its gonna be multiple minutes
its not gonna be under minute like what i was sending today
wait i cant
no i cant
purple gear
hasty grail
legacy gear set?
summer flower
ember can survive on it
i dont think endmin can tank my mistakes with purple gear
can try it but i dunno if i can do it
torn pilot
not being able to max all my characters to 90 + mastery skills is triggering my perfectionism 
proud vector
just give it a few attempts then I suppose
frozen tide
only way you can afford to have a m48 team is to be a giga megalodon
buy out every bundle and sanity refresh
torn pilot
only way you can afford to have a m48 team is to be a giga megalodon
yeah 😭
frozen tide
not even sure if you could have had enough crowns
even with buying out every crown from monthly premium shop
edgy crater
each m3 need 6 crown
frozen tide
each m3 need 6 crown
monthly shop sells like 15 and reset once right?
torn pilot
hopefully investing in endmin doesnt bite me later . . . i love endmin a lot, but i didnt realize how tight skill mastery mats were
tight haven
pog -
basic: lv1
bskill: m1
cskill: lv1
ult: m1
lifeng -
basic: lv9
bskill: m3
cskill: lv9
ult: lv9
chen -
basic: lv9
bskill: lv9
cskill: lv9
ult: lv9
endmin -
basic: lv1
bskill: lv6
cskill: lv9
ult: lv9
da pan -
basic: lv1
bskill: lv1
cskill: lv9
ult: lv6
frozen tide
tho its not realistic for a non whale to buy allat
edgy crater
monthly shop sells like 15 and reset once right?
montly only 10
frozen tide
thats 20
pure spoke
hopefully investing in endmin doesnt bite me later . . . i love endmin a lot, bu...
Endmin is pretty powerful and we dont even have all of the pots
frozen tide
how much did umbral and carly give
tight haven
the moment another phys striker releases theres like
a 90% chance endmin and da pan are getting put down
torn pilot
Endmin is pretty powerful and we dont even have all of the pots
also love their place in the story, overall im pretty satisfied leveling them up i suppose
frozen tide
endmin also has sp return that shoots the entire team in the foot
proud vector
Also endmin is 2/5 potentials so who knoooooows
edgy crater
dont remember but currently with only paid bp + no buying crown on gold cert, u can only get to m20
frozen tide
how high do you think lifeng btk and ult m3 is with high pot+mb enion
tight haven
its just kinda over for the dude assuming the new striker is good
torn pilot
idt endmin is replacing chen lifeng or pog
realistically chen/pan get powercrept the soonest
pure spoke
Endmin will be replacing everyone at p5. Being a self sustainable solo carry
tight haven
yeah da pan is even worse off
summer flower
3:22 duo no food
tight haven
dude has only pot5 going for him
heavy zealot
I dont think chen will be replaced, cause she is an easy to use vulnerable stacker. Easy to obtain too
summer flower
but probably like 3:20 cuase timer was manual
tight haven
how high do you think lifeng btk and ult m3 is with high pot+mb enion
havent run calcs for this myself
frozen tide
phys is currently heavily reliant on crush for cashout
tight haven
spitballing though i could see him pacing chen if not outright beating her
proud vector
I dont think chen will be replaced, cause she is an easy to use vulnerable stack...
No that’s the point, it’s so easy to print a 6* that does vuln on combo skill but also does like buffs or stuff
And it would fulfill Chen’s place in the team but better
torn pilot
nahh i think youre forgetting that endmin also gives the entire team +15% attack buff, and does some really sizeable off-field damage with his ult and crystals as well
asside from offering crush
pure spoke
3:22 duo no food
I need informations tho. Whats the level and everything xd video would have been nice
summer flower
to upload i need to swap out of game,
frozen tide
straight up
torn pilot
No that’s the point, it’s so easy to print a 6* that does vuln on combo skill bu...
yeah this
i love chen but unfortunately all she does is apply vulnerability and stagger atm
pure spoke
All you need
torn pilot
realistically anything that also says "apply vulnerability" and has other text, can replace her
pure spoke
And she does dmg
frozen tide
chen might get replaced with someone who applies just as much vuln but does more
like a buff or more dmg
or stagger
proud vector
Chen won’t be replaced on F2P team for sure
frozen tide
doesnt sound absurd
proud vector
but Chen+ isn’t hard to make
pure spoke
Technically they can replace anyone. Even pog with a better version
frozen tide
Chen won’t be replaced on F2P team for sure
thats true shes absurd for f2p esp with p5
chen is much more replacable than pog
tight haven
pog is hard to replace
he would need either direct powercreep or 2+ new phys members
frozen tide
pog is an sp factory and breaches
torn pilot
its hard to see them making a vanguard thats better than pog tbh, yeah
frozen tide
and can use thermite
tight haven
needs to be a vanguard that applies breach
torn pilot
the thing is that pog is already super overloaded for a vanguard
frozen tide
needs to be a vanguard that applies breach
and a vanguard that out does the pog factory sp gen
summer flower
@pure spoke uplodaing
torn pilot
considering the next best thing is akekuri . . . i really dont see pog getting powercrept soon
summer flower
pure spoke
No as easy to replace as anyone else. Just make one which does better breach and more sp. Just like how chen gets replaced with someone who dies more vul and dmg
summer flower
i was missing on ult crystal break and some other mistakes, but about as regular fight
frozen tide
more sp
proud vector
the issue is Chen’s job on the team is free vuln on combo and then do like… subdps damage no?
