#đŸ”«ăƒ»vr-gunstock-chat

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edgy flower
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They’re not meant to be super strong as you won’t be able to take them apart otherwise đŸ€Ș

ancient temple
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alright, thanks il see how it performs in raids

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also you are supposed to hold it supported on your dominant hand shoulder, correct?

rugged berry
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How else would you hold it

ancient temple
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no idea actually, thanks

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do i have to manually calibrate this gunstock?

hardy osprey
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Most likely not

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Go to market place and see

ashen hull
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Disable virtual gunstock and physical

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Should be strong enough to keep it together when you're playing, they're not designed to hold together and you just let go

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Feel free to ask support for advice

ancient temple
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physical aswell?

ashen hull
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Yup

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I have both disabled

ancient temple
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ok, it doesnt need calibration

ashen hull
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For the vast majority of guns, yes you'll be good without it🙂

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some skav guns aka SMGS and SKS for instance are weird

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That pink looks awesome!

ancient temple
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yeah i went with pink just becouse why not

ashen hull
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@ancient temple what's your timezone?

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or what time is it for you rn

ancient temple
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oh i know what you're tryna do :3

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4:53 pm

ashen hull
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Fancy playing later?

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It's 15:53 here for me

ancient temple
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yeah sure, just letting you know i am 14\15 and im not a very experienced english speaker

ashen hull
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Ahhh okay, fair play. Maybe not 😄

ancient temple
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yeah, i mean we'll see

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for now i want to see it with a full kit

ashen hull
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Lmk how you get on with the stock. I can give tips if needs be

ancient temple
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yep, thanks

ashen hull
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np dude!

ancient temple
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my hand position is a little off-set when i want to grab my primary, i need to grab it before joining the magnets together

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dunno if i should try to fix it or ignore it

ashen hull
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Yes, you should grab the weapon before snapping together.

ancient temple
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oh alright, thanks )

ashen hull
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npnp

frozen tiger
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Whatever you do do not buy the c-grip gun stock my tomahawk gun stock should be coming in very soon. They even gave me a newer improved model there coming out with. Just takes a long time because it’s coming from Germany

rugged berry
frozen tiger
rugged berry
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$50

thorn ore
hardy osprey
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That stock of yours is at most 15% infil and I would say it’s less than that. Should be at least 25%. However I have mine and no issues. The stock is not meant to be twisted and torqued on.

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I will say if you do what you did in the second video to other 3d print stocks it’ll do that same though.

ashen hull
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Heck, that would probably happen in the second video with 99% of stocks on the market

glad scroll
frozen tiger
hardy osprey
frozen tiger
glad scroll
hardy osprey
frozen tiger
ashen hull
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Nothing to do with being a man lol... If I try the strength you did on a plate I'm sure it would crack... fucking shit plates tbh. 👀

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Imagine thinking its cheaply made then just tearing it apart instead of just using it... What a waste

glad scroll
# hardy osprey Send me one I’ll prove you wrong

Mine is very different from his, 4 walls instead of what seems like 1 in the video, more infill with especially better infill patern (I use gyroid instead of grid like his), PETG instead of weak PLA, and from the video it's clear that the layer adhesion is very bad, which is due to lack of walls and possibly using the part cooling fan for faster printer (makes the filament hard quicker but less time for layers to bond).
This is what makes the difference in part strength/quality.
Although I agree you're not supposed to tear it apart in the first place, so the product shouldn't be evaluated on that, but it is still shocking to see for it to be that fragile

frozen tiger
ashen hull
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I get that but like why was your first thought to just tear it apart?

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crackle isn't broken

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Could have used it longer to get another, anyway it doesn't matter.

frozen tiger
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In the game, I mean the left wrist was twisted and awkward

ashen hull
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Nice one! You'll definitely notice a quality difference.

SkolVR appears to be a high quality option, this of course results in it being heavier than the cgrip

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which won't matter as you are "man and not no weak ass lol" 😂

rugged berry
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Also 4x the price, so at least 4x the quality is expected

ashen hull
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Indeed

frozen tiger
ashen hull
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Idk about that 😂 We'll agree to disagree lol

frozen tiger
ashen hull
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I got the joke haha

hardy osprey
ashen hull
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send what?

hardy osprey
ashen hull
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true hahaha

frozen tiger
# ashen hull send what?

When Arthur was talking about testing and about how mine was very thin-walled and stuff that’s because he makes his own. He has 3-D printer and sells them

ashen hull
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Oh awesome, website ?

frozen tiger
glad scroll
# hardy osprey I’m waiting for you to send me one

You'll have to buy it if you want it, it's a lot of work I cannot afford it to send it for free to people just like that. However, the crash test video and big differences in printing (material and density) should already tell enough. If you want I can make more resistance test videos though

glad scroll
ashen hull
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Nice

ancient temple
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how do yall take off the little ring around the controllers? is that a feature in the meta quest 3 or what

frozen tiger
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By the way, the tomahawk from skol upgraded to having some of the butcher stuff added to it and it’s more adjustable now he said I just got it at the right time. They just switched over. And you could message the guy who makes him through Facebook. He’s really nice and seems like a really cool guy been having conversations with him since I ordered it. It takes like a month to get to you because of he makes it then sense it from Germany.

rugged berry
ancient temple
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ah

rugged berry
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All the IR emitters are on the face of the controller, and I believe there is one in the grip

glad scroll
hardy osprey
winter abyss
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I ned chep gonsok

hardy osprey
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Cgrip

winter abyss
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Ty’s

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Tysm

strong creek
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Best gunstock?

hardy osprey
strong creek
hardy osprey
lost ruin
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is there a good gunstock for htc vive controllers ?

silk cypress
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For the ulti what is the forearm brace and end grip? Is it needed

hardy osprey
fervent blaze
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whats a good meta quest 3 gunstock that budget and works well

silk cypress
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I see the picture but I don't understand the front end grip

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Is it needed?

rugged berry
silk cypress
rugged berry
silk cypress
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Yes the red right

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Wtf is that used for lol

rugged berry
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Blue is the forearm brace, you rest your forearm against it and it's quite stable and comfortable

steep orbit
rugged berry
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The red is the Front end grip type 1

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The yellow is front end grip type 2

silk cypress
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Yes the blue is needed 100%

rugged berry
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If that's what you are looking for, then yes

steep orbit
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These are my configurations

rugged berry
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The forearm brace works great imo

silk cypress
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For this game. Is the yellow ir red needed?

