theorycrafting

[charred fractal]

anyone can explain to me like, whether last rite benefit from perlica or fluorite more, i have fluorite upgraded but thinking about dropping her

[drifting quest]

Fluorite helps to produce more cryo infliction stacks via her combo skill

Perlica helps to increase sp regen via a minor amount by fielding her to do basics while you use skills, but mainly her combo skill applying electrification to boost arts damage

The other option is Akekuri, who is a generic vanguard to help SP use costs

[strong warren]

how important is level 90 in this game

my laev is 80 rn and i'm wondering if this is one of those games where the last few levels are exponentially harder

[drifting quest]

currently entirely irrelevant, impossible to say for the future

l80 isnt even really required as of right now

[sly nymph]

do we just all-in the mainstay

ie agility

[mighty widget]

Guys, besides Lavataine, who else does aoe do good things?

[floral saffron]

for laev, do i artifice int or battle skill damage

[tacit cargo]

cant find this lmao. or the website is typo? suppose to be ultimate dmg bonus

[sudden lichen]

a lot of people are sleeping on Yvonne's potential. But Last Rite isn't bad either.

[vernal torrent]

yvonne has been a monster for me lmao

that ult is absurdly strong

[tardy swift]

Which set do you get for a support wolfgard?

[hexed hazel]

it's in the game, did you maybe not find the crate for the gear bp?

[drifting quest]

bonekrusha

[tacit cargo]

read the 3rd line. not the same as Ultimate DMG Bonus. since there is Ultimate Gain Efficiency

[hexed hazel]

oh, sorry my bad, didn't read what was after ultimate
I guess the site you're using has a typo like you said

[empty trail]

Anyone know if Catcher uses Former Finery would he be able to activate the Lynx set?

[gritty olive]

Has anyone figured out the full dmaage formula

[tardy swift]

thank you!

[thorn shore]

should i be building wulfgard in laev team as support character or dps character?? i could choose a couple of things that make him consuming combustion with his bskill improve laev dmg output but idk if trying to fit that into a rotation would be too much sp drain or not

[barren brook]

Which is better for Avywenna? Max potential Cohesive Traction, or one JET? Cuz I'm deciding on whether to get JET for her since she's on my main team, or get Detonation Unit for Gilberta for my second team

[drifting quest]

sub dps that mainly does combo skills and ults, can sometimes slot in an enhanced battle skill but its rare and requires spare sp

[thorn shore]

yeah trying to fit in the consumption skill feels not possible

between ardelia and antal recasts taking every inch of spare sp i have

but idk what other set to put on him then

another hotworks i guess

[drifting quest]

swap antal for akekuri

removes his sp consumption and generates more sp

[thorn shore]

nah thats not worth

antal damage buffing goes crazy

[drifting quest]

cant say i relate, has not felt good for me

[thorn shore]

it feels fine for me so far its just wolf is a bit weird on how i should build him now since he isnt really using his main dps skill, the enhanced bskill, but his enhanced bskill is also his only real way of adding any extra value

[drifting quest]

akekuri over wulfgard would probably be better with antal, realistically

[thorn shore]

so i guess i build him with hotworks to capitalize on ult comb and heat inflic

[drifting quest]

3p bonekrusha is probably still better

[thorn shore]

honestly might be the play

cus then i can run the regen sp gives 15% dmg buff set on her

depending on how much she triggers it that is idk

[drifting quest]

pretty often

[thorn shore]

how much dmg does his bskill even do unenhanced

[drifting quest]

should be 100% uptime

[thorn shore]

idk my wolf is still like level 60 thanks to me fully investing in laev

[drifting quest]

i cant say ive paid attention to wulfgards damage

it's enough to notice his dpr but not really individual skills

[thorn shore]

it looks like her combo and ult only trigger it no?

and combo only happens on stagger right

so either stagger or ult

for a 15s boost

[drifting quest]

you can hit a stagger every 15s in most content, some of the bosses can sometimes not hit the thresholds though

[thorn shore]

yeah these level 90 bosses are not getting their ass staggered every 15s

thats what im really planning around rn in preparation for any harder content cus rn i shred anything pretty much

only seems like the content thats already a joke would hit the 15s threshold\

figuring out how to optimize wolfs dps is a pain in the ass tho

[drifting quest]

it doesnt have to be a stagger

[vernal torrent]

oh yeah this is why they dont recommend 4 crit @sudden lichen

you can level up the stats so you can probably max crit with just 2

[thorn shore]

wdym

[vernal torrent]

can buy 200 attempts at 12k credits each, not the worst but wuling economy seems weak rn so idk if its worth immediately over upgrading your stuff first

[drifting quest]

there are stagger nodes that dont fully stagger the enemies

[thorn shore]

the []?

[vernal torrent]

kinda bricked on this rn lol

[tardy swift]

Which stats do I want to focus on upgrading? idk really how this fully works

[vernal torrent]

imo for healers, will (if they scale on it), attackers id just yeet the bottom effect cuz some pieces give crit rate and more is always better

atleast, that's what I'd do personally...

[tardy swift]

works for me

[vernal torrent]

tho wuling economy is fried for me lol

so idk if ill be mass buying the attempts

[thorn shore]

i hope level 2 ramps up the economy a lot but hard doubt

i got engraves to buy need that perfect one for laev

[drifting quest]

it does a bit but not hugely so

[olive beacon]

Which weapon should I use for these three?

[drifting quest]

~15-20k/hour income, ~200-300k via redistribution

[thorn shore]

wolfs combo skill applying heat burst by far does more damage than his unenhanced bskill i think

[drifting quest]

thats with 2 setups making batteries, one setup making syringes, no stockpiled resources since your yield is less than your usage

[thorn shore]

so probably hotworks is the play

[tardy swift]

For support wolf which combat abilities should I focus on? I'm guessing combo is important but idk what else

[thorn shore]

i dont wanna make a syringe farm im using all my ferrium for power purposes🥀

[stiff pollen]

anyone know which turrets are worth using for outpost defense

[thorn shore]

does transferring batteries work as reliable power

idk how long 1k batteries will last like 5-6 batteries

[drifting quest]

if you're always online yes

but wuling batteries dont need ferrium

[thorn shore]

oh transfers only work online

bummer

[drifting quest]

if you mean the specific transfer feature you get 30m/power per hour/transfer

i assumed you meant manually carrying batteries via your backpack

[thorn shore]

i meant regional transfer

[drifting quest]

capped by lack of mines and hence capped on originium/ferrite

1 wuling battery powers it all, hence the 1/min usage

[thorn shore]

didnt even think about wuling batteries giving power tbh i assumed they didnt since yknow theyre not really electrical

just fucking herbs and soil combined

[timber orchid]

which set should I use on surtr, Tide Surge or Hot Work?

[drifting quest]

3p hot work

[thorn shore]

but yeah thats smart

[drifting quest]

it'll brick when i need more xiranite components but thats an issue for a month from now

[thorn shore]

yeah artificing can wait

m1 security could be a play

build him with random crit shenanigans

for no apparent reason

[vernal torrent]

u cant make 15/20k an hour cuz they only refill like 5k an hour dont they?

[drifting quest]

probably, i havent logged in regularly enough to see when its depleted

[solemn harbor]

Do we have a trading chart? like what to exchange for the ingame stores such as event shop and stuff?