Also the elephant in the room
Chen is 5*
tight haven
realistically though they wont be making direct powercreep for a premium standard banner op
torn pilot
<:PerliStare:1171270701840334908> the issue is Chen’s job on the team is free vu...
correct, which is why she feels super good to use
proud vector
Pog is 6*
tight haven
this early on
torn pilot
but the reason why she could be easily powercrept is because chen lacks text
tight haven
chen or endmin/dapan are on the chopping block
torn pilot
all chen does is apply 2 stacks of vulnerability and deal some damage
tight haven
my moneys on endmin/dapan
frozen tide
the reason chens easy to replace is because ultimately when a unit with a combo skill that applies vuln like she does comes out which it will
torn pilot
yeah its kinda like akekuri
frozen tide
she doesnt buff she doesnt generate sp
tight haven
chen would stink to replace
unless she does get replaced by someone with good sequences
torn pilot
akekuri currently is super good because of what she brings to the teams that use her - but she lacks text - reasonably, any of the vanguards in the near future could powercreep her hard af and replace her role on almost every team
tight haven
i guess you could do some court jester shit maining lifeng and swapping out to bskill
but thats a really uncomfortable way to play
pure spoke
Interesting. How much does your crush do?
frozen tide
chen would stink to replace
it could just be as easy as a char with lower cd on vuln cs coming out
tight haven
who would you main then
proud vector
Oh and again it’s not like new shiny unit will mean Chen sees zero use - she will be a strong budget option I think in her role
tight haven
endmin?
frozen tide
sure
tight haven
it just wont feel good
frozen tide
more frequent vuln cs means you wont need as much fs anyways
tight haven
again unless they also have nice sequences
torn pilot
again unless they also have nice sequences
yeah but thats kindof the whole point here - its pretty outlandish to suggest that they never make a unit that happens to have 2 vulnerability stacks in a nice sequence - it gets the job done perfectly, but its also bare minimum IMO
proud vector
Chen gets powercrept by 6* Chen
frozen tide
perhaps im misjudging her but i really dont see anything chen provides thats not qol or smth that a future character is bound to have
summer flower
Interesting. How much does your crush do?
Dunno, can't remember
tight haven
i was responding only to the possibility of her being replaced FIRST
pure spoke
Watch them replace pog first
summer flower
But yea 3min 20 that's what? Not twice trim time isn't it?
heavy zealot
only thing that stands between the 6* is if you can pull them
torn pilot
in a weird way, chen is bare minimum, is the point
tight haven
i wouldnt mind a striker with good sequences coming out first
torn pilot
shes super good
frozen tide
i was responding only to the possibility of her being replaced FIRST
fair enough
da pan def getting the boot
chud panda
tight haven
mostly because endmin and da pan timelines are like
summer flower
And i did trimm with all operators being built for DPS
tight haven
im ngl
torn pilot
and its not even finished yet
heavy zealot
endmin has a lot of potential tho
but if you look at other 6* potential, its not that game changing
torn pilot
i dont, i love endmin
summer flower
Endmin... I'm prone to missing sp, not due to lack of gain, but launching something too fast
torn pilot
but if you look at other 6* potential, its not that game changing
i dont think its that reasonable to compare endmin to other p5 6* units to be fair
summer flower
Interesting. How much does your crush do?
Also dyslexia, so untill they add short numbers (with K and M etc, i won't be convinent for me to read them)
torn pilot
like call me crazy but the average player just isnt getting potential on 6* operators
summer flower
i dont think its that reasonable to compare endmin to other p5 6* units to be fa...
Its not
heavy zealot
i dont think its that reasonable to compare endmin to other p5 6* units to be fa...
cant say for sure, need to see what endmin gets on their p3~p5
proud vector
Idk returning 50 SP is a really strong potential
torn pilot
+15% attack buff to the entire team is also crazy
proud vector
And unlike primo 6* potentials endmin potentials CAN alter kit drastically
pure spoke
I think endmin will get more powerful pots than the other 6 stars pots
frozen tide
primo?
proud vector
Premium
frozen tide
ah
torn pilot
endmin is so mysterious in the story btw
proud vector
slang I picked up from god knows where
frozen tide
endmin boutta get a pot that increases crush caused by him to be amped by 1.5
summer flower
Guys, comparing P2 guaratneed on endmin, vs p5 anything that's not 4* isn't fine
tight haven
unless they straight-up change rotations to be way smoother idt i care much
torn pilot
the story kindof is eluding to something dark happening in the industries
or like a dark past
i want more story uggh
pure spoke
Dark mask
tight haven
im really only interested in interesting things happening to phys
proud vector
I mean 50 sp back is a craaaazy potential on first glance
summer flower
Later maybe for 5* if its fine for old ones?
pure spoke
<:PerliStareYou:1171270704310792332> I mean 50 sp back is a *craaaazy* potential...
Pot 4 100 sp back. Bs spam
frozen tide
theorycrafters levitate towards phys like moth to flames
proud vector
returned sp not generating ult stinks a lot
That it do, but if it wasn’t returned it would be a bit too spicy
tight haven
you can do stuff with it but its annoying to keep track of
frozen tide
unable to resist the unique composition and fucked timelines
pure spoke
We will see amiya in endfield trust me
summer flower
Anyone got timeline for ember chen endmin perlica?
proud vector
I enjoy Shatter phys because it allows my brain to be smooth and Estelle is cute
frozen tide
returned sp not generating ult stinks a lot
they should change it so it gives some sp
highk
pure spoke
Ardashir was hinting towards amiya
torn pilot
why are physical timelines "bad"?
tight haven
if they did that would be cool
tight haven
why are physical timelines "bad"?
theyre pretty ugly to execute
frozen tide
why are physical timelines "bad"?
its just super tight and awkward
its not actually bad
per se
proud vector
why are physical timelines "bad"?
