#theorycrafting

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drifting berry
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Why stop at 37 from pity 😭

midnight stirrup
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Learned ur lesson

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The hard way

storm oar
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Yeah

midnight stirrup
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But yea commit

storm oar
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rip all my pulls i had saved i guess

ocean hawk
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the break even point for stopping pull is at 60

harsh slate
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I lost to Ardelia and Last Rite

ocean hawk
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literally middle of the pity

kindred sorrel
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i mean, she fits perfectly in to electric

ocean hawk
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and getting the dosier

midnight stirrup
outer ermine
storm oar
ocean hawk
ocean hawk
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the most optimal one currently

storm oar
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So then theres hope that she works with Fangyi

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And not that Fangyi powercreeps her

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cluegi

drifting berry
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I wouldn't be so sure about that

ocean hawk
brisk pecan
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is it even confirmed she's elec

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could be nature for all we know

kindred sorrel
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dont think anything about her is confirmed

ocean hawk
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by the release ? no

storm oar
ocean hawk
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by the story ? yeah

kindred sorrel
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other than the fact that she's releasing

ocean hawk
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u cant go against the story

rare zodiac
storm oar
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She literally summons lightning bolts from the sky

kindred sorrel
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what if theyre actually ice bolts

ocean hawk
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if we talk about "color" theme only, u can argue with that

brisk pecan
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bolts of raw energy

ocean hawk
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but since she already summoned a lightning

brisk pecan
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she's phys

ocean hawk
brisk pecan
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everyone gets mindbroken

kindred sorrel
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lightning can cause fires, she's clearly a fire character

ocean hawk
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dont make this HSR all over again

harsh slate
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Anyway how's my previous pull

storm oar
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Heres hoping we get more than 40 pulls a patch

ocean hawk
drifting berry
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For Fangyi to be good with Gilberta she needs both to have a very short burst window and/or want Nature infliction. Also there is no way shes not electric

kindred sorrel
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what if she's just yae miko but arknights flavoured

ocean hawk
storm oar
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bruh i lost 3x

ocean hawk
storm oar
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no its not

ocean hawk
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u lost before hitting the guarantee

storm oar
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shut up

ocean hawk
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wait what

kindred sorrel
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ye thats a good thing if you lose before guarantee

harsh slate
drifting berry
kindred sorrel
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its basically an extra 6 star for 20 pulls

ocean hawk
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u prefer getting the guarantee only without losing 50/50 ?

storm oar
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why would I want this

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im never using him

ocean hawk
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while ur normal pity is higher than guarantee ?

storm oar
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id rather just save pulls

outer ermine
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unlock the art PerliWaaaaa

kindred sorrel
harsh slate
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🦫

kindred sorrel
ocean hawk
brisk pecan
storm oar
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Like all the standards are gonna be obsolete within 2 patches, let sbe so for real

brisk pecan
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bro just give in

storm oar
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None of this matters

ocean hawk
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u can get the token

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if pog get maxed

kindred sorrel
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i trust hypergryph prayge

ocean hawk
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and get dupe again

kindred sorrel
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surely ardelia wont be powercrept in a single patch

bronze plume
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my whimsy

drifting berry
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Ardelia will stay relevant, trust

kindred sorrel
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especially after i max potted my ardelia

ocean hawk
storm oar
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This does not spell goodluck for my account in this game

kindred sorrel
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intentionally btw

storm oar
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120 Laev 120 Gilberta

kindred sorrel
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i used the free selector on her too

storm oar
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4x losses in a row

bronze plume
harsh slate
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Let's hope it won't be like HSR treatment

brisk pecan
ocean hawk
bronze plume
kindred sorrel
storm oar
drifting berry
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Why stop at 60, if you gonna stop at 60 don't pull at all 😭

storm oar
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If this game ends up giving like 40 pulls a patch like the CBT did, I might just quit because of how completley unsustainable that is with 3 chars a patch

ocean hawk
brisk pecan
ocean hawk
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i mean u can stop at 30 too

kindred sorrel
storm oar
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This game needs to give at minimum 160 pulls a patch to be somewhat fair to players if they want to make 3 chars a patch

kindred sorrel
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5+5 laeva and 5+2 ardelia

brisk pecan
kindred sorrel
harsh slate
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Antal

ocean hawk
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iirc, some said next patch forward the banner only have 2 char in it

harsh slate
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Really good at Heat and Electric

storm oar
ocean hawk
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not confirmed yet but, thats the most sane option rn

storm oar
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100 pulls a patch is completely fair imo

harsh slate
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Next time imma save 120 pull

ocean hawk
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i mean from chest loot and even and etc etc

storm oar
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well its 240 this patch but thats launch patch, I just hope they dont drop the ball

bronze plume
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100 pulls but hg trying to take away a 0

drifting berry
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100 something pulls per patch would be hella good. Tho I don't think any other 3d gacha gives that many

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Maybe wuwa? idk

vernal torrent
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if i artifice laev's gear fully, the Ultimate gain efficiency build works out best right?

