theorycrafting

[dire nymph]

think c0 nefer’s at 160 flins 150-155

[midnight stirrup]

I think u still struggle at c6 in dire stygian tho

For the shiny skins

But idk

[next helm]

2m dps

People do dire with c0

[potent hornet]

i'm using Last Right, Perlica, Ardelia, and Xaihi. might have something to do with one fo their skills

[midnight stirrup]

Regular dire

Im talking about shiny skins dire

[daring dove]

I was clearing dire in 15 seconds per stage. Kind of got a bit boring.

[midnight stirrup]

Within a certain time

[next helm]

Yeah no shit you paid your content away

You one shot teyvat

[midnight stirrup]

Yea true

Do you even enjoy the game atp

Like whats the point

[dire nymph]

ready for celestia patch

[midnight stirrup]

The scaling at c6 for genshin is wild

Akef is pretty balanced

[gritty olive]

pretty balanced so far

[daring dove]

I'mma take another break from Genshin though I think. Wait for the game to evolve a bit more. Focus on Ark Knights Enfield for now. Gesnhin's starting to age out a little & I kind of feel the devs have stopped trying.

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1461981392807395431/36ff4ed2f5f6b516d2834327e01defbe8489578.gif1052w_web-dynamic.webp

[lime nacelle]

I quit at the start of the year.

I literally can't stand to do another second of Genshin story anymore.

[dire nymph]

had the most fun with natlan kits tbh

[gritty olive]

am i going to send what i play dailt

[next helm]

skport

are you okay

[daring dove]

I also didn't like that Hoyo took all their Genshin money an just developed a ton of different games with it. Rather than actually meaningfully improving Genshin.

[dire nymph]

the tft game lol

[lime nacelle]

Imagine if we had the same quality of cutscenes that we do in ZZZ.

[next helm]

zzz just has a different engine

[lime nacelle]

Hell, you can find plenty of fan-made videos showing what it would look like if Hoyo actually bothered.

[lime nacelle]

Or they don't put in the effort.

[daring dove]

For me I don't mind if a developer makes a new game every 5-6 years, but Genshin has just turned 6 an Hoyo has developed two other games & is hard at work on their 3rd.

[next helm]

they put similar effort in zzz

[summer flicker]

woah that alot game, i only wuwa, stella sora, and endfield for gacha games

[lime nacelle]

I just play ZZZ and Endfield now.

[summer flicker]

[dire nymph]

they have at least 5 coming for hoyo at least

which is fucked

[next helm]

everythings better than fire emblem heroes

That game literally hasn't hit eos yet cause of whales only

[daring dove]

Yeah if like after 2 years Enfield developers make another game. That'll be a warning sign for me to close up shop.

Instead of just improving Enfield.

[dull oriole]

Excellent argument, however, 💰

[pulsar sedge]

wtf

5 games

[supple epoch]

We have that Pokémon auto chess game , animal crossings game , the uh detective game or whatever it is that’s horror ish ?

Their next big project that was teased with rain or something?

Genshin will have been planned out extensively so there wasn’t really a point in dumping the money back in.

Investing in the money instead in tech

[midnight stirrup]

Hmmm

[supple epoch]

Energy

[midnight stirrup]

I partially agree

I think they did really well with Nod-krai for the most part

[supple epoch]

Promoting new IPs is very important

[midnight stirrup]

But the game still feels... shallow?

Idk

[supple epoch]

You’ll likely see a genshin upgrade

As they dump compatibility

[midnight stirrup]

Also 8h for 2 acts is crazy work

[supple epoch]

Ps4 compatibility ends in April

[midnight stirrup]

Didnt they already stop updating Genshin for PS4

[supple epoch]

As well as compatibility to a variety of mobile

[midnight stirrup]

Its just that they can play until X

or am I wrong

[supple epoch]

They gave us the 8 month warning

We also had leaks before that announcement that hoyo was making a new custom engine for genshin

[cloud sinew]

anyone got a reliable method to level low-level operators without spending consummables

[supple epoch]

So it’s likely it will get updated in the next 2 years or so

[midnight stirrup]

I did see stuff about Genshin 2

Regardless tho

[supple epoch]

Iirc that was a suss leak but also the natural progression when the teyvat story ends

[midnight stirrup]

Nah

It wasnt sus

It was by a very credible person

Its just people missunderstood it for a new game

But itll take place in the same game

[gritty olive]

its best not to talk about leaks even if on other games

[supple epoch]

Idk about that. We all know about honkai impact part 2 🤣

[gritty olive]

since its TOS breaking in discord

[midnight stirrup]

Yea thats why I didnt want to drop the word

[steady rock]

Do i need 600 int on alesh to maximize his combo talent chat and is it worth the investment

[midnight stirrup]

[midnight stirrup]

Like discord ever cared

But yea for this servers rules sake

Lets move on

[supple epoch]

Hoyo doesn’t care unless it’s monetisation discords like kqm or prydwen. Or if it’s the actual leaks but it’s fine

[midnight stirrup]

Its mostly better to move on

bc I dont think Gryph discriminates with leaks in general

discussing leaks = discussing leaks to them prob

[gritty olive]

doesnt care doesnt mean we should be lax in doing so

[lime nacelle]

OK so when were you guys going to tell me that Vuln stacks don't affect how much damage your ultimates do. 😠

[pulsar sedge]

what

[midnight stirrup]

Hes talking about Hoyo IPs

[supple epoch]

Yeah they released stuff on all of them already

The Pokémon game , they refer to them as spirits iirc

And they use other games characters

[pulsar sedge]

thats p insane lol

[midnight stirrup]

Honkai Nexus Anima

[pulsar sedge]

given gamedev cycles

[supple epoch]

Like blade from hsr

[supple epoch]

Yep

[midnight stirrup]

I aint playing that shit or the detective bs tho

They both look ass

[supple epoch]

They had a vidoe up for that mystery horror game as well with combat and all

[midnight stirrup]

Also kind of done with Hoyo

in general

I prefer AKEF a lot

[gritty olive]

kore koso ga iberia no destreza

[supple epoch]

Akef I’ll wait a year and a half or so

And see how I feel lmao

See how they treat powercreep and such

[midnight stirrup]

Gryph has done a lot of good so far

Im hoping they stick with that trust they built

[supple epoch]

Hsr and zzz were pretty bad Imo with counter play and such

[midnight stirrup]

Ive only heard good things about AK

So im hopeful

[supple epoch]

Genshin I’ve overall been happy with but mostly a c0-2 player so

[midnight stirrup]

Chen?

