🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[keen furnace]

So for got and showdown Ultistock is the best???

[hardy osprey]

Technically the best is the magtube

[keen furnace]

Lmao. The other guys said magtube wasn't.

[royal wagon]

People have opinions

[hardy osprey]

Best is subjective but if you sit down the options of each the magtube is best. It’s expensive though

[keen furnace]

I buying magtube rn any accessories you think are needed?

[hardy osprey]

Better question for @royal wagon

However I believe sling and second cup

[rich ocean]

What headset are you using ?

[rich ocean]

When you have no idea what you are talking about....

[hardy osprey]

It’s almost like I said someone else was the one to ask

[royal wagon]

sling is mandatory. no second cup needed

[keen furnace]

That was my old 3d pulse headset for ps5 from a few years ago. Now im using steel series artic 7+.

[keen furnace]

Do you need pro straps or mk2 stock?

[royal wagon]

mk2 stock is nice

if oyu have a quest definitely get the prostraps. the quest strap system is terrible and the prostraps bring it closer to the index native quality level

[rich ocean]

I would recommend their hand strap version for your controllers they are verry good quality. If you want go for stock V2 that allows some adjustment of cheekweld hight. Carbon is slightly lighter I personally have the standard steel so chose what you like to spend on. For me weight reduction wasn't worth the extra money. If you want force feedback on your stock you can always buy that kicking stock but for me it's heavy and unnecessary.

[idle pike]

Best quest two stock that’s $100 or less?

[rich ocean]

Kk but that second cup just killed me inside m8

[royal wagon]

you dont need a second cup

i would say the majority of people who recommend it dont know how to use a protube properly

add the second manget on after you've used it for a while if you can think of some situations where it would REALLY improve things

ive got 7000+ hours on a magtube and was one of the first people to do the second magnet system

[rich ocean]

TBF I do t even understand what is the second cup.... Like second offhand attachment?

[royal wagon]

i dont have a second magnet on my stock right now and can do everything effortlessly

basically yes

[rich ocean]

But that's so confusing whyyyy I would say one point and learn where it is so you can land it no problem. Do t see a use for second one

[royal wagon]

im not sure how anything i said is confusing

[rich ocean]

Not your explanation more why would you buy that at the start. It would be confusing to learn two spots for your offhand controller. That's what I meant

[rich ocean]

Only use I see is like Mac 11 type of gun

[royal wagon]

unnecessary

[hardy osprey]

Many people recommend it so they can easily transition from smg to ar and back. Or for grip attachments

[royal wagon]

also unnecessary, and slower

[hardy osprey]

Different strokes for different folks

[dull lark]

Does the combat waffle studios team have their own made gunstocks for GOT?

[astral dove]

@dull lark ya

[hollow zinc]

the Manmut Raidr is the offical gunstock for GoT.

[dull lark]

Is it called the Tabor RaidR split stock on the website ?

[hollow zinc]

yeah

I'd wait until they come out with headset specific grips though

there's...been some issues

[dull lark]

And is it better to get the base set and butt stock together or is that not necessary

[hollow zinc]

great company overall but the news about those 'universal' grip straps has been not great

[hardy osprey]

No it’s made by mamut

[hollow zinc]

and the buttstock is metal and apparently is far too heavy and clunky

[hardy osprey]

Are they?

[hollow zinc]

yeah, I'm pretty sure they will to fix the design

[hardy osprey]

I haven’t heard anything new

[hollow zinc]

I mean, Mamut in general already has fantastic grips for the Apto Wasp, I'm surprised they didn't have that as an option to begin with

[dull lark]

Do they not have grips for quest 3 already ?

[hollow zinc]

but I have some buds I play with that use heavily modified raidr's and they say it's awesome once you print dedicated grips

[hollow zinc]

not for the raidr - or at least not on sale

[hardy osprey]

I believe the universal grips are originally designed for quests

[dull lark]

Why don’t they just advice people to get a different gunstock to play GOT if there are too many issues

[hollow zinc]

like I was saying, the only people I know that are super happy with it have 3d printers and modified the grips for the apto to fit the raidr and even printed their own butt with a cheek weld to save weight over the metal one

[hollow zinc]

eh, I'd just use quest grips for quest lol

[dull lark]

Too much effort especially for comfort in a game I feel

[hardy osprey]

It is

[hollow zinc]

they'll fix it I'm quite sure but right now it's not super great

[hardy osprey]

I have one and not impressed

[hollow zinc]

I've considered getting one to design my own upgrades for it lol

[dull lark]

Ok well thanks guys for the info I think I’ll hold back on any of this stuff for now 😭

[hardy osprey]

I’ll sell you one…

[hollow zinc]

haha

[winged portal]

I had the mamut raidr and u refunded it, amazing idea but poorly executed with cheap materials, bad ergonomic and not consistent.

[pure crown]

I think many people will be happy to sell you one

[hollow zinc]

If I didn't already have a product folks seem to like a lot I'd do it

it's not a bad idea

I really want to promote the idea that gunstocks are like guitars, there's no 'best' one execept the one that works best for you in how you play

and it's true, and I know Mamut is hard at work fixing the Raidr's issues and I'm pretty sure it will rock in the end

[winged portal]

Well in my case I was very hyped about the mamut raidr....I hope they'll fix it, but others will replicate it sooner or later. I thing someone already make a similar split gunstock

[hollow zinc]

yeah there's quite a few out there

Gunface is a tried and true example

[hardy osprey]

I don’t understand how it got out of the design block in the condition it is

[hollow zinc]

although I'd use the buttstock version and not the face version lol

[hardy osprey]

A few things could 100% be production like the screws. But not the stock

[hollow zinc]

yeah...

this design I've heard good things about https://www.etsy.com/listing/1677702159/raptor-vr-gunstock-for-quest23?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=VR+gunstock+magnet&ref=sc_gallery-1-9&cns=1&plkey=3bf9d693809a0caf79b9fc79fa24d9ee2acf9aa5%3A1677702159

[hollow wadi]

Meh sometimes it happens even a print setting like being 2% off on side could cause major issues and you not realize it till after. It’s unfortunate

[hardy osprey]

It’s not printed though

[hardy osprey]

That is ugly as sin

[hollow zinc]

yeah it was full injection molded and machined

[hollow zinc]

lol

Astreus has a decent maglock design too

[hardy osprey]

That one is ugly too

[hollow wadi]

Yeah sorry wasn’t speaking specifically to it being 3d printed just saying a 2% error somewhere could cause issues

[hollow zinc]

sadly the issue with the mamut have little to nothing to do with sizing and fitment

material choice and fundamental design

[hardy osprey]

I’m interested to see how your stock compares to the tabor and cgrip

[hollow zinc]

cheap gum rubber straps that tear easily to hold it on the controllers that simultaneously damage the controllers unless you put tape around them

[hardy osprey]

The straps don’t damage the controllers

[hollow zinc]

well the manufacturer had a post about how they recommend putting tape around the controllers if you're worried about marking them up

[hardy osprey]

I’ve heard that a few times but everyone that says it can’t show how it damages it or what they really mean

[hollow wadi]

Scuff marks usually right?

Like on the base of the controller

[hollow zinc]

I guess few people played with it long enough to cause damage lol

thats one check on the positive side I guess

[hardy osprey]

Nah. Unless they grip it like Hercules

[keen furnace]

@hollow wadi do you have a discord server?

[hollow wadi]

Yeah sure do.

[hollow wadi]

Check your DMs- I think if you respond I can invite ya. If you want

[rich ocean]

Do t think that grip has much to do with damage. Stock works against you since it's a lever. Any leverage goes directly against your controller. and if it's metal brace there I'm not surprised that plastic part will get scuffed.

[keen furnace]

I almost pulled the trigger on the magtube fully loaded but now I see these other stocks better for showdown and got. More compacted I mean. I've never used a vr gunstock other the one I made myself. Just as confused when I started lol

[pure crown]

For fast games like contractors and ghost of tabor you need a different gunstock. Magtube can work too but always slower and more difficult

It takes some time to get used to

Even after you get used to it you still won’t be as fast as someone with a ultistock and forearm brace combination

[keen furnace]

That's why I was thinking @hollow wadi product. Completely customizable. Not 200$. I know ppl who got the magtube and don't use it for got and showdown.

[pure crown]

His product looks decent. I can only recommend ultistock because ive seen it in use with ghost of tabor

[hardy osprey]

I don’t really like the Astreus tbh. I don’t like putting plastic near the lens of headset.

[pure crown]

I was thinking of getting a magtube as well. But after i watched some gameplay of ultistock and saw the low price plus fully customisable i had to change my mind

[rugged berry]

Just remove that part then

[pure crown]

Why get a stock just to remove parts from it

[hardy osprey]

Then what’s the point of it

[pure crown]

Same like putting tape so raidr doesn’t scratch your controller

[glacial nexus]

Anyone have suggestions for a stock prince range. 50-70

[rugged berry]

Because it doesn't take away from the functionality, meets preferences, and there may not be a preferable alternative

[pure crown]

Ultistock of 7thvr

[hardy osprey]

Then it’s $110 for a stock version

[pure crown]

Well there is. The ultistock

[rugged berry]

You'd be removing the cheekrest from that too

[pure crown]

It’s a small stock so i don’t think that adds much stability anyway

[hardy osprey]

Cheek rest not weld.

