🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[hollow zinc]

Or...of course the product I make.

https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=SNqdkyXH_updsnpC

But really it's whatever works best for you. Lots of great products out there

[dull tinsel]

its in every video description, he does not uses one

[dull tinsel]

and ? did u?

[dawn shale]

I had a nap, aboutta go so soon here how it is, I’ll let all the folks know who are like me and wanna see if it’ll fix their no shots hitting

[dull tinsel]

i tried now 3 gunstocks, they all are amazing during shooting, 10/10 !!!! but they all are 5/10 reloading or looting

[dawn shale]

Have you tried the glistco yet?

[dull tinsel]

i print them myself, i dont see the glistco working tbh. your forearm will be a) to high to feel "real" or u cant reload without dropping the stock.

i print atm a version by @hollow zinc , my experience tells me this one could be it. it will be done in 3 h and then i will report again

i know i talk bad about almost every gunstock. most of u are young so i do get 150 euros / dollars are alot. but i have a feeling that most ppl are not honest about practically in GOT and they just dont want to admit it was a mistake to bus it , i know if u play pavlov 80% of gunstock will be awsome! in GOT its amazing during shooting and aiming. i feel i have the aim like @scarlet stag , his videos are insane with his steady hands.

[dawn shale]

Gonna try reloading with it, I’ve never felt such strong magnets in my life, I can fling the whole setup around using one controller to it, and If you wanna detach the controller you tilt it instead of upward trying to unhook it lol

[dull tinsel]

yeah, they hold like 50 kg if u just pull 😄 i know thea are amazing

[dawn shale]

Wym no reloading without dropping it if I may ask

[dull tinsel]

the lower part of the tube is "in the way"

[dawn shale]

I gotta test this

As you can just calibrate that to fix it

[dull tinsel]

well thats what i said a few times already, maybe i do a mistake. but i tried like 1-2 h calibrating. if u can reload is does not feel" right or reel" if its like a real gun, u cant reload

maybe if we get this new calibration this week it all will be different

[dawn shale]

Ohhhhh

If you want it to perfectly feel like a real gun then, a lot of issues, for me I just wanna aim better

[dull tinsel]

my problem is maybe i was in the military, and also i play airsoft. so im might be just too much used to it.

[frigid crest]

What gunstock do you guys recommend for the quest 2 i was thinking the cobra wolverine but i want to know if i have better options

[dawn shale]

Glistco, never used it, never tried it, but somehow I’m now an expert on it👨🏼‍🍳

(Joking), @dull tinsel what do you recommend

[dull tinsel]

atm ? not one :/ im sry but i stick with my previous reply

low budget brandondrums one is almost done.

i have high hopes for this one

[dawn shale]

Heck yeah

You got magnets?

[dull tinsel]

i have aswell, atm my fav

ALSO ! ALL I SAY IS JUST IN GOT!!!! every other vr shooter is fine....cause u know.... u shoot 😄

[dawn shale]

This one is realistic 🤣

Flash back to people flying**

[dull tinsel]

ok, its done. will try it out now

[proud hedge]

bit late but I checked the description I just didnt know if hed include it in “my setup”

[frigid breach]

Feels like this is a reason why I should get a 3d printer

[upper urchin]

@hollow zinc sells the stls?

[dull tinsel]

thats the spirit ! 😄

[dull tinsel]

no he does not. he gave a old prototyp version to me, so i dont have to spend 1 h to redraw it 😛 and before u ask, i wont share them, sry.

[upper urchin]

Haha, fair enough. I was hoping he would sell it directly so I can make personal tweaks

[dawn shale]

Gunstock, idk if it helped or not

I think it did, I only got one round in, a guy pushed me with a pistol, I couldn’t FACKING reload my gun so I just gave up and watched him headshot me

It was silo though, I think gunstocks perform very well in Island since long range

[placid bobcat]

How's it was?

