#theorycrafting

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normal tangle
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they're the same essence bruh 😭

torn raft
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Actually a lvled chara for it feels bad

drifting quest
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i foddered it into my laev essence

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once i was done farming

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i had 2

normal tangle
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literally identical 😭

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lmfao

amber vapor
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1/3 of a day up to 10 days of farming lmao

torn raft
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Maxing a char is brutal

short pivot
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Corrosion just debuffs the enemies right?

torn raft
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That's why during your farm hold off on upgrading essences and maybe try for a better base

peak void
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whose gear should i start artificing first? i have laeva and endmin/panda teams

torn raft
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Except for surtr's weapon

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Cause it costs artificing mats to farm her essence

amber vapor
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You don't need to farm for essences or gear artifices until post-story into endgame anyways

compact bridge
amber vapor
torn raft
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Is all good

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Im possibly around 1-6 days from finishing surtr

peak void
amber vapor
amber vapor
timber harness
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ok team acquired no reason to quit anymore i actually have to play

peak void
amber vapor
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Dunno who you heard that from

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You can just focus on one team for now

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And if you have Laev and one of her good weps or sig then just do her

peak void
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I personally like the physical team more cus its more consistent dmg, but laeva seems to have a higher ceiling

torn raft
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I think it's the other way around

peak void
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laeva lets me beat some enemies that i cant otherwise

amber vapor
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Physical team is all DPS versus Laev team having Laev as a hyper carry

peak void
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but phys is smoother

amber vapor
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By definition a hyper carry team does more DMG

peak void
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oh so phys is kinda expensive to raise?

thin berry
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this is the best quest in the game

pure spoke
peak void
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i guess ill focus laeva for now then since its kind of a one and done deal

amber vapor
pure spoke
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i wonder how max build phys team is compared to max build surtr team

ocean hawk
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slowly but surely (im broke)

peak void
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Slowly but surely
Rapid Ascent

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😆

pure spoke
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chen gaming

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soon 99

peak void
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So uh, yall wouldnt happen to know what gear set i should be artificing for laevatain right?

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idk if the pins are accurate

ocean hawk
amber vapor
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The pins are indeed accurate

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Iana's spreadsheet is good

drifting quest
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set choice is preference for now

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since which is better depends on content

vagrant surge
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Question about pog's breach, does every stack of vulnerability improve its effects or just the sp recovery?

peak void
drifting quest
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dont use that set then

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simple as

amber vapor
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Yeah exactly

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The beauty of this game is the freedom to build your teams as you please

ocean hawk
# vagrant surge Question about pog's breach, does every stack of vulnerability improve its effec...
peak void
drifting quest
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its preference

dry kindle
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Faster rots for lower dpsp

pure spoke
dry kindle
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The end

drifting quest
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if you dont like the idea of it then there's nothing to convince you on

amber vapor
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What

dry kindle
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And no one here bothered doing dps math yet

peak void
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thats not even personal opinion

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im just not convinced

pure spoke
dry kindle
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Dpm

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Whatever

drifting quest
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which is better depends on content

pure spoke
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fastes he got with surtr is 1:19 sec rn

dry kindle
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I'd hope so

drifting quest
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it goes no deeper

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rhodagn is an example of content where hot work wins without much contest

dry kindle
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Laev can 15s rhodagn

mortal wolf
vagrant surge
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Basically 4 stack for breach before lifeng's 0 stack physical susc?

dry kindle
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Fuck off aaaaa

drifting quest
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slabbing

ocean hawk
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refresh or buy all

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since the refresh cost becoming much higher

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every attempt

drifting quest
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you can fish for orundum and arsenal tokens

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thats what i do now

torn raft
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Buy the triangle and refresh

amber vapor
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i've never refreshed once

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yesterday I had 4 95% off t-creds

floral cosmos
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i say skip triangle and do tcreds

peak void
floral cosmos
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i have hella triangles

ocean hawk
peak void
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gg

ocean hawk
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I already get the triangles

torn raft
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U have triangles? Did u not get cabin skills

floral cosmos
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yes

ocean hawk
floral cosmos
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everyone has the first ones at least

torn raft
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I ran out leveling them lol there are some insane ones

floral cosmos
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i bought them all out of valley 4 tho

steel hedge
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whats better for lifeng? Jet or valiant?

floral cosmos
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im not wasting tcreds for cabin skills tho atm, i got both lifeng and poggers today so im strapped af

naive ice
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yeah, having trouble theorycrafting the optimal phys. team rotation/build as well

torn raft
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Pog and gilberta lasts in a cabin for 22 hours

naive ice
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i don't think it's solved yet lol

torn raft
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It's huge

ocean hawk
steel hedge
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okiee tysm

timber harness
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i know this isnt his best option anymore technically but i lucc sacked this so. its good to have a backup right? heard this weapon is good not only on just him

dry kindle
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Pretty sure iana would jump this mf 💀

ocean hawk
peak void
ocean hawk
drifting quest
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marble, dorito

pure spoke
drifting quest
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anything thats a longer fight really

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plus overworld

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charge set is just better for overworld

peak void
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oh overworld huh

timber harness
peak void
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now that is making me convinced

