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[pure crown]

I haven't glazed anyone just giving my opinion

[rich ocean]

It has literally no influence on usage over time. Maybe it is a bit more Inertia in your hands but that's it. The way one uses magtube weight is not the limiting factor. And it's balanced I feel that matters much more than weight itself

[pure crown]

Lol

Still makes a difference

If you dont like my opinion stop replying

Cringe

Do you even own a magtube ?

[rich ocean]

Does not give you any edge. I don't care about your opinion much I'm trying to explain the difference between stock that you might have used and magtube.

I literally posted photos above

[pure crown]

I know how the magtube works all im saying is there's a difference in weight

It does matter

[rich ocean]

In what tell me...

[pure crown]

Playing for a longer amount of time

[rich ocean]

How ?

[pure crown]

When you play with something even 120G lighter for 10 hours you notice a difference

You can't prove my opinion wrong because it isnt. One version is a bit lighter and the other one isn't

[rich ocean]

Again most of the time it hangs on your shoulder. If you can tell 120 grams apart on your shoulder you are Hella weak. It's a preference if you want to pay more you can it's a bit lighter. It does not make in its use cases much difference. That's it. Don't tell people that it's an L to not buy non carbon version because it is cringe as fuck and it's not valid at all.

[pure crown]

Your opinion

You are the cringe grown man with no life arguing with a 16 year old 😂

[pure crown]

I said L as a joke but i understand why you wouldn't understand any good humor

I just said it matters never said it makes a big difference

[rich ocean]

Conversations with you are as fruitful like talking to a wall. But your age explains a lot. Read something and is an expert. And your humor is not funny nor intelligent. Not gonna try to make you think any more you are not type of person that does that often.

[pure crown]

Im way more mature then you

You can deny it all you want but it shows in you writing paragraphs and wasting your time while i laugh at you 🤣

Trying to insult how smart i am is a low point too

Get a life

[mental steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-and-patrick-gif-25184485

[wild ruin]

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For clarity this is specifically what I said ^

[hardy osprey]

Response time and fatigue

[rugged berry]

I know for sure you don't, nor do you own all the other stocks you are so quick to recommend

[pure crown]

I've watched dedicated reviews on them

[trim frigate]

Are the customer service people in today? Lol. Waiting on a response still wanna make sure I didn’t mess up LOL!

[pure crown]

All but the raidr because i thought Mamut would have a better launch with its reputation

[hardy osprey]

No need for that. Keep it civil

[pure crown]

I am ?

[hardy osprey]

They’ve only been out for a week and I don’t believe you have one.

[wild ruin]

response time is around 1 business day. don't forget to check spam folder.

[pure crown]

Still. Ive seen how many people have issues

[rugged berry]

Something happened with the raidr, it's a fact and hiding it is a disservice to everyone. Mamut is already aware and recognizes a problem, so I don't think personal experience is exactly relevant

[gusty elm]

Let me know what you think. I have a bad feeling a lot of people are going to be disappointed because it isn’t going to work with most guns. Yes there is calibration but unfortunately it’s not easy to setup. Curious what you find out.

[wild ruin]

If you've not received a response yet you should receive one tomorrow

[trim frigate]

Yes Mamut has already came in here and addressed the issue and has responded. They are working trying to figure out the issue in production. Mamut said that they need more customer feedback.

[trim frigate]

Yeah just wanna make sure thanks Jon.

[exotic hound]

Yeah I plan to try it tonight I’ll post my findings tonight

[gusty elm]

🫡

[hardy osprey]

customer feedback that’s the key phrase

[wild ruin]

Worst case can always send another, but I'd wait another day or 2 first.

If it hasn't shipped out and they've not responded yet they should still respond before it ships

[ashen hull]

What's the Raidr return policy like?

I'd imagine quite well

[pure crown]

14 days

[ashen hull]

Oh wow, very reasonable

My friend is selling his Index to buy a quest 3

He's after a stock

Gonna let him use my 7thVR one see what he thinks

bro lives downstairs haha

[pure crown]

Lol

[ashen hull]

Think he's selling his whole index kit for 750, so not bad!

[pure crown]

Does it have any defects or damage ?

[ashen hull]

It's almost perfect condition

[pure crown]

Almost ?

[rugged berry]

Index for 750 seems overpriced tbh

Even in good condition it's 4 or 5 year old hardware, used

[ashen hull]

He's barely used it, doesn't have time with his work

It looks excellent, basically been used a handful of times. Lighthouse stands, lighthouses etc, controllers and headset

I might cop haha

[trim frigate]

No worries. I can wait! Just wanna make sure it gets changed. I might get the grips too… but unsure.

[wild ruin]

I'm not involved with customer support directly, but I had told the person who is that a customer who ordered had sent one in to request a change

[hardy osprey]

Index 2 is supposedly to release or be revealed this year

[pure crown]

Where did you get that ?

[hardy osprey]

There was an article on pc gamer if I remember correctly. Angry joe talked about it a few weeks ago too

[pure crown]

I dont believe in those

Until we get a release date from Valve im not trusting anyone

[rugged berry]

I wouldn't be surprised

It's been a long time coming

And they may want to compete with the beyond

[dawn elk]

I very much doubt that, the beyond isnt that ordinary of an headset
atleast the way they're doing fitted facial interfaces

and wasn't deckard going for standalone / wireless pcvr, which would require a lot more hardware onboard

[trim frigate]

Thanks man!

[hardy osprey]

I’d assume the index 2 will have to be wireless to compete

[ashen hull]

valve never lets leaks get out usually

I'd be surprised if valve index 2 wasn't wireless

The "people" are saying it'll play PCVR wirelessly

like natively but idk

[primal lava]

Valve Index 2 will be released but not 3 🫣

[ashen hull]

xD

[full elk]

when I am using my gun stock my gun in-game drifts to the right when I let go and it gets me killed

[royal wagon]

how is that getting you killed when you are one handed?

the cause of that is that your rear controller is not pointing to the front controller, the gunstock calibration does not do any horizontal adjustments

[rich ocean]

What gunstock are you using ?

[manic swan]

For the magtube users with q2 controllers. I'm looking to get the hand straps do I need to get the mk1 or the mk2 for the cups. There diagram are a little lacking on the information.

[rich ocean]

That's a question for @wild ruin since I have no clue when MK2 showed up on the market.

[royal wagon]

are you talking about the mk2 butt?

[wild ruin]

For Quest 2 you get MK1. MK1 will work with both the cups and without the cups. Specifically this product (if not adding it onto an existing product like MagTube or Cup order): https://www.protubevr.com/en/vr-accessories/171-6237-prostraps-grips.html#/579-brand-meta_quest_2/622-prostraps_type-mk1_model_usable_with_and_without_controller_mounts

If selecting as an optional add on to something else like MagTube or cups, make sure you also select the correct one in the drop down.

[manic swan]

Awsome thanks.

[shy mulch]

Anyone that has used the Raidr have any thoughts or tips for setting it up? I should be receiving mine tomorrow

[hardy osprey]

@wild ruin the protube sale is still on right?

[dawn elk]

doesnt look like it

[pure crown]

How do I know when the radar is delivering

[hardy osprey]

You’ll get an email

[pure crown]

What would the email look like cuz funny thing is i have three Gmail the are close of lookalikes

🤣😅

[pure crown]

Lol

[hardy osprey]

You’ll get an email with the email address you used on the order saying it has been shipped and get the tracking number

[pure crown]

Ok

[pure crown]

What happens if I don't get one cuz I did pre-order on January 7 or is it I might have to wait for next shipment

[royal wagon]

it means it hasnt shipped yet

[hardy osprey]

I’d email them. It doesn’t seem like they are doing them in order

[pure crown]

Well I have heard ppl having issue not getting a email and getting there radar so that's why

[pure crown]

Ok

[frozen tiger]

Does anyone know anything about this gunstock https://www.etsy.com/listing/1585617894/cgripvr-vr-stock-for-all-quest-headsets?ref=share_v4_lx

[royal wagon]

very limited adjustability

[frozen tiger]

Ok dunno why pic didn’t show

[royal wagon]

gunstock adjustability is critical for a number of reasons

there is no one shape that fits all optimally, everyone should be adjusting their 3/4 point gunstock to be optimally ergonomic for their body

[wary rock]

ragesaq i just ordered my magtube yesterday, are there any additional mods you put on, ive heard of people switching th magnet cups and other things as wekk

[hardy osprey]

How much calibration does the protube take?

[royal wagon]

additionally, no adjustments lead to you being at the mercy of the gunstock designer and what they thought was a good alignment

in my opinion for a 3/4 point stock you need at minimum. adjustable distance of controller mounts, adjustable side to side rotation of controller mounts, adjustable front/back angular rotation of controller mounts, adjustable elevation between controllers, adjustable butt/cheek height/distance

[royal wagon]

you generally set it up once for your body and use it forever

theres a 3 part calibration process that i use

1: calibrate gunstock to body for optimal physical ergonomics. high ergonomics means faster speed, stability and precision
2: adjusting the front controller amount on the gunstock to be optimal for adjustments between weapons for your game
3: adjusting the games gunstock calibration to get the guns offsets to be optimal for your gunstock

[hardy osprey]

How long does that take?

[royal wagon]

it varies per person and their ability to follow the steps. most people find its rather fast

[wild ruin]

No

[dawn elk]

whens the next one going to be 🤔

[wild ruin]

Next best thing is 10% off when signing up to newsletter in this popup

[wild ruin]

keep an eye on our social media to be the first to know

[dawn elk]

not sure yet if ill be picking one up, had to skip this weekends discount

[wild ruin]

doubt there'd be another one this month

[dawn elk]

yeah makes sense

[wild ruin]

the newsletter 10% is always active - doesn't stack with other discounts though

[dawn elk]

even the 10% is already quite nice
think I signed up way back when I considered getting protube, but ended up not getting it

[wise ridge]

I need this asap lmao

[sleek gate]

So I’ve ordered the gunstock from the ghost of Tabor website. Does anyone know when it will ship because I’ve gotten no email about it

[wise ridge]

Not sure bro. I ordered from mamut because everyone was saying it was undetermined?

