theorycrafting

[frozen tide]

?

[drifting quest]

I look at rihq for ak cn tls and datamines only

[frozen tide]

hes a deadass bluewhale?

[drifting quest]

No

Ive spent $16

[twilit quail]

this man bought $30 pack

kill him

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141128

[tranquil burrow]

it's funny $16 and we know exactly what those 3 things are

[bitter cove]

what a server (i never open it)

[tranquil burrow]

16 0.99 orig bundles

[tight haven]

tru

[twilit quail]

Im kind of surprised you didnt pick up with the stories I was telling

[tranquil burrow]

it took me a while as well

[bold rose]

I did bought premium BP

xdd

[manic blade]

whel whel whel

[bold rose]

and arsenal bundle to get the last 2k for Laev sig

yes it legit took pity despite me getting Laev in 20

[tight haven]

its ok

[tranquil burrow]

did you spend tickets elsewhere

[tight haven]

i had to buy

30 arsenal ticket packs

[tranquil burrow]

because game gives more than enough to pity lavacake sig

[tight haven]

to get laev sig

(p5)

[drifting quest]

8 goes for laev sig
6 goes for gilb sig
1 valiant buy
like 3 fortmakers
1 stanza

and im poor

[outer ermine]

donate for my monthly

[bold rose]

the point is I lucked out on getting Laev in 20 so I don't have the arsenal ticks

[tight haven]

donate crits

[twilit quail]

I went in on lae banner just to like secure my own gameplay experience and not get cancer

[tranquil burrow]

hmm, you also have 110 standards + 40 beginner, so like 3 more 6 stars

that should've been enough

[twilit quail]

but then the more I played the more I liked her

the magic of 3d I suppose

[manic blade]

her story was kinda sweg

[tranquil burrow]

I grew to like her over time

[quasi quarry]

i assume you also went p5 laevatain, out of curiosity how many pulls did that take

[tranquil burrow]

I really hated her outfit at first (except the metal ring thing which is really cool) but then it grew on me

[outer ermine]

im trying a new rot and i cant even get to the part when i need to gamble crit

[tight haven]

480

it took uh

one second

[drifting quest]

ok but like surely its worth the what $200

[manic blade]

I got it in 360 :3

[twilit quail]

I miss the stockings man

it's not right without it

[tight haven]

all the origeo 1st times
4 of the $100 origeo packs
and the two packs with 10x chartered tickets

[quasi quarry]

naruhutao

[tight haven]

and of course literally all of the free pulls

from 1.0

[quasi quarry]

honestly maybe it could be possible if i save for the rerun

[tight haven]

hopefully reruns in ef arent awful

[drifting quest]

reliant on the 1.1/1.2 payout to make it for tangtang and/or rossi

and its gonna be like

10 pulls

[frozen tide]

i cant type

go

on

it gets filtered

i was gonna say goo

niana

[twilit quail]

[tranquil burrow]

go on

[quasi quarry]

cooked

[drifting quest]

no henchmaning in this server buddy

[quasi quarry]

if she gets other teammates in the long run idk what i'd do i just have to see things ig

[tranquil burrow]

everyone's coping it'll be rossi

[quasi quarry]

i think it'll stay at coping

[tranquil burrow]

what are the odds we get a 6 star fluorite alter

i need her 6 star version

[drifting quest]

low

[spice flame]

I got her on 19 pull so... ehe
#salt-mine-gacha-flex message

[drifting quest]

wrap it up buddy

[bold rose]

I assume we all bought the $1 Endmin sword right

[next helm]

Shuo

wtf

[bitter cove]

no

[tranquil burrow]

for the main story drip

[drifting quest]

'im skipping gilb she aint that good'
'ok im pulling her but just p0'
'ok i need arsenal tokens for sig ill pull some more'
'ok i have p1 i might as well grab p2'

[spice flame]

i mean got p1 laeva so it's fair for me :<

[next helm]

You really believing in potential woman

where is that graph you have

[quasi quarry]

like literally 0 patch gap for a team upgrade on a limited unit is such a bad outlook this early

[tranquil burrow]

i kinda regret pulling gilb so i rely on the strong gilb agenda to keep me going

[drifting quest]

yv*nne

-1 banner gap

[tranquil burrow]

im going to pull yvonne because i pulled gilb

[drifting quest]

i gotta go farm protohedrons too for gilb because turns out building 14 units ruins your income

[quasi quarry]

im gonna be real with u i know nothing about yvonne

havent even read her kit

[tranquil burrow]

people complaining about pull income from umbral but it was so goated for the protohedrons it gave

[next helm]

I'd like to try boss more

but my game runs ass

[twilit quail]

I hope yvonne leaves me alone

for a while

[tranquil burrow]

are you going to skip her

[twilit quail]

I have friend accounts I can borrow to ever test anything out for the document

I dont want this hoe on my own acc

[next helm]

You can test things out on me too

flushed

[tranquil burrow]

i either skip tangtang or i skip yvonne

there's no chance im building a phys team so

[next helm]

What about both

[tight haven]

dude

is there nobody with p5 lifeng who can show me what he looks like at p5

[drifting quest]

visual wise?

[tight haven]

yeah

[drifting quest]

or combat wise

[tight haven]

what do i

search up...

hold on...

[neat snow]

I saw a post with all the p5 visuals the other day I'll see if I can find it

[drifting quest]

i literally saw it like

yeah

[tight haven]

im looking for whatever glowy bits he gets at p5

[neat snow]

He gets a yellow dragon on his chest

Or something

[bold rose]

honestly even if better phys comes around I would still be using endmin once I start building phys
MC aura is mandatory

[tight haven]

oh?

[tranquil burrow]

i pulled gilberta, and i have a feeling they might just ditch 1.0 units entirely instead of later giving suitable teammates and shift their unit design philosophy after tons of surveys, so im going to pull yvonne so i may as well make use of the intended synergy

[twilit quail]

goddamn still no one has gotten a better time than 25s for physical

it's over

[tight haven]

phys cooked

yvonne solos

[drifting quest]

wasnt there a 22s

[tight haven]

wrap it up

[tranquil burrow]

MC is literally a penguin what aura

[tight haven]

found it

bruh

i mean

[drifting quest]

oh my god i have to scroll through every clickbait slop youtube guide

[tight haven]

i guess...