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i have her sig

kindred sorrel
storm oar
kindred sorrel
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if not, dont bother going charge build

ocean hawk
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if u collect all chest

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and do the event

vernal torrent
harsh slate
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90ish pull

kindred sorrel
ocean hawk
vernal torrent
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i thought people said the ult gain build is best at any dupes if u have sig?

rare zodiac
kindred sorrel
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depends on the content, but not by many metrics

harsh slate
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I don't mind the currency's but the HP inflation or the powercreep there is Real

ocean hawk
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300 right

storm oar
kindred sorrel
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tidal + 3 piece hot would probably be the best general use set for her if you dont have her 5+5

kindred sorrel
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if you do have her 5+5, both charge set and double slab set become much stronger than at p0

harsh slate
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Like every week the endgame boss get 13% HP up

ocean hawk
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is the exclusive char getting thrown into standard is stated from the beginning in og arknights ?

kindred sorrel
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og arknights only has limiteds once per quarter

storm oar
kindred sorrel
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and only one character per quarter (outside of collabs) is really limited

bronze plume
storm oar
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there is not special limited, there is limited and not limited

ocean hawk
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wdym by that, (since im not playing og ak)

harsh slate
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But if we look at AK, some old character can be used, not really much of a gimmick that we getting today but have their own value like Nightingale, Hoshi, Saria

bronze plume
storm oar
ocean hawk
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isnt that limited char

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uhhh

storm oar
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no

kindred sorrel
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only thing i'd consider special limited is collab banners, like the current sakiko one

storm oar
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its not limited because it gets thrown into the standard

ocean hawk
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then who is limited char

kindred sorrel
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because theyre very unlikely to ever return

harsh slate
ocean hawk
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like colab ones ?

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r6 ?

rare zodiac
bronze plume
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yeah limited is just every 3 months

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special limited is collab

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standard is well the characters put onto standard

brisk pecan
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collabs, sui ppl

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uhh some alters?

kindred sorrel
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normal limiteds are usually part of a 2 character banner, once per quarter i.e. 4 times per year

bronze plume
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collabs and limited are different

harsh slate
ocean hawk
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so new exclusive char default at standard ?

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ehhh

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its confusing

kindred sorrel
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what character is limited just depends on what hg wants to do

dawn patrol
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bye chat i'm going to bed

peak void
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tuck

storm oar
# ocean hawk like colab ones ?

SO pretend endfield follows arknghts system.
3 months from now they will add a special banner with a special event with a limited character that will NOT be put into the standard pool after they leave, and you won't have the opportunity to get them for at least a year

harsh slate
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I want Endfield to release these Lung Plush

kindred sorrel
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all sui siblings so far are limited

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but which alters get limited and which alters dont is really just random

ocean hawk
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just limited from HG itself ?

bronze plume
storm oar
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Just limited because HG themselves said so

ocean hawk
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ah

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and its stated from the beginning of og ak ?

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like from release

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the system is like that ?

storm oar
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Yes thats how AK has always worked

bronze plume
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at the beginning it use to only be 2 limited every year

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now its 4

summer flower
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Limited, so won't be in standard, but will be appearing as off rate in limited

storm oar
ocean hawk
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no non no

bronze plume
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they change it to 4 a while back

summer flower
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Colabs can rerun

ocean hawk
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the one thrown to standard

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its from release ?

bronze plume
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yeah thats from release

kindred sorrel
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theres only been one actual collab rerun

ocean hawk
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ah

summer flower
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But colabs arent thrown into limited pool

peak void
storm oar
brisk pecan
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most older gachas work like this, everyone is not limited unless stated

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then genshin happened

ocean hawk
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then maybe we can put that into ak ef player survey ?

brisk pecan
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and everyone is suddenly limited

kindred sorrel
storm oar
bronze plume
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i mean to change ef gacha to arknights would to change the entire thing

kindred sorrel
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ok, so just 2 collab reruns

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i dont think dungeon meshi will get a rerun

summer flower
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Guys

heavy tinsel
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got question, does combo skill dmg bonus affect endmin originium crystal dmg taken?

ocean hawk
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and did the r6 get a rerun ?

bronze plume
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they want it to be genshinified

summer flower
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Didnt the siege rerun?

kindred sorrel
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and i dont think the smaller collabs will get reruns either

storm oar
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Endfield works off of the limited system to prey on fomo

bronze plume
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r6 got a rerun yes

summer flower
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Yea

ocean hawk
summer flower
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So stop saying only one collab

ocean hawk
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he's the one playing it

peak void
storm oar
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Its why I say its not fair to compare endfield to OG AK cause they operate on 2 very different systems

ocean hawk
summer flower
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If two or three years ago, then it was on rerun

ocean hawk
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ah

kindred sorrel
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cant really assume any collab is getting a rerun

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even if some collabs have before

summer flower
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I remember in workplace i was told by some guy that there is gonna be rerun of collab

storm oar
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Gacha collab reruns are an exception, not the norm

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When a collab happens, expect them to not come back and be pleasantly surprised if they do

summer flower
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From collab from even before when i wasnt playing

ocean hawk
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tbh, the limited system is not started by Genshin

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it was Hi3

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and it is older than og ak

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2016

kindred sorrel
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even if reruns happen, it'll likely be basically a new collab, and just so happens to include the limited character from the last one, while pushing a new collab unit

edgy crater
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fgo

storm oar
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Genshin popularized it, but they didn't start it

ocean hawk
edgy crater
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it does on some servant

storm oar
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FGO gacha system is some of the most pepega shit I've ever seen in my entire life

