team-build

[upbeat lava]

guys how should i use this team like team setup i mainly wanna use yvonne

[worthy estuary]

Everything went smoothly till i start framing at 5fps

Only need 1 more cycle

[worn flax]

ez

[granite shuttle]

What skills should I upgrade for Arclight and Perlica? In Zhuang team

[worn flax]

when you see electric that's it

[granite shuttle]

Are you sure?
It means I should M3 all Perlica's skills and Arclight bs, cs, ultimate

[rare kettle]

Arclight to lvl9 cs
Others even for perlica can stay lvl1 if u want

[granite shuttle]

What does they mean by when I see "electric"?

[rare kettle]

elec dmg ig

[granite shuttle]

Reactions have word electric too?

[rare kettle]

Electrification, yes

He meant skills that do elec dmg i suppose

[granite shuttle]

[junior pier]

Ultimate Gain Eweuh

[rare kettle]

If u want to minmax
U can do m1 arclight ult and cs
Perlica m3 cs and ult
But not needed

[granite shuttle]

I might needed it when cc comes
Thank you very much!

[uneven oar]

xaihi is just M3 ult right ?

[flat panther]

Thank u mister beast

[rare kettle]

I mean, bs fir higher amp works if u want to minmax

[uneven oar]

got nothing to build and just throwing sanity away at this point so aight

[granite kelp]

I just started, can someone tell me a good team set up for last rite ?

[uneven oar]

poverty or premium team ?

[pearl surge]

wth with poverty team

why you suddenly attack us without justification

[supple pollen]

Assuming you just started and hence missed previous limited
Last Rite + Xaihi + Flex + Flex
Flex slots being the likes of Perlica, Akekuri, Alesh, Snowshine, Estella, Fluorite and Ardelia
Of those something like Perlica Ardelia is going to be the best at 'endgame' but the rest of the slots may make story feel better progressing.

Gilberta and Tangtang and ideal chases for 'premium' upgrades

[upbeat lava]

guys plz help

[alpine depot]

Huh

I wonder if it's possible to fail to time on the new Tidal Grief umbral monument stage

That would be a serious challenge I suspect

[plucky marsh]

Yes because some players dont have enough dps and dodging skills, so they have to stall to win, or literally just solo ops player

[winged mesa]

if tidal grief is 4-3, far as i know the spawn isnt based on time

so technically you can just keep using BA to hit the blue slimes after purple slimes got in

[plucky marsh]

Yes, they spawn in waves not timer based

[light cosmos]

Gilberta is a goat

https://tenor.com/view/goat-animal-feeding-gif-17002676

[winged mesa]

shes not but ok

[plucky marsh]

Perlica lv80 and lv9 ult with lv80 wanderer and somehow only 2k5 attack can do a whole 13k damage on her ult, so it’s not that bad to “barely” invest in her damage

[light cosmos]

Vulpine comes from the Latin vulpine

[winged mesa]

no shit sherlock

[plucky marsh]

I read that as Gil is THE goat

[glass ruin]

ive seen wave 2 with the purples spawn while the wave 1 blues are still alive if u take long enough

[winged mesa]

so.. one can get stuck in a hole

[winged mesa]

i cba to test so ill take you word for word

[glass ruin]

like here 3/4 of 1st wave defeated but next wave spawns

[wet moat]

not killgate?

[winged mesa]

well pparently not

[wet moat]

[hushed tiger]

im obviously very new, but whats a decent team to work with for the time being? I've been doing Da Pan so far but I just wanted to see if theres other units worth investing for the time being.

[wet moat]

so its just gracing period

[wet moat]

endmin chen lifeng ake

[hushed tiger]

better than da pan? I find its hard to get his crush off reliably lol

[junior pier]

try gacha some more, who knows u might get fangyi

[gentle topaz]

Already did

[humble drift]

Depends on if u have grand vision

Also assuming ur da pan is p0?

[junior pier]

due to how fangyi team build she kinda good for beginner where arclight could hold thermite and antal could held deto which both came from beginner boxes

[humble drift]

Endmin would be better where you are now if so

[wet moat]

p2 dapan

[hushed tiger]

p2

[humble drift]

Oh bruh I can’t read

If u have sundering steel on Chen and no grand vision I would run da pan

Otherwise endmin

[hushed tiger]

I have sundering steel yeah

[humble drift]

If u wanna pay the dollar for grand vision in shop endmin is way better early

But yeah it’s not that big of a difference

Just run da pan if u like him more

[hushed tiger]

does pity carry forward between banners? I dont wanna pull unless I acan guarentee and if i know its going to be a good pull

I dont like how long it takes to stack da pans crush, at least for me. But then again i could be doing something entirely wrong lmao

[uneven oar]

50/50 pity yes
120/240 guarantee no

[hushed tiger]

Do I have decent teammates for Fangyi, or is it something would need to work towards?

[uneven oar]

zfy is pretty f2p friendly

[hushed tiger]

If I did get her, what would be my team?

[teal dew]

Yea the only thing sucks is her weapon
(In case u get her early but not having much to get her weapon)

[teal dew]

Zfy per arclight and antal

[uneven oar]

it's whale o'clock

[hushed tiger]

yeah i did a big dumb by pulling on the wrong weapon banner not understanding how it all works so wasted like 40 pulls....

[uneven oar]

my condolences

[wet moat]

@uneven oar oi, do ur clue exchange

[junior pier]

what is clue exchange, we just dailies

[glass ruin]

u can cope with bp weapon on zhuang

[uneven oar]

ok ok wait

[wet moat]

late kek already used 5 visit

[uneven oar]

nvm

[glass ruin]

hidlo gimme a 1 clue

[uneven oar]

that would be $20 please

[glass ruin]

ill give u 2 7s thats 10 each

[winged mesa]

ill give you 1 for 19$

[uneven oar]

[glass ruin]

unable to clue exchange for 2 days now ohh the agony

[sacred mica]

am bored again

[glass ruin]

BLESS U HIDO

i will send u any clue u need

[winged mesa]

what if hildo asks for a gf

[glass ruin]

uhm would a 2d one work

[uneven oar]

i need one gajillion oroberryls

i hoard clues i have at least 2 of each clues and i haven't exchanged for like 4 days now lmao

[hushed tiger]

well I pulled her... is it rare to get 2 6 stars lol

[glass ruin]

but why

[uneven oar]

it's rare yes but ardelia

[uneven oar]

cause i dont need credits yet

[glass ruin]

its a free 10 pull on weapon banner buh

[uneven oar]

[keen spear]

if its p1 its good

[glass ruin]

thtas how u work towards a gajillion oros

25 oro big difference yup

[hushed tiger]

okay new roster, whats my best team?

[granite shuttle]

Tomorrow is the stock reset
What should I artifice here?

[glass ruin]

wait do u get bp why do u have more origeo rock

[uneven oar]

i got bp and monthly

[glass ruin]

ah

[uneven oar]

i have 395 pisstones

[sacred mica]

Zfy perlica arc antal if lightning looks good there if u wanna pivot

[sacred mica]

Team

[wet moat]

match 6k

[sacred mica]

Think u can get 7k if slab

[wet moat]

not the slab

[granite shuttle]

Yvonne, Xaihi, TT, Gilberta

[sacred mica]

Hm idk what the uge req for tt on yv team is

How fast does yv typically get ult anw

Anw if u want max dmg tt, bonekrusha + mi glove

If u want sum uge, go qb + mi glove.

If u need more uge than that, good luck.

