#theorycrafting

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drifting quest
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where's your 4th melting flame stack coming from in gilb

twilit quail
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Ive always believed in the pure stat stack gilb

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personally

drifting quest
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wulf ake skill wulf combo 3

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wait for sp for 4th

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then wait for sp to consume

twilit quail
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all the timelines so far just rely on wulf ult lol

drifting quest
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yeah

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lmao

ocean hawk
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im sorry, I already checked again its just the 6 star rate

twilit quail
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for 0 energy start it is

ocean hawk
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not all rarity

twilit quail
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tricky

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to say the least

drifting quest
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0 energy start

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wulf ult

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the thinker

twilit quail
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but like

terse furnace
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It's just amusing seeing so many people say Gilb is worse than Ardelia while forgetting that Gilb has her own niche

twilit quail
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this unit's actual home

drifting quest
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i thought you were talking about prestacked

twilit quail
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is obviously not with lae

torn raft
drifting quest
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idk who gilb is actually meant for

torn raft
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all good, it's annoying to calculate so wondering if the work has already been done lol

drifting quest
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surely not yv*nne

twilit quail
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but I hope she fits into future electric

oak sorrel
drifting quest
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fangyi could be nature flavour

twilit quail
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fangyi is like the utility stick with a bit of nature

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mi fu is the outlet

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we play mi fu fangyi gilb arclight

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that's the dream

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at least

tight haven
summer flower
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avyenna has decent dmg

tight haven
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wulfs just ult gaming

terse furnace
summer flower
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like she is less invested and kicks ass even with just left over SP

drifting quest
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non monument team then

ripe parrot
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wulf ult is just his 2nd combo skill

summer flower
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spear stacked hit hard

drifting quest
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why not just do the laev ult starter then

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might as well

torn raft
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or actually running the pull simulator 10k times could give an accurate number lmao @ocean hawk

drifting quest
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you're prestacked 4/4 ults

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stew meeting'd it up

ocean hawk
twilit quail
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you know what I would like to see in this game

ocean hawk
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did u have other site that doesnt have limit

twilit quail
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guaranteed crits on some things

ripe parrot
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is there even a scenario where you wouldn't prestack ults

tight haven
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if they were gonna add that they would have with yvonne

drifting quest
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umbral monument

tight haven
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lowkey

drifting quest
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you get forced to 0

ocean hawk
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in the future

twilit quail
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fk that

torn raft
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I do not, probably mass collecting the data is easier to get a number

twilit quail
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I dont want crit in this game

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to be the standard

ocean hawk
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eh ?

tight haven
torn raft
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i just assume it's around 500-600 anyways

ocean hawk
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by gear artificing i mean

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not by default

ripe parrot
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honestly i wish they'd either let us never prestack ults or give us full ult energy at the start

tight haven
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no

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even then

twilit quail
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crit gear in this game is dogshit

ripe parrot
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so we don't have to cheese every re:crisis fight

twilit quail
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and crit innately scales bad

ocean hawk
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ah

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we cant change the cd no ?

twilit quail
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the only thing we can do with it is eat food that has it as part of its effects

ocean hawk
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its permanently on 50% ?

drifting quest
twilit quail
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and then pray that big hits land on 16% crit

drifting quest
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its depressing

twilit quail
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it's very unproductive to go for crit on anyone that isnt yvonne

drifting quest
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its not 5% its 50%
you either hit it or you dont

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one more reset

tight haven
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if you can hit 100% cc on most dpses with low gear commit then it becomes standard and thats cringe

ocean hawk
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ah, I almost got into chen crit on some point

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but I doubt it

torn raft
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in an extended fight crit is just another dmg modifier

ripe parrot
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crits are for thumbnails only

twilit quail
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she uses ginseng soup

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with ascent

tight haven
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not in monument she doesnt

twilit quail
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but even then

tight haven
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๐Ÿ‘

twilit quail
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she is using normal set

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and you just have to gamble on 35%

drifting quest
tight haven
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oh are they

drifting quest
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slap one of the buffing ones on

ocean hawk
tight haven
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sick

drifting quest
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someone here posted patch notes about it

ocean hawk
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and it doesnt have guarantee

drifting quest
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they made it easier

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and allowed tacticals

torn raft
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im right

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just attack more

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and it averages out

dry kindle
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What's next no time limit

ripe parrot
twilit quail
drifting quest
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50 MORE STEW MEETING

twilit quail
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go do your meat route!

ocean hawk
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well out to the farm u go

twilit quail
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five, hundred, stew meetings

ocean hawk
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but isnt the limit in 1 game is 4 tactical