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How anyone plays that game is beyond me

ocean hawk
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since it already applied in old hoyo games

harsh slate
ocean hawk
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blame the people who flock to genshins

pure spoke
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If you are below 6 feet dont talk to me and my son every again

storm oar
ocean hawk
blazing copper
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What should I upgrade first as my main dmg here? I dont have that many resources so I will upgrade only the carry

ocean hawk
edgy crater
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gbf using limited system too (?)

ocean hawk
edgy crater
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like dat monkey incident

kindred sorrel
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"limiteds" have been a thing for as long as gachas (and gachapons, and loot boxes) have been a thing

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as a way to foster fomo

ocean hawk
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its just

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in the old time

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the people who play gacha games is soo few

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than now

storm oar
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Fomo is the foundation of gacha gaming and their main source of income

harsh slate
bronze plume
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the only thing that limited banners did is make my bank provider put a limit on my credit cards

kindred sorrel
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fortunately max pot sakiko didnt make me spend too much copium

ocean hawk
harsh slate
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Congrats

ocean hawk
bronze plume
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for legal reasons thats a joke

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my bank cant stop me

chilly bolt
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Is the sheet bugged or aethertech chest got removed from LR build?

ocean hawk
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and tbh gacha player is better than player that bought a game with microtransaction and gacha in it

storm oar
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Can someone give me a hug

drifting berry
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I got blaze alter instead and I run out of pulls, I don't even have yu btw

ocean hawk
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Im looking at u COD player

kindred sorrel
ocean hawk
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💀

edgy crater
drifting berry
edgy crater
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just play other game like Warhammer 3

ocean hawk
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im taking a vacuum at that point

kindred sorrel
drifting berry
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You need to quit for a few month to recharge luck

ocean hawk
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and returned after few months

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yeah

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idk why, but it works

edgy crater
storm oar
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Should I buy a lottery ticket

kindred sorrel
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most sui siblings have been kinda wack, other than shu and yu

twilit quail
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pseudoscience 🔥

bronze plume
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when i get angry at a gacha game

kindred sorrel
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would only bother pulling a single copy of the other sui siblings

bronze plume
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i take my anger out on darksoul bosses

ocean hawk
edgy crater
kindred sorrel
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actually nvm, ling was pretty good too

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ling/shu/yu are my only max pot sui siblings, dusk/nian/chongus were just single copies

bronze plume
drifting berry
twilit quail
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nian has always been useful

outer ermine
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PerliFumo sui siblings slowly cooking in base

twilit quail
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it's just that pure def defender

cinder oxide
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Yall think Da Pan can solo trim Tri and marble? I did rhodagn but Im out of food td so I cant try it

twilit quail
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is fundamentally same as a shifter

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very few use cases

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but irreplaceable

storm oar
ocean hawk
storm oar
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But what if I'm bad at darksouls and they beat my ass

ocean hawk
edgy crater
kindred sorrel
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i mean, when was the last time a max pot nian was actually required

twilit quail
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like 5 months ago

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actually

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so

storm oar
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Also all I'm gonna say, if they want to double Endfields playerbase they release Frostnova, the entire Arknights community would download it on the spot

twilit quail
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like dont get me wrong

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the average guy isnt going to need this unit

edgy crater
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cc rhine lab?

kindred sorrel
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she was required for max points cc3?

twilit quail
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but this character is useful

storm oar
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Cause I'm pretty sure Frostnova actually can exist in this timeline

twilit quail
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she just fills like

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such a specific and narrow thing

bronze plume
twilit quail
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it really is no different from a shifter

ocean hawk
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i mean, the importance on ak

kindred sorrel
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frostnova had oripathy right? surely we can get a reconvener of her

ocean hawk
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since kayla said it can pull ak players

twilit quail
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if you wouldnt call shifter useless then you wouldnt call her useless

storm oar
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One of the most beloved AK characters with the most tragic story

ocean hawk
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ahh

edgy crater
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yelena

ocean hawk
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good backstory ?

outer ermine
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nians3m3+shinings3m3 keeping kroos and the gang alive for aak buffs was funni af before tho

ocean hawk
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and char development

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?

storm oar
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But thats a lot of arknights lore

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AK Is such a depressing story

bronze plume
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thats just arknigths

ocean hawk
dusky tundra
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the set he uses

storm oar
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I enjoyed it

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Most of the ak community enjoyed it

edgy crater
ocean hawk
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its good then

dusky tundra
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why not

edgy crater
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miners kill emperor blade yEP

dusky tundra
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and c0 gilberta

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crazy right

kindred sorrel
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wonder if p5 actually mattered

dusky tundra
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he does not need c5 laev anyways

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here ? no

twilit quail
dusky tundra
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c4-5 doesnt matter here

storm oar
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Why do I see people using GIlberta in story bosses

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Isnt she aoe

dusky tundra
outer ermine
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cuz its story

dusky tundra
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i did my research on this

outer ermine
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shits ez

cinder oxide
bronze plume
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me when someone shows endfields punching bag getting murdered under 20 seconds for the 50th time

storm oar
dusky tundra
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he specifically talks about used sets in description

storm oar
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You deserve the worst endfield luck

twilit quail
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tell me

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where he talks about slab

rotund yoke
twilit quail
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in the description

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please

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give me an underline

storm oar
twilit quail
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on where the text is

bronze plume
storm oar
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better than other options?

dusky tundra
twilit quail
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ok so you havent done the research

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cool

storm oar
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Cause rn Im using Laev Wulfgard Ake Ardelia

bronze plume
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depends on the situation for better then ard

cinder oxide
dusky tundra
twilit quail
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Im a native speaker

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he doesnt say anything

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about gear

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in the description

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you are just making things up

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I dont know who told you this or whatever

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but they are just lying to you or something

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I dont know

dusky tundra
twilit quail
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are you talking about the second paragraph

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did you not even like mtl this stuff

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to read it?