[hushed tiger]

mono lightning? Do I not want some kind of reaction? Sorry still totally new to this haha

[alpine depot]

With qingbo set, tt should be able to use zero uge

[sacred mica]

Not rly, u can make ur own reaction in that team

[alpine depot]

Old math was uge armor if not p1, p1 is zero uge

[sacred mica]

The chest is uge

[alpine depot]

You can use the set without chest

[sacred mica]

U r tripping balls if u swap chest and keep glove

It's a stupid dmg loss

[alpine depot]

You asked about uge, that's the answer lol

[sacred mica]

Oh ok mb, but qb for tt must use chest cos dropping chets for sth else is just stupid

[granite shuttle]

Let's say I already triggered TT, Gilberta, Xaihi ultimates twice but Yvonne is still at 90%-ish ult

[sacred mica]

U want mi glove for most dmg as subdps tt

[sacred mica]

Then u prolly don't need much uge. Either that or u might've fked ur rot

I don't think yv ult would take that long if stacked properly

[granite shuttle]

I just followed a rotation from yt

[sacred mica]

[granite shuttle]

But the problem is not all stage have ready ult

[wispy carbon]

What teams should i be using ?
this is my current team

[sacred mica]

Wth, no xaihi

[alpine depot]

How so? It's a 0.1% difference is it not? Potentially even a gain

[sacred mica]

U r trading uge for how many % dmg bonus?

[alpine depot]

14.9% cryo

[sacred mica]

16% uge also makes her rot way faster

[wispy carbon]

i dont know much about teams it looked like yvonne and tang tang work well toget her so i paired them. ardelia for heals

[alpine depot]

MI security is 15% more dmg

[sacred mica]

Calc chest+glove dmg bonus vs mi glove

[granite shuttle]

Mi glove? That's new, no one recommended me that before
Anyways, thank you very much!

[alpine depot]

Dmg bonus is all additive no?

[sacred mica]

Whichever chest u choose to use in that cas

[sacred mica]

Indeed. What chest did u have in mind?

[sacred mica]

It's the best glove for tt if u can run it dmgwise

[alpine depot]

The old dps option, bonecrusher heavy t2

[wispy carbon]

so uh

what should be my team?

i still have a standard 5 star selector that i can use

[alpine depot]

Have you used all or nearly all f2p standard pull 6* pities?

[wispy carbon]

all?

uh wdym?

im talking about this

[alpine depot]

The pulls you get from various ingame rewards

[wispy carbon]

used them

[hushed tiger]

should I ask here about builds, or is that better in the help chat?

[alpine depot]

Yes, you should wait until after getting all 6* pities from standard pulls before using the selector

[wispy carbon]

i just want to know what team i should use

[light cosmos]

Here is good

[alpine depot]

That way, you can use it to fill in operators that you haven't gotten

[wispy carbon]

i have operators i just dont know which ones work well with each other

[sacred mica]

14.9 cryo% + 29.9 all skill%

Vs

16% uge + 44.9 bs%

@alpine depot

U know the spread of tt's dmg right since u watch maygi

[alpine depot]

With the ability to use the selector on pog, you can use any team you have dps for

[wispy carbon]

can u see the image? arent all of them dps?

tang tang rossi yvonne and zhuan

[acoustic edge]

rossi and zhuang are both top tier dps

[celest ibex]

Hai I'm at a point where i don't know who to build properly and i thought id ask everyone in here what they think i should put my focus on :3

[light cosmos]

Lifeng is the best dps

[alpine depot]

You have the operators to use any of their teams, which you use is up to you

[acoustic edge]

pick one you like and build a team around them

[wispy carbon]

yea thats the thing i dont know what their teams are

[light cosmos]

Why ardelia?

[wispy carbon]

like what team should i use rossi and zhuang on?

[hushed tiger]

okay so for fangyi, perlica, arc, and antal which is the best weapons from what I currently have? and is there a best weapon for the lvl 45 6* weapon selector?

[alpine depot]

For bs, they are essentially the same with only a 0.1% diff. In practice, even subdps tt will have slightly more dmg from the non-uge option

[celest ibex]

tbh i think the ult with the sheep is cute 😄

[light cosmos]

Fair enough

[alpine depot]

See pins then

[light cosmos]

Oh gawd um you have like no weaps this will be tuff for me I better pass the task to someone else

[hushed tiger]

haha yeaaaah

[light cosmos]

Why don’t you raise potentials?

[hushed tiger]

havent needed to use this weapon type yet lol

[alpine depot]

Wild wanderer on perlica, detonation unity on antal, thermite cutter on arclight are the best. Thermite cutter is from one of the selectors. Fangyi wants sig or bp wep, with bp wep being significantly worse and other weps even worse

[light cosmos]

Thermite is not the best but to each their own

Well I guess it depends on the build

[hushed tiger]

I do have bp so I can get that when i complete

whats best for now?

[light cosmos]

How do you play arc she is my specialty

[alpine depot]

Waiting for bp wep? There's enough tasks out to simply get that if you aren't going for sig

Thermite is the bis for fangyi team

[celest ibex]

i did think about changing ardelia with da pan and have a full physical team

[hushed tiger]

no pulls for sig. I messed up 😭 Also i dont have thermite, i dont think

[cunning aspen]

is there a list of M3's that are useful? should I M3 xaihi's S2?

[alpine depot]

Thermite is from one of the selectors

[wispy carbon]

I checked.. ther are no teams for rossi?

[valid shadow]

any team suggestions only using 5 star character

[alpine depot]

I forget which one exactly

[jagged raven]

What is even s2

[celest ibex]

and as a side project i have a electro team with arclight zhuang antal and perlica

[jagged raven]

Anyway, for xaihi m3 her ultimate

[alpine depot]

This covers her 1.1 arts team
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTSMA3wQOPI

[light cosmos]

Rossi can go in basically any team

[jagged raven]

For gilb m1 her ult

[sacred mica]

It's not more dmg when u factor in the uge.

In the first place u would never run qb if u want the most dmg. Cos bk will always yield more dmg for obvious reason.

All am saying is that if u drop uge chest on qb for tt for any other chest, it's literally dumb.

[visual agate]

Perlica, arclight, antal and snowshine / ardelia (since she is a free 6*)

[alpine depot]

If your rot works without the uge, you don't benefit from it. Maybe yvonne has a new rot that uses that uge, but based on the old p1 tt rots that has the same cs cd as p0 qb, that seems unlikely to matter

[sacred mica]

If ur rot works without uge, u can run bk cos it obviously means bk would work too.

Qb is approx -10 to 12% uge req for tt in any rot

[wet moat]

almost 2 min on lr, damn im become rusty

[alpine depot]

The lower cs cd matters for some rots, even if uge isn't needed

[sacred mica]

Like what rot?

Cos u can always adjust that by delaying sum bs/cs if u rly need her cs

Which doesn't happen that often to justify qb unless u want the uge

[alpine depot]

You can, but the shorter cs cd means a shorter rot and thus more dps

[sacred mica]

That's a fallacy when u sac ur tt dmg to do that

[alpine depot]

For the tt main dps sure, but for sub dps rots like lr the tt dmg loss is worth it

[sacred mica]

No, am talking abt subdps tt

[sacred mica]

The hell? Wym the dmg loss is worth?

That's trippy as hell

Tt alone holds like 30% of the dmg in lr tt iirc

[wet moat]

shit i really need uge chest on my lr

[sacred mica]

U wanna drop it to like 25% just for 1 extra cs that barely matter?

Besides, if u calc the uge in a rot, uge 16% drops tt ult req from like 740 sp to only abt 580 or 590 per ult

At 4 cs btw

If u do 3 cs, u'd need a whole lot more sp into bs for her to just ult once

[winged mesa]

rotation

[sacred mica]

Rotation

[alpine depot]

This is the basis for that. Not as calced as I would like, but to my knowledge this is the best we have rn

[wispy carbon]

Cry_Jett i wanna use rossi but i dont have gilb

[sacred mica]

It's heavily bottlenecked by tt cs only for ult start am p sure

[wispy carbon]

can i fit rossi or zhuang on this team? or should i switch out some other stuff?

