theorycrafting

[lime bear]

cuz you need to do 120 again anyway so

for hard pity

[bronze plume]

just

[reef token]

if u say so ! @tight haven

[bronze plume]

get the limited in 1

didnt get them in 1?

reroll

L bozo

soon

[reef token]

why the rate scamming

[lime bear]

is that guy rerolling for perfect acc still alive

[bronze plume]

idk

rerolling is a stupid thing to do

[dry kindle]

Whel

[bronze plume]

imo

[bronze plume]

womp

[reef token]

i need therm cut

finally rate not scamming

[bronze plume]

did you not grab it from the weapon selector

[lime bear]

uhh I M6d, is there other worth to mastery

[reef token]

bruh got wedge

[bronze plume]

no

thats fine

i just like laev

[reef token]

i took oblivion for perlica but not even using it nomore

its lv 80

:/

[bronze plume]

ovlivion

[reef token]

cmon

im getting robbed

bro

i got another oblivion

p3 oblivion

[bronze plume]

lol

[reef token]

whats this scam

i pitied for weapon

:/

[bronze plume]

i have to wait 3 business months to get the weapon

[reef token]

should i get the

express delivery

just to have therm cutter

[bronze plume]

do you

want gilbertas sig

[reef token]

i alr pitied

i just want the therm cutter

[bronze plume]

what are you asking for then

[reef token]

therm cuttrer

[bronze plume]

imo not worth to pull even more just for a weapon selector crate

[reef token]

2 more issues

for therm cutter selector

@tight haven senpai..

[tight haven]

dont be weak

[civic cedar]

soo like theorycrafters is it worth it to pull gilberta?

[reef token]

what does that mean..?

[bronze plume]

if you are wanting to run the electric team, yvonne or speedrunning

[reef token]

[bronze plume]

weak /wēk/
adjective

Lacking physical strength, energy, or vigor; feeble.

[civic cedar]

oh yeah im 1 more pull for weapon selection for the (previous) weapon banner. should i pull to get a selected weapon or pull on gilberta's weapon

[reef token]

context 😭

[bronze plume]

do you want any of the weapons on the selector crate

if yes

then yes

if no

[civic cedar]

i have like... half of it

[bronze plume]

pull on gilbertas weapon

thats not a yes nor a no

[civic cedar]

extra could be nice but idk rn

[bronze plume]

do you have

clannibal

[reef token]

i have 928k cred

left over

[civic cedar]

yes

been using it for my wulfguard

[bronze plume]

then go for gilbertas

[civic cedar]

kk thanks!

[bronze plume]

less you really want a weapon you wont use probably

[civic cedar]

question whats the difference between the battlepass weapon for gilberta and her sig?

if not that much

ill just use the battlepass

[bronze plume]

great question

no idea

all i know is sig is better

(shock)

[civic cedar]

😭

[civic cedar]

where is the best place to consult builds

[bronze plume]

here or #team-build good luck with the people in team build tho

[open pewter]

sig arts dmg buff activates when using combo skill while bp weapon buff arts dmg buff activates when using battle skill
sig also gives you ult recharge while bp doesn't

[manic blade]

team build told me slab is good so I'm running 2 slabs on everyone

[dry kindle]

Sig also just has better numbers

If youre not using sig just use stanza

[thorn ibex]

how to play yvonne gilberta xaihi perlica?

[whole crystal]

simple

just replace yvonne with last rite

youre welcome

[ocean hawk]

so uh bad news from me

[dry kindle]

Can someone test if opus needs the nature infliction active for the second part to work

[ocean hawk]

I got no dapan dupes

from 60 pulls

[whole crystal]

I got no avywenna from 200pulls

got everyone else p5

she hates me

[ocean hawk]

so avy hates u

dapan hates me

noted

[whole crystal]

atleast you got him

[ocean hawk]

the game doesnt want u to build elec team, while it prevents me to build phys team

WAIT NO IS NO ?

i thought its like pot 0 atleast

[whole crystal]

no

0

none

[ocean hawk]

[whole crystal]

nada

got every 6star too except for yvonne and gilb

[torn wolf]

Is gilb's sig arts dmg buff diluted? I heard dmg buff being not really good when compared to atk%

[bronze plume]

its not better then atk% buff correc

doesnt mean its not good

[torn wolf]

Alr thx

Dang how much atk% stuff for it to start getting bad

[dry kindle]

more than we ever get rn

[thorn ibex]

stop doomposting bruh

[woeful plume]

80 pulls for lr sig, gun

[peak void]

anyone know the rotation for this team?
i know lifeng skill goes first but idk who consumes the vuln stacks now with pog in the mix

[whole crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/my-apologies-cheese-kitty-cat-sorry-my-bad-gif-1026852287997442026

[dry kindle]

imagine having phys comp

cant be me

[tall bone]

For Estella, why is Valient considered the second pick after OBJ Razorhorn?
Her combo and ult apply lift and physical susceptibility so it should trigger Valient's effect multiple times

[real mist]

is gilberta's sig good?

[dry kindle]

ya

[peak void]

arts amp for free is really good

[woeful plume]

is avy fine without arclight or do i need to build arclight

[peak void]

the bp weapon is an alternative, but specifically needs battle skill and ofc that requires SP

which, well, kinda sucks

speaking of which i should just grab this for yvonne now right, since i have the sigs of the other 2

[real mist]

Arts dmg % is separate to elemental dmg ?

[peak void]

bumping this too btw

[peak void]

idk but both gilberta sig and bp alternative buff arts dmg%, not elemental

if i had to guess, they are separate multipliers

but i dont know the dmg formula myself

[cerulean gazelle]

lae best build is with tide fall armor and not lynx slab right

[real mist]

so which char is more keen on getting their signature, yvonne or gilberta?

[mild quarry]

pog breach at 4 stacks lasts 30 secs, enough to run an endmin rotation

[peak void]

so i stack vuln first then pog, then stack vuln again for endmin?

lifeng first both times right

[mild quarry]

yup

[peak void]

and uhh

when do i do endmin combo

do i do it when its pogs turn to consume

[real mist]

so uh are both yvonne's and gilberta's sig skippable if you have bp?

[peak void]

or just when its endmin turn

[mild quarry]

Unless you want to insert a suboptimal endmin ult just include it, not that big of a deal

[peak void]

alr ill just spam it i guess

thank u

[dapper nacelle]

So why is Aspirant Considered to be bad for Chen when it has almost exact stats as Sundering Steel?

[peak void]

Yvonne's sig is just the bp but better numbers
Gilberta's kind of extra sucks not getting since you'll have to use SP to trigger the buff

[mild quarry]

The atk% on sundering is just better for everything

[real mist]

wut then why you guys said her sig is good

[bronze plume]

gilbertas sig is good

they are saying the bp option kinda sucks

since it requires you to use sp on gilberta

which is not ogod

good

[dapper nacelle]

Are there more DMG than ATK sources?

[real mist]

is it because of the ultimate efficiency which the bp doesn't have?

[peak void]

the gap between gilberta sig vs bp is bigger than yvonne's

[bronze plume]

its moreso the fact the bp weapon requires you to use a skill like we said

which isnt good cuz youd rather gilberta not use sp

[peak void]

its because of the BP requiring battle skill usage to proc its buff, whereas sig is just free

[bronze plume]

with sig she doesnt need too

[peak void]

yea it uses sp

[real mist]

oh okay so I guess I'll just use BP on yvonne and get sig for gilberta

[bronze plume]

her sig having ult gain is just icing on the cake

[peak void]

anw ill just grab navigator now right

cant really afford yvonne sig atp

[bronze plume]

whats perlicas best set for electric team

[quasi trout]

Can anyone confirm - we don't have a "training dummy" no?
Suppose you want to test out team combos and rotations?