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per op

dry kindle
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Time to make seperate categories for stew and stewless speedruns

ripe parrot
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let me out of the meat mines please

twilit quail
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Ive accumulated almost 1000 insect meat already

valid zealot
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My world level been at 1 for quite some time now.

twilit quail
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now I just need to

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also acquire the regular meat

valid zealot
ocean hawk
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btw iana, what things affected by lower world level

ripe parrot
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i don't want to reroute my ziplines for only meat

dry kindle
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Iana can you call slab dogshit in the sheet okty

twilit quail
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the game tells you just go look in the game's description

twilit quail
twilit quail
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no one will read

dry kindle
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But at least I can spam it until they do

ocean hawk
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can I change it back to 7 again after farming

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coz it only stated need 24 hours to go lower again

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not back up

twilit quail
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yeah before you pull it back up

valid zealot
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Also back up.

twilit quail
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do your run for the day

ocean hawk
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ah

twilit quail
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and then change it

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god, I hope physical doesnt change gear again soon!

normal tangle
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whose gear is more important here (laeva team)

high finch
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man,resources are so limited. i just spend like 240 stam for character exp and lvl only from 70 to 82

normal tangle
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i only have resources to promote 1 of them enough to get yellow gear

high finch
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it's horrendous

ripe parrot
twilit quail
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is it actually akekuri? no way

normal tangle
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60->80

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the one that unlocks equipping yellow

twilit quail
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cause there is the sp refund set in purple, right

drifting quest
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i need to finish p0 wulf gear calcs

ripe parrot
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probably akekuri

twilit quail
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and that's good

drifting quest
ripe parrot
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wulf is usable with 50 sp reset gear

drifting quest
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

normal tangle
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does wulf even use his skill ever erm

drifting quest
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starting rot yeah

normal tangle
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oh i start with ake

drifting quest
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or i should say

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0 > 4 stack, no ardelia skill

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uses wulf skill

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no ult

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having ult or wanting ard skill doesnt need it

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you can use his over akekuris i guess

strong warren
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ok now that enough time has passed is lynx slab real or fake

valid zealot
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Fake.

drifting quest
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fake

strong warren
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ik she gets ult with 3 combo rot with lynx slab and tidefall is 2 combo rot

twilit quail
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the gains are so minute and the situations it is better in so rare

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that it doesnt pay for itself at all

valid zealot
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It's fake don't question much.

twilit quail
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you are getting like

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1% extra dmg

valid zealot
twilit quail
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for the cost of full artifice on two extra pieces

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and it is only usable occasionally

dry kindle
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It's not even better for rhod speedruns

twilit quail
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in one comp

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and if you just switch to a better comp

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it's worse again

strong warren
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ok cool i will keep artificing then

twilit quail
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I still cant believe anyone recommended this shit in any capacity

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it's deeply unserious

strong warren
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the full energy regen set is also mid?

twilit quail
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ok so the energy set

drifting quest
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ITS STILL ON PRYDWEN

twilit quail
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is good

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but how good exactly

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is hard to say

drifting quest
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THEY UPDATED AND ITS STILL THERE

outer ermine
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PerliDerp 200k more

drifting quest
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which energy set

strong warren
drifting quest
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do you mean the 50sp refund one

twilit quail
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207.7% for lae

drifting quest
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oh

twilit quail
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cause it's entirely fight dependent

drifting quest
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yeah its good

strong warren
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i've only ever heard people say its comfy

drifting quest
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i just dont know if its better

twilit quail
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but it offers really clear advantages

drifting quest
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theres so many use cases where one is better than the other

twilit quail
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and let the character do things she could never hope to with hot work

tight haven
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its comfy and scales very positively with p5 laev

twilit quail
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at the very least

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it is worth considering

drifting quest
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but the idea of having 2 fully artificed sets for laev is like

normal tangle
drifting quest
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so ass

twilit quail
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even for p0

normal tangle
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what gear does ake use

tight haven
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because p4 lets you use hot work gloves

twilit quail
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yeah it's just artificing cost

drifting quest
tight haven
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and p5 gives your ebatks even better scaling

drifting quest
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artificed

dry kindle
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Just win the artifice lottery

ripe parrot
dry kindle
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Smh

twilit quail
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but yeah if you have p5

drifting quest
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frontier is ASS

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i can say with certainty

twilit quail
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you would have to be unwell to not use this

tight haven
drifting quest
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that set is not worth it

strong warren
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who has p5 bruh

twilit quail
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I do!

dry kindle
strong warren
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skull

twilit quail
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and I love that shit

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it's so good

normal tangle
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my ass does NOT have the funds to artifice twin

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i'm looking for like barebones shit

tight haven
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wait

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dude

twilit quail
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unquestionably good for p4 and above

strong warren
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on er set do can i not skill any more in ult

tight haven
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forbidden tech

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pog sig on ake

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to proc xiran

twilit quail
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it doesnt work

drifting quest
tight haven
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why would you do this? well

