aic-factory

[shrewd knoll]

using HE turrets is negative social credit

[lofty plover]

this is super nice

[crimson inlet]

What's the maximum power consumption of Wuling at the current verison? (without turrets and ziplines)

[vestal tiger]

I see

[cunning hornet]

connect your tanks properly first

[vestal tiger]

Unfortunately I don't know how long that will like
Timer

[crimson inlet]

I'm calculating some stuff for explaining and comparing the constant feeding of batteries to D.I.G.E./PWM

[crude nebula]

so if i bully random enemy with 4 sentry and 2 eletric tower thing, it's a positive then?

[cunning hornet]

beam tower meta

[crude nebula]

ah that's it, beam tower, i always forget what its called

[severe nexus]

Surge tower meta

[tepid wind]

ready to deploy on battlefield

[silent violet]

bro is preparing for ww3

[crude nebula]

surge tower is the one that with coil like black ball in the top right?

[shut rover]

Is this the most space inefficient wuling battery production

[crude nebula]

and here the dev put limit on how many turret you can put in each sub-region

[tepid wind]

its ass when i need to craft 15k of this manually instead 25k

[cunning hornet]

why the discrimination against marsh gas tower

[tepid wind]

stinky ahh weapon

[cunning hornet]

ah reasonable

[analog elbow]

How dare you say that

It's a good boy turret

[crude nebula]

marsh and HE is perfect AOE tower to spawn camp essence farm

[analog elbow]

Marsh Tower even has the best redemption arc lore

Considered Failure Adhesive
Turned into one of the best Turret

[cunning hornet]

lmao

[tepid wind]

i wonder if medical tower could heal enemies

[analog elbow]

It is true tho. The description says that

[tepid wind]

[analog elbow]

Nuh uh

[cunning hornet]

i dont doubt it at all

[shut rover]

I guess im gonna do that then

[crimson inlet]

can someone help me with mathing in lc wuling batteries?

[tepid wind]

if it could heal enemy i want to put in middle of that thing

let em suffer

[shut rover]

Whats the conversions rate for wuling bats and yazhen in outpost trade after level 1

[vestal tiger]

I wish the he grenades ignites the marsh gas

[ornate frigate]

Wait, what towers do I use in Essence farming?

[severe nexus]

Did you really build a torture chamber for the alluvium

[cunning hornet]

game has the darnest item description

[vestal tiger]

And someone will have order

[crimson inlet]

1 battery per 40s = 0.025 bat per 10s (is it correct?)

[ornate frigate]

I will have order

[cunning hornet]

Control gives efficiency

[vestal tiger]

I smell makima

Denji is efficient

[tepid wind]

its cheap price to pay for how rigged my essence farm

[ornate frigate]

What next, splitting gives diversity?

[cunning hornet]

lmao

[analog elbow]

[vestal tiger]

Splitting allows segregation

[analog elbow]

Ah yes. All high damage turrets for Bosses with 5-8s interval each shot.

[crimson inlet]

this means, 1.5 batteries is consumed for every minute?

[runic epoch]

Yep

[vestal tiger]

1.333333333

Wait

Is it

[runic epoch]

Also that .25 was right before you changed it to .025

[crimson inlet]

but, every second, the battery produces 1,600w right?

[analog elbow]

Yes

[ornate frigate]

Oh wow I never thought of this

[crimson inlet]

idk man, I'm dumb as chen

[ornate frigate]

Putting up walls around it

[analog elbow]

The enemies won't get far tho

[ornate frigate]

CalcES my beloved 🔥

[analog elbow]

2 Devices Connected to Hotspot 🔥🥵

[runic epoch]

You wrote every 10s 😭

[crimson inlet]

I'm dumb

[glossy sandal]

Hey , how much purple battery is being produced by yall

[vestal tiger]

With factory

[unreal laurel]

18

[ornate frigate]

18

[analog elbow]

180

[ornate frigate]

You can produce 18.67, but literally unnecessary

[glossy sandal]

Is 18 including every use of the main PAC and 3 subs in Valley IV?

[analog elbow]

Just core for me

[glossy sandal]

Wtf ur able to produce 180 just using the core

[unreal laurel]

It includes the use of all ores minus 20 originium after making goods for selling

[glossy sandal]

[analog elbow]

With Grade A Meds

[vestal tiger]

I use all the subpacs and not core

[analog elbow]

0 are non existent

[glossy sandal]

[glossy sandal]

Thats pretty nice

[ornate frigate]

0 is not a significant figure 🔥

[analog elbow]

It's just an empty number

[glossy sandal]

Brother got 16k purple bats already

[analog elbow]

160K

[vestal tiger]

It's sad It can't sell

[shut rover]

12 a minute because im already getting millions per trade

[ornate frigate]

Already have 33k surplus Buck A

[glossy sandal]

Selling drugs ????

[ornate frigate]

[glossy sandal]

Im just doing blue battery rn , cause im upgrading my outpost

[shut rover]

My meds is 6 a min because inefficiency at its peak

[glossy sandal]

My wuling and valley iv factory are cooked

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[glossy sandal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357969763783020797/1369651891486724178/i-drew-my-boyfriend-as-his-favorite-id-for-his-b-day-v0-daxnibs5m2ze1.gif

[ornate frigate]

Btw @analog elbow
I checked my V4 factory for a moment, and noticed I produced 19/min HC and 25/min Citrome C in one minute before going back to normal

How dat happen bru

[analog elbow]

I helped you for a moment

That's why

[ornate frigate]

This was truly our production assist in Dijiang

[crude nebula]

explosive gas, what could go wrong

[analog elbow]

My toilet has a fricking signal jammer inside

[ornate frigate]

[analog elbow]

I ain't getting any signal wtf

[crude nebula]

yeah, just make sure you are also fighting in the middle so the enemy won't damage the tower durability

[severe nexus]

What a beautiful quote to end the night on

[analog elbow]

Like the wifi does appear on my List but it seems to be interfering when I try to connect.

[crude nebula]

so you build PAC in toilet?

[analog elbow]

While inside

[analog elbow]

Nah

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-more-gif-23888098

[analog elbow]

Ain't getting signal bruh

[somber snow]

must be some real shit in there to block ur connection

[analog elbow]

Idk might be haunted

[shut rover]

Is your toilet an entire bathtub

[analog elbow]

Lots of my "children" were abandoned there

[severe nexus]

Tmi

[somber snow]

in the toilet?
same

[analog elbow]

I was joking

[somber snow]

wdym, i thought we were talking about poo

[analog elbow]

Cap

[severe nexus]

Too late to turn back now

[tepid wind]

[crimson inlet]

So, formula:

Consumption of batteries
1bat/40s = 0.25bat/10s * 6 (60s) = 1.5bat/min

Power generation per thermal
1,600w/1s, thus 1,600w*60s = 96,000w/min

[shut rover]

Why so sophisticated

[severe nexus]

w is already a per time unit

[crude nebula]

he prepare to be someone in charge of real power plant

[analog elbow]

Uhh yeah. Of course I don't do that
Just don't check my factory

[crimson inlet]

right, I forgot about that

[shrewd knoll]

the units are clear GJ, they are doing fusion things with originium

[severe nexus]

She gonna be real disappointed when she sees all the pwm and dige bs we doing

[analog elbow]

[crude nebula]

i think she already know, since she's on the main team that active

[analog elbow]

Her honest reaction

[severe nexus]

Would pwm again

[crimson inlet]

I'm making a guide for Chen

[crude nebula]

chen learning PWM what could go wrong

[shrewd knoll]

does chen's resource gathering guide involve smacking ore with her sword?

