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[tidal anchor]

If you do get it, get the adjustable stock, and carbon fiber tubes if you plan for playing more than a couple hrs at a time. About half the weight

[eager portal]

dam. well they hide the normal version until u look into the search. in the gunstock catalog its only the streamer one. scam is real

[eager portal]

well i did hear a lot about it and it does seem really good. also very quick delivery so i might. but where can i find adjustable stock and fiber tubes

shoulder stock?

mk2 adjustable u mean?

[tidal anchor]

Yes, and there should be a dropfown for CF

The armature

[eager portal]

i dont see any options

only sling and shoulder stock

[tidal anchor]

Some other similar ones

[eager portal]

oh what does it make a difference on

[strong plover]

anyone has good suggestions for a physical gunstock? and i also have a few questions

[tidal anchor]

Weight mostly. CF is about 50% lighter. Also the chrome can slip from what ive been told

The one on the right is CF

[eager portal]

cf looks much better anyways

[tidal anchor]

Ye

[eager portal]

wwhats the diff on the sling?

[tidal anchor]

Personal pref.

[eager portal]

its like 4bucks diff so basically

[tidal anchor]

One has less in the way but can flip around. 2 keeps the stock in place but can get snagged, so up to you

I usually get a 2 point and just connect the other end part way up for a 1 point at times

[eager portal]

hm

[eager portal]

sounds like a good idea lol

[tidal anchor]

Yeah, i have an old 2 point sling with bungee at the end so its not a problem

Dont use sling as much nowadays tho, ive made modifications to some of my stocks to have a magnetic waist holster

[eager portal]

wdym

a belt?

[tidal anchor]

Like this on a few of my stocks

[eager portal]

ohh so like a strap around u with a magnet on it?

[tidal anchor]

The one im using in this vid is the onestock, no magnetic controller cups. Its all free hand. If you were to use a holster you could just let go and drop the stock

[tidal anchor]

Ye

[eager portal]

cool

[tidal anchor]

I like to personalize my stocks

[eager portal]

idk man. how do yall decide

theres so many options

and i wanna get my moneys worth

[tidal anchor]

Forcetube is kne you'd get your moneys worth, since looting is your priority, you can always detctch the magnets and freehand.

[eager portal]

protube?

[eager portal]

it isnt my priority. but its a big deal

since am gonna use it a lot on tabor

[tidal anchor]

Then yeah you'll be fine with it, a lot of ppl here use it

[eager portal]

ye am just thinking cus its like 200$

[tidal anchor]

Magnets are fckin strong tho, so you may want to cover them with a tape

[eager portal]

i can afford it but i dont want to throw 200

[eager portal]

alr

[tidal anchor]

The white stock sale is still going on

[eager portal]

wdym

[tidal anchor]

30%off

[eager portal]

huh what 30%

where?

[tidal anchor]

CF, mk2 stock and sling for 130

[eager portal]

what wth

where is that

[eager portal]

where did u find the 30% off

[eager portal]

oh 15 hours

it is for white but it is also like 50$

[tidal anchor]

Yeah its only for the white parts

Would also recommend getting the grips

They fit Q2, but you should be fine if you upgrade to 3. Q2 controllers are slightly bigger at the base. So you should be able to fit a 3 and tighten with some grip tape/foam

[tidal anchor]

Just throw out the questions, others would be able to answer them.

[eager portal]

hard choice

idk if to buy magtube

and if to buy the white. since its like 70 bucks off its a really good deal

its only the cups and the shoulder stock tho

[tidal anchor]

70off is a good deal yeah. Thats enough to buy some other stocks

[eager portal]

really good deal

instead of like 203 its 130

[tidal anchor]

Well you got a day to think about it

[eager portal]

am tryna find pictures to see how it looks

[tidal anchor]

Watch some vids

[eager portal]

ye i cant buy it rn anyway since am 15 and my moms sleepin

[tidal anchor]

👍

[eager portal]

ye there isnt any

[tidal anchor]

On tbe stock?

[eager portal]

tryna find specificly the colors i wanna compare

[tidal anchor]

Ah, lees tech room has one in white, but with the chrome tube

And most others use black, gray, or red

[eager portal]

i see.

well it doesnt look bad

[tidal anchor]

But i feel 70 outweighs the color diff. Especially since you wont even be seeing it when you play

[eager portal]

ye

and its not like its bad compared to it

like personaly i like black. but there isnt much of a diff,

[tidal anchor]

Could always spray paint it

[eager portal]

also i think ur website is bugged. or mine is cus for me it shows 15 hours left

[tidal anchor]

Its just plastic

[eager portal]

ig

[strong plover]

1. how do i take out the controller to change mags.
2. how do i set it up/put my controllers on and off
   3.do i have to pair it? dumb question ik
   4.is there 2 in 1 (ex. handgun and ar in one gunstock)

[tidal anchor]

1. Depends on the stock, some are free hand with a brace, others are magnetic.

2. Depends on the stock, some use cups, some are free hand, most are primary hand hard connected, others use magnets that attach and detatch.

3. No, unless you're using a haptic stock

4. Some have paddles for pistols, some have magnet mounts next to the primary hand, some have removable controllers to 2 hand.

[strong plover]

thanks. any recommendations?

[eager portal]

on the magtube btw. whats magnetic in it?

[tidal anchor]

The controller cups

[eager portal]

they go on the controller and come off with it?

[tidal anchor]

Depends, do you want the pistol mount? Nkt all have it

[strong plover]

rifle, i use them more

[tidal anchor]

Theres a magnet on the controller and a magnet mount on the stock

Just flick the controller and it detaches

[eager portal]

is it comfortable? like to remove and reattach

oh

are both controllers attached btw

[tidal anchor]

Its very strong, so i would recommend putting some grip tape over it

Yes both are

Or a thin piece of foam 1mm

[strong plover]

do the straps still work ?

[eager portal]

wont it block from it going on the gunstock?

[tidal anchor]

Not really, the foam will compress. Like i said its a REALLY strong magnet. So much so that its broken at times

[eager portal]

the magnet broke?..

[tidal anchor]

Or just tape it like mine

The cup

[eager portal]

wtf

[tidal anchor]

Straps are connected to the cup mount

The tape is enough

[tidal anchor]

Whats your budget

[blazing carbon]

Is there a good gunstock that's like 60 or under?

[strong plover]

budget doesnt really matter

[tidal anchor]

Prefer magnet cups and holster, arm/wrist brace, or fixed primary hand and magnetic offhand.

Or no magnets at all, and easy freehand

[strong plover]

magnet

[eager portal]

am curious. u helped me so much but what do u like? like whats ur main gunstock

[strong plover]

actually, fixed primary and magnetic offhand

[tidal anchor]

Ok then the skol butcher or tomahawk,

astreus with magnet mount,

the armory R1 is an option, non magnetic but does have a shotgun pump.

This is the tomahawk

[strong plover]

i dont want the shotgun pump, i feel like itll just be more uncomfortable

i mean, i dont think shotguns are for me in vr, especially in ghosts of tabor. thats what i mean

[tidal anchor]

Shotgun stocks always have a lock on it, so its not a problem. If anything most people use them to adjust the length of the stock for certain guns

[blazing carbon]

Whats the asteus

[tidal anchor]

Its similar to the ultistock. Made up of joints and has multiple configurations. Magnetc, cup, brace, cheek riser, full stock, etc. Its on etsy

[strong plover]

tysm

[tidal anchor]

Ofc

[blazing carbon]

OK

[blazing carbon]

Do you have any recommendations on stocks under 60 dollars that are magnetic ?

[strong plover]

does it have assault rifles?

it only says snipers

[tidal anchor]

Which one?

[strong plover]

the tomahawk

[tidal anchor]

Most magnetic are around 80, glistco is pushing 76.

You could always DIY parts to keep it within your range. Modus uses 19mm tubes, protube and mamut apto use 18mm. All three sell individual parts.

Amazon does have budget magnet stocks, but they wont last.

Gunface is also pushing 70

At 60, etsy might have somwthing for you

[tidal anchor]

Unfolded is pretty much avg. Rifle length, with the stock flipped up on the last pic is for long rifles and snipers

[strong plover]

okay, ty it just looks really tiny

[tidal anchor]

Its not lol, at full length my arms are almost fully extended

[tidal anchor]

Also extends further at the mid section

[burnt badge]

Bro that looks expensive

[strong plover]

aight ty

[eager portal]

weeaboowoes whats ur main/fav gunstock

[tidal anchor]

My DIY stock

[eager portal]

dang

[tidal anchor]

Literally buitl for my preference, not the best for TABOR tho

I use it for other games

[eager portal]

whats ur fav for tabor i meant

mb

[fleet narwhal]

Ant tips to making a good stock

My diy rn

[tidal anchor]

Ive only mentioned the ones that i personally use. But for tabor, either the tomahawk, ultistock, or onestock. I like to alternate. Tomahawk is def. The easiest to use tho

[fleet narwhal]

I think it looks like shit

[tidal anchor]

Mine looks like shit, but its comfortable to me lol

[eager portal]

did u ever have magtube? if yes what do u think about it

[fleet narwhal]

No it's a stock

[tidal anchor]

Yes ive used it, and yes out of the tube style magnetic stocks its probably the best

[eager portal]

am not sure what i like. since ive never had any. i want something thats accessible for looting and fighting

[fleet narwhal]

The only problem is that the controllers to put them out and in is a pain

[eager portal]

so it might jus be that

[fleet narwhal]

How much is that

Wdym it's all tape lol

[tidal anchor]

That wasnt for you

[fleet narwhal]

Mb

[eager portal]

now icl it looks like what i said

[tidal anchor]

Idr, its a jumble of old stocks that ive mashed together, plus parts ive bought separately

The offhand is a magnetic cup, so reloads are easy

Its actually pretty short, and light

[eager portal]

ye magnetic might be what i need since am pretty sure its the most comfortable for looting and reloading

[tidal anchor]

I can one hand it

[eager portal]

cant u 1 hand all gunstocks

or most?