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IT DOESNT?

ripe parrot
twilit quail
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cause the sig buff

strong warren
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yeah idk if thats fun

twilit quail
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is a named effect

drifting quest
tight haven
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fuck off

twilit quail
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and not a suscept/weaken etc

dry kindle
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How tf are they getting these numbers

twilit quail
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Im pretty sure that's just like

twilit quail
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really incorrect

tight haven
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by like 10%

drifting quest
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like fortmaker + full ult gain akekuri is so close to 1 ult every rot

twilit quail
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I dont know what the agenda could be

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for them to do this

dry kindle
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Its like

tight haven
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its definitely more like 75%

dry kindle
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75% dpsp

tight haven
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yea

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scathe is really fucking good

rare rover
tight haven
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just the best possible stats in a weapon for her

rare rover
twilit quail
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I do have to salute the HG numerical designers

strong warren
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is akekuri bis on her over ardelia

twilit quail
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for making the BP sig replacements

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so precisely shitty

ripe parrot
strong warren
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i saw some people saying that

tight haven
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they are infuriatingly mid options

twilit quail
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so part fo it

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is the xiranite and frontier nerfs

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MASSIVE nerfs

manic blade
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I do NOT know what to artifice anymore

tight haven
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gilb sig is too good, laev sig is too good, yvonne sig lets you pretend shes good

twilit quail
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in cbt3

ripe parrot
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wait when were they nerfed

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oh

twilit quail
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we were using antal wulf ake

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because ake was insane unit

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and then on release we were like

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oh

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maybe we should use ard

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but now we're back to ake

ripe parrot
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the ult was nerfed by like 20?

tight haven
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more than?

twilit quail
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xiranite and frontier were nerfed on live

ripe parrot
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no way her ult costed 90

dry kindle
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Explodes

twilit quail
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they were +atk% in cbt

tight haven
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ake ult used to regen a ton

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oh

dry kindle
twilit quail
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and now they are +dmg%

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which is

dry kindle
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100 cost 300 sp cbt2

twilit quail
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SO much worse

tight haven
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yea

dry kindle
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Mild cinema

urban ferry
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@dry kindle when's the next patch

No content, no end game PotatoSad

tight haven
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ake ult was silly

ripe parrot
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wow that's insane

twilit quail
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yeah they took akekuri out back

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shot her in the head

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and then she woke up again

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to still take the slot in the team

tight haven
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shes still like rly good

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300 sp was just unreasonable

twilit quail
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also uhh

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thermite

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really good

tight haven
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rapid ascent nerfs were like

twilit quail
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thermite user good

tight haven
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imo the least deserved nerfs

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going into live

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now its like a sunder sidegrade unless you have high pot rapid

twilit quail
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yeah

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and it kinda sucks

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because it's such a lovely visual design

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however

tight haven
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i still think grand vision on chen is kind of trolling

twilit quail
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the nefarious and underhanded box cutter:

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I mean hey

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we are shelving fucking pog sig

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for fortmaker

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weirder things have happened

tight haven
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pog sig is actually just kind of shit

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because he does not do damage

ripe parrot
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i was very whelmed with pog sig

twilit quail
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the concerted effort

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to trick people into thinking this character should deal damage

tight haven
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dude i thought he was like

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a great dps in cbt2

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because i checked his like, maxed stats in the banner

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and i was like wait a second hes better than lifeng

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holy fuck no

twilit quail
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the lifeng case is so funny

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because that unit is

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he is kind of thanos

tight haven
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he needs 90/90

twilit quail
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when you pump him up

tight haven
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is the only thing

twilit quail
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he's fucking insane

safe sand
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and sig ofc

tight haven
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bc of his goddamn talent

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giving him nutty ass scaling

manic blade
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trying to optimize power cycles is hurting my head

tight haven
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id p5 his sig if a p5 weapon didnt cost as much as a fucking p5 op

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LOL

high finch
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can someone's sig pop up in the shop for 2400?

twilit quail
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his p5 is also demonic

drifting quest
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only as much? cheaper than i thought

tight haven
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YEAH I WANT HIM P5 BAAAAAD

twilit quail
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and p4 gives him

tight haven
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id settle for p4 tbh

twilit quail
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such insane gearing options

tight haven
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just to try alternate sets

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yep

fringe dirge
dry kindle
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๐Ÿ’€

drifting quest
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i just want a single copy of pog to play physical man

safe sand
tight haven
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let me lose a 50/50 to lifeng

