theorycrafting

[weak meteor]

i meant more like a specific effect that no other operatosr have access to

[twilit quail]

we have fuck all chars in general lol

[tight haven]

yeah the roster is very small

[normal tangle]

fangyi will need mi fu but mi fu will be 5*

trust

[wise gate]

guys why are there so few characters in the game it shoulda launched with 500

[dry kindle]

I'm also fucked if avy is sub dps anyway

No jet

[weak meteor]

kinda hard to explain the genshins mistake since i have nt touched it for so long

[tranquil burrow]

Mi Fu deserves Tangtang core

[normal tangle]

at this point i'm just saying random shit until i strike gold and get banned for leaks or something

[wise gate]

I understand

[dry kindle]

Enion do my ato minigame

[tranquil burrow]

Also I have a feeling all 4 chars are six stars

[normal tangle]

then i know at least one thing i said was correct at some point

[tight haven]

i think genshins original sin was leaning into element shilling

[weak meteor]

just spam the red option to 90% adnd leave convo

[wise gate]

its like how gilb can be swapped with antal if you don't have her, the genshin design would be you have to use a different team comp if you don't have her

[tight haven]

that is so fucking boring of a way to design game content

[dry kindle]

Stop giving me fucking 240 credit people

[weak meteor]

tell them to go away

its that easy

[tight haven]

yeah just skip them if theyre brokies

[wise gate]

I feel like its fine having an element system aslong as you don't force people to swap off

[tight haven]

LOL

[dry kindle]

I just press green twice

But yeah

[weak meteor]

is that the clair

[dry kindle]

[tight haven]

yeah i think endfields current element system is neat

[tranquil burrow]

Gimme those creds I need to buy 1/100th of weapon banner pulls

[tight haven]

its doing pretty fun stuff

[wise gate]

like "YEAH YOU COUULD" instead of "nah he has 100% dr if you arent using the shidfard element"

[tight haven]

i think it would suck if you were forced to do mono elem

[proud vector]

It is kinda cool that elements work with themselves but also with each other

[wise gate]

as somebody whos played multiple gacha with elemental chars

some of them do well and some do shit

[proud vector]

We don’t have a true reactions team yet but one day

[tight haven]

my mind always goes back to duet night abyss where on-elem deals 8x the damage of off-elem

at all times

before even factoring in stage conditions

[tranquil burrow]

Isn’t it same as Genshin and all the others. We have roles and elements, and elements interact to form various reactions.

[weak meteor]

i dotn think true damage is gonna be a reaction

i think itoll just be a kit thing like kalt

[proud vector]

Monoelement is a lot worse in Genshin, or at least doesn’t have nearly as much support

[wise gate]

the worst case i've seen for it was nikke where some bosses literally are unkillable without X element on your team for no reason at all

[weak meteor]

physical in genshin is a death sentence

[tight haven]

the conceit of my argument is that content both from the player and system sides are much less frustrating

[twilit quail]

the evil aether element lurking in the background:

[tight haven]

since it isnt screaming in both your ears to play mono elem

[tranquil burrow]

Mixing elements is better imo

[dry kindle]

What even does aether damage apart from umbral poison gas

[proud vector]

And we do have that here as well
Just not as well explored haha

[heavy fossil]

im hoping that at the very least if fangyi needs mifu that mifu doesn't need fangyi

[wise gate]

the traps placed on the floor by triaggelos in phase 2

[dry kindle]

Skill issued

[tight haven]

triaggelos attacks

[frozen tide]

Is aether dmg percentage or sum

[dry kindle]

Its just another damage type

[twilit quail]

pale dmg

[proud vector]

No it’s a standalone element like physical

[tight haven]

i think for all intents its true damage?

yeah

[twilit quail]

[tight haven]

its pale damage

LOL

[dry kindle]

Explode

[tight haven]

you cant resist it

[twilit quail]

YET

[wise gate]

"12 dmg per eon" bro triag atp dont even attack just give up, why you hitting me with 12 damage

[proud vector]

activating all the sleeper agents I see?

[frozen tide]

I love iustitia

[tranquil burrow]

They will never introduce pale dmg, that just makes a char immune to HP inflation lol

[frozen tide]

Fav weap in game

Underrated

[proud vector]

but honestly?

[dry kindle]

I should scare everyone off by posting a singular babel passive list

[proud vector]

One day we may have aether character

[tranquil burrow]

Or maybe they get creative with enemy design to bork those characters anyways like ZZZ did with Miyabi

[tight haven]

if we ever get to use aether damage its probably going to be on like

[proud vector]

Like the baddies can obviously control it so

[wise gate]

nah deadass true damage is fucked up for some games

[tight haven]

something akin to mon3tr

temporary install

[proud vector]

I would think since it’s not part of elemental reactions it would behave like physical vulns

[frozen tide]

M3 looks so much more round and friendly in endfield

[tight haven]

m3 looks neat

[weak meteor]

round

[tranquil burrow]

I got psycho lunatic vibes from her what

[outer ermine]

m3at

[wise gate]

guys would you rather have blue armor or red armor

[tranquil burrow]

Like she commits genocide with a smile on her face kind of vibes

[tight haven]

shes apparently an elite assassin or some shit

[frozen tide]

She looks like a teddybear

[tight haven]

so who knows

[weak meteor]

not with that hairline

[wise gate]

ngl some people say they hate the gear and shit but I honestly like how it adds build variety

[tranquil burrow]

But I also get “she’s doing something we won’t like but she thinks it’s for our own good” vibes from Perlica so Idk

[woeful plume]

https://youtu.be/G24cThcj94E?si=ozQiOgpaSjaisQIQ

physical is the best team because

u get to eat 3 stews

[wise gate]

what

[tranquil burrow]

4x the investment

[woeful plume]

i cracked the code

[wise gate]

what type of stew

you're telling me you DONT consume varied drugs instead of stew

[weak meteor]

stew like replace the w with n and its me

[wise gate]

wtf is wrong with you

[weak meteor]

im going home

[twilit quail]

I can use 12 stew meetings per run

[wise gate]

don't dude

[twilit quail]

instead of only 8

the advancement of science

[wise gate]

you're like my favourite skeleton gun

[weak meteor]

yes made out of paper and nails

[wise gate]

btw this is a photo of @weak meteor irl

leaked

face reveal

[weak meteor]

thats me except im not that colour

[tranquil burrow]

The recoil on this thing

Idk I only know guns kill people

[weak meteor]

guns dont kil people

[wise gate]

bro the recoil doesnt matter just take like 30 different types of opium before shooting anything

its a ww2 gun

nothing made in ww2 was supposed to be good it was how cheap can I kill the most people

LMFAO

we had mfs boiling the people in tanks just for the sake of it was easier than piercing the armor of the tank

[outer ermine]

peak tc

[weak meteor]

We?

You and who

[wise gate]

wait are you not from the warcrime country

[weak meteor]

There's a few of those

[wise gate]

canada.