They’re like a minute long before they loop and have a bunch of shenadigans you have to keep in mind to be optimal
summer flower
Minute? I don't think so
tight haven
da pan rotations literally waste sp because you want ult gen and cant do anything
endmin rotations are just kinda long
this is for maximizing dps of course
summer flower
Do you need to do 4 vunl crush?
tight haven
if youre against a weak enemy you dont need to throw the whole kit and caboodle at them
frozen tide
4 3 3 is good enough
tight haven
obviously
summer flower
Why not 2 vunl crush for tempo?
proud vector
Oh this is the 4 breach 3 crush 3 crush stuff which is like 3 sets of combo skills
tight haven
lowering dps for fun
summer flower
Not talking breach stuff
frozen tide
i dont know why or if this is even true
tight haven
okay yeah we're having entirely different convos then
frozen tide
but i thought 424 got scrapped
tight haven
the only real phys to me is premium phys
proud vector
shatter phys is chill
summer flower
Hmm shatter...
tight haven
not interested in doing low-tier shenanigans with ops i dont care to raise
summer flower
Is shatter phys dmg or cryo?
frozen tide
phys
tight haven
catcher solo/dps is the only meme team i care for 👍
proud vector
Basically phys lol
It’s ‘shatter’ because that’s how you enable Estelle to farm vuln stacks
frozen tide
estelle is a hard working single mom
proud vector
With no breach in the formula it’s just 4 crush every combo skill rotation loop
very nice and relaxing
summer flower
Ehh i dunno how it works... So you just what? Use solidification to apply susc and lift?
proud vector
Get solidify, Estelle combo to lift and apply a phys sus
Ult with Estelle for second lift
Chen for 2 more
Endmin crush
Repeat every 20 seconds
frozen tide
summer flower
Ohh wait, solidification applying might be iffy
tight haven
nah alesh covers it
summer flower
Building two operators to check something doesnt sound appealing
summer flower
I think i'm closer to flurorite DPS than this
proud vector
summer flower
To see how to plays, i think i need less investment for flourorite dps
compact bridge
Is it possible to make gilberta as a main dps? Maybe just for sanity farming
proud vector
There is the Akekuri variation as well
frozen tide
you could not hold me at gunpoint to play fluo dps
not because of anything other than her dogshit btk anims
frozen tide
he can?
summer flower
No solidification then
frozen tide
what fills the sp gap
summer flower
what gives solidifcation?
proud vector
You can just Akekuri for fire infliction
summer flower
in shatter?
proud vector
I’m not saying it’s smoother lmao
frozen tide
is estelle a good unit for 4*
tight haven
Is it possible to make gilberta as a main dps? Maybe just for sanity farming
yeah you can, but it probably wont play that well
tight haven
you can run some chucklefuck shit like akekuri pog uhhh
xaaaaaiiiiiiiiihiiiiii?
gilb
proud vector
like uh Akekuri ult does give more SP than Alesh but she needs so much energy gen to even pretend to keep up with the rotation
frozen tide
xaihi probs a must
summer flower
i was thinking flurorite + something + something + xaihi
tight haven
yeah i was between her and arde but arde does less
tight haven
hmm
summer flower
slap stanza on xaihi
proud vector
I mean Yvonne uses Gilberta as a subdps no?
Gilberta succ to stack nature and also her lift to proc the solidify
It’s a beefy shatter cuz you pump inflictions into it
frozen tide
I mean Yvonne uses Gilberta as a subdps no?
yesnt
summer flower
ohh it shatters
proud vector
Else it just kinda times out for Yvonne
summer flower
i thought they meant from cryo to solidification
proud vector
And you lose that juicy mult
frozen tide
because of ult bp and wanting eternal xira gilb cant rly build a lot of dmg
frozen tide
but still sorta functions as one
compact bridge
you can run some chucklefuck shit like akekuri pog uhhh
So gilberta pog akekuri xaihi?
proud vector
it IS juicy mult though
tight haven
So gilberta pog akekuri xaihi?
feels right to me yeah
summer flower
ardelia is source of forced corrosion right?
frozen tide
yes
proud vector
Mhm
compact bridge
feels right to me yeah
Can chen replace pog?
proud vector
Tiny baby corrosion
frozen tide
7 second t1 corrosion
proud vector
Chen is not pog
compact bridge
How does reaction scale ?
frozen tide
reaction scales with atk operator lvl reaction lvl arts intensity
tight haven
Can chen replace pog?
no pog is there for sp regen spam
proud vector
Unlike HSR reactions scale like normal attacks
compact bridge
How about all kind of buff like gilbert sig ?
proud vector
even atk% buffs reactions
proud vector
there is a discrepancy in base knowledge, so communication is hard
frozen tide
if a weapon has phys dmg bonus it should apply
compact bridge
Hmm
frozen tide
im not sure if im answering the question you intended
proud vector
Huh
Now that I think about it
Arts damage won’t buff shatter damage since it’s physical
compact bridge
So any reaction have the same scale, their dmg differ based on atk, art intensity and the reaction stack
proud vector
that is a bit of an L for Yvonne
frozen tide
So any reaction have the same scale, their dmg differ based on atk, art intensit...
it also scales off operator lvl
proud vector
No, go read the damage formula again
Reactions don’t all scale the same, their multiplier depends on level and intensity, but otherwise they scale like a normal skill
frozen tide
if your comps dmg largely comes from reactions you want the reaction initiator to be lvl 90
what does that fire reactio n mean
compact bridge
No, go read the damage formula again
Reactions don’t all scale the same, their...