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cope

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wouldnt mind p1 gilb i suppose

high finch
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very happy abt that

tight haven
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i just never use her bskill though

tight haven
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as long as i keep avoiding ember im good

outer ermine
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does ake have use in lr speedruns PerliFumo may or may not want to use ny thermite

twilit quail
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yeah

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link for ult

valid zealot
twilit quail
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thermite

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link is a really fucked up effect

outer ermine
high finch
tight haven
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free 1.2x on top of everything

twilit quail
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can be better than perlica

drifting quest
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the game deprived me of both the 2 characters that have fun and interesting team comp applications

tight haven
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yippee

twilit quail
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somewhat surprisingly

rare rover
tight haven
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start boarding up your house bud

rare rover
tight haven
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can gilb fucking get here already

tight haven
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i need her sig bruh

valid zealot
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I'm endfielding it.

high finch
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man i want lifeng p3. it's like all his attributes are secondary now

drifting quest
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giving people yvonne early and then bricking her because her sig is over a month out

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is honestly peak

twilit quail
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the moment physical gets their hands on a proper fucking output

high finch
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i feel like his ceiling is so high. inb4 8k atk lifeng

tight haven
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as much as i think da pan is really funny i will be glad to be rid of him

outer ermine
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guess i need another frontier PerliWaaaaa

tight haven
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or maybe chen will get the boot

rare rover
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getting rid of the panda? blasphemy

drifting quest
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oh yeah

high finch
drifting quest
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does arclight run frontier

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surely

twilit quail
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it's 50/50 between that and charge

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for her as well

drifting quest
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if she doesnt run frontier

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than is that not every holder dropped it

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or well

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xaihi

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lmao

tight haven
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i gotta stop logging into endfield

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i keep thinking theres something i have to do and there just isnt

rare rover
tight haven
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LOL

rare rover
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etchnspace salvage speaks to you

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aurylene speaks to you

safe sand
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hmm ardelia > lifeng in phys if no sig?

tight haven
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already done ๐Ÿ’”

rare rover
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chests speak to you

tight haven
torn raft
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Gotta grab the recycling

drifting quest
rare rover
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quests speak to you

tight haven
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if you have valiant hes fine

safe sand
tight haven
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oh

safe sand
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yeah

tight haven
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prooooobably still lifeng?

twilit quail
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at one point I was opening and closing the game so often just to check singular things

tight haven
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hes just not very good at damage

twilit quail
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and then I realised

safe sand
twilit quail
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no I should just keep it open lmao

tight haven
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which is fine

tight haven
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he'll walk it off

safe sand
drifting quest
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i mald when i get logged out for inactivity while sheeting

twilit quail
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I have a good pc so it is ok, and I can run several games at once

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but I'm goign to be in china for a while

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so I'm stuck with laptop

tight haven
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well you still have a raised dapan/endmin right

high finch
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should i buy lifeng sign if it appears for 2400? instead of valiant?

twilit quail
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and might have to use wiki for stuff

tight haven
twilit quail
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hm is it that much better than valiant

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wait let me

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run a calc

tight haven
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i cba to calc it out

torn raft
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Itll be in store for 2400 after a year

high finch
tight haven
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but yeah if you want a sig and its sitting there for 2400 then grab it

twilit quail
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Im gonna run it at

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p5 with alt set from p4

tight haven
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i doubt perm sigs will come to the shop though

twilit quail
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90/90

torn raft
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Thermite cutter will come to the shop tho probably

tight haven
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yeah def

rare rover
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they should allows u to select what tokens u wana exchange in shop ngl, i dont wana exchange certain tokens PerliDerp

tight haven
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matter of time

manic blade
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do we know how long it takes to get laeva ult with 2 cycle roughly

twilit quail
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oh fuck me

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that is like

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a 42% performance increase

tight haven
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from sig?

twilit quail
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yep

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compared to valiant

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isnt that insane?

tight haven
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well shit

jovial grove
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how much do i artifice energy on tidal surge on sutr

high finch
twilit quail
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at p5

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to be sure

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probably a fair bit less at p0

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but wow

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that's way more than I expected

fringe dirge
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I hope they make more ult gain sets that aren't tied to External Xiranite because I'm going through it

drifting quest
tight haven
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wonder when we'll get new gear anyway

high finch
twilit quail
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it sucks that the other weapons on his sig's banner

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are not good

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oh yeah with p3

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it's unbelievable

torn raft
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Probably comes with new wuling zone

tight haven
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all of lifengs pots are kinds nuts besides p2

twilit quail
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28% extra in all 4 stats

high finch
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okay i'm getting lifeng sign if it ever appears in the shop

twilit quail
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that's like

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4 lynx slabs

tight haven
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p1 opens up different rots
p3 is a huge increase
p4 opens up new gear setups
p5 is a huge increase

high finch
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is it lifeng supremacy?