[alpine depot]

She didn't specify but maygi rots are all no ult starts iirc

[uneven oar]

no you can't

[wispy carbon]

AA_Kanna_Sad

[sacred mica]

I know that

But it's complicated since it's not calced

I know what she mean by tt cs being bottleneck in such rot, but it's not sth u can't delay either

[alpine depot]

Yeah, it's the best we have rn but not a full calc

Afaik there's no automatic dmg calc tool rn which really hampers numbers

[sacred mica]

It's too iffy even if i trust maygi

Cos i made plenty of rots alr to know that said bottleneck is almost nonexistent

U can do ult timestop to bypass some of those bottlenecks

U can tailor ur team to ult faster too to fix it

The point of tt needing to do more cs is kinda questionable too after making alot of rots cos the most important thing is that u have 2 cs b4 ult dive or bs

Qb is definitely more comfy than bk in a rot, but from what i tested, there is no reason to run qb unless u need the chest uge with the set bonus

It's basically changing ur rot from tt 3 cs/rot to 4 cs/rot

[alpine depot]

Unless you have numbers plus a rot to go with them, we don't have enough data to come to a conclusion ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sacred mica]

We need to remember that the argument is not so much that qb sucks.

It's that qb glove suck when compared to mi glove. And for that reason, keeping uge qb chest > keeping qb glove

[sacred mica]

I can make one if u rly need it but i don't have a base for any rot where qb glove would win against mi glove. There's just no way in hell that work.

[alpine depot]

The question is whether chest uge beats ba/cs/ult dmg, since bs dmg is the same

[sacred mica]

Cos i tested it b4 and i lost like 5% or sth

[sacred mica]

The question is in a rot, which yield more dmg, no?

[alpine depot]

Sure qb glove is worse than mi, but there's no reason to use qb glove unless you want to swap to dps armor

[sacred mica]

There's no good agi str dps armor

For tt

That's the issue.

That's my whole point

[supple pollen]

qb gloves can perform better than mi gloves, conditionally

[sacred mica]

Bk armor is cryo dmg% which buff everything but is numerically lower than just straight bs%

[alpine depot]

Sure, but since qb gloves are still dps gloves you don't need super good dps armor to overcome the dmg diff

[sacred mica]

If u mdps tt, sure

[supple pollen]

more often than not they're behind but they're also not so far behind that it matters

[alpine depot]

It's not like qb gloves are treatment or something

[sacred mica]

It's still bad when u consider that if u don't need said uge, u can just bk to bump up more of ur dmg

[hallow geode]

hi guys ı'm building estella can you share your builds

[sacred mica]

It's like bk is designed for pure dmg while qb was more for uge req on a rot

[supple pollen]

qb mimics the gains from p1

while also having a 'better' set bonus

atk from bk is nice and im sure we'll see a future set that has the best of both sets

[sacred mica]

I guess

[sacred mica]

Better is kinda... Idk tbh. Cos u kinda always have bk at max stack if u do rot properly in lr tt

At least during burst time which mattered

If it's yvone then, i can agree cos u prolly use more tt bs there

[supple pollen]

there's multiple rots, multiple teams

i hate to say things are better or worse, hence the ' '

because it's so conditional

[sacred mica]

There r, but for lr tt i have yet to see a rot that cucks bk that badly to make qb set bonus superior cos both just have the same uptime at the worst scenario

[supple pollen]

there's a decent few

[sacred mica]

Yeah, i mean the game depends on how well u execute the rot anw

[sacred mica]

0 ult?

Or ult start?

[alpine depot]

Do we have numbers on how good p1 fangyi is?

[supple pollen]

both cases

[alpine depot]

I lucked out getting zfy in 11 pulls so I'm considering p1

[supple pollen]

too conditional

5-15% prob higher variance

[sacred mica]

Hmm ok i kinda wanna see those rot that cucks bk so badly

[alpine depot]

What are the numbers for each condition?

[sacred mica]

Lol

[supple pollen]

i do not have the effort nor care to list out that exhaustive list

nor do i have specific numbers for each and every case

id be here for hours

[sacred mica]

I feel like atp any discussion related to gears n numbers r just always inconclusive

[supple pollen]

yes

[sacred mica]

How r we supposed to make recommendations when everything is always inconclusive

[uneven oar]

numbers seems like a tc stuff not tb

[sacred mica]

It's getting tiring atp

[supple pollen]

you either suck it up and recommend off vibes like pinned stuff does

[sacred mica]

Well when u r discussing a chara build... Technically it's tb? Lol

[supple pollen]

or ask for more context from whoever is asking

[sacred mica]

Which becomes problematic when there r many recommendations that disagree w each other

Ffs

[supple pollen]

welcome to endfield

[sacred mica]

Guess this is the problem tc had too

[alpine depot]

Without accurate dmg calculation tools, there are simply too few people willing to do the math for numbers to be prolific

[supple pollen]

i mean excel is as accurate as it has ever been

[sacred mica]

Even if we have accurate dmg calc l8r on, i don't think it'll change

[sacred mica]

Yeah and ppl still doubt it

[supple pollen]

there's too many cases

[sacred mica]

Too many variables

[supple pollen]

is the issue, too much nuance

[alpine depot]

There are too many conditions and variable, using excel to obtain an accurate result remains a highly manual process

[supple pollen]

ive personally looked into like 80 rossi rots

[alpine depot]

Maygi is the only en math person I'm aware of

Cn probably has more people though

[supple pollen]

and ive done like 1% of what exists and that existing stuff is a fraction of the total

guoba, lin, maygi for cc. people like lp for non cc
bunch of kr/jp/cn stuff, bunch of smaller groups

[sacred mica]

Yeah

[wispy carbon]

if i dont have gilb do i make a team of rossi or just shove her in a random team?

[supple pollen]

if you want to make a rossi hc team you can, or you can wheelchair her

[wild solar]

Just make team without.

[pearl surge]

just pull for gilb on 14

[wispy carbon]

explaing like im stupid coz i am

[alpine depot]

Non gil is antal right?

Or is antal always on the team

[supple pollen]

Rossi has too many teams to list exhaustively
You have the option to make a team built around her or to put her in a team that carries her but still uses her

[alpine depot]

Nope, the no gil team is wulfgard

Antal is always on the team

[wispy carbon]

so im thinking either
yvone tangtang xaihi rossi
or
zhuang perlica awyena rossi?

[winged mesa]

antal is not always on the team

neither is the no gil team is wulfgard, theres a bunch of options you can do

[wild solar]

[wispy carbon]

@supple pollen does either of them work

[supple pollen]

you'd want to consider dropping avywenna from the second but otherwise both work conceptually
ymmv for actual gameplay since they can take effort to route around

[winged mesa]

not entirely sure how well yvonne pairs with rossi but the zhuang one can definitely work, might want to slop a sp regenerator/buffer instead of avywenna however

[wispy carbon]

who do i switch awyena with?

i have all 5 stars at max cons

[alpine depot]

Arclight

[wispy carbon]

and have a 6 star standard slector

[supple pollen]

any vanguard that isnt pogranichnik works

[alpine depot]

Zfy prefers arc due to her ult

[supple pollen]

most people will opt for arclight as the most splashable but in some cases the others can be better

[wispy carbon]

dont use the abbreviations- im stupid i dont get those

[alpine depot]

Though ake is good for short ult rots

[supple pollen]

the gap does not make that much of a difference

[wispy carbon]

soooooo zhuand perlica arclight rossi works?