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i need the overworld qol

dry kindle
torn raft
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China client diff

ocean hawk
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iana will burn their house

drifting quest
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im here till i get tired enough to sleep

dry kindle
drifting quest
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then ill be back in like 5-8 hours probably

timber harness
drifting quest
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i did not

naive ice
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i think (?) the general consensus is that endmin > dapan

timber harness
naive ice
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but their rotations are completely different

drifting quest
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never rest is

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a usable option if you lack thermite

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but outside of pog there's no home for it

naive ice
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and people don't have calcs for either b/c nobody knows the true optimal sets

timber harness
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yeah i used the box on something other than thermite assuming it wasnt even his bis and also i didnt have him after my 40 guarantee

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holy mistake

pure spoke
timber harness
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ty tho

naive ice
bronze plume
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dapan does more dmg then endmin icl gang

naive ice
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i'm planning on vertical investing on endmin just because they have 4 more potentials incoming tbh

drifting quest
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dapan has a smoother rot, gets more crushes

wintry hazel
bronze plume
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endmin has more ease of use for most but if you want overall team dmg you go dapan

drifting quest
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helps with stacking

timber harness
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one more question. You think its worth to pull a 6* for lifeng? or just ignore it for now and get laev sig while its up

torn raft
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Next endmin pot is +15 agi

drifting quest
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endmin has a theoretically higher short fight ceiling but investment tends to ask for more than dapan

wintry hazel
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So dapan act>endmin?

drifting quest
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for most people in most cases yes

naive ice
drifting quest
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both are getting replaced anyway

wintry hazel
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Yh

bronze plume
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well yeah eventually everything will get replaced by something better but that mindset is stupid

wintry hazel
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Lowk I really want to up phys team (2nd team) rn

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But like

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Bruh my resource kinda lackin

timber harness
torn raft
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Not really when upgrading is crazy expensive

timber harness
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personally you wouldnt catch me dead using panda

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even from a meta perspective you never know what dupes endmin will get

torn raft
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Depends on how fast i guess u should worry

bronze plume
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i mean you can use either panda or endmin it doesnt really matter

timber harness
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and theyre relative enough as is

tired summit
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Lifeng+dapan+chen+poggers
I finally have em all, where cna i see what to build to them? is there a doc link?

bronze plume
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it makes 0 sense

drifting quest
wintry hazel
torn raft
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I said depending on how fast

drifting quest
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as soon as 1.1

bronze plume
wintry hazel
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I have so much weapon lv 80

timber harness
bronze plume
wintry hazel
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Just bcs I took wrong weapon

bronze plume
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if you like the character coming out sure save

torn raft
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Rn it probably doesnt matter

bronze plume
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if you like whats out rn

mortal wolf
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when's 1.1 actually

bronze plume
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no point just build

bronze plume
ocean hawk
mortal wolf
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oh yeah damn that is kinda soon

ocean hawk
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if we follow 3 month pattern

timber harness
# drifting quest ?

thats what the speculation was a few days ago in chat. the wuxia themed lady im thinking of.

ocean hawk
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april ?

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idk

wintry hazel
drifting quest
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fangyi is likely electric

timber harness
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Unless theres actual information im not aware of

drifting quest
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mifu electric or fire

naive ice
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isn't this normal for gacha, the argument of not investing bc there will always be a better unit in the future is stupid no

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what is the confusion

drifting quest
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tangtang probably phys but could be others

wintry hazel
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I really like phys

drifting quest
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rossi probably fire

wintry hazel
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But my invested team is avy

ocean hawk
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it might be late march to, since yvonne banner ending on middle of march ?

timber harness
drifting quest
drifting quest
torn raft
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I mean it makes sense nobody is making a lvl 90 akekuri/antal

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Cause they will be replaced

timber harness
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ic

bronze plume
wintry hazel
bronze plume
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womp

ocean hawk
ocean hawk
drifting quest
# naive ice do we have a timeline

laev now > gilb > yvonne > 1.1 (tangtang, mify, fangyi assumed, maybe lizwhatever her name is) > 1.2 (rossi, maybe lizwhatever her name is, male sarkaz)

wintry hazel
bronze plume
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so

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build them

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?

naive ice
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^

wintry hazel
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Can't afford lv 80 phys team as second after tho

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Gotta take like a patch

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Or more

bronze plume
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getting resouces for building characters will happen

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so

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wait a patch

dire sable
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Guys, do we have anywhere equipment chart for characters? Th

wintry hazel
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After a patch or more
There's prob even better team

timber harness
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what if tang tang isnt even a carry and is a replacement for another phys standard or even a phys support lol

dry kindle
naive ice
drifting quest
bronze plume
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your just proving the point of the stupidity that is dont build anyone rn cuz in 1.1 better characters will show up but then dont build them cuz new stuff will show up in 1.2 etc

ocean hawk
drifting quest
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since we know nothing

dry kindle
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I'm being poor

ocean hawk
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this always happen on new gacha game

dry kindle
naive ice
drifting quest
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its just advice for people to consider and make their own decision on

ocean hawk
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the resource will stacking so much when the games run long enough

naive ice
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like, there's legit no endgame