Head to side not on my face

[rugged berry]

huh

[mortal pawn]

What stock should I get

[pure crown]

I’ve watched enough to understand the ultistock is better. Once mine arrives i can give an honest review

[pure crown]

Budget ?

[rugged berry]

I don't know what you mean by not wanting plastic near your lens

[hardy osprey]

You don’t put the ultistock against the front of your face

[mortal pawn]

50-120

[rugged berry]

I don't believe you do that with the astreus thing either

[hardy osprey]

Ultistock probably

[pure crown]

I could be completely wrong about Astreus. Once all the new customers receive their gunstocks from him then we will know

[hardy osprey]

It’s literally in the first picture. Like why are you arguing without going and looking at the product?

[rugged berry]

I look at the product, I don't see where you would rest that in the front of your face

[hardy osprey]

I hate spoon feeding people

[mortal pawn]

Link?

[hardy osprey]

It’s on Etsy

[mortal pawn]

Okay

[pure crown]

Ew why does it go in your mouth almost

[hardy osprey]

That was a popular style for a while in the vr community not sure why.

[rugged berry]

That's on his cheek like a lot of stock have, it just usually isn't the main point of stability

[hardy osprey]

It’s 2cm from the lens if that. Just not wanting to mess up my expensive quest

[pure crown]

True

Rate from 0/10

Works well

but getting a real one in 2 days

[pure crown]

Which one

From etsy

[pure crown]

What’s the name

AFK-47

Got it on sale

[pure crown]

Nice

[royal lion]

What gunstock do you guys recommend for a new player to gun stocks for a relatively cheap price

[hollow wadi]

Hey boss sent ya a dm. Let me know if you have any questions

[hollow wadi]

lol 😂 bro you crack me up.

[pure crown]

Not wrong 🤷‍♂️

[pure crown]

Make a ghost of tabor gameplay video so the people can see if it works in ghost of tabor. This is the ghost of tabor official discord after all

[hollow wadi]

I already bought the scale special order just for you. I’ll get you a ghost video when I have time.

Sounds like someone else I know recently without even giving it a chance. But hey it’s all good, best wishes to ya.

[pure crown]

WTF

[pure crown]

Just asking you to make a video on the game you’re advertising your gunstock about

[pure crown]

Ship me one free of charge and ill gladly give it a review here 😇

[hollow wadi]

You got a YouTube channel with. Following?

[pure crown]

1 subscriber

[hollow wadi]

Hey that’s awesome man!

We all start somewhere. I remember my first as well.

[pure crown]

I’m getting gunstocks because i want to review most popular options

Like for example your magbreak option is interesting

[hollow wadi]

If you want the magbreak and full experience can always add this

[pure crown]

Just brought the ultistock about a week ago

[hollow wadi]

That’s awesome look forward to your review video.

[pure crown]

Yeah

I don’t tell lies

I have the raidr and 7th at the moment

Basically the same stocks

But 7th has dedicated controller cups

So it’s sturdy

[pure crown]

I haven’t seen a single person complaining or leaving bad reviews about the ultistock so my hopes are high

[hollow wadi]

Never said you did.

[pure crown]

Yeah i know im just putting it out there

Was going to say at its current state 7thvr is better then raidr

As much as i wanted to think the other way around

I really hope the issues get fixed later on because Mamut is a good company

[sturdy terrace]

Can I get a gun stock

[native needle]

If you buy one, yes you can.

[hardy osprey]

Really nice print line . X1c with the texture plate or what?
Also what filament company?

[random cedar]

I bought the ultistock too, unfortunately I feel the 'learning-curve' is a little too steep compared to other stocks. Also hated the fact I spent like 3 hours setting it up it felt so weird at first. Wish the etsy seller who makes them had better instructions on setting it up cause I literally just got pissed and I barely even play now, due to that fact & school tbf. Don't want to shit on it though I plan on using it more & figuring it out during the coming weeks.

[hollow wadi]

I run bambulab filaments just cus I have the AMS systems.

[hardy osprey]

What plate?

[hollow wadi]

That pattern was molded into each individual piece. I use the texture pei plate but it’s always on the bottom part all sides were individual molded in.

[hardy osprey]

What do you mean individually molded?

[rugged berry]

This is always the case with highly adjustable anything. It's trial and error, there is no one size fits all. If you mean just general assembly of it, I think the videos are pretty good

[lime dew]

budget?

[pure crown]

If i want to make gunstocks and sell them whats a good 3 printer for that?

[rugged berry]

And I do probably agree, although I don't have any other experience, it takes a while to know where everything needs to go to snap the stock into a ready to shoot position

[lime dew]

i hear the ender is good

but it must be printed is pieces

[rugged berry]

I assume whatever astreus, brando, and skol have are solid options

[hollow wadi]

Modeled * your talking about the hex pattern?

[hollow wadi]

We all print on carbons

[hardy osprey]

Bambu is kinda the go to now

P1s or x1s

[hollow wadi]

Brando used to use Ender pros for awhile.

But sound alike he upgraded

[rugged berry]

$1500 holy cow

[hollow wadi]

Sorry- let me take that back.

They might use the P1P

[pure crown]

what is ur printer?

[hollow wadi]

Bambulab has 3 main models
P1P about 600 I think, and can print in PLA. And I think that’s about to.
Carbon most expensive- can print in all materials. TPU,ABS etc.
And XIS

I paid 1650 after tax for 1 of my 2 x1c so 3200ish total.

But that also included the AMS for each unit

[rich ocean]

Ghost of Tabor is one of the slowest games in FPS VR genre... And first experience ultistock and magtube and compare them fairly and not on assumptions.

[pure crown]

Have you tried the ultistock to compare them ?

Not a slow fps game at all

If you camp in a tree yeah probably

[rich ocean]

I don't and no I don't have ultistock I know you will have one. You plan on getting all of them so compare when you physically have one.

[pure crown]

It’s not an assumption that ultistock if faster then magtube you are delusional if you think that way

[pure crown]

✅

Until then i don’t necessarily say there is a best gunstock i just say ultistock is faster then magtube which i think is a fair thing to say

[hardy osprey]

P1P can print in everything the x1 can

[hollow wadi]

If you enclose it aftermarket yes

For abs and TPU you gota have the enclosed space

[hardy osprey]

Enclosure is $100 or $50 for after market

I was hoping they would be announcing the x1 xl this year

[hollow wadi]

Yeah for sure but I’m quoting there website without mods. Just base models

And it’s a loose quote I didn’t list EVERYTHING

[pure crown]

Also you are comparing a one handed gunstock with a forearm brace vs a big gunstock with a sling

[hardy osprey]

I honestly regret getting a x1c. Should’ve gotten the p1s

[rich ocean]

Depends on what basis you determine speed. I would say that magtube is slightly slower in connecting and griping your gun. But it's significantly faster in nades on ladders and with looting. You have 2 free hands instead of one. So as my favourite character once said
"Magtube is faster from a certain point of view"
It all depends on what you want from your gunstock. And as a last bit I'll add that I will be 2x more precise with magtube than with ultistock. I just aim like shit can't imagine hitting the same spot on my forearm to brace correctly for ads in a moment of heat.

[pure crown]

You don’t have an ultistock to test that 👍

[hardy osprey]

I agree with this

[rich ocean]

I might test that one day never say never.

[pure crown]

Many people were sceptical about the forearm brace i get that. But it works great

[hardy osprey]

I’m waiting for a mechanical stock with retracting grips

[rich ocean]

I would buy ultistock just for sake that @hollow zinc is a great guy and I like to make purchases from people like him .

[pure crown]

Damn what’s it called ?

[hardy osprey]

That’s a terrible reason lol

[hardy osprey]

No i mean I’m waiting for some one to make one

[pure crown]

Same reason me and you got a raidr if you think about it lol

[pure crown]

Ohhh okay

[hardy osprey]

Nah I got it because it looked like a good product . Man was I mistaken

[pure crown]

I’ll use it as an example why you shouldn’t pre order things

[rich ocean]

Don't see why I'm perfectly happy with my magtube anyway. I'm curious and he's design seem like innovative stuff. He deserves clients for his customer service. Don't see how that is a bad thing.

[livid ferry]

Are the gunstocks worth the money ?

[hardy osprey]

Yea for sure

[hardy osprey]

There’s an entire channel for it. You do the math

[livid ferry]

Was just wanting opinions my bad for asking 😂

[rich ocean]

Check pinned topics in this channel you will get planty

[hardy osprey]

It’s a general question. Like is tabor good

[rugged berry]

I mean not really, he has a good product and backs it even through both dissatisfaction and defects, even if they are probably a fault of the user. Even beyond just wanting to support a business like that, you have the peace of mind knowing there is always another option if it breaks or you aren't happy, which makes it a safer option which is definitely in my mind a valid reason

[livid ferry]

Thank you for the info I appreciate it

[rugged berry]

Like the last decade of video games didn't tell you that already lol

[pure crown]

Mhm

[hollow wadi]

They are def a game changer- haha dad joke of the day

[rugged berry]

And also I learned with this stock, 3d printing can be a lot more rigid and also a lot more flexible in it's use cases than I originally thought

Probably any well designed 3d printed stock

[hardy osprey]

The reason stated was “he’s a good guy” not it’s a good product. Please read before commenting.