[sleek gate]

So should I go for a refund?

Or waited out because it’s been about two weeks

[wise ridge]

@royal wagon any suggestions for this guy bro?

[royal wagon]

dont expect any emails until it ships, you dont know when it will ship

[sleek gate]

Ok so I should wait it out

[wise ridge]

I’m probably so bro. Requesting a refund will just delay the process further imo they are very busy so by the time they get around to your email it may ship out haha.

No guarantee but waiting is probably a good option

[sleek gate]

Yeah ok thx

[dawn elk]

I had it next day after it give that status

[rustic vortex]

I ordered my JAN 15 and haven’t gotten a email yet lol

[south python]

Just got mine today

[pure crown]

So big chance mine might come in sence I do live in sc

[median cove]

How do you like it so far?

[pure crown]

Is it good ?

[granite grail]

How you like it?

[hardy osprey]

Mine comes Wednesday

[south python]

I am working right now, so haven't been able to try it out. I spent a good amount of time adjusting the hand positions to figure out what I liked the best. Construction feels solid. I was happy that I am able to keep the grips i purchased it helps with not having to constantly hold the controllers. Doesn't feel to heavy. I really like the magnet in the middle to do single hand actions. I tried some other stocks that I didn't like because of not having that feature

[pure crown]

Thank you for the honest review

[flint copper]

chat it arrives tmrw🗣️‼️☝️

[tawdry relic]

Hey is a gun stock really good like does it actually help?

[pure crown]

W

[flint copper]

dude im so excited cause im tired of dying to guys across the map that one tap

[pure crown]

I’m happy for you

[flint copper]

cause the slightest bit of shake throws me off and im like is the game worth playing

idk what the butt of the stocks helps stabilize but i'll figure it out

[tender pewter]

hi all, i've got 3d printer, got any gunstocks to recommend?

[reef stone]

are the quest 2 kiwi grips compatible with the magtube?

[rich ocean]

Nope

At least I don't think any grips are since it uses cups to press fit the controller

[vital hinge]

I also use the new AMVR grips. Love them! I’m so glad it works with these grips still installed!

[south python]

Fully agree. When I got those grips being able to just leave your hands open while playing was super nice.

[wild ruin]

Long story short no

More in depth answer is our controller holders keep the controllers in place with friction. They are designed with maximum friction in mind and fit the controllers perfectly. Controllers simply won't fit inside with any sort of cover or sleeve installed.

However, the insert we use to achieve that friction can be removed, which gives some mm of space for something over the controller. However the inside of the controller mount isn't perfectly smooth, and obviously if something over the controller is too thick it still won't fit. It also may not work as well to stay inside the controller holder.

We do offer our own straps that go over the hand like the Index controllers called ProStraps, and those are hard mounted directly to the controller holder mount at the bottom, and hard mounted to the Quest 2 controller at the top (thin layer on inside of battery cover)

This Strap can also be hard mounted to the bottom of the controller and used without the controller holder mount.

[jovial zinc]

How long after we order the stock do we get an email confirmation?

[half spade]

i ordered december 28th and just got my email 2 hours ago

[jovial zinc]

I was gonna say it’s been like 3-4 weeks maybe

[reef stone]

Really appreciate the detailed respone jon, someone give this guy a raise

[shy path]

Has anyone heard if there's gonna be an actual gunstock calibration like there is in Onward?

[silk snow]

Let’s gooooooo!

[scenic mantle]

hell yeah dude, i’m still waiting for mine lmao.

[gritty dragon]

Any recommendations for a gun stock with a sling that will work for the quest pro controllers?

[dry lodge]

still waiting on mine too lol @scenic mantle

Speaking of slings, the raidr doesn't come with one, does it?

[gritty dragon]

Unfortunately no

[scenic mantle]

if it did that would’ve been really sweet. maybe we can make our own DIY one.

[gritty dragon]

I'm sure you could

[scenic mantle]

maybe, but i think the stock is perfect the way it is currently.

[lethal sinew]

You don't need a sling for this style of gunstock... It's designed to be held at all times.

There when you need it (magnet clicks together)

Out of the way when you don't (detach magnets and do what needs to be done)

[noble plover]

is the gun stock good

[half spade]

i made a fixed stock one that i 3d printed but because of stock calibration thats a no go

like 3 hours of modeling and a week of printing to realize that at the last second

[topaz summit]

Depends what gun stalk u are talking about

[noble plover]

ghost of tabor

[violet depot]

Well if you look at the context up above..

[iron loom]

you can find slings on amazon for under $10 i got one for 5.99

[noble plover]

and what gun stick should i get

[iron loom]

i replied to the wrong guy fuck

[silk snow]

Raider update! I think it’s cool and I haven’t used it enough to give a good review but I can say this screw is the weak point on the buttstock side just because it carry’s the most weight. I think I might just throw an oring in there for a bushing and tighten it back down

[dawn elk]

Raidr really does not need a sling, I cant even imagine how itd work

[dawn elk]

Many people have issues with this screw during the first hours, the instructions also warn that it will resolve over time
for me, it has

kept tightening it after every raid or 2, eventually it just started to hold

[silk snow]

Thanks for the input I was afraid to strip it out 😮‍💨

[dawn elk]

though good ole loctite also would do wonders here

[silk snow]

That was my next go to

[dawn elk]

Which controllers do you have, and how are they mounting for ya?

[silk snow]

Q3 with a cover so far so good 👍🏼

[dawn elk]

ahh alright

[tiny stag]

Just got the notification, it’s on its way!

[gusty spear]

I'm still waiting on the notification that its on the way. I keep checking everyday with anticipation XD

[tiny stag]

I placed the order right when they released the preorders, in fact, I contacted Whitty about it Nov 1st

Since the pre orders weren’t yet available, I was seeing if he knew anything about it

[silk snow]

I found out mine shipped when I got a notification it was at my front door 😂

[gusty spear]

I feel like thats how im gonna find out it shipped too

[dawn elk]

there were very little shipping/eta updates
the doorbell just randomly ringed lol

7 Mar, 13:49
The shipment item has been delivered.

6 Mar, 20:07
The shipment item has arrived at the country of destination.

6 Mar, 01:02
The shipment item has left the country of the sender.

6 Mar, 01:02
The transport of the shipment item has started in the country of the sender.

4 Mar, 13:59
We have received a notification from your shipper that they are preparing an item for you. The tracking information will be updated when the parcel is handed over to PostNord.

[buoyant silo]

Hi all, I'm just getting into this great game but I'm having a real hard time calibrating my gunstock in-game, when I calibrate say the rifle via the menu it gives you a rifle without a sight and you can calibrate but once you go into the game and put a sight onto the rifle it's out of line, so how can you calibrate with a sight on the gun?

[lethal sinew]

Check pins in this channel.

Basically... you use that placeholder AK that you move around to "visualize" where your grip is. Make a mental note, change.

Then actually check with your preferred rifle + optic + grip combo.

[buoyant silo]

@lethal sinew Thanks for that, just what I needed,(great video in the pins👍 ) they sure don't make it easy lol

[limpid swan]

So I was right! The back one IS supposed to be the longer one!

Bruh. I was wondering why the official picture looked longer. Why they give me the small size??

[lethal sinew]

Did... You not get the long tube in the box?

[limpid swan]

Hell no...

[lethal sinew]

Lol that's whack. Claim insurance issue on your shipment. For some reason they packed the butt stock with the base kit in the box. Outside is the tube that's longer wrapped very flimsy like in the box for me. Luckily mine was all in the priority box though

Wow that reads terrible.

[limpid swan]

This is wack. And would I hit up mamut for this issue or ghost of tabor email from website?

[trim frigate]

yeah i was using the placeholder gun as to calibrate whoops lol instead of actually using the gun i want lol

[limpid swan]

All good, I get wym.

[lethal sinew]

Whoever u ordered from ig. I'm not sure.

[limpid swan]

Straight from tabor website

[dawn elk]

Yeah the butts supposed to come with a longer tube lol

I would've liked it a bit longer still, can't imagine using the butt on the short tube 💀

Chizys picture straight out of the box, before swapping tubes

[limpid swan]

I was wondering why my wrists hurt. Then I remember the website saying it was longer, assumed this was it. The picture that hoodwerks posted is my first time seeing the long version to actually compare. It definitely hurts my wrists with how short it is lol

[limpid swan]

Oh whatttt. It comes with 3 tubes in total? That's bump. Mine only came with the 2

[dawn elk]

The longer tube you get with the butt is almost longer than the whole base set

[dawn elk]

Not if you don't get the butt
With the butt, it should yes

[limpid swan]

It does

[dawn elk]

They just deadass missed or lost a part in your package lol

[dawn elk]

That's crazy

How was the butt packaged? In the main box or

For me it was in a second paper/plastic lined bag, butt and tube together

[limpid swan]

Oh wild. the butt part was in the box with the tubes, wrapped in some plastic wrap

[dawn elk]

Bruh

Yeah I'd contact GoT for that one

Can't imagine it's comfortable in that config 😅

Length difference is mad

[limpid swan]

I can't find an email. I may hit up modmail, idk. And yeh completely uncomfortable. Long sessions are painful ngl. That set up looks craaazzyyyy. I'm starting to get heated thinking about how that could've totally been a better first impression had I gotten it.