What do players use? RE-crisis?

[fringe dirge]

I actually built my Alesh with so much ult gain that I have full ult energy back up before the cooldown is over

This feels so good

Can just start out fights with more sp and a free cryo app

And ult every 20 seconds

[ocean hawk]

yeah we dont have dummy atm

I use rodhagn personally

[fringe dirge]

Only thing is I play a team without a medic and I'm blowing through my medicine using Rodhagn as a training dummy

[dapper nacelle]

So should I be using bone crusher or swordmancer on chen if I proc vuln with Lifeng?

[fringe dirge]

I should swap to the mass produced factory medicine instead of the good farm stuff

[dapper nacelle]

Oh the combo probably still applies set effect...

[bronze plume]

thats the set chen should use

[dapper nacelle]

Yeah that's kinda what I was looking at

I've been looking at different sources

Started off mildly disagreeing with it but think it might be correct

And/or my previous gear was better for when you aren't running Lifeng

[fringe dirge]

I use the swordmancer set but with 1 pc of Xiranite for the ult gen

Lets my Chen ult every rotation

You don't need it though if you have the pot that reduces ult cost

It's not like her ult is very critical when you use it, I just like use it at the same time every rotation

[real mist]

for perlica, detonation unit or her sig?

[calm gazelle]

avy doesn’t need arclight but shes a great sp generator. akekuri can replace her if you havent pulled arclight. if you do have arclight she does require more infliction management so she requires a bit more button presses compared to akekuri

[final plume]

is this really sustainable as f2p?
or we eventually run out of pulls because they be giving less free pulls after 1.0?
TLDR they are saying pull till you get the dossier and chain it to the next banner and repeat indefinitely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcBQRktDdw

[calm gazelle]

who said theyre giving less pulls after 1.0? their most recent post said they’re giving more pulls for everyone in future patches

[final plume]

not my point, I wanna know if this is sustainable its basically saying you need on average 35 pulls per banner that is not counting free pulls and bond/aic qouta and I'm not sure if we getting 105 limited pulls per patch

[calm gazelle]

are the devs in the chat with us rn? how are any of us gonna know what the pull economy is until they actually drop events & endgame content?

[brave arrow]

How much better is Gilberta Sig compare to like.. BP and OBJ art identifier?

[calm gazelle]

theyre basing info off what we have rn, youre gambling with rng if youre pulling every banner but not saving up to pity

[calm gazelle]

its going go depend on who youre using it for but its a great sig bc its got ulti efficiency

[brave arrow]

on Gilb herself

[wild meteor]

What's the consensus on Gilberta? Is she and her wep not worth going all in for?

[calm gazelle]

it’s her bis. it’s going to be insane on her as shes a big combo skill + ult bot that gives debuff, & buffs

[celest rivet]

Which gear should i use on Wulf and Akekuri? on a Laeva team

[calm gazelle]

shes not fully out yet but she’s going to be the best support alongside ardelia. if the endgame content they release requires 2 teams then she’ll be in every other team ardelia isnt

[calm gazelle]

if youre on endgame you run frontier on akekuri, wulf is flexible. can build him as dps or support/ult bot. ardelia/antal runs xiranite

[celest rivet]

Ty

[wild meteor]

I guess we shld wait for umbral?

[final plume]

yes that is fine but if its actually not sustainable indefinitely then I'd rather just save for a guarantee

cause if they are doing this only for, lets say a patch or two like a group of 6 banners they chain together but then have to stop because not enough pulls to chain, have to save again to do this for another batch then I'd rather save for guaranteed and have less 6*

its good though if its indefinite cause you'd be getting more weapon from arsenal and end quota exchange but if not then I wouldn't gamble whether I get a limited or which limited

maybe I'll stick to saving for guarantee for now and see if this is sustainable then I'll switch

[calm gazelle]

yeah her banner is here till then so can wait if shes not a waifu pull for you

[ocean hawk]

the daisy chaining topic on reddit (iirc the reddit post came before the video) stated that u need to top up a little, so not fully f2p

[calm gazelle]

yeah well if youre f2p no gacha lets you pull every single unit guaranteed. or else they’d never make money. the only pity that carries over is the 80. if youre not hitting the 120 pity its kind of a waste bc thats just 40 pulls away. if youre pulling every banner you screw yourself when the time comes when a unit u want is here but wasted pulls doing 50/50s previously

[ocean hawk]

if u f2p, just save imo

[calm gazelle]

^

[ocean hawk]

atleast save 120 pull for character u want to get / need

[lime bear]

run Akekuri ult spam set with redeemer seal

[dry kindle]

how much

[lime bear]

oh shit wrong reply erm

[ocean hawk]

i dont quite remember, lemme reopen the reddit post

[lime bear]

here run Akekuri ult spam set

cuz most of her kit is just spam ult as fast so you get the SP buff

[final plume]

yes I get that, his method is actually just pulling 60 every time whether or not you get something and soley relies on that 50/50 80 pity carry over, so you're not guaranteeing every unit just giving yourself lots of chances to get said unit and others if you chain cause they be staying for 3 banners
@ocean hawk yes but that is with the current state of the game, I guess we really wont know until they drop a repeatable/rotating endgame where it rewards resetting pull currency

yeah I'm saving right now but gonna watch this topic and see if there is merit to it

[ocean hawk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArknightsEndfield/comments/1qw0xvy/daisychaining_gacha_banners/

@dry kindle it didnt stated how much but well he include card swiping

so....

[dry kindle]

🔥

[ocean hawk]

yeah, if we want to use that strat (gamble strat) we need to make sure if the pulls economy (from game events and etc) is enough / stable

[calm gazelle]

the ult spam build isnt her best build. its better situationally & frontier will be more valuable upfront. her ult spam build is better when yk what youre doing with rotations & optimizing. most trim clears with akekuri run frontier not ulti spam

[ocean hawk]

but the normal strat is just to save atleast 120

even though we getting the chartered early

just to be save

[woeful plume]

its just that she is p0

[bronze plume]

i mean the reason you run frontier on speedruns is cuz you dont really need more then 1 ult if you are well speedrunning and frontier gives dmg so

[dry kindle]

the stable income in question

[ocean hawk]

correct

[dry kindle]

its not looking good so far

also fuck whoever made the banners 17 days 🗿

[bronze plume]

hope to god they decide to make it only 2 banners in 1.1

[peak void]

did u know that the original arknights has 14 day banners 😆

[ocean hawk]

the cycle is too fast because we had 3 char per chartered

[peak void]

though tbf they give like 2 more pulls every week compared to here

[dry kindle]

why couldnt it be 14 or 21

why 17

[calm gazelle]

yeah I run frontier when I cleared all trims. you just want to pump lavacake damage. the ulti spam is more niche. i can see it being helpful with skill issue if not doing proper rotations bc itll fill the sp gaps if user cant dodge

[bronze plume]

and a way better pull economy no weapon banner and limited banners are only once every 3 months instead of every single banner

whats yo point

[peak void]

in the middle of 14 and 21 lol

[dry kindle]

explode

[peak void]

you mean combustion?

