theorycrafting

[restive bane]

I’m wondering how deep and creative the mechanics are in this game.
Is it more simple and limited (like ||HYV games||), or does it have a lot of room for creativity?

[manic gorge]

U can combine lot of different chara to work on

[novel wave]

[vernal mortar]

https://www.skport.com/article?id=2014225919264740192

Hi!

I just came up with this team rotation/combo shortly after servers went live and in my first playthrough of the game (not a tester).
Looking forward to feedback or improvements if you can think of any.

Have fun with it as I did!

[vernal mortar]

It's one of the most creative and inspiring gameplay systems that I've had the pleasure of reading.

You're in for a real treat.

[rough terrace]

r

[pastel lichen]

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[gritty olive]

im currently doing a TC sheet
and im perplexed how a google hseet cant probably handle evrrything

because theres a lot of different ways to apply five elements for distinct effects, but i hope i get the sheet completed by next week

[sick nexus]

Compared to ||star rail|| yes but not sure about the other one

[sudden lichen]

They are quite complex

Each character is a complex system to learn, then you have to make 4 complex systems work together in synergy

then you have to execute said strategy in combat

[sudden lichen]

wrong channel man

[cedar meadow]

oh sorry

just wanted to say, this names should be here?

[sudden lichen]

more suited for lore room

[gritty olive]

Has there been people whove been recording animations time?

I kinda need em for frame counting how long something takes

[sudden lichen]

You can anim cancel, is it that relevant?

Well, depends which I suppose

[tacit cargo]

i think theorycrafting is about numbers

[exotic shore]

Wanted to know, I just got Laev and Yvonne, who's BiS 6 star weapon benefits the most ?

[ebon thicket]

Send acct as a donation to charity

[exotic shore]

So like is the BP weapon enough for Leav ?

[gritty olive]

More like i need how long each anim takes to tally total time for a rotation

Since ill be primarily googlesheeting everything

[sudden lichen]

bis?

[vernal mortar]

https://www.skport.com/article?id=2014225919264740192

Freeze and Lift, Physical DMG Nuke Team!

• Updated the team comp suggestions and optimized the rotation to make it even faster!

[frank shadow]

goat

[keen dust]

I'm waiting for that damage formula

[frank shadow]

I thought we had it, unless it’s just stat formulas

oh wait it’s from beta nvm it probably changed

[sudden lichen]

can't wait to see how yvonne was changed

Might need to change my team when I get her (I will)

[vernal mortar]

Isn't it in the attached Reddit post? According to this guide on SKPort?
https://www.skport.com/article?id=2012988376205851496

[keen dust]

oh

nice thanks

[final fossil]

Hi guys i want to ask i want to play mon physical team right now i play
Endmin pogni (i forgot his name 💀) chen and perlica (which i’ll replace her with ardelia later)
And i just pull liu feng is it good to put him in instead of chen? Or nah

[coral folio]

Yes Lifeng is a better replacement if your team has Mr. Poggers

[frank shadow]

or if your a real one run endmin, pog, lifeng, Chen and just dodgemaxx

[vernal mortar]

Da Pan is also a greater option than Perlica here, as his combo skill triggers at 4 (max) stacks of Vulnerability. Your mono Physical Team will apply Physical Status effects consistently and by extension, vulnerability quite often. So you'll be able to trigger Da Pan's Crush at it's maximum scaling a lot more often. But ofc, player preference and up to you to in the end.

[vernal mortar]

Real, the dodge window in this game is so massive. It's like PGR but for casuals.

[final fossil]

I still didnt pull him yet 😭

[vernal mortar]

Soon

I got him in first ten pull loll.

He's very useful. But sadly doesn't fit in my fever dream of Permafreeze PermaLift Crush Shatter nuke

[final fossil]

But if on day 3 i got ardelia my team will be endmin pog lifend ardelia right

[vernal mortar]

Yeah, her Phys susceptibility debuff is important for that team

You'll have to use her combo skill before you use her battle skill, to apply it.

I use the 4* version, Estella to freeze enemies first so I can shatter them.
I only need Gilberta.

[frank shadow]

I wanna get gilberta cause I love her design but I don’t like any of her teams rn

gonna commit the cardinal endfield sin and pull laev and then just dump whatever i have left over into gilberta

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-pray-praying-speed-ishowspeed-praying-gif-13671958547048242627

[steel trout]

what does [L] and [S] mean and stuff on weapons??

[vernal mortar]

You can make her own team instead like I did. Don't blindly follow what guides there are for her teams based off beta testers.
I doubt the team I came up with after the tutorial, is in those guides and it's still insanely fun and powerful.

[vernal mortar]

I'm lost on that, haven't looked into it.

[vernal mortar]

Also Gilberta is pretty versatile imo. Doubt she belongs in any one team only. And I'm sure she's a powerful addition to any team because of her insane CC and Lift application

[frank shadow]

yeah I’m hoping she will be good with a unit I like later

[vernal mortar]

I want her because she can fit in any team imo

[frank shadow]

worst case I do like avywenna

yeah my teams rn are lifeng main dps and laev so I don’t have a good spot yet

[vernal torrent]

is this team good but replace snowshine for the free girl on day 3?

[frank shadow]

Just make sure you can generate enough SP for LR and Yvonne

[vernal torrent]

i got a 6* in 3 multis on the fire girl banner but got yvonne instead lol, and i pulled rite whos my favorite design so i was wondering if they pair well together

[vernal torrent]

idk how to play im just spamming stuff

[frank shadow]

They can be super good they just need a lot of SP because they are both main dps

[vernal mortar]

As long as you don't apply Ardelia's (the free girl) nature DMG after the Cryo inflictions from the other characters, you're fine. Permafreeze team.

[vernal torrent]

i plan on trying for gilberta and replacing ardelia if i can get her

but id need to sav a lot of pulls and the game seems to make me work for even 1 multi lol

[steel trout]

small medium large, just looked at the endfield official wiki

[vernal mortar]

Game is hoarding oriented.

[vernal torrent]

so my main question is, yvonne works with last rite?

im going ice setup

since i pulled 2 ice 6 stars might aswell go that team

[frank shadow]

yeah they work just make sure you have a good SP battery

[vernal torrent]

also is it possible for me to pull yvonnes weapon or must i wait until feb for her banner lol?

[vernal mortar]

Sure, why not. I haven't checked their kits yet but the extra cryo inflictions should help your damage a lot. I guess Yvonne and last Rite would clash synergistically though because I bet both of them want to be on-field most of the time

[vernal torrent]

who are SP batteries

and how do i use them

[vernal mortar]

Vanguard type characters

You use their abilities as stated in their kits

Reading is a must

And only takes a couple mins.

[vernal torrent]

so this girlie?

[vernal mortar]

Vanguard type characters are the ones with the icon that has 3 claw marks, on the left next to their name

[vernal torrent]

ice has no vanguard hm

who could i use possibly?

[vernal mortar]

She's a supporter*so no. Doesn't regen SP.

[vernal torrent]

alesh... is he even good

[vernal mortar]

He's what the Devs used. Just because he's a guy doesn't mean he's bad.
I would say he's really good from what I saw in the livestream

[vernal torrent]

so for now this, until day 3 girl to replace maybe xaihi?

also how do i acquire yvonne or last rite's weapons? @vernal mortar

[vernal mortar]

Lord knows. I'm just as new as you 😂😂

Use the curated 6* weapon supply (6* weapon choice crates) that you will get from progressing the New Horizons event and reaching Level 40 Authority. (Idk how I know this)

I assume those crates have weapons in them, with Last Rite and Yvonne's names written all over it.
You'll have to confirm that yourself when you get it.

[vernal mortar]

Yeah, replace xaihi with ardelia and your freeze team there should be great.

[tiny crag]

Wow

You really lucky

[vernal torrent]

should i pull this for last rite or save for yvonnes

[vernal mortar]

LOL

Find OUT

Bro taking handholding to an unholy level 😭

We're all newbies here, someone get beta testers in here. Bet they are deliberately not here so they can avoid getting spammed.

[vernal torrent]

my bad lol....

[vernal mortar]

it's fine, I'm memingg

[vernal torrent]

i wonder how pity caries over

[vernal mortar]

The game is hella generous man, any irreversible investment you make in Last Rite or Yvonne will surely pay off

It doesn't 💀

[vernal torrent]

i know the 120 doesnt

does the 80 also reset?