I mean, let say gilberta can proc combustion and corrosion, both combustion and corrosion should deal the same dmg right?
proud vector
Gilberta cannot proc combustion
compact bridge
I know bruh
summer flower
proud vector
the initial reaction hit is the same but combustion does have a damage over time component
summer flower
calc this then
proud vector
So yesn’t they do the same damage
summer flower
ehh?
proud vector
Cuz DoT
summer flower
initinal? corrion vs combustion?
summer flower
ohh okay boh are reaction
summer flower
what's example of burst?
frozen tide
burst is just same infliction
proud vector
Ice stack on ice stack violence
frozen tide
like if enemy has a cryo stack
proud vector
summer flower
ohh oKAY
frozen tide
lrs dmg does not come from bursts
nova lance
Best ardelia set?
frozen tide
it comes from stacking 20 billion buffs to cs and ult
summer flower
like you would want to just have application of same element over and over?
if it was to play for burst?
compact bridge
4 cryo + nature should deal the same damage with 4 heat + nature right?
frozen tide
if a char with a very specific kit made to play off bursts sure
summer flower
4 cryo + nature should deal the same damage with 4 heat + nature right?
DoT diff
frozen tide
dont believe theres any char rn where its optimal to play off bursts
bursts are a sub product
frozen tide
but i highk do see the potential of a future char being released with a burst kit
frozen tide
Isnt cryo + nature and heat + nature both result in corrosion?
any element +nature is corrosion
in this game initial infliction doesnt matter for the type of reaction
proud vector
it’s just that reactions are pretty expensive
frozen tide
forced reactions are pretty meta rn
lr does psuedo reactions where instead of an actual reaction she just scarfs cryo down and shits out dmg
compact bridge
Is it worth it to stack 4 heat then proc corrosion, or should i proc corrosion with 1 stack of heat?
proud vector
The effect of corrosion scales with the level (number of inflictions consumed from 1-4)
frozen tide
with lower tier corrosion
but
theres not much meaningful application of this rn
corrosion also takes 10 seconds to get to full potency
proud vector
We lack the characters that enjoy permanent corrosion
compact bridge
is you can reset higher tier corrosion duration
What does corrosion do? I thought it just deal some initial dmg?
frozen tide
this potency stays as long as corrosion never ends
it reduces enemy resistance
which just correlates to a dmg multiplier
dry kindle
Additively
frozen tide
Additively
whar
dry kindle
Very funny if we can ever use it properly
compact bridge
So higher tier corrosio reduce more of it? Or is it just longer duration?
frozen tide
reduces more
dry kindle
If enemy has 0.8 its 0.8+0.24 not x1.24
frozen tide
ohhhhhh
proud vector
Oh for the resistance stat
proud vector
No that makes sense
proud vector
Eh it makes it not scale with how high enemy resistances are
but turns the damage a little funky
dry kindle
Enemies dont have innate above 1
frozen tide
perhaps i was too harsh on you ardelia corrosion
proud vector
It also makes it much worse if the enemy is weak already to the element
dry kindle
They won't get negative element resists
dry kindle
proud vector
frozen tide
Eh it makes it not scale with how high enemy resistances are
wait but if an enemy has high resistance the multiplier will be lower
and corrosion adds to that right
frozen tide
If enemy has 0.8 its 0.8+0.24 not x1.24
.
wouldnt that mean it scales better with high resist mobs
if anything
if an enemy has 0.1
corrosion would make it 0.34
which is 10 billion increase
frozen tide
corrosion stonks rising
proud vector
Amazing
frozen tide
240 percent
frozen tide
that doesnt mean 340 percent increase
340 percent total dmg
you alr did 100 percent without corrosion
its +240 percent
proud vector
Suppose so
Language is beating my ass
The meaning is understood but distorted by the tongue
frozen tide
turning into a seaborn
proud vector
it’s time to distort
frozen tide
i dont actually know how to feel about this
from my understanding if they ever introduce higher res mob/bosses
corrosion is not going to be optional
its gonna be practically mandatory
what else in the game shreds res
percentage dmg isnt even a thing yet
either gonna be percent dmg slop or corrosion slop
compact bridge
from my understanding if they ever introduce higher res mob/bosses
Ardelia alter
compact bridge
Ardelia alter will forcefully apply corrosion after any reaction happen
edgy crater
from my understanding if they ever introduce higher res mob/bosses
this will happened on cc for sure
atk down 3, hp up 3, res up 3
u will see lr doing catcher dps
frozen tide
lr has a crutch already for that
when you cs as rite
you are supposed to consume the cryo
mild quarry
atk down 3, hp up 3, res up 3
Hp scaling dmg, shield scaling dmg, oh no...
frozen tide
but you dont actually consume the cryo until a lot later than even the final hit of cs
you can use that cryo to proc corrosion
edgy crater
nah i mean stat stick op kinda suffering on cc
frozen tide
so you get dmg and ult charge from cryo stacks
but can still use that cryo
for 4 stack corrosion
edgy crater
nah schling, atk down 3 can make lr only got 1k atk
mild quarry
Although a shield explosion would be kinda cool, the no hands playstyle of it would be horrendous
pine wadi
i feel like everyone talks about bonekrusha poncho or frontiers for LR but yinglung honestly seems better than them both with my testing, at least with total damage in a rotation using 3 LR main skills, a combo skill and ult
i can see poncho being much more valuable if you can delete a boss with just a combo skill but it doesn't give any ult damage
frozen tide
nah schling, atk down 3 can make lr only got 1k atk <:PerliWheeze:11712726626648...
yeah but like what operator wouldnt get nuked by that
nuke laevs atk down to 1.5k
see how much she does
edgy crater
yeah but like what operator wouldnt get nuked by that
any niche op dat doesnt effected by atk down
edgy crater
ye, for now
wanton notch
catcher solo/dps is the only meme team i care for 👍
wanton notch
Chen for 2 more
I like to do a bit different rotation, but because I use Aethertech Edmin:
Edmin BS -> Estella BS / Alesh ult -> Alesh BS -> Estelle combo -> Estella ult -> Alesh and Chen combo -> Edmjn combo -> Edmin Battle skill
(Gives 4 vulnerability stacks to crush)
normal tangle
given gilberta's current kit, what could be her potential bis unit? she feels kinda awkward
she wants an arts dmg dealer that also uses vuln stacks, no?
