🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[soft epoch]

ya i dont have that but its needed only of the controller is upside down and i sont think ill do that in tabor

[honest canopy]

When is the mamut raidr gunstock getting shipped out?

[nocturne lotus]

Still just Q1, no more details yet.

[upper vale]

why does tabor have weird gunstock calibration

i dont wanna spend extra on a gunstock just so its compatible with tabor

[honest canopy]

What’s Q1

[upper vale]

quarter 1of the year

[honest canopy]

ah ok thank you

[violet depot]

Honestly seems like it's made like this on purpose since they made an "offical" gunstock. Might be a conspiracy theory but just my thought🤷‍♂️

[upper vale]

maybe, the official is too expensive, i dont want to drop 70 pound on a gunstock with masive pipes that come off them

[violet depot]

Yeah I paid 120ish for my current one. I'd sooner go to free handing (which i have) then buy another overpriced stock just for one game.

[nocturne lotus]

Just one game?
There really ain't no limit to what games it will work with.

[hollow zinc]

Wow thanks!

[proud oxide]

I think it’s more of my inexperience with stocks in general. For example, can you easily adjust the grip while in game (or is it even needed?). I ordered the cgrip for the time being the other day.

Figured it would allow me to see what I like and don’t like about it. Then purchase something better once I have more experience.

[nocturne lotus]

I'll take a short video for you to show in an hour or two how to adjust it.

[pure crown]

Still no video :c

Ohhhh

[nocturne lotus]

The concept of time seems to escape you. 😄

[pure crown]

Mb I looked at the time weong

[nocturne lotus]

Haha, no worries

[tranquil tiger]

First 3 months of the year

[nocturne lotus]

That was quite cumbersome to record, a more natural flow if you don't have a camera in-between the body and the stock, my pose was pretty damn weird 😆

Hope it makes some sense though, you just flip up the lever, adjust and lock.

[burnt barn]

looks great.

[frozen linden]

What gunstock would you recommend for oculus that’s not to expensive

[white anvil]

Is the mamut stock recommended and how's the shipping dates on them look? I'm thinking of just scrapping the diy gunstock and just dealing with free hand for now, cause ingame foregrips are literally incompatable with my gunstock setup.

I've tried making a new mounting slot for when a gun has a grip, but I can't figure out how I'd mount the controller below the stock, since 1. Tracking gets blocked 2. I Cant think of anything that would hold onto the ring

[tranquil tiger]

Within the next 2 months it'll ship out

Haven't got much news on it

That's why I went with the magtube

[violet depot]

Isn't the radr a tube with both controllers mounted on the same axis without adjustment? I know it can be pulled apart

[nocturne lotus]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[frail flame]

I saw some guy with a wood rod and ducktaped his quest 2 controllers to it from the O's the quest 2 has

[violet depot]

@nocturne lotus Yeah so the controller can't be brought up in front..how does that work with the current calibration? I have a stock with both controllers on the same plane like that and I can't use guns with for grips, it bumps the front of my gun way up on an angle

Even with calibration it doesn't fix it

[royal wagon]

i too am wondering how that experience will be, you kinda have to change the elevation between controllers in tabor

[violet depot]

Exactly, unless how we can grip guns and how calibration works gets totally re-worked I don't see how this stock is even usable

[pure crown]

How long will it take for my gunstock to arrive?

[royal wagon]

you'll need to ask the vendor you bought it from

[pure crown]

Mamut

The GoT one

I will ask

[nocturne lotus]

Shipping starts Q1, as soon as we have a more precise date, we'll announce it far and wide

currently making chicken uneatable, slow answers should be expected

[royal wagon]

could you make a vid of you using the raidr and switching between an AKM and an M1ASASS with a foregrip?

[nocturne lotus]

Sure thing, will take some time though not to anger the misses, friday night n all

[royal wagon]

sure

i think that will help enlighten people towards how the raidr can overcome some of the design specifics of tabor that make ohter straight stocks very difficult to use

[violet depot]

Yes I'm very curious to see..if you can can you show the gunstock and your game play? I wanna see how your hands and stock look and how your view of the scope is and angle of the gun

[nocturne lotus]

It's not as much as it's a straight stock as it's one without cheek rest and has a very forgiving butt, angle wise.

[royal wagon]

yeah, i get that, i preordered one because i want to try scott style

[nocturne lotus]

Don't think Scott even uses the butt though

[royal wagon]

that is my understanding

[nocturne lotus]

I use it in Tabor and Onward, but skip it in Pavlov.
Though, stuff gets complicated fast when left eye, right hand

[warm thorn]

I thought it was already Q1?

[nocturne lotus]

Yupp, until end of March

The uncertainty is more or less based on some parts made in China risking to get stuck during Chinese New Year. We'll know a bit more before that kicks in.

[nocturne lotus]

Daum, that's a tad advanced, more of a Proper D move, but can't hurt trying. I doubt I'll confidently produce something I see fitting to go public with though, not really what I'm good at 😅

[violet depot]

I just don't get how it'll work..my controllers can do the exact same thing on my stock. (Slide back and forth to adjust) and controllers are same height as each other, and my butt adjusts the height of both my controllera..but that height isn't adjustable. I don't get how you use it in tabor. Tabor is the only game that does this weird

[nocturne lotus]

Do you have any pictures to share on that one?

[violet depot]

I can share picture of the stock but not my sight, I don't have video software to record. But many many many people here complain about this

[nocturne lotus]

Ah, pictures will do fine

[violet depot]

I'll try to this weekend to show ya, but a video is best. The gun sits perfect height until I grip the forgrip then the front goes up a few inches

[royal wagon]

the idea with the raidr is that you just tilt the stock to align the optics

i just dont know how much that might be between say an akm and an m1a sass with foregrip

its a pretty subtantial change

no cheek rest means you kinda quasi free hand

2 points of contact not 4

[violet depot]

Yeah but it's kinda odd that non of those stock makers are seeing or talking about this issue with non adjustable stocks

Like there's no way abhraxxas hasn't heard of this issue I'm talking about lol there's no way this is the first time

[dreamy isle]

@hollow zinc just ordered a stock from you , Do they work with quest pro

[nocturne lotus]

Well technically three point

[royal wagon]

depends on if you scott style or not

[nocturne lotus]

Yeah, this is with butt though

[hollow zinc]

Yup! Just ask for it in the personalization

[violet depot]

Does that tilt lock on the controller holder? Or do you have to hold it at that exact angle to aim? On the raidr

@nocturne lotus

[nocturne lotus]

Not fully sure what you mean

[violet depot]

I see in that video that there's a spring or something, that you can tilt the controller front and back and sideways

Atleast that's how it looks

[nocturne lotus]

Actually got more lost now. I think...
You adjust it freely, when satisfied, lock in to place with lever

[chilly dirge]

Anyone have any opinions on the Sanlaki Pullstock elite? Want to get a stock that won't break the bank

[violet depot]

I don't mean sliding it front and back, it looks like the controller is staying in the same place and just angling it down or up

I wanted to know if that angle can be locked in

[nocturne lotus]

It's free rotation all angles, the lever cramps both the carbon fiber tube and metal parts, making it a solid fix, in whatever angle, yaw or rotation you want

[violet depot]

Oh alright perfect. So only question remains is if that angle is enough for all types of grips and weapons to work correctly

Ty for answering all my rants😂

[lethal sinew]

[nocturne lotus]

I haven't found anything that feels weird yet at least, and I have them ALL in GoT (well, haven't tried all combos yet, there's a lot).

Haha, well, I'm just sitting and waiting for the damn production to be ready, need something to do.

I should be considered pretty damn bias though

[violet depot]

Ok cool. Will prob wait till they ship out and see reviews first but I'm considering it now. Doesn't matter if your bias as long the answers make sense!

[nocturne lotus]

Should be soon enough, I hope
Yeah, I wouldn't piss on my brand for short sighted sales 😄

[dreamy isle]

Nice already did with priority shipping 💙

[proud oxide]

Seems to have a good balance between the ability to adjust the controller with enough strength to also give the ability to have a split stock.

[nocturne lotus]

It's actually extremely stiff when tightened, press it against your shoulder and you can press way beyond hurting before the controller clamp starts to slip. 😃

Way beyond might be an exaggeration, but, pressing it hard is no problems

[proud oxide]

Nice. Appreciate the service. I’m sold. Ha

[nocturne lotus]

Metal is the way 😄

[summer cipher]

anyone have ti me to help me calibrate gun stock the right way

[nocturne lotus]

Check the pinned msgs, might help out

[junior ridge]

Been using the magstock for a few raids now. I know I'll need to get used to it, but while the shooting especially over distance is brilliant, it's hard to manage detaching it to loot, and getting it on and off in a hurry. How do you guys tend to work it - use it all the time or just occasionally? It also gets in the way of of pulling sidearm a bit

[manic swan]

it gets easier to manage with use. it definitly starts off a little stiff getting used to detaching the controllers. also sling is a must it helps so much when it comes to detaching and looting.

it took me a few weeks to even adjust the stock to where i was comfotable with it.

[bold kettle]

Just 3d printed this bad boy. Went into raid tutorial and took me about 30 seconds to calibrate it. Works perfectly and super stable. Only one controller clips in but it has a spot for you to put your other hand that keeps your hands spaced perfectly.