[supple pollen]

it is sufficient to clear all content

just test it out a bit before putting any serious investment into it

[wispy carbon]

ye no im looking for clearning endgame or anything with this team, i just want it to kinda work, i just wanna use chrs that i like and make it kinda work

[alpine depot]

Can zfy solo the new um?

Idk if she has enough dmg by herself

[wild solar]

Work is just whatever.

Kind of not even a bar.

[wispy carbon]

nice name lol

[alpine depot]

If she can, then she's the only operator who can solo all content rn

Due to the other um being only soloable by zfy

[wispy carbon]

last question

tangtang +yvonne, what other chrs do i use with them?

this one i want as my main team so i want to clear stuff

[wet moat]

xaihi + ange/perlica/alesh

[wispy carbon]

i have ange perlica and alesh so which one

[alpine depot]

That's a very low bar, but xaihi and perlica/gilberta iirc

[wispy carbon]

whats a high bar?

[alpine depot]

None really exist, you'd have to make up something or look for mathamatically higher dps

[wispy carbon]

well im mostly in the game for the factories so

[alpine depot]

Same lol, but factory is only ~2 hrs of content per patch rn

[wispy carbon]

just got lucky with my pulls and got last 4 limited bannes so kinda wanted to use em

[wispy carbon]

you can spend more time making it look ✨ pretty ✨ and efficient

[alpine depot]

Eh, pretty usually isn't worth the effort due to facility limits

[royal coyote]

Whats a good team build for the electric dragon chick in the head hunt

[alpine depot]

I've already maxed adaptability and efficiency

[alpine depot]

See pins

[knotty mason]

which one I should use?

Rossi sig weapon btw

[fiery tangle]

essence that matches all 3 stats

preferably not purples

Agility
Critical Rate
Fracture

not sure what that translates to ur language

[knotty mason]

those are the one that it refers. Dun worry, they match perfectly

[acoustic edge]

You can use whatever has the highest numbers for now

[knotty mason]

but only that purple one matches the most, 2

[acoustic edge]

Eventually you'll want to farm a 3/3 essence and level it to max

[fiery tangle]

we start farming at alluviums now for a better piece

[wet moat]

kek, co lr still more comfy to me

[knotty mason]

OK. I will just use it until I get a better one

[wet moat]

@sacred mica oi u remember the uge req for 1 rot 1 ulti?

[light cosmos]

No way I just pulled another fangyi

[sacred mica]

Huh? What team?

[wet moat]

lr tt

[sacred mica]

Full team?

And which gearset

For lr

[wet moat]

my lr still on yinlung

its mostly for xaihi

[sacred mica]

Sm lr is abt 2 bs + 2 cs + 7 or 8 stack

Yinlung is 3 bs + 2 cs + 8 stack iirc

Whose uge req?

[wet moat]

xaihi

[sacred mica]

U can prolly make do w redeemer chest+xira glove. 1 cs + 640 sp req for that

[wet moat]

[sacred mica]

Otherwise add in sum tube to make the sp req lower

[wet moat]

add more backlog then

[sacred mica]

U don't have it? Demn

[wet moat]

havent artif uge on redeemer chest

[sacred mica]

Oo

Lr typically should get ult by the time u spend 580 sp+ tho

[wet moat]

yeah my lr can still go with cryo stack route

[sacred mica]

U can just add 1 uge tube if u prefer that, should bring it down to abt 560 + cs or 540 + cs

If lr sm, u need only abt 480 sp or sth to get her ult

Approx

[light cosmos]

P3 fangyi as arclight support lets gooooo

[acoustic edge]

[sacred mica]

[glass ruin]

has any phys main tried endmin pog lifeng alesh

[light cosmos]

Not recently

But I’m also new

[winged mesa]

whats alesh doing 😭

[light cosmos]

Soo I’d recommnd fluorite

[glass ruin]

doing his best um

rare fish + frontier + (thermite if i had it)

i had fun trying out gil for laev over arde now im thinking to try alesh over chen for phys

[winged mesa]

wheres that rare fish coming from

[glass ruin]

consuming endmin crystals

[wild solar]

So shatter but worse?

[glass ruin]

hm its a little awkward the only source to stack vuln is lifeng bs + ult

[winged mesa]

so shatter but the crush has no vulnerability

[glass ruin]

i dont know if its worth building alesh and trying it only to feels super bad in the end....

boo why does his rare fin chance not increase with skill lvls

[wild solar]

I mean, I predict the outcome will be works but feels like shovelling shit into your own mouth but do whatever makes you happy.

[glass ruin]

i guess ill build perlica instead im itching to just build someone cos i have nothing to do

buh why do all of perlica skill lvls do nothing except more dmg, except for cs reducing cd but only at m3

[winged mesa]

her kit is simple as fuck what do u expect

[glass ruin]

ig shes cheap for a support cool

what da heck i entered a protocol space held 1 for laev ult and endfield crashed

[light cosmos]

Chen bs and cs both give vuln stacks, lifeng bs gives phys susceptibility if you have no stacks and if you final strike an enemy with that you get a link from him

[glass ruin]

i meant if i replaced chen with alesh

[light cosmos]

Oh mb

[orchid solstice]

What gear do I give to Fangyi and her team if I don’t have any Hetonite components?

[light cosmos]

Depends on the rot

[light cosmos]

I’d have to read Alesh skills and stuff brb

[orchid solstice]

Elaborate

Or do i need to throw out my Jade Xiranite Gourd setup for something else?

[long wave]

Nice welcome back gift ig, ill take it

[light cosmos]

Noice

[long wave]

After that i tried her sig banner and it came home in one 10 pulls

[light cosmos]

I don’t know much about fangyi ask clown or a fangyi main sorry bro

[long wave]

[light cosmos]

Nice I just p3 luck pulled her

[long wave]

Now what's left is to do msq and upgrade my aic...

[light cosmos]

And then got lifengs sig

[long wave]

Wow p3

[light cosmos]

Yeah I don’t even use her tho

Useless ass arclight supporter

[rare kettle]

Lowkey racist sounding

What would ur cat think

[light cosmos]

My cats very traditional iykwim

[rare kettle]

[light cosmos]

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever said

[long wave]

[light cosmos]

Whoops

[dapper crypt]

What Eyja skill that I need to M3 other than her Ultimate ?

[pearl surge]

are you okay

isn't that ... expensive

[light cosmos]

Eh only 2k heto comps……

And 500k bills

Yeah it hurt my soul

[pearl surge]

lol, a sacrifice, there is a lot of way to replace it

and you goes to the most expensive ones

[light cosmos]

I was trying to make two to artifice and didn’t see the zero…

I used them all and an additional two mill bills

[pearl surge]

you just need to wait for operator who use that 20 '3')

hey, alesh, ake, arclight, each use 1 '3')

[light cosmos]

But hey my arclight Now has 846 int so…. Man that shit still wasn’t worth it

[supple pollen]

no need to m3 ult to begin with, only increases it's damage
stagger increase caps at m1

combo has very edge case interactions with cdr at m3 but not needed for 99.99% of people

bskill is the main one to chase to m3 as it increases the susceptibility

all of ardelia healing is tied to her talent, so no investment into skills increases healing, should that have not been obvious from the above comment

[dapper crypt]

Great, mess up at the start, my favorite thing to experience

[light cosmos]

Bro spammed that question everywhere

Even had the same response twice smh

[dapper crypt]

B skill is the Combo one or the Activated skill one ?

[supple pollen]

battle skill, manually activated one

[light cosmos]

Combo is triggered battle skills are activated

[dapper crypt]

This one right ?