[bronze plume]

its not more niche is just the overall better set obviously in speedrunning you want more dmg over it so thats why frontier is used there

[peak void]

i did just mention that we get more pulls

[bronze plume]

its not hard to understand the usecases of each one

[peak void]

maybe lemme cook a bit longer

[final plume]

and they give more if its limited you have 24 free pulls

[bronze plume]

you never started to cook in the first place

the fries are still in the bag

[manic blade]

So sad thought umbral was coming

[tender zephyr]

Gil fits on LR and Avy team? or do they use arde

[peak void]

we dont even have umbral yet

its too early to say anything

[bronze plume]

naur is like a weekish into gil banner

[manic blade]

Ya ):

[ocean hawk]

umbral is on 12

[bronze plume]

idk how they think umbral will save the dogshit economy of pulls and weapon banner (they dont)

[ocean hawk]

so 5 more days

[calm gazelle]

well if you read I told them in endgame frontier is where its at bc it is whats better damage overall. ulti efficiency set is just for ease of use. how does that make it the overall better set when its not? lmao

[ocean hawk]

wait, who thought umbral give better pull economy

[bronze plume]

sigh...

[peak void]

the weapons are in a weird spot

idk what to feel abt it

on one hand its free

[bronze plume]

i mean it gives pulls so

[peak void]

on the other, what if u get early units

[final plume]

man I wish its not another damage timer race where if you dont have enough damage your skill wont matter

[manic blade]

F2P crown source is nice

[ocean hawk]

yeah but..

well

a pulls is a pulls

[bronze plume]

more pulls = more pulls in the economy

the question is how much more

cuz in cbt2 it didnt even give pulls

[manic blade]

What end game is not that 😭

[peak void]

we will see

[calm gazelle]

literally. endgame is always a dmg race

[bronze plume]

and they said in the livestream they will be adding timed rewards for umbral

[ocean hawk]

so the timers matters now ?

[bronze plume]

in cbt2 it was just 3 stages with 2 difficulties each complete them in under 10 mins and get all the rewards

[bronze plume]

most likely

[manic blade]

I have low expectations for end games since Stygian dropped…

[calm gazelle]

comfy cozy ult spam playstyle =/= better overall compared to a set that literally increases damage overall

they’ll have trim medals for endgame for sure

[bronze plume]

they said something about timed rewards as to if that makes it like abyss from genshin only time will tell when they realease it

[calm gazelle]

if theyre already doing it for the 3 bosses we have

[bronze plume]

umbral already has trimmed medals

[calm gazelle]

just for more flexing

[bronze plume]

you can quite literally look at them from the medal list

[manic blade]

I saw the one

[bronze plume]

theres 2

[final plume]

flexing is fine but gating rewards behind DPS timer is something else

[bronze plume]

it depends on what the rewards behind the timer is

[calm gazelle]

i only read my own trim medals

[manic blade]

500 pulls

[bronze plume]

if you get the pulls from just doing it in the full 10 min

[calm gazelle]

nah doubt theyll gate rewards on trim medals.

[bronze plume]

and then say 7 mins is resources and 5 or whatever is crowns its fine

[calm gazelle]

they know to just make it for the sweats & tryhards

[bronze plume]

but if you have to do it in 3 mins for the pulls the thing people care most about

its chalked

[final plume]

yeah I hope so

[dry mason]

[manic blade]

Mb

[bronze plume]

in cbt2 the trim medal was just for completing the harder mode on all 3 stages

its the same for now

you can literally look at the requirements for the medals

they are ez af

[dry mason]

Do I need Yvonne if alr had LR @dry kindle

[dry kindle]

still is

[chilly bolt]

Chat do i do a ten pull for a free emergency 10 pull

[dry kindle]

🗿

[dry mason]

Please tell me I dont

[manic blade]

What did agony mode even do lvl 100?

[bronze plume]

just made them higher level

so more dmg and more hp

[dry kindle]

you dont

[lime bear]

in cbt2 it's literally a 10 minute timer and afaik there's no rewards lock behind if you clear it in x mins

just clear it before 10 minutes no

[lime bear]

https://youtu.be/nPtcssJd9ro?si=f4BHG_uFPMjB5YT6

[ocean hawk]

because its cbt i think ?

[outer ermine]

[bronze plume]

no its not p2w you stupid clickbaiter

[ocean hawk]

coz of this ?

[manic blade]

Wait u can’t use consumables 😭

Can u not food buff either

[ocean hawk]

all state is reseted when enterring i think

idk tho

[lime bear]

that's why it's endgame

[calm gazelle]

is that the dossier or just another free 10pull? cuz if its the dossier sure if you want to pull on gilberta.

[ocean hawk]

someone said it has changes about tactical use

[lime bear]

[calm gazelle]

this is moreso skill issue than p2w

[chilly bolt]

The emergency one, for doing 30 pulls

Cuz i get 20 for free

[manic blade]

Would make sense the strong consumables you craft from eco farm and stuff would be allowed in endgame

[calm gazelle]

avywenna 5* team can clear it

[lime bear]

the thumbnail is clickbait he in the vid says it's literally not P2W

[manic blade]

Like why dmg buff only for bosses you don’t even need it for

[lime bear]

cmon 10 minutes timer and no elemental advantage

shit is piss easy

[bronze plume]

doesnt this just fill you with hope "we added time challenges to it"

doesnt that sound good

[calm gazelle]

do you plan on pulling for gil? if youre a gambling addict you can do it. its another 10 pull but it doesnt stack pity

[bronze plume]

oh

[lime bear]

as long as there's still no elemental advantage I'm happy

[bronze plume]

what are these goals

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-shocked-meme-funny-gif-16202716903781766308

[bronze plume]

goal complete within 1min for a 10 pull

[calm gazelle]

frontier set sounds better there eh?

lmao jp

[chilly bolt]

I dont really need gil, but it looks like a good deal

[bronze plume]

its not

[calm gazelle]

then gamba if you want to. no ones gonna stop you

[bronze plume]

the 10 pull via doing 30 that doesnt count for pity

is not a good deal

[chilly bolt]

I already got 20 for free

[calm gazelle]

yeah i told em it doesnt count for pity

[lime bear]

complete it within 10 minutes trust

[calm gazelle]

but some people love a deal

[bronze plume]

you are quite literally playing into there gacha systems trap

youve played yoself

[calm gazelle]

if youre not f2p its not THAT bad

if youre f2p pulls are limited so youd better be mindful

or be like most gamba addicts & yolo

[chilly bolt]

Basically it's a 20 pulls at 50% price, but the drawback is i lose 10 pulls

[calm gazelle]

ye you lose 10 in the long run

but you also are getting closer to pity regardless

just not close to 120 pity if you care for gil

[wild meteor]

Idgi did you reply to me intentionally or was it for someone else

[lime bear]

wrong reply

[fossil narwhal]

what's the best akekuri build? Rn im running Frontiers with Xiranite gloves

[wild meteor]

Yeah okay Ty. Yeah I'll probably wait till day 7 at least

[bronze plume]

frontiers or ult gain

those are the 2 options

[bold rose]

all I need to do now is etch the essence

[summer flower]

Don't tell me for eu/na its na time being server time

[dry kindle]

Ew why is there slowmode

[ocean hawk]

i think its bot auto manage

coz we got big chat influx

[dense wraith]

Hmmm out of curiosity, would my p2 Gilberta work with ember well and therefore ember would also work better in a laevatain team? I’m not really sure honestly but idk

[bronze plume]

ember just

doesnt work period theres always better options

[undone condor]

na time for what?

