theorycrafting

[rare zodiac]

i am more concerning about gear, there is no good Str/Agi piece

[harsh slate]

But they can't handle Delete OP like Emperor Blades, Demon King Amiya nuke, etc

Anything that force remove your op

[fallen breach]

@open hare

Fish team

[rare zodiac]

the girl with 10k atk? i do not pity strong people

[high finch]

Finally almost done with my lava. 90 gel and shes 9/9/4 fully artificed. I dunno if I wanna waste mats to lvl her Chestpiece energy regen I doubt it will change something but the rest is done

[open hare]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-me-baby-yasuna-oribe-sonya-anime-meme-gif-6598509120576676898

[rare zodiac]

12 to 16 efficiency will still need 2BS 3CS anyway

[high finch]

Yeah so it’s no point in lvling that

Even if I fully artifice chest regen it won’t change the rotation,right?

[harsh slate]

Oh right anyone who play OG Ak going pull for the Collab characters

[drifting quest]

yes

[outer ermine]

yes

[drifting quest]

sakiko > sash2 pram2 > maybe titi > wang chen3

sadly gotta skip mantra and nasti

[open hare]

Yes

[outer ermine]

i havent been logging in so im kinda cooked tho, plus 2 300 in a row is depressing so

[harsh slate]

[outer ermine]

[harsh slate]

Good luck y'all

[drifting quest]

i can guarantee so its chill

i hope not to but meh

[outer ermine]

ill get all in one ten

trust

[harsh slate]

Haha

[gritty olive]

#endfield message

Wrong image

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[drifting quest]

to artifice my laev more or to spend my artificing on phys

[open hare]

Huh

[drifting quest]

i have like 80 im sat on

[open hare]

Just have the components and money lmao

[fallen breach]

@open hare my Wuling base:

[drifting quest]

i have like 20k components, i had some several million stock pills till i bought artificing mats

[high finch]

The problem is laev team has only 1 character you need to artifice and phys is like 3-4

[rare zodiac]

i have cook another Lae ER rot that enable Wulf to EBS, so i am looking for his prefer set as this rot don't need his 237% efficiancy build

[drifting quest]

i am aware

ill be honest a screenshot like that is unparseable

what exactly are you gaining versus losing with ebs

[high finch]

I also want to build phys but it’s so expensive. Like I can image I won’t be done by 1.1 and suddenly new phys character arrives and im cooked

Will have to swap 1 char and build it again from scratches

[rare zodiac]

nothing, i change Lae rot to better perma ult and the sp just come so much that doing EBS on Wulf lose non

[fallen breach]

I dont like it either, realistically ill be playing some other game in less than a month anyway

[rare zodiac]

i already know Clan give good dmg taken debuff

but it can be more

[drifting quest]

stack generation not taking a hit? still slotting in ard skills just fine? reliant on ake combos or ults? giving up laev ebs?

[harsh slate]

My team for Phys

Chen (Of course the Goat)
Pog
Either Endmin or Ember
Last is Ardelia

[high finch]

How the gap got bigger since last time?

[high finch]

Chen is irreplaceable

[fallen breach]

@harsh slate Ardelia isnt going to combo with that team which means no corrosion application which means no phys suscept application.
Use someone else

Ardelia wont combo if theyre vuln

[drifting quest]

ardelia works

[fallen breach]

Nah

[drifting quest]

you just have some delay on rot

its not as good but its competent if lifengless

[fallen breach]

Id use endmin

[rare zodiac]

stack is gud as Lae is ult state 24/7, compare to 80% of the time before, the first rot need delay EBS but second rot onward need non, ake usage reduce as 24/7 ult give good stack income so ake no need BS

[harsh slate]

I see, well I don't think there's any healer for Physical team so not sure

[drifting quest]

physical tends to go sustainless

since sustains in general are pretty mid if not named ardelia

[fallen breach]

Endmin will combo, and endmins ult will do great damage on that team ardelias will do practically nothing

[drifting quest]

what do you mean ult state 24/7

are you ignoring downtime only calcing for ult states

[drifting quest]

endmin is the payoff via crush and ult yes
their slot is not in competition with ardelia's

chen
pog
lifeng/ardelia/some other flex if specific use case
endmin/dapan

[harsh slate]

Hmm then do I put Ember instead of Ardelia? She can heal a bit or was it shield.

[drifting quest]

ardelia will perform better than ember will, of the two

[harsh slate]

Oh okay 👍

[rare zodiac]

no, delay EBS in first rot open up 1 EBS 1 CS right after ult 1 end give you instant full to ult2 to continue stay in ult state

[drifting quest]

is this p4 and full charge, not the hot work gloves var

[rare zodiac]

pot 0 can work if 207% efficiency pot 4 just allow you to tank it down to 181% and get a dps piece

[drifting quest]

no im saying 1 ebs 1 cs should not get ult back

at 207% p0

even at p4 with hot work gloves you dont

oh

monument news

permanent

nice

[harsh slate]

Hmm I hope The Dev won't be as bad as one particular game who have a lot of HP inflation

[drifting quest]

tacticals are still banned in monument

praise

still 10m to clear though

still 1 team

[rare zodiac]

shit it need 212.1% if only 1 EBS 1 CS, my bad, so this is p4 exclusive rot

[drifting quest]

its p4 and 4/4 charge set

[next helm]

Starting to think 7/7/4 is enough

[rare zodiac]

nah p4 can do with 181%

[next helm]

Why is a 1/20 so hard to hit

[dawn patrol]

13s off dorito and 20s off marble

i need to kms

[drifting quest]

(106.5+25)*1.81 = 238.015

where is the extra 17 or so energy from

[rare zodiac]

combo skill give 10, that 25 is extra

so 35

[drifting quest]

it shouldnt be 25 extra it should be 25 replacement

if it were 25 extra then 207 would not be the default breakpoint

207% p0 is usually 1 ebs 1 combo 2 team skills

if it were 25 extra + 10 default then you'd need only 1 team skill and less artificing

by all means double check in game and let me know if this is wrong but

[halcyon zenith]

do we finally have a BiS set for surtr or are people still discussing stuff? ive got p1 and sig if that matters

[lost raft]

what has higher priority, leveling the carry to 90, the weapon to 90, artificing the gear or essencing the essences?

[drifting quest]

its prob like p1 laev i didnt account for

no p1 does nothing

[rare zodiac]

yeah i gonna check it

[drifting quest]

monument is like 3 days off

wait a bit longer

[halcyon zenith]

thanks, will do 👍

[drifting quest]

(just know we're probably waiting for the monument reset 2 weeks after that to know better)

since monument 1 is so easy

[rare zodiac]

it also said to futher gain energy, but Endfield tool tip is untrustable

[ripe parrot]

insert pablo escobar waiting meme here

[fallen breach]

Weapon hands down is first, then operative and skills

[halcyon zenith]

for her team is anything alrdy worth artificing or just wait there too?

