theorycrafting

[sudden sparrow]

when something like perlica's combo skill forcibly applies an arts reaction, does it have the same numbers as if it consumed 1 infliction stack?

[bitter nebula]

ahhh i see, I'm slowly learning physical

i need lifeng signature tho T-T

[lime nacelle]

No you don't!

[bitter nebula]

but i don't have any good Spear

[summer flower]

Nothin?

Oof

[bitter nebula]

i have

uh

what is called

[valid zealot]

Valiant?

[summer flower]

Valiant seems fine

[bitter nebula]

chimericc

5*

[valid zealot]

Man.

[summer flower]

Ohh

Isn't that like ice spear?

[drifting quest]

@bronze plume
Rough napkin math, take with a pinch of salt

Stanza P5 - 49.92%
3 Lift Sig - 49.66%
Stanza P4 - 47.32%
Stanza P3 - 46.02%
2 Lift Sig - 45.86%
Stanza P2 - 44.23%
Stanza P1 - 43.41%
Stanza P0 - 42.11%
1 Lift Sig - 42.07%
No Sig, No Stanza - 0% (baseline)

Shorter comparison
Stanza P5 - 49.92%
Stanza P0 - 42.11%
1 Lift Sig - 42.07%

YMMV in reality based on difference in potentials on other chars, gear, artificing progress, yada yada

L90 Avy, L90 Jet p0
max artifice, max essence
p5 ww, p0 avy, no buffs other than weapons considered for perlica arclight gilb because im lazy
only calced for skill with 2 spears, 1 ex spear
assumed uptime on all buffs at once including 3p bonekrusha and then naturally assuming 3p bonekrusha + pulser gloves

tldr close enough you can go for either but stanza is ahead marginally

[valid zealot]

Use ult bot Lifeng

[bitter nebula]

?_?

[valid zealot]

The pin build

But the off piece also take ult regen.

[bronze plume]

yeah imma just stick with stanza

and not use the limited pulls on yvonnes banner

w mat hthx

[drifting quest]

odds are stanza is more favoured with more accurate calcs anyway

at least for current electric

super stc obviously

[bitter nebula]

the one in the sheet u mean?

[valid zealot]

Yeah

I suppose I can learn one thing or two from Avy chugging stew meeting under rhod fatass.

[woeful plume]

does ult gain of delivery not do anything

[bitter nebula]

in ur opinion, should i max E4 lv 90 all pg in Leav team before starting with physical?

[drifting quest]

it does but basically impossible to calc for

[valid zealot]

No.

[drifting quest]

at least not in any amount of time i have to spare

[bitter nebula]

rn i have like, everyone E3 lv80 except laev E4 lv 90

[valid zealot]

Ehh

Don't.

[bitter nebula]

waste?

[valid zealot]

Ake and Arde mastery gain something so prob not "waste" waste.

Just not worth atm.

[late swallow]

you know which gacha someone plays by how they say dupes

[ripe parrot]

I left everyone at 60

anything past that is pretty overkill

[bitter nebula]

i play limbus, wtf is a dupe? 🔥

[valid zealot]

210 sp ake ult juicy.

Not for me tho

Me poor.

[ripe parrot]

this season's dupe is next season's threadspinning

[bitter nebula]

HELL YEAH NOW WE'RE TALKING A LANGUAGE I KNOW

[bitter nebula]

mastery on leav skill?

i mean, nah or kinda?

[valid zealot]

Fine.

[dapper mason]

i saw someone m3 every wulf skill after done with lae

[drifting quest]

[dapper mason]

i want to say something to him but i keep it

[ripe parrot]

if they're your friend you need to say something

friends don't let friends level wulf skills

[quartz flame]

i played azur lane for 4 years
where you get cubes faster than they release characters and dupes dont matter because you only need to roll a character once and use free everything-dupes

[ripe parrot]

unless he's based and also does wulf dps

[dapper mason]

no its from team build chat

[bitter nebula]

that's kinda based

[ripe parrot]

i thought about wulf main dps for a bit but i ended up with chen because well

i think the answer is pretty obvious

also chen is probably the most fun to play solo

[bitter nebula]

swords >>> guns

[ripe parrot]

i love playing chen

there wasn't much skill expression in wulfgard dps sadly

[bitter nebula]

she's very smart, after all :D

[quartz flame]

ember solo is more reactive with the parry-ish mechanic

[eternal ruin]

spend 300 coolant gel to get twilight to 3 or spend 240 to get 1 stage in both int and attack?

[quartz flame]

twilight 3

[ripe parrot]

ember solo is lit

[eternal ruin]

also, should i get essences for my supports or artifice my main dps first?

[ripe parrot]

main dps probably

are you phys team

[eternal ruin]

nah laev team

[ripe parrot]

then slap purple cope essences on your other people

and never think about them ever again

[eternal ruin]

haha alright

[quartz flame]

physical players suffer in the essence mines

[drifting quest]

artificing and essences can be done at the same time

[ripe parrot]

if you already have a perfect laev essence you can stop using engravings

to save on wuling bucks

[eternal ruin]

yeah i have perfect laev essence

[ripe parrot]

if you want to transition to any other team in the future i would consider looking at The Chart(tm) and lock any potential essences you need

[eternal ruin]

umbral monument is 1 team, right?

[ripe parrot]

yes

[quartz flame]

fortmaker has been making me cry for several days

[ripe parrot]

on the bright side the people who use fortmaker don't really need all 3 stats

so 2/3 is good enough

[quartz flame]

true i got an ult+3 purple

[eternal ruin]

RNG was kind to me for laev's essence

[ripe parrot]

after I'm done with M12 chen I might do full DPS pog setup next

if only because it's funny

[quartz flame]

pog solo

[green cedar]

I need some factory giga brains for a question. How many machines can 1 pump power and does the 2 unit flow rate of a pipe bottleneck me in any way?

[quartz flame]

do i swap to my inspiring+3 or keep the ult+3 on fortmaker

probably swap

[ripe parrot]

1. thermal banks?
2. yes if you are runnning 2x xiranite but uh go to #aic-factory that's more relevant

not sure what you really mean by pump power

[ripe parrot]

is this on akekuri or pog

[quartz flame]

pog

[ripe parrot]

depends on which set you're running with gear probably

[quartz flame]

i swapped

[late swallow]

any linkie links?

[quartz flame]

208 intensity pog

very nice

[ripe parrot]

sir i just posted the image right after

[dapper mason]

he prob asking about water pump where water flow decrease every pipe water splitter use

[warm galleon]

I wanna try playing the game as tank main
I'm thinking of ice+physical with snow as main controlled unit with mc as dps.
Who would be the two fillers?

[green cedar]

Like, how many machines can 1 pump fill? If I throw more pumps at a single pipe does that help or does the 2 unit flow rate of a pipe bottleneck me anyways?