[smoky eagle]

Finally done with all the quests

[shut rover]

I can probably do one more of this for another bats but i need xiranite component....

Anyway

How many star forge can be placed

[crimson inlet]

smacking ore then realizing there's machines for that

[crude nebula]

max 2 for now (1 of it from research on the far right bottom corner of research menu)

[crimson inlet]

(gonna draw a machine that carriers a sword to mine stuff) only to her seeing just a box

[shrewd knoll]

just unlearn everything you learned about ratios and distribute xiranite however you want

[severe nexus]

So real

[shut rover]

Bummer

[smoky eagle]

Lol

[shut rover]

I guess im using the other star forge for xiranite components

[analog elbow]

Peak Essential

Peak of Forms

[glad needle]

talos 2 would be extinct if this plant gone

[crude nebula]

so you dare to challenge Ferrium ore ?

[analog elbow]

Minus 50% the cause of international machine errors

[analog elbow]

Can't even compare. One sandleaf is enough to supply the entirety of Talos 2

[shrewd knoll]

it's literally just a renewable source of sand...im sure they have quarries to dig up rocks

[analog elbow]

It's the equivalent of 1% from the 99% germs killed

It's just there

[smoky eagle]

Is there anything close to sandleaf IRL

It just be sand

[analog elbow]

Won't be extinct whatsoever

[shut rover]

I forgot how much xiranite and packed oricrust xiranite components need

[analog elbow]

Mf is everywhere 🤫

[smoky eagle]

Surprised this game doesn't have Glass products like flasks and stuff

Common use of sand is turning it to glass...

[crimson inlet]

I'm mathing like chen

[analog elbow]

They even made special spots for Sandleaf in Wuling

[shrewd knoll]

just make a second battery and then convert the originium by sending them through the refinery after grinder and you have the same material to make the component

[shut rover]

Sounds big

[shut rover]

Wait... its 3 grinder and 1 starforge again?

[shrewd knoll]

it wont be, because you wont be able to 100% efficiency it

it'll probably be minus 2/3 of the originium if you decide to use all of the xiranite

so you can just start deleting stuff after copying it

[crude nebula]

If you really eant to maxed out, i think split the 2 sky forges output into 5:1 ratio to craft battery and component. Since component isn't a daily thing too do because crafting armor is so damn expensive

[shut rover]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-cinco-de-mayo-5demayo-gru-sad-gif-5389265

[somber gale]

Please how do we open the menu to send stuff to wuling again

[crude nebula]

Go to any PAC, then press F on the management option, then i think regional trnasfer button

[shut rover]

I was gonna say excess xiranite from packaging could work then i remember its a 5 xiranite per 10 seconds

[somber gale]

Alright

[somber gale]

om on mobile currently

Oh nvm I see it thanks

[stray jasper]

Okguys i have a question. How much thermal banks can a 100% efficiency Packaging unit feed?

[shut rover]

1

[stray jasper]

Just 1? TOT

bruh

[shut rover]

4 if you can do it right

[crude nebula]

Yeah, i don't build factory that much on mobile version, but the UI position should be the same

[stray jasper]

I did the 2:3 on the packaging unit (for purple bat) so wouldnt that be enough?

[somber gale]

I have a huge ferrium ore issue on both maps. is there a way out of it?

[crude nebula]

No

[shut rover]

Even if its 100% feed efficiency, it wouldn't be able to feed four at once

[hollow drum]

depends on how much you're using on V4

For Wuling there isn't a lot you can do

[smoky eagle]

How many secs is each Wuling Battery?

[crude nebula]

It's like your maximum production speed is based on available natural resources

[somber snow]

40

[lofty plover]

what do you mean?

40 secs to use a battery
1 battery made every 10 seconds
therefore, 4 thermal banks

[shut rover]

You'd have to use two splitters and four banks in one line so it can go into each bank every 10 seconds

[somber gale]

Yield at 940
usuage at 940

for current data

[lofty plover]

just use 4 output belts if you dont wanna split it does the same thing, they are used sequentially

[shut rover]

1 method tried

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1236980670081929247.png?quality=lossless&name=Clueless&size=480

[hollow drum]

youre missing a couple of mines in V4 then

max Ferrium yield in V4 is 1080

[somber snow]

a bit dangerous though,
better to do 3 or 2,
my entire factory died becuz of it

[hollow drum]

So you're either missing mines or your RDM level is low (or both)

[crude nebula]

Why do you need 4 banks

[somber gale]

That's my theoritical usuage data

[crude nebula]

Like the usage still around 2 banks

[somber gale]

Dang let me go through the mines and see

[stray jasper]

Can the pwm method feed 4 banks? Even with the temporary brownouts/flactuation?

[shut rover]

Mine is still kicking despite the last two having 0 bats in them every 30 seconds

[cunning hornet]

some are in "hidden" areas

[lofty plover]

dangerous in what way?If your thermal banks aren't all close to the output then yeah i guess travel time affects it, but if all the batteries need to travel the same distance its fine

[shut rover]

How many packaging units you have for purple bats

[crude nebula]

No, this is the real value, unless you already stocked on your depot, thats why the real data only show less of it

[severe nexus]

With proper splitter setup travel time has no effect

[stray jasper]

1 so far cuz im just testing rn

[severe nexus]

All banks get their batteries in 40s intervals

[shut rover]

Im using this exactly

[somber snow]

mine had belts with similar lengths,
but it somehow still didnt prevent a blackout

[shut rover]

You could do 2 purple bats production and have 2 banks each

[stray jasper]

Ayt

[somber snow]

in any case, u only need 2 batteries on 2 packaging units,
and 1 for the third, enough to supply v4

[severe nexus]

What did your setup look like

[somber gale]

What's the max yield you can get

[lofty plover]

did you overuse sandleaf? were you not at full capacity? lots of factors but the question was "if you have 100% efficient packaging unit how much CAN it sustain"

[somber snow]

idk, i already destroyed it

[crude nebula]

Max ferrium if not full in depot and you had all rig running

In valley 4: 1080
Wuling: forgot the number

[severe nexus]

I have seen people just putting splitters in a line which is not the right way to split into 4 banks

[shrewd knoll]

its actually fine if you stash them first

you can put even more than 4

[somber snow]

24/min cit C
18/min cit A
18/min HC bat

i didnt overuse anything,
i had more yields

[vestal tiger]

How does one overuse sandleaf

Or any plant

[wet pagoda]

just make a direct connection from packaging unti and thermal bank, 1 output per bank, did that and never got power shortage

[shut rover]

Actually that would be a problem because the last two is always empty every 10 seconds of making

[somber snow]

idk, forgot to put more planters maybe

[shut rover]

Didn't have more planters

[calm crow]

Too little planters maybe

[shrewd knoll]

because it won't be your only factory producing them, you'd have a surplus no matter what

[somber snow]

4 thermals for 1 packaging unit is unnecessary anyway

[wet pagoda]

well you use 100% of it

[shrewd knoll]

and you wont be burning 6 HC batteries in thermals per minute anyway if you didn't have a full factory

[shut rover]

I have two packaging and only one is feeding the bank while the other is going straight into depot

[shrewd knoll]

no need for that much power

[calm crow]

Is this in Wuling or Valley?