[drifting quest]

When the additional attack hits the enemy, restore additional Ultimate Energy.
Additional ATK Ultimate Energy Gain

Laevatain gains 1 stack of Melting Flame and further gains Ultimate Energy per enemy hit.
Ultimate Energy Gain when Hitting 1 Enemy

[ripe parrot]

i'm actually so close to doing trimmed chen solo for rhodagn i can taste it

[drifting quest]

wulf and ake are pretty set minus any huge revelations on the seals charge build, unless you are speedrunning

but you could wait to artifice due to cost

[fallen breach]

These timegates (and there are TONS of them in this game) are why ill get bored and go to another game in a month or less

[halcyon zenith]

i mean do they actually have any stats worth artificing? sorry fot the bad wording on the first question)

and these are their builds right?

[drifting quest]

the ult gain % on theirs too yes

[fallen breach]

You can only do 1 depot run, trade Some stocks, only use so much energy...
Only have so many pulls...
Theres a lot to do in this game but at endgame it quickly becomes a waiting game

[drifting quest]

akekuri doesnt care for frontiers unless speedrunning

just run the same build as wulf but with xiranite gloves

[halcyon zenith]

alright, thanks a bunch!

[fallen breach]

Wait

The one that relies on applying combustion or corrosion ?

[halcyon zenith]

and then artifice ult gain efficiency on both of them and will on akekuri?

[halcyon zenith]

no, the one i posted, all ult gain pieces

[fallen breach]

It only gives the +50% when THAT operator applies it right?

[drifting quest]

just ult gain efficiency, can ignore the rest

[fallen breach]

Oh ok nvm

[halcyon zenith]

tide fall, double seal

[dawn patrol]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[fallen breach]

Gotcha

[dawn patrol]

WAIT NO

[drifting quest]

ake likes int but the gains she gets from artificing are so minor its not worth the cost

[dawn patrol]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[halcyon zenith]

even intellectfor akekuri?

[drifting quest]

see one message above

[fallen breach]

Secondary stat gains are fairly trivial honestly

[halcyon zenith]

ah sry was too slow when asling, thx

[drifting quest]

0 artificing > full artificing is like 2-3 sp

on combo

so its like 6-9 sp at most per fight

usually less

[halcyon zenith]

and akekuri just wants ult maxed, wulfgard doesnt need skill investment, ardelia is like skill, combo ult right? for laev anything worth masterying rn or just wait?

[drifting quest]

ardelia only needs skill

ake only needs ult

wulf needs nothing

[halcyon zenith]

ait perfect

[drifting quest]

laev appreciates ult and skill masteries, combo only if you go from sl7 > m3 and plan around the 1s reduction

some people also just forgo skill masteries on charge build

and na spam

hard to say which is better

[halcyon zenith]

ill probably put m1 on skill and ult for now and call it a day, thanks for the input!

[ripe parrot]

fuck... i'm actually SO CLOSE

[gritty olive]

better rotation, somehow an extra N4 is NOT a dmaage loss for the ultspam

[dawn patrol]

only one left time to wait for ginseng stew

[ripe parrot]

but i feel like stew meeting wouldn't even help

[fallen breach]

For SP gains, perfect dodges give a lot by the way

[lost raft]

at what point artificing the gear is worth it? after or before esences?

[gritty olive]

you can do both at the same time unless you are farming for wuling essences

[ripe parrot]

if you have a laev team, i'm sorry but you must pay your wuling taxes

[gritty olive]

engravement gets in the way with gear making and aritifce purchase

[fallen breach]

Frankly, its best not to even do it right now. You should buy and hoard the cheap ones

[dawn patrol]

if you're farming fodder essence you can still do both

[ripe parrot]

once you get your perfect essence you can stop using engravings and just farm for fodder

[ashen scroll]

You dont even need essence just to get trimmed medal with laevatein anw lol

[gritty olive]

currently im doing essence on wuling

valley iv rather

[ashen scroll]

Gingseng is the way XD

[dawn patrol]

i did rhodagn trim with phys so

[lost raft]

cheap ones? you mean the green thingies to artifice, no? Is there really noone that benefits from doing so? like Ultimate recharge on a specific char or smth?

[dawn patrol]

everyone benefits from some form of artificing but you can just save them until we know more unless you want trims n stuff

[ripe parrot]

after i finish rhod trim i might do marble no hit and then take a short break from the game

been playing too much of this game it's been infecting me

[fallen breach]

For Progressing Players: No. If you are still leveling characters, weapons, or your base (AIC), ignore Artificing for now. It is incredibly resource-intensive and provides marginal gains that you simply don’t need for the current main story or world bosses.

[dawn patrol]

i need marble trim and then i'm done with the 3 buh

i'm still like 20s off it's cooked as hell

[ripe parrot]

i'd also like to say: I HATE DORITO I HATE DORITO I HATE DORITO

[dawn patrol]

dorito is easier than marble though....

[ripe parrot]

no hit dorito with no aoe makes me want to scream

[ashen scroll]

Physical team?

[lost raft]

@dawn patrol @fallen breach ah ok so it's very very low on the "impotant stuff" I see.

ok thank you!

[ripe parrot]

no hit solo chen dorito is aids

[fallen breach]

Why You Might Want to Wait
​Extreme Resource Sink: Artificing costs a significant amount of Wuling Artificing Catalysts and Stock Bills. These are better spent on Engraving Tickets (for weapons), which offer more permanent power spikes.
​Gear Level Cap: Currently, the highest gear is Tier 4 (Level 70). There is a high probability that future updates will introduce Tier 5 (Level 80/90) gear. If you spend all your catalysts now, you may regret it when your "perfect" Level 70 gear is outclassed by base Level 80 gear.
​Low Difficulty: Most players find that a well-built team with standard Gold (Rarity 5) gear can clear all existing content comfortably without any Artificing levels.

[drifting quest]

you should still be buying artificing materials

[ripe parrot]

what's with the chat gpt esque response

[drifting quest]

since it is a sanity-less farm

[dawn patrol]

iirc it was laev

[drifting quest]

just dont commit to spending them

[elfin reef]

whats this for

[dawn patrol]

phys was like 30 something seconds off

[drifting quest]

(we wont get t5 gear anytime soon)

if ever

[dawn patrol]

god i hope not

[ripe parrot]

we'll probably get more diverse gear sets instead

[ashen scroll]

Is that 20s gap even after u do good rotation?

[drifting quest]

yeah

we'll 100% get more sets

[ripe parrot]

maybe have a support set that isn't just disguised ult efficiency

[twilit quail]

TEN MORE PATCHES OF SLAB BUILDS

[fallen breach]

If you ARE artificing:
​Stop at Level 1: The first upgrade level is relatively cheap and has the highest success rate. It provides a nice 10-15% stat bump for a fraction of the cost of Level 3.

[dawn patrol]

nah my rotations are still kinda ass but i'm just waiting for ginseng anyway

[drifting quest]

when we get 2.0 we might get t5 gear but id expect t5 gear doesnt come until like 3.0+ if it ever comes

[drifting quest]

how many is it now

7?

[halcyon zenith]

if i already have laev weapon essence, what do i buy after the 60 95% discoutn catalysts?
the 90% discoutn catalysts or the 95% discoutn engrvaing tickets?