[dapper mason]

3 at most. use only 1 pipe splitter for every water pump

[river scroll]

how much dmg increase does link buff actually give?

like Akekuri ult

[eternal ruin]

i assume #1 priority for artificing for laevatain is her chestpiece?

gives the most stats

also ult gain

[ripe parrot]

could you possibly do a shatter team?

maybe chen + estella?

dunno sounds clunky lol

[warm galleon]

Yah that's what MC will do since the other two limited force swap when ulting

I was first thinking of playing as healer main but i notice that

[dapper mason]

do we have number here ? i also want to know

[warm galleon]

Controlled unit usually has the aggro like 90 of the time.

[ripe parrot]

i feel like the proposed team is really sp hungry

[river scroll]

i don't know, that is why I'm asking

[frigid vector]

30/45/60/75 for bskill

[eternal ruin]

or should i artifice battle skill or heat damage dealt?

[frigid vector]

depending on link stacks

[ripe parrot]

and was it 20/25 on first lin k stack for ult?

[river scroll]

wait 30% dmg increase Buff? is that multiplication or addition on dmg% buff?

[drifting quest]

multiplicative

[frigid vector]

multiplicative, and yeah ult begins at 20 as it's lower

[ripe parrot]

multi i believe

it's in its own pool

[river scroll]

wtf that is more OP than i thought

[frigid vector]

it's 20/30/40/50 for ultimate

[ripe parrot]

link is pretty gud

[dapper mason]

gud men

[frigid vector]

insanely busted buff

[eternal ruin]

also someone here said lynx slab isn't good for laevatain even at high investment, is that true?

[ripe parrot]

lifeng be like i have become wrath

[frigid vector]

it's niche, it works on ardelia teams but without her rotations ideally want to make use of tide

although I've seen some crazy double lynx tide builds going around I can't speak for them 😔

[eternal ruin]

ok at least i haven't wasted my investment on my tidefall armor

[ripe parrot]

it's just very clunky to use because you're effectively throwing out an entire ult charge cycle for more main stat

[eternal ruin]

which line(s) of her gear should i be artificing first?

[drifting quest]

the double slab ones are no better than single slab

[frigid vector]

tide is a very good pick generally if only for its ult gain efficiency a lot of characters can make use of it

[eternal ruin]

int?

[drifting quest]

super niche, unpractical rots, minor damage gain outside of high pots x2

[dapper mason]

i see 7k attack stat but only 400k dmg on marble orb

[frigid vector]

never found the rots to be impractical with slab, just that it's only for ardelia and single target

if you end up running gil or you have ake in the team

the lack of ult gain ends up being an issue

[drifting quest]

the extra skills/combo just tend to make things get worse with time

[eternal ruin]

some people are saying to artifice int first, some say heat/battle skill dmg

[drifting quest]

each one gets pushed back more and more until you're 3 to 4 ults behind and lost a ton of damage

[frigid vector]

not that big a problem when endgame right now is bossing, but with the 2-phase marble allowing for setup and "true" endgame in umbral being mixed tide just ends up being better

[eternal ruin]

or how about even ult gain artifice

[frigid vector]

ult gain on artifice is worth doing only up until you have breakpoints

it doesn't matter how much you have if you're already getting enough from your rotations

[eternal ruin]

okay so what do i artifice then

i would do them all at once but i have limited stock bills

[frigid vector]

have you maxed out pyrometer bskill dmg for one?

that's used in almost every build other than p4

[eternal ruin]

no i haven't, i'll do that

thanks

[frigid vector]

you can also just get a redeemer seal

and artifice that since a lot of chars build pure ult gain rate

can't go wrong with boosting it

honestly it feels a bit early to be pushing for very high artifices

watch one of the 1.1 or 1.2 characters bringing across new build opportunities and it all gets flipped on its head anyways

still super early days as people are figuring out builds

you can't skimp on sanity as you have to spend it but artificing is something you can stock

[ripe parrot]

yeah i'm kind of holding back myself on my main account

since i'm still speculating on a lot of things

i'm so close to greatness

[frigid vector]

holy

[lime nacelle]

And uhm...

And her weapon?

[ripe parrot]

not going so great

[lime nacelle]

Disaster...

Everyone says that's her best weapon.

[quartz flame]

now watch as tangtang is a perfect upgrade from chen

[ripe parrot]

unless she has perfect skill anim cancels she'll never be chen

[lime nacelle]

But this is the sword she likes the most.

[ripe parrot]

🤮

[lime nacelle]

I'm gonna be legit mad if Tangtang ends up being a Chen replacement.

[ripe parrot]

dude censor that image

that's disgusting

[lime nacelle]

Nuh uh.

This is the weapon for her.

[frigid vector]

use her sig because it looks the best

transmog will never come but if only

[ripe parrot]

sig is unironically good for solo clears

i kinda envy those with rapid ascent

because it would've made rhod a little bit easier

[desert spire]

wolfguard should work with rossi whenever she releases

in most games the siblings dont really have synergy

so i hope endfield have those

[dapper mason]

lupa gang

[ripe parrot]

maybe one day full pack synergy team

[desert spire]

yas

and maybe collabs with other gachas

that would be peak

[ripe parrot]

ngl i don't love it when games do collabs because it usually is jarring and takes away from the setting

only one i liked was r6 collab with the OG arknights because the story was surprisingly well thought out and good

[desert spire]

for some reason i had this fantasy where hsr and endfield could work together

like the astral express could land on talos 2

[ripe parrot]

also dude why am i always out of protohedrons

why does it take 50 of them to m3

every time

[desert spire]

also i really loved the fact that different faction speak different language

i know the og arknight had that but its still cool

[ripe parrot]

it goes pretty hard yeah

i love the cultural diversity

[desert spire]

i love the accents

even wuwa does the accents

and i love it

more gacha should integrate cultural diversity

[drifting quest]

it was one of the benefits out of the whole va strike drama

[ripe parrot]

you know i never put two and two together

but that's kinda funny to think about

[drifting quest]

companies dont hire american studios as much = get more variety from other studios

[dapper mason]

i feel like 3.1 rover voice is different or only me

[quartz flame]

cant wait for endfield to collab with arknights

[drifting quest]

arknights should get some furniture for it

[quartz flame]

surtr would probably synergize great with laev

[drifting quest]

same way we got some from ex astris

[desert spire]

lmao perfect way to bring it to pc

[ripe parrot]

so arknights IS going to be on gryphline at some point right?

gryphlink, you know what i meant

[desert spire]

wait og isnt by hyperghline?