If anyone wants the files message me. I took the stock off a 20 dollar airsoft gun.

It even has an adjustable stock that you can switch between smg and ar. I need to keep working on it so it’s easier to switch quickly.

[nocturne lotus]

Hmm... Didn't need to adjust anything...
Then again, I did have the grip pretty close, if it was further away I would need to adjust.

[royal wagon]

is it a short angle change?

those are two of the fairly differently shaped rifles

since they are both ARs a calibration change affects both

[nocturne lotus]

Nothing at all, which surprised me actually.
I haven't done any calibration.
It's pretty forgiving considering the butt though

Going from Ump to AK5C (my two fav) def needs adjusting though 😄
But it's pretty fly

[burnt barn]

Whats interesting about this video is that u have it snapped down by one click, for me for some reason i have to have it snapped up several times to make a V or my hand just kinda floats around super far under the gun. Im not sure why, but i did play around with the magtube alot tonight and it is fantastic and my aim is now actually good.

[junior ridge]

Main issue I have with the stock right now is it resetting the hand rotation, so it's essentially impossible to use pistols

I hope they fix that

[small fable]

Tabor raidr split stock Base set and Buttstock what is the difference

[junior ridge]

The butt stock has the piece that goes up against your shoulder. The base is just the straight tube with grips

[small fable]

thx

[junior ridge]

Yeah cheers. I'm using the sling and it sits nicely at my side when detached. But that gets in the way of drawing a secondary, plus it's still hard to get it attached again quickly. Just need to get used to it I suppose and decide when it's appropriate to go freehand. I've moved to button crouching because crouching to loot with the stock around my neck is awful

[royal wagon]

Depends on which angles you use and how you have it set up, find what’s comfy

[cosmic shell]

What would be the best overall stock that is like 20-30 bucks

I can pay more but that’s just my base

[manic swan]

Haha that would be my only complaint. It gets in the way of standing and crouching. Iv had to go seated mode as well because of it

[royal wagon]

Add about $100 to that

[tranquil tiger]

Yeah lol

Magtube ran through my wallet

[cosmic shell]

Damn gun stocks are that expensive?

[prime bay]

Yes they are usually partly 3d printed and made out of strong materials so therefore pricey

[cosmic shell]

Lmao I just needed one to aim with

[fluid solar]

Just bought the Kobra MagLock Ultra Gunstock for Quest 3. Just sucks cause shipping takes forever. ETA is around mid February to early March 😞

[vital gale]

i have tomahawk gun stock

[hollow zinc]

CgripVR is close to that price. I'm a little more but fully adjustable.

I get reviews like this. I think you'll enjoy

https://brandodrumvr.etsy.com

[high sky]

Check out BrandoDrumVr on Etsy. Base model is like 50. I have used magnet stocks in the past and got one of these for my Quest 3. Love it.

[modest tide]

yeah, seems to work a lot better without any calibration added in game.

[pulsar inlet]

Anyone have a gun stock recommendation for the quest 2 under 100 or under?

[hollow zinc]

Some good reading above. Lots of good options.

[frigid breach]

To be fair, 20 to 30 is too low too. It's a very niche accessory in a niche gaming area, so there's not much economy of scale to begin with.

[cosmic shell]

True

[frigid breach]

Give the Ultistock a look. It's very competitively priced and checks a lot of the right boxes

[cosmic shell]

Thanks man it’ll definitely help next wipe

[tranquil tiger]

Same thing with fbt

That's why it's so inflated in cost

Set that off to the side so I could get this magtube

[eternal galleon]

If y'all want a company with good support choose glistco

my controller holder thingeys were loose so i contacted them to see if i could get free replacements (i didnt expect) they said send us ur order number and we will send the replacements and they actually did it

[dim ravine]

what would be a good gun stock to star out with

[eternal galleon]

glistco isnt a bad option its pretty cheap compared to other companies and has amazing customer support

u on quest 2 or 3?

[dim ravine]

can i get it on Amazon

[eternal galleon]

yes ofc

[dim ravine]

2

[eternal galleon]

ill send u amazon link 1 sec

[dim ravine]

dm itto me boss man

[open rampart]

Lf someone skilled to play with island mid kit

[tranquil tiger]

#🤝・pvp-groupfinder

[open rampart]

Oops wrong chat

[strange hawk]

Fire pfp

[tranquil tiger]

Frfr

[strange hawk]

Fellow furr I’m guessing?

[tranquil tiger]

Yesir

[strange hawk]

Nice anytime you want to play hit me up 🫡

[tranquil tiger]

Down whenever lol

[nocturne lotus]

Yeah, haven't needed to do the calibration at all

[lethal sinew]

I main the now discontinued freedom stock and it's basically the same thing as the raidr. People are definitely going to be happy to not have to use the gunstock calibration setting.

( would be a nice surprise to see the gunstock cal system beefed up/Updated all the same though )

[glad scroll]

It does work well in tabor despite the fact it's a straight stock?

[lethal sinew]

Yah, never had an issue sighting in quickly.

This is pretty much my experience as well:
#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[violet depot]

well got me sold sir. just purchased the raidr stock with butt stock after seeing your video posted and the other comments. looks like a good stock 👍

[bright agate]

Anyone know a good gunstock for ghosts of tabor that is compatible with the Hp Reverb G2?

[nocturne lotus]

Guessing lots of alternatives out there to browse around, Tabor Raidr will work fine though.

[bright agate]

When will the Tabor Raidr be released? (its in preorder now)

[tranquil tiger]

Q1 of 2024 which is between now and the end of march

[bright agate]

k

[honest canopy]

I hope it ships out soon man I don’t wanna use vr stock any longer lol

[tranquil tiger]

I got the magtube rn but have been to lazy to learn to use it so far

Should put the time into it but just haven't felt like it

[misty nimbus]

Is that why they call you Dingus.

[tranquil tiger]

Yeah

VR shooters just take more effort then I feel like giving

[misty nimbus]

Sometimes it really be like that huh Bungus

[untold star]

Everyone show your DIY stocks 🤗🤗😍

[tranquil tiger]

🥱 easily the best

[void anchor]

HAHAHA

[frosty ferry]

I wanna buy the Kobra Wolverine DMR Gunstock, is the optional pump action thing worth it?

[pine knoll]

not for tabor bc there is no pump action

[frosty ferry]

Yeah but it's not the only shooter I play, i love the pump in Pavlov

[violet depot]

pavlov is pretty much dead though

[gilded torrent]

I had dmr with the pump action add on it was great until they took the pump action shotgun out but it is defo worth it if you play other games it's so satisfying

[vocal plaza]

i want a gunstock but they are so expensive

[tranquil tiger]

Yeah they are lol

Spent 150 on a magtube but haven't felt like using it since I got it on Wednesday

Gotta be in the mood to play a shooter

[willow crown]

#🛑・group-finder-rules

[cinder kindle]

is it true that gun stocks can help keep aim steady.

[half spade]

nah, 3 point of contact isnt real. holding two controllers seperately mid air shaking in tense situations is def better

[cinder kindle]

👍

[vocal plaza]

give it to me

[tranquil tiger]

No

[vocal plaza]

pwetty pwease 🥹

[tranquil tiger]

I need to have no skill issue

Just gotta be in the mood to play lol

[vocal plaza]

10924 Grand Ave CA 89031 ☺️

please 🥺

[tranquil tiger]

😱

[chilly dirge]

Doesn't one of the DLCs list a pump shotty?

[pure crown]

Yea the John wick one

[blissful isle]

its not a pump atm tho. its a semi auto with no pump action

[pine knoll]

Isn’t a pump

[hard copper]

Whats a cheap gunstock thats still good

[tranquil tiger]

^^^ this dude has relatively cheaper gunstocks compared to other companies

[tranquil tiger]

They're still like 50-80 but cheaper than what you'd pay for a big company one

[hollow zinc]

Yeah when you're spending 80 bucks you're buying enough parts to essentially make 3 different gunstocks....so still quite a bargain

The full kit allows you to build either of these in either the regular or large size. Both are absurdly fast. No magnets, just play.

Gets reviews like this.

[lethal cloud]

How to homemade gunstock?

[hexed tundra]

Coat hanger and duct tape

[tranquil tiger]

Pringles can

[chilly dirge]

what is the difference between those two tho? I don't really get what the bottom does

[cursive lodge]

Tie your wrist straps together so the controllers are connected by one long wrist. It isn’t a full gunstock but it will stabilize your aim.

[hollow zinc]

https://youtube.com/@BrandoDrumVR?si=cUXUctELWoN5jV6M

[steep orbit]

BrandoDrum Stock is so fun and easy to use. I've used Kobra VR and Sinlaki which are great as well, but for Ghost of Tabor I gotta use Brandos stock

[tender bay]

Do you by any chance have a detailed video describing various parts, functionality and features of this stock? I've tried a bunch of stocks in the past and while they certainly do help with aim, they felt cumbersome and mainly got in the way whenever you needed to do anything but shoot.

[tender bay]

Wow, never mind, totally missed that YT link above!

[dry merlin]

For 80 ish bucks you get the offical Tabor stock made of injectionmoulded zinc, neodyme magnets and carbon fiber tubes. Our aim when making this was to have a very aggressive pricepoint.

