🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[royal wagon]

but you will want to do that after finding out how far your front controller should be

that part is a little tricky

i would say get an m4 with a foregrip and an M1A SASS with a foregrip

with the tube 1 down like my picture shows, the m4 with foregrip should be in an optimal sight picture when looking down sights

with both hands

wih the tube fully straight the M1A SASS should be

with the tube up 1 the AWM should be

[vernal arch]

Dont have an m1a sass unfortunately

So now i need to adjust my cups with like RC1 and FC1 or RC2 and FC2?

[royal wagon]

RC1 and FC1 determine position

RC2 should have already been set and wont ever be changed again

[vernal arch]

Right okay

[royal wagon]

FC2 will be continuously changed a small amount to optimize your sight window

[vernal arch]

And FC1 will be changed mid game as well right?

Sorry i mean another one

J3

Like the angle of the front tube i mean

[royal wagon]

FC1 no

[vernal arch]

Oh okay

[royal wagon]

j3 yes

[vernal arch]

Alright so i need to go in game to set the front controller distance?

[royal wagon]

yes

[vernal arch]

Alright it confused me a bit because you said RC1 should never be touched again but here you said they do

[royal wagon]

read my message again, that is not what i said

[vernal arch]

this is pretty good i think right?

[royal wagon]

it depends

[vernal arch]

So what now?

And my weapon still points to the right a bit

[tacit jolt]

been looking for a decent gunstock, ya'll got any suggestions

[royal wagon]

rotate your cups

[earnest magnet]

@frigid breach sent you a Dm about your knuckle strap mod

[vernal arch]

It doesnt seem to do much

this is without gripping

this is with gripping

so it goes a bit down and to the right

[royal wagon]

thats different

while holding with both controllers move the front cup up and down

that shouldnt change

going one handed to two handed is expected to have horizontal and possibly vertical changes

[vernal arch]

so that's normal? or are my cups wrong?

[royal wagon]

thats normal

mine does that

it happens because of the rotation angle set for that gun relative to your controller with one hand

two hands on a gun always changes the orientation to be a straight line between controllers

[vernal arch]

It makes it really awkward to aim because you have to hold you gunstock a bit to the left to aim forward in game

But so everyone has that right?

[royal wagon]

no

hold your gunstock natural, if it doesnt point straight you need to rotate your controllers

holding means with two hands holding the gun

[vernal arch]

Alright what’s next?

[royal wagon]

how does it feel?

[vernal arch]

Decent

[royal wagon]

so theres 3 adjustments that you should do

the first adjustment is getting the stock to your body, thats the back half

the second adjustment is to get the front cup adjusted so you can switch between weapons

the third adjustment would be to optimize the game by using the gunstock calibration

check the pinned message for a walk through including video

i dont like the default offsets, the guns are really far forwards

[vernal arch]

Okay so what do you mean withe the first one?

[royal wagon]

you did that part already

[vernal arch]

Oh gotcha

[royal wagon]

thats getting the shape of it set and the length of pull so its ergonomic for your body

[vernal arch]

Right okay

So now i should basically just check a few different weapons to see if my front controller can grip them all?

[royal wagon]

by moving the front tube up and down yes

and also adjusting the angle of the front cup

[vernal arch]

Okay so i guess keep them both not fully screwed in at all times?

[royal wagon]

mess with the length, probably on the closer side to the middle joint

j3 and fc2 should not be fully tightened, you will adjust those frequently

thats the point of the protube

[vernal arch]

Okay

[vernal arch]

By this you mean the fc1?

[royal wagon]

yes, loosen FC1 and adjust the mount forwards and backwards to change the length

you should find one spot that accomodates everything

once i found that spot i tightened FC1 down and never moved it

[vernal arch]

Okay i think it’s in a good spot now

With some weapons like the galil i just can’t reach it because the hand is a bit too low then but i then need to adjust the t4 right?

J3 sorry

[royal wagon]

yes, adjust the front tube, make sure j3 is loose

once you have j3 set to the right tightness you wont have to touch it

you lower the front tube up and down to accomodate height differences, you dont need to touch j3 again

i never use the galil so im not readily familiar with its particular shape

[vernal arch]

alr thanks for your help (:

all i need to do now is calibration right?

[royal wagon]

yep, check the pin, watch the video

[vernal arch]

will do ty

[wheat horizon]

Yes

[left hearth]

what would be a good gun stock for my first time trying one?

[royal wagon]

magtube

[left hearth]

yeah that seems like the general consensus

[manic swan]

Buy once cry once. Enjoy for years to come

[left hearth]

the price on it gonna make me cry away goes my money

[steep orbit]

MVP @royal wagon for always helping the community with help with their gunstocks 🫡

[terse venture]

Does anyone else experience their right hand not being able to reach out as far as your left hand when physical stock is on? It almost seems like the game thinks I’m still holding a gun (right handed)

[tight flame]

this is probably a very dumb/weird question but is a gunstock or the virtual gunstock more prefered? ive done 1 raid of tabor so yall know i know nothing lmao, im using the ultibrace with wrist brace :)

[royal wagon]

no

[cursive falcon]

There is nothing such as dumb questions, only dumb answers, like this: Virtual gunstock is trying to lock your front grip in a position to help those without gunstock to keep a steady aim, while a gunstock locks your right grip in line with your left grip on the two-handed weapon to increase realism and keep a non-vobling steady aim. I made one DIY to experiment with a physical gunstock to test this out, and it works.

[royal wagon]

here i dont think you will find any opinions that a virtual gunstock is preferred

[tight flame]

next question that im sure is common, and it might just be me cuz im new to vr but i havent had similar issues in games like blade and sorcery, but the game itself seems very blurry? and is only worse when trying to ads, which i also cant seem to line up properly.. albeit i really havent played more than about 45 minutes but its fairly frusturating and im happy to take quite literally any tips

if this is the wrong channel for it lemme know as well

[cursive falcon]

Guess that depends on the headset you are using, or if you use cable or not I guess. I get some blurry "display stream reconnect" moments on air-link with quest 2, and that is annoying, but with cable it works fine.

[tight flame]

Quest 2 with a cable

[cursive falcon]

That should be good with the original cable I guess. It's fiber-cable and supports up to 5Gb/s bitrate. Do you have the PC on a network-cable to the same router?

[royal wagon]

yeah this channel is about using gunstocks in tabor

#❓・questions is a more appropriate place

[cursive falcon]

soon done with this question, then we move back to gunstocks. 🙂

[tight flame]

Im fine moving or going to dm's, i dont wanna mistep as a brand new member ya know, anyway im enjoying the ultibrace but does anyone have tips for using pistols with a stock? Its either awkward to hold or ill bump controllers or the brace when trying to reload

[cursive falcon]

I leave that question to anyone else who actually have a gunstock they might answer this question haha 😄 Im looking for advice for a gunstock my self. 🙂

[tight flame]

I sprung for the ultibrace after watxhing a lot of youtube but i know at least one of the people i frequent uses just the virtual one, hence my first question

[cursive falcon]

Virtual Gunstock might be usefull when getting used to it I guess, however it works, but for the realism, I know for sure that virtual realism like a physical gunstock works as you should hold the weapon in itself. But what I did notice with the DIY experiment, is handling actions that need disconnection from the rifle may take time getting used to, so by then we are back to the questions that only gunstock experienced players can answer. Like magnets to split the stock in two, and other solutions.

[tight flame]

well like i said, mine is a wrist brace , so your non dominant wrist acts at the front contact, but leaves you 100% free to remove your left hand at any point, since its not attached

[cursive falcon]

Thats a good solution! It also look simple enough to learn fast into the musclememory what to do to perform different actions! ^^

[tight flame]

you can thank skuzzy on youtube

https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=b8ewvhQ8JvbBxQqq

he uses it there

[terse venture]

I 3d printed a lot of stocks and I ended up loving this design that uses magnets

Sorry for the mess

[cursive falcon]

magnet in the middle. How is it to get used to attach them on the fly? 3D printing is really a thing these days haha.

[frigid breach]

Lol this design have been appearing a lot recently

I made one a week or 2 back and since then I keep seeing it here

I modded mine to have knuckle straps too

[terse venture]

Its great! I honestly don’t think about it, as soon as a grip a gun, the magnets are usually close enough to lock into place. I only slightly modify the design to add the controller straps, adjust it to my tube size and make 2 areas a little bit more sturdy where it kept breaking

I like your straps adjustment more tbh haha

Do you mind sharing the files?

[frigid breach]

It's just a piece of plastic I cut to size and screwed in between the 2 piece. Like a spacer

I'm lazy

[terse venture]

Are you using steel pipes? i recently switched to pvc so its not a workout every time I start playing tabor haha

Thats pretty smart

I added a slot where those metal things fit that you get with those straps, and then just clamp it together

[frigid breach]

15mm aluminum tubing, 1mm thickness

[terse venture]

Did your controller cups break already?

