theorycrafting

[gritty olive]

i dont know damage formula, i dont know stagger values for each enemy and attack that deals it, i dont know energy

[hexed hazel]

if we work together I think it's easily done with some controlled tests, at least for the stagger value of enemies

[glass birch]

That's because he only applies combustion on ult or via the normal way (any element + heat)

[gritty olive]

ill be down

[split axle]

for a laeve team, laeve being the dps... all 3 hot work and ardelia with xerinite is bis right?

ofc 3/4th for set and last for stats

[gritty olive]

iirc with p5 wulf you can go all in to energy

[split axle]

so laeve/ake wit hot work, wulf with energy and arde with xeri?

my wulf is p5, arde is p1, ake p5. laeve p0

[sly nymph]

doesn't this wording mean it applies vulnerable before consuming, even if there are already vulnerable stacks on the enemy

if it doesn't apply then endmin can't use aethertech

[summer flower]

Crush is vunerability also i think

Vunerable is category

Wait no... You onto something

[dry kindle]

immmmmmm not testing that

[gritty olive]

@bronze plume

whats a good laev rotation to try

[summer flower]

Anyway outcome is that it is vunerable stacks gone and crush at end

Which is also vunerability stack

Diff is damage

[steel topaz]

what team did you end up running?

[thick terrace]

I need RIIC chart

Or OMV chart

[midnight stirrup]

@dry kindle Could you explain to me how the carry over works with the gacha

[dry kindle]

Wut

[midnight stirrup]

At 80 pulls youre guaranteed a 6-star, but does that mean up to 79 pity carries over? Because at 80 u get a 6-star, so I imagine that doesnt carry over.

[dry kindle]

80 is just normal pity

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah I know

[dry kindle]

Its not banner specific

[midnight stirrup]

Im asking how the carry over of pity works

Cause I be seeing this

[dry kindle]

It carries over

[midnight stirrup]

What carries over

The 80 pulls after you get a 6-star there?

[dry kindle]

The hard pity counter

[midnight stirrup]

I dont think you understand what im trying to ask

You get a 6-star at 80 pulls, correct?

Nvm, I figured it out already

[rich brook]

Hey guys do you have growth and mfg cabin combos

[drifting quest]

Theyre too expensive to be rational for now

Mats spread too thin

[gritty olive]

yes

[drifting quest]

If 0 stacks > apply 1 stack then crush
If 1+ stacks > just crush

[gritty olive]

.gacha

[tranquil burrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1463314157368643706/EndfieldBannerFlowchartv2.png?ex=69716102&is=69700f82&hm=1016600671b1f4866d60410df6ce664bb6221b472f5c617d085a405fd7f4ec22&

[gritty olive]

unless youre 6* maxxing, you only care about the 120 pulls guarantee

tc usually is more advanced game mechanics but wtv this channel is dead

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah doubt anyone cares as of right now, and the other channels are too floody to ask questions

So im only doing the smart thing to do

Anyway, just to confirm

[gritty olive]

#theorycrafting unread message
hopes its damage calculation tc
something else

[midnight stirrup]

0-79 carries over, 80 resets 5050 pity to 0 with 6-star gained, then banner offers an option to pull 40 more times to get the limited, but none of those 40 count, so youre still at 0 pity 5050 when the next banner arrives, when you pulled for the 120.

[gritty olive]

you do not need to include the last phrase

[drifting quest]

2 pities
Any 6* pity
Limited pity
Any 6* is every 80, it carries
Limited is every 120, does not carry

[gritty olive]

you will always be at 50 50 no matter what

[midnight stirrup]

That 80th pull doesnt carry tho right, where u get the 5050 6 star

Only up to 79 carries

[gritty olive]

theres no "next 6* is surefire guaranteed to be rate-up" in this game, only a hard guarantee at the Xth pull when the previous X-1 pulls didnt give you the rate-up

[drifting quest]

79 at worst

Realistically you get a 6* around pull 70-73

[midnight stirrup]

Alright, makes sense

[gritty olive]

by then your 6* pity is now 0

so onpoint

[midnight stirrup]

Yea so it resets to 0 at a 6-star gained at 80

Gotcha

[gritty olive]

any 6 star gained = reset, including the guarantee

currently im at 4 pity, since i used the free HH pulls for surtr

[midnight stirrup]

Does chancing a 6-star between 80 and 120 ruin ur guarantee for the limited?

Or does the system not care whether u did

[gritty olive]

wdym by this

[midnight stirrup]

Like lets say you reached 80 pity right

Got ur 6-star

[gritty olive]

if pulls 81 to 119 didnt give you the rate-up, pull 120 will give you your rate-up

[midnight stirrup]

Then u do ur 40 more pulls for the limited

[gritty olive]

otherwise all your progress "is wasted"

[midnight stirrup]

But u get another 6-star at like 110 pulls, does it affect the guarantee limited at 120

[drifting quest]

No

[midnight stirrup]

Like do u need to do 120 pulls again

Aight ic

[gritty olive]

.

[drifting quest]

The 120 is always in effect as long as you havent yet pulled the rate up

[gritty olive]

you are perpetually in 50 50, and the way the guarantee goes away prematurely is you pulled the rate-up befoer 120 pulls

[drifting quest]

If you pull laev at 1 or 119 you lose the 120 guarantee

[midnight stirrup]

Yea that makes sense

But if off banner

[drifting quest]

But you can pull a 6* every pull and as long as its not laev you get laev at 120

[gritty olive]

so you can lose the 6* rate-up 119 times and the game doesnt care

[midnight stirrup]

it doesnt ruin the 120 guarantee

Aight good

I understand now

Thanks both

[gritty olive]

its not a rate-up -> 120 guarantee stays

not sure whats confusing here, but the limiteds in the offbanner pool doesnt count as a "boosted rate-up"

so yeah

[midnight stirrup]

I'm just confirming

[drifting quest]

No harm to confirm

[midnight stirrup]

The gacha in this game is super confusing to understand at first

So thats whats confusing

[drifting quest]

Its a lot to keep track of to start with

[gritty olive]

yeah

[midnight stirrup]

I'm also just trying to explain to my friends playing in the best way without missinforming

[gritty olive]

but the pulling philosophy boils down to
"only recommended to pull at 120 pulls in stock, below that its a risk youre willing to take"

people are badmouthing it because they think that theyre always going to get 2 5*s back to back in a 20 pull span

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah seems to be the case

Yall at endgame right

Whats ur pull count rn without using anything

Or did yall whale

[drifting quest]

Total? Like 170

[gritty olive]

im at 80 + 20 pulls

[drifting quest]

Bp and monthly bought

[midnight stirrup]

Thats pretty brutal damn

[gritty olive]

i havent bought BP and monthly yet

[midnight stirrup]

Ig its the start of the patch and we still getting shit

over the duration of the patch

[gritty olive]

hate is overblown, its fine just grind

[midnight stirrup]

Im sitting on like 20ish k right now, and spend about 30 limited pulls.

