#theorycrafting

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high finch
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i also want that. but i will try it after i pull next time on limited character and if i'm gonna have some leftovers it's all going for lifeng signature

hexed prairie
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is that even reachable?

digital scroll
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noted, thanks

drifting quest
ripe parrot
tulip geyser
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Xaihi requiring using both her cubes to get Combo Skill a bug or mistranslation?

hexed prairie
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so need to max the artificing right? im using the built on the pin

ripe parrot
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depends on your wep too

hexed prairie
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what is that second best option called, i forget

ripe parrot
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but for the meantime, you can't go wrong with artificing gloves first

twilit quail
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it's ok to be a little bit below

manic blade
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does tidefall help any ult breakpoints at p4 like one less team skill?

twilit quail
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even with endmin it shouldnt be that bad

drifting quest
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wait all this time we've been able to do stock redistribution and and outpost trade without walking there in person???

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😭

ripe parrot
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(Y)es

drifting quest
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im just a little mentally slow

hexed prairie
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maybe its because i have skill issue, i only play this team for 30 minute so

high finch
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the game just started and we already close to lvl 60 of bp. gonna farm these till the end of the patch. i hope we can get some arsenal tickets from there

torn raft
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I complained about the ui in beta a lot

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I tried

ripe parrot
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I like the UI overall but I wish it took less button presses to get to certain parts of the menu

torn raft
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At this point ive learned it but still isn't that good lol

drifting quest
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the ui is like fine for the most part but has some small issues in some places

manic blade
high finch
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oh nvm it's shit

hexed prairie
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from what i experience, the rotation is like, lifeng skill chen combo endmin skill lifeng skill lifeng skill and then pog breach for the opener, and follow that up with pog ult,chen ult, lifeng skill chen combo endmin combo endmin ult lifeng combo lifeng ult and finished it off with crush from endmin? is this right?

high finch
shut cobalt
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question, why is last rite hard to play optimally?

hexed prairie
outer ermine
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she is? PerliStareYou

jovial grove
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i dont want to do this again so much

drifting quest
jovial grove
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annoying

drifting quest
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didnt they change it

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from cbt

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i heard it was a bad quest in cbt but is good now

shut cobalt
hexed prairie
high finch
ripe parrot
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again, can I ask why we breach at 4 stacks instead of like 3 stacks (at most)?

timber harness
drifting quest
hexed prairie
high finch
hexed prairie
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we got phys suscept or whatever it called from lifeng skill, which decreases the enemy phys resist or whatever

jovial grove
drifting quest
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2 accounts

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suffer for your greed

high finch
hexed prairie
hexed prairie
jovial grove
high finch
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wait he's p1 is even better now

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omg

timber harness
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Whats the actual rotation of the mono phys cause one person is saying skill with endmin and another says skill with lifeng

jovial grove
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do we have smh summary for phys team?
what charra (and whats their role), what weapon, what sets?

hexed prairie
high finch
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you can just stack it up to 3 times for total of 42%

timber harness
high finch
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it's insane. hail to lifeng

ripe parrot
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actually wait a second.
breach opener for pog even at 1 stack p0 can reach 1 stack fervent morale

hexed prairie
ripe parrot
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seriously, i feel like we shouldn't breach at 4 vuln

high finch
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but it's tied to 12 seconds. you need to burst the boss in that window

daring dove
hexed prairie
torn raft
jovial grove
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feel like its a cool thing to do after sutr

ripe parrot
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nvm i found the issue

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this isn't in the game tooltip but if you look at the database

jovial grove
ripe parrot
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i was confused because i was only looking at the game's tooltips

timber harness
summer flicker
high finch
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oh with 3 crowns p1 lifeng can provide up to 51% of Physical Susceptibility

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isn't that broken?

ripe parrot
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sorry i was nerding out over breach

torn raft
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I mean it's the theorycrafting channel lol

drifting quest
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whenever opal is back ill ask about getting some stuff pinned here i guess

high finch
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if only the 2nd stat was attack

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fuck that phys dmg%

stoic ruin
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swordmancer lifeng beat aethertech lifeng?

outer ermine
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something something wants all in one doc before pinning here

ripe parrot
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whoa holy m2 gain is kinda insane for chen ult

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too bad i have no crowns

hexed prairie
torn raft
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I feel like im missing out not having phys leveled

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I too want an onfield chen

hexed prairie
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even my laeva only got her ult as m3 rn, its really expensive

ripe parrot
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solo chen is fun as hell

high finch
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so how you can make a perfect rotation to fit in lifeng 51% Physical Susceptibility stacks with pog breach and finish it with huge endmin crush.