[vernal torrent]

really?

lol

[spark hollow]

Yoo we talking about Yvonne?

[vernal torrent]

yeah i got yvonne

[spark hollow]

Currently running her with Alesh/Snowshine/ Flourite

[vernal torrent]

theres no weapon banner for her so idk if i go for her weapon and wait or try get last rite's rn

[spark hollow]

I had the 6* Handcannon "Wedge" so i slapped it on her

[vernal mortar]

Yeah, but I'd guess you'd better save for Yvonne's 6* weapon since she isn't a standard banner character and her 6* weapon is probably limited

[vernal torrent]

ooo i wish i had it lol

[vernal torrent]

wait theres also a weekly weapon you can buy upright

[spark hollow]

It boosts arts damage a shit tone

[vernal torrent]

maybe i wait and get it there tooo

[spark hollow]

What teams are u running with her gng?

[vernal torrent]

this rn

last rite is my all time favorite so far in the game

her design is SO PRETTYYY

[frank shadow]

I love her scythe

but I can’t betray my goat lifeng

[sudden lichen]

aren't they quite bad together?

Last rite needs max cryo stacks, yvonne needs to apply solid

[vernal torrent]

people givin mixed answers, lots of ppl on various places said good together, and u said not good lol

[sudden lichen]

couldn't be further apart in terms of synergy

[vernal torrent]

i kinda like rite more than yvonne lol

but as a limited i think yvonne is stronger no?

[sudden lichen]

unless yvonne significantly changed, it's possible, but in beta they were horrendous together

Yvonne is my way of life, she was my main for beta

very fun to play as focus

[vernal torrent]

i just wanna use my wife and my free limited dps together lol

[sudden lichen]

well, you can still use last rite and have yvonne as a glorified fridge

you just won't benefit from most of her kit

[spark hollow]

Omg Yvonne looks like a ironmouse

I can't unsee it now

[vernal torrent]

fr

i think ill prioritize using last rite over yvonne but last rite's gameplay is a bit slow

fav design tho

[vernal mortar]

Literally what I was implying earlier. Fr bro

[spark hollow]

Best i can do honestly, i don't have Xaihi

Flourite applies more cryo btw + she can apply corrosion as well

[sudden lichen]

From my experience, fluorite sucks for yvonne, and alesh isn't great either

Yvonne needs to be the one applying solid, so akekuri is top tier

[spark hollow]

Breh alesh is the best Cryo battery in the game

[sudden lichen]

you don't want cryo, you want solid

unless yvonne changed, she needs to be the one applying it to really benefit

[spark hollow]

And no she doesn't? She just consumes solidification to power her ult

Yvonne got reworked

[sudden lichen]

yeah I need to get her again to know

sadge

[spark hollow]

Snowshine is uhh kinda there cuz i don't have Xaihi...

[sudden lichen]

back then, she had to apply solid with her skill to get double damage

and trigger instant final strike

[spark hollow]

I feel like shes easier to use now ngl

[sudden lichen]

I need to see her new kit to say

for now I'm on cryo phys, making use of alesh and estella along endmin and snowshine

using the ones I had to snob during my yvonne days

(except snowshine, she's a good defender for yvonne)

especially because Yvonne's ult is stationnary, so you can trigger ult and use snowshine parry to block any attack and not get interrupted

[vernal torrent]

Who do you think does more dmg Last rite or Yvonne? Both seem cracked icl

[sudden lichen]

both work well

just choose the one you like more

though maybe she's more usable with last rite now that she's reworked

[orchid lagoon]

which character wants thermite cutter?

[sudden lichen]

you have a recommendation tab for operators

also, just look at the stats and play 7 differences

[orchid lagoon]

i dont own all the characters, i want to know if there's someone i might not own that wants will stat

[sudden lichen]

dunno, you'll see at some point if you do get it I suppose

[vernal mortar]

they know better, i havent played or own them yet to know

[vernal mortar]

So I came up with this shortly after servers went live and I finished the tutorial, and then spent the next several hours rotting in character kits cause my TC brain itch was scratched DEEP by the game's mechanics.
Feel free to use it, and the guide post will be updated on SKPort shortly.

"Vlatter"

• A maximum stacks Vulnerability+Shatter Endmin Nuke Combo.

Team Composition

Controlled Operators:

• Da Pan/Lifeng (Vulnerability Stacks/Phys Susc./Link)

• Snowshine (Forced Solidification)

Ally Operators:

• Yvonne (Forced Solidification)

• Ember (Knock Down)

• Chen Qianyu (Lift)

• Endministrator (Crush+Shatter+AoE)

Rotations

Expensive (Best) Teams

Rotation with Ember, Lifeng, Endmin and Yvonne:

Skill(Li) > Skill(End) > Take DMG > Cskill(Ember) > BA+Fin(Li) > Skill(Ember) > Cskill(Yvo) > Cskill(Li)

Rotation with Lifeng Ult and Chen Qianyu:

Skill(Li) > Skill(End) > Cskill(Chen) > Ult(Li) > Cskill(End) > BA+Fin(Li) > Cskill(Yvo) > Cskill(Li) > Ult(End)

Rotation without Lifeng Ult, and 300 SP:

Skill(End) > Skill(Li) > Skill(Chen) > Cskill(Chen) > Cskill(End) > BA+Fin(Li) > Cskill(Yvo) > Cskill(Li) > Ult(End)

Rotation with Da Pan UIt:

Skill(Da) > Cskill(Chen) > Ult(Da) > Cskill(End) > BA+Fin(Da) > Cskill(Yvo) > Ult(End)

Rotation without Da Pan Ult, and 300 SP:

Skill(End) > Skill(Da) > Cskill(Chen) > Skill(Chen) > Cskill(End) > BA+Fin(Da) > Cskill(Yvo) > Ult(End)

Cheap (Alternative) Team

Rotation with Ember, and Snowshine Ult:

Skill(End) > Cskill(Chen) > Skill(Ember) > Take DMG > Cskill(Ember) > Cskill(End) > Ult(Sno) > Ult(End)

Rotation with Da Pan and Snowshine Ults:

Skill(Da) > Cskill(Chen) > Ult(Da) > Cskill(End) > Ult(Sno) > Ult(End)

Rotation with Snowshine Ult, and 300 SP:

Skill(End) > Skill(Da) > Cskill(Chen) > Skill(Chen) > Cskill(End) > Ult(Sno) > Ult(End)

Important Note:
Each rotation is ideal on a high HP single enemy/boss and is also highly effective on groups of enemies.

Glossary

• Skill = Battle Skill
• BA+Fin = Basic Attack and Finisher repeatedly until you another bar of SP (100 SP)
• IgnoreCskill = Don't use the Combo Skill of labelled character, it will enter a long cooldown.
• Ult = Ultimate
• (Li) = Li Feng
• (Yvo) = Yvo
• (Da) = Da Pan
• (Sno) = Snowshine
• (Chen) = Chen Qianyu
• (End) = Endministrator

[vernal mortar]

it works so well

[foggy lance]

Any combo with last rite, Xaihi, perlica and ardelia?

[vernal torrent]

is there any weapon banners up rn for yvonne or nah?

[sudden lichen]

no, she's not even featured yet

[vernal torrent]

wo would i replace for the free girl tomorrow?

alesh or xaihi?

[sudden lichen]

personally, no one

xaihi already heals a bit, and this is a cryo team

[vernal torrent]

hm

would i replace any if i get the limited support coming out next?

[sudden lichen]

and ardelia is terrible for arts reactions, straight garb, she can't apply any infliction

good for corrosion teams

[vernal torrent]

what bout gilbrena

or whatever her name is kek

[sudden lichen]

I heard she's great

[gritty olive]

ok i have a very dumb question

[sudden lichen]

but I haven't seen her kit, be it beta or release

[vernal torrent]

ill level all 4 of them up

[gritty olive]

how "fast" does the sp bar generate just after a skill usage

[vernal torrent]

and probably try replace xaihi for the limited healer

[sudden lichen]

slow

[vernal torrent]

this seems very good for the battery right

he's a sword user

alesh

[gritty olive]

yeah i need SP/s gain

[foggy lance]

Ardelia is bad on a lr, perlica, Xaihi team?

