team-build

[slender ore]

i dont but im building team of all arts anyways

[rare kettle]

So why do u bother

Just use them in both teams

[slender ore]

becuz no reason

[wise dock]

all phys

[rare kettle]

By the time we do get 2 team content, its gonna be 2028

[slender ore]

i got all the gang

now im missing a nature main dps

[tawny tundra]

fluorite

[slender ore]

weak 👎

[wise dock]

ardelia

[slender ore]

shes a healer wdym

[winged mesa]

she can be a dps

[slender ore]

[tardy moon]

if you try hard enough anyone can be a dps

[wise dock]

even a support op like pog can be a dps !

[wet moat]

[wise dock]

just be schizophrenic

[slender ore]

might aswell switch off alesh from cryo to put in elec

[tardy moon]

[rare kettle]

And mentally ill

[slender ore]

so now what do i use for cryo team with yvonne

[wet moat]

if we got 2 team content, hg gonna announce it, same thing as 2 op run

[lethal tapir]

Nothing changes, you aren’t using Yvonne’s team at the same time so you just swap the units back when you need to

[slender ore]

idc

im building teams of all elements

[tardy moon]

i'm doing estella dps too no endmin or chen

[daring surge]

except for Gilb

[wet moat]

much better than ur xaihi dps

[tardy moon]

wdym it's already been done

[daring surge]

where

[raven badger]

I would just wait tbh, we will get more op to use that fit teams better, building sub-par teams just for the sake of it will just make it harder to build in the future

[winged mesa]

if xaihi mdps exist why cant gil

[tardy moon]

no it's actually a worse nuke

[wet moat]

ill nuke u

[tardy moon]

[daring surge]

anim lock and no* sustain

[tardy moon]

need to get her weapon essence done before gilb banner it will be done

[daring surge]

do mdps estella use jet or obj?

[celest wasp]

does anyone know if upgrading perlica combo skill reduce its cooldown at any point?

[slender ore]

nope!

[quasi tiger]

mandatory 2 separate teams gonna be harder than CC
lord help me get me an actual 2nd team before that happens

[slender ore]

what is CC

[tardy moon]

depends on rot/team/team weapons
generally if you can fit a cryo infliction in after solidification then p5 obj can be slightly better but jet is a more reliable statstick

[quasi tiger]

contingency contract
pick your poison event

[celest wasp]

alr thanks, so she will stay like this forever

[slender ore]

yes

[rare kettle]

Yes

As every cs, the cd gets reduced at m3(except for arclight)

[slender ore]

as i said, nope!

[celest wasp]

2 different answers lol

[slender ore]

m3 for a small decrease in cooldown time

doesnt sound worth it

[winged mesa]

except for tangtang and fluorite that has 2s reduction
arclight with 0s reduction
every other op has 1s reduction

the upgrades will only matter when it matters to sync cs with other ops

[sage dome]

this can't be right 😭

[quasi tiger]

oh but it is

[rare kettle]

You cant say "nope" to a question like that bruh

[slender ore]

[sage dome]

have you not even done the new horizons pulls?

[quasi tiger]

No

[rare kettle]

And it is worth it for those who care

[sage dome]

w dedication

[junior pier]

arknights usually did not have that steep requirements to play, tho maybe many teams could save from boredom, it might comes with great amount of investment

[slender ore]

not that much investment

[wild solar]

Okay buddy whale.

[sage dome]

.roadmap

[languid wasp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086659785580545/1493970217259368538/cal_en_US.jpg?ex=69e19070&is=69e03ef0&hm=052afddc6528aa38ffde70f70d0dbaf8ec00c26959f667bbbf0eaaa3b85f1da3

[quasi tiger]

5 days too long

[zenith wagon]

Are there any good teams that use Rossi and Surtr?

Kinda coping cause I have Rossi but the only physical I've invested in is Angelina

[rare kettle]

Domt call her that, she doesnt like it

Amd ye there is

[zenith wagon]

[rare kettle]

Its just harder to pull off

[sage dome]

[zenith wagon]

I've been playing Arknights for over half a decade, old habit won't die easily

Warfarin and old players getting put through it with Endfield

[winged mesa]

woah woah are we deadnaming laev here

[zenith wagon]

Yes

[placid helm]

🔥

[zenith wagon]

Funny no one jumped to defending Angelina

smh

[winged mesa]

bcs laev specifically mentioned in the story she doesnt want to be called surtr

[zenith wagon]

I know, I read it

[winged mesa]

gilberta is still the good ol ajimu

(cute)

[zenith wagon]

Anywho

Would I be running Surtr, Rossi, Angelina, and Akekuri/Wulf?

[wet moat]

nah, 2nd team being solo snowshine

[zenith wagon]

Idk if the pay off is worthwhile over just running Eyja, Ake, and Wulf

[winged mesa]

personally not a huge fan of that team but if thats what strikes you fancy then go for it

[wet moat]

fun event

[zenith wagon]

I just got done fixing this problem, more or less Takes ages to build units

Kinda sad I built Last Rite cause she's so cute only to wind up playing Yvonne

[zenith wagon]

What would be the suggestion to run Rossi and Surtr?

Cause realistically I'm not building a team just for Rossi

[wet moat]

still gonna call her surtr

[zenith wagon]

I have to work on Fangyi's team after this

[keen spear]

whats ur guys high score on the tower event

[winged mesa]

well uhh you dont

if you really want to then gil p5wulf

[zenith wagon]

Assuming that I want to regardless

p5?

[chrome beacon]

probably the team you said before

[winged mesa]

100, cba

[chrome beacon]

might not feel that good to play but you can give it a try

[zenith wagon]

Gut says it'd only really be any good for single target fights

[keen spear]

blyat

[zenith wagon]

But I didn't invest in Rossi to not use her

[chrome beacon]

Rossi's damage yeah

[winged mesa]

[zenith wagon]

Well and if we're going without Akekuri I wouldn't want to try running Surtr at all against a group

That sounds miserable

[winged mesa]

wulf cs has aoe

[chrome beacon]

What?

[zenith wagon]

unless we're entirely relying on Angelina to group them

[rare kettle]

Eleven hundred
Couldnt be asked to do more

[zenith wagon]

I know but I rely on Akekuri a lot to constantly get more infliction

[chrome beacon]

The more targets you have available to inflict Heat Inflictions on, the more you can spam Laeva's Battle Skill

[zenith wagon]

Yeah

Akekuri's skill is AoE

[chrome beacon]

If you just get her ultimate up you don't even need Akekuri's Battle Skill for it

[buoyant geyser]

yall can write in #help ?

[zenith wagon]

Spammable infliction gen

[chrome beacon]

Wulf's Combo Skill also is

with about as big of an AoE

[zenith wagon]

Eh it's got a cooldown

[remote halo]

Help... Is broken somehow

Nor even I can send

[zenith wagon]

I feel like Akekuri is good qol for shorter fights or against mobs

[quasi tiger]

#help needs help

[chrome beacon]

can skip it with his Ultimate at P5

[zenith wagon]

Ultimate is another cooldown

[chrome beacon]

in any case he's generating more inflictions than Akekuri could

[zenith wagon]

Well rather it's not constantly available

[chrome beacon]

pretty much no matter the situation

[zenith wagon]

Might be a preference thing

Cause Akekuri giving SP so I can keep spamming her AoE infliction all the time just has me doing enhanced skills with Surtr all the time

There's very little down time

Though Wulf's combo's off Ake's skill is what I mainly care about him for

[winged mesa]

akekuri aint rly giving any sp realistically

that cs condition

[zenith wagon]

cs?