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he is talking about antal nerfs and how he compares to other supports

kindred sorrel
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5+5 means p5r5

bronze plume
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howd skipper give this mans john endfield

twilit quail
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this is what passes for discourse

dusky tundra
neat snow
twilit quail
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that's the set he uses

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in the video

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you didnt even

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watch the video

bronze plume
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bro what

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did you just send the clip

twilit quail
outer ermine
bronze plume
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then talk random shii

twilit quail
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you fucking cretin

dusky tundra
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oh wait i skipped the last fucking part.

twilit quail
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I cant believe it

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whatever man

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just hallucinating things

neat snow
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Me when I spread misinformation PerliFumo

kindred sorrel
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kinda hilarious when he literally shows gear in the video

bronze plume
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i watched a video did research but also didnt actually watch the video

outer ermine
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bilibili effect

twilit quail
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chatgpt generate me a laevatain gear set

drifting berry
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I translated it but the translatioon of 0+1总伤 does't make much sense to me, I assume it means potentials

chilly bolt
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Why is aethertech chest removed on LR builds in the sheet?

twilit quail
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it is?

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it might have been an accident

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hang on

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I was doing some reformatting

chilly bolt
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💀

twilit quail
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yesterday

dusky tundra
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i tried to translate all of it but skipped the ending 🙏

drifting berry
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But yeah this is just taken from a random guy on bilibili, so idk how legit this math is

kindred sorrel
twilit quail
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uhhh

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it's not really good

drifting berry
twilit quail
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that guy's calculations

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are really terrible

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he is wasting SP for no reason

bronze plume
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it looks like this @twilit quail

chilly bolt
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Yeah lol

twilit quail
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using wrong pieces on sets he is comparing against

chilly bolt
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I thought it was bugged

bronze plume
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also what in tarnation is that under construction part

twilit quail
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assuming 100% eyja suscept uptime

bronze plume
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is that literally just you explaining physical

twilit quail
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assuming 100% xiranite uptime(impossiblr)

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wrangling the calc every other way to make slab look good

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it's just deeply unserious

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double slab is not terrible or anything

bronze plume
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when are you adding the ardelia dps build to the sheet

kindred sorrel
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so basically just stick to charge set or tide + hot set

twilit quail
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but if you have hands then it's not better than hot works in basically any situation

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if you are 5+5

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it has something of a case

bronze plume
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slab is basically just for the lazy

kindred sorrel
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damn, guess i need to work on double slab too then

twilit quail
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cause it gets a fair bit better with weapon dupes

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and its damage is pretty good when you are lazy

bronze plume
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i need this stupid last ult gain upgrade on my laev gloves

twilit quail
kindred sorrel
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at least all 3 5+5 sets use tide chest and hot gloves copium

twilit quail
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for speedruns

bronze plume
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imma go back to coding

twilit quail
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3x hotwork and crit chest

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and such

bronze plume
outer ermine
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need that 100k crit skill pop for kill lmao

bronze plume
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im just trying to be whimsical

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cuz i think it would be really funny for a ardelia dps build tab to just show up on the spreedsheet

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im not bias

twilit quail
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It's the first tab Im making rotation graphics for

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it may extend to the rest of the document at some point I dont know

bronze plume
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bros a psychopath

kindred sorrel
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are you going to make rotation graphics for all teams or just physical

bronze plume
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bro just said may

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therefore

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maybe

kindred sorrel
halcyon lark
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i am pretty sure anyone ingame can be dps if they have a 6* bis weap...

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nvm maybe i am wrong.

cinder oxide
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Cant wait for the phys rot Ill be waiting patiently

twilit quail
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physical is the only team that deserves the effort currently

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if other teams get cooler maybe

bronze plume
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put some respect on laevs name dawg

cinder oxide
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Too easy to cycle laev

halcyon lark
bronze plume
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granted laevs rotation is

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really easy to understand

ocean hawk
twilit quail
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I can talk about 7 ebs in 1 ult I guess

ocean hawk
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coz Im new to laev team

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(from phys team)

twilit quail
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or advanced application of wulfgard p5

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but I just dont feel like it

bronze plume
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is 7 ebs in 1 ult the max

twilit quail
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without bug abuse yeah

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with bug abuse and netlimiting you can get 15

bronze plume
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bug abusers

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cringe

frigid vector
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what's the bug

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every bug can be a tech unless it's patched out 😔

twilit quail
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basically it's some destiny 2 shit

bronze plume
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the destiny and arknight collab

twilit quail
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where by manipulating what is sent through your network

bronze plume
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it finally happened

frigid vector
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oh

twilit quail
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you can fuck up a bunch of stuff

frigid vector
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that kind of stuff

twilit quail
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yes

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it's funny but it obviously has no value

bronze plume
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does it make me able to fire more lord of wolves rounds in pvp?

twilit quail
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dude

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were you there for lunafactions lord of wolves week

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that shit was gas

bronze plume
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i didnt play titan

twilit quail
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50m ohk with lord of wolves? yes please