[robust vault]

play her with electric team

[twilit quail]

no

[tight haven]

ok nvm pogs down bad

[drifting quest]

https://giphy.com/gifs/arknights-lasairfhiona-endfield-0mZbwmKx4bhKI4kQ2f

[twilit quail]

but someone did trim rhodan with solo chen

[tranquil burrow]

i don't have the will to build 4 new units

[twilit quail]

while blindfolded

[robust vault]

i have 3 teams u can do it

[twilit quail]

and I guess that's something

[drifting quest]

FIRE VANGUARD CONFIRMED

[tight haven]

LOL

[robust vault]

[twilit quail]

yeah the ember one

[next helm]

I can't trim laev

[tranquil burrow]

idk about blindfolded but ive seen dps fluorite trim and solo perlica trims too

[twilit quail]

🙂

[next helm]

and someone solos on chen

[tranquil burrow]

so at this point nothing surprises me

[next helm]

I should just retire

[twilit quail]

blindfolded is definitely a considerable difficulty modifier

[drifting quest]

why am i getting SEVENTEEN PROTOHEDRONS FOR EIGHTY SANITY

[frozen tide]

what does this mean

[robust vault]

all the sanity costs need to be halved fr

[next helm]

P5 adds a light on your ass

[quasi quarry]

ive tried filtering them with revanced on my phone but the more i add to the list the more that pop up where the fuck do these come from

[tranquil burrow]

i found this random shop in the hub that gives some mats, may as well

[robust vault]

why dont the shop map markers work lol

[tight haven]

p5 lights her ass up

[frozen tide]

🔥

[drifting quest]

i keep forgetting to go find them all and buy them out

there's like 3 of them

[drifting quest]

at least she has one place she can shine in this game

[neat snow]

Yeah the p5 effects are not great lol

[frozen tide]

shes a must have for rhodaghan as he does high dmg output and laev vfx covers his attack indicators

[robust vault]

more than what most other gacha do so whatever tbh

[drifting quest]

dont get me wrong they are cool conceptually, and i like that they exist

the current ones are just a bit undercooked

[robust vault]

yeah lifengs looks stupid imo lol

[quasi quarry]

Hypergryph's biggest mistake with endfield is putting arknights in the title cause now I get these slop channels when im looking for AK content

[tranquil burrow]

I wish these effects were tied to sig weapon instead of P5

[drifting quest]

Sigs have them too

Unless you mean p0 sig unlocks the char one

[tranquil burrow]

Ye, ZZZ does that

[drifting quest]

ZZZ style

Yeah

[outer ermine]

if double crit grind

if u somehow kill in combo

just need someone w free time to actually crit fish

[robust vault]

i wonder how long we'll only need 1 team for in endgame, maybe they will promote vertical investment more?

[twilit quail]

it's like 100x more expensive to make character in this game than original AK

so everyone needs to make money

theyre gonna make you pull

one way or another

[heady pine]

Hopefully not until 1.2 at least

[outer ermine]

i need a qq account or reference fuck

[robust vault]

im skipping all of 1.1 so

need zhuang and mi fu

[tranquil burrow]

I need them all

[robust vault]

i thought tangtang would be a 5* with her design lol

[tranquil burrow]

She's actually going to be comparable to Fangyi in terms of OPness

Supreme Chief of faction A of Wuling vs leader of faction B of Wuling

[robust vault]

lol

do we know anything about mi fu's kit?

[twilit quail]

her brother is going to die and give her omega powerup

[tight haven]

absolutely nothing

[robust vault]

damn

[tight haven]

hg has decided to kill the criminal known as "drip marketing"

[heady pine]

No but her cutscene had her use lightning

That’s about it

[twilit quail]

it has to be big punch right

[robust vault]

i hope she replaces perlica in electric team then

[tranquil burrow]

We know it's some mix of fire/electric probably

[twilit quail]

for gilb value

🙂

[tranquil burrow]

We all on that Gilb potential woman copium

[robust vault]

cause i kinda hate perlicas design but she feels the best to on field rn

[frozen tide]

i dont like khrav max essence look

weird ahh purple glow

[tranquil burrow]

Anything's better than Gilb max essence look

I dare anyone to even remember what that is

[robust vault]

doesnt it just make it look more red

[tranquil burrow]

A thin strip that starts glowing red yeah

[tight haven]

nah its actually pretty noticeable

compared to others at least

[tranquil burrow]

Well I only have 2 maxed essences right now

[tight haven]

it makes the entirety of her lower ba--oh essences

[robust vault]

i only have 2 essences that match 💀 not maxed yet

[twilit quail]

the weapon glow is actually exceptionally bright

[tight haven]

yeah it has lens flare

[twilit quail]

wait I should use my 1 prime refreshes today

to farm money

[tranquil burrow]

34k credits wahoo

[robust vault]

i have 318k rn 😌

[tight haven]

how it feels to be broke as fuck

[tranquil burrow]

i got 432k rn

im so cooked when yvonne comes out, going to be completely broke

[tight haven]

slow-cooking prime rib for a dinner date and lowkey i just realized it takes me like

20 mins

to do all my ef dailies

from deliveries to spending stam to trading/visiting/dijiang stuff

i remember in beta it could take me like an hour

thank god for ziplines

[outer ermine]

been olaying since reset, still havent finished my dailies

did complete kill 20 enemies tho

[tight haven]

its pretty easy to get distracted

[outer ermine]

20 rhodagn

[neat snow]

Im actually good on credits I have almost 2m

[drifting quest]

2 minutes - trading, dijiang, deliveries ( i put them up for others )
3 minutes - stamina spending
10 minutes - FIND THE ROBOTS HAHA WHERE COULD THEY BE

[tight haven]

now raise phys

👍

[twilit quail]

average is6 run

[tranquil burrow]

they need to rework dailies. add the delivery and stock redist and outpost stuff to them since those are actual things we do daily.

[twilit quail]

looks good back to endfield

[neat snow]

My Laev team is full 90 anyway

[tranquil burrow]

log in = 20pts
give gift = 40 pts
assemble one random gear piece = 40 pts

dailies done

idk why people do that daily mission

[neat snow]

For 1k credits

[drifting quest]

because i dont need to give gifts anymore

[bitter cove]

1K TCREDITS wym

[drifting quest]

everyone is 100%

[bitter cove]

its MASSIVE

[tranquil burrow]

farm that 200%

[twilit quail]

why dont you give gilb some more gifts

[tight haven]

dude im in gift poverty

i need reset asap

[tranquil burrow]

and giving a gift takes 3 seconds since you're visiting dijiang anyways

[tight haven]

please bro i wanna read gilbs 200% trust doc

[twilit quail]

ah

splendid

that looks good

[tight haven]

me when i recruit every op in ak in year 20

[tranquil burrow]

is there a keybind for backward char swap

[drifting quest]

IS14 actually has a starting squad that just unlocks your entire roster to play with
but its not that good because it ruins your lamp setup

[rich linden]

I dont get it why cant u artifice gear anywhere :c

[tight haven]

wdym?

cant find the menu?

its under "gear assembly"

third tab from the left

[twilit quail]

dude physical is so fucking sick if only it didnt cost half your organs

[tight haven]

me when the dps is spread

[daring dove]

Am I the only one that flat out refuses to use Ziplines unless forced too? It's really no bother to travel around without them.