[drifting quest]

at the very least it was 15-20k/hour before

[vernal torrent]

this what mine says @drifting quest

[thorn shore]

could probably run a yanzhen, battery, and ineffecient component farm then

so stupid that efficient component farm takes both forges

[drifting quest]

probably about the same then

[vernal torrent]

i run a yazhen battery and efficient component farm

how are u struggling

[drifting quest]

i should probably swap out a battery setup for a component setup then

[vernal torrent]

i made around 3k components in like 9 hours overnight of sleep

[thorn shore]

bc to run a max efficiency gearing thing with no stops it needs both forges pumping xiranite into it

[vernal torrent]

do u guys not use the blueprint in blueprints?

or do you do your own thing

[thorn shore]

dont get me wrong im making components

just not full as fast as it could be

everything else is getting clogged waiting on the one forge to catch up

[vernal torrent]

i mean ey 3k components for me overnight is more than enough when it only costs 50 per lol

[drifting quest]

ill do my own where possible, if im being lazy or want to get off ill blueprint and tweak later

[vernal torrent]

problem is the bills im bricked by

[thorn shore]

yeah its just a bummer more than anything

back in my day we could place as much of whatever i wanted!(valley 4 days i miss you)

[drifting quest]

im capped out on valley 4 too lmao, usage equal to yield

[strong warren]

skill priority for her?

have people figured out whats a good stopping point for levelling operators

like how in genshin it's not worth going for lvl 90

or maxing skill levels

[thorn shore]

80-90 and the 3 mastery nodes is when things start getting outrageously expensive

[strong warren]

hmm so it's also a leave characters at lvl 80/90 in this game?

hmm ngl i'm not really sure what to farm now

it doesnt seem worth to bother with levelling other team mates

and it feels too early to start hitting the rng affix mines

[thorn shore]

@drifting quest idk how u power this all on 1 wuling battery

im at 2k with component 1 battery farm and med farm

[abstract heart]

Anyone mined out the affix stats yet?

[thorn shore]

and all my ziplines and miners out doing their thing

[drifting quest]

2 xiranite farms
1 battery 1 syringe 1 component
1.48K / 1.8K

i have nothing else apart from those 5 setup

[thorn shore]

yeah idk how

[drifting quest]

2 battery isnt that much difference

[thorn shore]

fair

[drifting quest]

losing 1/min yield isnt a ton

[thorn shore]

do u use t1 elec miners on originium??

i just spam t2 ik theres a power diff there but i figured it would never be substantial

so i crafted tons of t2s and spammed it on every ore

[drifting quest]

yeah just t1 for originium

[strong warren]

i have 12/min battery 6/min syringe and component and it only uses 1.8k

idk how you are getting that much

[thorn shore]

thats probably it

[drifting quest]

yeah i was on 12/min battery 6/min syringe

[thorn shore]

theres no possible way to hit 12/min on batteries and make components

[sudden lichen]

it is very substantial

[drifting quest]

now its 6/min battery, 6/min component, 5/min syringe

[sudden lichen]

don't use t2 miners on lower tier ores

[strong warren]

yeah i have them at 2/3 efficiency

when i dont need components i just block the machine with item control

[thorn shore]

fair

but ye its my miners def making the difference then

so annoying

[olive beacon]

What weapon should I use for each of them based on what I have?

[sudden lichen]

you can figure that out

[olive beacon]

Ok

[thorn shore]

OH WAIT DUDE IM STUPID

wolfs basic combo finisher gains sp

he runs the sp gain set easily

no need to spam enhanced bskill

basic attack is treated as a skill right?

its located under the skills tab at least

i cant test this tbh my wolfs not even able to equip gold gear im just tryna figure it out

[open herald]

If im not in wuling yet which equipment set is best for ardelia from the blue/purple ones

[drifting quest]

increased will

[ripe adder]

pov = support character

ran out of exp cards because everything is expensive with lv 50 gear this game is cruel

[dire wind]

does the skill recovers sp proc if its a combo skill? or battle skill only

[drifting quest]

no

[dry mist]

If I have last rite alr do I need to get Yvonne?

[hexed terrace]

Is hot work bait for lae? Tide fall seem better

[last shoal]

Do I even need to level weapons on supports, since it only provides attack?

[drifting quest]

no

[drifting quest]

3 hot work is ideal

[drifting quest]

differs per char

[hexed terrace]

I forgot she does combust dmg

[dry mist]

But are their dmg similar?

[drifting quest]

yvonne and last rite in cryo teams use the same supports, but yvonne can also run a nature team with gilberta

as for which is better, too early to really say but I would lean towards yvonne, especially in the aforementioned nature setup

[sick nexus]

I have a question would it be weird for em to say that I think Alesh could get better if we get a dedicated shatter dps

Since that is what they seem to be making him

That or a unit that applies a lot more ice stacks

[dry mist]

I see but not getting Yvonne and sticking with Last rite is fine right?

[drifting quest]

weird? no
depends exactly on what said dps does as to if it makes him good or not, but would definitely make him better

[sick nexus]

Yes but if you get Yvonne both last rite and Yvonne can work well together

[drifting quest]

yvonne and last rite dont work together

[sick nexus]

Oh Wait I forgot both consume stacks

I thought they did

[drifting quest]

they both want priority over sp and cryo infliction stacks

so it clashes

you can cope with both but it requires jumping through hoops in gameplay

[bold rose]

like this?

[drifting quest]

im personally on lynx slab in kit as the flex piece because ive yet to see any energy breakpoint calculations so i dont understand where the ult gain matters, but yours should be fine

[lusty kernel]

Anyone have ember build

[bold rose]

what about her teammates
Arde I assume want Eternal Xiranite for amp?
Ake wants Frontier for SP?
Wulf I guess Hot Work again for sub-DPS?

[drifting quest]

or 3p bonekrusha on wulf

[sick nexus]

What set should I give xaihi

And flourite

[bold rose]

honestly I'm betting my house on Rossi being a pyro vanguard support to replace Ake in Laev comp eventually
change my mind

[drifting quest]

she probably is, based on what we've seen in trailers and the cutscenes

but we wont know until she drops

[grave flame]

How much damage do we gain from primary and secondary attributes? Is it a significant amount? If not, I guess artificing it isn’t really a priority(and i guess leveling to 90 too)?

[dry mist]

Do I pull for Last rite weapon? Or better to save?

[bold rose]

we've seen her wield a sword and with that color scheme she's either pyro or phys

[dry mist]

All I have is a 4 star weapon for her

[drifting quest]

her damage trails in one of the trailers is red too, fwiw

[grave flame]

seems like not much

[vestal sail]

if Im using hotwork 3 piece, whats the difference between these two? I seem to get more overall attack stat from the first build but all of the guilds im seeing recommends lynx slab even though the main stat from the first build is much higher

[sudden lichen]

tbh both are hybrid with nature at this point, there's not enough cryo support to justify not using xaihi and ardelia for LR or Yvonne

[drifting quest]

Yeah ice is just not good right now
Yvonne pref triple nature lmao

[sudden lichen]

heat guard

[sudden lichen]

well, I'd say we have 2 strong cryo points, but the rest is very little choice

3 if you count alesh cryoshatter team

[bold rose]

I think heat vanguard more likely
to replace the ake/antal spot in laev teams

[drifting quest]

I do not

[bold rose]

bc obv they're setting her up to at least be 5* if not 6*

[drifting quest]

Fire vg prob boots ardelia before akekuri

Wulf ake (2nd vg)

[sudden lichen]

lul, she's obviously going to be 6*

[bold rose]

she's gonna be the klee of this game

inb4 we get her mom too just like we did alice

[sudden lichen]

I feel like this could be a last rite scenario

I hate her character but pretty fun gameplay

[bold rose]

I know she's not a reconvener but rossi is kinda projekt red-coded

or I should just say both are little red riding hood coded

[sudden lichen]

cough SilverArdashir

[bold rose]

Aradashir feels more Logos than SA for me

[drifting quest]

Vermeil + Projekt Red, generally

[sudden lichen]