Or only with Yvonne

[sudden lichen]

depends on your team

with yvonne, for sure

but if you're using ardelia, you prob don't want xaihi

two slots for similar roles and even less enablers for arts reactions

[viral laurel]

Whom do you play manually in Pog Lifang Chen Endmin team?

[oak quiver]

Is ardelia even good 😭 I got lucky with headhunter pulls getting two 6 star in one pull but it’s both ardelia

[vernal mortar]

rip

good for corrosion (arts and phys resistance debuffer) and limited healing, but practically unusable for anything else

[oak quiver]

Welp I just got giberlta from a single pull, since she’s nature is that corrosion team?

[indigo steeple]

is there any way i can use both yvonne and last rite? i have rites weapon, idk who is best to support

[gritty olive]

#aic-factory

those are the output gates of the main part

[limpid bison]

Whats a good weapon for perlica and xaihi for last rite team

[small karma]

I compared and found that last rite has the same performance as endmin dps

Very balanced👍

[tribal magnet]

excuse me, somebody can explain me the duplicate system in operators' token

[gritty olive]

wdym? dupes are just HSR eidolons

but unlike the 3rd and 5th being lame bonuses, its gone

[tribal magnet]

am asking about each token cost to upgrade from r1 to r5

[gritty olive]

like from potential 1 to potential 5? its one dupe per potential increase

i dont know what "r" youre talkign aboht here. refinement for genshin weapons?

[tribal magnet]

rank 1 til rank 5

[silent rover]

Will last rite get powercrept by Yvonne?

[slow wing]

Is last rite a must for Yvonne's team

[celest socket]

this weapon got any potential to make a phys team better than having ardelia?

[coral folio]

I'd say standard banner units will get powercrept by limited units

[vernal mortar]

• Updated SKPort post with optimized character suggestions, team alternatives, cheap Vs expensive options, readability, coherency, glossary definitions, more clarity and step-by-step easy-to-do rotation order using Fluorite (when the player does not own Gilberta)

https://www.skport.com/article?id=2014225919264740192

I've thoroughly tested it now, it's busted.

[lost heart]

Do you or anyone else have a more detailed comparison of the different MC weapons compared?
Are any E ranks ups required to see a benefit from some of those weapons?

[foggy lance]

last rite is a combo focused i think

[vernal mortar]

If I was a beta tester, I could help with that. But I ain't. Sorry

I'd follow what the in-game recommendations are

[lost heart]

I know what his recommened weapons are 👍 I was just curious if anyone had a more detailed write up of teh comparison between them rather than just "this is best, this is worse"

[vernal mortar]

Press N (if on PC) > Go to equipped weapon on MC > Click on it to enter weapon detail screen > navigate to bottom middle right of the screen > "Recommended" button , oh ok

[vernal mortar]

Well the Devs usually list the recommended weapons of gacha games in priority order

So the top one is probably his best weapon

Grand Vision or smth

And if you're ever unsure, just intuitively evaluate and compare the differences between the weapons based on his agility main attribute, the weapon's skill effects and how they improve his battle skill, combo skill or ultimate

Then ultimately the conclusion you reach, will be the best MC weapon

[sick nexus]

Currently no since last rite niche is oddly as a sub dps

[fierce charm]

what should the team order be for endmin, lifeng, chen and ardelia

[royal quarry]

i can already smell a flagbearer type of vanguard to make another myrtle situation

[candid oxide]

hey not sure what weapon to choose for a last rite and hopefully yvonne team and im still trying to pull last rites weapon

[river scroll]

this feel more like help channel than theorycrafting

[vernal torrent]

i dont understand why alesh would be used with vonne last rite teams. he restores sp yes, but doesnt he also use a full bar to cast his skill? i dont get any positive returns from him evenw ith 4 ice stacks no?

[sudden lichen]

Alesh seems amazing for Yvonne now that she apparently don't need to be the one doing solid trigger

But with last rite? Seems very meh

[sick nexus]

If I remember correctly alesh and last rite have anti synergy since nobody has consistent enough freeze application for it

[coral folio]

Oh boy that's a lackluster team.

2 strikers. really?

[sudden lichen]

well, they don't work together anyway, alesh is a solid enabler, not cryo inflict

last rite wants only cryo stacks

[coral folio]

One team only needs 1 striker

[vernal torrent]

theyre my waifus so im using them together

[sudden lichen]

but for yvonne alesh sounds amazing now that yvonne got reworked

[vernal torrent]

who cares for minmaxing stupid buffs

[coral folio]

Oh alright then, have it your way xD

[vernal torrent]

theres no content out rn to minmax

[coral folio]

[vernal torrent]

regardless

in that team could i use new girl or keep xaihi

cuz i like both so ill use whoever is better

[coral folio]

Depends on who your main is

Is your field character Last Rite or Yvonne?

[vernal torrent]

last rite

[coral folio]

If last rite, keep the current team.

[vernal torrent]

idk how to use alesh btw

he doesnt regenerate bonus sp for me

he uses a full bar and gives like 2/3 at max of a bar back :/

[coral folio]

Alesh is used with Endmin

Yeah he's kinda useless

Don't use him

[vernal torrent]

isnt alesh used with yvonne

[coral folio]

Nahh

They fight over who gets to consume solidifaction

[hushed lark]

does ardelia work just as well for physical teams as arts teams?

[vernal torrent]

hmmm

so who could i replace bro with?

snow?

[coral folio]

Nahh just keep him

[vernal torrent]

@coral folio would double support ardelia and girlie work

xaihi

[coral folio]

Just don't use his battle skill at all

[coral folio]

If you have Last Rite, not really.

Last Rite wants mono ice team

Xaihi works perfectly, but Ardelia is a different element entirely.

[vernal torrent]

how do i blow this up kek

[coral folio]

[sudden lichen]

that's wrong, alesh doesn't consume solid, it's estella

alesh creates solid from cryo, that makes him especially good for yvonne

[coral folio]

Oh yeah Alesh consumes cryo infliction

He's bad with Last Rite

[sudden lichen]

yeah

Until I can get Yvonne, I got a very solid cryo engine team with alesh and estella

[south ocean]

i got an early 6* on the 30 pity free 10 pull but it wasnt Laevatain, i know it doesnt progress towards the 120 pity, but does this mean im guaranteed now?

[coral folio]

No

It is only guaranteed at 120

[south ocean]

damn

[coral folio]

You can get 10 6 stars and still no Laevatain

[south ocean]

thats pretty brutal

[sudden lichen]

that would be incredibly good to have

there is only 7 6* to pull for in release

getting 10 6* means you likely get close to the whole roster

[indigo steeple]

does anyone have an idea what is the best LR team? i have been seeing SO many different ideas for comps (I have all the 5 and 4 stars as well as Yvonne/Ardelia. I have Last Rites Weapon hence why im not just moving to Yvonne)

[fickle forge]

isn’t last rite a very good enabler for yvonne? because she can freeze as well to get yvonne’s ult faster

[sick nexus]

I have a question does last rite want flurite

[sick nexus]

As long as last rite and alesh are not on the same team yes

[vernal torrent]

i think gilberta is better to go for since i got 2 6* dps right?

[normal tangle]

is there an actual tier list yet

[hexed terrace]

This should be laevatain best team right for now right?

[lime edge]

Any f2p teams and calcs?

[dry mist]

Is the Endmin team strong?

[lime edge]

https://endfieldtools.dev/community-builds/build/endministrator/?id=ccb0f92f-a2a9-469e-bff2-91b457600bd0

https://www.prydwen.gg/arknights-endfield/characters/endministrator

https://arknightsendfield.gg/character/endministrator-build/

Since he is ~top tier ig yes

Dunno if it's true tho

[sudden lichen]

last rite is pretty mediocre for yvonne. All she does is a glorified cryo stick, with a terrible combo

snowshine is much better

[vernal torrent]

but last rite is cute

and yvonne is cute

[sudden lichen]

I'm crying

[vernal torrent]

so surely we just run them together

[sudden lichen]

I just got my first 6* non welfare

[vernal torrent]

u got fire girl yet?

idk if i wanna go for my last 90 pulls to get her idk

idk if id even manage to get 90 lol... im gonna wait for the end of the banner to decide if i have enough

[sudden lichen]

of course, it had to be HER

Now I am forced to figure out how she works

[vernal torrent]

but shes so cute wtf

[sudden lichen]

I heavily dislike her character

[vernal torrent]

so far this team has no issues really

i can kill things pretty quickly

for now ill keeep using it until it doesnt work

[uneven patio]

Would Laevatain/Wulfgard/Ardelia/Gilberta work

Or does it need akekuri for SP

Lost first 50/50 to Gil so I'm trying to find an optimal team to slot her into

[sudden lichen]

I don't see the use of ardelia here

[uneven patio]

Alongside Ardelia

[sudden lichen]

so akekuri with it should be easy

[nova lance]

Wuts the leveling priority? Weapon>level>skill or smth else?

