theorycrafting

[rare zodiac]

don't you already get like 180 with just the support set?

[woeful plume]

xaihi has 120.5

akekuri has 208.3

[rare zodiac]

it does? 6.5 tho

[frozen tide]

Is your xaihi gloves max artificed

[brave arrow]

which weapon you put on Ange?

[woeful plume]

ohhhhhhh i had to be around an enemy

[woeful plume]

no i just crafted her stuff

[dense plank]

sig

[frozen tide]

There is no secondary attrubute percent gloves so you run ult gloves for xai

[fringe dirge]

Also Alesh energy breakpoint is +126.7% ult gain.
achievable with full ult gain gear and an ult gain weapon like fortmaker. You lose out on buff that thermite cutter provides, but you end up providing more overall sp which equals more ult gain

[rare zodiac]

weird, i just craft her set and she is already at 185

no artifice at all

[woeful plume]

are we not supposed to run uhhh

frontiers?

[frozen tide]

U run 3 frontier xira gloves

[woeful plume]

yeye im running that

ig i need to artifice gloves then?

what is akekuri breakpoint for 1 rot

[frozen tide]

If you barely dont have ult with no artifice gloves

Artificng prob makes it hit in time

[rare zodiac]

on Xaihi???? whyyyyyyy😭

[frozen tide]

God bless xaihi such a goated unit

[woeful plume]

intelligence

[fringe dirge]

Surely this is enough ult on my Alesh

[frozen tide]

Only set that gives secondary attribute percent

You need 1200 int to hit xaihi cap

[fringe dirge]

Is that even possible

[frozen tide]

With 9/9 deto and max artifice everything and p5 you only get 830ish

Read yo mind

If frontiers had int main stat instead of secondary it would get closer

[dry kindle]

no

[fringe dirge]

Is leveling basic attacks for your offfielders worth it at all

[dry kindle]

no

[frozen tide]

Sometimes i see my off fielders just standing and chilling

[rare zodiac]

what is the point of getting 10% better amp if you can't use it on time

[frozen tide]

While im fighting like no tomorrow

Is it just their ai do they only attack for a certain time and then rest?

How does it work

[frozen tide]

You should get it in time with artificed gear

And p4

[summer flower]

Wait we have secondary attribute %?

[frozen tide]

Yeah frontiers set

[summer flower]

Is it set bonus or piece?

[frozen tide]

Piece

[summer flower]

O.O

[rare zodiac]

you still need minimum 142.4 energy efficiency to do that

[summer flower]

What's it called?

[woeful plume]

does ardelia combo skill not appear if i dash off my fs??

[summer flower]

I know what to put with slabs

Wait is it same set as slab?

[woeful plume]

ohhhh noooo i see now

[summer flower]

Please tell me its wear not rest

[frozen tide]

With 3 3 repeating cycle?

[brave arrow]

do you have like, how much diff from OBJ? Sig P0 to OBJ P5

[frozen tide]

And did you find that out with the timeline sheet?

[dense plank]

I went with vibes

[rare zodiac]

why 33 when you can 2 4?

[frozen tide]

What is 2 4

Oh ur counting battacks

[rare zodiac]

2 4 stack LR combo skill

[dense plank]

though why obj

[frozen tide]

I thought we counting cryo stacks

[dry kindle]

sir

[dense plank]

if its electric comp why not just give ange stanza

[frozen tide]

Wait what

[dry kindle]

slight problem

[rare zodiac]

every rotation to do last lite combo need at least 15~16 to stack up

[rare zodiac]

easy, you delay qte

[dry kindle]

but you dont trigger it in the first place

[frozen tide]

So you are full buffing every cs huh

Interesting

Haven't thought of that approach

[rare zodiac]

LR will constantly trigger her QTE prom if cd is down and there exist a >3 stack enemies exist

[dry kindle]

ew multi enemy

[frozen tide]

Do you xaihi ult for the first cs @rare zodiac ?

[brave arrow]

poor XD, I have enough for gurantee but dunno if I wanna save for lightning dps weapon instead

[rare zodiac]

no i just said if there exist an enemy with >3 stack

[frozen tide]

Are you trynna make xaihi ult be up for every cs and optimizing for perma 4 stack cs?

[rare zodiac]

assuming we start with 0 energy, no we can't do that

[dry kindle]

yeah how without multiple enemies

[frozen tide]

Ngl I have not used that program and have no clue how to read it

[woeful plume]

it sounds ironic but, gilberta might be better for extended fights @frozen tide

1 sp every 25s might be a little too expensive

and i like freeloaded 2 sp before starting the fight

[fringe dirge]

What program is that

[frozen tide]

Hmm is gilbs 5 sec ult long enough to buff rites cs>ult

[woeful plume]

hopefully is the evil answer

first cs will have nth tho

[frozen tide]

You could optimize for 3 4 second cs>ult all in

[woeful plume]

wait... how are we proccing gilberta combo in lr comp

[rare zodiac]

that the neet thing, you can't

[frozen tide]

Then how tf u build her ult

Ig you don't

[woeful plume]

ok this lr unit

nevermind man

[frozen tide]

Lr is a supa chud

[woeful plume]

just get me p5 please!

okay the dmg is absolutely menta lthough

[frozen tide]

P5 would alleviate the sp problem slightly

[woeful plume]

u are telling me 2.7k atk LR does 320k ult

[frozen tide]

P4 would let you wear good chest piece

[woeful plume]

right

[rare zodiac]

1 Xaihi and 1 LR skill before combat to save sp, 1 aa to final trike(1 stack) to trigger ard QTE, aa combo again with 1 LR battle skill to get 2 stack, QTE Fluo for stack 3 QTE Xaihi for stack 4

[frozen tide]

Oh you use fluo

Ic

[woeful plume]

akekuri feels too indispensable for me, thermite holder too

perlica should also be good

im jsut not tryna build no perlica

[daring dove]

Max ult gain achieved. Just gotta push int a tiny bit more an Laevatain's done.