[rugged berry]

There's a lot more to that statement than meets the eye

[hardy osprey]

Not really. It’s pretty straightforward

[rugged berry]

Just consider the reasons why that statement was made

Not everything has to be so literal

[hollow wadi]

Nice- who do you know that are bad people that make stocks?

[hardy osprey]

“I would buy it just for the sake he’s a good guy.” Very literal

[rugged berry]

I'm asking you not to be so literal about it lol

[hollow wadi]

Tha passion in GOT gunstock channel is amazing. Hahahah

[hollow wadi]

lol it’s a pretty black and white statement.

[rugged berry]

And he followed it up by saying he likes supporting good people, so for him that's a pretty good reason

[hardy osprey]

Reading comprehension isn’t taught well in schools anymore .

[rich ocean]

Don't like how mamut team handles their release and issues with it. First day after release the way the support reacted by blaming some people was really sad.

[hardy osprey]

Yea and some of those responses are still in here.

[rich ocean]

Yeah exactly I responded to you and added more to that statement reading indeed is an art

[hardy osprey]

I remember the first wave week and the excuses or explanations of “nah that’s how it’s made”

[rugged berry]

I know what was said, I'm saying there is reasoning behind why such a statement was made, and so from there it's pretty simple to realize that there is more reason than "he's a good guy", that was simply a summarization of reasoning

[hardy osprey]

Strap achor point breaks, that’s how it’s made. Screw backs off consistently “that’s how it’s made”.

[rugged berry]

We call that reading between the lines

[hardy osprey]

Nah it’s call making assumptions.

Reading between the lines is me saying “it’s a shame if blank went missing.” Then you taking him on a long drive off a short pier

[hollow wadi]

I had the Apto wasp from Mamut won it from a league. It was part of the reason I developed my own product cus god it was terrible. 😞 but some people may like it. Just my opinion.

[hardy osprey]

They gave those away at Pokémon leagues?

[rugged berry]

And is that not how communication as a whole works? Assumptions of meaning based on context?

[hollow wadi]

lol 😂 nah actual VR FPS leagues. Pro play is a thing.

[rugged berry]

Anyways this is petty

[hardy osprey]

This is going in circles. You can’t read and will make excuses that you aren’t wrong .

[hardy osprey]

I bet that’s fun to go to. I got pumped just watching battlegrounds USA in Detroit a few years ago

[hollow wadi]

Yeah I’m hosting one in San Antonio in July. Hopefully it’s good.

Well gents I got practice to get too- enjoy y’all’s night.

[rugged berry]

@steep orbit sorry to bother, do you have any tips for getting my front controller to track properly?

Quest 3

[rich ocean]

What seems to be the problem ?

[steep orbit]

not bothering me at all

but yeah whats going on?

[formal ingot]

Need one more for purple you need to be good

Doing purple
Need 2
13+

[waxen fiber]

wrong channel

[formal ingot]

I know sorry did not see that

[rugged berry]

Just having the problem where I can't figure out how to adjust the ultistock and where to put my hands, my front offhand controller loses tracking

I think I got it a bit better now

I was concerned about making stuff too high to see over the rear controller because then I couldn't use the optics

[steep orbit]

i'll dm you so it doesnt spam the chat

[runic peak]

I want that but like would you only use that if your using a rifle in game?

[steep orbit]

theres a little paddle there for pistols that feels really good

[runic peak]

How much?

[steep orbit]

$50-$80

https://www.etsy.com/shop/BrandoDrumVR

theres a cool attatchment called the forearm brace and it works like this, I used to use it a lot and I switch back and forth, but the half cup feels really good right now

[runic peak]

Ok that’s amazing I will have to look into that

[steep orbit]

Yeah it’s very versatile, I was using it for naked runs, but once I had my loadout I liked using the half cup. I’d get the full kit it comes with all the attachments and you can mix and match 👍🏼

[runic peak]

Ok step 2 get a successful raid

[steep orbit]

You’re gonna hate me 😂

https://youtu.be/PjvdDKLjDp4?si=wI76GXyCj0MEnVol

[runic peak]

Bruh

[steep orbit]

😂😂😂

[pure crown]

I have the same problem but with a different stock

[ashen hull]

What stock?

[reef wren]

real i aint got one am i am good at the game

[ashen hull]

For sure man, I know some people who would smoke like 10 people easy without a stock 😄

That person was not me 😂

[round dome]

modus R should be coming in today

[ashen hull]

Nice one!

[cursive falcon]

Im using MagTube, and it helped me alot with the aiming. But the magnets are a little bit strong, specially at the right-hand. Someone knows a way to make the magnets be a little bit weaker? I thought about some paper in between, but that is just shooting while flashbanged I feel.

[ashen hull]

If you snap them apart instead of pulling apart it's easier

[brazen swift]

Vote option 1 in #📊・polls

[ashen hull]

20 gpu's is fucked

43,200 minimum a day

[royal wagon]

rotate your hands inward

in order to properly articulate the lever action in the magtube cup you will want to rotate it, it will pop right out

[cursive falcon]

oook, then I have to try that right away, since that will make really much more easier getting this method into the muscle memory. Thanks for the reply!

[royal wagon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/KawaiiCrazyFerretMingLee-FCZ5rcjYeeYFr1HY

had this question earlier tonight 🙂

[cursive falcon]

actually after testing it, I thought to myself... why didnt I figure this out on my own.. I came up with several theories.. 1. I hit my head and became stupid at some point. 2. Born stupid 3. Wrong way method became the bad habit. I came to the conclusion theory 3. Maybee some theory 1. as well.. but not nr 2!! haha

[royal wagon]

ive been working on my new ultimate protube video script

[cursive falcon]

video script? How does that work?

at least you need an api right? using python?

[royal wagon]

you write down what you want to be in it

ive been saying im going to update my protube video for a while now, my original is 6 years old and ive done quite a bit more in the realm of production quality since then

[cursive falcon]

now Im gonna watch it..!

Really handy way to release the controllers. Maybee add how to lock the controllers fast in a seating position as well? That is also a stressmoment in certain situations, like the gunstock has turned as an example, and first it has to be turned in a not "upside down" position, and then try to fasten the right controller, and then left controller goes on repeated practice.

[royal wagon]

you'll have to wait for my video, but heres a preview: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2114967086?t=1h41m45s

[cursive falcon]

yes, I saw the incident where you shot the pants of the Fenix hahaha

[pure crown]

What is that supposed to mean ?

[hardy osprey]

He’s being sarcastic.

[pure crown]

Not really

[hardy osprey]

That’s how it comes off to me.

[pure crown]

I get that but to me it doesnt

[hardy osprey]

It’s honestly a funny question. Like imagine the new “Kim Jong UN VR Stock” or Stalin stock

[cursive falcon]

that sounds sarcastic... but honest.. hahaha I dont dare adding anything to that.

[ashen hull]

I suppose the Raidr is kinda like the Communism stock

In the sense that like Communism... It doesn't work

[hardy osprey]

But we need to try again because it’s not real communism

[ashen hull]

They never did it how we'd do it!

[hardy osprey]

Said with heavy sarcasm and repeating what goofballs say

[ashen hull]

😂

[hardy osprey]

Real communism would be awesome. 40 hour work week living in a mansion

[ashen hull]

Insert:
"They didn't do it properly"
"We'd do it better"
"That wasn't real communism"

etc etc haha

[hardy osprey]

I mean they are right ish but real communism is impossible.

[ashen hull]

I don't know much about it haha, why is that so?

[hardy osprey]

Long story short… everyone puts in equal effort and get equal everything

But progress requires ambition

Anywho I’m off topic. Have you seen any new stocks pop up?

[naive sluice]

Anyone had an experience of ordering gunstock to Armenia? Could you recommend me a shop you had experience with

[hardy osprey]

Maybe @mental lance ? I’m not sure that’s ever been asked before

[naive sluice]

yeah, kinda specific question, but

[hardy osprey]

Hopefully him or one of the others can help

[ember hawk]

I need some help calibrating

[floral echo]

did you cut down your magtube? looks short(er)

[mental lance]

Never sent there before, but DHL can do this as I can see. The address only in latin letters. Not fast, I assume 2-3 weeks, but DHL never fails the delivery, if the address was provided fully and correctly. So you may consider the Butcher gunstock from me.

[mental lance]

Thanks for tagging me🙏

[hardy osprey]

No problem. Figured you might know the answer

[mental lance]

Overall Shopify has pretty world wide delivery unlike Etsy. Every other producer with their own site shop you may ask. 7thVR you should consider and ask about it too.

[hardy osprey]

I wish I could figure out Shopify designing . Looks like a decent system

[ember hawk]

Can some one help me

[heady wave]

With?