[weak meteor]

I live in Britain

[wise gate]

oh

[dry kindle]

Fuck off

[weak meteor]

So yeah that is literally me you just leaked my face

Thanks

[wise gate]

how many times have you had to up the zk on a rapscallion?

[weak meteor]

I don't know what spell you just casted what is a rapscallion

[wise gate]

a rascal

a miscreant

do you not know what a zk is

[weak meteor]

I wasnt

Born in Britain

[wise gate]

its those shitty machetes you can easily purchase illegally in like every country because they're on amazon

[weak meteor]

I didn't even know that

[wise gate]

a lot of eu countries have a length limit on bladed weapons

[weak meteor]

But I do know that you can buy feastabkes on amazon

[wise gate]

zk stands for zombie killer

its a stupidly designed machete

[weak meteor]

A

[weak meteor]

Actually I've heard of it before

[wise gate]

people in the uk carry them because they look scary and big and they can't buy a gun

[swift tundra]

this thing makes all trimmed medals free.

[wise gate]

its like prime uk criminal weapon

[weak meteor]

I don't think I've ever encountered an armed person

[wise gate]

stew meeting fan vs kunst tube enjoyer

[frozen tide]

The rendering for foods is weirdly good

[weak meteor]

Food buff is cheating

[twilit quail]

i have my whole life ahead of me-no you fucking dont. stew meeting is coming for you

[swift tundra]

as much cheating as someone slapping you with their fat wallet.

[tranquil burrow]

All items have excellent art

[outer ermine]

lr chillin, just jakub

[tranquil burrow]

Even the 3D models

[weak meteor]

I took a bite out of my monitor after I saw that burger

[twilit quail]

suspiciously bean-shaped vegetable consumable

[weak meteor]

Wallet is fair play because its skill

[swift tundra]

true. The superior play.

[outer ermine]

gapped in rl

[weak meteor]

It takes skill to make money

[wise gate]

any valley pie enjoyers in this chat?

[twilit quail]

dude the one art intern responsible for rendering all the gimmick sanity food items in AK must have been exhiliarated when they brought them on for endfield

[swift tundra]

imagine no lifing in a gacha game and getting gapped by the average folk employed in their 9-5.

[weak meteor]

I only inhale puffed jinchao powder when I'm feeling down

Feeling as in my hp bar

[wise gate]

unironically the sole reason I like gacha with pvp is fucking over p2w mfs

[outer ermine]

imagine farm in base like in ra

or perm foods

[dire nymph]

imagine no lifeng

[outer ermine]

omg

the dream

[wise gate]

yes I will theorycraft the most broken f2p build and nolife because I like beating wallet spammers

yes I have a job

no I will not spend money on my gacha

[weak meteor]

That's gonna last 2 months

[wise gate]

unfortunately not

[weak meteor]

Until that one character comes out

[bitter cobalt]

does anyone know how much % electrification boosts arts dmg

[wise gate]

you underestimate my sheer willpower

[swift tundra]

that's the wrong way of looking at it. What they are buying isn't necessarily p2w, but "time".

[weak meteor]

12 stage 1

[wise gate]

true but I can play a game while working

[weak meteor]

You can check those numbers on prydwen as much as I hate to say it

[bitter cobalt]

thx

[wise gate]

gacha tier list:

[bitter cobalt]

i assume perlica applies stage 1?

[weak meteor]

All forced reactions are stage 1

[wise gate]

guys should I utilize valley pie or nah

[weak meteor]

The jinchao powder heals more I think and you can mass produce it pretty quick

[outer ermine]

meat for a healing item

[weak meteor]

It's just a lot of manual work

[wise gate]

havent gotten to that point

[weak meteor]

The puffed powder I mean I forgot floeer name but it's pink

Not at wuling?

[wise gate]

challenge run account got me fucked up

[weak meteor]

A

[wise gate]

firebuckle powder

[wise gate]

nah i've been doing triaggelos for like 9 days

[weak meteor]

That as well

[weak meteor]

o

[wise gate]

fym the pink powder is firebuckle powder

[weak meteor]

I meant the green one

[wise gate]

oh

citromix

[weak meteor]

No its like very green

[outer ermine]

jincao

fluffed

[weak meteor]

Yea

That one

[wise gate]

lowkey

arclight is so amazing and pretty

she totally did not just bribe me by giving me kunst tubes

as a daily gift

[peak void]

should i use Eternal Xiranite or Swordmancer on Lifeng? leaning towards the former cus there's no one holding it in my team

[wise gate]

I swear my love for arclight is genuine

[mystic halo]

rare yazhen powder is the way to go

[weak meteor]

Swordmancer I think

[wise gate]

anyways guys see you later gator

[peak void]

really? but 16% on everyone else...

[wise gate]

i've gotta close this tab for more ram while I fight triaggelos

[mystic halo]

on lifeng it's situational

basically xiranite is shit after nerfs

[peak void]

ouch

[mystic halo]

so the set effect is actually whatever

the bigger concern is his ult cycling

[peak void]

i do like his ult

it groups

really neat

[mystic halo]

his ult cost is also 90 so he has same breakpoint as pog

except his ult applies stacks so it's more important to hit the breakpoint

anyway the answer is to get his ult cost reduction pot

[peak void]

that would be

152.6 right

[mystic halo]

so you can run swordmancer and still charge

yes 52.6

so 3x xiranite is pretty good

[peak void]

oh ffs youre telling me to get pot4 lifeng 😭

[peak void]

u gon kill me

[mystic halo]

him being able to activate it is just the cherry on top

[peak void]

Oh i see

so xiranite is more like redeemer seal slop

[mystic halo]

just use 3x xiranite when you need to for bosses n whatever

[peak void]

but happens to have a set

[mystic halo]

in spirit yes

[peak void]

i think

ill just have him on xiranite forever

simply cus i love the ult

[mystic halo]

I mean it works pretty well

and his uptime is pretty good

nothing wrong with it

[peak void]

thanks a lot

[mystic halo]

and his damage doesnt leap off a cliff like other cd set users

[peak void]

now to somehow get enough materials to e3 him

[mystic halo]

thanks to the talent

[dry kindle]

Have fun

[lusty kernel]

Whats the downside of replacing chen with ember

[dry kindle]

We love having no doritos

[peak void]

he is stuck on fkn

40/60 😭

[lusty kernel]

Im currently running endmin pog chen lifeng

[fast hinge]

u lose out on peak

chen is peak <3

[mystic halo]

physical gearing is super evil currently

[dire nymph]

what chest and hands should i try on double slab lifeng

[peak void]

slab 😢

[mystic halo]

are you actually going to make the set lmao

[weak meteor]

Ember vulnerable stack application compared to chen is bad

[peak void]

lifeng gotta be the worst slab user ever, waste of talent

[dire nymph]

i got bored and artificed slabs

[mystic halo]

I feel like it's a p3+ thing

[static pewter]

Exemplar or ancient in da pan

[dire nymph]

ill get that p3 on gilberta banner trust

[dry kindle]

I hope tangtang makes everything even more aids

[mystic halo]

exemplar is better but not by that much without dupes

[static pewter]

So ancient is better at p5?