[tidal anchor]

Usually, but whether it is comfortable or not

The haptic in the center is the heaviest part

[eager portal]

hm. would u say magnetic is the best balance for like looting reloading and fights? like in tabor\

[tidal anchor]

Stability vs speed, yes. Not the fastest, but def. The easiest to learn

[eager portal]

wdym

[tidal anchor]

Braces or the onestock would be the fastest, as hands are mostly free at all times

[eager portal]

like its not fast to put on and remove?

is it as stable tho

[tidal anchor]

No

The magnets keep it stable, the other 2 are subject to your grip or brace placement and wrist movement

[eager portal]

dam. how tf do i decide which is better or i want

this is so complicated 😭

[tidal anchor]

Thats on you, the magnet is the safer choice tbh, still removable not slow by any means, just that you'd have to flick your wrists first before free handing

Gets faster with practice

[eager portal]

yup. ill think about it. tysm for everything. u sat with me through this and explained in details. ty really

[tidal anchor]

Ofc, good luck finding something that works for you

[eager portal]

i might just get magnet since from what i understood is more of what i need. stability which is a big prob for me. ty

[tidal anchor]

👍

[eager portal]

not ofc. it isnt obvious but tysm for ur help

and yup i will

have a nice day/night or wtv ur having

[tidal anchor]

Likewise

[light berry]

should i get the glistco stock or something nicer? i’m looking for something to help my aim be less shaky because my hands shake a lot

i have the money for a tomahawk but i feel like it’s so expensive that i don’t know if its worth it

[rugged nexus]

so i got a gunstock but

the gunstock cali on ghost wont let me fix my gun being off by like half a inch

[arctic oxide]

Is the $68 gunstock off of tabors website any good??

[candid adder]

So I got a question about the tomahawk stock

Can the quest 2 controllers technically fit in the quest 3 version since the 3's controllers seem similar enough other than the giant sensor rings on top of the q2 remotes?

[tidal anchor]

No

The grip on both controllers are different shapes. Q2 being slightly larger and rounder at the base

[candid adder]

Thank you

[winged flax]

can anyone give me tips on hjow to control recoil with a gunstock, once i switched to a gunstock, it feels so weird controlling recoil

[candid adder]

Never used one myself but I feel like practicing at the in game ranges could help, the only tip I could maybe suggest is sweeping down slightly as it climbs?

[tidal anchor]

Also the ring doesnt fit, the tab on top of the controller mount is at a different angle

[candid adder]

That makes a lot of sense actually, thank you for the info

[tidal anchor]

Just practice, get a feel for it at the range

[winged flax]

been playing with a gunstock, for a monthg or mroe, im use to everything, just the recoil seems odd, as when i bring down the gun to control it, the sight just gets out of my eyes

[tidal anchor]

Yeah, the ring gets caught on the q3 mount

[tidal anchor]

Have you tried pulling down and to the side or tilting a bit as you shoot?

[winged flax]

only pull down when i control recoil

[orchid willow]

Best gunstock for pico 4 and a fair price? Magnetic since i heard its the easiest

[tidal anchor]

Dont know much about pico stocks. But, I know forcetube and HIGVR have PICO 4 stocks and magnet mounts.

[thick hatch]

!gunstocks - @viscid kindle of VR Tactical Gear might be working on an option for his Armory-R1 stock.

You can save 5% with code VRTG also if it does work out.

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[orchid willow]

Thanks😁

[orchid willow]

Which one should i take?

[tidal anchor]

Up to you, protube has a better rep, but the Hig stock doesnt look bad either. Both have haptic options. Protube would be better in the longrun tho

[orchid willow]

Alr well long run it aint gonna be cuz pico isn't known to have the best battery lenght

Looking for the cheapest best quality for pico

[tidal anchor]

I meant if you plan on using the stock for the next year or so

[orchid willow]

Yea well i dont play too much

[tidal anchor]

Magnetic stocks often aren't cheap, youre looking anywhere between 70-200 for a lot of quality stocks. If you want cheap, you may have to 3d print or DIY your own. Pico doesnt have many choices from what i know. So if you want magnetic, protube might be the best bet. Sale is still on for 121 for the base model

70-200 is the range for quest and index stocks, the most common. Pico, you have less options

[orchid willow]

Yea might just go for HigVr its the cheapest but idk what to pick in there

[tidal anchor]

Mr tass above also offered a solid stock, from what i know they dont sell pico on the site yet, but they can still send the version they're working on. Non magnetic tho

[orchid willow]

Yea

Magnetic is the easiest right

[tidal anchor]

For hig, theres a dropdown for magnet mounts, may want to consider the ant slip straps as well

Preferrence

[orchid willow]

Yea i wna have the a steady and decent aim cuz now its super weird🤣

[tidal anchor]

Steadier than a brace, or cup. Maybe not as fast, but it could be more cumbersome when reattaching. Just practice.

[orchid willow]

So u suggest magnetic or normal for a new player?

[tidal anchor]

Either

Practice with whatever you have and you'll be fine

[orchid willow]

I dont have a gunstock

Just 2 controllers🤣

[tidal anchor]

As in, whichever you pick

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[frosty barn]

bruh i had to cut the nib off with a heated plastic knife because the controllers wouldn't fit, and it would end up hitting the trigger and firing my gun randomly

works now tho

[vagrant vessel]

I really love my ultistock, but unfortunately I've had to glue several parts recently, nothing bad, just some fractures that were actually fairly clean

[tidal anchor]

Ive had to do the same, still holds up strong

[tidal anchor]

So long as it works, thats good

[scenic wraith]

One is a creator partnership stock

[royal wagon]

the signature edition magtubes only come in full carbon + adjustable cheek, so its the top tier version

[wild ruin]

The Signature edition also gives some portion of the purchase to the creator

[vagrant vessel]

Yeah was gonna say, I didn't even really need to do so, I just didn't like unnecessary flexing

[tidal anchor]

Same, although mine does have the removeable primary hand, and i did crack the cup. But that was on me, trying to force the controller in. Also i cut mine up a bit. Shortening parts, using joints the way they weren't designed, etc. I remember brando offering to make me custom parts lol.

[vagrant vessel]

Yeah mine cracked on both cups, fairly cleanly, and I'm noticing one on the actual connector to the cup

But it still works and feels nice so I havent brought it up to them

[tidal anchor]

Yeah, havent had any issues one of the first stocks ive used extensively, and still works great

Best change i made was the magnet holster and pinned cheek riser. No longer needing to unskrew to change the height

[vagrant vessel]

Didn't know about the new cheek risers

I oughta give those a go, straight up still had that hand collision glitch when using the stock because I guess the Aug isn't calibrated properly

[prisma frigate]

What gun stock should I get like £50-£60

[latent oasis]

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[hushed ibex]

Anyone have issues with the calibration? I set it up but doesn't seem to save when triggers are pressed

Also why are my arms really freaking short when you one hand the gun 😂 can't do anything with the off hand

[lone yarrow]

I had to go from my safe house and to the tabor market. Idk why but it messes up and I have to switch places to "fix it". Also one hand gun manipulation is wild. Super apparent if you a right handed bolt action person

[frigid valley]

Is this a good gunstock?

[tidal anchor]

Ok just to try out stocks, its cheap, the cheek riser slips, and will probably break within the year.

[umbral kettle]

No

Check out the smartstock

[swift crest]

I actually just bought it’s pretty basic but only using til my skolvr stock comes in.

[craggy bronze]

Is there any stocks for ps vr2

[hollow parcel]

vro... traded because i got 1 tapped by a naked wearing my best kit. ts game pmo

[tidal anchor]

Armory R1, kobra vader, forcetube, glistco, olen spine/asset, wield onestock

[umbral kettle]

Nice !

[tidal anchor]

The cheek riser isnt new, i made a pin so i wouldn't have to unskrew it everytime.

[vagrant vessel]

Ohhhhh, not a bad idea

[tidal anchor]

Pretty sure it was A 3mm hole. I took a polystyrene rod, added a head stopper, and pinned a ring.

[vagrant vessel]

Yeah honestly I thought some sorta camera tripod pin would work

Like one from the gopro tripod with a smaller thread

[tidal anchor]

As long as its the right size, anything would work.

[vagrant vessel]

Yeah fair, would just be worried about one sliding out

The ring ain't a bad idea

[tidal anchor]

Havent had any issues, my pin exceeds the other end by about 2mm, and is pretty tight. The ring just helps me find it when playing.

Made sure to round the other end so inserting is easier

[vagrant vessel]

I'll give that a go, seems like it'd be fun

I got like 2 magnet ultistocks, if there were calibrations per hand that would be interesting too

[slim dove]

Anyone Wana play ghost of tabor

I’m new

[ocean solar]

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[tidal anchor]

On my astreus, but its the same

[gilded trellis]

hi, im starting to get back into vr shooters but i dont like how my hands are when im using the guns, can any of you recommend a cheap vr gunstock :D

[amber forge]

Vrifle

25 Euro adding shippment Costs.

[tidal anchor]

What's your budget?

[amber forge]

Question :

Need a Patch, because the left grip Hand in the Calibration Screen isnt active, so IT is nearly impossible to calibrate the weapon classes

[tidal anchor]

@vagrant vessel This is the magnet mod i put together, im using the onestock in this vid, but its the same on my ultistock. Having the removable primary hand makes it better. I repurposed the velcro holster and swapped it to magnets.

[gilded trellis]

like 30-50 pounds

[tidal anchor]

What platform

[dim sun]

https://youtu.be/c1nZZd4OG3Q?si=w3QqdiSERb9FAwO- for some one that looks for high adjustability. Also.. Holster 🙂

[tiny stag]

How nice is it to have a gunstock?

[tidal anchor]

More confotable to shoot in games, helps with stability and immersion since you're physically holding something that can resemble a gun and shoulder.

Free hand and virtual wll almost always be faster tho

[sage lodge]

For people that like non-stop use gunstocks, I have a small question. I recently got my magtube and it's a god send. Though I've been getting mixed answers on if I should calibrate in game or irl? I've tried both and honestly don't have a preference, but I just would like to know which is "Better". Thanks a bunch boys, good luck on y'alls raids.

[tardy kayak]

I prefer setting it up to feel good irl then using in game to adjust. It's all up to preference

[light compass]

for the cgripvr should i get the one with tabor mod or just normal?

[round roost]

yo i have the Cgrip vr but i wanted to upgrade. I saw someone use the magtube protube stock is that a good upgrade?

[tidal anchor]

Like others have said, if the game has a solid calibration system, i adjust to what feels comfortable. Then adjust in game. If the game doesnt have a calibration system or a shtty one, then ill just calibrate the physical stock.

[tidal anchor]

Yes

[round roost]

ok

[tidal anchor]

There are other stocks that are fantastic as well. Skol, ArmoyR1, UFVR, ultistock, onestock, etc. But yes, if you're looking at protube, it is solid.

[light compass]

did you get it with the tabor add on

[tidal anchor]

Up to you, tabor mod has a different cheek riser to compensate for sight drift

[light compass]

so it's better?

[tidal anchor]

It helps, but isnt necessary. Lines up better with your eye when shooting.

[tidal anchor]

Cgrip standard, astreus stubby, or ultistock classic.

