infra-station

[toxic osprey]

unlike X and ZX series

and original

wait... is it ended?

yeah it does have conclusive ending

[atomic ember]

Im consider not lucky compare all my other friend, 2-3 times more top operator than mine with same time frame

[rustic rune]

yeah it's much better than X and ZXA's cliffhanger!!!

Even Battle Network had Lan's legacy continued by his son 😭

I love Mega Man 😭

sorry this belongs in #anime-comic-games

I have some endfield captures

sweet, we have media channel now

running half Arts half Phys Team, can't wait to add Rossi in!!!

[toxic osprey]

this is general chat in a sense it should be fine.... right?

[true plume]

its another off-topic

but the free image perm will be disabled if trolls use it again just like in #off-topic

[toxic osprey]

well mod said off-topic is general chat of this server so

technically same thing ig

and well even if free img perm are gone here i can just buy img perm

[iron hinge]

well damn

it does exist

[waxen gull]

[rustic rune]

[iron hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/vivlos-verxina-uma-musume-cheval-grand-dancing-gif-6932900422711388480

[mossy lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/aston-machan-uma-musum-waving-gif-27548452

[pure pagoda]

Understandable

after 6 days playing

i found the most suitable comp for my gameplay

now i'm hitting 26

[swift sandal]

Go join the arknight server and use the help pins. There is walkthrough (that I followed like 20 days ago) to get the most value 🏃‍♂️

[toxic osprey]

damn zuo le?

[pure pagoda]

Yes

you know how to maximize him?

[toxic osprey]

nope i don't have him

[pure pagoda]

[toxic osprey]

one of not so many 6* i don't have

[pure pagoda]

then i'll research for him

no problem

[toxic osprey]

but he considered to be op char iirc

not sure if anyone powercrept him yet

[pure pagoda]

Very useful

[swift sandal]

Well he did say :
-do not increase masteries on S1
-do not increase level beyond 60 on e2 (because too much cost for little stats prob )
-Module is not mandatory

Btw you can't increase masteries yet. Need a character at e2 (aka uncapped twice) and the training room

[toxic osprey]

that's really all you need to know tbh

[pure pagoda]

i get it

[swift sandal]

Here I will gib you the roadmap.

[pure pagoda]

now i understand

[swift sandal]

Find more advices on the pinned spreadsheet 🏃‍♂️

[pure pagoda]

[swift sandal]

It also includes advices for tix btw. Not every tix are fixed to have the perfect value. It will be different depending what pool you have.

[pure pagoda]

👍 🔥

[toxic osprey]

damn we have so many free resource option now i didn't even realized

my old player brain be like "ooooh new content", play till i can claim all reward and for get about it

what IS5 give you tho.. why IS5 first

[swift sandal]

No idea. My friends told me to farm IS6 first 🏃‍♂️

[toxic osprey]

yeah i thought so too

wouldn't it be better to get raidian and grind her to E2 first for new player

free carry

[pure pagoda]

IS what it that?

ooo

Raidian

[swift sandal]

Rogue lite mode. No stamina is needed to play that part of arknight

[pure pagoda]

more likely for extra grind

[toxic osprey]

free extra grind

[swift sandal]

Well for now. Just play the game without IS on mind. It will be better if you have some character leveled up

🏃‍♂️

I am saying especially because I still have not unlocked raidian e2. It is tough 🏃‍♂️

[hearty star]

2 basic hh permit im crine

and 1 pull worth of oros

[toxic osprey]

this event end today and i still have no clue what it is
https://endfield.gryphline.com/activity/voyage-to-the-stars/en-us

like we just have our username engrave on actual satellite?

[pure pagoda]

i have no idea rhi

Is it something related like test?

[swift sandal]

should be something like that. 🤷

[toxic osprey]

it's sound cool and all but like

how can we know we actually have our name on it

[rustic rune]

Yayy i did it!!

all versions of the story bosses now complete!!

[toxic osprey]

trim medal?

welcome to the club

[rustic rune]

yayyy

[lunar mountain]

congrats

[rustic rune]

next challenge letsgoooo

i'm already cleared on all the umbral monuments >.<

[hearty star]

even agony?

[toxic osprey]

well agony umbral is easier than story boss trimmed medal

if you can pass dps check on trim boss then you have more than enough dps for agony umbral
all that left is just some skill play and not dying

[rustic rune]

yeah!!

[placid shuttle]

@quiet flax do you have access to the #infra-station channel?

[balmy isle]

The issue that I see is that there isn't really a suitable place for discussion of criticism

[quiet flax]

exactly

[balmy isle]

Infra-station, the stockade, and the other minor threads are probably better off without being clogged with criticism and discussion of criticism

And the endfield main chat is crowded beyond belief

Not really suitable for complex discussions

[true plume]

tbf, all I saw from #1461653979862925498 is echo chamber (not saying it was u both)

[quiet flax]

its very easy for sepcific topic to get drowned by new topic over time

the back reading will be a hassle too

[balmy isle]

Especially with the slowmode

[placid shuttle]

kinda the same way the feedback forums are better off without being clogged with off-topic discussions and criticism of the feedback itself unfortunately

although i understand your point

[balmy isle]

Not really, there was quite a bit of dissent and discussion on many threads, the big issue was going off topic

But again, where else do we go?

The main chat is a no go because it's so clogged

[placid shuttle]

five channels to openly discuss game feedback topics seems pretty free to me

[balmy isle]

Not openly

[true plume]

theres a different from a "constructive criticism" and a "toxic criticism", and the line is pretty thin so most people doesnt know when it become the latter one

[quiet flax]

unless you can make a thread its kinda not ideal

[balmy isle]

The outpost threads seem to be better off without discussion of criticism, it should be better to just leave these outpost threads clear of most criticism

[balmy isle]

And it's not ideal to wipe out all criticism just to get rid of the toxic criticism

[true plume]

and for the oot one, I rarely saw people on #1461653979862925498 to warn the one that going oot

so well

[placid shuttle]

it should also be understandable that the same exact argument can be made for #1461653979862925498

[true plume]

it doesnt wipe it btw

[quiet flax]

yeah, i eman the topic that will be discussed definitely a hot or miss
with so many people being close minded and have blind faith tpward HG, its hard to even held a proper discussion

[balmy isle]

Reactions can accomplish a lot, but it's not the best

[placid shuttle]

the only difference is, per the guidelines, this is a channel meant for discussion

whereas the feedback forums aren't

[balmy isle]

So, where does that leave the criticism? If not in feedback, and not in the outposts, where?

[placid shuttle]

and these channels are currently quite inactive

[quiet flax]

hell even with the "echo chamber-y vibe happening in game feedback, some actor still go their way to ragebait and dismiss the feedback simply because theyre a shill

[placid shuttle]

would a thread for discussing all game feedback suffice?

if it was created

[balmy isle]

I ask because I'm terrified that endfield is losing it's identity, like how ZZZ lost the TV mode. I want to know if others feel the same, and I want to know if specific issues I see are actual issues, or me just overreacting

[balmy isle]

GIven the states of the feedback threads, probably not

[quiet flax]

it still need to be categorized into specific elements like gacha, story, combat, etc, just like skipper suggested earlier

if its simply "ALL FEEDBACK" then it wont be much better than here

[balmy isle]

You would need several, each dedicated to a specific aspect, alongside maybe a dedicated vent thread

[balmy isle]

Yeah, all feedback in the same thread will get cluttered and spammy quite quickly

I'm not even sure this discussion is appropriate for this outpost thread

[true plume]

well, we just need to see this happening, since skipper use "possibly" in that sentence

[quiet flax]

it sounds like a lip service at best atm

[balmy isle]

Which moderator do we contact if we want extra threads?