[mortal oasis]

make one yourself lmao

i did that for another game a while back and i was a crazy player

oh yeh no buying one is usually better

in my opinion magnet stocks arent the best, cup stocks feel better. but i think if you have an index you dont have a choice

[warm wedge]

I love my sanlaki gunstock 😄

especially that I've paid like $10 for pipes/magnets

[tranquil tiger]

Yeah might refund the magtube for something cheaper lol

If I can't get used to it today or tomorrow

[hexed tundra]

Gunstocks can take time to get used to

[tranquil tiger]

I've had it since Wednesday

Still haven't got any better on it lol

[hexed tundra]

That's not very long

[tranquil tiger]

Also I think that 150 was a lil bit much for a gunstock lol

[hexed tundra]

Certainly is overpriced, but it's still the best on the market

[tranquil tiger]

I have a whole month return period so I'll take my time

[hexed tundra]

Thought it was 14 days

[tranquil tiger]

Nope 30 days

If I do refund I'll prolly get Brandon's gunstock

And get another VR accessory I've kept my eye on

[shadow jewel]

Dude, you just have to practice a lil bit. The magtube is so worth it but takes time. No other stock ist that crazy good especially for long shots because of its sturdyness and the adjustable cheekrest. My usual engaging distance increased from 50-80 meters to up to 180 meters with AR + Dot, no joke. I got the thing for what, 250€ or something all kitted out and I don't regret any euro spent. The first two weeks you are expected to perform worse, because you have to get the positons into muscle memory, but from then on it's all smooth sailing.

Theres a reason for magtube being the obvious choice for competitive vr shooters in general

[mortal parcel]

Just checking in after a month, have they finally fixed gunstock cal?

I’m not playing until they do

Ngl I really miss playing this awesome game they just gotta fix that issue

[hexed tundra]

just play without a gunstock lol

[tranquil tiger]

Kinda hard when I have gaw damn Vietnam flashback hands

[hexed tundra]

lol

stick to cqb or practice

[tranquil tiger]

Kinda hard to stick to cqb when I'm on island

Getting shot at from lighthouse

[tranquil tiger]

I'll just stick to freehanding it tho

Return this gunstock

[hollow zinc]

I'll hook you up. My stock is literally designed on the exact idea that traditional gunstocks have a massive learning curve and aren't a natural progression. My stock allows the same speed and freedom of movement as freehanding while giving two arm stability. It looks funny but I think it's a good fit for you

[lusty apex]

Is the ak5c classified as a different weapon than a rifle in gun stock calibration? (like the sks is classified as a bolt action)

It's the only assault rifle that's waaay too high when I shoulder it.

[nocturne lotus]

I usually switch between ump and ak5c.
I don't calibrate though

Sorry for the... Sloppy performance...
I was a few beers down at the moment of capture (also seems to have fucked up the audio).
But, usually don't do the weird angled grip, but turns out I don't need to adjust the stock when going between ump and ak5c, big win.

[lusty apex]

Hmmm so ak5c might be classified as an smg in the calibration menu?

[nocturne lotus]

Wouldn't know since I don't calibrate at all...
I doubt though

I realize now this was pretty useless information for you... Sorry about that

[lusty apex]

Haha no worries, thanks for responding 🙂

[nocturne lotus]

Ak5c is a beast though

[lusty apex]

Yeah that's why I'd love for it to line up with the rest of the assault rifles!

[vocal plaza]

why are gunstocks so expensive 😬

[nocturne lotus]

Usually because it's low production round, vr ain't that big of a market.

[real verge]

I'd there any cheap but somewhat good quality stocks?

[nocturne lotus]

It usually doesn't go hand in hand, even though the design might be in order.

[lethal sinew]

what is your budget?

[real verge]

100

[lethal sinew]

Thats a good budget. I would wait for reviews for the raidr. But if you cant wait i recommend the Modus R.

Edit:Nvm it's sold out.

Brandons stock seems good, never tried it so I couldn't tell you though. It's in your budget

[woven rapids]

anyone have any good budget gun stocks

[spare badge]

should i 3d print a gunstock? for fun idk

[finite prawn]

20 dollar pipe stocks are the way to go for anyone looking for cheap ones

[warped iris]

Jesus I haven't seen that pfp since the 360

[haughty jetty]

nothing tops the skull pfp

[astral flower]

.

[hollow zinc]

The new Mamut looks insane. The adjustment connectors for the grips are next level. I fully understand where the cost comes from, it's a bargain imo.

[high sky]

Brandostockvr on Etsy. Defiantly worth a look! Haven’t had to use the gun calibration at all. I’ve been able to use every weapon I’ve picked up with it so far.

[blissful isle]

@nocturne lotus I know it was stated I can buy the controller connectors of the raidr for my mamut wasp. Is there any way that those adjustable controller mounts will work with the wasp magnet mount?

I am aldo wondering if I can also buy the mid joint with a magnet to turn my wasp into a split stock?

@royal wagon question about the magtube. What part would I buy for the middle joint that makes it adjustable on the fly? May buy it to modify my mamut if possible

[royal wagon]

for your wasp? dont you already have a joint for that?

im not sure exactly the entire BOM you want

https://www.protubevr.com/en/vr-accessories/5-4-componant.html#/4-compo_0_type-connection_with_external_notches you want one external notches and one internal notches and a notch washer

their support could probably make sure you have the right BOM

[blissful isle]

The wasp isn't as adjustable on the fly. Just exploring options of just replacing that one joint.

I was thinking those were thr parts needed but wanted to confirm. Love the wasp. May not even like the change. Just want to optimize as much as I can and try different things

[visual pecan]

Is physical stock calibration finally working?

[lethal sinew]

Sorta. Check the pins for the most viable method to run it.

[iron mural]

Hey fellas I was looking for a gun stock that's adjustable on the Fly but still on the cheaper side

I got a budget of about $120 any recommendations

[tranquil tiger]

^

Gunstock is cheaper than most and works amazingly I heard

Refunding my magtube for it bc it's cheaper and easier to use

[steep orbit]

BrandoVr stock feels sooo good, been using it more and more and dialing in how I like the stock. and its so fluid

[viral sleet]

what’s the best gunstock for a reasonable price?

[warped surge]

Probably the @hollow zinc brace or the CgripVR on Etsy

Reasonable meaning sub ~50$

[sand pecan]

I preordered the ghost of Tabor gunstock whenever it finally shows up I'll tell ya how it is. It was an even 100 dollars

[tranquil tiger]

Yeah I'm refunding my magtube

I think it's too expensive for a gunstock ngl

[viral sleet]

thank you

[iron mural]

Thank you

[proud oxide]

Other than the price, how is it?

[tranquil tiger]

Ehhh I personally don't like it but it is very stable it just takes a lot of time to adjust to a good position and the cups are just a lil difficult to remove from the magnets

[sharp hull]

Here's my rough Idea of a gun stick that uses locks instead of clips

Give it a sec

[nocturne lotus]

Not sure I follow you.
The Apto (all versions) upgrade is for the magnet mounts.

Parts like the split stock magnet might become available as an own sku, but, we're not really sure yet if it would make sense in the former product line (more or less, how well it would work)

[sharp hull]

Anyone who has 3d modeling skills can tell me how can I improve upon this

[blissful isle]

That answered my question. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Just wanted to make sure the adjustable controller mount worked with the magnets on wasp.

As far as the middle magnet I'm just spitballing in ways to adapt the wasp to any type of stock. No biggie

[nocturne lotus]

So, like this.
It goes into the plastic mount and doesn't really add more adjustability than the original apto (which is plenty), it just covers more controllers, like Q3 and psvr2.

[vale wasp]

that looks like it might work depending on what material you use

[sharp hull]

I'm more or less using PVC for it

[vale wasp]

thats a good idea, it'll probably be more useful than buying an expensive one

[sharp hull]

Def and I can customize it however I want plus half of the gunstocks are essentially sticks with magnet grips

[vale wasp]

so true

[vale wasp]

have you seen the new new physical gunstocks?

[sharp hull]

What they look like

[vale wasp]

they are like an actual gunstock, but they got side clips and made of something like metal

[sharp hull]

Bruh just buy a gun atp

[stoic vale]

Has anyone gotten order confirmation for their Raidr Gunstocks? I pre ordered a while ago and a still haven’t gotten any confirmation.

[violet depot]

won't ship out till around march, I also never received a confirmation email and bought last week..I took a picture of the confirmed order screen after buying it, just incase

[undone wolf]

should've asked this here
any good (hopefully on the cheaper end) quest 2 stocks?
if anyone sells hardware kits for anything, i do have a 3d printer

oh yeah and it would be preferred for the top halo ring, as i have kiwi grips

[minor spoke]

Where do you buy ghost of Tahoe gun stock

[hollow zinc]

Bass pro shops has Tahoe and Ozark gunstocks

[random panther]

You can build this thing pretty cheap with a 3d printer.
You'll just need to grab some pipes and round screw in magnets from the hardware store or amazon. They also sell hardware kits, but depending on where you are, shipping will be very expensive.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4538594

[steep orbit]

If anyone’s curious how to use brandoVR stock

[empty crystal]

I feel like the arm brace would be better curved outward than inward.