[junior pier]

what

why

[pearl surge]

m3 ult for some reason hurt my soul

[light cosmos]

Oh I’m just rage baiting don’t mind me

[dapper crypt]

I mess up the start like I said so it is what it is

[junior pier]

trust mr dolly

[supple pollen]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/
has skill values per rank

for future reference

you can see what values increase and where they increase

[dapper crypt]

Nah, last time I trust Dolly bro Wipe out my Operator with all the sheeps

[junior pier]

[cold marlin]

What is Estella support build for yvvone ,tang tang and xiahi team?

[undone coral]

estella, with yvonne's team, is a bold choice

if you really love her, try eternal xiranite for buffs, or, situationally, swordmancer for stagger.

however i will reiterate: for general content, perlica or gilberta is almost always a better alternative.
the most optimal use case i've seen of estella with yvonne is running catastrophe set for p5p5 super speedruns. general content, not so much

[cold marlin]

Do u have a good yvvone team

[undone coral]

yvonne / xaihi / tangtang / perlica or gilberta
is a safe pick

[cold marlin]

No gilberta

[undone coral]

perlica works just fine

weapon, stanza of memorials
gear, pulser 3pc (arts intensity) + hotwork gloves (str/wil/ai) or xiranite gloves t1 (int/wil/uge)

[cold marlin]

Can I use oblivion or nah

[cold cargo]

Na

[undone coral]

realistically no
if you have perly maxed and oblivion p5, maybe consider it

perlica's there as a buffer for yvonne, foremost

her personal damage is negligible unless you explicitly play for that

[cold marlin]

Got it

[cunning wharf]

Anything I could improve about this team right now?

[undone coral]

p5 on yvonne, p3 on tangtang, p2 on gil
-# in other words, ur good

important masteries if you're missing any

[junior pier]

p3 tang2? disappointment

[lethal tapir]

It’s her biggest support pot at least

[undone coral]

i meant p4* mb.

tt uge is a pain yes

[cold cargo]

Fund my p4 tt s.ln

[cold marlin]

Arclight and alesh build in zhuang fangyi team?

[lethal tapir]

With both in the same team?

[cold marlin]

ZF, perlica, arclight and alesh?

Is it bad? I haven't build them both yet

[lethal tapir]

Put Arclight on Thermite and Frontier because she has better buff uptime. Alesh doesn’t matter, just intmaxx for his fish and use OBJ or something.

It’s not bad, it’s a decent team for comfortably spamming Zhuang’s bs without worrying much about a specific rotation. You just can’t wear 2 sets of Frontier or Thermite though so the second vanguard is mostly just a battery.

[cold marlin]

Is there a rossi ZF team

[lethal tapir]

There is, you’d have to ask Clown or someone else who has Rossi and Zfy but I’ve seen it done for speed kills. I’m not sure how viable it is outside of that though.

[cold marlin]

Arclight armor with ult gain or battle skill dmg

[lethal tapir]

Uge

Uge chest, uge gloves, redeemer seal with uge, and 1 frontier o2 tube(the pink one) for the set bonus

[cinder coyote]

how do you even get Fangyi stacks on small enemies?

they die before i can do bs

[cold marlin]

Btw do u have a good rossi team

[lethal tapir]

Literally just said that you’d have to ask someone else who has Rossi. I do not have Rossi, I cannot in confidence recommend you a Rossi team.

[cold marlin]

Thanks anyway ☺️

[lethal tapir]

The only thing I know about Rossi is her team building options seem endless lol

[teal dew]

Her team is pretty flexible tho
U can play duo carry or hyper carry or physical and even art comps

[cunning wharf]

P4 on Yvonne and P1 on tangtang now

[rare kettle]

U kinda dont
She just too strong for random mobs

[junior pier]

you can but with perlica bs first as opening, but it require tremendous amount of sp per rotation, counting that her normal rotation already consume alot of sp

[cinder coyote]

i lowkey thought 1st umbral agony stage would be a problem because of this but i did it first try lmao

[flat panther]

So far rossi comp is faster than yvonne

[lethal tapir]

I've got 65 on Zfy rn, i'm not sure what the fastest here is though

trying for sub-60 but i need to crit without food which seems impossible

[flat panther]

P1 zfy?

[lethal tapir]

p5, but youve got a p5 Rossi there

[flat panther]

Make sense, i wonder how non p5 could do 65

[lethal tapir]

if your Rossi wasnt p5 I probably wouldnt have said anything to compare lol

[flat panther]

True

I tried with p1 zfy and shit was hard

[lethal tapir]

Yea, I can get her ult in 45s but you don't do any damage till the stagger anyways so you have to time your cs and Perli bs for the interupt moments.

[flat panther]

True

[junior pier]

[lethal tapir]

If I could kill with 2 bs in ult then I could get 60, but with the extra bs its 65-67 usually. The shitty part is this is how close I am to killing without a crit lol

[flat panther]

Holy 1.4mil

[lethal tapir]

But i don't have enough sp to fire off the second bs right away

[flat panther]

Ure running alesh instead of gil?

[lethal tapir]

No i'm runnin Gil

Zfy, Perli, Arc, Gil

[flat panther]

Ahh okay

How much cycle for zfy to get her ult charged, 2?

[brazen python]

For the laev team in the sheet, can't you run the frontier items on akekuri from 1.2?

[lethal tapir]

I havent tried other team comps on this yet, maybe i should experiment to see if i can get sub-60 that way. Ive tried swapping arc for Ake but she doesnt get her ult in time because there's no stagger points to trigger her cs

[lethal tapir]

You can in full ult start, with no ult start you wont get her ult in time though.

[flat panther]

I do wan to try run laeva + rossi but sadly it wont work

[lethal tapir]

need a uge kit on frontier, hopefully next patch. We've been getting a new uge frontier piece every patch so far

[lethal tapir]

It definitely works, I've seen it. Lae, Wulf, Rossi, Gil. Ive seen it phase skip Rho. I don't know if its exactly the best option for them, but it does work. Though to be fair if I can make Lae and TangTang work I think you can make Rossi work lol.

[flat panther]

No i mean cold start

For re-crisis it does work yes

[lethal tapir]

I heard it works you just need p5 wulf

but i havent tested it so i cant say for sure

[flat panther]

The prob is i dont raise male OPs

[lethal tapir]

Lol fair

i dont use Wulf either so i don't blame you

[flat panther]

Yeah i could care less about the males

I think i could do 65 or less if i hold out on perl cs

Since there’s no electrification when im doing ult burst

[lethal tapir]

Sorry i missed this, but yea its 2 cycles to get full ult. I've found its faster to go FS > Perli cs > ebs > Perli bs > fs > zfy cs > ebs > repeat since I can get full ult with 4 ebs at elect 1 or 3 ebs at elect 2.(So i'm in ult for Perli's 3rd cs instead of after) I havent tried using UGE gear though to see how fast if I can get it faster because I don't do damage without the stagger anyways.

Also when i alternate cs like this I get perli cs for ult burst

But im pretty sure p1 is mandatory for this rot to work with xiranite arm

because the extra energy from the sunderblade adds up. If you do this rot at p0 it needs 5 ebs.

[flat panther]

Any below p4 ought to run xira arm or else u gonna hardstuck forever

[lethal tapir]

Yea at p4+ I juse use slab but p1-p3 Xiranite arm would be needed.

P0 too, but with the extra ebs.

[brazen python]

Weird how my Laev can lose like 1/2th of her health during her combo

[lethal tapir]

if you're being attacked when you use her combo then its not weird. Her cs doesn't give her i-frames or anything like that. I don't get what you find weird.

[brazen python]

Outside of ult you are usually in melee range

And inside combo you are basically locked in place so seems "unavoidable"

[lethal tapir]

its very avoidable, you can dodge the moment she hits the ground and still get the full damage for it.