[dire nymph]

after that ill put it on laev 😃

my first bait please be nice

[mystic halo]

exemplar p0 is better than p5 canal

but not by that much

[static pewter]

Alr I see

Thanks

[mystic halo]

canal just loses on base atk

which sucks but it is what it is

[woeful plume]

does corrode duration of ardelia combo skill scale with levels

[sick nexus]

Can I talk about theoretical units

My theory is Rossi since she is the sister of wulfengard might have synergy with each other

[weak meteor]

The duration is always gonna be what it says on the skill

If it doesn't say then it's just default duration

[sly nymph]

exemplar or sundered on ember

[mystic halo]

what a painful question

[weak meteor]

Probably exemplar

Unless you control ember for sundered stagger

[mystic halo]

the stagger might be the only thing ember can do

to cosplay as a better unit

[weak meteor]

That's not very nice

What if ember was right here

[woeful plume]

sundered prince da pan

[sick nexus]

I have a question what is the consensus on xaihi

[mystic halo]

xaihi is elohelled

[weak meteor]

Xaihi is too blue

[woeful plume]

i hate her

[weak meteor]

That's not very nice

[sick nexus]

For me xaihi is a bit too clunky by needing two final hits

[weak meteor]

What if xaihi was right here

[mystic halo]

the only support that survived the great obt purge

she is like

equivalent to 3 antals

in terms of actual buffing ability

[sick nexus]

I think they let her have it due to it only buffing 1 element

[mystic halo]

but it's not only 1 elem

[sick nexus]

Wait what

[woeful plume]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-reading-good-boy-windows-microsoft-gif-11209458

[valid zealot]

eyy Marble trimmed done.

[outer ermine]

[sick nexus]

Omg I didn't realize this. Xaihe is just a Yvonne and last rite support

That explains why her healing is garbage

[woeful plume]

the combo skill passive only gives cryo dmg

but like

lol

7%

for 5 seconds XD

if u cough at screen twice u will cover the dmg

[quaint zealot]

is it me or gilberta just doesnt works with either last rite or laeve she just keep remove all their needed arts infliction stacks for some reason

[mystic halo]

thanks to stanza basically any arts unit user is usable in a lot of places

and if we get into speedrunning ahahaha

[sick nexus]

That is an actual problem sometimes

So I think this is why she is replaced by ardelia in those teams

[mystic halo]

lae + gilb single target is good but you need wulfgard p5 and a brain

gilb + last rite is open world mob killing only

[quaint zealot]

so she indeed a nothing burger im tunned for an aoe content shilled

[manic blade]

Pyro xaihi please save me

[cobalt cypress]

ngl
Its ironic how yvonne is just
Worse than last rite

what could save our precious horned girl...

[woeful plume]

dont get the irony

but yeah it is what it is

[wise gate]

stoney

[quaint zealot]

what is her problem

[mystic halo]

why does yvonne not simply gain ultimate energy? is she stupid?

[wise gate]

500 stew meetings

[quaint zealot]

doesnt she still have decent output outside of ult or im just gaslighted by those showcases

[mystic halo]

1 rotation character

[wise gate]

she's decent

from what i've heard she is not good or worth building tho

pot 5 would suck to get

[woeful plume]

i mean u will trim

[mystic halo]

in AoE it's worse than team with no 6*

[woeful plume]

you might lose few of your hair on marble tho

[mystic halo]

in ST it's worse than last rite

[woeful plume]

and the moment a content that requires you to face more than a singular enemy drops

its over for you

[mystic halo]

it's not unplayable or anything it just doesnt really have a reason to exist

also if you dont get ult energy to start

she crumbles into dust

[wise gate]

speaking of

we need a boss like the terraria twins

like 2 bosses at once

[lime bear]

is it that hard? I do have P5 Wulf

[wise gate]

would be sick trying to dodge it

[woeful plume]

i mean umbral last stage is basically twins

[mystic halo]

ok so

[wise gate]

havent got there so I wouldnt know

[mystic halo]

you want clannibal

and artificed charge on him

[woeful plume]

its not out yet but it was like that in beta

[mystic halo]

[cobalt cypress]

yvonne either gets a better tailored support than gilberta
Or she is finished wallahi

[mystic halo]

and last slot akekuri with charge set as well probably

and you kind of just have to use abilities freeform

[lime bear]

why can you elaborate

[atomic kraken]

do you guys think it is worth to pull gilberta?

[woeful plume]

if the tooltip doesnt say "If your name is yvonne your ult gain charge goes up by 300%"

[lime bear]

I'm using him as ult bot rn

[mystic halo]

we need to fill in enemy arts dmg taken zone somehow

[woeful plume]

last rite can just use the same support and outclass her

[mystic halo]

and since we're not using sp on gilb

[woeful plume]

free unit btw

[mystic halo]

we actually get to activate clannibal sometimes

[cobalt cypress]

nah-nah, if something is related to attack frequency
Yvonne could get it

like
"gives x ult charge with each instance of damage"

[mystic halo]

and removing the burn opens up more timelines for wulfgard

[swift tundra]

lowkey they just need to allow AI to perform her ult while she is off-field and she might be S tier. Kek.

[mystic halo]

with combo reset and stuff

[wise gate]

he's good with clannibal im p sure I cant remember because I deleted my clannibal

[sick nexus]

I have a question Is it weird for me to use last rite and xaihi skill before battle for that sweet sweet sp

[quaint zealot]

so is she at least top 2 at ST

[manic blade]

Imo def low priority unless you RLLY need help with multi target like trying to force yvonne…

[mystic halo]

then the rest is routing around the gilb nature stack

from ult

sometimes you even get to activate corrosion with it

and it's worth

[cobalt cypress]

idk i got yvonne on 50/50 loss
I will just build last rite rn and wait to see if yvonne ever gets better lmao

[lime bear]

uh can you tldr again what changed with Gilb in Laevatain regular is basically just feed heat stacks for Laevatain and don't ever use EBS Wulf cuz it'll consume the stacks

[mystic halo]

it's a bit jank and improvisation based

[lime bear]

so what changes with Gilb

😄

[wise gate]

I got yvonne and she's one of the 3 and I didnt plan on using a 6 star in the first place so idc I got atleast one of them

[manic blade]

I got p5 laev with zero gilb or yvons…

[sterile patrol]

wulf doesnt consume your stacks he consumes combustion

[mystic halo]

we dont have ard so we dont have easy activation timeline of 3 stacks into ard combo lae combo

[lime bear]

ok makes sense

[mystic halo]

this problem is usually solved with either wulfgard ult or raw lae bskill(which kinda sucks but sometimes we have to)

wulfgard ult is ideal

you get your 4th stack then just hold the enhanced skill for a bit

before her own combo is up again

[peak void]

then lae combo into wulf skill>

?