[chrome beacon]

only occasionally procing her combo skill on boss enemies

otherwise it's entirely just her Ultimate generating almost one Battle Skill's worth of SP

[robust owl]

is it worth M3'ing gilberta's ult?

[chrome beacon]

which is basically what you're getting from Wulfgard's Combo Skill

[zenith wagon]

If you build her right I'm pretty sure you get 2, but yeah it's mostly ultimate

[wet moat]

m1 enough

[chrome beacon]

two what

[zenith wagon]

skill's worth of SP

[placid helm]

HEAT

[zenith wagon]

Either that or I'm just conveniently ending my combos during the ult so it looks like more

[winged mesa]

her ult at m3 gives 80sp, 1 skill bar is 100sp
her cs gives 7.5*2 + at most additional 75%

[chrome beacon]

you're getting 80 per Akekuri Ultimate even at M3

[zenith wagon]

That's so weird

[chrome beacon]

it's 100 SP per Battle Skill that you're using

[zenith wagon]

It really feels like more

[chrome beacon]

probably cause of passive regen

[zenith wagon]

Prolly

Mix of passive regen and finishers while it's going

[chrome beacon]

ye

[zenith wagon]

Idk then it's just preference ig

[placid helm]

[zenith wagon]

I've tried not using Ake before and it didn't feel great

Less convenient anyways

[chrome beacon]

I mean I think Wulfgard is a fraud too, but his value can't be brushed off either

[zenith wagon]

I mean mostly in terms of like random encounters around the map

Casual stuff it feels like I'd rather just have Akekuri than not

If it's a boss then she's whatever

[chrome beacon]

sure, it's up to you what you use

[keen spear]

@lethal tapir i am a little dumb

remember how i was a little sp off and had to wait in alesh rot

[zenith wagon]

Guess I'll have to learn what a good rotation with Surtr, Rossi, Wulf, and Angelina is like

[keen spear]

after doing cs

[lethal tapir]

Yea

[keen spear]

i can just m1 ult and m3 cs for more sp recovery on alesh lol

[lethal tapir]

That was why you couldnt skip fangyi's cs right

[keen spear]

yeah

[lethal tapir]

Oh lol, thats a good point. I forgot his masteries would probs increase sp gain too.

I just promoted mine to e4 this morning

[keen spear]

ult m1 is cap, goes from 20 to 25, and cs goes from 10 to 12 at m1 and 12 to 15 at m3

so thats 10 more sp

which should be just enough i think

[leaden cobalt]

has any gearing changed in the rossi tt perli gil team?

[lethal tapir]

Thats not bad, should be enough to make up for what you'd get from stalling for the time it takes to use her cs

youre p3 zhuang now right?

[keen spear]

3+1 currently

will hopefully be 4/5+3/4 soobn

[lethal tapir]

Nice so you get the sp back from her bs too

[keen spear]

depending on luck

it works btw

without mastering his cs

ult m1 was enough

[supple pollen]

several options

[lethal tapir]

good luck. Hopefully you get her p5 early, p4 is the big one though I woulda been happy enough if I had to stop there

[keen spear]

well ill spend for 1 pity soon, should hopefully get p4 and thatll guarantee me a wep pot

[leaden cobalt]

any recommendations for general content just don’t wanna waste artifice catalysts

[keen spear]

hopefully i get more than just the pot

[supple pollen]

qb tt if p0
qb perlica
rest can stay as they were in 1.1 for general content

assuming general content is like umbral and not overworld

since it does not matter for overworld dont bother swapping

[leaden cobalt]

ah yeah i should mention the potentials. my tt is p3 rossi p2 gil p2 perli p5

[lethal tapir]

Its nice that the guarantee at 18 doesnt reset the current 4 pull pity counter, and you can still get Barge in the 10 pull you use to get the guarantee for 2 copies. That's how i got my p5

[leaden cobalt]

i already maxed the bonecrusha set for tt so that’s nice

[supple pollen]

other than qb perlica no reason to pivot

p1+ qb tt is high end stuff

[keen spear]

well heres hoping my luck turning from here on

finally got a barge copy after like 20 arsenal pulls and my pity for another is in 2, lets get p5 in 2 pulls yeah

trust

[jolly cedar]

is there a point to max etching a detonation unit or like a wild wanderer

is the benefit proportional to the amount of stuff that you consume in order to max it

[keen spear]

depends entierly on whos holding it

max etching a det unit for a sub dps perlica for example is amazing

[jolly cedar]

perlica usually

i get detonation but when using wild wanderer on her i wonder if it is even worth

in like a fangyi team

[keen spear]

in fangyi team

i would say its more a choice and if you have excess mats

[jolly cedar]

its just that i have nothing else to farm for so its just something i can spend stam on

[keen spear]

perlica is not providing as much damage in fangyi team than in any other team

[jolly cedar]

also are wild wanderer pots even all that important

[keen spear]

the pots are yeah

[jolly cedar]

hmm i guess wanderer is still the better choice in a fangyi team even if you dont have any pots on wanderer

[keen spear]

depends on your rotation and your comp

[jolly cedar]

using this rn

similar to you in that regard kekw

[keen spear]

really just depends on your rotation

[jolly cedar]

tbh i have a rotation for when the ults are up but when the ults arent i have no idea what kind of rotation i should actually be having

[placid helm]

spam

[jolly cedar]

yeah usually its perl skill and fangyi skill spam but it feels less like a rotation and more of a button mash

[placid helm]

i personally just use gilb suck and spam zfy if got no ults

[robust owl]

is Rossi's or Tang Tang's ult worth M3'ing?

[tardy moon]

rossi's ult should be a priority

tangtang's if you're minmaxing damage

[placid helm]

[jolly cedar]

my question is how often should you use perl skill before you spam fangyi skill

[supple pollen]

Perl bskill is used for building blades

Once you have blades built up there's no reason to use it

[jolly cedar]

but if you dont do you use it before every fangyi skill

[supple pollen]

During ult at like 5-8 blades it can be worth not perlica skilling and just bursting but thats viberotting stuff

[jolly cedar]

viberotting? lol thats the first time im hearing such a word

[supple pollen]

General loop is perl bskill > fangyi combo + perl combo > fangyi bskill

Deviations exist

[jolly cedar]

guessing theres also arclight combo in between

[supple pollen]

If arclight combo procs press arclight combo

Can wait the few seconds to loop it properly

Arclight isnt in every team, however

[jolly cedar]

but yeah i guess because its so simple i was wondering whether i was doing anything wrong because its remarkably simple

[supple pollen]

Neither is perlica i guess

[jolly cedar]

yeah while people might have objections to this team im pretty okay with it

[robust owl]

don't you SP-starve with that team?

[jolly cedar]

i get that question a lot, and no

avy uses bs like every time i get 9 spears

which is around every 30-60 seconds

so shes less sp hungry than others

so it wouldnt work with other dps actually

[supple pollen]

avy is fine

its similar to line antal or ardelia in terms of sp cost

[winged mesa]

yk shuo everytime i looka t ur pfp i alwasy expect a bean on kal hands

[supple pollen]

it would be kinda peak

[winged mesa]

very true

[zealous orbit]

why does pog like never use nr in teams with him

[winged mesa]

buff dilution
atk% buff is more precious in a team with a lot of damage% buff

[void warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxhXAEr9BkM

in your experience between antal, gilberta amd alesh who should be the 4th man in the team?

[lethal tapir]

Gilberta if you have her, but thats just my personal bias. Its pretty much up to preference, though I do have my reasons why i think Gil is better. Some might prefer the others though.