[pseudo parrot]

havent played the game in a while, why is there no yvonne team in the document? is she that bad right now?

[undone coral]

bc we didn't get around to adding it yet

she's still good

it's a community doc but community ppl r busy rn ig

[pseudo parrot]

ah ok

[undone coral]

yvonne / xai / tangtang / perlica or gilberta

MI sec on yvonne
intmax or xira on xai
bonekrusha or qingbo on tangtang + mi sec gloves (bs%)
pulser on perlica or xira on gilberta

[pseudo parrot]

👍

[signal tundra]

Hi, I just got back playing after taking a rest from 1st release to this day. Does anyone know what is a good gears and kit for Chen, Pengmin, Lifeng and hellagur

[delicate flint]

chen = qingbo set, pengmin = swordmancer, pog = frontier set

idk about lifeng tho

[tacit parcel]

Iirc I heard smtn about some yvonne tech u can do to increase ult dmg. Like get into her sit mode quicker
How do u do this?

[merry token]

My Chen is still on swordmancer tbh

[sour sentinel]

same

Ult damage galore

[delicate flint]

@undone coral

[sour sentinel]

my Pog's in AI/HW gear

SM chest, which is one I find strange

[delicate flint]

you focused on ult dmg than uge?

[sour sentinel]

yes

she generates UGE pretty quickly

she's also p5

[delicate flint]

what weapon?

[undone coral]

idk actually
i know u can overlap her spin (wasting time) with another action like cs so you don't waste time twice
but idk ab skipping her spin altogether

i overlap it with tang dive sometime too

[delicate flint]

@tacit parcel

[sour sentinel]

Glorious Memory

last I knew it was her BIS

no idea if that changed with 1.2

[merry token]

Mine is still on sundering

[delicate flint]

glorious still her BiS

[undone coral]

p5 lupine, do it

[sour sentinel]

well, Rossi doesn't have Sig, so the investment felt justified

[merry token]

My Rossi has Sig, but I don't really want to build a new weapon for Chen

[sour sentinel]

I have a P5 90 Sundering Steel, but not fully etched

[merry token]

Yeah my sundering is fully ethced

[sour sentinel]

the gloves will go to Rossi too

since those are fully artificed, I think I'd be in trouble if I had to use both in the same team

[delicate flint]

#theorycrafting message
lifeng

[merry token]

I don't think Chen + Rossi together is good

Too much vuln stacking and you need a consumer probably and an infliction unit still

Like if you are gonna stack that much vulnerability you really want a consumer or it's kinda a waste

[sour sentinel]

do I understand right that vuln stacks do nothing for overall damage, just when they're consumed?

I'm still trying to fully understand mechanics, NGL this game's complicated

[delicate flint]

they increase phy dmg dealt when consumed

[sour sentinel]

but only when consumed

[delicate flint]

example, endmin bs eats vuln stacks, so her bs deals more phy dmg

[sour sentinel]

so having 4 stacks doesn't mean more damage taken vs having 2 stacks

yes, but Rossi isn't doing more damage with 2 stacks vs 4

so AI boosts Breach and Crush, but at what point would Endmin not need as much AI?

ie new SM chest vs the old

[wet moat]

just think vuln as infliction for pysical

[sour sentinel]

yeah, I don't understand the arts stuff, I've been physical since day 1

I tried to make sense of the Arts debuff system, but it seems more complicated than Physical

[delicate flint]

.reactions

[languid wasp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1331458230731145327/received_4053726681526599.png

[lethal tapir]

I don't play physical but isnt it pretty much the same, physical just procs and consumes vuln instead of arts inflictions

[lament nest]

Can someone tell me if it's worth getting Laevatain's weapon? I've been using her lately with the bp weapon. I can clear Rhodahn with her in 1:08 min

[sour sentinel]

problem I have with inflictions is understanding the icons

[lethal tapir]

I guess its a bit different

[merry token]

Physical has stacking statuses (knockdown and lift) and consuming statuses (breach and crush)

[sour sentinel]

I know that one will replace another, but it's still confusing

mainly the icons and knowing who does what

[delicate flint]

second element will dictate the kind of reaction

[lethal tapir]

Her sig at p0 is like a 9% difference iirc, depends how important that is to you. It's not gonna be the difference that lets you phase skip Rho if your Lae is p0.

[sour sentinel]

yeah, I understand that, I guess I just have to read the tooltips

[merry token]

Isn't the best character for phase skipping rho as a f2p avy or something

Since you can set up a giga nuke

[winged mesa]

you kinda still need gilberta to phase skip

[lethal tapir]

Clown has a gilbless phase skip with Zhuang. I'm pretty sure with Gilb Rossi still has the fastest clears though.

I'm actually not positive what the fastest Rossi speed kill is on Rho

[sour sentinel]

my Rossi kind of sucks

she can't 1 ult kill a boss (mainly the Rocket launcher Bull)

[drifting narwhal]

Yes rossi is current record holder for rhodagn

[lethal tapir]

Did you clear heat stacks before ult?

[drifting narwhal]

2nd is yvonne

[sour sentinel]

honestly, I don't remember, it felt like months ago

[lethal tapir]

What's Yvonnes, has she gotten a speed kill since the timer was added and backstabs got removed from speed kills?

[drifting narwhal]

3rd is lr if im correct

[lethal tapir]

I know Zhuang has a 13s

[drifting narwhal]

Or maybe 3rd was zfy

[lethal tapir]

I'm actually curious what Yvonnes p5p5 speed kill is with the load timer added though

[lament nest]

I couldn't decide because her sig only gives Basic attack bonus and can only be triggered by Ult, while the Umbral torch gives out many heat and art damage bonus 😭

[lethal tapir]

Her sig gives unconditional heat damage% too

Ahh i see torch gives atk% too though, i don't actually have torch so i'm just looking at it now. The difference is honestly super minor I wouldnt pull Lae's sig expecting major gains.

but it is a bit better

[glass ruin]

bonus is umbral is like the best option u can pick from the 1.0 box smile if u have a need for it

[lethal tapir]

Also true, both Yvonne and Gil's bp weapons kinda suck compared to other options available.

[merry token]

Yvonne just uses wedge

If you don't have Sig, wedge is perfectly fine

[lethal tapir]

exactly, and Gil uses Stanza

[merry token]

I have Gil Sig so

[lethal tapir]

i think youre missing the point here

[merry token]

But yeah no one picks Gil or Yvonne BP options

[lament nest]

Thanks you just opened my eyes

I mostly maximize her battle skill damage through rotations but her signature being basic attack bonus is not it..

[signal tundra]

Is this good? where do I get it

[signal tundra]

Thx

[tidal ravine]

i picked navigator because it looked cool and was a gun

[merry token]

I have navigator because I never intended to pull for laevatain

[astral oyster]

I picked navigator cuz I didnt have any other options for Yvonne

I proceeded to pull WEDGE 3 times in a row

[merry token]

I was wondering about navigator on fluorite before I saw the sub stat was cryo damage

[tardy moon]

what the fuck

[tidal ravine]

idk what to do with this weapon

[merry token]

I'm ngl I don't remember what my pog is on

And I play physical mostly

[merry token]

Cope that it will be useful in the future

[astral oyster]

Use it until you get Wedge I guess and hope some unit in the future has synergy with it

[merry token]

Unfortunately cryo damage sub massively limits it usability

[astral oyster]

Or artzy rerun idk

[tidal ravine]

i dont have yv but i have wedge

[lethal tapir]

Most of Lae’s issues right now stem from her gear options rather than her kit not being good. Hotworks is bad too, it’s the only set with matching attributes and good 3rd lines for her so it still gives her the best dps, but you only proc Hotworks set effect after her ebs, and the set bonus gives AI as if we’re trying to maximize the DoT damage on her combustion.