[dull tinsel]

to early to say sry. SO FAR! its the best one i have tried

[placid bobcat]

Steady hand and easy reload I bet

[dull tinsel]

i need to modify 1 angle which u can easy modify in the buy version, but i have to mod it manualy

[placid bobcat]

I see that YouTube guy use that same as your new gunstock

[dull tinsel]

yep! reloading was AWSOME!

[placid bobcat]

Loot ez too?

[dull tinsel]

i can already say the @hollow zinc one is by far the best to reload without putting your controller out

[placid bobcat]

That's great

But it's ez to loot while ur controller on right hand. Cause it's lightweight

[dull tinsel]

was that a question? XD and yes it is. but i need to do more testing

[placid bobcat]

Yes it's question

[dull tinsel]

its lightweight. i dont really "feel" the controller, cause of its design u can easily pull out your backpack and loot with left , which i do anyways

[placid bobcat]

U use right hand pull out backpack and ur left hand loot in backpack

It's awesome. Or it can be lefty lol

[ruby pelican]

Anyone seen a stock I can use ambidextrous? I want to be able to swap hands for better use of cover

[hollow zinc]

Fwiw you'll get used to it and you'll just do everything with both hands just like normal

[dull tinsel]

yeah i do pick up weapons with right hand. i will go on testing now 😄

[dawn shale]

Glistco

I’m ambidextrous and I can swap the controllers anywhere needed

[ruby pelican]

That sounds great. How long does it take to swap them. I need seconds. No tools or anythin

[dawn shale]

Instantly

Change grip

Or tilt en off magnets and change them both into eachother spots

@ruby pelican do you also aim with any eye

[warped sand]

Anybody got any reviews on the tabor raidr stock? Lookin for some detailed vids on it but can’t find anything

[dawn shale]

Pre sure it’s not out

[warped sand]

That would make sense, looked like you could purchase it on the website but I probably would’ve found something about pre order had I actually clicked on it.

[ruby pelican]

That's dope I'll look into it. No I don't currently shoot with either eye. That will require some conditioning

[obsidian chasm]

magtube! good choice man!!

[dull tinsel]

ok after playing now for 2h i can say the one from @hollow zinc is by far the best i tried.

-u have your lefthand always free
-i dont get how but your aim is steady, i would say 9.5/10 , the one with fixed grips are 10/10
BUT all stocks i teste were hard to calibrate, change mags, loot, get backpack
-its lightweight, so u can easily use pistol

also to be clear its a ripoff , off his!!! his ich much much better due to be able to change zertian angles!!!!
i just wanted to try the "design"

[hollow zinc]

haha it's not a ripoff it's my design lol

I used to sell this version but folks wanted the adjustments

I'm going to upload this to cults 3d and sell the files for chearp

[dull tinsel]

yeah , u know what i mean! the one u sell is much better!

[hollow zinc]

cheap* might add back to the store just to have a lower cost option

[hollow zinc]

Yeah the model I sell is infinitely adjustable for angle and size on all axes.

https://brandodrumvr.etsy.com

[dull tinsel]

this is the topview.

i had problems reloading mp40 and aks
with this stock u always free infront your right hand

[hollow zinc]

Find a bullpup, that's my favorite to reload with this thing

just like real life

[upper urchin]

If you do I'll be your first customer. Also, is it possible this is your design?

[hollow zinc]

why yes it is

[upper urchin]

As in you uploaded it? I just don't want support others for your work

[hollow zinc]

yeah lol

it's not all there, he tried to steal it though

it's a bunch of random files he somehow got from a google drive

I reported it though

[upper urchin]

That's what I thought. It looked like a rip. I deleted the link. Hopefully they delist it

[hollow zinc]

I mean, if it was free I'd be less concerned but someone else trying to make money off of a stolen design is bogus lol

still though...

[hollow zinc]

Cults3d pulled it quite quickly. Thanks for telling me!

[tall tree]

@hollow zinc Does just having a forearm brace takes off any immersion a full stock gives where you insert both cups?