[ashen scroll]

Ngl correct rotation make ALOT of different

[ripe parrot]

you can just hold onto your bucks because they're expensive

unless for some reason you're capping out

[halcyon zenith]

but what would i be holding onto them for?

also then id be capping otu somewhat quickly

i make like 6+ million a week

[ashen scroll]

Bike, drill machine thingy and tianshi pillar lmao

[dawn patrol]

i thought you meant per day in wuling and i was about to kill you

[halcyon zenith]

only pillar is in wuling

[dawn patrol]

who out here making 6m a day in wuling bruh

[ripe parrot]

we wish

[dawn patrol]

6m a day in valley iv take it or leave it

[halcyon zenith]

that i am doing per day xD

[fallen breach]

Depends on the team but youre right.
In most cases if you dont utilize "burst windows" effectively you lose a lot of potential dps, also you can mess up combo skill procs and other synergies using the wrong battle arts for your team

[drifting quest]

buy out all your 60k catalysts each week
spend excess either on 12k catalyst permanent stockpile or 120k engraving tickets

[ashen scroll]

That alot of word for nothing

[halcyon zenith]

so do i buy not so cheap catalysts or essence permits i dont need?

[foggy birch]

What's best for wulfgard in laevs team, pot 1 wedge or pot4 rational??

[halcyon zenith]

stockpile is already bought out

[fallen breach]

I was agreeing with u, rudeass

[ashen scroll]

Yes

[dawn patrol]

i stupidly spent stockpile on phys team when i didn't even have pog 💔

now i have no catalysts for laev

[halcyon zenith]

6* selector ftw

[dawn patrol]

tragic

[ripe parrot]

I wonder if p4 -> p5 chen would make up 10s on rhodagn. you'd go from like 7 casts of CS to like 9 (assuming perfect play)

i'm broke on orundum though

[ashen scroll]

There is no time rush event you know take your time

[dawn patrol]

i want the trims NOW

[ripe parrot]

what's the HP for level 90 rhodagn again?

[ashen scroll]

Here iam level 69 all my benched operators , i got my trim already tho

[dawn patrol]

maybe tomorrow or whenever i have ginseng stew

[dawn patrol]

2292909

2.3mil pretty much

[ashen scroll]

That like 4 laeva battle skill ( with ultimate )

[drifting quest]

you begin to understand why rhodagn is the fraud we test damage on

the speedrun target

[dawn patrol]

kinda wanna do marble attempts but i don't have any ginseng stew yet

[ripe parrot]

I feel like 2 extra CS won't make up for 10s of combat

[gritty olive]

Just a bit more

[ripe parrot]

i guess this is just a skill issue

[fallen breach]

When enemy is staggered, the modifier applied actually depends on the enemy.
They also have different resists so... sure test but it wont be the same result on differing enemies

[ashen scroll]

What this build do

[gritty olive]

ult at one enhanced skill, one laev combo, two skills from other allies

[gritty olive]

which modifier?

[fallen breach]

Staggered enemies

[gritty olive]

they take in 30% more damage

that should be standard

[ashen scroll]

With no active set? Is it worth it or still experimental?

[fallen breach]

Its not the same it actually depends on enemy

[gritty olive]

someone used my sims to calculate it being 20-30% stronger

[ashen scroll]

Heh that fine

[gritty olive]

can i see again some active example

sheets still wip

[ashen scroll]

What your peak time

[drifting quest]

wasnt the current understanding that there could be differences in future but all current ones have the same coefficient

did we find an exception

[ripe parrot]

ahhhh holy shit no wonder i'm doing so much less damage than another solo chen they're running rapid ascent and ulting when staggered

maybe I just ult as much as possible instead and stew meeting my way to victory

since i have sundering steel

[gritty olive]

i havent tested it yet but im seeing the potentiap

[fallen breach]

@gritty olive its 1.3 damage multiplier by itself, but since bosses have higher and varying defenses, it doesnt equate to a +30% multiplicative modifier like youd expect unless you have their defenses very debuffed, in which case you end up with way more than just 30%

[ripe parrot]

maybe my opening would be double BS to proc sundering steel passive -> ult

no wait BS -> CS instead yeah

[drifting quest]

what

they're in different parts of the formula

[gritty olive]

show me an active counterexample without buffs/debuffs if eve r

you can just send one normal attack before and after stagger and get the ratios to be 1 is to 1.3 and id believe you

[fallen breach]

Its a multiplicative modifier, you know what that means right?

[gritty olive]

yeah and youre saying that the total difference might be higher due to other stuff

[fallen breach]

Essentially its WAY more than a 1.3 multiplier to your damages

If youre using debuffs

But if there ARENT debuffs, its waaay less effective

[gritty olive]

which i want you to give an example of
im just taking plain old damage. and youre saying "its way more than 30% cuz youre dealign debuffs and youre having buffs"

which is like expected already

[drifting quest]

when you debuff the enemy (introduce more multiplicative modifiers) the final multiplicative modifier changes

its a nothingburger statement

[summer flower]

Ehh, is it diluted? Or why would non diluted DMG increase be lower than .3?

[drifting quest]

its an extra 1.3x

[summer flower]

So dilution?

[drifting quest]

no

[fallen breach]

@summer flower yes, if you dont debuff them, their defenses REDUCE the modified damage a lot

[summer flower]

How does defense then work?

[ashen scroll]

Kuratine which sims did you use?

[drifting quest]

i get what you are saying but its incredibly misleading

[summer flower]

Like is it both flat and %?

I'm Getting confused

Because i was almost starting circle of question, wait, go back to question same as it was before

[drifting quest]

staggered mult is x1.3

they are saying the final mult on damage will in practice be different because of other factors

which is like

yeah of course

[barren crypt]

[fallen breach]

Its a Multiplicative damage modifier, dude was acting like he doesnt know what that means asking for examples

How am i supposed to explain it better

[drifting quest]

talking about defense values changing it is just misleading

its as simple as when staggered damage is x1.3

[gritty olive]

stagger mult changing ≠ def mult chanfing

stagger mult is
if not stagger, damage 1x
if stagger, damage 1.3x

[drifting quest]

like the same debuffs on the enemy pre vs post stagger

still means x1.3

[fallen breach]

They DO drastically change the end result because debuffing enemys defenses is ANOTHER multiplicative modifier

[gritty olive]

im only talking about stagger mult alone

[fallen breach]

It never actually equates to +30%

In the end

[gritty olive]

then give me a counterexample

[drifting quest]

you're comparing non debuffed pre stagger to debuffed post stagger

[fallen breach]

Was my ppint

[drifting quest]

like ???

of course then its confusing

if its debuffed pre stagger vs debuffed post stagger

[fallen breach]

Now youre making things up

[gritty olive]

enemy same debuffs pre and post stagger, and land an N1

[drifting quest]

the difference is still the 30%

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?usp=drivesdk

[fallen breach]

It literally isnt 30%, it is a 1.3x effect.
Its not the same

[twin plover]

Apply the same debuffs before stun + hit them

Apply the same debuffs during stun + hit them

If the ratio is 1.3 then it's mult 1.3, no?

