theorycrafting

[lime mortar]

Is Wulfgard worth maxing out lv90 and farming essence for his 6* weapon?

[drifting quest]

no

his damage share is like

5%

[lime mortar]

[drifting quest]

10-15% if we're being generous

[lime mortar]

Thank god I asked before I go all out

[drifting quest]

its why his bis build right now doesnt even use clannibal half the time

[lime mortar]

I guess I will max out Last Rite after Lae

Or is there anyone from Lae taam worth maxing out?

[drifting quest]

anyone who isnt laev gets parked at 60

some might like extra levels for masteries but its not required now or anytime soon

[rare zodiac]

wulf is best for infliction, where my ice wulf hypergryph

[rich fox]

What attack value is good for laev right now?

[naive urchin]

What's the best use for an ocean of mountain dew.

[rare zodiac]

or heat LR i will take that too

[visual sand]

Fun fact, logos essentially is confirmed to be in endfield due to the fact he has oripathy and he is from the banshee race tha life 200 to 700 years old

[drifting quest]

technically yes realistically no

[visual sand]

Either he is dead or a 30s years old looking dude

[rare zodiac]

that is assuming he not ded from otherthing than old age

[visual sand]

Cancer or old age which is it boys, which one will catch up first

[drifting quest]

it requires warfie being able to find them within the assimilated universe, them assumedly being willing to be brought out of it and then them deciding to stay with RI/join EFI
if he didnt die then it requires him having joined the Talos II expedition team which is less likely

[civic wolf]

is Gilberta's alternate dash slower even if you do long marathon runs LMAO

[visual sand]

True, this fact is similar to Wisadel case but her i believe she will kick the bucket and be in endfield as a reconvener, by the way whose that talulah looking woman we saw during the end of chapter 1?

[drifting quest]

Lycia

[visual sand]

Hmm, outfit wise land breaker seems

[civic wolf]

oh

monophys guide got deprecated

rip my pog ult gain artifice

unlucky

[drifting quest]

check the new version

[civic wolf]

yeah the new version doesnt involve those artificed ult gains

[visual sand]

One last thing, why is it that most people say amiya wont be in endfield? She got oripathy doesnt she?

Is it like the matter of letting the dead stays dead

[twilit quail]

if you are playing endmin you only need 1 piece of charge really

[civic wolf]

pog not ending up with xiranite is surprising tho

[twilit quail]

it sucks

he cant activate it

the only thing he can use from it is 1k hp

which also does nothing

[civic wolf]

yeah but i meant moreso in a sense of amplifying his ult gain

because his kit is entirely on ult for maximum SP spam so i thought he'd go all in on ult gain

[twilit quail]

he only needs to ult once per rotation

why go full ult charge when we can have intensity

and still give morale buff to the right chars

unfortunately endmin is stinky

and cant get more than 1 stack

[shut cobalt]

uhh, which is best?
asking here cuz its probably rates

[drifting quest]

protocol space

[shut cobalt]

for every mat of these i assume?

[drifting quest]

yes

[shut cobalt]

alr, thanks

[atomic kraken]

how the energy system in this game works cause its not explained very well in the game

[hollow pine]

I maxed him up with battle skill DMG set. He does like 80k+ bursts

[drifting quest]

ultimate energy?
sp?
stamina/sanity?

[atomic kraken]

ultimate energy mb

[drifting quest]

certain sources give a certain amount of energy
e.g. all units get 6.5 energy per real 100 sp spent
the unit who does a combo skill gets 10 energy

the exceptions are last rite who cannot get energy from allies, and arclight who only gets 5sp per combo

some skills give extra energy, like laevatein who gets 100 extra from her enhanced skill

each ult has cost, get to that cost and get ult

[valid zealot]

6.5 to whole team per 100 sp consumed .
10 per combo

[drifting quest]

real sp

important distinction

[valid zealot]

I believe fake sp is self-explanatory.

[drifting quest]

you'd think so

but it really isnt explained

[atomic kraken]

what is sp

oh skill point

[valid zealot]

[woeful plume]

is umbral monument out on reset

[valid zealot]

Let me rewire my memory a little.

[atomic kraken]

so when you get 100% ultimate gain eff i guess the number become 13 per sp ?

or is it work like that?

[drifting quest]

ultimate gain effect multiplies the values incoming

not the values outgoing

[atomic kraken]

how do i calculate that

[hollow pine]

what team do you play?

[atomic kraken]

its lae,gilberta/adre,wulf and akekuri

[drifting quest]

(([A]x6.5)+[B])x([C]/100)=SP Generated per rot
[A] = Number of skills done by team in rotation
[B] = Number of combos done by unit you want to calc for in rotation
[C] = Ultimate Gain Effect

If you instead wanted to calculate the Ult Gain needed for 1 ult every rot, or one every other rot, or whatever you just rearrange

you'll have to tweak as needed for chars which gain more energy

[atomic kraken]

huh

so its not per individual calculation but rather team?

[drifting quest]

the number of skills and combos a character does differs by team

but the ult gain is per char

[atomic kraken]

wth

[lofty frigate]

i read through iana's new phys page
a bit confused rn, is it really worth doing endmin's ult without link and probably before the enemy is staggered?

[valid zealot]

This is correct btw.

[lime bear]

12PM UTC+8 for Asia

[atomic kraken]

i cant take you seriously with that emote bruh

[valid zealot]

Just a habit.

[lime bear]

for me it's like 11 hours after reset

[atomic kraken]

but it still divided by 100

like shou said

so you need like 200% eff

[twilit quail]

there is a reason I put both 3/4 and 3/3 in there

sometimes one is better

sometimes the other is better

[hollow pine]

normal battle skill - 6.5
combo skill - 25
enhanced battle skill (4 stacks) -100 energy

you need 300 energy for lae ult

per character calc

[drifting quest]

base is 100

[valid zealot]

Time to arti 2nd Endmin set of gear.

[summer flower]

Why?

Which was first one?

[valid zealot]

I'm insane and aethertech intensity stack.

[brisk pecan]

👀

i did think intensity but was told swordmancer/bonekrusha was better

pls share results 🙏

[unreal light]

Hey so!

Stacking 4 nature statuses on an enemy

Does it count towards the consumption of the status?

[drifting quest]

consuming a status only happens when a reaction occurs or a unit specifies they consume infliction

e.g. Yvonne skill consumes inflictions

Ardelia skill consumes corrosion, the reaction causes by nature infliction

reactions are not inflictions, inflictions are not reactions

[unreal light]

That’s for sure

[valid zealot]

You, me, we not seeing it anytime soon.

[unreal light]

I just was fooled by the status stacks description

I believe it says like stacking 4 nature statuses

[valid zealot]

My aether set is 26 artificed

[unreal light]

Creates a big blow on enemy

And for some reason I suspected that blow to consume the nature stacks

[drifting quest]

there is a thing called arts burst, which is when you stack a second infliction

[unreal light]

Yeah I understand that

Arts burst does not count towards the consumption too, right?