[bronze plume]

for the server time they said that gang

[undone condor]

well yeah but what does that even mean? like when server resets? because it's not really at a good spot for NA

[bronze plume]

thats

[bold rose]

If I'm using perlica as LR sup then should I not give her the obvious electric set

[bronze plume]

a great question

[bold rose]

xiranite looks like obv but xaihi already use that and you can't have two

hell even xaihi might not get that set since arde does

[dapper mason]

i prio xiranite on xaihi since i rarely use ardel skill

damn LR need a sp recovery support

[pure haven]

im lookin at iana's spreadsheet, whats the diff between these 2 redeemer seals? I assume ake uses the will+crit?

[bronze plume]

why would she use the crit giving one

[woeful plume]

no they just mean equip both

[pure haven]

yea thats why im kinda clueless on why there isnt an icon for it kek

[dapper mason]

int and ult gain

[bronze plume]

they probably just forgot the icon or something

[woeful plume]

in hindsight they could have put the ult gain icon but yeah

it should be obvious enough

[pure haven]

yep gotcha, thanks gng

[ocean hawk]

I got question for gilb in lae lineup

is the sheet means that ardelia is always last slot

and gilb replacing akekuri

[woeful plume]

you still replace ardelia nw

[ocean hawk]

so flex doesnt mean its a dedicated slot ?

learning new thing everyday

[cinder oxide]

I can't take it anymore. I'm sick of arts intensity. I try to use attack boost. Arts Intensity scales better. I try to use phys dmg boost. Arts Intensity scales better. I try to use combo skill dmg boost. Arts Intensity scales better. I want to use ultimate dmg boost. Arts Intensity pairs best with it. I want to play Pogranichnik, Da Pan, Chen Lifeng, Endmin. They all want arts intensity.

My Phys team pins me down. I farm Wuling stock bills for them. I optimise the factory for xiranite components. I craft Hot Work Power cartridges. They are only standard matches. I craft more. "I want stronger breach application" Pogranichnik tells me. "Give me more arts intensity." The artificings go to max pity every time. "You just need to funnel us more. We can scale to the moon with higher arts intensity."

I can't purchase more Wuling Artificing Catalysts, I don't have enough stock bills. I grabs my credit card. You can’t cash for Arts Intensity gear. "Guess this is the end." Chen puts on her Æthertech gloves. She says "A blade unsheathed, its light unleashed." There is no hint of braincells in those eyes. Nothing but instant vulnerability stack application on a 12 second cooldown. What a cruel world.

Yes I wrote this myself

[ocean hawk]

voting this to become #theorycrafting copy pasta

[bold rose]

isn't this a well known pasta alr

[cinder oxide]

Yeah I rewrote it for Arts intensity instead of XL from Genshin

[ocean hawk]

im new in here, like 1 week old

[bold rose]

this was a Genshin pasta

[cinder oxide]

It’s basically the same format but entirely contextual to Endfield

[ocean hawk]

ah, pardon me then, but still I dont play genshin, so im new

[bold rose]

about Xiangling
so gen 1 Genshin

[calm gazelle]

embers only ever really ran in phys team. primarily stagger builds. it trims though

[vestal turtle]

hot work or ult gain on wulf, if im running laev+wulf+akekuri+antal

[bronze plume]

ult gain

[calm gazelle]

^

he’s just a glorified heat stacker. his dmg is lackluster

[vestal turtle]

is he just a combust bot for laev's combo?

[bronze plume]

yuh

[vestal turtle]

aside from the heat inflict

[calm gazelle]

his ult combust has some uses vs aoe mobs which puts combust in a fat aoe & then popping lavacakes combo skill hits them all

[bronze plume]

he doesnt do enuf dmg himself to warrant sub dps options

the team is like 99.99% laev in terms of the dmg

[vestal turtle]

true

[calm gazelle]

just pure utility

gets u 3 stacks at p5 & hes done his job

[bronze plume]

and more enemies hit via laevs combo skill = more ult gain for her

[calm gazelle]

^

[next helm]

"You really need to know what you are doing "

What do I need to know

[calm gazelle]

works really well on p2 for marble aggey when they shield up

[vestal turtle]

oh right, didn't think about that

[calm gazelle]

for gilb? rotations are different compared to ardelia since she doesnt have a guarantee corrosion proc.

she can also help hit ulti efficiency breakpoints & have to fit certain burst windows within her ult. but if you have her sig she can turn to an ult bot to mitigate that

[dapper mason]

and me put clannibal on him like im gonna use it. need new wewapon or new gear set

[calm gazelle]

clannibals decent on him its just a bit tricky to play around bc you use sp without building a stack

it can be mitigated w/ akekuri though

[dapper mason]

yeah its really hard to get both ardel and wulf debuff without ruining heat stack rotation.

[frozen tide]

You normally give up clan effect

[calm gazelle]

^

ardelias got better buffs

[frozen tide]

And just play without it

[calm gazelle]

ardelia needing sp to provide her buffs is probably her weakest point. whereas gilberta doesnt need any sp & gives multiple buffs & debuffs ontop of her sig buffs & passive ulti efficiency. shes sleeper good when optimized for sure

[frozen tide]

Ardelia only needs to use sp once every 30 secs

Unelss ur trynna stack corrosion too

[calm gazelle]

I can see a future team built running ultspam akekuri w/ gil, lavacake, & wulfgard

[dapper mason]

i havent read gilb kit. is she that good compare to ardel ?

[calm gazelle]

theyre both great premier sups

[frozen tide]

Ard has more general uses

[calm gazelle]

ardelia is the easiest plug & play support with value for sure

[frozen tide]

Gilb is more specialized

[calm gazelle]

^ pretty much

[bronze plume]

gilb requires brain
Ardelia just requires her combo to be able to happen in the team

[calm gazelle]

gilb will most likely be ran in optimized setups in speedruns

[frozen tide]

Gilb is best for dps

[dapper mason]

well if i got her i will try her in lae team

[frozen tide]

Damage per screenshot

[daring dove]

Kinda just feel this tier list is run by the antal fan-club.

[calm gazelle]

& sp during corro

[bronze plume]

in terms of speed runs gilb is used

[frozen tide]

How is yvonne t0 lmao

[calm gazelle]

antals actually good on st bosses

[vestal turtle]

shes bad

[bronze plume]

i have yet to see a good tierlist

[frozen tide]

We just be putting anybody up there

[vestal turtle]

whoever put her t0 is simping for her

[calm gazelle]

yvonne doesnt have her sig yet so shes weaker than what she could be for sure

[bronze plume]

she still aint t0

[rugged kiln]

bait tier list

[daring dove]

He is but is he the best character in the game, that site thinks so

[vestal turtle]

she needs a sig and a unit that works with her

[bronze plume]

last rite, antal, and endmin are also debatable

[calm gazelle]

we’ll see when we sig drops. could be the game changer to push her to t0

[frozen tide]

Yvonne is t1 at best

[silk mulch]

is gilb weapon a must?

[frozen tide]

Being generous

[dapper mason]

well took me i dont know how many time today to trim marble with ardel.