[next helm]

I like that more

Fuck stat sticks

[tight haven]

sometimes when im commuting idm just walking around when doing deliveries

the game is just really pretty

but most of the time its more convenient to just use zips

[next helm]

Fuck being efficient in every single thing

[twilit quail]

I hope we get to press more and more buttons

as this game goes on

like unironically if the apm doubles

this game would be so sick

[tight haven]

arknights: endwalker

[next helm]

Going over 14 rivers yes

[drifting quest]

it'll happen as we get vanguard powercreep

[next helm]

zipline

[neat snow]

I haven't set up zip lines...

[twilit quail]

oh wow someone hit a lv60 electric trim on rhod

[tight haven]

impressive

[twilit quail]

holy shit arclight sucks

[tight haven]

LOL

did they use ake

[tranquil burrow]

I was the same but then once I set them up the time saved was too much

[tight haven]

ig that makes sense for an elec trim

[twilit quail]

ooh and a lv60 marble too

[next helm]

its cooked

[twilit quail]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1rbcEzuE1D

yo check this shit out

[next helm]

The chinese are too powerful

[twilit quail]

crossmap ult spear pull is gas

[tight haven]

ake W

[twilit quail]

maybe arclight

loses her spot on the sheet

icl

[tight haven]

okay okay i see you

OKAY

wow that fucking mapwide tech

damn this clear is sick

[next helm]

Maybe I can trim fat guy next patch

if my pc can run this game

[drifting quest]

both should be fine

akekuri is just kinda

her

[tight haven]

that was impressive

[twilit quail]

nah like

arclight here

youre missing so much of like everything

fuck all dmg

yeah what the fuck there's no way arclight is killing here

[tight haven]

society if arclight provided link

[twilit quail]

the 4 stack corrosion

is so sick

[drifting quest]

i mean is it fair to compare l60 versions of chars

[twilit quail]

this character's damage

does not increase with 30 lvls

[tight haven]

i guess the point is that arclight isnt doing anything besides in elec

[twilit quail]

it genuinely doesnt

unless you want to use some dogshit like 12q

[tight haven]

and in elec she isnt even the clear best-choice

[drifting quest]

wnn

[twilit quail]

losing thermite for no reason

[drifting quest]

clueful

[tight haven]

surely

SURELY

fangyi will save arclight

[twilit quail]

the intensity 4 stacked corrosion

extended with second application

hoooooly

[next helm]

You can extend

A 4 buff one?

[drifting quest]

it's what some 40+% elec dmg%, conditional electrification and 'more' sp vs 10% attack and link

[twilit quail]

status level and intensity of first application are preserved

[drifting quest]

if you want to discredit arclight personal damage

actual holder for frontiers too i guess so 16% more

[twilit quail]

ake can frontiers

in electric

with 1 seal

the one team where she actually can

[drifting quest]

is that not going to be like

ult every 3rd ro

t

[twilit quail]

it's synced with avy ult

and that's all you need

arclight has more stagger

and it actually

fucks up the windows

[drifting quest]

does it actually sync

i just cant quite imagine it

[tight haven]

you can see it in the vid

[drifting quest]

i skimmed over the video

caught

[tight haven]

💔

i have no skin in the elec team game but arclight did seem like the most fraud status elec team member

[drowsy wyvern]

wait why are we replacing arclight with akekuri, is ult button really that good?

[twilit quail]

ok but tell me the 4 stacked corrosion is not fucking sick

[tight haven]

link is just a 1.2x on your fat nuke

[drowsy wyvern]

i like my 3s combo cd.......

[twilit quail]

that shit is godlike

[tight haven]

yes yes the 4 stack corro into an extension is some nutty ass tech

[drifting quest]

oh it is like

every 3rd rot

you just dont care

[tight haven]

yuh

[drifting quest]

does it align if you dont get akekuri combo

since marble guarantees ake combo

but other bosses wont

[twilit quail]

there isnt any in the game rn where it doesnt align

I had a conversation about this with a guy who plays it two days ago

this weirdass set is compatible with every fight in the game currently

[drifting quest]

i mean id definitely like to see it versus dorito

rhodagn is rhodagn no one cares

[tight haven]

why does every vanguard sig pretend that vanguards deal damage

except ake's i guess

[daring dove]

I wonder if they hadn't of nerfed Akekuri between beta 2 & live if there'd even be a debate to use any other SP support outside of PHY teams.

[drifting quest]

one of those cases where i'd have to see it to fathom it

[twilit quail]

yeah the guy is saying

he is missing a lot of dmg

with arclight

instead of ake

[tranquil burrow]

closest to official will be viewing their preview versions in game

[twilit quail]

like not nearly enough to kill in two sets

[tight haven]

this is currently the case

ake and pog are the only two vanguards that exist

alesh exists uh

20% of the time

[drifting quest]

ONE MORE FISH

[twilit quail]

cbt akekuri was like an elder god

[drowsy wyvern]

yea alesh is kinda ass ngl

[tight haven]

three hundred sp

[tranquil burrow]

their role explicitly defines them as good dmg dealers

[tight haven]

liedrogen bomb

holy shit official hg misinfo

[drowsy wyvern]

yea sometimes game devs think they're doing something but ingame its different

[tight haven]

wait a second

no it doesnt silly goat

[tacit jacinth]

alrighty, this is just a doubt of mine
essence with triple "potentialization"-type buff exists, but should they exist? like, do they have meta/theorycrafting relevance besides just using to up other essences?

[tranquil burrow]

[tight haven]

currently no theyre useless

just feed them

[tranquil burrow]

so it says subdps wulf will be eventual meta

[drifting quest]

Vanguards have relatively low DP cost which often makes them among the first units to be deployed in an operation and the ability to generate more DP to allow the rest of the squad to be deployed. They typically have decent, well-rounded stats, allowing Vanguards to handle the initial waves of enemies in an operation.

[tacit jacinth]

i love farming

[drowsy wyvern]

myrtel bagpiper bombo when

[rugged vale]

thats my siege is the best vanguard

[daring dove]

Wulf is being retired in the next 2 patches tops I reckon, he's already gotten his bus pass.