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in 12 seconds window

hexed prairie
hexed prairie
torn raft
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in a gacha cycle it should be better over time but it sucks how hard it is to max operators rn

hexed prairie
ripe parrot
hexed prairie
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we are lucky laeva doesnt need her teammate level up to 80 to perform

drifting quest
torn raft
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yeah hypercarry comp is nice u can just leave everyone at 80

ripe parrot
hexed prairie
daring dove
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Laevatain kind of reminds me of Noelle from early Genshin except her damage is actually good. Klee_Derp

hexed prairie
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as long as u get that e3

ripe parrot
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i have my team at 60 pretty much for laev

hexed prairie
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as he is kinda strong in 1.0

neon geode
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how is ginseng supposed to be the best food with 180 atk? When jakubs gives 1.2k atk to my surtr. Or how does the math work on ginseng?

ripe parrot
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it's base attack

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meaning it gets multiplied by final atk % after

hexed prairie
ripe parrot
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also farmable infinitely

torn raft
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I also believe in crit supremacy

ripe parrot
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it just takes PLOT FARMS I HATE GINSENG

hexed prairie
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btw, how do we get ginseng? i never done ingredient farming before

drifting quest
neon geode
ripe parrot
drifting quest
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if jakubs gives you more actual attack then run it

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but for most people ginseng should mean more

neon geode
ripe parrot
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wuling agricultural farm has an npc that sells seeds

torn raft
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it adds up i guess unless you are speedrunning rhodagan

ripe parrot
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he has 5x ginseng which should get you running

hexed prairie
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aight then, need it for medal farm later on

drifting quest
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you have to pick up ginseng first before he sells it

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iirc

neon geode
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u can throw those in a seeder right?

drifting quest
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there's a ginseng plant right outside

urban plaza
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jakubs also not farmable, right?

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or at least not consistently

peak glade
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maybe enough oroberyls to eventually get.m a team of 6 stars PerliWheeze

outer ermine
hexed prairie
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btw chat, the maintenance will happen at 8:00 on the usual timezone right? so its 8 hour after daily reset or what?

drifting quest
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last i saw enka was only aic planner

torn raft
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endfieldtools essence planner is a little broken

drifting quest
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ah

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i cut prydwen too

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not really needed here between outdated info and the link

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the essence list is broken so i guess ill upload it to a third party

timber harness
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prydwen shouldve just pretended they were angry with the top up drama like how they pretended they were angry with the gfl2 gacha skin just to have an excuse to not cover the game anymore. their evalutations are so cooked 50% of the time

torn raft
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it's mostly right but some inaccuracy like being able to farm adrelia weapon with clannibal

jovial grove
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how much difference between panda p5 and endmin p2
in phys (chen/pog/lingyang)

mystic halo
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we cant be calling him lingyang bro

jovial grove
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yangquing

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?

drifting quest
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is there any better third party host for most people than imgur

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there's a bunch but each one has its own issues

abstract fractal
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can i run multiple eternal xiranite in one team?

drifting quest
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yes but their effects will not stack, only reset the timer

ripe parrot
oak sorrel
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These last levels are hard af PerliDerp

ripe parrot
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i'm not sure if it's this one at the moment tbh

drifting quest
# mystic halo we cant be calling him lingyang bro

can we get
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1U-7OOoAkw1FVuHj_9SJsuKLHbF-XPFQZo7r6QpaQ7GI/edit?tab=t.0
pinned for convenience?

idk if any links to external sources might fall foul of the rules but I can delete if specific ones cause issues

ripe parrot
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panda is simple because it's 0 sp consumer and his ult also applies 2 stack vuln

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not much thought in rotation

oak sorrel
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@neon geode im F2P man, me no whale

urban plaza
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9/9 detonate :sure 👀

oak sorrel
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no im serious

jovial grove
oak sorrel
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i didnt spend anything (yet)

urban plaza
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and the weapon copies just manifested in your inventory?

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i mean its fine w/e ww

oak sorrel
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i got no other weapons expect Oblivion

jovial grove
ripe parrot
oak sorrel
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all double still active

jovial grove
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also andmin cuter

ripe parrot
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end game they're probably similar

neon geode
ripe parrot
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i don't know because i don't really have endmin raised so that's just me assuming a lot

mystic halo
oak sorrel
drifting quest
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all good

jovial grove
drifting quest
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at worst it'd be nice to just have iana's doc here

neon geode
ripe parrot
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how should we know? lol

drifting quest
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to not have to change channel to direct people to it

oak sorrel
ripe parrot
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we don't even know what endmin's p3-5 is

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so anything could change really

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future proofing is gonna be kinda impossible at this point of the game

mystic halo
neon geode
mystic halo
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I'll just do that for now then

jovial grove
mystic halo
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and get back to you on the other thing

drifting quest
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no rush

jovial grove
drifting quest
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artificed the ult gain

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om

jovial grove
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om?

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also i hit first two upgrades at first attempt each

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felt good

tranquil burrow
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Those intellect stats on the 2 kits will consume your sanity

drifting quest
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the point is that the extra ult gain does nothing

jovial grove
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TT

tranquil burrow
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It tickles the brain

jovial grove
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how could i know

mystic halo
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have you ever gambled with FOUR INTELLECT ON THE LINE?

drifting quest
jovial grove
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me just want artifice to maxi

drifting quest
tranquil burrow
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either that or dreading thinking about trying to trim triangle boss

ripe parrot
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you get: 4 intellect
i get: all of your wuling bucks

tranquil burrow
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I've been fairly lucky though, or feels like it. Hit a fair few early artifices.