He even says he comes from Kjersh

(Talos 2 kjerag)

[bold rose]

ah
must have missed that part

[drifting quest]

Copium Kjera alter in the other ak game

[sudden lichen]

Well we know she's there, I think the feranmut too? They call it Mother

[drifting quest]

Sami itself went but idt we ever heard kjera going

We know there are other feranmuts (xiranite is feranmut powered)

[bold rose]

copium Frostnova

likely right?
cryo is underpowered rn and she's the obvious fan favorite to bring back

[sudden lichen]

xiranite was made with a proxy

[drifting quest]

Frostnova likely wasnt recorded in originium due to how early she left the main story

[bold rose]

she still dies of oripathy
anyone dying of oripathy is recorded in originium

[sudden lichen]

Seeing how Exwife is Shu coded, she might be the proxy mentioned and Fangyi's mentor

[drifting quest]

All proxies we know have been generally geographically close, from memory, but maybe its just one of those things

Im thinking like

Ya's proxy stuff

[bold rose]

didn't Xiranite name drop Sui specifically

[drifting quest]

Given the whole vibe of wuling though it seems to be an obvious setup for a sui sibling

[drifting quest]

I missed it, if it did

[bold rose]

as in the one that split into the sibs we know

off the top of my head I'm not in game rn so I can't check

[drifting quest]

There was a prerelease theory of fangyi being shu's stick

Maybe they were cooking

[bold rose]

forget reconveners, give me old hag Warfarin right now

[sudden lichen]

it mentioned a feranmut proxy (so a suibling)

[drifting quest]

Sui's not the only feranmut

Doesnt have to be a sui sibling

[sudden lichen]

This is a Yan colony

[drifting quest]

I would expect it is, but not guaranteed

Most feranmut are yanese

Part of the whole yan lore

Sui betrays most of them yada yada

[sudden lichen]

A feranmut proxy involved with the Tianshi bureau and critical development research?

It makes no sense it's some random feranmut

[drifting quest]

It would be a yanese feranmut with ties to yan, not really groundbreaking

Again I agree its likely a sibling, just dont assume it to be true till confirmed

[sudden lichen]

(with access to the highest levels of authority)

[rapid nacelle]

I got ember and I love her but everybody says she sucks. Is it a mistake to choose sundered prince from the selector?

[hasty stirrup]

Is someone know the damage calculation ?
Like is there is some multiplicative bonus that incentice different buff ? or just focus on the bigest number ?

[dark yarrow]

I have 2 weapons for surtr should I combine them or not?

[worn seal]

Do we know how much Breach raises phys damage?

[languid pasture]

how big are the difference in like BP or free 6* weapons vs signature in procentage do we have an idea? is it big?

[graceful island]

Guys can we not regrow reed rye and fire buckle??

[hasty stirrup]

what do you mean. In the factory ?
no, it need to be done in the farm

but one plot regrow after being harvested

[graceful island]

How do i unlock farm?

[hasty stirrup]

Science Park (third main map in Valley IV)

[graceful island]

Thx

[dry mist]

Fine to use this 10 pull right?

[gleaming talon]

Yeah it's only for this specific weapon banner

You can actually see the name

Of the 10 pull voucher

[sudden lichen]

why is there a flood of random help questions today

[sonic roost]

hello everyone is wave tide the best thing i can use for her until i get her signature?

[last shoal]

I've been debating whole day is antal or akekuri better choice for my Laev?

[shrewd pike]

theorically endmin pot 2 or last rite pot 2 better guys?

[lucid flower]

What is the chance to pull yvonne

[drifting quest]

Not high

[stable lark]

is this the best weapon for wulfgard

[uncut hedge]

The best 5*. Only these are better, you also can check it in "recommended"

[sweet oxide]

is it worth running alesh with yvonne for the minor sp regen? I get his combo skill off of estella's combo, but I feel like the extra dmg from ardelia might just be better, at a cost of much worse SP economy

[sudden lichen]

no it's a terrible pair up

[sweet oxide]

is it really that bad? I get the one solidifcation proc from yvonne, which then triggers estella + yvonne's combo. Estella shatters which triggers Alesh's combo, before yvonne re-solidifies

Like I know I'm never using Alesh's skill but yvonne + estella already seems pretty SP hungry

[sudden lichen]

what even is the use of alesh here

also that means you don't have enough slots for xaihi and ardelia

[sweet oxide]

Minor SP regen and a bit of dmg

[sudden lichen]

which are mandatory for cryo team

[vague bridge]

oh hi orian

[lost heart]

Aurdelia is mandatory?

[vague bridge]

hey orian is endmin/chen/pog/dapan ok

[sweet oxide]

Ardelia is good but actually keeping up her corrosion consume makes me feel like I have no SP to play with at all

[sudden lichen]

anyway, it seems pretty mediocre to me. The team doesn't really focus and goes with physical and arts damage, not to mention the vanguard isn't really used

[sudden lichen]

sounds very solid

only missing is lifeng, but that's the second best phys team option I think

[vague bridge]

who would lifeng replace

i’ll get the twink when i’m in wuling istg

[sudden lichen]

unsure, probably endmin? But I speak out of guessing

[vague bridge]

awh, ideally i’d like to keep endmin in the team

[sudden lichen]

yeah I haven't used a phys team really so I can't say the better picks in those 5 ops

[stable lark]

endmin or dapan

whats the best gold gear set for laevatain

[drifting quest]

3p hot
Or 3p tide
Ive yet to see a strong argument for the latter

[lucid flower]

Dies anyone have like a rough estimate what percent it is to get yvonne rn

[drifting quest]

Sub 0.8%

Or well

Its 1/16 per 6*

Or 1/15 if the rates arent biased

[vernal mortar]

I need another Cryo character to come out, who applies Cryo Infliction on combo skill, which would trigger off a final strike.

I just crafted the best rotation ever with Last Rite, in the last hour since I pulled her in standard banner off a lucky 10 pull (THANK GOD 😭).

But it's only possible to hit 3 stacks with Last Rite's 1st Talent buff, with the characters released so far, instead of max stacks which is 4.

It just means I get 6% Cryo debuff on enemies instead of 8.
And at max investment, it's then 18%* instead of 24.

I just came up with the most busted team in the game imo (heavily RNG-reliant on getting Last Rite though):

Last Rite, Xaihi, Ardelia, Fluorite* (ty @sudden lichen for fluorite rip)

• Min investment without ults:

6% Cryo debuff + 9% Cryo amp+ 7% Cryo dmg up + corrosion

• Min investment, with ults:

7.2% Cryo debuff + 20% Cryo amp + 7% Cryo dmg up + corrosion

• Max investment, Potential 0, without ults:

12% cryo debuff + 15% Cryo amp + 10% Cryo dmg up + corrosion

• Max investment, Potential 0, with ults: 👀

18% Cryo debuff + 39% Cryo amp + 10% Cryo dmg up + corrosion

With Pot5 Xaihi, it's 14, 25, 20, and 44% Cryo amp, in order from the top respectively (Min, Min with ults, Max, Max with ults, respectively).

Most Busted and most low-cost team imo
Only RNG needed for getting Last Rite.