[gritty olive]

lack of easy sources of oro-, events are making people have a bitter taste about this type of banenrs

[midnight stirrup]

I think the biggest problem right now is that if people want Laev, they have to grind tf out of the game before her banner runs out or theyre not getting her guaranteed.

Which is fair tbh.

[gritty olive]

but most people would adjust to a gacha games banenr system in their 3rd attempt to obtain a high rarity character

[drifting quest]

Its about 250 lim 150 standard

Predicted for the patch

[midnight stirrup]

I can't complain tho

Gryph blessed my account

Shouldve won a lottery ticket that day

LMAO

[gritty olive]

anyways shuo have you found a damage formula yet

[drifting quest]

EF gacha is fairer than similar games in the same genre, as long as pull income remains good

[gritty olive]

im irked by defense calculation

[tawny meadow]

does this 'X attempt(s) to a 6* operator' carry over to future banners?

[midnight stirrup]

I do agree with this yeah, its just a bigger hurdle to save for than X gacha.

[gritty olive]

oh yes it does

[drifting quest]

Def should be easier to test aa long as we know the def of enemies

Its likely hoyoesque

[gritty olive]

hsr has it as [char level + 20]/([enemy level + 20]+[char level + 20])

[drifting quest]

Id expect it to be similar, if just a different value

You can probably reverse engineer it via recrisis

Same boss different levels

[gritty olive]

tarr 11 on surtr and endmin

[drifting quest]

Just whack them once each with the same char

[gritty olive]

and remove all atk buffs they have

my endmin is at 60, surtr is at 80

[drifting quest]

Yeah just bring a gearless unit

[gritty olive]

two gearless units

[drifting quest]

So theres no gear set, weapon bonus, etc

N1 and record it

[gritty olive]

i still need to do BA and GI dailies

ill record in ~20 mins

[drifting quest]

Probably ideally done w/ l80
Then theres a boss at lower, equal and higher level

To properly account for level scalings

[gritty olive]

ill list down my gearless, tarr 11 surtr and endmin

[tawny meadow]

oh wait so it does?

[gritty olive]

674 atk, 27% n1, 91 damage => 91/0.27/674 = 0.5 def scaling
504 atk, 34% n1, 86 damage => 86/504/0.34 = 0.5018 def scaling

[gritty olive]

The 6* pity transfers, one time guarantee per banner doesnt

i need to test this with chen and alesh

[gritty olive]

chen, 445 atk, 20% n1, 67 damage = 0.75
alesh, 83 atk, 18% n1, 8 damage = 0.5354

?

[midnight stirrup]

Yo, can I ask one more quick thing about the gacha. Ill leave yall to it after

[gritty olive]

go on im the only active participant here

[midnight stirrup]

My goat

Anyway

When you roll the 50/50

[gritty olive]

yes youre correct

[outer ermine]

[midnight stirrup]

What are the odds of getting Laev, the other 2 limited, or the standard

Whats the spread

[gritty olive]

50% rate-up
7.1428% limited
7.1428% limited
7.1428% other offbanners

so 1/2 chance laev, 1/14 gilberta, 1/14 yvonne, 1/14 lifeng. 1/14 ardelia, 1/14 last rite, 1/14 ember, 1/14 pogranichnik if fractions are better for your understanding

[midnight stirrup]

Soooo, 50% is Laev, if you hit the other 50% its 1/14th chance for any of the other chars on there

Do I understand right

[gritty olive]

2/7 for limited, 5/7 for standard

[midnight stirrup]

How does that translate into percentages

[gritty olive]

if we get even more data, there might be trends that suggest that laev also shares a spot in the lose pool like in HSR

[midnight stirrup]

I suck at calculating fractions

2 divided by 7 times 100?

[gritty olive]

yeah ~28% chance that your 50 50 loss is a limited

[midnight stirrup]

Ahhhh okay okay okay

Cooking

Thank u so much

[gritty olive]

[midnight stirrup]

Btw Monika

Whats Last Rite's best comp rn in your opinion

If you even calculated that yet

I see a lot of people mention and use Pelica, but shuo is of opinion that Fluorite is better there.

[drifting quest]

Fluo and akekuri are equal

Honestly depending on their na sequence speed one might win out as a driver

Since lr ba sequence is slow

[gritty olive]

i fought tooth and nail to make conditionals work in my simulator

[drifting quest]

(This is where every ba sequence is gonna be identical or something)

[gritty olive]

it doesnt even have damage yet!

ive watched a cancel LR rot that saves like half a second

[midnight stirrup]

Ill let you cook then

[midnight stirrup]

Yeah ive been doing that

[gritty olive]

ill only do five teams and dip

[midnight stirrup]

NA2 Dash cancel NA 34FS cancel

[gritty olive]

[midnight stirrup]

Nani

[midnight stirrup]

What does akekuri do tho

I understand Fluo, but not so much Ake

[gritty olive]

sp and some heat infliction, she gives back more sp with more intellect

havent checked her pots lately

[midnight stirrup]

How does that help LR

[dry kindle]

Extra stack doesn't really help and perlica means funny electrification+stanza

[midnight stirrup]

Thats what I was thinking too

Plus Perlica deals big stagger damage

I think the context from shuo was that Perlica is better if u can kill in 1 rot, but Fluorite outshines on longer rots

But he can correct me if thats wrong

[drifting quest]

Its just sp printing

Thats it

[dry kindle]

Idr what 16s cbt kill used

Probably the usual

[midnight stirrup]

Bro ive been trying to find that 16s cbt video

Guoba mentioned it in his vid, but didnt link it

[drifting quest]

Rhodan is a bum

Lr wasnt nerfed

[dry kindle]

Oh yeah there's live server lr trims for fraud and dorito

[drifting quest]

Yeah all 3 have a ton of trims

[heavy tinsel]

guys quick question, Grand vision is MC best weapon right? someone keep suggesting me using Rapid Ascent instead

[dry kindle]

Nothing for marble

[dry kindle]

Me when credit card

[midnight stirrup]

I wanna get to endgame bruh, sounds fun

LR hits like a noodle rn

[dry kindle]

I don't see any shatter trims tho 🗿

[dry kindle]

She is 🗿

[drifting quest]

Only like 75%

[drifting quest]

For the 20s clear i mean

It was back in cbt

[dry kindle]

Explodes

The numbers don't even look that different

[drifting quest]

Other stuff got nerfed too

[dry kindle]

No patch notes for weapon

[drifting quest]

I think rhodan is fatter too

[dry kindle]

Explodes

[dry kindle]

Fund my phys comp

[drifting quest]

Fund mine

Deal

[dry kindle]

Lr trimming marble is gonna be fun

[gritty olive]

imagine genshin impact gauge theory applies here

[proper galleon]

how much ultimate gain do I need for last rite?