[woeful plume]

i should watch some clears

[frozen tide]

I can tell ur a whel just from those gloves

[outer ermine]

[frozen tide]

Perlica arts amp stack ele+stanza is goated output increase

She doesn't help with sp situation but doesn't use any sp either

[rare zodiac]

can use LR Xaihi Perlica Fluo

if you love Perlica that much

[woeful plume]

oh i meant as in i hate her that much

[rare zodiac]

it also free up Ard for other team if we eventually need more than 1 team

then do you hate Fluo?

i can try to cook with Ake but damn she isn't suitable with this team

[gritty olive]

@tight haven you dont need to do stuff

the earliest that laev gets her stuff back is four N5s

[woeful plume]

yes please

[gritty olive]

its fine

no OBJ accounted for atm + damage of the units are not considered

[open hare]

How can I make my last rite better

[woeful plume]

thats a very interesting spread of abilities

[frozen tide]

Max out your cs

[open hare]

What's a cs

[frozen tide]

Weapon essencing is one of the biggest dmg jumps

[gritty olive]

combo skill

[rare zodiac]

combo skill

[frozen tide]

Artifice whenever you have the bills for it

[open hare]

Nice operator pfp

[gritty olive]

.mommy

[tranquil burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1394343900260335748/ezgif-4f404687b7d39a.gif

[open hare]

I have 3m but I don't have component

[gritty olive]

sadly washed on is6 ed235

[open hare]

Glad shes playable now ngl

[frozen tide]

Import a good blueprint asap lmao

[open hare]

I forgot I left my factory on

Oh no.

[frozen tide]

Why is that an oh no

[open hare]

Because I am running out of xiranite

My rotations and last rite team sucks

I have nothing to my name except my love for Sarkaz women

[open hare]

What is that

[rare zodiac]

she is there for emotional support

[gritty olive]

wait to ask again, skill = battle and combo skill correct?

[woeful plume]

autumn chestnut

[frozen tide]

Depends on wording

If it says "all skill" it includes ult

[gritty olive]

obj sword

[frozen tide]

Damn you arknights endfield english wording

Lemme look up diff languages

No promises but looks like ult should count

But tbh going by korean wording battle attack also counts as a skill

[gritty olive]

explicit battle SKILL, combo SKILL, ultimate

[frozen tide]

Well then riddle me this

[gritty olive]

ill test ult rq but i need to account that madame akekuri has atk% on link

[bold rose]

if you use Yvonne with LR that's essentially an Yvonne team not a LR team right?

[frozen tide]

Why does "all skill dmg increase" apply to ult

[gritty olive]

then skill damage is misleading

it should be ability damage instead

[brazen coral]

what to get in the free 6* gear chest? I have lusheng and ardelia

[rare zodiac]

Yes

LR is there to give infliction with cheap cost, cc, and occasional ult burst

[outer ermine]

inb4 the occasional ult burst is what does the most dmg

[midnight stirrup]

LR still does more damage there

[frozen tide]

We dont talk about how just consuming cryo with rite would be better than yvonne

[rare zodiac]

It do a significant amount of dmg, that why she is viable

[midnight stirrup]

[rare zodiac]

Sadly no

[woeful plume]

wait

it just clicked

why do i not replace ardelia?

[rare zodiac]

That option is always available, but for who?

[woeful plume]

flourite or perlica ig

rn im having sp problems

[frozen tide]

Cause susc boosts dmg far too much to ignore

[woeful plume]

gg

[midnight stirrup]

Just run her without LR

[frozen tide]

Just play laev true

Im surrounded by meta chuds

[midnight stirrup]

Laev

[bitter cove]

anyone know how much sp u generated each final strike?

[woeful plume]

i just watched something terrible bro

[midnight stirrup]

Depends per char, shows on NA

[woeful plume]

i just saw someone do a LR rotation which includes consuming 4 cryo stacks for flourite skill

[rare zodiac]

20

[woeful plume]

i am stunlocked

[frozen tide]

What

[woeful plume]

how....

[rare zodiac]

That what i was talking about

[twilit quail]

banger

[bitter cove]

are u refering to my question? coz web and ingame doesnt tell how much
if its differ per char then how much LR and laev generate per LS

[frozen tide]

How does fluo consume cryo

[midnight stirrup]

Lemme double check it should be diff

[summer flower]

Done it, endmin weapon should be strong

[gritty olive]

[woeful plume]

u trigger corrosion

[frozen tide]

[summer flower]

Do you?

Doesnt fluo apply matching?

[woeful plume]

[frozen tide]

We sacrificing EVERYTHING for the screenshot

[woeful plume]

you manually skill

LMAO

[summer flower]

?

[woeful plume]

only her combo applies matching element

[summer flower]

I must have forgotten about application on skill

[woeful plume]

it has regular ol nature infliction

[frozen tide]

I mean that would be how you stack susc

[woeful plume]

yeah i think im good

[summer flower]

Does she self combo?

[woeful plume]

[frozen tide]

Damage per screenshot

[woeful plume]

hmmm wym by that

[summer flower]

Chen does self combo

[woeful plume]

i mean you can self combo

if you cast flourites skill 2 times back to back without applying anything else

that would net you.... 3 nature stacks

[summer flower]

Then she doesnt self combo

[woeful plume]

she does technically

u just dont do it

u just combo off the cryo apps

[gritty olive]

does someone have a weapon comparison for laev

[woeful plume]

pins

[steel hedge]

isnt perlicca gonna mess up yvonne's team by consuming the ice or nature infliction and making it electrification? or am i missing something

[midnight stirrup]

I think I confused it with stagger

[summer flower]

But is it self combo if it takes skill twice?

Chen just does skill -> combo

[bitter cove]

zamn

[gritty olive]

just tryna crosscheck stuff

currently fortmaker is 40% weaker than umbral

[bitter cove]

are we sure its 20?
kinda feels like it but just to be sure

[woeful plume]

her combo force inflicts electrification without interfering with app

[woeful plume]

that sounds about right

[summer flower]

Isn't electrification applied directly? Therefore not consuming other satuses?

[gritty olive]

fucking in line LOLLLL

[dry kindle]

its character specific

[steel hedge]

ohhh i see

[bitter cove]

do u have the number?

on LR and laev atleast

[dry kindle]

lr 30

[steel hedge]

can yvonne consume electrification also?

[dry kindle]

laev 20 normal 22 ult

[midnight stirrup]

Forcibly inflicts, doesnt inflict electric infliction.

[bitter cove]

thanks

[summer flower]

She doesnt consume it, she triggers combo off of it

[midnight stirrup]

You dont use battle skill.