[sudden lichen]

gilberta is pretty great from what I heard

[uneven patio]

If so maybe the livestream team Yvonne/Cryo Filler/Ardelia/Gilberta will work

[vernal torrent]

is this a good set for now for xaihi?

[sudden lichen]

what you have mats for

it's all important

[vernal torrent]

will for more heals no?

[uneven patio]

So either last rite or xaihi

[sudden lichen]

xaihi for sure

you can't use yvonne and gilberta without xaihi

she amps nature and cryo

[nova lance]

Does gear matter in the early game?

[sudden lichen]

yes

[uneven patio]

Legit I kind of want to pull on Laevatain banner but lose to Yvonne

[vernal torrent]

decent set for xaihi for early right?

for will and treatment bonus

[sudden lichen]

I need her so bad, why game give me last rite

[nova lance]

Is electro team gud?

[vernal torrent]

im gonnna first wait and see if i get 120 before i continue

i did 30 cand got an early ssr so im not pushing it

at the very least i'd g et 1 more 50/50 before pity atleast

so 3 ssrs in 120 if i push it

maybe cuz of my luck i should actually go for it

[nova lance]

Shud one use non sets even?

[vernal torrent]

you could since sets are 3 bonus

im debating moving 1 of my pieces to crit rate

for dps

[nova lance]

Ah

[vernal torrent]

yooo this isnt so bad for last rite for now

[uneven patio]

Considering that it’s already meta and doesn’t involve any 6*s I’d say it can only get better from here

Once a limited electro hyper carry dps drops that team is Gnna go nuts

[nova lance]

Dem

I Shud just skip surtr then

[uneven patio]

Already have all 3 except for Yvonne. Once I get her my nature cryo will be complete

[uneven patio]

I mean it depends on what chars you have alrwdy

[nova lance]

Wuts the bis electro team?

I already have arvlight and avywenna

[nova lance]

Also I already have done 22 pulls on the surtr banner

It carries over to next banners right?

[fringe knot]

Just mono electric so add perlica / Antal for now

[nova lance]

Is ardelia not gud in electro team?

[fringe knot]

Unfortunately not sure who first one to go is cause they all have a lot of synergy

She's okay

But just like a sub option if you fail to clear no sustain

[nova lance]

Kill the enemy before it kills u

The philosophy of AK

[manic gorge]

For people who want to main Fluorite, this team synergize pretty well but u need to use their skill on the right order to trigger all their skill

[Last rite + Estella skill -> trigger Fluorite + Alesh skill -> trigger Last rite + Estella + Alesh -> Repeat]

[sudden lichen]

Turns out it was super easy. My least liked ops make the best last rite team

you inflict cryo with last rite and xaihi skill (gain buffs), then use fluo combo for instant last rite combo, with more buffs around

ardelia benefits you when on downtime to drain with corrosion on final strikes, then you keep the cryoengine going

double healing as well, and tons of buffs for last rite, yeah this should be a super solid team

using that for last rite as well, it should be pretty good

[real mist]

is atk % as simple as it is, or does it work like zzz where the field buffs from atk % multiplies the whole atk instead of the base only

[sudden lichen]

it's base attack %

[real mist]

all of them? even the field buffs?

[hazy prism]

What are the best choices out of the standard banner rn?

[balmy idol]

If I get dupe 6-star weapon, should I use both or raise its potential?

[sudden lichen]

potential

no point wasting resources upgrading the same weapon twice

[nova lance]

Wut if different characters want the same weapon?

[sudden lichen]

there's always a better weapon for the other character

long term there's no use to do that

[balmy idol]

Ok thanks

[dusk zenith]

does every character eventually want a 6* weapon or do 5* work fine?

[sudden lichen]

a lot of 5* are good stand ins, but there's also good 6* polyvalence for most ops

simply see if the weapons you have fit your ops, if not, maybe need another one

[dusk zenith]

are the in game guides for weapons and teams reliable to follow or should i be asking here

[cloud yarrow]

i got laevatain and now im just doing a ten pull or two to get some arsenal tickets for the weapon, what will happen to the pity for this for the next character

[timber oriole]

gone
Reduced to ashes

for 120 guarantee

but it will count for 80 pity 50/50

[nova lance]

Do I still try to pull surtr? I've done 22 pulls in the banner already but I already have an electric team that I can use

[cloud yarrow]

so its not gone and reduced to ashes then lol

[timber oriole]

well do you want to get limited chars or a lot more standard chars? if limited, you gotta learn to save till 120

[cloud yarrow]

im not f2p

[timber oriole]

[cloud yarrow]

im not crazy about needing 120

if i need a boost ill give it to myself

literally just wondering if my pity is gone or will be there next banner

[timber oriole]

just 50/50 pity will be there

[cloud yarrow]

thats fine then

[lavish temple]

whats best dps team? new Ivvone or Leavatain?

[cloud yarrow]

tyty

[carmine ether]

What weapon best for last rite

And also wulfgard

Akekuri too

[timber oriole]

the latter according to prydwen
they didnt rank yvonne yet due to a lot of changes from her beta kit

[odd hull]

Guys are there some random stuff based on armor or weapon enhancement? or is it just all fixed?

[versed stream]

Gear are fixed, there's weapon essence that still has randomness, but no rng stats, more like match it with the weapon skills

There's also gear artificing and essence etching which is rng lvl up, but it's minmax territory

[odd hull]

How to the esence? and is everys armor blueprint true level up?

[versed stream]

Essence is from alluveum, progress through main story you'll eventually unlock it

Gear has rng lvl up, that is to encourage your factory to keep producing gear

[odd hull]

is it worth to craft green gear? bcs i cant craft the blue one? my factory keeps producing mats for this

[versed stream]

Depend on how willing you to progress

[royal quarry]

imagine a flag bearer vanguard where you just use a skill and you get 2x-4x sp recover

[hard skiff]

hello how do i climb here?

[rapid anchor]

anyone has her? how's she so far?

[royal quarry]

i have her

[rapid anchor]

bis weapon for her?

[royal quarry]

dunno yet

for the free weapons

[simple plover]

endmin hits super hard wtf, i might build a phys team around her

[toxic ferry]

What's the recommended set for Laevatain at level 50? Like the 4* purple gear

[simple plover]

[wispy storm]

Are char build etc sheets out yet

[sharp falcon]

is the lizard man a must build

[cunning cradle]

around here should be some jump pad (I don't remember what they were called)

[trim thicket]

would akekuri buff dps more than ardelia in lev teams

lev wulf ant akekuri

cuz u get so much healing and stuff like is a healer important?

[hard skiff]

thanks i was looking for that

[deft marsh]

Absolutely not

Akekuri isnt even rly that good

[real mist]

by the way, the base atk is too low in this game, does that mean they are like, low af value?

compared to just dmg %, crit dmg %

wait what's the standard of a maxed unit dps of their atk in this game, has a whale reached maxed level and good gears yet?

is it 3k still?

[boreal horizon]

that seems low

[nova lance]

Do I still try to pull surtr? I've done 22 pulls in the banner already and pulled for her weapon(still haven't got) but I already have an electric team that I can use

[boreal horizon]

i think you get her on the 30th?

im using a phys team and its highly enjoyable

[nova lance]

120 is the guarantee

[boreal horizon]

eh, im pretty sure you get her on 30th

like you get a token for her or something

[nova lance]

When was that a thing bruh

[boreal horizon]

you get something called urgent recruitment, maybe it wasnt a guarantee but i jsut got her on that by coincidense

unsure

[nova lance]

Ye it isn't

[boreal horizon]

i c

you can try her out and see if you like how she plays, i didnt so i havent touched her yet 😒

[nova lance]

I like her but..