[supple epoch]

I don’t have the whale complaints

[gritty olive]

chen the holungday

[midnight stirrup]

Genshin will always be my home gacha

[supple epoch]

Ake did a good job with standards

[midnight stirrup]

I hate it and love it

[gritty olive]

you dont know how fucking wild the fiasco was

[midnight stirrup]

But its the one I always go back to

But rn taking a break

[gritty olive]

for chen altee

[midnight stirrup]

The one in Endfield?

[gritty olive]

[supple epoch]

Ahhh I’ve never taken a break but it’s an easy game to just do dailies and log off

[midnight stirrup]

She bad

[supple epoch]

Since the resin = dailies change

[midnight stirrup]

I just lost interest

multiple times

and dailies felt like a chore to login

cbb

[supple epoch]

Infinite ayaka patch was my lowest xD

[rare rover]

@blazing lake

[gritty olive]

what

[midnight stirrup]

I wasnt playing during Ayaka patch thank god

[midnight stirrup]

LMAO

Kura I dont mean bad as in awful

[gritty olive]

chen alter set a bad precedent for HG regarding limited banners

[supple epoch]

The abyss was awful and cuz covid we had to keep playing it 😩

[midnight stirrup]

I mean bad as in she looks great

She a baddie

[gritty olive]

so she was controversial

[midnight stirrup]

[daring dove]

I kind of feel Ardelia to some extent has better animations than Gilberta. Although Ardelia kind of seems like the standard bearer for the rest of the standard characters.

[gritty olive]

this alter is heavily criticized for being a cashgrab

HG was experimenting for sure but for most its a cashgrab

[supple epoch]

Ahh I like Gilberta much better

[gritty olive]

since we were having limited banners twice every year

[midnight stirrup]

Yea no I prefer Gilb

[gritty olive]

now it has been bumped to four every year

[blazing lake]

whale flexing three badges i cant obtain

[midnight stirrup]

I hate Ardelia ult

[blazing lake]

then theres weapon trim

oh yeah

[rare rover]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-cat-catlaughing-laughingcat-point-gif-7577620470218150413

[blazing lake]

did you hear they're adding more trims

we're gonna be the first

[rare rover]

[midnight stirrup]

Whats the trim on bottom right

I got the whale badges

[blazing lake]

25 total weapon skill

[rare rover]

the 25 essence upgrade weapon trim

[midnight stirrup]

Is that essence shit

[daring dove]

I mean like normal attack strings an such, but I suppose you're not supposed to do them on supports anyway.

[blazing lake]

yes

[gritty olive]

so thats why chen alter was seen as predatory

[midnight stirrup]

I see

[gritty olive]

HG is kinda fine for now

but yostar isnt

[midnight stirrup]

Yea her NA are pretty cool ill give her that

[gritty olive]

fuck yostar holy

[rare rover]

u need p3 at least

[gritty olive]

[midnight stirrup]

for what

[rare rover]

to get 25 upgrades

[dire owl]

whats bottom left?

[rare rover]

depot delivery

20 flawless factory goods deliveries

[dire owl]

gross i always shove those off to other people lol

[midnight stirrup]

Wait you do it on a single weapon?

[rare rover]

meh its faster to do it myself when i got ziplines

[rare rover]

yes

[midnight stirrup]

Oh easy

I got P5 Khav

[rare rover]

1 single essence

so u need around 150+ essence to max a weapon essence

[midnight stirrup]

Im so confused

[dire owl]

technically only needs to be p3 for the trim

[midnight stirrup]

But basically what ur saying is

if I max LR sig essences

I get that medal

[rare rover]

u just need any p3 weapon and max its essence and have it at least p3 so u get upgrades on the skill

[midnight stirrup]

I know thats why said I got P5 so I should be good

[midnight stirrup]

Word

If only the game gave me my LR essence

[ocean saffron]

🐳

[midnight stirrup]

[rare rover]

dude essence hate me

[blazing lake]

bro i gotta max gilberta esnce

that shit is gonna suck

[rare rover]

im still grinding for a bp weapon essence for gil

[midnight stirrup]

I got that gil sig from BP R3

[rare rover]

i didnt even finish grinding ardelias sig essence

[midnight stirrup]

just to pull her sig within 20 pulls

im so dumb

[rare rover]

[midnight stirrup]

trying to be efficient, then still pull

[blazing lake]

i got 3 of 3/3 essence as of rn

[rare rover]

i only have laevs and wulguards

[blazing lake]

i can make an avy team now

[dry kindle]

Bp 💀

[midnight stirrup]

@rare rover my profile mogs yours

[blazing lake]

[rare rover]

im not pulling for her sig

[dry kindle]

Stanza

[blazing lake]

lvl 11 valley 4

L profile...

[daring dove]

I'm still at a complete loss to how good Gilberta's sig actually is to be honest. From an uptime prospective it's pretty great. But in terms of a damage increase it's a complete question mark.

[dry kindle]

Ok whel

[rare rover]

super whel

[midnight stirrup]

chill i only just started ding factry

br my fucking keybard is breaking

🇸🇧

HELL

[blazing lake]

im so humble

type sh

[midnight stirrup]

hly my keybard dead

my o buttn and backspace dead

[blazing lake]

you're typing on your phone...

[rare rover]

lord the severe lack of files

[midnight stirrup]

i8iiiiii88i8i8kuuuu

mg

hld n

[blazing lake]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[daring dove]

There's 25 operators rn right, it's still crazy to me you got P5 LR so efficiently .