[outer sand]

does anyone know a good stock for quest 3s controllers thats like under 100 aud?

[tidal anchor]

Ultistock, cgrip, asset, non magnetic smartstock, boneyardlabs stock, astreus bravo or any of the smaller variants, mandude, pulsar brace.

Smartstock is on the skolvr website, everything else is on etsy

[light compass]

thanks

[tidal anchor]

For an extra 10, wouldnt hurt to have it

[fair stump]

i need help finding a gunstock i can mount both of my controllers on and is still affordable, i don’t want one of those one mount istock ones but i do want one that can mount both controllers but still in the range of the price of istocks.

for quest 3 controllers too

[tidal anchor]

Cgrip 35 tabor ver. 45, trident 40, astreus ministock+slapcup 50.

Alt. Save for some great stocks or variants of the 3 mentioned, within the 60-100 range
Skol smartstock, magnistock, asset, kobra,
Modus4, etc.

Or DIY a pvc stock for like 10-20

There are some cheap ones on amazon within the range that use magnets, but any of these would last in the long run compared to those.

[unkempt imp]

Anyone else encountering problems with limbs breaking and gum calibration, even after the limb is healed?

Rn if a limb breaks for me my calibration is thrown off to the point where I can even grab the second grip point on my gun

[thick hatch]

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[scenic spindle]

what the best gunstock for $10-120?

[dusty burrow]

hand 👍👍

[sinful geyser]

What’s the best gunstock for under 30-40 dollars

And does a gunstock usually help with your aim

[thick hatch]

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[granite kestrel]

3D printed this gunstock.

[lavish forum]

Does anyone know any good magnetic gunstocks

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[viscid ridge]

Anyone know any reliable and wallet friendly gun stocks for 3/3S?

[near ridge]

ive been using a $30 amazon one for a couple days, actually not bad at all. way better than nothing

there's several 80-100 ones or stocks on 3d printing websites

[dreamy fox]

so I have a glistco magni stock and does anyone know how to keep it stable on yo hip when it's hanging from the sling because mine spins around and gets tangled and then I'll have to untangle and unspin it mid fight

[weak steppe]

just bought a $35 off amazon as well. Not expecting the most comfortable best stock in the world but wasnt trying to spend $100-$150 for one yet

im too dogshit at the game to be dropping that much

[near ridge]

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[dim sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1nZZd4OG3Q&list=TLGGQKkmUElnGPQxODA1MjAyNQ its probably the best. its expensive, but this thing can do some stuff

[near ridge]

two points of contact for the sling, one point in the middle, one in the back. face both connection points straight up

great example

[dim sun]

two point sling should do.

[weak steppe]

thats the one I bought lol. Do you like it?

mine arrives tomorrow

[near ridge]

its worlds better than freehand for sure, take the time in game to calibrate it

[weak steppe]

Any tips on it for calibration or assembly?

[near ridge]

youtube it, but it's pretty straight forward, no difficult, just time consuming

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/quest-2-3-pro-vr-gunstock-vr-hs

This one was widly considered top tier for a long time, and the guy ended up closing up shop. he was kind enough to upload his design for free use though. I'd recommend trying it out if you have a printer.

(I have a friend printing me one now)

[weak steppe]

lol I have that saved to my PC for when my 3D printer arrives actually lol Wanted something to hold me over until then (which is also why I didnt wanna spend a lot)

[near ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[noble seal]

can you still recoil control while using a gunstock?

[viscid ridge]

Does this support quest 3/3S?

[hot sinew]

guys can I modify a shirt hanger as a gunstock

[noble seal]

i was looking on amazon and i think it does ill check again

yea it does i think

[viscid ridge]

Does it support multiple gun types?

[noble seal]

https://www.amazon.ca/Compatible-Controller-Enhance-Stability-Magnetic/dp/B0CY1XTKW9/ref=sr_1_5?crid=3C856NKSFCX3W&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sqZnXnpS3fRwS3cEf1PFZ3_mkBLvvL6WDcLCsTPYrb6CEdtnGjXEyv1RyEvCFi_dER3wtm--Ct3WhgWTVC7deATtBTnnoPts25c8vkgw4rr0z3Vvin8lkj9d1flxG9zgIh4y36KbtX8kf_sQsO5elmxe7Dg9yvjL1A-18qXEhhKooqZJSwYuu-EcgflO0JnHHUt0UZdwG27fui3LYseV2AE9fzPdR5XH7JHR7jC-vp1KOdI6CnbP7Ir1sqyr4GhqAUSOS4sibjxqwyeqkVEPdjuPTcMtL_qAdgiN76NGo64.B-eSPIONH4R5iW56G9XdSP7iCJSigj1oexEDBbMqZJY&dib_tag=se&keywords=quest%2B3%2Bgunstock&qid=1747596705&sprefix=%2Caps%2C103&sr=8-5&th=1

doubt it

the only one I know that has multiple gun types is wield vr

[tidal anchor]

It can, but not as easily while playing

[crisp igloo]

what do we think fellas, im upgrading from that cheap 30 dollar one that everyone keeps posting. it was my first gunstock and it was a 7/10, lot of adjusting. Anyone have this gunstock got any tips?

[tidal anchor]

Serviceable, a bit heavier, controllers can get loose, a bit bulky at the rear, the cheek riser is better at least. Free handing leaves a bar sticking behind your offhand which can get in the way. The other stock was better for that. Generally anything found on amazon is pretty low quality, often knockoffs of existing stocks.

[cinder junco]

is this a good gunstock for cheap?

[tidal anchor]

Like the others theyre fine for a little while, but will most likely break with a bit of extra force. If the cheek riser is anything like the other design, it is on a tube that doesnt have any tabs to keep it aligned so it can spin around and potentially break if overtightened. The cheek risers are held in with friction from a skrew pushing into the side of the tube, rather than a skrew hole. So it will loosen over time.

But if you want a serviceable magnet stock, it will work

[thick hatch]

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[drowsy lodge]

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[hot forge]

I twist the cheek rest up side down since it’s useless anyway. That way it sits in my arm pit when I let go. Not the most comfy but you get use to it.

[lofty sierra]

Does anyone know how to create a D.I.Y gunstock? I know I could just buy one but I want to try to make one.

[tidal anchor]

What are you trying to make it out of?

[lofty sierra]

Anything that would work

[tidal anchor]

You could do pvc, clothing hanger, cardbaord, wood, carbon fiber rods, etc.

You could also just buy spare parts from gunstock companies and put your own together for cheaper

[tidal anchor]

For example this is mine, its made from parts from 4 or 5 different gunstocks as well as individual parts bought separately.

You definitely dont need to do this to make a stock that works for you

[lofty sierra]

Yeah that thing is crazy

So what would I have to modify to make this work

[tidal anchor]

You could use it as is, hold on both ends with your thumb up front, and the middle finger down for the rear.

You could also glue/tape toilet paper rolls on opposite sides on both ends.

So you dont lose it when playing, connect one end with a sling

[azure geode]

yea that’s the one i use

[azure geode]

get 5e magtentic one it’s the same price and is 10x better

[lilac knot]

it looks good

I might give it a try

[tidal anchor]

Just look up vr gunstock on amazon, theyre all more or less the same quality. Most use the same magnet system aside from the glistco magnistock which is probably one of the beter options. Then theres the hasalaso, which is the wield onestock but square.

[rare harbor]

what ones can rotate the handle to the left and right and also tilt left and right for those diagonal grips and tabor and also can pump a shotgun

[tidal anchor]

Onestock and VRX15 meet that description.

[rare harbor]

does the back handle rotate

[tidal anchor]

Onestock has rotating/tilting cups, VRX15 is on a ball so you can do whatever you want

VRX is on a tube, you can set it up in whatever direction you want.

Onestock, front cup can be placed in 8 directions

[rare harbor]

yeah i watched the vid

[tidal anchor]

Main difference, onestock uses nonmagnetic cups

VRX uses magnets and has a pistol magnet on the primary hand. Shotgun is a little harder to use.

[rare harbor]

but does the vrx back handle picot like vrx

pivot like onestock *

[rare harbor]

the ball joints look sweet asf on the vrx 15 thanks brother

[tidal anchor]

Its on a carbon fiber tube, you can unskrew and place wherever you want.

[rare harbor]

i would never have found ts by myself

onestock cant pivot it left and right

if ykwim

[tidal anchor]

Yes, its only the offhand that can

[rare harbor]

tbh would i really need the ball bearings

if the back one can twist left and right ill be ok to use a diagonal grip in the front

[rare harbor]

not like holding the front of the gun without a grip

like a tabor horizontal grips

[tidal anchor]

Either stock you'll be fine

[rare harbor]

these

whats the stock you got

@tidal anchor

[tidal anchor]

My ultistock, its a forearm/wrist brace so orientation isnt a problem.

Also either stock can still use it, just wont line up 1:1

[rare harbor]

yeah

[sonic atlas]

Hi i use this

[undone bone]

Can anyone recomend a gunstock for psvr2

[thick hatch]

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[drowsy lodge]

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[winged python]

Is anyone a boa

I need help getting better

[tardy kayak]

!boa

[drowsy lodge]

The "Battlefield Observation & Awareness" program is a community maintained program to assist players in learning game mechanics.

Join the BOA Hub Discord!!
https://discord.gg/taborboahub

[weak steppe]

Got a gun stock and it seems to be calibrated fine with most guns, but the SKS is all wonky? Is that normal or do I need to calibrate a certain weapon for it?

[royal wagon]

sks calibrates with bolt action

take a look at the pinned calibration guide for everything known on the topic

[thick hatch]

!calibrate

[drowsy lodge]

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[buoyant dove]

can someone dm me a good 3d print for a gunstock

[sleek yew]

Anybody else have a issue with the cx8?

[royal wagon]

i believe it calibrates with the assault rifle calibration

[muted elk]

!stock

!gunstock

[thick hatch]

!gunstocks

[drowsy lodge]

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[dreamy plank]

yo

[tidal anchor]

Yes

[dreamy plank]

i enjoy that gunstock

got the founders edition

[tidal anchor]

Nice, i almost exlusively use it for shotguns nowadays. Usually on C$ or TAVR

[atomic urchin]

Any good cheap ish gunstocks?

[tidal anchor]

Cgrip 35, some amazon stocks also 35, astreus stubby 25, astreus ministock 20, ultistock 45, smartstock non magnetic 45, astreus ministock+slap cup 50, anything after 50 there are many more options,

Check on etsy there are someother stocks under 50 that i mentioned

But for tabor cgrip is a solid stock, there is a 45 option that is built for tabor

[thick hatch]

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[drowsy lodge]

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[kindred plume]

whats a good, cheap gunstock that warks for quest 2

[tidal anchor]

How much are you open to spending

[kindred plume]

However much idc

just on the "cheap" side

[tidal anchor]

Under 50, under 100?