[somber snow]

valley

[calm crow]

I use 4 because of too much zipline

[shut rover]

And im here using 4 because 3.20k+ power

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1236980670081929247.png?quality=lossless&name=Clueless&size=480

[shrewd knoll]

the problem with that setup is that your thermals never saturate and may fail if the packaging starts to get less resources than optimal

[wet pagoda]

i use 6 xd, 5k+

[somber snow]

when i say 4, i meant 4 on 1 packaging unit,
not in total

[shrewd knoll]

so storing them, then using them is the safe way

[somber snow]

i do 2 2 1

[light ingot]

does an efficient factory look like where all adjacent depot bus tiles must be output ports?

[somber snow]

the thermals will be filled with bats,
wont run out,
and it looks pretty

[wet pagoda]

well stroring all prod and output from base/unloader is safest way to use power bank

[shut rover]

I have like two parts and three dense ori powder getting feed into it

And they're always constant since i made sure they're all 100%

[shrewd knoll]

doesnt matter, if you are splitting 4 way, there will be a second where it lose power because of server ticks

[shut rover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1246672952074829837.png?quality=lossless&name=isitworthit&size=480

[somber snow]

hmm server ticks,
thats probably the reason my factory died somehow

[shut rover]

I'll have to check how its going by now

[shrewd knoll]

just use them from the storage unloader instead so it can pretty much never die

[severe nexus]

Even if it did occur, losing generation for a single tick is negligible

[shut rover]

Haven't check for the past 3 days

[stark osprey]

Can someone give me the size of a maxed out Sub-Aic in squares?

[severe nexus]

Your power reserves aren't going to be depleted in 1 tick

[shrewd knoll]

it is negligible if you have excess power but if you were generating exactly the amount of power you need, you will go dark

[severe nexus]

If your factory dies it is likely because of a different, larger issue

[somber snow]

now, someone explain to me how to make it so that i can feed a thermal bank with a battery in 70 to 80 seconds

[shut rover]

When can we get overclocked production rate and faster belts

[stark osprey]

I mean how many Square x Square is the size of one

[wet pagoda]

its 40x40 no?

[stark osprey]

I can't get to the laptop and check at the moment

Had to ask to make a quick schematic in my head

[severe nexus]

2^3*3^2

Get rid of a power of 2 cuz belt flow

So 4 splitters 2 being three way

Roughly

[somber snow]

im not entirely sure if that made sense to me

[severe nexus]

I'm about to sleep so I'm afraid I can't really go in game and send an example

[somber snow]

does it have anything to do with putting more belts from the unit to slow it down

[vestal tiger]

There's a link for that

[wet pagoda]

you want to modulate your power ?

[severe nexus]

But the gist is a belt sends 1u/2s, a two way splitter doubles the interval, a three way splitter triples the interval

[somber snow]

i want to store more batteries,
while barely keeping my factory alive, yes

[stray jasper]

Guys if i go to wuling rn. Will i start with 0 power ? Or the power from valley still connects to wuling

[somber snow]

ok, i understand now

[shrewd knoll]

you get 200

[lofty plover]

Could you do me a favour and take some more screenshots but zoom in? I can't quite see for the icons but im trying to recreate it

[stray jasper]

Kkk

[somber snow]

u just have to mess with it,
slow it down with splitters to the point where u use a battery every 70 to 80 secs,
the rest u store

this is a lot better than just slapping belts from the packaging unit

also, is there any point to using dige for anything else other than battery?

[shrewd knoll]

Theres really no point in using it at all, they can just make smaller batteries and divert the ferrium into something else

[somber snow]

now im tempted

[real crescent]

no not really. only other use i have seen is slowing down xira component production to match the rate at which you buy catalysts weekly

[real crescent]

big batteries have a better ressources to money rate tho

[shrewd knoll]

not by that much if you calculate the resource to money ratio and then include the power usage of the facilities required to operate it, there is like a +4 to resources used per battery

[tepid wind]

[dusky moth]

why the splitter?

And what does this do

[carmine igloo]

can someone help me to improve this there's so much space

[somber snow]

wuling maxing

[shrewd knoll]

make those circle air drying belts

[shut rover]

I probably can do yazhen syringe by now

[warped niche]

never do drugs

[frosty jungle]

first attempt at trying to optimize the xiranite production, any idea to improve it more?

[dense wyvern]

Use wuling plant instead or buckflower

[frosty jungle]

we can produce carbon with other plant than buckflower or sandleaf? ingame database doesn't provide other recipe (or maybe I have to unlock it?)

[craggy whale]

@atomic fiber do u probably have server discord endfield for people who inventing something on factory

[craggy whale]

wuling has limited to do for factory

so its fine

[shrewd knoll]

carbon has a extensive recipe list, anything you can shred from farms, u can turn into carbon equivalent in refineries

[frosty jungle]

ohhhh, okay, the game was just showing 2 recipes only that's why I assumed that I wasn't able to use something other than sandleaf and buckflower to produce carbon

[shrewd knoll]

you can turn it into carbon at any step, from the whole plant, the powder form, the grinded form

[atomic fiber]

most people that play factory already done on factory now.
like people just playing with useless stuff now

[craggy whale]

yeah fr battery

[shut rover]

Valley produce 2 seeds per plants while wuling produce 2 plants per seed making carbon production much more space efficient and would only have to use one refinery to fill two shredder and both shredder can fill two grinder

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1236980670081929247.png?quality=lossless&name=Clueless&size=480

[somber snow]

not to mention that wuling plants produce 2 carbon,
while valley plants only produce 1

wait u said that already

[shut rover]

The least space efficiency at its finest

[craggy whale]

@severe nexus im confused af now my brain just not braining lol

how to keep maintaining that lol

open and close 1 4 1 4 1 4 lol

[lofty plover]

whats the highest originium ore yield in the valley? My theoretical yield is 480 per minute

[craggy whale]

560

[lofty plover]

so im missing some... 😫

[lofty plover]

ah right!!

[lofty plover]

hahhaa it was all at the hub somehow - do some mining spots appear as you level up? Might explain why i missed them?

[craggy whale]

yes

[lofty plover]

although im now at 520, no other maps show me as missing some

although maybe it takes a while for theoretical yield to go up?

[somber snow]

this works somehow

[craggy whale]

there veins thats not yet the time to be mined

[craggy whale]

i mean it is 1 one of em is every 64 sec

and one of em is 128sec

[somber snow]

i put 2 thermal banks,
becuz they recharge the battery faster

i quite literally saved less than 1% of my batteries, and im happy with this

[lofty plover]

Is there a chance im still using old originium rigs? are they not as powerful? How would i know if i accidentally have some old machines?

[somber snow]

mk1 and mk2 are the same,
the difference is,
mk2 uses 2x the power, but it can mine ferrium

unless u're talking about portable originium rigs

[sand plinth]

is there any point putting up zipline pylons over towers?

[lofty plover]

I got it, 560, i forgot the lil valley existed oopsie

[somber snow]

now build a fully optimised mega factory

[glad needle]

you dont need to improve anything when there's a little to build

[vestal tiger]

I forgot that one carbon cube makes 2 carbon powder and dense carbon needs 2, so I have 2 extra lines feeding the grinding unit for dense carbon.
I spent like the last 1 hour and something to fit stuff otherwiseeee

[vestal tiger]

It's cheaper

That's about ot

[nova lodge]

cheaper to produce? yes
other than that, literally no reason to use pylons over towers

more so after you had setup an automation line for cryston part production.