[quiet flax]

only ti mitigate their blunder of making rapid changes in short tiem frame almost as if it involves 0 time to actually assess it
the timing also a bit sus with earliest changes happening at the night of Dev Log that seemingly tried to put pressure on us

[true plume]

it kinda is? since its non-commital answer

[placid shuttle]

We will enforce stricter moderation in the other general channels to combat these toxicity.
Additionally we opened more channels for people to hold general discussions that can be joined from id:customize

#discord-feedback message

[true plume]

its hedging imo

[balmy isle]

Does criticism and discussion of criticism count as "general discussion"?

I don't think it does

[true plume]

like when u need an answer but doesnt answer it completely

[balmy isle]

Is it just me?

[placid shuttle]

[quiet flax]

sounds like a sure way to "inviting more toxicity by allowing divisive topic to be free for all"

[balmy isle]

Didn't think of it like that, but that is probably the most accurate interpretation and/or prediction

[placid shuttle]

it was re-explained in response to a previous post you made as well

Check #server-news⁠ as we have opened more channels for general discussions outside of #off-topic

• #discord-feedback message

[placid shuttle]

don't know how much more explicitly it needs to be stated, but i'd assume specific outposts channels will inevitably be opened because people won't stop complaining about it

or forums..

[frosty swift]

The like is fairly obvious

if you don't agree with it it's toxic

[placid shuttle]

long discussions that require many messages are intended for the discussion channels

[balmy isle]

I see that, it's just that they have yet to make a thread specifically for critical discussion/forums. And again, I don't think it's appropriate to drag discussion of criticism into the general discussion threads, since I don't think criticism is general discussion. And how will they know to open those threads if we don't complain about it?

The entire reason why I'm here is because I saw that announcement, and again, I don't want to clog general discussion threads with criticism

[placid shuttle]

if the criticism is positive enough like it should be, it's fine bringing new positive topics to the chat channels they were intended for

[true plume]

this already proves that its hard to differentiate which one is constructive and which isnt

[balmy isle]

How can a game improve with only positive criticism? Criticism is inherently negative. Praise doesn't improve technique

[frosty swift]

It's very easy but also entirely subjective

[placid shuttle]

since I don't think criticism is general discussion.

🤷‍♂️ fair enough, it's been said multiple times that any form of discussion is allowed here as long as it's within the rules

[true plume]

I mean for subjective view, it viewed as toxic since its attack the critic you want to give. But for the "actual" view, well......

[placid shuttle]

☝️

[balmy isle]

I mean, yeah any form of discussion, it just seems rude for me and others to be discussing story issues while many others want to discuss medals or fun characters and whatnot in the same thread

I just think there should be more discussion threads

[placid shuttle]

if you really want to have a forum or channel created specifically for #1461653979862925498, and don't want to use the designated channels for discussing things, i think that's perfectly fine as well, and if you keep pushing for that, it'll probably eventually be created ✅

[placid shuttle]

my fault there honestly, i meant to say constructive criticism, not positive criticism

[balmy isle]

I mean, I think it's safe to say demand for one of those specialized threads is pretty high. There's a very good reason why the story, gameplay, and gacha feedback threads got so massive so quickly

[balmy isle]

Fair enough

[placid shuttle]

constructive criticism is great and is welcome anywhere not otherwise explicitly denied if you ask me

[balmy isle]

Who denies constructive criticism?

[placid shuttle]

it's pretty clear if someone is willing to speak and provide supportive comments, without entirely derailing the opposing subject or just pointing out it's flaws, and leaving no actual beneficial response

[true plume]

the hardest part is the one that @frosty swift already said

[placid shuttle]

some places will deny any form of criticism at all, though here it is allowed

[true plume]

this

this is why people hard to differentiate which one is it

is it constructive

or no

[placid shuttle]

i was also going to mention, that yes, people commonly tend to blur the line themselves whenever they disagree with something

[true plume]

and well, I already saw few "argument" or "opinion" bringing "feeling" into the table on that #1461653979862925498

so its already biased

[balmy isle]

Unfortunately, many people may see otherwise, especially with the shuttering of the feedback threads, no matter how benign the intentions were

[placid shuttle]

instead of trying to improve the feedback in a healthy way, they try to disprove the feedback they disagree with by offering counterpoints that don't do anything to help the suggested issue at hand

[young brook]

the biggest problem is rage bait post which easily derail those feedback at 1st place.

and then the dev video which largely address stuff from cbt2 or few days into the release rather what is the overall opinion regarding 1.0.
adding fuel to the discontent

[pallid escarp]

Actually theres another way for them to receive genuine feedbacks directly too and that is not giving rewards for the surveys
Like if you slap on 300 oroberyls for every surveys then even people that dont really care about giving any genuine feedbacks will still do it but half-heartly just for the rewards and not bcs they want to give feedbacks

If they want to get actual feedbacks from people that actually care then they should just remove the rewards from them entirely, usually only those who care enough about it will do it while filtering out the "whatever" feedbacks.

And I know that doing these feedbacks takes quite alot of time so it would feels kinda bad with no rewards but I think its a neccessay evil

[velvet briar]

Do you guys think there's still some stuff that needs to be vastly improved/revamped from the ground?

[placid shuttle]

necessary evil

lol, this is diabolical

[velvet briar]

Such as?

[placid shuttle]

nothing i'm willing to go into a lengthy discussion about right at this moment, unfortunately

vastly improved? yes | revamped from the ground up? probably not

[young brook]

total rework from 0, probably no, but improvement to already available feature, a lot.

[placid shuttle]

300 oroberyls is quite generous and will add up over time with how often they're currently releasing surveys

premium currency instead of worthless currency too

quite generous indeed

[young brook]

easy example will be transfer delivery job, too annoying having to open quest tab to click transfer.
should be at the end of the package making or somewhere between select package / item choice / npc target choice.

[indigo glade]

People seem to only do Power Plateau and Wuling deliveries

[toxic osprey]

well can't be help since other 2 are not worth much

[young brook]

or even a large menu at the delivery menu page itself, like a 2nd tab which list your job and just click them for transfer

[indigo glade]

Yeah dont blame them

[pallid escarp]

Yes, but bcs of that many will do it ungenuinely just for the rewards instead of the main reason for those surveys which is to give feedbacks

[indigo glade]

Sometimes the science station one is literally just a walk down to the road to Fabian Collins

The easiest delivery in the game

[toxic osprey]

and after reaching current endgame even me don't even wanna touch my own lower 2 delivery

[velvet briar]

The one thing i want is probably the pull concentration. The amount itself per 1.0 i think is more than enough(over 200 i think). But they are spread in a really weird way, some even staright up outside the game itself. I wish AIC as the biggest time sink would generate more, like if you manage to produce x amount of battery you get x oro. The only oroberyl in factory is probably the ones from simulations.