[blazing lake]

uh

less than 25

[daring dove]

I think I have 24 an I don't have Yvonne. Maybe I'm mistaken though.

[blazing lake]

theres 23

[daring dove]

Ah, I must have 22 then, fair enough.

[uneven garnet]

so ull skip yvonne i guess

[rare rover]

icky ult cultist

[gritty olive]

im doing max artifice for hotworks later

fortunately tidefall gets retained

[daring dove]

I'm 99% sure I'm skipping Yvonne unless she's really good from an outpost / ship effciency prospective.

[blazing lake]

bro max artifice for THIS

W gameplay

[daring dove]

She likely has 3/3 in Valley outpost 2 I'm guessing?

Since she's from that region?

[open hare]

E

[daring dove]

But then I don't think it's possible to get production from Valley to complete clear out all 3 outposts anyway. So having 3 operators with all 3/3 is useless.

[neat snow]

Yes she does

[midnight stirrup]

Tbf I got P5 LR too

without a hitch

Out of P5 Laev and LR I only lost to 1 Gilb and 3 Pogs

No Ardelia, Ember and Lifeng

No Yvonne

[midnight stirrup]

Yea

Anyway I fixed my keyboard o and backspace button by taking the keys off but I dont think I can get them back on oop

[ocean saffron]

🐳

[dry kindle]

Wut

[daring dove]

I'm pretty much capped on Valley production & I can't clear out all 3 outposts resources. Maybe I'm doing something wrong though.

Creating like 15 batteries & 18 bucka?

At most I can consistently clear out 2 outposts.

[lime nacelle]

???

You are 100% doing something wrong.

[daring dove]

Maybe then, I'll check it out later.

[lime nacelle]

These are your maximums for stable output.

[dry kindle]

Nice citrome a

🔥

[lime nacelle]

lol

It's because I was producing it before.

I swapped.

[daring dove]

Only difference is I'm missing 3 batteries to be honest.

But I'm using less batteries as well

[lime nacelle]

You are probably only getting half the input on one of your productions.

[dry kindle]

Are you sure it's 15 18 current and not theoretical

[lime nacelle]

Like, if you messed up a belt placement.

Or put the wrong type of unit.

[daring dove]

Naw, I use that screen as well an it kind of doesn't lie.

[lime nacelle]

That sort of thing will hold you back like half a battery unit.

[daring dove]

Plus it's a template I used.

[lime nacelle]

[daring dove]

I'm only using 6 batteries I think an making 15.

So could be argued I'm more efficient there.

[lime nacelle]

What's that?

You think you can be more efficient than me?!

I think an efficiency challenge is in order.

There I took out one of my generators.

Only 5 generators now.

[ocean saffron]

this is actually the max

[dry kindle]

Where's your 80k batteries in depot

[midnight stirrup]

Why are we making Citrone again

[noble tapir]

Why would not just make batteries?

[ocean saffron]

because you have spare ore

[lime nacelle]

Oh yeah you can make extra baby products too. But you can empty the outposts with just those two.

[daring dove]

That seems better, I'll try something like that next time I'm off.

[lime nacelle]

You don't have enough ore to make more batteries.

[midnight stirrup]

Whats the point of citrone tho

doesnt that earn barely anything

[lime nacelle]

The baby Citrome/Buck products are really cheap.

[blazing lake]

@rare rover got thermite/pog weapon 3/3

[lime nacelle]

Still extra money.

I don't bother with it.

[ocean saffron]

why would you want to cap your ore and not mine it

[rare rover]

neat so now can u jump?

[dry kindle]

More number gooder

[blazing lake]

whaling wont save you.

[daring dove]

That's an Akekuri essence not a Pog one.

[midnight stirrup]

i have no clue what u mean

[midnight stirrup]

i mean ig

[blazing lake]

never rest is pog sig

[lime nacelle]

I'm making bomb instead. Guess this should be enough.

[ocean saffron]

If you dont use your amethyst ore its just sitting idle

[midnight stirrup]

I mean ig

Is there no better options then citrone tho ig not

[lime nacelle]

You will eventually cap out on it so I don't bother.

[ocean saffron]

Every other amethyst product uses the two main ores you're using for capsules and batteries

[midnight stirrup]

souka

[lime nacelle]

The baby products sell for 10 each.

And are real cheap to make.

[forest lily]

Ive tried again and again to try avoid Rho's Stagger reset with nuke, i managed to have every single lance hit him before stagger reset ONCE, and now, (i know this was a bad run with spaced out lances) no matter how much i try, he always resets before all my lances hit, does anyone know if theres something im missing, because if i could get every lances max dmg, this is a bad run, without any food buffs. i could potentially get super close to 1 shottting him

if you see. the non-stagger reset lances do 78k in this run with no food, and drop to 60k after 2 of them hit

[lime nacelle]

Multi-hit attacks don't really work because after his HP drops below a certain point, his stun gets dropped and you don't do extra damage anymore. You have to hit him with a REALLY heavy attack that hits only once.

[leaden tartan]

Wait, is this actually an on-topic post in #theorycrafting ? I'm shocked.

[dry kindle]

No

[forest lily]

ive had it once before though, idk if for some reason it bugged or if i managed to hit every lance on the same frame

[rare rover]

theory crafting is uh 50% of the time on topic

[lime nacelle]

[rare rover]

and im being generous there

[daring dove]

It's pretty cool that Gilberta's ult doesn't get shortned by using other characters ults.

[lime nacelle]

Maybe try making some more room for your buffs, I think you ran out of space.

[thin berry]

anyone know how many pulls we get in endgame

[forest lily]

its handy

[leaden tartan]

Theoretically infinite. Depends on end of service.

[thin berry]

per patch or banner..

[tame sand]

counting dailies or

[midnight stirrup]

Be fr

[tame sand]

people have been saying around 60-70 per patch

[leaden tartan]

It's not established yet. You'll have to wait until 1.2 for a reasonable estimate I think.