[valid zealot]

Does art burst consume anything

[unreal light]

I dunno, thus I come to ask

[midnight stirrup]

No

Its just one stack plus one stack of the same type iirc

[valid zealot]

Then no.

[unreal light]

So all the weapons that activate when stacks are consumed ain’t gonna work, correct?

[valid zealot]

Should be.

[supple tartan]

What is mathematically better for food buff.
Big Damg%/Big atk % or the crit rate damg atk % small

[valid zealot]

Ginseng.

[drifting quest]

on average, for most people it's ginseng

for some jakubs may perform better, or a non attack buffing food

[cinder oxide]

Bro smth is wrong with me it’s 2am soon but my head is just running through the phys rotation tryna optimise it in my head. I’m wondering how to get to 3 stacks of skills and ults on Da Pan on the second cycle since the optimal rotation does not use his skill or ult until cycle 2. Head hurty.

I’m starting to think starting with all ults up is a waste of time

[supple tartan]

By ginseng you mean forty infusion crit and atk?

[cinder oxide]

There’s a ginseng plant u can farm

[supple tartan]

Yeah

[cinder oxide]

It creates a food item that gives flat atk and crit

[supple tartan]

But like the recipe is called _____

[cinder oxide]

Stew

Ginseng stew

[supple tartan]

Thank you

There were two so I wasnt sure and flat atk seemed ick

[cinder oxide]

You alt between Ginseng and Jakub depending on character

If u ur chara has atk boost % on wp use Ginseng

Otherwise Jakub scales better

[drifting quest]

this isnt like hoyo games
the flat attack can recieve benefits from stat attack%

[supple tartan]

Ahhh

[cinder oxide]

Flat attack applies directly to the same formula as wp atk

Its additive to it then multiplicative with the substat boosts then any other dmg boost

End state both get u close to the same results entire contigent on your existing dmg mults

Going from 40% to 67% from existing atk boost is not as good as 0% to 27% when no atk boost when using Jakub

Hence in those cases Ginseng scales better

[quaint matrix]

What is this?

[cinder oxide]

Swordmancer set

[valid zealot]

What is "this"

[quaint matrix]

nah i mean this

[cinder oxide]

Use Google TL

[quaint matrix]

the only cn thing on timeline

[cinder oxide]

TL says ‘heavy blow’

Not sure what it refers to

[quaint matrix]

yeah this helps a lot

[valid zealot]

Final strike

[unreal light]

Perchance burst?

[unreal light]

Ahhhh

[twilit quail]

it's just fs

I forgot to manually replace it for that one

and cba to remake it

[summer flower]

Flat attack from where?

[cinder oxide]

Ginseng stew food item

[summer flower]

Also isn't it best to translate each character by itself for short terms?

Or would it not work correctly

Ohh food

[potent hornet]

alrighty i gotta gear up my supporting players for last right, is there a pin somewhere for proper gear for perl, xai, and ardelia

found it

[supple tartan]

Im sorry. Perl?

[potent hornet]

Perlica

[supple tartan]

Ik who you meant

[potent hornet]

then i don't understand your question on it

[supple tartan]

Why perl in a last rite team

[drifting quest]

see pins

[potent hornet]

i mean she is listed everywhere for a last right team

so i used her

[valid zealot]

Electrification.

And art unit holder ig.

Xaihi can't use stanza.

[acoustic pelican]

Any consensus on eternal xiranite vs no set redeemers on P0 Laevatain for ult gain? Is the minuscule ult gain difference worth dropping the set bonus?

[remote elk]

im guessing you can only use 1 food buff at a time?

[valid zealot]

Yes

[valid zealot]

It's not minuscule and it's worth.

[supple tartan]

Well yeah definitely chiva on xaihi

[drifting quest]

you can technically get away with just 1 redeemer seal but you get more attack off redeemer seal anyway

[raw spruce]

can someone tell me if there is a difference to have a purple essence instead of a golden one ? If i max this one does i have the same stats as a golden essence ?

[drifting quest]

14 extra int = 7% atk
versus 27 str which is 5.4% atk

[drifting quest]

lower max

[drifting berry]

You can't upgrade purple essences

[valid zealot]

Can you etch purple even

[acoustic pelican]

Thanks for the answers! No set redeemers it is then.

[drifting quest]

that too

[valid zealot]

P sure he noted to only use the set when artificed.

[raw spruce]

Thanks a lot all !

[lofty frigate]

how fast should i be able to kill rhodagn with endmin chen pog and lifeng? i tried the rotation in the doc but the fat man wastes some breach time so i had to adjust it a little and use lifeng's ult during the second sub-cycle instead getting like 70s right now with kunst tube on endmin

does anyone have a speedrun video or something? i'd like to try doing it faster

[twilit quail]

【【终末地】最最终极版本的434轴-哔哩哔哩】 https://vxb23.tv/Mj8NNSW

you can reference this for how to adjust it to him in particular

[lofty frigate]

oo ok

ty

[digital scroll]

wait pog doesnt need artificing anymore?

or the new phys page just doesnt display artificing

[twilit quail]

only one that needs artificed charge rate is his set for da pan

others can all meet req with none

[digital scroll]

rip my artificed hands

[twilit quail]

if you did charge rate

[digital scroll]

guess they will be useful on someone else

[twilit quail]

there's like 100 others who can use it

yeah

[digital scroll]

yeah i just priod it

foolishly i guess

[twilit quail]

well look at it this way

the setup might change again next week

AHAHA

[digital scroll]

maybe i just stop artificing

[twilit quail]

though I dont think it will

in a meaningful way in regards to this

cause we're just bouncing around 15-37%

[digital scroll]

oh btw what about lifeng? im p3 rn but i'll get p4 sooner or later with the standard guarantee, you used to have a diff set for that

[twilit quail]

oh man

[digital scroll]

is that still true? or thats scrapped now too

[twilit quail]

ok so you get to run 4 damage pieces perma with p4 basically

[digital scroll]

i cant help it that he spooked me 3 times

[valid zealot]

New setup they all need 0 charge, unless Da Pan.

[twilit quail]

and he's going to rip ass

he's going to outdamage endmin, possibly

[valid zealot]

Also boy strong.

[twilit quail]

[midnight stirrup]

Ugh what am I missing

[valid zealot]

Esp with sig he statmaxxing like crazy.

Very good damage.

[twilit quail]

if youre at that point you should go for sig

[digital scroll]

ok so just swap out the uge chest for swordmancer chest?