[somber snow]

yeah, just craft 10,000 zipline towers,
and you wont ever need cryston anymore

[marble yarrow]

invest in cryston bottles

[nova lodge]

fancy :3

[marble yarrow]

maybe i should spend 1 extra battery to burn 40k of each ore reserves

[unreal laurel]

helo,how do i build endmin

[marble yarrow]

me, i still havent lmao

[unreal laurel]

how does 1 battery do that

[marble yarrow]

maybe when i get Grand Vision

[unreal laurel]

is that a wpn?

[marble yarrow]

yeah 6 star weapon

lmao 1$

[nova lodge]

its a good investment pack.

[normal wasp]

has anyone ever used a converger in their factory?..like having multiple materials in one transport belt?

[nova lodge]

yes, but usually convergers aren't used

[somber snow]

i have,
i use it to waste less space

[nova lodge]

unless you wanna do PWM stuff.....or for slow output materials.

[normal wasp]

can i see how u use it?

[small creek]

its really niche

[somber snow]

let me check if i still have it,
i revamped my factory not too long ago

[small creek]

pwm, low yield, or combining 1/10s outputs

[normal wasp]

i tried using the converger but things cloggs up afterwards so i wanna know how u guys effectively use it

[carmine igloo]

best factory?

[nova lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-break-dance-endfield-arknights-arknights-endfield-gif-12163275330078387139

[small creek]

endfield

oh ffs i thought i was on my pc search bar

[somber snow]

for things that have low yield,
like buck/citrome A/B/C,
or batteries

[small creek]

nono low yield is smth different

i was confused w that too

[somber snow]

if it's low yield, u can just combine the belt with another,
thats what i used to do

[small creek]

#aic-factory message

this is a true low yield

[nova lodge]

an example of converger use case

[atomic fiber]

https://x.com/i/status/2024794602432241725

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【ニュース】『アークナイツ：エンドフィールド』で“繰り上がり対応加算機”が発明される。集成工業システムはとうとう「足し算可能」に
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X · Feb 20, 2026, 10:33 AM

someone make calculator

on endfield factory

[small creek]

this is combining multiple 1/10s

[nova lodge]

anything more than 0.5 production per second = can't be used with converger

[small creek]

i wouldnt call it low yield since its technically max yield

yk

[somber snow]

yeah, like what yuzu said,
u can use convergers for those to conserve space

[somber snow]

what term would u use for a production line that isnt constantly filled?

[atomic fiber]

you can also use stash if you don't mind the fact that it use more space. stash don't clog like converger or splitter

[nova lodge]

low output.

[small creek]

look im just trying to make a difference between the two

you cant just call a max output buckA "low yield"

[somber snow]

i understand, but i still think we need to call it something

[young stag]

should i feed 5 sprinklers with just 1 pump

[small creek]

honestly dk

[vestal tiger]

Dige

[vestal tiger]

Can

[somber snow]

extra belt space

[small creek]

ive been saying this long shit for a while

[somber snow]

eh, this works

[young stag]

can, but should i

[vestal tiger]

One pump can feed like 10

[somber snow]

1 pump is enough for the entire field,
u're not gonna farm the entire day anyway

[vestal tiger]

Yes

[young stag]

ah ok

[somber snow]

the fastest growing plants take like half an hour,
or are there faster?

[small creek]

this is my converger use

[atomic fiber]

I have poop auto detector that make fertilizer when there is poop and go back to making xiranite when there is no cow poop on depot

[small creek]

convergers in red, belt line in blue

[small creek]

basically combine 1 batt and 4 citromeC into one line

[atomic fiber]

it's ugly yes

[somber snow]

this is so convenient,
im gonna have to make this

[small creek]

do yall actually use fertilizer 😭

[somber snow]

YES

[small creek]

aint nobody got time to get poop

we need a burdenbeast auto-patter

[atomic fiber]

i don't recommend. it not worth the Sanity
that things need exactly 1 xiranite liquid for 1 poop.

and it must be at exact same time with precision! absolutely cancer

[small creek]

maybe then i will consider

[somber snow]

oh its timing,
well thats annoying,
i thought it actually has some kind of detector

[normal wasp]

actually what i mean is using converger by having 2 or more different types of materials go thru it and all those materials get in 1 transport belt

[somber snow]

ill try anyways

[nova lodge]

welp, that's about all of the collectibles done for V4.

[vestal tiger]

Waw

[small creek]

gg turn off your v4 factory now

[atomic fiber]

if you are Asia this is the code
EFO0152142o339u99eioe

[nova lodge]

[somber snow]

nice,
now buy the tianshi pillar model

[small creek]

ill get my last collectible too tmrw i think

oh hell nah

i dont even wanna buy the base expansions

[atomic fiber]

my poop auto detector do that yes. it mix 3 item. sandleaf seed, poop, and xiranite

[nova lodge]

artifice requirements too expensive, so no
maybe later if i have substantial xiranite productions ;v.

[small creek]

i mean my batts and citromeC now only use 1 belt to go to the subPAC

pretty neat

the alternative was having like, 3 protocol stashes

[stark osprey]

what was the max for valley 4? 18/min hc batteries and 18/min buck A?

[small creek]

which are bulky and use 5 power each (ew)

[royal eagle]

Why i cant get syringe to 5

[somber snow]

im saving up to buy all the sanity usage permits in v4,
its gonna cost 36 mil, dear lord

[nova lodge]

18 battery HC
18 buck A capsule
28 citrome C

important items to produce are HC battery, and Buck A capsule.

[small creek]

not using enough ferrite

[royal eagle]

Its max without clogging

[stark osprey]

you can get them to 5.75/min but you need metastorage transfer

[royal eagle]

Without transfer

I don't want to transfer

[small creek]

no clogging sure but your filling unit has idle periods (zzz)

metastorage transfer is literally free rss

what are we doin dawg

[stark osprey]

I never looked into citrome C honestly

[royal eagle]

That increases my total output?

[small creek]

u can skip citrome C honestly

what you need is to USE more ferrite

not MORE ferrite

[atomic fiber]

that is max without transfer... but wait why is your only 4/min indeed. it should be 4.5/min with 90/min ferrium can you screenshot the factory part that make it?

[small creek]

you already have a ton of ferrite stockpiled

the problem is not enough throughput into your filling unit resulting in it idling

[stark osprey]

I was organizing things based on the 18/min hc batteries and 18/min buck A honestly

[small creek]

you'll notice that your yazhen planter and seeder is also clogged cus of insufficient ferrite usage

[nova lodge]

its additional income.
not completely necessary, but it gives your amethyst stock something to be used for.

besides tons of zipline towers :v

[small creek]

honestly i think its better to just make zipline tower

[somber snow]

if you want to be more efficient,
just make amethyst bottles

[stark osprey]

Fair point. The issue will be finding a way to fit it inside tho

[small creek]

my battery and capsule stockpiling, outpost never have credit to buy my citrome lmao

[royal eagle]

Its 2hr average. it shouldn't be like that ?

[nova lodge]

i didn't have any issue fitting them in, it should be fine.

[atomic fiber]

i want to see the 10 min graph please

[nova lodge]

doubt you will need to over optimize your base just to fit in citrome productions.

[royal eagle]

Okay

[stark osprey]

is it possible to fit a buck A line in a sub-aic?

[small creek]

u really dont need to

[stark osprey]

you would be surprised...

[small creek]

i just put citrome c for fun

like a challenge

fitting 6/min HC batt and 24/min citromeC in 1 subpac

[nova lodge]

part of it, yes.
i just place my plant and powder production in a corner usually.
no reason to clog up space meant for unloader line sections.

[stark osprey]

I'm redoing the entire Valley 4 now just to fit the second buck A line and have space for the 3rd one also

[somber snow]

ppl struggle with putting citrome C production down?