[midnight stirrup]

Doesnt she want strength attack detonate

[proper galleon]

not for this weapon

[midnight stirrup]

Oh fair

[proper galleon]

that's probs for the 6* one

[midnight stirrup]

Yea I run the 6-star so got confused for a second

mb

[drifting quest]

Just cheese via food buff

0 sustain

Energy regen

Thats how most trimmed clears do it

The singular antal clear of statue gets like 6 laev ults by just using energy generating food

That ive seen*

[outer ermine]

6 ults

[midnight stirrup]

How do yall feel about swapping to other chars while a char is in the middle of hitlag

or a skill that lingers

[thick terrace]

I don't have enough reaction time to do all that

[outer ermine]

inb4 cd to swapping back is longer

[steep pewter]

ive seen two laevatain builds online. first is where you run off piece tide fall armour and the other is off piece lynx slab kit. has anyone run the numbers to see which is better

[drifting quest]

Minmax nothingburger

[drifting quest]

No I ask every time and no one knows

Its pure feelscraft

Its on my list of things to do myself

[midnight stirrup]

Sadge

[steep pewter]

yeah im curious as to whether the extra ult efficiency is actually noticable on her rotations because you only need 3 enhanced battle skills to get her ultimate

[gray glacier]

does anyone know if the frontier set effect procs on any sp recovering skill or strictly sp recovering combo skills?

[fading fog]

How big is the difference between Lifeng's sig and Valiant? Not sure how big the diff between the atk% and the atk from the attr boost is, but considering there's no CD on the extra dmg on Valiant and it can be procced every skill and x2 per ult it looks pretty good

[drifting quest]

basically nothing, 5% or so

maybe 10% in most unideal conditions

[tranquil burrow]

whats the best gold gear for laevatain?

[wild sparrow]

does ardelia's enhanced skill prompt expire?

[drifting quest]

3p hot work
Either lynx slab or tide chest
Pyrometers

[hard crag]

Lasts as long as the corrosion does

[stoic dragon]

that's a sign when the enemy has corrosion

[tranquil burrow]

can you use tide set?

[wild sparrow]

hmm okay, that means i need to learn the laev rotation properly then

[hard crag]

Hotworks is absolutely necessary

[tranquil burrow]

thank youu

[hard crag]

It’s not a bad gear to unlock either, just take an upwards line on the mountain side where it’s at

[vagrant sparrow]

What makes wulfgard better than akakuri

Wouldnt akakuri antal Ardelia be more dmg

I feel like he doesnt provide a lot

[valid zealot]

You are correct.

His only support capability is locked behind pot2.

Unless you giga invest in him he's just a glorified heat bot.

*p3

mb

[vagrant sparrow]

But like akekuri also gives heat

But hmm i guess you can only hit 4 stacks of heat per rotation with wulfgard

Not sure

[valid zealot]

Well he also applies heat on combo.

So 1 more stack.

[wild meteor]

Qn how much stronger is

laev+wulf5/5+antal5/5+adelia1/5
vs
avywenna3/5+perlica4/5+arclight4/5+adelia1/5

I'm wondering if I should swap now that I have Laev from getting a pity from her banner.

[drifting quest]

A ways ahead

P5 wulf makes it even more so

[mystic halo]

with the charge chest you get 0 > full ult in 2 standard rotation

which is good

technically the 12% on it is already overflowing

[gritty cobalt]

whats the best phys team rn

[wild meteor]

oof i wish i could turn back time and undo levelling my elec team

[rich brook]

Hey guys, which teams does da pan shine in other than mono physical

[valid zealot]

No.

[chilly dagger]

ok guys thoughts on yvonne gilberta

• lavetain and lifeng team

[valid zealot]

He strictly need to eat 4 invul stack, gl finding that in another team.

[agile flicker]

hi guys do you etch main stat or %atk boost?

its 1% atk boost for every 2 points of main stat right? correct me if im wrong pls

[summer flower]

How does citircal hits work like?

[fringe totem]

have the brains found out how much dps do sig weapons give to 6stars

or at the very least for surtr

uh i mean laevatin

[vagrant sparrow]

8% compared to max out battlepass one

[safe sand]

I wonder if it's worth building chen purely for stagger ulti damage

[agile flicker]

ok nvm i just compared %atk bonus with intellect and its much better the %atk bonus since it applies before main stat bonus to base attk

[quasi wigeon]

If you get a copy of the wep is it better to sync or just leave it alone?

[summer flower]

Does sundering steel even work?

Havent seen markers for that attack %

[heavy tusk]

Does the 4* shield bum seem absolutely disgusting to anyone else? Can spam 6 parries and damage immunities back to back
Anyone built him for damage?

[split gust]

which one is better on LR team? Perlica or Flourite?

[tawny spindle]

Perlica most importantly is much cuter, as well as doesn't have annoying voice lines when running around. I guess she also doesn't have an absurdly long 40 second combo cooldown

[mighty grove]

Get last rite voicelines ong frfr least annoying ones in the entire game

[tawny spindle]

I just pulled Xaihi so I'm trying her out with Last Rite, Perlica, Ardelia

I'm curious if INT Xaihi is worth it for the cryo amp on her ult, or if just WILL is better in the long term

[fathom sparrow]

guys how do i craft/get bombs..?

or like atleast see what i need for them

[tawny spindle]

Lol I know crafting is in the channel name but that's an #aic-factory question

[fathom sparrow]

i asked in the help channel but got ignored so moved to the next one

lmaooo

anyway thanks , didnt know you could craft them

[tawny spindle]

Bombs are used to blow up rocks in the open world that typically have good items and stuff behind them

[split gust]

which one better for support perlica for last rite?

[fickle obsidian]

is it still theorycrafting when finding eastereggs

[fathom sparrow]

ive been trying to blow up that thingi with wolfs gun attacks but its not been working heh

[fickle obsidian]

use bomb

[tawny spindle]

Oh yeah you need bombs for some goop as well

[brittle magnet]

How is ake good for a laeva team?

[tawny spindle]

Am I dumb or does Perlica not apply Arts Burst in a Last Rite comp

[brittle magnet]

The Regen talent only works when she combos combos, but she rarely ever combos?

[tawny spindle]

Wouldn't Arts Burst be if you applied Ele + Ele, which you'll never get unless you use Perlica's Battle Skill twice, which ideally you'd never use hers in a Last Rite comp

[steel topaz]

Has anyone done a list of all weapons and the essence they need?

[swift ruin]

is p5 obj better than detonation unit for antal?