[strong schooner]

newbie me picked navigator because it thought it suited flourite, then i got p1 wedge and there is also homelonging available...

[tidal ravine]

and i dont think ill pull yv

[merry token]

Okay so why the fuck did we pick navigator when we don't even have yvonne

[tidal ravine]

i was new to the game and dumb

[astral oyster]

Gun funny

[strong schooner]

really used "it" describing newbie me god bless i should go to sleep

[astral oyster]

Anyway gang should I max out Xaihi's intellect scaling amp using ardelia's sig?

[chrome beacon]

newbies are not human, it's true

[lethal tapir]

No, the loss of the proc effect isn’t worth the extra amp

[sour sentinel]

Endmin got new drip

time will tell if it's better or not

[chrome beacon]

Only worth for Nature DPS shenanigans

[astral oyster]

Ah fair. I have both chivlaric virtues and detonation unit. Which one is better for her

[astral oyster]

Main dps Gilberta time

[wet moat]

no, dats a joke n u only do dat on speedkill/not having deto/chival

[lament nest]

Deto unit works fine + the new tube set with intellect based

[chrome beacon]

Detonation Unit

[lethal tapir]

Depends on the team, with Yvonne it’s usually Chiv, with LR or TT it’s deto. It depends on if your Xaihi’s cs is getting the second cryo infliction or not. If it is, then Deto. Since Yvonne usually consumes the first cryo inflict with her bs Xaihi doesn’t proc arts burst so Chiv is better. Again, the proc effect matters a lot.

[junior pier]

have to balanced the ladies

[sour sentinel]

Perlica seems like one where her gear/weapon depends on who she's with

[astral oyster]

I found that if you time it right you can get off tang tang's cryo inflict before Xaihi's cs, which can trigger arts burst and her weapon skill right

[lament nest]

Yep, as a player who don't have chiv—it's hell to proc deto in Yvonne team unless i use tangtang or alesh

[astral oyster]

Or am I getting something wronk

[merry token]

Xaihi also

[chrome beacon]

The Combustion on Laeva EBS was actually pretty useful on UM4-3 honestly

[sour sentinel]

I don't use her, but I'll take your word for it

[lethal tapir]

If you’re doing that then it works, in the normal Yvonne rots though you go TT Bs> TT cs > fs > Yvonne Bs > instant Fs > Yvonne + Gil + Xaihi cs for the fastest rot.

[lament nest]

Qingbo is the best for her right now

[sour sentinel]

I have her in Qingbo with ZF team

[astral oyster]

Ah ok imma get the ball for chiv later then

[sour sentinel]

but apparently that changes with Rossi?

[chrome beacon]

I was told Qingbo matters for certain Rossi rotations

[sour sentinel]

it might, I don't know

[chrome beacon]

Haven't played all too much of her yet though

[astral oyster]

Wait so when shouldn't you use qingbo

[chrome beacon]

when you don't care about the combo skill cooldown reduction

[lethal tapir]

Qingbo lowers Perlica’s combo cooldown, which increases electrification uptime. It’s pretty good, though I don’t know if it’s worth dropping the bonus from AI outside of Zhuang teams.

[winged mesa]

everyones gear and weapon always depends on who theyre with

[granite shuttle]

What's skill worth to M3 for Gilberta if there's any?

[winged mesa]

ult m1

[granite shuttle]

Thank you!

[winged mesa]

not limited to just team comps, contents etc

[sour sentinel]

fair I guess

might explain why Xiranite is recommended for LF

I can see the value in UGE, too bad it doesn't have any Agi on it

[chrome beacon]

LF?

[wet moat]

lifeng

[chrome beacon]

buh

[tidal ravine]

he has the talent illumination, so will and int has value on him

[sour sentinel]

hmm

[chrome beacon]

you're stating the obvious, and his statement still holds true

[sour sentinel]

maybe I need to start doing more artificing...

FML

[tidal ravine]

fair

[sour sentinel]

Lifeng and Mastery, yes, no?

I did some M1's on Pog, was told that they were breakpoints

[chrome beacon]

Battle Skill sure, Ult if you want him to deal some more damage

[tidal ravine]

m3 bs

[sour sentinel]

I was hoping to find some info on them, but my internet skills are lacking

[chrome beacon]

https://endfield.wiki.gg/wiki/Lifeng

[sour sentinel]

right, that's a thing

[chrome beacon]

oh they're actually just calling it a polearm

[sour sentinel]

that's because it is?

[winged mesa]

what did you expect it to be called

[chrome beacon]

well just reading someone calling it that makes me think they're genshin-brained first and foremost

[winged mesa]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polearm

[sour sentinel]

looks like BS has 1% Physical Susceptibility at M1

[chrome beacon]

huge isn't it

we tell people to get these 1% increases, but when it comes to 4 stars like Antal? nahh let him rot in hell

[sour sentinel]

well, the gain after M1 doesn't change

[chrome beacon]

it's +2% from M2 to M3

[sour sentinel]

oh you're right!

yeah, M3 is the goal now

[winged mesa]

well i do tell people to get antal bs ult m3, whether they do it or not isnt my problem

[chrome beacon]

fair

[hybrid pecan]

Anyone know how Ember heals? And if she's worth building as sub

[wise dock]

combo

[hybrid pecan]

I see, does it have a set percentage or it can be upgraded

[wise dock]

look into it

[merry token]

Will scaling

[wise dock]

for sure theres sustain ember build

[hybrid pecan]

Is she worth building?, and if I should get her weapon and if she's also good for Rossi 😭

[wise dock]

no idea

[merry token]

I want to make her work with Rossi but it's like, ember doesn't inflict or consume so we are at -1 team slot

You could ignore the consume part of the team entirely and go like ember, Rossi, Gil Ake instead maybe

Or ignore Gil combo skill entirely and swap Ake for pog maybe

It just means you never get Gil combo skill until after Rossi ult

[winged mesa]

at this point whats gil even doing

[serene fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/lasso-cody-harris-the-cowboy-way-riding-a-horse-horseback-gif-17822535

Honestly, if I ever have a flex spot, my choices are either Ardelia for insane heals or Gilberta to just play as Scorpion.

[merry token]

Ult buff and grouping

Gil is just an insane burst buffer if you can use either skill or combo decently often

[winged mesa]

yeah but that team has contradicting buffers

its like trying to buff rossis whole kit but not buffing too proper

[sacred mica]

[merry token]

No you see, Rossi is here to buff ember

🧠

Heat and physical damage amp from rossi

[junior pier]

its same as Tang2 here to buff Yvonne, Tang2 do all the heavy stuff

[silver cove]

do someone have the link for physical team build?

[cloud storm]

Man... essences been kicking my ass lately, no luck at all leveling

[rigid zealot]

What does arclight provide for zhuang fangyi ?

[merry token]

Sp

[rigid zealot]

When..

[supple pollen]

SP at more frequent intervals than other vanguards, free elec source on ULT

On application or consumption of Elec arc cs procs

[merry token]

Her combo skill

[rigid zealot]

Is there a better option than her then

[merry token]

No

[supple pollen]

Situationally yes

Akekuri, Alesh both have arguments for them
No VG setups can be good too

[merry token]

Pog does nothing in non physical, ake maybe okay, alesh is usually used with arclight if you need more sp

But arclight is the primary sp generator

[rigid zealot]

Wait when does her combo skill happen ?

[rare kettle]

Applying or consumjng electrification

Ehich is what fangyi does

Or just consuming, one of the 2, i forgor

[rigid zealot]

Ok then thx

[undone coral]

both

applying & consuming

[cold cargo]

Both apply and consume proc it

[rare kettle]

Im so smart

[undone coral]

u must be intmaxxing

[cold cargo]

I gave him my tube

[undone coral]

gimme the other one

[cold cargo]

You can have my other tube

[flat panther]

4-6 67secs

[undone coral]

rossi?