I already have a coherent team

[boreal horizon]

just use that, and save pulls if you might want her later i guess.

[nova lance]

Who's gonna be the next rate up anyway?

[boreal horizon]

i think you can use whatever to clear tbh, i havent crafted any gear and its pretty faceroll

[nova lance]

It's Yvonne right then gilberta?

[golden zealot]

Other way around

[nova lance]

2 weeks each?

[worn seal]

Feel like Laev is terrible pull value and Wulfgard, at the moment, is best used as a main/dual dps currently

All of the character banners are traps atm, this one and the Yvonne one too

[spark hollow]

Currently running
Yvonne/ Alesh/ Flourite/ Ardelia

What I'm confused of is who is applying cryo or Nature for Yvonne to consume with her skill?

[sudden lichen]

wym

doesn't yvonne consume solid?

[spark hollow]

she kinda needs her skill to hit an already cryo/ nature inflicted enemy for the energy, i may have misread her kit a bit

[sudden lichen]

wait, so that part hasn't changed?

[spark hollow]

Its changed a bit, idk man why is she so damn complicated

[sudden lichen]

can you just post her 3 skills and her talents

so I finally know for good what her changes are

[spark hollow]

Yeye gimme a sec

[spark hollow]

Her passives there to

[hard skiff]

does this mean they act like electrical pylon now? or no?

[sudden lichen]

yes

but much smaller radius

[hard skiff]

ok thanks

[sudden lichen]

alright, she changed, but not that much

anyway, I guess that settles it, alesh is absolutely terrible with yvonne

now that she consumes cryo or nature is really good though, it means you can rely on snowshine parry a lot more to build up stagger without losing much sp

and yvonne can still solid the cryo

for her ult you'll just be doing a standard battle skill>solid>final strike>combo skill>ult>combo triggers solid>ult consumes solid

anyway that makes gilberta even better to have with yvonne

SO I guess my perfect yvonne team would be Yvonne, Gilberta, Xaihi, and snowshine

ardelia being a good alternative if you don't have gilberta

Yvonne consuming cryo is truly the gamechanger though

it means you don't have to be scared of inflicting cryo stacks on enemies

but that truly settles that Yvonne and Last Rite are REALLY not good together

[spark hollow]

Its still one or the other right? Its either double Nature to stack more nature on the enemy of mono cryo

[sudden lichen]

mh? the sentence confuses me

[spark hollow]

Its either Yvonne/ Nature teamate/ Nature teamate
Or Yvonne/ Cryo teamate/ Cryo teamate

[sudden lichen]

uuh, no. It's always xaihi, then cryo and nature teammate

snowshine being the best fit since she gives cryo and solid without consuming

and her parry has big stagger and great sp returns, since the team has no vanguard

so it's mostly either ardelia or gilberta on the nature slot

[spark hollow]

Can i keep using Flourite?

[sudden lichen]

fluorite is kinda bad for yvonne

the issue is that ardelia would just be much better

and fluorite is just useless if you don't go for at least 2 stacks

yvonne will more often just do one stack at once before triggering her skill solid

however I use fluorite on last rite team

she's great here for that reason

[spark hollow]

So where do i go from here?

Ignore the almost max pot Wulgard

[sudden lichen]

get ardelia, snowshine

pray you get xaihi soon

you can use fluorite for now I guess

your damage will be a bit hampered but as long as you use ardelia combo, it should be fine

[rich kite]

what’s fluorite’s best weapon ?
idk which one to use guides online keep having different opinions

[sudden lichen]

she doesn't have a specific one, does she?

[rich kite]

i got Clannibal, Wedge, haven’t gotten OBJ Velocitous, idk which one to use

[daring dove]

Which is a better buff for a Laevatain team 20% ATK or 20% DMG?

Just trying to work on which support weapons I should prioritise.

[indigo steeple]

would an yvonne + last rite + xaihi team work? would the 4th spot be ardelia? or would it be another cryo enabler like estelle or snoshine?

[sudden lichen]

no

focus on one

xaihi is right pick for either though

[indigo steeple]

what is the ideal LR team? i have her weapon

[sudden lichen]

my teams for that are Yvonne, Xaihi, Snowshine, Ardelia(Gilberta)
My current team is Last Rite, Xaihi, Ardelia, Fluorite

[indigo steeple]

or should i just go for yvonne i could prob dupe her when her banner comes if who is better

[sudden lichen]

GIlberta might be replacing ardelia in both teams, but I don't know her kit well enough

I wanted Yvonne but I got sent Last Rite, so I was forced to think up a good team for her

[indigo steeple]

interesting, is the gap between yvonne and LR big? i’m just trying to figure out who to invest in because i have both

[sudden lichen]

it's not that there's a gap

it's that I hate Last Rite personally

both teams should be pretty good

[indigo steeple]

LOL fair have you tried them together? couldn’t LRs freeze work with yvonne?

[sudden lichen]

together they're abysmal

anti synergy

yvonne consumes cryo to apply solid

Last rite requires 3 cryo to consume herself

not to mention both want to be the controlled character for final strikes

[indigo steeple]

ah okay i see, wouldn’t LR want more cryo stackers on her team?

[sudden lichen]

yes, that's why Last Rite uses fluorite

well, she doesn't need regular battle skill cryo, because she gives it herself, so you need fluorite combo for a free third cryo

[indigo steeple]

okok, i just have 3 copies of that blue sword (not great sword) and i can’t find any use for it

the 6 star one

[sudden lichen]

LR sig weapon?

[indigo steeple]

i have hers but no i mean

like normal sword not great sword

[sudden lichen]

oh, regular right

yeah there's no good pick for LR team

there's only one sword cryo user, and he's bad with both 6*

he's the cryo option when you don't have the 6*

[indigo steeple]

white night nova

is that sword just trash

[sudden lichen]

no 6* weapon is trash, but we might not have the best ops for each currently

they're still impressive stat sticks at worse

[indigo steeple]

hopefully something comes sounds good

is this team any good? it’s what prydwen recommends

[sudden lichen]

change perlica for fluorite and it's my current team

perlica is just weird here

[fluid frost]

go antal go // lvl 50 antal

[sudden lichen]

Can't wait to get Yvonne again and do the 1 million damage video again

that one was heavy number crunching

[indigo steeple]

do you know if this JET spear can be used by anyone decent?

[sudden lichen]

which spear?

[sterile rain]

Did I understand correctly that the vulnerability is only for physical skills, and corrosion losses resistance is only for normal elements and does not give anything to the physical element?

[drowsy wyvern]

sankta iirc

idk my arknights lore too well but the sarkaz are basically devils so technically they arent animals either

they look like dragons a bit though

also, does avywenna get this buff immediately or does it only apply when you pull your lances a second time?

[vocal barn]

Yo, I'm really interested in trying out White Night Nova on Arclight for a DPS build, but I have zero idea if it's actually any good; I've seen practically no one talk about WNN in general since it's treated like a Laev hand-me-down, but it seems like it would fit naturally

has anyone tested or considered this?

[sly iron]

ty! I deleted the post because didnt notice this channel was for mechanics xd

[cold turret]

Has someone tested if corrosion applies to physical?

Specifically, Does a enemy with corrosion applied take additional physical damage like the other elements

[vernal torrent]

hey guys i think yvonne works well with last rite no? use last rite on field to apply the 4 cryo stacks, then use yvonnes skill to break it all and get insane dmg and ult?

[sterile rain]

nope, its works only for elements, not for physical

Does Ember's combo skill work if you control her and a mob grabs you?

[cold turret]

Damn

At-least she can consume the corrosion for physical suseptability

[sterile rain]

The physical team is more about control and applying vulnerabilities, as well as dealing massive amounts of Stagger to use Finisher.

[cold turret]

ik

I mostly just wanted someone to replace edmin on physical teams

[sterile rain]

You can, but also no need for that

[cold turret]

I mean

she doesnt really do much

I dont want to use her crush on her battle skill because it starves pog

she cant really apply vulnerability and her combo/ult are nice but are not exactly game changers

I cant use her battle skill as a opener either as Lifeng is far superior applying not only vulnerability but suseptability as well

[sterile rain]

That's all right, but she's not an opener, you'd better use her as a second number.