[twilit quail]

the gap between sig and valiant widens significantly with p3 onwards

[digital scroll]

got it alrdy fate threw him at me so i leaned in

[outer ermine]

need a bit more from ard but crit grind starts

[lofty frigate]

missing a bit of dps but it should be fine with higher investment/food maybe? or crit fishing

[valid zealot]

Poggies.

[urban zephyr]

If you click to see more info for the development level you can see sources

[dire nymph]

it doesnt show what u particularly need though

sec

[digital scroll]

but lifeng onfield is still a nono i guess cause of those long ass skill animations

[twilit quail]

works

[midnight stirrup]

Brother, you think im not aware when im like 10 exp away from max level

[dire nymph]

here's mine

[midnight stirrup]

I feel like I did everything so idk where its from

[dire nymph]

just crosscheck or something

[twilit quail]

there is also 3 sword 1 slab which I need to run the maths on again

[digital scroll]

theres time im only p3 for now

i'll stick with 3sm+ ult charge bone chest

im just scared to artifice anything atp

phys is a fkin ride

[twilit quail]

oh it's beautiful isnt it

[midnight stirrup]

you have 3k difference in stock distribution. Weird. Pretty sure theyre all maxed

brb

[digital scroll]

but no reason to artifice rn anyway so I'll just wait until the smart ppl cook it up

[twilit quail]

ah I suppose there's also aethertech gloves

[dire nymph]

oh

[twilit quail]

and then you talent2maxx

and do as many of his skills as possible for vuln filler

[digital scroll]

yeah i just spam his skills and ignore chen's atp

[valid zealot]

Watch me dust my 26/36 artificed intensity set.

[urban zephyr]

Did you get all outposts, stock distribution, depot nodes, and recycling stations to level 4? Placed mining rigs in every available ore spot?

[valid zealot]

[twilit quail]

it's still worth stacking chen's sundering

but generally bs cs is enough

[digital scroll]

fkin sundering. ugly ass weapon. if im gonna run sundering then i will do endmin onfield

cause im not gonna look at that thing

[twilit quail]

xd

[valid zealot]

Fair point.

[digital scroll]

how much worse is endmin onfield again?

[dire nymph]

need a transmog fr

[digital scroll]

shouldnt be much

[twilit quail]

you will feel a fair bit of clunk with sp

[digital scroll]

im no mechanical god anyway

i really hate his hitstun

[twilit quail]

cause the resource gain is not as good

[digital scroll]

it's so clunky

[dire nymph]

ok im ngl fortmaker looks better than thermite

[twilit quail]

but with lif it should be fine

[valid zealot]

Not timing 0.3s to cancel auto aye.

[lofty frigate]

got it down to 65s but i'm just a tiny bit of damage away to kill it with the crush

[twilit quail]

fortmaker is kinda gas

at full pot maxed essence

icl

[digital scroll]

my crazy thought was lifeng onfield and just swap away to chen for a couple seconds when lif is doing skill then go back

[dire nymph]

im missing like

1 fortmaker copy i think

[valid zealot]

That is just more mechanical.

[twilit quail]

doable but it's a lot of effort

[dire nymph]

or two

[woeful plume]

it looks like his sig bro

[twilit quail]

and the gains are a little dubious in full uptime

[digital scroll]

yeah it is too much effort probs and i'd still have to look at sundering

[twilit quail]

because chen cancelling with bs cs is also really good

fucking sundering

[digital scroll]

so i either get her ascent

[valid zealot]

With lf p1 is the rotation significantly changed.

[digital scroll]

cope with aspirant

or go endmin onfield

and endmin onfield is probably the lesser of 3 evils

[woeful plume]

sundering looks like those utility knifes

carpet knife, craft knife

[twilit quail]

rolling on nev*r rest banner 🤢

[valid zealot]

Sorry.

[digital scroll]

i rolled on it

went max pity

[valid zealot]

I was clueless.

[woeful plume]

this is sundering steel

[valid zealot]

Same vro.

[twilit quail]

also never rest is a fucking terrible localisation

[digital scroll]

a day later it turned out thermite was better

[valid zealot]

Got baited so hard.

[digital scroll]

i am not gonna run thermite on him

[valid zealot]

Yes.

[twilit quail]

in chinese it's 不知归

[digital scroll]

ake can have that for laev team

[twilit quail]

lit. to never know return

[valid zealot]

Never come back or smth.

[digital scroll]

hes keeping is damn sig i dont care

[valid zealot]

I'm bad with words.

[twilit quail]

it's a shame

cause thermite is ugly

[digital scroll]

WAIT. where does grand vision rank for chen?

[twilit quail]

but never rest is so cringe

[valid zealot]

Weapon skin when.

[twilit quail]

it's not very good

[valid zealot]

So I can justify pulling never rest.

[twilit quail]

just a strictly worse sundering

[digital scroll]

so my only option is ascent

or no chen onfield

[valid zealot]

I have ascent but do I raise.

P0

[twilit quail]

dupe ascent

[valid zealot]

[twilit quail]

otherwise it's still worse than sundering

[valid zealot]

My sundering not p5 tho.

[dire nymph]

does wulfgard do substantial dmg or no

[digital scroll]

eh probably not worse enough to matter

[dire nymph]

im still drained after building my phys team

[valid zealot]

So there's room.

[twilit quail]

and then to make p1 ascent actually better in a notable way on top of that

[digital scroll]

idunno

[urban zephyr]

What do you expect from a localization team that's using teenagers slang? This is why I have my language set to Japanese.
At least they didn't add any brainrot like 67

[twilit quail]

you have to use fucking

SLAB

AHAHA

IT'S NOT REAL

[digital scroll]

yea no chen onfield is dead to me

[valid zealot]

Don't push the slab agenda on me.

[digital scroll]

this is just

i hate this comp

[valid zealot]

[twilit quail]

physical

[digital scroll]

everybody has some fkin drawback

[twilit quail]

it's peak

[dire nymph]

if only it wasnt so expensive

[twilit quail]

if you give him demented dmg build he can get some big numbers

[digital scroll]

and the ugliest ass weapons are the best

thermite and sundering

[dire nymph]

ive been fucking around so i still dont have 3 90s

[digital scroll]

who tf came up with this

[valid zealot]

Same man.

[dire nymph]

ok not doing allat

[twilit quail]

he takes 3x crit set and frontier chest to max bskill dmg

[valid zealot]

Hop on Lae once on God the fluidity I can ever wish.

[digital scroll]

wulfgard dps is actually kinda fun

[dire nymph]

ive never played laev

[digital scroll]

not good but fun

[dire nymph]

ive only been on phys

gonna be my first time playing her on umbral

[valid zealot]

I then realized I hate myself.

[outer ermine]

[valid zealot]

Oh his tag is babus team not last rite.

[sudden sparrow]

wulfgard + perlica as electrification generators for dps arclight

[outer ermine]

oh fuckin god my last proc didnt crit

3/4

lol yea, just happened to have lr tag and main lr

[valid zealot]

Crit fishing?