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just build?????

dire sable
bronze plume
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be cautious with what you build sure but if you are too cautious you aint getting anything done

timber harness
ocean hawk
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but, the advice in here just to make people consider the team they should / prioritize to build in the currrent situation

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with the scarcity of the resources

timber harness
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makes all this theorycrafting useful, but not the end all be all to what people enjoy team wise

bronze plume
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just use yo sanity on resources

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not hard

drifting quest
bronze plume
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sanity come back bam more resoucres

drifting quest
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technically no reason to invest in the 4th

dry kindle
dire sable
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So once again, do we have equipment chart anywhere, does anybody know? I'm wondering what to commit to when building Pog or Leif, and there are a few options I guess.

drifting quest
ocean hawk
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WHO

wintry hazel
drifting quest
dire nymph
ocean hawk
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ah

naive ice
wintry hazel
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U need their sig?

drifting quest
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it requires bis gear yes

wintry hazel
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Is pog w sig act better than therm though

drifting quest
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well i say that

dire sable
timber harness
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Whats umbral consist of. Im talking about dps check endgame and didnt even look into it lol

drifting quest
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level 60 clear lmfao

wintry hazel
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Is pog sig better than therm

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Cause like

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I've seen some ppl say it is

ocean hawk
wintry hazel
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I don't have therm tho so

bronze plume
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this game cant be considered hard until the harder mode of umbral is out anyway

ocean hawk
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it only add personal damage buff

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thermite or fortmaker is better

rare rover
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pog sig personally ups his damage but pog is used for sp regen so its pointless

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slap termite on him

wintry hazel
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Sad ion got therm

naive ice
ocean hawk
wintry hazel
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Isn't fort for art dmg?

ocean hawk
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its 5 star weap

timber harness
drifting quest
ocean hawk
drifting quest
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its easier than some farming stages

ocean hawk
wintry hazel
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Ic

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What about Chen?

bronze plume
wintry hazel
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Sundering? ??

dire sable
dry kindle
ocean hawk
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3.5%

blazing lake
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I need more trim medals

ocean hawk
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again 3.5%

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soo small

wintry hazel
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Chen uses sundering or sth

timber harness
green ibex
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who i spend the 6 star ticket on

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brah

rare rover
ocean hawk
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is it worth it

timber harness
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Even if its small how am i incorrect lol

ocean hawk
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3.5%

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and thats on 3 bar

rare rover
bronze plume
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tf you mean gear components based on my lvl mf none of this is for gold gear

green ibex
timber harness
ocean hawk
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but

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still its not worth it

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did u cope for ur pull earlier ?

blazing lake
blazing lake
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So maybe

ocean hawk
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coz I got that weap too

blazing lake
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I'm waiting for the arsenal ticket rotation

green ibex
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after gilbert is Yvonne

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and

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uhh

dry kindle
green ibex
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who pulling for yvone

dry kindle
blazing lake
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Whale is speaking

bronze plume
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whales dont count

rare rover
wintry hazel
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Lifeng really needs his sig?

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Isn't he a finisher

ocean hawk
blazing lake
dry kindle
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💀

blazing lake
wintry hazel
ocean hawk
naive ice
wintry hazel
green ibex
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i have the standard pogniknik team

ocean hawk
naive ice
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judging him in a vacuum vs. his role in his team

dire sable
timber harness
# ocean hawk did u cope for ur pull earlier ?

How does me making a factual statement translates to me coping now? I pulled his weapon because I dont have thermite but the weapon gacha is virtually free anyways. its just a placeholder lol

timber harness
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and im a spender so if i really wanted to i could just get it

ocean hawk
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🙏

dry kindle
timber harness
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I asked about it once I was just saying it does buff the team when you said it didnt lol

ocean hawk
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i said "my mistake" earrlier

timber harness
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After I said otherwise but yes lol

naive ice
ocean hawk
bronze plume
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some characters dont even want their mainstat

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rip agility on akekuri bros not fast shes smart

dry kindle
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Prydwen mentioned

bronze plume
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Prydwen 🤮

dire sable
drifting quest
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we love how wrong prydwen is

ocean hawk
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pog didnt need damage since hes sp generator

bronze plume
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ake is the main one

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due to sp regen on her secondary stat

rare rover
timber harness
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yeah prydwen is trolling for that

naive ice
drifting quest
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w/e

bronze plume
dire sable
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I'd rather ask here than just go blindly read a wall of text on Prydwen

torpid jay
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Is there a guide for what gear to buy for leavitain?