[midnight stirrup]

They havent been revealed yet

Well know more next week

[thin berry]

we alr know we are getting a permanent one and a limited one

perm one doesnt give currency only upgrade mat

[forest lily]

i think my rotation just provides the max i can get

i read over an old nuke vid i did once before i think and every buff i have got applied

what i could technically do, is instead of healing foods, i could put on some ult eff foods aswell as feed them prior, and have 2 ult lances in my nuke

just wanna 1 shot this guy, i really just need more avy copies, im only p2 😭 . p5 avy would go a long way, all her pots are incredible

[blazing lake]

do you have 3/3 essence for her weapon

[forest lily]

i need some copies

but yeah

[blazing lake]

you dont need copies

you gotta squeeze out all of avy raw stats

max artifice?

[forest lily]

im working on artifice, the main stats are artificed. im just waiting on currency

both kits battle skill dmg bonus are max artifices

and so is the will

the gloves elec dmg bonus is maxed, working on will

[blazing lake]

whats her total stats

send

[dry kindle]

Oh

Theres a funny for umbral

[forest lily]

prior to food

with jakub i get to 6k atk

[blazing lake]

try to max the 3/3

lol

a lot of raw stats from that atk %

[forest lily]

xD im tryiinnng

0 sanity

no boosters

its a rough world

ill try the double EX lance rotation

see how much i can do

[dry kindle]

Umbral pull income is datamined but idk if its public server or not

[blazing lake]

give us the numbers

spoil us

[dry kindle]

I don't feel like dying

[blazing lake]

GIVE IT US

[dry kindle]

[blazing lake]

bro is gatekeeping

[normal tangle]

this has to be like the most useless system ever dawg

this fuckin thing produces NOTHING

+2 sanity per day

[blazing lake]

its passive

[normal tangle]

yeah, passively terrible

[blazing lake]

its like Arknights

you just wait

theres no rush

[dry kindle]

If it's a leak I get shot

So

[normal tangle]

1 xp item in an entire day btw

[forest lily]

its close

pretty fat nuke, might start doing this rotation

i need a lil more ult eff though, was a tiny bit late on the avy ult

[bronze plume]

its like arknights passive income system but worse

endfield: we are like arknights but worse

[forest lily]

i think if uhh, rho didnt reset stagger that would actually 1 shot him

or atleast leave him on ticklish hp

lets count the dmg

[blazing lake]

well to be fair

arknights is unc

[bronze plume]

avy can 1 shot him ez

[blazing lake]

endfield is a baby

wah wah wah

[bronze plume]

arknights sprinted so endfield could crawl

i know

[blazing lake]

https://tenor.com/view/ironmouse-cry-for-me-cry-for-me-gif-18392018586289736187

[forest lily]

1,096,110 dmg nuke with 30% dmg loss on every spear but 1
1,400,435.4 dmg if he didnt stagger reset everything

so all im hearing is

i just have to get lucky crits

[bronze plume]

i think avy if fully invested and correct team can just

nuke rho without needing the rng of cris

[forest lily]

yeah

i almost done it there

and my avy is p2

if i had a full p5 avy and mastery 3 her ult (its on 2) and max support buffs

it'd 1 tap for sure

im just poor on resources

[dry kindle]

https://vxb23.tv/vSSzzRn just have p5 jet

[forest lily]

this game actually dosent want me to have pots on anything avy related

it hates me, ive rolled on a banner with jet and get anything but it,. i think i'd have a p15 xaihi by now with how much it gives me her and not avy

[bronze plume]

sadge

[forest lily]

he hit a crit on both ult lances

and half his normal lances

[twilit quail]

both

oh man

[blazing lake]

i mean

its porbably doable with p0 jet

[twilit quail]

there's a lot more than 2

[forest lily]

again, yeah i defos get it if i invest into my support weapon buffs and stuff

but this guy just has p5 jet and hits crits on everything

kinda lucky

[bronze plume]

are all thos ult spears or is it just 1 ult spear

[forest lily]

he has another ult spear to the right of the screen

idk how

[blazing lake]

dude is probably a whale

[forest lily]

but you see it come in

the 400k pops are both ult crits

wait

he has 6 lances too

if he hasnt hit the boss

how does he have 3 lances and an ult spear to the right

weird

[tight haven]

just p2 gil instead

[bronze plume]

id assume pre placed

[tight haven]

👍

[bronze plume]

charge ult and combo skill place them reset fight then do it again

id assume thats how you can do a extra 4 lances

[forest lily]

i dont have the food to just spam into her to instacharge ult again

how do you get to boss without aggro

[bronze plume]

yeah its cheesy af anyway

you crouch to stealth clearly

(idk)

[forest lily]

you can just walk behind

lol

ok no i just tried it, spears dissapear from arena

idk what this guy done

but theres some cheese involved or something

[bronze plume]

might be some kinda glitch or someshii involved

would look into it but me no speaka that language

that is not one of the languages in my arsenal

[forest lily]

😭

[proud vector]

maybe camera glitch to air hop out of aggro range?

[forest lily]

nah you can literally just walk around the arena lol

i just dont understand how he has an ult and 3 spears pre-placed

[bronze plume]

we talking about the extra spears that come in

[forest lily]

unless

let me use spears on an overworld enemy

and go in, maybe it pulls

[proud vector]

[bronze plume]

i doubt it would pull the spears in if left placed in the overworld

that would be highly funny tho

[forest lily]

yeah it dosent

[twilit quail]

if you dont have dupe they disappear faster

he goes around and preplaces 3

[forest lily]

but to preplace you need to hit a combo skill with electro applied

to like, he needs to hit something

hitting boss immediately aggros

[twilit quail]

he ults

stew meeting

ults

stew meeting

[harsh slate]

[forest lily]

oh i see now

thats so stupid 😭

ofc you can 1 tap if you do that

anybody could stack like 14 ults

[twilit quail]

due to ult built in cd there's a limit

you still have to wait for the cd

[bronze plume]

welcome to "speedrunning"

[twilit quail]

but they are working on theoretical sub 9 rn

[bronze plume]

"speedruns" like that should not count the counter at first hit on enemy

[thin berry]

why does it have a VA ;-;

[bronze plume]

because its speaking to you

[lime nacelle]

Well... I have a SWORD!