@desert ermine @carmine lynx @river crag And all other Last Rite mains

Ping if you want rotation but I bet you can figure it out

[lucid flower]

Thx so ill need to reroll a lot haha i need an early it needs to be an yvonne somehow 😂

[sudden lichen]

use fluorite instead of snowshine

[vernal mortar]

Lifesaver

Good point

[sudden lichen]

you don't need another cryo with Last rite skill, and her ult is plain useless because solid has no use for last rite

[vernal mortar]

yep that's obvs, the rotation isn't about freeze

I just need 4 stacks of Infliction, ty for fluorite

[sudden lichen]

fluorite combo skill allows you a very brutal combo with little cost

[vernal mortar]

yepyep

[sudden lichen]

use xaihi skill on start, do a final strike+last rite skill, it triggers ardelia, keeping attacking and do another last rite final strike while using ardelia skill (thanks to sp refund), it will give 2 cryo + xaihi combo + fluorite combo = 4 cryo with ardelia vuln applied at the same moment

[vernal mortar]

The point of all that yap from me was (as highlighted in bold) my surprise at the insane amp amount from Pot5 Xaihi and the synergy with the skillweaving Last Rite.

[sudden lichen]

then use xaihi ult for more damage, ardelia ult, last rite combo into ult

[vernal mortar]

The rest I've already figured out

[sudden lichen]

ye

it's a really nice team overall

I miss yvonne but I don't regret making a last rite team

it was worth the thinking effort

[vernal mortar]

Exactly what my rotation was loll

[normal nymph]

50/50
You either get her or you don't

[sudden lichen]

I don't have a good 6* weapon for ardelia so I'm using the stanza one that buffs different element ops when she uses her ult, kek

[lucid flower]

Either get her,gilberta,leva or another standard 5 star lol but ih well

Leva is also cool

[normal nymph]

Every pull that is not a guarantee is a 50/50

[lucid flower]

If i get her instead its fine

[normal nymph]

Gacha math

Stay addicted

[lucid flower]

Lol

[bold rose]

best copium weapon for last rite that isn't her sig?

[sudden lichen]

the fallen kingdom one (?)

it's obtainable with selector too

[vernal mortar]

Xaihi battle skill > last rite ba ba ba ba > battle skill > final strike > ardelia combo skill > ardelia battle skill > last rite ba ba ba ba > final strike > xaihi combo skill > Fluorite combo skill > last rite ba ba ba ba > battle skill > final strike > last rite combo skill (4 stacks cryo infliction to Cryo debuff conversion, 24% debuff) > Xaihi ult > last rite ult > keep basic attack, skill, final strike string combo on last rite while also > fluorite battle skill > Fluorite ult > Ardelia ult

[glad pond]

Is the fluffed jincao powder the best tactical in the game? It heals for 20% + 1278, which is way higher than the buck capsule A (891).

It's a bit of a pain to mass produce, but the yields from jincao plots aren't that bad (~1.5 per plot)

[vernal mortar]

With my Last Rite team, I'll have:

• Max investment, with ults: 👀

24%* Cryo debuff + 44% Cryo amp + 10% Cryo dmg up + corrosion

[sudden lichen]

why is xaihi ult after last rite combo?

does it not last long enough for both combo and ult?

[vernal mortar]

It's a placeholder for whenever Xaihi ult is available

If it's available earlier, I'll use it earlier

[sudden lichen]

ah

[vernal mortar]

But if not, I will use it before last rite ult for maximum last rite ult dmg

1.8k% dmg wtf

[sudden lichen]

also I don't see ardelia conversion in the cycle

[vernal mortar]

Yeah, cause her battle skill will take too much SP

I wont have enough for last Rite's 3rd battle skill

Assumption ofc

[sudden lichen]

3??

[vernal mortar]

I've yet to test it

[sudden lichen]

don't you need only 2

[vernal mortar]

Oh wait, yeah, cause fluorite

Lemme edit, Ty

[sudden lichen]

that's why it's so solid, the sp is just enough to pull off the full combo

[vernal mortar]

I mean last Rite's second battle skill

Not 3rd

[sudden lichen]

full pot last rite gets even more sp refund iirc, so it's broken then

[vernal mortar]

Almost confused me there, yeah I wrote it right the first time

Since I get 2 inflictions from last rite, and then 2 from Xaihi and fluorite cskill

[sudden lichen]

in the cycle, you should have enough if you use her second skill then do ardelia skill, because sp refund

[vernal mortar]

Yeah, 30 so refund so I probably can

But I'll see

[sudden lichen]

that's what I'm doing currently ye

[vernal mortar]

Gotta play it first instead of playing it in my mind

[vernal mortar]

Peak

You're a beta tester right?

[sudden lichen]

being using that team for some days now

yeah I played beta 2

but I didn't get last rite then

[vernal mortar]

I'm just coming up with all this now after obtaining last rite an hour ago lolll

Yeah fairs. Wasnt there any boosted rates for beta testers?

[sudden lichen]

no

[vernal mortar]

So you could test more characters

Rip

Cope beta test

[sudden lichen]

overall it is identical, with the added improvements

[vernal mortar]

No free 6*

[strong warren]

whats the best farm for 80-90 materials on laev

theres a re-crisis with it and also a protocol space

[sudden lichen]

wym

[strong warren]

whats the difference

[sudden lichen]

from my memory you get more from the protocol because more chances for extra drop

[vernal mortar]

Yeah but I noticed the wiki is still not updated and has beta test 2 values for Xaihi talent 1

[strong warren]

like i need 20 blue boxes and both of these give it

[sudden lichen]

for sanity spent

[vernal mortar]

It's 10% and 15% on the wiki instead of 7% and 10% in-game

So Xaihi got a nerf

[sudden lichen]

can't believe they nerfed her so much

[vernal mortar]

Yup

[sudden lichen]

jk she's still so good cryo teams need her by default

[vernal mortar]

Yeah she's still the best synergy

[stable lark]

whats the best gold gear set for laevatain

[sudden lichen]

especially because they give us ardelia for free

[vernal mortar]

But it makes sense they slightly nerfed her talent 1 buff because otherwise, it would've made this Cryo team SSSSSS tier for life

[vernal mortar]

Literally, didn't have a use for her until now

Can finally live my Cryo Supremacy dream

[sudden lichen]

I don't know the power differences with last rite/yvonne, laev, thunder, and phys teams. I wonder how they'd rank

[vernal mortar]

Me neither but with this amount of debuffs and buffs, last rite gotta be top

[sudden lichen]

we need to pass those to the rhodagn test

[sudden lichen]

depends, I heard phys was really strong too

[vernal mortar]

It iss

It was my first team

[sudden lichen]

and laev is apparently broken so it's hard to say

[vernal mortar]

But my first team is makeshift Phys, since no Pog or Lifeng

Just Ember, Chen, Snowshine and Endmin

It's a very funny and complicated team

[drifting quest]

Boy do I have bad news for you

[sudden lichen]

ah yeah, that's a strange team

[vernal mortar]

I don't mind if last rite team isn't the best. I do it for the character not the meta

[drifting quest]

Last rite is like the bottom of the 'meta'

Usable, not bad but its really unfortunate how dirty she was done

[vernal mortar]

No biggie, still fun for me imo

Yeah it is what it is

[sudden lichen]

I don't really get how the meta can exist when we can't even have maxed characters yet

[vernal mortar]

It's a 4 stacks vulnerability + shatter team I came up with after the tutorial on Thursday

[drifting quest]

Wdym 'we'
We have maxed chars

Whales have minmaxed
The rest of us have realistically maxed

E.g. l90, e4, all talents, sl9

[vernal mortar]

"Realistically" for players who don't work on Thursday or Friday, or work from home

[sudden lichen]

how did you sleep

it's been 4 days

[vernal mortar]

Trust me, these guys are built different when it comes to being a neet

[drifting quest]

Thats my secret

Long term insomnia

[vernal mortar]

I had 13 hour play sessions over the weekend and still didn't get as far.

[drifting quest]

Plus medication that doesnt work

[sudden lichen]

I prefer my health over faster progress fr

[vernal mortar]

[sudden lichen]

I been playing almost 13 hours a day yeah

[vernal mortar]

Well that sucks, gws

[stable lark]

+41% battle skill dmg bonus or +41 art intensity on laevatain?