[lime bear]

true I sometimes overstacked with ard wulf cuz my wulf is using redeemer ult spam stuff

but it's not that bad

[mystic halo]

and then rest is literally just all improvisational depending on what boss is doing because you want to line up the following things

gilb sig buff

her ult suscept with lae enhanced bskill in ult

clannibal

akekuri timeline

[wise gate]

dang they disentigrated that one

[peak void]

opal would u happen to know er breakpoint for wulf and akekuri

[wise gate]

didnt even get to type my follow up message about it

[peak void]

wulf is 90 cost but his combo resets iirc

idk if that does anything

[mystic halo]

uhh they exist but the gains from not using full charge are so miniscule

in terms of damage and whatever

[peak void]

sry wym by full charge

like this?

[pure haven]

hey gng just curious, there isnt any endgame currently right? I am clueless what i should spend on my sanity so I might just build a 2nd Physical team with Pog and Yifeng (1st team is lae lv80-90 already).

I know theres artificing and other RNG bs, but I rather build another team for the funzies

[mystic halo]

and because of downtime/other stuff that might go wrong in any given encounter it kind of isnt even worth using the set with the "correct" breakpoint

yes full ult gain

[peak void]

ok got it

i just wanna make clannibal work on him while in a laeva team

but idk how to go abt it so hes just using OBJ for now

[wise gate]

I mean spend ur sanity on tcreds

it's the only thing that will atleast be used forever

[weak meteor]

OR

Essence gambling

[mystic halo]

in current standard with ard you will rarely get to activate clan

[wise gate]

does anybody know the best character for mining?

[weak meteor]

For the funsies

[valid zealot]

bomb

[peak void]

essences (until u max ur current weapons), tcreds

[wise gate]

aside from that

bombs arent viable due to the cost

[weak meteor]

Normally 2 plunges and your other ops will finish it off

[valid zealot]

What cost.

[pure haven]

yea guess ill go for essences kek

[quaint zealot]

so are there any team where gilb BiS rn the fact that i havent seen anyone using her in phys despite her kit having lifted randomly

[pure haven]

thanks

[valid zealot]

i have enough to bring the whole Talos down with me.

[wise gate]

should rephrase my question

If you were mining with only 1 character in your party and you have no bombs because you can't make any who would be the fastest at mining

[ashen scroll]

Guys is it possible to get trimmed medal if you limit yourself to level 69 or the dps had to be lvl 90?

[wise gate]

I know xaihi is quite fast

[weak meteor]

1 character

[lime bear]

I mean basically since we can't have easy Laevatain combo with Ard combo from FS, we need to either rely on Laeva BS or use Wulf as ult spam anyway right? need Ake too for constant Heat stacks ig into Wulf combo

I don't see any changes from my current rot besides now we use Gilb ult for susc instead of Ard combo + EBS for susc, tho you really need high ult gain for Wulf ig for this one for the 4th MF stack

[weak meteor]

All the operators left you don't pay them enough

Does claymores have additional mine damage?

[wise gate]

nah I just don't use em

[weak meteor]

If so then probably them

[wise gate]

claymores?

[peak void]

yeah but its still there when u do laeva enhanced skill > combo > wulfgard enhanced skill

[weak meteor]

Great sword characters

[wise gate]

oh no they dont from what i've seen

[valid zealot]

all of them need 1 full seq.

[wise gate]

they have the widest sweep tho

[quaint zealot]

can i ask what is the ard combo

[valid zealot]

So whoever do that quickest ig.

[weak meteor]

Then I guess anyone with a fast batk sequence

[lime bear]

you final strike which triggers Ard combo then it applies corrosion and you can use Ard BS for susc

[wise gate]

wym

wait is this shit based on actual dmg

fluorite mines faster than antal despite having a slower battack and it takes her less hits

my fluorite IS more built so it's probably scaling off damage or maybe guns are faster idfk

[quaint zealot]

oh nvm didnt know that ard is ardelia here

[frozen tide]

Can the characters canonically gain ultimate energy if they wish to

[tender zephyr]

last rite or avy chat

they both ST right

[frozen tide]

Rite is better for single target

Avy comp prob fairs just a bit better for multitarget

Because rite needs to fulfill conditions on a target and combo skill to do big dmg

Avy can just use her battle skill

And her teammates do more dmg and aoe generally too

Even if you wanted mediocre dmg on rite against weak mobs

You need battle skill to proc

Which takes a whole attack cycle

Tho to be clear neither are great at multi target

Just that rite comp is notably worse

[rich linden]

Chat is akekuri the best sp generator in the game or what 🔥

[frozen tide]

There's not that many good sp generators

So quite possibly

Id argue for pog tho

[rich linden]

Yea theres 3 i think, w arclight pog and ake being the best

[rich linden]

How much does he gen usually?

[frozen tide]

[mystic halo]

he gets 168 per cycle

[frozen tide]

Ty

I was wondering if im fr gonna calculate allat for a char and comp I don't play

[rich linden]

Waww

Thats actually higher than i thought

[mystic halo]

he has the advantage of being in a team where he can gear to get it very consistently

akekuri is weird because of stagger

[frozen tide]

Pogbreachamp

[peak void]

do i need food buffs or smth to get trimmed boss medals

[mystic halo]

and arclight has gimped resource gain built in

[cinder igloo]

alright so ive stress tested the worksheet to see how it handles Essences matching and i can say its a huge success

[unreal light]

hey! Is there some website to calculate the upgrade costs for all the characters I need?

[mystic halo]

no but it helps

[rich linden]

Yea see I was thinking shes best with an ult gain set and not depend on her combo skill

[frozen tide]

It makes life a lot easier

[mystic halo]

akekuri ult gain set is correct yes

[frozen tide]

But is optional

[mystic halo]

you dont even lose much int

[rich linden]

Aye nice

Yea you actually can build a lotta int

[frozen tide]

What about frontiers opal

[mystic halo]

it sucks

[cinder igloo]

still need to do some fine tunning and even make it easier to read

[mystic halo]

set effect is nerfed

and not having ult gen is awful

[lime bear]

wait wtf has iana sheet changed? istg it was frontiers before

[frozen tide]

Hmm ic

[lime bear]

ult gain set makes so much more sense tho

[boreal coral]

Is ult set confirmed bis for lae or are we still theory-crafting her gear? So much misinfo going around 😭

[mystic halo]

it gets updated yeah

[peak void]

sooo what would be the best food for laevatain

[mystic halo]

just get her ginseng stew

jakub is ok

[lime bear]

why was frontiers used again before

Ginseng scales a lot more

[peak void]

this filter fucking sucks

[frozen tide]

@manic blade

[peak void]

LET ME FILTER BY WHAT IT DOES

[mystic halo]

sub attribute and because, I assume, people were still adjusting to obt changes

[lime bear]

just change to desc and scroll to Ginseng tbh

[frozen tide]

Best buff food is ginseng meat stew best heal food is yahzen spray l

[manic blade]

What frontiers?