[split gust]

actually yeah.. I guess the 2nd option is more better for perlica in this comp I guess (I dunno why I assumed the ult applies elec inflic)

[woeful umbra]

is it a bad idea to just go all in on Will gear for ardelia? all the healing substats seem to just be on the will stuff

[fading fog]

does the sp recovery of pog increase with skill levels or are his values fixed?

[grand bough]

What increase Ardelia healing?

[ripe adder]

how is xiranite literally just compost 😭 any lore fans

[split gust]

based on wiki.gg, it says that sp recovery from his kit are fixed. Only increases upon mastery level up

[fading fog]

I see

[split gust]

Will stat

[dire warren]

Anyone know which is better for wulfgard on laevatain team? Hotwork or Frontiers set?

[split gust]

I'm currently using a will build on her (still using purple since I haven't built a gold gear farm yet)

so far it helps with sustain a lot, the debuff from her skill scales with skill level anyways

[fathom vigil]

On topic of Perlica in LR team, how much worse is Oblivion compared to Stanza?

Been using that for most of my playthrough with Stanza on Ard until she gets her sig. Wondering if I should swap

[grand bough]

Can i level up only skill on her? Other abilities have only dmg scaling

[split gust]

oblivion only buffs the wielder. In Last Rite comp, you would usually want the buffs to go to LR, which Stanza does provide. Oblivion only buffs Perlica and not LR

[fathom vigil]

That's true yea. Would Stanza still be worth it at lower Ps? (can only do P2 rn).

[split gust]

yep, you'll only level up the combo skill and ult if you want to sprinkle a bit of damage

but upgrading only the skill should be enough

[grand bough]

Thx

[split gust]

I think it should be fine at p1

[fathom vigil]

ty!

[hollow igloo]

what does crush scale off? attack, level, or there's a fixed base damage?

I saw the 150% but 150% of what

[safe sand]

the skill/ultimate that activates it

i think

[normal tangle]

is there any point to the different elements? like are there resistances or vulnerabilities or anything

i know inflictions exist but like sometimes you do elemental dmg without inflictions

[grand bough]

Treatment bonus stat on set means that Ardelia will be healing more or receiving increased heal ?

[normal tangle]

healing given

including healing to herself

[midnight stirrup]

Is Detonation Unit BiS for Perlica?

I dont rly understand the weapon

[split gust]

some bosses have resistances and vulnerabilities

[split gust]

somewhat, mostly in electric comp
since the weapon requires perlica to use her skill twice at least

[midnight stirrup]

Damn so its ass in LR

Fuck

Well, my only other options were the guns and the silver claymore

Already had the other 2

[empty crag]

How useful is battle skill damage for laevatain

[smoky peak]

Roughly what numbers are we talking about with SP gained for a final strike?

e.g. if a final strike deals 25 stagger, does it also recover roughly 25 SP? Or is it closer to double that? Or some other number?

[sudden lichen]

I think this might be the best last rite setup?

Couldn't find better gear

[safe sand]

probably have to test on a per-character basis, though i think that both the stagger and SP gen are related to how long it takes to finish the entire attack chain

[smoky peak]

Yes, hence the wording of my question.
I doubt it varies wildly per character.

[modest thorn]

if i have p4 laevatain is p5 worth going for?

[drifting quest]

Yes

[smoky peak]

Well, based on eyeing the SP bar, I'd say it's roughly 50% more than the stagger the final strike deals.

[normal tangle]

as long as you promote for yellow gear it's fine

[proven fractal]

Mind if I ask on how to best make use of the Dijang?

[dry kindle]

Its a like 3:55 trig

[drifting quest]

With item cheese?

Or just sending it

[mellow thorn]

hmmm...

hold hands after a long coma...

amnesia

same with amiya too...

and we shooting originium into the moon

[sly egret]

can someone explain me artificing or give me a webside where there is a guide to it?

[smoky peak]

Is it just me, or is ultimate energy really hard to get?
You get 10 per combo trigger (for only that character), which gives like 0.5-1 energy/s, depending on the cooldown.
Then 6.5 for every 100 SP you use. And you get SP at a rate of like maybe 15/s, giving you another 1 energy/s.
And so, at 1.5-2 energy/s, and ultimates costing 70-100 energy, it takes like 50 seconds (divided by the ultimate gain efficiency) to charge up an ult?
Doesn't look like you'd ever hit the cooldown of the ult, unless I'm missing something.

[mellow thorn]

aint this the theory crafting chat? XD

im seeing less cooking and more guides and tips

or did i misunderstand?

[smoky peak]

People misusing chats is nothing new.
Perhaps they find #help overcrowded. Who knows.
Not like you're helping the problem? 🤔

[mellow thorn]

but seriously, are we getting gaslight AGAIN?

this the conspiracy chat or is this just a chat for crafting?

[smoky peak]

You might be looking for #lore-room?
This is for gameplay.

[mellow thorn]

pretty sure the lore chat is for solid lore?

last thing i saw is "dont spread misinformation"

[smoky peak]

Don't know.
Regardless, as per the the channel topic, this is for gameplay, not story.

[mellow thorn]

so im assuming its for confirmed lore

[mellow thorn]

hmm

ok

this the factory stuff then?

[valid zealot]

#aic-factory

[mellow thorn]

hmm

[valid zealot]

Honestly just don't try.

[plucky pagoda]

how much energy do you gain everytime you use a skill?

[smoky peak]

6.5 as I read

[plucky pagoda]

im really curious, i wanna know how long it takes to get an ult

[plucky pagoda]

thanks!

[smoky peak]

I was just pondering the same thing myself:
#theorycrafting message

[plucky pagoda]

yeah its strange, i wanna see how ult charge effiency works so i can use ults faster

[valid zealot]

Do any character stricly only function with ult available.

[plucky pagoda]

i have a theory catcher is better than ember :/

[plucky pagoda]

fluorite in last rite teams mostly due to combo skill cd

[smoky peak]

Ult gain efficiency is just a multiplier on the energy gained.
100% is base, 200% would mean you charge at 2x the rate.

[valid zealot]

40s.

🛌

[plucky pagoda]

can someone tell me why so many ppl say ember is better than catcher in place of lifeng?

if u dont have lifeng

it makes no sense to me

[valid zealot]

Lemme read him rq.

Oh he can use xyranite.

[plucky pagoda]

hes like way better than ember in physical teams

you just have to dodge more

plus his skill costs 60, embers costs 100

[valid zealot]

I haven't read Ember yet.

[plucky pagoda]

ill summarize

[valid zealot]

No need I can read.

Quite the capability I'm proud of.