[indigo glade]

All surveys give rewards thats the whole point of getting people to do them. The Endfield surveys are also quite long

[placid shuttle]

Delivery Instructions:

• Walk forward 25 meters.
• Turn left at the next crossing.

you have reached your destination

[young brook]

another example will be collecting animal poop..... many complaint about how tedious and slow.
well, not like fertilizer is a must or something, but yeah.... it's an 'unoptimized' feature

[placid shuttle]

arknights surveys are crazy, but it's great that they're in-depth

[indigo glade]

The guy who sells seeds should sell fertiliser

[toxic osprey]

that's why no reward survey gonna attract only people who really want to give a feed back to the game

tbh I have the same idea on that one before

[pallid escarp]

And those that dont really have any opinion to give in those feedbacks will just pick the first option and move on, and I dont think those are helpful for the devs

[indigo glade]

You can have a cake and eat it. Give 300 oberyls to everyone and the players can do the survey if they want.

I dont see how thats not a good solution.

[toxic osprey]

damn they should implement force afk animation when i take a picture

waiting for animation to trigger waste so much time

[young brook]

yeah, that's an easy work around.
or the game could make weak fertilizer at npc while better fertilizer require crafting from poop + other material.
but until the game does require fertilizing farm, this feature probably a very low priority.

[placid shuttle]

you can change the poses i believe

[toxic osprey]

how?

there is only group pose formation thingy

where it place 4 char in different position

scene stting only have show and hide

this is formation

[placid shuttle]

i think it's on the right side of the screen

[toxic osprey]

nothing there bro

[placid shuttle]

drop that in #1461653979862925498 if you want

[toxic osprey]

i can't till 1.1

[placid shuttle]

wait

yeah lol

[toxic osprey]

i'll just take note on this one for now lol

wait... is selfie animation Yvonne's noticing us behind her?

[pallid escarp]

Hes banned from posting feedbacks

[indigo glade]

How do you get banned

[toxic osprey]

yap too much off topic in there

[keen bridge]

is this good enough? Can i rest now?

The grind is eternal

😭

[hearty star]

is the chartered hh permit for limited banner?

[lunar mountain]

yes

[hearty star]

i see

[lunar mountain]

they can be used on any limited banner

they don’t expire

[hearty star]

guess i do have enough for tangtang or rossi 🔥

(im skipping both of them)

[indigo glade]

Replace Ember with Akekuri

[keen bridge]

100% stock

[quiet flax]

you need to be there to actually read the nuance but for example topic regarding gacha
its inevitably pretty subjective right, some people think it fair some does not

when the one that think its not fair discuss something
within the open space, undoubtly people from opposite site will gather and stard dismissing the concern form the other side

its guaranteed to be messy, and i dont think it belong in general chat, at least not worth to foul the positive mood that better not be disturbed here

[true plume]

im indeed there..... especially the one about 50/50 topic

I knew what unfolding in there

[quiet flax]

see

its messy right?

and i dont thinkk its worth to br brought here

[pure pagoda]

Arknight × Sanrio Damn

we got Pramanix there

[true plume]

they cant even set a baseline first about the measurement for saying bad

[quiet flax]

tldr: give them an arena somewhere to scowl and throwing punches, even tho ideally it doenst have to reach that point because some people just stating their opinion, but some people trying to correct them

[true plume]

well, its not me who says to bring it up to here

im just saying about the game feedback issue in general

[quiet flax]

yeah im not talking about you
but rather the mod who doesnt go far enough and just saying "dont held discussion in feedback thread" but provide no avenue or space as alternative

its dumb and lazy

[true plume]

noted about me thing

[pallid escarp]

If you give 300 to everyone then thats the problems, everyone, even those that couldnt careless about the state of the game, will give a half-assed surveys and call it a day, trust me I know bcs I was once a player like that

My suggestion would be to reduce the rewards or just outright remove it

[indigo glade]

You just dont want people getting rewards

The thing is

Everyone can get those rewards but people can do the survey optionally

Is a better option then nerfing rewards

[pallid escarp]

Or that yes

Basically dont tie them together

[indigo glade]

I dont know why you wanted the rewards reduced, people would be angry about that

[true plume]

because the 300 is not "free" rewards but rather as a feedback reward

context: about survey in general

but if we tied it into pull income issue, people definitely would be angry

[quiet flax]

the first dev log itself already dissapointing
and they dont even bother following up with a simple blog post or in game news about their updated WIP for future optimization taht didnt make it for the DEV LOG recording session

even for me that took my time filling the survey, it just feels like a performative act from the dev side at this point

[frosty swift]

They left the survey sending bot on a loop by accident /s

[indigo glade]

Infinite surveys?

[frosty swift]

Infinite Oros

[indigo glade]

Infinite oroberyls

[pallid escarp]

Maybe?

[frosty swift]

but I do agree that surveys should give nothing

Do it if you care

I also, although it might not be important in this channel, want to remind everyone that you should do surveys even if you love the game

cause it does happen that, especially long past release, surveys are only done by people who don't like the game

[true plume]

but anyway, I prefer to avoid this kind of topic, since getting called as a shill or glazer because having a sane thinking / logical thinking is kinda..... idk

people threw shills / glazer word easily now
and with the current state of #1461653979862925498 , I just hope the dev will "actually" read it
since the game definitely need improvements

[round folio]

wait whats this channel for

[true plume]

basically off-topic

[round folio]

but theres #off-topic

[frosty swift]

Saying that Gilberta is cute

[quiet flax]

if all they fill is to just give high rating on everything it will just nake those survey bloated with noise tho
might as well dont

[true plume]

the traffic on that channel is too fast

[round folio]

gilberta is cute

[true plume]

so skipper make another channel

[frosty swift]

If you think it's good and you care you should open it and glaze tf out of every category

protecting that which you love is important and in the live service genre that's something you gotta do every once in a while

[indigo glade]

Me doing the surveys just to make sure they know about the pull economy issue

[quiet flax]

since reworking the gacha system is pretty much will never be a thing given they dont even add more safety net to base arknights gacha system after 6 years, the least they can do is giving more pulls AND drip marketing

at least that will reduce the ammount of RNG that need to be accounted in the gacha system, basically reducing the guessing games

[toxic osprey]

Never ending discussion for sure

The gacha talk

[quiet flax]

the price the dev need to bear for bringing up controversial system uwu

[toxic osprey]

Sometimes people just don't understand that gacha is basically gambling and it's 100% luck no matter what they do (hard pity is just failsafe)

[quiet flax]

they just gotta live with it
for me personally if nothing changes i will just treat AKEF as filler for when azur promilia arrived

[toxic osprey]

Well Endfield is fun game to me but my main game still og AK for gacha

[indigo glade]

It correlates with skill

[toxic osprey]

And I actually just random VRChat player it just these game have anti cheat conflict else I would be running both of them at the same time

[toxic osprey]

What skill?

[pallid escarp]

Gambling requires skill now?

[toxic osprey]

Oh yeah I do have passive skill called "luck syphon"

Jk aside what skill really?

[quiet flax]

idk what skill hes talking about but imo the core issue is how restrictive the system is

1. you should not start pulling unless you have 120 pulls
2. you should not stop pulling until you get the current banner character
3. you should not pull after you the character

and thats the system alone, not yet talking about the expiring tickets and its relation to pull economy et cetera

[indigo glade]

Luck correlates with skill

[toxic osprey]

That's clarify nothing...

[pallid escarp]

So we are living in a RPG game now?

[indigo glade]

Its just cope because i had to hit near 120 to get the limited operators

[toxic osprey]

Bruh

[indigo glade]

Im skill less

[fresh carbon]

VRC has fucking anticheat now?

For fucking what?