[drifting quest]

"its not 30% its just the equivilant of 30% on a multiplier"

????????

[gritty olive]

since its a different multiplier, it might as well be a flat 30% increase

[ashen scroll]

Im so confused , maybe he just like a league smarter

[gritty olive]

1.3x and 30% increase is equivalent if theres no other multiplier that could affect that

[drifting quest]

1.3x is the same as saying 30% more damage

[twilit quail]

what in the

[gritty olive]

unless "deal more damage to staggered enemies" that goes to the dmg% multiplier, not the stagger mult

[drifting quest]

average theorycrafting channel discussion

[gritty olive]

@twilit quail LB laev ult spam is 20% stronfer for now

[ashen scroll]

So doenst matter if it got debuffed , 0 defense or whatever if they got stagger your final damage + 30%?

[gritty olive]

[twilit quail]

ok

[fallen breach]

These children dont understand the difference between an additive multiplier and a multiplicative modifier.
I am done engaging feels like being trolled

[drifting quest]

????????????????????????

[neat snow]

😂

[gritty olive]

the stagger mult multiplier is a multiplicative modifier independent of everything else

[twin plover]

Good bait I guess?

[fallen breach]

Arguing to argue

[twilit quail]

ok wait

[fallen breach]

Yes

[twilit quail]

is the misconception here about the stagger bonus on gear that goes into dmg% zone

or what

[barren crypt]

guy spouted nothingburger and then proceeded to insult people who were discussing with him calmly

[drifting quest]

maybe

actually

[ashen scroll]

Can third party get this straight lmao

[gritty olive]

thats the same as having 30% "more damage"

[drifting quest]

we were talking about the stagger mult

[twilit quail]

what's going on

[gritty olive]

thats not going to the dmg% formula

[fallen breach]

It is in its own category, like crit

[drifting quest]

maybe they thought we meant the dmg% bonuses on gear yeah

that would explain it

[gritty olive]

yes i think were on the same page here

[gritty olive]

which is why this is confusing since youre sayingimplying its on a case by case basis on what the stagger mult would be, from my own interpretation

[fossil narwhal]

do i even artifice +skill dmg on laevatain? Feels kinda useless

it's already hella diluted

[drifting quest]

it depends ™

[fallen breach]

The POINT i was making was simply that it is a multiplicative modifier, thus is will NEVER actually equate to +30% damage unless you have absolutely no buffs or debuffs, no crit, etc

[drifting quest]

ok but the STAGGER MODIFIER ITSELF is 30%

its useless to talk about the FINAL MODIFIER because its so varied

[barren crypt]

😂 😂 😂 😂

[gritty olive]

whats the difference of +30% and 1.3x

[neat snow]

[fallen breach]

But i got people seemingly purposely confusing people with worse explanations of what i just said

[drifting quest]

if you are comparing two final modifiers where the ONLY DIFFERENCE is stagger then it's 30%

[fallen breach]

Plz stop

[drifting quest]

which is what we have been saying

[drifting quest]

the way you are phrasing it makes it sound like the stagger modifier changes based on context

which it does not

[fallen breach]

@drifting quest blocked for obviously attempting to argue for absolutely no reason

[ashen scroll]

Mine use them but only because i happen to pull weapon copy, the burst damage kinda scary 🫠

[drifting quest]

?????

lmfao

my bad for trying to correct misleading wording in a theorycrafting channel i guess

[gritty olive]

.lookinside

[tranquil burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1460761780866519173/T3R.png?ex=696817ec&is=6966c66c&hm=513939e651da4684d6bdcc0e9f34ed325e5410f4168763af633d92aa9e3de81c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=406&height=404

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[heady jungle]

So I got lifeng weapon, should I continue for da pan signature or save my pull?

[drifting quest]

i love the mon3tr meme

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396872298027417705/1427934925931151446/A0C99YAVH3JRMESW_AJ1.gif

[drifting quest]

not particularly worth the investment for the gains

[ashen scroll]

Ngl i confused on what point both party trying to make , can u dum it down alittle please

[drifting quest]

canal is good enough, esp if dapan gets confused

[fallen breach]

I wasnt using "misleading" wording either

[drifting quest]

me and morbika are saying simply
Stagger modifier = x1.3 or 30% more damage
they are saying if you also include other factors like debuffs, defense shred, yada yada, then the final modifier is different, but the way they had said it made it come across as though they were suggesting the stagger modifier changes

[twin plover]

Do we have the entire dmg formula figured out already?

[drifting quest]

yes ™

[fallen breach]

@drifting quest wrong

[ashen scroll]

From this picture i get is that if the enemy stagered = all your damage after calculated + 30%

[neat snow]

I thought you block him

[drifting quest]

it gets tweaked a few times here and there since release, fixing outdated info, etc

but it's pretty accurate

[ashen scroll]

[drifting quest]

enough that damage is calculable now and reflected in game

[fallen breach]

Again, this clown accusing me of being misleading.
Nothing I said was misleading youre just TRYING to argue

[drifting quest]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

its worth the read if you're interested in TC

[ashen scroll]

So even if you use debuff etc , the bonus is stay on 30%?

[twin plover]

Thanks a lot

[drifting quest]

it's multiplicative so it's share in the formula is always either x1 or x1.3

[ashen scroll]

Oh multiplicative

[drifting quest]

until we get new enemies with new stagger coefficients

then it changes

[fallen breach]

Its a multiplicative 1.3x modifier.
Its not the same as +30% damage.

[barren crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-stupid-people-oh-my-god-omg-oh-my-gosh-gif-22026951

[summer flower]

How does defense on enemy work?

[drifting quest]

but for now, in 1.0, every stagger coefficient is 1.3

[summer flower]

If its flat then stagger should be more than 30% dmg number seen

[twin plover]

If I have 0% dng baseline and get a +100% dmg buff. How much of a dmg increase would that be according to you?

[fossil narwhal]

do you need to raise ardelia level just for will treatment bonus in umbral? it seems like that mode does a shit ton dmg to you

[fallen breach]

What you just typed at me does not apply to this game.
Like seriously, quit

[gritty olive]

520 -> 676

[ashen scroll]

Im confused man , isnt 1.3 are 30% more damage im too dum for this

[drifting quest]

nowaying

[gritty olive]

A 1.3 multiplier = effectively 30% more

[drifting quest]

they're assuming we think all multipliers are additive which not once has anyone sai

d

so its just yaknow

bait used to be believable

[gritty olive]

Since it doesnt add to anything else, can consider it as a multiplicative factor

[drowsy cosmos]

What's the atk cap?

[gritty olive]

So far none

[drifting quest]

define cap

^

[neat snow]

Maybe a billion

[gritty olive]

Probably highest theoretical attack?

[twin plover]

This is cap

[drifting quest]

highest we've seen is 15-18k or so

[drowsy cosmos]

What's the highest atk you've seen on a character?

