#theorycrafting
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all the timelines so far just rely on wulf ult lol
im sorry, I already checked again its just the 6 star rate
for 0 energy start it is
not all rarity
but like
It's just amusing seeing so many people say Gilb is worse than Ardelia while forgetting that Gilb has her own niche
this unit's actual home
i thought you were talking about prestacked
is obviously not with lae

idk who gilb is actually meant for
all good, it's annoying to calculate so wondering if the work has already been done lol
surely not yv*nne
but I hope she fits into future electric
sheep
fangyi could be nature flavour
fangyi is like the utility stick with a bit of nature
mi fu is the outlet
we play mi fu fangyi gilb arclight
that's the dream
at least
ake bskill
wulf cskill
wulf ult
ake bskill
wulf cskill
laev n5
laev combo, gilb combo
avyenna has decent dmg
wulfs just ult gaming
I mean, we'll definitely get a Nature DPS in the future who can benefit from her nature infliction
like she is less invested and kicks ass even with just left over SP
non monument team then
wulf ult is just his 2nd combo skill
spear stacked hit hard
or actually running the pull simulator 10k times could give an accurate number lmao @ocean hawk
but the pull simulator on the site i use limited to 500 pulls
you know what I would like to see in this game
did u have other site that doesnt have limit
guaranteed crits on some things
is there even a scenario where you wouldn't prestack ults
if they were gonna add that they would have with yvonne
umbral monument
lowkey
you get forced to 0
cant we just have 100% cr ?
in the future
fk that
I do not, probably mass collecting the data is easier to get a number
eh ?
yvonne can hit 100% cr and only her
i just assume it's around 500-600 anyways
honestly i wish they'd either let us never prestack ults or give us full ult energy at the start
crit gear in this game is dogshit
so we don't have to cheese every re:crisis fight
and crit innately scales bad
the only thing we can do with it is eat food that has it as part of its effects
its permanently on 50% ?
and people are still resorting to critslop
and then pray that big hits land on 16% crit
its depressing
it's very unproductive to go for crit on anyone that isnt yvonne
if you can hit 100% cc on most dpses with low gear commit then it becomes standard and thats cringe
in an extended fight crit is just another dmg modifier
crits are for thumbnails only
not in monument she doesnt
but even then
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you say that but tacticals are allowed in monument now no
oh are they
slap one of the buffing ones on
bruh 1 out of 3 then
sick
someone here posted patch notes about it
and it doesnt have guarantee
What's next no time limit
noooooooooooooooooo that means we have to farm ult tacticals


50 MORE STEW MEETING
go do your meat route!
well out to the farm u go
five, hundred, stew meetings
Time to make seperate categories for stew and stewless speedruns
let me out of the meat mines please
Ive accumulated almost 1000 insect meat already
My world level been at 1 for quite some time now.

btw iana, what things affected by lower world level
i don't want to reroute my ziplines for only meat
Iana can you call slab dogshit in the sheet okty
the game tells you just go look in the game's description
too much text
no one will read
can I change it back to 7 again after farming
coz it only stated need 24 hours to go lower again
not back up
yeah before you pull it back up
Also back up.
do your run for the day
ah
whose gear is more important here (laeva team)
man,resources are so limited. i just spend like 240 stam for character exp and lvl only from 70 to 82
i only have resources to promote 1 of them enough to get yellow gear
it's horrendous
which promotion?
is it actually akekuri? no way
cause there is the sp refund set in purple, right
i need to finish p0 wulf gear calcs
probably akekuri
and that's good
50 sp once per fight
wulf is usable with 50 sp reset gear
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does wulf even use his skill ever 
starting rot yeah
oh i start with ake
or i should say
0 > 4 stack, no ardelia skill
uses wulf skill
no ult
having ult or wanting ard skill doesnt need it
you can use his over akekuris i guess
ok now that enough time has passed is lynx slab real or fake
Fake.
fake
ik she gets ult with 3 combo rot with lynx slab and tidefall is 2 combo rot
the gains are so minute and the situations it is better in so rare
that it doesnt pay for itself at all
It's fake don't question much.