[frigid breach]

Yeah it's too weak

[terse venture]

Oh yeah, my stupid add used stainless steel the first time

[frigid breach]

I reinforced it with epoxy putty as I didn't want to reprint 🤣

[terse venture]

Hahaha great minds think alike😂

I did the same thing, how did you attach the magnets?

[frigid breach]

Epoxy

[dense flame]

My broke ass Couldn't afford a gunstock...
Unethical life tip you can use the clothes hangers that have clips as a makeshift SMG stock though 👍

[terse venture]

I was hoping you found a better way haha

[frigid breach]

I didn't use those donut magnets as they're more ex. Went the cheap route, got a round solid piece and just epoxy it in

[terse venture]

I did buy those, and ended up getting 10 magnets with all 10 having the countersunk on the same side. 🙃

[frigid breach]

That's the other thing. The paired ones are more expensive

Anyway, the stock works like a charm in contractors (as expected given the fantastic stock calibration) and TAVR

Kinda clunky in Sniper Elite

[terse venture]

So still ended up epoxying one of them. The product picture was misleading, they knew what they were doing haha

Until you find a mac10 it works great

Highly recommended for anyone with a 3d printer and some time

[frigid breach]

Anyway I made that to test how I'll like a stock.

Ended up ordering the Ultistock from BrandonDrumVR. It's probably more flexible and works better

[frigid breach]

Yeah, some limitations, but it's a cheap build and works well. Highly recommended

Even if you get someone to help print, it's not expensive given the small amount of parts

And you can use a wooden dowel instead of aluminum or CF tubing

[terse venture]

I would love to hear your thoughts when you get that one in, he unfortunately stopped selling it on etsy for a while

[frigid breach]

He's on holiday now, should be back soon.

[terse venture]

The tabor gunstock design is basically the same design, that on top of my list for now but I would be interested to hear how this one turns out for you

Especially in tabor

[frigid breach]

The DIY one doesn't have the pitch and tilt adjustments and I think that's a pretty significant difference in making it more well rounded

[pale mulch]

Does anyone have like a fire recommendation for a first time gun stock user, I’ve got no budget. Just want what’s best

[royal wagon]

magtube

first time gunstock user just means you should get something that works properly

[pale mulch]

Took your advice and ran with it @royal wagon

[royal wagon]

that is not one that i recommend

[pale mulch]

Perfect lol

[lethal sinew]

[inland plover]

Still using this as my main gun stock. "DIY Poor Mans Gun Stock" upgraded to fit my needs.

[vagrant sparrow]

i want my raidr 😭

[nocturne lotus]

Working on it 😅

[frigid breach]

Lol, literally same same but different

[ashen hull]

@inland plover What is your country of origin?

[inland plover]

Why?

[ashen hull]

I want to send you a free stock

If UK

[fair sable]

Lucky

[ashen hull]

If not, I won't be unfortunately

I wanted to do a giveaway so it's only fair

[inland plover]

You are so nice! But I am in US

[ashen hull]

Damn, rip

[inland plover]

Ikr

sucks, but you saw my Gunstock?

[fair sable]

A gun stock for ghost of tabor

[inland plover]

Its good for now.

[ashen hull]

Does look good tbh!

[inland plover]

ty

[fair sable]

I dont have one cause there to expensive

Lol

[ashen hull]

@fair sableyou got a stock

[fair sable]

No

I got nothing

[ashen hull]

UK?

[fair sable]

Yes

[ashen hull]

VR Headset?

[fair sable]

Yea

[ashen hull]

I mean

Which

[fair sable]

Oculus quest 2

[ashen hull]

Okay

Is Quest 2 bottom of the controller by the grip the same as quest 3?

[fair sable]

Idk

I think so

[ashen hull]

If you find out for sure

It's your lucky day if it's the case they're the same

[fair sable]

Wdym.

[ashen hull]

Like essentially, are Quest 2 controllers compatible with quest 3 gun stocks etc

This is what I'd print: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6289919

[fair sable]

Are they the same

@ashen hull ye i think they're the same

[ashen hull]

It's only the bottom that matters

Looks fine to me

[fair sable]

Would u really send it out to me?

[ashen hull]

Of course

I wanted to do a giveaway, I said I would and I suppose you won lol

[fair sable]

Thats really kind of you thanks

[ashen hull]

No dramas, I am ordering more resin tomorrow as that's when I get paid

[fair sable]

I need one to cause of my shaky hands

[ashen hull]

You will need to buy and install your own magnets however but even without them you can use the shoulder side of the stock and it is lightyears better!

[fair sable]

Thats fine

How do i fit them

[ashen hull]

I'll explain it all and send you the amazon link once I've printed it all etc etc

I'll pay for shipping also 🫡

[fair sable]

Ok how much do i need to pay you

?

[ashen hull]

£0

[fair sable]

Really?

[ashen hull]

Yes. It's free lol

[fair sable]

Thank you man this made my day😁

[ashen hull]

You just buy your own magnets on amazon 🤷‍♂️ but you don't even need to do that

[fair sable]

How?

Dont i need magnets?

[ashen hull]

Red line is where the magnets slot in, without them you can just use the bit that braces against your shoulder

Works great without the front bit so it can be either entirely free or whatever magnets cost you

Either way I'll send it out 🫡

[fair sable]

When can u send it out?

[ashen hull]

I'll order more resin tomorrow

[fair sable]

Ok thanks

[ashen hull]

Probably arrive by Saturday or Sunday, I'll print and post Monday

[fair sable]

Just dm me when u can send it

[ashen hull]

It'll be at yours by like Tuesday probs

[fair sable]

R u in uk aswell

[ashen hull]

Sure 🫡

Yeah, south west

[fair sable]

Nice

London?

[ashen hull]

More like Devon

[fair sable]

Ah im from Edinburgh

[ashen hull]

Ahh wicked, I'll send it first class then in that case

[fair sable]

Still cant believe ur doing this thank you agian

[ashen hull]

I'll keep you posted 🫡

Ahh it's okay, they cost £10~ ISH for everything to make one full stock including costs of electricity, gloves, alcohol everything involved in the whole process. Really it's fine bro

Hype to change your game up though!

[fair sable]

Ok thanks dm me when ur ready i appreciate you so much im very grateful

[ashen hull]

Of course bro

[tight token]

i bought a evil gaming stock for the quest 3 and its good but the tracking gets lost at some points anyone have any suggestions

[fair sable]

@ashen hull i need to go bye thank you

[ashen hull]

Are all the points in the controller where internal sensors are located exposed to the quest 3?

[ashen hull]

Take care!!

[tight token]

it is but the rail is on top of the controllers

[ashen hull]

Ahh I see

Show a pic?

[ashen hull]

Hmm, I'm not sure why it could stop tracking. Is your room bright enough when playing?

[tight token]

yes its pretty bright

while not using the stock i dont lose tracking

[ashen hull]

Hmm, I'm not sure then buddy tbh. Maybe it's just how you're holding it

[tight token]

alr might need to try different things then

it loses the tracking for like couple seconds every now and then

[ashen hull]

Yeah, seems like it should be okay but you never really know

[tight token]

if i hold my left hand sideways with a grip on the side of a gun then i dont have any problems

[ashen hull]

Tell you what, open your menu when you can see the controller battery percentage on main menu, move your controllers behind youd head. You'll see the icon changes. Put the controllers in the stock and see what you do that makes them lose tracking.

[tight token]

but with m16 or a rifle i get problems

[icy kayak]

is there any budget stocks?

[ashen hull]

Try what I said, it might just be the stock being the issue

[tight token]

the right controller is fine that doesnt lose tracking its the left one im having trouble with

yeah ill try that

[ashen hull]

Probably best to check Etsy, amazon or something or print it yourself if you have a printer

[ashen hull]

Yeah it's likely the stock then blocking it

[tight token]

got mine on etsy for 110€

yeah

im gonna try to edit that one abit

or do some grip position editing

i'll see what i can do

might ask my friend to redsign that one

even if it would be like in front of the controller it might fix it

[glad scroll]

The problem is obvious, your stock blocks a good amount of IR lights that are on the controller and needed for tracking

[tight token]

so just gotta redesign the left controller mount

to have bit more access to the ir lights

[glad scroll]

The problem comes mostly from the top stock part that floats above your controllers, if you aim down sights I wouldn't be surprised it blocks a lot of of these ir leds

[tight token]

yeah if it was moved to the front of the controller and a bit to the right it would be fine

[glad scroll]

But if you turn the mount maybe you can have the controllers a bit to the side so it doesn't get hidden

[tight token]

yeah

[pastel crow]

The Q3 controllers also have an IR led in the bottom of the handle.

[tight token]

yeah but thats like one or 2

[glad scroll]

Of course, but that's not enough for good tracking

[pastel crow]

It complements the top ones. Covering it is not the best idea.