[bronze plume]

naur just very very good when compared to other options

[calm gazelle]

last rite builds have been explored & shes got builds that do more dmg than yvonne & is competitive w/ lavacake so I can see why they rate her highly

[peak void]

would anyone happen to know where the highest concentration of enemies in overworld is

[cinder oxide]

Just load up any severe energy alluvium

[peak void]

i cant use those

[calm gazelle]

i dont use lastrite nor agree necessarily but i understand ppl who rate her highly

[peak void]

for the specific thing im tryna do

[cinder oxide]

What are u trying to do?

[rain copper]

You can skip prize

[peak void]

kill a lot of enemies

[peak void]

whether i skip or not, those dont count

[cinder oxide]

?? Why are you killing a lot

[calm gazelle]

her biggest value is in her ulti which her sig gives her ult efficiency ontop of extra arts dmg so it’s a big boost overall but you wont die without it. her ults just wont be as consistent w/o her sig

[peak void]

u dont really have to know do u

i just need an answer

[ocean hawk]

wuling maintenance zone and the area near it

[rugged kiln]

I wish someone from the future could tell me how well gilberta aged rn 😔

[vestal turtle]

there's like two spots in wuling where there's multiple packs near each other

[ocean hawk]

whats wrong with answering it, did u plan to destroy wuling or smth

👀

[peak void]

🤫

[calm gazelle]

supports will always age the most gracefully in games like these

[silk mulch]

i see i only have 5k after getting her, cant even guarantee the weapon and pity doesnt carry over 🙁

[cinder oxide]

Someone with all the blob enemies in Wuling but not sure which pack

[calm gazelle]

id be more curious to see how lavacake & yvonne age

[calm gazelle]

theres events coming up so hopefully you get lucky mate!

[peak void]

i mean i can just say that "i wanna kill a lot" and thats it

i just think the question was pointless

[silk mulch]

unless they somehow give 11k for weapon pulls i doubt so xd

[calm gazelle]

probably south of wuling has a good chunk of mobs running around

or the east side by the mines

[peak void]

"im going to kill a lot of enemies because i want to kill a lot of enemies" 🤷"

[calm gazelle]

heres to u getting gilb for 2k & pulling her sig off that lol

[peak void]

yeap ill check that

[calm gazelle]

this works too lol. more waved based tho

[peak void]

selective are we

[silk mulch]

seems like a bad move to be pulling like that as f2p

[calm gazelle]

then you can skip

[dapper mason]

kekw

[calm gazelle]

ardelia is already here

[silk mulch]

ya unfortunately

[dapper mason]

im more curious now what you going to do

[peak void]

oh right this place

[ocean hawk]

sus

[dapper mason]

ok i know now

[calm gazelle]

yee lots of em there

[peak void]

i guess maint zone and courtyard are also good

[calm gazelle]

u testing p5 lavacake or something?

[dapper mason]

you trying to farm wuling stock bills i guess

[calm gazelle]

oh thats a great point rito

[peak void]

that is one reason 😆

[calm gazelle]

oh shit daily reset

[silk mulch]

actl, for weapon is it advisable to pull only when u can do 8 multis like 120 pulls for character or just bet on that 1%?

[peak void]

maybe i can hit this camp in the hub too

[dapper mason]

you really got time to do that huh. even my energy alluvium dont have combat turret

[peak void]

yeah i have a flight tmrw but im already prepared

[frozen tide]

What is a strength Yvonne has that other dps don't have or lack in comparison of

[peak void]

so now im just wasting time

[vestal turtle]

being able to use crit might be the only aspect

[calm gazelle]

shes got st but thats it. no good iframes & can be interrupted. she doesnt have her sig so shes gimped. crits her only thing

but shes a baddie tho

[cinder oxide]

Found a website called Icy Veins that lets you check exactly what you improve at every skill upgrade level. Lvl 12 is Mastery 3

[dapper mason]

yes this help me alot when i want to upgrade my buffer

[vestal turtle]

icy veins is quite popular

i still remember when it was just about world of warcraft

[cinder oxide]

This was what let me check that I only needed to M1 Pog Ult and battle skill

And that everything else was just dmg scaling

[dapper mason]

thats when i realized wulf has nothing to upgrade

[calm gazelle]

hes just there to aurafarm & shoot flaming pebbles

[copper orbit]

Nvm I found it

[daring dove]

Did they extend Laevatains banner or something.

That things been finishing in 1 day for like 3 days now.

[frozen tide]

Your sense of time is warping

[calm gazelle]

^. the banner literally tells you when it ends

[frozen tide]

As ange banner approach

[ocean hawk]

money

incoming motorcycle and drill model for display

[daring dove]

I don't trust it anymore its been gaslighting me.

I'm not even sure why I'm continuing to push trust past trust past 100

[cinder oxide]

More lore otw to 200%

[cedar crypt]

How do I get this chest?

[calm gazelle]

for the love of the game

i did the same too dw. just dont waste the wuling gifts on it

[cinder oxide]

That’s a #help qns but you’re missing one bunny. It’s supposed to be 4

[calm gazelle]

there might be 1 more long ear

[empty crag]

What is gilbertas purpose?

[calm gazelle]

to buff debuff group & look cute

so a cute support

[frozen tide]

Grouping arts susc and ult charge buff for team

She's honestly pretty good

[calm gazelle]

^

will be goated w/ sig

[frozen tide]

Unlike a certain ice character coming soon TM

[empty crag]

Does she work for laev in anyway

[empty crag]

Is yvonne really that bad?

[frozen tide]

It depends on your metric for bad

[empty crag]

Compare her to laev

[vestal turtle]

compared to other 6* yes she sucks

[frozen tide]

She can clear all content in the game including trims

[frozen tide]

Oh fucking terrible

[daring dove]

Took me about 30 runs to get that for my Ardelia

[empty crag]

So does gilberta work in any way for laev?

[dapper plover]

if i have endmin chen pog lifeng but i want to get ardelia my best bet would be to ditch pog correct?

[half gulch]

whats the dmg increase for gilberta with her sig vs stanza

[empty crag]

Lifeng pretty sure

[dapper plover]

alr

[frozen tide]

You can use her with laev

[normal rapids]

?Kinda lost. I have all the mines in Wuling, and all upgrades, does anyone have any recommendayions of blueprints

[empty crag]

is she bis?

[frozen tide]

Mmmm

[peak void]

sometimes

[frozen tide]

Tough question

[empty crag]

In aoe i assume

[frozen tide]

She is sometimes bis for boss speed kills and grouping is nice qol

But for general single target use ard is probs better and easier

[empty crag]

Who would she swap for?

[frozen tide]

Ard

[vestal turtle]

i wouldnt say better, ardelia just makes it easier for less skilled players

[empty crag]

dang

if it was antal it would be an instant pull

[frozen tide]

Ard strength: Higher debuff uptime meaning longer you are damaging a boss the better she is generally, no infliction meaning she always fits in rotation

Gilb strength: grouping capability, shorter period and uptime but higher debuff amount as well as providing team more frequent ults

[empty crag]

i levelled ard to 90 yesterday

so is it worth it

[rare zodiac]

7% energy efficiency is kinda questionable

[cinder oxide]

??? Why.