crude crag
.umbral
crystal coralBOT
ocean hawk
is this too much for gilb (ult gain)
normal tangle
no such thing as too much
it's only too much when you get your ult back before cooldown ends
modest thorn
anyone know where im messing up? i dont have p5 detonation and dreams so i can't kill him but im always off on antal's heat susc and idk where to save the time from
outer ermine
if its not for speedrunning then u can antal ult after dodge
ocean hawk
it's only too much when you get your ult back before cooldown ends
aight then. I mean if theres another glove that better suited / have useful stat for gilb like art intensity or something that can be used
outer ermine
and u need better timing on ur ard combo, ur just extending slowtime when ur pressing late
modest thorn
i think i tried using it earlier before but it misses sometimes while he's jumping, but i'll test it again cause i might just have done something wrong
outer ermine
in that vid, he can ard cs at ~1.300s and itll still pop just as rhod comes down. whether it matters idk i dont play this comp
modest thorn
oh gotcha yeah
outer ermine
actually wasnt there a 2 tier speed rot already
i jsut woke up and bout to be late but lemme see first
outer ermine
just means staccing combos, that rot is doing 3 separate combos and that slow time stacks up
ahh
modest thorn
oh damn alr
outer ermine
timing ard cs to pop w gil+laev cs should be should be the play there
so its ard cs then antal+laev+gil for 2 tier
normal tangle
ardelia #1 combustion applier fr
lusty kernel
unreal light
congrats!
noble tapir
Meanwhile I've probably done 20 runs for a Yvonne essence so far and haven't gotten shit yet :(
signal sundial
I did 2 weeks worth of runs for avyw's essence only to get hers and ardelias last night back to back
normal tangle
that's good tbh
longer it takes to get the essence is just more fodder for when you actually get it
noble tapir
I got all my physical units essences, my laev essence, and my gilberta essence incredibly quickly, so I was due for something like this lol
normal tangle
Meanwhile I've probably done 20 runs for a Yvonne essence so far and haven't got...
sign from heaven to not use yvonne
noble tapir
longer it takes to get the essence is just more fodder for when you actually get...
Yeah, but I got other stuff I need to farm lol (LIKE FUCKING CREDITS MAN WHY IS THE T-CRED INCOME SO ASS)
noble tapir
sign from heaven to not use yvonne
Nope. The gear screen has baited me too hard
noble tapir
<:erm:1435788503341338705>
normal tangle
maybe skill issue idk
noble tapir
It's cause I've built two teams, I think
normal tangle
i have also done that
i have laeva and avywenna
phys team does take like a considerable amount more investment to be good though
triple dps comp 
bronze plume
is it sad if i get slightly happy seeing 20 arsenal tickets in my acq center
noble tapir
My Yvonne's probably not going to be done until the end of 1.1 lmao
valid zealot
is it sad if i get slightly happy seeing 20 arsenal tickets in my acq center
Overexposure to petiteness.
bronze plume
i just did bro
valid zealot
We should thank HG.
bronze plume
thank you hypergryph for this PIECE OF lovely content video game you have brang us
valid zealot
lost void
it's only too much when you get your ult back before cooldown ends
Is it possible to get her ult down to 10 seconds or even 5?
short dagger
Its possible that Thermite Cutter will appear in Arsenal for guarantee grab right?
Has there bee a pattern?
bronze plume
i love this game and it loves me
valid zealot
normal tangle
Is it possible to get her ult down to 10 seconds or even 5?
with current gear definitely not
cooldown is 20s anyway
bronze plume
what do i even spend sanity on i dont have any crowns
imma just lvl 90 gilberta and avy bro
heady pine
Its possible that Thermite Cutter will appear in Arsenal for guarantee grab righ...
yeah its possible and no pattrn
noble tapir
Its possible that Thermite Cutter will appear in Arsenal for guarantee grab righ...
Hasn't been long enough for a pattern to form
bronze plume
How do you not have any crowns? lol
well you see when you spend a limited resource it kinda gets used
me when using the unfarmable resources uses it
noble tapir
modest thorn
is there a laevatain skip for rhodagn that doesn't require a p5 weapon on eveyr support 
bronze plume
W
peak void
Irene burger
open hare
Irene burger
edgy crater
me when using the unfarmable resources uses it
w8 how u got the last crown?
ain't u only enough for m20?
bronze plume
shop i think
indigo pine
has anybody tested specifically if last rite's passive works on gilberta's arts susceptibility
peak void
would it be okay to keep this for stanza
bronze plume
yes
vagrant sparrow
idk what to spend my sanity on anymore lol
peak void
spend it on stuff ™
modest thorn
max out essences 
dry kindle
has anybody tested specifically if last rite's passive works on gilberta's **art...
Is gilberta cryo susceptibility
indigo pine
no she does arts susceptibility
so im wondering if anyone tested if her passive works on it
restive crescent
should b pretty easy to isolate....... if i had last rite
indigo pine
which you would think no by reading "well, arts susc =/= cryo susc" but you can never trust tooltips too much sometimes
my last rite is level 1 so ill level her up a bit to test
peak void
there are... better things to raise..
open hare
Yeah
vagrant sparrow
like what
restive crescent
do what ur heart desires
open hare
My damn
vagrant sparrow
my essences are maxed and no content requires more than 1 team right now
vagrant sparrow
ok. getting edmin to 90/90 it is
dry kindle
which you would think no by reading "well, arts susc =/= cryo susc" but you can ...