[drifting quest]

bagpipe reconvener is about to say start fights with 300sp and break the game

[rugged vale]

myrtle bagpipe in 2026 when agents exist

[twilit quail]

【60级电队镀层90三位一体175秒【终末地】】 https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1L5c4zQE1U/

0:45 onwards

[drifting quest]

the evil aspd down risk

[rugged vale]

just buff her with monst3r of course

[outer ermine]

p5 bagpipe here when

[drifting quest]

makes sense

[twilit quail]

watching him

chase this guy

[drifting quest]

i havent played laev dorito in so long

[twilit quail]

with electric

god

[drifting quest]

i forgot it even had a stagger node

because phys just pumps out infintie stagger anyway

arclight may be a fraud but im still building her

kuranta gaming

the niche i keep wanting to build in arknights and then never doing

although i will be doing it now since we have refunds for building 5*'s thanks to collab

[drowsy wyvern]

idk man arclight combo skill seems so fun to play around

[rugged vale]

need horseknight in endfield

[drifting quest]

1 kuranta

[drowsy wyvern]

too bad i looked at what m3 akekuri ult does

so now im sad

[twilit quail]

oh man here we go again

[drifting quest]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tranquil burrow]

6 additional sp recovery?

[drowsy wyvern]

the fact that it says 80

[drifting quest]

im quitting if we're genuinely on double slab avywenna

[drowsy wyvern]

when most of arclight's skills say 10 at most

from what i remember

[tranquil burrow]

first time seeing someone with a double slab build.

[twilit quail]

the 60 guy is using bonecrusher obviously

[drifting quest]

ok

thank god

[twilit quail]

even if slab was good it would not be at 60

[brave scaffold]

I heard someone said that Last rite is better than Yvonne in the perfect team on single target.
is that true?

[twilit quail]

yvonne + LR is worse than just LR yes

yz knows this and says it himself

he just keeps making videos of it to viewfarm

[drifting quest]

LR Hyper >>> Yvonne Hyper > Yvonne LR

[tranquil burrow]

yz who

[twilit quail]

dealing irreparable damage to many accounts

[tight haven]

theres a lot of people who just want to cope on yvonne

which is fair

its weird that they made such a weak limited op

[brave scaffold]

thankyouu

[drowsy wyvern]

i lost my gil 50/50 to yvonne so you know, happens

[tranquil burrow]

i was hoping that'd happen to me

[drowsy wyvern]

you wanna use the characters you get

[tight haven]

mhm

it does stink that so many people are hell-bent on lying abt how to use her

the yvonne lr team is just... mmm

[drowsy wyvern]

still dont get how you're supposed to use her besides what's written on the sheet pinned here

[tight haven]

ime

she doesnt exist without p1

[drifting quest]

#team-build staple

[tight haven]

p1 is when she starts kind of existing

[twilit quail]

yvonne was at least decently interesting to run calcs and stuff on so you know what

[brave scaffold]

lol

[twilit quail]

she's alright

[drifting quest]

she's not

ok

she is

parseable

i would not say

[bitter cove]

shit embed

[drifting quest]

enjoyable

[twilit quail]

you know what I mean

[drifting quest]

to play

[twilit quail]

she has brought more value to me

[drifting quest]

having used her to clear umbral monument myself

[twilit quail]

than ember

[tight haven]

alright "ON HOLIDAY"

did you know

[twilit quail]

because at least I kind of enjoyed making that part of the sheet

[drowsy wyvern]

ok true, with yvonne you can kinda cope but ember is kinda cheeks no?

[tight haven]

that iana - yes, that iana - mentioned ember in the phys doc

[drifting quest]

oh my god

that team req

so many people

did not read

and think it was a real team

[tight haven]

you can replace lifeng with ember!

[tranquil burrow]

really? just checked it out and it seems nothing special at first glance

maybe some qol at best

[drifting quest]

like 4 people genuinely built it as a real team

thinking it was a good team

[twilit quail]

HAHAHAHA

[tight haven]

the extra ult gen rounds out rotations

[drowsy wyvern]

wait what team

[drifting quest]

laev wulf pog ember

[drowsy wyvern]

that sounds stupid what

[daring dove]

I left this quest to do until later & had forgotten had bad Valley 4 tutorial stuff is.

[drifting quest]

its overworld team

[twilit quail]

IT CANT BE REAL

[warm galleon]

The problem is flourite+wedge deals more ult damage than yvonne+wedge

[west moon]

First time seeing someone using jincao drink

[drowsy wyvern]

oh fair enough i guess

[drifting quest]

laev kills
wulf stacks
pog sprints faster
ember is for when you need a new keyboard because your shift key is broken and you cant dodge

[tranquil burrow]

i didn't even recognize what it was

[tight haven]

since so much of her damage is tied to proper gearing you cant really build for ult gen with yvonne

her damage is just too dogshit by herself + her "best" weapons/partners

[twilit quail]

yvonne is on 0 ult gen to deal any decent damage

[west moon]

but there's rmb

[drifting quest]

im still of the opinion that like

[twilit quail]

and there is 0 room for mistake without p1

[drifting quest]

artzy isnt even her bis for real gameplay right now

[tight haven]

yeah she needs so much fucking help

[twilit quail]

you just

die of cancer

if any ability whiffs

[west moon]

Yvonne is tier 2 rn?

[tight haven]

oh the enemy went a bit too far? gg

[brave scaffold]

how much damage am I loosing out if I just florite instead of Perlica in LR team

[drifting quest]

why would i spend 20k arsenal tokens for a sig that is just worse than wedge if im not lucky

[tight haven]

shes strictly a worse lr

[tranquil burrow]

so it's feast if its bosses like rhodagn and famine if its triaggelos

[drifting quest]

if you want to do tier lists shit

yvonne is like

tier 3

[tight haven]

its famine in both cases

tbh

[tranquil burrow]

rhodagn stands still more or less

i dont see how you whiff on him

[tight haven]

she struggles against any decently mobile enemy

[drifting quest]

you dont crit

lmao

100% cr build

[drowsy wyvern]

yooooooo they made reset simulator in endfield its so sick

[tight haven]

because she NEEDS her rotations to go through properly for her current team's skill uses to line up right and not cause huge time wasteage

this is really easy to get a feel for if you use her

its pretty ugly

[tacit jacinth]

does green/blue/purple essences serve to something in endgame? or just to occupy space lol

[tranquil burrow]

on that note, is gilb's debuff tied to her ground aoe or does it "stick" to the enemy?