[midnight stirrup]

@bitter cove I knew I wasnt fucking crazy

[frozen tide]

Thank goodness the game tells us this

Would sure be confusing otherwise

[bitter cove]

the game shouldve told us how much they generated tbh
they did with skill and theres stagger too

[fringe dirge]

Can someone take a look at my Da Pan shatter team rotation?
https://vxtwitter.com/CytosineGrabs/status/2020109592131248269?t=mT4_4y-5jXGNkX6AGfk3hA&s=19

Cytosine @Magfest (@CytosineGrabs)

Da Pan, Estella, Alesh, Chen team.
I have built my Alesh with max ult gain so he can use ult every rotation.
Da Pan and Chen are using Eternal Xiranite Power Core off-piece for ult regen.
Da Pan on Aethertech
Estella on Yinglung
Chen on swordmancer

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[steel hedge]

alright i get it now finally, thanks yall!

[gritty olive]

wave tide atk% on passive is a base atk buff right?

just making sure

[tight haven]

yeah

[gritty olive]

then its somehow almost equivalent to umbral torch

[fringe dirge]

Are people actually using the 4 star weapons?

[gritty olive]

@drifting quest preliminary calcs

[woeful plume]

that doesnt look equal

[gritty olive]

i meant fortmaker and wavetide

[woeful plume]

ah

[gritty olive]

i kinda dislike how forgeborn is 37.54% stronger

[drifting quest]

Seems roughly accurate with other calcs

Not bad

Wait why did tc get slowmoded its so over

[dry kindle]

1984

[gritty olive]

now i need combo from other comps

[drifting quest]

Might be time to find a new server

[tight haven]

dude

[gritty olive]

im gonna sim 200% ult vs hotworks

[drifting quest]

Slowmode is giga death

[frozen tide]

Where

[tight haven]

wait this is literally just rn

[gritty olive]

[tight haven]

was this here earlier LOL

[drifting quest]

No it happened while I was asleep

[gritty olive]

since like at least 5 hours ago

[dry kindle]

can we tc staying sane after playing etchspace

[midnight stirrup]

Yo offtopic, why tf is this an ad

[outer ermine]

prob another 'tc' moment

[midnight stirrup]

Gryph taking the piss lmao

[gritty olive]

some peeps desparately want img perms but

[gritty olive]

i reported the person who was just sending tangtang to #help #team-build #theorycrafting #aic-factory
surprsingly it works

[drifting quest]

I'll have to check out some other servers today I guess

[frozen tide]

Why r u even doing etchspace have you not hit 50k

[steel hedge]

what set should i use on snowshine? (she with yvonne)

[outer ermine]

[frozen tide]

Zet

Im trynna help you out here

Snowshine is one of the worst chars in the video game and yvonne needs a lot of help to function

You should try a diff comp maybe

[rare zodiac]

why snow?

[dry kindle]

yeah

[frozen tide]

So mf hasn't fully upgraded dijiang and hasnt done etchspace

🐳 behavior

[steel hedge]

oh 🙁

[rare zodiac]

she clunky, combo skill is long and ass, battle skill is unreliable, ult is ok i guess but it mess with Yvonne combo

[outer ermine]

help

[high finch]

i'm getting cooked

can that 2% proc plssss?

[tight haven]

its a 5% btw

[steel hedge]

is fluorite good for her

[rare zodiac]

what is your Yvonne team? do you have a preferred teammate that absolutely have to be on team?

[midnight stirrup]

Wait

[high finch]

yeah,BTW. i can't catch it

[midnight stirrup]

Very low is 5%?

[rare zodiac]

yes

[frozen tide]

Shes usable with yvonne

[steel hedge]

im trying to figure out which one to use as my 4th slot. my team rn is yvonne(will have her soon) gilbert, and xaihi

[frozen tide]

Yvonne xaihi fluorite gilberta would be a decent comp

[high finch]

expected 20 meanwhile me: 43

[frozen tide]

Try to get gilb if you can shes by far the best unit for yvonne

[steel hedge]

alrightyy tysm!

[midnight stirrup]

Can we pin this

[dry kindle]

zzz

[drifting quest]

better to pin the doc itself

[gritty olive]

[dry kindle]

datamined or what

[gritty olive]

this is without ardelia skill on 200% ult since theres no sp

[frozen tide]

Goat

[midnight stirrup]

what doc is it from

[drifting quest]

there's one floating around with it and all the other success rates

i dont have it saved

[steel hedge]

what the hell, why did my etch fail 5 times in a row when upgrading from 1-2 on basic stat

[dry kindle]

skill issue

[dapper mason]

no what ?

ok nvm

[rare zodiac]

i actually don't like Gib on Yvonne, she can't keep up with my seer insane speed of Yvonne ult loop

[gritty olive]

no ardelia skill since sp is very scarce unless yorue fine doing two N5s until you wait for ardelia skill beign up

[twilit quail]

my thermite cutter is nearly max dupe

after ange weap banner god bless

[drifting quest]

like 4 more hours for na/eu

[frozen tide]

Congrats thats about a 0.01 percent chance

[dapper mason]

so how do you feel ? standard or 200% set ?

[midnight stirrup]

what weapons does ange weapon banner share

[frozen tide]

You basically won 2 yvonnes in one pull

[gritty olive]

standard ig(sunk cost fallacy)
im interested on other calcs regarding this

[drifting quest]

the 3 that all 1.0 banners have:
wedge chiv wnn
then thermite exemplar oblivion

[twilit quail]

it has thermite so it's auto better than surtr's

[midnight stirrup]

oh thats more mid than expected

thermite good tho

[gritty olive]

iana have you tried comparing actual dps of ult spam vs forgeborn on laev

[drifting quest]

half the slots are locked

[frozen tide]

Surtr banner was so ass

[gritty olive]

currently i have it like this. if i try to delay the rotation by doing ardelia skill, damage flunks

[dapper mason]

i dont knnow why but i prefer obj on my ake

[drifting quest]

you dont twist your rot around it

since its consistent dps

[twilit quail]

with ard the dpsp is like 67-70% of fire set's, but with akekuri it's like 75-80%

that's the tradeoff you get for ult charge

[drifting quest]

also yada yada antal over ardelia stuff

[gritty olive]

the end of rotation is quite concerning since madame akekuri doesnt have her ult back

and ending sp is at ~90 ish for me so she cant immediately double skill

[drifting quest]

ake ult is once every other rot

with er breakpoint

i hate slowmode so much

[gritty olive]

well i guess mister wulfgard has his ult

[rare zodiac]

with what invest can i ask?