rugged berry
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Preference

silk cypress
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Or*

steep orbit
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I use forarm for breachers and Pavlov. And the half cup Front end grip 2 for Tabor

rugged berry
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Honestly a lot of people like the blue one for this game because your constantly switching guns and adding grips and such

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And it's intended to be more flexible

steep orbit
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Taaccoo MVP with the explanation đŸ„ł

silk cypress
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Ok I understnad now. Thx

rugged berry
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Also if you aren't sure what you want, the full kit gives you all 3 options

silk cypress
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The one for 93 comes with the front wnd grip aswell

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I mean forearm brace

rugged berry
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It doesn't unfortunately

silk cypress
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So I pick one or the other

rugged berry
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If you want both options, you'd either want to get the full kit, or get the forearm brace/front end version, then order the other separately in the replacement parts listing

silk cypress
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Ok I understand.....tyty

rugged berry
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And also if you want the type 1 or type 2 front end grip, make sure you specify. Type 1 is the little Z shaped bars, type two is the cup

silk cypress
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And obviously you dominant hand is the one that you don't aim with

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Yea I'm gonna go with the forearm brace

steep orbit
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Which ever hand pulls the Trigger is the hand you order

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So RH is for my right hand I pull the trigger with

upper vale
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whats a relatively inexpensive gunstock that is actually good

storm swan
storm swan
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For the record everything was there, it took me a bit to understand. 😅

serene relic
peak torrent
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jk you go to roles

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and react to the fish one

ancient temple
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after playing a bit with 7thvr its insanely nice

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after a bit from the loose magnets i found them beeing perfectly balanced

pure crown
ancient temple
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very

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and i got pink

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i tried sticking anime stickers on the gunstock but my printer ran out of ink, it would've been an insane gunstock then

pure crown
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I’ll buy collector armor for 400k anyone down to sell it for me don’t want the gun just the helmet and chest

pure crown
ancient temple
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yeah i checked it today and it was sold out, i ordered like second day after mq2 release aswell

hardy osprey
proper cipher
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how are people finding the tabor stock now that it's been around a bit?

proper cipher
hardy osprey
proper cipher
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ahh

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but the design is good other than that?

rugged berry
# proper cipher but the design is good other than that?

I mean it's a tried and true design, but the cups just don't stay in place and they also don't hold the controller very well, also heard some things about scratches left on the controller, and the little nubs holding the rubber in place pushing into your palm and being uncomfortable

proper cipher
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just got some knuckles straps and they make my current poverty-stock unusable

silk cypress
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I still don't understand how people are using stocks with out a twist design for the controller which is pretty much every magnet stock

wheat vault
silk cypress
wheat vault
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That’s what the gunstock I use has it and I like it a lot

silk cypress
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The magnet ones are the issue for this game.

ancient temple
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any1 else finding the 7thvr gunstock cups not fitting the meta quest 2 controllers perfectly? i feel like they are falling out and moving every time i do something

silk cypress
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Tape lol

ancient temple
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i know its not supposed to be cemented into the gunstock but i feel like the controllers move too much

silk cypress
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Isn't the 7thvr magnet?

ancient temple
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yep

silk cypress
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Before aiming

ancient temple
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i didnt, i just ran with it and it worked fine

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i can feel the guns a little offset to the right but its mostly fine

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doesnt obstruct me in any way

silk cypress
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So before you aim. Yow have to line up your controller to your gun, then put the gun in the stock...then aim the gun

ancient temple
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my controllers are always in my stock, i just grip the gun and connect the magnets

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the gunstock is on my right shoulder supported to where i can easily aim

silk cypress
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How do you grip the aim hand while your controller is in the stock? Do you have to first move the stock so it reaches the front end of your weapon? Or is the front end of the weapon already lined up of the front end of the physical stock? If that makes sense lol

ancient temple
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oh no, the physical stock is perfectly lined up with most smgs and assault rifles

silk cypress
ancient temple
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honestly no idea, i just used the gunstock and it was a perfect fit for all of my weapons in base

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excluding pistols

silk cypress
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I just came lined up ont the box?

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Out*

ancient temple
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yeah, i guess so

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it wasnt a feature it was just lucky that it was perfectly lined up

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the length is optimal for any assault rifles aswell

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if you want a very perfect fit you can fiddle around with some gunstock calibration, but i found no use in doing such

silk cypress
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Can you take a screen shot (in game) of your (ingane) hands lined up with your stock without grabbing actually grabbing it

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I just would like to see where the lines are placed

ancient temple
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yeah if you give me 2 minutes

silk cypress
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Tyty

ancient temple
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so you mean show just how the hands are positioned whilst the stock is in use?

silk cypress
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Not but in use and stationary plz

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Both in stock and stationary without holding anything plz*

ancient temple
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sure

silk cypress
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So don't raise the stock just grab the weapon while stationary

ancient temple
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alright GOT is just updating

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how do i send screenshots btw? never have sent one b4

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cuz i cant open the meta quest 2 app on my phone

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im almost done but i gtg to sleep asap

silk cypress
silk cypress
gray meteor
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just got a gun stock and whenever i put the controllers on the stock sometime it will loose tracking when i take the controllers on and off the stock any one else have this issue?

royal wagon
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q3? make sure you disable the option to shake controllers to enable hand tracking

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will cause havoc

jolly hare
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What’s the best gunstock for tabor?

royal wagon
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Magtube

astral prawn
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How do I fix this? I was trying to calibrate gunstock for the smg that didn't work properly, always aiming up and then I noticed it completely messed up the hand pitch rotation, resetting calibration didn't help.

ashen hull
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Restart the game maybe?

rugged berry
ancient temple
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today i want to do some more raids l8ter becouse every raid i did was dry with no pvp

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free loot atleast

pure crown
silk cypress
edgy flower
ancient temple
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the gunstock is doing wonders, just killed a fullkit and got orange

ancient temple
rugged berry
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Also that stock should not be $64 dollars more than the normal version

hardy osprey
rugged berry
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I looked up the cost difference in filament, it's like $5, even smaller of a difference when you consider how much of a thing is actually used per stock

hardy osprey
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It’s a vanity thing

edgy flower
hardy osprey
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They look extremely thin. I hope they don’t break