[frozen tide]

Yeah

[manic blade]

I just have ult set

[mystic halo]

"oh akekuri ult is nerfed surely frontier has more use cases now" NOPE

[manic blade]

That was my initial thought…

[frozen tide]

How much fucking sp did she originally give

[peak void]

i dont think i have the recipe for ginseng yet...

[frozen tide]

She gives 80 rn

[rich linden]

Nah frontiers is a fake set for akekuki

[lime bear]

I see

[peak void]

oh god im cooked, gotta get farming 🧑‍🌾

[mystic halo]

get farming lmao

[lime bear]

buy the 5 seeds

[rich linden]

Just stack as much ult gen and int, she doesnt really have a good 3set

[mystic halo]

300

[lime bear]

max is 20 plots anyway

[peak void]

I have a few ginseng, can just run them through the grinder

[lime bear]

limited to 60 ginseng/12 hours smh

[mystic halo]

not a typo

[peak void]

THREE HUNDRED?

[rich linden]

They are usually reserving that for a 6*

[lime bear]

if no fertilizer

[frozen tide]

Ur capping me

Ion believe u

[peak void]

isnt that like the entire fucking bar

[mystic halo]

yeah she got shot in the head

[manic blade]

Check out all these 5 star relic sets that don’t even get used bc spamming ultimates on 3 of 4 characters is better!

[mystic halo]

and is still pretty good

[lime bear]

even if shes nerfed she still goat

[mystic halo]

yes!

[peak void]

Arknights and 4-star vanguards 🚬

[frozen tide]

So smth like rite xaihi estella ake wouldve been viable

[bronze plume]

she was insanely stupidily overpowered in cbt2

[frozen tide]

And get infinite cryo

[timid echo]

how does p5 fortmaker compare to p0 thermite on p0 pog?

[bronze plume]

thats why they nerfed her

she was dumb af

[mystic halo]

anyway pog is the most cleanly functioning vanguard currently cause he can very easily cycle ult

[lime bear]

tbh if major part of their kit is ult, ult gain is the best clearly

[bronze plume]

same with arclight from cbt1 to cbt2

[rich linden]

Whats this do :3

[mystic halo]

arclight is a weirdo, akekuri is also a little jank

alesh is gambling simulator

[lime bear]

how much does Gilb need her sig

[manic blade]

Laevatain /:

[peak void]

Gamblign in gambling game :noway:

[mystic halo]

gilb BP is kind of uniquely bad

for one big reason

the other weapons both are just worse versions of sig, the character does the same things

gilb BP weapon needs SP to activate its buff

[manic blade]

Qq be like

[mystic halo]

sig doesnt

[lime bear]

my bp wep gonna be useless then cuz I pulled for Laeva sig and dont plan on pulling Yvonne lmfao

surely future character can use one of these

:clueless:

[manic blade]

https://tenor.com/view/qingque-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-hsr-gif-27540949

[bronze plume]

youd hope so

[mystic halo]

sig buff is more potent and also activates on combo, giving it really good uptime

[cinder igloo]

sorts out all you 5 star essences that you own, to find a matching stat out of 62 weapons, BestEssenceID shows Gray for 1 stat Match, Yellow for 2 Stat Match and Green for a perfect fit, so you can equip it to the weapon and then use it to be etched to the max

[mystic halo]

it's good but whether or not you want to go for it is

well, up to you

on how much you believe in her future prospects

a higher level of gambling

[frozen tide]

How does p3 bp weap fare against p0 sig

And p5 too since you can get it next bp

[lime bear]

hows Stanza compared to sig then

[mystic halo]

this is the barrier that cannot be crossed

the mechanics of the BP weapon arent changed by dupes

stanza's pretty good yeah

[cinder igloo]

for example, this Essence is plugged in here with its +1 counterpart registered as Boost

[mystic halo]

give her ult regen

[frozen tide]

Stanza my beloved

22.4 % atk to everyone

[cinder igloo]

and then looking at the weapon category we see it matches to this Polearm as a perfect fit

[mystic halo]

but yeah whether or not you get her sig just comes down to how much faith you have in her

[cinder igloo]

making it an easy search through of all of you aquired essences and to start locking it down and etching for min/maxing a weapon

[peak void]

only the first 2 are plantable?

[manic blade]

Do trim and umbral timers pause during ult animations

[bronze plume]

min maxing a 4 star is a psychos dream

[frozen tide]

4 star only trim when

[mystic halo]

bamboo is mob drop

[frozen tide]

4 star chars 4 star weaps 4 star gear

Purple food

[peak void]

man it looks like smth i can plant

[lime bear]

the third one is mob drop loot

[manic blade]

Catcher solo trim fraudoghan

[icy ginkgo]

?

[frozen tide]

Why did she think rhod can do smth to endmin

Slow ass chud

[icy ginkgo]

rhodagn the hardest boss to trim with electric team

[mystic halo]

I think if catcher goes to lv90

rhodan literally isnt capable of killing catcher

even if he doesnt dodge ever

and takes every hit to the face

[icy ginkgo]

but can catcher kill rhodagn

[manic blade]

The fraud has 3 confirmed kills since release

We are sending mail out to those 3 players with free ember copies

[frozen tide]

Give them every p5 6 star they'll struggle

If they lost to rhod first encounter

[manic blade]

Anyone know…

[frozen tide]

Doesn't the world around you still move while you ult

Would be weird if timer stopped

[icy ginkgo]

lol did they reveal this data

[lime bear]

probably not

but idk

[bronze plume]

if someone knew you woulda got a awnser

[lime bear]

just kill it faster

use food

upgrade essence

artificing

[bronze plume]

or dont care cuz its just a medal

those are yo options

[lime bear]

I did perfect rotation on Laevatain and still no trim, once I artificed and got 8/8/4 it's piss easy even with imperfect rotation

illusion of skill

[green ibex]

whats a good purple gear for pogranichnik

quickly

[bronze plume]

whatever gives him his main stat

its not that hard to figure out

gear doesnt matter until gold

[green ibex]

im gonna tweak out

i needa get lavatain

i have a 100 pulls on her

i needa get her quickly

[urban anchor]

Ok question, have anyone try to do any numbers on Laevatain in a long fight between her charge rate set and other dps sets like normal hot work one or Lynx one ?