ripe parrot
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fidget spinner trim is fun (read: suffering)

fading fog
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I'm already done gambling on it

tranquil burrow
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I'm at 22/40 on the last intellect and then only last pip on strength is left on gauntlet and my Lavacake is done

next helm
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I have 4 intelect

tranquil burrow
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Damn, just hit it

fading fog
next helm
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Whel

ripe parrot
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Does lift/knockdown work off a base attack modifier?

tranquil burrow
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I've only got 4 strength left to gain from artificing, and my OCD can relax

fading fog
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I won't bother with strength

ripe parrot
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or is it based off the skill dmg % itself?

fading fog
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I'd rather just save the rest for another character

jovial grove
tranquil burrow
karmic perch
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efficiency is temporary, full maxing your character like a freak is forever

ripe parrot
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I want to try full arts intensity chen for solo but i am super poor so these wuling bucks would set me back a bit if i swap

tranquil burrow
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The rate of acquisition of new 6 star operators is the real bottleneck so no waste in going ham on Laev right now unless you're building multiple teams

fading fog
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I have 2 teams already, and I plan on making a 3rd based on what I get on Angelina's banner

karmic perch
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personally just wanted to level strength enough so my attack hits 6k completely unbuffed on laev but i may just say screw it and max out everything apart from useless attributes

twilit quail
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my ange essenec is 5/5/3

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can I get the taps before she comes out

fading fog
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if nothing else I'm getting last rite from the selector since she's the only standard I'm missing

tranquil burrow
fading fog
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I'm fine with supports at 60

twilit quail
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I think if I hit one of them I can pity the other with the gel I love gambling

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this reminds me of when I played lost ark

sterile patrol
timber harness
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why is lifeng t1 on prydwen btw. is prydwen just stupid or

twilit quail
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and just didn't hit the 5% ever

drifting quest
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prydwen is moreso based on cbt info than live info

twilit quail
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🔥

drifting quest
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so its outdated

karmic perch
drifting quest
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also tier lists suck in general

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they remove all nuance

timber harness
ripe parrot
fading fog
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lifeng and pog are literally the backbone of phys

sterile patrol
silver spire
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does my dude's Wulfgard's ultimate count as "consumption", because he forcibly Combusts, for Clannibals skill trigger?

timber harness
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you get more accurate info watching iwintolose than keeping up with prydwen, which isnt saying a lot both are terrible but thats how bottom of the barrel we're talking

sterile patrol
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120% pre level multiplier

twilit quail
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I mean a tier list is no less valuable than any other format when the person making it is sufficiently knowledgeable and actually goes through the process of explaining everything in detail but you know

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therein lies the issue

fading fog
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ye I'm not sure how accurate any tier list can be atm with literally no real endgame content until the 12th

sterile patrol
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tier lists cant show nuance + people ignore the nuance if it gets written anyway

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thats why we just slam characters against rhodagn and enjoy Gladge

jovial grove
fading fog
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and even then every character has their place in their teams for specific reasons

tranquil burrow
drifting quest
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tier list based on how well they beat rhodagn

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everyone gets S tier

sterile patrol
civic rover
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We don’t even have the end game content yet, so all tierlist are fake

karmic perch
timber harness
ripe parrot
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all of my evaluations are currently just for trim

bronze wedge
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the main issues with tierlists are the lack of explanations and indepth analysis of the units/comps

drifting quest
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S tier as long as the other 3 units on her team are named last rite xaihi and akekuri and i dont use fluorite for anything but looking pretty

twilit quail
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it's just another format

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of laying out your thoughts

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but people dont treat it as such

daring dove
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There we go all done on Ult gain any point in pushing it a bit further or will I not gain much comfort from it?

civic rover
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Like Gilberta is t0 for overworld

drifting quest
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people take things at face value

tight haven
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its calculated per rotation

drifting quest
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tier lists in themself are like fine

tight haven
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you will be overcapping

twilit quail
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gilb is so fucking funny

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open world? top 1

tight haven
tranquil burrow
twilit quail
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normal other gameplay? kind of weird outside of 2 teams

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speedrunning? back to like top 3

jovial grove
drifting quest
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the gilb graph

twilit quail
ripe parrot
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pog is in his own tier for open world

drifting quest
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cinema

daring dove
twilit quail
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the electric 12.9s rhodan kill

drifting quest
twilit quail
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with like 50s of prior setup

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baited so many people

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cause the setup is whiffing avy ult, drinking 5x stew meeting

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then do that 2 more times

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before pulling

tight haven
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peak

mystic halo
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ok i know it's funny but dont spam reacts like that

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bad

timber harness
drifting quest
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one million stew meeting

karmic perch
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does anyone know if we even get to use food buffs in the upcoming endgame

tight haven
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my react spam is tasteful, timely, and reserved

ripe parrot
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iirc no

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but they recently let us use tacticals when in open beta 1 we couldn't?