Its keyworded so
Surely they didn't mis tl a keyword 
weak meteor
has anybody tested specifically if last rite's passive works on gilberta's **art...
it doesnt
one is cryo and one is arts
its different susceptibility
edgy crater
How was everyone's operators and factory
waiting tangtang home to restock so i can shove another batch of batteries 
peak void
How was everyone's operators and factory
I just reduced factory count today
open hare
waiting tangtang home to restock so i can shove another batch of batteries <:Kek...
Wow, I cant believe you would do that to our Supreme chief
weak meteor
is that just an assumption or have u tested
its been tested before
indigo pine
gotcha
weak meteor
susceptibility amplification and susceptibility Σ are different
indigo pine
isnt there only 1 multiplier for susc
they're all additive with each other iir
iirc
weak meteor
yea
peak void
shall i fodder all my stanza into one copy
indigo pine
do you know if it's been ruled out that there's a potential funny interaction when both arts + cryo susceptibility are present
peak void
will this be peak
indigo pine
shall i fodder all my stanza into one copy
theres no reason to have 2 unless they lock weapons to teams and require 2 teams in later content
peak void
yeah what if they do indeed do that 🥀
edgy crater
just spare at least 1 then
peak void
stanza: please spare me 🙏
gritty olive
peak void
you should do a plunge trim
open hare
We don't have enough characters
Also
As for the collab with the base game arknights
I am officially fucked
I cant re-download in on my only device that can load en versions
No Ave Mujica characters for me
edgy crater
emulator
open hare
edgy crater
lmao rip
open hare
I actually cant do anything and my bud hasn't responded so he can log in my account and speedrun
indigo pine
its been tested before
do you have a source for this
open hare
do you have a source for this
The source is he made it the fuck up✌️ I am joking
indigo pine
i spent a bunch of sanity injections so i could test it myself anyway
and yeah it does work with normal arts susceptibility
not specifically cryo
open hare
What is that anime character
edgy crater
its not our god madoka for sure
open hare
theres no reason to have 2 unless they lock weapons to teams and require 2 teams...
We're definitely gonna have two player content at some point
edgy crater
indigo pine
i had a christian missionary knock on my door before and when they asked me about religion i spent 30 mins explaining madoka to them
open hare
It's unavoidable, its gonna happen. Trust
open hare
Puella puella magi Madoka is fire
indigo pine
there's currently no point to ever have more than 1 team, which can get stale
open hare
there's currently no point to ever have more than 1 team, which can get stale
I agree with that
indigo pine
especially seeing that theres like no forced elemental weakness or advantage
but tbh thank god for this im tired of like playing electric team and finding an electric slime/cube/whatever in the overworld and its like "welp haha time to run out of combat and switch teams"
indigo pine
i think they're kinda easing us into it which i think is fine
gives people time to build
open hare
They should give us mote materials or ways to get more materials overall for building
Kinda broke on exp
More sanity or overall ascension materials can help too tbh
open hare
Poverty in ascension materials, rich in bills
weak meteor
do you know if it's been ruled out that there's a potential funny interaction wh...
all sus is additive so youll just do more cryo damage compared to everything ellse if that makes sense
weak meteor
do you have a source for this
i just tested it
just to confirm
but everyhting should be listed in the damage doc
noble tapir
poverty simulator !!
Don't fucking remind me :(
weak meteor
The source is he made it the fuck up✌️ I am joking
im coming for you
open hare
im coming for you
unreal light
what is the chance to get twilight in V4?
I spent 15 tickets and only got one twi out of 50 essences
lmao
is it meant to be only farmed in wuling, or is it just my unlucky sample?
indigo pine
all sus is additive so youll just do more cryo damage compared to everything ell...
yeah i was just looking to see if her passive worked on normal susc even though its not stated (which it indeed does)
unreal light
I spent 15 tickets and only got one twi out of 50 essences
I feel robbed
wind nebula
is it meant to be only farmed in wuling, or is it just my unlucky sample?
Go to the effluvium in the operation Manual and there's a button that'll let you view what can drop there
unreal light
Go to the effluvium in the operation Manual and there's a button that'll let you...
yeah, I've checked the operation manual like 7 times at this point
I wonder if different passives have different chances of appearing
as in my case I got only one twilight essence out of 48
wind nebula
My understanding was that her sig was farmed in Wuling, that and you made it sound like you were farming in valley 4 somewhere
unreal light
I ain't farming for laev
wind nebula
Either way, the prevailing understanding is that the odds are even
unreal light
I'm farming for chen sig and wedge at Origin Lodespring
jade nebula
and yeah it does work with normal arts susceptibility
don't know if you need a 2nd confirmation, but got the same results. (lr's 1.5x susc multiplier worked even when it was only gilberta's susc that was active too)
Raw: 2797
lr susc: 2797 * (1+(0.12*1.5) = 3300
both sucs: 4055
Just gilberta: 3552
fun fact i just found out: if lr applies solidification, she still applies her cryo sucs
indigo pine
i appreciate the double checking !!
working on mathing out yvonne + lastrite and it's so giga cursed i don't like it lol
but i'm sure people are interested to see if it works...
restive crescent
don't know if you need a 2nd confirmation, but got the same results. (lr's 1.5x ...
what skill level
jade nebula
not sure if you meant talent, skill or smthing else
restive crescent
oh sorry i meant for gil
indigo pine
this was my test for reference (m1 gil ult is 30% base), with x1.2 passive only
yes my last rite is ulting for 300 damage don't make fun of her
indigo pine
also does anyone know if gilb ult snapshots vuln, or is it a live calc (e.g. if i have, say, 2 stacks of vuln that drop off after the initial part of the ult, does the susc go down)?