for the cost of full artifice on two extra pieces
and it is only usable occasionally
It's not even better for rhod speedruns
ok cool i will keep artificing then
I still cant believe anyone recommended this shit in any capacity
it's deeply unserious
the full energy regen set is also mid?
Prydwen.
ok so the energy set
ITS STILL ON PRYDWEN
THEY UPDATED AND ITS STILL THERE
200k more
which energy set
good as in comfot or damage
do you mean the 50sp refund one
207.7% for lae
oh
cause it's entirely fight dependent
yeah its good
i've only ever heard people say its comfy
i just dont know if its better
but it offers really clear advantages
theres so many use cases where one is better than the other
and let the character do things she could never hope to with hot work
its comfy and scales very positively with p5 laev
but the idea of having 2 fully artificed sets for laev is like
ty btw
so ass
even for p0
what gear does ake use
because p4 lets you use hot work gloves
yeah it's just artificing cost
the same ult gain set laev runs
and p5 gives your ebatks even better scaling
artificed
Just win the artifice lottery
frontier mostly, but can work with xiranite
Smh
but yeah if you have p5
you would have to be unwell to not use this
she cant proc xiran
that set is not worth it
who has p5 bruh
I do!
Don't ask
skull
my ass does NOT have the funds to artifice twin
i'm looking for like barebones shit
unquestionably good for p4 and above
on er set do can i not skill any more in ult
it doesnt work
you do 1 skill, save 4 melting flame
there isn't a great set so ult eff is pretty much why you'd even run it
cause the sig buff
yeah idk if thats fun
is a named effect
fortmaker is an actual consideration for akekuri too
fuck off
and not a suscept/weaken etc
How tf are they getting these numbers
Im pretty sure that's just like
really incorrect
88% at p0 is overshooting
by like 10%
like fortmaker + full ult gain akekuri is so close to 1 ult every rot
Its like
its definitely more like 75%
75% dpsp

just the best possible stats in a weapon for her

I do have to salute the HG numerical designers
is akekuri bis on her over ardelia
how is frontier even bad considering the rest of the sets are... well, frankly also dogwater
i saw some people saying that
they are infuriatingly mid options
I do NOT know what to artifice anymore
gilb sig is too good, laev sig is too good, yvonne sig lets you pretend shes good
in cbt3
we were using antal wulf ake
because ake was insane unit
and then on release we were like
oh
maybe we should use ard
but now we're back to ake
the ult was nerfed by like 20?
more than?
xiranite and frontier were nerfed on live
no way her ult costed 90
Explodes
they were +atk% in cbt
Akekuri?
100 cost 300 sp cbt2
SO much worse
yea
Mild cinema
@dry kindle when's the next patch
No content, no end game 
ake ult was silly
wow that's insane
yeah they took akekuri out back
shot her in the head
and then she woke up again
to still take the slot in the team
rapid ascent nerfs were like
thermite user good
imo the least deserved nerfs
going into live
now its like a sunder sidegrade unless you have high pot rapid
i still think grand vision on chen is kind of trolling
the nefarious and underhanded box cutter:
I mean hey
we are shelving fucking pog sig
for fortmaker
weirder things have happened
i was very whelmed with pog sig
the concerted effort
to trick people into thinking this character should deal damage
dude i thought he was like
a great dps in cbt2
because i checked his like, maxed stats in the banner
and i was like wait a second hes better than lifeng
holy fuck no
he needs 90/90
when you pump him up
is the only thing
he's fucking insane
and sig ofc
trying to optimize power cycles is hurting my head
can someone's sig pop up in the shop for 2400?
his p5 is also demonic
only as much? cheaper than i thought
YEAH I WANT HIM P5 BAAAAAD
and p4 gives him
id settle for p4 tbh
such insane gearing options
https://youtu.be/Ih6CX96t6Ys?si=j73F29b3Ao6O6OlM
@twilit quail
I have got the Da Pan shatter rotation down, had to use that 58.7% ult gain rainbow set for Da Pan
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i just want a single copy of pog to play physical man
I mean we saw grand vision there
i just never use her bskill though
awesome
as long as i keep avoiding ember im good
does ake have use in lr speedruns
may or may not want to use ny thermite
500 Ember.

yeah but it's 1$. i don't know whose sign i want. maybe lifeng but i already have valiant it should be not much worse i guess
free 1.2x on top of everything
can be better than perlica
the game deprived me of both the 2 characters that have fun and interesting team comp applications
yippee
somewhat surprisingly
thats it u jynxed yourself your getting amber next
start boarding up your house bud