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Oh yea ultistock came today

rugged berry
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My extra parts for it are coming today

royal wagon
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get a pistol and figure out a hand pitch rotation angle that makes sense, im on index and +7 seems to be natural. then follow the guide for gunstock calibration

ashen hull
ashen hull
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Has his name and the number of the stock he got

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which for him was worth it đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

pure crown
ashen hull
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Also Quest 3 and 2 with storage, steam deck with storage

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etc etc

mental lance
# edgy flower

That glowing plastic looks epic. Bet maker spent not less than one full day on it to make it look so smooth and finished. Full respect to that maker and to the client who cares and who supports him like that having smthn not ordinary in return.

mental lance
rugged berry
# ashen hull Also Quest 3 and 2 with storage, steam deck with storage

While those things are overly upcharged, they do add value and functionality to the product. You wouldn't say a playstation 5 vs a playstation 5 pro is the same thing as a recolor in plastic. The former has a difference in product cost and you are literally getting a better product by paying more (also you're paying like $100 more, which in comparison to what you get in a different colored stock, and in comparison to the base price of a ps5, is good value)

ashen hull
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Cosmetic shell for PS5 is ÂŁÂŁÂŁ

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that's not functional

rugged berry
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Also, skols limited edition is like $40 more or something, that's a 40% upcharge or less. The 7thvr is a 100% upcharge, and missing the reputation and time in business to match. I don't care that any company offers special editions, fair play. Cosmetics are no problem to me. It's the price of such cosmetics that can seem greedy, overly high.

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Whatever, it's their choice, it's just really needlessly expensive

ashen hull
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It's not just the colour though, it's limited to 5 sales which Skol isn't also has his name added to it with his unit

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I'm getting one, I think it's worth it

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Hype for him

rugged berry
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Oh, artificial scarcity, even worse

ashen hull
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the pic he sent is wicked

rugged berry
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Nothing like introducing fomo into the mix

ashen hull
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It'll never come out again, I'm happy with that

mental lance
rugged berry
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Again cosmetics are fine, and charging more for them is fine as well, for various reasons, I'm just commenting that I think it's a bit overly much, all things considered. And fomo is always a cheap tactic, and a poor excuse of a selling point.

ancient temple
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yeah i do have to agree with you the 7thvr limited edition stock prices are way too much even for cosmetics

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its usually 250 zƂ in our country but with some glowstick and text its suddenly 570zƂ (around that)

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which is a huge expense for a pvc pipe and glowstick filling 3d print, its stable and very helpfull dont get me wrong but for that money i could get so much like a realistic airsoft m4 rifle

mental lance
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Btw OlenVR makes cosmetic nonstop. Their own choice. The matter of preferences.

mental lance
hardy osprey
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Terrible design, cool shop

mental lance
modern hare
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What’s the best pistol in tabor

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Is it the glock or tarkov

ancient temple
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glock

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or usp

open night
ancient temple
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im still malding about that epic 1v5 becouse of my 7thvr (without it i'd never pull it off) full kits laying on the ground, me predicting more players and playing safe but they still buttfuckme instant headshot

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thats one hell of a loss

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hey, atleast the gunstock is working

uncut loom
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What gunstock do you guys recommend?

royal wagon
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Magtube

ancient temple
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7thvr from experience

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magtube, onestock these are all very high quality and amazing gunstocks as ragesaq recommends

lyric timber
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Full carbon fiber magtube if you want the best.

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or the one with the recoil pack is even 1 up on that

cyan urchin
faint anchor
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im new. is an Ak 109 alpha good? I just extracted with it

lean turret
jaunty vault
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Does anyone know if you can use the extended controller grips for the quest 2 with the mag tube?

tender coral
slow topaz
tender coral
slow topaz
# tender coral Does it work well

I haven’t tried it yet but I suppose so, SkolVR is like very premium quality. It’s also different in design from all the other gun stocks, you can look it up

slow topaz
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Check out BrandoDrumVR’s gun stocks too if you want something budget friendly

hidden pecan
# edgy flower

This looks like it can help with tracking a bit in the dark

steep orbit
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Basic functions in Tabor with the Ultistock 😎

wise cipher
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guys do you have any good cheap gunstock?

open night
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@wise cipher Check pinned. There's a list of gunstocks.

wise cipher
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what do you think to handmade gunstock>

open night
wise cipher
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i can try 🙂

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ty bro @open night

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when i got gunstock in options i need select psychical gunstock ye>?

open night
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There is some help in pinned messages about calibration.

wise cipher
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okay

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@open night

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i have little problem

open night
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?

wise cipher
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BC my dominion hand is right

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but my dominion eye is left

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and what i need to do in this situation ? 😄

open night
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Hm, I think you'll need to practice that then, try to make it work.

wise cipher
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okay okay

gloomy blade
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i dont understand how people calibrate, ive looked at every video ive tried different methods but my guns are always fucked

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its very inconsistent, i have a magtube and every time i get the calibration right, i will put on my sling and when i ads again its changed

hardy osprey
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You need to delete your save file its bugged sounds like

winged portal
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Dude i thought the magtube was expensive, but i saw a gunstock called onestock that looked pretty good, but when i saw that i cost 170 euros, my jaw dropped. Are we crazy? it doesn't even have magnets, its almost all plastics for f+ck sake

lethal hatch
quasi hare
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Can I 3D print a gun stock and then just build a type of thing to hold my controllers with said 3D printed gun stock?

hollow light
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Anyone ude forcetube stock and indexcontroller? Have real tracking issues with the kick.. down at 14percent but index still loses tracking when kick activates?

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Use*

versed dragon
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has there been any update on the replacement parts for the RADR. or am i just slow

hardy osprey
gloomy blade
# steep orbit

Yeah thing is, when i try ads with the sks its super low down

quasi hare
gloomy blade
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its so weird, then i calibrate ingame and i fix it during calibration but when i holster it and pick it back up its still low down

steep orbit
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Hmm and you turned “on” physical gun stock right?

gloomy blade
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Yeah, ill hop back onto the game later and test it out again bc i dont wanna have to refund it

steep orbit
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I’d also delete your save data. You on PC or Quest

gloomy blade
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how?

steep orbit
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It’s different for what you’re on

gloomy blade
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Steam

steep orbit
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Possible solution for issues with local savefiles

Try deleting save files

  • (may) Fix issues with local save file:

Quest standalone:

Go to quest settings -> storage then search for ghosts of Tabor and delete the app data (not the game itself, there is two separate buttons)

Pcvr:

  • Windows Key + R
  • Copy this into the "Open":
    %localappdata%\GhostsOfTabor\Saved\

Delete following folder:
%localappdata%\GhostsOfTabor\Saved

Alternatively for both platforms:

Go into the in-game menu, select profile and then press on "reset missions"

Important note:

You might lose your currently active quests, favourites and settings (your loot, money and trader progress is stored on the server and will therefore not be deleted)

(Thanks @lethal sinew for formatting and refining)

gloomy blade
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Cheers imma look into that

gloomy blade
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its so annoying, the SKS is like always super low

steep orbit
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even if you raise it up?

gloomy blade
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yeah

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ive calibrated it ingame multiple times

steep orbit
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with the bolt action?

gloomy blade
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so i can ads and when i holster it and try adsing it is super low

steep orbit
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it uses the bolt action calibration not rifle

gloomy blade
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...