tight haven
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in agony mode it seems not

tranquil burrow
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yay

drifting quest
tight haven
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at least based on the official info release

ripe parrot
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not using food is a blessing in disguise

drifting quest
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i should check for them now

ripe parrot
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less ginseng needed

tight haven
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no food = yvonne nerf

karmic perch
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huh ok, if it lets you use them at all my lazy ass gotta start crafting them

ripe parrot
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yvonne into umbral seems kinda mid in the first place even with food

outer ermine
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PerliFumo normalize no food runs

teal pawn
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I would but I also plan to get Yvonne's, and my arsenals are kinda stretching thin PerliDerp

amber vapor
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My Jasmine rice farmer ass being happy that I was able to make 7 rice meals yesterday from 56 Jasmine rice

tranquil burrow
timber harness
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yvonne seems to be so cooked with everything people has been saying about her whats going on with that limited unit

drifting quest
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tc is based around the hardest content we can access because its the only content that isnt baby mode

tranquil burrow
drifting quest
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and she has issues in said content

amber vapor
karmic perch
timber harness
karmic perch
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hopefully they at least make it harder in the future if its that easy on launch

drifting quest
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umbral monument will be trivial for you if you can trim

karmic perch
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rip...

tranquil burrow
amber vapor
sterile patrol
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this is why we need 3 team content akshuallyclueless

ripe parrot
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well how easy trim is depends on masteries and artificed gear

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for example trim 4 days ago was way worse than right now

timber harness
tranquil burrow
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My team is quite well built but I didn't use any food because it seems way too much of a hassle to farm meat

ripe parrot
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kunst tube 🔥

amber vapor
karmic perch
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id love 3 team content, maybe a bit rough to implement first patch of the game with how scarce mats are but that would be hella fun

amber vapor
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And a lot of the good foods can be bought from distro

karmic perch
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not counting on it for a while though, it took years for the mainstream gachas to add content for 3+ teams

tranquil burrow
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I'd be OK with 3 team content about... 6 months from now. That's just me though.

tranquil burrow
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Maybe even longer.

drifting quest
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honestly just give trial teams for the first few times

sudden lichen
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those numbers are crunching me, where wuling similar to that

sterile patrol
drifting quest
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or make it so our units scale to a minimum investment
80/80 sl9 or something

tranquil burrow
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The limbus way eh

amber vapor
drifting quest
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i wish limbus trial teams worked for achievements

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i need to spark spice sang and pequod ish for achievements only

mystic halo
ripe parrot
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please do if you can

sterile patrol
ripe parrot
daring dove
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Nearly there, I figured just going these mushrooms would be the best strat once I reach end-game considering everyone needs them for 90.

amber vapor
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Man I really do wish there was a sandbox which let you test all the numbers in game for weps and ops

sterile patrol
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if anyone asks for help we can refer them to the avywenna stew meeting image

drifting quest
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meme pins should exist for a relaxed channel like this

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it might help to distance it as a help channel since people tend to ask in help > get ignored > ask in team build > get ignored > ask here

tranquil burrow
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That would be so helpful

amber vapor
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You mean for full combos?

high finch
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What's the best food rn?

amber vapor
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That already exists

karmic perch
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too bad game devs in general are allergic to target dummy modes

ripe parrot
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ginseng stew / legacy

tranquil burrow
ripe parrot
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99% of the time it's ginseng

sudden lichen
amber vapor
tranquil burrow
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They force you to do a few specific target moves and then they kick you out

drifting quest
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the tutorials are kinda

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not great

karmic perch
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that mode doesnt let you take your own teams/gear in there right?

mystic halo
amber vapor
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Yeah they're the bare minimum for sure

karmic perch
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unless i blatantly missed something

mystic halo
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it's too funny

amber vapor
daring dove
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Laevatain thinks she's the captain. E_PoliwhirlConcern

amber vapor
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Yeah then something like what DNA has would be great

daring dove
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I'm not going to argue with her.

karmic perch
tranquil burrow
drifting quest
twilit quail
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told to check pins
greeted with that image

amber vapor
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Yeah even when I was a tester for the DNA cbt2 there was a sandbox that let you use any character and any wep with them and it was very nice for number crunching

supple epoch
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Wish we were getting a free weapon with this free char

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For rites 😩

amber vapor
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Man every time I use my Yvonne team I feel the urge to swap out my unoptimal Fluorite for Endmin just so that I can shatter

daring dove
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I really want Ardelia's P5 now, I'll have P4 tomorrow. But going for a standard character is risk af considering it's only a 20% pull chance on the standard banner which has poor pull value to begin with. sadcat

amber vapor
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Imagine in 6 months when there's more characters in the standard pool and we see a barrage of Ember p5s

timber harness
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(thats substantial)

daring dove
# timber harness wait the dupes actually do something past p1?

Depends on your defintion of sustaintal. She's way more comfy as a healer at P3 although putting a value on her healing being 80% better or whatever value you want to call it is always such a subjective thing in games like these. You also get much easier uptime on her debuffs with P5.