[frozen tide]

Its to everyone on team so it adds up to be smth

[cinder oxide]

Waste of resources

[empty crag]

I like her

alot

[rare zodiac]

Based

[cinder oxide]

Fair nough my Da Pan gets all the good stuff

[wild sparrow]

how needed is gilberta sig? i have at max 20 pulls for her sig, but i can get either detonation, opus, or any other 5*s

[gritty olive]

me when

[cinder oxide]

I even used my wp box for his sig

[gritty olive]

oh slowmode

someone was primarily sending offtopic here iirc. sad it got smited

[fading stirrup]

No wonder why, when I put gilb, my team always have fast regen ult

[rare zodiac]

In Lae team there is more, free 1 Lae combo trigger, that huge

[rare zodiac]

Is 7% for guard/caster/support really that impactful? Like striker and vanguard get non

[frozen tide]

You can't have 100 uptime with just built wulf laev?

Every wulf cs ult and laev bs is combustion

[rare zodiac]

Wulf only have combustion on ult not combo?

[frozen tide]

Oh is it

[rare zodiac]

And lae need 4 stack to combustion

[empty crag]

if i didnt build wulf and built akekuri instead is that a big gamechanger?

[frozen tide]

You usually use both for laev

[open hare]

Guys, what do I get as 4 piece for last rite again

[frozen tide]

Wulf is mandatory

[open hare]

I use 4 piece instead of 3 PC

[empty crag]

i thought antal was an akekuri replacement

[dense wraith]

Uhhhh for gilbertas p2 is her ult 168% arts damage taken? Compared to 42%??????? How is it calculated assuming max stacks

[empty crag]

i want to have most laev characters built anyway so i can test things out so ill get wulf to 80

what does wulf do for laev?

combust?

[frozen tide]

Antal gilb is an alternate comp that is used yes but laev wulf always stays

Wulf applies heat and combustion

And a very small sp return too

[empty crag]

whats wulfs bis weapon and set?

[rare zodiac]

Heat infliction on combo to build up stack with 0 sp cost, combustion on ult, 15% heat buff on p4, 16-28% art taken debuff on enchanted combat skill if have sig

[frozen tide]

Wulf weap honestly doesn't matter too much but bis is clannibal

[empty crag]

yikes, does wedge work?

[frozen tide]

Oh iana changed his sheet

He considers obj bis now

[empty crag]

velocitous?

[woeful plume]

obj is just easier to use

[rare zodiac]

If you go for 240% energy for ease of use

[vestal turtle]

obj purely for the ult gain?

[frozen tide]

Makes sense

[rare zodiac]

Clan is very hard to use unless you do some unholy rotation

[frozen tide]

Wulf cant really sub dps cause his dmg is dookie

And theres no good buff weap option

[rare zodiac]

Dmg is good, but requires sp, with Lae eat it all

[vestal turtle]

i mean if you time it right laev gets a nice dmg boost from clannibal

[woeful plume]

i honestly never had a problem w clan but that might just be me

[vestal turtle]

same tbh

[empty crag]

alright thats cool, the thing scaring me away from building wulf is not having clan so

[woeful plume]

it was up whenever i needed it

[rare zodiac]

To utilize clan you need him to use enchanted battle skill, with take 80sp that Lae really need

[frozen tide]

His battle skill also eats combustion

[snow bone]

What's better for surtr

Eyjafjalla or Angelina

[vestal turtle]

I find myself having wulf's ebs up while I'm trying to get melting stacks on laev, so there are specific windows it can be used

[woeful plume]

ardelia

[rare zodiac]

Oh an OG ark player

[woeful plume]

wow, how did u notice

[cinder oxide]

God arts intensity is so nice. Instead of just +30% it’s x130% and that’s just better

[calm gazelle]

pretty much agreed

[woeful plume]

nothing tough with her

laeva dmg isnt condensed, you want 30 second buff over 5 second

[snow bone]

Can u explain to me why cuz some others say it's angelina

[woeful plume]

long as u arent one rotating the boss gilb isnt better

idk about this "less skilled, more skilled" talk you guys have either, their amp is almost identical

[rare zodiac]

Ardelia for long fight Gil for nice screenshot

[empty crag]

does gilberta have a use for phys teams?

[woeful plume]

one lasts longer, and laevas damage is spread out through her ult

[woeful plume]

not really no

[empty crag]

if i dont have lifeng?

[woeful plume]

idk what that changes

[rare zodiac]

20% phys Susceptibility

[calm gazelle]

gilb with sig has stronger arts buffs than ardelia

[woeful plume]

where

[calm gazelle]

& her sig gives her almost 50% ult efficiency. shes popping it off cd everytime

in specialized speedruns she’ll infact do more dmg overall than ardelia.

[frozen tide]

Gilb unlike ard does not apply phys susc

[calm gazelle]

she doesnt require any sp usage

[woeful plume]

heavy quote on the speedrun

[calm gazelle]

ardelia needs to cast on corrosion to have value

[frozen tide]

Once every 30 secs yes

25 if maximizing starry

[calm gazelle]

yeah thats why we said ardelias easier for plug & play casual.

[woeful plume]

ardelia is better for laeva long as you arent one rotating

its not a casual/expert thing

[calm gazelle]

gilb will be better in trimming & specialized runs

[woeful plume]

laeva dmg isnt condensed as much as the other users of gilb

[frozen tide]

Both can easily trim

[woeful plume]

you... replied to gilberta

[civic wolf]

so i have everyone but Gilberta and Arclight (lol)

In what teams are Gilberta consdered valuable?

aside of Yvonne comp

[frozen tide]

Her bis teams are yvonne and avy(electro)

[calm gazelle]

lightning for sure

[rare zodiac]

Ah shit my bad

[frozen tide]

Gilberta also has use cases for last rite and laev

[woeful plume]

all good all good

[empty crag]

is it safe to assume that rossi may be some sort of replacement for wulf in laev?

[woeful plume]

it isnt safe to assume

[frozen tide]

No

[empty crag]

dang

[frozen tide]

How would you just assume that we know nothing about her

[empty crag]

well heat

[woeful plume]

schling u main LR right

[frozen tide]

Yes

[empty crag]

probably

[woeful plume]

do u 3 + 3 on tidefall light armor or 3 + 4

[empty crag]

either support or dps

[civic wolf]

would a 120 pull for gilberta be justified? or nah not really? Im already 120 pull deep into lava so im probably going broke if i go for Gilbera lo

[woeful plume]

u dont need gilberta

[frozen tide]

Unless p4 you need to 3+4 even with tide

[woeful plume]

wait really?

[civic wolf]

even Yvonne comp? What about Last Rite sig free Last Rite

[frozen tide]

Matter of fact you don't get ult with 3+4 without tide starting 0

[civic wolf]

also a bad idea to try etting Last Rite sig?

[woeful plume]

yvonne likes her, if u have yvonne and want to like make her better u can

[woeful plume]

if u want to play LR u kinda need it, its a very powerful sig

[woeful plume]

oh lord

[civic wolf]

yeh i did say i have everyone but gilb lol

[woeful plume]

u would have to chill a lot if u blow all pulls to gilb, do keep that in mind

[frozen tide]

Shes such a chungus character big ahh dmg tho and p4 makes all her breakpoints one less as well for ult

[vestal turtle]

it would be worth going til 60 pulls and if you don't get anything it'll just carry over for next banner

[woeful plume]

do u have p4 or

[frozen tide]

Nop

[calm gazelle]

no ones saying ardelia isn’t good on laev. we all know shes good & easier to maximize her usage. but gilberta with sig will open up more strats w/ lavacake that will outdps ardelia in dmg race content. she provides a ulti efficiency boost ontop of higher dmg amps & debuffs. yes duration is shorter but she’ll have high ult recasts off cd. its easier to say it takes less skill to use ardelia bc it does. you pop her skill when she corrosions & thats it. gilb doesnt need any sp to maximize her value & thats adds extra in rotation. we say shes more skill based bc she is as she specialized you build around her burst windows. its rly not that difficult to understand. theyre both great units. one is clearly more one dimensional than the other but thats not a bad thing

[frozen tide]

Ive mostly only spent for freemium

[dry kindle]

whel

[rare zodiac]

Gib is good if you heavy invested in Lae Battle skill as that 5s is enough, but for a lengthy fight, Ard is better

[empty crag]

so why is last rite and yvonne not good together

[frozen tide]

Both are dps that consume cryo

[rare zodiac]

Not really, last can be Yvonne enabler

[calm gazelle]

true but these games never revolve around length. its always a damage race. trim medals are so far have been based on clearing bosses under certain time limits

[woeful plume]

[empty crag]

whats a trim medal?