[steep orbit]

That’s how I originally used it. More like a wrist brace, but it’s a lot more versatile when you get more angle. Switch to any gun and also still be able to use guns with attachments

[fossil seal]

interesting design for sure, would def be great for using angled grips

i cant use my tomahawk with the angleds i just sell them and go for the 2nd best option

[steep orbit]

Yeah I think using the straight grip is rough but angled works great

With the brando*

Also how do you like the tomahawk I wanted one so bad but couldn’t wait when I had just got my Q3

[fossil seal]

i really dont regret my purchase and use it in every shooter game

it feels great except but you cant use angled grips in tabor

also very durable

[steep orbit]

Hell yeah 😎

That was the stock that got me excited about a bunch of different designs

[wind mango]

any good recomendations so i can stop using my DIY one my budget is like 35-60 dollars

[dark raven]

Is it supposed to be angled like that?

[royal wagon]

i dont recommend that no

some people probably play that way

[dark raven]

Yeah I figured out how to fix it

[sharp hull]

Could anyone send me pics of their gunstocks quest controller grips

[dawn comet]

how do you calibrate your protube shit

[royal wagon]

Check pins

[bright notch]

My friend made a diy gunstock

[hollow zinc]

You end up adjusting up and down the curved bit for different guns. If it was angled the other way you'd end up with a corner digging in. I'm actually thinking of extending to a longer noodle shape for Tabor to give more surface area to adjust.

[empty crystal]

I like that idea, at its current size my worry is that in a quick pinch moment im gonna try to brace it to my arm and it slide off. Especially if Im wearing something long sleeve with a slippy fabric

long noodle good

[hollow zinc]

It definitely works better with short sleeves. But it's far easier to meet up with the noodle than find a gunstock hanging on a strap, clip in and aim

[royal wagon]

that wouldnt work

yeah, it would be completely useless to that effect

it would be counterproductive to your goals

[royal wagon]

Yep. That’s how stocks work. However, an airsoft gun is a terrible choice for trying to do that as the place you want to put your controllers is already taken up by other areas

[steep orbit]

Ohhh mama I think they fixed the bug that would keep your hand angle from your calibrated gun so pistols were messed up. But now I think it’s better

[ashen hull]

@halcyon iris is now a lord of cracking heads off:

Unfortunately I cured when they were still wet so they've got a slight cosmetic milky look, but still fucking sick

[languid osprey]

wooden dowel stock is craazy

[frigid breach]

Hmm did you print 2 of the same magnet holder? One side is supposed to be concave and the other convex so they fit seemlessly . Yours look like both are convex.

[ashen hull]

I did yes, seems to work very well like this

[frigid breach]

Ah ok, my experience is having the recessed portion actually helps make it easier to align and snap together

[ashen hull]

Works lovely

[frigid breach]

but the way you did it would actually allow you to rotate the forearm slightly left and right

[ashen hull]

Indeed

Because it's resin printed

it's slightly heavier, it makes it easier to find where it's going etc

But it's not too heavy, I find it really damn nice

[frigid breach]

i like the assurance of it clicking together true

[ashen hull]

Yeah this is true but it's not like it's going anywhere

Neodymium magnets go like 💪

[frigid breach]

I got N35 magnets but i find them still a bit weak for my liking. Should have gotten the N52 strength ones. Without the controller they hold damn tight, but once the controller is in I can't tilt the stock via the rear grip without the front portion starting to fall off

[ashen hull]

Yeah that's a bit shit

Maybe I'll send you a free stock, you can compare!

Just add your own magnets

I say free, I don't sell them lol

It's certainly an upgrade for @halcyon iris though, he came from a cardboard stock haha glad it's all working out

@frigid breach just lmk if you want one

[glad scroll]

Did you glue the magnets?

[ashen hull]

I believe he did

The stock Johnny has too is all glued, no screws used

works perfectly

I scratched into the wood slightly with my knife to rough up the surface

then glued on a level surface. It will be very hard to remove

[frigid breach]

expoy works wonderful for gluing the magnet

[halcyon iris]

YES! Way better than cardboard

[zinc meteor]

Ezzzz

[ashen hull]

Yeah but epoxy is expensive

[zinc meteor]

I'm using a strap ATM, going to invest in the Brandondrumvr one

[ashen hull]

3D Printing is all about being cheap

[frigid breach]

mine is otw

[ashen hull]

How much is it?

[zinc meteor]

Quite alot ATM, but still less that magtube ahaha

[ashen hull]

£? $?

[ashen hull]

BRUH WHAT

[zinc meteor]

People are making baaaank from this

[frigid breach]

Hahaha, I have a mini workshop of sorts due to my countless other hobbies. So no lack of adhesives there

[zinc meteor]

Honestly madness

[ashen hull]

Maybe I should start selling them hahaha, I've been printing them for friends for cost price lol. Costs me like £8~£10 to print, cure etc. This price is calculated from the resin, the gloves the everything used so it's quite fair.

[zinc meteor]

Get your stock on Etsy bro!

[ashen hull]

Trueeeee smart

[zinc meteor]

Honestly do It ahaha, like if your going to be charging 25 or somthing they will go quick to say there's no stock for less than 50

[ashen hull]

I'd sell them for like £20, I'm not a scumbag would would sell something worth and let's face it these normal 3d Printed ones with like 2mm lines are not worth more than £5 of parts

The resin was 0.05mm layers haha

[frigid breach]

Works much better with knuckle grips mod

[ashen hull]

V smart

[ashen hull]

I'm sorry but this just isn't worth almost £80. That's like almost a monthly food shop of mine 😂 I pay £120 hahaha

[frigid breach]

Anyway, aim was to test the split grip idea and I must say I like it enough to order the Ultistock from BrandonDrumVR. His design is definitely more flexible and adjustable

[zinc meteor]

It's the best one I've looked at

[frigid breach]

And the DIY one using traditional FDM printing have various weak points. The controller cup actually split apart when I inserted the controller (layers separated), so I had to put in some reinforcement rather than reprint it

[ashen hull]

But is it worth £80?

[frigid breach]

Wasn't so ex last I checked. It was 55USD before shipping if I'm not wrong

There's also Etsy discount codes from time to time

[ashen hull]

That's fair enough

PumbaStock coming soon then 😂

[steady siren]

Forever regretting my GunFace purchase, tried for 3 days to set it up for tabor and completely gave up

[ashen hull]

How much was it?

[vernal arch]

Am i the only one that finds playing tabor with a gunstock impossible? Countering recoil doesn’t really work for me, and if you add a grip the whole calibration is useless because you cant grab it at the same spot anymore, and if you have carried an extra weapon of another class and drop it to shoot your main, it will have the wrong calibration so you first have to drop it then pick it back up etc

It also gets in the way a lot with reloading and other general actions

[finite prawn]

Alot of the guns are unplayable with most stocks like small smgs sks ect just going to have to deal with it ig

[steep orbit]

The brandoVR stock is actually perfect for tabor 😎

[blissful isle]

I exclusively play with my gun stock. If you have a good stock and set it up right you can use it with every gun

[steady siren]

about $110 cad

[modest tide]

yeah gunface is such a weird idea lol

[modest tide]

100% mamut apto wasp for the win

[ashen hull]

Bruh

[blissful isle]

BTW sorry I missed your chat on twitch. Was hyper focused on raid atm

[modest tide]

Haha no stress, I totally get it man! I would not be watching chat while im battling lol

[blissful isle]

I made some changes so I can watch better during the stream now. Been streaming for years but sorta new to VR streaming

[modest tide]

That makes sense, whole different ball game!

[rocky axle]

i need a good gunstock budget is 100

[sharp hull]

Ok so i made adjustments to the prototyoe 3d model and for now looks good heres waht the colors mean

Red= cut where needed
Blue= magnets
Brownish= screws

If anyone has some imagination on how to improve upon this im open to suggestions and criticism

[willow storm]

all u gotta do is js make it where half of the controller is held in place so u can quickly slide them in and out and have a sling on it so u can let it hang

but w design fr

bro id the designer lol

is*

[sharp hull]

Thats what the red on the stick is for you know the thing that holds the bike seat in place thats what i think of using

[willow storm]

w

[sharp hull]

To hold the controller holders in place

[willow storm]

bro finna make bank off of this

[sharp hull]

And to slide them where desireable

[sharp hull]

Tbh money isnt really a priority to me just use it as reference and go to your local homedepot and pick up some pvc materials to make it

[willow storm]

shit id add like some motors in the back so they spin and kinda give recoil

[willow storm]

even more w bro

[sharp hull]

Sat here and took a good hour of modeling and reference of other peoples gunstocks to model it

[willow storm]

damn bro only an hour that shit would be wild if u thought it out for a bit

not even gonna cap

already is pretty wild tbh

[sharp hull]

Toom two good days on it being in my head to put it on a free 3d modeling software on my tablet lmao

[willow storm]

dayum lol

[royal wagon]

you need adjustable height between controllers

[sharp hull]

Ur right hol up

[royal wagon]

and the ability to adjust the controllers left or right a little

[willow storm]

u can prolly use like a ratchet strap type deal and when u release the lever u can adjust it and when u close it it holds

js with straps

small straps*

[sharp hull]

Done wing nut go brrrrrr

[royal wagon]

how to accomodate left/right variances on the controller?