[tight haven]

just taking up server space

lol

[daring dove]

Btw what data is version 1.1 expected to release?, should be about 27/28 days from now right?

[tight haven]

tied to the aoe

[tranquil burrow]

cooked

it's so tiny

[west moon]

how tf do you get green and blue essenses?

[tight haven]

if an enemy leaves the aoe the debuff goes away too

yeah

gilberta is kind of mald-heavy

but ime very fun to use

[tacit jacinth]

i think from world

[drifting quest]

i would have had to reset like 10 times if umbral monument wasnt so easy

because of the dumbass

infiltrators

[west moon]

end of the next banner

[drifting quest]

who dodge everything

[west moon]

tangtang and rossi are the next ops

[tranquil burrow]

i think they did that so they can easily release a better gilberta eventually

[tight haven]

the infiltrators shit on yvonne

so hard

[tacit jacinth]

confirmed?

[drifting quest]

it was so miserable

[west moon]

yes

[drifting quest]

thank fuck for gilb

[tacit jacinth]

thxx

[drowsy wyvern]

i went from almost never pressing e button with avy arclight perlica antal to always pressing e button with gil instead of antal, its so sick

[tight haven]

yeah im sure they will

LOL

i wish her ult aoe was bigger

should have been on her p1

or just base kit tbh

i get its a big big debuff but man

[daring dove]

An the outluck for Yvonne is still complete waste of time right, even with Last Rite?

[twilit quail]

I mean a lot of these things in any other game would be called "cringe developer locking basic things behind dupes"

same with lifeng p1

[tranquil burrow]

actually nvm i just remembered it's antal

[tight haven]

lmao yea

[tranquil burrow]

his debuff sticks

[tight haven]

dude

lifeng p1

is EVIL

holy shit why did they do that

[drifting quest]

adding last rite is bricking her further

[tight haven]

it ended up not mattering much in the long run since for now lifeng starter is always correct in phys at least

[tranquil burrow]

everyone and their mother says dupes in this game are whatever and the recent survey sure seemed to be insistent on knowing why we not going for potentials

[twilit quail]

the biggest functional benefit of lifeng p1 is like

maybe being able to fit his combo into endmin crystals sometimes

[tight haven]

if we ever get a better phys starter then

hmmmmmm

[twilit quail]

and, well, it isnt nothing

and so we have more team order shenanigans

fucking

chen endmin pog lifeng

like

?

what is this man

[drifting quest]

can physical calm down man

[tacit jacinth]

p1 lifeng its useful if you have a sib that you put to play for ya lol

[drifting quest]

i dont want to learn MORE stuff

[tranquil burrow]

learn nothing like me then

idk the first thing about phys

[drowsy wyvern]

same

[tranquil burrow]

i hope pog stays relevant for long though

i like his aura

[tacit jacinth]

he seems likely to stay relevant for more than the rest

but thats just my opinion

[lime bear]

it's gonna be a while for Physical VG powercreep

[wide latch]

whats laevs bis team?

[lime bear]

we prob will soon see more reliable Vuln applicator other than Chen maybe

[drifting quest]

it depends ™

[lime bear]

with some sustain for bonus trust

[wide latch]

on what?

[tacit jacinth]

it will be ch'en, the devs just sent me a dm

[bitter cove]

i just realized iana actually add the note about that incident and double slab on lae

[drifting quest]

akekuri wulfgard ardelia is the baseline
antal can be swapped in over akekuri or ardelia
gilberta can be swapped in over ardelia

there's also some whack ass tech with some other units but its not typically good

gilberta requires knowing what you're doing in sgt

antal sucks outside of sgt

[tight haven]

laev wulf then you can pick from ardelia or gilberta (do not chase gilberta for laev), and akekuri or antal (akekuri for gameplay smoothness, antal for speedrunning high-end content)

[lime bear]

just say st for single target lmfao

[tranquil burrow]

i read it as sergeant

[lime bear]

noone shortens it as sgt 💔

[tight haven]

my preferred team is laev wulf ake gilb

[lime bear]

right

I was like wtf is sergeant

[tacit jacinth]

i read as signature

[lime bear]

[drifting quest]

ive been using sgt for too long

st doesnt look right

real old school tc know where its at

[wide latch]

ardelia for sustain/gil for multiple enemies got it
antal for big pp damage?

[lime bear]

Rossi save the heat team

[tranquil burrow]

heat team is doing quite fine all things considered

[lime bear]

imagine she replaces Ard instead

[tranquil burrow]

rossi is the furthest thing from a support unit

she's 99% a vanguard

[bitter cove]

i think rossi will replace laev on laev team

[tacit jacinth]

lmao, would be funny

[tranquil burrow]

subdps wulf becomes main dps wulf, rossi still vanguard

clannibal time to shine

[lime bear]

I hope she'll have good damage share

[midnight stirrup]

Not too much on my goat

[lime bear]

I'm tempted to buy Clan cuz I like Wulf, but I don't even have enough of it lmfao

[drowsy wyvern]

where does mi fu fit in all this heat nonsense then (she looks heat to me)

[supple epoch]

Wouldn’t be the first time

Klee then hutao

😒

[daring dove]

Why do people seem to think the devs will replace the character 80% of people pulled on launch rather than adding to said characters team? It's like we're trying to speedrun EoS.

[lime bear]

seems electric tbh

[midnight stirrup]

How is heat what u got from Mi Fu

[drowsy wyvern]

red

[midnight stirrup]

Literally nothing in her cutscene showed fire

[drowsy wyvern]

pink

[tranquil burrow]

some people c/hope she's electric burst who'll do a big slam that somehow makes perfect use of gilberta

[supple epoch]

Genshin did it

With Klee

[midnight stirrup]

She uses electric gauntlets

[lime bear]

I hope she isn't as important cuz Fangyi Arclight Perlicka Ard should work somehow

[midnight stirrup]

[supple epoch]

EoS immediately obviously

[drifting quest]

she sets her gauntlets on fire using electricity

[supple epoch]

Rip genshin

[lime bear]

Arclight is unlikely to get replaced this quick 🥹

[midnight stirrup]

Huh never noticed that

[drowsy wyvern]

dual element character 🔥

[tranquil burrow]

tbf early genshin gacha game design wasn't that well "planned"

[daring dove]

Yeah, An Genshin was backwards as hell in the early years no need to repeat that stupidity.