[green ibex]

chat whats the fastest way tk get oroberyl

[bronze plume]

playing the game

if you havent gotten 120 yet

you have lots to do just do stuff

[green ibex]

i needa one ten pull left

endfield u needa fix

yo gacha system

i need more basic pull tickets

[bronze plume]

theres nothing wrong with it lol

[peak void]

anyone got a good wuling farm setup? im so lost here i just want my ginseng

[urban anchor]

#aic-factory will be the place for that ^^

[peak void]

i mean i went there already 😭

[tranquil burrow]

Just plant ginseng seeds and sprinklers

It's not a factory, there's nothing to optimize

Cap of 20 plots and you've got more space than you can utilize

[regal fractal]

Huh

We have 0 sources of basic tickets

[bronze plume]

thats not the part they where talking about

[regal fractal]

Ah thought it was

[unreal light]

how worth is levelling up lifeng, is his damage on par with Endmin / Chen?

I keep him and pog underlevelled to put more resources into endmin and chen

his ulti benefits from his link, but Im unsure about his damage output

[noble tapir]

Can someone give me a breakdown of what skills to prioritize in pog/chen/endmin/lifeng team in terms of mastery levels?

[unreal light]

#theorycrafting message

[noble tapir]

Awesome, thank you

[fickle turret]

You can check out the pinned guide in team-guide. it has skill priorities. Pog for example benefits from m1 on bs and ult for more so regen. Lifeng increases phys sus I think as well.

[unreal light]

wrong person

[fickle turret]

lifeng dmg is not nothing, pog dmg is null when you build him on intensity and ult efficiency.

[unreal light]

yeah, I understand that it's not nothing, but if lifeng does 50-60% of what chen or endmin do, I'd rather put more resources into them

[tranquil burrow]

I made ONE mistake in triangle fight and that cost me 40 freaking seconds in phase 3. Missed a trim ;-;

[unreal light]

leaving Lifeng for last

[lime bear]

this is my fund, already spent like 50 pulls, got her on 2nd multi tho

enough to hard pity Fangyi

[fickle turret]

right, I think atm it’s enough to level main dps only

[lime bear]

I haven't bought all the charted with aic quota too

[tranquil burrow]

I'm going to max each new limited I get as they come, whether they're dps or support or whatever

[unreal light]

Idk if this is enough

[tranquil burrow]

Standards are destined to be ignored by me lel

[unreal light]

she's like 6k atk if her and sundering passives are stacked

[undone condor]

Whats the build for that

[fickle turret]

lol probably, but chen also can do heavy dmg. unlike the other two.

[undone condor]

Bonekrusha?

[unreal light]

swordmancer

[undone condor]

Oh wait is that with stacks?

[unreal light]

nope its raw

[undone condor]

Damn wtf

3500 atk with swordmancer

[undone condor]

Hmm ic

[unreal light]

stacked she goes into 6k

without any other buffs

[undone condor]

Oh that's where the difference is lmao

[bold rose]

Is it true that there was a tech where you open the LR rotation controlling Xaihi since she gets to FA faster than LR does and only swaps back to LR after the first FA into combo?

[compact bridge]

Where is her crown

[unreal light]

Ima broke ass endmin

[frozen tide]

Could still be a thing

None of lr skills actually require her being on field

[undone condor]

Also, what are you trying to do that this Chen isn't enough?

[unreal light]

moirai under 4

ain't got a rapid ascent

[icy ginkgo]

yvonne is so buns 💔

[unreal light]

So I thought if the nice blast from lifeng might help

or if I should invest more in chen and endmin

[undone condor]

Yeah me neither and I spent all my arsenal pulls on the Far expedition Issue lmao

[unreal light]

going into crowns and stuff

[undone condor]

It's a sad life

[unreal light]

so true

2 pog sigs 0 chen sigs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1117028482279551007/1427398172908589108/hrarn.gif

[frozen tide]

Can never seem to convince people who accidentally pulled her of this fact

[icy ginkgo]

the worst thing is i pulled last rite as well

so i have 2 ice dps

im trying to cope with this team

[unreal light]

tartaglia hu tao vibes

[frozen tide]

You are bound to lose 50 50 to dogshit in a gacha at some point

Just happens

[icy ginkgo]

pink e girl or blue e girl which way endmin

[heady shale]

I guess that channel will be my new daily driver huh.
Imma done with p much everything in the game now except Trimmed Boss Medals, so guess now its time to actually minmax
Nice to meet ya all

[unreal light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/movie-sci-fi-the-matrix-OvDTq5V3EepBS

[lime bear]

min max in this game just matter of time, youll get it eventually

[icy ginkgo]

super close to trimming the medals with avywenna

[lime bear]

im omw to 9/9/4 my Laevatain sig

[frozen tide]

Other than pots

Gimme my lr p3

[heady shale]

Yeah I figured there is still plenty of gearing room for me. Like idk, doing my Daily Gearing Artificing pushed my Endmin from 4000 -> 4100 alone.
I am currently on 90/80/80/80 80/80/80/80 Talents Maxed & Battle Skill Mastery Shatter Endmin/Ardelia/Chen/Akekuri. So playbook F2P basically.
I pulled Pog from New Horizons 40 Pulls yet at first wasn't sure how I felt over another character consuming Vulnerability Stacks to recover SP until I been told it's apparently so good one can alternative Crush/Breach and get away with a benefit over running Akekuri as SP Battery. Would be a shame if I bricked account already lol
On Basic HH Permits I pulled Last Rite on Soft Pity but the more I looked into her, the more i realized she is borderline unplayable without her Sig Wep. Like, unlike other character not even has valid sidegrades it seems. So I figured I will ignore Cryo for now. I kinda wanna build Lightning Team with Avywenna some time. I got the chars pulled but gotta maintain Stamina and resources, ya know.
So yeah my goal gonna be do get Trims eventually but I am glad I wasn't like, progression locked out of anything really. We will see how that looks Post-Honeymoon but so far everything feels "Very doable" which I am appreciating.

I think most room for improvement is that I haven't used any damage boosting foods for my runs which is why I got here...
Imma have to look into the damage formula to see how certain things play out & I wonder if Food Items do stack? I haven't tried out yet if the same/different effects can be stacked.
The confusion mostly stems from one Food buffing ATK% while the other buffs Damage Dealt% so obviously there is a Damage Formula and something must be going on inbetween.. :P

[unreal light]

Pog is not only recovering sp with his battle skill, he also applies +20% phys dmg taken to a target, for 30 secs

which is a lot for endmin and chen

[heady shale]

Yeah, Breach basically right?

or is there another 20%

[unreal light]

yup

[heady shale]

basically the idea is Pog helps setting up Burst DPS for Break?

I just eh, wasn't sure how the SP Recovery holds up cuz building 4 Stacks afterwards is smh

[unreal light]

first, for chen and endmin ulti
second, for crush

[heady shale]

[unreal light]

for crush, sorry

[unreal light]

you'd like lifeng for that

[heady shale]

My bad, wrong term here too.