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In a game where most potentials are bad RN I'd say Ardelia has some of the better ones.

summer narwhal
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So I screwed up and got rid of Chimeric Justice, but planning on getting Lifeng tomorrow, any ideas on weapons?

ripe parrot
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mountain bearer

daring dove
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Pray for Thermite Cutter tomorrow. E_PoliwhirlConcern

vagrant sparrow
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1 more tap and i can start buil;dign my second team

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pls speed i need this

manic blade
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well I finished max artificing

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just a 5/6 int boost left

vagrant sparrow
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who even is the DPS in the phys team

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i need to farm essence for that

coral wing
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hey all ! Can you give me the best build for Wulfgard (Laevatain main dps) please 😄

drifting quest
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maybe not pog at high invest

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but his dps is still there

vagrant sparrow
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oh hell nah im cooked with the essences

drifting quest
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do them slowly

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content can be cleared without

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check for temporary purple or golds

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then slowly farm out 3/3's while foddering the rest

summer narwhal
ripe parrot
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valiant

vagrant sparrow
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yea its fine not like we get much sanity per day anyways

summer narwhal
drifting quest
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where did all your weapons go

summer narwhal
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I don't have any?

ripe parrot
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sir if you only have 3 polarms and two of them are effectively dead on lifeng i'm not sure if you even have a choice

summer narwhal
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And sorted by Polearms

twilit quail
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oh god

drifting quest
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go farm overworld chests or something man

summer narwhal
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Overworld chests?

drifting quest
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4* weapons can drop from overworld chests

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find a pathfinders beacon and then cope

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blocked for spam

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gg

summer narwhal
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Great, guess I'm screwed

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I still have those two weapon chests, but one of them has Jet in it

drifting quest
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if you're including the beginner one it does have valiant but unless you already have a thermite cutter its a rough choice

red mulch
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What are some combo engines available now?
Combos that trigger one after the other

I see the common one is
Chen, then Endmin

Now i just found Perlica and Arclight can do that kinda thing too

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Congrats lol

twilit quail
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fyi youre not allowed to post pot screenshots outside of gacha channel either

daring dove
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My bad

red mulch
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Good one

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For SP rebates

drifting quest
lime bear
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M3 Ult first right then BSkill

drifting quest
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bskill can be more value depending on build

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but you want to m6 both

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m3 both, m6 total

celest kelp
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are there any plans for a community build doc or something like that?

urban plaza
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You mean like the pinned one?

celest kelp
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it wasn't showing the tabs at the bottom, I thought it was just that one page, my bad

lime bear
drifting quest
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yes

lime bear
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if I'm using tidefall 2 pyro hot work?

drifting quest
#

the charge set ults more > more valuable ult
the hot work set skills more per ult > more valuable skill

thin berry
#

have we met this character in game yet

drifting quest
#

no

#

potentially 1.1 or 1.2

#

should be one or the other

lime bear
#

forgot

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where this from

thin berry
#

its in a trailer

lime bear
#

which

thin berry
#

the mission

lime bear
daring dove
#

Is it 20% when the skill is mastered?

drifting berry
#

It shows a preview of the next level

#

I think

lime bear
dry kindle
daring dove
lime bear
#

but I only have MOP

#

ain't enough

#

for M6

#

snfh

soft tendon
daring dove
# dry kindle Ardelia mastery 💀

She'll be P5 tomorrow gains to her susceptibility will be a bigger damage boost than the last few skills I'm missing on Laevatain. Should be really easy to keep 100% uptime on her skill with P5.

dry kindle
next helm
#

Whel

midnight stirrup
#

What the fuck

#

W dev note

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Now I need to decide whether to get Lifeng for my P2R1 Pog, or get P3 Last Rite

jovial grove
#

this looks like good use of maethyst ngl

#

for supportah

midnight stirrup
jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

I got P1 LR and Pog P2 while I was still F2P tbh

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Never got Ember or Lifeng

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or Ardelia

amber vapor
jovial grove
#

i got 1 copy of each stard 6 star except pog

  • sutr
amber vapor
#

Theoretical question btw

midnight stirrup
#

My Surtr is P5R1

amber vapor
#

Don't ever waste a slot on ember

midnight stirrup
#

My Last Rite P2R3

jovial grove
dry kindle
jovial grove
midnight stirrup
amber vapor
midnight stirrup
#

I went for 2 dupes to get a LR weapon copy

#

😭

dry kindle
amber vapor
#

I have ember but have never cared to test how shields work in this game

jovial grove
#

and last rite could really use it

midnight stirrup
#

I also got another Last Rite making her P2 elkek

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Anyway

jovial grove
#

but instead sutr has it
but lr doesnt

midnight stirrup
#

@dry kindle do I get P3 Last Rite or P0 Lifeng since I have Pog

jovial grove
#

and its so sad

amber vapor
daring dove
amber vapor
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By the time I need to dodge in my auto chain the post dodge attack is already a last hit

dry kindle
jovial grove
#

(hiper armor for lr final attack if she has skill cast)

drifting quest
jovial grove
# dry kindle Wut

sutr ult final and ult skill have hyper armor
not sure if sth has it

midnight stirrup
#

But idk if Lifeng has more value rn

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than P3 LR

#

Lifeng massive no?

jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

for what

amber vapor
#

It's supposed to last the whole year so

jovial grove
amber vapor
#

Unless you're super desperate for a specific character or potential I'd hold onto it

drifting quest
#

if you want multiple things then simply hold it

midnight stirrup
#

Theyre powerful rn

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By the time that year over it dont matter no more

jovial grove
drifting quest
#

are you pulling?
gilb?
yvonne?
1.1-1.2 units?