[summer flower]

Okay what case then its less than 30% @drifting quest

[gritty olive]

Currently like 8k?

[drowsy cosmos]

How is it achieved?

[drifting quest]

lifeng gaming, p3, sig

[ashen scroll]

Wait what

15k atk??

[drifting quest]

probably with ginseng stew, thermite,other external attack buffs

slabs

etc etc

[drowsy cosmos]

Show pls

[drifting quest]

i dont have a screenshot on hand

its on bilibili

a real example

the rest is theoretical calcs

[drowsy cosmos]

Got a link?

[gritty olive]

were calling it +30% “””””damage”””””, not 30% dmg bonus for some distinction

[drifting quest]

not on hand

[drowsy cosmos]

[ashen scroll]

My pot 5 laeva with gingseng and buff are like 7-8k ish 15k is insane

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

lifeng has 3 secondary stats and a main stat

[gritty olive]

Notice how i never said its damage bonus
It was always “+30% more damage”

[drifting quest]

so go figure his attack is higher

[drowsy cosmos]

6.5k my best

[summer flower]

If stagger is just separate from everything

[drifting quest]

p3 makesh im have 3 main stats and a secondary stat

[summer flower]

How do you get lower than 30%?

[ashen scroll]

Pot 0 isnt

[drowsy cosmos]

What's pot 0

[gritty olive]

Youre missing something crucial here atm

[ashen scroll]

Your weapon

[gritty olive]

Pot0 = weapon without dupes

[drifting quest]

i love ms paint style edits

[summer flower]

Someone claimed 20% to 30%

[drifting quest]

its like a teacher marking homework

[drowsy cosmos]

Oh yah it's potential 0

[gritty olive]

I need a counter example

[drowsy cosmos]

Tadaaa

[ashen scroll]

Physical team does looks crazy constant damage from videos i seen , never thought this much

[drifting quest]

phys has the highest consistent dps scaling and its not particularly close

it just lacks the burst potential of other comps

[ashen scroll]

Yes mine is max pot so your build probably better than mine lmao

[fossil narwhal]

oh my god he's slabbing

[gritty olive]

Slab

[drowsy cosmos]

Nah cause your weapon's attack buff doesn't show up on the stat page

[gritty olive]

❤️

[drowsy cosmos]

Of course

[kindred sorrel]

why did you mastery basic attack over ultimate lmao

[ashen scroll]

Oh i dont know that

[drowsy cosmos]

I don't use meta Laevetain team

I just use random favorite bullshit go

So I find myself using her normal and skill more than her ultimate

[gritty olive]

cool

[kindred sorrel]

then why are you in theorycrafting bruh

[gritty olive]

@kindred sorrel asking for highest potential atk

[kindred sorrel]

theres nothing to theorycraft if you just use random stuff

[gritty olive]

then showed their laev

[drowsy cosmos]

To learn what other people have come up with

[gritty olive]

[gritty olive]

do

[summer flower]

This

[fossil narwhal]

u should remove her sig because it skews her dmg to ult only. random bullshit = no ult.

[drowsy cosmos]

I want to see other's highest potential attack and learn how they got there

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466958391174889722/1469332220689911850/95432420d712308dc0cf6101605d37938489578_________________1.webp

[neat snow]

You need another slab

[kindred sorrel]

same as anyone else, artificing and essences

[summer flower]

Ohh wait

[gritty olive]

one slab aint enough brother

[summer flower]

Different context

Nvm

[gritty olive]

im still exploring so sheets would wait

[drowsy cosmos]

But two slab means losing out on set effect damage

[kindred sorrel]

do it anyway

more attack

[gritty olive]

@drowsy cosmos im doing ult soam laev

[dire nymph]

do it for the atk screenshot

[gritty olive]

Extremely funny ass

[kindred sorrel]

since you run random stuff anyway lmao

[fossil narwhal]

u won't be triggering the set effect in a random comp bro

[drowsy cosmos]

[dire nymph]

theres also a protocol space that buffs ur atk forgot which one it was

[kindred sorrel]

might as well go max attack and double slab

[gritty olive]

No ser

[kindred sorrel]

same

[bitter cove]

🐳

[ashen scroll]

[fallen breach]

Final attack you mean?

Yes and it buffs it by a LOT

[gritty olive]

is that a normal atk% or base atk%

[dire nymph]

i randomly went to like 7.2k atk on lifeng

[gritty olive]

or like yet another final multiplier

[gritty olive]

I did my stock too lare

[drowsy cosmos]

How much damage yah deal with this

[gritty olive]

[gritty olive]

Not high, but offset by ult every 300 sp

Its pretty poggers

[gritty olive]

Ake e -> wulf c -> ake e -> surtr enhanced skill -> ult

Ake e -> wulf c -> wulf q -> surtr enhance dskill -> ult

Omitted the combo of eyja and surtr but you should get what i mean

[fallen breach]

On god bet no cap sheesh cooked pog unc is cringe

Im leavin this discord im too old for this shite bye

[dire nymph]

67

[ashen scroll]

Do we not touch eyja combo atall?

[fallen breach]

I wont be back lol

[gritty olive]

We do

[drowsy cosmos]

Does your ult go up fast enough to spam it?

[gritty olive]

I said i omitted it

[gritty olive]

Yes LOL

[drifting quest]

well that was something

[drowsy cosmos]

This is the team I use

[dire nymph]

finally

anyways

[gritty olive]

@drowsy cosmos video incomong

ill record

[dire nymph]

can i just get wulfgard akekuri ardelia to 60/80 then be done with them

[barren crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/naruhodo-gif-21492424

[dire nymph]

i have never checked their kits + never touched laev

[barren crypt]

really interesting

[gritty olive]

@drowsy cosmos peak as fuck

[next helm]

Imagine a game that doesn't lag

[barren crypt]

that's hella fast

[gritty olive]

You need artificed gear tho

[ashen scroll]

Ok that actualy insanely fast

[next helm]

So if you have sig its always worth it to go for ult set?

[kindred sorrel]

no

depends on the content

[barren crypt]

I wanna try that once I can get those stuffs artificed to max

[gritty olive]

Currently my sims say yes

[barren crypt]

looks very fun

[gritty olive]

Aganst one enemy

100000% will get adjusted later

[drowsy cosmos]

Random bullshit go!!!

[kindred sorrel]

just max out your weapon and it'll mostly be worth it to run charge set

[mortal wolf]

Ok I'm asking this here again 👀

Does Pogran boost SP well for Laeva? Overworld reasons

[drowsy cosmos]

Kinda hard to do that

[kindred sorrel]

idk if i should work on electric team or phys team next

[ashen scroll]

I kinda want to try this build since if her ult up faster i wont be worried so much woth skill point management

[fair thicket]

i've read the damage doc
so every buff "damage bonus" (from equipment, weapon, etc) are additive?