[half spade]

i gotchu

it wont let me send their email

[lethal sinew]

Auto mod aggressive on it now...

[half spade]

1 sec

[dawn elk]

Think got has a general support mail?
And I can imagine this messing up first impressionsz thats really unfortunate

[lethal sinew]

Support @combatwaffle

[half spade]

that one

[dawn elk]

Automod has been a real bitch lately

[lethal sinew]

Dot com

Yee

[dawn elk]

It be messing up my dumb jokes

[limpid swan]

For sure. Thank you.

[dawn elk]

Ok never mind just trigger automod again lmaooo

I have no clue how at this pojt

[dawn elk]

Deadass I wished it was a bit longer still 💀

Idealy I'd move the trigger controller further back to decrease leverage even more, but that just gets too close

[lethal sinew]

After a certain length you'll have issues using bandages

[dawn elk]

Yeah at one point I physically couldn't reload AWM lmao

Stocks just banged up

[half spade]

overall was the stock worth it?

[dawn elk]

I'm still quite clumsy bandaging, and especially using ladders

[dawn elk]

It's been pretty decent yeah
Controller cups needs fixing though

[lethal sinew]

Yeah ladders are my worst enemy

[dawn elk]

Before moving the controller back along the tube, I've had the whole stock fall out underneath my controller while climbing

Since only my pinky holds the cup

[half spade]

im assuming its gotta be better than this monstrosity

[dawn elk]

That's quite something

[lethal sinew]

Your ring finger take a walk? 😁

[dawn elk]

That's on my controller

Though generally even my pinky is, then it's nothing on the cup

More comfortable, less stable

[lethal sinew]

Yikes. I might try that for fun

[dawn elk]

I do not have big hands at all

Fits perfectly fine for me xd

[limpid swan]

Support@combatwaffle dot com right? I just shot that email a couple photos and an explanation.

[trim frigate]

yeah the raider makes my left head go numb

[dawn elk]

You were going to do a new, more in depth video right?

[lethal sinew]

Yep. mikeal will sort you out.

[lethal sinew]

Yes.

[half spade]

at least on that monstrosity i made, some cheap $10 knuckle straps made life so much better

[limpid swan]

Awesome. Hopefully he's as good at emails as he is with jewelry

[lethal sinew]

I'm frequenting this chat and mamut for more info and input

[half spade]

it takes the weight off of your pinky and ring

[dawn elk]

I genuinely hope they'll come up with something for the cups before my refund window expires
I want this to work out, but do not want the window to expire without having a fix either since it's still pretty bad
Usable, but not good

[lethal sinew]

I feel bad about my initial video...so I gotta do justice. 😂

[dawn elk]

We were all figuring it out, and the cups were really the main blow

[lethal sinew]

My thoughts as well. I'll keep it, but just wanted to hope for the best.

I was really hoping the cup solution would have been implemented better. It's rough

[limpid swan]

Exactly why I haven't made a video on the raidr yet. I've noticed some things are user error EXCEPT the awful screws that hold in the cup

[lethal sinew]

The wobblies are user error as well .

"Didn't you read the instructions? They tighten over time"

[dawn elk]

I can't really afford to keep it while also getting a different stock, and the current cups just don't cut it to keep as my only stock

[limpid swan]

Idk if this is sarcasm or not and I'm terrified 🫠

[dawn elk]

This aint user error as far as I can tell
Right before this I made sure to tighten everything
It's purely the controller to spine attachment that does this

[lethal sinew]

That's the response everyone gets for asking why it's so loose

[dawn elk]

Sent that to Mamut support and they told me to tighten the screws lol

[trim frigate]

LOL!!!!!!

[half spade]

shot in the dark, would changing the screws help?

[trim frigate]

Tighten the screws. Ticket closed.

[limpid swan]

Mine is even worse... Like I can turn my hands almost 180 degrees

[dawn elk]

So I dead ass sent back a video of me tightening the screws, attaching the controllers, and showing exact same wobble
Have not heard back yet

[lethal sinew]

Oh it's only the first week

[dawn elk]

The spine is attached rock-fucking-solid for my stock

[limpid swan]

I plan on getting some plumbers tape and seeing if that stabilizes my issue. It's rough.

[trim frigate]

nah get the red

[limpid swan]

We already went over this. 🤣

[dawn elk]

But yah, good stock if it gets fixed
Until then, hardly fair to really judge it yet I think

[trim frigate]

HAHAH! Trying to see if you remember LOL!

[lethal sinew]

[dawn elk]

Oh also the controllers getting scratched the absolute fuck up isn't exactly a good look for the product

[trim frigate]

I think once they address like the...what... 3 issues? I think it will be a good starter stock

[dawn elk]

But my controller is already chipping
Idk how plastic chips
But it does

[dawn elk]

3?
Just one for me

[limpid swan]

My buttstock scratched the metal/carbon whatever material on my stock itself.

[trim frigate]

Cups, screws and scratching is what i got

[dawn elk]

Oh my tubes are scratched the fuck up just from adjusting position of the spines lol

Ah scratching ye fair
Didn't consider that because of my already fucked controllers

[limpid swan]

Oh same

[dawn elk]

And screws was an issue, but solved itself for me

As advertised

[pure crown]

How long does it take for the Gunstock on the GoT website to come in? I’m in the US

[half spade]

how long did it take

[half spade]

yes

[dawn elk]

4 5 hours of use I think, idk
Tightening every 30 minutes between that

[pure crown]

Wdym yes?

[half spade]

yes

[dawn elk]

Y e s

[lethal sinew]

When did you order it?

[limpid swan]

You guys have no idea how relieved I am to see there's an actual extension piece. My arms are going to be so thankful once I get the other piece 😭

[pure crown]

I havnt yet. Might sometime tomorrow

[dawn elk]

Lmaooo

[trim frigate]

well you cant lol

i think its still "out of stock"

[dawn elk]

I'd seriously just use it without the butt until you get it
Like the base stock

[pure crown]

Ok

[lethal sinew]

Paused orders.

[trim frigate]

yes

[primal lava]

I'm selling an extra brand new Raidr with buttstock if anyone needs one while the the GoT site is not selling it

[trim frigate]

500$

[pure crown]

Any other good gunstocks? Not crazy expensive

[dawn elk]

I happen to know someone who needs the longer tube

[trim frigate]

whats your budget buddy 😄

[dawn elk]

[pure crown]

70-80 max

[trim frigate]

yeah he was just in here a bit ago... think his shoulder gave out

[limpid swan]

Truly considering so I don't gotta wait😭

Wait... If they out of stock(s) does that mean... I don't wanna finish the sentence 🥲

[dawn elk]

Nah there's stock, it's on pause due to the issues

[trim frigate]

just paused orders till they figure it all out

[dawn elk]

i think

[lethal sinew]

They have stock. They just need to review what went wrong and how they can help future shipments

[limpid swan]

Oh damn. I legit just scrolled up. Sorry for the repeat question/answer lol

[lethal sinew]

I read that on the mamut discord

[dawn elk]

I'm mostly just curious how they're going to resolve it for existing customers

Idc about future shipments

New rubber piece that's more sturdy? Whole ass new cups? Will it be sent out on them or no

[trim frigate]

Tomahawk or Butcher by SKOLVR
7thVR Regular

or if you want look into getting a magtube. Also heard good things about the Onestock by WieldVR but it might be too expensive.

[limpid swan]

Personally, if they just give me my extension and maybe a super good deal on a better cup, I'd be happy about it ngl.

[trim frigate]

i have a feeling they might just mold new cups for the different headsets

then reconvene on the universal

[limpid swan]

Butcher by skol all dayyyy imo

[dawn elk]

I wouldn't be stoked about having to buy revised parts, Raidr is already quite expensive for what you get

[lethal sinew]

I imagine... They're doing:

• Pulling all the 'hats' off
• Reshooting the instructions video
• Getting to the bottom of rubber mold issues
• Loctite partnership
• New screws altogether

Joke post

[dawn elk]

That'd be the best move

Sure, all controllers fit
But none fit very well

[trim frigate]

Well Mamut already said that the prototypes where perfect so they figured out it was during producition that something happened so will be interesting to see what happened during production

[dawn elk]

The hat story remains interesting lmao

[limpid swan]

I agree. I'm just saying at the very least.

[dawn elk]

If it can be fixed with rubber molding, and the universal cup stays, all the power to Mamut
If it works then great

But that controller better hold on rock solid

[trim frigate]

whats the hat story!? I missed it

[limpid swan]

And using different threaded screws

[dawn elk]

Rubber end caps designed to fall of

[limpid swan]

The nipple piece has a hat that was glued on lol people thought it was broken

[dawn elk]

While many customers missed the memo and assumed broken parts

[trim frigate]

they might go to different design for the cups. Like instead of the strap they might go ACTUAL cups if that makes sense

[trim frigate]

OH yeah that LOL

[lethal sinew]

Updated

[dawn elk]

I had that hat fall off while taking everything out of packaging, absolutely no chance it stayed on xd
Now it's a fidget toy on my desk LOL

[limpid swan]

It really should've just been designed with the hat though. It just makes for a more secure point. Idk why it was added last second "for shipping purposes"

[dawn elk]

Loctite partnership

[primal lava]

No way they can come up with new cup designs and be fully tested that soon.

They are probably looking for a quickfix

[dawn elk]

It would never reach the hat / increase sturdiness

[trim frigate]

nah knowing mamut they want a permeant fix

id rather have them figure out a 1 all be all solution and not a quick fix even if it takes time

[dawn elk]

Whatever they end up fixing, I won't risk going past the refund window to await it 😅
As good as future designs might be, what I have in hand ain't it

[trim frigate]

We got 14 days right? and thats when the shipment arrived? Cause if it was when the order was placed then welp we all are F'ed LOL!