[rare zodiac]

Ard is also extra good if you have p4 Lae and play unholy 200% enery efficiency Lae like me

[frozen tide]

On some thoughts bcz most of lr ult bps are very slightly short just having ange on the team would make lr hit all of them

[calm gazelle]

also a very valid point. in cases like these ardelia would be better if laev is p4 with an ulti every single rotation

but p1-3 lavacake she can definitely make use of first ex combo w/ gilb ulti & by the time 2nd rotation is done, gilb will have ult up again

[woeful plume]

isnt LR a striker

[rare zodiac]

Lae p4 is kinda op imo, enabling the 1 combo 1 EBS 0 to 300 ult

[frozen tide]

Ur right whyd i think ange gave everyone ult buff

[empty crag]

is it worth artificing for ardelia wulf or antal?

[frozen tide]

Dookie character skipping her banner gg

[calm gazelle]

is 200% the exact breakpoint at p4?

[frozen tide]

Snoozing till 1.1 banners

[rare zodiac]

Let me recheck my excel

[summer flower]

You could have later survival style mode

[empty crag]

do you assume rossi will come out in 1.1 / is it confirmed?

[summer flower]

Where goal is to keep fighting with stronger enemies

[calm gazelle]

this would do amazing wonders for defenders so i’m not against it

[summer flower]

And boom, sustain is wanted

[calm gazelle]

but sometimes those game modes also revolve around kill them faster before they kill you. gilb would also have extra value in that she does aoe grouping which is perfect with lavacake ulti since she pushes ppl w her greatsword

[frozen tide]

I would think shes either 1.1 or 1.2 but no clue

[rare zodiac]

Minimum 178.9 energy efficiency

[calm gazelle]

its probably tangtang/mifu on 1.1

[summer flower]

Scaling strenght, plus its not like its single operator where its all player agency in not getting hit

[calm gazelle]

is this registering the basic 100% so 78.9 or actually +178.9 on stats?

[frozen tide]

They are releasing chen tang tang mifu on 1.1 and chen zhuang chen in 1.2 i saw in a dream

[empty crag]

endgame is 14th right?

[gritty olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275737447803654146/1469631783837372468/image0.jpg?ex=69885cc1&is=69870b41&hm=0a6d2647e23c6e786fb3db388d3a790914b247f5ae442297cc1130f91bbab342&

[calm gazelle]

12th

[gritty olive]

Is this a fairly good rotation for laev

[rare zodiac]

The first one

[calm gazelle]

ulti efficiency to hit breakpoints at most.

[empty crag]

do we know what you do to clear yet?

[calm gazelle]

wow only 80% is insane. I actually just got her p4-5 today before her banner left so I was debating swapping from hot to ulti spam. I think youve convinced me to try it

[calm gazelle]

its umbral but we dont know if they changed it from beta

[rare zodiac]

I have a rot for that

[empty crag]

whats umbral?

[cinder oxide]

Brooooo they made all these nice modifiers like combo dmg, Phys dmg boost, skill dmg boost, ult dmg boost and mf arts intensity still scales better for all of it oml

[rare zodiac]

Need 12s to get from 0 to 300

[calm gazelle]

the endgame mode

[dry kindle]

wut

[calm gazelle]

stagger too

[dry kindle]

its not endgame

unless they buffed the shit out of it

[calm gazelle]

is this w/ ardelia wulfgard & akekuri/antal?

[gritty olive]

Arts intensity is just a diff dmg% mult

[calm gazelle]

its what we assume will be endgame but no idea until its actually out bc theres nothing else to do

[gritty olive]

since its less common as a buff, youd think of it as more i,pactful

[calm gazelle]

they could pull a genshin & make no endgame for casuals

[stiff lake]

Which energy alluvium is twelve questions for

[glad niche]

Umbral was:
Stage1 - 4 of those underground worms at once
Stage2 - random group of land breakers while a constant life drain is active on you
Stage3 - you fight the 2 land breaker mini bosses at once

[gritty olive]

Is this sp consistnet

[calm gazelle]

& this is off single target?

[cinder oxide]

A maxed out piece of phys dmg boost gloves still underperforms an unartificed arts intensity glove even when that glove has one dumpstat

[calm gazelle]

thats what tower endgame was for wuwa p much

[rare zodiac]

the yelow line under is sp

[cinder oxide]

The scaling is just straight up better

[ocean hawk]

what tools is this

[gritty olive]

Endaxistimeline

[calm gazelle]

thats sick mate. Imma yolo try this. does it need artificing on all the ult efficiency pieces?

[ocean hawk]

google search didnt give anything

[gritty olive]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline
its in chinese

[ocean hawk]

AH

i search the keyword u give to me directly

so thats why its not showing, thanks

[dry kindle]

mfw yours isnt having a seizure

[gritty olive]

anyways, i need to add umbral torch damage on laev + obj working so

[daring dove]

Really need to get that last pip for Flow, 20% teamwide damage buff would be pog.

[dense plank]

Im missing avywennas pot5 for the increased dmg multiplier on spears but it should be possible(?) to one shot him in phase 1

[gritty olive]

does OBJ sword activate on akekuri skill

[glad niche]

[ocean hawk]

@gritty olive would you mind showing the button to change the lang into en, coz translate doesnt work on my browser

[rare zodiac]

if you want sezure you can see my Yvonne p1 Last Rite rotation

[gritty olive]

no sadly iirc

[ocean hawk]

what did u use to change it into en then

[dry kindle]

mine just fuckin dies whenever i add combos

[frozen tide]

Restart its pulse

[dry kindle]

🗿

[gritty olive]

google translate
maybe try opera or chrome then

[ocean hawk]

WAIT WHAT HOW

[dry kindle]

just moonrune better

what are you dumb

[gritty olive]

"translate to english" does your browser not have an optiont o

[dire nymph]

u can google lens it on ur phone or learn 中文

[rare zodiac]

web translation extention?

[ocean hawk]

microsoft edge having a seizure rn

[calm gazelle]

ppl use edge?

[gritty olive]

[ocean hawk]

it works now, I just need to right click

[glad niche]

Edge

[calm gazelle]

firefix would treat you better

[ocean hawk]

well, its the same as chrome 1 to 1 in term of features

ahh, I dont use firefox

[calm gazelle]

chrome sucks too

ram all gone

[dry kindle]

why cant you be normal

[rare zodiac]

you will get used to it, one master it's pretty fun

[dry kindle]

but muh ocd

[ocean hawk]

sooo uhh, is there a guide for this tools

[dry kindle]

[dry kindle]

in moonrunes

[ocean hawk]

aight browsing rn

uhhh

[dry kindle]

https://gx3qqg8r3jk.feishu.cn/wiki/TUTyw3s32iPsAXkCfl0cCE0VnOj

[daring dove]

Nearly made best girl 90 anyway. Even though I can't figure out what making her 90 actually does for my team.