Or she actually has respectable amount of crit.

[outer ermine]

nope just ginseng on ard and lr

[digital scroll]

im also still hella confused about phys team order. some say chen must be before endmin, some say lifeng must be before endmin and then i see speedclears posted with pog endmin lifeng chen order

does it just not matter atp?

to me chen before endmin made the most sense cuz you dont want her combo to eat crystal

[lofty frigate]

got it down to 63s idk if i can mash these buttons any faster

[valid zealot]

That was quick.

[valid zealot]

Diff conditions so not matter I suppose.

[lofty frigate]

the video iana sent helped a lot

[valid zealot]

Unless there's some dark magic I didn't learn about.

[digital scroll]

oh guys do we have a phys team mastery prio somewhere? pog bs+ult m1 is a given, endmin combo m3 seems like a good deal on paper for crystal extension, maybe ult m3 too? skill whatever cuz crush doesnt scale from it anyway. lifeng bs m3 seems good too and maybe chen ult m3 and thats about it in this order?

[digital scroll]

oh yeah this vid also had a different character order. icant

i'll just stick with pog lifeng chen endmin. im used to their controls now for this order

[twilit quail]

all of this will become relevant with 6* phys limited release god bless

[lofty frigate]

and the rotation flips itself on its head again

[digital scroll]

i'd love a chen replacement for full chad team

but an endmin replacement is definitely more necessary

and more likely

[valid zealot]

Then endmin p3/4 powercreep the endmin replacement.

No no what am I thinking.

[digital scroll]

pog onfield should have been the best, sickest animations

[drifting berry]

Huh, Xaihi at M3 ult needs 1200 intellect to maximaze it's effect?

crazy

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-9403556598434283568

[outer ermine]

cant reach 1.2k yet

[edgy crater]

94k non crit ardel?
w8, u build her as sub dps?

[unreal light]

Hi! Who’s stronger for arts debuffing? Perlica with electrification vs P1 Ardelia?

[outer ermine]

thats crit

its just some text bug bullshit merging

[edgy crater]

bruh dats crit

[outer ermine]

but im stacking skill dmg on her yes

[edgy crater]

663 on her sig?

[outer ermine]

need 100k actually but i need 200k tcreds to upgrade wp to 90

[unreal light]

What do you say?

[frozen tide]

P5 per should be slightly higher than p0 ard unless ur stacking corrosion on arts susc

Well if we are not considering uptime that is

Ard can have 100 percent uptime

[unreal light]

Ardelia is p1

So she’s even stronger, I suppose

[drifting quest]

how much intensity on perlica

[frozen tide]

Perlica does have the benefit of not requiring sp

And perlica can also do dmg at high invest

But ard can heal

So there's def tradeoffs

[amber vapor]

Has umbral gone live yet or is it at next server reset?

[drifting quest]

12am server time

or 12pm server time

i didnt check if its 24h clock or now

[frozen tide]

[woeful plume]

cant wait for my

15 minutes of endgame

[woeful plume]

did u try any gilb rotations with LR

it seems a bit schizo

was gonna ask u that yday

[frozen tide]

Bruh i lost my gilb 50 50 to laev

Not even sure if i can get gilb any more

[woeful plume]

oh oops, my bad chief

[frozen tide]

I need 40 more pulls by end of banner

To force a pull

I alr 100 percent aurylenes and chests

[drifting quest]

15m

[woeful plume]

oh dayum

[drifting quest]

how long do you plan to stall

[frozen tide]

Whar

[amber vapor]

Official Umbral Monument Info

[frozen tide]

8 trims total with umbral?

[drifting quest]

1

[frozen tide]

The panda man will come to check

[frozen tide]

7+1

[outer ermine]

"4"

[frozen tide]

Erm

[drifting quest]

what're the other 7 from

[frozen tide]

3 from re crisis

1 from valley depot

[drifting quest]

oh

total

as in from all sources

[frozen tide]

Yes

[amber vapor]

Dawg you asked for Umbral silly

[drifting quest]

that was not particularly clear

[frozen tide]

"8 trims total with umbral"

Suppose that can be interpreted that way

[drifting quest]

'including umbral' would have been a clearer way

'with umbral' could be interpreted as I did with how many are being added with the event

[frozen tide]

We theorycrafting sentence formation now gg

[drifting quest]

english language things

[potent hornet]

so who has the number that is attached to the MORE dmg part of Link?

[amber vapor]

Semantics of the English language

[drifting quest]

depends on stacks

see the damage doc

[unreal light]

I’m in the middle of creating my third team, so rn no intensity at all, but I’m not against building whole intensity in the world for both perlica or Ardelia

[frozen tide]

I think its 20 percent ult 30 percent bs at 1 stack

[unreal light]

I dunno what’s the highest amount

[frozen tide]

Rly hard to stack link as of now

[unreal light]

Like 20 + 20 + 44 + 44 and that’s without an upgrade?

[drifting quest]

perlica scaling depends on her intensity
ardelia scaling depends on skill level

[unreal light]

Oh smart

[potent hornet]

hmmm gotcha

[unreal light]

So what if perlica is 100 arts intensity

[drifting quest]

they are different multipliers anyway so it really just sort of

depends

[unreal light]

Or whatever the goal should be

[drifting quest]

on other parts of the team, weapons, etc

not as simple as picking the bigger number

[unreal light]

I don’t have any other debuffs in this team, except for electrification from Perl or susc from Ardelia

[frozen tide]

You run 4 arts int if you don't have her built for dmg 4 piece pulsar for mostly arts int+ some dmg

[amber vapor]

If you don't trim you get banned from #theorycrafting

[unreal light]

Yeah I don’t see any value in her raw damage, cause I don’t buff electro anyhow

[hexed edge]

i have pog, lifeng, chen and endmin team at 80 and cant make rhoadom more fast as 3 minutes ; - ;

wanna cry

[frozen tide]

She buffs herself

[unreal light]

I mean, she doesn’t have antal buff and stuff

[frozen tide]

Pulsar labs by itself buffs ult quite a bit if you cs into ult

Her pot increases atk when cs

And her pot also greatly increases ult crit chance

What comp u running

[amber vapor]

Look into food buffs as well as artificing gear and having half-decent essences

[supple tartan]

Would da pan work better in that team?

[summer flower]

Ehh how much?

[frozen tide]

30 percent iirc i can check

[hexed edge]

im ihigh invested in endmin...

[frozen tide]

Yeah it is 30

So 35 total crit rate

[summer flower]

30 isn't then possible to get 100%?