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
#

Not pulling Yvonne

jovial grove
drifting quest
rare bluff
#

What is theory crafting

jovial grove
drifting quest
#

i know

#

im asking if you're skipping 1.1 and 1.2 too

midnight stirrup
rare bluff
drifting quest
amber vapor
midnight stirrup
#

I mean what order

drifting quest
#

whether they are all 6*'s or some are lower rarity we dont know

#

nor the order

midnight stirrup
#

But optimization of the ticket aside

amber vapor
#

Order is unknown just speculation

midnight stirrup
#

Whats better

jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

Get premium physical or P3 LR

daring dove
# drifting quest are you pulling? gilb? yvonne? 1.1-1.2 units?

To be honest the way I looked at it, Gilberta is worse than Ardelia in most situations outside of being paired with Yvonne. But Yvonne is also worse than LR. So I just pulled on the standard banner to max those characters. Now I can just save for 1.1 / 1.2 characters. As Gilberta & especially Yvonne are looking quite mid. Gilbeta may become decent but that's about all I can see. 108_yaehmm

amber vapor
#

Vertical mobility is always better than horizontal mobility in a game about team building imo

midnight stirrup
midnight stirrup
#

you mean vertical investment?

amber vapor
#

Yeah mobility/investment

daring dove
midnight stirrup
#

😭

drifting quest
#

mobility refers to a teams ability to change over time
horizontal mobility would be swapping out units for new ones
vertical mobility would be being able to further support vertical investment

dry kindle
#

Pull gilberta because she can use stanza ez

jovial grove
amber vapor
midnight stirrup
amber vapor
#

Gilb gonna be the SK of endfield trust

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

its not a common thing

midnight stirrup
#

Always been in situations where vertical and horizontal investment are used

jovial grove
daring dove
amber vapor
midnight stirrup
midnight stirrup
#

FFS

jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

Fuck is u talking about

jovial grove
#

leaks

midnight stirrup
#

I know

#

They dont exist

jovial grove
#

i know better leaks nub

midnight stirrup
#

Leaks from youtube reels im sure

jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

You talking out of your ass bro

#

But anyway

#

This is Endfield

#

Not Genshin

amber vapor
jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

But yea first time hearing about mobility

#

Not a term used in wuwa/hoyo

amber vapor
#

New gen gacha player smh /lh

midnight stirrup
#

My first gacha was kingdom hearts union cross actually

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oldge

amber vapor
#

Dude I hated that game so much

midnight stirrup
#

True

amber vapor
#

Bring back the goat Dragalia Lost

midnight stirrup
#

Then I played dissidia final fantasy opera omnia

#

that shit was hella peak

jovial grove
bold rose
#

what armor offset do you guys use for LR

midnight stirrup
#

hollon

midnight stirrup
bold rose
midnight stirrup
#

idk tho

drifting quest
#

reading the text explains the text

midnight stirrup
#

it has combo damage amp

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iirc

drifting quest
#

aethertech is the default

daring dove
#

I just realised Ardelia's combo trigger gets a cooldown reduction naturally if you take it to Mastery 12. With P5 & Mastery 12, she goes from having a 18 second combo trigger to a 15 second one.

#

Considering the combo trigger is how she applies all her debuffs

drifting quest
#

bonekrusha poncho and frontier armour have use cases

daring dove
#

That's something I need to work on.

balmy jay
rare rover
#

finally got the ginsing recipie, yeah jakud gives more atk but thats fair cause of cr on ginsing

daring dove
amber vapor
midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

how so

amber vapor
#

That determines whether the 3 sec difference is worth the investment

drifting quest
#

str + will + a bonus you can use

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

im curious to see

high finch
midnight stirrup
#

lemme find what hifumi said

amber vapor
daring dove
midnight stirrup
#

@drifting quest

rare rover
#

it can be found there as a gold spark

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like around there directly infront

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i already collected it

drifting quest
#

a bit of a given

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especially with stuff like swordmancer supports

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if you aren't hitting the stagger point sure

#

and artificing wise i wouldnt be investing in either

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
#

im not artificing regardless

#

aint no way we aint getting new sets next patch

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
#

i mean new sets as in higher lvl

#

which they have already shown to do with green/purple

amber vapor
#

Oh like reds

drifting quest
#

we dont get higher level gear so soon

midnight stirrup
#

SAYS WHO

drifting quest
#

we may get new sets, and new sets 100% can replace current ones

#

common logic?

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we would need a new tier of components

#

1 patch into the game

midnight stirrup
#

common logic would say we dont get a 6-star selector this fast

#

yet here we are

#

debunked

drifting quest
#

if we get higher level gear it would be 2.0

amber vapor
#

Yeah I don't see why they would introduce gold gear and then an even higher lvl/tier in the same region

#

Agreed.

drifting quest
amber vapor
#

Would be a new region thing

drifting quest
#

yes

midnight stirrup
#

who

drifting quest
#

genshin is the exception

midnight stirrup
#

genshin didnt

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zzz didnt

#

hsr didnt

#

wuwa didnt

drifting quest
#

?????

amber vapor
#

I actually wouldn't mind though if newer regions have region-locked gear tied to region-locked levels or something

drifting quest
#

wuwa gave out TWO

manic blade
#

Hsr gave out a free topaz or some other chars

midnight stirrup
#

at launch?