[toxic osprey]

Modded client and crasher

Stupid part is it does reduce number of crasher and hacker by a lot but strip away Normal people way to protect themselves as well

[pallid escarp]

well if they can proctect us then we dont need to proctect ourselves right?

[toxic osprey]

But they can't and that's the problem

People who know way to by pass anti cheat are still around in many public world in the game causing chaos here and there

Just not as much as before anti cheat were implement

I even saw 6yo account hacker once and can only wonder why don't they get ban

[pallid escarp]

tbh banning vrc players usually wont do much since the game is free and they can just make another account

[toxic osprey]

Yeah

And IP ban probably don't really help too

[young brook]

adding this :

• starting from 71 th pull to 120 th, use 1 by 1 pull
• if you win between 71-79, nice, you can gamba 50/50 at next with only 1-9 pull since pity progress does not reset or 31-39 in case you are forced into 120
• if you are forced to go 81++, the 1 by 1 prevent overusing oroberyl since pity will reset dont care at which pull you got the character.

[quiet flax]

you should start 1 by 1 pull starting 65th pull actually, thats when the soft pity starts

but after you lose your 50:50, i think its opkay to start doing 10 pull again, a bit risky but maybe fine for the first or second multi

but yeah, so many gymnastic to do pulls in akef its not even funny XD

[young brook]

but required.... if you really care about saving : /
oh well, back making blood sacrifice for rng god

[frosty swift]

you can cheat in VRC?

[quiet flax]

granted that every extra pull after getting the featured 6* is void, yes its cross that we shall bear, as patethic as it be

[toxic osprey]

Dunno how much you can do now but yes

Back in the day modded client can do avatar search/more saving slot, tp people, crashing people, etc even data theft would be possible too iirc

[steady escarp]

can we talk about how the sanity event is a scam

[toxic osprey]

Well it's as I thought it would be

It's like we get free 120 sanity per day

[clever cipher]

same, its the people who assumed its unlimited

[quiet flax]

looking at how the ammount of pulls they given out from small events match with genshin's i already knew the sanity event will follow genshin's rule as well lol

endfield is so predictable if you play genshin, its almost a replica aside from AIC and gacha system

[fresh carbon]

I get copying models, more saving slots, etc
But if the server allows for user commands to teleport others, what information players can pull about each other, and don't filter the amount of packages a person can send, that's just a skill issue for VRC devs and their shit servers

[toxic osprey]

Yeah and they use anti cheat to fix it but not really...

Really big skill issues

[fresh carbon]

They just pushed the job onto client anticheat and called it a day

Instead of doing it properly

[steady escarp]

They didnt copy genshin's money making success
I wonder why

[quiet flax]

because endfield weapon system has more profit potential
especially once you realzied taht the conversion from origeometry to arsenal point is abysmall

[clever cipher]

i think release genshin was more predatory than endfield's

no way to guarantee the weapon banner

[steady escarp]

thats not what I meant

everyone shits on the weapon banner system currently, rightfully so, there is just not enough free pulls in the game to help building it

[toxic osprey]

And now they even making more monetization stuff
I get it that they need money to keep the server running but how they handle problem doesn't make me want to pay them any money

[clever cipher]

but endfield's economy at release is worse, i expect something like annihilation in future patches tho

[steady escarp]

Can we just talk about how they made less in the full month of february than they made in the 10 days of release

(in mobile revenues)

[quiet flax]

oh i have a whole copy pasta about that for my survey filling ( the last question)

[clever cipher]

probably because majority are just opting for battlepasses and the monthly card

[fresh carbon]

Honestly? Fortnite is closer to a metaverse than Meta or VRC will ever be

[quiet flax]

well the sitatuion ahs changed alot, genshin 1.0 system is clearly outdated, now with capturing radiance and fate system its miles better

[steady escarp]

I have other theories, 1.1 will confirm if I'm wrong or right

[clever cipher]

best weapon banner is still wuwa's no bullshit

[quiet flax]

yep, but thats the bare minimum because their 4* options are just bad

endfield kinda in the same situation but their BP weapon is decent at least

[steady escarp]

I'm at a point I just want ef to fail financially, so hg HAS to finally pick a side between their original target audience, or casuals.
Let's just say if they pick casuals I wont be there to see where the game goes

[young brook]

i dont know if other game make a change in their gacha system, but the game i played changed it after 2 years.
maybe other games had faster experience ?
didnt play much, only 4 games including endfield, currenty.

[quiet flax]

failing financially is hard, because contrary to popular believe, they dont need as much profit to keep the game running
player retency tho, now thats spicy

[steady escarp]

seeing Arknights doing as much profit as ef on mobile is very sad for ef
And very worrying for the wellbeing of HG state of neurons

[clever cipher]

true they still have arknights after all

[quiet flax]

if theres anything that can make endfield fail, thats if the player count starting dropping en masse
because even if they can keep paying the bill, as an IP and brand, it will be at a vulnerable state

[steady escarp]

also imagine how much they could make, if their little niche of AK players already makes 10-20 millions every month. Imagine catering to this fanbase, while benefiting from the new player influx due to hype/visibility

[clever cipher]

personally, ill be fine with endfield as long as they improve the stories, the gacha is whatever I can wait for reruns as long as they dont introduce something like Spiral Abyss or Tower from Genshin and Wuwa where they kind of force you to pull for current banners

[steady escarp]

As the game is rn, I dont know who it will retain
og hg fanbase looks pissed
and the game is too complex for casuals to stay long term after honeymoon is over

[quiet flax]

considering amny people also interesting with akef because of its factory sytem yet after the first week theres nothing left to tweak, its already chunk ofp layerbase that will start realizing that the bait they took is not a feature but gimmick with extra steps

[steady escarp]

the fact you cant update your old factory with the new stuff you unlock is sad

[quiet flax]

EF definitely need start to think about rearraging their priority
gacha aside, they really need to fix the story and the relevancy of AIC

[steady escarp]

yes
And unless they rip EF of factory relevance, if they prioritize casuals as they seem to do rn, I dont see a bright future for the game

Arknights is a success because it doesnt care about the "wider audience", it does it stuff how it wants to do it

[quiet flax]

actually im legit surprised why they tied thier weekly tasks with random activity instead of AIC
for example they can make it into a task like "produce this specific material and submit it to the pool to get reward proprotional to the ammount you submitted"

that will encourage players to keep tweaking their factory

[young brook]

under impression they will launch AIC cosmetic 1st before addressing the importance of AIC gameplay into the game which become 1x setup

[steady escarp]

Factory is fun but

its a one time thing

once its built it doesnt need improvement

[quiet flax]

yep, i legeit havent touched it since the 2nd week of the game

[steady escarp]

Imagine being able to integrate ways to improve the performance of factory, so you have to come back to your first factories to build them over/improve them

[steady escarp]

same

once you unlock everything, no need to change anything

I really am baffled by how hard hg failed to target an audience with the release build

[quiet flax]

casting the net too wide i guess

[steady escarp]

The fact I'm nostalgic of a TECHNICAL TEST build also tells much about the game

[steady escarp]

was it worth alienating their fanbase

[quiet flax]

only they can answer

we dont have their bank manifests XD

[steady escarp]

imagine arknights revenue plumets because they pissed off their playerbase

[hearty star]

i lowk wished they stuck with the beta test

[steady escarp]

we all do

at least all that desire a quality product

and not another gachaslop

[hearty star]

the story was well developed, what could've possibly changed their minds for averageness

[blazing urchin]

True

[quiet flax]

except maybe the manual aiming at combat
its cool, but can be pretty tiring to do eveytime

rather they should find a way to make tower and traps more relevance poutside tower defense minigame

maybe by making drone or such

[steady escarp]

I remember a time where the inspiration of the combat was Xenoblade....