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it was warlock stuff

bronze plume
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oh yeah lunafactions

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damn im dumb

twilit quail
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when lunas were super fucked in pvp

bronze plume
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i was a hunter pvper

twilit quail
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and then there's redrix lunas emp well

dry kindle
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Ew destiny 2 talk

twilit quail
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oh god

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that was fun

kindred sorrel
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A rotation guide for 7 eb laeva would be fun tbh

ocean hawk
bronze plume
#

pay iana to make it ez

dry kindle
harsh slate
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Rotation is kinda hard for me at the moment

kindred sorrel
#

Damn time to start artificing another charge set

twilit quail
#

oh we have a new lae record on rhodan, 14.40

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with crit set

dry kindle
kindred sorrel
#

Crit fishing meta aintnoway

twilit quail
#

wait let me maths this

dry kindle
#

When we getting a sub 10

harsh slate
#

Welp time to farm Crit buff foods and upgrade some Crit weapon

drifting berry
#

Question, how many times do you want to use enhanced skill during Laevatain ult?

I keep seeing some comments mentioning "Molten is bad because of the short uptime" or something like that, but by using enhance skill twice during ult wouldn't just give you 100% uptime? I honestly don't know what the issue is supposed to be.

Or maybe the issue comes from having more restrictive rotations compare to ult recharge set? idk

twilit quail
#

ok no he has like

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1 million more dmg than he needs

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the set isnt important here

bronze plume
#

the correct awnser is as many times as you can

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7 is like nerd shit

frigid vector
#

realistically you should be able to get at least 2 consistently, with melting flame to spare, but the more the better

twilit quail
#

improvements to time will just come with routing

#

I guess

harsh slate
#

Hmm I think when you doing the finisher? When you break them or use the joint attack or something?

bronze plume
#

im going to route a 50 cal to mr punching bag

twilit quail
#

also updated yvonne a little today

#

insane clown shoes unit

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me when dumping crit rate

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is optimal

bronze plume
#

why did they have to add last rite bro

dry kindle
#

When we getting a 10 ebs ult

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Rossi enables it surely

harsh slate
bronze plume
#

rossi will have a talent that makes all heat inflictions doubled

harsh slate
bronze plume
#

why did they have to add

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last rite into the videogame arknights endfield

harsh slate
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I see

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I thought you meant why they add Last rite into the Team on something.

bronze plume
#

my favourite team is
ardelia, dolly, a dolly clone, a dolly clone that looks like ardelia

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2nd best option is
ardelia, eyjafjalla, eyjafjalla the hvit aska and dolly

brisk pecan
#

bro has been indoctrinated by the sheep 😭

drifting berry
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rotund yoke
bronze plume
harsh slate
bronze plume
harsh slate
rotund yoke
rare zodiac
#

7 heat infliction or 7 EBS?

dry kindle
dry kindle
harsh slate
bronze plume
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ive unironically done all stages in so long adele like 8 times now in order

rare zodiac
bronze plume
rotund yoke
dry kindle
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Or 231 I don't wanna math

rare zodiac
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No no like sp? 700 ?? 28 heat infliction in 15s????

woeful plume
harsh slate
harsh slate
rotund yoke
# harsh slate

Don't remind me that i basically skipped Ata ex stages and ccb4

summer flower
harsh slate
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This event was the worst timing on the release of the game

peak void
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Arclight the event and arclight the endfield operator

dry kindle
dry kindle
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Timestop go brrr

peak void
#

67 heat application

drifting berry
#

Akekuri needs to go 🥀.

Gilberta will be grouping all the mobs just for Akekuri to be 1 vs 1 some mob out of screen.

#

I cannot be the only one with this issue

harsh slate
# summer flower ?

This CC come out around the Release of Endfield where most player are playing it like a Madman/jk

peak void
#

Stick together ppl!
Ake not sticking together

half rapids
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aar, pca, but lets celebrate our victory first

harsh slate
#

Anyway anyone play CC4?

rare zodiac
icy ginkgo
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does m3ing yvonne basic also improve ult basics

outer ermine
drifting berry
chilly bolt
dry kindle
#

Why not

chilly bolt
halcyon lark
#

1

drifting quest
outer ermine
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benching xaihi on cryo is crazy work

harsh slate
lone tapir
#

Hello does art reactions (such as solidification) scales off arts dmg dealt ?

summer flower
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I got told that irl just different language

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Dude was infact correct

storm oar
#

is laev bis gear still up for debate, I've still seen both variations where its tide fall armor or LYNX slab

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i want to be 100% sure before i start artificing

daring dove
storm oar
#

does p0 on weapon mean signature no dupes, or no sig

peak void
#

slab is slop

storm oar
#

i have her p0 with sig

harsh slate
storm oar
#

this is what Im currently running

harsh slate
neat snow
#

I think the set is up for contention because different content is best with different sets but the difference overall isn't enormous?

summer flower
#

Wait

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Didnt they flip surtur

storm oar
#

I don't normally like trusting Prydwen cause they are notoriously misinformed but

summer flower
#

She doesnt Burn down

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She heals herself

daring dove
# storm oar i have her p0 with sig

Then yeah, you don’t get a massive gain out of Laevatain’s ult gain build from a damage increase standpoint. But you won’t necessarily lose damage either. Ult gain build in generally considered more comfy to play as it’ll allow you to spam your ult in pretty much every encounter. But as a damage increase at P0 with sig it’s going to be the same damage or sometimes worse than her Hot Works / Slab build. I guess it’s mostly if you care about the comfort that ult gain build gives.