[glad scroll]

I know, why would you cover it 😁

[tight token]

not my design so did not think about it xD

[glad scroll]

Because the bottom one is so far from the rest, it's an important one to get precise tracking, but it's not covered here so nothing to do

[tight token]

just gotta do without the left controller part for now until i get a new mount

or then i will fix this one myself dunno how yet tho

contacted the seller and he told me he'll modify it and send a new one

[fair sable]

@ashen hull dm me

[ashen hull]

oKAY

[hasty beacon]

Anyone got any suggestions for a gunstock

[tight token]

what vr headset are you running

@hasty beacon

[hasty beacon]

Quest 2

[tight token]

evil gaming has a good one for quest 2 they are fixing the quest 3 one atm

they are on etsy

[hasty beacon]

you got a link?

[tight token]

sec

ill pm it

[ashen hull]

@hasty beacon

Stock: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6289919
Find a local printer: https://www.makexyz.com/

It says quest 3 but It'll work on quest 2 so I'm told

[hasty beacon]

I cant see the price

[ashen hull]

You use the website to find someone with a 3D Printer local to you I believe

I'm currently in the process of seeing if we can offer our services for non profit, print price only printing to users here. @halcyon iris approached me to print him some things and he seemed happy enough so it seems to format does work. Just need mods to take a look!

[dawn shale]

Any update on the tabor raidr

[bleak aspen]

Pvc pipes

[ashen hull]

ngl, that's a shout

[zinc meteor]

Dm'd you dude!

[ashen hull]

Sure bro

I'll check it out

[nocturne lotus]

Soon™️

[violet depot]

Supposedly shipping out end of Q1. So around end of March they should start beginning shipping

Definitely excited for it👀 although I'm not as bad at free-handing controllers then I'd thought I'd be after using only a gunstock for several years

[pure crown]

What’s a good gun stock for under 100$

[dry merlin]

we aim for earlier than end of Q1. but we're not jinxing anything either

[old steppe]

can u send me it please I'm looking for a gun stock

[royal wagon]

https://www.protubevr.com/en/product/169-magtube-gunstock.html

[wise quest]

Thats really cool

[dull tinsel]

i played with it yesterday for 2 h..... i must say i love it 🙂

get a 3D printer guys, it cost me like 5 Euros in total

and if anything breaks, i reprint for like 50 cents

[wise quest]

I've always wanted a 3d printer it looks like the one you've got made theres easy to take apart to move the hands separately for looting and then the magnet makes it easy to reattach

[dull tinsel]

i sold my old 3d Printer for 50Euros

[wise quest]

Dang thats cheap

Is the material you use easy to break or does it actually have stability

[dull tinsel]

i play now for over 50 h with self printed Gunstocks, i never broke anything midgame

[junior ridge]

To be fair even the top end stocks like the ProtubeVR magtube use 3d printed parts (controller cups)

[dull tinsel]

i used PETg and ABS , either is fine for me

i used 30x4 mm Magnets, to be honest. they can be stronger , BUT once u get used to it they kinda stable.
But i am a GYMBRO so i prefer magnet with are much stronger. Mine are like 12 KG i would prefer 20 tbh BUUUUUUT right controller is fine, left feels heavy cause of the leverpoint. but its fine

gonna try next 30x4mm for left hand and 30x7mm right hand

also im single atm , so my Right hand is way overtrained xD

[wise quest]

XD

[violet depot]

Oh one question..Will we get a confirmation email or something when it ships? I had never recieved an email confirming my purchase

[simple timber]

what gunstock should i buy for my quest 3

[nocturne lotus]

Don't really know since we don't manage GoT Shop, but mamutvr.com. Would make sense though.

[loud portal]

Would you be able to take orders?

[violet depot]

Ahh okay. Thanks for reply!

[dull tinsel]

no sry :/

[abstract lion]

Just bought this stock, excited to use it when it comes in. Anyone ever use it before?

[dull tinsel]

ppl say it sucks, espacially in GOT cause u will have huge problems reloading. controllers are ways to high

[shy mulch]

I don’t have a printer…would you be willing to print, assemble and ship? If so, how much?

[dull tinsel]

no sry, but there are company which does excatly that! u send them the stl files and they print/ ship

[simple timber]

guys what gunstock should i get for my quest 3

[noble smelt]

Anyone who says it sucks hasn't tried it. It works very well for tabor.

[quick heart]

i made a stock out of pvc pipes

[cursive falcon]

I made a stock out of wood and duct-tape, just to test how a gunstock would behave in game. I managed to shoot those two fenixes guarding the lighthouse from the Docks with the Dragunov, 370ish meter shot. Yes, gunstock is a must for ranged shots at least.

but since the stock is just a test, another factor that may be of importance, is the weight of the gunstock. Wood is far to heavy, so I guess carbon is a way to go for 3D printing parts?

[hollow zinc]

https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=xVE3U6lsM3cnP4JA

My store re opens this weekend

[urban pewter]

any news on the tabor gun stock?

i assume it'll be around march

[vernal arch]

does anyone have any tips for controlling recoil with a stock? i can't just pull down the front cause the back will go down a bit too

[royal wagon]

you can kinda pull down with both but i honestly think you are using the wrong form if you are doing that

[modest tide]

interesting question, I dont notice this issue

[royal wagon]

if your goal is quick time to kill you want to focus on precision and fire control. spamming full auto is not going to be effective as your ability to be accurate with pull down is not going to be able to be as precise

[vernal arch]

i mean it's for medium range

of course close range it won't matter and for long range you'll tap but yeah

[royal wagon]

im including all ranges in that statement

if you are firing long enough you need to think about pulling down you are firing too many shots

at close range it means you arent even aiming at the target before firing

[vernal arch]

it means i'm still getting used to aiming with the stock and people have good armor (a lot of the times)

even with tapping like an ak74 it will have enough recoil to have to wait a bit to fire the next round

[royal wagon]

yep, chose your weapon appropriately

id say familiarity with getting your weapon into a good aiming posture is what you should be practicing there

[modest tide]

AkAlpha with AP will minimize your need to spray and pray, also pick low recoil weapons maybe, scar is very nice for recoil, tapco and ak alpha are all pretty nice as far as thats concerned.

[vernal arch]

btw when you use a weapon that has to use the front part of the stock lets say 2 clicks down, do you grab it at the front before putting it into the stock? cause otherwise your hand won't be able to reach it of course

[royal wagon]

yes

but i dont use those kinds of weapons

their damage is low, the recoil high, the mag size low

[vernal arch]

i'm not a good player by any means so i can't get access to all the higher level weapons

[royal wagon]

you can kill other people cant you?

[vernal arch]

i'm player level 21 but still spectre 2 :/

[royal wagon]

m4's are plentiful

[vernal arch]

yes?

[modest tide]

go hard for spectre 3, youll get a vast amount of better weapons 🙂

wipe coming soon so use this time to go for pvp and practice

[royal wagon]

stack missions that do the same thing

[vernal arch]

i already do

[royal wagon]

so when you kill 10 players you complete 3 missions and get a massive amount of XP

[fallen grail]

I'm thinking about getting a magtube for my quest 3 and I got 126 USD for one any thoughts?

[royal wagon]

spectre is the fastest to level

magtube is the go to imo

[vernal arch]

currently doing the 25 player kills and 25player/fenix kill missions at the same time

i'm not good enough for the kill 5 players in 3 matches ones tho

[fallen grail]

I know what one should I get?

I bought a spine I don't want to fuck up again lmao

[royal wagon]

get a magtube, we already answered that

[manic swan]

@ashen hull my go to is 25 Fenix with smg in x raids 5 players with out dying and a couple others for fast xp

[sudden ether]

Yes, I have it. I have no complaints, and I can configure and adjust it as needed

[manic swan]

You can get the 25 Fenix smg kills in a few silo raids like 3

[ashen hull]

SMG slaps hard

I did duel wield the other day

I didn't hit one shot... 🤣

Turns out duel wield isn't ideal

[manic swan]

Totally didn't mean to ping you in that reply that was odd

No but it does look cool

[hollow zinc]

Personally trying to clip into a big thing that hangs from your neck slows you down and adds a lot of clumsy fumbling around that's unnecessary. But anything is better than nothing

I think the new Mamut is legit. CgripVR, (my product, the UltiStock of course), kobra Vr stuff provide far more agility.

[pure crown]

is the official gunstock out yet

[royal wagon]

check pins

[pure crown]

oh thanks

[frigid fox]

Holy shit I just bought your product off of TikTok the other day my name was daddy please let me know when my stock is coming thanks

[hollow zinc]

Oh I'm not Cgrip haha, I have a different product. But I'm friends with Cgrip, he ships fast you're good

[sour smelt]

is a gunstock worth it

[royal wagon]

yes

[sour smelt]

ok

[nocturne lotus]

We should know more next week

[ashen hull]

@nocturne lotusHow do you get alpha tester tags?

[glad scroll]

Had to get access before the open beta

[nocturne lotus]

Doing hardware together with Combat Waffle helped 😄

[ashen hull]

Ahh damn

[glad scroll]

It was already in the works back then?!

[nocturne lotus]

Yupp, R&D is a beast

[fossil isle]

Ordered mamutvr tabor raidr 🙂

[nocturne lotus]

Oh, a Swede?