[dawn elk]

Ye

I wonder wtf they can do with returned units, due to the tubes scratching even under normal use

[trim frigate]

Sand it down and reuse?

[dawn elk]

That's not how the carbon finish works

[trim frigate]

is it ACTUAL carbon or is just a wrap?

[half spade]

wrap

[trim frigate]

thats what i thought

[dawn elk]

It's probably a carbon composite?

[limpid swan]

I didn't even use mine before it scratched 💀 I just put the butt on the stock

[primal lava]

They won't get a permanent fix in the time of your 14 day return window 🤿

[half spade]

carbon fiber doesnt scratch that easily dawg

[trim frigate]

possibly but theres hope lol

[dawn elk]

Installing the butt scratched it
Undoing the latch to turn them upright and position scratched them
Trying different positions..

[lethal sinew]

[dawn elk]

idk if I should've jumped on the magtube sale
A permanent fix within 2 weeks isn't extremely likely to be honest

[limpid swan]

Had to reread the comment. I inhaled too much copium, my apologies 😂

[lethal sinew]

This was fun, early bird Raidr chat

(dinner waiting for me)

[dawn elk]

I be talking bout this shit at 03.30
I need god and grass

[limpid swan]

But very highly unlikely. I still can't justify the one piece gunstock with shoulder strap being a necessity.

[dawn elk]

Oh and sleep

Oh I'll go magtube if Raidr gets returned lol

[royal wagon]

Shoulder strap is a huge win

[limpid swan]

I feel like the magtube would be more of a prop piece and less of something useful when in the moment.

[primal lava]

I preordered this one: https://wieldvr.com/
THIS one looks ingenius

[royal wagon]

Putting your controllers in your stock to let go and have hands free to mess with your headset or get water is huge

[dawn elk]

Something I'm struggling with is adjusting my headset when using raidr

[royal wagon]

Nah, Magtube is a killer. It’s supremely well engineered. Everything is extremely fast, extremely precise and extremely ergonomic

[dawn elk]

And I be adjusting my headset a ton

[limpid swan]

I just connect my magnets together and hold the raidr with one hand while my free hand gets something I need.

[dawn elk]

That doesn't hold for me lol

[royal wagon]

Yeah but now do that with both hands

[primal lava]

It is. Problem is the price is not 😭

[dawn elk]

Proceeds to throw entire stock across the room

[limpid swan]

I got the kiwi headstrap. It's super easy to lift the headsset and make adjustments with one hand

[dawn elk]

And I don't got a quest 😅

[royal wagon]

Yeah but adjust your headset, make a change on your keyboard, drink some water

[limpid swan]

In game it just doesn't quick and easy as the raidr. When I'm not in game, it's easy to set aside and get right back into it

[royal wagon]

Buy nice cry once

[dawn elk]

Honestly I think the chance I'll return Raidr and get magtube is fairly big
Shame, genuinely like the concept of the Raidr
Just has flaws I can't be dealing with, and it's too expensive to set aside and wait for a fix while getting something else in the meantime

[limpid swan]

It just looks like a nuisance hanging around your neck half the time. Imagine fumbling trying to find the stock hanging down. It just doesn't seem like you'd be able to be super quick if someone were to sneak attack you

[royal wagon]

And yet if you have used one you know that’s not an issue

[limpid swan]

The butcher by skol looks like the bigger and sturdier stock for the mid section magnet idea.

[primal lava]

I think on Black Friday the magtube gets a much bigger discount than 10 or 15 percent. I might wait till then.

[limpid swan]

I'm just going off what I've heard and what I see. My friend has one with strap and he says it sits in his closest half the time. He only brings it out to impress his people lol

[dawn elk]

Eh Raidr was fun to try, especially since it's by GoT in a sense
But if that ain't it, I'll to tried and true on the protube

[royal wagon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SwissCooperativeScorpionTakeNRG--EITUI6IyMoV9uby

[primal lava]

Are you using 2 point or 1 point sling with it? Trying to figure the best way to go between inventory and the gunstock

[royal wagon]

Here’s someone who surprised me while I was looting and didn’t have both hands on stock

[royal wagon]

I’m in 1 point mode

[dawn elk]

My friends use protube and enjoy it
I was going to buy it, until I heard about the Raidr and decided to wait 3 months
Now I might just get it anyway, rip those 3 months free aiming lol

[trim frigate]

oh rage is here lol! Currently watching your last stream

[royal wagon]

[dawn elk]

Man that big screen is a thing of beaut lol

[limpid swan]

So your right hand stays on the stock the entire time?

[royal wagon]

No, it just was at that time

Much like how you might use a rifle irl

[trim frigate]

Those video settings you restored, will they be decent for a Q2?

[royal wagon]

(That’s the secret, it’s just like how you use a rifle irl)

[royal wagon]

Dunno, try it and let me know

[limpid swan]

Now show me a clip where both hands aren't on the stock. Because the idea is to be able to use both hands easily accessible

[trim frigate]

Will do! I wrote them down so will try them

[royal wagon]

Happens every night, I’ll ask someone to clip it next time

Once you get your stock set up and used to it it’s as natural as can be

[trim frigate]

the stream im watching he is doing it now lol at 01:10

[royal wagon]

Clip it Kenshi

[limpid swan]

This is a game. I'm trying to be accurate and also quick and accessible.

[primal lava]

Do you even bother using the gunstock at close range? Seems like a dead weight till you get some range

[royal wagon]

That’s the beauty of the Magtube design, best of both

[limpid swan]

Eh. I guess I'm just a hater of the design then.

[royal wagon]

I do, check one of my streams where I sprint through and clear museum

I have yet to be beaten in museum

[dawn elk]

Man this magtube talk got me wanting to order lol

Need to decide on what's my best move going to be

[trim frigate]

https://clips.twitch.tv/GentleLuckyRaisinNerfRedBlaster-xUt9uKlTiQIQD_DJ

[trim frigate]

Would've helped if i was logged in LOL

[trim frigate]

I would LOL i did

[dawn elk]

@royal wagon can you tell anything about the magtube tripod? Looks kinda fun, but wtf would you place it on when standing in the middle of your play space with nothing around

[trim frigate]

Magtube is probably gonna be my last stock so gonna let it be the decked out all carbon tubes with grips and maybe get the mk2 stock

[royal wagon]

Only useful for when you are going >1000m shooting

[dawn elk]

So nothing but a gimmick in tabor

[royal wagon]

Yes. There is currently no vr game that gains an advantage from it

[dawn elk]

Right

[royal wagon]

1km shots aren’t that hard in games that have it implemented

Only shooting ranges have that range

[dawn elk]

Man I do really want to enjoy the Raidr, but going magtube is probably just the better decision, especially rn.
It might be really good after some revisions, but thats not present day
Need to sleep on it
Mostly because it's almost 4 am

[dawn elk]

Can't imagine seeing movement past like 350m, especially with the resolution im playing at lmaooo

Finna need that big screen beyond at that point

[trim frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[trim frigate]

Do it!

[dawn elk]

I'll have to retour before ordering anyway

[gritty dragon]

Do you have any gun stock recombinations that uses a sling and will work for the quest pro controllers?

[rich ocean]

What happened? The same thing like always everywhere in production. The prototypes are one offs from which you make final spec and cost cutting. Now they made to many speed ups or quality cuts to make it more mass producable. It's like always management blames people who actually have done nothing wrong. Production will be blamed. Sucks not gonna lie

[trim frigate]

whats your budget?

[gritty dragon]

Price isn't a issue

[trim frigate]

id go with the magtube tbh So many people recommend it.

[gritty dragon]

I'll have to look into it

Thx for the help

[trim frigate]

Anytime man! Let me know if you need anything else

[gritty dragon]

Will do

[royal wagon]

Magtube has a cup for every controller made

[dawn elk]

Do they have pimax cups 🤔

[gritty dragon]

I guess I'll be making another purchase lol

[gritty dragon]

Do you have a web link for it?

[royal wagon]

I’m on mobile, if you type !magtube in my channel you’ll get a link

[gritty dragon]

Alrighty, thx for the help

[trim frigate]

https://www.protubevr.com/en/

[wild ruin]

technically yes technically no

multiple customers have reported that Quest 1/Rift S cups work really well for the Crystal controllers

[gritty dragon]

Thank you

[trim frigate]

of course and if you have questions regarding ordering or anything Jon here can help a TON!

[wild ruin]

Ender's VRcade also did a review video for Pimax Crystal and tested some different ProTube products and shared his results, I think he mainly tested Quest 2 and Quest Pro cups. So Quest 1 would work better than what he shows in his video

[gritty dragon]

[rich ocean]

That MK2 stock looks sweet if you have it let me know how it works. I think if Tabor acts out too much with calibration you can always drop the cheekweld and use it as raidr. For Tabor it is a great addition.

[trim frigate]

yeah i probably pick it up later down the road. Just got the carbon tubes and cups and the grips. So will stick with that for a bit. Excited for it. Hopefully it gets shipped out tomorrow so it will hopefully be here this weekend

[rich ocean]

I have the original MK1 stock and I love it. Only gripe is with some guns and quest tracking it can get in the way something that mkii solves. If you could make it quick release or toolless release it would be so nice to use

[rich ocean]

You probably have the MK2 buttstock how is it ? Big improvement over MK1 ?

[royal wagon]

i have it the same size as the mk1, but in case you need it a different size its a lot easier to slide the cheek rest up and down than to reconfigure your back end

[rich ocean]

Yeah that's what I thought so when you find bloody cx you can use it lol

[timber bolt]

Shoutout BrandoDrumVR on Etsy. I have so much mobility with this thing. https://www.etsy.com/shop/BrandoDrumVR

[topaz summit]

Is it sturdy?