[mental lance]

@hardy osprey Yea, it is almost full freedom plus insurance. Good for independence.

[ember hawk]

Calibrateing a mag tube stock

[hardy osprey]

Look in the pinned comments

[ember hawk]

Where

[hardy osprey]

What?

[hardy osprey]

In this channel

Here #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[hollow wadi]

He said he supported good people- so I was asking who was bad people?

[pure crown]

Ok

[hardy osprey]

Hey @hollow wadi or @hollow zinc do you know a good rainbow/multi color pla for the bambu?wanting to do a fundraiser for the local humane society

[viral leaf]

Hi all, this is my official review for the gunstock I purchased, the CGripVR. I don't remember who it was that asked for this but here it is. First off, you get what you pay for. I paid for something cheap, so I expected something cheap. It's a bit unstable if you put too much pressure on it, but that's fine by me because I'm not shoving it into my shoulder super hard. I immediately noticed an improvement in my aim, which is a solid start. It is 3D printed, so I probably could have just made my own at that point, but it works. One problem I have with it is that it does not account for any grip on any weapon. If you have a grip, it will not grab it correctly or at all. If it does grab it, your gun will be angled incorrectly to the side. I haven't had much of a problem with it yet as I don't use grips often, but it is a pain taking grips off of guns I loot from players as it takes time and makes me vulnerable as I can't use the weapon properly until the grip is taken off. It didn't take too long to get used to the controller mounting points for two-handed weapons, but I did notice that it took a minute to figure out the hand gun, which I am still getting used to. This was only after 30 minutes to an hour of use, so my opinion may change. If you need something that just gets the job done, this is it. If you want higher quality, look elsewhere. Thank you.

[hidden pike]

TIS ON THE WAY

[hollow wadi]

Hey man- the only other thing that I run through my systems are Hatchbox filaments on plastic spools and I run it as "BambuLab" for print settings and havent had any issues. Just manually punch in the color and specs etc. I dont know if they have a great rainbow though? They have a dark rainbow that I found. https://www.amazon.com/HATCHBOX-Multicolored-Filament-Dimensional-Accuracy/dp/B0C3MXXQC8/ref=sr_1_14?crid=82YU10Z7CKFS&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Jrs-222bi-X-SJvcFuxVqYZ41FxOLDxOqPH58EMcsvouRSNWI7P6CY2YNOlM2IUMDrfERMopGsya753Lt1s1GdZzAS-vkZi9Xn_r958TYgORyaCFiSsR8RYqKeZoF94FDiLlAp-mJxwCwujW4ryCqNLQyl2p_PqmTIjgCKq3CsKqo9b1B5HFWC15ZB6LHUtsetyo9ujWDVAX3ynR-y9qm8_sxu3cAg4rU1a3Ee_oJrk.ZO-KMFbvBQVt8dwQTzmONYsNuXITbbtIxMVES-5-73M&dib_tag=se&keywords=rainbow%2Bpla&qid=1712673711&sprefix=rainbow%2Bpla%2Caps%2C109&sr=8-14&th=1

[hardy osprey]

Thanks

[hollow wadi]

I think "Overture" was another one i used once- but it came on cardboard spools and after 1 time of doing a respool I was just like "Meh- Ill just buy plastic"
Bambu doesn't recommend cardboard. No idea if it really causes issues or not- But the filament worked well.

[hardy osprey]

It messes up the ams

[hollow wadi]

Yeah- Rougher texture. I just never ran it to find out or did reasearch on why. I do Biomedical Engineering Technician work so I always follow manufacturers literature 🫠 guess im basic in that sense.

[twilit edge]

Is the spine meta quest 3 gun stock any good for 84 dollars?

[pure crown]

Nah

[pure crown]

Where are you from ?

[hidden pike]

Why do you ask my friend?

[pure crown]

I have one on the way and i want to make an estimate for my shipping

[hidden pike]

I'm in the states

[pure crown]

Ah

Okay

[hidden pike]

Ik you aren't

[pure crown]

Yep

[hidden pike]

I just don't remember what country

[pure crown]

Bulgaria

[hidden pike]

I was thinking Bolivia

[twilit edge]

What's the best gunstock for your money then?

[heady wave]

I think it kinda depends on your country

[twilit edge]

Ok

[heady wave]

What country are you in?

[twilit edge]

U.s

United States

[pure crown]

Lol

[heady wave]

I’m not too knowledgeable on gunstocks but I just ordered one and I don’t think it was a bad investment for the material and customizability.

It hasn’t arrived yet so I can’t say for sure though

[twilit edge]

Do the gun stock help with recoil too or just aiming? Because I saw somebody use the new LMG with a gunstock and it was basically just a scar with a skeleton grip.

[heady wave]

Recoil shouldn’t be affected by physical gunstocks because recoil is a game function

[twilit edge]

Yeah idk then

[heady wave]

It also depends on your price range

[twilit edge]

Prob 50 to 100 dollars

I found one it looks like it would work it's the spine gunstock it works on quest 3 so I might cop it🤷

[heady wave]

Personally I ordered @hollow wadi’ Magbreak gunstock

But that’s just me

[hardy osprey]

I like the ultistock. That’s what I ordered after watching reviews

[twilit edge]

Ok I'll take a look at them both thank.

[heady wave]

Do you want the link?

[twilit edge]

Alrighty

Sure I'll take the link

[heady wave]

K

Sent in dms because I don’t know what type of automod this server has for links

[twilit edge]

Ok

[hollow wadi]

Let me know if you have any question and ill DM ya as well to answer any questions boss.

[heady wave]

Oh btw did you see my dm?

[hollow wadi]

Yeah I did- Ill get ya pics asap. I dont have a red one on hand. So gunna pull one from a review when work slows down.

[heady wave]

Alright, thank you!

[rugged berry]

It doesn't reduce recoil, but I can see it being easier to accurately counter it, because the ingame gun is more easily kept in the correct position horizontally

[hollow zinc]

When you say grips, you mean like AMVR or Kiwi? I have a version of my grip that works with those

Here's a full kit shown without that but you get the idea

Disclaimer* id recommend using the forearm brace OR the front grip but with attached here just to show options.

But yeah, Crgrip is unmatched at that price. But there's tradeoffs

[gloomy blade]

Hey, wondered if anyoen can recommend a good stock for less than £80

because i was abt to buy the protube but £104 for that seems over the top for a somewhat new player like me

[royal wagon]

theres a few thoughts on that

buy nice, cry once

[gloomy blade]

lmaoo true

[royal wagon]

and a new user is going to want something that is properly adaptable and highly usable, so a lower quality gunstock that might not work very well would be much more frustrating

[gloomy blade]

true

Like on a scale from 1-10 how good is it in comparison

the gunstock vs free aim

[gloomy blade]

Also what stock would u recommend?

[viral leaf]

I was fully ready to accept those trade offs as I just needed something cheap that worked lol

[royal wagon]

magtube, full carbon

[viral leaf]

It has “sockets” that you place and hold your controller in

[gloomy blade]

Why full carbon?

[royal wagon]

better weight balance, no reflective surfaces (optimal for tracking), and higher friction means its easier to clamp your tubes into your set position and not have to tighten so much to prevent it from moving

and significantly lower weight

[gloomy blade]

£150 though

[royal wagon]

ive got over 7000 hours on a magtube, it'll last you

its lasted me through 3 different headsets

[ionic root]

do you still need the tabor mod to use the cgrip stock?

about to order but unsure if that sight alignment thing got fixed or not yet

[mental lance]

Shopify system. Seriously differs from Etsy or any other marketplace. It's like WordPress, but more user friendly and have some extra features.

[jaunty lynx]

Anyone know why when I calibrate sniper after i calibrate it when I pull out sniper it points at ground

It’s the only gun it does that on

[royal wagon]

delete your savegame, set a sensible hand pitch rotation, then calibrate sniper again

[hollow zinc]

Here's a great video about gunstocks for GOT. https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=uIRwFs6Pf3lnMke0

[manic swan]

Lol nice passive self promotion plug. specifically about your gunstock.

[glacial nexus]

Anyone have any impressions on this

[manic swan]

Yes spend a few extra dollers and get a ultistock or 7thvr stock lol.

Your going to find that stock very cumbersome to use and set up in tabor

[pure crown]

I have 7thvr and can vouch for it. It’s great. i also have the ultistock on the way

[royal wagon]

limited adjustments

[hollow wadi]

Me and the Owner of Hydra actually met IRL. Hes a nice guy. Print quality was really good too. He gave me one of this units. But it wasnt my style. I would agree on limited adjustability like what @manic swan stated. For the price though you get a two handed stock.

[hollow wadi]

🤣

[glossy crystal]

can I calibarate all weapon types at the same time

[hollow zinc]

I could dm everyone in the chat. But that's tacky AF. Lol.

[royal wagon]

no, and the guns have different shapes, so that would be very counterproductive. calibrate each class that you use

[gloomy blade]

is the ultistock any good

[glossy crystal]

ok thanks

[rugged berry]

I think so

[pure crown]

True @hollow wadi why do you dm every person asking what gunstock they should get ?