[kindred plume]

under like 75

but i think i found 1

[tidal anchor]

Thats a good amount to work with, but if you found one you like thats great!

There are plenty of solid options around the 50-75 range

That will last

[fleet narwhal]

Hey

[kindred plume]

k

[fleet narwhal]

So I just bought a new gunstock

Want to get someones opinion on it

[tidal anchor]

Which stock

[fleet narwhal]

Idk I read some reviews there mixed

Is it any good ??

[tidal anchor]

Its fine, one of the cheaper tube options, not the best magnetic cup design but it will work fine. Just dont be too rough when tightening

[fleet narwhal]

Ok

Its better than the diy one I built lol 😂

[tidal anchor]

Oh yeah for sure. It served its purpose 🫡

[fleet narwhal]

My rooms a mess ik Im in the process of moving

I'ma give it to my buddy

[raw elm]

The back stock is designed to be closer so that you can see & aim better with the sight near your eye.

[raw elm]

These got me 15+ kills in tabor in a day

[raw elm]

Trust it is.

[tidal anchor]

Only thing i didnt like about the stock was the cheek riser, really easy to overtighten, since there werent any fixed positions.

[umbral kettle]

Check out the smartstock

[tidal anchor]

Under 75 yeah, the non magnetic is good. But if he can save an extra 10-15 the magnetic smartstock is great

[crisp igloo]

Controllers keep sliding out, any fixes?

[umbral kettle]

Agreed

He can also use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

[tidal anchor]

Yeah thats a common issue with that stock. You can try putting a piece of grip tape or 1mm foam sheet on the inside wall.

[covert ravine]

Same one I use best $30 I have spent

[raw elm]

yeaa

[frozen flicker]

Been playing VR since 2016, finally treating myself to a quality gun stock after using cheap or 3d printed ones.

[tidal anchor]

Sweet, you'll enjoy it!

[frozen flicker]

Thanks, I'm sure it'll work well! I had made a 3d printed one that worked simalary with the resting front controller position, but it kept shifting after heavy use and became more of a nuisance.

[tidal anchor]

Shouldnt be a problem, injection molded and carbon fiber parts, it can take a beating.

Ima bit of a sucker for shotgun stocks, always fun to have that feature for pump actions

[sturdy parcel]

Thinking about buying a kobravr mamba edc, any thoughts?

[weak steppe]

I bought this one and it just came in yesterday. Really like it and for the money ($35) it does what I need it.... feels like learning the game again learning how to use a stock though lol

[weak steppe]

do you like it close like that or farther away like in the Amazon stock picture

[viscid kindle]

Awesome man! Thank you for the support!

[viscid kindle]

much appreciate you spreading the word Wee... true MVP status. thanks

[raw elm]

Close, I just modified it like in the photo

[frozen flicker]

Of course. Looks like solid modular equipment I'm excited to receive it. I see it's 3-8 days for shipping. Is that including processing the order.

[viscid kindle]

Yes, you should get it in that time frame from today. 👍 We try to get the order out day-of or next day of the order. depending on when the order is received and holidays, sundays etc etc.

[frozen flicker]

Awesome! Can't wait!

[stark heath]

Is this good

[sturdy parcel]

^

[tawny wind]

Any good gunstocks for tabor on Amazon?

[feral oriole]

not good for tabor but decent Ig. Ive had IT for a long time and its decent

[spare plinth]

Cheapest oculus quest 3 stock what do I mean cheap I mean like 30 to 40 pound

And I don't mind if it goes to maybe 50 pound or USD

[open marsh]

!gunstock

!gunstocks

[drowsy lodge]

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[tidal anchor]

Its fine, used it for a bit, repurposed its parts for a different stock

[stark heath]

ok

[next parcel]

Is the onestock worth getting

[tidal anchor]

@next parcel
Depends if you like its features, it is the fastest at freehanding with a stock, using a dual cup design. But that isnt for everyone, most prefer either a friction held primary hand or magnets. It can be adjusted in a lot of ways quickly for any gun, and does offer a pump action.

You'll always have to keep a firm grip on the cups so you dont drop the stock unintentionally

But they do offer STLs on the mount, so you could always make your own design

But within its price range you, got the Forcetube, skol butcher, skol tomahawk, Armory R1, Vrx15, UFVR, and many other fantastic stocks to choose from

@next parcel
#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Refer to the link for other stocks

[warped surge]

I use a one stock, it’s pretty good imo, really easy to fit most guns, the only issue it kinda has is with guns with weird grips like the mp9, mp7, guns like those.

[sturdy parcel]

Does anyone like the kobra mamba? I’m thinking abt ordering it but it’s pricey and will take like a month to ship to me

[tardy saffron]

anyone got some files or a link to an easy 3d printable gunstock that doesn't need any bolts or magnets?

[unique wharf]

What’s a good one for quest two

[tidal anchor]

There are plenty, depends on your budget and preferences. Although i wouldnt recommend bottom mounted stocks for Quest controllers, they may break tracking.

[unique wharf]

What does that mean?

[tidal anchor]

@unique wharf
How much are you willing to spend, and what do you want out of a stock, there are way too many to list them all out, its easier to list off ones that fit your preference. Do you prioritize, a strong stock, adjustability, weight, ease to freehand, magnets, pump action features, simplicity, etc. Etc.

Bottom mounted, just means the controllers connect to the bottom of the stock, usually a long metal rod and magnets on top of the controller

Bc you are using quest, there are IR trackers in the ring that the headset needs to be able to see to track properly

Having the stock above the controllers can block line of sight

Unless you are using the Pro controllers they have built in cameras so thats not an issue

If anything just give a price range and i can pop off a few stocks to look at

[unique wharf]

Well, I am playing ghost of tabor . I’m gonna need a good variety Between different guns. I’ll start that maybe $60.

And if there is one that works with quest two and quest three just in case I get a new one

[tidal anchor]

At 60, some good stocks for tabor:

ultistock 45-80, brace design but does have other variations, having a wrist/arm brace doesn't inhibit use of any type of gun, just adjust your arm.

Cgrip 35, fixed cup design, but also designed with tabor in mind. Theres just enough gap between the cups for all guns. They do also sell a tabor specific stock for 45

Astreus 20-80, similar to ultistock, both use multiple joints. Both can be built however you want because the joints are universal. Like the ultistock there are other variations such as a cup, split stock magnet between the controllers, arm brace, etc.

Amazon stocks 35-55, some decent starting stocks with magnetic mounts. They are generally low quality plastic and may break with excessive force/overtightening. They will do the job tho.

Trident 54, similar to cgrip, but had an additional cup for your offhand. Intended for rifles and smgs.

Boneyardlabs stock 60, similar to cgrip, to fixed controller mounts but with a gap in the center to give clearance for reloads.

[tidal anchor]

Most cup, friction style mounts are cross compatible. Q3 controllers are slightly smaller, so youd have to put some tape or foam inside the cup.

All but the amazon stocks can be found on etsy, check out the other variants as well.

[unique wharf]

Ok

[unique wharf]

What do you think is better than the ultistock or the Astreus?

It’s only two that I think I like

[tidal anchor]

Theyre both similar enough, i have both and use them both in different configurations. I do like that the ultistock has a magnetic version that allows me to holster the stock, and remove my primary hand. I often use it with a long front cup configuration, as well as a shorter hand stop for smgs.

However the astreus has more varied configurations if you get the upgrade parts, cups, the split magnet, arm brace. Cheek brace, full stock, etc. Or a combination of several.

My astreus is using the split magnet and no stock atm.

So i can free hand pretty easily

Can't go wrong with either really, but i would say the ultistock's brace configuration works well with tabor.

[unique wharf]

Ok is that a website or what?

[tidal anchor]

Both on etsy

Website or app

They both have tabs for their upgrade parts, multiple upgrades can be mixed and matched as well.

[unique wharf]

Is there any other way? I ain’t got it.

[tidal anchor]

The website?

[onyx lagoon]

what’s the best gunstock for a budget of 35$

[latent oasis]

!gunstocks

[drowsy lodge]

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[tidal anchor]

Cgrip or some of rhe amazon stocks

[sinful stirrup]

Do i have to calibrate every gun when i want to use it

[sharp ridge]

waht stock is this

[tidal anchor]

Its a stock from amazon, one of the first that comes up if you look up vr gunstock

[fleet narwhal]

Ant tips on callabrating a stock

I tried but it just won't line up I can't move it to the right just a tad how do I do that

[royal wagon]

you cannot make horizontal adjustments with the calibration system, you will need to physically adjust your stock to have the proper horizontal alignment. check the pinned calibration guide for detailed instructions and a video guide.

[fleet narwhal]

Yea it's being a bitch

[drifting nebula]

whats the best gunstock for $100

[tidal anchor]

Under 100, smartstock, modus, kobra, asset, astreus, ultistock, etc.

If you push up to 120, you got the full size skol butcher and Armory R1, which are both great

[severe salmon]

i need a cheap but really reliable gunstock for a index. I cant snipe for shat

[tidal anchor]

@severe salmon Magni stock is around 50 on amazon

[thick hatch]

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[celest lynx]

Anyone know how to fix your arm after it gets put to 0?

[unique wharf]

Is the Wieldvr one stock good?

[tidal anchor]

It has its benefits, adjustable for all weapons, length, pitch, rotation etc. Without having to take off the headset or unskrew mid game. If you leave skrews and knobs slightly untightened. Its got a shotgun pump built into the length adjustment tab. Unlock to freely adjust the length or use as a pump action, then flick it back up to lock. Arguably the fastest to freehand, outside of running without a stock or arm brace. It uses dual cups, so there is no friction or magnetic connection to the stock. If you let go of the cups, the stock drops. Which is something some people like and others dont. The buttstock and cheek riser isn't my favorite as i find it kind of flat and bulky. But other than that its very adjustable. It is also quite pricey at 150ish. There are several stocks within that range that are also great contenders. If you sign up i do believe they have a 10% offer. And this friday is a limited sale for $89

The Armory R1: VRTG 5% off

Forcetube/magtube: 20% off sale on the starter set on protube website.

Skol butcher: SKOLVR5 for 5% off, same for tomahawk

Skol Tomahawk

Within the 120-180 price range. All are solid.

[unique wharf]

Where does it say that Friday sale?

[tidal anchor]

Their discord and newsletter

It goes live on friday

[obsidian turret]

You use an nrs.