[rich ocean]

Looks good

[topaz summit]

How is mobility with it?

[snow crow]

Its fairly sturdy as a 3d plastic gets, it’s no metal but it’s good

[topaz summit]

I already bought one so I might as well ask the questions now but also ok

[silent swallow]

Does anyone know if I buy the mag tube for the quest 3 can I still use my quest 2 controllers on it or no?

[snow crow]

Mobility is good just got to get used to it strapped to you

[topaz summit]

There's a sling with it?

[snow crow]

No but it will strap to your dominant hand

[topaz summit]

Oh

Well I can survive I think

[snow crow]

Don’t expect to be a god with it

[topaz summit]

I'm not

[snow crow]

You won’t be it’s a big learning curve

[topaz summit]

I've never had a gunstock so

[snow crow]

Make sure you also spend time calibrating weapons

[topaz summit]

I'm planing ok it

[snow crow]

Angled grips are your best friend

Also some weapons are janky and won’t grip due to Werid placements of the grip able areas like the sks

[topaz summit]

I already can tell with a gun stock I can't imagine using a straight for grip

[snow crow]

But I Hurd they are working on gun specific calibration

[topaz summit]

Well good to know and thanks

[snow crow]

Let me know if you have any other questions about it 👍👍

[topaz summit]

It's out for me already I already did it and it helped my aim a good bit and I currently don't have a gun stock

[snow crow]

You’ll get used to it training will be your best friend

[topaz summit]

I already use training a lot for aim practice lol

For a ex if my friend is in a raid and I died IL just organize my bunker or go to the shooting range

[worn berry]

Frankenstein gun stock

[tall quiver]

Anyone gotten the gunstock calibration working fine? Cause it fucks my hands pitch when not holding a fun

[pure crown]

is it true that tabor guns don’t line up with gunstocks because they are at an angle? + why are they angled

[last cove]

Does anyone know if you can use the stock with kiwi grips?

[pure crown]

Which stock are you trying to use with them ?

[last cove]

These grips and I'm thinking of getting the raidr gunstock the cheaper one on their site

[pure crown]

There is no cheaper raidr on their site. The cheaper thing is a buttstock addon for the raidr not a gunstock

[last cove]

Ohhh ok I didnt know that I probably misread it but yeah would it still work with those grips I'm assuming not just wanna make sure

[pure crown]

I have the kiwi quest 3 grips and im pretty sure ill be able to use my raidr with them

So you probably can

[last cove]

Ok sweet I'm not getting it anytime soon bc I'm broke but yeah just wanted to know in case I do get it

[pure crown]

I'm not certain tho

[pure crown]

Yeah no worries

[last cove]

I don't mind taking the grips off I just use them so I don't have to use only the straps and I have a feeling if I take it off I'ma keep dropping them (wrist strap always on but yeah 😂)

[pure crown]

Hm

Best to keep the straps on

[last cove]

Yeah I usually do unless I'm putting my controllers down every minute or so

[pure crown]

Yeah

[flint copper]

getting mine hopefully today or tmrw

[brazen river]

Everyone, I'm wondering if it's better to have a shorter VR gun stock? I'm aiming for quick targeting now, and I'm considering whether to shorten my gun stock or remove the buttstock to make it overall shorter. However, I'm not sure how much distance I should keep between the left and right controllers. Should it be 20 cm?

[glad scroll]

I have 18cm between controllers and it works just as good for long range, as long as the controllers are stable enough so no wiggle

and also with buttstock

which in my case is 25cm behind the trigger hand

a bit on the shorter side so not the most ergonomic position, but it still works as good and with more freedom to move the stock around

[brazen river]

Actually, as long as in the game the left and right hands have already gripped the gun, can its length be even shorter? However, 25 cm for the buttstock feels a bit too long to me. I'm hoping to find a suitable gun stock because in some recent games that require quick aiming, I've found it difficult to swing the gun from side to side.

[glad scroll]

yes, hold it in game then attach to gunstock and it still works as long as it's not getting too close (then it will start pointing upwards for example, but usually it doesn't happen)

[glad scroll]

25cm too long?

it's shorter than the half of my arm

[brazen river]

Oh, are you referring to the overall length? Sorry, my English isn't very good. Then indeed, that's quite short. My gun stock is about 48 cm in length. But I'm curious, does your 25 cm overall length include the buttstock, as in the part that braces against the shoulder? I'm concerned that if it's too short, it might collide with the VR headset. By the way, I'm using the Quest 3.

[glad scroll]

no problem swining here, I use it a lot in breachers

[glad scroll]

no only 25cm behind the dominant hand

overall mine is 40cm

[brazen river]

The length of my trigger handle, measuring from the middle bottom part to the buttstock, is about 21 cm.

[glad scroll]

the length between the 2 controllers also impacts how close you buttstock will be to you when you're holding it with 2 hand

[brazen river]

I'm somewhat clueless now and feel a bit uncomfortable with my aiming speed. So, I plan to reduce the size of the gun stock first.

[glad scroll]

so you could have 30cm from trigger hand to buttstock, but 5cm between the 2 controllers, you'll have more freedom than 21cm from trigger hand to buttstock and let's say 27cm between controllers

[glad scroll]

if I was you I'll reduce the distance between the 2 controllers as much as possible as long as it can still handle every gun and without problems

if you reduce the part behind your trigger hand, so to the buttstock, it will become even more uncomfortable and you could even start to get tracking issues since your controller will be too close to your headset

[pure crown]

Did you make that ?

[brazen river]

Hmm. What do you think is the appropriate length for the buttstock to avoid hitting the VR headset?

[glad scroll]

if I start measuring from the very back of my trigger controller, it's exactly 20cm

[brazen river]

Okay, thank you. Then I'll try to keep it above 20 cm. I don't want it to hit my VR headset.

[glad scroll]

I don't have much issues hitting the headset, although maybe you should lower the height of your buttstock a bit

[brazen river]

Are you asking if I made it? No, I didn't. I bought it. I'm in China, where there are platforms for second-hand transactions, and some people DIY their own.

[glad scroll]

sometimes you have to put your head very low to aim into ironsights, especially with pistols, you should try on your end but maybe the top of you buttstock will hit your headset when trying to aim down sights

[brazen river]

Are you referring to the part where the controller connects to the tube? Yes, mainly it's that area that controls the vertical angle of the handle.

[pure crown]

Okay. I asked because it looks well made

[glad scroll]

I mean this, the proportions are inaccurate, but you should check if this happens, especially with iron sight handgun

[brazen river]

Every time I enter a game, I need to readjust the position of the firearm to ensure that lifting my hand to aim aligns perfectly with my eyes. So, if I tilt the handle downward by about 45 degrees, making it more downward-facing, would that make aiming more comfortable?

[glad scroll]

why do you have to readjust it each game? Don't forget you can also adjust the angle in the game only with the menu/settings

[brazen river]

For every new VR game, I make sure to adjust the settings.

[glad scroll]

oh yes for every new VR game

[brazen river]

Everyone, I'm wondering if it's necessary to add a sling to the gun stock? Can it improve the feel of handling?

[severe plume]

I haven’t received an order confirmation or tracking info for my gunstock yet

[balmy drum]

Same

[glad scroll]

You don't need a sling with your type of gunstock, I also use these controller grips they are very nice especially for the price

[clear sable]

anyone getting or got the ghost raider gun stock?

[brazen river]

I'm referring to the part where the sling is attached. I'm thinking of adding this to my gun stock; perhaps it would make aiming more comfortable?

[glad scroll]

I use the exact same ones, and I higly recommend it

[thorny steeple]

nice i made my own gunstock

it works pretty good it only broke 1 time in 2 months and bc i made it, it is really easy to repair

[manic swan]

For the type of gunstock you are useing yeah highly reccomeneded knuckle grips since your attached at all times. Will be alot more comfortable instead of having to have a closed grip the whole time

Hey even for the mag tub I just bought knuckles there just comfortable for s long play ses

[lean hare]

Nice! I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas for mine to come. I ordered the XL Kit plus last week. Can’t come soon enough!

[topaz summit]

Hope u like it I think I'm gonna really like mine even tho I've never had one I got the full kit with everything

[lean hare]

Yeah I hope so, very interested in the brace design, seems like that would be the most versatile design for games like contractors showdown and tabor being that you are often switching guns in the same match and looting

[topaz summit]

Fr I just can't wait for mine to come

[lean hare]

I probably would have been fine with the base kit with just the brace, but I got the kit plus because it also comes with both front grip types too in case I want to use those with other games

Hoping it comes this week, but idk, haven’t heard anything yet

[topaz summit]

Same

Tbh but Brandon is a good guy from all I've heard so I hope mine comes soon

[lean hare]

Oh yeah, I’m sure it’ll come, just don’t know what his lead time is. I’ve talked to him a few times here and on Etsy, and he seems like a really good dude

[topaz summit]

I was reading the reviews and he actually offered to send someone out new parts or a refund even tho it wasn't his fault and they put it together wrong it looked like he said

[topaz summit]

Now I can't wait for mine to get here and use it I've not heard more then 1 bad thing and that was bc they put it together wrong Brandon said on a reply to the review

[bleak geode]

When is ghost of Tabor gonna release the gunstock?

[pure crown]

Hi yall

[reef stone]

About to order a protube. Any problems playing seated?

(wondering if should bother with the 2 point sling if I'm always playing seated anyway)

[tulip turret]

Sup :3

May someone recommend a gun stock for quest 2 ? :3

[dawn elk]

It has?