dry kindle
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Who knows anymore

drifting quest
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like we dont care much for int stacking on ake

dry kindle
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Were at the point of fuckin double slab

ocean hawk
drifting quest
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anymore

tame trail
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whats the endmin set for a non crush focus phys team

dry kindle
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I want out

naive ice
ocean hawk
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it doesnt mean this channel always correct

tame trail
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actually is there an endmin build thats just ult spam

dire sable
timber harness
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yet when you look at prydwen they say eminent on mc is better than their sig for the same reason they say thermite cutter is worse on pog LOL what is that contradiction

timber harness
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Think they said mc isnt necessarily a carry? and wants to contribute to team damage more than their own

compact bridge
naive ice
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i generally use prydwen (and other sites) to cross-check/reference my information but this game is so unsolved everything is the wild west rn 😭

ocean hawk
timber harness
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but for pog its the other way around? i dont get it

dire sable
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I mean, you gotta try to investigate, otherwise it's like asking chatgpt without ever thinking

timber harness
dry kindle
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Double slab is meta

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🗣️

dire sable
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I'm doing that if that wasn't clear so far

ocean hawk
bronze plume
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fuck it quad slat

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slap the slab on the gloves

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slab it on yo chest

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1000 int

ocean hawk
dry kindle
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Explode

timber harness
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personally when i need meta advice i look at iwintolose's poorly made rushed content on latest trendy gacha 🥴

bronze plume
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i wonder who will Beef #1 Ardelia fan pick

blazing lake
compact bridge
dire sable
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I didn't bother googling or asking for advice even once so far, and finished the game with whatever it gave me initially, now that all of the content syphoned through, I'm trying to figure out my future direction

timber harness
blazing lake
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Get all the orbies

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Trim medals

compact bridge
bronze plume
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my slabs look more like a retractable ruler

dire sable
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Chests are collected, orbs are collected

blazing lake
ocean hawk
dry kindle
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Oh what the fuck

ocean hawk
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so i can make money faster

bronze plume
dire sable
ocean hawk
blazing lake
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Get rich

ocean hawk
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but atleast I can run 2 battery and 1 component factory

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with 90 xinarite / s

bronze plume
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its not like yo meant to have it all working at 100% until we get all of wuling anyway

dire sable
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Yeah, I'm getting all that done quite well. Really no issue with the content so far anyway, but now that I'm thinking of building specific Pog/Leif team I'm feeling slightly lost with the equipment is all. I'll figure something out.

torn raft
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Regional 12 is what matters

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So we can just print xiranite

bronze plume
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and more ferrium

ocean hawk
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atp, red gear might be released

bronze plume
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there will probably be a better battery and meds to make in wuling down the road anyway

ocean hawk
torn raft
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We're gonna get 1 ferrium node to hit 120

bronze plume
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double the xianrite for next battery ong

green ibex
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bludddd this game so hard how am i supposed to get 20 pulls for laevatain in like 2 days

torn raft
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Realistically we should be producing higher tier healing for more money

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I think wuling city has like 180 chests

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Goodluck

bronze plume
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just open chests

dire sable
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Can you give me more chests to open please?

bronze plume
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if you still havent gotten the 120

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you have a good amount to do

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i got 200 pulls without money you can get 120

green ibex
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is the wuling story alreaady done cause i havent finished it

bronze plume
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no

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valley 4 has like 6 sub ares

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wuling only has 2

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and we already know where the next one goes

green ibex
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i meantt the story

dry kindle
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Double slab does the same as normal tide

bronze plume
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NO

dry kindle
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Wao

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🔥

bronze plume
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n to the o

blazing lake
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Wait did they change how the ores are mined with the patch

naive ice
green ibex
blazing lake
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I checked the notes

naive ice
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or am i trippin

dry kindle
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I should make double slab laev

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🔥

bronze plume
naive ice
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yeah gg

summer flower
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So who to pick from selector?

valid zealot
bronze plume
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whoever you need for the team you want

torn raft
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Pick the good one

summer flower
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Ehh

dire nymph
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pick me

summer flower
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I might check their dijang skills instead

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XD

torn raft
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Based

mortal wolf
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wait how does this team even work actually, I dont get the synergy

summer flower
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What's pog doing there?

valid zealot
alpine halo
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will they expand wuling or move on to another region?

dire nymph
bronze plume
dire nymph
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laev is laev

torn raft
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There is no endgame, time to dijang max

mortal wolf
valid zealot
mortal wolf
valid zealot
mortal wolf
drifting quest
valid zealot
mortal wolf
drifting quest
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pure overworld team that technically minmax's

pure spoke
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how much better is the exemplar vs ancient canal for da pan?

valid zealot
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Mental illnesses are not short people.

heavy fossil
drifting quest
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its not good in actual endgame

drifting quest
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pure overworld qol

torn raft
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Mental illness is hitting 240 on laevatain banner

blazing lake
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Did they move any mining spots?

shy bone
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So im just about to start like farming for essences what am i looking for when im trying to get essence for this

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Idk which specific ones im looking for

drifting quest
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the essences on the weapons you have

shy bone
drifting quest
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a weapon has 3 lines

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you want an essence with those lines

bronze plume
blazing lake
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O

torn raft
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Im hoping i dont have to fight pirates every time i want to gather the shrooms

bronze plume
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actually imma test it

torn raft
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I like the patrol near the tp for the wuling depot

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Some1 has a shared turret there

bronze plume
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yeah the enemies here are gone