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I checked the wiki and it was classed as a rifle

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mb lmaoo, lemme check rq

steep orbit
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im sorry man 😅

wraith lintel
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where is the Ultistock sold

steep orbit
gloomy blade
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ffs

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fixed it but for some reason my ingame hands are in my eyes

steep orbit
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aww man Hazza 😂 well at least you got a starting point

gloomy blade
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lmaoooo mb for wastin ur time

steep orbit
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nah man its all good

gloomy blade
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thats jokes lmaoo

steep orbit
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i get on here to see whats up when on breaks

gloomy blade
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ive been raging for like 30min and it was my fault lmaoo

steep orbit
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happens to the best of us haha

gloomy blade
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yeah man

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any idea why my hand is like in my face when using the sks?

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i wish i could screenshot

steep orbit
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yeah its just the whole way calibration works in this game is wonky. since the grip on bolt actions is weird or different then modern rifles it kinda doesnt really reflect where your hand should be

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i would push away the stock in calibration

crisp horizon
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im thinking about buying the magtube gunstock good choice?

royal wagon
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very good choice

fast karma
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@junior jay

rapid snow
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So I’m looking to get a sorta budget gun stock, I have a quest 2 and I’m just curious what’re some good ones

rapid snow
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I have those side grip covers on my controllers and I don’t mind if I have to take it off but I’d like something along the lines with grips and stuff

rapid snow
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7th vr looks pretty solid

pure crown
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I have 7thvr and i can vouch for it

rapid snow
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Idk about the ultistock

pure crown
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I have also ordered an ultistock and it’s on the way

rapid snow
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I mean it’s just at those far engagements I feel like I can’t hit anything

rapid snow
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Because I’m in an in between

pure crown
rapid snow
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Got it yea try it out and let me know how it goes

pure crown
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Ultistock is well respected in the vr gunstock community i have only heard good things about it

rapid snow
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I just kinda like they magnetic detachment from the controllers in certain ones

pure crown
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I’ll send you a dm to show you how 7thvr looks split

rapid snow
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Thank you I appreciate it

pure crown
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No worries

silent tiger
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I just got a gun stock and I went into calibrating it. I calibrated it as best I could on the game. I have a magnifying glass stock. The problem I’ve been seeing is it messes up with my hand pitch rotation. Has any one else gone through this?

pure crown
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Also one more thing, 7thvr is strong for a 3D print ive dropped it and not a scratch @rapid snow

rapid snow
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As well as 4 big ass dogs

pure crown
ancient temple
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d33lux i just extracted an m1sass, the gunstock is insane

pure crown
jaunty sigil
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I play mostly on Valve index controllers but also on Quest sometimes (quest 2 rn but may get a 3 later). Any gunstock recommendations that will work with both? Or do I need 2 separate gunstocks?

royal wagon
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magtube + buy the extra cups for the other controller type

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added benefit of your alignment should be the same

jaunty sigil
smoky iris
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Are gun stocks worth it?

royal wagon
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everyone here will say yes

hybrid bough
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How do u even use a gun stock I mean Ik like the basics

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But like ?

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like ik u put your controllers in the slots and stuff but like

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How do I take them out so u can grab stuff

royal wagon
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varies per design, on the magtube its trivial. theres a slight twist you do an the stock drops off, and the magnets are strong so you snap them on pretty easily too

rugged berry
# hybrid bough How do I take them out so u can grab stuff

Some designs, magnets are attached to the controllers and the controllers snap to the stock itself (such as the magtube). Others, the stock has a magnet in the middle and half the stock goes with one hand, half goes with the other (like the raidr) and then some have an open cup, so you hold the controller to the stock, and then you let go of the stock and just hold the controller (such as the onestock). Lastly, there are stocks designed to be one handed, and only one controller is actually in the stock and the whole stock goes with the one controller (Ultistock)

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Those are the most popular

glad scroll
regal fox
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what are some cheap gun stocks i have the stock but it broke after it flung out of my controller

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i stock

swift elm
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Has anyone gotten the new tabor controller cups yet?

royal wagon
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dont think they have even been made yet

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i havent seen any details

jaunty vault
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Does anyone know if you can use the extended controller grips for the quest 2 with the mag tube?

silver valve
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Do any of y’all know some stores that sell gunstocks in person, I don’t have a credit card so I’m not really able to buy one

pure crown
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yeah same

hardy osprey
pure crown
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Is the istock gaming stock a good option

hardy osprey
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no

hollow zinc
gray meteor
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do quest 2 stocks work for quest 3? thinking of getting a quest 3 soon just wondering if i’ll need a new gunstock aswell

trim sentinel
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well it depends if its a lower or upper mount

tired delta
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What the cheapest gunstock and were can I find it

trail ingot
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Is the olen spine good for this game?

true sluice
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Just remember you get out what you put in - examine reviews before you buy

serene kettle
pure crown
leaden grail
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can you use the 7thvr with amvr grips

fickle venture
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Anyone know a decent gun stock around $100

pure crown
autumn rose
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im thinking about 3d printing a gun stock, thoughts? and tips?

hybrid bough
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Yo does anyone know like if the raidr gunstock is good ?