[drifting quest]

Most no lifers myself included are at the AL50+ mark with 1 maxed team, starting on a second

[twilit quail]

Im working on a sheet, anything missing here that should be added other than teammate builds(which I will do)?

[sudden lichen]

I'm at AL50 too, but I'm far from being able to max last rite, let alone a full team

[vernal mortar]

Meanwhile I'm spreading my resources thin as usual and levelling* 3 teams at the same time now 😭

[sudden lichen]

unless you whale mats I guess, right

[vernal mortar]

The enemies are super easy so I ain't in a rush to max one team

[drifting quest]

All ive bought is bp and monthly

[vernal mortar]

Just want to have as much fun as possible on as many different characters, before endgame grind

[drifting quest]

Probably helps

Yeah no content is hard, and endgame is supposedly easier than current re crisis

So it should be chill

[sudden lichen]

depends

the umbral stuff is quite tough, more than recrisis

one has extreme damage enemies, one has extreme health loss

[drifting quest]

Huh, heard from a few people that live recrisis l90 was harder than cbt2 umbral

[sudden lichen]

the third is pretty easy (but fun)

did they change something? I don't recall recrisis being that hard

[drifting quest]

Its not really, as long as you can dodge

[sudden lichen]

I was using marble recrisis to test my yvonne team

[drifting quest]

Just slow thanks to all the bosses having multi phases

[sudden lichen]

what does the "meta" say currently?

[drifting quest]

Laev > physical >= yvonne nature > electric > last rite ice = yvonne ice

[sudden lichen]

yoo, yvonne glaze

she got buffed nicely

can't wait to do my 2 million damage yvonne video

[drifting quest]

Once gilb weap and yvonne weap is accessible it should beat phys

[sudden lichen]

funny how only cryo has 2 teams in meta

nature isn't standalone either

[drifting quest]

Mostly just because yvonne and lr are interchangeable on ice

Whereas other elements have a set 3-4

[sudden lichen]

ye, but it's nice to have that choice

I need my yvonne

[low copper]

so... with the current non existent endgame how important is artificing/essence etching, i'd presume you don't need to minmax as hard as games like wuwa or genshin to optimize chars with 80/250 crit or something

[drifting quest]

Not very important, wait for guarantees via vouchers from stock redist

Farm other stuff till then

[sudden lichen]

it is purely here for fun and waiting for new content

and for minmax freaks like us

[low copper]

im just struggling with keeping a steady supply of valley creds and xiranite components thanks to the very limited og ore and forges for now

personally think 1.1 content should've been included in release or be very near release whilst having a bigger gap between 1.1 and 1.2 to fit the banners but it's whatever

[drifting quest]

You can support 2 xiranite
1 battery 1 syringe (1 component or 1 more battery) and run at slightly subpar efficiency

[low copper]

yeah i have diff configs

[sudden lichen]

we're already getting some stuff though

[low copper]

we are?

[drifting quest]

Gilberta banner comes with 2 events, but they dont look to be very big ones

Plus endgame should drop at some point this patch

[sudden lichen]

I haven't rushed so I'm not yet at xiranite, so don't know the differences currently

[low copper]

one is purely batteries, and one is 4.5 battery per min going into depot with one powered the base, half capacity xiranite component factory running at 3 per min, and a syringe factory also running at lower capacity because well

lack of ferrium

[sudden lichen]

even with transfer?

[low copper]

transfer is too slow imo and it's very manual

[sudden lichen]

wym manual

I'm talking about meta transfer

[low copper]

oh right, that i haven't unlocked for valley 4 yet

but once i do get it, it's going to probably sustain my syringe production fully

[sudden lichen]

it patches up slow bleeding of uneven production incomes

[low copper]

yeah

[sudden lichen]

I remember using it to produce 1.2K(or was it 2.5K) orig pyramids each hour

[low copper]

it's so weird playing endfield after hours of satisfactory lol

slow ass belts and crafting rates

[sudden lichen]

didn't even bother producing it since it was covered by meta transfer

skipping the whole grinder setup is a bliss

[low copper]

i'll probably have enough capsules & HC valley batteries in 4-5 days to get infra red & plateau outposts to level 4

[low copper]

how quick is meta transfer

[sudden lichen]

slow

it's every hour, 2.5K value

but higher resources weigh more, so less amounts

[low copper]

so 2.5k og per hour

[sudden lichen]

yea

[low copper]

translates to* 40 og ore per min extra

hmmm

or ferrium

[sudden lichen]

wym

[low copper]

converting bw p/h and p/m

sorry

[sudden lichen]

usage is done in 30/m no?

[low copper]

what usage

[sudden lichen]

any usage

[low copper]

you mean belt speed?

[sudden lichen]

yeah

[low copper]

yeah

syringe factory eats up 120 FE p/m so it should prolly be fine

i already have a buttload of existing ferrium

[sudden lichen]

anyway, assuming you transfer 2500 of a resource, that's 83.333/m income

so if you have 40/m it's already covered

[low copper]

yup

[sudden lichen]

but it's also really handy for the cheap but complicated resources like orig pyramid

to save up on power use and space

same for stable carbon iirc

[low copper]

first time i haven't had to use a spreadsheet or notepad to store my numbers to calc outputs and inputs because of my shitty attention span

slow belts and lower ore output means smaller numbers

i love this game

[safe sonnet]

Does free 10 pull urgent recruitment is going to carry to next banner?

[sudden lichen]

also since you haven't unlocked it yet, do you know that meta transfer generates from nothing?

You don't need to be producing it elsewhere

[low copper]

wait what the fuck?

lmfao

[sudden lichen]

it's like getting a creative source with limited rates

[low copper]

i mean not like im short on extra space in valley 4 infact plateau outpost is completely empty right now but

that's funny

[sudden lichen]

it is really handy yeah

[low copper]

meaning i don't need to setup extra factories

[sudden lichen]

I used it for the orig pyramids to make xiranite components without needing to actually make orig pyramids

[low copper]

very neat but i don't think people would mind it either because you end up with too much space anyways if you're working ultra efficient

the only thing im annoying about wuling is the fact that you can place the depot buses only inside the AIC area and not outside like valley 4 but for the meanwhile and future it's fine because the second expansion is massive anyways

[low copper]

😭

[sudden lichen]

I like how wuling changes the depot bus mechanic

less space inside, but a lot more flexibility

[low copper]

yeah that as well

[sudden lichen]

I hope you haven't been making it a basic line of depot buses

tetris that shi

[low copper]

i do it to organize my factory but once i actually do have a need for space or design i'll do it

this isn't lore tc

[sudden lichen]

hello this isn't the lore channel

[kind portal]

oh wait

sorry

[low copper]

what i wish for is for gryph devs to give us at least one more forge as of now

[sudden lichen]

we'll have to wait a little bit I think

[low copper]

would appreciate full capacity xiranite comp production whilst keeping my batteries running

[low copper]

yeah 1.1 looking in march is a bit dire

[sudden lichen]

we can't max out production easily when we barely have 2 maps of the region

valley 4 has 5.5

[low copper]

no doubt though people will likely have gotten enough wuling stock bills till 1.1

and would switch to full xiranite comp production

i'll likely max mine to a couple mil and get a single xiranite plant running

aic expansion 2 not even needed

[low copper]

yeah and it is a bit annoying considering with artificing you will be eating a shit ton of resources especially if you want to pull and build multiple chars and not just one team

i'll why i just gathered enough to get simple gold gear sets for my laeva team and got rid of the production in favour of more batteries to get those bills up