gonna test but jw if anyone already tested
jade nebula
gilb sucs last 5s
vuln last 20s
indigo pine
it is a snapshot
(added a stack after, and it didn't affect the debuff)
this is really nice for yvonne teams though because there is a huge issue with vuln dropping off due to having to hold gilb combo to not break solidification
lilac bloom
would it be better to give perlica the oblivion over the wild wanderer for an electric team or is her personal damage too low to bother
indigo pine
would it be better to give perlica the oblivion over the wild wanderer for an el...
depends on the rotation/team, they're very close, with gilb oblivion is slightly better
lilac bloom
i do have gilberta
i got 2 oblivions while pulling for her weapon
this is what i was gonna run
indigo pine
id replace akekuri with gilb
lilac bloom
im planning on getting jet for avywenna from the free weapon box
i
shes right there?
lilac bloom
😭
indigo pine
nvm ur fine
jade nebula
run 2 glib smh
indigo pine
lilac bloom
so with gilberta oblivion picks up over wild wanderer?
summer flicker
run 2 glib smh
90 art sus team when
lilac bloom
mind you my wild wanderer is p1
flat agate
rhodagn became patchwork 😭
weak meteor
for personal damage
indigo pine
team damage
edgy crater
rhodagn became patchwork 😭
testing subject
lilac bloom
like does the team damage difference make up for the difference in perlica's personal damage
weak meteor
but youre missing out on avy buff
restive crescent
proly been calced
indigo pine
i ran extensive calcs & sims on this specific topic
around a ~3-4% team dps increase for oblivion perlica over p5 wild wanderer in gilb team
restive crescent
what do yall assume in calcs rn
indigo pine
actual dmg differential looks something like this:
restive crescent
artificed or not
indigo pine
weak meteor
like does the team damage difference make up for the difference in perlica's per...
surprisingly no
lilac bloom
wilf
indigo pine
in calcs, fully artificed, 9/9/4 for 6* weps, 9/9/9 for 5* weps
weak meteor
obvlivion is actually good but i was calculating assuming no equipment and no electrification
lilac bloom
wild*
indigo pine
perlica kinda hits like a truck with a proper rotation
heady pine
perlica the goat
indigo pine
well
think of it like this
if there is a new arts unit intellect main
they'll probably have a sig and a discount "battlepass sig"
so no need to sit on standards
summer flicker
me when bp sig is way worst than stanza
restive crescent
gg time to update 5 cells
weak meteor
sadly i havent been doing too much rotation calcs just yet but dying over 50 page doc
lilac bloom
oh wait should gilberta be using stanza
i have her personal wep cause the ult regen looked really nice 😭
weak meteor
her sig buffs way more so if you can slot combo in before or after ult then sig
restive crescent
stanza proly better
lilac bloom
i do have a thermite cutter akekuri on the team as well
indigo pine
im working on a super calc tool that will greatly expedite the tc process :3 but trying to get together a guide for yvonne release so its on temporary hold for a few days while i manually sheet for now
restive crescent
but sig aes :3
summer flicker
heard stanza better, at least in yvonne
sig can enable art stacking on gilb-> stronger corrosion so unsure in rotation that can use gilb corrosion
indigo pine
for yvonne team, stanza better
for electric team, gilb sig lets you use arts intensity set and u get super big corrosion as laffey mentioned
u technically get like a baby corrosion that's like ~5% on your yvonne burst but scaling that up doesn't really do too much xd
summer flicker
Where's my laffey III
idk PerliSnap
restive crescent
baby corrosion is kinda nice since im seeing yvonne ult do like 40% of her personal dmg per rotation
weak meteor
im working on a super calc tool that will greatly expedite the tc process :3 but...
can i see 👉 👈 🥺
restive crescent
more if u skill less
open hare
idk [PerliSnap](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1171272249391722506.webp?size=...
Im married to you
summer flicker
summer flicker
indigo pine
can i see 👉 👈 🥺
its all backend code rn
echo cove
what's the highest int l80 xaihi can get rn?
indigo pine
let me cook
summer flicker
its all backend code rn <:maygipain:1088159238859268237>
you can flash bang chat with your code screenshot
open hare
Laffey
summer flicker
what's the highest int l80 xaihi can get rn?
600 ish
lilac bloom
eventually im gonna have to learn how the arts infliction system works
restive crescent
#debugging
summer flicker
note my chest is not max right now
lilac bloom
ive been bashing my head against the game with phys team
summer flicker
the other 3 is maxed
open hare
note my chest is not max right now
I can tell from the game your chest isnt maxed
In azur lane
weak meteor
its all backend code rn <:maygipain:1088159238859268237>
o mb i thought it was to some working state
gl though
indigo pine
can i see 👉 👈 🥺
basically the logic handles dynamic damage calculations (e.g. when i move avywenna combo before the skill, the skill updates accordingly and will no longer have the thunderlance damage)
every calculation also keeps a "receipt" of all the buffs/debuffs and detailed breakdown of the full calculation
the frontend will be a timeline similar to end-axis where you can drag operator skills onto it, except the main diff here is you'll be able to see the damage calculated live with every event & can mouse-over any event to see the details
lot of work though so i do my best to find time ~
(it'll be open source n all)
outer ermine
flashbang in several ways
open hare
Holy
open hare
We have a anime girl that codes
restive crescent
live damage with every time u drag the event?
indigo pine
yeah
open hare
And streams peak gameplay?
restive crescent
that sounds absurdly frequent
open hare
Guys, we are seeing a fraction of her power
open hare
Holiday
peak void
that sounds absurdly frequent
you know what else is frequent
https://x.com/3letter_/status/2024207386391544267
X
lilac bloom
poor girl is jobless
open hare
Where's my arknights endfield at my lawson
restive crescent
OSU
summer flicker
i see, thx
i did some calc and around 611
twilit quail
oh god never mind antal is only 9 rmb
lilac bloom
lawson is a brand from where idr
open hare
lawson is a brand from where idr
Im in Japan
humble matrix
The pinned sheet is bs. Xaihi in LR team recommended frontier kit pieces "cause we need to stack int so here we are." Xaihi with Xiranite and Detonation reaches 400+. Ardelia chest piece rec Xiranite, for what? Arts? Nonsense 🫠
summer flicker
maybe 608 or sth when lvl 80 tho
lilac bloom
Im in Japan
oh ok
outer ermine
oh god never mind antal is only 9 rmb
absolutely fair
humble matrix
The pinned sheet is bs. Xaihi in LR team recommended frontier kit pieces "cause ...