[ripe parrot]

it is

[desert spire]

og arknight

mb

[ripe parrot]

it also is

same devs different studio division iirc

[desert spire]

ohh i see

also is endfield in theh future of og arknight

or a spin off

in the future setting

[ripe parrot]

very far future

[desert spire]

so the og arknight mc is long dead

[amber vapor]

The Dijiang definitely should have a recreational center that you can build furniture in

[desert spire]

and nothing is left of them

[ripe parrot]

also

[drifting quest]

maybe ™

[ripe parrot]

why are the dijiang furniture display things not in the reception room

[drifting quest]

its implied that the endministrator is connected to the doctor (arknights protagonist) but to what degree is unknown

some allies from arknights (e.g. warfarin, at least 1 sui sibling, etc) should appear in endfield too

mon3tr is also here

a current deuteragonist

[midnight stirrup]

Bro

Emiya is dead?

[amber vapor]

M3 is a tactical and covert op so I definitely expect to see her in the climax of the Wuling arc

[ripe parrot]

rhodes island has some inherent connection to endmin based off of file lore too

are rare growths 24 hours to a full refresh?

[midnight stirrup]

Longer I think

[ripe parrot]

me waiting for fucking twelve jadeleaves

[midnight stirrup]

Cultivate them in ur ship

Still slow

But its extra income overall

[granite lily]

Are these worth upgrading or should it have 3?

[ripe parrot]

culivating them is bad for me

because they grow in intervals of 3 and i need 12

[midnight stirrup]

Needs 3

[ripe parrot]

they take like 80 hours to grow

so i'm only delaying myself more

[midnight stirrup]

I mean yeah

But it pays off over longer periods of time

[ripe parrot]

yes but after this i won't need jadeleaves

for the next like month

[midnight stirrup]

Esp since they only regen every 48h

[ripe parrot]

i think they regen faster than 48

[daring dove]

Use the one with +3 attack for now but don't upgrade you can only farm the ATK% one in Wulling for Laevatain sadly.

[midnight stirrup]

Still a good idea to prepare them

[ripe parrot]

um, not really?

[midnight stirrup]

Idk the exact time but its not 24

[ripe parrot]

at least not for me

[midnight stirrup]

Wdym not really

Ur gonna pull more chars no

[ripe parrot]

keep in mind I'm going to M12 chen and then this account is boxed

no I won't

[midnight stirrup]

Why

[ripe parrot]

alt account

[granite lily]

Should I put ATK or Twilight as pre engrave?

[ripe parrot]

i went broke on originium going for p5 chen

[midnight stirrup]

Souka

[daring dove]

+3 ATK is likely better just because of how ATK% scaling works rn.

[granite lily]

Was wondering bc the battle pass asks for +9 weapon skill level

[ripe parrot]

don't rush that it's like 800 exp

just get it normally over time

[granite lily]

But you need Twilight on it to count or not?

[daring dove]

Also how much ult gain is too much ult gain on Gilberta, I reckon 250% is possible with her.

[ripe parrot]

i don't really remember properly because i didn't do the calcs but isn't the next breakpoint kinda far for gilb

[magic stream]

Best set for wulfguard in lae team?

[ripe parrot]

[midnight stirrup]

Benben you should know better by now

[ripe parrot]

no everyone gets like 5 free pinned comment questions before we turn them into fillet

[magic stream]

I cant access the spreadsheet

[ripe parrot]

it's... public?

i just checked in an incognito tab and it's accessible

[midnight stirrup]

I mean im sure hes aware its public

[midnight stirrup]

Probably a personal thing why its not working

[magic stream]

"Problem with file"

[ripe parrot]

are you on mobile

[magic stream]

Uhuh

[midnight stirrup]

@magic stream

There u go

[magic stream]

Sankyu

[daring dove]

The problem I have now, is I have no idea which support weapon to focus my essence upgrades on. Extra intellect on Ardelia seems kinda pointless. Extra ATK on Akekuri why? Maybe more ultimate gain on Gilberta? That or just stop an start building a second DPS'es Essence instead?

[magic stream]

Is it the t1 green cubes or

[next helm]

You can keep the essences for later

[drifting quest]

ult gain is the only thing left worth doing for

but idk if it hits a breakpoint

i havent checked gilb breakpoints myself yet

[midnight stirrup]

Uh

[next helm]

Someone said around 197

[magic stream]

Ult gain or cr

[next helm]

but breakpoints when

[modest thorn]

no not the t1 one

[midnight stirrup]

It mentions it on the cube

ER

[magic stream]

Am I blind

[modest thorn]

regular one with ultimate gain efficiency

[magic stream]

Thanks!

[midnight stirrup]

@magic stream

[magic stream]

What does that symbol mean

[midnight stirrup]

ER

The brain is will

[daring dove]

I'm already 216 without Ult gain chest piece. That or any armor upgrades. Maybe more like 270+ is the most possible.

[midnight stirrup]

Etc etc

[modest thorn]

what is ER btw

[midnight stirrup]

Energy recharge

[next helm]

Energy recharge

[magic stream]

[midnight stirrup]

Its good to know for reading the guide

Makes things easier

[drifting quest]

(ult gain efficiency) = charge = energy recharge

[next helm]

I am assume if you artifice kits you can drop glove slot too but I am not smart so..

[midnight stirrup]

That

[next helm]

Or drop a kit slot for something else

[modest thorn]

also anyone have the math on obj vs clannibal on wulf?

[magic stream]

Whys he using lynx gloves

Ima just

Trust the process

[drifting quest]

max artificing clannibal technically can minmax but you still never get to use its active in any realistic or practical rot so it doesnt matter

obj + a cheap essence reduces the artificing requirement

[eternal ruin]

so close but out of stamina for today

[midnight stirrup]

No clue

What shuo said

[modest thorn]

finally got her essence today

[midnight stirrup]

But the guide is wip

[drifting quest]

lynx gloves better stats than xiranite

same ult gain

that simple

[midnight stirrup]

A lot of changes have been made over the weeks

So keep that in mind

[drifting quest]

get that minor attack% increase

lurking mod

caught

[midnight stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-raccoon-absolute-cinema-gif-17862327649353748812

Mods are fast af in this server

[drifting quest]

i love this server it is very cool and nice and we would never misbehave

[ripe parrot]

anybody love crafting theories in here??

[drifting quest]

quite misleading how theorycrafting became the term for it

[midnight stirrup]

I mean

At its core it is

But im glad we can have other convos in here too

Within boundaries

[frigid vector]

each channel is its own sub-community at this point

not like I can comment tbh, I only talk here

[normal tangle]

nah, #theorycrafting and #team-build are like the same people

or at least a lot of overlap

#help and #aic-factory are entirely different beasts though

[drifting quest]

id hope tc isnt the same as tb

seems pretty consistent when i go one channel up that there's a lot of things that are

less than ideal advice

[ripe parrot]

i love how destitute the rest of my phys team is compared to chen

[drifting quest]

best girl gets the gear

[ripe parrot]

sorry lifeng the best i can do is unartificed xiranite plus the tutorial artificed security push knife

[drifting quest]

funny how they forced us to artifice a crit set piece

[daring dove]

Ok so Gilberta's sig is just addative to your other Nature damage bonuses types interestingly enough though it buffs all nature damage on a character.