Meant Staggered

[unreal light]

lifeng gives enemy 1 stack and phys dmg debuff with his bskill, and 2 stacks with ulti

[heady shale]

gotta look into how Lifeng applies Vuln Stacks nvm you were quicker

[unreal light]

he has to be first to apply the stack, for debuff to appear, if you don't have p1

[outer ermine]

[heady shale]

I skipped over "Knock Down" in the description, oops. I see whats going on

hmm

[unreal light]

so it's like you use breach with Pog, then BSkill lifeng, wait for it to apply (he has a delay, and ultimate cancels it, and loses your SP) Ulti Lifeng, and your enemy will be at 3 stacks already

[heady shale]

[sly nymph]

does aethertech even proc on endmin

[heady shale]

it seems to proc on Crush and Breach, yeah
Arts Intensity also or?

[outer ermine]

its not for general use, xaihi fs is fast but u wont have any sp to keep up after 1 cycle; but speedrun wise where we just need 4 stacks for a kill its ideal. u get to combo like a second earlier too cuz xaihi fs will finish b4 combo connects

its usable in tentacles too

[unreal light]

and then you'd want basic attacks, to proc Lifeng combo, into Endmin combo
to apply crystals, that increase phys dmg taken, for Chen's ulti and after it ends, for Endmin ulti

[heady shale]

I guess with Lifeng I got the 6* Selector laying around, hmm..

[unreal light]

chen does not consume crystals, thus free dmg buff

then go into 4 stacks and crush

and yeah, doing in in staggered mode, you're gaining 13% dmg increase

[bold rose]

no I mean just opening with Xaihi to get to the first combo
after you get there you swap back to LR and do normal LR business

[heady shale]

yeah it be stuff like that I gonna look up more.
Much of my time improvement of bosses could still come from just learning the fights better, timing ults etc. since my First Clear runs yesterday I may have been a little to careful with things like Ults lol

[unreal light]

yeah, some phases just cancel your entire dmg output, so you'll have to be careful, to not waste all ultis into them

[heady shale]

All 3 Bosses from what i gathered are sensible to the right timing. Much time loss there if Rhodagn blows up again, Triaggelos spawns minions again or if Aggelomoirai flies around again I wonder how much time I can cut off just there

[unreal light]

I'm doing a main dps chen, and her solo ulti after first combo skills is enough to deal as much damage to rhodagn to send him into 2nd phase within seconds

and the recharge is enough to repeat the ulti, once rhodagn is breached and all debuffs are set at the second phase

[outer ermine]

thats backwards why would u swap back in to someone w a long ass combo animation

ig if u need the ba dmg if low pot

[tranquil burrow]

It's the difference between trim vs non-trim for me

I only got trim on triangle and marble once I managed to skip a few of these nonsensical time wasters

Or imagine ulting and triangle just decides to fly

I can tell it has a certain pattern but I haven't done it enough times to know what it is

[undone condor]

Trying to beat triaggelos with solo chen was so annoying

Son of a bitch would just fly and I lose all my stacks

[heady shale]

yeah imma kinda tempted now to use 6* Selector on Lifeng and go ham.
But also rip on the investments that went into Akekuri and Ardelia lol

[unreal light]

no they're great whenever you'll decide to create a second team

[undone condor]

Or when you use a skill and Triag pulls a backdash on you

[unreal light]

it just that pog teams with lifeng extremely well

[tranquil burrow]

Phase 3 was even worse for me

Laev BS has a certain delay

and this mofo would ALWAYS dodge it

[outer ermine]

u just gotta count for dorito

[tranquil burrow]

Stagger gaming is so OP for these bosses

[remote elk]

does the sanity discount event coming up just lower sanity costs on doing that content? so im guessing i should use the sanity extractors and save up for that

[heady shale]

I was thinking of using Ardelia /w Last Rite when I theorycrafted Cryo Team earlier when I soft-pitied her, but the lack of Last Rite's Sig stays a dealbreaker to that idea and Cryo has a low priority for me now.
For Akekuri I am unsure when I find an opportunity to use her again. Perhaps when I bother building Fire in a far, distant future

[unreal light]

akekuri is a good teammate for LR and Ardelia

[heady shale]

oh? Typically one can get around SP needs for Cryo Infliction or? Looking at Fluorite and such.. Or maybe I overestimated that

[tranquil burrow]

They will most likely cap maximum number of attempts

Like 99.9999999999% chance they will

[unreal light]

Akekuri applies link, which increases next ulti dmg (LR goes wild), gives atk buff, and doesn't spend your valuable SP, which LR really wants
also some occasional SP generated here and there for each stagger your LR breaks

[heady shale]

hmm

I see

yeah plenty of work to do and so little stamina 😅 We at that point again do we
Speaking of, technically not sure if theorycrafting but help-channel was unresponsive: I seen Deep Dive Bosses + Advanced Protocol Space have some overlapping rewards. What is the general suggestion for using Sanity efficiently?

[outer ermine]

i havent farmed a single gold mat so i cant even answer that

boxes too good

[unreal light]

ugh, I can't say much about shared rewards, but I'd suggest to check your battle pass before going to farm, as your needed resources might be just behind a level or two, and farming them with your sanity, would hurt

and also check out the chances of increasing your essence level, if you're going to farm for them. It's a big scam and you gotta know when to stop, not to put all of your eggs in one basket

[fallen cedar]

I NEED someone to test out pulser set full art intensity pog and full ult gain efficiency pog and tell which one of them kills bosses and enemies faster

[outer ermine]

just search for links and vids here, theres a couple phy speedkills hidden

[heady shale]

Oh I haven't done Essence Farming at all yet

I figured that is like, the final-final Stamina Sink is it

[unreal light]

I'd say it's like 25% of your character damage, perchance

it's not calculated, just a feeling

[heady shale]

oh

[unreal light]

you'd want that perfect essence with all three stats aligned, atleast on your DPSes

[heady shale]

sounds about right

For Coolant Usage I guess one does wait for Stage 5->6 or 2->3 huh

[unreal light]

and if you have something else to farm for, you'd better stop once your main dps essence level is like +4 +4 +2, cause it the upgrade costs go wild

[unreal light]

spot on

I mean 10% to hit 3 -> 4 and 1->2 is wild already

it's like wasting 10 essences on average (240+ sanity)

[frozen tide]

How much sanity does it take on average to max out an essence

It feels like it would be in the thousands

[unreal light]

I did calculations only for 5 -> 6 and 2 -> 3 on the third stats

[ocean hawk]

dont ever use coolant for 2 to 3 for the skill stats, its not worth the gel

use it for 5 to 6

[unreal light]

it takes exactly 6 days to get from 5 to 6, spending all your sanity into essences and improve one stat using 450 gel
and 4 days to get from 2 to 3 level

[unreal light]

1200 sanity for one 5 - > 6 upgrade to be precise

if you don't get lucky

[chilly bolt]

how many intellect do i need for xaihi to reach max amp

[frozen tide]

[frozen tide]

you cant reach it as of now

physically impossible

[chilly bolt]

i did a quick math it's like 458 at skill lvl9

[frozen tide]

the amp limit is only for the int portion

not the total

[chilly bolt]

only the bonus int ?