[rugged berry]

Seems very solid, honestly some of the most rigid plastic I've encountered, and I was very iffy about the 3D printing but it literally just seems like any other plastic

All the adjustments you could need, like hell the stock has two different attachment points for the main beam. Just know that with more adjustment ability, it becomes more trial and error, and less of a "one size fits all" kinda thing

I'm still toying with it after like 3 or 4 hours of trial and error over the weekend

I would recommend the full kit so you can mix and match and like get it as perfect as possible, also have some solid replacement parts if something did happen to break. I am actually using the XL parts except for the forearm brace. I have the small forearm brace beam, with the XL noodle for more surface area, and I felt that with the longer beam I couldn't move the location of my offhand as easily for shorter guns and also the longer guns

[ancient temple]

7thvr is "in transit" so i hope it'll arrive soon

[hardy osprey]

To sell his stock of course without getting banned

[jaunty lynx]

I got a stock from there I like very much

[pure crown]

It just seems cringe

And embarrassing

[pure crown]

If you have to dm people to sell your stock i don’t think it’s a very good stock 👍

What do you think ? @hardy osprey

[hardy osprey]

I mean it’s part of marketing. I don’t really care and he asks before he does it so it’s not hurting anyone

[pure crown]

Marketing isn’t for this chat.

It’s for recommending gunstocks not marketing your gunstock.

[hardy osprey]

I agree but if that would be the case then there’s a bunch that need punished

[pure crown]

I don’t really see many people doing it

If they do i call them out

[pure crown]

Plus it’s a rule not to advertise stuff on here. He tries to use dms as a loophole to that rule

[hardy osprey]

I would bring it up to an admin

[pure crown]

Good idea thank you

[rugged berry]

Product discovery

[pure crown]

He has already advertised it once

That’s not product discovery

People have already seen his product on Etsy it’s not a new gunstock

[rugged berry]

Oh yeah I looked up the definition that's not what I meant lol

His name isn't as popular as skols and such, it's still at a point where the work needs to be mostly done himself and not by the words of product owners

Like this chat wouldn't have any eyes on the product if he himself didn't come here to sell it

[pure crown]

He already sent a picture of his gunstock and advertised it

No point of dming people about it

[rugged berry]

It would be ideal if those conversations were public, for the sake of the consumer getting what best matches their wants and needs, but I don't think it's worth getting so tied up about it

[pure crown]

I do since he laughs at @hollow zinc simply just posting a review about gunstocks which has his gunstock

[mental lance]

Why you're refusing to newcomers here? Every guy deserves to do what he thinks is useful. Overall people always choose themselves. The more comparison the better. I like newcomers. I love comparison. Marketing is our everyday life. Everyone do marketing. The only difference that one does better and another worse

[hollow zinc]

Yeah I made a joke about the dms. We can chill lol

[deep ravine]

F

[hollow zinc]

But it is kinda tacky. Not worth laying into folks though

[final citrus]

is gunstock calibration on the tomahawk vr work?

[mental lance]

Of course.

[mental lance]

Set to default and try again.

[final citrus]

i can’t get it at a good point where it feels natural to shoot, it doesn’t feel like it’s aligned properly maybe i’m doing calibration wrong?

[mental lance]

Check my discord from product description. Yesterday we together even figured out with cross eye shooter guy how to make it well. There is the Tabor calibration part with videos. I think you need to set to defaults, then turn off virtual gunstock, turn on junky aim and then calibrate. Make the front platform upper too. Anyways all in DMs here at any time.

[pure crown]

Marketing isn’t allowed on the server 👍maybe read the rules

[hardy osprey]

It’s against the rules in here.

[mental lance]

Nothing is marketing untill you call it marketing. Just think about it.

[pure crown]

What ? 😂

[hardy osprey]

Advertising is against the rules

[pure crown]

Sending messages to people asking for a gunstock is quite literally advertising

[hardy osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-right-you-know-morgan-freeman-he-is-right-gif-9789067

Damn you embed fall

[mental lance]

All I see here is advertising all alone.

[pure crown]

I don’t see that

Even before when you advertised you got warned it’s against the rules.

[hardy osprey]

He did get warned?

[pure crown]

People are here to get recommendations not get stuff pushed down their throats

[pure crown]

Yes.

[final citrus]

he was simply helping me with the gunstock I purchased? what he do wrong?

[pure crown]

We aren’t talking about you dude don’t worry

[final citrus]

👍

[mental lance]

Anyways Astreus deserves to be here as everybody else. Just take it into consideration.

I am here firstly because my clients need me here. And unfortunately nobody else can do that instead of me. So I think other guys too.

[hardy osprey]

You won’t agree with what he’s saying as you have been warned about and don’t agree with not being allowed to advertise

[lapis grove]

I think some clarification may be in order

I don’t think this channel was created with the intention of sellers in mind

[hardy osprey]

Tbh I find it annoying to see constant advertisements but I just move on.

[lapis grove]

I always thought it was for people to share and talk about their stocks and good options for other users

But not to actively push/promote gunstocks

And I understand where the standpoint for the latter comes from

But just like self-advertising your twitch channel isn’t allowed, I would say that actively telling a user to “buy this gunstock” is also off-limits in terms of the rules of this server

[hardy osprey]

It’s seems have come up as an issue frequently. It would be helpful if the admins could make a ruling on it. To clear up the air

[lapis grove]

Though, I do not use a stock myself, so I never really payed attention

[hardy osprey]

No stock ?Master of locks more like master of skill issue

[trail tundra]

I am in agreements with @lapis grove here, we are checking with admins on how we want to proceed further. While it is perfectly fine for the makers to offer help to people who need it... Promoting the sales and such isn't what this channel is intended for... We will update ASAP

[mental lance]

And that is the most wise position considering the situation and that nobody from newcomers read the rules.

[trail tundra]

Most do not read, and I believe most cannot read...

but we will iron this all out 100%

[gilded halo]

Yes this channel was not intended to sell and promote your stocks but to talk about them. It should really stay that way. Like everything Alpha said.

[lapis grove]

Who said I don’t land my shots

[hardy osprey]

You are a spoon, you don’t have arms silly

[trail tundra]

Appreciate you confirming!

[gilded halo]

refer anyone who has an issue to that or to dm me and ill tell them the same

[hardy osprey]

Can we get the channel description edited too?

[gilded halo]

shouldnt need too

it doesnt mention anything other than talk aboutyour favorite ones

[hardy osprey]

For mobile we can see that description when joining

[gilded halo]

not to sell them

[trail tundra]

Seems pretty straight forward to me

[lapis grove]

Who said I needed arms

[hardy osprey]

I bet you are a ladies man. You know… cause you know how to spoon

[lapis grove]

This is no longer about #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[viral leaf]

Update on my CGripVR, I slapped tf out of my arms bunch trying to med up and ended up dying bc I couldn’t get my bandage or NRDS activated in time. Might be a skill issue on my part for not knowing how to move around the stock, but that’s my latest update 🥲

[hardy osprey]

Left to right should be easy

[viral leaf]

I’ll have to try that

[hardy osprey]

How’s the pistol grip system feel?

[mental lance]

That all is great of course that you will be separating just talking from talking about what who bought. But the only thing I ask you is do not instantly ban new people, and talk to them before and explain something they're doing wrong. That will bring more new happy people into community.

[hardy osprey]

They didn’t ban anyone

[viral leaf]

Took a bit to get used to, but not bad. Once you remember where the grip is it feels pretty fluent

[mental lance]

Hope that

[hardy osprey]

If you can’t read the rules , then don’t join the discord. Ignorance isn’t an excuse

You have to accept them to join anyway

[gilded halo]

we dont ban anyone just for not knowing something, but if you are told and dont change it can be a mute or ban depending

[mental lance]

That's great👍

[hollow wadi]

Hey Alaska- apologies if there was a rule broken here on my part. Personally was just looking through the chats and watching other creators for sometime and looking at the content posted from gunstock creators and sponsors. Prior to making any decisions to post content here.

I think it would be great to set clear rules on what is or is not allowed.

Like posting links to YouTube of products weather or not by the individual creator- or a supporter etc.

If someone asks you should you be allowed to post a picture or dm them when they ask?

[heavy adder]

how are your experiences with istock

[gilded halo]

if you are posting a link for a person for like a review (even if its yours as long as its not pushed every minute or often) that is fine. But posting your own store link is what we mean

gotta remember its gunstock chat not gunstock buy and sell

[shrewd gust]

Any recommendations for a quest 2 stock? I have a 3d printer.

[hollow wadi]

James Bowk has open sourced files

For people to print on their own etc

[shrewd gust]

Can you link it pls

[hollow wadi]

He has a discord too

No don’t want to advertise- I’ll dm you though IF YOU WOULD LIKE. Don’t want to be considered tacky by fan boys

[gilded halo]

that wouldnt be advertising if you are giving something that isnt yours

[round dome]

What is the best way to configure gunstock? Rn it’s good for a m4 but when I switch to a vss it’s all fucked up. Or it that something I have to deal with and make on the fly adjustments?