[gritty olive]

do you want to do my basic rotations

its quite scuffed since its sheeting

[rare zodiac]

i am interested

[drifting quest]

Wulf gets ult every rot (p5)
Or every other rot (p4)
Ake is ult every other rot or some extended rot can do it once per
Laev is every rot or every other based on gear
Antal/ard should be every rot

[rare zodiac]

can do that with the endaxis page to see the better static for rotation optimizing purposes

[atomic kraken]

gah damn i hit that 2.7%

[peak void]

does promotion level affect dijiang cabin speed?

[rare zodiac]

imo super charge Lae only good after p4

[peak void]

i have a gut feeling it does somehow

[peak void]

its still good at p0 for overworld

[gritty olive]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vC6E28yPxMGF0YHkYeDwBqfpICBM8d0W9KgYWp2Ptbg/edit?gid=706701141#gid=706701141

[peak void]

for dmg tho, you will still want hot work

[gritty olive]

check the subsheet that is named BASE(standard set) and ult(ultspam laev)

[atomic kraken]

do i need to make another team for upcoming endgame content chat? or lae is enough for now?

[frozen tide]

If laes not good enough

We are all cooked

She is the ceiling

[atomic kraken]

i got all my trimmed thanks to her

[rare zodiac]

it assuming we need more than 1 team

[drifting quest]

1 team

Umbral monument needs 1 right now

[twilit quail]

ahhhhh I want to artifice gilb slabs

[gritty olive]

how much sp do finishers give

[dapper mason]

same2. my 2 M3 LR could never trim marble so i had to change to lae team. even not full build lae still can trim. i done all trim today thanks to lae

[outer ermine]

[gritty olive]

ill assume 20

[dry kindle]

bleh

etchspace done

[rare zodiac]

it already dead by assuming Umbral

the only way Lae super charge work it's you have her sig

[dry kindle]

bleh what

[fringe dirge]

Apparently different characters give different amounts of SP

Idk if someone has made a list

[gritty olive]

wdym already dead?

ah ok

[rare zodiac]

as in it won't work

[gritty olive]

yeah yeah just clicked into my mind

[fringe dirge]

I'd like to know what characters are most efficient at sp gen through final strike

[gritty olive]

[fringe dirge]

I've spent the entire game onfielding greatsword users and they generate a big chunk of sp

[woeful plume]

how bad does perlica with stanza get outamped by p1 ardelia w sig

[fringe dirge]

Because their attacks are slower

[rare zodiac]

also for p0 Lae you will need 210 energy efficiency to 1 combo 1 EBS to reach 300

[fallen cedar]

Man gilberta needs arts guard like rn, like wym the only compatible character that fully utilizes her kit is estella?!?!? If zhuangfangyi is electric guard rather than striker, she would go crazy

[rare zodiac]

on what team?

[woeful plume]

LR xaihi flour

[warm storm]

Hello I saw there's a document around with different team comparison in Action Motion values and such, has anyone seen it?

[frozen tide]

Per just does not have the uptime

Even with p1

[gritty olive]

action motion? thats new

[rare zodiac]

alot i'm afraid

[woeful plume]

schling how do u find the sp like im fine with tanking tide fall armour

but i cant find the sp

[warm storm]

motion value or whatever xD

[gritty olive]

what is that thing even? like range?

[frozen tide]

You don't you need to kill them faster than u run out of sp reserve

[rare zodiac]

you pre buff Xaihi and LR skill

[warm storm]

its the effiency of their rotations basically

[rare zodiac]

ah you mean MV%

[woeful plume]

will we able to do that always tho

[warm storm]

yeah I saw fob leaked a doc with all that info for a sec on the stream but I think he killed the vod

and I was curious and trying to find it out

[rare zodiac]

for now yes,

[gritty olive]

oh you meant scalings?

MV always referred to motion value what

did you mean something like this

[warm storm]

i think it was showing off different team comps and their potential dps

[fringe dirge]

People call em motion values in monster hunter

[warm storm]

rather than individual character

[gritty olive]

til

i do not like forgeborn having this number

[frozen tide]

Breh

[drifting quest]

its within range of other calcs

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466958391174889722/1469332220689911850/95432420d712308dc0cf6101605d37938489578_________________1.webp

[frozen tide]

Good to see wnn being trash as always

[drifting quest]

is it p0 umbral

or p5

im actually going to crash out at this slowmode

[gritty olive]

p0 6*

[drifting quest]

then yeah 45% gap seems reasonable enough

[gritty olive]

is tide atk% on passive a base atk buff or a standard atk buff

[drifting quest]

maybe a little towards the extreme but plausible

[drifting quest]

external

[gritty olive]

i put the atk buff incorrectly

let me change it

[rare zodiac]

Lae super charge only viable with high pot sig and p4 Lae, with p4 Lae only need 180 energy efficiency, open up Tide Fall Light Armor, Hot Work Gauntlets, Redeemer Seal x2 gear combo, maximize her stat, the lack of % from gear is ofset by her insane ba dmg buff

[gritty olive]

ok

good to know

[bitter cove]

lae weapon banner should be still up after yvonne banner right
it say ending after 2 lim banner
yvonne banner up -> after 1 lim banner
next banner up -> ???

[drifting quest]

after yvonne no

[bitter cove]

zam

[drifting quest]

during yvonne yes

[rare zodiac]

hummm it's humanly possible to do this combo that i cook up?

or am i expecting to much of human limitations

[rugged kiln]

Is motion value like damage per frame?

[rare zodiac]

kinda

like the dmg/s of that move

[gritty olive]

standard or nah

[midnight stirrup]

It stays until the patch ends, yes.

And you can still lose to Laev/Yvonne and Laev/Gilb respectively over the other rate-ups.

[gritty olive]

specifically, it stays for 3 banners

[dapper mason]

im sticking to standard since half of my articing resources already spent on LR.

[neon zephyr]

i keep on seeing theorycrafting sheets start with 0 energy. is that b/c umbral monument starts you with 0 energy?

[midnight stirrup]

I mean the patch is 3 banners

[drifting quest]

also easiest to calc around

[gritty olive]

@neon zephyr afaik yes
@dapper mason i meant are my calcs standard compared to other calcs made already

[drifting quest]

prestacking ults makes rotations vary too much

[midnight stirrup]

Btw, did any of yall receive the supplies in news ingame that they mentioned

with the sanity pots?