[vernal mortar]

@sudden lichenI guess its ideal i get this weapon if im gonna hyperinvest in last rite?

got enough for 8

[eternal sluice]

can somebody explain to me what the difference between arts dmg boost and arts intensity is

[sudden lichen]

yes

[vernal mortar]

i guess this is arts dmg boost ^

correct me if im wrong

[eternal sluice]

but where does arts damage boost fit into this

[sudden lichen]

it does not

this is different

[eternal sluice]

im confused then

[sudden lichen]

yes

[eternal sluice]

how am i supposed to choose between arts intensity, art dmg %, and elemental dmg % then for farming essence

[strong warren]

chat this doesn't seem worth

[sudden lichen]

you choose by what you need

[eternal sluice]

how do i when i dont even know what the difference between art intensity and art dmg % is 😭

[sudden lichen]

the text is quite explicit though

[eternal sluice]

there is literally 0 mention of art dmg % in that text

[sudden lichen]

wut

why would there be

it's for arts intensity

[eternal sluice]

...ive literally been asking

what the difference between those two stats are

[vernal mortar]

#theorycrafting message

basically, draethful asks a valid question

[sudden lichen]

there

arts damage is just arts damage

[eternal sluice]

i saw quite clearly and there is no mention of what arts dmg boost does

[sudden lichen]

because... it's a damage boost

[eternal sluice]

i understand that intensity is like elemental mastery from genshin

but what is dmg %

[sudden lichen]

why would you need an explanation for it when it's literally the name

[eternal sluice]

so im asking how specifically does it work

because they both boost art dmg

[sudden lichen]

no

[eternal sluice]

so which one would i even choose and when

[sudden lichen]

arts dmg % is just an extra % added to arts damage

[eternal sluice]

okay BUT HOW?

[sudden lichen]

intensity boosts specific reaction/status damage

[eternal sluice]

and WHEN and WHICH do i choose?

[sudden lichen]

I feel like you're trolling at this point

it adds a % to the damage

it can't be more simple than that

[vernal mortar]

there are weapons in the game with skill effects that say "Arts DMG boost" instead of "(Arts name) DMG Bonus%"

[strong warren]

damn least elitist gacha player

[vernal mortar]

they are asking why its differentiated that way, and whats the difference

[eternal sluice]

youre just ignoring my question

im trying to choose the correct substat

[sudden lichen]

wait that's a different question

[sudden lichen]

I thought this was about arts intensity and arts dmg%

[eternal sluice]

if you arent going to contribute then dont say im trolling

[vernal mortar]

is this what you're confused about? @eternal sluice

cause im confused by it too now ngl

[eternal sluice]

i understand that those stats both influence reaction/arts damage

but i have no idea which one would provide more value for a character

[sudden lichen]

does your character use it? if not then basic % dmg is better

there's no answer because it's case by case

[eternal sluice]

laev on 3pc hot work

[vernal mortar]

i guess the first step would be to ask yourself,
"Does this character benefit most from physical statuses, arts reactions, and arts bursts in their kit and talents? If yes, > maximise arts intensity.
If no, then by elimination, > maximise "Arts DMG boost" @eternal sluice

[sudden lichen]

does she even make use of intensity?

I thought she only consumes and does high damage

[lost heart]

This makes so much sense

[copper cypress]

There is any weapon in game that trigger antal combo skill?

[vernal mortar]

nope

this is antal best wep

[eternal sluice]

so, a character that does more damage from having the presence of a status benefits more from intensity?

[sudden lichen]

main xaihi weapon it's so good

[vernal mortar]

yeah, is my theory at least

[sudden lichen]

no

this is different

[vernal mortar]

why not?

it says in the tooltip, effect enhancement/stagger +% for higher arts intensity

[eternal sluice]

i dont understand

[sudden lichen]

intensity boosts the reaction/burst/phys status damage itself

[eternal sluice]

i thought that it increases the actual reaction dmg

yeah

[sudden lichen]

yes

[vernal mortar]

it does

but it also boosts the added effects if there are any

[sudden lichen]

I guess the wording was not what you meant

it's referring to effects like yvonne that gains extra damage on enemies with solid/cryo

[eternal sluice]

is that where art dmg % comes into play or is that the same as intensity

im still confused by "does laev even use intensity"

[sudden lichen]

let's start again, things are getting confused

[sudden lichen]

Does laev trigger any burst or reaction

[eternal sluice]

because i know from using her that a lot of her damage comes from combustion

yes

[sudden lichen]

then yes she benefits

[eternal sluice]

so then

intensity or dmg %?

for her

or heat dmg%?

[sudden lichen]

by that you mean she triggers combustion, NOT that she deals more damage if the enemies have combustion, right?

[eternal sluice]

honestly

it could be that im wrong and ive just been using her wrongly so that she is triggering combustion

but i dont think so

i have to read her kit closely

[sudden lichen]

I don't have her so I don't know her kit sadly

[vernal mortar]

yeah we usually have to

[sudden lichen]

from the test trial they give, my impression is that she consumes heat from enemies to buff herself and deal high damage

so she doesn't do much for intensity

[vernal mortar]

i've read laev's kit but forgot the exact details.
from what im reading, im guessing arts dmg boost is better for laev overall more than intensity. cause intensity would just buff the damage over time effects of the combustion itself, while arts dmg boost would buff laev's entire kit and ult for a greater buff overall.

[sudden lichen]

yeah ok she does nothing with intensity

barely

[eternal sluice]

to me it seems like both tbh

[sudden lichen]

wym

[vernal mortar]

imo, she would do more with arts dmg boost if you read what i said.

[eternal sluice]

on one hand her skill forcibly triggers combustion, and on the other her combo does an instance of damage if combustion gets triggered

i dont know

[vernal mortar]

i know now

i remember laev's kit details

you'll be triggering combustion on laev team

either from ally combo skills/battle skills

or from laev's melting flame stacks

because the stacks require 4 to trigger combustion

it will take longer for you to trigger combustion damage from laev, rather than her overall kit which you'll be using to deal heat dmg more often

thus, my idea is really what i said before, she benefits more from arts dmg boost

it comes down to dps imo

[eternal sluice]

then why wouldnt you go for heat dmg boost

[versed surge]

She still there after long time

[vernal mortar]

my assumption is arts dmg boost is a general term for "all arts-related dmg including heat"

thats the difference

and i've experienced that in-game

[eternal sluice]

then the % is probably lower than if i just picked heat dmg % right

[vernal mortar]

so go for heats dmg boost or arts dmg boost, whatever has the higher % essence will be better

[vernal mortar]

yeah

[copper cypress]

Is aburrey set applied only on on the equipped character or the one who use combo/ ultimate skill?

[eternal sluice]

that probably also means i should switch off hot work

[vernal mortar]

whatever aligns with what we just said

im gonna pull now, you're welcome, cya

[sudden lichen]

because you need to do the maths, but it's equivalent for an op that deals only that damage type

[vernal mortar]

precisely ^

its specific dmg boost vs general dmg boost

[sudden lichen]

depends on the wording

[eternal sluice]

alright i get it now

i just wish there was more theory on the internet specifically for laev cuz theres almost nothing useful out there

[vernal mortar]

well yeah since the game just came out

XD

im still new to the roster and just spamming hypotheses

and finding beta testers who mained laev (if she even existed in the beta), will be like finding a needle in a haystack

[sudden lichen]

that's the most fun part though, figuring out what works better

[sudden lichen]

Yvonne beta players were the real rarity, a lot used laev

[eternal sluice]

https://arknightsendfield.gg/character/laevatain-build/

this is where i got most of my information about laev from

it does mention using hot work so i really have no idea what to think

[sudden lichen]

you should look at skport I think

[eternal sluice]

let me look

[vernal mortar]

fairplay

lucky u then

[eternal sluice]

skport just links this one

[lucid flower]

Do yall think nefarith will ever be playable

[normal crag]

who has a strat of defense towers in automated outpost defense?