[thorny steeple]

Idk but i have heard people say that the tabor stock is very good

[tulip turret]

Alr thx mate

[thorny steeple]

Bc the hand placement is different in tabor the any other games so i would recomend a stock that is suitable for tabor

[reef stone]

i have seen only one instance of positive feedback about the raidr

[thorny steeple]

Did they play tabor with it or any other game?

[tulip turret]

Didn’t know that ;0 thx

[thorny steeple]

Yh most games have their hand placement in the middle 1 straight line. but in tabor you need a split stock otherwise the gun will be very bad at hitting targets

[bleak geode]

Is the gunstock out?

Ghost of Tabor gun stock

[thorny steeple]

It is but its sold out

[reef stone]

it was in the tabor discord 2-3 days ago so i'm guessing tabor

[bleak geode]

I mean, is it gonna ship today?

Cause I bought it like a month ago

[thorny steeple]

Idk maybe check ur emails

[bleak geode]

Alr

But anybody wanna play ghost of tabor?

[dawn elk]

Most people I know who have one had poor initial impressions, but it definitely got better over time
Stock has issues, thare being looked into, which is also why sales are paused

[rugged berry]

I don't even think you can buy the raidr for the moment but I will always recommend waiting for proper reviews

[dawn elk]

yeah sales are on-hold to resolve the initial issues

[rugged berry]

Pre launch or post launch, good or bad initial impressions, I'd still recommend waiting for actual reviews

[dawn elk]

ive had very little issue with it being straight-tube, and getting good calibration

sending people wobble-free cups free of charge would go a long way, especially if they're less painful to hold
the easily scratching finish is also really not ideal, though does not impact usage by any means. The controllers getting scratched it up a bigger issue imo
I dont consider weight an issue at all, using the bottstock

[rugged berry]

The only purpose of the split stock design is to provide more freedom to each hand which is nice in every game but really in games that have a large focus on aspects outside of just the guns, such as Tabor. I haven't seen any gunstock not have the controllers in a straight line, raidr included. Because actual guns have the grips in line

[dawn elk]

when talking about straight-tube stocks, its about height difference, not any side-to-side movement
generally its preferred to have the front-hand a tad lower, to make sure you arent aiming at an upwards angle

[rugged berry]

I don't think the front controller mount on the raidr is any lower than the rear one, nor on many other stocks I've seen

[thorny steeple]

I have seen them but mostly for pavlov

[rugged berry]

But I would think you would want the front controller in line or a bit higher, because generally guns have the pistol grip lower than the handguard, and sometimes a foregrip, but I haven't actually paid attention to the positioning of my controllers when playing VR

[dawn elk]

magtube

[rugged berry]

I was thinking of that and any other highly adjustable stock but I still don't think I typically see the front grip adjusted lower

Heck on the store page it shows it higher

[royal wagon]

it depends on a number of factors

but if you get a magtube you'll be able to always adjust your setup to both fit your body (max ergo = max speed and precision) as well as the game

[reef stone]

yo rage, do you ever play seated with your magtube? is the sling still necessary?

[royal wagon]

i dont, and its a good idea yes

playing games seated where you reach down to the ground frequently is not the most viable thing

[reef stone]

appreciate it. pretty sure I'm going to give it a shot but i do most of my taborin' seated with the crouch button

[royal wagon]

should be just as viable

[timber bolt]

It’s amazing! Definitely a learning curve - what a device though really makes the difference

[timber bolt]

Let’s gooooo ! I only waited a week lmao but def felt like the longest week

[timber bolt]

Yeah, sturdier than I anticipated - being able to customize this thing and it’s current price point make this a excellent option

[chilly dragon]

My Tabor Raider shipped!

[pure crown]

I xant wait for mine

[ancient temple]

hows the opinions on cgrip?

[hollow narwhal]

do they send an email?

[sleek gate]

How long did it take you for it to ship

[candid crystal]

Any opinions on istock?

[chilly dragon]

Yep

[chilly dragon]

I think I ordered day it was announced. Not sure what time since I didn’t get an initial confirmation email when I ordered.

I did get an email confirming it shipped

I just checked. The confirmation email said I ordered Jan 2nd

[blissful isle]

I can only play seated due to a disability atm. It's not hard to do at all. Properly calibrate height and be mindful of where the stock is as you reach

[hollow narwhal]

i ordered around valentines day so hopefully it comes soon

[wraith fossil]

Has anybody else used their raidr stock yet? I received mine and I'm using an index. The controller holders do not seem very secure. Is there a trick to them that I'm not aware of?

[royal wagon]

if you find out le tme know, that was my findings as well

[sleek gate]

OK cause I ordered one so it’s gonna be about a month until I get mine

[median cove]

My raidr stock has spent a week to get to chicago, I'm in Norway so it might be a while lmao

[pure crown]

My one is arriving tomorrow

[lean hare]

Did you order off his Etsy store? Did it update with tracking when it shipped or did it just show up one day?

Just asking out of curiosity, it’s only been a couple days

[limpid swan]

Anyone know the weight of the tabor gunstock? the regular size vs the extended size? A buddy is asking and I'm curious too actually lol

[dawn elk]

I could get some weights later

Chizy took a picture of all parts together, short and extended tube if you're interested in that

final assembly would be ligher, because its either/or part

[limpid swan]

Oh nice, thank you! Based on this picture I will assume about 10-15% of the weight will come from the short stick until accurate measures are taken. I'm not at home ATM otherwise I would test it now.

[blissful isle]

I really wasnt impressed with the radr controller mounts for the same reason. The reason it's "secure" at all is by design you're supposed to be holding the metal rod

[dawn elk]

they're working on better controller mounting

it is inteded to be mounted such that you only need to hold onto the controller

[low sparrow]

Im exited for mine to come in 🙏🏻

[clear sable]

is it good ? worth it ?

[limpid swan]

I'm just disappointed the screws don't hold the cup in place. Literally my only gripe now that I've concluded most of all my problems were user error lol

[timber bolt]

It updated as it moved between distribution centers

[lean hare]

Ok cool thanks

[topaz summit]

I bought one a few days ago i just wanted to make sure

[timber bolt]

@lean hare @topaz summit I had same worries when I was waiting. Since it’s printed and all - but expectations were exceeded - seems like he’s tweaked and changed things based on feedback

[topaz summit]

Yep I've not heard many bad things the only thing I heard off a review on etasy was it broke and its not sturdy but they put it together wrong he said and he offered to ship free parts or a refund

[timber bolt]

@topaz summit right. Can’t get that kind of service anywhere. After your order ships, he also discounts future purchases so if you ever need replacement parts it’s literally so cheap

[strong creek]

What gunstock is the best for tabor?

[manic swan]

Biased opinion magtube. Unbiased magtube or raidr

[hardy osprey]

From the posting In here I’d say magtube but I have a raidr that I’ll actually get tomorrow so then I can input personally on it

[manic swan]

The adjustability and angle adjustments make it ergonomically adjustable to most anyone

[severe plume]

How long did it take for anyone to receive their GoT stock?

[blissful isle]

if you mean the screw that goes through the bottom and magnet, what I did was put a washer on the inside where the cup goes. With that washer it locks in no problem

[limpid swan]

I was going to get some plumbers tape. I don't have any washers that small although that doesn't sound too shabby of an idea. If anything less shabby then my plan 😂

[finite turret]

Does the tomahawk really improve aim and stabilization?

[old gorge]

Are there any suggested gunstocks especially for unsteady hands

[hardy osprey]

All stocks do

Saw this review and thought it was worth sharing

Have to say…this is an awesome gunstock! I don’t use physical gunstock or the virtual gunstock options in game. I just adjusted my grip angle in the options to compensate how the back controller sits. The stock is customizable enough, I simply set it up to fit my current play style and it works! I do have two criticisms about it, but please do not let my opinion sway you from buying one. I absolutely love this gunstock!

First, the rubber grips that hold your controller…not a fan. My Quest 3 controllers slide very slightly up after a few raids, and if you don’t adjust/slide them back down, they may pop out during a raid. Again, it was 2-3 raids before I noticed they slid up.

Last, the weight of the stock WITH the buttstock attachment. If you got the buttstock attachment, the buttstock itself is a metal part. The extra added weight doesn’t affect my Tabor gameplay at all, but I did notice the extra weight restricts you from playing other FPS games that are more fast paced, like Contractors: Showdown. For Tabor, the buttstock is an amazing addition. It makes aiming in even more comfortable having a stock to rest your shoulder on. Again, for other games that are more fast paced, I recommend not using the buttstock attachment. Also, grabbing your backpack and throwing a grenade using the hand you have the buttstock attached to, does take some getting used to, but isn’t a huge concern.

8.5/10

[limpid swan]

The butcher stock he just released looks wildly insane for a game like tabor tbh same price as the raidr too

[finite turret]

I like how the tomahawk has 3 in 1.

[rare stirrup]

just wish he made them compatible with the valve index as id buy one if he did but no luck

[finite turret]

I thought he said he was planning on?

[rare stirrup]

no idea iv not checked as i just presumed he was only making them for the quest but if he is then id be tied between the tomahawk and the GOT gunstock that splits in two

[finite turret]

So your saying its good even though you haven't used it?

[limpid swan]

Me two. I would love to play around with it for something like blade and sorcery

[finite turret]

You havent got it?

[limpid swan]

No. I just REALLY love the design of the tomahawk and butcher. I was going to buy the tomahawk but the week I was prepared to do it the raidr stock got announced.

[finite turret]

Whats the raidr stock? I havent heard of it.

[limpid swan]

The official CWS Ghosts of tabor stock.

[finite turret]

The one on the offical website?

[limpid swan]

Yes

[finite turret]

Is it any good? It looks cool.