[fresh lotus]

Ok, can anyone explain to me the concept of a physical gunstock for vr, expecially in the context of GOT? I have a Valve Index. My questions: How can I use pistols using the gutstock. How can I grab items using the gunstock. And what are the general advantages/disadvantages. Thanks in advance!

[copper ore]

Bought Gunface and it was bad, but with some modifications, it can be best gunstock for Tabor. I will soon write a guide/review 🙂

[copper ore]

I was searching for a minimalist gunstock specially for Tabor, as in Tabor you have to do looting all the time and you have to be very quick between looting and shooting. That's why I did not want to have these popular "bigger" gunstocks. There were not many options and I gave a shot for "Gunface" stock. It has a version for Q2 and Q3 and there seems to be often -30% discounts.

When I received the gunstock, I tested to use it different ways and was disappointed. If you use included shoulder "pad", you have to use weapon calibration in Tabor, which sucks a lot. Also sometimes you could hit the headset accidentally. Also using the gunface with shoulder pad against the headset, as shown in the videos, was a bad idea.

This gunstock comes with 3 tubes, so I had an idea to saw the longest (9 inch) tube half and this way I was able to get perfect tracking WITHOUT need to use gunstock calibration with any gun in Tabor. Also looting and bandages etc works flawlessly. Also when I'm sniping long distances, I put my thumb finger between the soft green pad and headset and you can shoot pixel perfect for very long distances.

So briefly, with Gunface stock, I went from big disappointment to actually have a perfect gunstock for Tabor with a small modification! No need to use physical stock calibration, works with all weapons out of the box, simply dream came true. 🙂

Attached some pictures. Feel free to ask questions!
PS: it can be used fine also without cutting one of the tubes. But then it can be a slightly harder to use bandages or food as you have extra length pointing out wchich can hit your hand or headset.

Edit: As there has been some hand position changes to VDXR, now I actually use the shoulder stock! So this mini version will not work "out of the box" anymore.

[fossil isle]

Yes 🙂
Is it correct the delivery time in the order confirmation email?

[copper ore]

for me magnets are perfect, strong enough that I can take a hand off and it would hold both controllers just fine as an example. also controller clamps are tight and there is no way it could turn between tube and controller. see my short review above. 🙂

[fossil isle]

Look at proper d demonstrating the tabor raidr gunstock... seems to be the all round perfect gunstock imo

[manic pecan]

Anyone know if this gunstock is good?

[glad scroll]

do you get tracking issues with these? Quest 3 controller tracking on itself is not very precise, and with rods above it will block some of these IR leds

[copper ore]

nope, I don't have any tracking issue and I can hold aim pixel perfect for long distances without any tracking drift. Virtual stock option fixes a lot of tracking drift, but with this setup, I don't need to use virtual stock at all as there is none of the drift/tracking issues

I also have Quest 2, and Quest 3 has much better tracking than 2, specially when aiming down the sight

[glad scroll]

for me quest 3 has better "general" tracking in the sense it doesn't loose track as often, but quest 2 has more precise tracking. the quest 3 seems to "guess" or make aproximations

[nocturne lotus]

Ovanligt att se 😄
Anyway, what date did it say? Guessing you got it from GoT shop (which we don't have any insight in, that's up to CW to manage, we manage mamutvr.com)

[glad scroll]

I do breachers comp and you often have to flick quickly and precisely to hit the heads, quest 2 was much more accurate for me

I also noticed they shake less when smoothing is deactivated

[fossil isle]

No i ordered on mamutvr hompage and the confirmation email say about 1 week

[copper ore]

ok! I have opposite experience. Quest 3 has front cameras, so it tracks controllers much better on chin level. Quest 2 did not have front cameras, so it could not track controllers on chin level (aiming down sight). And this was exactly my experience playing tabor with Q2 vs Q3.

[nocturne lotus]

Oh, that's from when it leaves our 3PL (in Borås) and is a general idea for within EU, you'll have it way faster in Sweden, usually the day after.
But first we need to have it ready, which is soon

[fossil isle]

No it's not in the email but when I go to the page "check my order" it says ~ 1WEEK

[fossil isle]

Ok perfect looking forward 🙂

[unkempt plaza]

Where did you order the Mamutvr?

[fossil isle]

On https://www.mamutvr.com/

[nocturne lotus]

Usually it goes out the day after the order is in, so generally speaking, it's correct. But since this is pre order, that'll add undefined time for now 🙂

[unkempt plaza]

Tackar tackar 🙏

[unkempt plaza]

Im 40min from Borås can i pick my order up😂

[nocturne lotus]

Haha, they'll throw it to you

[unkempt plaza]

Il bring beer 🍺

[cold cave]

whats the best gunstock for ghosts of tabor

[manic pecan]

Anyone know if this gunstock is good

[upper urchin]

It'll definitely work if a Magtube or Mamut Wasp are out of your price range. I suspect if I keep at this game like I am I'll either make some 3D printed mods to mine, or eventually upgrade.

[deep stag]

What is the cheapest gunstock i could getaway with?

[royal wagon]

not in a way that would give you any of the benefits of a gunstock

[upper urchin]

Probably @hollow zinc or the Magni+? $70ish, USD.

[hollow zinc]

I'm pretty affordable for sure!

[upper urchin]

I forget, are you accepting orders again?

[hollow zinc]

Yup, re opened last night!

Again, I was just closed for the first half of the week. But I closed for longer over Christmas. Should be open a good long while now, no other big trips on the books till spring break

[upper urchin]

Wild question, but has anyone thought to "upgrade" the Magni+ using Protube's spare parts? I'm looking and I could add the extra pivot point, and the total price would still be less than the base carbon Magtube.

[nocturne lotus]

If I'm not totally off, I think Magni Stock has a 16mm OD tube, while Protube uses 18mm OD (as Mamut does).
Could be wrong though.
Complicates things, but would be worse the other way around

[upper urchin]

That's exactly the type of info I was hoping for. Thanks!

[steady siren]

So you removed the shoulder stock entirely? Whats the point of the stock at all

[copper ore]

Yes, the shoulder stock is useless. You would need to use gun calibration in tabor to get it work and I noticed worse tracking also. Also, the whole point of "gunface", as name says, is to use your face instead of shoulder. If I need to snipe very long distances, I put my thumb between the gunstock and headset, so I get "3 point of contact". But for normal gunfight, getting both controllers attached together with magnetic is already really stable and aim does not drift at all. I have played a lot without gunstock and to get even decent aim, virtual stock setting is must have. But with my gunface stock setup, my hands/aim is way more stable compared without gunstock at all + virtual stock setting enabled

so the difference is night and day with this gunstock vs without gunstock. there is no way I'm playing without gunstock as it is huge disadvantage vs gunstock players. And for Tabor, this gunface stock setup I have, is perfect as it is minimalistic, allows very quick looting and aiming.

you should test it out. There is no need to cut the longest tube as I did to try the setup. Just use the 2 shorter tubes and for right hand, set the tube so that you can easily put your thumb on end of the tube between the stock and your headset

[sudden lance]

Is the protube good? i have been thinking about getting it

[royal wagon]

holding your hands to your face is about the worst shooting posture i can think of biomechanically, theres no side to side stabilization, your arms are raised so you can't do any effective bracing

but whatever floats your boat

[royal wagon]

its the best out there in my opinion

[sudden lance]

Alr but what about looting then? wouldn't that be a bit of a pain?

[royal wagon]

quite the opposite

you just drop the stock with a flick of your wrist, its totally effortless

[copper ore]

your right arm is not "raised" actually, your right hand elbow is against your body and you get very stable posture

[sudden lance]

Do i need the sling in that case?

[royal wagon]

they only come with slings

[sudden lance]

Oh alr

Thx man

[nocturne lotus]

No problemas

[nocturne lotus]

I love Frankensteins, be sure to share the results

[steady siren]

Tried it and doesn't feel good imo, 1 Im losing tracking having my left hand so close to the magnet block, 2 my aim is even shakier than virtual stock, 3 its just uncomfortable holding my arms up that high. If it works for you dope but this aint it for me

Only solution I found to the tracking issue is using it as an angled grip

Might still cut down the front tube though, Kinda like that for looting

[steady siren]

Can you still make that video showing with/without shoulder? Would love to see a 3rd party perspective

[flat wave]

omg i love this gunstock

[flat wave]

pvc homemade

[ashen hull]

Bruh this is a fucking scam

[manic pecan]

Why?

[ashen hull]

$100 pretty much when you can get someone with a printer in your area to make one cheaper

[manic pecan]

Oh

[ashen hull]

You're in US right there will be loads of people who can just print you one for like $20 probs

[manic pecan]

Im in canada

[ashen hull]

Same difference

[steady siren]

which one?

[urban pelican]

whats a good gun stock for vr below $100?

[half spade]

raidr

[hollow zinc]

https://brandodrumvr.etsy.com

https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=vNe5Qv231GUoDW3K

I'd also recommend CgripVR, kobravr and mamut. We're all small businesses. Lots of good people here

[pure crown]

This is like the first stock I’ve seen that doesn’t get you killed or something while looting lmao

[hollow zinc]

Yes, quite

[flat wave]

magni +

[flat wave]

it is, but i got it for cheaper on amazon, i live in the US though

[steady siren]

So I just swapped over to VD to test things, and trying to calibrate physical stock is not saving. its also not letting me point the gun downward at all. Anyone know?