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me when i can read what the devs says

torn raft
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Damn no more mushroom praying

ocean hawk
torn raft
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That he grenade will die soon

bronze plume
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i mean yeah

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it aint mine

torn raft
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I mean itll get removed by owner now

bronze plume
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im good on da power usage

proper walrus
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da pan or endmin

torn raft
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Nobody knows

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Flip a coin

bronze plume
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dapan = more overall dmg
endmin = ease of use

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basically

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thats the tldr

drifting quest
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endmin isnt easier to use though

valid zealot
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Isn't it the other way around.

drifting quest
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the rotation is way clunkier

bronze plume
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man

drifting quest
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dapan is more damage over long fight

bronze plume
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idfk anymore

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go use ember fuck this shit

drifting quest
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endmin is more damage in short burst

heavy fossil
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anyone know what this means?

mortal wolf
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Ok so wait what's Ember for then? I barely see her around in the doc

valid zealot
drifting quest
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ember is not good

bronze plume
ocean hawk
heavy fossil
mortal wolf
valid zealot
drifting quest
torn raft
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Damage cost opportunity

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Play ember if u want to unbind dodge

bronze plume
drifting quest
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punishes you because you are incentivised to not dodge with ember

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but dodging is op

heavy fossil
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also you have to take damage to function

drifting quest
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me when the stuff listed in 'future qol updates' is not here in the present

torn raft
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They can make a damage taken op or something

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Then she'll be good

mortal wolf
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What sword should she use at that point?

heavy fossil
bronze plume
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its a gacha game not a reading game come on now

bronze plume
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do i

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try get more 3/3 essence for my 2nd team or

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uhh

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maybe i just finally get thermites 3/3 instead of the goated 2/3 i rolled

mortal wolf
#

I feel I have made a mistake getting Clannibal for Wulfgard

#

I don't remember what else was in the crate

drifting quest
#

valiant

#

if it was the laev banner one

supple epoch
#

To ult efficiency builds

drifting quest
#

oops

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no sleep moment

supple epoch
#

But he might get a diff team later

#

It’s specific to laev teams rn

mortal wolf
# drifting quest valiant

I mean I think I'm fine with Valiant there's still the other crate

I only remember Wedge being in the crate with Clannibal

#

should I grab Valiant then before I "fat finger" the Prince for Ember

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nvm I read yes

dire sable
#

Valiant seems like a great choice yeah

mortal wolf
#

But I feel Oblivion might be useful too hmm

bronze plume
#

valiant is good for lifeng if you are going physical

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if you arent going phys

#

thermite

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or thermite also works for pog

dire sable
#

It might be and yes, choose only what you actually need for somebody you have

bronze plume
#

if youre going phys

#

valiant or thermite basically

mortal wolf
dire sable
#

Yeah, pretty much. Those were my choices as well, I'm still consdering

#

Might as well pull Pog's weapon first and see if Valiant comes along because it's in the pool

mortal wolf
#

oh wait what the hell I have Valiant already LMAO

dire sable
#

Bruh

mortal wolf
#

I'll let the crate sit

dire sable
#

Yeah, do that

bronze plume
#

if youre talking about chimeric yes it exists

#

but valiant and lifengs sig are still better for him

#

yes ult gain is good but its not the second coming of jesus for everybody

valid zealot
#

Ult bot lifeng.

mortal wolf
#

I see nodders

valid zealot
mortal wolf
#

hmm

I see nothing wrong with this

All I got was some dude in #help crashing out over it

dry kindle
#

@frigid vector true answer to slab vs tide YA I hate it here

valid zealot
#

but ake goated.

mortal wolf
wild meteor
#

Yeah same person

bronze plume
#

yeah but that doesnt mean you have to use her

valid zealot
#

No SP.

bronze plume
#

you have options in video games

amber vapor
dry kindle
#

Seriously why does this match standard tide with set active

mortal wolf
#

so she'll sit there until I'm desperate

amber vapor
bronze plume
amber vapor
#

She's so cute

dire sable
#

Not a huge fan of Ake as well, time to accept being wrong and don't worry about it

bronze plume
#

a opinion based awnser literally cant be wrong

mortal wolf
bronze plume
#

well opinion based question rather

amber vapor
#

Like c'mon now

mortal wolf
bronze plume
#

try being funnier gang idk

dire sable
#

I agree with you bit, but there is always somebody in the room who is "Bruh, but my meta is the only way to live by", unfortunately

teal pawn
#

We have Ake hate in here????

bronze plume
#

DOLLY SAN

dire sable
#

No hate at all, no

bronze plume
#

MR DOLLY

mortal wolf
# bronze plume MR DOLLY

I'll take that over "who wants to play icebreaker games?" "follow my flare!" "now we move on to aar pca..."

dire sable
#

I like being tongue in cheek too, but it rarely translates well in a chatting environment

frozen tide
#

Jp>>>

mortal wolf
#

I like Laeva's EN and the shifting accents between the characters so I didn't go JP

dire sable
amber vapor
valid zealot
#

She's just a caring angry woman.