[midnight stirrup]

Idk about all that

[normal tangle]

i see yall in there like all the time wdym

[midnight stirrup]

Chen trim when

[midnight stirrup]

Yea we there rarely

[daring dove]

For Laevatain for example she's already a bit heat damage saturated.

[midnight stirrup]

Not the other way around

[ripe parrot]

chen trimmed yesterday

[midnight stirrup]

Record the fight smh

[ripe parrot]

I DID

[midnight stirrup]

Show me

[normal tangle]

lowkey team build channel is just a bunch of chat gpt bots parroting the same 4 characters over and over again

it's just google but worse

[normal tangle]

"hey what team" "laeva ake wulf ardelia"

over and over agian

[ripe parrot]

there are you happy

[midnight stirrup]

No

[frigid vector]

unfathomably based

[drifting quest]

somniomancer

goated

[dapper mason]

i love it here, getting advice with numbers convince me better

[midnight stirrup]

Jokes aside tho well done

Marble next?

[ripe parrot]

aguahggghhhhhhhhhh

maybe

better than triagg i guess

i HATE triagg

[modest thorn]

whats ur time on them if you've tried them

thats crazy tho lol

[ripe parrot]

i haven't timed them seriously yet

i did no hit first

but no hit on triagg made me want to endmin myself

chen just can't kill mobs well

[midnight stirrup]

ZZZ Chen

[ripe parrot]

since her only good aoe is CS

[frigid vector]

damn im absolutely gonna steal endmin self

[midnight stirrup]

who is this fine shyt

[plush spoke]

On the pinned guide it says last rite isn't worth building if you don't get her sig, how true is that?

[normal tangle]

dwight manfredi

[daring dove]

Anyway I finally decided to give the fidget spinner another go he was insanely easy this time to complete the trim collection.

[neat snow]

Good job

[lunar sleet]

Does running combo dmg on Endmin affect the orig explosion dmg, or just the base hit?

[modest thorn]

whats the 4th rainbow one?

[daring dove]

Ultimate weapon, 25 essence upgrades on weapon. I think you need a weapon with a few potentials to complete it?

But 5* weapon would be fine.

[dapper mason]

atleast p3 right ?

[daring dove]

Yeah sounds about right

[neat snow]

Something like that

[modest thorn]

oh gotcha

[ripe parrot]

pretty true. the modifier on bonechilling is big

[plush spoke]

damn, i only have about 8k arsenal tickets, cant afford to drop anymore on krav, and still have good odds on getting tangtangs guns

[outer ermine]

did u get the drop slugs off cliff medal

[daring dove]

Don't think so

[plush spoke]

i invested decently into last rite before i saw that she wouldnt be worth it without her sig lol, at least i didnt push her past level 9 on any of her skills i guess

[sinful mesa]

should I commit to artificing laevatain's max charge build? is it her best build or nah

[modest thorn]

i saw someone post this
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RX2Vj1jNvL9jufxHD0w1mT2u3GS4n7yplb15phZgpVw/edit?tab=t.0

what do yall think? it also runs laeva/antal/akekuri/ardelia over wulf

[daring dove]

If you're only P0/PO then other than it feeling better to play the Ult gain build the damage difference isn't really a gain.

Ult gain build makes the most sense once you get a few potentials on the weapon & Laevatain.

[neat snow]

I'm just using 76.5% ult gain and it's quite nice. Being p5p5 I have a ton of damage still.

[sinful mesa]

so with a p0 laev with only p0 sig, assuming say rhodagn boss, is max artificed charge build a dps gain (even slightly) over her standard max artificed hot works tide fall build or is it just comfort?

i havent done any artificing on laev gear yet because i wanna see what the consensus is after a few weeks of laev testing

[lunar sleet]

Does running combo dmg on Endmin affect the orig explosion dmg, or just the base hit? D:

[boreal coral]

Prob gotta wait for umbral. I haven’t seen any definitive results between lae’s best gear sets

[daring dove]

It's mostly just comfort, it makes sense mainly when you get stuff like P4 Laevatain & P2+ weapon. As then you start thinking. Do I want the 150% damage bonus when I ult more versus the 50% damage bonus off hot works. When everything is PO you're only getting 105% damage bonus when you ult which has a lower uptime than hot work bonus. So they kind of counter balance each other.

That said, Ult gain is more fun to play.

But it also takes a bigger commiment.

Because at P0, you need 107% ult gain.

Which means you need to max the ult gain on every single piece except chest.

[midnight stirrup]

Oh my god im so dumb

[sinful mesa]

ok ty, ill commit to it then cuz building laev ult is annoying having to do 2 enhanced skill and i just want laev to be more comfy in overworld then

i thought it was a dps loss

[midnight stirrup]

I didnt realise there was a good match system with artificing

No wonder I kept failing

[dry kindle]

[midnight stirrup]

Just unlocked all the gear recipes for next time

[midnight stirrup]

Actual imbecile me is

[midnight stirrup]

Sugoi

[modest thorn]

wait how do you get a good match lmfao

[boreal coral]

Only works for the off-stats on most pieces. Doesn’t save a whole lot so you didn’t waste too much

[frozen tide]

shes almost maxxed

[dapper mason]

bro really want that amp

[daring dove]

Yeah it's worth it from the comfort standpoint, you know all the correct pieces yeah?

[frozen tide]

i just need 3 deto units

[sinful mesa]

i am following the pinned spreadsheet build

[midnight stirrup]

It not just for offstats

You can use the non set pieces too

Theyre usually higher stats cause they dont offer special passives or double stats

[frozen tide]

690 is max int you can get on xai

im getting ts

[midnight stirrup]

Btw

[daring dove]

It's this just to be clear.

[midnight stirrup]

What happened to det on Xaihi

Is it not good anymore

[frozen tide]

its still bis

[boreal coral]

True, ive only been building the ult set for most of my characters so I had to brute force most of my pieces

[frozen tide]

just not as good as it used to be

[midnight stirrup]

Oh okay

Btw Schling

[frozen tide]

it used to be int main stat secondary percent

[midnight stirrup]

We used off piece chest with INT on Xaihi right

[frozen tide]

now its will main

[midnight stirrup]

Not 3p frontier

[frozen tide]

ye

[midnight stirrup]

Any reccs?

[frozen tide]

doesnt matter too much ig i just use tide fall

[midnight stirrup]

Same

Okay good

[frozen tide]

since she already hits ult bp might be technically more optimal to wear a piece that gives dmg

but i cba

go from 0.1 percent dmg to 0.103 percent

or smth

[midnight stirrup]

She aint no Xiangling

Fuck giving her dmg

[daring dove]

Ult gain Laevatain ATK with Akekuri + Food buff.