[dry kindle]

moonrunes

[ocean hawk]

what is this

[rare zodiac]

people said endfield combo is easy. Endfield combo:

[ocean hawk]

bookmarking it, thanks sworce

[dry kindle]

ew navigator

[rare zodiac]

well must use what we have

[ocean hawk]

and the docs cant be translated

[rare zodiac]

to much for p4 Lae

[dense plank]

Everytime you drift your cooldown by 1s you send perlica 30k

[summer flower]

?

[gritty olive]

Guys does obj work on akekuri when she skills?

[rare zodiac]

only combo and ult

[dry kindle]

timing having a seizure when you move combo buttons

[rare zodiac]

2 stack from combo, 3 stack from ult

[dry kindle]

just be normal and use thermite anyway

[rare zodiac]

because it factor in time stop

[gritty olive]

so this is incorrect

[summer flower]

Cut out paper to lenght relative to timing

Do it in physicial

[dry kindle]

no i dont think i will

[rare zodiac]

battle skill? no buff Combo skill? 2 stack buff Ult? 3 stack buff

[summer flower]

No issue with seizures, well, if issue with seizures then you should not worry about game at that moment

[gritty olive]

oh so it only works when she does combo skill. neat

[safe sand]

anyone here have a hella invested lifeng

[gritty olive]

ive improperly coded it to her normal skill

[rare zodiac]

the uptime for bossing is kinda scuff tho, her trigger condition is ass

[unreal light]

What’s the website for those graphs?

[dry kindle]

https://www.end-axis.com/timeline

[woeful plume]

@frozen tide broooo this is so annoying

her rotation feels smooth but

is there really no way to ult in two rotations without going for the fourth stack

[frozen tide]

Don't believe so not without sacrificing dmg big time anyway

[woeful plume]

she could have been so insane

[rare zodiac]

who?

[woeful plume]

LR

[frozen tide]

Well actually

There is one potential way

[rare zodiac]

what team?

[frozen tide]

Use ult gen offpiece with tide chest

Should make it 2 3 cycle comfortably

[rare zodiac]

LR hyper team?

[woeful plume]

ye

[woeful plume]

tide chest is on piece tho no

ok i just checked there literally isnt any better gloves to run

[rare zodiac]

can i have the teammate name so i can test out a rotation to find if it's possible?

[woeful plume]

LR xaihi akekuri ardelia

[rare zodiac]

why ake tho? when fluorite exist?

[woeful plume]

i like doing damage

[frozen tide]

Yeah i meant you run tide 3 piece with the chest and run a kit or glove with ult gen

[dry kindle]

[woeful plume]

couldnt find a better glove lemme check the kits

ohhh

security armband

wait a second... these are the same stats

yeah no its cooked

[frozen tide]

They made rites ult breakpoints so awkward

Mustve been on purpose esp since she can't get ult any other source than her own skills

I mean you can just not cast battle skill pre fight

Waste a bit of sp but hit the breakpoint for tide chest

[woeful plume]

no like the point is i'd understand if the unit was like a banner unit

so it would make ppl solve it by money

no whale in world is tryna go p4 lr off banner

[frozen tide]

Since 3 stack without pre cast is 117 so 2 full cast (117+117)*16=271.4

[woeful plume]

i guess one other thing is that u just tank the 3+4, and sheet to compare total dmg between 3+4 dmg set vs 3+3 tide fall

[frozen tide]

Its 234 with pre cast

[woeful plume]

but u cant sim that right cuz 3+4 takes longer

and like 3+3 is just weaving a fs while the 3+4 is ulting

[frozen tide]

With p4 you can always 3 3

204 ult req

117 per normal 3 stack

[fringe dirge]

I have discovered that debuffs will freeze timer during ult animations, but combo skill cooldowns will continue in the background

This is useful for really short duration debuffs that you want to hit with a combo skill but you can't because the cooldown is too long

You can use an ult to buy time for your cooldown to come back

I made a 9 second debuff timer last 12 seconds, allowing me to use a 9 second combo skill twice

[rare zodiac]

@woeful plume question, if i make LR can ult every 2 combo skill with just replacing Ake by Fluo would you do it? and you get to consume 4 stack instead of 3 stack infliction for LR combo skill

[brave arrow]

From what i understand you need to spend SP to activated gilberta BP weapon skill right?

[frozen tide]

@woeful plume to clarify i said rite cant even 3 4 without tide but i was talking out of my ass(out of memory) she always gets 3 4 even with pre cast

[woeful plume]

no all good i just checked that out just now

[frozen tide]

And gets 3 3 without considering pre cast with tide p0

[fringe dirge]

I've played LR with Fluorite, it's not good for sustained fights

But really good in short fights

[woeful plume]

the problem is that, its a matter of either sacrifing akekuri or your armor

ake/perlica whatever i just dont have perlica built

[fringe dirge]

Woah what is that

[rare zodiac]

sorry the first part is cut out

[woeful plume]

was gonna ask if we dont xaihi skill at the start

okay i understand

[fringe dirge]

I've just been doing my rotations in a spreadsheet 😭

[outer ermine]

more flourites

[fringe dirge]

What tool is that

[frozen tide]

You should cause no other character skill wherher it be bs or cs contributes to rite ult

[woeful plume]

i think i prefer akekuri just cuz of ease of play

and i just tank the tide fall armor

[frozen tide]

Perlica supremacy

[woeful plume]

im not the best at the game, i feel like i will just whiff the 3+4 rotation sometimes

[frozen tide]

Also I'm speaking purely out of experience

With perlica i def don't think you can use ard bs every cs for corrosion on top of susc due to sp

[rare zodiac]

Fluo just combo skill and ult 1 time per rot tho 😭 it's that difficult

[frozen tide]

I have a feeling even ard bs every <25 would be tight af

[woeful plume]

i wish we had like a dummy to test

[lusty kernel]

Bruh i have all 5star at max pot and chen at t2 lol

So Unlucky

[frozen tide]

Closest thing is rhod

[lusty kernel]

The 5 star i often use

[fringe dirge]

Rhodagn closest thing to a training dummy

[woeful plume]

lemme get a level 1 wep

[fringe dirge]

I have spent hours fighting this guy

[frozen tide]

That's the spirit

[rare zodiac]

do it, join the theorycrafting gang, we lack people

i actually join official Endfield discord just to theorycrafting

[fringe tree]

Hi guys wanna ask about gilberta story that released yesterday, i still don't get it what it's about. Is it all just talk about the memory loss problem or is there any other talks? For example like on laevatein story, we got confirmed she somehow connected to surtr

[woeful plume]

oh lord, i wish i didnt

bigger fishes to catch bruh 😭

[fringe dirge]

Idk if I'm the only one who's playing Da Pan shatter, but I found a rotation with Alesh that allows him to sustain an 8 battle skill + 2 combo skill rotation for Da Pan

[woeful plume]

how much ult charge do these need

[fringe dirge]

I don't even have any masteries on Alesh yet, but getting some skills to level 7 made a difference

[woeful plume]

wait i could just, press xaihi skill

nvm it doesnt give energy instantly