Just ordered my adjustable butt stock for my mag tube. Hopefully it actually works now

[arctic hare]

Anyone know some good $20-30 dollar gunstocks

[lilac knot]

Whats a good 3d printable gunstock

[tidal anchor]

Exostock, astreus stubby or ministock, istock, cgrip is 35 but good for the price. Also the $35 stocks on amazon.

[arctic hare]

Thanks

[tidal anchor]

Or DIY with pvc pipes

[sturdy parcel]

Just bought this one. Seems like a good cheap option to go with that will let me kinda get a feel if another point of contact will help my aim a lot.

Plus, it not being a full like structure should allow me to use it for multiple weapons

[raven oak]

It's a bug, the work around is breaking your other arm so it matches the offset

[umbral kettle]

Smartstock you can use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

[finite sandal]

does anyone know a reliable budget gunstock?

[umbral kettle]

Yeah the smartstock

[drowsy lodge]

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[winter stone]

Could someone tell me a good 3d print gunstock design?

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[uneven trellis]

Anyone knows how to configure the ProTube MK 2 Adjustable gunstock to use both hands during calibration?

I calibrated it perfectly via tge game but when I hold the front gtrip the guns go away.

Calibration seems to not allow the user to hold the game with both hands

[royal wagon]

check the pinned guide, it has lots of details and a video on how to best use it

[lilac knot]

whats a good 3d printable gunstock

[mellow epoch]

Does it comes with the strings or nah?

[mighty storm]

Magtube or skolvr? I’m sure this question is beating a dead horse lol

[tidal anchor]

Skol is easier to get the hang of, simpler and doesnt have a lot of adjustability. Fixed primary hand, and a magnetic offhand. Or you could go with the cheaper nonmagnetic cups.

Magtube has more adjustability, requires a sling most of the time, and can let you free hand. But then youd have to find the connections mid game.

Kind of up to you.

[next patrol]

Im use the quest 3s and im good but my hands are really shaky.What would be the best gun stock that isn't overpriced?

[umbral kettle]

Smartstock

I own it and its pretty good

You can use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

[next patrol]

Thanks bro

[pure crown]

I just tied my controllers ropes together as a solution

[next patrol]

So real😭

[thick hatch]

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[drowsy lodge]

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[swift crest]

i just got skol vr butcher yesterday played about 3 hours with it cant seem to get the Calibration right It's probably my fault not the stock's fault. But the stock is really easy to get the hang of. And lightweight. I would recommend it honestly.

[swift crest]

hated this stock

[limber ridge]

I have that one

[drifting nebula]

👍

[mental lance]

First of all please try it without calibration with virtual gunstock OFF, and physical gunstock ON by default. That's the easiest way to use it.

The front controller should be slightly to the left, if needed. Also please, check Tabor-calibration chat in the discord server from the product description. This video below is the tutorial for Tomahawk/Butcher/SmartStock.

https://youtu.be/-aKZGCwOcg0?feature=shared

Added you as a friend here for support. Please, feel free to ask anything.

[sturdy parcel]

it comes with this little piece that u use to connect your oculus controllers by their wrist straps

[idle rune]

I know this is a weird ask but is there anyway someone has a code for a gunstock that I can 3d print?

[coarse hemlock]

Anyone able to help me find some loot I’m broke

Maybe

[idle rune]

Wrong chat

[coarse hemlock]

Ohhh sheee you right

[lilac knot]

guys what are some good 3d printable gun stocks

[winged summit]

are gunstocks worth it? i wanna get into sniping

[umbral kettle]

Definitely

Check out the Tomahawk that’s what i use

[winged summit]

aight thanks do u find it easy to go in ur bag reload ect with it?

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[drowsy lodge]

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[thick hatch]

You could check out the ManDude or the MakerStock on MakerWorld @lilac knot

[umbral kettle]

Yes

It’s very easy to reload and loot

You can use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

If you have anymore questions feel free to ask

[sinful valley]

I ordered a pro tube didn’t get my confirmation

[idle rune]

I know this is a weird ask but is there anyway someone has a code for a gunstock that I can 3d print? Like a file I can use

[wild ruin]

this very rarely occurs, and when it does all someone has to do is contact us through support on the website and we can get them their order information 👍

sorry for any inconvenience

[idle rune]

Anyone got a cheap but reliable gunstock?

[thick hatch]

!GUNSTOCKS

[drowsy lodge]

Want a recommendation of a quality gunstock?

User Ceps made a giant list of reliable gunstocks for use in Ghosts of Tabor!

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Combat Waffle Studios / Ceps

[flat spade]

Which gunstock do you recommend from your store?

[mossy crag]

Magtube carbon with the MK2 buttstock

[wild ruin]

^ this

[flat spade]

Thanks

[wild ruin]

Or more generally speaking, the MagTube. MK2 stock has even more adjustability for better alignment if you are on inside out tracking headset like Quest. Carbon is lighter tubes, and non reflective. You can also cover the regular tubes.

If you are on Quest, make sure to disable hand tracking when using any gunstock. It interferes with tracking.

[idle rune]

I've looked at all of those already non of them fit what I want

[lethal girder]

What do you want?

[idle rune]

Something durable below 50 bucks that I can use with my controllers

[tardy kayak]

You won't be finding much at that price point that's actually good. I highly advise waiting until your budget is higher

[civic ledge]

Anyone got good guns tock for psvr2?

[swift crest]

wow that actually solved all my problems thank u the video was a major help

[idle rune]

It's never gonna get any higher

[thick hatch]

Check out the Armory-R1 by VR Tactical Gear.

You can also save 10% with code MrTass or 5% with VRTG

[tardy kayak]

Well then good luck finding something. If you aren't able to raise that bar I wouldn't suggest getting a stock at all since most at that price tend to easily bend or break within a few months or even weeks

[tidal anchor]

What kind of design are you looking for?

[idle rune]

Anything that I can put to my shoulder and put my controllers in

[tidal anchor]

You could pick up the astreus stubby, then buy the upgrade buttstock kit to add on. 25 for stubby, and 20 for the stock.

Alt. Buy an amazon stock for 35, or save up

Cgrip isnt bad either, theyve got the tabor edition for 45

[winged python]

Boa

?

[feral oriole]

!boa

[drowsy lodge]

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Join the BOA Hub Discord!!
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[wise depot]

Whats the best gunstock? Dont care about price. Just the best of the best

[tidal anchor]

Protube, magtube, Armory R1, Tomahawk, onestock, etc.

These are names you'll see a lot. Wouldnt say there's a "best" these stocks are all great at different things. Really depends on what kind of controller mounting system and gimicks you want. For example, the onestock and R1 can both act like pump action shotguns, the onestock uses cups, so you can drop the stock to freehand. The R1 has a hand brace. The protube/magtube can be built for haptics, the tomahawk is probably the most straightforward of the bunch, but has a side folding stock that can flip up to extend.

[umbral kettle]

Tomahawk

You can use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

[frigid ingot]

@nocturne plover guess what I got a spere while I did a naked run in mall and got out I’m only spec 2

[nocturne plover]

?

[frigid ingot]

Mr flim

Got any tips for me I’m
Like kinda bad and I’m 12 and I got nuclear night

And a spear

[rotund sky]

@nocturne plover when’s the left thigh reveal?

[grim kiln]

magtube with carbon tubes imo

[mossy crag]

The carbon magtube with MK2 butt stock

[sharp ridge]

looking for a stock under 100 bucks anyone got a idea

[glad scroll]

!gunstocks

[drowsy lodge]

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User Ceps made a giant list of reliable gunstocks for use in Ghosts of Tabor!

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Combat Waffle Studios / Ceps

[glad scroll]

You can find a couple options there

[random depot]

Hey guys, looking for a bit of advice. I'm using a gunstock with psvr2 and I can't reload most long guns with it. The mag just won't slot in. It will work if I switch the gun to my off hand and use my dominant hand for the mag and it will sort of work if I hold the rifle with my left and mag with the right but both feel unnatural. Any tips? (Pic of gunstock attached)

[sinful valley]

I ordered a pro tube maybe it improve my shooting

[deft zodiac]

Is the skol vr tomahawk worth it?

[umbral kettle]

Yes i own it

You can use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

[trim spindle]

Thats common with lots of gun stocks. I am on a Quest 3 but I can tell you some guns do suck to reload with my setup. for some I just learn to detach both hands to 'free hand it'.

I also am able to rock my rear controller a little if I press the stock into my shoulder, to get that little needed room for some guns like AK. GL, if youre new welcome to Tabor

[sinful valley]

Is the the protube be gunstock good

[random depot]

Thanks mate, I'm getting there with it. Found switching dominant hand in the settings has helped but with the drawback of having the pistol on the wrong side. 💁‍♂️ I'm about 50 hrs in now but 10 of those are probably pissing about in the bunker 😂

[harsh thistle]

!gunstocks

[drowsy lodge]

Want a recommendation of a quality gunstock?

User Ceps made a giant list of reliable gunstocks for use in Ghosts of Tabor!

🔗#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Combat Waffle Studios / Ceps

[formal lagoon]

Good gunstock up to £35 quest 2

[abstract glen]

Do u need one?

[formal lagoon]

Yh

[obsidian stratus]

Why ain’t u a content creator in the server? Shouldn’t u have the role?

[abstract glen]

Baomaeyea VR Gunstock for Meta Quest 2,Gun Stock Compatible with VR Meta Quest2 Controller Grips for Enhance Stability and Control Magnetic Stock Rifle Adapter https://amzn.eu/d/gUvZGDW

[nocturne plover]

Nah, I’m not a official creator yet.

Maybe I will be maybe I won’t only time will tell

[obsidian stratus]

You should 💯 be one

I vote to kick GhostVR and put u instead. (You carry ghost)

[nocturne plover]

Ghost is a top tier dude

[solemn marten]

Mrflimssyyy

[tawny wind]

How is bro level 25

[nocturne plover]

😭😂

[obsidian stratus]

He’s a good creator but he is buns at the game

No offence to him

[nocturne plover]

Nah he’s amazing offline

[obsidian stratus]

🤨

[pure crown]

Hey mate I’m on PlayStation too, I’m currently using the kobra Vader one gun stock works wonders, except reloading the glock rarely presents a issue but other then that it’s rlly good for all psvr2 games

[steel garnet]

Maybe they dont want to give you it because you have an ego

[acoustic scroll]

I just bought a Vr gunstock and when I hold guns I can't seem to get it so I'm looking through the sight. Can someone help?

I already tried to calibrate the gunstock in game, but it is very fidgity and doesn't work

[dark otter]

How does one get that role?