[plucky pagoda]

oh alr

[plucky pagoda]

tell me when ur done and what u think

[solid path]

catcher better than ember cuz you can aurafarm

[plucky pagoda]

catcher better kit wise too

[solid path]

true

[drifting quest]

ember vuln stack generation cost = 0 sp
catcher vuln stack generation cost = 60sp or once every other rotation 0sp

its really that simple

neither are good

[solid path]

catcher would be SSS tier if he could parry puddles/wave attacks

[drifting quest]

one costs less

[valid zealot]

Well she can invul on combo is nice.

But like

[plucky pagoda]

true but its 1 every 20 sec

[valid zealot]

that's everything positive.

[plucky pagoda]

and cant use xyranite

[plucky pagoda]

shes just better at sustaining thats it

[valid zealot]

But like

Both are not r good.

Being passive in phys comp is so bad.

[plucky pagoda]

in place of lifeng though

if u dont have him

[valid zealot]

No Pogranichnik?

[plucky pagoda]

with pog

no lifeng

[solid path]

u can use chen if boss/enemy is afk tho?

[valid zealot]

then just Chen Arde.

What's the issue.

[drifting quest]

if you're absolutely going to use one of the two no matter what ember simply has 0 sp cost

[solid path]

i'd just keep one bar for parrying attacks in reserve

[drifting quest]

sp economy is the most important thing in this game in my opinion

[valid zealot]

Talking about Ember & catcher.

They are defender.

[plucky pagoda]

if thats true, catcher uses less sp still?

[valid zealot]

Fr?

Or just combo bot.

[solid path]

ye but in a comp tho

[valid zealot]

Which part did I miss.

[plucky pagoda]

ember is just combo bot

[drifting quest]

using sp is a detriment

catcher uses sp to stack vuln

ember doesnt

[plucky pagoda]

also, if sp is more important, wouldnt a minor dmg loss for catcher skill instead of chen skill be better for the vulnerability applications? chen still gets the combo

[valid zealot]

You stagger a lot in phys comp, both of them need getting hit to apply invul.

Which is bad.

Well catcher can ult but...

[plucky pagoda]

catcher doesnt actually need to be hit

well he does

woops

mb

[drifting quest]

chen is a core slot already because of her short cd combo
you have to actively add catcher which takes the slot from a better unit

[plucky pagoda]

catcher isnt better, catch isnt a replacement for chen

mb

[solid path]

ye just go chen-catcher-someone to use up vuln stacks-support char

[drifting quest]

both suck dont get me wrong

[plucky pagoda]

ya they do, but isnt catcher only a slight dmg decrease from chen skill?

plus it gives more stagger fyi

including chen passive

[valid zealot]

With pog aye?

[drifting quest]

you either build catcher for tanking > does no damage
build catcher for ult > does no damage
or build him for damage > does not tank or get ult reasonably and still does less damage

[valid zealot]

Then you can't burst when staggered.

Unless you main pog.

Nvm main pog can still not burst.

[plucky pagoda]

if you build him for ult, he does no damage but ember also does no damage

[plucky pagoda]

same with ember

[valid zealot]

Just dont use any where ur arde.

[solid path]

build him for tanking then have others do dps it's that shrimple

[plucky pagoda]

well true, but this is catcher vs ember

[valid zealot]

Chen?

[plucky pagoda]

catcher

mb

typing too fast

[valid zealot]

It's like

an argument for the sake of being an argument.

[plucky pagoda]

bad vs bad but i wanna know whos the worst

[plucky pagoda]

kinda yeah

[valid zealot]

K.

PES_Exit

[plucky pagoda]

wait but

i think catcher could be maybe better than ard

🧐

[drifting quest]

yes but ember isnt trying to do more damage than chen here

[plucky pagoda]

i mean like in hypothetical where you'll be dodging

[valid zealot]

Yes when you're stingy with your sp and doesn't spare the cutesie Arde any.

[plucky pagoda]

sp pretty important in pog comp tho

[valid zealot]

Take Stanza she's already better.

No burst during stagger = deadge.

[plucky pagoda]

youd use chens skill during stagger no?

and just save catchers ult for stagger

wait yeah

[valid zealot]

This is giga scuffed.

What's the last slot.

Pog Chen

[plucky pagoda]

if you save catchers ult for stagger, you increase the entire teams damage for the entire stagger duration because of the dmg bonus

[plucky pagoda]

its pog chen da pan catcher

[solid path]

support

[plucky pagoda]

or endmin instead of da pan

[valid zealot]

PU_PepeThinkGe

Da Pan is debatable.

[solid path]

im gonna run gilbertafor my 4th slot

[valid zealot]

Guy desparately hungry for 4 stacks.

[plucky pagoda]

well maybe endmin

[plucky pagoda]

i think rotation is catcher skill, chen combo, catcher skill, endmin skill, pog combo

[valid zealot]

Theorycrafter when they hit the progression wall

Smh.

I can't test sht

[plucky pagoda]

and during stagger itd be pog ult, chen skill, chen combo, endmin combo, catcher ult, endmin ult, endmin skill, pog combo

[drifting quest]

im gated on testing by missing units

no pog no gilb

[plucky pagoda]

i have no pog sadly

so i cant test it

[drifting quest]

i have stuff to do to record down as well

energy calcs

general guide doc

[plucky pagoda]

ya i need that

[drifting quest]

still trying to find damage formula need to help with that

[plucky pagoda]

i saw this #theorycrafting message

idk if its true

[fading fog]

quick question does chen want an off piece? don't wanna bricc my acc by artificing a bad piece

[plucky pagoda]

Chen: Swordmancer Flint x2, Swordmancer TAC fists, Bonekrusha Heavy Armour T1
i use this on her

[fading fog]

yea I'm using that as well

[drifting quest]

whats the logic on bonekrusher armour vs like

mask

[fading fog]

with mask you trade phys for crit, while with body you trade arts intensity for combo dmg

[drifting quest]

23% phys % vs 41% dmg% on staggered

20% combo % vs 20 arts intensity

is the numbers

[fading fog]

and honestly crit is kinda cringe

[drifting quest]

mask isnt crit

[fading fog]

oh there's a different one?

[drifting quest]

mask t1 is crit

[fading fog]

ah there's a stagger bonus one as well I see

[plucky pagoda]

let me check rq

[drifting quest]

its basically just 23% phys vs 41% dmg% on stagger

20% combo and 20 arts intensity are both nothingburger

[mighty grove]

Is Da Pan available already coz I never got him from banner

[plucky pagoda]

what do you use for mask build btw? like what pieces

[drifting quest]

its just swordmancer body

and mask over a kit

[mighty grove]

Woops wrong channel mb

[drifting quest]

if someone else holds swordmancer you're on 3 bonekrusha anyway

[plucky pagoda]

i use kit cuz physical dmg bonus thats it

[drifting quest]

waiting for sheeted numbers i guess

[plucky pagoda]

how does arts intensity affect vuln/lift/knock down? do u know any guesses or

[plucky pagoda]

@drifting quest

if it affects at all

[drifting quest]

shouldnt do anything

[plucky pagoda]

ya what i thought

[drifting quest]

it does for other units

but i cant think of anything for chen

[fading fog]

with 20

[plucky pagoda]

then using arts intensity is still slightly worse (very slightly worse) for chen right? cause its absolutely nothing instead of sort of nothing

[plucky pagoda]

oh

[drifting quest]

stagger is nice

about it

[drifting berry]

Question is Thermite cutter recommended because is a genuenly strong weapon for supporters or because there are no better options?