[twilit quail]

if you dont like it you go make a new system that everyone agrees with

and prove its merits

[bronze plume]

yeah trying to change the mind of speedrunners and gacha game player ones at that is a waste of time

thinking preplacing like half yo dmg before you start the actual "speedrun" timer is goofy af

[forest lily]

ill stick to trying to 1 tap without preset things

[sly nymph]

is it worth levelling ba on off-fielders in phys

they are all 90/90 so surely its good chip

surely…

[forest lily]

what even is the best way to farm fillets and slug meat. is it just spamming alluvium's with the desired enemies

[pale wolf]

Should I focus on maxing out Laevatain completely

[twilit quail]

ok you can go submit in the category that starts timer on entering instance then

it exists

[bronze plume]

yeah alluviums would be the best

[sly nymph]

u just do hub alluvium

and kill hub dogs

[forest lily]

idk the routes, i was getting fillet from park's alluvium

[twilit quail]

I posted route in this channel at some point

it's mega buried though

[forest lily]

whats the average gain doing this

[bronze plume]

is that worth it over just doing the alluvium?

[sly nymph]

more than you need

[forest lily]

and whats the respawn timers actually. i swear its only like 30m-1h

[twilit quail]

essence node is dogshit compared to this

[bronze plume]

what i need is the cap

we go to 5 billion

[twilit quail]

essence node gives you nothing

[sly nymph]

alluvium bad

[bronze plume]

i see

[tight haven]

alluvium takes too long

[sly nymph]

hub alluvium good

[dry kindle]

🔥

[tight haven]

i do it bc i literally dont have zipline space

[forest lily]

you have a good mind

i also would like cap

[bronze plume]

im just joking

idc about food buffs

[sly nymph]

thats 80k but pop off i guess

[tight haven]

but even then running from point to point is probably faster

[bronze plume]

or doing the speedrun shit in general

[sly nymph]

hub alluvium is 6-10 per afk

[forest lily]

i dont even wanna do the weird speedrun stuff, i just need it because it lets me have a cooler roation 😭

[sly nymph]

worth

[forest lily]

ill try out the path and see how much it gives

[bronze plume]

at least 1 id gamble

[sly nymph]

should be 30ish

[bronze plume]

i won the gamble

[open hare]

Hey guys, is there a way to raise the chances of etching?

[sly nymph]

ok and

[bronze plume]

naur

[open hare]

From very low to low or what not

[bronze plume]

i mean i guess coolant gel makes it guaranteed

[open hare]

Damn man, I just wanted to ask a question with a Pic bruh

Do I level up strength or atk boost then?

[bronze plume]

atk then strength

pretty sure the atk boost is more overall well

attack

dont quote me on that

[twilit quail]

you need to do all lines anyway

[open hare]

But which one makes a good difference

I need 35 legendary essence to even upgrade detonate lol

Might as well just pull the weapon

[forest lily]

it yielded me 28 yeah

good point actually. should i be using jakub over ginseng

[mystic halo]

no

[forest lily]

is flat atk applied before any other buffs

[mystic halo]

jakub gives less atk in most cases

and has no crit either

[forest lily]

ok ok

[bronze plume]

what happened to the channel that was used to autoban the bots

[forest lily]

the beans

#do-not-post-or-get-beaned

[bronze plume]

oh W

discord just doing discord things

[mystic halo]

i think if you had some sort of freak build like 1k int with double slab jakub would have slightly more atk

actually would it

I dont think it would

it still wouldnt be worth

[open hare]

So farm ginseng unless they drop Dragon Warrior po dumpling food

Where Da Pans dumplings. He must be a descendant of the great dragon warrior

[mystic halo]

not like we're going to be using food for much

[forest lily]

im still waiting on farms for ginseng to test the difference

farming takes so long for such low ammount :/

[kindred sorrel]

Is double slab laeva the new meta now

[bronze plume]

reconveners clearly

[open hare]

The Great Dragon Warrior will arise in Da Pan

[forest lily]

but my avy goes from 5k to 6k atk with jakub

[open hare]

Meta till better damn gear drops lmao

[mystic halo]

double slab isnt real outside of high dupe stuff or if the player is unbelievably lazy

[open hare]

1k difference

[kindred sorrel]

Ye but I have 5+5

[forest lily]

i wanna know what it'll be with ginseng

[kindred sorrel]

So should I work on double slab next

[forest lily]

but 2hrs left on farms

[bronze plume]

hence the isnt real outside of high dupe

[mystic halo]

you can try it then but I think charge set is the way to go for 5+5

[kindred sorrel]

I’m running charge set rn

And it’s comfy

[mystic halo]

2x slab at least has something of an actual case on 5+5

[open hare]

Ask the smartest people around. They calculate freaking statistics for the meta ngl

[kindred sorrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811292071830749254/1469869341687152894/image.png?ex=698b343f&is=6989e2bf&hm=ca9a103885023c50d313cec2709abca95da99f468016b072f0b58228e74eb3b9&

[open hare]

I pull because wife. Sad if no wife

[mystic halo]

because your dmg% zone is cranked up by weapon dupe

[forest lily]

i mean i can calc it, i just dont know when the ginseng atk is applied

[kindred sorrel]

So I might as well try double slab next

[forest lily]

if its pre-everything, or slotted inbetween buffs

[placid knot]

Hello experts, is it just me or is Yvonne way waaaay weaker than Laevatain, I have both and i feel significant difference

[tight haven]

she is

[kindred sorrel]

Yes, Yvonne is pretty weak rn

[bronze plume]

do you have gilberta

[trim thicket]

Y?