[versed surge]

Does crafting battery count as crafting theory ?

[sudden lichen]

Please keep the random stuff in other channels, this is for technical talk

[hexed hazel]

is it better to focus on one stat completely on every piece of the set I use or just try to push all stats of one gear piece after another?

[sudden lichen]

Stats that benefit you more

[hexed hazel]

alright, thanks!

which food buff is best for leavatain?
I think perplex medication would be better for longer fights but for bosses or shorter situations maybe kunst tube is better, but I could be wrong xD

[grave flame]

How much damage do we gain from primary and secondary attributes? Is it a significant amount? If not, I guess artificing it isn’t really a priority(and i guess leveling to 90 too)?

[daring dove]

Just hover over them it'll tell you exactly how much you're gaining in %.

Needless to say it's a large boost & over half your total damage.

[grave flame]

So, is it multiplicative?

[daring dove]

People go on about how great support weapons are that buff attack by 15%.

[grave flame]

i mean in final damage formula

[daring dove]

It's weapon's base attack plus ATK% added on top. Look at my Leavatain's damage with a level 1 weapon for example.

Then with a 60 weapon.

[hexed hazel]

I'm pretty sure this is her best set with the armor as the off piece

[heavy fossil]

how much stagger does knockdown and lift deal?

[grave flame]

I see, thanks for explaining. Btw, about Laev are there any actual ultimate gain efficiency breakpoints for her? Is there any reason to use off-set ultimate gain efficiency gear?

[heavy fossil]

also are there characters that utilize crit?

[grave flame]

Yvonne

[charred wigeon]

is that her best build or LYNX Slab better?

[hexed hazel]

that's the stat difference if all the pieces remain upgraded, and I'm sure the higher intellect is better

[charred wigeon]

but there's also the piece effect

[hexed hazel]

do you mean the sub stats it has?

[charred wigeon]

no, the different effects such as +% heat dmg, basic attack dmg

[hexed hazel]

from the fight's I had the ult gain was better to have, but don't think we have the damage formula, so I can't for sure tell if having the extra heat% is better then the extra intellect

[charred wigeon]

currently I feel like the ultimate has too much damage and outside of it its too low, so yeah I think finding balance would be the best

[glacial hatch]

is doing double Eternal Xiranite fine? it doesnt stack so i imagine not? what should i run on Antal and Ardelia on the same team?

[empty crag]

So what is yvonnes best team? And does it require gilberta

[sterile rain]

Do you think she's at the c3 and with her sig weapon, can compare in strength to Laevatain c0 and with her sig weapon?

[charred wigeon]

dupes are considerably weak on this game, so don't expect too much of an upgrade, but its surely nice to have, not sure about how strong is her compared to laevatain

[thorn shore]

does tide fall armor effect proc before heat burst?

so if wolf applys 1 stack with bskill then 2nd with combo does the heat burst triggering off his second application get buffed

[daring dove]

That purple set is really nice of Laevatain, it's a shame the gold set doesn't also have a SP refund once per battle.

[thorn shore]

falls off after the fight takes more than 30 seconds

[harsh depot]

Hey guys! Does anyone have any really good team build setups for Laeva, Antal, and Flouride yet? Not all on the same team, necessarily, just looking to make teams using the good character I got, and my fave designs so far.

[daring dove]

Just never have a fight take more than 30

But yeah for bosses I can see it

[undone mason]

Is it better to be focusing on keeping breach uptime or should I be using crush more often?

[daring dove]

I have her P3 as well, but haven't tried her yet. But yeah I don't think she's keeping up with Laevatain she seems to be in a league of her own pretty much regardless of potential rn.

[thorn shore]

last rite i think is used in a yvonne team right?

maybe then things can equal out a bit more between the two

[rotund yoke]

Doesn't both consume cryo stacks?

[undone mason]

Yeah they kinda conflict

[daring dove]

I think they changed Yvonne in live so they now fight each other.

[thorn shore]

damn i was just going off random team builds i found on google when i searched, thats sad

[rotund yoke]

Ye both are strikers so they each want cryo stacks

[thorn shore]

last rite and ember both getting immediately gapped by first limiteds

[rotund yoke]

Last rite was good on cbt2, got nerfed to make Yvonne shine

Ember's ass since the beginning 💀

[undone mason]

her kit is so boring 💀

[rotund yoke]

Her kit is a mess

[undone mason]

ardelia being better than her on phys team is just sad

[thorn shore]

im so tempted to pull on gilberta but also i shouldnt bc shes a support character that u dont get to control and shes not even that good compared to ardelia

it sucks gilberta turned out to be the only ass banner char

shouldve nerfed ardelia into the ground

!!!

[formal quest]

[daring dove]

Just wait I'd say chances are the next batch of characters massively buff the current batch in some manner.

I suppose with Gilberta we'll likely know what the next batch of characters do before her banner is over at least.

[thorn shore]

dont really pull on assumptions of the next batch

[thorn shore]

i hope so

[formal quest]

well we know theyre gonna cash grab with exusai

[thorn shore]

then again if zhuang fangyi whats her name is in the next batch fuck gilberta

i save for my xiranite queen

[rotund yoke]

5th anniversary, old lass exu

Nah real cash grab is Reconvener Frostnova

They'll be printing money

[daring dove]

This game works off 2 month update cycles right?

[rotund yoke]

It's like 50 days

17 days banner, 3 per patch

[thorn shore]

can confirm after googling

exusai is a skip

this frostnova person

is a definite pull

[rotund yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[thorn shore]

exusai is like a schoolgirl cosplaying mercy

except shes a school shooter

[rotund yoke]

Nah she's the og #1 favourite character in ak

Specially JP

She always win on jp popularity polls 💀

[thorn shore]

she had to be insanely strong i assume

[rotund yoke]

She was

Then the Defense nation attacked

[atomic kraken]

Guys what essence should i search for Lae weapon?

[thorn shore]

essence is straightforward match all 3 stats to wep stats, hers u farm in wuling

using precious wuling stock bills sadly

[rotund yoke]

Then 6th anniversary happened and they gave her an alter

[valid zealot]

Do we have dmg formula for phys status.

[thorn shore]

easiest skip of my life

[atomic kraken]

this one?

[rotund yoke]

She's meta and also her banner have her sister which is also a fan favourite

[daring dove]

I really want the boxing girl to be honest, as long as she plays like Tifa in Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth.

[rotund yoke]

I hope mi fu is physical

[thorn shore]

i find this hilarious though

baby angel shooters

[atomic kraken]

so any essence is fine since i see a lot of essence type

[rotund yoke]

Patch 2 is probably Tangtang, Mi Fu, and Zhuang Fangyi

[thorn shore]

engrave the correct stats for laev sig and pray

[thorn shore]

i hope so god i need zhuang fangyi, especially if she starts doing whatever the hell she was doing when she was controlling the pillar array

the other 2 are mid but zhuang i need

[rotund yoke]

Electro is currently missing a 6 star

[atomic kraken]

so for example like this, is this the right essence or what

[thorn shore]

int attack twilight

is the stat line u need

[rotund yoke]

Ye twilight

[atomic kraken]

whats twilight

[rotund yoke]

Her weapon passive

[thorn shore]

her sigs big buff

[atomic kraken]

where can i see this twilight

ahh

[daring dove]

I wonder if this game will evolve quite differently to Genshin & Wuwa since your characters are all on-field. I can imagine comps where having mutliple really strong DPS characters that don't block each others kits will actually be better than just having one DD & a bunch of supports.