Like for example my Laev has 776 base atk * 0.08 from Thermite cutter it would add an additional 62.08 to my total atk. But after applying ATK bonus from attributes she gets a total of 3460 atk, which compared to the additional 62 atk from Thermite Cutter is an increase of 1.78% in the total atk. (I'm using Akekuri here because I don't like the lizard guy)

[drifting quest]

a bit of both

atk buffs are rare right now

so its value is diluted a lot less than alternatives

and then alternatives arent exactly common

[plucky pagoda]

ive been wondering if twelve questions is better for arclight than thermal

[drifting quest]

no

[plucky pagoda]

ic

[drifting quest]

12 q's is personal damage

and its not even all that for personal damage

[plucky pagoda]

i use arclight battle skill while waiting for avywennas combo skill, is that optimal?

[drifting berry]

And just to make sure ATK% buff applies to the base atk of 776 or the basic total of 907?

[drifting quest]

i havent checked myself but i would guess base

thats the norm

should be the 907 though

i misread initially

[earnest patio]

WHICH ONE TO PICK

[drifting quest]

save until you need it

[dry kindle]

[(base atk * 1+% bonuses) + flat bonuses] * 1+ability value bonuses

[fading fog]

wouldn't the 20 art actually be just a straight upgrade over 20 combo for chen? considering it gives 20% to lift damage and also 10% stagger on top of that

[drifting quest]

yes

[drifting berry]

Sword for laev, arts unit for Gilgerta, Hand cannon for Yvonne.

These only work for these characters in specific and none of them are bis, just save in the case you get any of these character and you are not able to get their signature weapons.

Tho while the sword is 2nd bis for Laev I think that the hand cannot and Arts unit are 3rd bis for Yvonne and Gilberta respectively.

[hollow igloo]

Okay, I did some testing and I think this number lined up.

It seems like enemies have base damage reduction of 0.6 (if D resistance enemy takes 100%, C resistance takes 80%).

Basic damage formula should be
Damage = ATK * SkillMult * (1 + DMGBonus) * 0.6 * EnemyRES
and Crush damage formula is
Crush = ATK * (1.5 + 1.5 * VulnStack) * (1 + ArtsIntensity) * (1 + DMGBonus) * 0.6 * EnemyRES

[drifting quest]

the elusive defense stat

[dry kindle]

Oh right

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Nk6BEH-FLYpZ6nKVAhAOeYiSBjnf6a0HTNYFbNJ0Ss/edit?tab=t.0

[plucky pagoda]

why does arclight skill say sp 40 recovery on prydwen? include potential?

idk if wrong channel but i thought u guys would know

[dry kindle]

M3

[plucky pagoda]

ic, so 50 SP on skill with potential?

[drifting quest]

prydwen only lists m3 skills

[dry kindle]

Me when crowns

[plucky pagoda]

thx

[drifting quest]

simply pay the 10

[dry kindle]

Waaah

Did you find any shatter trims

[drifting quest]

no but i havent searched

[valid zealot]

goated

[drifting quest]

idk the cn term for shatter comps

[valid zealot]

Who's working on this.

[dry kindle]

Why is there a fucking heatworks pogra on my screen

[normal tangle]

is wedge or navigator better for yvonne

choosing which weapon crate to dedicate to her

[bronze plume]

akekuri skill > wulfgard combo skill > final strike on laev > ardelia combo skill > ardelia skill > laevatain combo skill > laevatain skill repeat

just use ults when up rotation is the same during laev skill

@bronze plume pinging myself so i dont type this again

[bronze plume]

Nav

[mystic halo]

there is

[normal tangle]

assuming p0, yeah?

[mystic halo]

with no food too

[bronze plume]

Yes

The bp weapons are the 2nd bis foe the 3 limited units

[normal tangle]

got u

how far behind is wedge, out of curiousity

[drifting quest]

wedge is ahead

p0 vs p0

[dry kindle]

Bet

[grand mica]

Anyone have Yvonne rotation?

[dry kindle]

[normal tangle]

getting different answers from different people now

[mystic halo]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1WGz9BHEGq

[drifting quest]

yeah rhodan

[mystic halo]

yeah

cause it's not happening on the others

[atomic kraken]

guys am i goated or what

[near ether]

Hey guys, which weapons would you pick for ake / wulf ?

if there are better weapons in shop, i can get them as well. If you need details on any of the weapons let me know

[plucky pagoda]

what is gilberta for besides nature app? why does she apply lift, and why do her dmg buffs increased based on vulnerable stacks?

[drifting quest]

fraud rhodan has trims for every team

im pretty sure

[plucky pagoda]

clannibal

[dry kindle]

My honest reaction

[plucky pagoda]

and thermal cutter

clannibal is wulf akekuri is thermal

[drifting quest]

lift generates vuln
lift is like lore stuff for her over practical effect

[dry kindle]

This is gimped timeline as well pretty sure

[mystic halo]

maybe with all units 90 and full essence + artificing

they will be able to get close

to dorito trim

🙂

[drifting quest]

i feel like they would have in cbt2 if they were gonna

[dry kindle]

Triangle

[drifting quest]

i dont think there's any new trim clears on live

[tender swallow]

[plucky pagoda]

oh yeah i know what angelina does, i just dont know the practical effects since you wont be able to max out her arts susceptibility effect?

[drifting quest]

future proofing

[plucky pagoda]

future units maybe?

[plucky pagoda]

ic

[tender swallow]

What are artifacting priorities for levi ?

[dry kindle]

Woe 800 phys surtr trims upon ye

[drifting quest]

right now its just a cute nod to angelina

[drifting quest]

wewillcheckmedal~1

[bronze plume]

There is for the event coming out

[drifting quest]

yeah i mean

recrisis

[dry kindle]

At least the lr trims take hands to use

[tender swallow]

[bronze plume]

Well i mean onv there wont be more for recrisis

[drifting quest]

there could be

[near ether]

Thermal? am i blind

[dry kindle]

I just need to no hit every boss

[indigo steeple]

is it better to prio level 90s or essences after main team is all 80?