[honest geode]

Wasnt there a controversy in CN that hg was giving beta access to peole who never played Ak i guess it shows now

[quiet flax]

you only need to supply it with abttery and it will do DoT for you

[steady escarp]

I wanna replay xenoblade chronicles

[hearty star]

except they failed the tower defense in that aspect

[steady escarp]

the fact I saw a 5h speedrun of it is unrelated to that fact

[quiet flax]

and even xenoblade dont have many manual aiming

[hearty star]

husk

[steady escarp]

Manual aiming was a good idea imo

[quiet flax]

it is good, but not for a game that focus mainlky from 3rd person eprsepctive
maybe if its more RTS-ish

[frosty swift]

there are no limited deals to like celebrate release

[quiet flax]

which honestly wil lalso be a novel idea

but yet unexplored

[hearty star]

so they literally pissed off a lot of the ak fanboys and casuals can't really grasp with aic stuff

[steady escarp]

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE RTS

[frosty swift]

We had a chance at anime DAO, writing included

[steady escarp]

THATS THE SAD PART OF THE STORY

[steady escarp]

pretty much

[hearty star]

they literally botched a product because some people couldn't handle the overwhelming burden of thinking

[hearty star]

and the product is already good, it just needed further polishing

[toxic osprey]

I love having overwhelming burden of thinking

It's give me a feeling that I'm still alive

[steady escarp]

its not a burden

[toxic osprey]

And human

[steady escarp]

And its not overwhelming

[toxic osprey]

Didn't said Endfield is

[hearty star]

they tried to catch a bird and a fish with the same net and ended up with nothing

[steady escarp]

it needs more than polishing

[hearty star]

ik but generally speaking

[steady escarp]

I dont see how they can make the game more strategical with the current combat core system

its still very spammy at its core

[hearty star]

it is

[honest geode]

Damn im so overwhelmed by thinking @ grok can u play the game fr me?

[hearty star]

and the towers are very underutilised

there's hardly a point in deploying them aside from aesthetic

[young brook]

will be ironic if they keep mocking chen, but they are at chen's brain lvl

[hearty star]

😭

i wouldn't be surprised

[toxic osprey]

@ grok I'm stuck at log in page with someone walk toward me behind logo what do I do

[hearty star]

also chen likely has street smarts than book smart

[young brook]

well, she's good at martial art, specially dual wielding sword.
so yeah, those people probably below chen's lvl....

[toxic osprey]

Nah Chen dum dum I love her

[steady escarp]

The fact the enemies from essence beeline you no matter what, and that towers deactivate if you are too far away (even at render distance) makes them usless at just afking the farm

[steady escarp]

No chen is just dumb

[honest geode]

Wdym chen is able to memorize an entire book and is top of the class

[hearty star]

it's implied or

[honest geode]

It was in her files

[toxic osprey]

Are you mix Chen with lifeng

[hearty star]

files🥀

[steady escarp]

memory is just part of intelligence
if you can't put what you learn to use, its useless

she may be a fighting genius

[honest geode]

Welcome to asian education system

[steady escarp]

but her brain is just not braining

[hearty star]

street smart just means one can adapt in unpredictable situations and has a strong intuition

[honest geode]

Shes smart shes jus dumb wen it comes to electrical engineering

[toxic osprey]

Who knows ? Chen might be people like me capable of complex thinking but prioritize meme

[hearty star]

electrical engineering is leagues nobody can ever reach

[steady escarp]

Speaking of asian education system
can we talk about the Pela Joke in HSR ?
About the fact that, after her age retcon, she was made into a founding member of Serval's band and graduated from uni while still in her mother's belly ?

[hearty star]

aside from the "volunteers" that are there for the money

[steady escarp]

Truly an asian education

[honest geode]

Always cut the red wire

[hearty star]

and pray🔥

[steady escarp]

no no, she's just dumb

[honest geode]

Wat

[steady escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-qianyu-silly-gif-2603914693282121266

[steady escarp]

you didnt know about that meme ?

[honest geode]

I dnt play hsr so idk

[hearty star]

what was her personality prior to the release?

was she just as dumb?

[honest geode]

Damn university degree in the womb is like asian parents wet dream

[young brook]

damn, why i derailed the talk with chen ._.

[hearty star]

because

[young brook]

i should stay silent ._.

[toxic osprey]

You did great

[hearty star]

ts off topic😭

[toxic osprey]

Now about Chen....

[honest geode]

Wat s this channel supposed to be btw

[hearty star]

check l'pin

[toxic osprey]

My home

[steady escarp]

okay so, tldr, a character named pela in Honkai Star Rail was first introduced as being a young genius, but also a class comrade and founding member of the music band of Serval, another character, who is like in her 40s according to timeline calculation.
Turns out, from official infos we have from the game, we can estimate Serval's graduation at BEST 16 years ago

The issue comes from the fact Pela is presented as her classmate and band member (foudning one) because in a later patch, they retconned her age to make her being 16 years old

[hearty star]

id be slightly surprised if this game pulls a no man's sky

[steady escarp]

a channel for doomposters and the dissatisfied

[steady escarp]

I dont think I need to explain why her being 16 doesnt match her being a classmate and a founding band member

[hearty star]

a game that had a horrendous release but constantly improved the game via updates overtime and is now widely celebrated as a game that redeemed itself

[steady escarp]

Also, they retconned her sending you drunk messages

[honest geode]

Every open world gacha game only strts at 2.0 ive noticed. Im surprised how mny stumble the frst yr, idk wat happens during development there. Maybe they hve to deal wth so mny restrictions frm higher ups nd stuff idk

[young brook]

... Chen .... 🏃‍♂️‍➡️

[hearty star]

it's likely to pull in cash

[steady escarp]

fuck the higher ups

[hearty star]

i will say tho

[toxic osprey]

Worst retcon award still go to riot games's League

[hearty star]

i was a day 1 genshin player

only reason why i stopped playing was because the story was too boring

[hearty wyvern]

@molten moth Would you be able to look DMS

[hearty star]

and also my ign was "Lumine"

iirc

[steady escarp]

wow stalker behaviour

[toxic osprey]

Wait what???

[steady escarp]

bro joined a server just to tag someone to ask them to check DMs

bro

if that person didnt reply to your DM, maybe THEY JUST DONT WANT ?

[hearty star]

😭😭

im actually crine rn

[steady escarp]

Also roblox profile banner

[toxic osprey]

That's... Very out of context, nice

[steady escarp]

Bro is either a child or a predator

[quiet flax]

oh really? huh i remeber you still mainly use WASD for movement but its all mouse control??

if yes then god we've been so robbed

[steady escarp]

RTS just means Real Time Strategy

technically, Dragon Age Origins could be considered as a sub category of RTS

[quiet flax]

i know but the whole aiming and such only feels good when you stick to mouse for all your action

its ab it awkward otherwise

[sonic citrus]

[steady escarp]

I bought DAO on pc just because I couldnt bear with console controls

also

mods

[toxic osprey]

We can defy the norm and create new possibility

[flint ice]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-dusk-nian-bean-gif-11284461232767828623

[honest geode]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658639480290279435/1476614477855068222/432eooawqslg1.gif

[hearty star]

i know hypergryph is gonna make plushies outta those

[toxic osprey]

Didn't we already have one?