tight haven
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idt many ops can claim to have that many good pots

tight haven
rare rover
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p1 is a bit of allowance
p3 is a nice date out
p5 is a full weeks paycheck

twilit quail
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the more I did maths on this team

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the more I realised

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how good this unit was

high finch
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prydwen put him in t1

dry kindle
tight haven
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my biggest L take in cbt was calling him weak

fringe dirge
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I'm wondering if Fortmaker on Alesh to have him ult every single rotation is worth giving up Thermite cutter team boost

high finch
twilit quail
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it started when I like

tight haven
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i just needed to get pog

twilit quail
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ran the 4/8 calcs

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and realised that he was still doing 20% of the team's dmg with 3x xiranite

high finch
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same tier as yvonne

twilit quail
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which is absolutely ludicrous

jovial grove
fringe dirge
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I could also thermite cutter on Chen and ruin her personal damage

tight haven
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soon soon

twilit quail
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chen is too good to kill personal damage on

jovial grove
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chen does dmg?

twilit quail
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yeah 30% of team rotation dmg

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this is a unit

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that can solo rhodan in 105s

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5* btw

safe sand
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aspirant ๐Ÿฅ€

twilit quail
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aspirant is the biggest fucking scam ever

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it's not good at all

jovial grove
twilit quail
tight haven
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bring back rapid ascent

summer flower
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surtur doesnt count

twilit quail
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surtr has a sub 50 solo

fringe dirge
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Chen just has cracked multipliers and a good combo skill

summer flower
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everyone knows solution with surtur is easy mode

jovial grove
tight haven
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laev with precharge kills everything tbf

summer flower
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its been like this before even game was made

summer flower
tight haven
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she just. needs precharge

jovial grove
summer flower
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pre-eat

jovial grove
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with food on sutr but no precahrge 150s

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with most time being charing of the ult

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so i can use it phase two

twilit quail
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wow ok so pog p3 is

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taking almost three full cycles

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to ramp up get 40 intensity

jovial grove
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ye i casted ult on 90s

twilit quail
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that is... hm

jovial grove
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well 100

twilit quail
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wow this guy stinks

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he only has one good pot

tight haven
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yeah pogs pots smell

twilit quail
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I didnt realise it was this bad

jovial grove
tight haven
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they literally couldnt decide what to do with him

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it seems like

dire nymph
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is everyones p4 just -15% ult cost

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or

tight haven
outer ermine
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so ake just ults? PerliWheeze

dire nymph
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fairs

jovial grove
twilit quail
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tight haven
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Frontline Sweep
Battle skill The Pulverizing Front improved: When hitting at least 2 enemies, 15 SP is returned.

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hitting at least 2 enemies ๐Ÿ‘

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for 15(!!!) sp

twilit quail
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dont worry guys

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endmin will get 50% perf increase pot next

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and save the physical society

fresh lynx
#

is avywenna having her basic attacks being physical super goofy? would it make no difference if you leave her basic attack at lv 1 vs 9?

twilit quail
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it would mean you cant do finisher with her

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cause you are not getting buffs of elemental

safe sand
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ok so like if my lifeng is hot ass do i just use chen's skills instead

twilit quail
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some other characters have it like this as well

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I dont know why

jovial grove
fresh lynx
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i feel like it kinda makes her feel like an incomplete limit

twilit quail
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it's weird

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but the unit is decent for what she is

fresh lynx
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wouldnt it make sense if one of her potentials converted her basic attacks to elemental?

dire nymph
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can i just do 90/90 chen lifeng pan and leave pog to chill

tight haven
twilit quail
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so I would chalk it up to an oversight more than anything else

tight haven
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literally getting hard gated by rng

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rn

drifting quest
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sightreading would you rather have
66% atk% via stat + 62% arts%
or
24.8% atk% via stat + 29% external atk%

for wulfgard

i cant tell at a glance and dont want to put the effort into calcs if i dont have to

tight haven
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100 essences only for it to still look like this

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im going to die

twilit quail
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Im being owned by gilb essence rn

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30 etch and no success on any skill of 3/3/1

tight haven
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๐Ÿ’”

twilit quail
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but at least I got it I guess

tight haven
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goddamn

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yeah the etch rng fucked me so hard

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LOL

jovial grove
tight haven
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i was adamant on not spending coolant on twilight

drifting quest
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obj wulf lets you run 3p bonekrusha at p0 and hit the reduced ult gain breakpoint
but then you lose clannibal and have to run obj

gritty olive
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coolant?