[boreal coral]

Missing 8 intellect

[daring dove]

You try my gear upgrade rng

[frozen tide]

9 more to go

chop chop

i have used almost every gold too

[bitter nebula]

why the thermite cutter is better than the never rest?

the buff is better

[frozen tide]

ues

[boreal coral]

How many 6-6-3 do you have from grinding this hard?

[frozen tide]

yes

[frozen tide]

one

😭

[lime nacelle]

No, the buff is not "better". That's not it.

[daring dove]

It's amazing for every team in the game pretty much? It's upto a 28% team damage uplift.

[bitter nebula]

i mean, not better, it's just like slightly

[frozen tide]

it literally is atk percent is much more valuable than dmg percent

[daring dove]

Thermite cutter is lowkey the best weapon in the game rn.

[frozen tide]

dmg percent is heavily diluted

[bitter nebula]

oh did i misread?

[lime nacelle]

It depends. Never Rest needs the wielder to recover SP multiple times, which only Pog can do. Never Rest can stack up to 5 times, and you need to stack it 4 times to match Thermite Cutter's buff. Akekuri only recovers SP twice with her skill, which means you only end up with 2 stacks.

[sullen depot]

Are there any rotations floating around for phys teams? I see the spreadsheet says it has some coming soon, was wondering if any are already around

[lime nacelle]

Thermite Cutter stacks twice, so it's fully stacked with Akekuri's combo skill.

[bitter nebula]

no i was talking for physical tbh

[lime nacelle]

You can use Akekuri on physical teams too.

[bitter nebula]

well if you have pog

[frozen tide]

even for pog thermite is better

[bitter nebula]

so dmg% is less valuable than atk%?

[lime nacelle]

For Pog, Never Rest is only SLIGHTLY better in terms of team buffs.

[ripe parrot]

way less valuable

[frozen tide]

it is not

[ripe parrot]

they're not even in the same realm

[bitter nebula]

why?

because of resistance?

[frozen tide]

cause theres way too many sources of dmg percent

[daring dove]

Akekuri is everywhere, there's not much daylight between her & Ardelia as universal supports. Akekuri may end up being the Bennett of this game.

[frozen tide]

never rest is an acceptable substitute to thermite

[ripe parrot]

no because dmg % is effectively diluted where atk % is almost an increase in the FINAL dmg you do

[dapper mason]

if phys team. who is controlled operators ?

[frozen tide]

thermite gaps tho

[bitter nebula]

oh because increasing the atk increase the damage?

[frozen tide]

chen mostly

[dapper mason]

chen with pog ?

[bitter nebula]

mh

[frozen tide]

if you wanna be optimal when you chen ult you swap to lif probably

[bitter nebula]

so, atk% buff the total dmg?

[frozen tide]

just for the animation

[daring dove]

ATK% increases the operators base ATK on weapons in case you didn't know.

[dry kindle]

Atk%

[lime nacelle]

Because of Thermite and Frontier and SP recovery, that'll probably end up being the case. lol

[daring dove]

Base ATK is the multiplier everything else works off.

[bitter nebula]

ye i'm trying to understand

[dapper mason]

i mean phys team with pog in it. who is controlled operators ?

[bitter nebula]

more atk means more dmg

[lime nacelle]

Endmin or panda.

Though I guess... if you wanna control with Pog...

Let's see.

[bitter nebula]

and so ironically more dmg means less dmg than more atk

[dapper mason]

thats probably the answer why thermite is better than never rest. bcs we dont control pog ?

[ripe parrot]

there is a theoretical case in phys teams where you can use any of them

[bitter nebula]

who do u use?

[ripe parrot]

chen is probably the easiest answer assuming equal levels/funding

I obviously use chen because she's m11 lmao

but i am not the normal user for phys

[bitter nebula]

as active ops?

[ripe parrot]

99% of phys teams do not have a LVL90 M11 chen

[bitter nebula]

based

[lime nacelle]

Honestly as long as you're not controlling Lifeng you'll probably be good.

[ripe parrot]

even lifeng you swap in for stagger attack

[daring dove]

Look at it this way, lets say you have a pool of 400% damage, An that multiples off your base attack. Your base ATK is 1000. That means your final ATK total is 5000. Progs weapon would make your attack pool 460% damage for example meaning your final damage becomes 5600. Thermite cutter says screw the rules I'm going to buff at the source. So instead it makes your base ATK 1280 & then add your 400% damage bonus, meaning you end up with 6400 ATK instead.

If that makes sense to you.

[lime nacelle]

You mean for the Swordmancer hit?

[ripe parrot]

that and lifeng is just crazy because of passive

this is more applicable the higher your lifeng is

[lime nacelle]

I'm still not sure if the Swordmancer extra damage happens when you're not controlling character.

[daring dove]

Thermite cutter is also almost impossible to saturate rn.

So it's just massively better than all DMG% weapons.

[ripe parrot]

i'm pretty sure it does because otherwise swordmancer ardelia wouldn't exist

[daring dove]

Well not entirely true, Ardelia's weapon works a bit like Thermite cutter as well.

[ripe parrot]

maybe i'm talking out of my ass

[lime nacelle]

I think I know how to test it.

[bitter nebula]

mhmh ok, so basically one buff your pool, the other straight up the source

is like

uhm

[lime nacelle]

We'll just... eyeball the stun bar a bit.

[daring dove]

Yeah an buffing the source is far more effective than buffing the pool.

[bitter nebula]

one buffs the amount of something you can have, the other gives you more candies

[floral cosmos]

striker should i keep rolling for lifeng sig or just get valiant for him thats in the weekly shop thing? i did 2 rolls on his sig already. comp is endmin/lifeng/pog/chen

[bitter nebula]

and we like candies

so more candies = good

[amber vapor]

It Lifeng's skill and final strike didn't take so long it would be him, but the best op to control is Chen

[ripe parrot]

Also if we think about it mathematically, assume you have a 15% dmg increase and your current total dmg % is 515. You go from 515 -> 530 which is actually a ~2.9% increase in the gain.

[daring dove]

To be honest I haven't built the Phy team so I can't really comment. I don't want to mislead people by pretending I know about something I don't.

[bitter nebula]

Lifeng tho...with his double dash

i use him as my amazon corrier

[daring dove]

If you like the Phy team I'd say go for it, but I'm also a massive whale. So my funds aren't as limited as most.

[ripe parrot]

cheb 🔥

lifeng is just really valuable so you can cope with valiant and build xiranite set on him lol

[broken shale]

Even in endmin team?