[hollow zinc]

no, not in my opinion at least

my favorite thing is how you can get it to line up exactly with the guns in game, feels like touching the butt end and the cheek rest of a rifle and then it's there for you when you shoot

but I do have front end grips that you grab if you want that full stock feel

[tall tree]

I currently own a full stock where I insert both cups, its a Bowk inverted one for Q2. Tabor makes it hard constantly have to take off and put both controllers

[dull tinsel]

no ! i thought so aswell. i would rate the feeling 7/10 tho ( hands free 1/10) my bigger stock fellt 10/10 BUT im not here to have nice feeling. im here to shoot ppl in the head

[dull tinsel]

thats exactly my problem i had with my other 2 versions.

[upper urchin]

Np. I'm only a hobbyist, but I can only imagine how much effort went into your design.

[hollow zinc]

haha, took so much playing in VR to test it out

labor of love.

....and headshots

[tall tree]

True, we all want to kill enemies 😂 My point is, I cannot like free hand a weapon anymore after owning a stock. IRL I miss the stock immersion feeling. If Brandon stock doesn't keep that feeling away I might buy one to get a versatille stock

[tough oyster]

https://cults3d.com/en/3d-model/tool/vr-gunstock-slidr-meta-oculus-quest-2

[tall tree]

@hollow zinc Can the Standart size fit all the guns in Tabor? From Small SMG to largest rifles?

[hollow zinc]

yeah!

just move your arm

your off hand is floating, the forearm brace meets your arm...at the forarm

really early example with a prototype but here's me holding a really long gun

here's me holding an smg

still able to hold pistols the right way and the wrong way as seen here lol

[tall tree]

@hollow zinc Nice, just ordered from you. Lets see how much I will enjoy the stock, I really like the concept and the freedom of it. Just watched Skuzzy vídeo.

[wooden latch]

hey @hollow zinc im having some trouble with the physical gunstock in tabor while using the ultibrace, sometimes when i turn when aiming down sights... instead of my gun staying planted in my shoulder and turning with me, it pivots in place to where im looking at the side of the gun.. and sometimes when ads'd the gun will start to randomly turn on its own... do you have any advice with the calibration? aka further or closer to me/higher or lower etc? it didnt used to do this when i just used the virtual stock :/

[hollow zinc]

make sure you aren't holding it so the front controller is being blocked by the back controller

the only downside of limitless adjustability is that some people end up setting it up that way, I've done so myself

this is more of a problem on Quest 3 than Quest 2, I'm guessing you're on quest 3

[wooden latch]

quest 2 actually 😦

[hollow zinc]

PM me though, this is GOT open chat not product support

[wooden latch]

you're right, i just wondered if anyone else had a simialr issue in tabor

[hollow zinc]

ah gotcha, happens in general when you put one controller right in front of the other so the cameras can't see the front one. Known issue with the quest headsets

[wooden latch]

hmmm. i will take that into account, it does seem like my front controller is blocking the rear/vise versa

thanks for the tid bit!

[pure crown]

Any tips how to get used to gunstock?

[royal wagon]

Practice

[modest tide]

random luck lol

Anyone tried out this badboy?https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4796835

[tropic furnace]

Might get this should I?

[quick kettle]

Sten gun

[surreal quarry]

Would cause tracking issues and doesn’t look that sturdy

[vapid crater]

Sigma Ohio griddy rizz

[surreal quarry]

@hollow zinc do you have an Ultibrace q3 product who can fit with AMVR grip ? They are really important for me

[spiral torrent]

Do not get that one. That bar coming down in front of the rear controller prevents you from loading a mag into most guns. Also the front controller will swivel on the bar so it’s not stable. I received this stock for testing purposes and sent it back after testing it… even tho it was sent to me for free… it’s that bad.

[opal scarab]

Any tips for calibration? Most things seem to be working right but smgs specifically the cx8 storm or whatever doesn't want to align properly when I calibrated smgs

[royal wagon]

check the pinned guide in this channel for details on how to use the calibration system

[spiral torrent]

This was my review of it. Watch the video. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/review/B0CJDL2ZDB/R64WYH7POCUAT?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_dprv_PJ1YRG145SYX5GG6K0WB&language=en_US

[royal wagon]

theres a video included too

[opal scarab]

Okay pinned does that mean at the top of this page ?