[flat wave]

idk i dont use calibration i jsut go wit out it

[steady siren]

I dont like holding my arms way up in the air :/

[flat wave]

yeah i just deal with it, makes me more accurate

[royal wagon]

Where did you buy tabor

Vd is only compatible with the Steam version

The oculus version doesn’t work right and has significant issues, it’s not supported by the devs

[steady siren]

That would be the problem then lol, But $53 just to buy the game again aint woth it. Ill stick with airlink

Although that has its own issues so prolly time for a break and come back when things get fixed

[royal wagon]

airlink should work just fine, id focus on troubleshooting whatever issues you are having there

[steep orbit]

Get the mini pS5 thing I got

Puppis router will connect only to quest and have flawless AirLink

[modest tide]

Delete your savedata folder and try again

i lied

but i did hear you have to set your hand rotation to 40 or negative 40 when standalone quest is in use

[chilly dirge]

I swear I've tried every setting for the hand rotation and can't get it right

[daring rivet]

Do any of yall have a cgrip gunstock?

[harsh kite]

is the ghost of tabor site gunstock good

[steep orbit]

it looks bad ass

[proud oxide]

Yeah, I got mine a couple of days ago

[copper ore]

Oculus version + VD works flawlessly. Have been always playing with this combo and never had any issues.

[copper ore]

Do you have virtual stock setting enabled? It could prevent pointing up/down

[copper ore]

mean to reply to this. 🙂

[hollow bear]

what gunstock is recommended for tabor?

for quest 2

[velvet crest]

no pvc just paper pipes

i have made one and it works well enought to win over 50percent of fights

[royal wagon]

oculus store version doesnt have steamvr, and VD is only supported by CWS with the steamvr version

when you use the oculus store version with VD it forces it into openxr mode which has not been supported by the devs for 6+ months

there are multiple known issues when you run this mode because they odnt fix any bugs, and one of the problems is the hand offsets are really weird

[copper ore]

yeah, I'm playing with OpenXR. For me hand offset has been fine. I sometimes also play standaone version and have not noticed difference, but maybe I will give a deeper look next time. Anyway, I have been playing Oculus version with Tabor + VD without any issues, so if there are any issues, it has not been affected for me. I have played also with Airlink and it has felt much more worse than with VD actually

[wanton granite]

WAIT HOLD ON A SECOND! Wipe is coming on the 8th, production on the raidr gun stock is almost finished, does this mean that we're finally getting the best gun stock ever 🥹🥹

I can finally stop dick riding the arrival of the gunstock

[fair shoal]

The oculus/VD compatibility might be my problem too. I own oculus store version with dlcs and expansion, if I try running with virtual desktop, I get stuck in a failed loading loop. Login failed. Failed to load entitlements. :/

Oh @copper ore you get it to work VD and oculus version? Airline doesn’t work for me At all! VD loads into game smoothly. But sadly can’t get passed the login part, would be nice to get this figured out

[fair shoal]

Yes it works well. make sure to get the correct version. The magnetic cups have a slightly different angle between quest 2 or quest 3/pro. I had mine since quest 2, and I had to purchase the quest 3 attachments recently.

[glad scroll]

If you buy the game on steam and link your account then you can continue using steamvr

And also steam link if it works better

[steady siren]

Gotta buy the upgraded edition too though, $53 extra for slightly better visuals

[glad scroll]

Wdym?

[steady siren]

So after some more fucking around this really isnt that bad, alot easier to reload now and tracking seems to be good 85% of the time after angling the front grip a bit

[steady siren]

You need to buy the game again AND the upgraded version. Before you can link accounts

[glad scroll]

If you have the base version on meta you just need the base version on steam

It would be maximum 33.50$ if you have NN, not 53

[steady siren]

There are other countries outside of the US, I know they dont explain that growing up but its true

[glad scroll]

What are you talking about? 😂

I'm french, I live in the Netherlands

[copper ore]

yes, having front grip angled a bit is important. I have adjusted it so that when magnet is attached, pressing grip button on left hand grabs the barrel barely.

but I'm still against the shoulder pad, it makes tracking worse and make you need to use physical stock calibration. Instead of using shoulder, you can use your headset as a point of contact

[hollow zinc]

Yeah it should work but the forearm brace works better for Tabor.

But the front grip just makes it a full gunstock and it's still lighter weight and far easier to use so it would absolutely do great for you

[steep orbit]

Don’t sleep on the BrandoVR stock it’s perfect for Tabor

[urban pelican]

really?

[daring rivet]

Sorry for replying so late but I can never grab grips on any gun I put it on, have you figured out how to do that? And I have messed with the ingame calibration settings but that messes up my aim.

i play on quest 2 btw

[fair shoal]

Ordered mine last night. Left-handed blue black for quest 3! Excited to try it out when it arrives!

[proud oxide]

I grab the grip and then put the controller into the front controller holder. It was kinda a pain at first but it’s second nature now.

[daring rivet]

ok thanks

[proper hull]

you can get the oculus version to run with vd but you will run into various issues
only steam version works with virtual desktop and steamlink currently

[copper ore]

strange is that I have not had any issues. Today I compared hand positions between Oculus + VD and Standalone as it was mentioned that the position is off, but hand position was exactly same on both versions. Even menu button works out of the box with VDXR runtime. Before VDXR runtime, I was playing via SteamVR (Oculus + VD) and then only problem was the menu button but it was really simple to fix. I have no idea what is this "various issues" what people are talking. Hand position was mentioned, but at least for me, hand position between standalone and Oculus+VD is exactly same. 🙂

[proper hull]

for me its hand positions, performance issues and "weird tracking" dunno how to describe it, it just feels off

[steady siren]

Standalone has nothing to do with it, It's OculusPC Airlink and OculusPC VD that are different

[copper ore]

ok! with help of OpenXR toolkit, I'm actually able to push much higher resolution than normally as I can cut pixels out which are not in field of view and I can also use foveated rendering for peripheral vision. Also tracking is perfect for me and no difference between standalone and Oculus+VD 🙂

[copper ore]

you probably did not understand what I meant. I compared Oculus+VD versus Quest standalone versions and hand positions match between these, even when the platform is completely different

[proper hull]

maybe something changed, ill test again when i get to it (has been some weeks since i did) but the way vd starts the game is for sure not fully supported (doesnt mean it cant work obviously)

[daring rivet]

I just tried that and my gun sticks straight up

[glad scroll]

When steam link came out I added the oculus tabor executable as a non steam game, and everything worked perfectly except that my hands were lower for some reason

[proper hull]

because the oculus version doesnt have the necessary files to run correctly with steamvr

[glad scroll]

Yes it's understandable, just a bit sad that everything surprisingly works, except one little thing ruining it. Anyway I bought tabor+NN pack on steam since it was on sale and linked my meta account, sucks a bit to spend that much just to continue on another platform but whatever, it's to support the devs 😉

[stuck iris]

anyone interested in the SkolVR Gunstock?

[ocean dock]

anyone used the Sanlaki ELITE VR Gunstock

[royal wagon]

You can use the account linking so you play on multiple devices with the same account

[glad scroll]

yep after buying it again through steam I linked it to my meta account, and since I basically only play through steam with steam link

[thin ocean]

whats a good gun stock to start with

[nocturne lotus]

Lots to browse through.
What's your budget?

[nimble spruce]

hey, on croise pas beaucoup de français par ici x)

[nocturne lotus]

croissant
exhausted my frensh vocabulary, moving on

[glad scroll]

C'est pas étonnant car on a un serveur dédié aux français!

[thin ocean]

i just want some options then all see

[glad scroll]

Je t'envoie une invitation en mp stv

[nimble spruce]

quoi ? je ne l'ai pas trouvé mdr, tu pourrais me l'envoyer en privé stp ?

[lethal cloud]

envoi stp

[glad scroll]

C'est fait

[lethal cloud]

merci

[sharp tangle]

Owning the game on oculus pc and starting it via the Game tab on VD launches it thru steamVR for me, has worked flawlessly the week I’ve played it 😁

[royal wagon]

owning the game on the oculus store does not give you the ability to use steamvr

in order to use steamvr in a game the game must be shipped with the necessary openvr binaries and the exe links to them for use

oculus explicitly prohibits developers from uploading builds with the openvr binary

it automatically gets rejected

using VD with the oculus store game launches in VDXR mode which is not supported by the developers

[sharp tangle]

Gotcha, good to know that it might not work properly then.

[analog arrow]

What is ruffle the best gunstock that's not overly expensive

[spark ridge]

Any one know what a good gun stock is but is not very expensive

[molten fog]

any good medium-high budget gunstocks out there for the steadiest aim possible
preferably bipod-compatible

[royal wagon]

you dont want a bipod

their benefit in vr games with long range engagements is nonexistent, we dont have games with 2km+ engagement ranges

much less a short range game like tabor

the weight it adds is very considerable and its at the end of the gunstock

[hollow kernel]

any codes for magtube discount?