[sharp hull]

Magnets you can swap on how you want your controllers to be left in front right on bqck

Or the other way

To your preference

[royal wagon]

cheek rest angle?

or height

[sharp hull]

Havent thought of that

I believe i would have to extend the stock and make it height adjustable

Aight i got an idea lemme cook

[sharp hull]

I cooked and i served

I cook and i serve the left stick stays still while the rest of the stock moves and the bright blue is a cussion you can get or use whatever you have lying around

[royal wagon]

ok now eliminate all of the plastic from the load bearing parts

and reduce the friction wear surfaces

so you can have a long operational life

[sharp hull]

What material would you suggest one would use

[royal wagon]

carbon fiber

[sharp hull]

Ur on a budget

[royal wagon]

carbon fiber is quite cheap

[sharp hull]

Depends on who you are buying from

[royal wagon]

amazon

can get two 50cm tubes for like 15 bux

[sharp hull]

1 ft x 5ft would cost you 8 bucks and depends on jow much y9u use use it wisely remember measure twice cut once

[dull tinsel]

which are those?

[sharp hull]

What kind of magents should i use i read around that neodynium magnets are best for gunstocks

[ashen hull]

Neodymium are just extremely strong for their size, that's why. For this reason I also suggest them.

[sharp hull]

What size woukd you suggest

[ashen hull]

Depends on your stock, if it's the v1.1 on Thingiverse @halcyon iris can suggest the one he used with the stock I printed for him

When people like me and others exist who can print you stocks for cost price idk why people spend so much, there are people on facebook and stuff who print models for cost price and you can save like £70+ in some cases 😂

Genuinely it's WILD to me people spend so much

But personally I'm always after the best deal haha

[sharp hull]

I just asked for magnet size suggestion

[ashen hull]

^

[ashen hull]

I'm just ranting hahaha

[sharp hull]

Idk what that is

[ashen hull]

ah

Then I suppose it depends what stock you have or want

The magnet size will change depending on that right

[sharp hull]

Aight

[ashen hull]

Ultimately thin magnets are best imo

But you want the correct size to fit whatever hole it's going into

[steady siren]

I'm using it in shoulder stock mode, its just that no matter what my gun will be pointing left...

[modest tide]

interesting, ive never used gunface but turn off all your calibraton settings and delete the savedata folder

[sharp hull]

My inspiration for my prototype is

https://youtu.be/TqIxdqYTmCM?si=TsU1rz3CgXcRF3xk

If the thumbnail would like to show up

[royal wagon]

gun pointing the wrong direction horizontally is due to your controller mounts being misaligned on the horizontal plane, you probably need to adjust them to be slightly wider

back to the outside, front to the inside

[sharp hull]

You think this would be good for the adjustments

[royal wagon]

looks very imprecise and not positionally stable

[sharp hull]

?

[royal wagon]

you'll learn when you build it

[sharp hull]

Screw size should be bigger?

[royal wagon]

most of your design

having a slot down a tube in the middle will cause a lot of misalignments

one side will be more forwards than the other

you have no reinforcement method to keep this in place

[sharp hull]

Actually I'll insert a smaller tube into a bigger tube for reinforcement and stability

[royal wagon]

you are making this a lot harder than it needs to be

you are learning the slow way why the protube was designed the way it was

[sharp hull]

Not really

[royal wagon]

its been an often duplicated design because it was engineered correctly the first time

you dont need to reinvent the wheel, start there and ask yourself what design goals does it not address

if you think of one, you have a good starting point to add

and tube within a tube wouldnt stop the problem

you can still get some variance on which side is more forward than the other with a slot design

[lusty apex]

Does anyone else have any problems with the angles of their hands/wrists changing randomly? I'd be perfectly aligned one moment, but then after picking something up my gun is pointing at the sky, and I need to put it down and pick it back up before the angle is right again. And the angles of the in game hands feel weird in general since a little while.

[royal wagon]

this is because the gunstock calibration is triggered by the last weapon that gets picked up

[lusty apex]

But it shouldnt change between AR's for instance, right?

[royal wagon]

correct

the SKS isnt part of the assault rifle category

[lusty apex]

But if I'm holding an AR, it should default to the right config right? Why would it point way up all of a sudden

[royal wagon]

you pick up an AR which you have a calibration for, keeping it in your right hand

with your left hand you pick up a pistol or smg or bolt action or sniper rifle or SKS, none of these are ARs and have their own gunstock calibration (or lack of)

your AR alignment changes

this will stay this way until you grab your AR again

[lusty apex]

hmmm okay, that makes sense. I'll see if that is actually what is happening to me

Does it matter if I play the game through steam, oculus or virtual desktop? Do they all have their own calibration files or something?

Feels like a lot of weirdness started happening since I stopped using steamlink (I have a quest 3 and play through PCVR)

[royal wagon]

it does not matter

that is your problem, once you know its easy to identify and fix

[sharp hull]

What be fuckin awesome if I knew how to remove the CO2 tubing from an airsoft gun install it on the buttstock of the gunstock and have it blow back on spring in the middle of the gunstock so it would act as if you are shooting an actual assault rifle creating recoil

[pure crown]

If you figure it out that would be fire🔥

[sharp hull]

Ong

[sharp hull]

My guess would be some sort of piston blowing back and hitting something

[pure crown]

Yeah or maybe a haptic that goes off when shooting

like a haptic suit

[sharp hull]

That would be more electric for me gas blow back would be a little more realistic

[pure crown]

True

[sharp hull]

And would respond better to a trigger pull on the controller like a string connected to the metaphorical trigger

[pure crown]

That would be an epic build you would make bank if you actually made them and sold them lol

I would buy a crap ton of them

[sharp hull]

But first things first I would have to learn how blow back works then how to apply that knowledge onto the gunstock I want to become the Michael Reeves of this shit

[pure crown]

that would be some goddamn fire if you figure it out

[sharp hull]

Do you think a .177 blowback pistol has more effective recoil or a plastic blowback

[pure crown]

Not sure

[wary basin]

What gunstock should I get I want to get one but I don't know where or what to get

[dawn comet]

the thomhawk seems to be the best and easiset to calibrate and is more free the the protube cause i have it and its taking a lot to get use too

[royal wagon]

There’s limited calibration options on the tomahawk

You need to make sure you are making the right adjustments to your Magtube. Being a fully configurable stock means you can certainly be doing it the wrong way

1: adjust the back half optimally foe your body. Find the right length of pull to give you a natural support position as well as the check rest / controller angle and height

2: adjust the front half to support your game. Making sure to be horizontally aligned straight and allowing easy height adjustments to switch between weapons

3: optimize further with the game functions to correct for any oddities in gun offsets. With this game it’s mostly a distance issue with the eye relief being really far fowards due to the gun offset being so far forwards

[feral grove]

Mag tube are impossible to play with unless you sit in trees.

Skol vr tomahawk are very easy to calibrate he even posted a video on how to do it just for ghost of tabor. I can’t find one for magtube.

If you go around to every streamer that uses the mag tube, they literally sit in trees just like you, and just like lumberjack

[royal wagon]

thats a really strange opinion that is not based in reality

[feral grove]

Skol vr is the best imo

Hahaha you think I’m a noob

There’s over 800 tomahawks in goast of tabor. Been around since before launch. I’m sure skol would back me up but the proofs in the pudding you guys w your mag tubes mill siming in trees don’t compare to the amount of skol vr being used in game so he lets the little guys frolic while the real play people play w a tomahawks

[feral grove]

Find me a calibration video for ghost of tabor from mag tube I’ll wait

[royal wagon]

check the pins

[feral grove]

Mag tubes are not compatible w every gun

Get the ak calibrated and grab a scar it points to the ground.

Skol vr is the best

[royal wagon]

another strange opinion not based in reality

[feral grove]

Why are you avoiding answering my question?

[modest tide]

magtubes and aptos are the most adjustable stocks hands down, not sure what you are trying to say? I use and have no issues switching guns, ill post video for all neighsayers lol

[royal wagon]

you seem to have some issues

[feral grove]

Find me a ghost of tabor calibration video

[royal wagon]

i jus ttold you

its in the pins

[nocturne lotus]

Haha, wtf is happening?

[royal wagon]

i dunno

its quite perplexing

[feral grove]

I guess if you argue with an idiot that makes two idiots so I’m out of here. All I was arguing is the ease of use if it’s all in the pens of the mag tube and all this other fucking weird shit why can’t I just pick it up and use it that’s the most perplexing part of this super expensive fucking gunstockno

[royal wagon]

you are the only one arguing here bro

[feral grove]

https://youtu.be/My7HFa-4PDk?si=-87_yTBzud2f8Qj2

[modest tide]

bro, I promise without any in game calibration I am able to pick up an ak aplha, use it, then switch to a scar and use it then switch to an op sks and use it then switch to an ump and use it, without issue. Without changing anything. I use the mamut apto wasp 3, I mostly play matka and dont do tree sitting, works fabulously

I feel like calibration might be the issue at hand for you potentially.

[dawn comet]

man its ass i have it and all i can use is the goddamn ak and then it likes to fuck up

ive been losing way more fights with it then i was before

[royal wagon]

take a look at the pinned calibration guide, it is step by step with explanations and includes a walk through video

[modest tide]

Sounds like you did something wrong

[dawn comet]

yeah ive done that it doesnt work

[royal wagon]

thats not very specific

its all pretty easy to do, so if its not working right you did something wrong

if you could be more specific about the problem you are having and what you have tried we can try and get you back on the right track, but the calibration guide even covers how to do that

[silent veldt]

Any good but cheap magnetic gunstocks?