[cold turret]

Yeah but why, Chen already is a second number and she can stack vulnerability much faster

[sterile rain]

Basically you can use Lifen, MC and Chen's combo, which is very important for Pogran damage skill

[cold turret]

MC combo doesnt apply vulnerability

she cant apply it at all except her battle skill which will consume it if theres already a vulnerability stack

you get added dps with the crystals sure but she doesnt interact with pog

[sterile rain]

because you need to spend 200 sp

read this combo skill

100 sp for Lifen opening and 100 sp for Pogran damage

The more vulnerability stacks Pogran has, the better he will do his job for more damage and SP recovery.

[vivid wasp]

does it matter who I use as my main on my team?

[cold turret]

Yeah but the problem is, Edmin doesnt apply vulnerability

[sterile rain]

not really

[cold turret]

The crystals do not apply vulnerability at all, They interact with it for damage yes but they dont apply it

[vivid wasp]

kk

[sterile rain]

But it's best to use a character that deals the most stagger to the final attack.

[sterile rain]

You don't need to use his skill, I already sent you a screenshot, read carefully what it says.

[cold turret]

yes i know its a combo it doesnt use SP but the point is her combo doesnt do much besides damage

[sterile rain]

don't forget about ult

also damage buff

[cold turret]

fair enough, but her ult can be awkward with the timing

because literally everyone else will pop the crystals first

And although attached originium crystals look good on paper, In reality unless your not using skills those crystals detonate fast

Because literally everyone applies a status/vulnerability which pops her crystal

[sterile rain]

And don't forget that thanks to the combo skill, if you follow all the conditions correctly, you will deal more damage than many operators simply using the bonus skill.

[vocal barn]

holy SHIT LMAO

Look I knew endmin was a pretty good dps

[cold turret]

fair enough

[vocal barn]

I did not know her shatter multipliers were that fucking loaded

oh my god that's disgusting LMAOOO

[sterile rain]

That's why it's so important to read all the information in the game yourself, rather than looking at tier lists and listening to others.

[cold turret]

*the in-game info poorly explains it unless you go into the talent tree

but yeah

[worn seal]

How do you generate ultimate in this game?

Trying to spam out ults

[vocal barn]

random question @cold turret but do you know if arclight interacts with uh arts damage and intensity at all

i would check but i frankly do not have the time right now LOL I'm slammed with work

[cold turret]

yeah

shes a fully electric operator

well partially

her combo is physical dps so thats not going to be affected

Her ult and battle skill yes

her normal attack no

[vocal barn]

oh ok, so is arts damage just ur standard elemental damage while intensity is... what, debuff potency?

[vernal torrent]

hey guys i think yvonne works well with last rite no? use last rite on field to apply the 4 cryo stacks, then use yvonnes skill to break it all and get insane dmg and ult?

[vocal barn]

for context, I'm tryna figure out if this would work or if it's just kinda scuffed

i did not realize her combo was physical I can't lie, I thought it was electric LOL

[worn seal]

How do you generate ultimate? Trying to ult more and idk what actions charge the ult for each character

[vocal barn]

so that does not give me hope

because iirc a lot of Arclight's damage comes from her combo skill

[vocal barn]

i have no definitive answer to this question, but honestly my best guess would just be

controll whoever you want to spam ult the most on

intentionally put yourself in harms way so you can dodge for max SP refund

bring a vanguard and just cycle as fast as humanly possible

[vocal barn]

oh I should clarify

i do not have to use WNN specifically, I really just want a DPS Arclight setup LOL

that's all I'm looking for

unfortunately I've basically only seen people recommending you take her with thermite for a support role

[sudden lichen]

no that's completely wrong

last rite needs to consume the cryo stacks for her combo

yvonne needs to consume cryo/nature for her main skill

[vernal torrent]

oh no i mean last rite as a subdps for yvonne

[sudden lichen]

that's still pretty bad

[vocal barn]

last rite eats all the stacks :(

[sudden lichen]

last rite would be a basic cryo applicant

and her combo is dead in the water

[vocal barn]

^

[vernal torrent]

but

pretty lady team...

[vocal barn]

you know you could probably get away with it just by virtue of 1.0 timers usually being quite leniant lmao

[sudden lichen]

do what you want, but don't get fooled

[vocal barn]

like do it if you want to

but yeah

it's not gonna work super well

[vernal torrent]

waifu > meta fr

rather use who i like with subpar compatability than a random character i dislike

[sudden lichen]

feel free

but you're probably in the wrong space then kek

[vocal barn]

honestly, if I were you

I'd just make 2 completely different teams

[sudden lichen]

anyway so far my last rite team seems very solid

[vocal barn]

yeah it's semi-redundant if you get really caught up in total account progression, but it's 2 different ways of playing the game you can enjoy at their fullest

which makes it worth it, I'd say

[sudden lichen]

when the combo gets going, the damage goes haywire

I almost never manage to get it though, because all enemies I fight die way before I can deal all the hits

[vernal torrent]

2 teams hmm

[vocal barn]

yeah I've noticed so far that endfield's difficulty is weirdly backloaded

[vernal torrent]

what would they look like? :)

[vocal barn]

a lot of the fights aren't particularly challenging, but that seems less like it's because the game is easy and more because they take a really long time to give you access to the game's resident stress-testers

[vocal barn]

uh, if u wanna stray from unit overlap you could do mono cryo last-rite and then cryo nature hybrid for Yvonne

I saw something about Ardelia not being particularly good for Yvonne thoh?

so maybe keep that in mind

I think Flourite's ok enough with Yvonne from what I've heard

[vernal torrent]

i got a 1 dupe ardelia so i can use that with hybrid yvonne

[robust vault]

have ppl done sheets for this game yet

[vocal barn]

I might be hallucinating lmao take what I say with a grain of salt

[robust vault]

specifically for phys teams

[vocal barn]

uh, I don't think so?

but what question are you looking to have answered? Maybe it can be figured out via context clues and general game knowledge?

Physical team is like the one team I have some vague amount of experience with, so I might be able to help? Though I'm not sure

[robust vault]

honestly two people have been arguing ab what the best physical team is so i just wanted to check the numbers and tell them to stop talking ab it LOL

[vocal barn]

LOL

I mean

[robust vault]

cause neither are open to listening to the other it seems lol

[vocal barn]

what even is the debate

you want pog and you want endmin

[robust vault]

if endmin is bis in physical or not

one person was saying with absolute confidence that pog / lifeng / chen / dapan is the best physical team, and someone came in saying that endmin is always bis because they dont use SP or something

anyway im also curious for myself now lol, bc i pulled lifeng and will be playing physical until yvonnes banner probably, if that

[vocal barn]

oh

ok so they're just focused on the wrong bit

the expendable unit on the phys team isn't endmin, it's ch'en

you'd swap ch'en out with lifeng

[robust vault]

this is the worst news

[vocal barn]

dapan is... there, I guess?

[robust vault]

for me because i like chen

LOL

[vocal barn]

LMAO

honestly

it's optimal but if you're not having fun then it's stupid and dumb

and the physical team is really stretchy (as in versatile)

like

as long as you don't have like 3 crushers and a breacher so you're never able to build up any stacks

you'll be good

[robust vault]

like yeah it feels like i can just clump together (almost) any physical units together and for the most part itll go boom

[vocal barn]

physical works super well with itself and there's not really a dedicated phys amp

so it's basically all DPS and subDPS that just happen to have shred and nuke capabilities built into their system mechanics

the fun consiquence of this is that you can basically pick any physical unit and say

"you"

"you're gonna be my damage dealer"

endmin is the most intuitive pick and probably the best right now because of nuke spam

BUUUUUUUUT

[robust vault]

awesome

[vocal barn]

Ch'en works as a burst nuker iirc, edward elric (lifeng) is really good, Pog can dump mad damage with the boys and DaPan

I mean look if Ben can be the biggest I think the panda can get a little motion

[robust vault]

i guess i just gotta pray i get pog now

[vocal barn]

if all else fails get down on your knees and beg Akikuri Laoshi to battery your team

[robust vault]

haha thats what im doing rn

her, lifeng, chen, and endmin are my team rn

but i literally just finished the main story that gets me my standard and now im spamming simulations

[vocal barn]

PULL

GET IT OVER WITH

if it matters

one of my friends sat in vc with me and said

"you will get pog"

after I said I wanted pog

and I got him

so

I think he's feeling generous...