[unreal light]

Perchance you gotta simply redo your rotation. Like not spending any ulties in the first phase, and just nuke the guy, once he’s staggered in the second phase

And if you don’t have much damage to quickly transfer him to 2nd phase, then spend Chens ulti at the beginning of the battle, after first combo skills, that way you got enough damage, and you’ll have plenty of time to refill the energy on Chen

[frozen tide]

But even without crit perlica does good dmg all things considered compared to most supports

[summer flower]

How much is artificed crit gear?

[potent hornet]

yea Perlica is just solid all around

[frozen tide]

Don't artifice crit gear

[potent hornet]

throw a detonator on her

[frozen tide]

Unless u really know what ur doing

[summer flower]

Too late

[potent hornet]

thats about as much investment as you need to make her useful

[unreal light]

Also don’t forget, the loading screen counts towards the timer. So if it takes a while to load, firstly teleport to the boss, and enter it on your own. You also may decrease your graphics if this causes any delays

[frozen tide]

Crit set can get theoretical ceiling on some chars

But like

[hexed edge]

Oh! thanks

[amber vapor]

Gloves give 11.2% and auxiliary give 13.5% on MI set individual bonuses

[summer flower]

Like it was 45% or 50% without artifieced

Isn't non-set one higher crit?

[frozen tide]

W iana

[unreal light]

#theorycrafting message also try this tactic, it helped for me

[amber vapor]

Yeah you would run one non-set auxiliary

[summer flower]

So 3 crit set with crit, + non-set crit, do you think i'll hit 70%?

[frozen tide]

On ult?

[summer flower]

Yep with +30%

It'll make it 100%

[unreal light]

Chen’s ulti does not break crystals from Endmins cs, so you may use her ult in between endmins cs and ulti (to buff the damage of chens ult)

[potent hornet]

is there crit dmg support?

[summer flower]

And 50% is already good enough uptime for crit set passive

[drifting quest]

there is 1 (one) source of crit damage in this game

[potent hornet]

meh

[drifting quest]

or well, 2 but thats whale stuff

[unreal light]

Essences

[potent hornet]

doesn't seem worth it,

[amber vapor]

10.8 + 11.2 + 13.5 + 6.7 + 5% from set bonus and +5% at max atk stats from bonus (Seal + MI set) at +3 artifice

[rugged vale]

Food

[drifting quest]

if there's a weapon or food with crit damage

[potent hornet]

if you can scale your element or arts past 50% that just negates the need for crits yea?

[drifting quest]

feel free to show me

[frozen tide]

Seems like ult would get like 65ish with 3 crit pieces but you def shouldn't run allat on perlica

Pulsar is kinda just made for her

[rugged vale]

Oh Crit damage no

[unreal light]

Not really a whale stuff, anyone can access CRIT weapons

[frozen tide]

Pulsar is so good for perlica

[unreal light]

Some are available in restock

[drifting quest]

which one has crit damage

[unreal light]

CRIT rate

[drifting quest]

i never said anything about crit rate

[unreal light]

Many of them

Ahhh I see

[potent hornet]

yea i asked about crit damage support

[frozen tide]

Crit rate by itself is a subpar stat on most chars

[drifting quest]

i said there is 1 (technically 2 but its a pot 5 limited) sources of crit damage

[frozen tide]

As crit dmg is locked at 150

[drifting quest]

the 2 are yvonne p5, and yvonne ult

[frozen tide]

Minsecurity set bonus is the only saving grace

[summer flower]

Doesnt look right

[amber vapor]

Yvonne is the only character that relies on crits

[frozen tide]

As you can stack atk through crit

[summer flower]

You mean 5% crit from artifice?

You mean 4 sources of crit after artifice seen 5 %points increase?

[frozen tide]

Crit set is just not worth discussing for perlica support/sub dps

[potent hornet]

gotcha, its just weird to see a game where crit dmg isn't the main way to scale dmg in the endgame

[unreal light]

So what’s your honest opinion?

I don’t have any other debuffs except for Perlica or P1 Ardelia, and I need to choose between them, any advice is welcomed

[drifting quest]

id have to do the math and being honest

dont really want to be doing that right now

[frozen tide]

Whats your comp

[drifting quest]

if you dont get an answer remind me tomorrow

[potent hornet]

Do you need healing?

if not perlica is the keep

if you do ardelia

[frozen tide]

If your comp can afford sp once every 30/25 secs ard is easy uptime

[unreal light]

I’m in the middle of creating one, as it is my third team, so I’m not finished yet

But it is going to be arts, non-electro team

[amber vapor]

That's because there's a lot of sources of DMG comboing from buffs to self/team and debuffs to enemies. The game's combat relies on great rotations and team synergy. I mean you still have a hyper carry in most teams (except for physical), but it's not inflated by an arbitrary reliance on crits

[summer flower]

Anway crit for perlica probably won't happen soon

I started investments into her regular set

[frozen tide]

Alright lets start with dps whos your dps

Is it laev

[summer flower]

Chen

[amber vapor]

I guess we're #team-build 2.0 now

[outer ermine]

bro has a 3rd team already

[summer flower]

Nah, no cancer here

[unreal light]

Does electrification surpass 28 arts sus?

[drifting quest]

always has been
#help 3 and #team-build 2

[frozen tide]

There's people constantly going on tangents about different gachas

[unreal light]

No she’s in another team already

[drifting quest]

its just in the nature of the channel

[frozen tide]

But mb for discussing team comps in endfield

[amber vapor]

[frozen tide]

[drifting quest]

we get to offtopic without getting told off so it doesnt bother me that much personally

[frozen tide]

Lr or avy then

[drifting quest]

being strict to the channels purpose kills the channel

[amber vapor]

Neither does it bother me, I just enjoy being tongue-in-cheek sometimes

[unreal light]

It’s non-electro

[digital scroll]

it's like tiers

[amber vapor]

Yeah we have micro-groups specific to each channel lmao

[frozen tide]

Ok so lr

[unreal light]

And I’m not sure yet who’s gonna be on the team

[frozen tide]

Lr frequent has sp issues

[unreal light]

So that’s why I’m asking

[frozen tide]

If no ake mayb perlica then

[unreal light]

I mean both Perlica and Ardelia require 100 sp once in a while

[amber vapor]

W mods snipe

[frozen tide]

Perlica does not require sp

Perlica is cs and ult bot

Never bses in anything but electro

[amber vapor]

^

[unreal light]

Her electrification is like 5 second long

[frozen tide]

With p1 it increases

[drifting quest]

i wonder if its automod or just lurking mods

[unreal light]

Oh does it

[drifting quest]

pretty awkward if they're always watching when we discuss these things

[unreal light]

Didn’t know

What’s the increased time?