neat snow
peak void
summer flower
#

Not increasing basics is like why you want low dmg when ult isn't active

summer flower
#

We know if gear Had 0 slotting it Would be 4 slabs

storm oar
#

I much prefer comfort over getting every ounce of damage out of a character if the difference isnt astronomical

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But I also know that artificing is absurdly expensive so I wanted to be sure

neat snow
#

At p0 you'll have to full artifice your ult gain lines if you go that build I believe

summer flower
#

That's why i'm artificing for perlica

daring dove
summer flower
#

I still to know which for endmin

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One Has bad stats, other passive doesnt work for endmin

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Swordmancer is like, "its not chen"

peak void
#

the real argument for ult gain build is the comfort it gives in overworld

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but it definitely loses in dmg

summer flower
#

Which gear for endmin then

storm oar
#

Enough to matter in endgame?

daring dove
daring dove
summer flower
#

When i pulled for guarantee on Arsenal for forgeborn, and i noticed that box doesnt include forgeborn :(

peak void
#

if you can end fights quicker, hot works
if its gonna take a while, or the fights are in short bursts (overworld), ult gain

twilit quail
#

whether it's better in lategame depends entirely on the fight

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like you can be functionally 100% ult uptime

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vs dorito

summer flower
#

?

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How

twilit quail
#

it just depends on circumstances

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it's a good set

summer flower
#

I'm asking how

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Walk me thru

storm oar
#

I mean I guess I can do gauntlets and pyrometer first since they are used in both sets, and wait for the new endgame to come out and see?

peak void
#

hot works let me 1 try triaggelos so theres that

twilit quail
#

there is nothing wrong with either

daring dove
storm oar
#

wat

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the pyro gauntlets dont have ult gain

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Or is that a part of artificing, I haven't really understood the system yet

daring dove
storm oar
#

Are you trying to say P0 Laev doesnt use a set

daring dove
neat snow
#

No set bonus for ult build

lavish jay
#

im p0 and am using the ulti gain set.. its just really simple, u use 1 full rotation out of ulti, and u get your ulti up after 1 enhance + 1 combo

storm oar
#

Okay well then Im confused cause I was gonna run this set that people just told me was good

#

I thought that was what we were talking about

lavish jay
#

so if u save the last enhance skill in ulti form, u can technically get back into ulti instantly

#

hence its 100% uptime

neat snow
#

My advice is keep that hot works set and wait for umbral update to artifice what's best for that

storm oar
#

The energy set is just for open world farming then?

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or quick aoe fights

lavish jay
#

no i use it for medal trimming and its fine

storm oar
#

How much on average is it to a fully max artifice a character

summer flower
#

What? Single skill to max ult ?

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O.o

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You serious?

neat snow
#

Couple million wuling bills

lavish jay
summer flower
lavish jay
storm oar
#

I have this and then 200 Catalysts

#

is that enough

neat snow
#

Yeah

kindred sorrel
#

single enhanced laeva skill. you still need the ult energy from 2 team mate skills too

summer flower
neat snow
#

Will need a little luck

daring dove
# storm oar The energy set is just for open world farming then?

Not entirely, if you have potentials on weapon & character it’s pretty much definitely BiS. Although all sets are a bit dependant on situation. Like if you can 1 rotation an encounter ult gain will do less damage. But for PO with sig it’s just an option.

storm oar
#

it sounds like I should just wait for the new endgame to see how thingsl ook

kindred sorrel
#

this is the set for p4+

storm oar
neat snow
#

Yes I think so

kindred sorrel
#

but also, it really depends on content

summer flower
#

Is AoE even wide enough for one rotation ecnoucnter?

kindred sorrel
#

double slab, double seal, and double hot kit are all viable builds

storm oar
kindred sorrel
#

(for p4+)

glad cloud
#

what's the best purple gear for laeva?

storm oar
#

i forgot what the term is

summer flower
#

I'm considering truning off gear production

neat snow
#

Wouldn't hurt to have like 20k components

storm oar
#

Xiarnite Components

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Mmkay

summer flower
#

Cause it going all the time goes faster than i get credits

#

Bills*

storm oar
#

Is it worth artificing the other characters in laev team

peak void
#

i have 10k comp and i still want more

storm oar
#

like ardelia

peak void
#

not like i need more batteries anw

kindred sorrel
#

depends

neat snow
#

You need to artifice wulfs ult gain

kindred sorrel
#

if you want to do 7x laeva eb per ult, you need wulf ult charge artifices

storm oar
#

Well I feel like Wulf is gonna get yeeted from the team relatively quick no, I was avoiding investing too much into him

peak void
kindred sorrel
#

wulf has too much heat application to be easily replaced

neat snow
#

We wouldn't know for a couple months on replacements

daring dove
#

Does anyone know Akekuri’s ult gain breakpoints btw?

kindred sorrel
#

its unlikely he'll be replaed any time soon

storm oar
summer flower
#

Ake? Nope

neat snow
#

Yes by a higher grade sp char

summer flower
#

Antal yea

neat snow
#

If it exists in the future

peak void
summer flower
#

Man, people will use ake and ake *+

#

You know they'll

#

And then they'll be posting DMG numbers for operator claiming how good it is

daring dove
#

At high investment Akekuri is a lot better than Wulfguard. But then Wulfguard does a fantastic job at level 60 with a level 1 weapon so it’s kind of a pick your poison situation.