[manic swan]

For those who been through wipe. Does it reset calibrations to or just player data

[royal wagon]

you'll probably be best served by deleting your savegame file

it doesnt reset calibration but the data files change enough you probably want to clean it out and start over

[civic rampart]

someone tell me what a really good gunstock is

[languid osprey]

one you like using

[sharp hull]

What yall think about this

I changed out the buttstock so the tube goes into another tube and put a spring and a stick would hold the spring in ofc the upper tube would be held together with the aformetioned tube and stick and w9uld be a adjustable cheeck rest to whatever height you desire and instead of clip on controller grips i swaped it out for T fitters because its more reliable and made it so the foward most tubing is flattend and the back tubis is too so that both would be more reliably connected and adjustable

[hasty beacon]

Yo can anyone recommend me a good physical gun stock never bought one before

[abstract lion]

In the same boat, and not trying to spend 150 for a magtube

[sharp hull]

Cheaper to make one

[hasty beacon]

Fr

[sharp hull]

Thats why im making this prototype

[hasty beacon]

My guy i don't have the equipment to make one

[sharp hull]

Home depot

[hasty beacon]

What all type stuff do you suggest

[sharp hull]

Thats the thing im still brainstorming and taking suggestiong which apparently no one has the imagination for

They rather have someone else do it for them and pay them whatever they ask for

[abstract lion]

Im bout to cut a stick off a tree and super glue magnets on it and controllers 😂

[sharp hull]

When i make one and makema video imma annouce it here

[hasty beacon]

Honestly maybe

[hasty beacon]

lmk how that works

[covert ravine]

does anyone know how to fix the gunstock settings (i'm aiming down in the pic) but it's locked in place

[sharp hull]

Btw neodynium magnets are the strongest magents you can use and cheapest with varying sizes

[modest tide]

you will 1000% end up paying well over 150 once its in real form and functioning unless you use cardboard or sticks lol even if its 20 dollars every change, you will exceed that. I had the same idea, make some from 3d printing, some from home depot parts, by time I had a design I loved and worked properly I paid well over the mamut apto I ended up getting anyway lol XD sure I came up with some awesome stuff that worked really well but these guys have spent countless hours and materials creating a proper functioning design.

I mean for example, neomidium magnets, you will need at least 4, that at least 20$ right there, god forbid you glue them in and need another set after changes, you will be at 40 without anything else.

Then you add in adhesives, materials whether it be pvc or printing material. thats another 40 at cheapest. If you have a printer that is, Well now you are around 60-80$ for some makeshift design that is bound to have flaws because nothing is perfect in prototype. Nevermind the gas spent driving and hours putting it all together mentally and physically. Trust me, ive made like 4 differnt stocks, all well designed and functioned well. some from home depot, some from 3d printing. In the end, mamut apto wasp was king.

[sharp hull]

Not gonna use a printer tho and depends on the materials you use those people use industrial sized machines that costs thousands of dollars and for the average person it's different

[modest tide]

I am the average person and I work for a large engineering firm lol

[sharp hull]

Measure twice cut once

[modest tide]

See, you think it will work like that, and then itr doesnt.

[sharp hull]

Ok and? Your point

[modest tide]

new ideas pop up constantly while making and using in real life

design will change after irl use, I promise lol

[sharp hull]

It's a project in it's proto stage that's why I'm using a 3d modeling app and a pencil and paper still working out the kinks

[modest tide]

I think you will be able to make an amazing stock, I sure did. Will it be half the price of the magtube after all said and done, especially in design process. Hell to the no but thats okay, it may just be cheaper for the next guy because of you going through the hassle

[sharp hull]

Exactly

Carbon fiber lining so it can withstand use?

[modest tide]

def a solid option, I really like the carbon lined products ive got my hands on, very very firm and light at the same time.

[sharp hull]

Made to withstand use

[royal wagon]

with a pipe cutter its very easy to cut precisely too

dont use a hacksaw

[sharp hull]

With a Dremel drill it's easier to make precise cuts

[royal wagon]

you ever cut carbon fiber tubes before?

its a tad messy with that kind of a cutting process

[sharp hull]

I'm gonna use a sticker version

[royal wagon]

and you dont want that shit getting into your lungs

oh, thats not going to add any rigidity

thats just for looks

[sharp hull]

First cut the PVC pipe then tape it on

[royal wagon]

PVC? this is going to be heavy af

[sharp hull]

Not really for looks it's gonna go inside the tubing so it can resist wear and tear

[sharp hull]

Start lifting

[royal wagon]

lol

bro acting like nobodys ever made or used a stock before

[sharp hull]

Ik people have made it and ik PVC is going to be heavy but my intention is I go thru the process and show everyone how to make one

Also what do you suggest for the adjustable grips

I already thought of wing nut to make it easier but what do u auggest

[royal wagon]

something indexed so you can step it through precisely

[sharp hull]

Wdym?

[royal wagon]

a gasket to keep it smooth

[sharp hull]

Oh so like a button to make it easily adjustable @royal wagon

[frigid breach]

Apparently, not any kind of cuts or basic fabrication either

[spring venture]

fiberglass may help

oh wait no nvm that makes things flex

[flat wave]

got my link cable and my stock just came in

[steep orbit]

Oh that reminds me. Anyone that wants a nice stable wireless solution

PRISMXR Puppis S1 PC-VR Streaming Link Air Bridge AX3000 WiFi6 Router Compatible with Meta Quest 3/ Quest 2 Accessories, Replace VR Air Link Cable, Wireless Stable and Fast https://a.co/d/d7wkUHq

It’s like a baby router plugged straight into PC

[dense solar]

man got the ps5 rounter

[sharp hull]

Explination tk my gunstock

[umbral monolith]

Router 5

[steep orbit]

It’s a little bb PS5

[sharp hull]

Explination

Please anyone who has knowledge of gunstocks or know how to make em give me criticism and or advice

[modest tide]

adjustable buttstock might be overkill, get magtube dimensions and possibly go with fixed style, occums razor

[violet depot]

a vertically adjustable buttstock is a good feature. The 2 stocks iv tried so far sit to low on shoulder to feel comfortable, I mean iv gotten used to it but still

[gloomy basalt]

Is this gun stock for quest 2

[violet depot]

Yes

It's universal, fits most if not all controllers

@gloomy basalt

[steep orbit]

damn that price point is so good for a non 3d printed stock too!

[gloomy basalt]

Ok

[steep orbit]

oh wait thats just the buttstock 😅

[violet depot]

Yeah, the rest of the grayed area is the stock, that's 60 something

[steep orbit]

still looks really solid and made by Ghost of Tabor so its gonna work perfectly with the game

[violet depot]

No doubt, I bought the full set up. Waiting for them to ship them

[steep orbit]

I cant find it on the website only the 2 base and stock

[eager cosmos]

1 make sure the spring peg dose not mess with shouldering the stock
2 think about how you are going to print this

[eager cosmos]

and if you are printing this use 100% infill for the added strength

[sharp hull]

1 I'm too broke to afford a printer
2 I got crafty hands for this I was raised to go to home Depot for all my crafting needs
3 I go to Amazon and buy magnets and carbon fiber so I can line the inside of the tubing to it can resist wear and tear

[eager cosmos]

haha have you deceded what kinda mangnets yet

[sharp hull]

All of this is gonna be PVC, wing nuts, washers, spring, heat gun, neodymium magnets, carbon fiber vinyl, and spray paint

[eager cosmos]

is the main body of it gonna be pvc or carbon fiber

[sharp hull]

Pvc first to make a rigid body then cover it with carbon fibre

[eager cosmos]

nice

[sharp hull]

Or make it so that the inside of the lower portion of the controller holder has carbon in it

Don't wanna use too much

[eager cosmos]

the butt hook may be too long depending on what vr device you use

[sharp hull]

The butt hook is really for the cheek rest you can make it short or long however you like also that is for cushioning

Could not make a better model

[eager cosmos]

ok so will that have a slide as well?

[sharp hull]

If you want that's up to you I prefer it to be still

Like if you're sniping and you want it to be still or move it

[eager cosmos]

do you like sniping

i just thought of this
bc you cant go prone in the game i was thinking of a stock that kina looks like a backwards brace that stands on your thigh as the support

kina like a stock that reaches down you your leg for a 3 way support

[sharp hull]

You can use a T connector and have the stock both ways

Would you rather have it static or moveable with the spring to make adjustments

[eager cosmos]

i woud think ot have i moveable depending on how tall you are

horizantaly

[sharp hull]

Shits gonna start looking like those diy hangars lmao

[eager cosmos]

yes exactly

you get it

but obously it is deatachable

[sharp hull]

And the spring depends on your strength for me it would have to be semi strong bc well I would try not to put my weight on kt

[sharp hull]

Ofc it's a T bracket

[eager cosmos]

yes

[sharp hull]

But if you would like to glue it be my guess

For me glue the primary T bracket then glue the top price and hold the bottom piece with a machine screw or wing nut

[sharp hull]

Rn it looks good

[glacial torrent]

Dimensions?