[royal eagle]

@atomic fiber

[stark osprey]

I gave up on sending the powder straight as it takes more space than it should unloader wise and I just send in the plant itself to process it

[atomic fiber]

ah... it should be fine then. yes that is max syringe C yield with 90/min ferrium

4.5/min Syringe C

[royal eagle]

Ok thanks

[stark osprey]

The hc line for example

[atomic fiber]

looks good enough

[small creek]

so much green 🥀

[stark osprey]

it's mostly based on a design I made at infra station to fit it there

[atomic fiber]

well... yeah not perfect, but at least that work

[tiny wind]

Too much space do it again

[small creek]

the world must be GREY AND ORANGE

[stark osprey]

my main issue is fitting the electric pylons usually

[tiny wind]

[normal wasp]

how fast exactly is the transport belt assuming it got full materials to carry around?

[stark osprey]

at least I found a way to do it

[nova lodge]

after you had gotten used to designing production lines, you can always optimize it later.

[atomic fiber]

30/min
or
0.5/sec

[stark osprey]

I hate using blueprints for others and I make my own

the one time I had to request help was the jincao drink line

that thing gave me headaches

[small creek]

i like to modify bps

mostly to reduce fac count and remove stash

[tiny wind]

I would actually go and review othere bp and see what i can improve

[nova lodge]

always use corners for plants~~~

[small creek]

but i made a few too

[atomic fiber]

i have enough trauma modifying bull sht black magic BP, not again
I'm not touching any more black magic

[nova lodge]

back to eco farm :v

[small creek]

black magic good 👍

[marble yarrow]

sushi gang

[small creek]

i actually removed the black magic from one

[atomic fiber]

lol

[stark osprey]

this is what I was talking about regarding the headaches

[small creek]

there was like, a bp that had pylons and depot unloaders OUTSIDE the subpac area

[unreal laurel]

can someone helo me with endmin building

[small creek]

so u had to place them separately after placing the bp

[nova lodge]

i will deal with center type build for wulling AIC later after new wulling update comes out.
other than that, can keep the depot line to the side for now, same as V4 builds.

[small creek]

i moved shit around just to try and put them back in lol

[atomic fiber]

Qyurii can

[small creek]

i dont endmin building faaahh

[tiny wind]

I like to start from the end

[small creek]

go #theorycrafting, maybe some good ppl there

im just yapper lowk

[tiny wind]

#aic-factory bruh

[stark osprey]

This was me using the space left over after upgrading to the 3rd space tier of the sub-aic and deciding to fit in a jincao drink line as I knew it was possible but had no clue how. The ferrium line was an issue and a guy here helped me make the 115/min ferium line to get a 5.75/min jincao line

[small creek]

fkn pwm ferrite

i am never doing that shit

[stark osprey]

if it works it works

[nova lodge]

me lazy
me just go 120 ferrium usage.
me transfer from dijiang once every 2-3 days.

[small creek]

i hate pwm 🗣️ 🔥

[stark osprey]

I like to forget about things and let them do their own thing while I fix other stuff usually

[nova lodge]

and that's fine too~~~

[stark osprey]

at least it does the job

[atomic fiber]

great

[nova lodge]

welp....time to hijack someone else spaceship while i sell my goods :3

when fluff jincao powder > jincao drink....

imagine....snorting on drugs mid fight lul

[stark osprey]

lol

[nova lodge]

[stark osprey]

I just like making Jincao since they look like aloe vera grenades

explosive healing

[nova lodge]

taking a jincao bath midfight, the AIC FLEX!

[smoky eagle]

found the pit, letsgoo

[nova lodge]

then shake off the excess jincao water the ikemen way.

[smoky eagle]

yess

[stark osprey]

Yvonne bots filled with Jincao to heal the enemies just to nuke them the next second

[smoky eagle]

i placed it in tank

[dense wyvern]

Need to use these syringes before they expire....

[smoky eagle]

letsgooo

Sprite

[stark osprey]

This will be fun

[smoky eagle]

Freedom of Expansion...

[wet pagoda]

its funny how 60 bottle can fill up such a big tank

[smoky eagle]

now to drown in herbal medicine...

[nova lodge]

welp.....i should really focus leveling up yvonne team now.
especially with her weapon banner coming out in a few days.

[vestal tiger]

Medicine and poison differs only in dosage

[nova lodge]

wise words of john endfield.

remember, eat originum rock, its good for you :3
trus :3

it came from a 'tree' all organic.

[silent fractal]

is this how it's supposed to look like? i feel that someting is wrong

[atomic fiber]

why so many wave

[silent fractal]

[nova lodge]

i think its good.
if ferrium is covered bny meta transfer, then its all covered.

troll xiranite usage :3

due to the occasional gear component productions.

[silent fractal]

do you limit xiranite components ?

[nova lodge]

ehehehe

[silent fractal]

[nova lodge]

don't mind me, mine is just slightly more overkill

[crimson inlet]

tisiming so hard, I wish I picked electrical engineering than comsci and have Obsidian be able to import Mathjax packages for SI units

is it correct though?

[misty grotto]

I'm trying to pwm 500 power, from 4600 to 5100, yet the guide I follow is giving me 5600

Idk what to do

[small creek]

if your v4 usage is <5.7k, you dont need pwm

you'll bankrupt outpost regardless

you will end up with more batteries, but cant sell them anw lol

[misty grotto]

Yeah true, I am backlogged

[nova lodge]

hmm....kinda sad that you can't layer pipe spitters on top of belt splitters....

[small creek]

wuling breakpoint is 2.2k but you have to do a little bit of black magic

aka 8 banks with raw originium

[proud plaza]

which one of these transport grids techniques is more efficient?

[marble yarrow]

which one "works" i guess

[small creek]

left is more optimized for less fac count, right is more compact
the real problem here is that filling unit idling

wait is that a converger on the right

that sucks

[real crescent]

right is clogging up

[small creek]

go left

[real crescent]

you are trying to put two max capacity belts into one

[proud plaza]

[nova lodge]

nothing much better to do....went and make a seed production factory :v

[proud plaza]

so my whole system is wrong

[frigid citrus]

just go wander around? or is there a specific places?

[marble yarrow]

aight slow drain time. 2 days

[crimson inlet]

if only we have a 1x1 energy pylon

[small creek]

u can remove 1 stash if u move the middle pylon i thinkk

[nova lodge]

me don't wanna deal with clogs later :v.

[small creek]

its just plants, stash wont clog

[nova lodge]

2 different plant seeds....that i am not gonna use though?
(depot stockpilling for no reason at all :3)

[small creek]

well in the first place why make seeds 😭

i made 10k and dipped

[real crescent]

this means you are up to date with the main quest, do whatever until they release the next part

[marble yarrow]

just alternate them bro, in 1 planter 1 seeder

[nova lodge]

0 sanity gameplay, except its less fluid filling and more towards production :3

[small creek]

wait

converger into seeder?

that could be kinda crazy

fuck, i know what im gonna do tmrw

[marble yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1473259267208511620/Untitled.mp4?ex=6999839d&is=6998321d&hm=8228a0ad392d632e77817fb1d6bae4a33177b64edb0862d0b7246cb00dc3e6ff&

[small creek]

nvm

[nova lodge]

[small creek]

thats just, what i had in mind anw

its so cursed i love it

[nova lodge]

definitely an idea, considering the limited ferrium nodes, thank you.