[placid knot]

Pulling for her atm

[trim thicket]

Cuz of p5 1.2 times basic increase?

[open hare]

Yvonne is kinda ass until she gets something

[bronze plume]

thatll make her feel a little better but yeah shes just not as good as laev rn

[mystic halo]

flat atk is added to (1+%boosts) before attribute boosts are calculated

[placid knot]

Thanks for the info, I was wondering who should i invest more resources now i got the answer :D

[forest lily]

thank you

[tight haven]

yvonne is kind of in a "for fun" state right now

unfortunately

[bronze plume]

yeah until we get better supports for her shes kinda for fun

[mystic halo]

if the player simply has good uptime on 50 dmg% from hot works 2x slab isnt going to be any better

and missing out on 104% in skill dmg% is not ideal

so if you cant even activate hot works set effect consistently

2x slab might be for you

[kindred sorrel]

The current theory builds for 5+5 laeva are tidal chest + hot gloves + double seal/double slab/double hot kits right?

[mystic halo]

there is also crit set and one slab

though it's kind of an illness

[kindred sorrel]

Is there any reason to use single slab build over double slab or double hot

[bronze plume]

people run crit set and a slab

is that mental illness range

[tight haven]

crit set requires much longer fights than we have right now to really prove better than current options

because crit needs a long time scale to even out its gains

[torn wolf]

Clearly the best build is to have 12 gear slots and wear 3 layers of armor and glove and kits

[placid knot]

Also would u guys recommend antal or akekuri to laevatain team? (Laevatain, Wulfgard, Akekuri/Antal, Ardelia)

[mystic halo]

single slab to the extent of my knowledge has no use case other than 5+5, where it is also bad

[tight haven]

yeah no i tested earlier and you DO fall short by an incredibly small amount with 1 slab

on 5+5

iana confirmed its like

[mystic halo]

for charge set?

[tight haven]

0.3% charge off

yes

[bronze plume]

im currently trying to get the max ult gain laev build and seeing if i like it over hot works

[mystic halo]

wait so you go like

[tight haven]

hilarious

[mystic halo]

seal slab tide xira hands

[tight haven]

yea

[mystic halo]

and youre a little off?

[kindred sorrel]

Xiralite gloves tech

[tight haven]

literally 0.3%

[mystic halo]

that's funny

yeah you would be like 1 energy off

and have to press another skill

amazing

[tight haven]

bricking damage for fun and profit

[mystic halo]

the numerical environment in this game is certainly masterfully crafted

[proud vector]

What about Gilberta’s global energy gain passive

[tight haven]

doesnt apply to laev

[kindred sorrel]

Guess I’ll work on double slab and double hot kits so I can flex between the three sets

[tight haven]

its only for supporters/guards/casters

[mystic halo]

striker cant get it unfortunately

[proud vector]

OOF, that hurts

[tight haven]

if laev could get it

holy SHIT

[mystic halo]

both lae and yvonne would love it but neither can have it

[kindred sorrel]

Laeva forced to be a striker instead of og surtr guard

[tight haven]

well tbf

striker wasnt a class in ak

[bronze plume]

max ult gain laev gets full ult on 1 skill p0 right?

hence the dont use until full ult gain

[mystic halo]

1 enhanced 1 combo 2 team skill

[bronze plume]

still dont know why they added striker in cbt2 and removed specialist in cbt1

[mystic halo]

one standard cycle

[bronze plume]

bros the same thing

[open hare]

Guys I just got really lucky

[kindred sorrel]

You need to hit the breakpoint which requires artificing

[bronze plume]

hence max ult gain

[open hare]

First essence etch on a very low was a success

[tight haven]

its like 202% or something

idr its on ianas sheet

[ashen scroll]

I just found out laevantein is not Guard . . .

[bronze plume]

team skill?

[bronze plume]

now you just found out its actually laevatain

[mystic halo]

everyone gains 6.5 energy when someone uses a bs

[proud vector]

I mean to be fair all the guards have shielding

I wish I could say they all have parries

I really wish

[bronze plume]

ahh

now i shall use sanity on maxxing ardelias weapon essence

[open hare]

Can I parry with patriot

[bronze plume]

speaking of patriot

[ashen scroll]

[bronze plume]

why does bro have a big ahh statue in the tutorial

[open hare]

Causes he's just built different bro

He just chose the wrong side

[ashen scroll]

And why endmind act like know him if he not dokto

[open hare]

He ain't doktah

Child of Originium

[ashen scroll]

That what i said

[bronze plume]

he doesnt have the aura to be doktah

[ashen scroll]

Read

[bronze plume]

if he was we woulda seen him drink noodles with water right out the kettle

[open hare]

He needs the insta Ramen boil in mouth power first

[bronze plume]

exactly

[open hare]

He/she hasn't inherited it yet

[ashen scroll]

The kettle exist tho, the blue one

[open hare]

Maybe one day

[placid knot]

Hm and is Gilberta worth pulling for future Yvonne team or should I skip?

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/doktah-gif-13771863837679185786

[open hare]

Wife or no wife

[bronze plume]

considering yvonne needs gilberta to be actually useable even right now

id say shes a good pick up for her

[placid knot]

No wife

[open hare]

[ashen scroll]

Back to the question why he act like know patriot , is it greedy company ploy to monetize older game relation forcefuly?

[open hare]

...

[placid knot]

Alright, well i got very lucky (got yvonne and laevetain in 40 pulls xd) so I guess i can afford to pull gilberta as well

[bronze plume]

i mean the relation is that its literally set in the same universe gang

[ashen scroll]

Anw i cant find gilberta slot on any team , anyone got info?

[open hare]

Until you can't

[summer narwhal]

when it comes to stats on Essences, is there a one > another?

[bronze plume]

if it only took em 40 to get laev and yvonne on laevs banner

they can defo get gilberta

[open hare]

I think so.

[summer narwhal]

like does 1 ATK Boost=2 Primary stat?

[open hare]

Until all luck runs out

[open hare]

No?