[royal wagon]

you'll need to adjust your gunstock, good designs dont have a problem with this

[viral leaf]

@hollow wadi could you do that for me too?

[hollow wadi]

Bowk discord invite?

[viral leaf]

i was gonna say the open sources files but the disc inv works too

i can prolly find it in there

[sand plume]

Does anyone have any good gunstock suggestions for sniping for under $30

[round plinth]

Anyone have a recommendation for a gunstock for quest 3 that is easy to take off the controllers and put them back on with ease?

This is gunstock chat

[sand plume]

Yeah, I was about to say I am I in the right chat?

[hollow wadi]

Yeah sorry- meant to tag the list

[sand plume]

You’re fine

[hollow wadi]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[pure crown]

Do you have a budget ?

[round plinth]

Nope, willing to pay more if its worth it

[round plinth]

Nope, willing to pay more if its worth it

[pure crown]

Magtube seems to be the top choice

Fully carbon

[round plinth]

Oh okay, gonna check it out. Thanks

[pure crown]

Happy to help !

[hollow wadi]

Link to it directly is in that pin i sent fyi.

[round plinth]

Ok cool, thanks

[dreamy rover]

!wipe

[round plinth]

Question if you have the magtube, but would I have to change the stock every time I use another gun? Or is it pretty consistent with different guns and builds?

[pure crown]

You calibrate the in game guns to your liking

[hollow wadi]

Games usually have PHYSICAL gunstock calibration settings

Some games also have Virtual gunstock settings

[royal wagon]

i have mine setup so i need minimal adjustments between guns. mostly its a physical setup, but some of it is also the calibration in game to optimize the default offsets

[round plinth]

Gotcha, thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

[hollow wadi]

@round plinth this dudes been running a mag tube for like 7000 hours def your guy for info and feedback.

[round plinth]

Nice, if he has been running it for that long that is enough for me to be confident in buying it.

[near pasture]

Why do the devs refuse to address gunstock calibration? It’s horrible and absolutely infuriating after all of these months

Until they implement forehand calibration, the feature is basically a process of guess and check

[royal wagon]

check pins for steps on how to use the calibration system quickly and easily

[near pasture]

First step: have the developers address their faulty system. It’s the worst calibration system of all popular vr games and it’s not even close. Ignoring the issue because you enjoy the game isn’t a solution

[wooden swift]

does anyone know any good websites for a alright stock and not to expencive

[near pasture]

The only stock worth anything for this game is the MagTube. If you buy any other stock with the expectation of using it in this game you’ll be severely disappointed.

[wooden swift]

can it use quest 2 controllers?

[near pasture]

Yes

[wooden swift]

ok

[royal wagon]

did you check the pins for the instructions? it specifically addresses the last issue you stated

[near pasture]

Yes, I’ve read the instructions, I’ve actually been in your stream before and spoke with you about this very issue. The instructions are a workaround. And it’s an imperfect one. Is it possible to end at a somewhat reasonable solution. Sure. I have no problem admitting that. It still involves trial and error.

[royal wagon]

the suggestion wasnt made out of a reaction, it was made because you mentioned "guess and check"

which is no longer the case

there are newer instructions

[near pasture]

Even dropping the preview weapon, it is not a perfect solution. There is still inconsistency somehow between where the gun is.

[royal wagon]

i have not found that to be the case. i find it is exact

[wooden swift]

wait are you the streamer with the training saber?

[near pasture]

In my experience, the issue is centered around the grip point being too sensitive. Grabbing the gun occasionally pulls it left or right. Yet I can not figure out exactly what causes it because hand placement is seemingly in the same spot.

[royal wagon]

are you using a gun without a foregrip?

[near pasture]

I don’t use foregrips in this game because they’re too finicky with gunstocks that aren’t adjustable.

[royal wagon]

its a yes or no question because there is a bug related to guns without foregrips attached

ok, thats most of your problem there

that will get resolved soon

[near pasture]

What is the bug?

[royal wagon]

probably next patch

the gun goes to the hand instead of hte hand to the gun, so if your hand isnt in the proper position when grabbing + calibrating the gun, it will not be in the correct position the next time you repeat it

[near pasture]

Ah. I imagine that would cause the issue I’m referring to.

[royal wagon]

and i would try getting it sorted out with foregrips, you are leaving an insane amount of recoil on the table

[near pasture]

I certainly would love to use foregrips, but I don’t want to buy a new gunstock for one game.

[royal wagon]

using the 'drop weapon and grab real weapon' technique you might be able to get the necessary adjustments done

my AR setup is straight at the moment, though i do tilt my front controller

[royal wagon]

[wooden swift]

ill take that as a yes?

[near pasture]

Whenever I place a grip on a gun, it shifts upwards and no matter how I try to calibrate I can’t arrive at a comfortable solution.

[royal wagon]

theres no adjustments on your stock?

at all?

[near pasture]

Unfortunately not, although I do maintain I don’t think gunstocks should have to be adjustable. I understand that point is arguable.

It’s a Kobra stock

[royal wagon]

well, regardless of the calibration capabilities of the game, i dont think non-adjustable gunstocks are viable because you are accepting the ergonomics designed for somebody elses body

by not being able to fully optimize a gunstock to your body (size of head, neck, shoulders, arms) you are possibly playing with a suboptimal weapon

reducing speed, accuracy and ease of use

my magtube is calibrated first to my body, and i use the gunstock calibration system in tabor to optimize it for my gunstock

the stock offsets on everything are pushed really far forwards, causing terrible eye relief

[near pasture]

If I understand what you’re saying, it essentially boils down to an uncalibrated stock would feel off due to not aligning right with the in game visuals right?

[royal wagon]

thats part 2 of optimizing your gunstock to be the most effective

part 1 is equally if not more important, and thats getting the gunstock to be optimized for your body

different height, head sizes, arm length, etc all affect the optimal sizing of a rifle

this isnt a vr thing, this is done with irl weapons when you can properly customize them

[near pasture]

Yes, and I don’t actually disagree with any of your points. My point when I say an uncalibrated stock should be useable is that the great thing about technology is things can be developed to overcome shortcomings. Even if my IRL stock is inefficient and suboptimal in comparison to how I would hold a real weapon. I don’t think the in game performance should suffer.

And to your credit. I am REALLY interested to see if that bug gets addressed. Because when you explained it, it does seem to contribute to part of what I consider to be janky about tabor gunplay.

[royal wagon]

thats silly, if a stock is non adjustable you would have one stock design that works and because of differences in design another stock that doesnt

ive been doing VR long enough to not have gunstock calibration systems exist, you made your stock work with the game

otherwise you are saying every vr game dev ever should make guns have the same shape

which is equally as silly

[near pasture]

That’s not true, because when you have forehand calibration the gun is perfectly centered around your irl stock.

[near pasture]

I don’t necessarily see an issue with this. So it may be personal preference.

[pure crown]

I need a good gunstock with a budget of 150 usd

[royal wagon]

so the first VR FPS game that implemented two handed weapons decided, no matter how inaccurate or interactive, the design everyone should use forever?

regardless of engine differences or gun shapes? a mac10 is the same as a barret?

[near pasture]

I have never worked on a vr project, but I would imagine each gun type (SMG, AR, shotgun, etc..) would have a separate one

I also am not saying it has to be that way, I’m just saying I don’t see a problem with it.

[royal wagon]

You are glossing over a lot of incontrovertible aspects of game design

[near pasture]

Like what?

[royal wagon]

Devs don’t release their code for others to use for one thing. They have different engines for another

[near pasture]

Look man. I think we’re in agreement much more than it seems. I’ve always said smart people say i don’t know. Im not telling you I know the solution. Im not even telling you I know how other developers have achieved it. Im just simply saying other games have a much more comprehensive gunstock calibration system. And like most things coding I’m sure there are many ways to get there.

EDIT: well besides the fact that forehand calibration is a great feature for calibrating gunstocks.

I do enjoy the game, think it does a lot of things right. However, I see their current system as a huge issue especially to new players.

[royal wagon]

And a million more after you get around to implementing hands, difference in controllers between platforms, making you have to hold a gun accurately, etc

Good news is the game isn’t done yet, so more features will come

[rich ocean]

Can you test one thing for me ? I think I found a bug but it might be well known thing as well. If you calibrate your gun and it's all well and good if you grip it and use both triggers at the same time (like you use it to confirm the calibration) gun goes haywire on you. Killed myself like that while trying to shoot and use flashlight few times.

[rich ocean]

Which kobra do you have ? Really like the design of these stocks.

[near pasture]

Kobra Sidewinder. I've loved it so much it's one of the main reasons I've held off upgrading to a quest 3. The foldable stock is incredible. The special forehand grip he's created feels incredibly natural. Once I finally make the switch to Q3, its a debate for me over the Kobra Maglock Ultra and the MagTube.

[royal wagon]

Not seen this, have you deleted your savegame?

I’ve heard of stuff like this, I suspect it’s a quest thing because I’ve never seen this

The people I’ve suggested deleting savegame and redoing calibration have told me that it fixed it

[near pasture]

MagLock ultra is also slightly adjustable, so I'd imagine it probably fairs decently in this game.