[lime bear]

inb4 Ember V2

[midnight stirrup]

Oh

[drifting quest]

hence it's likely she's either fire but applies electrification or she's electric but applies combustion

[supple epoch]

Genshin repeated it with arlecchino and mavuika 🤣

[tranquil burrow]

xiranite tech looks blocky as hell

[drowsy wyvern]

ngl i didnt notice the lightning sparks

[bitter cove]

i think the entire genshin is not well planned

[midnight stirrup]

Fair enough

[lime bear]

tbh full 4 mono for arts unlikely to work cuz for arts reaction you need at least 2

[drifting quest]

arts reactions kinda mid anyway

[bitter cove]

they dont even know what to do about the game anymore

[tranquil burrow]

well if something's lasted this long there's bound to be some yolo decisions in there

[bitter cove]

gameplay hasnt evolved for years

[wide latch]

what rotation does laev/wulfgard/antal/ardelia use

[drifting quest]

it depends ™

[sullen depot]

Any tips on how to time the opener with this team? I keep accidentally turning heat stacks into corrosion by mistiming Gilb BS

[drifting quest]

there's like

5? 6?

rotations

[west moon]

maybe seven

[drifting quest]

there's like more

[twilit quail]

simply intuit it

[west moon]

i just press random buttons in lava team, ends up working anyway

[daring dove]

Yep another complete blunder, that really annoyed a chunk of the playerbase. Doing stupid things repeatedly isn't a way to encourage player retention Genshin's started to pay the price for that.

[drowsy wyvern]

this game is pretty free form ngl

[tranquil burrow]

that's what i do, mostly because i haven't found any rotation except people talking about their existence

[drowsy wyvern]

you can just slap random shit together and as long as there's a semblance of synergy, it works

[drifting quest]

3 laev builds that impact rot
2 wulf builds that impact rot
also 2 wulf potential differences which further impact rot

[wide latch]

cause im struggling and idk if its build or skill issue

[drifting quest]

so like 12?

minimum

[twilit quail]

I made graphics but I dont know if people have looked at them

[west moon]

Shall I etch further or this is enough?

[tranquil burrow]

if they're not pinned they're lost to the void

[drowsy wyvern]

if youre asking if someone read/saw something, then answer is no

[supple epoch]

It won’t really evolve Till they switch to a new custom engine which apparently is coming sometime after they drop ps4 compatibility and low to mid tier mobile. They are doing that in April so

Maybe 7.x

[tranquil burrow]

huh, first time im hearing they're switching engine

[supple epoch]

Genshins doing pretty pretty well I’d say xD

[supple epoch]

It was in the L***S that came out around the same time as the announcement to drop ps4

[wide latch]

laev sig, hot work 3p
wulfgard p4, hot work 3p, rational farewell

im too poor for 6* potentials

[drifting quest]

what 4th on laev

[tranquil burrow]

tbh i didnt even know they're dropping ps4. game looks like a ps2 game anyways, why drop ps4

[drowsy wyvern]

thats cap

[supple epoch]

They gave us liek a 8 month warning or something lol

[daring dove]

Genshin's community it way smaller than it used to be, look at how many views all their recent trailers are getting compared to their order ones that had far less quality. They're like 10% of the views.

[west moon]

I like this spreadsheet

[supple epoch]

Same reason ff14 dropped ps3 and will drop ps4

[daring dove]

I remember early Genshin community it was vastly larger.

[supple epoch]

Upscale the game and do more interesting things

[west moon]

Well, genshin aged like milk

[tranquil burrow]

this is standing behind the walls he summons while he does his explosion

[bitter cove]

my early game were using LR and i can assure u, that progression rating is very much true

[supple epoch]

I’ve been around since pre launch tc era. Genshin community is larger then ever. Just the format has changed

[bitter cove]

what a miserable experience

[tight haven]

i think its more accurate to say genshin's communities have kinda like

migrated off the internet almost?

[supple epoch]

The old communities alienated everyoen with their various rather serious dramas and red tape attitudes

[tight haven]

like genshin is just a game my coworkers play now

[west moon]

I was progressing on bunny wife and bird wife

[tight haven]

and some of them are in their 50s lol

[west moon]

peak

[supple epoch]

The casual social media spaces are popping

The more serious spaces are declining

[tight haven]

yeah

[supple epoch]

And for good reason lol

[tight haven]

its just not very mechanically interesting is what ive gotten

[supple epoch]

Drammmmma lol

[tight haven]

not much thought needs to be committed to doing shit in it

[drowsy wyvern]

can vouch for this

[supple epoch]

The games more or less been solved for years anyway

So less need for tc stuff

[drowsy wyvern]

its not even the fact that its solved, chess is a solved game and its still fun

[tight haven]

dgmw endfield is not particularly interesting either but it has a very charming progression system. kind of. and a very fun gearing system

[drowsy wyvern]

genshin is just shallow

[supple epoch]

Even the content creators had huge drama lol

[tight haven]

yea

[supple epoch]

Enfield is genshin similar

Tho I think the reaction system feels worse at the moment

[tight haven]

my take on elements was that endfield should lock in and just make more elements

more reactions

do cool stuff

[drowsy wyvern]

idk if its just the novelty but i disagree

[tight haven]

dont feel limited to the existing structure

[west moon]

How this team is played?

[frozen tide]

not

[bitter cove]

just like pgr

[tight haven]

yea kinda like pgr

i uh

[drowsy wyvern]

to be fair enemies in genshin either sit still invuln for 30s straight or do nothing, meanwhile endfield enemies actually do something in comparison

[daring dove]

Naw, I remember the same discords back in the early days they where way more active.

[tight haven]

okay i dont HATE nihil teams

[twilit quail]

I mean they just need to start pumping multi element stuff at least and start getting crazy

[tight haven]

but i still dont think nihil frames are very interesting in pgr

[supple epoch]

And then what happened in those discords 🤣

[tight haven]

this works too. like please dont force everything to become mono-element hypercarry slop

we do not need 5 laevatains

[supple epoch]

Discord servers with drama so bad the police should’ve been involved lol. Definitely rallying the masses with that.

[neat snow]

Speak for yourself..

[daring dove]

Less people started caring, because other games released an they stopped trying to raise quality in a meaningful manner. Don't get me wrong I'm sure Genshin will eventually get the overhaul it eventually needs but it's definitely in a low period right now. Although Natlan was worse.

[bitter cove]

they kinda like
booo depression kinda theme
i honestly meant toward affix team more rather than the new element
theyre not afraid to make new mechanic and making more team option

[supple epoch]

Low period in maybe your anecdotal experience lol. Genshins making bank and has incredibly high and steady impressions on the internet

Despite its age

[west moon]

What's the team for wulfgard main dps?