[atomic kraken]

wait wtf you can upgrade those

[thorn shore]

yes thats what essence does

hence u need the correct 3 to upgrade them all

[atomic kraken]

aight thats insane

[rotund yoke]

Gonna be sp hungry, need atleast one VG

[fickle lava]

What if perlica was the reason of all evil? Her love for originium makes me sus of her. What if she wants to charm the endmin just so we give everyone oripathy with our factories?

[rotund yoke]

No that's Ghostlica
(Who's definitely priestess)

[atomic kraken]

so does lae need cr/cdmg ratio ?

[valid zealot]

No.

[rotund yoke]

Perlica is just some random ass homeless girl that endmin adopted

[valid zealot]

That is true I was Endmin's chair.

[rotund yoke]

That's like your last min max option

[thorn shore]

endmins nursing home caretaker

[fickle lava]

"Adopted". U mean she's daughter and not waifu?

[daring dove]

Mines only level 60 rn

[fickle lava]

[rotund yoke]

Canonically she is our new amiya

But whatever headcanon floats your boat

[thorn shore]

ive like full invested into laev and her sig theyre both 85 ish, my other characters are just now getting to the point where they can equip gold gear

[fickle lava]

There can only be one amiya, my headcanon will win against the rest

[thorn shore]

hell my antals wep is level 1

since he doesnt deal damage

[valid zealot]

Do I Endmin Pog or Endmin Lifeng or both.

[thorn shore]

he dont get the wep upgraded

[valid zealot]

Amp bot.

[thorn shore]

friggin nerd

[rotund yoke]

Both, then add Ardelia, or Pog, Endmin, Chen, Ardelia

[atomic kraken]

wtf you have max potential

[rotund yoke]

Or you can just fuck it and do no healer

[valid zealot]

I am doing no healer.

xdd

[rotund yoke]

Bet 😤

[valid zealot]

Endmin Pog LF Chen.

[daring dove]

Her banner & weapon banner blessed me.

[raven citrus]

Man I just realized only last rite autoes are bugged to not be cancellable, i was wondering why it felt so awful to play her

[valid zealot]

I got LF pot1 so doing fuck fckery here

[raven citrus]

every other melee character can cancel autoes with dodge

[rotund yoke]

If you want, you can replace endmin or lifeng with da pan

[atomic kraken]

now im jealous fr

[daring dove]

Also Leavatain seems like a character that actually breaks out of the mold actually having decentish vertical investment compared to the rest of the cast. At least for this early in the game.

[valid zealot]

Since I can Pog skill into LF skill, susceptibility still apply but save stack for endmin crush.

Or is it better if I just breach.

[thorn shore]

i got her wep first 10 pull and her in the 10 free pulls so now im like 40 deep into 50/50 pity with everything i want life is awesome

[raven citrus]

feels absolutely awful to not be able to do dmg for 5+ seconds because your auto wind ups are so long its calcharo problem again

[thorn shore]

i plan on using free banner only pulls to get that 50/50 down to 39 pulls so when i do a full 120 itll be two 50/50s before hard pity

mega loot

[valid zealot]

They gonna do the "just Surtr it" again.

[rotund yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/surtr-arknights-just-use-surtr-gif-24975177

[daring dove]

I wonder how big of an uplift Laevatains max potential sig actually is, I reckon it's maybe a bigger uplift to her damage than her potentials are.

210% extra damage to your normals in ultimate is no joke.

[valid zealot]

Also post E3 I should ditch Wulf for Akekuri right.

[thorn shore]

her final potential is pretty crazy

[valid zealot]

Or whatever

[thorn shore]

extra 7s in ult

[rotund yoke]

She was ass in cb1 that they had to rework her

[daring dove]

Situational on fighting multiple enemies though. Although to be honest her ultimate uptime isn't really an issue already. You can get 25 seconds out of it with correct play.

An the cool down is basically nothing the only thing she's missing is better batteries.

[valid zealot]

Do we have multipliers for phys status.

Sadge

[atomic kraken]

so what should i pick for lae?

[thorn shore]

thats fine now start praying to your god

[atomic kraken]

aight

this better be worth it

400 madafakin k

[thorn shore]

ur trolling

[valid zealot]

IremWaitaMeowment

Also at this stage shouldn't you be farming mats.

Not minmax rng bs.

[atomic kraken]

seems like okay?

[atomic kraken]

ye im just bored and wanna know stuff

its fine im doing this once

[thorn shore]

if u plan onn getting both dont really matter anyway

[daring dove]

Two outa 3 is fine, the important one is Twilight anyway.

[thorn shore]

plus evena bad 2/3 is big for now

[atomic kraken]

and i think 400k is pretty cheap no?

i got like 2 mil per day

[thorn shore]

whos gonna tell him

[atomic kraken]

idk wdym by that

[valid zealot]

You be the bad guy.

[thorn shore]

u sent the correct one here

[thorn shore]

and the wrong one here

[atomic kraken]

did i?

i mean i bought both

[daring dove]

Btw what's Art intensity as a stat, I assume it's like a DMG buff specifically elemental arts?

[thorn shore]

this cant be used

[atomic kraken]

so which one better?

[daring dove]

First one

[thorn shore]

https://tenor.com/view/suburbbaby-sbe-funny-ref-ref-do-something-gif-9647558707770546803

[daring dove]

It's not close really ATK boost is pretty mid when you consider how much ATK you're getting just from INT.

[atomic kraken]

i see

game is fun, i never had this type of gacha

at least i can craft my equipment and the stat is fixed

[thorn shore]

ur never gonna hit godroll on the valley 4 ones

[daring dove]

I really hope we get a gold SP refund kit for Laevatain eventually. Imagine if you can get close to 60-70% ultimate uptime.

[thorn shore]

do not use them

[shut cobalt]

what are the best dpses atm? (do not reply to this with prydwen tierlist, its the same as trusting a well known liar)

[atomic kraken]

dude idk anything about the stats of this game

[thorn shore]

hence why i am telling you

[atomic kraken]

so lets say theoretically i wanna farm them, which one should i farm

[thorn shore]

the wuling one

is the only chance at a godroll

[atomic kraken]

okay why the wuling one is better?

[atomic kraken]

wut

[valid zealot]

Only the wuling farm has essence compatible with Lae weap.

[thorn shore]

click this funny button and if the wep is shown as compatible then farm there

[atomic kraken]

ohh aight

[daring dove]

Batteries are the best thing to be making early game right?

[valid zealot]

Yeah.

[shut cobalt]

?

[atomic kraken]

battery and buck pill

[valid zealot]

Lae LastRite Yvonne

Look at what I got for Yvonne.

Sadge

[daring dove]

It's not a bad weapon at least.

[atomic kraken]

is there a difference between purple and gold one?

[valid zealot]

Yes because I specifically screenshot the good ones.

[shut cobalt]

?

[daring dove]

Is this ore the bottleneck for everyone?

Since you need it to run power cells as well.

[valid zealot]

Kinda.

They use originum for everything man.

Sadge

Except food.

[atomic kraken]

you really need that ore

[valid zealot]

Hell if it did not cause disease people might sprinkle it in their food too.

Grind em up snort like drugs.

[daring dove]

Yeah I'm kinda noticing I coujld really make a ton more batteries but if I do my oiginum will start to run out while I have infinite supply of other ore.

We need alchemy to turn excess blue & purple ore into Orignum.

[shut cobalt]

that literally is prydwen 😭

[valid zealot]

They kinda are accurate on this one.

[valid zealot]

echBuon

[shut cobalt]

really?for once?