[bitter nebula]

thanks for the explanation strike ^^

[ripe parrot]

also isn't lifeng's dash the same speed

[amber vapor]

Endmin's auto attacks have the slowest rotation unfortunately

[ripe parrot]

it's only pog's dash that's actually faster

[lime nacelle]

XIRANITE SET ON MY LIFENG?!

No.

[amber vapor]

Bro's last two hits in the chain are extra slow I believe

[ripe parrot]

lifeng is perfectly fine as a susc applier

[broken shale]

Hmm, noted thank you

[ripe parrot]

he just gets crazier the more you invest

[amber vapor]

If you're tryna minmax and speed run then Chen

For everything else sure use Lifeng

[broken shale]

I wish I had mountain bearer

Instead I have valiant

[ripe parrot]

pray for a weapon banner swap

[summer flicker]

ibwish mountain bearer appear in shop

[bitter nebula]

i just like his jump animation ^_^

[summer flicker]

[broken shale]

I still need to pull for angie's weapon...

[frozen tide]

i dont think it can sig weaps with own banners arent in standard rotation

[broken shale]

My luck with the weapon's is dogshit I need to hit hard pity each time

[ripe parrot]

thou shalt choose betwixt physical or gilb

[summer flicker]

hiw much diff between valiant and mountain bearer

[bitter nebula]

which weapon do u use on lifeng?

[ripe parrot]

mountain bearer

[broken shale]

According to Iana should be around 16%

[ripe parrot]

valiant if you are coping

[bitter nebula]

i don't have it T-T

[summer flicker]

i dont want to use 16k at to guarantee his sig

lmao 16%😭

[bitter nebula]

i'm trying to get it tho

[outer ermine]

[broken shale]

I think I'm gonna do gilberta since my I don't really have any upgrade mats

[amber vapor]

You honestly don't need sigs, just like you don't need max artifice and essences, to do all the content comfortably

You can still trim without em

Just you'll have a lot less wiggle room

[broken shale]

Essences I'd argue a bit

Unless you have everything level 90

Then yeah sure I agree

[frozen tide]

i want to kill me from 2 weeks ago who picked valiant instead of thermite from box

[ripe parrot]

you can do a little bit of all of the above and trim easily

[broken shale]

The opposite here

I got a thermite copy

I'm coping by giving it to ake

[ripe parrot]

it's only when you''re fully maxing things that it becomes a crazy sink in resources

[amber vapor]

Why waste sanity on essences when you can just make good food :^)

[frigid vector]

it's ok bro I picked prince cause I wanted to dps ember

😔 no regrets

[ripe parrot]

alternatively: why should i kill dogs for the rest of my life when i can make better essences

[outer ermine]

[broken shale]

Yeah I was able to trim with dogshit essences and lvl 80, although I couldn't do marble 243/240

Physical

[amber vapor]

Ember buff inc trust

[outer ermine]

love how most bricked their chest

[ripe parrot]

marble 243/240 is pretty good for a level 80 team with bad essence

[frigid vector]

it's also ok because I lucksacked it from gilberta sig banner

[broken shale]

Physical carried my ass

[frigid vector]

truly no regrets

[ripe parrot]

you dropped this 👑

[broken shale]

My biggest regret is getting 3 of the blue longsword

I could've gotten wedge, det unit anything

But I got that shit thrice

[amber vapor]

Wnn curse

[ripe parrot]

i'm still kicking myself for going oblivion in the box

[lime nacelle]

I did that too.

[broken shale]

Dps xaihi?

[ripe parrot]

but that's because i went in truly blind into the game

[broken shale]

I can see the vision

[lime nacelle]

Same.

Now I have no Thermite. Account bricked.

[ripe parrot]

i just coped with edge/fortmaker

[broken shale]

Bro give me a jet or a wedge and I'll give you thermite

[ripe parrot]

i mean it's not like you can't trim without thermite so yeah

[daring dove]

It'll be a direct buy in the shop eventually.

I can't wait I want my P5 Thermite Cutter.

[lime nacelle]

Too late. BRB rerolling account.

[ripe parrot]

thermite cutter will show up once an operator is released that makes thermite cutter users obsolete

[daring dove]

[broken shale]

pov you got ember

[lime nacelle]

I got Lifeng first. Was kind of upset.

[outer ermine]

i got 3 for u, hand thermite over 🤝

[ripe parrot]

i wish i had ember on my phys team

[lime nacelle]

Now I'm kinda glad I got him.

[broken shale]

I got p1 you ember

So i did what any sane person would do

[summer flower]

I still dunno which gear to stick to for endmin

[broken shale]

Made a new account

[summer flower]

Therefore i'm building(artificing *)perlica's

[ripe parrot]

when in doubt swordmancer

why does opus the living keep showing up in my shop

nobody likes you opus

[broken shale]

Bro if trade was a thing, I would've done it already

[lime nacelle]

I've tested all 3 sets and settled on Bonekrusha.

Oh.

[summer flower]

I remember

[lime nacelle]

BUT

[summer flower]

One of those sets

[lime nacelle]

Only if you play with Pog.

[summer flower]

Is bad passive

Other is bad stats

[lime nacelle]

Without Pog then don't bother with Bonekrusha.

[daring dove]

Best girl will keep Thermite cutter meta for a long time.

[ripe parrot]

akekuri is already kinda close to being cut

[lime nacelle]

Besides, the difference between Swordmancer and Bonekrusha isn't thaaat big. Plus Swordmancer does stun faster.

[daring dove]

Slander & mistruths

[ripe parrot]

new operators might send her to the exp ticket mines

[fast hinge]

when you proc pog t2 with like a lift, knock down, etc. does the atk% and arts intensity affect the damage of the thing that proc'd it or is it just damage after the effect?

[daring dove]

That's Wulfguard that's heading that way

[ripe parrot]

the next op has to be better than a 2x applier + combust

for that to be the case

like if link wasn't so strong akekuri wouldn't even be here

120 cost ult is painful

[daring dove]

Naw I'm fairly confident Akekuri remains BiS in Laevatain teams way longer than Wulguard. But she does require a lot more investment than him to work right.

For low investment I can see Wulfguard being better.

[fast hinge]

just run like 230% ult efficiency on her 😎

[raven escarp]

What's the specific knowledge

[ripe parrot]

the knowledge is that wulfgard can literally solo apply for laev at p5

so you don't need anyone but him to do rotations

gilb is there for literally amp and vortex

[woeful plume]

the specific knowledge is having p5 wulf

[daring dove]

As long as the next operator also applies a heat stack it shouldn't be a problem. Keep in mind you're getting an extra SP bar per rotation roughly with a well built Akekuri + the extra 28% team wide damage.

Wulf simply can't compete at high invest

At low he will.