[amber vapor]

The accounts are compromised users who got hacked by phishing and then the accounts spam to every single chat so they just get immediately guillotined

[drifting quest]

oh yeah i didnt consider they probably send it in every chat

botted and all

[amber vapor]

+75%

[frozen tide]

Should be 8.5 secs

[unreal light]

I see, 175%

[woeful plume]

question

isnt p1 last rite kinda sleeper

5 extra stagger every final strike?

that has to add up

[frozen tide]

P1 is ass

[potent hornet]

to be honest i'm enjoying that so far about the game, i'm not constantly trying to figure out how to sneak more crit or crit dmg onto my characters. i can focus on scaling my element and then trying to squeeze in my stats through artificing. It's a nice change

[outer ermine]

16.4 cr is too real

[woeful plume]

p1 last rite is better than p0 cuz it makes you closer to p3

[frozen tide]

P3 matters most by far p4 is decent p5 is ok

[unreal light]

And what’s the max Perlica arts intensity one can run?

[drifting quest]

question: what is it that last rite is currently known for? her gimmick you could say?

[potent hornet]

me sitting here at P2

[amber vapor]

If the chance of hitting a crit isn't 100%, then you should expect it to be a coin flip every time regardless, so it ends up being a pleasant surprise rather than a crutch

[unreal light]

Eh boobs?

[amber vapor]

Nuking

[woeful plume]

nickname checks out

[digital scroll]

im keep hearing lifeng p1 opens up rotations and stuff but ... how? he will still be the opener in the standard pog lif chen endmin team and you will still spam his skill at least twice so...what changed here rota-wise? (p1 giving more sus and him being able to refresh it with his 2nd skill is great but not a rota change)

[unreal light]

I’m not much into the theory crafting

Might be slacking off a bit

[potent hornet]

i enjoy her fight animations, i had her before i started looking up metas and character ratings. It is a nice coincidence that she also has some giga dmg

like the over the shoulder final strike she does screams Nightmare and Sigfried from Soulcalibur

[amber vapor]

I'm expecting Fangyi to be an electro nuker, equivalent to LR being the cryo nuker

[potent hornet]

and that tripped some serious nostalgia

[drifting quest]

id put my bet behind subdps fangyi

matches her vibe and what we've seen of her combat so far

[amber vapor]

Who would be the 6* dps then

[rugged vale]

her guard ?

pink haired girl

[amber vapor]

Mifu radiates 5* energy ngl

[frozen tide]

Fangyi goated forced ele for lr trust

[broken shale]

Mi fu

[drifting quest]

why does there need to be a 6* main carry

avywenna exists, potentially mi fu too

[amber vapor]

Money

[drifting quest]

mi fu could be 6* or 5

as if fangyi isnt printing money either way

[amber vapor]

It's a gacha don't forget

The star of the show for each region has to be the most broken in some way

And that's most often as a DPS

[broken shale]

I hope both tangtang and mi fu are 5*

[midnight stirrup]

Fangyi evidence points at her being electric. Same with Mi Fu.

[drifting quest]

who is the star of the show for valley 4

[midnight stirrup]

Did want Fangyi to be nature though.

[amber vapor]

Yvonne

[midnight stirrup]

Chen, duh

[broken shale]

Endmin

[amber vapor]

But we see how that turned out

[drifting quest]

she certainly is broken, not in a positive light

[midnight stirrup]

Yvonne was not the star of the show, like, at all

[broken shale]

Perlica I'd say

[frozen tide]

Yvonne character so ass

[midnight stirrup]

If were gonna be real it was the robot that died

[frozen tide]

I hated her story quest

[unreal light]

So without upgrading the set, perlica max arts intensity is 146

[amber vapor]

Anderson mentions her from like the beginning of the story, though not immediately in name

[broken shale]

I don't think he's a star if you can't even remember his name

[amber vapor]

The climax of v4 is us meeting Yvonne and using Tata to save the day

[midnight stirrup]

Im just bad with names in general

[unreal light]

I hope Mi fu is 5*, that way tang tang is 6

[drifting quest]

my point was fangyi hasnt done a ton to be in the spotlight yet anyway, most of her showcase was backline support

[amber vapor]

Yvonne being a pivotal engineer that assisted in the functioning of the PAC and other things

[midnight stirrup]

Yvonne did jackshit in the story

[frozen tide]

Wuling story is hardly out

[midnight stirrup]

It was all Tata

Oh right

[drifting quest]

all the more reason guessing rarity based on 'star of the show' is pointless

[midnight stirrup]

And that evil chick

[frozen tide]

And fangyi showed the most impressive direct strength feat in endfield so far

[midnight stirrup]

Even Wulf did more than Yvonne

[frozen tide]

Wulf has been consistently useful

[midnight stirrup]

WAIT

How can I forget

[frozen tide]

He's done his job on repeat

[midnight stirrup]

The star of the show was Rossi

[regal jewel]

does arts intensity also increase physical skills?

[midnight stirrup]

Holy

[drifting quest]

we ignore the villains

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rossi-arknights-endfield-PNWdNiQeDuUUNoxAEo

[unreal light]

So electrification scales of 146 arts intensity like this:

146x2 / (146 +300)

292/446 = 0,65

What did I count?

[midnight stirrup]

Fangyi is giving Raiden Shogun in power

[unreal light]

Is it like +65% to electrification debuff?

Like 24% X 1.65?

[frozen tide]

Yes cause who cares abt those non playable chuds

Smh

[drifting quest]

clueful

[broken shale]

They look cool

[frozen tide]

Should be additive to the original

Lemme check

[bronze plume]

anybody got the time for when umbral exists

[unreal light]

24 + 65% is 24 X 1.65

Am I wrong?

[frozen tide]

Nvm it is mult

[midnight stirrup]

I couldnt care less for the evil chick

Ashdagir or whatever is dope tho

Love his JP VA

[frozen tide]

Its mult anyhow i remberd wrong

[drifting quest]

8hr after reset

[unreal light]

No way

You mean like 20 hours from now on?

[bronze plume]

8 hours from now or next reset?

[drifting quest]

daily reset is 4am server time
umbral is 12pm server time

[unreal light]

You’re shitting me

[bronze plume]

W thx

[unreal light]

[outer ermine]

where do i farm ult energy fast af

[midnight stirrup]

Essences

[drifting quest]

i should start levelling my essences

[frozen tide]

Stew meeting or just any plentiful bob mobs

[drifting quest]

i have a 1/1/1 for chen, endmin and lifeng

[frozen tide]

I like power plat

[midnight stirrup]

I did another 2 ticket run earlier

Still havent gotten LR essence

LMAO

[frozen tide]

Whel gets punished by rng

[outer ermine]

im not stewing 3 ops

[midnight stirrup]

Real

[drifting quest]

actually dropping the essences i want has been pretty chill

[midnight stirrup]

Game is nerfing my LR hella hard

[drifting quest]

maxing out laevs was not chill

6 pities

[unreal light]

Ah and arts susc never changes

[outer ermine]

in already getting fucked in the ass doing 2 ginseng, 1 jakub per buff refresh

[unreal light]

Hey so it’s 28% for p1 Ardelia and 40% for Perlica

[quaint matrix]

so,i'm trying iana rotation for phys team 4/3/4 one. but radann can't survive full 1st circle

[unreal light]

But what about weapons, I mean does Perlica wear starry beach or stanza or detonation unit

[frozen tide]

Are you assuming max stack ele

[unreal light]

Unsure about Ele

I’m assuming 146 arts intensity

[frozen tide]

Perlica by herself only csing gets 16 percent base i believe

[unreal light]

Oh does it huh

So I really need to pop this electrification on my own?