[sharp hull]

Still working it out

Just like generally any design updates I should do or what materials I should use

NOT PRINTING ITS PVC

[glacial torrent]

Flextape and glue

[sharp hull]

Carlitos❤️

[glacial torrent]

Or idk
Magnets? If you wanna go fancy

[sharp hull]

Obvi

[sharp hull]

Check the vid /\

[sharp hull]

@glacial torrent

[glacial torrent]

Charge your tablet

[sharp hull]

Already put it down fo today

[abstract lion]

Has anyone used the sanlaki gunstock? Doesn’t look bad for the price just looking for reviews

[sharp hull]

What glue should I use for neodymium to PVC

[wheat horizon]

I took my old Amazon gunstock and made a ghosts of tabor gun stock. I’m sure mine isn’t nearly as good but it works great

[sudden silo]

Anyone’s controller drift when aiming with the gunstock and not stick drift

[royal wagon]

only quest users

mostly with SKS and AKM/AK74

its from your front controller being in a tracking deadzone, the fix is to get quest pro controllers

[sudden silo]

Been looking at them tonight. Thank you for that appreciate it for sure

[ashen hull]

Can you use quest pro controllers with quest 3?

[royal wagon]

yes

[ashen hull]

damn

I wish you could use index controllers without tower

[rare stirrup]

index controllers are honestly great. I personally find them awkward to use with a gunstock mainly the protube one

[ashen hull]

Yeah I imagine it would be tricky

[upper urchin]

Which one? I have/had the Pullstock Elite. It broke pretty easily. A lot of people swear by the ones that attach to the top, but I have enough tracking issues on my Quest 2 without putting a chunk of plastic on top of my controllers. Currently I'm using the Magni+. Works great, wish it had a bit more customization, but for the price, it's pretty great.

[obtuse stream]

So I been havin this problem too. Soo if I upgrade my quest 2 controller to quest pro should fix it?

[main magnet]

whats this for?

[obtuse stream]

Or is there a fix for it without spending $300.

[obtuse stream]

I have the pro tube and I’ve noticed that my front hand will just move around on its own even while on the stock.

[main magnet]

thats wierd

OH

this is for the stocks they sell

riiiighhhhtttt

i thought it was for in game

[obtuse stream]

Buddy said something bout it being a trackin problem but I don’t really notice it in other games.

[main magnet]

lol

[obtuse stream]

Nahh this is just where everyone goes to talk about the different gun stocks

[stone hamlet]

Nice toes 👍

[royal wagon]

Yes

Or upgrade to a platform with a less limited tracking system like an index or bigscreen beyond

[abstract lion]

Is this the one you have? I initially seen this as well and thought about getting it

[upper urchin]

It'll definitely work if a Magtube or Mamut Wasp are out of your price range. I suspect if I keep at this game like I am I'll either make some 3D printed mods to mine, or eventually upgrade.

[vernal arch]

Maybe a dumb question but how do you counter recoil with a gunstock? I can only manage to do it by lowering my stock but after a few shots like that you can't ADS anymore because the gun will be too low

[gloomy verge]

That was my issue as well, led me to just stoppint using it and I win so many more engagements now without it

[vernal arch]

Yeah i have played a bit with the stock now and honestly everything is just way slower and more of a hassle than before

the only thing actually better with a stock is being able to ADS without losing tracking or when aiming up that you can see through the sights unlike when you are not using a stock (cause it moves weirdly if you dont use a stock and have to aim down or up a lot)

[vale panther]

anybody have a problem where your physical gunstock calbriation is sooo buggy

[gloomy verge]

Yeah definitely agree sadly, the only real upside is super steady aim at long distance and more immersion but the virtual gunstock honestly isn't even that bad at long distance shooting

[vernal arch]

yup basically everyone as far as i've heard (especially with attachments it's unusable

[vernal arch]

i regret spending so much money on a stock my expectations were high but i'm so disappointed lol

[gloomy verge]

Definitely understand that if you got it solely for tabor, but it actually works really well for some other games like into the radius and h3vr, it works especially well for into the radius when you take into account that you don't even have to turn off the virtual stock setting for it to still preform really well

[vernal arch]

yeah i bought it solely for tabor :/

[loud tartan]

i mean i bought it for tabor but used it for contractors and my gameplay definitely improved

[covert ravine]

is the physical gunstock setting bugged?

[modest tide]

yes, delete your save data folder in appdata and then turn of all calibration

[modest tide]

no you may have saved date that is messing with it

data*

[modest tide]

Thats wild, ive seen a 1000% increase in combat capabilities and gunplay, I use the mamut apto wasp, its rare I die in straight up gunfights

[covert ravine]

how do i fix that

[modest tide]

%appdata% then local then delete the savedata folder in your tabor folder in that line

then reload game, you will have to reset your settings but it fixed so much i just culdnt get around, tbh if you have a good gunstock you dont even need in game calibration

[covert ravine]

ok thx

[vernal arch]

it's just because i think it isn't really thought out well.. If you use a gun, and find some attachment well.. if you want to use it you can recalibrate mid game or put it in your bag

stuff like that but also just recoil control things like swapping from doing random stuff with your bag etc to locking your controllers onto the stock and grabbing your gun quickly

i find that if i have to switch to my gun i have to put it away in the "holster" then lock my controllers on and then grab it again cause if i grab it before i lock my front controller in it will mess up the angle when shooting etc

[modest tide]

interesting, which stock do you have? ive noticed every function improved as far as gunplay goes when using stock.

[vernal arch]

magtube

[modest tide]

Magtube is a premium option for sure, I would recommend trying turning off all calibrations. so turn of virtual and physical gunstock. Then find natural setup for magtube irl that matches gn in game. Im literaly able to switch from an ump, to an ak alpha to a scar to an tapco sks, no issues at all. No adjustments in game, nothing, im even able to go from shift to angled grips without issue.

[vernal arch]

how though? cause the positions for each weapon are way off

[modest tide]

See I hear that all the time but I just dont understand how people think its so vastly different, especially if using foregrips, all guns have bottom mounted picatinny for adjustable position foregrips in game. even thoughm without forgrips its stil not a real issue to use any gun I pick up with gun stock.

I have all setting sturned off in game, I built my irl stock off of the scar and everything just fell in line after that. I really need to post a video on here to bust this myth wide open

[vernal arch]

i'll try it

can you post a picture of what your gunstock setup physically looks like? like the angles and stuff

[modest tide]

yeah, ive posted one previously, let me find it

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

when i get home ill grab some more straight line pics so you can see hand orientation

[vernal arch]

thanks i'll try to use it as a reference

you reckon yt'ers like timeless and tan have it set up the same way as you? cause when they are doing stuff other than holding / shooting a gun you cant see at all they're using a stock it seems so effortless

[modest tide]

100% There is a streamer named pwn1 and he uses magtube with the same settings as me and works perfect for him too. Also if you look at all streamers, that general stock setup seems to be across the board.

He is an absolute savage in the game btw, he probably dies 1 time in 25 runs lol

[vernal arch]

alright thanks you might've just saved me from returning the stock 😂

[vernal arch]

you mean timeless? he's a monster

sometimes he's like oh a player there and he's killed him before i even saw a pixel on the video

[modest tide]

haha nah pwn1 but timeless is good as well ive heard haha

[vernal arch]

This is how i’ve got it set up right now btw

[modest tide]

yeah this looks pretty solid, set up your favorite gun the exact way you like, foregrip and all, match your irl gunstock to that gun in game, make sure all gunstock options are tunred off and it should work like a dream come true. Some people have great experience with ingame calibration, others dont. Luckily the magtube and mamut have enough adjustment to be perfect regardless.

[vernal arch]

Alright i’m gonna try that i hope it doesnt give me tracking issues for the front controller cause that’s what’s happening to me a lot with or without stock

The reverb g2 controllers aren’t very good at that

[vale panther]

can you message me a tutorial

[royal wagon]

you arent using your magtube right. its adjustable so that you can move the center tube up or down to accomodate the different gun shapes / foregrip setups

this is my setup for my ak alpha w/foregrip, which is also the same for m4, ak5c, scar, and many others

front tube one down from straight

m1a sass is straight, awm is one up from straight

akm no foregrip is two down from straight

[modest tide]

yeah, rage is a magtube pro so highly reccomend listening to what he has to say as well.

[vernal arch]

how do you do it if you have to switch mid game?

[royal wagon]

move it up one notch

or down

[vernal arch]

with an allen key mid game?

i've got it in a decent position now

it's kind of twitching a bit when ADS'ing

is that due to tracking?

[royal wagon]

no, dont lock it up

leave it adjustable

same with the front cup

you can easily have it stiff enough it doesnt change accidentally and flexible enough you can change it when you want

[vernal arch]

oh okay

[vernal arch]

I tried replicating this set up just now and it is way too low for me lol idk what i’m doing wrong

I knocked my headset trying to ads haha

[royal wagon]

you have different controllers than me, so the shape is a bit different

i also have the back segment straight

so if you knocked your headset i would say you need to adjust it so the tube that supports your rear controller is straight, that iwll lower the height of hte controller

you will also want to configure your length of pull so you have the optimal ergonomics, this is important for usability

better ergonomics = lower friction = faster and more repeatable

[vernal arch]

Alright thanks

Now my gun somehow aims a bit to the right tho why is it doing that?