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Might get one

hasty hound
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way to heavy and the weight is badly distributed and the controller mounts are wobbly and bad

hasty hound
grim bough
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I bought the CgripVR after seeing an add on tiktok, it has a tabor mod for it, once it arrives ill give a review

quasi plover
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Is Scott restocking the gunstock because I bought the butt stock attachment thinking it was the entire thing

royal wagon
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Nobody knows

rugged berry
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Too confusing

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I don't get them instead of selling a gunstock, just selling a gun_______

gray island
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I have about 110$ any gunstock recommendations?

upbeat ridge
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I need a M1 SAS dm if you can give

trail pike
upbeat ridge
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But I’m broke

trail pike
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I cant give it out i am sorry

upbeat ridge
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Mm ok

trail pike
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im talking about tk in game money btw

upbeat ridge
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Ik

trail pike
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ok

steep orbit
upbeat ridge
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Got anything I can have

trail pike
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i can help you and anything we get you can have

upbeat ridge
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Ok oculus name

trail pike
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roeaz

upbeat ridge
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Sent it

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Umm hello

upbeat lake
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Hello I would like a cheap recommendation for a gun stock any idea?

wise pendant
vivid bluff
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lf a duo (i have a gunstock)

steep orbit
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the forearm brace is pretty bad ass for Tabor, you can switch out all the attatchments and be able to just adjust your arm

winter abyss
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I need cheap gu

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Gunstock

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Spent almost all my money on Independence Day

gritty flame
#

Since the general chat is dead.
Thoughts on the AKM vs the AK74? I use a stock so I can't run grips very well so I never full auto and I do best single firing the AKs. Does anyone here know if the Alpha can run full auto decently without a grip?

silent leaf
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anyone got a gunstock that's not over 100$

obtuse kettle
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Yes

obtuse kettle
silent leaf
steep orbit
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Ultistock by BrandoVR

polar tusk
# steep orbit Ultistock by BrandoVR

Thanks. I think that Forearm brace idea is genius. Im gonna check it out. Way better Idea than the ones that have you drop the controller in a slot

steep orbit
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I’ve gone back and forth with the front end grips and the forearm, the forearm just feels more fluid and I’ve been landing all my shots. So I think I’m gonna use that for awhile

nova furnace
rugged berry
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Eh

cursive falcon
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MagTube from ProTube is a really good gunstock after using it for some time. I'm considering getting this Forcetube haptic feedback. Anyone have any experience with it?

jaunty vault
cursive falcon
nova furnace
royal wagon
nova furnace
river orchid
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Is there a way you can configure the gunstock for individual guns? The AK is nice but the m4 feels way worse

cursive falcon
crystal sedge
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hi,
I've got a provolver with a magtube, it's wonderful. But for now it seems that it doesnt work on Ghost of Tabor (got it since yesterday). Normally it should work natively.
Anyone know what is happening ?

clear sable
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anymore news about the ghost raidr vr gunstock?

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tabor raider

hardy osprey
arctic magnet
hardy osprey
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Last update was new parts coming

hardy osprey
arctic magnet
hardy osprey
arctic magnet
hardy osprey
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Man I wish this game had an age limit

arctic magnet
hardy osprey
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Of course not

arctic magnet
cursive falcon
# arctic magnet I cant tell if that's sarcasm lmao

I managed by accident to scare a kid in the Silo by accident once. The kid might have just have been 6-8 years old. I think it's not directly healthy for such small kids to play games like these in VR, since they cant fully differ fiction from reality. Like for those young kids, seen from their eye's in VR, processed thru their pre-mature brain, a place like Silo with all the dark corners and the ambient sounds, might be seen much of an reality, in the moment.

cursive falcon
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"Ghosts of Tabor all platforms (bringing back in the future, on PC support was crashing game, no eta)" - About the haptic support at ProTube Discord. Then they are aware at least.

crystal sedge
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Ok thx !

fervent socket
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Is tabor stock fixed yet

hollow light
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Sends the rumble from controller to provolver . Not perfect but works

crystal sedge
hardy osprey
hardy osprey
wild ruin
cursive falcon
# hardy osprey No they shouldn’t but their parents don’t care.

yes, it's careless for sure.Maybe they come from a place where the school takes care of childrearing when parents are at work from morning
till evening and don't have time neither the energy to raise their own children. So they just park their kid in front of the computer, as it's been for years really.

hardy osprey
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I got my ultistock but haven’t had time to use it yet

crystal sedge
cursive falcon
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It's on GitHub

wild ruin
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Never said it was on Steam. It is on our website. But it only works with SteamVR games.

crystal sedge
crystal sedge
wild ruin
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go to the support drop down from home page, go to either tutorials or haptic compatibility

cursive falcon
pure crown
cursive falcon
pure crown
cursive falcon
pure crown
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I don’t live in the USA so most packages i order need to go through customs

cursive falcon
# pure crown It’s not stuck just awaiting inspection

Yes, we have customs in my country too what is Norway, but the taxation is either made by the company, or the tax is requested by the recipient. No need to be stuck in customs when the delivery company like DHL are taking care of the taxation.

pure crown
pure crown
cursive falcon
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The normal import tax (VAT) I think is 25% for the most part everywhere.

ancient temple
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yo d33 i just extracted a ronin a geartech a saiga and g3ak, 7thvr is god (naked run found sks)

pure crown
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Anyone know what area istock gaming ships there stocks from

hardy osprey
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What did you get

sharp smelt
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Anyone have a good stock they would recommend for quest 3

hardy osprey
sharp smelt
livid quarry
versed vine
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This gunstock was 30 bucks on Amazon it has detachable magnetic handles, made from pvc. this gunstock is crazy

storm swan
#

Going through the instructions that are pinned for calibration. Does this mean I have to delete my save file and start the game over
?

rugged berry
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itll reset your settings, progress data isnt stored locally

storm swan
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Ah ok, ty

umbral vapor
# versed vine

Can you ping me with the link, I’ve been looking for one but they are all so expensive

lone slate
# versed vine

I was gonna get it but didn't know if it was worth it is it any good?

versed vine
versed vine
pure crown
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Does anyone have any pistol type ones?

versed vine
versed vine
lone slate
versed vine
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It comes with everything you need it’s two separate parts that you just quickly attach and you’re pretty much ready to play

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They use little screws to attach the pipes together but again if you really wanted to you could just use some pipe glue

versed vine
cedar shoal
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Does anybody have a file that I can 3d print for free

tough spruce
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You do not need to delete the savefile to fix your calibrations. Reset default then leave the hand rotation alone and recalibrate your guns.

ancient temple
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my 7thvr got a little crack in the controllers holder, if i continue to use to it they will break into 2 pieces, any ideas on how to fix?