[drifting quest]

plenty of teams didnt drim dorito or statue in cbt

[dry kindle]

[plucky pagoda]

its from the weapon box

[mystic halo]

hands(begging for dorito to not fly half the map away)

and for skill to not just miss randomly

[drifting quest]

i sure do love popping surtr ult right as the boss decides its heading off to france

[indigo steeple]

which team?

[near ether]

this one?

[dry kindle]

Your fault for playing surtr

[drifting quest]

true

[tender swallow]

Isnt clannibal for dps wulf

[dry kindle]

Wut

[drifting quest]

but i gotta shill for every arknights reconvener or descendent

[bronze plume]

clannibal is just wulfs bis no matter what'

wulf is a subdps in the first place

[tender swallow]

Yep

[mystic halo]

it doesnt really matter what weapon is on him

[drifting quest]

isnt obj the tech now

[bronze plume]

dont listen to the crackheads that say hes a maindps

[drifting quest]

ult gain

p5 build aah but you get it

[near ether]

i don't see a thermal?

[drifting quest]

wrong selector

[bronze plume]

thats the wrong one gang

[drifting quest]

it was in the beginner banner one

[grand mica]

whichever you feel is the most opti

[dry kindle]

Fund my p6 stanza

[drifting quest]

fund my p5 wulfgard

[tender swallow]

Yeah but when we issue weapon crates it's not like we might get clannibal

[drifting quest]

deal

[indigo steeple]

if you have gilberta you can do the nature yvonne team but i dont have her and dont know the rotation lol

[dry kindle]

Mines already p4 and I don't have laev

[drifting quest]

i probably lose hard economically in that trade

[dry kindle]

😭

[bronze plume]

thats why theres more options then clannibal

[drifting quest]

i have p5 alesh

lmao

[grand mica]

well then the rotation you know pls XD

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

clannibal is just his best option doesnt mean you have to run it gang

[tender swallow]

Thats why I'm using his 5 star weapon 🤣

[bronze plume]

and that

is fine

[dry kindle]

Anyway time to answer the question of det vs stanza

By just using both

[drifting quest]

im high pot on untis i dont plan to use and low pot on the ones im interested in

[indigo steeple]

i run yvonne xaihi LR ardelia

which is xaihi skill, LR skill, final, lr skill, xaihi combo, yvonne skill, then spam the combos and ults for buff is kinda the main rotation

[tender swallow]

What are artifacting prios for levi ?

[drifting quest]

stanza usually wins if not matching elements

[bronze plume]

you mean her gear?

[near ether]

this one ? 🙂

[drifting quest]

det sometimes cant be run at all

[dry kindle]

Yeah but fuck you im running both

[bronze plume]

man who da hell cares about the prio of those

[dry kindle]

[bronze plume]

if you care about the awnser to that im not the guy to ask

[dry kindle]

Its that shrimple

[drifting quest]

the prio is whatever you can afford

the rng is terrible

[near ether]

is thermite cutter what u guys consider thermal ?

[grand mica]

word ty

[drifting quest]

thermite cutter is the sword in question yes

[dry kindle]

Lr yvonne comp

[near ether]

thanks

[dry kindle]

💀

[bronze plume]

just roll heads 4head

[drifting quest]

ive played limbus im not rolling heads

[indigo steeple]

just make sure to use yvonne skill before LR combo

[indigo steeple]

is it that bad

[drifting quest]

the horde

[bronze plume]

neither does verg

[tender swallow]

tbh u aren't, i just wanted to annoy people

[drifting quest]

reading comprehension diff

[bronze plume]

you are doing a bad job at it

[dry kindle]

I don't think it can get any worse

[indigo steeple]

why

[grand mica]

cause the compete for freeze stacks right? got yah

[bronze plume]

verg vs a roach who would win

[mystic halo]

I have like 5 chiv spirit

and only 2 stanza

[wanton trout]

Thermite Cutter is better than Edge of Lightness on Akkekuri in a Heat team?

[indigo steeple]

yea the lr combo would eat the inflictions, but her cryo infliction is the cheapest in the game

[bronze plume]

who weapon is stanza

is that a orb unit

[mystic halo]

generic 5*

[drifting quest]

kim ji hoon loves to give vergilius the hardest fights

[dry kindle]

Yvonne is already bricked by default without gilberta

[drifting quest]

yeah let my man run it against the purple tear, the black silence, a weapon of the wings

he's got it

[bronze plume]

fraud of a colour is what verg is

[indigo steeple]

well what would you run if no gilberta lol

[dry kindle]

Man goes from rolling 100s to 10s

Fraud

[dry kindle]

Guess

[drifting quest]

waiter waiter give vergilius another easy fight against 0 blood sancho

[bronze plume]

cry

[indigo steeple]

the cryo team cannot be that bad lol

[drifting quest]

clueless

[dry kindle]

Yeah it isnt

When it's rite

[mystic halo]

there are only 2 cryo units in the game

unfortunately

[drifting quest]

one of them is secretly a nature unit

[dry kindle]

More like 1.5 because people love getting hit before xaihi buff

[grand mica]

how is it bricked w/o Berta?

[drifting quest]

there's no good cryo enablers

last rite is cope

[mystic halo]

yvonne has no teammates and no buttons to press

she just gets cancer and dies

[bronze plume]

even with there fucked up teams

cryo is still better then phys and electric

[drifting quest]

soon tm

[bronze plume]

we live in a society

[drifting quest]

how is cryo better than phys

[bronze plume]

stop while you are ahead gang

[drifting quest]

one has like

2 trim clears

one has hundreds

[bronze plume]

well you see when you have everything maxed and make 0 mistakes

[indigo steeple]

arent all of these before the balance patch tho

[drifting quest]

phys still wins?

[bronze plume]

and somehow during yvonnes ult

the enemy just doesnt attack you ever

[drifting quest]

no just dont look at the potentials

[bronze plume]

yvonne can be good

just somehow dont get targetted during her ult

[drifting quest]

i need to check on my ginseng

so i can do dorito run

[bronze plume]

id never use physical or cryo tho tbf

[indigo steeple]

what team are you running rn?

[bronze plume]

maybe phys if it didnt use lifeng

[indigo steeple]

like main team

[drifting quest]

laev

[indigo steeple]

is it that much better? i have both lol

[drifting quest]

vs what other team

[near ether]

i ran out of weapon xp, character xp. life is hard

[indigo steeple]

yvonne lol, i have p1 yvonne so ive been tryna make it wrok

[drifting quest]

good thing no one else needs levels

[drifting quest]

coughing baby vs hydrogen bomb for recrisis

closer for umbral monument

[near ether]

i switched teams today, i been memeing with last rite, endmin etc.

[drifting quest]

the rest doesnt matter you can clear it with catcher solo

[indigo steeple]

is endgaming farming the recrisis stuff?