[drifting quest]

asia has

[midnight stirrup]

Ig eu/na gets it at banner change then

[drifting quest]

i assume na/eu gets it with gilb banner

[midnight stirrup]

ye

[gritty olive]

yeah but its just something that lines up. it lasts 3 banners, which coincidentally is from patch start to patch end due to the banner starting at patch

mf im getting mad at semantics 🥀

[woeful plume]

what website was this btw

[neon zephyr]

seems messier to start with ult down, since second rotation your ults should be up

[gritty olive]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline

[neon zephyr]

but if default mode is umbral, i agree that ult down should be standard here

[rugged kiln]

Bro I swear some mod just went round putting slow mode in every channel

[gritty olive]

genshin: starts with ults
hsr: starts with 50% ults
endfield: starts at 0

[midnight stirrup]

I mean fair, but if it stays 3 banners in the future, there should be no problem just saying full patch

[mystic halo]

ok, so, most of this is no good because we are the official server

[gritty olive]

i reported some person who was sending only tangtang in the help channels

[mystic halo]

and that is essentially the verdict

[drifting quest]

pretty much every team has use cases to hold ults versus use them asap and it gives too much variance. which rotation is the one to calc around? which ones are too niche? do you calc 3-10 different rotations and average them?

its simply too much work. 0 energy start reduces the number of rotations down to 2-4

[midnight stirrup]

Probably cause every channel goes fast af, they didnt realise this one has normal pace.

[drifting quest]

makes sense

it was mostly stuff like iana's doc, maybe the damage doc but that might be a no go too

while you're here whats with the slowmode

[mystic halo]

Im not sure but I am asking about it

[gritty olive]

calcs are volatile

so since this is "an official server" we need to regard the calcs made to the highest standard i think? i understand the skepticism since there is a degree of "favoritism" that can be inferred if X's sheet got pinned while Y's didnt

[fervent mica]

What collab would fit this game best?

And how likely is it we will get them

[midnight stirrup]

Let's keep the pointless questions in #endfield

[gritty olive]

sir this is #theorycrafting

[fervent mica]

This won't Age well

[midnight stirrup]

That doesnt even make sense

[drifting quest]

it causes me physical distress to try type something and have it denied by slowmode

[gritty olive]

HG discord isnt big enough like hoyo to have proper helper role if you want to get unslowmoded

since AKO doesnt have it, its very likely AKEFO would also be helperless

[midnight stirrup]

How often does Last Rite get to ult with P4?

[torn raft]

Oh we got slowmode here

[frozen tide]

3 3

Every 2 cs

[gritty olive]

since at least 5 hours ago

[midnight stirrup]

6 7

EVERY 2?

[torn raft]

We dont even have that many people here or spammers

[midnight stirrup]

So she gets to ult per rot 💀

[frozen tide]

1 cs rite ult is probably technically possible

[midnight stirrup]

Oh wait no im dumb

[frozen tide]

Every 3stack cs takes 2 ba cycle

[midnight stirrup]

Ye ur right

Is it even worth going for 4 stacks

before combo

[frozen tide]

If you need it to hit ult threshold then yes

Or if ur trynna hit fat screenshots

Cs has higher 1 hit than ult at 4 stack

[midnight stirrup]

That makes sense yeah

Can we get another 6-star selector so I can grab P5 and get that beautiful profile theme. 🥹

[rare zodiac]

each stack is bonus 240% multipliers

[woeful plume]

which one is combo here

[rare zodiac]

yellow one

[drifting quest]

probably the one that says cooperative

as in combo

[woeful plume]

i do not cooperate

[drifting quest]

combo > combination > cooperative

[woeful plume]

[next helm]

What site is that?

[woeful plume]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline

[gritty olive]

oops wrong ctrlc ctrlv

[midnight stirrup]

Actually nvm

[woeful plume]

does this track our skill points somewhere or can i not see

[gritty olive]

yellow bar

[woeful plume]

okay thanks a lot

[rare zodiac]

@gritty olive something isn't right with your Lae cal, have you factor in the fact that Lae can't get energy when ult is active?

[gritty olive]

wtf slowmode gone

i was just typing and the bar disappeared @drifting quest rejoice

[gritty olive]

i havent included ult energy deducting, but the whole rotation should give you enough energy always to be able to do everything

[midnight stirrup]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-meme-famous-T70hpBP1L0N7U0jtkq

[drifting quest]

freedom

at last

[gritty olive]

i havent factored in akekuri ult giving sp, but that should be a minor hiccup

if i did include akekuri ult giving sp, the ult spam rotation is in shambles since i can potentially slot in ardelia skill

[drifting quest]

be sure to line up akekuri ults before laev enhanced skill

[rare zodiac]

this seem of, this is right after Lae ult duration end, you can't get ult with just 1 EBS

[drifting quest]

for link buff

[gritty olive]

oh fuck i was just scratching my head as to why i ulted immmediately

im gonna change it back rq, thanks

like LOL

[rare zodiac]

i was recreating your rot and my mind was : dafuk this doesn't add up

[gritty olive]

she still doesnt have enough energy to ult

mbmb

[torn raft]

is it realistic to get a hot work boosted enhanced skill

[gritty olive]

did you just send a picture here because of the opressive #endfield #off-topic

[gritty olive]

nah

[drifting quest]

[winter prawn]

i am not sure actually,... i thought this is for this kinda stuff

[rare zodiac]

nah, combust add AFTER enhanced skill

[torn raft]

I mean to combust then get another within that time frame

[winter prawn]

i guess yes cuz i can't send stuff in there and kinda thought the theory crafting is alkso related to story stuff

[gritty olive]

numbers are now more in line @rare zodiac

@winter prawn maybe #lore-room is your shi

[winter prawn]

thx

[dapper mason]

hmmmmmm

[rare zodiac]

10s? well if all the star line up

not that it's impossible

[gritty olive]

still skeptical on forgeborn

[drifting quest]

the closest calcs for forgeborn > umbral is like prydwens at 10%, for p5 umbral

[rare zodiac]

if it all line up you can hit the nastiest combo a boss can ever experience

[drifting quest]

and its prydwen

[left peak]

what is this channel about

[drifting quest]

25-40% is the range of averages for most other people

[drifting quest]

To talk about advanced game mechanics like number crunching.

[wooden robin]

Hello

[left peak]

aight thx

[wild sparrow]

so am i understanding that the notes section that should be for chen is just more pog information, and that if i have no fortmaker i just run set 1, the double hot works kit set, correct?