[limpid swan]

The only downside is the screws that hold the cup in place get loose after any sort of play. It is tolerable but aggravating. Despite this one flaw, I am loving it. Idk how I ever played without it. The magnet being quick and easy to detach for any sort of action I'm doing is really nice.

[finite turret]

I mean it is cheaper, but i dont know. Thanks for the info though.

[limpid swan]

I'd definitely recommend the butcher vs the raidr. But that's for the time being. I'm curious to see how the raidr stock will enhance due to feedback. Also the raidr stock is currently unavailable if that helps make up a decision lol idk when they will be back in stock

[pure crown]

You can't recommend something you haven't used

I stopped doing it because you never know how good a product is before you actually try it

[limpid swan]

As true as that is, from the reviews I've seen, I haven't heard any complaints about the butcher nor tomahawk and I don't need to try them out to know the design looks fantastic. Just like I didn't need to play suicide squad to know it was going to flop.

[pure crown]

You do. The tomahawk is way too heavy about 800 grams more then a magtube.

The price doesn't compare to the quality

And many other things

I understand supporting a company but when you haven't tried anything from them don't recommend it

I don't mean to come off as rude or anything im just letting you know

There's a review of it from someone

[limpid swan]

Which is why I tell people go towards the butcher if anything. And that seems to be around the same weight as every other normal stock I've seen that doesn't detach, though I could absolutely be wrong. I get where your coming from, but I am being pretty transparent about me not having used it. I recommend it because others recommend it and since others, including some I know, love it and I love the design, i find it fair to suggest it to others.

[limpid swan]

This is for the tomahawk. I definitely suggest the butcher more than anything

[royal wagon]

the tomahawk weighs how much?

[pure crown]

Just letting you know

[pure crown]

Around 820 grams

[royal wagon]

dang

didnt expect that

[pure crown]

More then a magtube

[hoary kettle]

Bro we aren’t drug dealers. Use lbs or kg or smth.

[royal wagon]

use your brain

[hoary kettle]

It’s called a joke. It requires usage of the brain to make.

[pure crown]

A poor attempt at one

[limpid swan]

By only a little bit tbh. a device that can split apart vs a one trick pony lol

[hoary kettle]

That’s your opinion. (Also mine)

[pure crown]

😭

[royal wagon]

my magtube weighs about 320g, thats not a little bit

[pure crown]

Exactly

[limpid swan]

I'm reading that the protube magtube is 1.75 lbs vs the acclaimed tomahawk 1.96 lbs

[royal wagon]

the chrome version sure

[pure crown]

He has his own custom magtube

[royal wagon]

the last version i weighed was the same standard magtube parts in CF

i havent weighed my super customized version

[pure crown]

Plus the fully carbon version is only 600 grams

[royal wagon]

i dont want to take it apart

its a bit of an akward shape to fit on my precision scale

[pure crown]

Yeah that would be a pain

[pure crown]

Plus the magtube can have a sling which helps a lot with weight

[royal wagon]

eh

[limpid swan]

I've already expressed my hate for the sling straps

[royal wagon]

not really weight, but convenience. it can hold your controllers while you grab your water bottle between raids or whatever

[pure crown]

Yeah

[royal wagon]

its fantastic and i ahte playing non shooting games without it

[pure crown]

Why's that ?

[turbid comet]

When does the raidr stock ship, I’ve ordered it late feb

[pure crown]

Then you are late you have to wait

[turbid comet]

Wdym I’m late

[pure crown]

I mean what i said. Most people pre ordered December/Start of January

First come first serve policy

[turbid comet]

Can I still get it?

[limpid swan]

I like the magnet designs. I think making the stock basically apart of the controller makes any action feel faster and the less stuff hanging from me the better. Jokingly, I could see my little girl would choke me out with it while I play. 😂

[pure crown]

You will definetly get it just later then others who pre ordered before you

[pure crown]

To each their own. Im just stating that the chance for a sling on the gunstock definetly helps with easy use ect

I think that's a fair statement

Plus the ability to let go of the controllers and just rest your hands at any given moment is also a pro in my opinion

[limpid swan]

Definitely fair. If anything, I had an idea to make my own 3d printed gunstock very similar to the raidr but I'm too busy and a shade of lazy to learn how to model lol

[pure crown]

I get that lol

[limpid swan]

I will agree the fact you can put both controllers on the stock with a sling is helpful. However, I find the raidr magnet strong enough to hold the entire thing with one hand without ever moving my main hand or setting it down for a second to do something like take a drink isn't the most time consuming thing either.

[pure crown]

For sure

[wary rock]

@wild ruin are you here?

[wild ruin]

?

[wary rock]

does this support pending mean something?

I sent a message on my order idk if that is what it is

[wild ruin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ProTubeVR/comments/13bhvvs/welcome_read_this_first_faq_2023_edition/

Explains order statuses

Check spam folder for response

[wary rock]

okay found it but slight issue its in french lol

[glad scroll]

I can help you with that 😉

[wary rock]

would this be it?

@wild ruin i figured it out and got it done, thank you

[wild ruin]

No problem

[shy mulch]

I just received my Raidr gunstock, and I have to say my the initial impression is not very good. I’m not here to bash anyone or sway anyone’s decision on purchasing it, but want to leave my thoughts in case anyone is curious about the stock. The wobble from cups is almost impossible to fix. It would have to be to the point where you almost over tighten the screw and probably break something. The controller hardly stays in the cup with the strap holding it. Any kind of movement with your hands shifts the controller around so you’re having to constantly readjust it. Like others have said about the buttstock, it’s heavy and not very well balanced. Overall not a very well thought out design

[vital hinge]

Question for protube/magtube users. What is your standard operating procedure? I assume front hand comes off for looting. Do you keep the back hand attached to stalk when using pistols? If I remove the back hand I’m worried re-finding the stalk will be slow. If I keep the back hand on I’m worried about hitting the headset with the butt when ADS with pistol. What about ‘nades?

[royal wagon]

both come off for looting

if you size your sling so that your stock rests at your hip where your hands are when you have them at a resting position, you can snap in really fast

[vital hinge]

Cool thx. Any technique for getting second hand off? First one is easy as can torque with other hand. I’m clumsy at getting second hand magnet detached.

[wild ruin]

Both same time

Is how I do it

[vital hinge]

Hmm.. will have to practice. I’m going to end up sacking myself with the stalk… 🙂

[wild ruin]

I didn't say I did it from an ads position

[vital hinge]

Fair 🙂

[royal wagon]

its a rotation outward, push your palms in. the lever design of the cup holder should make it pop right off

but stay in place all other times, thats the magtube magic

[wild ruin]

And one of our patents

[royal wagon]

yep

[brittle thicket]

Get the modus, you won’t regret it

[trim jungle]

any recommendations for first gun stock? im thinking somewhere around £50 but can be more

[native totem]

the people that handle the orders are so lazy

[native totem]

Don’t buy the official ghost of tabor one

[trim jungle]

how come

[native totem]

Ordered it like 4-5 months ago and still hasn’t even emailed me that it’s been shipped

[trim jungle]

rough lol

[native totem]

I’ve asked several times about it and they just say they dunno so useless

[upper kraken]

Same here

[trim jungle]

anyone know about magtube and whether its a good first gun stock purchase?

[pure crown]

They brought from the ghost of tabor site and are mad that their orders aren’t being handled fast

Buy from Mamut when they release it for sale again

If you don’t want to wait get a magtube

Also 7thvr

[topaz summit]

Oh shit I didn't know some of that I got the full kit

[fringe tundra]

Kind of thinking when i get the raider with the buttstock I might run it pointing downwards than upwards like in the pictures.

[spare stump]

Ordered a fully carbon magtube the other day 😄

[trim jungle]

would u recommend for me to buy

[spare stump]

Got it on sale, But if price isnt a problem id 100% recommend

[wicked narwhal]

got the raidr today 🙃

[trim jungle]

how much did u get it for

[leaden sundial]

I bought my stock from the tabor website over a week ago and still have zero idea on a delivery date

I have zero emails from them about the stock

[wary rock]

@wild ruin i asked you earlier about the support that I asked about, so I have finished with the support a while ago is there something i need to do to let you guys know I don't need support anymore, becuase it stills says support pending on my order or will it automatically do it?

[wicked narwhal]

yeah they don't email you an invoice

[wild ruin]

closed for the day in france

[leaden sundial]

Okay how long does it normally take for delivery in the U.S do you know

[wicked narwhal]

they do express shipping so it took 2 buisness days to get delivered

[leaden sundial]

It’s been well over a week now

[wicked narwhal]

get ready to wait for a month

[leaden sundial]

lol awesome

Thank you for the information

[wicked narwhal]

very cool

imagine designing something so shit that you claim its only glued on when there is no actual glue

[spare stump]

140 pounds

[violet depot]

Lol iv been waiting 3 months now for the raidr stock. In usa

[waxen fiber]

yall what site is good for buying stocks

[gusty spear]

they dont send confirmations or receipts. when i emailed them thats all they said. i followed up about if ill get a tracking number when it ships... been a week and nothing back.

[dry oxide]

I just got an email today about my stocks shipping, I heard from this server that they're being shipped out depending on who ordered first so

But before that I didn't get a single email either

[dry oxide]

Idk if that's true though

[dawn elk]

GoT's not doing any emails other than the shipping email from what I've heard

I've ordered from Mamut and did get order + shipping email

[low schooner]

@fossil fossil

where u at jeff by

[buoyant silo]

I'm having a real hard time getting my Pro tube calibrated, it's hard enough without adding a sight to the rifle but dam near impossible when I add the sight, I don't understand why the devs didn't just let you be able to calibrate with the weapon + sight of your choice, I know others have done it but I'm afraid I can't 🤦‍♂️ 😭 but I'll keep trying

[wild ruin]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PricklyTubularBarracudaPicoMause-vxFUP585vkUbiZyi

check pins for how to use calibration in game

[sharp roost]

My Raidr came in today and although I haven't used it yet I did notice the wobble of the controller mounts, also the butt stock attachment is TIGHT to get on so it scratched up the finish of the included longer rod, I had it loosened up as well... I'm just worried with all the tightening you have to do to get things situated and with the screws being on the smaller side I'm worried of stripping the threads at some point.