[royal wagon]

10% if you subscribe to the newsletter

[hollow kernel]

@royal wagon thanks

[feral moth]

Has there been any updates on the raidr stock shipping

[swift nebula]

Not yet. Keep an eye on #📢・announcements

[feral moth]

Thank you🙌

[steep orbit]

I used to use that one, I have a video that might help you, but i switched to Brando VR stock. i'll DM you the video

[ocean dock]

That would be wonderful cheers 😁

[surreal wren]

I'm glad it worked for you. Maybe I just have too much muscle memory from IRL shooting, but every time I tried to pull the stock into my shoulder the magnets disconnected.

[vital yew]

What gunstock do you guys recommend for me?

[steady siren]

Tried everything with mine too, Wouldnt recommend anyone buys a GunFace

I think Ill just bite the bullet and buy either the "Protube" or the "Mamut Apto Wasp". Leaning towards the mamut but cant figure out if its quest 3 compatible or not

[exotic bramble]

What's a good gun stock for the meta quest pro

[cunning yoke]

Can anyone recommend a gun stock for the quest. But I want one that is full so no istock.

[glad scroll]

Making my own currently

[pale mulch]

That’s pretty sweet bro I hope it goes well

[humble blaze]

the stocks are necessary fr?

[glad scroll]

Thanks, the cheek rest was way to high so I'll have to lower it, and some other tweaks are needed, but oh man it feels so great to have a stock in vr after 3 years of free handing

[glad scroll]

Imo totally, especially for long range games like tabor

[humble blaze]

never played just heard about it tbh

[pale mulch]

I’ve ordered my first one recently so that it comes in before wipe

This is what I got

[glad scroll]

Oh you should try the game! It's one of if not the best fps in vr

[humble blaze]

where can i get one from?

[pale mulch]

Etsy is a good option

[eager mortar]

i just ordered the stock from wield vr, it will take a few months but it looks very promising

look at this beauty

fully customizable, no magnets but instead open cups for quick extraction, you can switch weapon types in seconds without any tools (even blindly with headset on with a bit of practice), even pump action is working. you can turn and twist the controller cups in any direction to match any grip type and fine tune sight alignment

i had the magtube first, but it's bad if you quickly want to change weapon types (like smg to sniper)

Also the fumbling around with magnets is kinda annoying tbh, i'm stoked to try out an open cup design

[royal wagon]

SMG to sniper on Magtube takes about a half second for me

Less really

[shy mulch]

Ordered mine back in October. Got an email the other day I’ll be part of the first batch. Can’t wait to get it in and use it

[eager mortar]

my magtube gets all wobbly if leave the screws loose, so it's set pretty stiff

[royal wagon]

Mines pretty stiff too, zero wobble. Can easily change the middle between positions nearly instantly

[dusty valve]

That's a magtube

?

[modest tide]

no thats a glistco magni, its almost a magtube with less adjustment points

Mamut apto wasp is the stiffest stock on the market for sure, aluminum joints are so nice, i cant even explain lol

[long kite]

How you change so quick. My magtubes has alen keys. I have to just use rifles all the time 😄

[royal wagon]

thats what the magtube is made for

[blissful isle]

if you set up the stock right though the adjustments are super minimal. Went from an MP9 to an AWM without moving hardly

[sour bay]

Anyone use this stock yet?

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/285656501778?hash=item4282744e12:g:Y0IAAOSwYYFlpm47&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKE05PTHqVT9XUbX0IFTXn6FvsJowQmd0pU4CL4sQ5oGh%2FVPLJ8BE8ucLZrTKl%2Bgj8TjtIfZuw9JtT1A6nlUEaP%2BeOLXp5rNt6wGaeKGxWoFZCtD0XJY7AATVcYy4LopIhJ7BdK5HkAl%2B1rSPE%2FwtHgNAA3RLH3wlxBOo6W7Kio8z%2FQg9P%2BnWNq4tdHlTCOncSF8cTn8p1Mt5Ln8ENv5p1BkjmxKUiB6jI%2FD%2BfucrBnnHilsM%2B%2BvkV%2B590BUlhOiKg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR6Cbr52qYw

[pure crown]

When will my tabor radir gunstock arrive again

[sour bay]

Is it even shipping yet?

[proven plinth]

Whats the best cheapest vr stock

[sour bay]

Pvc pipe

[pure crown]

Huh

[royal wagon]

check pins regarding raidr status

[pure crown]

Where

[royal wagon]

in this channel

[proven plinth]

How much is it

[royal wagon]

check the website

also in the pins

[proven plinth]

One says 30 and one 70 which is complete stock

[royal wagon]

yep, read up

[manic swan]

Gonna pick up a radir just cuz I'm interested in it. Love my magtube tho for how ero dynamic it is for me.

[vivid prawn]

no shot its real ragesaw

saq

if so i love you for your protube video, was pissed when i first got it because i wasnt ready for the learning curve and youre helping me greatly

[long kite]

I can't use any smgs. Way off when I come to swapping between both

[slate ferry]

I can't decide whether I should get a gunstock or not, can someone tell me if they are really worth them or nah.

[vivid prawn]

if you like vr and have extra money to spend on one, sure, otherwise your wont die without it, some people prefer to play without them

[modest tide]

Thats beacsue you are using calibration in game. You have to set irl stock up right, then should be able to transfer between smgs and assault rifles no issue. I dont use in game calibration at all, I use the mamut apto wasp 3, can swith betweeen almost any gun without issue.

[modest tide]

100% worth 2 matched skill players face off, gunstock user always wins. Thats the bold truth my dude

[long kite]

Right OK thanks for that. Yes I do use calibration. I've no idea how to set my magtube up. Tried loads of videos

[modest tide]

So i just picked up a scar, set it up exactly how i like it, i then modded my irl stock to fit it perfectly, then vuala, 90% of guns work without issue.

i have all calibrations in game turned off

[random panther]

3D printer coming in clutch. Added some non-slip hockey tape around the cup to make it a bit more comfortable and less slippery.

[lusty saffron]

i got the istock today amazing

any idea how to make things not slip like on my controller and the buttstock?

[random panther]

I'd grab some hockey/tennis racket non-slip tape, at least for the controller part.
I have it on the outside, but also have a thin strip inside of the cup to make the controller fit in there a bit more snug

[steady siren]

Cant Imagine this would world well with the awm

[eager pilot]

Decided it was too expensive to buy a £ 109 protube so instead I opted for buying a £ 250 3D Printer and £ 50+ in other materials. I then spent 2 days designing and redesigning parts

Probably should've just bought the Protube...

[random panther]

3D printer is great to have though, lots of cool uses

(but 90% of my 3d printing is printing stuff to make my 3d printer cooler)

[eager pilot]

yeye that's what I'm trying to tell myself now to not feel like a waste

And I mean, it was only £ 300. So in the grand scheme of things it's just a piss in the ocean

[random panther]

when you have a whole closet with 4 printers in it, you might have a bit of an issue. definitely not me, haha

[eager pilot]

I like this design, I'm guessing thats a forearm brace at the front? Is it angled?

[random panther]

Yeah it's a brace, not angled though - it's just straight. I brace my wrist against it

[eager pilot]

Okok

[random panther]

But very easy to print and the buttstock is also adjustable, which is great. Fortunately had a spare airsoft one lying around to use for this

[eager pilot]

I was trying to save on material and time by instead of printing the body I just bought a PVC pipe and printed adjustabe connectors! Its a litte tricky to assemble but it worked quite well

[random panther]

Yeah that system is definitely a lot more adjustable and flexible for sure

[eager pilot]

But I feel like the magnets I bought to connect the controllers to the body is a tad bit too weak

[random panther]

I'd check those round magnets with countersunk holes, those things can be insanely strong

but then you'd potentially have issues with them being too strong, and alignment might not be as easy

[eager pilot]

Yea well see

I might buy some stronger and test out

Or maybe try using 6 magnets per controller instead of 4

[random panther]

I bought 32x6mm neodymium ones but they have a holding force of like 43kg - that's probably a bit too much for a pvc pipe build 😄

[eager pilot]

Atleast to the rear one since thats the one holding the most weight

[random panther]

and by probably I mean almost definitely, they are incredibly hard to separate

[eager pilot]

Oh yea can understand that! The ones I bought have a holding force of 0.9 kg

[molten fog]

@obtuse ingot
it works better than it looks

[obtuse ingot]

i had my controller duct tapes don’t worry

but how do the controllers fit? is it just a wide ass pvc pipe

[molten fog]

i cut paper towel rolls and reinforced them with tape

and i just slide it in

[obtuse ingot]

ain’t no way

[wicked narwhal]

how much did the pipe cost or did you just find some around the house or sumthin

[obtuse ingot]

hold up lemme grab one real quick fact or cap

[molten fog]

i found some random pieces in my backyard and cleaned em up, i bought the connectors though