summer flower
#

While its being carried by both ake and her higher rarity equivalent

neat snow
#

It's about the whole team in the end

daring dove
#

Whales will be replacing Wulfguard before Akekuri if we get another heat support for the team. F2P’s will likely drop Akekuri first though.

kindred sorrel
#

i want to replace wulfgard with a cute waifu too pensivewobble

neat snow
#

Just put him in a skirt

kindred sorrel
#

but his heat application doesnt seem easily replaced any time soon

brisk pecan
#

imagine his replacement is just rossi

kindred sorrel
#

if they force rossi to just be a heat slave for laeva, im sure lots of people would complain lol

#

pretty sure most lo rossi mains want her to be main dps

daring dove
brisk pecan
#

🤔

#

imagine rossi replaces surt

kindred sorrel
#

i mean, she'll just be an alternative playstyle to surtr

#

same as last rite, or any other main dps

#

supports like wulfgard are different though

brisk pecan
#

fair enough

kindred sorrel
#

where he's literally just a heat slave for laeva

neat snow
#

Feelsbad

peak void
daring dove
terse furnace
#

Wait wtf, you can get 4 nodes on an essence?

brisk pecan
#

ye

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i got a 4/1/3 or something the other day

mystic halo
#

you can gamble for 4/4/3 start if you want

terse furnace
neat snow
#

I always get high stats when I don't use engraving ticket

daring dove
brisk pecan
#

wait isn't the max 663

daring dove
#

Yeah mb so will be 4/4/3

kindred sorrel
#

i was just saying if she was released as a main dps, she'd just be another playstyle like any other main dps, not a direct replacement for laeva

daring dove
#

He’s making assumptions based off how Last Rite & Yvonne interact with each other. But honestly Yvonne just seems like a poorly thought out release. I doubt they’ll repeat it with the fire team. If they care about making money they’ll release new limited characters for the fire team that add to it for a while. Not replacing the one 80% of the players just pulled for.

#

That’s just a way to alienate your player base

kindred sorrel
#

theres only so many elements, eventually the dps of "main" damage dealers will be the same, doesnt mean they'll be in the same team

brisk pecan
#

fellow crush enjoyers

#

is there an argument for stacking arts intensity instead of phys damage and stuff

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or is the damage trade off when not crushing not worth it

ocean hawk
#

who have bilibili account?, I need help to check some comments for battery optimizer research

naive ice
twilit quail
#

it depends on who

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da pan is a good aethertech user so he can

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but it's not good on endmin

brisk pecan
#

the crush doers so panda/endmin

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oh why is it not good?

peak void
#

endmin has their ult that doesnt crush

lone tapir
#

Hello does art reactions (such as solidification) scales off arts dmg dealt ?

twilit quail
#

ult becomes a bigger% of endmin damage as their level increases

peak void
#

so if you stack arts int, her ult just dies

twilit quail
#

and not a good aethertech user

brisk pecan
#

ah fair enough

peak void
#

its like

brisk pecan
#

swordmancer it is ig

peak void
#

yes your skill might be better

#

but ult 😢

brisk pecan
#

counterpoint you use the skill more kinda

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unless running ult gain (?)

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like say atm i can crush every 16s

peak void
#

running a regular build benefits skill and ult so

brisk pecan
#

mm alright then

peak void
#

yeap

drifting quest
#

Swordmancer bug got fixed no

peak void
#

what was it

drifting quest
#

Only worked for on field unit

peak void
#

wow thats ass

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idk i dont notice it

#

i just pray it works

twilit quail
#

the off field unit's swordmancer damage

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is still displayed in tiny low alpha gray letters

#

so it's hard to see

#

it works

#

but it's easy to be convinced that it doesnt

rustic knoll
#

what chest to use ?

drifting quest
#

Frontiers one with sec att %

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Should be best

lone tapir
#

Hello does anyone know if art reactions (such as solidification) scales off arts dmg dealt ? If not is there any resources where I can find this info ?

grave flame
drifting quest
#

Xir buffs more if no other xir holder

modest thorn
#

Has anyone gotten the trimmed medals without pulling?

civic wolf
#

about the spreadsheet

if its not indicated that you need to artifice an ult gain speed gear, deos that mean that the ult gain artifice is optionaL?

#

i kinda had been doing these for Ardelia and wulf and i think i might've accidentally invested on something that's not needed LOL

#

i just went 'ult gain good'

peak void
#

idk abt ardelia since her ult is just healing

#

but wulf ult gain is good for more heat app

#

tho not something to prioritize

modest thorn
#

@drifting quest Do u happen to have a video or smth

#

My friends trying to do it but he’s struggling

drifting quest
#

I can give it another look when im home later

#

Chen endmin perlica wulf

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Trimmed at least 2/3

modest thorn
#

Oh gotcha thanks

#

Which one did u miss?

#

Triaggelos?

daring dove
#

Fidget spinner is the only difficult one, mostly because he spends so much time effectively immune to damage.

drifting quest
#

I didnt do it

#

Bilibili clears

brisk pecan
#

does not pulling include not weapons pulling?