[wooden robin]

Hi

[left peak]

hello

[drifting quest]

chen has no extra information other than the summary

the wall of text is all pogs

[dapper mason]

mathing that i dont really understand but im chilling here for the results

[drifting quest]

fortmaker runs the 3p pulser set

[wild sparrow]

right yeah i got that

[gritty olive]

t

200% ult barely edges out

[drifting quest]

thermite can run the double hot work kit one

[left peak]

does anyone have a indepth guide for every operators like a google doc i dont really like the websites ones

[gritty olive]

just go 200% ult lol

[wild sparrow]

only the hot work kit set?

[rare zodiac]

this alone is like 1.5~2 m dmg if well invested team

[wild sparrow]

the doc didn't really mention set 2 and set 3 outside of the fortmaker context

[dapper mason]

damn another grind

[drifting quest]

you want the extra ult gain % from body and gloves yes
3p pulser is for fortmaker which has its own ult gain %

[gritty olive]

wait i just realized

i havent added damage from skill yet

[wild sparrow]

noted noted thanks

[drifting quest]

im assuming you'ren ot p4 pog

but that potential changes things again

[gritty olive]

oh wait nvm i already included it nvm

[wild sparrow]

definitely not

[lusty kernel]

My theory is the game hates me

[wild sparrow]

only potential i have in that team is p5 pan

[wild sparrow]

but iirc pan potentials don't change gear

[lusty kernel]

Theorycrafted

[torn raft]

is obj better than thermite?

[drifting quest]

they do

[wild sparrow]

shit they do?

[drifting quest]

no

[wild sparrow]

man i just finished crafting those damn it

[drifting quest]

sub p4 has a charge set to keep ult uptime aligned

[wild sparrow]

what changes here then

[lusty kernel]

Whats that ? Macro?

[wild sparrow]

i thought this assumed p5

[drifting quest]

'At <P4 you can switch the hands for LYNX hands for charge rate to keep the rotation comfortable'

[wild sparrow]

and that the summary was for <p4

[drifting quest]

its in the summary

[dapper mason]

what if higher potential obj vs thermite? im curious if i should change

[torn raft]

ok wanted to double check cause saw that in there lol

[gritty olive]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline

[wild sparrow]

yeah but i'm p5 so i can just keep this then right

[drifting quest]

p5 obj is behind p0 thermite

[wild sparrow]

like whatever's in the images

[dapper mason]

oh wow

thank you

[torn raft]

Thermite is in gilb weap banner if you're wanting to pull her weap

[dapper mason]

i have p0 thermite. rn still using p3 obj

i will change later

[lusty kernel]

Is the other catalyst in that banner for gilberta/ ardelia? Cause i got it

[split gust]

is it worth it to get Mountain Bearer for Lifeng if you already have Valiant?

[torn raft]

More wedge wnn and chiv

[drifting quest]

wedge wnn and chiv are on all 3

so expect them again on yvonne's

[daring dove]

They really make you work hard for those last few levels

[mystic halo]

it's funny cause duped wedge is kind of better than p0 sig for her

[drifting quest]

its so you can offrate a weapon for each limited
laev > cope wnn
wedge > cope yvonne
chiv > unusable on gilb???

[mystic halo]

so theyre gonna have to put both therm and det unit on her weapon

to make it worth pulling

[gritty olive]

what team should i test

at this rate im only goign to implement an extra two before i dip and try gibby

[torn raft]

More ugly yellow weapons

[drifting quest]

we know yvonnes 3 extra weapons

[daring dove]

Has Thermite cutter so that's a W at least.

[torn raft]

Why have they done this

[drifting quest]

the banner is not great

[mystic halo]

ah gg then

[drifting quest]

better than laev's at least

||sundered rascent jet|| for yvonne

[daring dove]

I mean 3 of the weapons on there are considered good weapons arguably 4.

I'd say it's a decent banner

[torn raft]

Ty, and what was it for ascent to beat sundering for chen?

P3?

[drifting quest]

only jet is currently definitely the bis

for any unit

lmao

[mystic halo]

uhhh

I think 2 dupes beats p5 sundering

because p5 sundering is like 4-5% better than p0 ascent

[drifting quest]

i hate sundering steel i hate sundering steel

why does it have to be so ugly

[torn raft]

But it has the edge of not looking like sundering steel

[mystic halo]

better start filling feedback form then

[torn raft]

I will take the 5%

[drifting quest]

omw to run aspirant chen to not have to use sundering

[mystic halo]

once they add transmog I will transmog lae sig into WNN

it would be such good content just confusing people with random weapon appearances

[torn raft]

Id prob transmog to pog sig

[gritty olive]

btw if im calcing gibby

it means im calcing different teams

[soft tendon]

has anybody seen this damage chart? trying to figure out which set is which (because apparently 2x lynx slab is actually good??)

[drifting quest]

lynx slab is not good

[torn raft]

Crit

[drifting quest]

they're uneven timelines

???

what in the clickbait

[rare phoenix]

what tools should i get started with for rotations. i want to do some akekuri on field things cause i love her

[mystic halo]

oh this is the

right yeah

[drifting quest]

yeah the more i look at the image the worse it gets

[mystic halo]

this is the one with the 100% xiranite and ard debuff uptime

and random wulf skill

dont take this one too seriously

[drifting quest]

lmao

[soft tendon]

makes sense

[rare zodiac]

can't say anything without a proper rot

it all come down to rotation

[gritty olive]

so is mine more

[drifting quest]

at least here i dont think we've found an actual use case for 1 slab 3hot work or double slab

[gritty olive]

grounded

[gritty olive]

another skill trust

[drifting quest]

!!

[wintry hazel]

hi

should i pull 2 more for selector box

so i can get therm cutter

on gil sig banner

^i pitied it

[drifting quest]

it's more expensive than waiting for rotation but rotation could be up to some 11 weeks away

[torn raft]

Jesus u pulled 14 times?

[drifting quest]

up to you if you're fine with the ~1500 arsenal tokens to get it now versus waiting for rotation

[rare zodiac]

if max artifice slab give ~400 more atk than the traditional Hot Work combo

IF max

[drifting quest]

max artifice vs max artifice? 1 slab?