[rich ocean]

It's not like it stays this way tho if you grip again it goes back to what you calibrated

[royal wagon]

You aren’t touching another weapon when this happens?

[gloomy blade]

Yo man, what 7th vr stock did u get or do u have?

And howcome ur getting a ultistock, is this due to it being better than the 7th or u just trying it out?

[rich ocean]

No I'll record it it's simultaneous trigger pull on both controllers that causes this to happen. It's repeatable so it's not a problem to recreate.

[gloomy blade]

Thoughts on butcher stock anyone?

[rich ocean]

Expensive but I guess nice

[gloomy blade]

All stocks are expensive thougj

Any recommendations for a better one similar price

if not cheaper

[rich ocean]

Depend on what you really want m8. They make them in milion shapes. What is your headset.

[gloomy blade]

Quest 3

I mean honestly i just wanna be able to smoke kids bc currently takes me a couple seconds to ads

so would be nice to quick ads some ppl

something durable obviously that will last me ages

[rich ocean]

Magtube is very adjustable, durable and precise. But from all the designs a lot of people say it's sometimes slow and clunky ( you need to get used to it a bit)
Quicker but in my opinion a bit less precise is ultistock.
And than you have pseudo raidr from 7th VR just don't buy official ghost of Tabor gunstock.... It's really bad at the moment.

[gloomy blade]

ngl, was looking at the magtubes but id have to get carbon apparently and £167 is not worth imo

ngl heard some things abt ultistock apparently they break easily

cant find pseudo raidr

[gloomy blade]

What're u running?

[rich ocean]

I run just regular magtube I like it but I'm no god of this game. Although I have mine for as long as I have my quest 2

[gloomy blade]

hmm u dont have carbon, some dud was saying that i need to make sure to fully carbon it

is there any need?

he spoke about it messing with tracking or smthn

[royal wagon]

It’s a known issue

It’s not a requirement, but it is recommended

[gloomy blade]

Ahh

What stocks would u recommend? i heard u have owned a magtube for like over 7k hrs of usage however any other stocks u would recommend?

[royal wagon]

No, and my recommendation is to avoid the others

Save up for the full carbon mag tube

[gloomy blade]

I have more than enough for it however

[royal wagon]

There ya go, you can buy my recommendation

[gloomy blade]

lmaoooo

I mean like im not spending £167 on a tube

[rich ocean]

Never had an issue with any tracking and in my opinion if you want to you can just paint over the "reflective pipe" she ain't that shiny

[gloomy blade]

Yeah i could just put ducktape over the chrome tube

[rich ocean]

Do what you want carbon is probably a bit lighter. I'm a Sunday player but I like my magtube it's a fun thing to use and never fails me. It's not like I'm in the realm of lightning fast ads and reload. Thing is I don't care I just want to have fun

[gloomy blade]

Yeah i understand u completely, ive been clapping people free aim however ive been watching streamers, youtubers and mates and they just clap with a gunstock

so i might just buy the chrome verson, weight wont be an issue bc if anything means extra gains yk, also i could just tape over it so

Thanks for the help man

[gloomy blade]

Also would u honestly recommend the prostraps grips

[rich ocean]

For quest most definitely they are good quality and work with cups that they designed. It's a good solution and I disconnected my strings completely.

[gloomy blade]

u remember how much u payed for your stock setup?

including the straps and stuff

Also do i get the 2 points sling or the 1 points sling

[rich ocean]

I bought it on sale but around 120 i think

[hollow wadi]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Tons of options out there enjoy your browsing

[gloomy blade]

Cheers brother

[rich ocean]

I have one point but honestly you can get one and if you ever feel like experimenting just buy the other from like Airsoft store or something.

[gloomy blade]

120 dollars?

[rich ocean]

Euro but it's almost the same

Can't really remember exactly how much it was

[gloomy blade]

fairs

So what actually is a 2 points sling?

Just attatches to two points?

[rich ocean]

One point is a loop with bungee. 2 point is like a long strap that attaches at front and back. Both have their benefits.

[gloomy blade]

Also i noticed u had the Mk1 butsock howcome?

sorry for all the questions just rather ask someone who actually has one yk

[rich ocean]

I bought it 2 years ago

[gloomy blade]

Ahhh

Think imma just buy on icl

If i got a two point couldnt i just only attatch one?

So i can test both

yk

[rich ocean]

No

[royal wagon]

you can always convert a two point to a single point

[gloomy blade]

Yeah

[gloomy blade]

wym

rage be lurkin fr

[rich ocean]

I mean yeah you can loop it I guess

Brain fart

[royal wagon]

just connect both to a single connection point

[gloomy blade]

Ahh

[royal wagon]

thats what i do

[gloomy blade]

Yeah imma just buy a two point

[gloomy blade]

Ahh noice man

[royal wagon]

but i have a magpul ms1 padded sling (dont get the padded)

[gloomy blade]

Is padded something u bought like on the side extra?

As in a seperate thing

[royal wagon]

https://magpul.com/ms1-padded-sling.html?mp_global_color=118

the padded is fine its just kinda silly tbh

[gloomy blade]

Ahh

fk it imma just cop one

the magpul i mean

[gloomy blade]

Super random just curious if yk if there is any discount codes other than the WELCOME10 10% one

[steep orbit]

I Loved my Kobra Sidewinder and Bought a sinlaki because I was impatient when Q3 came out, but I didn't like it for Ghost of Tabor. Other games it was fine. BUT THEN! i found BrandoVR Ultistock and its just freaking awesome if you like the sindewinder

[gloomy blade]

is it heavy or?

[rich ocean]

I'm literally holding it in one hand it's a few hollow tubes and a bit of 3d printed parts. I think they list on website how much each version ways

Definitely under a kilo

I mean if you are able to open a pickle jar you won't feel it much. Only time I felt like I'm getting tired was from not ergonomic position of my body, my hands never got tired.

[gloomy blade]

seems stupid to get a carbon ngl

especcialy seeing as they cost so much extra

[rich ocean]

I would not say it's stupid. Nice to have a choice. I guess with carbon you get a bit more bite on tube itself (in some setups on my magtube tubes can rotate inside the 3dprinted hinge if I put some force on it). I got regular as I didn't at the time see a point in spending extra and till this day I really don't. I never felt like I needed my stock to be lighter.

[gloomy blade]

wym "bite on tube itself"?

durability or?

[rich ocean]

No

Texture

[gloomy blade]

ah

[rich ocean]

Carbon is not smooth compared to polished metal tube.

[gloomy blade]

true

[near pasture]

Looks pretty neat actually, don't know how I feel about the forearm brace though lol.

[gloomy blade]

Im legit one click away from buying one but

[gloomy blade]

only thing is idk if i should get carbon

[steep orbit]

Get the half cup 😎

[near pasture]

Oh nice lol. I'll keep it in mind when I upgrade

[steep orbit]

That’s what I use, but I’ll switch to forearm sometimes

But I love the always on hand design like the Kobra 🥹 I wished they made more Q3 options

[rich ocean]

Do what you feel like you get carbon awesome you get regular awesome as well. And I'm definitely not taking it as a challenge to tell you to buy reg. Buy what you feel like you want.

[steep orbit]

But also it took a month to get to me 😂

[near pasture]

It took two for me lmao

[steep orbit]

DAING!

[near pasture]

And that's actually my least favorite part of the sidewinder, makes throwing nades hard lmao

unless you mean his front grip design, then no i love it lol

[steep orbit]

@gloomy blade I think anything but carbon might cause tracking issues

[gloomy blade]

howcome

bc rage said that the chrome will cause tracking issues

[steep orbit]

The metallic reflecting

Yeah the chrome! That’s what I meant. So I WOULD get carbon

[gloomy blade]

😦

ive been up for 6hrs thinkin abt this shiii

so many dif opinions lmaooo

[steep orbit]

I liked the front no magnet grip

[rich ocean]

Stop repeating the same story on quest it doesn't and it shouldn't. Again never had any issue with tracking have you ?

[steep orbit]

just get carbon + Black

I was just remembering what ragesac said about the chrome

[near pasture]

Yeah great design

[steep orbit]

thats all I know about the protube

[gloomy blade]

£35 extra for carbon isnt bad

[rich ocean]

Think about it if it would cause so many tracking issues why would they sell chrome version? It doesn't cause any issues not with inside out tracking

[rich ocean]

Get it than

[gloomy blade]

Fk it

[steep orbit]

I think for other controllers it fine, might be just with Q3, But im not sure if thats what Ragesac said

the only time i'm personally had tracking issues is if i'm blocking the off hand controller with the main hand controller from the headset view

oh shit the double carbon makes it $60 more

[gloomy blade]

not doing double carbon

[rich ocean]

Yeah that is possible. I think the only headset that Chrome would be problematic is a psvr with those colourful wands

[gloomy blade]

imma just get carbon tube

[steep orbit]

I wish there was a universal haptic module for any gunstock

[rich ocean]

I think I have carbon cups XD but I bought it on sale and those were cheaper than standard ones at the time

[rich ocean]

Wouldn't work with ulti and many more designs. It's heavy there is and motor and battery inside.