#

if yes i gotta see this too 🙏

modest thorn
#

Yeah no weapon pulling either

twilit quail
#

I would like to get to a state eventually where I can pin down a threshold for everything

#

but that's too much effort

#

honestly

drifting quest
#

I have ake and wulf ones

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I can grab later

#

I need to do xaihi ones too

#

Someone asked

twilit quail
#

no i mean

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for every rotation

#

that those chars are on

#

and that's like

#

you know

#

annoying

peak void
#

guys

#

is fluffed jincao powder actually the goat

drifting quest
#

I dont have some of the more meme rots

peak void
#

and i should ditch my garden fried rice

twilit quail
#

I suppose ake has the magic number of like

#

220ish

#

with fortmaker

#

where you will get it basically everywhere on all teams

drifting quest
#

Nor ake ones for anything but laev

#

Nor ake ones for anything but laev

#

But yeah ake can just grab every source and be happy

peak void
#

i heard fluffed jincao is guaranteed to drop at least once per plot

#

but idk if its true

twilit quail
#

1 or 3 each time

brisk pecan
#

why u doubting us 😭

peak void
#

but basically guaranteed right

#

lemon go away 😭

#

u dont need to see me like this

#

im asking literally everyone i know for ts

brisk pecan
#

ok fair carry on

edgy crater
peak void
#

uses bottles

#

waste of ore

edgy crater
#

ok fair Naruhodo

twilit quail
#

the powder is like 5% worse than the bottle

#

so like

#

you know

peak void
#

yea

#

just dodge 5% better

drifting quest
#

Using healing meds mimimi

#

4 more stew meeting

peak void
#

raaaaaaahhhh

gloomy delta
#

Is Gilberta's sig worth pulling for? Was always skeptical about support sigs in Gacha

peak void
#

you save on sp which is pretty big imo

gloomy delta
#

Vs main dps stuff who deal most of the damage

twilit quail
#

it's good but stanza will do the job most of the time

#

stanza is

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well

#

it's stanza

peak void
#

stanza 😢

#

my child will run oblivion on perlica

twilit quail
#

stanza is not even really worse than the sig if I am being completely honest

gloomy delta
drifting quest
#

Every arts unit and vg sig vs stanza thermite

civic wolf
#

if you have Gilberta on Lae team do you need to do a Gilberta skill on the rotation?

#

instead of starting with Ake Wulf you got Gilberta Wulf?

drifting quest
#

If you dont get 2+ lift on sig it just kinda gets owned by stanza

#

Even then high pot stanza wins

gloomy delta
#

Zamn ok, I only knew atk boost is better in Endfield, didn't think it was so good as to gap a sig

drifting quest
#

Stanza generally more uptime too, esp since some teams dont even proc sig

drifting quest
#

Nothingburger

gloomy delta
#

Crazy

peak void
#

maybe atp im pulling gilberta sig just to save my stanza for someone else

#

we need to delete stanza

twilit quail
#

ok anyway the new sheet is done

civic wolf
#

do you use gilbera skill on lae rotation or nah not really?

summer flower
#

So should avyenna should have ult gain right?

#

Its like her skill basically is what usually would be ultimate

#

Ultimate stacks spears for high damage per screenshot on skill

crude estuary
# lone tapir Hello does anyone know if art reactions (such as solidification) scales off arts...

Mostly yes, but not completely
Art dmg dealt is just a combined buff of Heat/Cryo/Electric/Nature dmg dealt
the dmg dealt by arts reactions is of one of those types, and thus provits from it
however for solidification in particular this only applies to the instance of dmg when the status is applied, the shatter dmg when it is removed is physical dmg, and thus does not profit from it.

civic wolf
#

what specific knolwedge?????

lone tapir
remote fern
#

Are we ever going to get a way to get multiple copies of standard banner characters outside of 50-50 losses on rate up?

mystic halo
#

GIGACHAD

drifting berry
#

Does Yvonne use Basic ATK DMG % from MI Security chest and gloves increase Yvonne ult damage?

twilit quail
#

we use two pieces of basic% on yvonne's best current set

mystic halo
#

I love slab man

drifting quest
#

Slabge

drifting berry
#

Yeah, just wanted to make sure because for some reason the alternatives most of the time don't even match the stats, so I was asuming it was because there were no better options available.

twilit quail
#

well you are kind of correct about the no better options part

civic wolf
#

I mean, I can get it but...

#

not sure how good are permasigs actually are

#

Iron Lung Last Rite vs Navigator Yvonne, whos actually worse off

twilit quail
#

it's last rite

#

by a long shot

foggy birch
#

Whats the optimal rotation for this team?

drifting quest
#

it depends ™

civic wolf
twilit quail
#

it depends

civic wolf
#

assuming min luck

drifting quest
#

200

#

a bit less rather

edgy crater
#

average like 380-400 arsenal/10 pull

drifting quest
#

160 ignoring 6*'s
~100 with 1 6 star only so worst luck

brisk pecan
#

just get 3 six-stars in a row and you're g

drifting quest
#

that'd to it for cheap

civic wolf
#

wow thats stupid.

#

actually between Yvonne sig and LR sig

#

LR sig?

drifting quest
#

yes

#

gap between artzy and wedge or navi is less than khrave

#

and other options for lr

#

beyond just last rite being yvonne if she were good

civic wolf
#

punches number into the calc

#

110 pulls to regain 6k arsenal tickets

#

all for a stupid 25% chance of sig

#

ridicilous.