[bronze plume]

i mean no they can just get the 120 needed for her

[placid knot]

I already lost gilberta on gilberta banner to laevatin again but unfortunately copies doesnt matter much

[open hare]

I suppose. Better grind and hope you get early

[proud vector]

Essences only activate if they match the weapon skill

[summer narwhal]

I'm aware

[open hare]

Copies sometimes matter

[summer narwhal]

I'm trying to find the best ones of what I have for what weapons I've got

[bronze plume]

naur it wouldnt be that hard i got 200 pulls f2p on laevs banner

[open hare]

I have nothing to my name

[bronze plume]

same

[open hare]

If I pull I risk everything

[placid knot]

yeah I am sure I can get to 120 to pull Gilberta no problem f2p + bp + monthly

[bronze plume]

im having to waste pulls on gilbertas banner when i already have gilberta just cuz i want her weapon

[open hare]

But og arknights and discipline tells me there will be a better waifu

[proud vector]

oh, the best one is to match all three skills of your weapon

But from what I hear atk% is pretty valuable

[bronze plume]

and wasting the 6 star pity on it

when i couldve saved it for rossi banner

but alas cant get arsenal tickets another way

[open hare]

It is?

[summer narwhal]

yeah, best I've got is 2/3

[mystic halo]

atk is so good in this game

[open hare]

Hey Beef, someone said atk% is good

[proud vector]

There is a lot that goes into the dmg% bucket apparently so ATK is good?

[bronze plume]

thats accurate'

[open hare]

So it's good I got 8/9 atk% right?

[mystic halo]

you need to max it out anyway

[gritty olive]

because its essentially a separate mulitplier for damage

[bronze plume]

obviously its good when you upgrade the essence of a weapon

[placid knot]

What team do you play Laevatain with?

[gritty olive]

if its atk% on weapon, which is usually a base attack buff

[open hare]

Someone said that alreadyb

[mystic halo]

well you do

[gritty olive]

you might even consider it be a separte multiplier since its not additive to anything else

[dry kindle]

How much we betting on umbral rewards post being a leak or datamine

[mystic halo]

bro

[gritty olive]

[ashen scroll]

asking leak to the blue frog people

[gritty olive]

[ashen scroll]

[open hare]

Umbral will be good based on my experience with other games

At least decent

[dry kindle]

Datamines are fine

So

[bronze plume]

im expecting 2 pulls max

[open hare]

So max atk first?

[bronze plume]

ill be surprised with anything over that

[dry kindle]

Its just idk if its a datamine or not

[open hare]

Perhaps

Free crowns though

[open hare]

I already have enough to max my Last rite

Just need 36 of green vials and blue cubes

[bronze plume]

i have 1 crown to my name

[open hare]

I already spent 24 man

I need more....

[bronze plume]

we do a little trolling

[open hare]

Where's my Lappland and Texas Yuri

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-texas-lappland-closures-secret-files-morale-minus1-gif-22737718

[ashen scroll]

Ardelia fan cheating on dementia woman

[bronze plume]

bugging ahh gif

[ashen scroll]

I bet her pink purse is gift from you too

Im telling

[bronze plume]

if the game gave me more crowns ardelia would m12 as well

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/lappland-texas-arknights-arknights-base-chibi-arknights-base-gif-11893905683071301421

[bronze plume]

soon

i might max her essence first tho

[open hare]

Im gonna Minecraft you

[bronze plume]

since thats acutally a upgrade

[proud vector]

[open hare]

Classic minecraft

[bronze plume]

and thats where

i ignore the person

[open hare]

Lol

[ashen scroll]

What person

[open hare]

Me

[proud vector]

tfw they don’t even have a 1 tick setup

[open hare]

Cause of this

Mam

Man

[proud vector]

It’s gone

[open hare]

Aw dang it

[proud vector]

gasp

[open hare]

Yeah it got deleted and I am gonna assume I get warned somewhere

[ashen scroll]

Gonna got your balls twisted

[open hare]

Pretty much

First time I'll get warned in forever lol

[dry kindle]

What I miss

[open hare]

I put a gif and mods deleted it

[bronze plume]

nothing relevant

[dry kindle]

L

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466958391174889722/1469332220689911850/95432420d712308dc0cf6101605d37938489578_________________1.webp

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-977282450591946462

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

im kinda surprised we dont even have like a weekly or bi weekly income of standard banner pull tickets

[open hare]

I wish we had those

Would be nice right?

[bronze plume]

man

[proud vector]

I get why it isn’t part of the regional ticket stuff, because that would imply that your income increases per region

[gritty olive]

hsr has one with sim uni

[proud vector]

But it is kinda sad that they are one time only

[bronze plume]

do i just forgo getting the 6 star pity on gilbertas banner and somehow just cope with hoping i get her weapon without pulling on character banners

[open hare]

A influx of standard banner pulls would be great

[gritty olive]

its still kinda poor, like one per week

[open hare]

They should give us standard pulls on umbral if possible

I'd be fine with 2

[bronze plume]

just make etchspace do something man

[open hare]

Expand it?

[bronze plume]

its just wasted game space outside of doing it one time

[bronze plume]

i mean we know that it has areas 4 5 and 6

so it will most likely get expanded on in the future

[dry kindle]

Where are the dataminers at waaah

[dire nymph]

is umbral weekly or

[open hare]

They should let us convert auralyne crystals to materials for our commission's

[dire nymph]

i dont read

[open hare]

Is this a good idea

[mystic halo]

we can tell

[bronze plume]

but whats the point if its still just more one time rewards

[proud vector]

I mean judging by the tibits of plot it’s probably plot relevant at some point

[bronze plume]

its a permanent gamemode with permanent rewards that are leveling up rewards and then each patch is has challenges that reward you with oroberyl

[dire nymph]

thx

[mystic halo]

every patch, they add 1 more sand worm to that stage

[bold rose]

are we gonna get the EF equivalent to IS

[bronze plume]

and 1 more oroberyl

[mystic halo]

the year is 2030

we have 60 sandworms in one stage

that is the endgame

[bronze plume]

we do not know any upcoming gamemode outside of what 1.0 has

[open hare]