[frozen tide]

and lvl 9-12 also increases limit

[chilly bolt]

damn

[oak quiver]

Insane 4 star essence

[frozen tide]

noice

[unreal light]

haha good one

[oak quiver]

Has anyone calculated the rates for essence upgrading, it feels like sub 1% at 7/9 and 8/9

[steel hedge]

whats the difference between purple and gold essence? is it the stat it ggives per level?

[frozen tide]

no

purple cant get upgraded

[bronze plume]

purple cant be upgraded

[frozen tide]

and has lower ceiling

[steel hedge]

ohhh

i see, ty guys

[frozen tide]

if your supp unit only cares abt weapon passive

and you get a x/x/3 purple

its poor mans gold

[oak quiver]

Thx! Dang expected value of 37 for the last upgrade is crazy

[green ibex]

how to get oroberyl fast

[oak quiver]

Fr, I got a gold with the perfect stats but u might not even upgrade it cause of my purple with 3 flow

[glad niche]

play the game, fast

[ocean hawk]

top up my fam

[green ibex]

wow these players sure are helpful

[oak quiver]

Lore skipping

[unreal light]

etchspace
all the factory tutorials have a skip button

[green ibex]

yeaaa ngl the story aint that peak🥱

[ocean hawk]

my answer is faster than doing the quest story with skipping no?

XD

[green ibex]

they dont got the aura and hype moments

[oak quiver]

I mean etchspace salvage has a decent amount

It’s the permanent event

[green ibex]

what is that

[frozen tide]

etchspace salvage if you havent done that

[kindred sorrel]

probably because this isnt #help

[oak quiver]

It pops up as a dijang quest once u progress enough

[green ibex]

oh yeahh

[frozen tide]

etchspace is so good

2000 oros and 10 pulls

[wise gate]

does anybody even think this is possible? I just estimated the time it'd take me to kill this guy and it's over 10 hours

[frozen tide]

aint nobody forcing u to do this brohamster

[rancid folio]

what does the next character do? and who does she work with?

[frozen tide]

we dont know

or you mean gilb

[wise gate]

what?

[unreal light]

omg

[rancid folio]

yeah gilb

[frozen tide]

im so used to ppl asking about zhuang or rossi

lmao

[unreal light]

with electro team and yvonna

[frozen tide]

gilb boosts everyones ult gain

she is a grouper

with nature infliction

her ult is massive arts amp for short time

[rancid folio]

oh she works with the rabbit 5 star?

[unreal light]

yes

[rancid folio]

who does gilb replace in electro

[unreal light]

prob levatain too

[unreal light]

antal afaik

[frozen tide]

its avy arc perlica gilb

[rancid folio]

why did i even level him up lmao

[unreal light]

you may use him in another team, like with laev

[kindred sorrel]

but in laeva team you can just replace him with akekuri

unless youre speed running stuff for some reason

[midnight stirrup]

Did we play the same story

[rancid folio]

i have like 30 pulls, idk if im gonna be able to reach pity? i should probably pull on rerun right

[frozen tide]

how would they know when they skipped

lmfao

[midnight stirrup]

TRUE

[ocean hawk]

maybe they use the skip button too much, so he missing out

[unreal light]

give the guy some love, he needs it

[midnight stirrup]

Bro acting like Arknights didnt have the most hype moments for a release patch story

[frozen tide]

hate that lizard

i want to play hot men and women

[rancid folio]

i skipped everything and the story was still long af lmao

[frozen tide]

not a lizard

[unreal light]

Sorry, I don't really know your account or your preferations, If you like her, there's zero reason not to pull for her. And more content comes, so you might get enough oroberill to pull for her

in time

[kindred sorrel]

do i start artificing slab or the hotwork kits now

[rancid folio]

but the thing is, if u get to pity 100 and next character appears, those 100 pulls are wasted right

[ocean hawk]

yes

[unreal light]

yes,

[bronze plume]

i mean how much pulls have you used on laevs banner

[ocean hawk]

no building pities in here

[rancid folio]

120

[ocean hawk]

then u already had lae then ?

[rancid folio]

yeah i have her

[green ibex]

im larp larp sahur

[midnight stirrup]

Its not rly wasted, you saved 20 pulls from the guarantee.

[bronze plume]

why we having tis convo then

[humble hinge]

Is there any good matches list for artificing?

[rancid folio]

gilb

[midnight stirrup]

Id rather take 20 pulls saved than having to go all the way to 120 for the guarantee.

[ocean hawk]

ehh depends, what if he win the 50/50 on the 119/120

[green ibex]

giys i need 10 pulls fast

for laevatain

[ocean hawk]

AHHH the free dosier ?

[bronze plume]

if you do like 100% of the game

you can get gib

[midnight stirrup]

You lost the 5050, and lost 20 pulls that couldve been put into the next banner.

[rancid folio]

nah i aint doing it

[bronze plume]

then dont get her

[rancid folio]

sure

[bronze plume]

its that simple

[green ibex]

its better to do 10 1 pulls than 1 10 pull

[ocean hawk]

wait a minute, winning / losing the 50/50 still reset the counter no ? (the normal counter)

[midnight stirrup]

Only reason we prefer to lose first then get the guarantee is bc standards arent bad right now.

Soon theyll be bad, and youd rather have gotten that char at 100 than 120

[bronze plume]

minus ember

[unreal light]

these things are the best for your accesories

[rancid folio]

i lost to lifeng and yvonne pulling for leav

lmao

[unreal light]

they have the highest stat

[midnight stirrup]

Im saying if you get Laev for example rn at 100 instead of 120, those 20 pulls u saved can go into the next banner. Yes you couldve lost at 100 to a 5050 and then gotten a Laev at 120

But we only care about that rn while standards are still decent

[green ibex]

nice name

[midnight stirrup]

Soon youll want to win Laev at 100 instead of 120

cause why would u want a standard

[humble hinge]

I hope we'll get Z7 team members alters

[unreal light]

it is of a monster with horns

[midnight stirrup]

Id rather have 10000 oreberyl than a standard unit

[ocean hawk]

ahh, if we have the 120 budget right

but if we had only 100 and get laev on 100, then u save nothing

[unreal light]

https://giphy.com/gifs/chen-arknights-gif-PrPdIVZvuIZnyYUA9z

[midnight stirrup]

You do save

Because if u lost the 5050 at 100, u still had to grind 20 for laev

you dont need to if u win laev at 100

cause those pulls can go to future banners

[ocean hawk]

ah, again then we talking about having 120 budget for each banner

[rancid folio]

btw how good is yvonne

[green ibex]

shee bad

[rancid folio]

oh rlly

[green ibex]

yeahhh

[unreal light]

great with gilb

[rancid folio]

i dont rlly mind cause i got her loosing 50/50

[green ibex]

she bad as hell

[rancid folio]

ans i dont rlly like her

so whatever

[midnight stirrup]

Huh

I think ur missing the point

[green ibex]

no like shee badd