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maybe superglue

pure crown
ancient temple
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i guess getting a ronin helmet came with a cost

pure crown
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Did you remove the battery covers of the controllers ?

ancient temple
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nope, as i heard these are gen 2's dont need the removal

pure crown
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Yeah

pure crown
ancient temple
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why would i contact support? i thought just super glue it and ride it out

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didnt know they were going to actually do something about a thing I MYSELF broke

pure crown
ancient temple
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yeah no, i think my best bet is just superglue it and it will hold for good

ancient temple
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but hey, it allowed me to get a ronin helmet

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7thvr for the win

pure crown
ancient temple
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top tier add

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for a random gunstock

rich ocean
# ancient temple yeah no, i think my best bet is just superglue it and it will hold for good

Check what they are making the cups from and make sure it wont react with glue. Sometimes its desired effect to melt plastic. There are definitely glues that will be stronger than this 3d print but for me its a stress crack and they should replace it. It should be able to withstand gameplay its not made to sit pretty on your shelf. I would contact the support maybe they will upgrade their design.

ancient temple
# rich ocean Check what they are making the cups from and make sure it wont react with glue. ...

well now i either contact support, embarass myself and if i do get the replacement it will take so long again, i honestly can barely play without 7thvr, il super glue it next day but im not sure about that support. About that crack, its from me gripping 7thvr a little too hard, i wasnt throwing it around or anything it was just progressively getting bigger the more i played with the gunstock.

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and anyways, the gunstock is sold out

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unlesss they provide replecements even if the gunstock is out of stock

rich ocean
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they will and yes you might need to wait for parts. (gripping hard is not a misuse its a design flaw than).

ancient temple
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well then i will try to contact support, and explain how all i did was grip it too hard, if they provide extra parts thats amazing, if they dont then il stick to superglue

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anyhow what would misuse be considered? how can you misuse a simple gunstock?

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oh also the guarantee is a 7 day one, i have it for 14 days now. does that invalidate my damages?

mental lance
ancient temple
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best scenario i get d33lux as the agent, he knows what up already 😂

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also wouldnt i need to pay for shipping for my replacement parts? just the shipping alone costs 75% of the gunstock, so that would have not been worth it

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and tax

mental lance
ancient temple
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i'd hope so, my dad is really sceptical if i should make the call to try and get replacement parts

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i think i will do either way, even if its just for the good of the future 7thvr stock designs

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also reflecting back to this, its a 7 day quality guarantee, i know its not misuse but i surely wont get it back after more then 14 days, right?

mental lance
ancient temple
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i will, thanks

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il get it figured out, just going to wait untill my dad goes to bed becouse why not

ancient temple
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surely support answers at 1 am

polar kelp
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Whats the best and cheapest gunstock?

rich ocean
rich ocean
rich ocean
rich ocean
steel jewel
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Wish I had gun stock but I'm broke

hexed mirage
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Well 150 for just a stick, no thanks xD Even with money

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Is magnet design good or nah?

ancient temple
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magnet design is optimal fast easy and reliable

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from experience, magnets are cool

hexed mirage
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alr tyty

carmine finch
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what’s your opinion on fixed vr gunstocks?

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and should i buy one?

royal wagon
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do not recommend, you need something adjustable for a ton of reasons

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did the person who designed the gunstock make it for the optimal size of your body? very unlikely, they made it for theirs

elder vortex
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who trading purp

elder vortex
uncut panther
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I don’t know if playing with a gunstock is worth it I usually just play without and get good kills I have a cheap one that is ass so I don’t use it that’s why I don’t know if it’s worth it

wild escarp
#

is the Magni Stock+ VR Carbon Fiber Controller Stock Adapter for the valve index good?

tired canopy
#

i give you the timmy tickler v2 lol yeah i used the deadshot elite as inspiration lol

glad scroll
tired canopy
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Fresh of the 3d printer lol a mate wanted strong so he got the thiccc boy đŸ€Ł

stoic wedge
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I want a gunstock but don’t know which one to get

heady hatch
ashen hull
tired canopy
rugged berry
ashen hull
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Depends how he broke it really

rugged berry
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He said he gripped it too hard, so I assume he was playing normally and just holding it tight

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It shouldn't break under those conditions

ashen hull
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Ahh makes sense, well he seems happy with his fix so I'll pass the info on đŸ«Ą

primal dawn
tired canopy
# primal dawn Would be nice if a Q3 variant existed xD

would you believe i have one in my hands right this very second haha just working out the front mounting points the back grips easy as there the same as q2 well kind of and theres a back lower sensor but yes doing one right now hah

primal dawn
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I hope it works out because of the annoying censor placement on the Q3 controllers

tired canopy
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@primal dawn

primal dawn
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Oh wow that's a very cool design

regal junco
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has anyone got the raidr gunstock for quest 2? didnt seem very comfortable to use for me

wise cipher
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what do you think guys?

pure crown
wise cipher
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30 $

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30-40$

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49,24

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this is price

surreal quarry
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I swear I saw a STL like that on thingiverse

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Or printables

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If not very similar

charred sorrel
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How do i make homemade gunstock

pure crown
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That is some STL on thingiverse. Not worth the 49,24$

balmy mulch
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looking to do mid/high sniper island day no new players (15+)

rugged berry
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This is off topic but I've kinda gotten back into tarkov, lot of fun in a team

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I hate playing games solo but I gotta get over it

ancient temple
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7thvr fix completed, superglue+baking soda = good bond

karmic idol
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any opinions on what gun stock to get for valve index?

royal wagon
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magtube gets my vote

karmic idol
royal wagon
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i dont use the pistol attachment, just a magtube

wise cipher
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i just buy ultistick

rugged berry
tame elm
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What is a good beginner friendly stock (don’t care about price just nothing outrageous)

royal wagon
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thats not really a good question, because one could argue that a beginner should get one that can work most optimally and not have to deal with design shortcomings

royal wagon
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magtube

pure crown
static pond
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theres a magtube copycat on amazon and etsy i cant remmber the name can pull it up if asked tho its exacvtly like magtube but 90$

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friend has it

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i have magtube

random pine
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guys should i get a c grip gunstock?

tidal loom
#

Selling my newly delivered Wield VR OneStock in London, UK if anyone’s interested DM me. Not trying to make any money just recoup what I’ve spent as it’s not for me.

rich ocean
wise cipher
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I just want to buy it but I but ultistick