[small creek]

its low yield but really funny

[glad needle]

this actually make sense

kek

[small creek]

okay ill just

idk, try to make symmetrical version tmrw

[marble yarrow]

there's a micro-sleep here but easily fixable

[nova lodge]

its very good for min-maxing your reactor use.

[normal wasp]

what do you guys think of this sandleaf farm?. as someone who hates having unused space this satisfies my kenophobia

[glad needle]

you wasting your wuling battery i would say

[marble yarrow]

all that. for a 1 belt output

[small wraith]

Guys facility and logistics limit reached , what to do , how do you check those limits

[glad needle]

or maybe im too cheap

[marble yarrow]

lmaooo

[small creek]

wait this produces plants, not seeds?

[marble yarrow]

yeah plants

[small creek]

place pylons outside aic

[marble yarrow]

i send them to crucible

[small wraith]

Ok

[small creek]

eh ill just make a version for both

[marble yarrow]

if its for seed then it will be easier

[small creek]

seed is easier yea

the belts will be balanced-ish

[velvet glen]

Man, the Wuling base has such a stupidly low Facilities limit, I'm hitting it even with like 1/3rd the base still empty

[young stag]

is the ferrium input rate with metastorage 115 or 120

for wuling

[lucid narwhal]

Yeah Wuling is a terrible region

[somber snow]

actually,
why are there 2 belts, when u can just make 1

[lucid narwhal]

I wish they would simplify some of the endgame formulas. I'm not enjoying it when Xiranite takes up half of my factory in one space

[marble yarrow]

so i can release 2 produced plants at once. without the planter having to wait

[royal eagle]

Alternatively using batteries is nice

[young stag]

xiranite doesn’t take up that much space what

[somber snow]

oh, there's lag?
im gonna need to see that for myself

[lucid narwhal]

it takes up a lot for me because of the plants and then having to produce enough to get two of those carbon blocks at once whatever it's called

[young stag]

nah wait ts is kinda cool

[velvet glen]

I just don't understand why the limit is 512 instead of at least the same as Hub, the base is just as big, and you have way more stuff spread out outside the base.

[marble yarrow]

90 from mineral nodes
25 from regional transfer (1500 per hour)

[young stag]

fuck it is 115

[lucid narwhal]

I agree, the limit should be significantly higher

[young stag]

i’m at a 5/m deficit

man fuck this game

[lucid narwhal]

I'm at 30 xiranite/hr and I hate myself for it

[marble yarrow]

can just let it run out, or use exactly 115/min

[lucid narwhal]

I haven't even gotten to the "fun" recipes like those big potions or the purple batteries, or steel, and now I almost kinda wanna quit the game lol

[young stag]

i’m just gonna manual import every few days

whatever

[lucid narwhal]

same, if anyone has a good site where the best blueprints are shared, I want to know so I don't have to waste time figuring things out anymore. Figuring things out is such an unoptimized way of playing

I thought "oh man, if I figure things out then that's so fun because then I can be self-sufficient" LOL NOPE

[velvet glen]

Eh, it's all personal stuff with that, i personally love doing my own thing in factory

I just hate that the wuling base specifically has a factory item limit that is way too low, cus my optimized base has so much unused space because of it

[lucid narwhal]

The only thing I like about wuling is how you don't gotta worry about that 80.1m cable meme

[velvet glen]

Hah, see, I felt the opposite, I actually kinda like trying to manage cable lengths, but to each their own.

[young stag]

no like how are you out of space already

[lucid narwhal]

I did too, but I can see why others wouldn't like it

[young stag]

you have another sub pac you can push irrelevant shit to

like planters

[lucid narwhal]

because I have never played a factory game before, so figuring things out made my routes into spaghetti, since I didn't use other people's blueprints

[velvet glen]

The whole point though, is why is the limit set anywhere near where a level where you can't fill out the base's surface area.

[young stag]

try going for modularity

if you can’t make something all in one line, split it up

[small wraith]

Faculty and logistics limit exceeded in valley pass , what to do ? , how to check the limit

[lucid narwhal]

what I did for xiranite was made the carbon and sandleaf elsewhere, then the xiranite itself in the main base, but now I gotta worry about the battery production, so I don't know where to put any of that anymore

[young stag]

i’m only at 229/300

facilities

[velvet glen]

Yeah, that is definitely better in Wuling than V4, since there you're often gated by number of available uploaders, so you have to do some self-sufficient builds to prevent running out. Much less of an issue in wuling.

[lucid narwhal]

also I donno where to put pipes in this game

[young stag]

research the depot bus

[lucid narwhal]

I try putting pipes and then realize a building I want to put is in the way

[velvet glen]

I'm talking about the main Wuling city base, where the limit is 512 for some godawful reason

[lucid narwhal]

I did, and then I made a flaw where I put depot buses on the edges of everywhere because I didn't realize I could do it like the setup you showed me lol. I got so used to depot buses being on the edge in V4 that I didn't realize I could just split them in Wuling

[velvet glen]

even though it's just as big of an area as the Hub

[lucid narwhal]

see why I hate figuring things out myself now?

[brittle mauve]

what are yall using ferrium for in wuling

[small wraith]

Can I get some limit space if I remove control part

[lucid narwhal]

my brain is more smooth than Chen's. She has more braincell than me. Figuring things out myself is a net loss

[young stag]

do you use that much bridges

[velvet glen]

I used it early on to make med packs, for when I didn't want to use all my xiranite for battery production because I wanted to save some and make components etc.

[young stag]

you can put them in the middle of your base

[velvet glen]

The Hub limit is like 768, and the base area is the same size.

[young stag]

do it like this

free depot bus space

[marble yarrow]

what are you even building in wuling main AIC to reach 512/512

[strong walrus]

question, the pipes have flow rate of 2/s, pumps pump 1/s. Does that mean I can merge 2 pumps into one pipe to splitt that up later on?

[lucid narwhal]

amazing. You got a blueprint for that?

[marble yarrow]

yes. but be careful on how you would divide that pipe beyond

[young stag]

you can prematurely end pipe placing and make zigzags with it

yes it’s just pipe spaghetti

but it works

[young stag]

do you want one

[young stag]

because i just built this myself

[velvet glen]

What do you mean? Just like, normal stuff? The whole point is, why does my base still have like, at least 1/3rd left of it's area left to build and I'm already hitting a limit, why not make the surface area smaller, or the limit bigger, it clearly isn't balanced properly.

[young stag]

you’re probably using a piss ton of bridges

each of those counts as 1 facility

[nova lodge]

you probably spam too much belts and bypass in your base.....

[velvet glen]

I'm not, but even if I was, why would it not balanced to allow for that?

[velvet glen]

I'm not.

[young stag]

because who in their right mind uses any more than like 200 bridges

[nova lodge]

sure is a mystery how you are able to reach 500+ usage....
protocol capacity, yes, but definitely not AIC build limit.

[marble yarrow]

if you build normal stuff then you wouldnt actually get to that limit. i also built normal stuff, build all what the outpost needs. a full production of syringe. 2 battery productions, and some planters. i even do random unnecessary factories. but i never reached the limit since ive unlocked wuling

[velvet glen]

I love how people have all these silly excuses for this obviously extremely low facility limit in wuling, when it should obviously have at least the same limit Hub does.

[brittle mauve]

how the fuck did you cap it out

[young stag]

except for me and my pipe bridges/convergers

[brittle mauve]

show your base

[marble yarrow]

excuses my ass. improve your skill instead

[young stag]

i genuinely don’t know how to make this better

[nova lodge]

because we aren't having issues with it?
we won't be pointing it out unless its really a you problem, for real.