[void warren]

im leaning alesh since it seems i will be able to spam skills with 2 vanguards in the team

[lethal tapir]

Thats why you would pick Alesh for that slot, yes. He'll make it more comfortable so you can spam Zhuang's bs without worrying much about a specific rotation.

Antal or Gil would be for more damage.

[void warren]

ill wait for the next UM to see which one benefits me the most

[dense shard]

can i change this equipment for one will main stat?

[lethal tapir]

It doesnt matter, there isnt a main stat will that gives UGE so its better to have the UGE than a matching main stat for a support who does no dmg anyways

[dense shard]

okk thanks

[chrome beacon]

Antal comfiest, Gilberta better when you're speedrunning or doing overworld shenanigans

[cobalt glen]

I just got Last Rite!! What’s her best team?

[sinful schooner]

Xaihi / Tangtang / Gilberta

[cobalt glen]

Okay! Thats what I thought too! Thank you

[light blade]

what team is rossi good in

also i dont have gilberta

[placid helm]

w

[supple pollen]

Phys orientated Rossi with a crusher/breacher, vuln stacker and heat infliction stacker

Slightly weaker arts rossi with 3 buffers

Shatter rossi, where rossi replaces chen

Or just slap her in a competent team as a 4th and wheelchair her

[light blade]

ok so what characters

rossi, endmin/da pan, chen and like akekuri or sum

[placid helm]

rossi,endmin/pog,chen,wulf/akekuri based on his statement

chen is the only option for vuln stacking

• her ult deals a lot

[placid helm]

havent used da pan but can he breach aside pog?

[light blade]

hes crush i think

[placid helm]

i think pog is the only phy breacher

[supple pollen]

rossi
endmin/dapan/pog
chen/lifeng
wulf/akekuri

[light blade]

yea

[supple pollen]

is the typical setup, there's more options but they're usually reliant on understanding the setup and playing it perfectly for some time save

[light blade]

cool

endfields teambuilding is quite advanced

[placid helm]

kind of

only phy team is a unique one cus everyone is a DPS somehow

[light blade]

i can just mix and match rossi into my already existing physical team of pog, endmin, chen and lifeng

[golden gate]

Is lifeng better with swordmancer daggers (ult dmg) or flints? (Physical dmg)

[placid helm]

saves u time, just sneak her up there lol

[light blade]

yea but pogs cool he does a lot of stuff

other than dps

i wish i had gilberta dawg why she required in soo many teams

[placid helm]

can be alternate for ardelia

also provides better buff

[light blade]

yea shes like the best support

[golden gate]

I think it's really cool that if you route your rotation in a certain way, Pog can give 24% Atk and 24 arts intensity with his ult

Da Pan can reach 3 ult buff stacks with battle skill and ult

Da Pan's crush also counts too, idk if it gives the buff on the crush tho

[light blade]

interesting

[golden gate]

If it does, just ult and combo gives you full buff

[placid helm]

yes. always activate his ult before stacking and consuming vuln

well i use ember,end,pog,chen.. i dont use da pan hes too big

[golden gate]

Only thing is Da Pan's combo skill getting in the way when you consume 4 vuln for breach

[light blade]

i saw in a video that da pan is more efficient than endmin in my physical team but i already got endmin leveled up so i just use her

[golden gate]

I just wait out the timer, and then Pog combo skill

[quasi tiger]

yurpppppppppppp

[golden gate]

Pog actually does so much it's insane

[light blade]

yo what

can i do that wit endmin

[golden gate]

No. Da Pan has an inherent 20% crush damage multiplier on his combo skill

His Crushes will be 20% bigger than Endmin's

[placid helm]

endmin can crush quicker

[light blade]

1/5 damage increase make him do like half of rhodagns hp bar

[tardy moon]

there was guy here that used to do 1.4m endmin crushes with ard/lifeng/pog, but it's overall a slower clear than doing chen/lifeng/pog with smaller crushes

[placid helm]

u can basically achieve this with perfect rotation

very perfect

[golden gate]

Da Pan also stacks statuses way faster than Endmin.
His battle skill applies 2 vuln (with pot 6)
His ult applies 2 vuln

So since he applies statuses, he takes better advantage of Aethertech buff

[light blade]

i dont do this "rotations" i just spam the battle and combo skills and wait until the enemy dies

goodnight

[golden gate]

Plus, Da Pan can take better advantage of Pog ult

I think Endmin can only get 1 stack of Pog ult

[light blade]

i just let lifeng and chen do all the vuln stacking

[placid helm]

oh well seems pretty convincing to use Da pan

[golden gate]

The difference is Endmin is a guard, who usually buffs other teammates while also doing personal damage.
Da Pan is a striker, has exclusively selfish buffs

[placid helm]

but hoenstly i dont think i needed him

[placid helm]

u can tell hes VERY selfish

he eats all the food

[golden gate]

Endmin will buff the damage your Chen and Lifeng do

[placid helm]

ya

endmin will make ur team big bazongkas dmg

[golden gate]

Da Pan scales with how well his supports buff
Endmin scales with how much damage your other character's do
Very well designed distinction

[lethal tapir]

This not giving me 14s is a crime

I kept thinking if I could get this rotation just a bit tighter i could hit 14s but if its gonna keep counting a split second after the boss dies I don't know if it'll be possible with this rot.

[noble forum]

do you happen to use panda

[noble forum]

he discovered ardelia

i noticed you were missing a stack of fervent morale in your clip

[golden gate]

Yeah I coulda gotten another one. Pog took 3 of them cause I used his combo skill

[noble forum]

nooo

pog combo steal max

[golden gate]

Also my Ardelia and Lifeng don't have masteries

So their susceptibility isn't as high as it could be

[noble forum]

rip

the most expensive team in the game

[golden gate]

What wep you run on Ardelia?

[noble forum]

stanza

giga attack buff

[golden gate]

Okay same. Chivalric technically can get higher with pots but I don't have them

[noble forum]

phys team doesn't have a deto unit yet so stanza is like the only real option unless 🐋

[golden gate]

Waiting until there's a support option for spears

I actually decided to bite the bullet and pull mountainbearer yesterday

[noble forum]

did you win

[golden gate]

Yeah, took 10k arsenal tickets tho

[noble forum]

gg

[golden gate]

I probably should have either pulled for Rossi sig or saved for whoever is next but what the hell, You can't get standard banner sigs any other way

Until anniversary shows up and watch there be a standard banner wep selector

[noble forum]

pull economy moment

[quasi tiger]

no, you jinxed it!!! they're not gonna giveaway one now

[golden gate]

I'm currently working on getting every weapon's essence. I'm 75% done

Essence grinding is truly the endgame it seems

[placid helm]

nah

its sanity

[quasi tiger]

but what do you spend that sanity on

[placid helm]

but how can u grind essence

[river laurel]

Nuke farming the essence areas with motars 💔

[placid helm]

but how can u put normal essence to a golden one

[river laurel]

Purple essences cannot be turned into gold essences

[placid helm]

thats the point

go read previous messages

[river laurel]

Uh yeah grinding essences by spending sanity

[placid helm]

bingo

[river laurel]

Essence grinding, especially trying to full etch is expensive/time consuming

[placid helm]

yes

[quasi tiger]

well the endgame IS essence grinding by using sanity

you can always spend sanity on other materials, but the other materials you can just get from event rewards
essences- you have to spend sanity else you can't even do anything

i'm getting to a point where i should just wait for more event rewards, else i don't even have characters to use the upgrade materials on
what do i do with 3.43k prism dawg

you gotta be more specific with your "it's sanity" cause that's not even an action

[placid helm]

its an action

u spending sanity

thats the word specifically

spending

[quasi tiger]

ok but like what do you last when you upgrade everybody
at end of the game
it's essences cause the game won't even give you coolant gel as event rewards

[river laurel]

[placid helm]

but how can u get coolant gel if u dont spend sanity on essence that came from fail upgrade

[tardy moon]

2k protohedrons

[river laurel]

You could Purple essences to gel back in the tests but HG removed them because that made farming too easy

[golden gate]

I have now got a perfect essence for every 5star weapon in the game

And the only 6 star wep essences I'm missing are for ones I don't own

Do I even want to do the 4 star weapon essences?