[drifting quest]

perlica antal gilb prob

[tight haven]

oh yea affixes r cool

[amber vapor]

Wulfgard, antal, perlica and a flex

[west moon]

Ig ardelia fits

[tranquil burrow]

lavacake to raise the team's dmg

[tight haven]

pgr is definitionally rotationslop in the common parlance but fuck if it aint FUN

the new rosetta frame is so sick

[twilit quail]

I mean I

[amber vapor]

Yeah

[twilit quail]

ok no I shouldnt comment on this

[tight haven]

well now im curious...

[drowsy wyvern]

i mean arent all action gachas just rotation slop?

[amber vapor]

Pyre Lucia...

[tight haven]

its the most rotationslop you can get

[daring dove]

Where are we getting Genshin's revenue from? Pretty much most of it is made up from mobile revenue sites. I have no doubt Hoyo is doing well, but in terms of commuinity engagement they're at an all time low. That should be obvious.

[west moon]

What's up with that noire game?

[tight haven]

do shit, swap, do shit, swap, do shit, swap

[amber vapor]

The got tired of the orb system so they made it obselete

[bitter cove]

it is fun, i just burn out coz it kinda demanded to be competitive since ur progression tied to it
i could be playing casually but man my ego doesnt allow it

[tight haven]

i did like this

[tranquil burrow]

limbus company

[amber vapor]

Silver Palace?

[tight haven]

it just served to make the gameplay feel smoother

[west moon]

Ig?

[frozen tide]

best you can look at is their government income reports

[drowsy wyvern]

notice how i said action and how limbus company is not an action game

[tight haven]

yea pgr's one downside is that it is very explicitly p2w

lmao

[amber vapor]

It had a closed test recently and it seemed nice but still very early in dev

[tranquil burrow]

speak for yourself, it has plenty of action

[frozen root]

mirror dungeon slop

[supple epoch]

Unless there’s another Sony leak

[amber vapor]

But but but you can do the two weeklies and get a dupe!!!

[west moon]

The character design is pretty good there too

[supple epoch]

But sony also does revenue awards and they made a special one for genshin lmao

[amber vapor]

Gachas are here to stay in the market

[frozen tide]

i was thinking of playing but nvm

[supple epoch]

Yep

[tranquil burrow]

2nd gacha game with very detailed and pretty eyes (first being this one)

[amber vapor]

But you have games like Ananta and that other one that have pivoted to cosmetics

[supple epoch]

Ake launch period is very genshin adjacent earnings wise

[twilit quail]

pgr is on a model where it is very easy to get everyone

but you are just like assigned a bracket

[supple epoch]

Makes me wonder if the reaction game play is just really popular

[twilit quail]

depending on how much you spend

[tight haven]

yea

[tranquil burrow]

at least ananta pivoted early unlike dna...

[twilit quail]

it operates on a 60 pulls per copy rule

[tight haven]

whales are always beating up other whales for the best rewards

[twilit quail]

you can very easily and consistently get every character you just have to be content with your lot so to speak

[amber vapor]

Yeah I was a DNA beta tester and the pivot was not surprising but too little too late

[tight haven]

sometimes your bracket has a lazy whale in it and they just roll you for top spot in war zone (but this doesnt really matter)

[bitter cove]

the thing i like about pgr is u can pull every single new S-rank
its just that nowsday, u inclined to go more than that since the next dupe making it way easier to get score in which can make it easier to beat those filthy f2ps
but now u had to fight those low spender too

[tight haven]

yep

and getting older frames is a pain

i stopped playing for a while around nanamis patch so shes STILL ss3 to this day

[tranquil burrow]

DNA story was so phenomenal at launch too, and then I look at Endfield's story and people saying 1.0 story is always bad lel

[twilit quail]

because you can get every char consistently every character they release has a curated spot in the game state

[tranquil burrow]

Rip game, probably won't last long with the way things are going

[amber vapor]

NTE though is the gacha-like that went non-gacha that currently has drops for a play test key

[tranquil burrow]

NTE is fully gacha

[frozen tide]

whats dna

[tight haven]

to be more pointed about it, every new frame powercreeps an older frame in pgr

[tranquil burrow]

Duet Night Abyss

[twilit quail]

the pgr model is just not really comparable in general

[tight haven]

directly

[frozen tide]

ah

[amber vapor]

I thought it was gacha less now?

[twilit quail]

I stopped playing cause it was just too much work

[tranquil burrow]

That's Ananta

[amber vapor]

Duet Night Abyss, pretty much anime Warframe

[twilit quail]

fighting with the same like 10 people on 50 different accounts for leaderboard every reset

[tight haven]

looooooool

[tranquil burrow]

but worse except the story which was unexpectedly good

[tight haven]

im comfy just flip-flopping between hero and legend wz

[bitter cove]

i was fun at first
the more i played it the more i feel like its a chore i need to do otherwise ill get behind others
so i just stop

[tight haven]

i like sss-ing every new frame and having fun that way, not in it to top every lb

[twilit quail]

I loved everything about the game other than the time investment necessary

[tight haven]

completely understandable

[twilit quail]

but it's not like I could just take a step back

[tight haven]

its a cruel mistress at times

[twilit quail]

and stop playing for LB

it's just not how it works

[tight haven]

yea if you stop youre kinda cooked

lol

[amber vapor]

I thought I heard NTE was going gacha less, I guess I heard wrong. Either way don't care coz why would I want a wannabe GTA game when GTA 6 is coming out this year

[shut cobalt]

i see wulf has a charge req, but what about ake's charge req?

[river scroll]

no gacha is minus point from me. believe it or not

[twilit quail]

I think before I quit I had a grand total of

[supple epoch]

I expect DNa to follow the warframe cycle and get much better later and surprise ppl by not dying 🤣 but still feeling liek a massive chore

[twilit quail]

10 top 1 placements on CN

[tight haven]

damn

[twilit quail]

and I was just like

yeah no

it's time to move on

[drifting quest]

both she and wulf have like 10 of them

the more ult gain the better because the more of the rots you can access

[twilit quail]

I do think back on the game fondly though

[bitter cove]

i was talking about pgr, i dont play dna
its understandable that u get mixed up here since i dont use reply function

[twilit quail]

and I still check back on it often

[tranquil burrow]

NTE is not GTA-like, that's Ananta. NTE is fully gacha with all the usual gacha garbage (it even has stamina for city activities...). Just think of it like a new open world gacha set in a city instead of some fantasy land this time around.

[supple epoch]

I skipped pgr cuz wasn’t on console or something

[shut cobalt]

so just artifice + get weapon charge to as much as u can on both and call it a day?