[royal wagon]

yes

[modest tide]

click the pin, at the top right, looks like a thumb tack

had soomeone print me this, will update on if its great! 🙂

[royal wagon]

mimicking your gunstock on a real life gun is not the most productive design

games do not conform to what you think the grab points and angles will be when you compare it to a real life model

looking at how your controllers are angled, the gun will be pointing unusably high and you will not have any way of correcting that with your gunstock design

if you want to have a high compatibility gunstock, that means a stock that can let you cheek weld with all guns in all games, you need at minimum

1: individually adjustable angles of each controller on the stock
2: individually adjustable length positions of each controller on the stock
3: adjustable height differential between each controller on the stock
4: adjustable butt length/angle that will allow you to adjust height

[opal scarab]

Rage so per your video I should configure my stock with a slight downward on the front controller?

[royal wagon]

thats what i have found works the best for most ARs with a foregrip

ak alpha, m4, ak5c, scar, etc

but some of the guns will vary, M1A SASS requires me to bring the elevation on my front controller up some

[opal scarab]

Okay cool ty for your help! I hope this gets a bit easier in the future 🤣

[royal wagon]

if you have a magtube or a similar design, the distance your front hand has from your rear hand, and where the pivot angle on the middle joint is, will make a difference as to how much adjustment is needed

[surreal acorn]

Hey guys so I just got in my ProTube VR Magtube Gunstock and I’m honestly having trouble figuring out how to calibrate it in game and how to position it in general- I feel as though on the Quest 3 it’s losing my Controllers in every position I try so my hands disappear- can someone walk me through it like I’m dumb please

[royal wagon]

you need to be careful of how far forwards you have your front controller on the tube

this game likes to have weapons that push your quest controllers into deadzones, stocks dont help with that

if anything they can hurt it because it puts your controller in the same place every time

so you'll need to figure out some physical djustments you can work with to get it adapted to your body, and then figure you what angles you can support, and try to do some gunstock calibrations to adjust the guns to fit that orientation

or you can get some pro controllers and stop worrying about the quest deadzones

[normal grove]

Do you guys ever just go free-hand somedays?

[royal wagon]

no

[tulip swift]

I don't have a stock so I'm only freehand

[blissful isle]

Since I got my gun stock it's always on when I'm playing

[royal wagon]

id quit playing VR before going free hand

[proper cipher]

if i'm pistols-only sure lmao

or shotguns

cause i akimbo shotguns for the memes

[somber spire]

Am I allowed tjj on put a video in here that I found on tik tok

[modest tide]

yah yah haha got a mamut, best thing ever, was just curious on this

[strong iron]

does anyone haev the issue where sometimes you end up with a short right arm when letting go of your gun? I'm using a gunstock and have the gunstock calibrated in game to have the sights as close to my eyes as possible. The effect is that when I'm holding the rifles the right arm because super short, when release the rifle this doesn't always go away and I get stuck with a short arm

[royal wagon]

No, try deleting your savegame folder, check pins in #❓・questions for more details

[modest tide]

hahaha made me think of scary movie

[surreal quarry]

Only when I have to use a Luty mat48 ot mac10

[dull tinsel]

was my problem aswell, i tried to hold the stock too much "reallife like" i tiltet the guns up so my backhand is lower.

[long kite]

@fiery flicker @fiery flicker take my hand... my strong hand 😄

[fiery flicker]

What

[dire silo]

Anyone knows how to adjust the gunstock x axis angle alignment? I'm using magtube and it's offset to the right.