[river laurel]

Why though 💔

[golden gate]

I guess now every time I farm essence, it's just for fodder

[quasi tiger]

Brother I'm just saying you is right, but you gotta be more specific with what you have to do last with that sanity.
You can spend that sanity at the start, middle, or end of the game, but what is at the last priority of how annoying they are to farm?

That last thing is that sanity sink that are essences.

[tiny plinth]

I don't think there's enough operators releasing to ever farm essence for 4* weapons

[placid helm]

no, to be specific... u need sanity in all shits so in the end,,, waiting for that sanity is the end game

[golden gate]

Unfortunately even in the best case scenario for a 4 star weapon to be used, it's still not good.

Lifeng doesn't have a good 5 star option. It's just Chivalric which has Strength while his main stat is Agility.
The 4 star spear has agility, atk, and a lot of atk as a passive. And it's still not worth it

[placid helm]

u said it "end of the game" it connects.. so it is a Endgame

[golden gate]

But now I have Mountain Bearer so now I have even less of a reason to ever equip a 4 star

Does Chivalric Virtues work at full hp?

[quasi tiger]

honestly i just try to collect all of the perfect gold essences i can cause v4 tickets are basically free atp, but yeah it's mostly just fodder
that includes 4* and 3* main-assault essences

it's just a long-term sidequest just to say "i did that" and who knows if a 6* suddenly share an essence with a 5* or 4*

[tardy moon]

yes the skill just has to be able to heal

so it won't work on ardelia

[golden gate]

Realistically I've hit the point where I can just fodder everything now

But I kinda just wanna hit the 68/68 just because

[void warren]

is this the krooster like website for endfield?

[golden gate]

Idk what that is

[void warren]

its a site to share your roster in the OG arknights

[golden gate]

Nah. It's just a checklist and tool that helps with essence farming

[muted current]

Hi, i have been wanting to build a team with Yvonne, last rite, Zhuang and Rossi but don’t know they order to put them or if they will inter act for their assist E skill, do they compliment each other battle style?

[river laurel]

Putting 2 hungry cyro dps, Electric and Physical/fire all in one team ???

[tawny wagon]

ngl that sounds like a team were you press all ults at the start and pray that the enemy doesnt survive it cos your damage will be none existant afterwards

[muted current]

Ok thank you 🤣

[keen spear]

do you have a level 1 challenge acc

[desert garden]

xaihis sig or detonation on this team?

[supple pollen]

Chiv

[steel tendon]

chat is zhuaang fangyi the best one in endfield right now

[pearl surge]

depend on what content you play

for mats, crisis-drills and bossing yes

[golden gate]

Thoughts on this team and rotation?

This build actually uses Finchaser on Alesh, and builds for maximum ult damage while still using frontier set

[young pike]

Where is ianas doc

Its not in the pinned anymore

[raven badger]

Clown‘s is the new one

[river laurel]

Level 1 ?

[static parrot]

Damm soo many di you build only 1 team ?

[runic prawn]

Like this?

[supple pollen]

They quit and hence it's outdated, still pinned in #help and probably #theorycrafting if you want to reference it but just know a lot of it doesn't hold up anymore

[supple pollen]

you might want to have perlica in slot 2, if not fangyi in slot 2 and arclight in slot 1
just to never risk timestop messing up on the fangyi perlica chain

[heavy loom]

Alesh's combo skill "enhanced skill dmg" is that a buff for the whole team or just alesh's damage

[supple pollen]

replacement effect when you get a rare fin

usual multiplier
rare fin multiplier

[calm elbow]

just looking for potential cc team comps for fangyi and rossi with the characters i have atm. laeva, ardelia, akekuri, and wulfgard are all in use
(yes i know cc hasn't been released yet but still)

[supple pollen]

no reason to plan around content that does not exist

class bans, sp restriction tags, res and def values plus a whole host of other conditions could affect teambuilding

[calm elbow]

then general teams

[supple pollen]

Fangyi + Perlica + Flex + Flex
Rossi has a large list of options I cba to write out, pick your preference of phys/arts/shatter or wheelchair her in an existing team

[glass ruin]

@uneven oar it begins

[calm elbow]

i assume this works then. found it online on a random site, so wasn't sure how functional it would actually be

[glass ruin]

it works but u wanna order zhuang perlica arc alesh

[calm elbow]

Does the order matter as much if i use mouse side buttons for swapping rather than keys

[glass ruin]

its for the order of the cs coming out u want zhuangs cs to hit and then immediately perlicas so u get electrication 2 then u can bs for 3 zhuang swords

[calm elbow]

Ah

[supple pollen]

its not about swapping its about combo activation order

the issue is that when you have 3 proccing at the same time potentially (fangyi, arclight and perlica)
the added time to cast arclights might mess with timestop a bit

i havent tested it so cant say, might be fine, would need someone who has tested to comment

normally we want to proc fangyi's then immediately perlicas

due to timestop perlica's will hit first, fangyi's second

[calm elbow]

The combo activation order is based on team order then?

[lethal tapir]

Yes, but the last op to use their combo will always hit first. Regardless of their place in the team order.

[supple pollen]

if they proc at the same time, yes

[calm elbow]

Weird, but aight fair enough

[supple pollen]

fangyi's procs when doing a final strike (or finisher) against an enemy with electric infliction
perlica's is on any final strike

since the general gameplay loop is applying an infliction with perlica's battle skill first, both will proc on the subsequent final strike

order is then dictated by left to right

[lethal tapir]

Its because if you use a combo, time stops for everyone except for the op using the combo. However, if you use another combo, it will override that timestop with the next combo's timestop. So only 1 timestop can be active at a time, which means even if you use 3 combos at the same time, the first 2 timestops get overridden and the 3rd op to use their combo is the one who gets to hit first because of timestop.

[calm elbow]

Oh yeah i get that, just weird it works that way.

[lethal tapir]

I like it, it gives you more control over combo order without having to swap around your teammates to "optimal positions"

[uneven oar]

wait you added me?

i dont remember your IGN

[glass ruin]

hollanov

[uneven oar]

oooooooh

[junior pier]

cant flex if p0

either has something to kill enemy fast enough or regen your sp more for more comfy rotation

cant skip the thundaaaa

tho i bet dev will release something with crazy sp regenerator

[supple pollen]

what

flex as in flexible

you got that right its a bit

[junior pier]

its not flexible with fangyi due to her high sp consumption rate

unless u fighting weak enemies like rhoda

[supple pollen]

what are you talking about

[junior pier]

thats what im talking about what about you

[supple pollen]

???

truly i question what goes through some peoples minds

[junior pier]

she cant flex her team unless u unlock her potential

she practically stuck with sp recovery allies

[supple pollen]

this just is not true but okay

[junior pier]

[supple pollen]

i dont have the energy to argue a nothingburger take

[junior pier]

holyshit...

we still arguing over fangyi sp consumption rate lmao

maaaan probably these rhoda speedrunner

[acoustic quartz]

whose team is stronger? fangyi or laevatain?