I’ve gotten it to a decent position but it just aims to the right a bit

[modest tide]

hand orientiation to the pole its on, turn ot shift it

[royal wagon]

i need to make a new 'how to calibrate your gunstock' video

[vernal arch]

This is the most frustrating thing i’ve ever had to set up

[royal wagon]

just whole end to end video

its pretty easy, you just have to understand what you are doing and why

[vernal arch]

If i go down a notch it is way too far down and it aims to the left a bit if i stay at this notch it aims to the right and up a bit too much

[sharp hull]

Should I add a two stage angle adjustment to my custom stock?

[royal wagon]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[royal wagon]

one of your parts isnt horizontally aligned

and your hand spacing is not very good

[sharp hull]

This is my custom stock

[royal wagon]

1: adjust the back half optimally foe your body. Find the right length of pull to give you a natural support position as well as the check rest / controller angle and height - check my video on this here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoV8TQIEUYo&feature=youtu.be
2: adjust the front half to support your game. Making sure to be horizontally aligned straight and allowing easy height adjustments to switch between weapons - check my video on this here: https://clips.twitch.tv/PricklyTubularBarracudaPicoMause-vxFUP585vkUbiZyi
3: optimize further with the game functions to correct for any oddities in gun offsets. With this game it’s mostly a distance issue with the eye relief being really far fowards due to the gun offset being so far forwards - check my video on this here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1999321404

[sharp hull]

@royal wagon give me ur opinion on my stock

[royal wagon]

its going to be heavy and bulky, (pvc is a poor material for this), its not going hold position very well due to your retention mechanisms, and as such its functionality and precision will suffer

you are reinventing the wheel

people have already gone down the roads you are going down, learned some lessons and moved ahead to fix these problems, when you skip learning from other peoples experiences you are destined to reinvent the wheel

you need high rigidity, low weight, ergonomic form factor, high flexibility, and repeatable functionality. i can switch gunstock orientation to fit multiple weapon shapes with exact precision every single time

[vernal arch]

Wait so you do use the calibration system?

[royal wagon]

yes, please read all of the recommendations, they answer this question and why you want to do each step

[fickle sparrow]

How do people feel about this old out of print gunstock... ?

[sharp hull]

Is that a fucking ski skate?

[fickle sparrow]

6 lb steel bar that the attach points magnetize to

[sharp hull]

Ah looks good

[royal wagon]

i dont think that would work very well

[sharp hull]

You ever thought of adding two point adjustment so you can adjust to different weapons

[fickle sparrow]

I know people trend towards light gunstocks but this thing served me well a few years back

[royal wagon]

straight stocks dont work well with tabor, and non adjustable ones dont either

[fickle sparrow]

So, this is gonna sound insane: you can just put either hand in whatever position you would like at any time

[sharp hull]

NUH UH

[stiff dock]

i just bought a gun stock(dont know if its good)

[fickle sparrow]

You can also slide your front hand along the bar to simulate pump-actions

[junior fiber]

can anyone tell me a good 3d printed gunstock?

[fickle sparrow]

It definitely takes more energy over a session to use than any of the more traditional gunstock designs but I've found it to be the most useful because you can do stuff like bringing your right hand forward for bullpups...

[fickle sparrow]

To print yourself or... ?

[junior fiber]

to print myself

[vernal arch]

I give up

I’ve tried to get this right for 2 hours and i’m still nowhere near usable

[royal wagon]

do you have any calibrations saved in tabor?

you should start from scratch and set it up in the right order

[vernal arch]

Nope have turned virtual and physical gunstock off by recommendation from another user here

[royal wagon]

ok, is your cheek rest parallel with the tube that your rear hand mounts to?

in the last picture you posted it was not

[vernal arch]

I dont get what you mean

English isn’t my first language sorry

[manic swan]

Isn't physical stock on the thing that allows you to calibrate? I'd go for what feels comfortable first then fine tune through calibration in game

[vernal arch]

Yeah but i’ve found game calibration to be really buggy

[manic swan]

Not every one is going to have the same preference for what angle and buttstock position feels good

[vernal arch]

I know but my gun is either off to the left or the right depending on what notch i set it to

[royal wagon]

yes, that means you do not have everything horizontally aligned

im trying to take you through this one step at a time

[vernal arch]

I really appreciate that but i don’t know which parts you mean

[manic swan]

Cups for your controller

[royal wagon]

i got this, thanks

[vernal arch]

Could you maybe explain with a picture?

[vernal arch]

Ahh okay

[royal wagon]

that is parallel

now the angle the connecting part that connects the butt to the main part of the stock will determine your height offset for your cheek relative to your controller

you can have it shorter or higher based on this

you would loosent the two rear joints and change the angles so the height from the cheek rest fo the tube is lower or higher depending on the directions you chang eit

[vernal arch]

Okay i have it like this now

[sharp hull]

Can I get a full pic of that?

[austere umbra]

W

[royal wagon]

those are all of the adjustment points labeled

[vernal arch]

Okay so as i have it right now the gun in game is a bit too high and off to the left, and pointing to the right a bit

[royal wagon]

your first goal with getting your stock setup properly is to adjust the parts connected to J1 and J2 to give you the right height of your headset relative to your controllers

i havent tested WMR, but with a vive, index and oculus controllers the setup i have worked the same

thats step 1

[vernal arch]

Gotcha, so in my case i have to make the rear higher? Cause my gun in game is too high

[royal wagon]

which gun

[vernal arch]

M4

[royal wagon]

ok, yes, if the m4 is too high its because your cheek rest is too low

[vernal arch]

Should i test without grips and sights?

[royal wagon]

that part doesnt matter yet

height is determined by your rear controller alone

[vernal arch]

Alright

[royal wagon]

you will want to loosen RC2 to get your controller angle correct

you want it to point out straight and parallel to your cheek rest so you have to do minimal work here

a few degrees high or low is fine, your front hand will determine the overall angle

once you get J1, J2 and RC2 set, then you want to configure your length of pull

you loosen RC1 and slide it until you get a good feel, if you can rest the shoulder part of the but in the crook of your elbow while holding the gun in one hand pointed up, thats a good metric

my youtube video covers this in more detail

you want the butt in the crook of your elbow and your finger on the trigger

this is an exteremely ergonomic shape that will feel really natural

you'll be able to pull into your shoulder and ADS with zero effort, and holding your aim will be really natural

guns are sized this way IRL for this reason

[vernal arch]

Okay i think i have that dialed in nicely now

[royal wagon]

ok, after you have that complete, you need to get the horizontal alignment

this one is trickier

it has to do with the rotation of your rear cup mount point, your front cup mount point, and the middle joint

the best one to do first is the middle joint

pull that up so its like 90' and compare if the tip of the front tube is lined up straight with the middle and the cheek rest

you want all of that to be horizontally aligned

this will take a little bit of trial and error, and lots of fine tuning

dont worry about the cups yet

[vernal arch]

Can you name the joint names and show on the picture what that would look like?

[vernal arch]

Okay

[royal wagon]

they are labeled, J1, J2 and J3

the front tube connects to j3, the main tube connects to j3 and j2, the rear tube connects to j2 and j1

you might need to loosen the tube connectors at each of these steps and make some adjustments until they are all lined up

probably not at J2

[vernal arch]

So if i’m getting this right the front tube must have 90 degrees on the rear tube?

[royal wagon]

if you start with the cheek rest by loosening the tube screw (not the joint screw) for J1, you want to get the cheek rest to be lined up with the rear tube and the main tube

its easier to see the alignment of you put the front tube at a 90' angle up

or 90' down

then you kind of look down it to see how its aligned

[vernal arch]

You lost me here

[royal wagon]

hold the protube by the butt, and look at it from above

you should be able to line the cheek rest up with the middle tube

[vernal arch]

Like this?

[royal wagon]

yeah

its probably easier with the controllers off for now

because you'll be changing those soon

[vernal arch]

Alright

[royal wagon]

you'll want to kind of point it forwards and look down the cheek rest to try to get it aligned with the main tube

once that is done, tighten all the screws at J1/J2

[vernal arch]

It looks pretty straight to me out of tje box

[royal wagon]

ok, now rotate the front tube up and down, you'll want to see if its aligned here too

if you raise or lower the front tube and the gun changes to the left or right, its not aligned

very small misalignments can cause this issue

[vernal arch]

I think it’s straight but i’m not sure

[royal wagon]

what about with the tube rotated up all the way

[vernal arch]

Then the tip is to the right of the stock

[royal wagon]

there ya go, now find out if thats from the cheek rest or the front tube

you have to look at it pretty carefully to get it just right

[vernal arch]

My guess is it’s a bit of both but i honestly can’t say for sure

[royal wagon]

yeah, so make some small adjustments and see

your alignment point is ultimately the center tube, adjust the front and the cheek rest

[vernal arch]

Which screws for that?

[royal wagon]

the screws that hold the part to the tube

so not the joint screw at J1 and J3

but the tube screw at J1 and on the main tube side of J3

[vernal arch]

So this bottom right one?

And this right?

[royal wagon]

T1 and T4

[vernal arch]

Gotcja

[royal wagon]

let me know when you get that part done

[vernal arch]

Okay i think i have it as good as i’m gonna get it

[royal wagon]

examine it from a number of angles, if it looks as straight as its going to get, you are probably ready for the next step

after that you need to adjust your cups so your gun points straight, loosen RC1 and FC1 a little, and then rotate them a little bit until in game it points straight when you ADS

then tighten it and rotate the front tube up and down, it should remain straight

[vernal arch]

I’m going to redo it one sec