tight haven
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i think +3 took me 50 essences

tight haven
gritty olive
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i used mine already SkadiDaijoubu

twilit quail
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bonecrusher ICANT

gritty olive
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like for +4 -> +5

drifting quest
tight haven
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you get 10 per fail and spend it to guarantee a level up

gritty olive
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ok

twilit quail
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I mean losing clannibal is like

torn raft
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Might as well farm for higher bases if u dont have a lot of essences before etching

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Excluding surtr sig

tight haven
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clannibal is kinda whatever if you csn smooth out your rots

twilit quail
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actually losing clannibal in wulf antal ake

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is kinda bad

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hm

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this is tricky

tight haven
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speedrunning moment

twilit quail
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I mean none of this will ever be relevant to me cause my wulf is p5

drifting quest
twilit quail
safe sand
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hmm @twilit quail would you use p0 sundering over p0 aspirant

twilit quail
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oh absolutely

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do you want some calcs on this

drifting quest
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if you dont run obj you have to run like a kit and gloves

safe sand
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if you have them on hand i would love to see them

twilit quail
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cause I did them at one point to prove a point

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hang on

drifting quest
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obj lets you get enough ult gain to hit the breakpoint off body alone

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i could see how much stat you lose as well i guess

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that might make it closer

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i have a feeling obj is the angle though

safe sand
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oh im reading sundering again and its an atk gain

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that makes a lot more sense

halcyon aurora
drifting quest
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lifeng is just him

tight haven
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some really do

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laevs pots are nuts

torn raft
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It depends as they always say

rare rover
tight haven
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meanwhile 0 of pogs pots matter

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at least it seems this way

tight haven
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also no pots dramatically alter kits

summer flower
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died in re-crisis because i miss pressed buttons

twilit quail
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ok so

tight haven
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the biggest changes are like laev p5 allowing ult to extend and wulf p5 resetting his combo

rare rover
twilit quail
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instead of giving you my awful looking

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rainbow graph

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have a look at this

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this is comparison between p5 sundering

safe sand
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my rainbow graph...

twilit quail
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and p0 ascent

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here when p0 ascent is the base of 100%

dry kindle
twilit quail
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we can see that p5 steel in here

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is doing 490k

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you know how much aspirant does here

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at p5

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385k

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it's not even fucking close

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aspirant is not good at all

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oh god

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oh fuck

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NO

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NO

safe sand
#

?

twilit quail
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ANOTHER POG SET JUST DROPPED

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GOD DAMN IT

safe sand
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

dry kindle
dire nymph
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no way

dry kindle
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What now

safe sand
#

back to the mines with you ig

ocean hawk
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HUH ?

ripe parrot
rare rover
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say what now PerliStareYou

dry kindle
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Is it another arts intensity setup

summer flicker
twilit quail
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ok

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it was a false alarm

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it is a degenerate speedrunning setup

drifting quest
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lmao

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i tabbed back in

twilit quail
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with eminent repute

drifting quest
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defcon 1

twilit quail
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of all things

rare rover
twilit quail
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we're alright

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it's fine

ocean hawk
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we safe

rare rover
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booo make them suffer drop a proper set

ocean hawk
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for now

twilit quail
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it is a set for speedrunning dorito

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with stew meeting

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we're fine

summer flower
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lets see new time

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after food

rare rover
twilit quail
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I cant believe this weapon is usable somewhere though wow

safe sand
summer flower
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193

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ehh

twilit quail
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basically, crush is not enough of the damage% to be worth using over more stats

summer flower
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what was my last time ?

twilit quail
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endmin has to do 4/4

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you can only fit one 4 stack crush into the pog breach

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and so the ult is taking up much more of the dmg%

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and the intensity is not worth it anymore

summer flower
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ohh okay that was 100 sec diff

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1/3rd

safe sand
summer flower
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so i'm missing like 80 sec out of 200

twilit quail
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actually

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hm

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I should probably revise the maths on shatter

summer flower
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i think type 50 on endmin isnt it

safe sand
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optimizing dogshit teams you love to see it

twilit quail
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I will actually go back and check when I feel like it

high finch
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i wonder how much atk would lifeng have on p3 with his sign buff

twilit quail
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because Im not sure which is better at 90/90

safe sand
twilit quail
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the primary concern with aethertech for endmin in other situations is that

summer flower
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dunno, werent they talking about that set being for endmin?

twilit quail
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it is usually only slightly better in damage or equal

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but loses the stagger that swordmancer has

safe sand
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i guess it would then just depend on your rotation/the boss(?)