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I buy*

rich ocean
unreal gull
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pure crown
#

oh my god, thats so sick

grave quarry
#

Thank you

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Its a Barret m82

royal wagon
#

irl guns are no longer allowed on this server

grave quarry
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Mb

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Didn't know

rugged berry
royal wagon
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dunno, it just know it applies to the tabor discord server

dawn elk
dawn elk
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That, I do not know
wasn't very active around that time and never cared for the channel personally

hardy osprey
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It was a disgusting cesspit that no admin wanted to moderate

royal wagon
dawn elk
#

and this channel has just been renamed to **vr-**gunstock-chat to clear it up a bunch more

royal wagon
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ok

hardy osprey
#

However it is against this discord's server TOS

dawn elk
hardy osprey
dawn elk
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Well alright then

hardy osprey
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As rage said though it should be added to rules to prevent further issues

dawn elk
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Ill bring it up

hardy osprey
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I'm actually wrong Im looking at the TOS 3/22 thing

modest hollow
hardy osprey
modest hollow
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"buying selling or trading" I'm very aware of the Discord guidelines. Thank you

hardy osprey
#

Discord leaves things ambigous which I guess keeps them in the legal grey?

modest hollow
hardy osprey
#

Im in a few discords that do both real steel and airsoft so I'm suprised none of them have been hit or warned.

modest hollow
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It's literally my job to know this. We're within standards and the moderation team will keep it as such.

We aren't going to add every single little thing as an individual rule. Our rules are designed the way they are for a reason, all encompassing.

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"Our guidelines state that users may not organize, promote, or engage in the buying, selling, or trading of dangerous and regulated goods. This has always been our policy and will not be changing."

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Buying. Selling. Trading.

hardy osprey
modest hollow
#

Moral of the story - Discord is not a platform for markets of dangerous goods. That's all that means.

modest hollow
#

I came here to clarify as you were arguing with our moderation staff.

modest hollow
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🙂 Happy to assist

hardy osprey
modest hollow
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Shit slaps

hardy osprey
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How long have you had it?

rapid lintel
dawn elk
#

gotta love me full carbon magtube

faint halo
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I got the same thing tho lol

modest hollow
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Uh idk like, 5-6 months?

faint halo
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waiting on my raidr

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but I'm too used to my pro kek

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I feel like imma smack myself with the raidr

dawn elk
faint halo
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only cause of that

hollow gate
hardy osprey
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The raidr is pretty much dead in the water

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Good design bad execution/parts

hollow gate
#

oh really what was so wrong with it?

faint halo
# dawn elk im quite interested to see how the raidr's second go goes

I looved my break-away stock before so I'm stoked but idk what games it'll go with for me personally yet. I love being able to mess with my stuff while rifle hangs in bunker but there are some fast paced games I want to try raidr on more-so also, or when we have something like arena-ish one day perhaps that's played a bit diff

faint halo
#

just reminded

graceful raven
#

Are gunstock calibration fixed now haven’t played since release because of it and now I want to play the game again

hardy osprey
#

oh yea and the retaining nipple breaks off and instead of admitting it was a defect it was announced "Its only for shipping"

hardy osprey
hollow gate
graceful raven
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Just wouldn’t work with my protube

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Like it wouldn’t calibrate

hardy osprey
hollow gate
hardy osprey
#

when the buttstock is on, like 75% or more of the weight is back there. when you de couple it hurts your wrist

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I have four stocks sitting here and I cant stand using it. I'm sending it back Friday

dawn elk
# faint halo nah waiting still XD

from my limited time with the RAIDR;
really great concept, just a flawed product at the time
once they sort it out I have no doubts itll be great

hardy osprey
#

TBH the 7thVr design is better executed

dawn elk
#

Quest only though
but controller specific cups are probably a good thing

agile rock
#

Rate the stock

snow trellis
agile rock
snow trellis
compact rivet
peak torrent
#

Just ordered the butcher cant wait đŸ„Č

tired canopy
lean turret
peak torrent
chrome lake
#

Anyone have any quest 3 stocks 3d printable?

sour lark
#

do you guys reccomend gunstocks for tabor? ive been thinking about getting one but idk if i should or if i shouldnt

compact depot
#

does anyone know if kiwi design has a gun stock

lean turret
sour lark
# lean turret Get one

lol ill take it as a yes, i have another question abt it tho. If i had to open lockers and stuff am i able to easily disconnect the controller from the gunstock? or is it tricky

lean turret
# sour lark lol ill take it as a yes, i have another question abt it tho. If i had to open l...

It depends on the gunstock. I personally own the butcher made by @mental lance . He made his stock specifically for tabor and you don’t have to disconnect the controllers and looting is as easy as free hand. Do your homework on all the stocks posted in #pins section of this channel before deciding on a gunstock though. Everyone likes different gunstocks for different reasons.

old steppe
arctic magnet
#

Whats a good cheap stock i could get? I dont rly wanna spend more then 50 eur

unkempt plaza
#

Why are all gunstock out of stock or won’t ship to Sweden I’m getting a bit frustrated

open night
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I think it's still in stock too.

royal wagon
#

yeah france to sweden will be quite fast

unkempt plaza
#

Was trying to get a hold of mamuth and buy their wasp since they are here in Sweden but I only says q2 on their site

tired canopy
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@old steppe dm me currently sold 6 so making 6 of them but if I get alot of interest I'll make a big batch 🙂

open night
unkempt plaza
tired canopy
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Scroll up @unkempt plaza 🙂

open night
unkempt plaza
unkempt plaza
tired canopy
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Funny you say that 😉 I do lol

unkempt plaza
thorny hemlock
#

is there any for quest 2

topaz summit
# thorny hemlock is there any for quest 2

Brandoms unistock off eatsy it's great quality for the price (it takes a lot of getting use to I use to hate it then I just started holding it and adjusting it getting use to it and now I can use it) it's a great gun stock for quest 2 or any vr head set.

pure crown
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I can no longer recommend the onestock

topaz summit
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Bad quality?

wise cipher
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i preffer you ultistick

pure crown
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Not so good stuff happening right now

topaz summit
topaz summit
wise cipher
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here is link

pure crown
#

They made alot of those with the defect...

topaz summit
pure crown
#

Considering I bought 2 stocks from wieldvr I aint that happy

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I bought the onestock and the twostock

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With this issue, it will make me wait longer

rugged berry
#

And how I thought only one person got it

pure crown
rugged berry
#

Oh I thought there was another guy

#

You changed your name and pfp

pure crown
sharp cove
#

Thoughts on skoll vr stock?