from a general view

[supple pollen]

it depends

it can go either way

[dry glade]

am i weird for prefering to use tangtang as the controlled operator instead of last rite? cause last rite's slower attacks feel clunkier and harder to get to the final attack that way? i understand i'm not buffing last rite with xaihi's skill that way tho

[supple pollen]

if you want the answer most people will give, not necessarily the correct one, fangyi

[supple pollen]

if it feels better who cares, unless you're short on damage

[digital pendant]

i hope for some large mob content for laev, she suffers in single target

[acoustic quartz]

need more triaggelos aggeloi spam

[winged mesa]

she definitely does not but ok

[digital pendant]

she does fine in single target, but was clearly designed for large groups

[winged mesa]

with her numbers she works just as well in single target scenarios

[digital pendant]

right, but she works better in large groups. that's my point

[feral wraith]

she just needs a good fire support frfr

[dry glade]

yeah, there's nothing really stating last rite has to be the controlled operator, yes it would be slighly more damage, but i don't think it's something i would be able to tell personally, sometimes i felt like i missed with the final attack with last rite

[lethal tapir]

Also a better set than hotworks

[dry glade]

can i have a fire tangtang? o_o

[lethal tapir]

If Lae had a set as good as Fangyi's set she would be so much better. Hotworks only procs after using her EBS though which is weird

And it also gives AI as the set bonus

[feral wraith]

It will be fire Lifeng that makes a domain that inflicts Heat every 3 seconds

[winged mesa]

your earlier point was that she suffers in single target scenarios, in which she doesnt. and most of mob content in the game is just stupid easy that the one thing that makes it a lot easier is gilberta

[digital pendant]

I guess suffer was the wrong word, but she is clearly designed for large group content, of which there is basically none

[feral wraith]

das Umbral bro

[digital pendant]

kind of, but not really

[winged mesa]

only umbral1 has mob content

and they were like, 5x easier than the boss contents

not like the boss content were any hard

[dry glade]

that sounds insane, akekuri does pretty well rn in applying heat to multiple targets, but we don't have anyone that's good at applying to a single target, the team feels slow when there is only one or two enemies on the field

[winged mesa]

me when wulfgard

[worthy estuary]

Wulfgard literally 3 heat stacks in 100 sp

Hell, lae can do 4 stacks without using any sp

She eats them all though

Actually is somebody complaining lae st capability

Are we serious

Uh, if you do believe you lack st capability, use lae wulf rossi gil

Rossi will solve whatever st issue you encounter.

Though you will soon realize, anything that does aoe can do st, but not all st can do aoe

[pearl surge]

3 heat stack in 100sp?

[worthy estuary]

St is the basics. Aoe is the luxury

[lethal tapir]

When his ult is available

[dry glade]

that requires his combo skill hitting two targets after

[worthy estuary]

Nope. Just bs > combo > ult > combo

[pearl surge]

so cs > ult > bs > cs, but to trigger the first cs, you need 100sp

[winged mesa]

no, just requires p5 and ult

[worthy estuary]

His combo has delay between activation and actually hitting

[pearl surge]

can ult trigger combo?

[winged mesa]

bs cs ult cs

no the cs triggers the cs again

[lethal tapir]

If you ult after using his combo before the combo hits it resets his combo cd and then procs his combo again with the prior combo trigger

[dry glade]

only requires 100 sp and ult then

[pearl surge]

lol the cs trigger cs again, is novel idea that i never thought

[worthy estuary]

So if his ult land before his combo lands, his combo cd resets and he trigger his combo using his combo

[worthy estuary]

He always have his ult ready after 20 seconds. Only takes 2 bs

[pearl surge]

the time frame is so tight

[worthy estuary]

Not really, its around the same as a perfect dodge window

If you see his model backflips, time to ult

Around half a second window. Plenty of time

[dry glade]

maybe i suck for not using ultimate gain on him, i haven't even thought about his equipment in forever x_x

[worthy estuary]

Thats why his bis is obj gun

And he uses uge set

He sucks as a sub dps. Supporter be like

[topaz moon]

Can someone tell me how bad is my luck to not have a singular copy of that gun because what

[worthy estuary]

Its free

From node reward

[topaz moon]

Guess who's the dumbass that accidentally burned it (it's me)

[dry glade]

what set is that?

[topaz moon]

Welp, gotta wait for the next reset

[worthy estuary]

Redeemer chest, double jade, xira glove

No set, just uge

[winged mesa]

double redeemer seal

[worthy estuary]

I wonder if i can put in the new frontier on him

[winged mesa]

not enough

[dry glade]

i have no idea what that stands for

[winged mesa]

uktimate gain efficiency

[topaz moon]

Ultimate Gain Efficiency

[dry glade]

aaah

[supple pollen]

you can minmax the set pieces more if you dont intend to share

[worthy estuary]

Shouldnt share to begin with

[winged mesa]

as in?

[supple pollen]

better attributes

[worthy estuary]

You get enough catalyst

[winged mesa]

oh

[topaz moon]

Managed to get Lae to 5.8k ATK

Guess I gotta work on Wulf now

[worthy estuary]

Just make him have more than +130% uge

Eh, lets see if other guns have uge

[supple pollen]

132 / 141 are the goals

[winged mesa]

232.8 if p0 laev
241.6(?) if p1 laev

[dry glade]

my lae is 6,4k attack :>>, well i am running lynx slab and was only leveling up her in version 1

[topaz moon]

How tf

[winged mesa]

obj gun +4 uge
redeemer seal x2
lynx glove
redeemer armor

artifice the gears uge

[dry glade]

a whole lot of intellect and maxed out weapon

[bold sable]

does lynx slab prob on zfy when she heals herself ?

[dry glade]

851 intellect

[winged mesa]

and if you run gilberta theres also +7(12)%

[topaz moon]

No wonder

Only managed to get her 752 Int

[winged mesa]

lynx slab has nothing that helps fangyi heal

[dry glade]

how is your weapon looking? maxed?

[feral wraith]

It's a set for P4 Laev, not really worth using unless whale imo

[bold sable]

so people only use it for the main attribute buff ?

[winged mesa]

well yeah

[topaz moon]

Maxed, not full pot tho

[dry glade]

i like big numbers :p

[topaz moon]

P2 Lae as well

Gotta save up for the rerun then lol

[dry glade]

big attack number might not be stronger for my p0 laev, but it sure as hell makes me feel stronger xd

[worthy estuary]

Is zfy one of those team comp where placement matters?

Seems like i should proc perli combo before zfy combo?

Since i want to do 2 electrification stacks for zfy bs

[supple pollen]

you can proc perlicas and then wait to proc fangyis

but most people will slot fangyi first, then perlica second

proccing them back to back lets perlica's hit first due to timestop

[topaz moon]

Still keeping Redeemer so I can get Ult in 2-3 enhanced bs but if I got her to P4 by the rerun I'm going to laugh until I cry fr

[feral wraith]

Nope, you can do either way, but if you put Fangyi in number 2 slot, you have to wait for Perlica's CS to land first (around 1~2 secs)

[delicate flint]

does team placement affect the combo skill activation?

[supple pollen]

when they proc off the same instance, yes

if the same instance procs multiple they will occur left to right

[feral wraith]

It's because skills will perform a time stop when activate, and the current one will override the first one

[full sleet]

whats the best essence for laevatain?

[feral wraith]

Depends on weapon

[supple pollen]

the one that matches the weapon you put on her

essences are per weapon, not per character

[full sleet]

im using umbral

[feral wraith]

farm it here

[worthy estuary]

Idk why but my sunderblades aint stacking

Its just stuck at 2

[winged mesa]

sunderblades without electrification can only stack up to 3

dont rly know how yours is stuck at 2, providing a clip might help

[worthy estuary]

Hold on. If time stop gets override by another combo, does that mean arclight combo would override perlica combo, which makes zfy combo lands first?