[wintry hazel]

uhhh

[drifting quest]

400 sounds too much

[gritty olive]

@soft tendon i have this

[wintry hazel]

i have chance to get more too

so

maybe

but like

im missing some tokens though

to do 20 pulls

[torn raft]

U should've stopped at 8 lmao

[rare zodiac]

that 26% main attributes? it cal on your max int

[wintry hazel]

its at 8

10th gives box

[torn raft]

Wait it's 10th for box?

I thought it was 16

[wintry hazel]

ya

[torn raft]

Oh ok

[wintry hazel]

no

i need therm though

i only have 2900 arsenal ticket rn

[gritty olive]

Ult spam combo vs normal combo

[gritty olive]

Are you talking to m

E

[wintry hazel]

any suggestion

what can i do?

[rare zodiac]

i still feel weird about your rotation, but i must recreate it to see where that feeling come from

[torn raft]

Just wait i guess, see if thermite spawns on rotation before u get 4k

[high finch]

did you count what is better er set or normal one?

[gritty olive]

Im using the time from endaxis

[tranquil burrow]

Wait until therm shows up in rotation. It will since it's a generic 6*.

[gritty olive]

Im assuming all skills combos ults have 0s duration if it isnt laevatain

Im cuttign corners here

[rare zodiac]

nah was talking to Shou

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086682564849684/1469699228233109687/image0.jpg?ex=69889b91&is=69874a11&hm=e802aa6a4f54f5e86a3d3639d7cedfa8884bf05ae6ca4c035f30fd3e00144445&

[wintry hazel]

2880 arsenal ticket.. do i need to pull 10x on gil just to get therm...

[rare zodiac]

the diff gonna be even wider the higher your Lae invest go

[gritty olive]

[gritty olive]

Im doing potentials next

[wintry hazel]

okay i guess

[gritty olive]

Then if you have other teams for laevatain im going to implement it

Maybe just two extra

[dapper mason]

it will took me 2 or 3 weeks to finish ER set

[glad niche]

⁨```
Arknights Armaments Rotation

Week 1 - Grand Vision / ???
Week 2 - Oblivion / OBJ Lightness
Week 3 - Valiant / OBJ Velocitous
Week 4 -

Daily since Feb 5th:
Monaihe / Aspirant
Chimeric Justice / Aspirant
Rational Farewell / Finishing Call

Anyone remember the missing 5* from week1?

[high finch]

wait with signature er set is betteR?

[outer ermine]

wild wanderer

[next helm]

Sig gives big steroid during ult so not that weird

[summer flower]

Grandvision in rotation?

At least when i was pulling i didnt get rate up

[dry kindle]

Lr 56s dorito kill

Looks inside

Just 1 shot every phase

[tranquil burrow]

I was scouring through my friend list out of curiousity and I've found THREE people already maxing out imperfect essences. Why.....

[wintry hazel]

chat

do we have the rate

for etch

[tranquil burrow]

Ye

[wintry hazel]

im wondering where to etch first

i have +3 +3 +2 rn

on jet avy

[tranquil burrow]

Someone can share table but +3 is ~4% chance and +6 is 2.7% chance

+3 last stat I mean

[wintry hazel]

would it be better for me to gamble the passive +2 rn

or just up the main+other second stat

[drifting quest]

highest odds > depends on weapon

[wintry hazel]

and gel passive

[tranquil burrow]

The other +4s will come fast

The +3 will take some time and luck

[wintry hazel]

weapon is avy jet

[tranquil burrow]

But I like to gamble for +6s so I save more coolant gel

[mystic halo]

generally you dont want to gel anything that isnt 5>6

[drifting quest]

aux line > atk boost > stat line

[wintry hazel]

what abbout passive

[drifting quest]

honestly an argument for atk boost > aux line but hey

[mystic halo]

2>3 you should ideally just tap

and hit it

[wintry hazel]

gel?

[mystic halo]

if you dont hit it

[wintry hazel]

or etch

[mystic halo]

keep trying

[gritty olive]

slightly from what im getting

[drifting quest]

tap = manual upgrade without gel

[tranquil burrow]

Gel the +6s but gamble along the way in case you hit

[wintry hazel]

oh

[gritty olive]

ult set shluld be better with pots

[wintry hazel]

so only do gel when u +5

[summer flicker]

does having same stat on essence affect the chance, or just need to be gold one

[drifting quest]

i pitied 6 of them and honestly i wish i didnt

ive got a ton of essence backlogged no with nothing to use it on

[fickle turret]

does pog benefit from will aspect? or could I use xiranite piece with int, strength on him. That way I could have one less piece to artifice as I already have that on Antal.

[tranquil burrow]

Gilberta essence

[drifting quest]

technically yes, realistically no

[drifting quest]

i dont know if ill pulling her sig till i do char banner pulls

if i dont have to go to 120 im not touching the banner

[wintry hazel]

so only gel when lv +5 and higher yea?

[tranquil burrow]

You will be baited by that ult gain efficiency. There's no denying it.

[drifting quest]

the 450 cost ones

[fickle turret]

okay so besides dmg there is no need for will, thanks. I don’t need dmg on him

[drifting quest]

only those

[terse furnace]

a little over 2 hours for NA to get Gilberta

[drifting quest]

the bait is the thermite cutter

[outer ermine]

that couldve been faster

[drifting quest]

im not pulling on the banner to get gilb sig

[wintry hazel]

do u gamble the 5 to 6 though

[tranquil burrow]

I have 0 desire for cutter because 1. it will be replaced by limited sigs 2. it will show up in rotation

[drifting quest]

im pulling on the banner to get thermite cutter with a free gilb sig along the way

[outer ermine]

i have 54s rn but i scuffed my 3rd phase a bit

[high finch]

does that mean i upgraded set which is not bis

[terse furnace]

Oh shit, Gilb's sig banner has Thermite?

[high finch]

sucks

[outer ermine]

3 runs of like good 3rd phase and i fucked it up

[terse furnace]

I'm on NA so I can't see it rn

[tranquil burrow]

You do because typically you don't have enough gel saved up to pity it so may as well gamble until you hit it

[outer ermine]

[drifting quest]

wnn wedge chiv are on all 3 banners
gilb banner also has exemplar thermite oblivion

[wintry hazel]

i see

[summer flicker]

holy gilb sig hasthermite

[drifting quest]

yvonne banner is ||sundered rascent jet||

[summer flicker]

maybe i pull after yvonne sig and the dripping of 1.1 char

[terse furnace]

How do we know what Yvonne's banner has

[tranquil burrow]

I wish I get Gilb + sig in 20 pulls total

Please

I don't wanna go hard pity

[drifting quest]

idk if its datamined or revealed, it's just on talos wiki which should be ran by the same people as terra wiki and disallows leaks and the like so im assuming its okay

[wintry hazel]

btw does artificing has huge impact

like really huge

cause i have like 300 battery saved up and im still confused if i should artifice avy gear

since theres no calc for her..