[flat panther]

yeap usual rossi, perl, gil, tt

[undone coral]

i forgor were u p5p5 or just p5p0

[rare kettle]

67?

[flat panther]

p5p3 atm

i think endmin could be better

yeah i should switch to endmin

[cold cargo]

Shatter rossi

[undone coral]

#theorycrafting has an insane 43s with rossi + chen on fortmaker

uberwhel acc tho

[cold cargo]

When did it get sent

[undone coral]

bluej sent it like, 2h ago?

[cold cargo]

I wanna see that

[lethal tapir]

fuck so close to sub-60, finally hit 60s with Zhuang tho

[flat panther]

since endmin got p4 eminent

could be doing better compare to tt

[potent trellis]

Guys can i use Oblivion with Perly?

[undone coral]

whose team

[potent trellis]

Rossi

Or in general

[supple pollen]

Yes

Situationally bis, never too far behind even if it isnt

[flat panther]

damn ure getting quicker

[potent trellis]

Nice
I dont really care about minmaxxing that much
But i dont wanna shoot myself in the foot either

[lethal tapir]

I changed my rot so I used Arclights ult to get Zhuangs second cs and use Perli's bs during ult burst to proc Deto, also I swapped Gil to Stanza cuz she didnt need the UGE

[sacred mica]

Nefa?

[cold cargo]

#theorycrafting message

[undone coral]

tidalklast

[supple pollen]

More splashable choice so never hurts if trying to save resources

[lethal tapir]

I just needed to Stall 1 Zhuang bs 3 seconds to get enough energy for arc

[sacred mica]

Oo demn

[flat panther]

true since she only need to cast ult once

[sacred mica]

Hmm i should prolly also try to get sub 60 on that

[undone coral]

tall order

[sacred mica]

[cold cargo]

With lr ?

[sacred mica]

Yep

[undone coral]

kreative's p5 fy is at 61s rn

[cold cargo]

What pot was ur lr

[lethal tapir]

Its fun, I'm enjoying it. You need to break to stagger to deal any damage though so thats the crucial part.

[lethal tapir]

60s akchewally

[undone coral]

ohrly

u did it! gg

[lethal tapir]

Im so proud

lol

now for sub-60

just need 1 more second

[undone coral]

im sorta busy for next two days but later i'll be trying for sub60 LR

p1p2 copium time

[cold cargo]

Do it with mine

[undone coral]

fish one for me

[flat panther]

ok with endmin its kinda hard

since u cant just simply consume vul

[lethal tapir]

The important part is staggering, I'm sure LR has enough dmg. I think they only have like 1.8m or something like that.

[sacred mica]

Mine is p3 rn

[cold cargo]

[sacred mica]

Yeah, i saw sumone doin it alr so it should be possible even for a noob like me

[cold cargo]

Finally another p3 lr runner

[sacred mica]

Kekw

[winged mesa]

the whel found a whel friend

[flat panther]

damn, rossi ult didnt crit on last hit 🥀

so close

[sacred mica]

Well i'll do it sumtime... Tmr maybe

[winged mesa]

ok so gilberta solo um4-3 is also a fucking thing

[undone coral]

what.

[winged mesa]

god thats hilarious

[undone coral]

lynx?

[lethal tapir]

Does she actually get enough heals because there are multiple enemies? how does that work?

[undone coral]

can't be right

[winged mesa]

FTP Lynx

[sacred mica]

Lynx op

[winged mesa]

https://www.fxbilibili.com/video/BV1vTdGBaEkE/

[undone coral]

[winged mesa]

why isnt vx working

[undone coral]

someone call an exorcist

[sacred mica]

Slap lynx and chiv on gil

[winged mesa]

theyre using ftp

[sacred mica]

What's ftp?

[undone coral]

freedom

[winged mesa]

freedom

[sacred mica]

Ohhhh

Crazy

[undone coral]

i mean its passive literally heals

[sacred mica]

Yeah

[winged mesa]

why are none of the embed fixer working

[wise dock]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1vTdGBaEkE/

[undone coral]

everyone try ur luck!!

[night terrace]

So I'm a returning player and this is currrently my team (Quit after a week when the game got release), How should I build my team and who to get

[merry token]

seems fine

[wise dock]

wuh still able to access the web

[undone coral]

get lifeng, ideally; but arde works alright too
matching stats gears til u reach wuling

[winged mesa]

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1vTdGBaEkE/
https://www.fxbilibili.com/video/BV1vTdGBaEkE/
https://www.bilibiliez.com/video/BV1vTdGBaEkE/

yeah bro ggs

[winged mesa]

it can redirect, embed just dies

wait nvm one got through

[wise dock]

[merry token]

theres also a xaihi solo

[winged mesa]

what could that be idk

[sacred mica]

Also on this fr? It's that annoying?

[merry token]

laughs in ember physical

[sacred mica]

Well imma keep it in mind

[winged mesa]

dreams

[merry token]

but just interrupting its skills gives huge stagger

[undone coral]

its shield stays up til u break stagger

[sacred mica]

What can i slap to make stagger faster hm

[undone coral]

ur hard capped by its skills tbh

[merry token]

chen

[sacred mica]

Tidal?

[undone coral]

yeah

[lethal tapir]

Yea, literally if I use Zhuangs ebs before the stagger it does a sliver of the hp bar, compared to the entire thing after the stagger.

[sacred mica]

Don't have her built

[night terrace]

ok so I just need to pushing the main story right?

[sacred mica]

Lol

[undone coral]

no need to have her built

chen fortmaker swordmancer uge

with LR, is wild

[sacred mica]

Na but like

She'll die

[undone coral]

trust in the non-co reduced damage taken

[sacred mica]

[winged mesa]

do we know whats the fastest tidal

[undone coral]

fastest ive seen is that 43s

[lethal tapir]

43s with Rossi Chen right now

[winged mesa]

full p5?

[undone coral]

ofc

one rossi ult and perly finisher and it's gone

[winged mesa]

just saw 1+1 fangyi 55s

[lethal tapir]

yea

[undone coral]

guh high bar

[lethal tapir]

can you send that

I wanna see how they beat me by 5s

[winged mesa]

perli ardel catas HOLY

https://www.bilibiliez.com/video/BV18GRfBDEWz/

[cold cargo]

Wrong one

[winged mesa]

I SWEAR TO GOD IM GONNA SEND ALL 3 FIXERS

https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV18GRfBDEWz/
https://www.bilibiliez.com/video/BV18GRfBDEWz/
https://www.fxbilibili.com/video/BV18GRfBDEWz/

this shd prob be fx

maybe it isnt

[undone coral]

radiant spook

[winged mesa]

whatever dude i tihnk it needs all 3 to work

[undone coral]

u need the three tgt for the synergy

[lethal tapir]

Oh I see they put Arclight on SM, thats funny but a good idea. I should try that.

thanks for sharing that

[winged mesa]

https://www.bilibiliez.com/video/BV1KWdGBDEcx/
https://www.fxbilibili.com/video/BV1KWdGBDEcx/
https://www.vxbilibili.com/video/BV1KWdGBDEcx/

whel yvonne 47s

ok now it doesnt work does the team order also matter

[cold cargo]

[undone coral]

how much HP does this big boi have
does 910k plus C res really make him so tanky

[winged mesa]

found rossi 40secs

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hFRRBVEos/

[wet moat]

its def++, same shit as minos

[undone coral]

def++? wdym

how much is that in number terms

[wet moat]

proabably 90% damage resist kek

[undone coral]

literal DEF stat buff?