drifting quest
#

yes

midnight stirrup
#

show the proof rn

drifting quest
#

say less

midnight stirrup
#

not after 2 years

amber vapor
#

Gold gear is endgame gear

#

Like post-story content

midnight stirrup
#

do yall think we get more wuling map next patch

#

should be right

dry kindle
daring dove
amber vapor
#

I completed everything with blue gear all the way up to marble

#

And then finally made some gold gear

midnight stirrup
#

?

bold rose
midnight stirrup
#

acting like arknights is doing bad

amber vapor
dry kindle
#

There already is

midnight stirrup
#

did yall see ths

dry kindle
#

Speaking of

amber vapor
#

Unless they add an endgame game mode that lets you redeem mats for it

dry kindle
#

Do your fuckin trials

#

💀

midnight stirrup
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Last Rite looking good af

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
#

bro thinks we going to tokyo

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hsr had to rework their next world because it was jp focused

#

bc of political beef irl

rare rover
#

which sucks

amber vapor
#

Nah it would be the Ursa region prolly

#

I'm praying we get an ice region next

daring dove
dry kindle
#

Its brazil

midnight stirrup
#

Last rite is from the ice area

#

im down

#

think pog is from there too

ocean hawk
#

bro folded under no preasure (I said: "I want to save the currency for gilb weapon")

amber vapor
jovial grove
amber vapor
#

I'm buying premium once I max out the pass anyways but

#

God damn

midnight stirrup
#

what are u talking about

#

😭

rare rover
#

the games doing fine

midnight stirrup
#

they prob did it bc of the paypal thing

amber vapor
rare rover
#

i mean u cant compare endfield to things like hoyo games cause diff companies

jovial grove
ocean hawk
midnight stirrup
#

ok im done talking to u

#

lmfao

ocean hawk
midnight stirrup
#

rn

#

wuwa struggling

#

whether thats bc f2p friendly or not idk

#

but theyre struggling

amber vapor
#

Yo let's not drive into tribalism in this chat

midnight stirrup
#

its not even tribalism

#

its stats

#

i dont hate wuwa

#

its a good game

#

shitty optimization tho

rare rover
#

genshin is thriving because their the first to do it nglPerliFumo

ocean hawk
#

can we not bring that topic again, why we always talk about this in every new gacha game PerliDerp

midnight stirrup
#

hoyo estabilished their ip

#

so yea

#

kinda

#

also 2020 benefits

rare rover
#

yeah

daring dove
#

How long does Corrison stay on an enemy naturally without Ardelia's P5?

amber vapor
#

Unless you're one of the actual investors for these gachas who cares about stats. As a consumer the only thing you have to pay with is your time

rare rover
#

quarentine, a dedicated honkai 3rd impact fanbase before hand, and first to do it = comfort for many people= stability

midnight stirrup
#

which it isnt

#

hoyo is massive

midnight stirrup
#

i didnt say the game was garbage

rare rover
#

i mean it burns u out hella

ocean hawk
#

yeah i know, its just everywhere I go someone always talk about the gacha performance

jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

that goes for anything

ripe parrot
#

honestly, having never played genshin, wuwa, or zzz, this conversation just goes way over my head

amber vapor
#

Wait if corrosion lasts for 15s then that means there's a downtime of 3s before the next Ardelia combo

#

So the pot makes the downtime 0 seconds

#

Yeah idk if it's worth allat then

#

Because an auto combo takes like 2-3 secs no?

jovial grove
midnight stirrup
#

shuo was gonna show me proof and never came back with proof

ripe parrot
#

you could theoretically time your final strike to happen as the cooldown pops but that's a lot of effort

midnight stirrup
#

L O L

drifting quest
# midnight stirrup show the proof rn

my bad one wasn't technically a selector, but a banner you can guarantee off plus compo pulls to pity it, plus any one random 5* via compo pulls, plus one actual selector
slightly misleading but still (3 free chars from compo pulls without counting free limited)

daring dove
# amber vapor 15 seconds

Right so P5 means 100% Corrison or debuff time against a single target enemy. Since she can apply every 15-16 seconds and the Corrison applies for 19 seconds?

midnight stirrup
#

LMAO

drifting quest
#

i was doing due dilligence

midnight stirrup
#

the timing

drifting quest
#

next time i wont

#

smh

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

yes

ripe parrot
#

but with things like amp damage, having 100% uptime doesn't matter as much if you're bursting really hard during the time the amp is up anyway

drifting quest
#

1.0

midnight stirrup
#

wheres the proof

#

u didnt bring proof

drifting quest
#

ok

gritty olive
#

Do we have stagger resistance for any of the units as of now

midnight stirrup
#

go get it

#

yalla

drifting quest
#

banner's are easily verified have at it

#

they should still exist

midnight stirrup
#

shuo u do realise im trolling u right

#

i believe u

drifting quest
#

i take everything at face value

#

i fall for all baits

midnight stirrup
#

my humble king

amber vapor
rare rover
midnight stirrup
#

i would never doubt my precious tcer

amber vapor
#

That's actually super overkill imo

drifting quest
#

but yeah i mean

amber vapor
#

Straight up just a comfort thing more than anything

rare rover
drifting quest
#

endfield selector is a combo of the paypal situation and just because the game is doing well