[winged mesa]

yes

[worthy estuary]

Ah...

Aight

[wise dock]

@winged mesa nice trade secret
i knew it

[worthy estuary]

And avywena combo would make things even worse

[wise dock]

u was using foods

[dry glade]

i like fangyi, but i do think i prefer tang tang + last rite's team, i feel like i have to think too much with fangyi and it felt hard to time dodges during ult, maybe cause of the effect clutter i'm not as great at seeing when to dodge

[winged mesa]

honestly the better question would be, how are you proccing arc cs

[worthy estuary]

Ok i figured it out. Avy slot 1 it is

[winged mesa]

my atk is twice more than yours though

[worthy estuary]

I spammed zfy > perli > avy combos

[wise dock]

haven't maxed gears yet

[worthy estuary]

Avy is screwing them over

[winged mesa]

food is still not the trade secret i indeed do use jakub

[wise dock]

[winged mesa]

gatekeeping is kinda funny i need to gatekeep more

[wise dock]

time to figure more

[worthy estuary]

Slab, stanza, clannibal

What else

Endmin repute

[supple pollen]

gear swapping

tp point attack buff

etc etc etc

[worthy estuary]

Wuling passive buff

[supple pollen]

its pretty easy to inflate attack numbers for screenshots

[winged mesa]

i mean im sure shuo knows but i kinda wanna see people try to figure this out more lol

[supple pollen]

there's the what

25k lifeng or whatever

might be higher now

[winged mesa]

best ive seen on bili was like 21k pog

though that was like week2 of the game

[supple pollen]

p3+ lifeng w/ p5 mb gets a decent ways higher

[winged mesa]

oh yeah mb does give attribute huh

[worthy estuary]

Still waiting on 1200 int xaihi

[winged mesa]

alrd exists p sure

just need high dreams pot

[supple pollen]

you just pivot through like

3-4 polearms that all have attack buffs

mb chimeric aggelo

[winged mesa]

lol

[supple pollen]

and then like pathfinders has the most passive atk%

[wise dock]

9k

how interesting

[supple pollen]

30-40k prob isnt unrealistic if you do it perfect

awkward to align buff timers

[livid mirage]

Is gilberta worth getting in rerun

If neither of my twk teams rn need her?

[supple pollen]

if you want her get her
if you dont want her dont get her

its that simple

[feral wraith]

Do you have Laev or Pog

[livid mirage]

I have pog

[pearl surge]

full dps pog lol

[feral wraith]

50% out, skip it

it's a bait

[livid mirage]

I like laev more lmao
Her design is mid

[full sleet]

does the place even matter?

[feral wraith]

Not really if you're farming for a single perfect essence

[worthy estuary]

Gilberta is everywhere and nowhere at the same time. If you want your yvonne or rossi to work, gilberta is a must have

[feral wraith]

Wuling is more preferred though, since you get Wuling stock bills

[worthy estuary]

But like... neither zfy nor laevatain use gilberta

[livid mirage]

I was just wondering if she is a must pull support for future teams

I run zhuang and physical
They don't need gilberta

[wise dock]

really interesting

[worthy estuary]

Im sure she will be used in future teams

But like, you dont need her rn

[feral wraith]

She's currently futureproof.
As she had been the best buffer for Arts team

[livid mirage]

I am like
What are the odds
They won't drop a better support

[worthy estuary]

And im sure you will figure somethinh out to replace her at some point

[wise dock]

31s away from trimming

[full sleet]

how to pre engrave heat dmg and infliction at the same time?

[livid mirage]

"Best buffer"
Laev and zfy don't want her

[uneven oar]

...what team are you trimming with? solo ember ?

[winged mesa]

you havent trimmed

[supple pollen]

you dont, you pick one and have to get lucky for the other

[winged mesa]

45k shield 300 damage

[worthy estuary]

Lae has ardelia. Zfy doesnt need buffers

[wise dock]

horrible combination of ember pog fangyi lifeng

[worthy estuary]

Both of them are sustained dps over burst

[feral wraith]

Laev and ZFY do use Gilb, just for speedkills

[uneven oar]

w-where's the dps, also wtf is fangyi doing there

[winged mesa]

fangyi

[uneven oar]

[wise dock]

theres the dps

[livid mirage]

Zfy kills fast enuf for not needing a speedkiller

[acoustic edge]

Who are we talking abt?

[wise dock]

pog and fangyi

[uneven oar]

oh my god

[livid mirage]

Gilberta

[winged mesa]

gil lol

[worthy estuary]

Physical ZFY is in my bingo card

[wise dock]

a thousand wills

[worthy estuary]

Btw ember can solo trim

[acoustic edge]

Gilb isn't a much have for either

But zfy works well with gilb

And laev also has comps with gilb

[winged mesa]

i mean so does laev

[worthy estuary]

I dont recommend unless you either speedrunning or using lae rossi variant

[acoustic edge]

Yeah funi antal gilb laev

[wise dock]

16k shield is quite cracked for me
tanked rhod's big fart

[full sleet]

which attribute stats do i choose on umbral besides intellect?

[winged mesa]

gil is also not a must have for lr, yet she works just as well with lr
of course with a bit of caveat

[winged mesa]

just pick intellect + 2 random

[supple pollen]

try an online essence solver to see what other weapons you can chase

[winged mesa]

the engraving just help you to narrow down your drop

[acoustic edge]

Gilb is just generally good

[worthy estuary]

She is good. But not essential

Outside... yvonne

[uneven oar]

gilb in a phys team

[feral wraith]

Gilb is only not used on Physical team, which says a lot about her

[worthy estuary]

Team doesnt break if youre missing gil. She can always be replaced

Imagine lae team without wulf. Or cryo team without xaihi

Zfy without perli

Horror beyond comprehension

[livid mirage]

She works on every team as "i am 2% better and i am cute"

Thats why i don't know if i want to spend 120 pulls

[worthy estuary]

I would personally wait for future banners announcement first

Its a 25% chance of getting what you want. Lae p1 is decent though

[livid mirage]

We don't know what the bird girl will be yet

[worthy estuary]

Next is mifu, probably physical

[livid mirage]

I don't have lae

[worthy estuary]

Lae is gud then. So its a 50 50

[livid mirage]

I will skip mifu and the guy
Don't like them

[worthy estuary]

sui proxy girl then?

[junior pier]

UNLESS, mifu is a *6 sp regenerator and elec infliction in one package

[worthy estuary]

A 6* electric akekuri

[junior pier]

trust

[topaz moon]

Should I aim for LR sig since I got Tangtang + sig or should I get Pog sig and Rossi sig?

[winged mesa]

it just sounds like you dont even want her, why are we even having this discussion lol

[acoustic edge]

Real

[winged mesa]

youre trying so hard to say that she doesnt belong in your roster and it is as simple as that to just not pull

[worthy estuary]

Uh... LR sig is a must but its perma. Rossi sig is great, and its limited

Pog sig sucks.

[topaz moon]

I haven't gotten that 6* sword lol

What's the name

[worthy estuary]

Thermite?

[topaz moon]

Yes

[acoustic edge]

Rossi bp weap is pretty good for a bp

[topaz moon]

That one

[junior pier]

then make tangtang as mdps

its more easy to build things around tang2

hail soup2

[topaz moon]

I need to stop pulling because all I got is either MDPS or SubDPS

[junior pier]

[topaz moon]

Lel

[worthy estuary]

The game gave enough support to support you for a lifetime

Game isnt hard enough for us to minmax supporters

[winged mesa]

well we had like... 1... support banner...