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to hit key stagger points

summer flower
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i could try sword mancer but i doubt its gonna be that good

twilit quail
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one big factor

safe sand
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idk i just feel like arts intensity being its own multiplier is too good to pass on if you're crushing every rotation

twilit quail
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is, uh

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how many rare fish alesh hits

safe sand
twilit quail
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cause if youre hitting rare fish swordmancer is way better

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oh dude

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if we're hitting every rare

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swordmancer to the moon

summer flower
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rare fish?

dry kindle
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Just win

safe sand
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interesting

dry kindle
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P3

twilit quail
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I think the last time I was doing this

dry kindle
twilit quail
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and this is a vibes-based calculation

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not a rigorous mathematic one

safe sand
twilit quail
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if alesh hits approximately 50% of the time

ripe parrot
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i mean to be fair alesh is vibes-based in general

twilit quail
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swordmancer has like a 5-7% advantage for shatter

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but if he hits 100% of the time

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ooh

summer flower
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ehh

twilit quail
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now we're cooking

safe sand
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the aethertech set effect is pretty doggy doodoo for endmin its true

summer flower
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okay, my team is endmin chen perlica + avyenna

twilit quail
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honestly if you think about it

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endmin is kind of just surtr

safe sand
high finch
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but

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at some point we get p5 endmin

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might be something cool there

twilit quail
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think about it, right

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needs others to apply stacks

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has a weapon with (attribute)(atk%)(lots of dmg% amp)

safe sand
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no point in theorycrafting over the next pot (+15 agility +8% physical damage)

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trust

summer flower
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man

twilit quail
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I mean 15 agility

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might actually be enough to tip it over lmao

summer flower
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15 agility? +8% phys dmg?

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that's quite nice

twilit quail
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to where endmin is probably on roughly the same standing as da pan

high finch
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btw both endmins potentials are pretty good

twilit quail
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but yeah it's very possible

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that the next pot is better than the usual pot

rare rover
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man i like pot PerliFumo

high finch
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what if all endmin pots will be unique

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and last one is just

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something insane

twilit quail
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it's not impossible

drifting quest
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ok i think thats the set options you'd reasonably consider

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unreadable sheet moment

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realistically i dont know if arts intensity or combo damage is more valuable till i look at arts burst scaling

twilit quail
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oh dude

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someone suggested to me

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that we WILL get a new rarity of gear soon

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but we'll get only get to equip one piece

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that's an interesting idea

summer flower
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man

drifting quest
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it'd be cool but

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it'd make sheeting so much more annoying to start with lmao

jovial grove
safe sand
twilit quail
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pog's set is so getting replaced

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in 1.1 man

drifting quest
#

feelscrafting alone i would guess the best p0 wulf lineup is like
clannibal + frontiers t1 armor + lynx gloves + xiranite power core + hot work power bank

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but man does that look

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so sketch

jovial grove
short pivot
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Is sundering steel the bis weapon for Chen?

twilit quail
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p5 sundering steel > p0 ascent

jovial grove
twilit quail
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and it's way better than aspirant as well

short pivot
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Oh p5

twilit quail
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p0 steel is about 4% worse

drifting quest
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for non p5 wulfgard

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2 combos 6 team skills

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or 2 rots

dry kindle
dry kindle
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Inb4 we actually get exotics and prydwen still recommend slab

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๐Ÿ”ฅ

high finch
drifting quest
#

RED SLAB

twilit quail
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it's possible, but we can't really know ahead of time

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if it happens we'll just have to

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deal with it as it comes

summer flower
#

trusting guides

outer ermine
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120ult cost is a pain in the ass to fill PerliDerp mfs gonna eat all my stew

summer flower
#

you serious?

dry kindle
twilit quail
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evil slab

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that actually has the right stats

dry kindle
#

Still explode from cringe because hotwork chest

twilit quail
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and doesnt fuck your rotation

drifting quest
twilit quail
twilit quail
#

seal but evil

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decreaes your charge rate

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but has like 120 int

drifting quest
#

the t1 variant is just
secondary stat
main stat
secondary stat %

twilit quail
#

๐Ÿ”ฅ

summer flower
#

half critical rate is your +% dmg as raw

dry kindle
drifting quest
#

evil seal just applies the arclight modifier to everything

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half ult charge generated

twilit quail
#

god i want to see next patch already

drifting quest
#

5 sp a combo, 3.25sp a skill

twilit quail
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just to see how the teams develop

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it's been ages since I've felt like this about a game

dry kindle
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Nothing ever happens

summer flower
#

so if i slap crit +10%

twilit quail
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you know what i mean

summer flower
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that's about 5% dmg increase

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that has 0 diminsihng returns

drifting quest
#

we need to stop counting time to next patch in terms of days and start counting in terms of how many new pog sets are left

safe sand
safe sand
twilit quail
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how many new mental illnesses

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I swear it has to be exhausted, right? there are only so many gear pieces and weapons in the game

dry kindle
#

How many dumbass prydwen builds

drifting quest
summer flower
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10% * 50% is 5%

twilit quail
#

this is just random bullshit go

drifting quest
#

cnbros cook just as badly as we do

twilit quail
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someone's gonna post a run

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with crit set chen

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Im feeling it

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Im smelling it in the air

dry kindle
summer flower
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i'm already running crit set chen

ocean hawk
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WOHOOOO

twilit quail
#

oh dear

drifting quest
#

if you think about it the crit set is kinda useless if you just run 3p bonekrusha and always hit the 5%

ocean hawk
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im just working with the broken build

twilit quail
#

with the fucked up double power bank?