Pog MIGHT be the kindest operator of today...

[robust vault]

i got lifeng already 😔

[vocal barn]

oh

:(

WELL

[robust vault]

unless i have standard pulls anyway

[vocal barn]

Lifeng is cool, still

:)

[robust vault]

havent checked

[vocal barn]

I don't have Lifeng, I have Pog and Ember

[robust vault]

nicee

[vocal barn]

but I'd like Lifeng I fuck with Edward Elric 🇨🇳

[robust vault]

i feel like a dumbass doing this simulation tutorial

ive never struggled on any of them but

why the hell is the depot unloader positioned on the opposite side of where i would put it

[vocal barn]

LMAO I don't think I've gotten the depot unloaders

[robust vault]

like the originium is being unloaded next to the refining unit instead of the shredder

and i cant move or swap anything. i can only place belts

[vocal barn]

I was malding over the power limit so I spent like 3 hours last night trying to figure out how the hell I should set up a battery factory

[robust vault]

[vocal barn]

and then eventually fixed it LMAO

[robust vault]

lmaoo

im doing all the simulations just to get them out of the way. most of them is spam clicking pop ups and using common sense

[vocal barn]

worth it thoh I went from like 200 to 640 capacity

ya, that's the way

[robust vault]

i want the planting thing so i can have infinite meds

[vocal barn]

people said that the factory schtuff got way more enjoyable once they stopped ignoring the tutorials

[robust vault]

and infinite stocks 📈

[vocal barn]

but yeah tell your friends that bickering about optimizing the physical team right now is completely and totally pointless because they all work with eachother

pick a unit you like and build around them - it will work

every physical unit right now is designed like a hybrid

[robust vault]

i just need to show u my problem. am i being an idiot. why is it like this

[vocal barn]

how good they are at that job varies, but not enough to matter right now

I mean MAYBE unless your name is catcher, but even then I don't know

[robust vault]

thats fun

i usually play teams like that in other games too lol

[vocal barn]

it's weirdly fitting to me that the physical team is structured like a west london jumpsquad now that i think about it

THERE IS A PROBLEM -> SHANK YOUR PROBLEM -> THERE IS NO LONGER A PROBLEM

the old monster hunter addage of

everything is weak to dying

[vocal barn]

I cannot answer you on this unfortunately, as I have no experience with depot busses 😔

[robust vault]

just imagine its a regular output and input like

[fierce charm]

How viable is pog main dps lifeng Chen and Ardelia

[vocal barn]

KIIIIIIIIIILL PEOPLE

sorry

i mean

yeah call up the boys and jump some fuckers

that's what I'm gonna do anyways LOL

[fierce charm]

Uh what

[vocal barn]

uh sorry I meant mainDPS Pog in of itself is generally viable to my understanding, yes

then lifeng can be your subDPS, Ch'en is there... there, I suppose? not really great and not really terrible

Ardelia is the weird one - I think I just saw someone saying that corrosion does not interact with physical, but I would scroll up a bit and check that for yourself

[fierce charm]

Can I just do mc with grand vision pog lifeng and ardelia

You can convert the corrosion with physical susceptibility with her skill no?

[vocal barn]

can you?

Shit you might be able to, Iunno

er

wait is it converting it to physical susceptibility or is it converting it to breach?

because Pog already applies breach, so that'd be redundant were it the case

[vocal barn]

that seems... inefficient to me

you'd need an already present stack of corrosion which I assume would require either an entirely external source of corrosion meaning you'd give up an extra teamslot

or

two uses of Ardellia skill, which would be very SP heavy, meaning you'd not only be applying breach less often but you'd also be charging Pog's ult way slower

[sudden lichen]

you're misreading her skill

her combo applies corrosion when you perform a final strike with no inflict/vuln

[vocal barn]

ahhhh, I see

[sudden lichen]

then you do her skill and get the debuffs

then go off on whatever

[vocal barn]

wait, doesn't that get in the way of building vuln stacks thoh? that seems quite rigid

I guess it doesn't matter all too much

[sudden lichen]

it's fine if you time it with crush or similar

[wicked cipher]

Which team would you guys say its best, pogranich/chen/lifeng/ardelia, or pogranich/endmin/chen/ardelia I've seen both teams and don't know on which one focus on leveling and maxxing. I always ignored team building and actually understanding the combat in every gacha but I might aswell try to understand it for this one, since Im enjoying the game quite a lot so far, ignoring the dramas

[sudden lichen]

it's an issue for a team that keeps the vuln stacks forever though

[wicked cipher]

Asking here because you can probably help me out aswell and on team-build they are on their own world lol sorry for interrupting

[sudden lichen]

dramas, what dramas

[sudden lichen]

No Da Pan?

[vocal barn]

you know this is a good chance to ask: Does Pog want to do this or no?

[wicked cipher]

I do have him, is he better?

[sudden lichen]

there were 2 ops I didn't get in beta

poggers and last rite

[vocal barn]

er, I guess a better way to ask that is does breach shred amount scale off of the number of vuln stacks

or does the stack count just increase the damage

[sudden lichen]

from memory the best phys team was chen, da pan, lifeng, and poggers

[sudden lichen]

but maybe it changed

[fierce charm]

So what are like the best teams that include both lifeng and pog

Also what set do I put on pog early on

[robust vault]

WTF U BLESSED ME I HAD A TEN PULL

[vocal barn]

HAHAHAHAHA

THE LUCK PASSES ON

[wicked cipher]

I'll just go with this then ty

[vocal barn]

GLAD I COULD HELP, MY FRIEND

[robust vault]

🙏

[vocal barn]

actually, don't thank me - thank the funny russian man

he's very kind 🥹

real talk that's fucking hillarious he MIGHT JUST BE Lingyang's evil shadow self

he shows up only for people who desire him

[supple tartan]

Probably the best character to pull if youre saving up for future characters

he compliments the MC so well

[lost heart]

Does anyone have information on boss stats like HP for different levels of challenges?

[supple tartan]

that plus panda? GG

[wicked cipher]

Good to know lol im thinking of skipping this patch because I don't really care for any of the characters

[vocal barn]

o, are you supposed to bring dapan and pog together? I thought they were semi redundant fsr 'cause I remember pan being a breacher

and I was thinking that you'd want more characters that build stacks as opposed to consuming them

genuinely uninformed here that's not meant to be pushback lmao, please enlighten me

Oh he's a lift bot

Huh

I thought he did breach fsr

[supple tartan]

important thing to know if coming from something like genshin some characters really like mono... most do. so try to use physical dps that one girl with the blue coat that you start with also compliments the team

[wicked cipher]

I've played a lot of gacha but none really interested me that much to bother learning the combat and the systems

Im really enjoying endfield (Apart from the drama and the gacha currency stuff) so I'll probably try to learn for this one, but I have no idea how the combat of these games usually go

[vocal barn]

highkey about 60% of the drama just comes from people being insanely uncomfortable with Endfield not being super frontloaded rewards-wise or just being unwilling to read

I hate to be like that because most of the time mob outrage at stuff is a way more complex phenomenon... but this game has been out for all of 3 fucking days; people do not know how to play it, even if they think they do

nor have 99.9% of the playerbase actually gotten far enough in the game to say anything on the currency distribution or the writing or whatever

the paypal shit and the landbreakers being a very shoddy faction of villains are genuinely fair complains though, those were actual blunders lmao

[wicked cipher]

Yeah I do know that after all the gacha currency and systems end up being pretty similar, it's just more convoluted and different to the usual and it looks worse, rates and numbers are pretty much the same

[wicked cipher]

If they improve the tutorials and give out some rewards as an apology for the Paypal stuff + to get some goodwill from the people (Wuthering style) they will do really good, everything else from the game was fantastic at launch, quality and performance.

[supple tartan]

i havent heard.. what happened to paypal?