[junior pier]

tho i can say both rossi and soup2 probably close to what ideal subdps looks like

[topaz moon]

Yeah, crazy work for Rossi as well

Managed to get the 200s Medal for Nefarith with Endmin + Rossi

It's still a pain though

[junior pier]

mifu trust

[worthy estuary]

Rossi is terrible as a subdps

She is so hard to make use of

[dry glade]

i haven't gotten far enough in the story for the Nefarith fight yet, i wonder how my tang2 and LR team will do

[topaz moon]

Genuine pain

Like she moves around a lot

[worthy estuary]

My shitty zfy team that has no thought put to her build managed to do nefarith in 4 minutes. The fight is easier than triagellos

[topaz moon]

Frankly yeah

[dry glade]

on trig i have 276 seconds, tbh i didn't fight it that many times tho

[topaz moon]

I never want to try hard for her medal again

Once is enough lol

[worthy estuary]

I rather farm nefarith than that triangle

[topaz moon]

Seriously

3 phases that we can't even bypass

[worthy estuary]

The fight is fun though

[dry glade]

me sitting there looking at trig just being invulnearable and going into its next phase for the millionth time

[topaz moon]

Endmin Rossi Ake Pog, the idea is just get enough SP to apply Fire infliction and Rossi BS+CS before triggering Crush

[dry glade]

for the marble boss i just dislike the first four enemies, they can fuck right off

[worthy estuary]

Physical rossi, being lifeng and chen merged together

[topaz moon]

Rossi is self sufficient as hell, so I don't find the need to focus on buffing her

Her buff from ECS is enough to get her Ult to crit

[worthy estuary]

Rossi gil ult
Combo spam + lae bs
Lae ult
Lae ult

Sub 1 minute kill on all 4

[slender ore]

rossina

[worthy estuary]

Core gets obliterated by finisher, lae ebs, and combo spam

[topaz moon]

Damn now I gotta try Lae Rossi

[dry glade]

i dunno how to do sub 1 min on my cryo team, my best run was like 1:40 for the first part, i would only have to shave 13 seconds off that for the trim, second part is just waaaaay easier

[topaz moon]

Like fr

Fuck those mobs

[dry glade]

i can do it with prob a few more tries, i just don't look forward to optimizing fighting those mobs

[full glade]

What is last rite team? I don’t have single 6 stars event characters,just one

[rare kettle]

Lr team is her, gilb, tt, xaihi

But since u dont have those, id probably do lr, perlica, xaihi, alesh

[dry glade]

i use tang tang, last rite, xaihi and fluorite, but there's other setups too

i don't have gilb :/

[rare kettle]

Gilb skipper

Its tradition

[winged mesa]

we forgetting ardel 🗣️

alesh doesnt have a spot in lr teams
lr/xaihi/perlica/ardel is the standard non pulled 6* team

[rare kettle]

Amnesia roleplay like mc 🗣️

[dry glade]

i was a leav enjoyer, gilb didn't seem to fit in that team and i didn't have that much saved up after spending like 70 pulls for leav

[worthy estuary]

Gil sucks

Trust

[winged mesa]

what the hell are you doing to only have little pulls after 70 pulls

i did 120 pulls on laev and managed to get 80 more pulls to get gilb

[rare kettle]

Yea
Her bs sucks into 1 point

[dry glade]

i was enjoying the first area a lot, took me a while to get to wuling

[worthy estuary]

If only theyre willing to do yvonne tt lr ember jo banner

[rare kettle]

[worthy estuary]

Understandable

[dry glade]

at that point gil didn't feel like a "must pull" so i didn't bother playing a whole lot, i was just kinda chilling being happy building my leav and curious to see what next version had in store

[long shell]

i wonder if this is good enough or not

[rare kettle]

No p5 = bad

[long shell]

cuz i still have to use food for nuking

[dry glade]

so close to p5 o_o

[junior pier]

suboptimal rossi team

bring her brother

[topaz moon]

Her brother is the reason she's suboptimal lol

Jk, my timing is still a bit off with him for Rossi

[dry glade]

what should my priority be for what i focus on? tangtangs essense is 3-4-1, LR is 6-6-2, do i max out LR combo skill, then what?

[topaz moon]

Should max the 3rd stat for Tangtang Essence

[rare kettle]

Doesnt p1 tt not run qingbo

But below does

[waxen crag]

arts intensity or physical dmg bonus on endmin?

[lethal tapir]

You’re right, p1 TT should still be using Bonekrusha. She doesn’t need to cooldown reduction.

[dry glade]

oh :/

[topaz moon]

Arts intensity for crush trigger

[livid mirage]

Question is does she belong in future teams

Is she like sunday of hsr?

[worthy estuary]

She will

[livid mirage]

[worthy estuary]

But she wont be an essential part

Nice to have but not a must

[livid mirage]

So not sunday?

[dry glade]

kinda already upgraded the qingbo, so sucks for me i guess, i think i wanna keep the set

[rare kettle]

Dont bring hsr shit

[livid mirage]

Its a benchmark
Sunday is the benchmark for supports in gacha

[lethal tapir]

Makes your p1 pointless, but your call.

[worthy estuary]

The reason why she isnt used in zfy or lae team is both main dps spreads damage for over 5 seconds.

Gil doesnt work for physical

So... yeah you hit the exceptions

[rare kettle]

Gilb makes several teams better
Shes important and very good rn and will be for future until everyone will habe premium supports

[worthy estuary]

But for any burst comp, she is amazing

[rare kettle]

No hes not, get yoir brainrot out

[lethal tapir]

She is used in ZFY and Lae teams though…

[worthy estuary]

Lae only on burst setup or rossi slot in

[rare kettle]

What is bro larping

[dry glade]

it doesn't? cdr is still cdr, i guess it becomes less useful the more you have of it tho

[worthy estuary]

Zfy i see more alesh than gil for now. Akekuri can be slot in. I use avywena

[lethal tapir]

No, she’s Lae’s BiS team in burst setups, but people still use her outside of that too.

[worthy estuary]

She sucks... like she has no reason to be in lae team outside burst

[lethal tapir]

If you can find a rotation that makes use of that extra cdr let me know

[worthy estuary]

Lae aoe is already stupid big. Her glutton for heat stacks would be screwed by gil nature stacks.

[lethal tapir]

That’s a terrible opinion, 33% susc for 0sp will always be good, even if it’s only 5 seconds. People like you get too hung up on the 5 second timer and neglect all the OP things Gil brings to the table.

[rare kettle]

If youre dumb, yes

[worthy estuary]

More trouble than its worth

Why do i want a 33% suscep for 5 seconds over 20% suscep for 30s

And ardelia chains to lae combo

[lethal tapir]

Because 0 sp

Vs 100sp

It’s literally not that hard to comprehend

[worthy estuary]

Sure i have to cast it once at the beginning

I have the sp to do so

[lethal tapir]

It’s clear you just don’t like Gil, but saying she doesn’t belong in Lae and ZFY teams is just wrong

[worthy estuary]

I use gil now in lae rossi team because it makes sense

Pure lae, gil isnt that great

[rare kettle]

[lethal tapir]

This is pointless

[topaz moon]

Gil is basically just the argument of "I have enough investment to delete the boss before it can hit me" and "I play casual and would prefer not thinking too hard about anything else"

[rare kettle]

Confident and wrong
The worst combination

[dry glade]

thanks? it isn't gonna be very resource efficient to go back to the other gear set that isn't upgraded and what i'm mostly interested in is what to use my sanity on to upgrade

[worthy estuary]

Mate i tested it myself. Literally didnt look up guide when making my own lae team

Lae wulf ake ardel just the perfect circle for now

[rare kettle]

They u did bad tests

[lethal tapir]

Yea but I bet your Lae team can’t speed skill

[worthy estuary]

Yeah she cant. I would have to bring lae antal gil ardel for that

[rare kettle]

Laeva biggest dmg is from her ult ebs
Guess who buffs that the most

[lethal tapir]

You probably just blame it on Lae, or that you’re not trying, but if that’s the case then your “tests” are meaningless.