[wicked narwhal]

nice

[obtuse ingot]

oh my fucking tod there is no way

[molten fog]

XD told ya

[obtuse ingot]

that is the smartest i’ve seen

[molten fog]

thank you lol

[obtuse ingot]

i have kiwi straps it takes me extra long but

like holy

[hearty raft]

Anyone got a decent pbc pipe gunstock idea

I have no other pieces just this I got cardboard and clear tape

And toilet paper roles

The cardboard part of it

[floral seal]

Ok, i have a idea, cut it where you want the controllers to be, then add pvc T connectors, add a strong magnet in it, and find a way to put a connecting magnet on the bottom of the controller, or spend 120$ for a better version

@hearty raft

I'm gonna try to make my own aswell, if you do it right you can just slide the T connectors over the pipe so they can slide for different guns

[obsidian quartz]

jus got done, 1hr doing this shi

[floral seal]

Dam looks nice for homeade

[obsidian quartz]

thanks, i just used an old bb gun removable stock

[floral seal]

Nice

[obsidian quartz]

thanks man, im sweating my ass off rn

[floral seal]

Also nice headstrap, I still rock the Basic, poor af rn lol

[obsidian quartz]

haha thanks, its 100 bucks for an elite strap

[floral seal]

I hope the front controller is adjustable lol

[obsidian quartz]

wdym

[floral seal]

Otherwise diff guns will be difficult to use

[obsidian quartz]

nah its just hand placement rlly

[floral seal]

WAIT are you right or left handed

[obsidian quartz]

im right handed

i loot with my left

[floral seal]

I'm left so to me the controller on the stock would be the back hand

[obsidian quartz]

oh shi

[floral seal]

Ima try to make my own adjustable gunstock

[obsidian quartz]

dam good luck, this took me an hr to make

[floral seal]

Like a pvc with t connectors sliding over it with a pin in different spots for diff guns

[obsidian quartz]

ohhh

[floral seal]

It'll be difficult to get the tools tho

[obsidian quartz]

yeah, tbh u just need pvc pipes and super glue with a pipe rhat fit perfectly inside another

[floral seal]

My dad has the tools but prob wont let me use em insupervised

Unsupervised*

Ihave pvc somwhere, or use to, idrk

[obsidian quartz]

fair

[floral seal]

You seem chill. That's rare nowadays, ima add you.

That status bro

[floral seal]

Nice

[obsidian quartz]

oh yeah

[floral seal]

WAIT THATS SO SMART

[obsidian quartz]

wdym

[floral seal]

PAPER TOWEL ROLLS

PUT EM TOGETHER

[obsidian quartz]

yeah,you can slide ur controller in and out

[floral seal]

CUT HOLES TO FIT REMOTES

[gloomy bronze]

What is that

[floral seal]

BOOM

[obsidian quartz]

home made gun stock

[floral seal]

Also were both on wuest

[floral seal]

Quest, what time zone r u?

[obsidian quartz]

im oce

[floral seal]

Oce?

[obsidian quartz]

australia

[gloomy bronze]

Thats

[floral seal]

Oh crud, I'm Est Us

[obsidian quartz]

oh damn

[floral seal]

Huge difference

[obsidian quartz]

i swr no one here is in oceanic severs

[floral seal]

Maybe i can add you and we can play sometime that works for us both?

[obsidian quartz]

yeah, i mean i can jump on now if you want???

i wanna test this thing

[floral seal]

I cant rn

11pm, parents in bed, school tmrw,

[obsidian quartz]

oh shi, fair wnought

enough*

bro my hands me smelling like cardboard and a rusty saw istg

[floral seal]

Tmrw 4pm est, what would that be for you? It's 2pm there rn, so 4 + 15

1900 hours

That's 8 pm for you

[obsidian quartz]

sum like that idk

[floral seal]

Wait no

I use military

[obsidian quartz]

ion go to skl atm so i can play anytime

[floral seal]

4pm is 1600

[obsidian quartz]

yeah

0600 is 6am, thats all i know

[floral seal]

Prob like 1am for you when ill be on lol

[obsidian quartz]

ill be on

maybe, im tryna fix my sleep pattern atm lol

[floral seal]

Ale

Alr, talk in dms for now

[obsidian quartz]

alr

[craggy mason]

Anyone have the cgripvr stock?

[obsidian quartz]

updated verso

[snow crow]

I’m not being funny but how can a 3d printed/ injection moulded plastic and a rod be justified or be sold form 60-180 it’s robbery

[hollow jackal]

carbon is a lot of money, also supply and demand. A neich product will cost more

[brisk summit]

Best gunstock in this game

[chrome dagger]

whats the best cheap like 50-90 euros budget gunstock?

[amber lynx]

Is there any that is actually affordable that’s not homemade

[nocturne flax]

Not really no

[frigid breach]

depends on what you mean by affortable, the Ultisock is pretty affortable and good imho

Cheap, Fast, Good. Usual caveat of 2 of 3 applies

[amber lynx]

Ngl thank you just looked them up thinking bout getting one now

[frosty elm]

Anyone know how the istock feels, if anyone has it

[lofty gorge]

bowk stocks are very affordable and highly rated, i think he even provides print files so all you need is the tube/bar/broomstick whatever you choose.

[floral seal]

You should turn the stock upside down because your controller is above the gun so the stock would feel more realistic that way

[winter nacelle]

I need friends

[modest tide]

having the front hand detached makes it just as difficult to aim as not having a stock at all, thats the whole point of having a fixed stock, so that there is no movement between front and back hand lol otherwise whats the point my guy

[modest tide]

glistco magni or really any etsy product

[eternal galleon]

Anybody know where the real guns chat is

[tough light]

gone, reduced to atoms, and this time permanently

[obsidian quartz]

it helps me alot icl

[modest tide]

Thats interesting, not sure how itd change the movement you have in you front hand. In otherwords the same as cheeking your back controller

[obsidian quartz]

i mean i also have a condition called parkinsons disease were my hands are always shaky, it stabilises my back hand, and my shaking is more in my right than my left

[modest tide]

copy that, is there a reason you dint extend tube forward to fix front hand as well?

[obsidian quartz]

it wasnt long enough

[modest tide]

its at this moment, you get smacked haha

[obsidian quartz]

and i couldnt find any longer tubes

[modest tide]

ahh that makes sense

[obsidian quartz]

yeah, if i had a long enough tube i would make the front hand one too

[modest tide]

maybe just add another tube to the end, tape together and solidfy the interior of it with spray foam.

[obsidian quartz]

i dont have spray foam unfortunately, although i can buy some next tkme i go out

[shy marsh]

need help finding a vr gunstock

where the barrel over top not under

[royal wagon]

you dont want one that way

[shy marsh]

y that

[shy marsh]

why that

[royal wagon]

over the top causes tracking problems

[shy marsh]

okay nice to know thank u

got any suggestions

[royal wagon]

magtube

[shy marsh]

u got the website for it

[modest tide]

which headset do you use?

[shy marsh]

quest 2

[stable raven]

Anyone use the istock? Just ordered myself one

[modest tide]

ahh copy that, The mamut apto wasp 3 for index controllers will come with both top and bottom mount so you can try both and see whihc benefits you the most 🙂 The wasp is hands down the best stock ive ever set my hands on. however they only do top mount for index

everything else is bottom mount, which imo works a lot better anyway, ive tried both 🙂

[shy marsh]

dm the website

[modest tide]

it is an expensive stock tho

one sec

https://www.mamutvr.com/products/apto-wasp-base-add-controller-option

[modest tide]

website posted, they also are the creator of the new tabor raidr stock

[shy marsh]

got anything basic for begginers

[shy marsh]

got anything basic for begginers

[modest tide]

I mean, id highly reccomend going big one time and never having to buy a new stock again. So either do magtube or Mamu apto imo

[shy marsh]

i got a price rang

[modest tide]

what is it?

[shy marsh]

gotta be at least under 100$

[modest tide]

you are in luck, magtube is on sale for one more day at 110

https://www.protubevr.com/en/vr-accessories/169-magtube-gunstock.html

uually 130

[hearty raft]

If your looking for a decent stock go istock gaming

I’m making my own cause I’m poor but if you want a recommendation check the website I said

[snow crow]

Anyone got this stock ?

[royal wagon]

no magnets, dont recommend

you are close to spending real gunstock money there, might as well do it right the first time

[winged portal]

So, anyone already got the mamut radr gunstock? i wanna buy it but i dont wanna rush, i need some opinions

[modest tide]

Nobody has it yet

Wont ship till probably march sometime

Highly reccomend mamut apto wasp 3

[quick raptor]

I do

[brisk summit]

Is the tabor gunstock out ?

[quick raptor]

But I don’t use since I got quest 3

[lofty gorge]

hands down!!!!!!

[violet depot]

read a few chats above your comment.

[brisk summit]

Didn’t find anything

[violet depot]

Man that's alot of copying and pasting but literally in this chat above your comment someone asked about that exact stock and someone answered it.