[ripe parrot]

you're also actually losing like 100 sp per rotation because his ult is effective another laev CS and every frag grenade is also another 100 effective sp

akekuri is still really good for current content aka trim

[frozen tide]

probs just shoving in as much dmg as you can while her 5 secs amp is up

gilb is very low uptime

[ripe parrot]

but it starts to taper off meaningfully past rhod where fights do matter past the initial burst

but I mean the answer at the moment is: run both lmao

I value the consistency of wulf very highly and I don't know if they'll release a heat operator that will apply better than him versus them releasing a better vanguard/sp battery with buffs

but that's me just speculating

[daring dove]

Yeah but as someone who's in certain content managed to get Laevatain full ult in 14 seconds without Wulfguard on the team at all. Instead using Gilberta I know he's easily replacable with someone who provides a proper buff. But for ST right now he's still BiS.

[ripe parrot]

that's in a vacuum environment where we don't care about anything past like 1 minute into a fight

but yes good for speedruns

where 2x application doesn't do much

[naive lichen]

Im wondering if i can change to 3x workshops on the ship.. and if it's worth doing that

[ripe parrot]

3x workshops
i'm getting flashbacks to arknights base building meta

but no you can't change them

[icy minnow]

Wulfgard would be even better if Laev teams weren't so sp constrained right now, you could actually use his enhanced battle skill

[outer ermine]

252mr moment

[ripe parrot]

which is why i'll reinforce the point that akekuri is more likely to get the boot

I can easily see the game meta moving to heavier SP gains with future ops

[naive lichen]

ah okay. thanks

[ripe parrot]

but I will also say that this is all just stuff I'm assuming in my head and not what might actually happen

[daring dove]

For the majority of players sure, especially if you only have P0 Thermite cutter or not at all. For absolute best in slot not happening.

Wulf's great for low investment.

[ripe parrot]

okay i'll concede that if we're talking like minmax speedrunning, yes

the low investment of a 5 star p5

F2P players go broke doing that

[icy minnow]

Akekuri is great for bosses where you can actually reach the stagger points, regular stuff dies too fast for her to generate much sp

Wish we had an arc light but for fire, her kit is so fun

[daring dove]

I hope during 1.1 or 1.2 fire team gets a buff.

Would be great if we got a really strong fire sub DPS that doesn't want to consume heat stacks

Just create them.

[lime nacelle]

OK what stagger attack? 😠

[ripe parrot]

the strike you get when their bar maxes out

[lime nacelle]

Oh I call it stun smash.

Let's see...

[proud vector]

I can see the game moving towards double vanguard ngl

[outer ermine]

bench wolf for rossi trust

[proud vector]

quad vanguard reaction team will be lit trust trust

All the skills in the world man

[ripe parrot]

vanguardknights

i want defenders to rise up

parry mechanics are cool

[daring dove]

I'm hoping so

[icy minnow]

I wish dodge wasn't as good so we could have defenderknights

But not much reason to block or reduce damage when you can just avoid it with a super generous perfect dodge window

[rotund yoke]

They'll make her a dps and have her fight laev for infliction stacks like LR and Yvonne

[icy canyon]

anyone know why aethertech was removed from LR's options

[midnight stirrup]

Lol where did the aether chest go

[outer ermine]

[midnight stirrup]

LMAO Hifumi

You were cooking

[outer ermine]

i did build aether yesterday to test my nuke on marble phase 2 tho lol

i onetapped most of em

[daring dove]

When we all skip her in protest

[midnight stirrup]

Yo can I just say

I love this game

But target lock fucking sucks

They need to fix that asap

[ripe parrot]

i tried target lock once

never again

i'd rather just accidentally hit something 2 ft away

[midnight stirrup]

Shit is all over the place

[midnight stirrup]

I mean its good vs stagger

Combo happens more often tho so imma stick with bone like u said

[outer ermine]

i havent staggered a boss since story

[lime nacelle]

LIFENG GLOVES DEATH BATTLE!

Who wins?!

[fading fog]

man my laev is doing more damage with a single enhanced skill than my yvonne's full ult combo

[outer ermine]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1bfFUzTEBj
the crit fishing of these low pot runs tho

[daring dove]

For a while I thought Yvonne's combo was doing over a million damage as I assumed all those climbing numbers where each seperate damage instances....

Turns out it's just the same number getting progressively bigger.

Full scam on visual numbers.

[rare rover]

[rustic knoll]

isnt that most games to be fair ^_^

[daring dove]

Nope in Genshin each number shown is its own seperate instance of damage. Yvonne is full damage scamming.

[rustic knoll]

bruv thats one game, im talking about gaming in general, warframe , destiny2, poe, just to name a few giants but ye

but again ik its your experience ! so ye rip

[lime nacelle]

MapleStory.

[rustic knoll]

havnet played so cant comment

[lime nacelle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/calculated-risk

Numbers.

Numbers everywhere!

[rustic knoll]

i remember i saw that game when i was in highschool

people still play ts/

[lime nacelle]

Are you doing 3 million or 33 million? Hahaha... YOU DON'T KNOW!

[thorn shore]

im 99.99% sure we do not have dmg numbers like that in wf and d2

theyre all seperate instances

multiple dmg numbers like that are commonly diff instances

[rustic knoll]

maybe its a setting cuz mine always add up

on wf that is

i might just be straight wrong about d

d2

havent played in a minute

[thorn shore]

how so

[rustic knoll]

idk bruv i just know whenever i use my mesa my dmg definitely starts low and then hits million+ the longer i fire

cud be different frame to frame

(ik she has built in dmg ramp )

but the jump is too big for it to be consistent numbers

[thorn shore]

if you just copied a build from someone theres a lot more than just the built in dmg ramp

[rustic knoll]

who tf copies builds in wf type shi

[thorn shore]

the common builds have things that give stats on kill, on status effect, etc etc

[rustic knoll]

i only play void cascade and ive crafted all my builds so im also sure about my situation

[thorn shore]

a solid amount

[meager tartan]

Best Yvonne comp?

[rustic knoll]

gilb xaihi + 1

LR for cryo stack source, fluorite same but worse, snowshine can work too

[meager tartan]

Is fluorite better than ardelia for that +1

[rustic knoll]

oh or estella

[rustic knoll]

uhhh its up to you, fluorite wil give u more cyro stacks but ardellia will give u corrosion

im not sure whats better

[meager tartan]

I guess ardelia she’s e2s3

[rustic knoll]

tho if u run ardelia

u have 1 way to get cryostacks no ?

does yvonne apply herself

[meager tartan]

Yvonne can solidify from gib

No need for cryi stacks

[rustic knoll]

aight

gl gl

im saving my pulls for the lead chick in wuling

[lime nacelle]

Tangtang!

[rustic knoll]

no

[lime nacelle]

YES!