[lethal tapir]

Could do it with Ake too, doesn’t have to be Antal

[worthy estuary]

Buff her ebs once with gil, or thrice with ardel

[lethal tapir]

Everything dies in 1 ebs though

Literally even Nef

[worthy estuary]

You do you

I like playing sustained

[lethal tapir]

Yea, that’s fine. Like I said, it’s clear that you don’t like Gil. But saying she “doesn’t belong in ZFY and Lae teams” is just wrong, so I’m going to correct that. This whole argument because you don’t like Gil has been so beyond pointless.

[winged mesa]

ionno man im not some fortune teller

what the future holds is beyond me

[dry glade]

......so like what do i use my sanity on in my two characters?

or do i go to the help text channel for this?

[lethal tapir]

I mean, it’s up to preference I guess. Personally I’d get essences to 6/6/3, then get their important skills to m3. Some might opt to do that in a different order though 🤷‍♂️

[worthy estuary]

Ok how do you deal with corrosion?

How do you handle her ult nature stack

[dry glade]

time to mortar some enemies then while i watch from a hill then

[lethal tapir]

What do you mean “how do you deal with corrosion?”

You use it to proc corrosion…

[nova elk]

im trying to make Z7 team, my current team is Estella(DPS), Catcher(Sub), Akekuri(Battery,Applicator), Antal (Healer), should i replace someone with fluorite or should i change their roles

[lethal tapir]

lol ffs do you not even know what corrosion does?

No wonder you have such a hate-on for Gil

[worthy estuary]

So you need to do lae n4 before gil ult?

[junior pier]

well i do put gilberta... for farming

[worthy estuary]

Lae aoe is too big

[lethal tapir]

Well, you can either Lae n4 before Gil ult to proc corrosion, or you can Gil ult before Lae n4 to proc combustion for Hotworks before Lae’s ebs. Both are good, and end up giving Lae around the same dmg boost honestly.

[worthy estuary]

Combustion would block wulfgard which is an issue for me

[lethal tapir]

What do you mean “block Wulfgard” how else are you proccing hotworks?

[worthy estuary]

Wulf ult?

[lethal tapir]

This is why Wulfgard sucks fr, I can’t believe you’d avoid proccing hotworks so you can use his ult

[junior pier]

im not thinking too much about her if not in burst composition, or in a fight that i confident i could do it less than 2 or 3 rotation

[worthy estuary]

I mean you can try using lae without wulf if you want to

But that goes back to burst team

[lethal tapir]

I literally do, and I succeed in everything

No, Lae-Ake-Antal-Ardelia is still her best team for extended content and that will remain my opinion till I see someone clear Nef with Wulf in under 1:30 (no Rossi though cuz I don’t have her to compare)

[junior pier]

i speculate that nature dps would be burst oriented

something2 like soup2

[lethal tapir]

I’ve tried running Wulf and he adds 20 seconds to the timer at best, if someone can prove me wrong I’ll shut up forever about Wulfgard, but nobody has yet.

[indigo swan]

Which gear pieces in particular should I use on arclight in zfy teams? I am currently running frontier protection suit, frontier fiber gloves, frontier comm, and redeemer seal

[zealous orbit]

it's on clown's doc in pins

[lethal tapir]

[zealous orbit]

xiranflow and one slab

[tepid flame]

stupid question but does increasing will on pog increase his breach dmg?

[lethal tapir]

I’m pretty sure it’s just AI that increase breach, but a phys main can correct me if I’m wrong

[indigo swan]

this doesn't actually say which pieces in particular

[lethal tapir]

Weird how it’s blacked out, it’s the UGE chest and the pink o2 tube

[wet moat]

just slap frontier set with off piece seal

[tardy moon]

the images keep breaking for everyone

[indigo swan]

pink o2 - so the o2 t1? is int that important on support arclight?

[lethal tapir]

No, it’s not, but it is important outside of Fangyi teams so if you’re gonna craft something for her and it doesn’t matter which, might as well craft the right one in case you ever swap her onto teams where it doesn’t matter.

If you have some of the old o2 tubes already crafted though you can just slap one of those on and call it a day

[sacred mica]

Refresh

[indigo swan]

all fixed, thank you

[sacred mica]

It's a web issue. Cos clown's pic isn't inside of the cell. But instead an overlay, that happens

[indigo swan]

👍

[tardy moon]

rossiless laev speedkills are somehow slower than phys now she's at 79s for 0+0

on nef

[lethal tapir]

On Nef?

[indigo swan]

got it, this makes sense, thank you

[dry glade]

oh, actually i can switch off the qingbo armor set for tangtang since i can keep the chest armor, the gloves actually was barely leveled up, so it's just the kits that are a bit behind

[tardy moon]

rossi was secretly a laev upscale

[sacred mica]

Woah... She fell off that bad?

[tardy moon]

tbf laev was never at the top for speedkills

[wet moat]

no critfish surtr?

[lethal tapir]

Wait do you have the vid for this 79s speed kill?

[tardy moon]

【【"全网最速"】 什么叫首个七开？0+1莱万汀79秒 聂菲斯Any% 无伤速通】 https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1BrR7BSEGq/?share_source=copy_web&vd_source=88856b5af85ca36f97c236b1dd16c1bb

[tardy moon]

doesn't look like it

[wet moat]

[tardy moon]

at least i hope it's not

[wet moat]

then just w8 surtr gingseng .16^8

[tardy moon]

[zealous orbit]

laev is so slow why did i ever believe it when they said she's the dps ceiling

[tardy moon]

yeah def hotworks they're barely critting

[lethal tapir]

Well to be fair, hotworks is pretty bad compared to some of the sets new dps are getting, but nothing else really works on her either.

[wet moat]

make sense lol, should've gone to crit surtr

[wet moat]

hw better on pog

[tardy moon]

screw crit

[lethal tapir]

Straight up, like it gives AI as a set bonus. How’s that help Lae? With the DoT on her combustion?

[zealous orbit]

hopefully the new guy will make combustion broken

[winged mesa]

yk you can just see the buffs list to know if its hw or mi set..

[tardy moon]

man it's 5 am

[winged mesa]

idk man wake up better

[tardy moon]

i was gonna go on a run

[lethal tapir]

Honestly considering that hotworks usually procs AFTER Lae’s ebs, it feels like it was actually designed to make her combustion DoT stronger lmao

[tardy moon]

dot meta

[winged mesa]

a little doomscroll before going to a run

hw just need to have a longer duration tbh

10s just aint it chief

[lethal tapir]

That’s true too, cuz it procs after your ebs and runs out before your next ebs lol

[tardy moon]

my tl is all magnet and cpk blessed

[winged mesa]

good

ever since the announcement yo this day my tl is all magnet cos

[tardy moon]

occasional adashima. amazing

[winged mesa]

adashima in 2026??

[tardy moon]

peak

and in 2027 and 2028 and

[wet moat]

oh yeah, surtr end up getting new rot on ak

[winged mesa]

well i mean with wulf you can kinda get it up again

[tardy moon]

[wet moat]

surtr exualter kalsit alter

infinite s3