Has not shipped yet

[brisk summit]

Not to be rude

But I’m talking about the ghost of tabor one

[violet depot]

Mamut raidr and GoT raidr are the same thing

[brisk summit]

Sorry I don’t know anything about gunstocks

[violet depot]

I'm like 99% sure anyways lol and np. I didn't even notice it said mamut, I just saw the word raidr

Suppose to ship end of March, maybe sooner but no one knows for certain on sooner

And can confirm, it's the same stock just sold in 2 different places..huh and different prices

That's kinda wild..$25 more before tax on mamut site compared to GoT website for the exact same thing

[modest tide]

Mamut produces the gun stock, tabor is just a partner and seels them as well

[violet depot]

But tabor is cheaper then mamut

Mamut sells stock+butt for 125 and tabor sells for both for 100 (before tax)

I would expect mamut to be cheaper since they did make them..but nope..makes me feel like I got ripped off no matter which one I picked lol

[royal wagon]

mamut literally sells the exact same thing for the same cost (price adjusted for currency/country/etc)

[violet depot]

Not how it shows on my phone rn? I would send screen shots if it let me

Ghosts of tabor shows me:68 base stock and 32 butt and mamut shows me: 85 base stock and 40 butt.. all in USD

Am I rly the only one that sees that prices on both websites??

[royal wagon]

mamut is in the EU and for international sales

thats where the price adjusted for currency/country/etc come from

[violet depot]

Ahhh that makes sense

I didn't know they were EU,iv never purchased from them before

[modest tide]

Yeah and with shipping on tabor it comes out to 80 so not a big difference

although, mamut does include shippin in base price and has that factored into both items which is interesting

i lied thats without shipping lol

[violet depot]

Yeah I didn't think so lol not from eu, that's gotta be like 20-30$ extra

[modest tide]

big diff haha

for sure

[violet depot]

I think tabor priority shipping was just short of 11 bucks for me. Paid about 120 in total. So just make sure you buy from the same company of the area you live in!

[pure crown]

What’s it called and how much?

[modest tide]

Gonna be a couple months before they start actually producing though

[violet depot]

Ghosts of tabor raidr gunstock

Supposedly they are almost done producing

[modest tide]

Well, id imagine they are almost done testing, I dont think production has yet started. Last i heard they were waiting on parts from china

to ensure that everything works properly and is functionable, thats why they dont have an exact timeline.

[violet depot]

Idk man. Scott has something in announcements saying they are almost done and some guys from mamut said in this chat they will begin shipping out end of March possibly sooner

[modest tide]

Yeah, thats 2 months haha

[pure crown]

Oh so I can’t buy it yet?

[violet depot]

You can preorder

[modest tide]

you can buy it, just wont ship for a while

[violet depot]

Ehh like one month! It's basically February lol

[pure crown]

So it’s like a preorder

[violet depot]

Yessir

[primal tulip]

If I knew about their stock earlier I would have bought it, but I currently use the Magni-stock pro

[manic swan]

I run Magtube. if Tabor was the only vr fps i played i would have sprung for the raider. but since it is not i went the More Ergo route for my hands.

[onyx hazel]

why RAIDR? it looks like its locked in place and im gonna hit my face a lot

[analog rose]

would y'all recommend buying a gun stock for this game

[royal wagon]

yes

[fluid kernel]

i have this EXACT same issue, i can't even play tabor because of it, it's not my controller either, this only happens in tabor

I'm using provolver with the secondary grip on the front

the second i grip the gun with my left hand and clip in, BAM the gun just falls to the ground

[royal wagon]

iirc problem was determined to be the cup alignment causing the grip button to have an issue

oh no, it was the q3 hand tracking

disable the shake to switch to hand tracking on the quest 3

[fluid kernel]

oh no way, thanks @royal wagon 🙏

[dawn steeple]

My aim kinda sucks because I find the quest 2 controllers too light and shaky, can anyone recommend any decent gunstocks for around $60-ish Canadian Dollars? ($45 USD)

[pure crown]

anyone know a good gunstock for index?

(if you respond please do ping me)

[modest tide]

Mamut apto Wasp 3 or Magtube all the way.

[pure crown]

alr ty

[pure crown]

I was looking at wieldVr's gunstock because it looks like it fits my style, but its 200$ 💀 Any similar stocks out there?

[reef bison]

Are you talking about the one stock?

[pure crown]

yea

[safe temple]

Just ordered this for $48 usd

[tender bay]

Thanks for putting this on my radar! Looks like everything I'd want from a VR stock.

[ripe scaffold]

What would be a good budget gunstock? I've been thinking about jus caving and getting one recently but don't really know what I should go with.

[dawn terrace]

i would say protubevr its a gunstock with many controller options and also magnetic holders with easy release but its 125-180 idk how some people feel about it but it comes with a sling and its pretty comfy just add a cushion to the end of the stock and your fine 👍

[warped surge]

I’m in batch 2 the wait time is kinda insane, I’m expecting shipping to the us will be ~ April, that’s for batch 2..

[vestal anchor]

op stock for being broke lol

[tender bay]

Yeah, not ideal, but hopefully it's worth it in the end. I'm in batch 3, so have quite a wait ahead of me! YT comments say they made even more improvements, so I'm looking forward to see what else they came up with.

[sly thorn]

Yo, so gunstock. Pros and cons, is it worth it? I get it’s great with shooting but what about speed and dexterity in other facets? Like reloading. Looking at getting one but I enjoy the freedom of free hands so I can move them independently much quicker and easier

And yeah I’m aware of the new Raidr stock coming out that detaches but forget that one exists for this situation

[crisp horizon]

anyone recommend me a budget gunstock lower than £100 thats good

[drowsy arrow]

There’s cheap ones on Amazon

[violet depot]

Share your results!

[exotic frost]

is that a mangled hangar? melt the top hook into a flat surface for your shoulder

[mental niche]

What are the chances the gunstock calibration will be fully operational by release day? Has the team given any target date for it?

[vestal anchor]

its 2 hangars cut and taped together

[warm wedge]

I think it's low

low chances

[cold cave]

how is the magtube? worth the money?

[manic swan]

Well worth it imo. Just being able to adjust it to a comfortable position to my liking is worth it for me. There's alot of options for many diffrent prices. However, playing more then just tabor I wanted something. Ergo dynamic.

[modest tide]

Mamut apto wasp 3 for the most premium gunstock.

So worth it though

[solar atlas]

This is the ingenuity we need here lmao

I've seen a lot of different stocks for quest 2 that seem to block the IR sensor on the top of each controller. Wouldn't that cause some issues with controller location?

[royal wagon]

Yep

Don’t get stocks with tubes over the top

[solar atlas]

bet thanks for confirming

[shut jay]

Is this any good just 3D Printed it

[violet depot]

The 8th isn't a full game release. It's just releasing on meta store to buy. Stock calibration is very low on their list from what iv heard, prob won't happen for a long time

[mental niche]

that's crazy, a super serious VR shooter that can't work with most physical stocks lol.. like having a car driving sim that doesn't support most driving wheels

[prime cargo]

is there a guide for this somewhere?

[royal wagon]

with some physical stocks

[violet depot]

Most*

[royal wagon]

adjustable stocks have been the norm far longer than the cheaper non adjustable ones

[violet depot]

May of been norm before non adjustment ones but it's definitely not more popular

[mental niche]

it's absolutely most. you can name like 3 it KINDA works with , I can go on Google and search for vr gunstocks and this game won't work with 90+% of what shows up

[royal wagon]

and a lot of those have low sales numbers because they are rather cheap and people dont typically like them or stick with them

[violet depot]

I appreciate all your info rage lol but man your super bias to this magtube/protube and design

[royal wagon]

understanding good design and having been around since the start of gunstocks existing is called perspective not bias

[modest tide]

Thats beacsue there is no comparison. The magtube and the Mamut apto wasp are the only 2 that have the high level of adjustment needed in some scenarios

[violet depot]

But this is the only game that needs this level of adjustment

[mental niche]

100%. not to mention the few stocks it works with require a manual, physical adjustment on the fly when switching guns in game. Most would not even consider those to be "compatible" if you have to pause and move stuff around because you picked up a different gun.

[royal wagon]

yes, many games do not strive to achieve high accuracy in games

[modest tide]

I dont have to adjust literally anything in raid to pick up any gun lol

[violet depot]

Right..which means a highly adjustable stock like the apto and protube..is only needed for this one game..which was my point from the start lol

I used a str8 pvc pipe for contractors and pavlov and worked great

[modest tide]

We are in this games gunchat and to be real its the most realistic vr shooter so in the futre there may be more that require this level of adjuystment. But yeah this gun chat is specific to this game.

[royal wagon]

my first gunstock was a straight pvc pipe, and it was insufficient for the first VR FPS that mattered since before contractors or pavlov ever existed

[mental niche]

if you say so. Let's see a video of you IRL side by side with the game view of you changing up from a m4 with grip, to an SKS, to an MP5 without moving anything around

[violet depot]

Right but I'm talking about rn and current state lol you guys are trying to make this convo about something it isnt