Believing nothing on it with all this
summer flicker
would this even like worth, in exchange for a bit of int ( around -20 int) for 15% combo cd
lilac bloom
And no, I'm not shipping irl anime girls to anyone
i wasnt gonna ask 😭
restive crescent
if ur ult gain efficiency is 20 and u have another xiranite user its not that bad
lilac bloom
i dont ship products overseas that often ive only done it for the mofu mofu cernnunos plushy bc he was big and fluffy
indigo pine
would this even like worth, in exchange for a bit of int ( around -20 int) for 1...
ive been comparing eternal xiranite to frontiers in calcs and its just better to run eternal xiranite to have the buff up for most of the fight
rare zodiac
would this even like worth, in exchange for a bit of int ( around -20 int) for 1...
her CS already low cd so maybe not
indigo pine
even if running it on gilb who will only have it up for burst
twilit quail
The pinned sheet is bs. Xaihi in LR team recommended frontier kit pieces "cause ...
you dont know how xaihi works
restive crescent
wait what team is this assuming
summer flicker
ive been comparing eternal xiranite to frontiers in calcs and its just better to...
how much energy does she need, since she do alot of skill and combo skill so it shouldnt be that much
restive crescent
in yvonne teams i find that 60-70% of the time u dont even have to delay the 2nd big hit for her cs cd
indigo pine
yvonne / perlica / xaihi / gilb
restive crescent
in practice
indigo pine
how much energy does she need, since she do alot of skill and combo skill so it ...
rotation generates 79 energy / she needs 80
so just a drop
edgy crater
The pinned sheet is bs. Xaihi in LR team recommended frontier kit pieces "cause ...
xaihi amp capped at 1.2k int
summer flicker
humble matrix
you dont know how xaihi works
Wdym? The purpose of int is to maximize ult, yes?
rich linden
Wtf is an irl anime girl
summer flicker
@indigo pine
open hare
Wtf is an irl anime girl <:PerliWaaaaa:1145586641629609995>
Dont worry about it.
rich linden
Wdym? The purpose of int is to maximize ult, yes?
You don't know
lilac bloom
the lift from gilberta's skill causes a vuln stack right?
open hare
lilac bloom
so it'll trigger perlica's bounce
summer flicker
frontier would make you not have to wait for xaihi combo to be up right
compact bridge
Will xiahi got a drop rate boost on yvonne banner?
open hare
so it'll trigger perlica's bounce
She bounced alright
indigo pine
uhhh, well
summer flicker
Will xiahi got a drop rate boost on yvonne banner?
i dont even roll 😭
indigo pine
perlica combo is what will be triggering the gilb combo
lilac bloom
yall have dirty minds
summer flicker
im skipping till fricking 1.1 tangtang
lilac bloom
oh
open hare
yall have dirty minds
lilac bloom
darn
bronze plume
Will xiahi got a drop rate boost on yvonne banner?
do 5 stars even get drop chance boosts in the first place
compact bridge
do 5 stars even get drop chance boosts in the first place
No idea
open hare
im skipping till fricking 1.1 tangtang
What about mountain dew fangyi feet
rich linden
I think its completely random
open hare
do 5 stars even get drop chance boosts in the first place
It's a lie
summer flicker
What about mountain dew fangyi feet
depends if i can make her playable
open hare
Shes gonna be playable
indigo pine
if u had to pick one between rossi and tangtang, which one
open hare
Death be upon ye merry men
open hare
if u had to pick one between rossi and tangtang, which one
Rossi
rich linden
if u had to pick one between rossi and tangtang, which one
Rossi
restive crescent
rossi
outer ermine
rossi
summer flicker
if u had to pick one between rossi and tangtang, which one
tangtang
rich linden
Yep
summer flicker
i want to say both
outer ermine
4:1 u doomed
rich linden
Rossi hater
Nooo
open hare
Both is good
summer flicker
indigo pine
just get lucky
rich linden
Both is good
restive crescent
just lose to tang tang on rossi banner
open hare
Laffey has rich
summer flicker
maybe tangtang comes after rossi
i have used all my luck, bruh
rich linden
just lose to tang tang on rossi banner
Easiest gacha of my life
lilac bloom
is rossi confirmed as our next op?
open hare
Of course the laziest and sleepiest ship has the most pulls
rich linden
is rossi confirmed as our next op?
No lol
restive crescent
i cant wait to brick my account with rossi
wind nebula
if u had to pick one between rossi and tangtang, which one
Rossi
open hare
Where's my warfarin
warm galleon
I got gilb on 120 pity but got lae and yvonne on my way to it
summer flicker
4 rolls yvonne, 25 rolls gilb, i can only go down from here
bronze plume
nobody is confirmed as the next op
open hare
Where's my bagpipe
indigo pine
are we furry for liking rossi
open hare
No
lilac bloom
no?
summer flicker
are we furry for liking rossi
al char in here have "fur"
bronze plume
the 'most likely' is tangtang going by the livestream
open hare
Thats a furry
indigo pine
some have feathers
restive crescent
what do u call a feather furry