[rustic knoll]

the

[lime nacelle]

500 CATTIES!

[rustic knoll]

wuling city leader

forgot her name

zhuang

or sum

[supple epoch]

She’s gonna be electric

Wulf Rossi OL team no doubt kekek

[rustic knoll]

whats the actual point of doing depot runs urself

do u get less if u transfer?

[supple epoch]

Transfer yours

And do other ppls

Profit

[rustic knoll]

so no downside to transfer

[supple epoch]

Ppl might mess them up I guess lol

[rustic knoll]

uh

i might be "people"

AHAHAA

[supple epoch]

But I haven’t really had any issues

[lime nacelle]

Only downside is if no one does yours.

[rustic knoll]

if i ever take lodespring by accident , im tp'ing idgaf

[rustic knoll]

ive had all mine done within 30 mins no exceptions so far

[lime nacelle]

I have my ziplines all placed.

[rustic knoll]

we are 2 sides of a coin

i have yet to place a zipline

except for the 1 in the quest

at science park

tho i really shud set one up for wuling

cuz fuck theres alot of walking

[lime nacelle]

1 minute of ziplining.

[thorn shore]

not for the faint of heart, ts takes hours🥀

does feel good to have it all though

[rustic knoll]

is syringe C the highest u can get in wuling so far/

[thorn shore]

wuling rare materials r the only ones i actually bother collecting often

[lime nacelle]

What takes hours is walking everywhere.

Placing zipline is just once!

[potent hornet]

why walk when can dash!!

[thorn shore]

until you realize it barely doesnt reach the other zipline so you have to walk back to it finagle it a bit and walk back to see if it reaches rinse and repeat

[potent hornet]

it tells you if its in distance tho when you start to place

[lime nacelle]

SOLVED!

[rustic knoll]

we are now cooking

[thorn shore]

yeah but if you have yet to place the next one in the chain but have an idea of where u want it to be

[potent hornet]

ahh gotcha

[thorn shore]

then it cant help you

[potent hornet]

where do you go to see this?

[summer flicker]

you need 10.5/m wuling batt with 3/m usage + 5.75/m syringe to be able to fully buy tangtang's base

[lime nacelle]

Where syringe?

[thorn shore]

1 gear every 25min

[lime nacelle]

🐌

[thorn shore]

i just made a massive stockpile then cut off comp production i need my damn batteries

[summer flicker]

how you fully buy tangtang base

with 3/m xiranite comp

[rustic knoll]

click on ur AIC

[rustic knoll]

i can get that if i stop making gear mats im pre sure

[summer flicker]

just make gear less

[lime nacelle]

Or from the menu, AIC Report.

[summer flicker]

make like 0.5 0.75/m

for gear

[lime nacelle]

RIPPORT!

[rustic knoll]

i need to make gear more more +more atm cuz i have no gear except the tutorial one from start of the game ^_^

[summer flicker]

you r hard limit every week 60 artificer anyway

[potent hornet]

ahh ok cool thx

[rustic knoll]

havent done any artificing stuff atm ill have a look at it

[thorn shore]

[rustic knoll]

nw

[lime nacelle]

No.

[rustic knoll]

how tf are u using 480 in wuling

[lime nacelle]

Oh that's right.

I need to transport more.

[thorn shore]

syringes if i ever want to suddenly mass produce a ton of wuling stuff

i got like 4 syringe lines

[lime nacelle]

Yikes thanks for reminding me.

Time to do the thing.

[thorn shore]

awaiting my ferrium transfer

[summer flicker]

just do meta transfer

and you get 115/m ferrium

-> 5.75/m syringe if my meth isnt wrong

or abit higher than that

[potent hornet]

any idea when we get a TangTang banner?

i needs the kitty

[thorn shore]

according to the aether she might be right after yvonne

[potent hornet]

nice

[rustic knoll]

ye if i turn off my gearing unit im at 12 bat per min w/ 1 usage per min and 5 syringe per min, that is fine yes?

[thorn shore]

tangtang and yvonne easiest double banner skip of my life

ill be filthy rich

[summer flicker]

yes

but how you have so much free energy, you should use 3/m (2 thermal battery)

[potent hornet]

i don't care about yvonne so much,

[summer flicker]

i guess you havent done zipline

[rustic knoll]

ive skipped all so far, so im sitting at like 160 pulls ^_^

[rustic knoll]

i have placed 1 zipline in my playthrough so far that was forced onto me in the science park quest line

[thorn shore]

laev was meta and gilberta was a must pull for pure waifu value

[rustic knoll]

meta never matters in 1.0 since they will be powercrept to hell in 6 months

[thorn shore]

and then i lowk wanted to get some of my 5 stars p5 so i pulled for p1 gil

[potent hornet]

TangTang is my wifu pull

[thorn shore]

6 months of really strong team ill take it

[summer flicker]

😭

[thorn shore]

the next strongest will be powercrept in another 6 months

so on and so forth

[rustic knoll]

yes ur right, i mean moreso, laev is strong, but so is every single other team comp atm, so like the value per pull on laev is actually ALOT lower BECAUSE the game isnt hard yet

[summer flicker]

how fast is pwc in og ak

[rustic knoll]

so future dps will have INCREASE in pull efficiency

[potent hornet]

I'm maining Last right atm, tho i have all the 6 stars so far except gilberta and Lifeng

[thorn shore]

endgame in 2 days hope its hard but doubt it

[worn forge]

Yvonne, tangtang, rossi...big sleep for 3 banners for me

[thorn shore]

dont think the game will ever get hard

[thorn shore]

rossi is a sleep unless she is meta laev support

then shes a painful pull

[rustic knoll]

is zhuang the final one ffs i have to wait so long

[thorn shore]

i do not want a child on my account but alas if i must

[worn forge]

ive only heard 2 banner update

grain of salt ofc

[potent hornet]

did they give Rossi an age?

[proud vector]

what is theorycrafting doing

[rustic knoll]

dont be one of the weirdos that justfies liking her cuz shes 1000 years old

[icy minnow]

Couple years for direct power creep, even then units are still situationally better

[proud vector]

Rossi’s age?

[potent hornet]

i didn't like her character in general

[gritty olive]

[rustic knoll]

is it just me btw or do wuling characters have SUCH an artificial accent

[thorn shore]

theorycrafting how to avoid pdf file accusations after pulling rossi because "waifu"

[potent hornet]

someone just said she was a child so i figured i missed her age somewhere

[thorn shore]

no one called her waifu im just making shit up but itd be funny

[normal tangle]

they're chinese?

[rustic knoll]

doesnt sound right still

[normal tangle]

gacha players when the chinese people have a chinese accent

[rustic knoll]

????

[proud vector]

when weirdos make Daughter characters weird

[daring dove]

Sometimes not always, Hu Tao was the best character in Genshin until Raiden dropped. Then when Yelan dropped she was the best character for 2.7 until 4.2.

Depends on the game.