[marble yarrow]

blud has skill issue and blames the game

[nova lodge]

i didn't optimize my base, yet i didn't reach 500.....

[young stag]

is there even a limit

i’ve never reached it

[nova lodge]

there is, but its hella high, especially for your main AIC Base

[young stag]

like i can see it’s 300 in wuling

[nova lodge]

for sub base though, its far lower, around 254 ish.

[young stag]

so this guy managed to fit 512 things into his aic and complains

???

that has to be a skill

[marble yarrow]

i built everything in wuling main aic and just left outpost empty. yet the limit is nowhere near

[velvet glen]

Your bases don't hit the limit, because they are mediocre and 1/2 assed and not optimized, so of course you woudln't You jsut throw down a few units, all spread out and not optimized, and could have probably double the units if you did, and then pretend that someone that actually optimized their base is the problem, this channel is uselessly full of mediocre players, have fun "advising" each other.

[nova lodge]

ahaha.....wow

[marble yarrow]

"Your bases don't hit the limit, because they are mediocre and 1/2 assed and not optimized"

BRO LMAOOOOOOOO

SKILL ISSUE THEN BLAMES GAME

[velvet glen]

More like, too high skill and wanting to optimize more than the game allows for.

[young stag]

just show us your base before spitting sum bullshit

it’s not that hard

[marble yarrow]

your base is not fucking optimized. its easy to realize that

[velvet glen]

Uhhuh, why not show me yours?

[young stag]

i already did

[velvet glen]

So I can laugh at all the unused unoptimized space

[young stag]

look up

[velvet glen]

ARE YOU SERIOUS HAHAHAHA

[nova lodge]

ok, chill, for once, go and adjust the stuff for your base.
i have issue for the protocol limitation around the map, but i tried my best to work around it.

[velvet glen]

THATS YOUR BASE THAT YOU THINK IS GOOD MY GOD

[marble yarrow]

"unoptimized space" ????

[young stag]

it makes shit

and i’m happy

[velvet glen]

HAHAHAHAH GOD WHAT IS THIS CHANNEL

[young stag]

you’re really being a paper tiger rn

[nova lodge]

ok, lets just ignore him now everyone.
clearly he is trolling.

[marble yarrow]

this channel is not for stupid people like you. who claims everyone elses base isnt "optimized" just because we arent hitting the facility limit

[velvet glen]

I'm done wasting my time with absolutely mediocore builders pretending they know wtf they are talking about, peace.

[young stag]

man invents scenarios in his head and gets mad about it

i’m literally hitting my ore limits

[nova lodge]

ok, bye.
mr. wanna use every space on his base and waste electricity.

[young stag]

i can’t make more shit out of thin air

[dapper aspen]

Hey guys are my wulling factories good? i took the xiranite blueprint from sm1 in the server

[dapper aspen]

the rest i made my self

[velvet glen]

Waste electricity? Do you dopes not even know how to build an efficeint power generator that doesn't waste power or batteries?

[young stag]

yeah so there’s a blueprint for it

and an entire tool to calculate it

[dapper aspen]

whats wrong?

also i made a wulling battery maker myself :3, is it good

[nova lodge]

just ignore him, he is one of the many dumb guys that just jump into this channel.

[dapper aspen]

oh

[nova lodge]

anyway concerning about your build, production output is fine, but i think your yanzhen output can go further

[velvet glen]

Get back to me when you can at least figure out how to build a PWN before you start trying to advise or judge other's builds.

[nova lodge]

had you unlocked meta transfer for wulling yet? from V4

[dapper aspen]

i just made it

[marble yarrow]

bro thinks he's got the best factory vs everyone else

[young stag]

there’s a fucking thread for it dude

[dapper aspen]

mats transfer? yeah but limit is 800 per hour

[young stag]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1469163037876555954 it’s been there for fucking months

[velvet glen]

So then why was he talking about wasted electricity? lol

[young stag]

because you’re using 512 facilities in your aic

what the fuck are you doing

[velvet glen]

Making shit? using space? being optimized?

[nova lodge]

ah i see, in that case, you can stick with 90 ferrium usage per min 1st.
you can increase usage to 120 later once you have meta transfer, at a rate of 1500 per hour.

this will allow you to transfer 1500 ferrium to wulling later, per hour.

[dapper aspen]

i did the ferrium mine in wulling btw

thats cool

[young stag]

on sum “optimizing” shit when your entire base can run off 1 battery

[marble yarrow]

we are producting 5.75/min of syringe and 12/min of battery. uses 60/min of xiranite perfectly. but we arent hitting the facility limit.

SO TELL ME WHERE IS THE PART THAT MAKES YOU THINK THIS ISNT OPTIMIZED?

[dapper aspen]

but it requires high lvl in regional development i think

let me see my usage per min

[marble yarrow]

i havent even used half of my wuling main AIC

[dapper aspen]

this is my normal ferrium

[nova lodge]

you will get there soon.
currently, aim for:
60 / min for xiranite
6-12 / min wulling battery production. (depending on gear production rate)

[velvet glen]

I have every manufacturable item, completely full at cap, on both V4 and Wuling. 80k and 48k, on all of them.

[nova lodge]

oh great, thats the max yield for wulling ferrium.

[marble yarrow]

so?

[nova lodge]

haru pretty much surpass the limit with protocol usage....

[marble yarrow]

do we care?

[dapper aspen]

off i am losing xiranite i think

[frail trail]

Three big booms in the chat

[marble yarrow]

so you mean we arent "OPTIMIZED" coz we dont produce and make depot full?

[dapper aspen]

by the 60/min u mean usage or yield?

[jovial breach]

damn...

[velvet glen]

Correct, I'm using my bases to their limit, and pushing them further, so I'm hitting the limit, and still have tons of unused space because the limit for Wuling is 512 instead of the same as Hub, how was that not clear?

[nova lodge]

both yield and usage.
but you can adjust and reduce usage if you want to stockpile.

yield should always be at 60.

[dapper aspen]

i dont put battery into depot, i use it in power generator instantly

[frail trail]

Oh damn what happened to your xiranite prodution

[dapper aspen]

idk

ohh right

[nova lodge]

for your reference, get the yield to 60 per min.

follow current data

[dapper aspen]

cuz i am making the gear mats and the wulling battery

[marble yarrow]

then you have a false sense of "optimized" bases. get the fuck outta here. dont brand everyone not doing the same as you as being "unoptimized"

[dapper aspen]

how?

[frail trail]

Ok but 26 xiranite/m seems like you are bottle necking somewhere

[velvet glen]

Then don't make excuses for a criminally low facilities limit that doesn't allow players to actually optimize their bases if they want to?

[dapper aspen]

my xiranite generator was a blueprint from here in the server

[marble yarrow]

skill issue. end of discussion.

[dapper aspen]

and i got all aic upgrades

[frail trail]

You should probably check again, maybe you placed the wrong plant in the planting unit

[nova lodge]

its not optimized it seems,
1 seed produce 2 plants. so you can add another refinery there.

[dapper aspen]

where

what seed u talking abt

[frail trail]

Jazhen/jincao

[dapper aspen]

yazhen u mean?

[velvet glen]

First you admit your base isn't producing as much stuff, and you're satisfied with a bare minimum build, then pretend that someone that wants to push theirs more has skill issue, Laughable.