dire sable
#

My team is going to sound mostly manly, with only Ardelia being soothing and cute once ina while

mortal wolf
#

in EN there's a hint of it

amber vapor
#

Yeah she gives irritated and bashful vibes fr

dire sable
#

I'm hoping Rossi is phys.. so I can pull her, but I'm not exactly expecting it to all align perfectly

mortal wolf
#

but yeah anyway if GilWulfArd's fine I'll keep using it LMAO

#

I can't tell what's endgame yet tbh ._.

amber vapor
dire sable
bronze plume
#

finally i can move on now that the stupid bp challenge is done

bronze plume
valid zealot
#

I'm still 5/6 atk.

whole crystal
valid zealot
#

This gonna take a while.

dire sable
bronze plume
#

think its been changed slightly from cbt2

mortal wolf
#

I've done nothing but invest everything into Laeva for the past two weeks

bronze plume
#

but in cbt2 it was a 10 min time limit to get all rewards with 3 stages

#

ive invested into 2 teams

dire sable
#

Aha, I see. So we gotta get prepped up for that quite well

amber vapor
bronze plume
#

yeah laev can just solo it

whole crystal
bronze plume
#

its also not the ranged enemy stage

dry kindle
#

💀

dire sable
#

I wish I liked meta ways, but I don't, so no Laeva for me

bronze plume
#

shock

#

(im not shocked)

bronze plume
#

like not other teammates

amber vapor
#

It's like diet Whiwa huh

dire sable
bronze plume
#

yeah but we saying

#

if laev solo can do it

mortal wolf
#

christ guess I'll ask here

bronze plume
#

its not hard

drifting quest
#

i play what i like players in a theorycrafting channel

valid zealot
#

Brotherman solo Lae was an option.

dire sable
#

Heard

#

THat's good then

bronze plume
dry kindle
#

Same shit

#

Just don't get hit

bronze plume
#

i mean no

mortal wolf
#

Is there a point where I can stop leveling the character if they're not the main DPS

bronze plume
#

one of the stages you literally lose hp per second

dire sable
mortal wolf
#

60/80?

dry kindle
#

It's laev

bronze plume
#

so it would actually be kinda interesting if laev did that on the trim

dry kindle
#

Talent 2 🔥

valid zealot
bronze plume
#

gang talent 2 aint out healing the damage of it

valid zealot
#

So they can take gold gears.

drifting quest
dry kindle
bronze plume
#

granted i wouldnt be surpirsed if they made it easier for the casuals

#

it did more den dat gang

mortal wolf
bronze plume
#

now i just need the weapons for my electric team

dire sable
bronze plume
#

wait skills exist

#

cringe

torn raft
#

Checkmate

whole crystal
drifting quest
valid zealot
#

They work with numbers.

drifting quest
#

everyone who's actually number crunching theorycrafting is doing it from the minmax approach

valid zealot
#

Numbers are tiring.

torn raft
#

I will contribute once tangtang releases

amber vapor
drifting quest
#

implying tangtang wont be phys and be solved in 2 minutes because half the discussions here are phys

bronze plume
#

ill contribute in 1.4 when we get the nature main dps

amber vapor
#

You are free to take what you like from all the number crunching

whole crystal
torn raft
#

There will be new gear to argue about

drifting quest
bronze plume
#

we already know who the nature main dps will be in 1.4 its ||AHH YOU THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A ENDFIELD CHARACTER? MAYBE ARKNIGHTS? NAH ITS ME DIO!||

drifting quest
#

anyone who wanted to cook the best ember dps setup would be alone in doing it

torn raft
#

There is still nonset chest and gloves to be added

#

Godbless

dire sable
#

I'm okay playing non-meta team, but I still want to figure out what are the best pieces of equipment or weaponry to invest when I use my stuff. I'll just develop and diverge from here. I'm thankful for people providing calculations and all that, it's useful to read and figure out

bronze plume
#

better then a 67 joke

valid zealot
#

Not denying.

bronze plume
#

or would you rather a rickroll?

valid zealot
#

Rickroll fine.

whole crystal
#

but ye i get what you saying

valid zealot
#

Some culture left in me.

torn raft
#

Ember has gilberta synergy

#

U got that going

gritty olive
#

Im doing ccb arclight so idk where sworce is

amber vapor
gritty olive
#

Calculate how bad hvonne is compared to surtr

amber vapor
drifting quest
#

still ends up worse than ardelia for most if not all

modest thorn
#

how many centuries do u guys think laevatain will be the best unit for

amber vapor
#

You can probably construct a more convincing argument for building catcher than ember

drifting quest
#

shes not even the best unit right now

#

so 0

modest thorn
#

wtf cryaboutit

#

who is the best unit rn

drifting quest
#

probably like akekuri

modest thorn
torn raft
amber vapor
#

Yeah the SP gen and link amp is very comfy

drifting quest
#

you can make a decent argument that laev isnt even top 5

gritty olive
#

#theorycrafting is going to be #guesscrafting until people actually do like a better simulator

#

Like asagi for hsr

modest thorn
#

i feel like i recognize that name from re1999

gritty olive
#

Im doing arclight so no

wintry hazel
#

3 damn options for me to choose

#

The first option is : pull gil -> invest avy team more -> skip fangyi
Second is pull fangyi -> skip gil
Third is pull both but won't be able to afford phys dps

#

🥀

drifting quest
#

Wait for drip marketing

#

Simple enough

wintry hazel
#

Or nah

drifting quest
#

If its a month in advance no

wintry hazel
#

So it's gonna be on gil banner?