rich ocean
# tired canopy

Not gonna lie this looks like one of the worst designs i saw. Right hand looks cramped inside while left is bottom mounted for no reason. Also looks like it will have flex or it will crack on the vertical part. and almost no adjustment's are possible...

tired canopy
#

@rich ocean that's fine every one has there opinions 🙂
the the front grip is designed like that as you don't grab the front grip on a gun from the top do you it's a more realistic movement it's just how I wanted to make it aposed to the 200+ stocks that .to me look like sticks with cups 😅

rich ocean
hardy osprey
tired canopy
#

@rich ocean I understand it's constructive criticism and yes I'm working on making it more user friendly with adjustments for angles and locations
I haven't had any tracking issues yet and have been slapping the shit out of Timmy's and Chad's haha 🙂

pure crown
#

They will fix the issue

pure crown
pure crown
#

They are solving it

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It is quite literally their fault

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Im just recommending people not to buy it right now

pure crown
pure crown
pure crown
pure crown
# pure crown

Waiting so long just for that is crazy to me 😂

pure crown
#

then this shit happens

pure crown
broken tundra
#

I just got the cgrip stock, anybody here have experience?

pure crown
hardy osprey
hardy osprey
broken tundra
hardy osprey
#

2/3 weeks?

#

It’s pla and 3d printed

broken tundra
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Ok

split drift
#

I'm having some issues with the calibrating I'm not sure I'm doing it right

royal wagon
#

check the pins for info on calibration

pure crown
#

Hey everyone this might be a bit off topic but is the estimated delivery date for a parcel with the global track and trace accurate ?

royal wagon
#

you'll need to contact the shipping vendor

pure crown
#

Im waiting on a gunstock

pure crown
storm swan
#

Mine was a couple days off but came

pure crown
storm swan
#

2

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It said it would come a certain day and then came 2 days later

pure crown
storm swan
#

USPS

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I think they ship internationally so hopefully that still helps lol

pure crown
storm swan
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In my email

pure crown
#

Ah

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That wont work for me then

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It shipped with USPS and is now with customs in my country @storm swan

uneven harness
#

guys what’s the best gun stock under £30 you could recommend?

royal wagon
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saving up money for a proper stock

split drift
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I got the cgrip vr. I'm not sure what I'm doing different. I had that issue where the hand to grab things is way off when not using the stock. So it's weird

royal wagon
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depending on how you play tabor you can get some unusual hand offsets. what headset are you using and what store did you buy the game from?

potent perch
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hmm

livid coral
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Gonna try a gunstock I 3d printed

hardy osprey
wintry holly
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i made a Pvc one for 8$

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feels sturdier then any others i havd

topaz summit
topaz summit
livid coral
topaz summit
split drift
split drift
royal wagon
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PCVR or standalone?

split drift
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Standalone

royal wagon
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factory reset your headset

open sparrow
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I Play on an Quest 2 and need an Budget gunstock any suggestions ?

heady wave
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Give a range please

open sparrow
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Under 40€/$

full osprey
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Offering 40k for a purple

split drift
nova stream
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What is a good starter stock? I play quest 2 on pcvr but will upgrade to quest 3

split drift
royal wagon
split drift
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I'll try again tonight when I'm off and let you know the findings

spring coral
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Dm me silo runs

hardy osprey
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My hand would get stuck and not be movable

wheat vault
iron fiber
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Does acetone Wana do a raid

royal wagon
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wrong channel

iron fiber
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My bad

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I’m new

gritty flame
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@royal wagon This will be my first wipe. I am scared please tell me eveything is gonna be ok.

livid gale
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Are you a person I’m not

untold plover
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Nothing will be ok

misty fossil
lament flame
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lmao

lucid patio
rugged berry
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The pain and agony will be too much

leaden dune
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I turned on virtual and physical gunstock

upbeat helm
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Hey my gun won't work with the chin rest of my gun stock anyone know why the gun in game is way far off to the left and there is no adjusting system to the right

royal wagon
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Check pins for details on how the gunstock calibration system in game works

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It doesn’t do any horizontal adjustments, so you will need to adjust your gunstock on the horizontal alignment or angle of the controllers

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Nobody with a brain

pine lance
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What do you guys recommend the best gun stock? I’m looking at the OneStock but I’m not sure what might be better

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In all honesty I just want it for sniping so idk what’s best

pure crown
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guys i have enough extra money rn and i want to order a gunstock what is my best option for about 200 bucks

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im personally thinking abt buying a mag tube gunstock

crystal sedge
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I’ve got personally the magtube with a provolver, I can tell you it’s really good 🙂

royal wagon
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thirding magtube

dawn elk
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Magtube

tired delta
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Is this anygood?

long kite
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Anyone know what hand grips are compatible with the magtube and using q3. Apart from the genuine ones

swift quail
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What is the best gunstock for like 30-40 usd

long kite
swift quail
long kite
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I have the magtube which is amazing. Alot of people are raving about the butcher and astreus. Astreus are on etsy. And Google skolvr for the butcher

swift quail
rugged berry
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Go ahead and check the pins in this channel, 2 or 3 down there is a good list with prices

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The magtube is from protubevr, that's going to run you $150 at least

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Actually speaking of pins, all the links to those gunstocks are there too

long kite
gleaming frost
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When is the tabor raider going to be realized?

rugged berry
gleaming frost
hardy osprey
hardy osprey
rugged berry
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And the raidr will eventually come back with different parts

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Just no clue when or what it'll look like

tired canopy
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So in love with my creation 😍 no tracking issues at all

long kite
livid quarry
pure crown
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He said 40-50

pure crown
swift quail
swift quail
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oh

short mauve
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Anyone else just use a metal pipe as a gunstock or am I the only one lol

plain bridge
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What's the cheapest gunstock? (USD)

ancient temple
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pvc pipe and 3d printed design + a tube of superglue

undone storm
undone storm
rich ocean
turbid valley
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Anyone use Butcher or Tomahawk for Tabor? How do you like it?
I got the MagniStock and actually like it so I was gonna pass down to son and get the magtube. But I like the SKOL vr concept so I wanted some opinions.

latent vapor
pure crown
void hazel
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WORKING ON A PVC GUNSTOCK THAT IS ADJUSTABLE AND CAN BE ADJUSTED IN LESS THEN TWO SECONDS

rich ocean
hardy osprey
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@hollow zinc what setup do you suggest for Tabor? brace or grip?