[lone canopy]

Could I get a hand with someone….experience with vr gunstock

[clever dome]

Yea I got the cheapest one for 35 dollars it works kinda

[clever dome]

Have like 3 or 4 kd though

[lone canopy]

…kinda? I heard OlenVr is badass

I’m going all out. I want the best quality

[clever dome]

Are you good at the game right now?

[lone canopy]

NOPE I’m ass

Can’t aim for shit

[clever dome]

You can go all out but it’s helps with stability not aim as much depends about the person I just bought it for better Emerson

[lone canopy]

that’s the point. My aim is fucking flawless….but I can’t for shit hold the damn gun to my eye.

[clever dome]

You a twig or something

[lone canopy]

Watchu mean

[clever dome]

like you to weak to hold the joystick up

[lone canopy]

I’m built man. But I fucking can’t hold the two controllers straight

I can’t stabilize it

[clever dome]

What’s you bench

[lone canopy]

Idfk. Last pr was like 230. I’m 16 id say it’s decent. lol what’s it got to do with anything. We getting tungsten controllers now?

[drifting ingot]

You guys wanna play?

[lone canopy]

You typing your life story?

[clever dome]

Just but the one stock

[clever dome]

😢

[lone canopy]

lol. I think ima check out olenvr

thanks man

[drifting ingot]

You wanna play?

[daring bison]

What's a cheap one for under £60

[sharp ridge]

!gunstock

!gunstocks

[drowsy lodge]

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Combat Waffle Studios / Ceps

[austere bison]

did they fix forcetube support yet??

[full belfry]

is anyone having the issue where when using physical gunstock your hands tilt downwards?

[wild ruin]

#1323110992451862588 message nope, been almost year and a half for pc, close to 2 years for quest

[peak tundra]

reset all calibrations
when u do calibrate do NOT grab ur gun with the hand thats furthest away from you

[random depot]

Cheers dude. Ill have a look if I don't get on with this one. Appreciate it

[forest escarp]

Does anyone have some recommendations for a gunstock for psvr2?

[umbral kettle]

Smartstock you can use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

[pliant iron]

I have a question what haptic suit can BE used on Meta Quest 3 in got and what gun Stock ist the best for got And can i use IT without pc

[pure crown]

Sick lmk how u go!

[regal osprey]

Hey can someone advice me a good gunstock that doesn't cost me that much

[bronze knot]

I’m getting one soon so am I like allowed in this chat now

[bronze knot]

I’m getting the skolvr smart stock

You can buy it without the cheek rest and magnetic for very cheap around 56$ CAD and 40$ American

I’m getting it with the cheek rest and magnetic for 120$ Canadian

[lament fog]

Anyone got any good cheap ish guns gunstocks they could recommend to me?

For quest 2 please

[full belfry]

tysm man

[peak tundra]

👍

[full belfry]

so when i calibrate when can i hold both hands onto the gun?

[peak tundra]

during calibartion NEVER hold the gun with the furthest hand
after its calibrated it should work fine when u hold it

[full belfry]

when i click calibrate it shows a gun, i put both of my controllers onto the gunstock and calibrate the gun to where its confortable. Then a couple seconds after when i go to grab a rifle, the gun points down and my hands do as well

[peak tundra]

u can grab the grip to see how it fits
but when u press both triggers dont hold the front grip

[peak tundra]

reset ur calibrations again
u can also drop the gun it gives u and calibrate the gun that ur using by grabbing it off ur holster
so u can calibrate grips and different sized guns

[full belfry]

okay, im gonna try this

[turbid lark]

Are gunstocks even worth it?

[bronze knot]

The one that I sent above this text yes that’s a good one

[full belfry]

it works!

[indigo cloak]

is this gun stock good?

[lost quail]

It looks like it is decent

[indigo cloak]

or this one

[lost quail]

That one is good but you have to take both where the first one you keep the controls in

[tardy kayak]

I prefer the magtube by protube

[indigo cloak]

do i get a thing so the gun stock can hang around me

[tardy kayak]

A sling? With a magtube you would, yes. With skolvr's stocks, you wouldnt

[indigo cloak]

aight buying that one rn

[tardy kayak]

Buy it off of protube's official website if you arent already

[indigo cloak]

this one?

[indigo cloak]

is this only usa?

nvm

[tardy kayak]

yes

[pastel epoch]

What i personally did for a vr gun stock was 3d printed one it was easy to find a good stl file for one. you also get the bonus of a fun new hobby.

[lament fog]

Thank you

[umbral kettle]

Yes i have it it’s great

[bronze knot]

Your welcome I don’t have it yet but I’ve just been seeing a bunch of big tiktokers get it for free to review and they say really good things about it

[indigo cloak]

does it have a sling

[umbral kettle]

No it’s about 200 grams so you don’t need a sling

[indigo cloak]

i mean so i can reload

[umbral kettle]

You can buy a belt clip and put a sling on it but it’s not needed

[umbral kettle]

It’s a split stock design

[indigo cloak]

oh okay

[umbral kettle]

Let me show you

[umbral kettle]

https://youtu.be/7zrmSS_kLgo?si=J2rW9I9K7TtADAZM

Its very easy and fast to loot and reload

If you have anymore questions feel free to ask and you can use discount code SKOLVR5 for 5% off

[lament fog]

When you do get it please lmk your honest opinion.

[bronze knot]

I will they say shipping is 15-25 days😒 so it will be a bit

[winter stone]

Can someone please tell me a good 3d printed gunstock non magnetic full print?

[hollow gorge]

i just got a protube and dont really know how to calibrate it with my hands still feeling normal whilst not holding the gun. any advice?

[winter stone]

Anyone knows a good gunstock which is good for tabor not so expensive too thats sends to germany too?

Is that gunstock good?

[hollow gorge]

also if i accidentally let go of my grip, my front grip is unreachable so i have to undo the magnet then grab it then put the magnet back on

as in, its not ligned up straight

[wild ruin]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PricklyTubularBarracudaPicoMause-vxFUP585vkUbiZyi

https://youtu.be/AU8k8ZaNrqE?si=QQ4SgVS16BVEduDG

Follow these to set up magtube for tabor

For a quick start guide refer to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProTubeVR/comments/15mfyel/magtube_quick_start_guide_just_received_your/

[glad scroll]

That is not split stock, you still have 90% of the stock sticking out in front of the dominant hand.
Raidr or Exostock use split stock design

[umbral kettle]

it is a split stock design

Easy to loot and reload

[glad scroll]

it doesn't, the whole purpose of split stock is to have nothing sticking out in front of your dominant hand which this stock doesn't qualify for.

[narrow yoke]

Do you guys thing the magtube from protube vr is good?

[tardy kayak]

I would say yes

[tidal anchor]

A lot of split stocks have some of the stock sticking in front/above/below the primary hand. As well as some of the stock sticking behind the offhand. Theyre usually split 50/50 between the 2 controllers. Gunface, RaidR, astreus magbreak etc. But there are exceptions where the majority of the split is on the offhand, like on the asset. But, usually a good split stock doesnt have the majority sticking out of the primary hand. So you can use both hands somewhat freely.

I wouldnt call the skol stocks, split stocks. Thats like saying my DIY is a split stock if i were to move the magnetic cup connection all the way to the front

Love my tomahawk tho

[glad scroll]

spot on. The beauty of split stocks is no obstruction in front of the hand without having to release the gunstock. For Skolvr's stocks its 90% on one hand 10% on the other, with a good 10 or 15cm sticking out in front of the dominant hand

[tidal anchor]

Yeah the only way you would be able to put your primary hand to the ground on a skol stock, is if you were to put it on its side. Still functions well enough though. But many games usually have a "force pull" feature so its not a big problem.

[glad scroll]

yeah in practice it's probably doing very fine eitherway

[tidal anchor]

Yeah i have no issue in practice, muscle memory is great. Can always make the most awkward of stocks work with enough practice

[mental lance]

The whole purpose of SKOLVR stock is better weight balance on both wrists and more comfort in use as a result. No twisting weight from the buttstock, especially comparing to raidr. There's no obstruction on the front because ingame axis is very well thought out, and it's much easier to connect like so. 50/50 split only looks like making sense, but is much harder to connect blindfolded on practice.

To me personally it is a pain to connect back having a stick behind my front hand. To my personal experience. That's why I chose to make it differently.

I think SKOLVR is not only the split stock, it's a very well wrist weight balanced and intuitive split stock.

And there's only one qualification. Real users feedback.

[glad scroll]

that's great, but that's something else than split stock. And there's nothing wrong with that, but don't use a term that doesn't apply. Otherwise we could also consider the magtube a split stock, because the non dominant part also splits away from the main frame.
split stock means stock is split in half, nothing sticks out in front. Your stock doesn't split in half (10/90, magtube split would be 5/95) and has a good part that sticks out in front (which can occasionally get in the way, for example picking stuff on the ground you'll have to turn your hand to reach it)

[glad scroll]

I wouldn't consider d3llux real user feedback because he's a professional spammer for skolvr pretty much 😄. Eitherway, it's by definition not a split stock. And again, it doesn't mean it's a bad thing, you have good reasons to not follow that design as you said for balance

[mental lance]

Magtube can be made to a split stock too btw, I saw that, but not in it's common state. You can't loot with it attached.

[mental lance]

Then I would consider about one hundred VRML eSports players currently in Onward, Breachers, Vail and Pavlov as the most active about feedback players. Former freehanders mostly 😊

But again it's a split stock by definition, and yours is a half split stock if you would like to distinguish yours from mine 😉

You can loot with it attached by definition.

[glad scroll]

I thought you were talking of d3llux because he was the only customer saying it's a split stock here

[glad scroll]

Where have I said you wouldn't be able to loot otherwise?

[mental lance]

No, there's much more customers who can agree my stocks split 😊

[glad scroll]

But magtube also splits

So then it's also a split stock

[mental lance]

And cGrip splits

[glad scroll]

It's too long to loot though, but it also splits

[glad scroll]

So you see when you use a word for anything it looses its meaning

[mental lance]

Yep, it's too long to loot in current state, but starter one is very close to that.

[mental lance]

You see when you count split percentage it loses its meaning too. Because half split is not the only legit split you know. To me personally the ability to loot with a stock split is making sense.

[glad scroll]

Yet looting stuff on the ground will be blocked by the whole part sticking out of the dominant hand, so you have to rotate your hand to get it out of the way..

You can't say your gunstock is a split stock when it doesn't split the whole part that is meant to be removed thanks to the splitting in two.
The only reason you can still loot or reload in modt cases is because the front is short enough, unlike the magtube for example.
It would be much more accurate to call it a short stock instead of split stock, that would describe its advantage better

[mental lance]

You can loot and don't need to rotate nothing unless you will start drinking, but it's not a big deal either.