[frail trail]

Ye

[vestal tiger]

How more originum from wuling

[dapper aspen]

wait yazhen doesnt use xiranite tho

[vestal tiger]

Is it 360 or 540

[vestal tiger]

No ferrium

[dapper aspen]

ohh

[young stag]

360 for wuling and 560 for v4

[dapper aspen]

oh right i need ferrium

[frail trail]

Yazhen (carbon) are used to make xiranite

[vestal tiger]

Oh hell

How many /min bats should I be able to make

12 right

[young stag]

yea

[dapper aspen]

oh, well i dont refine yazhen to make carbon

[vestal tiger]

I just redesignrd my stuff and I forgot

[nova lodge]

this area

[dapper aspen]

i use sandleaf and another plant

[nova lodge]

yazhen and jinciao both provides 2 plants per seed.

[dapper aspen]

OH RIGHT

i def see it

i didnt make it tho

[nova lodge]

yep, so your current production is effectively halved lul

[dapper aspen]

yeah i can see there is a place for a refiner

[frail trail]

Why is one of the dense carbon going into a stash?

[nova lodge]

sometimes its better to make the base yourself and understand how its done.

[dapper aspen]

i did the same xiranite factory twice btw

[dapper aspen]

yeah i know

but i was low on carbon for some reason

[nova lodge]

yep, so yours are producing at about 30 ish per min lul

[dapper aspen]

i didnt relize i needed to double the carbon maker

[frigid citrus]

what button i accidentally tap on here??

[dapper aspen]

now i realized

[lone pebble]

wana see 60 min production eassy to understand ?

[nova lodge]

for your reference.

[young stag]

you have a ferrium ore deficit somewhere

get yo mines up

[dapper aspen]

i dont understand, lemme search for the part i need to fix lol

[frail trail]

i don't think this is correct

[dapper aspen]

i did it myself

cuz what if i need carbon later?

OHH RIGHT

[nova lodge]

1 wulling plants produce 2 carbon blocks as well, instead of V4 plants being 1.

[dapper aspen]

i need to make a specific one to make carbon

[dapper aspen]

ohhh,, that is smarter, so i need an auto yazhen planter

[jovial breach]

Jincao also works

[marble yarrow]

i make it looooong

[lone pebble]

easy to see

[nova lodge]

yep, and as shown above....
remove that protocol storage at the side.
that is eating into your carbon production meant for xiranite lul

[frigid citrus]

hmm pretty sure i already dig all of em...except side quest with wulgard one

ohh welp ig ill do that guy mission then

[dapper aspen]

yeah i realized, u guys made me realize i need to make a seperate factory if i wanna store stuff, cuz then it will slow the process of my first priority (the other thing) sry if u dont understand

i will fix my factory is u guys told me

i will be back

and show u

[nova lodge]

just remember to aim for max output for the important stuff 1st.

[rancid talon]

Oh I was wondering how many bombs is good to carry and what is good AIC setup for those who got to Science Park?

[young stag]

it’s much more compact than a v4 planting unit

you only need 2 instead of 3

[cyan bronze]

wow

that's compact

[nova lodge]

it is, reducing 1 planter usage helps a lot.

you can even do alternate planting if you wannt produce enough plants for yanzhen / jinciao reactor.

after all, its 1 seed = 2 plants.

[real crescent]

is there a reason to run a reactor with both?

[lone pebble]

TRUE , and he can even get the carbon to grinding unit ! if he dosent want them separeted !

[real crescent]

given that you dont have enough ferrium for bottles for even one line anyways

[nova lodge]

save on power and space.
maybe not at the moment, but very important in the future.

[dapper aspen]

ughh i have small space, do i buy first expansion?? i will use it in the future and i can sell my syringe now to gain currency?

[dense wyvern]

Don't do alternating plants. It's cool to look at but it clogs offline.

[lone pebble]

u can try spliting the line ! and reduce the out from 6 to 4/5 min

[dense wyvern]

[marble yarrow]

lmao mine doesnt

[lone pebble]

u can

[dense wyvern]

Mine did.

[cyan bronze]

yet

[young stag]

skill issue smh

[nova lodge]

1st, buy stock exchange, need to get the credits up fast.
then depot
then only then expansions. (but you can get some expansion along the way as well).

[strong walrus]

whats the best zipline route to wuling city from the depot nod?

[marble yarrow]

i used it for 2 days until they made my depot full

[jovial breach]

[cyan bronze]

also monitoring station gives a fuckton

and depot is gonna pay itself too

big money

[dense wyvern]

It worked online, but after I got off - bam 1 bottle missing, clog.

[nova lodge]

^ yep, that's another one to consider, but given you unlock it at the last point in the story so.....

[marble yarrow]

continuity issue lmao

[cyan bronze]

Dolly the beast lord truly have fascinating powers

[nova lodge]

dolly scares OG AK players :v

fluffy hell

[lone pebble]

NO CLOGING ! no transfer

[dense wyvern]

I have too much stuff in Wuling now... I'm manually transferring extra batteries to store in V5.

[cyan bronze]

Satan's strongest soldier

[lone pebble]

or u can use them instead of the Wbat 🙂

[young stag]

i did this, idk if anyone has a better layout

[frail trail]

unlock depot and spend 30 minutes everyday clicking refresh for 3 73.1k wuling bill orders

[marble yarrow]

you're effectively bottlenecked by your reduced ferrium parts usage. you arent doing the parts:bottle ratio in the filling unit

[frail trail]

peak gameplay imo

[marble yarrow]

so not efficient/optimized

[nova lodge]

its still free 15-70 creds at least :3
more if you can 'steal' the other extra job listing.

[dense wyvern]

Go hit some mobs and you get more than that.

[frail trail]

OH SHIT I FORGOT TO DUMP MY 1K CREDITS

[lone pebble]

yap , but ussing

[jovial breach]

this is too basic

[young stag]

yeah ik i just thought of a better one

i’m gonna make it rq

[nova lodge]

nuuu....don't drag someone else to break the 4th wall to place your ziplines.

[jovial breach]

the real endgame is placing ziplines on mountains for easy delivery

[marble yarrow]

what are u even using the regional transfer for

[lone pebble]

i dont use it 🙂

[dense wyvern]

real end game is running around and manually farming wuling credits

[nova lodge]

please use it, free loot with meta transfer.

[marble yarrow]

yeah i used this layout also. since im minimizing zipline usage

[dapper aspen]

Guys i really um dumb

[strong walrus]

hmm, think I'll try something like this

[frail trail]

thank god someone said something about credits

[lone pebble]

there a bit to many

[marble yarrow]

if you dont mind using more zipline and power, yes you can do it

[dapper aspen]

i tried fixing my factory,, then did the wrong thing, and deleted my 2nd xiranite maker, this time i will make it myself

[nova lodge]

you can just copy paste.

[dapper aspen]

yeah ik

i will do it for now

and then plan my own xiranite factory

[frail trail]

should probably fix my zipline

[nova lodge]

[strong walrus]

thats perfect, thanks

[lone pebble]

use the 110 ! i saw a lot using the 80 only !

[marble yarrow]

lmaoo imagine not maximizing 110m

[nova lodge]

i am still questioning the need to use 80.....

[jovial breach]

do side quests pls

[frail trail]

nah, factory is more important

[jovial breach]

especially that pond quest

drain 40k water

[nova lodge]

or be like someone strange....
complete the game with nothing but AIC alone.

[dapper aspen]

anyways so yuzu i forgot what i wanted to fix

[lone pebble]

who needs ? add me :))

[dapper aspen]

what did we want to fix in my factory?

and what do i fix first

[jovial breach]

below 5k is still normal