Sandworm fog

[bronze plume]

theres nothing like IS so far

[proud vector]

By then I assume one operator at least can fly

[open hare]

The sandworm fog is coming

[bronze plume]

if they could they would literally let the one who can manipulate gravity of things do it

[ashen scroll]

I want annihilation mode and you can use towers , its like incursion but bigger

[proud vector]

yeah, real shame. She gets to float a little? But it’s cosmetic

[open hare]

Leave it to the people who get out of bounds somehow

[bronze plume]

we literally see gilberta make a space that stops rain

[dry kindle]

Go datamine game yes yes

[bronze plume]

why cant i fly bro

[open hare]

We need better towers

[mystic halo]

lae OOB was patched so the best op at getting OOB now is ard

[bronze plume]

OOB?

oh

damn im a bad gamer

[proud vector]

Out of bounds

[bronze plume]

failure of my craft

[ashen scroll]

Dash twice

[bronze plume]

thats not flying

[proud vector]

don’t you still drown

[open hare]

Failure of my craft is crazy

[bronze plume]

thats slightly levatating above the ground

[ashen scroll]

Use to it

[open hare]

I haven't failed my craft... Yet...

[ashen scroll]

I atleast drowned 5 times a day in wuling

[bronze plume]

clearly the water on talos 2 has such a strong gravitational pull you can even fly over it let alone swim

[open hare]

You slip and fall into the water we cant swim

[bronze plume]

did you see that one seen gang

[lusty kernel]

Yooooo

[bronze plume]

clearly those currents are op

[open hare]

The wuthering

[gritty olive]

even with umbral somehow its getting edged

[bronze plume]

guys i figured it out

this is clearly how i get gilbertas weapon without wasting my 6 star pity

[lusty kernel]

I thought i bricked my weapon pulls, i just got my gilberta and im 40 pulls away from weapon guarantee, and my weapon currency is only for 1 multi and i got her weapon lol

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[bronze plume]

this is what the system wants

[ashen scroll]

No way 90% off??? ( it the original price)

[bronze plume]

and ill cave for the waifus and still complain raaah

they cant stop me raaah

[soft tendon]

im assuming standard is tide surge + 3pc hot work?

[open hare]

Oguri

Can you eat the landbreakers

[bronze plume]

there saying that arsenal tickets are so hard to get its a 90% deal or someshii probably

[ashen scroll]

I mean why would you give many 6☆ , ofc to get more arsenal

[soft tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-oguri-cap-eating-anime-cheeks-gif-16060731915886780886

[bronze plume]

they just slap that kinda thing on to make dumbo brain go ooh good value for money

its a normal marketing scheme

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-jack-black-awkward-gif-4691467854324958416

[gritty olive]

this vs that , but i havent removed pyrometer

hold on

[lime nacelle]

If that's 90% off... holy.

[bronze plume]

same reason the biggest packs have Great Value or recommended on them

[dry mason]

surely Zhuang Fengyi will use this right

[open hare]

Mod Apprentice

[dry mason]

[open hare]

Am I allowed to curse

[gritty olive]

good now

[lusty kernel]

Fake percentage sale probably

[open hare]

[gritty olive]

if you arent actively hurting other people like me telling you yorue a stupid fucking bitch its fine

we all curse all the time

[blazing lake]

what country is this

[open hare]

Well damn

[soft tendon]

tbh seems pretty understandable that umbral ult gain performs slightly worse since no basic gigabuff from forgeborn

[lime nacelle]

Hey. 😠

[bronze plume]

idk what country do you think is NZ

[open hare]

New Zealand?

Wait

[gritty olive]

north zombie

[open hare]

I failed my teacher

[lime nacelle]

I came here to have a good time and I'm honestly feeling so... T-T...TRIGGERED right meow!

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466958391174889722/1469332220689911850/95432420d712308dc0cf6101605d37938489578_________________1.webp

[open hare]

Dommslauer

Dommauer

[bronze plume]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

[blazing lake]

idk ive never seen this before

[bronze plume]

what atomic said

[open hare]

wait

Im right?

[lime nacelle]

Is correct.

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/fast-cat-cat-excited-jumping-gif-5054843775616689213

[bronze plume]

shocking NZ is N ew Z ealand

[glad cloud]

does laeva need her sig weapon or no

[open hare]

Everything is cheaper for me so...

Everything is in Yen for me

[bronze plume]

want not need

[ashen scroll]

NightZmoran obiviously

[gritty olive]

want not need atm

[bronze plume]

is that a reference to something even

[open hare]

Yes, makes her eat more ice cream

[bronze plume]

stoping copying my flow gang

[open hare]

More ice cream=more power

[bronze plume]

stoping copying

[rare zodiac]

not mine but truly a begone hp bar moment

[bronze plume]

goofy mf

[open hare]

More power = more ice cream

[open hare]

Holy what

[gritty olive]

something like this is a normal atk buff right

[open hare]

Yeah?

[ashen scroll]

Its ppl that fight collapsal

[gritty olive]

how else wouldve i compressed that surtr wants sig but not "need" it

[ashen scroll]

[bronze plume]

idk bro thats for you to figure out cuz i said it first gang

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-ho'olheyak-gif-18239616385602713305

War criminal

[gritty olive]

[bronze plume]

you snooze you lose type shii

[open hare]

We need snake lady

Hey guys, when do we get our war criminals back

I want a refund from Priestess

I need my meta team now

[ashen scroll]

I see no crime

Like why would you need war crimes

[open hare]

Why not

[ashen scroll]

We just sell medicine to uncureable cancer that we also caused

[open hare]

Wis'Adel

[elfin reef]

on akekuri do i need to lvl her skills for the buff to work or i can just leave it lvl 1?
or does lvl the ult also make the buff stronger?

[ashen scroll]

Totaly legal