Not a major deal just noting this.

I won't be able to get much game time in with it during the week due to work but this weekend I'll report back.

First impressions are kind of meh though.

[lime dew]

Raidr getting shipped?

[rugged berry]

It's been getting shipped but idk if they paused it or something because of some issues that were found in production or something

[hollow zinc]

My product fits the bill, https://brandodrumvr.etsy.com

[hollow zinc]

Yes, they stopped sales and I think stopped shipping them as well...

[turbid comet]

Can I get a refund for the raidr gun stock

[hollow zinc]

Lots of folks struggle with traditional gunstocks in this game, just too many movements required to get it to work and then different guns align different ways once you add attachments. There are more adaptable solutions https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=HNZodDmr_-dQTdfD

[hollow zinc]

well...that's unfortunate

[noble plover]

is the raider good

i need to know

[noble plover]

is it bad??

[turbid comet]

I don’t know, I ordered it and i never received an email or anything for over a month now

[hollow zinc]

just look up in the chat, you don't have to go far

like, not even 2 pages

[noble plover]

can anyone recamend i good gunstock

[hollow zinc]

yes, https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=HNZodDmr_-dQTdfD

https://brandodrumvr.etsy.com

read a few reviews.

[noble plover]

how much

[hollow zinc]

in the 2nd clink. It's modular, lots of options

base model that folks dig for GOT is 55 bucks before discounts

[turbid comet]

Checking it out rn

[noble plover]

how do i get discount

[turbid comet]

How do you make it? It’s hella cheap

[hollow zinc]

3d printed with the best printers in the biz

[noble plover]

do you make one that has the front slot

[turbid comet]

Is it still plastic?

[hollow zinc]

https://brandodrumvr.etsy.com?coupon=LOOT20

yeah it's plastic, but insanely strong

your headset is plastic

[turbid comet]

Alr man, I’ll give it a shot

I gotta wait for the refund for the raidr stock though

[hollow zinc]

Yup!

there's a "Kit plus" and if improved even since just a month ago. But you can use the forearm brace or attach the front end grip

[topaz summit]

Wait the kit plus exists or is it just the full kit?

[hollow zinc]

Kit plus is an option under the classic or XL size

that's a full kit in purple and white

if you're not sure what size and just want all the parts: Full Kit. If you know which size and just want all the attachments at a slightly better price, Kit Plus.

And like I said I'm always upgrading. New buyers get detachable swappable and reversible forearm brace "noodle"

...patent pending lol

20% off, pass it around https://brandodrumvr.etsy.com?coupon=LOOT20

[wicked narwhal]

ya know I just got burned by the radir stock being kinda shit to the point where they say its supposed to break but this looks really cool and I'm actually seriously considering buying it

[hollow zinc]

awesome

if you get it and you don't like it I'll refund ya

[wicked narwhal]

I'm sold

[rugged berry]

I'd assume being like 6'3 I should probably get the XL kit?

[hollow zinc]

haha yes

hundo

I will say - and I don't point this out so much in my videos which I should - GOT favors the XL

[dawn elk]

Out of every flaw with the Raidr, that's what bothers you? Lmao

[hollow zinc]

so if you're somewhat on the fence, err on the side of XL

also, if you want to see this product in action live, Skuzzy is playing right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5WHqz6K-sE

[wicked narwhal]

just bought it 👍

[hollow zinc]

awesome!

[dawn elk]

Ultistock looks quite neat, but so much bulkier than the Raidr 😅

[hollow zinc]

irony, because it weighs 170 grams (the XL) total and the RaidR weight over 200 grams PER HAND

and that's without the butt stock

[dawn elk]

That's it being all printed though I assume

[hollow zinc]

currently yes

[dawn elk]

Raidr has some chunky metal joints and magnets

[hollow zinc]

clearly plays well into the durability of the product

my product is plastic, so is your headset

I've honed the durability of this endlessly. And I pack replacement parts

[dawn elk]

Nah it's more a rubbery material for me
Definitely get the point though

[hollow zinc]

but hardily any of these are getting broken at this point

[alpine pawn]

heres my gunstock

[hollow zinc]

that ish is OG

[dawn elk]

Bro this fucking automod is giving me headaches

[hollow zinc]

that dude merc'd a ton of orcs

[dawn elk]

Not saying your stock being plastic is bad at all

[hollow zinc]

oh no worries

[dawn elk]

Weight

[hollow zinc]

honestly 3d printing when done correctly has massive benefits over injection molding

[dawn elk]

WHY IS ED Ge Blocked by automod

[wicked narwhal]

dont forget this:

[dawn elk]

It being plastic gives your stock the Ed ge with weight

[hollow zinc]

sheesh man over harsh automod

[dawn elk]

If they didn't even add that part themselves, and the stock works perfectly without, why get worked up over it lmao

[wicked narwhal]

ppl gettin too frisky about being gooners

[dawn elk]

Took me four tries to get the point across lol

[hollow zinc]

lmao

[wicked narwhal]

I'm not mad about that, I'm mad about being told I can get a refund and then getting 180'd on and being told no

[dawn elk]

Who said so?

[wicked narwhal]

if you email scott he protects the messages with nda so I can't say

[dawn elk]

Unless GoT is doing a different refund policy that I'm not aware of, which would be Awful yeah

[hollow zinc]

I gotta run but hit me up with q's on DM or whatever

[dawn elk]

One can't just attach an NDA under emails and assume it works lol
Unless you signed / previously agreed ofcourse

[dawn elk]

The Raidr being sold by 2 parties, one doing an impressively worse job, is most definitely not helping the situation

[dawn elk]

Not how that works but sure

[wicked narwhal]

ik

data in email is inherently non-confidential but I ain't havin scott show up to my door like he did something clever

[modest hollow]

Not really

[dawn elk]

My recent automod triggers have been entirely useless lmao

It's going off on the most random shit

[modest hollow]

We're fine tuning some of the stuff but have you spent ANY time in gen chat?

[dawn elk]

Plenty, probably not at the right times though

[modest hollow]

I've got logs being sent to a channel to fine tune some of the dumb stuff like circumvent

[dawn elk]

Oh god lmaoo

I want to say something but it'll just trigger

[modest hollow]

Better to be overly harsh then under harsh and lose the entire discord because of children being edgelords

[rugged berry]

Another question, is this a bit of an outdated photo? I saw you have some actual half cup parts for the front grip and wondered if those are included in the kit plus

Like the picture above it

I'd probably use the forearm brace but love to have options

[dawn elk]

it's an automated signature that they could care less about btw
But you do you, you're obviously free to not share that stuff
Really curious though if/why cws is denying Raidr refunds

When I inquired about the loose cups potential fix / instead refunding, they let me know it would be no issue.
Even assured me that by inquiring about it, from a legal standpoint I've technically started the process and could pass that 2 week window by some time and it wouldnt be a big deal.
That gave me confidence to await what the fix will be, before refunding for nothing

[hollow zinc]

yeah kit plus gets the half up, the Z bars plus the forearm brace

[dawn elk]

If I had the cash to just throw at stocks for the sake of trying them out, I'd definitely get that ultistock
Looks really interesting

[hollow zinc]

the white and purple one is a 'full kit' - the blue and black was a kit plus

[hollow zinc]

I hear ya

but it's risk free. I'll pay for return shipping and refund if there's an issue

and depending on the situation I might just refund without a return

I'm glad that I've only ever had to do that 3 times and one time I'm pretty sure the guy was special needs and just couldn't follow instructions

bless his heart

[dawn elk]

Haha that's kinda crazy

[rugged berry]

I find that pretty wild because I assume you make them to order too

At least for the more specialized parts

[hollow zinc]

yup

but I mean, I feel that's how any of these companies should operate

[dawn elk]

Oh I don't doubt the stock at all
I'm sure it'd be great

It's more that I can't really afford to have multiple stocks just laying about, and my choice went to raidr

[hollow zinc]

right on, I get ya

[dawn elk]

Chose it for the small profile, split functionality, and being baced by my main game helped a good bit
It does great in all those departments, really nice to use stock
Just those damn cups being flawed

[rugged berry]

Raidr I think is just too much

Like $120 after everything considered, and don't think what you get resembles that pricepoint

[dawn elk]

It's quite expensive for what you get yeah
When I first took it out the box, it looked so underwhelmingly small lol

Had they not casted the buttstock, it would've been much cheaper and lighter I think
Cause that's a chonky addon

[rugged berry]

One huge draw to the ultistock in particular for me is just how dynamic you can be with your gun choice in a matter of seconds, no stock adjustment whatsoever. Like I'm a huge fan of canted grips, whenever I can use them, and there's not many basically full size stocks that let you tilt your front hand and also shift the whole grip a bit in the opposite direction

[topaz summit]

It's $120 now not $100?

[rugged berry]

After shipping or taxes or whatever

[topaz summit]

Ohh I don't got to pay sales tax 🙂 so

[rugged berry]

I don't exactly remember what they called it but I'm in the US and checking the price from the GOT website I recall it being nearly $20 extra

[topaz summit]

I'm in the US as well my state just don't got sales tax and that saves me so much money

[hollow zinc]

international shipping is an issue wherever

[dawn elk]

All in I paid around 120 euros i think

[topaz summit]

Your from the USA right?

[hollow zinc]

yup