can gilb fucking get here already
i need her sig bruh
I'm endfielding it.
man i want lifeng p3. it's like all his attributes are secondary now
giving people yvonne early and then bricking her because her sig is over a month out
is honestly peak
the moment physical gets their hands on a proper fucking output
i feel like his ceiling is so high. inb4 8k atk lifeng
as much as i think da pan is really funny i will be glad to be rid of him
guess i need another frontier 
or maybe chen will get the boot
getting rid of the panda? blasphemy
oh yeah
i'll take another lifeng instead of yvonne
if she doesnt run frontier
than is that not every holder dropped it
or well
xaihi
lmao
i gotta stop logging into endfield
i keep thinking theres something i have to do and there just isnt
no keep logging on
LOL
hmm ardelia > lifeng in phys if no sig?
already done ๐
chests speak to you
lifeng doesnt need sig
Gotta grab the recycling
one more meat run
one more slug run
pick your ginseng
quests speak to you
if you have valiant hes fine
nor valiant
oh
yeah
prooooobably still lifeng?
at one point I was opening and closing the game so often just to check singular things
hes just not very good at damage
and then I realised
be so fr
no I should just keep it open lmao
which is fine
atp i might as well run shatter dude
i mald when i get logged out for inactivity while sheeting
I have a good pc so it is ok, and I can run several games at once
but I'm goign to be in china for a while
so I'm stuck with laptop
well you still have a raised dapan/endmin right
should i buy lifeng sign if it appears for 2400? instead of valiant?
and might have to use wiki for stuff
any wanted sig for 2400 is a steal
i cba to calc it out
Itll be in store for 2400 after a year
i guess if not on p1 but on p3 lifeng for sure should be
but yeah if you want a sig and its sitting there for 2400 then grab it
i doubt perm sigs will come to the shop though
90/90
Thermite cutter will come to the shop tho probably
yeah def
they should allows u to select what tokens u wana exchange in shop ngl, i dont wana exchange certain tokens 
matter of time
do we know how long it takes to get laeva ult with 2 cycle roughly
from sig?
well shit
how much do i artifice energy on tidal surge on sutr
i don't need anything atm. maybe only last rite sign but i don't like her. my fav team is phys. i even stopped lvling surtr team cause physical team is a lot more enjoyable for me and i also really like chen. so i'm thinking of picking lifeng sign if it appears cause i also kinda like him
at p5
to be sure
probably a fair bit less at p0
but wow
that's way more than I expected
I hope they make more ult gain sets that aren't tied to External Xiranite because I'm going through it
you will play seals builds and you will like it
wonder when we'll get new gear anyway
i think big difference starts to hit at p3 when he get extra attack from all stats
it sucks that the other weapons on his sig's banner
are not good
oh yeah with p3
it's unbelievable
Probably comes with new wuling zone
all of lifengs pots are kinds nuts besides p2
28% extra in all 4 stats
okay i'm getting lifeng sign if it ever appears in the shop
p1 opens up different rots
p3 is a huge increase
p4 opens up new gear setups
p5 is a huge increase
is it lifeng supremacy?
idt many ops can claim to have that many good pots
lowkey always has been
p1 is a bit of allowance
p3 is a nice date out
p5 is a full weeks paycheck
prydwen put him in t1
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my biggest L take in cbt was calling him weak
I'm wondering if Fortmaker on Alesh to have him ult every single rotation is worth giving up Thermite cutter team boost

it started when I like
ran the 4/8 calcs
and realised that he was still doing 20% of the team's dmg with 3x xiranite
same tier as yvonne
which is absolutely ludicrous
hes the only non limited character i dont have yet TT
I could also thermite cutter on Chen and ruin her personal damage
soon soon
chen is too good to kill personal damage on
chen does dmg?
yeah 30% of team rotation dmg
this is a unit
that can solo rhodan in 105s
5* btw
aspirant ๐ฅ
solo?
bro i cant get to 120 with sutr

bring back rapid ascent
surtur doesnt count
surtr has a sub 50 solo
Chen just has cracked multipliers and a good combo skill
everyone knows solution with surtur is easy mode
spend mroe money?
laev with precharge kills everything tbf
its been like this before even game was made
just kidding
she just. needs precharge
im too lazy to pre charge
pre-eat
with food on sutr but no precahrge 150s
with most time being charing of the ult
so i can use it phase two
ye i casted ult on 90s
that is... hm
well 100
yeah pogs pots smell
I didnt realise it was this bad
show
yeah
so ake just ults? 
fairs
pog of greed
Frontline Sweep
Battle skill The Pulverizing Front improved: When hitting at least 2 enemies, 15 SP is returned.
hitting at least 2 enemies ๐
for 15(!!!) sp
dont worry guys
endmin will get 50% perf increase pot next
and save the physical society
is avywenna having her basic attacks being physical super goofy? would it make no difference if you leave her basic attack at lv 1 vs 9?
it would mean you cant do finisher with her
cause you are not getting buffs of elemental
ok so like if my lifeng is hot ass do i just use chen's skills instead
oh p5, surely p5 can get sub 50
i feel like it kinda makes her feel like an incomplete limit
wouldnt it make sense if one of her potentials converted her basic attacks to elemental?
can i just do 90/90 chen lifeng pan and leave pog to chill
god i want to fucking max artifice my shit already
so I would chalk it up to an oversight more than anything else
sightreading would you rather have
66% atk% via stat + 62% arts%
or
24.8% atk% via stat + 29% external atk%
for wulfgard
i cant tell at a glance and dont want to put the effort into calcs if i dont have to
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but at least I got it I guess
remember to max top up first to get her p5 + maxed out signature
i was adamant on not spending coolant on twilight
obj wulf lets you run 3p bonekrusha at p0 and hit the reduced ult gain breakpoint
but then you lose clannibal and have to run obj
coolant?
i think +3 took me 50 essences
the failure byproduct from etching
i used mine already 
bonecrusher 
like for +4 -> +5
there just for its 15% attack lmao
you get 10 per fail and spend it to guarantee a level up
I mean losing clannibal is like
Might as well farm for higher bases if u dont have a lot of essences before etching
Excluding surtr sig
clannibal is kinda whatever if you csn smooth out your rots
speedrunning moment
I mean none of this will ever be relevant to me cause my wulf is p5