By using battle skill, not a cs

[frozen tide]

Perlica usually just takes the free ele and calls it a day

[digital scroll]

does p1 lif change the standard phys team rotation in any way?

[frozen tide]

If you rly wanna max out the screenshots experiment ig

[unreal light]

What’s ele

[west moon]

Is there any chance devs will rework how teams will work? Right now it is just layouts, but it would've been better if it worked like presets. For example, all SP generators right now use roughly same gear and weapons, it would be a waste to create/maintain separate pieces for them, so if you want to juggle around teams, you need to remember switching them

Which is cumbersome

[frozen tide]

Electrification

[unreal light]

You’re less punished if you press a wrong button

Like you have a combo from Chen, and you push it just because it’s up

[unreal light]

Ahhh wise

[digital scroll]

eventually maybe, games ususally save this for when the general mood goes down and they want to have a devs listened moment

[frozen tide]

Its a great thing perlica doesn't have to battle skill or synergize with another unit

And applies the debuff by herself with cs

[unreal light]

In that case, W/out p1 lifeng your numbers are cooked

Grilled if you wish

[digital scroll]

right so it doesnt change anything in a properly rotated team in terms of actual rotation variety. figured as much, nevertheless super good p1 for refreshing sus mid-rot and higher sus value ofc

[west moon]

Min/maxers usually don't do oblivion on perlica, but I personally like perlica being second DPS on the team. What do you think?

Team in question is default electric

[unreal light]

I’ve already chosen a second dps, and I’m not running any other electric units, so I’d need Perlicas might to debuff enemies

[west moon]

Who's second DPS? Arclight?

[unreal light]

Non-electric

It’s going to be Gilbert

[west moon]

Gilbert dps

[unreal light]

I ain’t snitchin my main dps

[west moon]

Isn't that avy?

[unreal light]

Bro

[west moon]

Team in question is default electric

I'm not talking about other teams where perlica is pure catalyst

[west moon]

My question was related directly to avy/perli team

[unreal light]

Ah if you weren’t answering to my messages then yes

Perlica is a good 2nd dps

I mean pretty everyone is good right now

But Perlica seems to have a good niche, that no one takes in the near future

[lime bear]

should I only upgrade Pog Ult and BSkill only

[unreal light]

And even if they power creep her, creating another electro dps, you don’t waste much resources, cause you can just swap her set

[unreal light]

If your pog is like lvl 60-70, then yes

Once you have like 3200-3500 atk, you may want to upgrade his auto attacks and stuff

Just cause you can and it’s a free damage source after all

[summer flower]

Okay, i Heard someone is fake-element

But is it really fake element?

Can't remember who

[bronze plume]

define fake element

[unreal light]

Ember

[summer flower]

Okay, does she deal fire damage?

[unreal light]

Cause she applies phys stacks

[lime bear]

isn't his damage share only 5-7%

also wouldn't Ember stonks go up for Umbral cuz sustain and no heals

[summer flower]

Okay,

Its fire damage only on ultimate

[bronze plume]

people say ember is fake heat because the only actually useable team for her is in physical and even then shes meh

[summer flower]

0.0

[bronze plume]

bs also does heat dmg

[summer flower]

Ohh missed that

[lime bear]

.umbral

[crystal coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1470467555637334127/image.png?ex=698b6721&is=698a15a1&hm=4aa8bcad03188291b0dff4c3b3becee9e40e7b4e2407d39f2e39652d2c3c2103&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=463&height=361

[summer flower]

25 stagger?

I'm gonna build ember unironnically

[bronze plume]

have fun wasting mats den

[lime bear]

I'm prob gonna stop at 80 all for physical and no masteries

[unreal light]

His auto attack scaling doesn’t differ from any other char, and having 3500 atk, doesn’t differ his auto attacks from 3500 lifeng or 4000 endmin

[summer flower]

Already doing it often

[dry kindle]

Last rite also has 25

And 30sp final

[summer flower]

Don't have LR

[bronze plume]

finally i maxed the ult gain set on laev i can finally use both sets

[lime bear]

wait also weekly arsenal shop reset

[unreal light]

Yeah

[bronze plume]

true

[lime bear]

what wep is it this time

[unreal light]

Hopefully chens sig

[lime bear]

haven't checked

[unreal light]

Phys lance

The worse one

[bronze plume]

it resets in 7h

bro valiant isnt bad to get if youre running phy what you on

[unreal light]

Valiant

[west moon]

The biggest use out of amber is 2k arsenal tokens

[bronze plume]

amber 🥀

[unreal light]

Mountain bearer exists

[bronze plume]

thats obvious

[edgy crater]

aint ember use sundered prince?

[bronze plume]

but to get mountain you need to do this thing called pulling on the specific banner for it

[lime bear]

ain't noone wasting arsenal to pull mb

[neon cave]

arts inteensity or ult gain eff for pog?

[weary egret]

Is it depends on asia or europe?

[unreal light]

That’s why valiant is the worse one amongst 6* phys polearms

[bronze plume]

just because a better option exists doesnt make the next best thing bad

[drifting quest]

server time is different for both so yes

[west moon]

Really?

[unreal light]

It’s not bad it’s worse

It’s not as good as mountain

[weary egret]

my was just now

[drifting quest]

2-8% gap is an unsurmountable wall

at lower investment

higher investment yeah mb kinda owns

[bronze plume]

sigh...

[west moon]

I'd not pull for any non-dps signatures right now

Too expensive

[summer flower]

So how would rotation with ember work?

[unreal light]

Wdym lifeng is a dps

[west moon]

He's sub-dps, not main one

[unreal light]

True, but a dps indeed

[lime bear]

I wanna ask, wouldn't Ember stocks go up at least a bit for sustain stuff in Agony Umbral for the sustain and no consumables

[drifting quest]

but if you're at the point of p3 lifeng this early you can afford to pull mb you whale

[summer flower]

Get hit, chen skill, ember combo, chen combo, endmin combo, endmin skill??

[lime bear]

or just use Laevatain and clears it

[drifting quest]

or you're (un)lucky then you can sack it you lucky mf

[drifting quest]

this implies you need a sustain (you do not)

[lime bear]

isn't there a poison stage or someshi

[drifting quest]

the only case you might need a sustain is anti ember anyway

[summer flower]

This as rotation for ember phys team?