[steep orbit]

😩

[rich ocean]

Let me know when you get to use it. I'm sure you will be happy with it. Just remember it takes a day or two to get the config correct and learn where to attach. Patience pays off.

[gloomy blade]

Okay, will do

[leaden grail]

can you use the angled grip with a stock

[strange stone]

almost finished

[ashen hull]

Looks great

[round dome]

After doing a couple raids with gunstock, still adjusting but my aim has never been more stable. Need to find a way to adjust it quickly for different guns

[neat tulip]

U can’t just calibrate it in ur settings?

[neat tulip]

Gunstock calibration

[round dome]

I have a modus r, would the best thing be to loosen the thing where you put your check and move it up and down?

[round dome]

I have it perfect for a m4 but when using a VSS it’s totally different while still being a AR

[neat tulip]

Oh shit yeah that’s definitely a problem

[round dome]

So I just need to find a way how I can quickly adjust it, my best guess is to loosen the cheekrest so I can move it up and down quickly

[rugged berry]

I think the tracking issues are only an issue with like the index and probably other outside-in tracking headsets.

Like the rift, vive, bigscreen beyond, etc

[haughty pelican]

Any tips to fix the amount of play that the Tabor Raidr stock has? The plate pivots at least 10° left and right on both controller mounts. I’ve tightened the screws as much as they’ll go (to the point where if I twist any further the screw heads will strip.

) end parenthesis lol

[jaunty lynx]

My friend wants to know

Is the 7th vr basic gunstock work for q3?

And q2

[random folio]

At the same time

[jaunty lynx]

Yes

[pure crown]

It works for quest 2 and quest 3 yes

[jaunty lynx]

@random folio

[jaunty lynx]

At same time?

[neat tulip]

What does at the same time mean

[jaunty lynx]

Idk tbh my friend asked

[rugged berry]

I believe they mean can one cup version fit both controller types

Which would be a no

[jaunty lynx]

@random folio 😔

My friend wants to get one but he also thinks he might upgrade to q3 eventually

[pure crown]

No. There is a quest 2 and quest 3 version

[random folio]

Aw

[jaunty lynx]

😔🙏

[hardy osprey]

Rubber. Put rubber or paper under it and it’ll grip better

[edgy flower]

Yess

[random folio]

Is there any gun stock that fits quest 3 and quest 2 controllers?

[pure crown]

Ultistock

[random folio]

Do you have the link

[pure crown]

There isn’t a universal cup

You have to choose either quest 2 cups or quest 3.

[random folio]

But i can change the cups and order cuos seperatly?

[pure crown]

If you will get a quest 3 soon get the quest 3 version

[random folio]

I dont know when yet

[pure crown]

I think you can only with ultistock

[random folio]

I will take a look

[fervent socket]

Any one used the kobra maglock ultra?

[rugged berry]

I do believe so, you could get the stock with whatever version, and also order a separate cup under the replacement parts listing

You can definitely change the cup

You can order a cup separately

I checked

It costs $10

[random folio]

Okay

Thanks

[left heart]

3D-printed a gun stock, ain't pretty but it works

what do ya'll think?

[ashen hull]

Looks awesome buddy!

[left heart]

Thanks buddy! apericiate it

[ashen hull]

Quest 2?

[left heart]

number 3

[ashen hull]

Ahh dude

It'll be a night and day difference with shooting

[left heart]

haha that's what I thought, it's hard to be consistent when your "gun" is 2 lose controlers

[ashen hull]

😂

True hahaha

[left heart]

If I'd print this proberly, u think I could sell these?

[hardy osprey]

You attached it wrong

[left heart]

I know, made some mistake in the slicer, but I made it work

good eye though

[hardy osprey]

I have the same one in my room

Never bought a sling so I never used it

[left heart]

damm, just played my first raids with it, maddd nice bro

definetly reprinting the controller mounts with a higher infill%

I van hear the suffering haha

can*

[hardy osprey]

45%

[left heart]

yea some' like that

I used 1-% :(

10*

[left heart]

what exactly do u think is wrong btw? (for science)

[hardy osprey]

What do you mean

[left heart]

u said it's atached wrong'

wrong how

[hardy osprey]

That piece doesn’t go vertical

[left heart]

which one does then?

[hardy osprey]

The butt pad piece

I guess it’s possible it a remix but this is the original

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2828833

[left heart]

that's not the same one bro

[hardy osprey]

Link the one you used

[rich ocean]

You are joking right? You want to sell open source gunstock that someone was nice enough to share? Wow

[left heart]

No not that design, my own

[rich ocean]

If you use different cup design since this is not yours and completely different gunstock and come up with a brand maybe

[left heart]

What do u mean different cup, I'm talkimg my own design, not a remix

[rich ocean]

Different design for controller cups (where u insert your controller). You know that manufacturing something takes a lot of knowledge to make it work. You have to think of price shipping and after sale support. Definitely more than one printer needed. Maybe not at the start but you need to think of space where would you put another ones and where will you store your printed parts.

[left heart]

Not talking bout a brand, just a few sales on ebay

[rich ocean]

And price wise you really can't go higher than 60 dollars if you want to stay competetive

[left heart]

I know

[hardy osprey]

Nah you said if Id print this properly, you think I could sell these?

[left heart]

These refering to gun stocks, my bad

[hardy osprey]

Ok

[left heart]

❤️

[near pasture]

Im not if you think that specific cup design is copyrighted, but it’s not.

Im not saying trying to sell an open source gunstock is a good idea, I’m just saying the cup isn’t what makes it a bad idea.

And you don’t need more than one printer, unless you have the sales to require more than one printer. That’s how pretty much all small businesses work.

[rich ocean]

I know they are not but still designing aomethin and poor copy are two different things. He's probably just a kid that wants some quick cash.

[near pasture]

I 100% agree, which is why it’s a bad idea. However, I don’t support giving objectively bad advice. Everyone should strive to business owners.

[left heart]

I'm an engineer

Mechatronics

[rich ocean]

I know that that's what I said. He needs to think for the future. If he gets successful eventually he will get another one. Storage is also a concern.

[left heart]

Brother what are u talking about? I said a few sales on ebay. What'd I need big storage for?

[rich ocean]

Cool you can be astronaut for me doesn't matter and the fact that you assembled the stock wrong just shows that title doesn't really matter here.

[left heart]

What thee

😂👍

[rich ocean]

No one wants to buy something that won't have any future support. I'm just telling you how it is. It can be a perfectly good side hustle but doing a quick buck few prints seems like a scam.

[left heart]

A scam ? I'd be giving someone what they pay for. Scam? Brother open a dictionary

[near pasture]

Yeah man, I’m not really sure I see the issue. Kobra VR makes all of his stocks by order.

[left heart]

He's just gaslighting

[near pasture]

I think you’re overthinking it. You don’t need to worry about storage before you even sell a single stock. And you don’t need to worry about multiple printers when you don’t have the demand.

[left heart]

Don't stress it

[left heart]

Exactly

[rich ocean]

Do what you want show your design and try to get some sales. Maybe you will make it and stay in business.

[left heart]

Make what? I am talking just a few sales

[near pasture]

With all that being said, I do think the design is very basic and can’t really see any appeal to it.

[rich ocean]

Make it on a bigger scale than few sales.... Would be nice to manufacture something that you designed right ? And make a living out of it.

[near pasture]

That’s just objectively bad advice.

You don’t waste money producing something you might never need.

[left heart]

That's not my design, just one I got from thingiverse.com, If I'd sell something Imma have to design my own ofcourse

[rich ocean]

How so ? Growing business after some time out of a hobby is bad?

[left heart]

It ain't my goal

[near pasture]

You grow the business as demand grows @rich ocean

[rich ocean]

What is your goal ?

[near pasture]

You don’t just start printing a bunch of stocks and hope it sells.

[left heart]

Economics 101

[rich ocean]

That's what I meant for God sake.

[left heart]

I've said it three times now, just a few sales on ebay

[rich ocean]

Do it knock yourself out. First design the stock tho

[near pasture]

His plan of selling a few on eBay makes sense. It’s actually how KobraVR started. IF he ever needed to expand he could.

[rich ocean]

My point

[near pasture]

It’s almost as if you’re arguing to argue.

[hardy osprey]

Yea this is pointless. Move on.

[near pasture]

It literally hasn’t been your point. You told him he needs more than one printer and to worry about storage?? You make no sense

[rugged berry]

I don't think anything is trying to argue, I think there was just some miscommunication lol

[left heart]

I thank you very much 🫲

[rugged berry]

"if he gets successful"

Literally like the first message

[rich ocean]

He needst to think about this stuff to not wake up one day when he decides to go all in that he has no space. Think not have dude WTF.

[hardy osprey]

Still waiting for that link though

[hardy osprey]

It doesn’t take any space to print stocks tbh

[left heart]

I'm sorry, which link?

[hardy osprey]

Link to that print you downloaded

[left heart]

Ah yes sure thing

[left heart]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4709000

[hardy osprey]

Yea it’s a remix. The original is pretty amazing tbh

[left heart]

How do u know? You've never used it