[twilit quail]

it actually has been the source of a lot of design inspiration for OCs and stuff

and it has been nice to have that part of my life

[tight haven]

245% for 1 cskill and 6 bskills

[twilit quail]

live on in that way

[tight haven]

akekuri "breakpoints" like

[amber vapor]

The game is made in Unity and runs on a potato phone so

[drifting quest]

if you're fine with the investment(s) then yes

[supple epoch]

I thought nte was the gta game too 😩

[tight haven]

are just so team-dependent

youre only popping her ult for the link most of the time, not to regen sp

so as long as its lining up with your laevs ebskill or whatever its fine

[twilit quail]

it's funny cause electric is the only team super ultra jamming with this char

even more than their electric vg

[tight haven]

arclight moment

[shut cobalt]

isnt there like breakpoints to be reached tho?

[amber vapor]

I played PGR at launch but didn't like the art style and how mashy and flashy gameplay felt

Then tried Aether Gazer and enjoyed the all on field thing

[tranquil burrow]

I heard PGR is the only game that's actively worse on PC than mobile

[drifting quest]

yes but again there's like 10 of them and just slapping the gear on with no artificing, thermite cutter/obj hits 1

[amber vapor]

Glad Endfield decided to do all on field too

[tight haven]

dna's biggest problem is the devs being like actually slow in the head

[twilit quail]

aether gazer had nice ideas but some of their gameplay design 🙂

[tight haven]

either that or theyre being held at gunpoint by their publisher

[twilit quail]

the evil fucking

TURRET CHARACTER

in an ACTION GAME

[tight haven]

the newest update was basically a QoL patch with some new wedges that take 100 hours to farm

[twilit quail]

i cant believe it man

[tight haven]

wowie

[amber vapor]

The god eater collab was pretty cool

[shut cobalt]

oh, i c
what about the best breakpoint for laev team then? (if theres one) assuming wulf, ake and ardelia as teammates ofc

[tranquil burrow]

I hope so, the story they built runs circles around most other gacha stories. I'd like to revisit that some day.

[amber vapor]

I like that you actually had to chain combos and not mash

[tight haven]

and the QoL was very middling and didnt address even half the big complaints from the playerbase

[west moon]

the only people who know about warframe are the people who play it

tbh

[tight haven]

(some of these being technical in nature, like controller support being broken on mobile since launch)

[west moon]

crazy grindfest

[drifting quest]

there's no strict best one, depending on your rotation you can see what the breakpoint is, depends on number of combo skills accessible too which differs per boss

[west moon]

Warframe is what every gacha strives to be, minus revenue

[tight haven]

dna is not wf

dna is gbf

but 3d

[drifting quest]

hence why the more you go in the more comfortable it gets due to more breakpoints covered

[tight haven]

its an afk grind game

im sure they'll introduce guilds soon

and guild wars

[amber vapor]

The funny thing is between CBT1 and CBT2 they went from making the grind easier to a lot worse and then in the final CBT that was NDA right before release I think they were just running performance checks.

[tight haven]

lol

[shut cobalt]

i c, so once i finish laev up (i assume only until combo skill m3 since i dont think basic m3 is worth)
i go for those breakpoints on both?

[tight haven]

and the game was still bugged to fuck

still is

[amber vapor]

I played CBT2 and stopped playing once I saw how it would take a whole week of grinding to get a single gold wedge

[drifting quest]

combo m3 is premium
basic m3 is for simps

[amber vapor]

They didn't change anything on release

[tight haven]

yea the gameplay loop is still the exact same 3 months on

nothings changed

[frozen tide]

prydwen adjusted yvonne to t1

[tranquil burrow]

Gacha can never have Warframe's growth. This genre has far too much fomo, so their strategy is to retain existing players as best as they can instead of obtaining new ones over time. basically make people reluctant to quit over sunk cost fallacy.

[frozen tide]

gg

[amber vapor]

Other than the change from gacha to gacha-less that was half assed because they still had the skeleton of a gacha system

[tight haven]

W

[frozen tide]

yvonne stonks crashed

her character got nerfed in the last 3 days

[tight haven]

did you see the new mount

[frozen tide]

apparantly

[shut cobalt]

got it, one more thing
does using combo skills on laev ult stop the timer for the time ur locked in without being able to do anything else or the time keeps on going regardless if ur locked or not?

[amber vapor]

No I played DNA release and got to endgame in 2 days and then quit

[tranquil burrow]

this is quite old btw

[amber vapor]

Nothing changed from the boring endgame loop

Like zero progression

[tight haven]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DuetNightAbyssDNA/comments/1r0qc9a/the_700_buck_mount/

[amber vapor]

At least in Endfield the endgame progression rn is trims

[drifting quest]

combo i never paid attention to, should test yourself or have someone else comment

[tight haven]

👍

[tranquil burrow]

I tried DNA for Warframe but anime waifus but the story blew me away, but still quit cuz the actual grind got boring

[shut cobalt]

got it, thanks thats all

[tight haven]

bro thinks theyre wwm

[tight haven]

this is legit where all my friends who played dna ended up

[amber vapor]

Funniest thing is. That character, Zhiliu, was the most broken character in beta because you could afk farm a stage in 20 seconds with her

[tight haven]

everything about the game ranged from just okay to pretty good... until they realized 90% of their gameplay time would be afking the same thing for hundreds of hours

[tight haven]

rhythm ended up being this and zhiliu (that character) is one of her best partners

and her ai is great

[amber vapor]

DNA is kinda doing what Endfield is doing rn where all the content being released has been there since the beta tests

[tight haven]

so she can just afk farm to level cap now

[amber vapor]

Yeah the combo in beta was Liushu + Zhiliu for perma sanity regen and DMG amp

[tight haven]

its a game that feels like even the devs arent particularly interested in the gameplay

[tight haven]

ohhh you mean fushu

i was like "liushu?"

[amber vapor]

Yeah sorry fushu

[tight haven]

fushu didnt get changed yea

shes still literally infinite sanity

[amber vapor]

Chinese names got me fucked up icl

[tight haven]

lmao its good

rhythm zhiliu fushu just afks everything in the game

its very silly

[amber vapor]

Yeah nothing changed from the beta

As is with Endfield it seems

[tight haven]

they really have to do a balance patch if they want the game to ever be fun ever again

[amber vapor]

Like I said it's all prebaked content

[tight haven]

mhm

apparently 1.3 will be the first "real" patch

[amber vapor]

In DNA's case tho they're huffing a shit ton of copium while they crash and burn