#

They will announce the drip market

#

Idk if it works same as ak

drifting quest
#

If it follows the normal cadence of other gacha yes

#

If it follows ak cadence no

wintry hazel
#

Ow

#

Sick

#

So I can't just use the selector rn and wait till drip market

torn raft
#

What is drip market

wintry hazel
#

Wtf

drifting quest
#

Next patch banner reveal early

torn raft
#

Ah ok

drifting quest
#

Splash arts, element, rarity, class

torn raft
#

I avoided every action gacha except this one lol

manic blade
#

Endfield is peak idc what ppl say

drifting quest
#

E.g. if Yvonne was 1.1 we'd get
Her splash, 6*, Cryo, Pistols, Striker

torn raft
#

Gotcha ty

steel hedge
#

is there an achievement in game that shows you the highest damage you dealt in a single instance

mint dagger
#

no i think

steel hedge
#

hmm i see, tyty

frigid vector
wintry hazel
#

Lin

#

With the free selector

#

R u gonna change routes

frigid vector
#

I'm pocketing that right now

wintry hazel
#

Or still going gil all the way

#

Oh

frigid vector
#

I'm gonna roll for every character, if only for content needs

#

so I'm committed to gil regardless

wintry hazel
#

Ic

mortal wolf
#

o watahell lin-0

#

hello

frigid vector
#

and tbh she's just a general AoE char so I can't go wrong

#

hlo SALUTE

wintry hazel
#

R u f2p though

#

Wondering

frigid vector
#

no

wintry hazel
#

Bro got fans

frigid vector
#

can't roll for every char as f2p

wintry hazel
wintry hazel
#

5 pulls 6* every banner

frigid vector
#

I can p5 every character in a 10 pull

#

trust

wintry hazel
#

Cause I've seen p5 lae with 180

dry kindle
#

Surely guoba does sims

frigid vector
#

the answer

#

to tide or lynx

#

is the "why not both" meme

#

genuinely can't make this up

dry kindle
#

Ask hg for hotwork set buff

#

True answer

split latch
#

So, The best Phys team is Pog, Lingeng, and what about the other two?

#

Mc and Chen, or Panda

frigid vector
torn raft
#

Does hotwork buff the combustion application?

frigid vector
#

I refuse to artifice until then

#

good question, it should buff the ticks since I don't believe there's any snapshotting

#

but I don't know about the very first hit of the reaction dmg

torn raft
#

Oh that's nice to know there's no snapshotting for that

#

I learned a bit too late but at least the kit artificing has a good match for hotworks

dry kindle
#

Bskill eats shit tho YA

dry kindle
#

Where tf do you enable subs on mobile bilibili

pure spoke
#

Is there any video of maxed out da pan? All i see is maxed out endmin doing 400k dmg

uneven roost
#

When pog consumes vuln to apply breach, do the vuln stacks scale its duration or intensity?

frigid vector
frigid vector
#

but well... when it comes to how good she is despairge

#

passable I suppose

hidden lantern
#

Does this trigger on Basic Attack and Ultimate too?

frigid vector
#

protection on every battle skill so really easy xiranite upkeep

dry kindle
#

Is all of cn running 0 bskill ults for their sims cardi

hidden lantern
uneven roost
#

So is it in my best interest to consume vuln as fast as possible for faster ults or wait for max vuln for bigger damage? 🤔

frigid vector
#

would validate myself but not logged in 😔

dry kindle
#

Can they just add 10 more sets in next wuling patch

hidden lantern
dry kindle
#

Welp I guess double slab is good on 0 bskill ult timelines 🔥

torn raft
#

Just solo chen in the overworld and look at buffs

#

I dont have her invested so i cant answer

thin berry
#

Is this old wulfguard ult

frigid vector
hidden lantern
#

I'll give it a shot. I'm curious because if it's easily kept up by basic attacks, it's a straight up permanent uptime buff

proper walrus
frigid vector
#

tbh I'm am ember enjoyer so I'll take any excuse for her to be good

#

crazy stagger build

hidden lantern
#

Do we have a way to examine active buffs?

#

I don't remember ever noticing one, so asking in case I'm just overlooking it

dry kindle
#

Just look buff bar

#

Should be readable if solo

frigid vector
#

as in what they are? or where they are? the latter is just beneath character HP bars

proper walrus
dry kindle
frigid vector
#

honestly physical seems like a mess in terms of all the potential sets I'm not confident on making recs on it for a while still

dry kindle
#

I'm still praying tangtang somehow completely fucks everything up again

tacit bloom
#

Wtb some insight: what damage increase between c0 and c5 leavatain? Anyone knows?

dry kindle
#

It'll be funny

hidden lantern
#

I tried physical team, I would not recommend, Laevatain is superior especially since can funnel into her. No downsides either unless it's about instant skilling in response to an enemy skill chargeup

#

However, Pog is cool and if you're running phys team because of Pog, that's a valid reason YesNod

frigid vector
hidden lantern
#

Pog protip, if you double dash with him he has a unique sliding animation for his second dash. Enjoy KEKS

frigid vector
#

I default on him to all rare gatherables because of that

#

T0 exploration

#

since dashes can be cast regardless of stamina (so long as you're above 0), just wait until you're a smidge above 1 dash's worth of stamina and then double dash

#

free double dashing love to see it

dry kindle
#

Ok now where's the pog solo umbral trim

hidden lantern
#

Confirmed something: The character sheet ATK goes up when the character is buffed

dry kindle
hidden lantern
#

I basic attacked a "sheep" wolf for their meat, no change.