[near ether]

Ardelia is p1 rest are p5

[bronze plume]

no

endgame farming is energy alluvium

[drifting quest]

currently its trimmed clears for flex purposes
eventually it'll be umbral monument for rewards

[drifting berry]

Only reason I could be pulling for Gilberta is because of Yvonne abysmally horrible team options but seeing what character were introduced on Wuling and Rossi I do not dare to spend anything else during this version.

[bronze plume]

i dont even think they made umbral reset bros still a 1 time reward

[dry kindle]

At least it takes hands to use

[indigo steeple]

is it more important to farm these than getting team to 90?

[drifting quest]

id expect the cbt2 ones are permanent and then 4/5/6 are rotating

but who knows

[dry kindle]

Plzno

[drifting quest]

energy alluvium is the sanity sink

[bronze plume]

id hope so id like some kinda rotating game mode

[drifting quest]

but its also just set up turrets and go get a drink

[dry kindle]

Lr vs multi target

[drifting quest]

everyone's main is washed compared to HE grenade tower sentry tower meta

[bronze plume]

nah ardelia solos HE grenade tower

if dolly decides to do anything (he wont)

[mystic halo]

gilberta it's top 1 unit

can gather enemy for he grenade tower

[dry kindle]

Gilb sig

[bronze plume]

does that make lifeng 2nd?

[drifting quest]

dolly's fraudulent compared to other beast lords anyway

[bronze plume]

dolly's not fraudulent

[dry kindle]

Caster sheep:

[bronze plume]

he just doesnt give a shit about life

maybe thats why verg is a fraud

[drifting quest]

featscaling

to that degree some of the others are worse

[dry kindle]

Welp

[drifting quest]

mio and woof have done like nothing

[dry kindle]

I need to do every chest and thingy for xp

[drifting quest]

high priest active detriment

[dry kindle]

Who made the sanity regen fuckin 200

[bronze plume]

high priest

but its just a bird

[drifting quest]

shrine spirit is just a shipper

[mystic halo]

oh nah 40 pity on artificing

for 4 more int?

hell no

[drifting quest]

yeah

lock in

come up

[dry kindle]

Have you tried winning

Its only like

[bronze plume]

lock in bro

we didnt have a pity in cbt2

[dry kindle]

23k comps to max 1 combatant

[mystic halo]

I onetapped it on the other piece so I didnt know it was

[grand mica]

who are the best applicators in the game for each ele atm?

[dry kindle]

[mystic halo]

fucking FOURTY

[dry kindle]

38

[bronze plume]

i thought it was 20 for the last upgrade

[dry kindle]

6/12/20

[drifting quest]

its only 2k components and 320k stock bills

simply be richer

[dry kindle]

The fuck

[bronze plume]

gang what

[dry kindle]

Wait is that auxiliary stat

[bronze plume]

what piece is that

[mystic halo]

yeah I dont know what to tell you brother

it's main

ult charge seal

[dry kindle]

+40 main?

Oh yeah that's probably why

[mystic halo]

yeah it's ultra cursed LMAO

[dry kindle]

So same pity as normal piece

Just funnier

[drifting berry]

idk probably, Chen, Wulfgard, Perlica. Do not ask for Cryo/Nature because there aren't any good ones

[mystic halo]

and I will get FOUR int if I succeed

[bronze plume]

welcome to the endgame

[dry kindle]

What else you gonna do with 20k components

[bronze plume]

4 int W

[dry kindle]

Dont forget they can just add lv90 sets next region

[mystic halo]

I am farming essence instead

[drifting quest]

artifice your gear only to find out that the gear set is suboptimal

[mystic halo]

and retiring to yazhen farm

[dry kindle]

They're not mutal anyway

[drifting quest]

nice

wrong one

🔥

[bronze plume]

i slapped the energy set on ake

i wanna spam a flare gun while my enemies die

[drifting berry]

Endmin got tired of my trying

[drifting quest]

honestly if it hits a good enough breakpoint ill probably do it too

[mystic halo]

I overartificed charge rate

[bronze plume]

i still dont know wtf to give wulfgard

besides hot works

[mystic halo]

I could have gotten a whole six extra useless essences from those bills

[dry kindle]

Ult bot

[indigo steeple]

to etch essences, do you basically jusat try and find one with all 3 of the stats and then just etch it from there?

[drifting quest]

depends how much int you lose

[bronze plume]

hes the same as ardelia and akekuri

damn

[drifting quest]

bonekrusha if actual sub dps

ult gain pieces otherwise

since ult is an extra laev combo

and at p5 its extra heat infliction

[bronze plume]

laevatain and her 3 ult bots + a sheep

[grand mica]

are the other colors bad because the units themselves just dont do anything except apply the infliction?

[vernal mortar]

how is everyone in this peak channel doing

[bronze plume]

i need 2 more wulfgard dupes already

[vernal mortar]

top 1 channel of server oat frfr

[raven otter]

can you clear the puzzle please, i will solve it for you

yo beef how are doing

[drifting quest]

9 stew meeting's

[bronze plume]

idk who you are gang but good

[vernal mortar]

real

[vernal mortar]

LOL one in originium science park had me like that too, got it at the end tho

[gritty olive]

so surtr doesnt skill

for now

[drifting quest]

hold laev n5 till after ake skill for the heat infliction

then you can laev skill

[mystic halo]

Time to restart valley 4 hub essence farming spot 24/7 without actually using sanity

just to farm worm meat

🔥

[drifting quest]

slug meat grind

life

[bronze plume]

what are wulfgards used stats strength and what

[gritty olive]

str wil

[drifting quest]

str agi is the stat ones

[gritty olive]

i dont understand. is this after laev 2nd N5?

[drifting quest]

that n5 isnt yoinking any heat infliction

[gritty olive]

ah sure

[drifting quest]

if you just wait you get the infliction of ake skill

[gritty olive]

doesnt that mean i will have corrosion and heat infliction on the enemy?

[drifting quest]

yes

corrosion isnt an infliction so it can stack with inflictions

[gritty olive]

i just coded that there can only be one

[drifting berry]

Cryo doesn't have a reliant applicator like Chen or Wulgard are, same with Nature.

Of then the option that you have Last Rite for Yvonne teams or Fluorite can work, but they come with a lot of disadvantages, like Last Rite not making use of any other part of her kit other than her battle skill, while also requiring another SP support like Akekuri or fluorite having a 40s cooldown on her combo skill.

There is also Xiahi with in theory is a Cryo enabler but she required 2 full combos to apply 1 cryo which is a joke and idk about the other cryo character to be honest.

[bronze plume]

corrosion is a reaction not a infliction

[drifting quest]

its the same way perlica electrification can stack with heat/cryo infliction

yeah

[bronze plume]

ardelia just force applies it

[drifting quest]

solidification electrification corrosion combustion