[gritty olive]

yes

[fair thicket]

sad, but make it easier to build i guess

[drowsy cosmos]

It seems my random bullshit is viable for the meta

Such freedom is unheard of

[next helm]

Maybe a future set will give some more team ult regen

[gritty olive]

if it werent, ten 10% dmg buffs amounts to an effective 164% dmg biff

[kindred sorrel]

meta doesnt matter right now when we basically have no end game content

[gritty olive]

i mean in arknights not a lot of people interact woth endgame as well

unless its a source of pulls

[dawn patrol]

can't wait for vector breakthrough 2

[woeful plume]

er build mentioned

[gritty olive]

imagine if it doesnt
"ughh why do i need to do this"
imafine if it does
"ughh why do i need to do this"

[ashen scroll]

I follow the meta to save resources

[fair thicket]

i mean, elemental and skill could have been multiplicative (with elemental being additive with elemental (same for skill))

[gritty olive]

we have other multipliers for snowballing damage

anyways look at my nian bean

very cute as bean

[fair thicket]

are they detailed in the doc?

[barren crypt]

what a cute bean

[dawn patrol]

i don't think my laev is badly built why does it feel like she does no damage

[fringe dirge]

What's the damage doc?

[gritty olive]

yes like stagger mult, susceptibilirt, etc

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?usp=drivesdk prob this

[fair thicket]

👍, back to reading then

[gritty olive]

im probably good enough to explain stuff aside from reaction damage

still learning that later

[ashen scroll]

Its feel like it or it actualy does not , which one

[gritty olive]

elaborate?

prob due to lack of combo, no food buff, or no forgeborn

[neat snow]

Get this

[gritty olive]

forgeborn is around 20%-30% stronger than umbral torch
also check essence

[dawn patrol]

she's only hitting like 170k or something on ult ebs

[elfin reef]

somehow i manage to hit 170k dmg on lvl 90 rohdagn boss on ult dmg brr brr yvonne(lvl 70) (lvl80 wedge) is it good or bad

[ashen scroll]

What the average? Mine do like 350ish

[elfin reef]

dunno

[ashen scroll]

[elfin reef]

im seing on yt i dont know what lvl they at but they doin 200k+

[dawn patrol]

run where i actually managed dorito trim and her damage feels kinda low

[gritty olive]

maybe you came from hsr or genshin that your hits never did crits?

or limbus with poise

[dawn patrol]

noooooooooo

i don't even play poise lmao i'm a bleed truther

[gritty olive]

bl**d

[ashen scroll]

So win rate spamer got it

[dawn patrol]

WOW OK BUDDY

[gritty olive]

.fjall

[tranquil burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086661220040774/1433858574190248148/image.png?ex=6906385b&is=6904e6db&hm=bdae0ff3d263f065cad7a2794b9588c91abed98f886a50b0caa00f551d5c6fd9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=593&height=593

[ashen scroll]

Hehe jk jk

[gritty olive]

no highroll ego

[dawn patrol]

anyway i saw one of my friends do like double my damage with no effort so

[gritty olive]

[dawn patrol]

bruh

[gritty olive]

well i dont play MD
i play IS

[ashen scroll]

Is your gear fully upgraded?

[gritty olive]

IS is beter than whatever MD is going to be

[ashen scroll]

Skill level and stuff

[dawn patrol]

md is goated bc it's literally free

[ashen scroll]

Is your trust 100%?

[drowsy cosmos]

I am strongest Laevetain here at the moment it seems. Show me your build.

[dawn patrol]

she's like ok ig

[ashen scroll]

IS gameplay is better but MD give infinite pulls 🙁

[next helm]

at the end you used ake ult into wulf ult, using the link on his ultimate

[dawn patrol]

"is gameplay is better" mfs when it comes to is3

[gritty olive]

im pretty proud of mind

[dawn patrol]

oh true i don't have link unlocked on ake

[gritty olive]

IS3 D15 ED23 is hard on release but now its whatever

[ashen scroll]

I maxed is3 brother

[drowsy cosmos]

I see. I don't understand why everyone likes that chest piece so much. This is what I use.

[gritty olive]

go play IS5 D18 ED235 no ling

[hollow orchid]

how is my Laev? I think I maxed everything except masteries and Twilight +3

[gritty olive]

no leak all strat

[drowsy cosmos]

The set effect is important but I feel like a huge chunk comes from slab too

[gritty olive]

[drowsy cosmos]

Also show me your essence

Is your essence maxed?

[gritty olive]

id recommend doing ult spam or tidefall and change slab to another pyrometer over that current setup

[neat snow]

Slab boy slab boy

[hollow orchid]

essence is all maxed except twilight, one more upgrade before max

[drowsy cosmos]

I'd wait for supports that enable ult spamming but it also seems like basic attack mastery also contributed to the overall damage of the ult much like Miyabi in ZZZ

[dawn patrol]

not maxed bc yeah

[drowsy cosmos]

Maxing ult might not give you the greatest overall or consistent damage values

[dawn patrol]

they need to release a miyabi type character in this game it'd be peak

[dawn patrol]

vergil type beat

[next helm]

not more hyper carries please

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1469718573550145659/1470265915407990938/DE3BD278-6D13-47F8-92EF-EB98B8B4926F.png?ex=698aab56&is=698959d6&hm=2802eb53125513b7216d524e284c94f3fd9ce3cd1d7d485c9c5e4e7b8719ad16&

[ashen scroll]

Whats up with slab bullying its been a week

[drowsy cosmos]

You'll get there. It makes a huge difference. Max the attack one first then the intelligence one.

[next helm]

[raven escarp]

Damn i thought its for lore

[gritty olive]

Energy gain on low target

[dawn patrol]

it shouldn't be that huge tbh

[drowsy cosmos]

Cause it ruins the organizedness ;>

[neat snow]

Who up slabbin rn

[drifting quest]

premium bait for people thinking its better than it is

esp on laevatein

[drowsy cosmos]

Trust me it is huge

[gritty olive]

#lore-room

[dawn patrol]

it cannot be that huge

[drifting quest]

a lot of early days misinfo was tied to slab

[gritty olive]

slab when i ult every rotation

[dawn patrol]

it's like literally a few levels of essence

[next helm]

slab me

[ashen scroll]

It even got lore damn lmao

[raven escarp]

Yeah but theory crafting and not sticking with the facts

[dire nymph]

i love i wish i could marry it

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

paying for nitro

[drowsy cosmos]

I am a results oriented person so whatever yields the best results I just go with

[gritty olive]

#theorycrafting is 1 person doing calcs and 100000 people doing guesstimates based on anecdotal evidence

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-at-you-gif-15677477317679001616

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884849474583806069/1277773221667541012/speechmemified_pasteimage.gif

[ashen scroll]

Tbf there is no way people would pick BIG attack stat than Big damage number

[drifting quest]

i lost more often than that in hsr

i lost my first like 14-16 50/50's

or well, i had like 1 win in the middle so fake

[drowsy cosmos]

We pick both of course lol

[neat snow]

No offense but that vid showed like 0 dmg bro

You do no dmg

[raven escarp]

Are we still using the docs in pins

[gritty olive]

slab defenders: trust we will always have 10 target scenarios

[drowsy cosmos]

Like the attack stat matters cause it gets multiplied later by the damage multipliers

I saw that skill and basic attack masteries have the largest damage multipliers increase

[drifting quest]

slab defenders about to say umbral 1 and 2 are the norm for endgame from now on

ignoring umbral 3, recrisis

[drowsy cosmos]

And just went with logic and maxed those two first

[gritty olive]

the moment you end your ult rotation once, the ult spam wouldve done two ult rotstions

[drowsy cosmos]

I am quite pleased with the results

[neat snow]

Yep. It's all about ult

[ashen scroll]

Are you sure its not because you already pour in significant amount of resources

[drowsy cosmos]

Anyways be nice to each other even when you are critical lol

It's not that serious

[ashen scroll]

Yes

[gritty olive]

was i that inflammatory to behin with

[raven escarp]

Gilberta good with the free 6 star weapon?