[vocal barn]

HG spaghetti code somehow caused people to get charged for purchases that weren't theirs

[wicked cipher]

Huge problem, if you bought something on the game with paypal you could be charged for other people stuff, some people got charged up to 15k

[vocal barn]

I do not know how this happened

yeah, THAT is the kind of blunder you should not make LMAO

[wicked cipher]

They don't have paypal on china and it's their first time actually publishing the game so they probably didn't bother doing the testing required

[supple tartan]

that is wild. so like info leak or just? some kind of weird coding thing?

[vocal barn]

everything else is genuinely fine and people are losing their minds because they're uncomfortable with something that they can't profile on day 1

[wicked cipher]

Just weird code, nothing got leaked and people got refunded

I think they even got to keep the stuff for free, which was controversial enough but well

I do feel like they gotta give some good rewards as an apology, because this is probably one of (if not the) biggest fuck up you can't make

If you are not even gonna give us something good as an apology why even bother with other problems that might happen in the future

Also, do you guys know any good site or youtube where I can look stuff from this game's combat as a person with literally 0 idea, I really can't be bothered to use in-game tutorials or guides, I despise them too much at this point but I would like to understand the teams and combat better

[vocal barn]

Honestly, the combat tutorials are great

The factory ones are good too but those are the long ones so people don't like them

[supple tartan]

long? its put thing her put convey here done? for like 90% of em lol

[wicked cipher]

Yes but it's super slow

Camera animations, useless secondary objectives and just filler that doesn't need to be there

[wicked cipher]

I haven't really tried them, if they are less annoying I'll just give them a try and do em all

[vocal barn]

Long by modern gamer standards LOL

Its more like they feel long 'cause there's lots of menus

It doesn't bother me, but people have been inscessant with their whining about it

[red topaz]

what do i choose for mc?

[vocal barn]

Im thinking about it now and honestly I wonder if part of the dread with the tutorials comes from a mixture of ur average gacha gamer being unfamiliar with the genre, thus it's all new, and the UI being REALLY dense and overwhelming at first

Like it really isn't that bad when you get used to it

But as someone who has a grand total of like maybe 5 hours in mindustry, I get why so many people were like ??? What in the nine hells is this

Because I have flailed around in some of the tutorials for a fair bit LOL

[toxic ferry]

What level 50 set (purple set) is recommended for Laevatain?

[errant ridge]

which one of these teams performs better and under any circumstances should I swap one of them for Amber c2 THANK YOU!

[glossy warren]

I gotta take a look at amber again but the second build with wulfgard is solid, i use a similar build as well, but I use a tank instead of antal

[vocal barn]

honestly, im surprised people here use prydwen and the like instead of endfieldtools

mostly because tools has community writeups and the like

[sudden lichen]

My complaint about those was that you get frontloaded all the factory tutorials at once, they should've unlocked each with the corresponding tech research

[sick nexus]

What is the consensus on xaihi

[sly nymph]

does anyone know what the fuck skill stats on essences do?
the line saying "brutality" "twilight" and whatnot

[supple tartan]

For Last rite.. why do people suggest akekuri over fluorite? She is so snappy for her making her get her combo faster with the free frost app

[supple tartan]

yes... some weapons of higher tier have passives that are unique. Twlight and brutality are passive type.

Like the special weapon for laeva is a twilight weapon. putting an essence with twilight on i believe brings her weapon from 75% bonus attack to 90%

[sick nexus]

I think for sp

Xaihe and Last rite tend to take a lot of sp

[supple tartan]

thought xai generated it

oop

[sick nexus]

No she doesn't

[astral blaze]

will this game be using 2 teams in the future or not?

[sick nexus]

Only vanguard can give sp

[sick nexus]

I think we will probably

But not sure

[agile flicker]

hi guys is pmax avy better than p0 surtr?

[normal tangle]

am i tripping or is ember's ultimate straight up harmful to her kit 💀

whenever i have shields i can't seem to trigger any "on-hit" effects like her combo and enhanced skill

[uneven patio]

For Avywenna, has anyone done the calcs of JET P0 vs Cohesive Traction P5?

[vivid wasp]

what should I prioritize in terms of skill ranks or should I just grind until I can fully upgrade them all anyway?

[vernal mortar]

So I have since significantly remedied the Max Vulnerability, Freeze and Shatter guide so that this next iteration succesfully achieves our objective.

The objective?
A single nuke attack that benefits from both 4 maximum stacks of Vulnerability and Shatter DMG from a frozen/soldified enemy.

Team Build Update Log:

• Updated the Team Composition section to include the correct composition of characters, for this very specific scenario. Resulting in easier and more direct combo to achieve the intended damage.
• Added Da Pan as the main controlled operator.
• Added Yvonne and Snowshine for their uniquely useful forced Solidification.
• Revised, simplified and optimized rotations and removed the previous Nature+Cryo infliction reaction for Solidification to take place via Gilberta/Fluorite.
• Updated Glossary definitions in accordance to the above.

Check out the new guide here while I update the official SKPort post with the changes.

#theorycrafting message

[knotty veldt]

why are all the people in endfield animals hybrids but endmin isn’t?

[vernal mortar]

good question, AK lore probably, ask the OGs

Director Qin also refers to the people of Talos-II as "humans" instead of their specific Races as depicted in the official website

[delicate portal]

Will the team around corrosion work without the main carry?

Does quickswap exist in this game?

[vernal mortar]

nope

combo skill span is AK Endfield's version of quickswap

can't spam Q in this game

[cold turret]

inb4 she takes the visor off to have animal eyes

[rotund yoke]

We already know that endmin have Rhombus pupils like a certain someone from AK

[delicate portal]

So the team won't work?

[sharp ridge]

what level 50 gear is best for surtr?

[hot swift]

is avywenna or endministrator a better dps?

[delicate portal]

Same I think?

[vernal mortar]

it will

i havent used it yet so idk but im sure it will if u look into it

[delicate portal]

Alright thanks

I will try upgrading it

And if It actually works I will tell how good or bad it is

Who should I make my onfield dps?

[vernal mortar]

ffrom my experience

use a caster or vanguard

vanguard ideal for SP recovery

if you care just about applying corrosion through ardelia's combo skill, you only need an on-field character that final strikes (which all of them do) and the most useful are those that SP recover for your allies to use their skills more often

[delicate portal]

But all of their finishers recover sp

Or should I be looking at skills

[vernal mortar]

vanguards recover additional SP through their skills, combo skills, talents and ultimates

[delicate portal]

So I need to slot her in

[vernal mortar]

finishers recover minimal SP that wouldnt be considered "SP recovery" cause of how long it takes to get to it

[delicate portal]

She's my only vanguard

[vernal mortar]

i'd use her, but i also said casters, like fluorite are useful for their own reasons too

[vernal mortar]

fluorite is better for this team than akekuri

[delicate portal]

Yeey

I made the team for Fluorite

[vernal mortar]

yeah she's fun and useful when you unlock her talent 10% slow

[delicate portal]

What about others

I should just keep them?

2 cryo and 2 plant looks fine

As for the weapon, should I look for something that gives me sp?

Alright I guess I can use Opus since my main dps is from arts

[glossy ether]

Thermite Cutter vs OBJ Edge of Lightness on Akekuri. How big a difference support buff is the 5% fire dmg vs 10% atk buff?

[winged haven]

or should my yield be a lil bit higher

[short bridge]

I've been skipping

[glossy ether]

i chose to get the sword and test, the atk buff seems to be an total atk after all considerations increased by 10% rather than just another 10% in the calculation. it's significantly stronger than the heat dmg increase

also the base atk on sword outweighs any primary stat increase you'd get from weapon so it's just the best weapon by far

Thermite Cutter > OBJ for Akekuri 100% of time

[near frost]

I like perlica
So
Im on a mission to make perlica a dps (any help is appreciated for builds)

[vernal mortar]

thats my goal over the weekend

be on the lookout for rotations i send here

[near frost]

Whats the build plan?

Ah alright

[vernal mortar]

i've got a 6* weapon i pulled early on ardelia's arsenal ticket exchange, using the free cosmic voice certificates 10x. and it was the 6* detonation arts unit, and using it on perlica. so i also want to build a team around her very soon

i wasnt answering your question there btw

i will let u know when i find out

[near frost]

Alright thanks man for the mean time I'll also do some research (my team is currently electric team)

And her current weapon is oblivion