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at least it worked

#

good enough!

ocean hawk
#

no, still the old one

summer flower
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ohhh yea just crit with 5%

ocean hawk
#

I didnt have the resources yet to fix it

twilit quail
#

oh

ocean hawk
#

im broke

summer flower
#

common how many curshes you have in battle?

twilit quail
#

well a clear is a clear

blazing lake
#

@rare rover gathered every single piece of farmable lot and missing 12 origi from the BP

summer flower
#

4? 4 crushes

ocean hawk
#

but i still cant do the doritos

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i think i need the proper build for that ?

twilit quail
#

dorito is tricky

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for this team

summer flower
#

0.00000625 chance to hit every 5% crit on crush

ocean hawk
#

i hate when that triangle go invisible

twilit quail
#

I can go uhh

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do some labbing

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I guess

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I play physical on someone else's account

ocean hawk
#

i usually use lifeng skill to make him appear

tight haven
#

triagg is rly fucking annoying for phys because of their stack reliance

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cant exactly detonate stacks when the fucking thing

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cleanses itself

ocean hawk
#

but sometimes it a waste of sp

tight haven
#

add phase is just satan

#

hate adds

ocean hawk
#

and tbh, lifeng gather for the 2nd phase kinda meh

#

it misses 1 or 2 small enemies

tight haven
#

wasting lifeng ult on the adds feels so bad

ocean hawk
#

but well, I dont have gather

tight haven
#

just kill your rot speed to do this dumbass phase faster ๐Ÿ‘

ocean hawk
#

should I waste pog ult instead with its worse gather

twilit quail
#

so long as you are not overflowing on SP from it

#

it's not really wasted

#

pog ult is not actually a necessary part of the rotation

ocean hawk
#

so i can waste it ?

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for the gather

twilit quail
#

you probably should yeah

#

cause it doesnt need to be fit into the same place in the rotation every time, right

summer flower
#

so who is carry for electric team?

ocean hawk
#

aight

tight haven
twilit quail
#

so long as you gain the necessary SP each cycle

summer flower
#

and what does arclight in setup?

ocean hawk
#

gotcha, im gonna try using old build first, coz I want to use my resources for 2nd team (fixing phys is...... well with the gear situation rn is kinda.....)

tight haven
#

elec reaction forcer to boost avy's burst

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sp regen

rare rover
summer flower
#

ehhh perlica is better for that

balmy jay
#

chat, what do these stuff do

summer flower
#

and i think perlica is only one you need

rare rover
blazing lake
balmy jay
#

what stat should I look out for

tight haven
#

who are you replacing arc with

blazing lake
#

impulse gambling

rare rover
rare rover
drifting quest
#

fake

balmy jay
#

too slow gg

drifting quest
#

i explained in qna

balmy jay
#

well u are more active in here so

#

more likely that u see it

#

om

summer flower
#

guys

#

Antal

#

for endmin team

#

endmin chen + antal

drifting quest
#

to do what

#

what is antal doing

#

im curious

summer flower
#

phys status copy

drifting quest
#

once every 24 seconds

glad niche
summer flower
#

ohh that's long cooldown damn

manic blade
#

only 5 trim medals available rn? 6 when event drops?

manic blade
#

oh-

outer ermine
#

damn link is funni, i did not expect to almost 2 hit kill w ult on dorito phase 1 PerliWheeze

rare rover
#

Rhodagn 120
Triagellos 240
Marble 240
Stock Redistribution 500% markup
Depot Delivery 20 perfect factory goods
Valley development 12
Weapon Skill 25 upgraded

safe sand
magic stream
#

In theory

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We could make a whole ahh song

#

Like the kroos one

rare rover
#

in theory

#

chen qianyu is peak

manic blade
drifting quest
#

does arts burst consider the stacks before the application or after
as in 1 stack > apply second > arts burst
is the arts burst calced with 1 or 2 stacks

twilit quail
#

youtube short upload of a cropped bilibili video

manic blade
#

depot node one I get tmrw...

twilit quail
#

๐Ÿ’”

rare rover
#

juicy trims im just missing the depot

magic stream
dire nymph
#

i feel like thereโ€™ll be a new pog set later

summer flower
#

been a while

twilit quail
blazing lake