hmm @twilit quail would you use p0 sundering over p0 aspirant
if you dont run obj you have to run like a kit and gloves
if you have them on hand i would love to see them
obj lets you get enough ult gain to hit the breakpoint off body alone
i could see how much stat you lose as well i guess
that might make it closer
i have a feeling obj is the angle though
and I thought potentials don't increase performance too much
bruh
lifeng is just him
Lol
Lmao
some really dont
some really do
laevs pots are nuts
It depends as they always say
thats like saying a c0 character from genshin isnt far from a c6
nah some pots just dont do anything tbf
also no pots dramatically alter kits
died in re-crisis because i miss pressed buttons
ok so
the biggest changes are like laev p5 allowing ult to extend and wulf p5 resetting his combo
unfortunately
instead of giving you my awful looking
rainbow graph
have a look at this
this is comparison between p5 sundering
my rainbow graph...
Boooooooo
we can see that p5 steel in here
is doing 490k
you know how much aspirant does here
at p5
385k
it's not even fucking close
aspirant is not good at all
oh god
oh fuck
NO
NO
?
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no way
What now
back to the mines with you ig
HUH ?
sir, another pog set has hit #theorycrafting
say what now 
Is it another arts intensity setup

with eminent repute
defcon 1
of all things

we safe
booo make them suffer drop a proper set
for now

I cant believe this weapon is usable somewhere though wow
oh yeah is there a reason endmin doesn't use aethertech like da pan does in your phys sheet
basically, crush is not enough of the damage% to be worth using over more stats
what was my last time ?
endmin has to do 4/4
you can only fit one 4 stack crush into the pog breach
and so the ult is taking up much more of the dmg%
and the intensity is not worth it anymore
what about in shatter? i feel like crush is much more important there
so i'm missing like 80 sec out of 200
i think type 50 on endmin isnt it
optimizing dogshit teams you love to see it
I will actually go back and check when I feel like it
i wonder how much atk would lifeng have on p3 with his sign buff
because Im not sure which is better at 90/90
why would it
the primary concern with aethertech for endmin in other situations is that
dunno, werent they talking about that set being for endmin?
it is usually only slightly better in damage or equal
but loses the stagger that swordmancer has
i guess it would then just depend on your rotation/the boss(?)
to hit key stagger points
i could try sword mancer but i doubt its gonna be that good
one big factor
idk i just feel like arts intensity being its own multiplier is too good to pass on if you're crushing every rotation
? do we not assume every fish is rare 
cause if youre hitting rare fish swordmancer is way better
oh dude
if we're hitting every rare
swordmancer to the moon
rare fish?
Just win
interesting
I think the last time I was doing this

lets go gambling
if alesh hits approximately 50% of the time
i mean to be fair alesh is vibes-based in general
swordmancer has like a 5-7% advantage for shatter
but if he hits 100% of the time
ooh
ehh
the aethertech set effect is pretty doggy doodoo for endmin its true
okay, my team is endmin chen perlica + avyenna

think about it, right
needs others to apply stacks
has a weapon with (attribute)(atk%)(lots of dmg% amp)
man
to where endmin is probably on roughly the same standing as da pan
btw both endmins potentials are pretty good
man i like pot 
it's not impossible
ok i think thats the set options you'd reasonably consider
unreadable sheet moment
realistically i dont know if arts intensity or combo damage is more valuable till i look at arts burst scaling
oh dude
someone suggested to me
that we WILL get a new rarity of gear soon
but we'll get only get to equip one piece
that's an interesting idea
man
Make it like Potemkin