[steady escarp]

Omg it's Pomme !

[steady escarp]

Beans

Yes those are mines

Also idk why but I can't stop seeing Pomme from QSMP when I see your username
Maybe because it's the same

[flint ice]

I only have the mini Chen qianyu pompom phushie

one day i'll buy all the suibling beans

[hallow grove]

where did you get these i wanna some too o.o

[steady escarp]

Apple pie

[steady escarp]

Ebay

[hallow grove]

okay :3 thanks

[steady escarp]

I'm getting all the sui sisters brand first
My money isn't infinite sadly

[honest geode]

.feet

[leaden tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086672418832394/958726890414301246/choke.gif

[toxic osprey]

.mommy

[leaden tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1394343900260335748/ezgif-4f404687b7d39a.gif

[pure pagoda]

Ah hell nah

[toxic osprey]

damn

[pure pagoda]

i got her

[toxic osprey]

i guess from now on killing slug is my job

in endfield

[pure pagoda]

[toxic osprey]

i want unlimited slug meat

[pure pagoda]

create a factory slug

[toxic osprey]

for this thing

also all the dog in sight

slug meat is easy to farm but dog meat tho

[pure pagoda]

🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[hearty star]

wait what-

[toxic osprey]

well beans lung exist since og ak so no wonder they already made one

[hearty star]

crazysauce

[toxic osprey]

now that i think about it

i really should save some money for them

and ask my chinese friend to buy it for me

[placid shuttle]

@fathom lagoon regarding the #1461653979862925498 restrictions, there's some additional context here too if you're interested in reading through the discussion, maybe not though

[toxic osprey]

if it still have a stock by then

[pure pagoda]

Honey or Breeze?

both is Healer

[lofty vault]

Honey

[toxic osprey]

honey +1

[pure pagoda]

Nice

[lofty vault]

She's really helpful in is5 and any stage that has elemental damage

[pure pagoda]

Honey, wanna go with my team?

[toxic osprey]

IS2 also

welp like he said any stage with elemental damage

[lofty vault]

I only did is2 enough to get the defender for training then moved on lol

[toxic osprey]

bruh is2 when newly release was one hell of a elemental damage bs

was it nervous impairment

yeah

[lofty vault]

I can imagine lmfao

Yeah

[toxic osprey]

anyone who don't have the berries will suffer

[lofty vault]

Did yall have eyja alter to save you back then? Lmao

[toxic osprey]

either malberry or honeyberry

[toxic osprey]

iirc she not there yet

but i did have E2 malberry so I kinda manage

[placid shuttle]

https://tech4gamers.com/windows-12-reportedly-relasing-2026-modular-ai-focused-os/

quite the lovely news

[prisma nova]

Subscription based and AI focused

Wrap it up

Case closed

[toxic osprey]

ew subsription-based

very disgusting

[placid shuttle]

barely finished forcing a bunch of users to migrate to windows 11, already releasing windows 12

[toxic osprey]

where is my OS-tan mascot

[placid shuttle]

potential release in this same year too

[toxic osprey]

i can't go to win 11 my pc too old

it's not even support win 11

wait.......

win 11 OS-tan is a fricking loli?

srsly?

did people " 😭 💢 " over her

[pure pagoda]

Win 11 is sucks because of Copilot and now they push Win 12?

Anyway, Honeyberry is good

time to find her associated fraction

[toxic osprey]

hmm? so win 11 actually have no official mascot

[pure pagoda]

yes

i would like to choose Win11 medic OS version

no bloatware, no Copilot, pure OS only

[toxic osprey]

so-

do you have that?

no right?

[pure pagoda]

no, also because i have the original one

[pure pagoda]

it's free btw from Microsoft

but they do not mention it in public, you'd have to search it

[toxic osprey]

hmm?

if it's free why don't you just download it and change to that version?

[pure pagoda]

good question

i have no personal laptop, it's my brother's laptop so i can't do much and risk it

9

[fresh carbon]

Ain't that basically LTSC?

[pure pagoda]

more likely

but mostly just Normal Install but has no Application, just a defaul browser

Also

why playable theresa has different name?

[fresh carbon]

Because the crown was the actual character

[steady escarp]

they can suck it off

I barely had the time to "enjoy" w11 that they talk about w12
you can bet they gonna force it as well

[steady escarp]

ayo what

[placid shuttle]

linux usage will see it's largest increase in years (5000%~)

they won't be forcing it

[steady escarp]

for gamers, windows is sadly still the most compatible OS

for all other usage, yeah

[toxic osprey]

we can make linux able to run game somehow

but

very clunky and need a lot of things to be done

[steady escarp]

it'smore trouble than I can manage with my limited knowledge in the matter

[toxic osprey]

and you see...

[steady escarp]

I mean...
Windows 11 isnt even 5 years old...

[toxic osprey]

that is unofficial win 11 char from the community but somehow window official account on IG(?) somehow use her in their clip

[steady escarp]

imagine big company stealing community art for advertising

[toxic osprey]

nah they hired another person to do a clip for them to talk about OS tan in general

but somehow let that one slide

they do have official mascot for 7, 8 and 10 but somehow no 11

[steady escarp]

if I could I would just go back to w7
or even XP

[toxic osprey]

guess madobe blood line ended at 10

XP is probably impossible by now

not sure about 7

[steady escarp]

xp and 7 were just the most stable and less annoying versions of windows

we dont talk about vista

[toxic osprey]

tbh i don't want any build in AI to mess with my pc

so even if i can go for 11 i wouldn't

vista exist?

it's gone in the sea of time

[steady escarp]

Runing on vista is like waiting this one guy on discord " XXXX is typing" to send their message, for minutes and minutes, expecting something big, then it just turns out to be a "hello"

You NEED it to deliver something to make all that waiting worth, but it fails at doing so

[toxic osprey]

i skip XP to 7

then 10

never touch both vista and 8

[steady escarp]

holy shit that Lemon art SLAPS

Remember when HG still knew how to make good games

Now the real Question

Apple
Or lemon

The answer is both

[neat furnace]

I'm a lemonade person

[pine coral]

Again with this Artist.
I know what you are

[somber mango]

so wholesome

[steady escarp]

The fact you identify the artist tells more about you than it tells about me

[flint ice]

[pine coral]

It tells I have eyes, yes

[steady escarp]

Eyes that seem to be trained to that art style

[pine coral]

Like, if you see Ask or Namie art you can recognize the style pretty fast

Same with Lm7.
Outside Official artists, there is Uof that I see often, AG

[steady escarp]

I can't coz I'm not used to her art style

[pine coral]

Sure sure

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-doakes-meme-doakes-suspicious-gif-496833742737182965

[fresh carbon]

Mod knows ball

[steady escarp]

K san I can since I saved all the SFW stuff she did just to mess with people that consumed her arts and don't want to assume

It's actually pretty funny to see people who recognize vs people who dont

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/141890649 another banger from this artist

the improvment they made in face drawing is crazy

[toxic osprey]

[steady escarp]

this artist does crazy stuff

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/121728480

and you can see the improvment of face drawing

[hearty star]

i feel like i can make this with a few trial and error but i absolutely have no rendering experience

15 years i can (i am lying)