And it's not as short as half split stocks, and it can be extended even from the current state.

If you like that definition, you may call fixed half split stocks 'short'

d3llux just uses the word for definition of the ability to disassemble the stock with magnets and to loot and reload at any time with the stock attached,nothing more. And that definitely makes sense. It's much easier to explain the feature like so.

Half split stocks are something interesting but are not the only split stocks that make sense.

As I described earlier there are different ways to split and they're great.

[glad scroll]

Yes so every gunstock is a split stock very useful 🫡

[mental lance]

It's just a very useful word to describe certain features.

In short.

[glad scroll]

I agree that means you can say a gunstock with splitting features, instead of split stock, which implies that it's a main feature of the stock that it splits in two and not just a controller cup that splits away of the mainframe.

(And again, your stock can reload and loot fine because the front is shorter, not because it splits away which is what differentiates a gunstock->splitstock. Otherwise everything is a splitstock and genuine split stocks loose their differentiating term making it harder for people to understand they're looking for.

[wild ruin]

re split stock talk (seeing MagTube mentioned)

closest we have, or rather, smallest form factor we have, is the Starter. It is just 1 tube at smallest option, so less on the primary hand. Naturally, this isn't a true 50/50 split, but as others have mentioned such a split can technically be DIY'd by any mechanism that works with 18mm diameter tubing 👍

[glad scroll]

It's like putting ghosts of tabor in the same category as blade and sorcery, swordsman VR, hellsplit arena, melee games, because tabor has melee in it

So technically you can call tabor a sword/melee game because it has it, but it would be very dishonest towards real melee games because it's just a small part in it compared to the whole purpose

[mental lance]

That's just the play of words stocks with splitting features or a split stock. I see no difference in it. Split stock definition is just shorter and even easier to comprehend. Trust me, guys see well on which percentage it splits without your guidance. And trust me they see how MagTube splits too. But it is needed to explained, it splits for looting being attached. And it will be explained.

And it's not just a cup it's a part of a frame with a magnet. You could see that in the pictures too.

[wild ruin]

I will say for us and the MagTube/Starter, we define the 'split' as detachable magnetic controller mounts, since that is the only thing that detaches.

[mental lance]

Yes, I think so too.

[glad scroll]

That's right, but do you think it would be fair advertising the magtube as a split stock considering the cups split of the main frame? Technically it is true but it's only a small part that splits of, compare to gunstocks where they completely split in two halves.
So unlike a gunstock with a splitting, its splitted gunstock->splitstock

[wild ruin]

I will say for us and the MagTube/Starter, we define the 'split' as detachable magnetic controller mounts, since that is the only thing that detaches.

It's the MagTube, not the SplitTube 👍

[glad scroll]

Pretty much every gunstock has a part that splits in some way, be it just the controller that splits of the gunstock.
Please tell me you at least see the difference with a gunstock that actually splits in two, which would be fair to call splitstock

[tidal anchor]

Stepped out for a walk, this is still going on 🍿

Enjoy your games everyone!

[mental lance]

Half split stock is not the only way to split. And is not the only split stock out there. I consider SKOLVR as a split stock. And consider the front part not only a cup but the part of the frame actually.

I made a frame in it literally.

[glad scroll]

Magtube cups too so that they can attach to the rest

[glad scroll]

With you definition every gunstock is a split stock, which tells me that it's a useless one, and even dishonest one considering you can profit off it

Take a gunstock and split it in two halves. That's a splitstock. Otherwise they're all splitstocks and the term means nothing anymore

Splitstock benefit->nothing sticks out in front of your hand, without having to release the gunstock

That's all

If not then magtube is also a splitstock

[mental lance]

No that's not the only split stock benefit.

[glad scroll]

Never said it was the only benefit

[mental lance]

You said that's all

[glad scroll]

That's all that matters for a gunstock to be a splitstock

Split in two. Magtube also splits in two when you remove a cup. So you have to determine the difference with a gunstock that actually splits in two vs any gunstock where a part splits off

And that difference is: nothing sticks out of the dominant hand, bevause all the rest is splitted of the other hand

Split in two, through the middle in short

[mental lance]

Anyways half split isn't the only way to split by definition. And that's obvious to me.

[glad scroll]

Sure, that I agree

[wild ruin]

If we want to be super technical, this is the base MagTube. The customer then chooses which buttstock (shoulder stock) they want (i.e. classic static stock, adjustable mk2, or ForceTube), 1 point or 2 point sling, and then get mounts for whichever HMD brand they want, and can buy more mounts for other HMD brands, present or future, to use it with every HMD they own throughout their lifetime. The entire thing is very adjustable, and can be fully disassembled or added onto to turn into whatever customer wants if they don't prefer the advertised assembly.

As far as gameplay use is concerned, the controller mounts always stay on the controller. In fact a lot of people don't even take off the mounts when not using the MagTube. With the ProStraps for some HMD brands, the controller mount is quite comfortable to use for non FPS play as well, where there is no benefit other than comfort for use.

Which is why for us, the MagTube (and by extension the Starter) is not a split stock, and not advertised in such a way. Modular? Absolutely. 👍

[glad scroll]

But not to define a whole gunstock as splitstock, because then the split has to be its main purpose

(Your stock profits from the short length at the front to be able to reload and loot, instead of splitting that part)

[mental lance]

I think you just need to accept that your stock is not the only way to split the stock in parts for looting etc.

You can't state that half split is the only way to split, it makes no sense. And your benefit of not interrupting on the front as the main feature is very questionable.

You definitely need to start a Wikipedia page.

And I will correct it then😉

[wild ruin]

Now, this is just my personal opinion as an industry veteran, and not an employee of ProTubeVR, regarding the term split stock, from the perspective of what will help potential customers of all stocks understand things better.

As has been mentioned, it should be easy for customer to understand where the split takes place. In wording, it could also be mentioned the ratio of split. For example the RAIDR is more a 50/50 split (easiest 'textbook' example of a split stock most will be familiar with). While what you two are talking about could be considered something like an 80/20 split or something. I don't think anyone would, at a glance, compare the RAIDR and Butcher or Tamahawk and think they are all 50/50 split stocks. But thinking they are all split stocks, with different ratios, is fair and makes sense.

At least to me, this would help make it easier to understand, and easier to categorize.

I do agree on the notion the 'split' implies the frame itself, or structure itself, and not whatever stays on the controller, and not the stock, be what detaches.

[mental lance]

Can't say more👍

[umbral kettle]

Exactly

[glad scroll]

You're putting words in my mouth, never have I argued any if this. You can just reread what I wrote, I think I've written it well enough for it to make sense unless you purposely avoid understanding it

[mental lance]

Can you see the frame here split?

[glad scroll]

RAIDR/ExoStock and smartstock/tomahawk you can call them both split stocks if you want, but one group splits to make room for hand movement and another group splits to remove the controller like the magtube. There is a clear difference..

[wild ruin]

And I explained how that difference can be listed 👍 With ratio, and additional wording

As you say, the difference is clear. No one is likely to think the RAIDR and Tomahawk etc. are 1:1 the same.

[glad scroll]

Yeah it splits there, so it's a split stock too

[glad scroll]

I mean one group splits like any gunstock to remove the controller, while the other group splits to remove the whole part of the gunstock sticking out of the dominant hand

[wild ruin]

I do agree on the notion the 'split' implies the frame itself, or structure itself, and not whatever stays on the controller, and not the stock, be what detaches.

[mental lance]

💯

[glad scroll]

So one group doesn't provide anything valuable by being labeled as splitstock, while the other group provides something different thus needs to be differentiated as splitstock

[wild ruin]

So really it just sounds like you are arguing about whether or not the place the smart stock splits is part of the frame or structure or what stays on the controller

Does that sum it up?

[glad scroll]

Just read this again

[wild ruin]

Unless you clarify with an answer to my question, to me it just seems like both of you are agreeing so 🙃

[mental lance]

I see the value in the word split stock as you see too.

And that's why MagTube can be used that way in a certain set up.

And that's why not only half split stock is the only split stock either.

[civic ledge]

Anyone got a good gun stock for psvr2

[wild ruin]

We sell the MagTube and Starter for PSVR2, currently on sale 20% off

[civic ledge]

Any links?

[wild ruin]

https://www.protubevr.com/en/gunstock-for-vr-fps/532-7277-psvr-2-vr-gunstock-magtube-best-vr-gun-stock.html#/641-color-red_pla/646-sling-1_point_black_sling/648-armature-chrome_armature/650-shoulder_stock-mk1_static

https://www.protubevr.com/en/pdws-and-cqb-vr-gunstock/617-9064-vr-accessories-starter-psvr-2-budget-cheap-gunstock-close-quarter-combat.html#/641-color-red_pla/648-armature-chrome_armature/701-shoulder_stock-no_stock/702-sling-no_sling

[civic ledge]

Bro 97 quid

[wild ruin]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message for more info on it ^^

it's a premium gunstock with high quality construction built to last for many years

can keep using it as you change headsets, just get new controller mounts for each headset

[wild ruin]

the second link is 40 quid

[glad scroll]

Do you see the difference,
between a gunstock that splits to remove the controller,
and a gunstock that splits to remove the whole part in front of the dominant hand.

I assume yes, then it's a question of both calling them splitstocks or not. The problem is, pretty much all gunstocks are splitstocks in this way, so there is nothing valuable in calling them this way, and you loose the differentiating term for "actual" split stocks that split in 2 ||(to give more hand freedom without having to release it)|| and not just to split the controller away like most gunstocks

[wild ruin]

Can you please just answer: in what way do you think the smart stock splits? That's really the only crux of this whole thing. To me it just seems like everyone here agrees on everything. I have autism, and need more clarification. 🤡

[ripe hamlet]

What gun stock would you prefer for quest 2

[glad scroll]

The smart stock splits in the way of removing the controller cup, which also has some frame but that is a connecting frame just like the magtube controller cup has a frame with magnets to connect to the stock. There is no reason to differentiate it as a split stock since they're all splitstocks anyway with this logic

It makes sense to differentiate a gunstock as a splitstock when the splitting gives something new that other gunstocks don't have, thus the need to differentiate them

[mental lance]

No, the SmartStock splits with the part of the frame. And it's obvious to me at least. But you may consider whatever you like.

[wild ruin]

That's where I disagree then, and why the MagTube is not advertised as a split stock. Because the controller mount is the only thing that detaches. I went into great detail as to why that is not considered part of the frame or structure. For all intents and purposes of all of our products, they are something that goes on the controller, and allows the controllers to work with all of our accessories.

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Sure, someone can, in very loose or broad terms, consider that a split. In the same way they can consider all Firearms to be split firearms, because the magazine comes out.