I skill-killed another "sheep" wolf for their.. okay I only did it because I'm sadistic. Chen's sheet ATK went up.

blazing lake
#

call it

dry kindle
#

Buff stacking + mid finisher animation

hidden lantern
#

Left one: After I used skill on the wolf.
Right one: After buff expires. Was also the value before I tested skill on the wolf.

Pardon my weakass ATK stat kekw

#

There's also this

hidden lantern
#

So, basically, it went up because of the weapon

#

It lasted a whole 20 seconds

#

I need to remove the weapon or change to one that won't buff her like this

mortal wolf
#

Is that investment?

#

screw it I'm getting Sundered Prince

dry kindle
hidden lantern
#

Okay, I've stripped her gearless and changed her weapon to a stat stick blue trash weapon

#

She's also the only one on the deployed team

#

Now to stalk and murder!

fleet heron
#

I have a question about Wulfguard. So I know he detonates electrification and combustion. But I saw a showcase where he was being played with Alesh and after Alesh ulted Wulfguard would somehow combust the enemy.

I thought you’d have to solidify the enemy via Alesh skill before being able to combust/detonate So how was he combusting the cyro without the solidification?

hidden lantern
#

My base ATK for the record like this

ripe adder
#

chat which skill to max for akekuri and wolfgard?

manic blade
mortal wolf
#

So wait what does Lifeng do exactly? Can I replace Endmin with him?

fleet heron
hidden lantern
#

Killed wolf with Chen's skill, gained ATK

hidden lantern
#

Basic Attack doesn't count. Final Strike (from Basic Attack) doesn't count. Finisher on a staggered enemy doesn't count.

#

Found it...

#

It does show buffs. I just was blind

valid zealot
#

If you Da Pan dps yeah sure.

mortal wolf
hidden lantern
#

Chen's Ultimate counts as 5+ "Skills" for her passive

#

She went from 0 stacks to 4 stacks (oh, 5 stacks but it died too soon) after I ulted the poor Landbreaker

#

I retried with a full HP Landbreaker and it was 5 stacks

frigid vector
#

nice so it confirms it's per attack, but also no basics unfortunately

hidden lantern
#

Yeah. Or any variant of basics (finisher, final strike, etc)

#

Probably the leaping basic too. I should check that

#

But who's going to worry about that for Chen buff uptime so nvm

#

It does highly suggest that to properly give Chen uptime on her passive, she wants to refresh with her battle skill

#

Her combo skill cooldown is 16, and it likely triggers with her first time using battle skill (or somebody else's I guess)

#

So.. there's no way unless you're actively using Chen's battle skill instead of other characters'

terse furnace
hidden lantern
#

But it's moot because of the Ultimate giving stacks

#

Even if she starts with 0, ult will give her 5 stacks before her final hits of the move

valid zealot
dry kindle
#

What is cn cooking

normal tangle
#

we can't read that man

valid zealot
#

Giga ult regen something.

#

I think Lae cuz fire mentioned.

dry kindle
#

Laev rotation with 14.6% charge

#

I'll mald it when I get home if I remember

outer ermine
teal pawn
#

man still can't fucking decide 🥀

valid zealot
wintry hazel
#

Idk if I should even get gil

fleet heron
#

I was wondering in an Wulfguard main dps comps who to slot in as my fourth. He tends to guzzle skill points nonstop so he wants an sp generator.

I’ve been using him with Alesh for skill points and Cyro infliction for more combusts. Pearlica for electrification. I’m unsure if I should use arclight, akekuri, adrellia or antal in the last slot. I feel like akekuri because of her ult giving tons of skill points to enable him. I’m unsure of the others because I haven’t actually played with them yet.

valid zealot
#

Ake.

fleet heron
#

Thanks for the feedback. Looks like I was on the right track.

teal pawn
terse furnace
teal pawn
#

I could get Last Rite for Yvonne cope right now ORRR get P3 twink ||🥀||

fleet heron
valid zealot
#

Perl Antal Ake.

terse furnace
valid zealot
#

Can Antal for something else if uncomfortable.

terse furnace
#

Honestly, Gilb might be great in that comp

#

Corrosion+combustion enabling

valid zealot
#

She is but wasn't mentioned so

shrewd granite
#

Any Guide For Endmin Gear?

#

Only gear, the rest i'll adjust myself

valid zealot
manic blade
#

anyone done 1 v 2 cycle laev calcs yet :3