feelscrafting alone i would guess the best p0 wulf lineup is like
clannibal + frontiers t1 armor + lynx gloves + xiranite power core + hot work power bank
but man does that look
so sketch
ONE PIECE ?
ONE PIECE IS REAL???
Is sundering steel the bis weapon for Chen?
this is so unserious
p5 sundering steel > p0 ascent
The hell is this no set bullshit
and it's way better than aspirant as well
Oh p5
p0 steel is about 4% worse
meeting ult charge req and then minmaxing damage on top lmao
for non p5 wulfgard
2 combos 6 team skills
or 2 rots
Exotics jumpscare
but what if we get some crit dmg/rate sets in 90 lvl gear and it actually become good?
but what if
RED SLAB
it's possible, but we can't really know ahead of time
if it happens we'll just have to
deal with it as it comes
trusting guides
120ult cost is a pain in the ass to fill
mfs gonna eat all my stew
you serious?
Die
Still explode from cringe because hotwork chest
and doesnt fuck your rotation
main stat
secondary stat
main stat %

the t1 variant is just
secondary stat
main stat
secondary stat %
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half critical rate is your +% dmg as raw

evil seal just applies the arclight modifier to everything
half ult charge generated
god i want to see next patch already
5 sp a combo, 3.25sp a skill
just to see how the teams develop
it's been ages since I've felt like this about a game
Nothing ever happens
so if i slap crit +10%
you know what i mean
we need to stop counting time to next patch in terms of days and start counting in terms of how many new pog sets are left
at the cost of whatever that stat could have been
also
how many new mental illnesses
I swear it has to be exhausted, right? there are only so many gear pieces and weapons in the game
How many dumbass prydwen builds
this is just random bullshit go
cnbros cook just as badly as we do
someone's gonna post a run
with crit set chen
Im feeling it
Im smelling it in the air
The fuck am I looking at
i'm already running crit set chen
WOHOOOO
oh dear
if you think about it the crit set is kinda useless if you just run 3p bonekrusha and always hit the 5%
im just working with the broken build
no, still the old one
ohhh yea just crit with 5%
I didnt have the resources yet to fix it
oh
im broke
common how many curshes you have in battle?
well a clear is a clear
@rare rover gathered every single piece of farmable lot and missing 12 origi from the BP
4? 4 crushes
0.00000625 chance to hit every 5% crit on crush
i hate when that triangle go invisible
I can go uhh
do some labbing
I guess
I play physical on someone else's account

i usually use lifeng skill to make him appear
triagg is rly fucking annoying for phys because of their stack reliance
cant exactly detonate stacks when the fucking thing
cleanses itself
but sometimes it a waste of sp
wasting lifeng ult on the adds feels so bad
AGREE
but well, I dont have gather
just kill your rot speed to do this dumbass phase faster ๐
should I waste pog ult instead with its worse gather
so long as you are not overflowing on SP from it
it's not really wasted
pog ult is not actually a necessary part of the rotation
you probably should yeah
cause it doesnt need to be fit into the same place in the rotation every time, right
so who is carry for electric team?
aight
avy
so long as you gain the necessary SP each cycle
and what does arclight in setup?
gotcha, im gonna try using old build first, coz I want to use my resources for 2nd team (fixing phys is...... well with the gear situation rn is kinda.....)

pull, get that p1 laev i dare u
ehhh perlica is better for that
chat, what do these stuff do
and i think perlica is only one you need
upgrade the weapons stat
no
what stat should I look out for
who are you replacing arc with
impulse gambling
the one that the weapon says
do it
i explained in qna
phys status copy
once every 24 seconds

ohh that's long cooldown damn
only 5 trim medals available rn? 6 when event drops?
theres 7
oh-
damn link is funni, i did not expect to almost 2 hit kill w ult on dorito phase 1 
Rhodagn 120
Triagellos 240
Marble 240
Stock Redistribution 500% markup
Depot Delivery 20 perfect factory goods
Valley development 12
Weapon Skill 25 upgraded
not a #theorycrafting post i think
oh I didn't realize stock redistribution and valley development were trims
since they didn't look like the rest
does arts burst consider the stacks before the application or after
as in 1 stack > apply second > arts burst
is the arts burst calced with 1 or 2 stacks
youtube short upload of a cropped bilibili video
depot node one I get tmrw...
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juicy trims im just missing the depot
Welcome to youtube
i feel like thereโll be a new pog set later
been a while
only juicers in the chat