[steady escarp]

absolute lies

[hearty star]

certainly to not that degree

in terms of composition, ive done smth similar

not bragging, just saying i can

tho admittedly i do sound arrogant💔

[toxic osprey]

bruh the problem with saying we can do the same composition is

we already see this composition right in front of our eyes

[hearty star]

ik that

i feel like i could've worded it differently

lowk cooked myself with this one, i admit fault

[steady escarp]

I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about

[flint ice]

I love this artist too (ur pfp)

Ema

[steady escarp]

I was about to ask you if you liked my pfp when I saw you typing

[flint ice]

but u should update your bio

[steady escarp]

oh yeah

[flint ice]

https://x.com/KuguiEMA/media

[steady escarp]

thanks, but I got it from pixiv :p

https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/141671187 this one looks nice too

[flint ice]

was talking abt ur current one

but ok if u prefer the pixiv

still the same person

[steady escarp]

I just dont use twitter in general

[flint ice]

Oh never seen that one

[flint ice]

before 2021 I was only using Pixiv, now I'm checking both

[steady escarp]

I just dont like twitter in general, and its harder to find new artists in general

in general, thats a lot of "in general"

[toxic osprey]

and twitter nowadays your post get buried in no time

[fresh carbon]

https://www.phixiv.net/en/artworks/141817611

Muayo Muayo~ by (@ChibiLeo)

Muayo Muayo~
#Arknights, #Arknights, #Arknights, #Muelsyse, #Muelsyse (Arknights), #Muelsyse

https://github.com/thelaao/phixiv · Mar 2, 2026, 6:36 AM

[toxic osprey]

i remember some of my art get around 300 like in pixiv but on twitter it's only 5-10 and post just got buried

[steady escarp]

chibi mumu

[fresh carbon]

trickcal mumu

[fresh carbon]

oh they got some good art

https://x.com/KuguiEMA/status/1734848818657829030

Emaえま (@KuguiEMA)

ラプルマ 💙🤍
#Arknights
#アークナイツ

X · Dec 13, 2023, 8:12 AM

just absolutely precious

[steady escarp]

Thats why I love pixiv
It's harder to find precise stuff since it's not made to work with latin alphabet, but if you just doomscroll, it's better to just find new pepits

[steady escarp]

oh I know this one

[fresh carbon]

la pluma is definitly in my top 10 AK characters by design

can't rank them more after that

[steady escarp]

La Pluma is top cute waifu tier
although she's still not at the level of my Mumu

but liberis have a little something that other races dont have

I couldnt say what it is

just

Birbs on top

[fresh carbon]

gotta add in Shu to that
along with Angelina, Blue Poison, Eyja

[steady escarp]

Blue Poison
the pinacle of toxic relationship

[toxic osprey]

eh it's not toxic if I develop antibody

[fresh carbon]

hey, just some of my personal favorites

oh we're getting another sanrio characters collab

[toxic osprey]

tbf bluepoison is really attractive personality wise

to me

[steady escarp]

as with many y1 operators, she doesnt have a lot of spotlights

especially among non 6*

[toxic osprey]

yeah sadly

guess we can only pray for blue poison alter

[steady escarp]

[fresh carbon]

+1

[steady escarp]

I want Ifrit alter and Saria alter

[toxic osprey]

more rhine's alter?

heck yeah

[steady escarp]

give the family some growing

[toxic osprey]

just kill my wallet

[steady escarp]

not just rhine

Specifically Ifrit and Saria

We got the mom alter with Salter, now we need daughter and dad alter

[fresh carbon]

yeah Saria does need one
more than Ch'alter Alter

[toxic osprey]

ifrit and saria got screentime so many time but never get alter yeah
while the 5* momma already got one

but no

they gonna do angelina alter and keep dodging saria

then shining, nightingale alter

[steady escarp]

besides, both Saria and Ifrit got enough character growing to justify an alter

[toxic osprey]

both of them could get alter like 2 years ago already i think

lore wise

don't know what HG been cooking

[steady escarp]

Ifrit and Saria ?

[toxic osprey]

yeah

[steady escarp]

They deserve it since Lone Trail

they both had massive character growth

Saria with her relationship with Silence

[toxic osprey]

that angelina, shining, nightingel i'm just trolling

since they are also launch 6*

[steady escarp]

And Ifrit emancipating as a grown up, no longer a child

[toxic osprey]

well from this 5 of them already got alter so

half way

about time

...

don't tell me it's actually 2 more year

and both of them are pobably in the same banner fr

i mean we have this talk before

[steady escarp]

The shame was SA/Prana/Astgenne alter
Triple alter
WHEN KJERAG HAS SO MANY POTENTIAL NEW OPS

GIVE ME RATATOS

AND SCIURUS

Squirel sisters

[toxic osprey]

Astgenne is free alter so i don't really mind

talk about squirel

where is my aunt shaw alter

prodigy firefighter

[steady escarp]

playable Inam when

Give us more aZling daughters

[toxic osprey]

damn it

Yvonne's eyebrow

i can't

[grand prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/ifrit-reveal-cinematic-final-fantasy-16-clive-rosfield-gif-3399483703656546778

[warm stream]

what is this channel even for?

[warm stream]

thats peak ngl

[sharp hamlet]

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUyb2R0eHd6cjZ3NmQ5aXE0cGM2anZienh2NGczamZsZHZibnB3ZzJvayZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/jnAQDbJE6O678VkVMn/giphy.gif

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-meep-low-cortisol-dance-chibi-gif-17107758709618840273

[warm stream]

bruh

[opaque pivot]

Ricepaddy after reacting with 67:

https://tenor.com/view/the-johnson-brothers-johnson-brothers-67-meme-funny-gif-9437191532001130943

dumbest "meme" in human history?

[fresh carbon]

@thick olive it's a PEBCAK, he doesn't seem to listen

[fresh carbon]

@sonic jetty

[fresh carbon]

Some people are truly a lost cause

[sonic jetty]

[fresh carbon]

Bet rn
He ticks that DX11 box
It runs

[sonic jetty]

[fresh carbon]

it's the nvidia driver throwing a fit god i just can't with some people

[sonic jetty]

help me

[fresh carbon]

the fuck am i supposed to do?

[sonic jetty]

LMAOOO

[fresh carbon]

he doesn't listen

he insists his 2012 card can run vulkan

[sonic jetty]

i meant like the sudden wall of text

[fresh carbon]

the path in System32 was enough

his card shouldn't be playing the game in the first place but here we are

i get 10yr old tech, maybe it's a hand-me-down from some uncle or idk

but his shit is 14

that card alone is about to enter highschool

... now he's talking about deleting the driver dll...

[sonic jetty]

delete sys32 next

[fresh carbon]

just send him a kind reminder the game requires a GTX 1060 at minimum

i'm sick of this shit

some people are just too fucking stupid

he deleted his OpenGL driver dll

[sonic jetty]

fuck around and find out final boss

[fresh carbon]

i need a mod help-ban this guy

[high raptor]

im praying for yall's sanity

[fresh carbon]

congrats to him
he's the second profile i've muted, after that mee6 bot

since i have this discord account

[sonic jetty]

mee6 capitalism bot

[thick olive]

I entertain the thought for my own entertainment

[true plume]

now I'm curious what happen to you guys earlier

[pure pagoda]

[modern lily]

[blazing urchin]

.reddit

[leaden tulip]

I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.

[steady escarp]

Let's ban this command from this channel

[toxic osprey]

soz my hand slip

[hearty star]

probs in the recesses known as 'dms' maybe

[grand prawn]

Which command?

[grim pawn]

.reddit

[leaden tulip]

I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for you tho, or sorry that happened.