midnight stirrup
#

L O L

rare rover
midnight stirrup
#

if its actually about improving early game experience

#

then thatd be really generous of them

#

regardless

drifting quest
#

if chen is so popular why dont we have a chen4

midnight stirrup
rare rover
#

i was about to say

drifting quest
rare rover
#

u got p5 laev

midnight stirrup
#

i had to delete it bc i was so addicted i failed my exam

#

oop

amber vapor
rare rover
amber vapor
#

I think that's the only one

dry kindle
drifting quest
#

i would never do something like discuss leaks

midnight stirrup
daring dove
dry kindle
#

Guess I go die

midnight stirrup
#

were allowed to discuss leeks tho

drifting quest
#

?

#

no

midnight stirrup
#

yes, yes we are

rare rover
#

i love leeks

drifting quest
#

my face when i dont read

#

its over

#

im quitting

midnight stirrup
#

my favorite leek

#

LMAO

rare rover
#

personally mines too

amber vapor
drifting quest
#

what if she's not a leek but a spring onion

midnight stirrup
#

wait

rare rover
drifting quest
#

please dont post misinformation

midnight stirrup
#

ur lowkey cooking

outer ermine
#

PerliFumo would eat both

amber vapor
#

I love the flare leggings

amber vapor
#

It's so cute

midnight stirrup
#

LMAO

#

i love this chat bro

#

anyway lemme stop trolling and do some studying

amber vapor
#

Waiting for them to make a Qipao skin for F!Endmin tho

normal tangle
#

bugsmoke didn't even etch this it just dropped like that

#

is this my sign to play last rite

drifting quest
#

qipao skins are death sentence in terms of meta viability

drifting quest
#

every one i can think of is on a unit no longer meta

midnight stirrup
#

did you get it with a ticket

#

or without

rare rover
normal tangle
#

yeah i had a ticket targeting laeva sig

#

but that one just kinda happened

midnight stirrup
#

ah oke

amber vapor
midnight stirrup
#

btw

#

does arknights have sanity overflow

normal tangle
#

no

midnight stirrup
#

no right

ripe parrot
#

HOLY the chen that did the 2 min trim solo clear on rhod has 200 more agi than mine

#

that's actually insane

normal tangle
#

but you get like a shitload of emergency sanity boosters just for free

manic blade
normal tangle
#

so like shrug

midnight stirrup
#

you can convert those to 120 permanent btw

#

just gotta get bp

normal tangle
#

wym

midnight stirrup
#

bp gives an item that makes 120 sanity turn into condensed sanity that holds 120

#

that doesnt expire

#

so u can turn those timed ones into permanent sanity

ripe parrot
#

i've used all mine

#

i am negative sanity gaming

midnight stirrup
#

lol

manic blade
normal tangle
#

i never bought monthly pass

#

this is just kinda a thing that happens

midnight stirrup
#

what was the best premium phys rn again

#

da pan chen pog lifeng?

#

is it st or aoe focused

drifting quest
#

it can aoe but wants to st

midnight stirrup
#

yea nvm ill get p3 lr

#

cbb with another st team

midnight stirrup
#

kinda wanna see the gameplay

dry kindle
#

Welp if it's actually chen alter cny i explode

#

Fuckin primal guard looking ahh

daring dove
amber vapor
midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

its arknights the only way anything is confirmed ahead of time is if they accidentally leak it themselves, usually by the metro

midnight stirrup
#

She has cancels too

amber vapor
#

Yeah LR cancels are fun

drifting quest
#

mumu hool and wis logos incidents

dry kindle
#

Enployee monitors

amber vapor
#

Especially if you pre-bs you can cancel half the startup animation

drifting quest
#

clueless

midnight stirrup
drifting quest
#

yu incident

midnight stirrup
#

is funny af to me

daring dove
midnight stirrup
#

Yea on her combo and ult

#

iirc

#

or skill and ult

#

think combo and ult

daring dove
#

Yep

midnight stirrup
#

But also I want p5 last rite appearance change

#

she has the best one

#

lowkey

daring dove
#

What's the difference I have her P5

midnight stirrup
#

her like

#

arm things glow

#

and something else but idr

#

oh right her tail thing gives light now

drifting quest
#

never forget what we lost for last rite to exist

midnight stirrup
#

instead of being black

drifting quest
#

nezzsalem

dry kindle
amber vapor
#

If we get an actual vampire Sarkaz that's a goth... Omfg it will be the first time I ever spend more than $10 on a gacha

midnight stirrup
#

worthwhile trade off

outer ermine
#

PerliWaaaaa someone mod lr skin tymuch

drifting quest
#

king of the withered court, god of death, champion of the sudarim

midnight stirrup
#

last rite in rain

#

oh my days

ripe parrot
#

please hurry up and make more money i need artifice please please please

midnight stirrup
#

arknights cooks with char designs icl

#

i rarely like chars in hoyo and wuwa

#

ive liked most in here

#

ig im an arknights shill

drifting quest
#

not a vampire

amber vapor