[terse furnace]

ty, I'll check it out

[drifting quest]

huge impact? yes
required right now? no
any reason to not just buy the materials and hold onto then? no

[tranquil burrow]

OK, so odds of going to 120 pity on character banner and 80 pity on weapon banner both are 17%.

Surely we can avoid being this unlucky

[drifting quest]

if its not 0% its 100%

[summer flicker]

not 0, so just have 120

[dry kindle]

I get to laugh at you if they don't add anymore gear

But we gotta wait a month to find out so

[drifting quest]

oh no i trimmed without artificing and can just artifice the gear late

the travesty

[dry kindle]

But max artifice is +30% stats

[dry kindle]

[tranquil burrow]

why do you not have the patience to wait for thermite on rotation then huh

[dry kindle]

Oh right I finally finished my levels I should go do trims

[wintry hazel]

but theres no calc for avy gear no?

[tranquil burrow]

trims

[wintry hazel]

so im confused

[summer flicker]

yvonne enjoyer max artificing

[mystic halo]

well artificing gives like +30% stats

[gritty olive]

pls crossecheck other calcs since i have my own sets of assumptions

[mystic halo]

so if you artifice fully

[summer flicker]

[mystic halo]

youre gonna get like 30% performance increase

[wintry hazel]

holy

[drifting quest]

because basically everything except wedge and wnn on gilb banner is a hit for me

[tranquil burrow]

just p5 a char to save artificing mats

[mystic halo]

the unit doesnt have any charge rate bs or anything

[gritty olive]

but like thats what my sims suggest marginally

[dry kindle]

💀

[mystic halo]

so artificing is just for dmg

[wintry hazel]

but yeah i dont know

[dry kindle]

Only 26.9 crit rate

[drifting quest]

i want exemplar, chiv, oblivion and thermite

[wintry hazel]

what even avy gear to artifice

is it already perma

that this avy gear is good for her

[drifting quest]

bonekrusha last i saw

[wintry hazel]

bonekrusha+pulsar

[mystic halo]

who knows!

[tranquil burrow]

it just 1.3x any and all stats on your gear, which can net you new breakpoints

[mystic halo]

is it good rn yes

[dry kindle]

What else you gonna run

[mystic halo]

is it going to be good forever

no one can tell you

[wintry hazel]

i dont know if it has some secret like lae

[summer flicker]

19.5(sig) + 5(base) + 10(set) + 26.9 + 30(ult) = 91.4%

that's enough for me

[wintry hazel]

like the lab thing and such

[dry kindle]

Isnt set only 5

[daring dove]

Hows her CR end up with all that?

[wintry hazel]

cause no avy calc

[summer flicker]

5 and then 5 at max stack

[summer flicker]

only 2 piece with crit, the other two is basic attack

[dry kindle]

Bleh

[tranquil burrow]

2 hours still to go until Gilb banner

[summer flicker]

you gonna get max stack anyway when ult

[wintry hazel]

what do u do with epic essence btw

[ocean hawk]

I got thermite today, so for pog p4 fort (p5 available) or p0 thermite

[drifting quest]

oh yeah the gilb sign in pulls are permanent ones not exclusive right

[dry kindle]

Salvage

[dry kindle]

Wut

[drifting quest]

temp stuff for supports

[wintry hazel]

o

[dry kindle]

They're temp ones

[tranquil burrow]

you can keep ones with +3 auxes since that's about all your supports will ever need 95% of the time

[summer flicker]

i think its exclusive like the lae one

[drifting quest]

i run purples on most my supports because i have +2/+3's

[summer flicker]

me having the banner in 1h

[drifting quest]

i thought i saw a screenshot of them looking like permanent ones

maybe didnt see it right

[summer flicker]

but i heard ppl complain they have to wait till next week to pull

[dry kindle]

Look similar but yeah no

[drifting quest]

i dont want to wait a week to pull

[drifting quest]

valiant expires before then

[wintry hazel]

for bills..??

[dry kindle]

Yep

[wintry hazel]

ah

[dry kindle]

[summer flicker]

ye, the exclusive pulls r pretty bad

[dry kindle]

Fuck the pulls

Where's my arsenal tickets

[twilit quail]

I got +5k gacha token from this banner so I am chilling

I can finally raise units!!

[summer flicker]

on those pulls

[dry kindle]

Did you 5+6 gilb

[wintry hazel]

so is there artificin gguide

[twilit quail]

I did

[dry kindle]

Bruh

[tranquil burrow]

no wonder I sensed so strong Gilberta agenda from the sheet

[dry kindle]

Be luckier

[wintry hazel]

i mean as in what gear to choose for higher chance

[twilit quail]

as much as I do like her I think Ive been pretty reasonable

[summer flicker]

use piece with higher stat than the stat you are artifice

[twilit quail]

with everything Ive said about her

[lost raft]

Which one has the potential to give more Recharge once leveling is put into the equation?

[dry kindle]

Uh

Guess?

[twilit quail]

that's a bit of a strange question

[wintry hazel]

wtf wha

[lost raft]

I have no idea how high the gear can go, thats why I ask rather than to "asume"

[wintry hazel]

i dont get it

[tranquil burrow]

artificing multiplies base stat by 1.3

[wintry hazel]

💀

dont yall artifice the

[summer flicker]

you mean max right

[wintry hazel]

passive of gear

for dps

like ele dmg bonus

[summer flicker]

isnt each artifice +10%

[dry kindle]

You artifice everything

[wintry hazel]

battle skill dmg bonus

[tranquil burrow]

12% * 1.3 or 20% * 1.3, bigger base is better

[dry kindle]

Well you want to anyway

[wintry hazel]

oh

[lost raft]

the max is 1.3?

[tranquil burrow]

yes

[dry kindle]

Wuling too busy being poor and wont give us lv4 outpost

[summer flicker]

each is 1.1 , i didnt remember wrong

[tranquil burrow]

it's an additive 10% with each artifice

so you get to 1.3 final value