[drowsy cosmos]

Let me know if someone with more atk shows up

[neat snow]

No one is being rude

[drowsy cosmos]

Ping meee

[raven escarp]

@drowsy cosmos

[tender veldt]

regardless, let the man cope

[neat snow]

I just don't see why you would only run 1 slab when you have 2 slots

[gritty olive]

whats better than one

[rare zodiac]

@drifting quest it 25, i test it 1949frogheartbrokenangry

[gritty olive]

two of course

@rare zodiac are you done now

[drifting quest]

yeah

[gritty olive]

pls optimize the no ult spam

its kinda unfair

[drifting quest]

xir glove p4 laev can do it i guess

maybe its worth it for clannibal

[rare zodiac]

i have done that tho?

[gritty olive]

cant optimize further?

[neat snow]

So p5 Laev only need 76.5% ult gain right? I don't need to artifice these last levels?

[gritty olive]

ok ill continue stuff...

[rare zodiac]

that a question that i am not confident enough to answer

[ashen scroll]

Wym no ult spam?

[hollow orchid]

what is the best gear set for laev? Not the best dps for 1 ultimate rotation, but for a consistent one (for example ult -> recharge time -> another ult)

[gritty olive]

you know what i did earlier

[ashen scroll]

Oh the opening

[gritty olive]

you do the energy rotation two times before you do the ult

the ult spam allows you to get ult in one rotation

[elfin reef]

good or nah?
yvonne lvl 70 (wedge lvl80)-no essence T_T im broke
the rest lvl 60
ardelia lvl 70

[drifting quest]

the longer a fight goes on the more the charge build performs better than the hot work build

[gritty olive]

currently my sims with his help are having an affinity with ultspam with forgeborn, thats why im asking him to make it more optimized

[gritty olive]

this is what i jave rn with razors help

[hollow orchid]

thx!

[ashen scroll]

Do we have apps for sims or you do it manualy?

[gritty olive]

still volatile calcs

so its best imo to keep hotworks for now

[neat snow]

With max forge it's just always ult build isn't it

[gritty olive]

the damage calc is automated but the setup for the calcs are not intuitive enough

the best you can do is just edit the combos, which ive done surprisingly well

[hollow orchid]

we need a training mode to calculate the damage we deal for easier calculations, that would be a good QoL. (I might be asking too much ik)

[gritty olive]

so like if you have combo ideas, you can edit the timeline and check if you get a better damage number than what i currently hsve

[ashen scroll]

Probably good enough , i also strugling with energy management sometimes

[raven escarp]

What's the knowledge

[ashen scroll]

Do i inflict or do i debuff then got smacked

[rugged kiln]

Did you guys see the new tweet for umbral?

[rugged kiln]

Cursed

[ashen scroll]

You mean blessing?

[raven escarp]

What

[gritty olive]

thorns my most favorite operator

[gritty olive]

[drifting quest]

Thornification

[gritty olive]

he is my most favorite operator

2nd best is suzuran
3rd is mommy

.mommy

[tranquil burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1394343900260335748/ezgif-4f404687b7d39a.gif

[drifting quest]

My favourite edit is the lodestar one

[rugged kiln]

https://x.com/AKEndfield/status/2020799844705874051

Arknights: Endfield (@AKEndfield)

[Umbral Monument] Gameplay Details

[Umbral Monument] is a permanent, high-difficulty combat mode that features periodic content updates.
Wars, heroes, carnage, and remembrance...

These stories are passed on via untold number of somber snapshots, and do not end even if the

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[grave flame]

do you have link?

[gritty olive]

didnt i alr sent it tou you

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?usp=drivesdk

[unborn island]

does akekuris link buff get consumed when laev uses ult ?

[gritty olive]

this portion is the one you should only cjange

the Unit and Action columns if you so please, and on copy of base sheet if possible as well

[gritty olive]

shouldnt since it doesnt do damage

[raven escarp]

Whats n5

[gritty olive]

normal attack five

so like a full string of normal attacks

[ashen scroll]

Im at pot 12 thorn , if endfield release him its going to be pot 18

[gritty olive]

wtf

[harsh slate]

Oh NO NOT THE THORNIFICATION!

[gritty olive]

i only have m12 thorns

no pots

[harsh slate]

Ohhh lvl 55 I'm only 53 or 54

[raven escarp]

Do u have one with gilberta

No ones telling me whats the specific knowledge

[gritty olive]

sadly no

im focusing on laev for like 3-4 more days

ideally this is done by friday

[ashen scroll]

I have it but its off topic in theorycrafting

[raven escarp]

Slide

[raven escarp]

Whos the one on the right

[harsh slate]

I imagine one of them summoning Doom or a blackhole

[shrewd patrol]

Who's the one in place of Rite?

[gritty olive]

no one is helping me with laev rots. any help?

[ashen scroll]

[shrewd patrol]

Just Surtr it

[harsh slate]

Not sure about their name but I been seeing them more recently, the one with Laevatain I know

[harsh slate]

You need 6 Healers in ENDFIELD/j

[gritty olive]

actually just four rn

nearl, haruka, warfarin, and stainless iirc

[ashen scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-be-like-gif-21802391

[gritty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-surtr-gif-7505215530000710968

[unborn island]

get more healers

[drifting quest]

surtr hospital in the big 2026

[harsh slate]

I want to buy Necrass skin but I'm saving my originium for the Collab character

[gritty olive]

unc still got it

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086672418832394/1454649446435524804/snaplytics_converted_gif12.gif

[ashen scroll]

My goal in enfield is probably just to make "just surtr" practical until thorn release

[shrewd patrol]

How did we go from this to schwing schwing

[shrewd patrol]

Oh hell nah

[harsh slate]

I Wis'adel it

[ashen scroll]

Idk maybe because they release 100 scwing2 operator

[harsh slate]

Facing the wrong side and just for Moral support

[shrewd patrol]

Anyway, when Mudrock in Endfield fr

[drifting quest]

depends how fast warfie is

[gritty olive]

after chen alter alter alter alter

[drifting quest]

chen5

[ashen scroll]

Silverash tequila old horseman etc everyobe scwhing2 now

[shrewd patrol]

Love dem Sarkaz women

[gritty olive]

w on first anniversary or EOS

[harsh slate]

If I'm not wrong Chen from Arknights is Infected

[shrewd patrol]

Nah imma pass on W

Wait

What is W again

[gritty olive]

yes but qianyu is a descendant

[shrewd patrol]

Sarkaz?