[rustic rune]

boin

[toxic osprey]

😭 💢

Uoooh

300 pull when

damn all this time i walk on dijiang i never saw him sit

[hearty star]

.discord

actually surprising

[hearty star]

wat dis

[severe thorn]

New small login event

You get 2 free pulls and 500 oroberyls

3 days long I believe

Lasts for 6

[grand prawn]

I think I just heard gunshots lol

[balmy isle]

Yes

[pure pagoda]

Test

[grand prawn]

America baby

😄

[pure pagoda]

LMAO EMBER 1 TICKET

[balmy isle]

We enjoy literacy here

[tame eagle]

SO CLOSE. 180 off...

[pure pagoda]

Nice

1/10 Progress

[hearty star]

😭

[grand prawn]

Now we only need 186 more pulls to get to 300

Assuming you didnt use oroberyls to pull

[toxic osprey]

who would

[brittle folio]

more people than i care to admit

[toxic osprey]

bruh

[toxic osprey]

people seriously that desperate?

[rustic rune]

OH LUCKY im so jealous!!

[brittle folio]

I saw more than one person say they went to their next 6* when we got the selector so they didn't get a dupe. Personally I knew we'd eventually get more and saved the selector

[toxic osprey]

yeah we can just pull limit and eventually get every 6* anyway

[clever cipher]

is it even worth getting that many 6* or units in general as a f2p/low spender when you cant build them all

maybe in a collector perspective

[rustic rune]

This AIC seems smaller than the others...

[clever cipher]

Sub PACs are smaller yes

[rustic rune]

gonna have to... fix the facilities >.< it's underproducing rn

is this not the perfect spot for relay tower? lol

[warm nest]

By talos.. its perfect

[blazing urchin]

.peak

[leaden tulip]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1206301591586611270/1308840068890234921/comm2GIF.gif

[sonic sail]

Gonna deduct points for being slightly offcenter and angles not matching

[blazing urchin]

[clever cipher]

cant really do something about that

[rustic rune]

hahaahah but it's 3x3 liek the gods intended

[grand prawn]

Oh man 4k a pop for these new missions? lol

[river schooner]

how many points do I get

(still working the right part)

[sonic sail]

-1 for having a 90.5 angle instead of a 90 degree one

[river schooner]

dang

I'll show you once I complete it 😭

[sharp hamlet]

its fkn angled

-50 points

[pure pagoda]

-1°

[river schooner]

I'll fix it gang

[toxic osprey]

did you fix this too?

[pure pagoda]

200 Usage 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[sweet shoal]

.sahur2

[leaden tulip]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1478360593781096458/HCao2iibkAAGTBs.png?ex=69a81e18&is=69a6cc98&hm=8ed7f473711da39ea1a311179f23677b98cb3f2fb16e39b42a9da666070859b7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=558&height=558

[true plume]

@past glacier did u even read my thread

what I were asking in it

[past glacier]

Yes ive read it

You're appealing your warn

[true plume]

so the answer is ?

no

I was inquiring about it

[past glacier]

I explained it.

[true plume]

so

its shouildnt be a problem if I write it like this

"Women tend to use landmark-based navigation"

[fresh carbon]

Lol what did you do

[true plume]

since im not judging a value anymore

[past glacier]

Like i have said.

[true plume]

and for context

the mod doesnt even give answer to it

[true plume]

about the woman and man spatial thing

[past glacier]

Someone said that they are having issues remembering paths, they did not have any indication they are a woman. You immediately jump the gun and said women are worse at reading maps than men.

What is even the purpose of that comment if not to discredit women?

[true plume]

so this shouldnt be a problem no ?

because we already have a research for it

and its explain why

I knew I was wrong about labelling it fully using "worse"

but if i write it as "tend" should be fine then

I just need an answer

and u doesnt even give it on modmail

[past glacier]

And i read a research that men are worse than women in reading the room. Your point being?

[true plume]

sure then, if we have a research for it its okay

[past glacier]

Well, you're admitting it

Warns expire after a few months

[true plume]

look, what I were asking ?

im not asking about warn removal

what I were asking?

I just need confirmation so I dont write it wrongfully next time

[past glacier]

Or better yet, just don't try to discredit a group of people for the sake of doing so

[true plume]

so its a gray area ?

like literally gray area ?

even if i write it using tends ?

[past glacier]

There is no "softer way" or a "gray area" to mask sexism

Aside from just not doing it

[true plume]

so this paper is sexist
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494404000477
?

[lunar mountain]

hi mitemi

[true plume]

I have the newer one from 2019 if u need it
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6591491/

[past glacier]

If you find the urge to discredit a group of people just because of a one-off comment, be it poc, other nationalities than your own, etc., i personally would to reflect on it a bit

Scientific papers are not made to inherently discredit a group of people. These can be done in hopes to provide better quality of lives, understand the extreme depth in human behavior, or just the history and how it bleeds into centuries of culture and how it shapes evolution

The researches you have linked right now fall into one of those categories, but the medium one you linked before? I do not see any purpose of it other than to divide people.

[true plume]

the point:

1. I already admit I was wrong
2. I ask how to write it better and since u say theres no way to write it softer way or smth
3. then how to present the conclusion from a paper

u kept focusing on mistake that I already admitted

[past glacier]

Ok let's put it in more Discord ways

[true plume]

sure sure

[past glacier]

If you see a female player having an issue in a part of the game that another male player barely remembers that it exists because of how easy it was to him

What do you think is the optics if the male player would say "here are two research papers stating women are worse in games than male"

What will be the said "softer" approach be or the gray area for the situation look like if not to just not do it in the first place?

[past glacier]

Because you're asking if there is a softer way to approach it when the best course of action is to not do it in the first place

So you wouldnt even be spending time in the first place in finding a euthanasia

[true plume]

okay now I understand, so "if" the context / scenario is the 1st sentence on this message, its better to not mentioning about the gender different spatial prowess
noted, thanks for the answer

and if theres maybe a topic (idk maybe in offtopic) regarding that ability (but not limited to this context), can I use the fixed sentence I sent earlier ?
using the "tend" to not label the whole group since its not "absolute"

[past glacier]

If you mean there is already an ongoing conversation about the said map topic?

[true plume]

it doesnt have like continuance from the context where I jumped the gun

yeah, just like off topic things

it doesnt limited to that context only btw

if someone bring the different gender topic

just incase

[past glacier]

For some reason if there's a conversation about this exact topic, your response of "women tend to use landmark-based navigation " is passable as it is a more neutral approach to the topic

[true plume]

aight noted

there u go 😭

Was it really that hard, I had to say my modmail wasnt getting a reply just to get an actual reply

[past glacier]

I would just suggest not getting mixed into it and report if you think it's starting to get out of hand

[true plume]

got it

[past glacier]

There are a bajillion modmails

[true plume]

well what can I say

GL on that

[true plume]

thanks for the concise answer mitemi even though u had bajilion modmails

[past glacier]

Sending in feedback would probably bump it if i see it on a whim.

[past glacier]

[true plume]

I mean, who want to get a warn next time.......

normal discord user usually avoid warn.....

[past glacier]

You would be surprised.

does something funny
"why the waaaaaarn"
argues in modmail

[true plume]

tbf, that can be solved by basic spam filtering no ?

or simple nlp implementation

on the bot side

like the "why the warn"

[past glacier]

Yours and the other guy were hit by the spam filter

Have to find it