[glad scroll]

On the picture Skol just send, the frame is only to attach to the mainframe. Otherwise, how would the cup be able to attach without that frame?

[wild ruin]

The controller mounts do not make sense, for our products, to be part of the frame, in the same way the controllers leaving the stock cannot be considered as the stock splitting. Controllers are essentially your virtual hands. Your real hands move from objects to interact them, and controller mounts holding the controllers that detach magnetically do the same thing.

Remember, the goal is to make it easy for a customer to understand what a product is, what it does, and how it does so. If makers need to be oddly specific when using terms, it just creates more confusion, and requires additional understanding from the customer to know what a product is.

I think the notion that all stocks are split stocks is the same as saying all stocks are stocks. By the definition you have expressed.

[hollow gorge]

is the magtube useable for nakeds if i dont know what gun i will have

[glad scroll]

That is how the split is considered in skol's stock though. Sure it has some frame, magtube too, more subtle maybe, but that is only esthetic at best, it's not a split that gives a new advantage in usage to the gunstock. So there is no need to differentiate it as split stock. Compared to split stocks that split with actual frame, frame not just to connect, but the frame that makes the distance between the two controllers, these provide a new advantage, thus the need to differentiate them as splitstocks

[wild ruin]

Absolutely!

[wild ruin]

Yes, there's a few great videos on how to set up the MagTube, using the most common guns as a baseline, and then you just adjust the far tube up or down 1 notch, and maybe adjust the supporting hand controller forward or backward 1 notch, all of which is achieved in seconds once you hold the gun.

[glad scroll]

I think this is clear enough for me to stop here, I can't continue to repeat myself, this is what I mean and is how I see it

[wild ruin]

So the only point of categorizing, based on what you say, is if the distinction is because it has an advantage or new feature others don't?

I feel like that is more subjective than objective, and how things are currently listed is objective.

Could they be more technical and more specific? Absolutely.

But at what point in an essay do people stop paying attention and move on?

[turbid lark]

Is getting a gunstock worth it?

[wild ruin]

here's the guides I was referring to, other video guide in the reddit guide, if that gives you an idea of what to expect before buying

https://clips.twitch.tv/PricklyTubularBarracudaPicoMause-vxFUP585vkUbiZyi

https://youtu.be/AU8k8ZaNrqE?si=QQ4SgVS16BVEduDG

Follow these to set up magtube for tabor

For a quick start guide refer to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProTubeVR/comments/15mfyel/magtube_quick_start_guide_just_received_your/

[hollow gorge]

does that mean i have to have it loose enough to move?

[glad scroll]

Yes, for the customer to make sense to categorize different gunstocks in different categories! There is no reason to call all gunstocks splitstocks because they all have a part that splits off, when some gunstocks actually offer a new advantage by splitting in two.

For the customer, it's easier to differentiate them as they function differently and offer other advantages/disadvantages. Because they split in two for the reasons I gave previous, and not just to remove the controller like any other gunstock.

[wild ruin]

you would only have 2 things 'loose', and by 'loose' I mainly mean just loose enough to move. This is down to preference, some prefer it as stiff as possible. Anything loose can make the stock feel like it wobbles or wiggles. The supporting hand mount angle can freely adjust without wobble because it is smooth internally and not notched. The tube joint is notched, but is easy to have it tight enough to move without losing stiffness

[wild ruin]

sounds like you have a point you can use for advertising your stock then. 👍

[wild ruin]

remember, the MagTube is very adjustable. If you lock it down completely so nothing can move, it cannot adjust at all. This won't be ideal for naked runs when you don't know what guns you will get. Obviously everyone has their preference for stiffness etc. but I've not heard of anyone having problems with naked runs with the MagTube. Refer to the links I shared

[mental lance]

You see it all wrong imo.

Technically the front part of the frame in all of my stocks creates distance between hands and has its own frame. I've just found the right distance and weight balance to my experience. If you didn't do that, that's not your benefit anyways and more a downside to my experience. But that's just my personal experience with thousands of players, nothing more.

And in fact it doesn't allow you to call only a half split stocks the only split stocks on the market anyways.

I will continue to call all of my stocks as the split stocks just for easier comprehension and fast explanation of how to loot with them.

And for you personally I will be adding 20/80 split stock, but by your request only, if will be needed. Just to make you feel better, friend 😉

[wild ruin]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

As for what I've said and my opinion on the whole subject of split stocks, you can see it here. Detailing the reasoning and explanation of MagTube and why it is advertised the way it is, and how I view split stocks could be explained better for customers. Obviously, this isn't all encompassing or comprehensive, or trying to say literally just do this. This is in addition to anything else one would already have listed in description etc.

[glad scroll]

It has been, but it looses its meaning when any gunstock that has a part that splits call their gunstock a splitstock.

They can, and obviously it is technically true, even for the magtube which technically splits, but I'd consider it dishonest to use that term when there are gunstocks that actually function differently thanks to the splitting, which should be called splitstock to differenciate them from other gunstocks. Otherwise It's overshadowing and removing a useful term.

And I respect magtube for not using that term to avoid messing with the customers understand of the gunstocks, even while magtube technically can use it since their controller cups split off the gunstock.

[wild ruin]

It feels like you are viewing the entire gunstock industry through a split stock lens, in a lot of what you say. They are a sub category. In the same way magnetic is a sub category.

I don't think the idea of calling MagTube a split stock has ever crossed our minds. We've been around since 2017. We've stuck to the same philosophies all this time.

[glad scroll]

It's a sub category for sure

Magnetic stock is a good way of differenting with other stocks too

[wild ruin]

You can't control how others advertise their products in the same way we can't control how others advertise their products (or how some talk dirt about us in their advertising)

[glad scroll]

That is the truth, my only wish now is for the term split stock to be respected to gunstocks that actually function differently because of the splitting in two, and not just splitting to remove the controller part. Not even for me, but for the customer's sake.

Because otherwise pretty much any gunstock is a split stock

That doesn't help for the customer to understand the differences between categories

[wild ruin]

You can at least agree though, that anyone with eyes can see the RAIDR and Smartstock aren't the same, yes?

[glad scroll]

Technically they do split so I understand to point to call them split stocks too

[glad scroll]

When you see them yes, but if I recommend the smartstock as a split stock here in chat like it started you can't see the difference through words

[wild ruin]

Which is why product pages exist, images of them exist, etc.

This isn't the marketplace where people only rely on what is said here to buy something. They have to go to a product page to actually buy it. And see what the product looks like, its product description, etc.

Its why I regularly link people to video guides on how to setup MagTube, instead of trying to explain in a sentence or 2

[glad scroll]

That's good

[wild ruin]

and I'd argue the point you made about explaining a stock in this chat could apply to just about any stock, whether its advertised as a split stock or not, whether its described here as a split stock or not. but name dropping a product gives a point of reference for people to research outside of this server, on their preferred search engine.

And also why all of the points I made, referred to product pages, descriptions, and images.

Lastly, no matter how much you simplify something, or explain something, there will always still be people who get confused. There is no perfect product image, name, or description for a gunstock that everyone everywhere of all ages immediately understands.

Why do you think SKOLVR and everyone else is so active in all these servers?

[glad scroll]

wdym?

[mental lance]

He means explanations all day, that's what we do here.

[wild ruin]

^

and the (mostly) passive advertisement as a result

[glad scroll]

oh yeah for sure

providing technical support 😁

[wild ruin]

VR itself is still very new and unfamiliar to a lot of average people, gunstocks even more so

[glad scroll]

indeed

[mental lance]

And trust me guys out there have their own eyes and brains and can see what splits how immediately. On live streaming videos too.

[glad scroll]

I'm not denying yours doesn't split

it's just that there is a difference between splitting to remove the controller like most gunstocks (so no need to differentiate something that pretty much every gunstock does) and splitting to remove the half of the gunstock that can get in the way (which is a different type of gunstock, functions differently thus need a name to be categorized)

[mental lance]

People here may check it all in a second and choose if they like it or not, so I don't get your point about trying to equalize the only half split with the true split stock, not the 80/20 split, or OlenVR asset, or whatever.

Btw why not half of the distance between hands? Who to decide? You?

To each their own imo.

Check the VRifle stock. Very interesting one, and truly one of the first split stocks out there.

Minimum 4 years older than AFK

[glad scroll]

First it's AFK-47, and second what does it have to do with it?

[mental lance]

It's half the distance between hands split.

[glad scroll]

So it'd half split stock, but it still sticks out in front which is unfortunate, not by much though so it will rarely by a problem

[mental lance]

It's not half of the frame. It has the buttstock.

[thick hatch]

I was playing around with a Split Design in Mar 2022

😛

[mental lance]

I've seen VRifle YouTube videos from 2021

[glad scroll]

But again picking stuff on the ground with vrifle you might have to turn your hand for example if it sticks out too much

[mental lance]

That does say nothing about it not being a split stock.

[glad scroll]

I started designing it in nov 2023

[glad scroll]

Yes it does

Because there is a difference between splitting to remove thr controller and splitting the gunstock for more freedom of movement

[thick hatch]

Basically... you have relative 50/50 splits... and 80/20 or 90/10 or Just controller resting on the end...

What constitutes a "mid-split"... is it actual middle or within 60%... or is it anything that technically separates the two hands without have to detach from the base/sling?

[mental lance]

Call it straight ground picking stock then.

Though to turn it is so easy.

[glad scroll]

Well you can call smart stock a split stock but then magtube and every other gunstock is also a split stock so you're making the term loose its distinction

[thick hatch]

Mid-Split Stock vs Split Stock vs Rest Stock vs Sling Stock

[glad scroll]

Splitting to remove the controller doesn't make it another type of gunstock so no need to categorize it with other split stocks that are actually another type of gunstock

Also some early idea drawings for the funsies

[mental lance]

No, surely. MagTube is a MagTube. Though it may be set up similar to raidr state. With any distance between hands and not fixed. MagTube is a Lego. As UltiStock btw.

I am absolutely sure VRifle considered your type of splitting, as I did before making it split exactly the way I did. And we did that not eventually.

I think to each their own split. And see no arguments your split is any better. And surely it's not the only split stock to be called split stock.

[glad scroll]

Never said mine is better, only different. And different enough to be categorized as "split stock" in the likes of Raidr and Exostock and some 3d printable options, which all use the same split stock functionality, as the gunstock actually splits in two and not just the controller cup and functions differently. It's defined enough to make it a distinct category.

I know very well that pretty much every other gunstock also splits in some way, but these splitting don't change how the gunstock is operated thus no purpose in categorizing them as split stock for the consumer