[drifting quest]

yes

[shrewd patrol]

[gritty olive]

yeah

ines is caprinae, not sarkaz

[drifting quest]

ines is a poser

[gritty olive]

she carved her horns to look like one

sadly uninfected

[ashen scroll]

You think chen would act like that if not some weird dude gene mixed in?

[gritty olive]

wait nvm shes ifnected

[harsh slate]

Can't wait for AaK to come to ENDFIELD

[drifting quest]

icebreaker games

clueful

[gritty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/suzuran-aak-arknights-ak-gif-16023184456897399330

[harsh slate]

Oh NO OUR LIGHT!

[grave flame]

what this portion represent? not rotation, right?

[drifting quest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8IGRj9O-u4

[gritty olive]

thats rotation

[drifting quest]

still some of the most peak content

[gritty olive]

thats what you can change since changing anything else is gonna make the sheet explode

[grave flame]

ok, is there any dps/damage result? cant find it

[unborn island]

Also Laev when ult after akekuri ults, loses link buff from akekuri but idk if it buffs her EBAs

[ashen scroll]

:THE MUSICAL

[gritty olive]

M21

[civic wolf]

so about that endgame...

does that mean that someone needs to be let go from monophys for Ardelia?

[ashen scroll]

What endgame

[drifting quest]

umbral monument

[ashen scroll]

Its not available yet right?

[civic wolf]

agony mode doesn't allow tacticals so

gg

[gritty olive]

.dodge

[tranquil burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086672418832394/1389988393584169080/GutRVqkaYAAwF2Y.png?ex=68669f11&is=68654d91&hm=96a2cc3db4881912549247e56fb82521d55416007562c05176c2f89248aa1686&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=618&height=795

[gritty olive]

WTF

[ashen scroll]

[raven escarp]

.dodge

[tranquil burrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086672418832394/1389988393584169080/GutRVqkaYAAwF2Y.png?ex=68669f11&is=68654d91&hm=96a2cc3db4881912549247e56fb82521d55416007562c05176c2f89248aa1686&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=618&height=795

[gritty olive]

in controller, you need to mash square for basic attack
but you need to do L1 + right buttons for skill/ult
but if you already did basic attack prior to clicking L1, it just holds your basic attack

thats fucking cool

[harsh slate]

When main story stop us from making Factory

[drifting quest]

learn to dodge

its gonna be so big

[woeful plume]

deserved

obese avy no longer T0

[ashen scroll]

More like , she take a nap then perlica be like
" awake honored brother terra need your aid , the heretic is coming"

[merry silo]

but does it allow food buff

[harsh slate]

Me trying dodging on Neferith rain attack but it always hit me

[summer flower]

Agony?

[drifting quest]

practice makes perfect

[gritty olive]

harder than normal mode

[summer flower]

Not yet released?

[teal escarp]

my skill issue self

[woeful plume]

bro

if umbral monument is 1 team, what even is the end game on this game

[ashen scroll]

Is it the same nefarith golem thingy or new boss?

[gritty olive]

id like to believe theres none

[woeful plume]

u can make sticks and bones clear endgame if its only 1 team

[gritty olive]

so theres no pressurento always adhere to meta

[drifting quest]

recrisis + agony umbral

but yes game is easy

[safe flax]

I need help to trim my medals as well can anyone help me how to beat bosses in 120secs and 240 secs

[summer flower]

Different games intruduced multi team content

[gritty olive]

me too

[amber vapor]

Etchspace protocol 🗿

[summer flower]

Etchspace Has healing orbs

So not really

[woeful plume]

idk i feel like they could make the trim medals harder cuz there is like, no pressure to get them

u arent missing out on premium currency

[next helm]

Ago you can't use heal items

But is it one or multiple floors?

[summer flower]

Man, its supoused to be doable without being complete sweat

[woeful plume]

trim medals?

[summer flower]

Yep

[amber vapor]

Gachas are a casual experience. Go play Ninja Gaiden 4 on the hardest difficulty if you're itching for something real.

[gritty olive]

just realized this guy joined back

😭 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/lapwing-vrchat-hash-pog-poggers-gif-8637199513976746555

[ashen scroll]

Let it go lmao im sure its just misunderstanding

[drifting quest]

https://tenor.com/view/jgmm-cat-meme-ragebait-cat-think-cat-ponder-gif-7034802297606826390

[next helm]

The guy can't be that old

[woeful plume]

its not "something real" i rather have like places to like, feel accomplished for the investment i made on my unit

[dawn patrol]

idk man my units are pretty invested and trims still feel like a slog

[woeful plume]

if you can just make one strong team, whats the point on touching the other teams if they will get any achievement on your behalf

[ashen scroll]

I mean why would casual even care about trimmed medals

[drifting quest]

for fun

for testing

[gritty olive]

diversity

[drifting quest]

adhd brain

[next helm]

Are we playing a game or what?

[summer flower]

Man, 90/90 some masteries, somewhat artifieced gear and good essences on whole team

[woeful plume]

i might have the hoyo virus on this idk

[dawn patrol]

who would play a videogame for fun amirite

[summer flower]

With team Comp being a bit suboptimal

[gritty olive]

cure to this is roguelite endgamemode

[teal escarp]

i will do physical team and eletrical team with zhuang fangyi

[summer flower]

Should allow you to get trimmed

[teal escarp]

just because i love both

[summer flower]

While not being Perfect dodge guy

[amber vapor]

No you don't understand. I need to feel like all the time I've invested into a team was actually worth it and not a wholly superficial act.

[summer flower]

Trimmed are for it

[amber vapor]

Yvonne enjoyers will know this best.

[next helm]

yvonne enjoyer is already having more fun

[summer flower]

Just sweats are Getting there will less investment

Unless i'm mistaken

[woeful plume]

u cant even track your trimmed after the first clear, i wish there was at least an ingame timer bruh 😭

[summer flower]

And most trimmed medal stories are from whales

That have p5 whole team

And every weapon maxed

[drifting quest]

what

[neat snow]

[drifting quest]

people have trimmed with p0 blue gear

[cinder oxide]

Nah pretty sure trimmed is doable

[drifting quest]

there are solo trims

[amber vapor]

An outlier isn't the median bro

[summer flower]

P0 blue gear?

[cinder oxide]

If you put the effort to learn fight

[drifting quest]

the overwhelming amount of trims are p0

[summer flower]

Whole team?

[amber vapor]

This.

[neat snow]

Reddit is crying about trims so I think average player still can't do it

[next helm]

This ardelia good enough

[dry kindle]

how many of them are rhodagn

[amber vapor]

Literally all it takes is learning the boss's moveset and attenuating your rotation to that

[dawn patrol]

okay but am i actually stupid bc why can't i get marble trim

[drifting quest]

most

50+%

[summer flower]

Did guy that was talking about had laev at p4 or p5?