[unreal light]

Just kill enemies faster than poison kills you

[bronze plume]

i mean in agony umbral the majority of people will need some kinda healing unit

[daring dove]

The thing that makes the least sense for Ember to me is her ultimate... She's a sustain option that only has 50% uptime on her shields. If they'd of made her shields last for 20 seconds you'd of at least had an argument about her being decent at P5. But since she only you only get 50% uptime on her shielding her P5 is effectively at most a 5% team ATK buff.

It's like they tried so hard to give her nothing.

[west moon]

You know what's really frustrating about f2p rewards in end field? Achievements don't pay you anything

Just useless medals

[neat snow]

For brag

[unreal light]

Compensates a short pp

[bronze plume]

achievements dont give pulls

you dont get pulls from promotion on ops

you must whale

cave

do it

[neat snow]

💳

[bronze plume]

[west moon]

I'll see if there will be improvements, cause I don't want to waste money on a gold digger

[unreal light]

They might add this later

[frozen tide]

Trims should give 5000 oros each smh

[bronze plume]

gotta cope for changes in 1.1

[west moon]

We got 600 components for 50 authority levels, yahoo

[bronze plume]

cuz if they dont change stuff in 1.1 for the pulls and stuff

[unreal light]

Actually, farm gives you pulls

[bronze plume]

lots will turn away

[drifting quest]

we're already getting a paycheck in 1.1+

for early game

[west moon]

Barely 9 pulls for 60 authority levels is crazy work

[unreal light]

Does other gacha pay you for collecting the cockroaches in the open world?

[bronze plume]

do we know what they are actually giving us tho

[west moon]

In my language it's called groshi

Which means close to nothing

[civic rover]

They need to fix the weapon banner

[west moon]

They are not fixing it, it is conscious and calculated decision

So far weapon banners are the biggest scam here

[civic rover]

You are punished in the weapon banner for getting lucky in the character banner

[next helm]

punished

[bronze plume]

the only thing to fix is to add a way to actually get a good amount of arsenal tickets outside having to pull on character banner

[frigid vector]

if her shields had interrupt resistance it'd at least have some utility but

pretty sure I've been hit out of attacks while it's up

[unreal light]

So true

[west moon]

CBT players had 5k tokens weekly from endgame (?), but that's too much. 2,5k will be more than enough

Or at least 1000

[bronze plume]

tbh ill be surprised if we get a way to farm arsenal tickets before 2.0

[lime bear]

Umbral doesn't give tokens only oros smh

[bronze plume]

they are referring to cbt1

[summer flower]

4vunl team is gonna be working

Chen is 2vunl Right?

[drifting quest]

1k is prob too much too

[bronze plume]

in cbt1 there was a game mode that gave 5k arsenal tickets every week in cbt1 1 10 pull on weapon banner cost 2980 so it was basically 1 2/3

[daring dove]

If they just allowed both pity on the limited banner (both pitys) to carry over... I think people would be quite happy with. As it stands right now the banner can actually punish you for winning your 50/50's which is insanely dumb.

[west moon]

2 pulls a month is nothing crazy imo

[bronze plume]

should give us a weekly that gives us 100 a week thatd be what we need

[west moon]

And it would cost 30 dollars lol

[unreal light]

100 a day

[lime bear]

is that the laser parkour thingy

[lime bear]

just get lucky in credit trust

[bronze plume]

idk what its gameplay actually was

i was in cbt2 not 1

[unreal light]

It’s the og arknights thing

[drifting quest]

2 goes is worth $20 to them so giving us $5 a week worth of goods is ehhh

[lime bear]

25/day

[bronze plume]

yeah $5 is to much

[west moon]

Arsenal token exchange rate is just straight up bullshit

[bronze plume]

they should give us $0

[drifting quest]

!!

[west moon]

That's a thing too

[bronze plume]

and we should give them $100 each month each

[west moon]

Sir, this is not umamusume

[unreal light]

Pulling for 3 holheyaks and zero muelsiseys

[daring dove]

That's cool an all, but this game is trying to reach a wider audience. So they need to not rest on their laurels.

[unreal light]

And pulling all of your hairs off

[bronze plume]

shit i thought this was a wendys

[lime bear]

there are still these gamemodes that aren't in 1.0 yet, definitely 1.1 stuff

[west moon]

Cygames: you will own 0 f2p pulls and be happy

[lime bear]

I thought the first 2 were Etchspace

[frigid vector]

I mean we're due the delver of the cryptic or w/e event

which I think is the platformer mode

[bronze plume]

i mean only time will tell as to if they add them or are ditched

[lime bear]

maybe it can be the expansion but unlikely

[daring dove]

The feedback has been quite consistent from most people. Great game terrible gacha system, I'm a whale so it really doesn't impact me. P5'ing a character in this game is much cheaper than Genshin on average. But I'd still like to see more people happy with the gacha.

[bronze plume]

we literally do not know what they will do

[frigid vector]

it'll be pretty fun if so

[drifting quest]

delver of the cryptic is a puzzle event

undefined what that means

could be anything

[frigid vector]

iirc cbt1 had a mode where you'd run around in a time attack trying to get through stages with lasers and platforming challenges

I'm thinking it's probably a re-imagining of that

[lime bear]

yeah that one

I remember watching kukki vid sbt that

parkour and stuff

[frigid vector]

same, tbh it's not the character necessarily since that can get pretty pricy but the fact you get their weapon from doing so is huge

[edgy crater]

different from dat espect salvage?

[west moon]

1.0 etch space is just straight up horrible. But hey, at least some contrast compared to doing absolutely nothing

[drifting quest]

i think the concept is okay

but the actual gameplay loop is a snooze fest

[west moon]

Strongest asset flip in history vs strongest asset flip of today

[frigid vector]

finished all of etchspace in like 1 evening man 😭

I rushed thinking I was missing out on the weeklies for it

but you could just farm out the points

by the time I was ready to go for them it was complete

[west moon]

Thanks god it is not weekly rn

[lime bear]

I mean it is permanent

[west moon]

I wouldn't bear this shit for one more hour

[gentle quiver]

is the endgame mode already in game?

[lime bear]

and that's a good thing

[west moon]

Today

[frigid vector]

you do have some weekly missions and I thought they had implemented that as some form of repeatable content but nah, it was just for points

[west moon]

In 17 hours or so

[lime bear]

the gameplay loop is fine just that I did the mode when I already on lvl 90

[summer flower]

so i dont have enough low level exp

[lime bear]

so it was too easy

[daring dove]

It's about 15 hours away right?

[summer flower]

time to gather white lights

[lime bear]

if the enemies gonna be properly scaled it can be good