Is aiming the target on the wall there

[royal wagon]

you cannot, you need to adjust the magnet mount points outside a little bit

each one a little to the outside will do it

[jaunty tinsel]

Anyone tell me a good cheap gun stock

[visual sorrel]

Magni+ by glistco is basically the budget protube, around 80 USD

[pure crown]

Can't see anything about the calibration being fixed yet I'll give it a go anyway

[visual sorrel]

Scott said it would be in this update in the AMA but that could have changed behind the scenes before the patch launched

[pure crown]

Yeah I was listening to that aswell that's why I mentioned it but I'll give it a go, if it doesn't work its not the end of the world the standard settings seem to work with my diy gunstock

[pure crown]

Pvc pipe, a saw and a heat gun (heat gun not required I just used it for comfort)

Cost me about 7 gbp for the pipe and fittings

[compact mica]

Didnt understand, its little annoying, i got magtube and I always have a problem whatever I do with my right arm at the level of the butt, my arm is much shortened which means that I can no longer pick up anything after that, what is on the ground or even things in front Me

[thick hatch]

Had someone ask about a Mag compatible version of the AMVR grip, but also liked my newer QuickAim design/bend ..

So did a little work and now have both the newer QuickAim for the MagAim/Magstock system... And a Mag version compatible with the AMVR/Kiwi grips for Q3

[surreal quarry]

Work really great ?

[surreal quarry]

Wow dude. Can you send me your Cup stl for AMVR grip ?

[pure crown]

Yeah works just as good i think I've manged a 184 m shot on it.

Only thing that is annoying is the right controller has to be semi- permanently attached so you're waving round a pvc tube but works really really well

[surreal quarry]

You have to cut it at the middle, and create a magnet connectio' :m

[pure crown]

Now that's an idea! This is like version 6.0 so I've been slowly trying to figure out small improvements but I would say it's about 90 percent there

I was thinking of magnets in some spare grips I have but for now I just need to focus on killing campers and rats

[hard kraken]

That's my main concern

[surreal quarry]

You did 6 versions ? 😮
So not just 7$ for it !

[pure crown]

I say 6 versions ita more like version 1.6

All the same parts just as I saw stuff I cut bits off like the front used to be a pull and push system where I pushed the controller into the holder everytime in instead of the 'half pipe' system

And used to have it straight stock so i put a bend in it, stuff like that it had a cheek rest to start with but it got in the way so that was removed

But I did get 3ms of pvc for 4 quid and each joint was about 65p?

[surreal quarry]

I have to give a look

I will go to the shop tonight for try something like you

[pure crown]

So these were like what I was talking about

These were like the first versions and then I adapted to the game

[pure crown]

There are some YouTube videos on how to do it let me find them for you

[surreal quarry]

I will try alone, just take my controller at shop, cause i got AMVR grip and want fit with

I got a Heat Gun 😄

[pure crown]

Yeah that's fair loads of ideas of YouTube if you get stuck and let me know how it goes!

I just refused to buy one for like 60 quid when it's the same thing with 3d printed parts

I'm gunna dabble into some 3d printed parts whe I can be arsed but fir now works just fine

[surreal quarry]

Yes ! Thanks, i got a 3dprinter.
But need a lot more time than PVC tube. And it's cheaper, and more break risk

[lunar jacinth]

Anyone got a recommendation for a gunstock under $100? Not trying to scroll for hrs.

[pure crown]

Etsy does a load or diy

[proper cipher]

you can shape the pipe if you hold it over your stove as well, just gotta be careful not to get it smoking lol

[proper cipher]

build one from pvc pipe

dirt fucking cheap and actually not bad

[smoky leaf]

index compatible it looks like?

[thick hatch]

I have index compatible adapters in the QuickAim or Mag options.

https://MrTass3DPrintShop.etsy.com

I have not posted the Mag version of the AMVR... just the solid print.

[smoky leaf]

pretty much jus a stick?

does shipping even cost 21$?

[thick hatch]

Guessing International? What country?

If you, a friend, or something more local has access to a 3D Printer let me know.

[smoky leaf]

You'd be willing to share files?, that'ed be awsome!

I live in canada btw

[thick hatch]

International shipping is expensive and a PITA :/

DM'd

[compact mica]

help pls

[mellow ridge]

Any opinions on the wield vr stock that will be coming out?

[royal wagon]

not enough adjustment points

i dont think it will make for a good stock with tabor

[mellow ridge]

That’s a shame it seems so versatile do you think it just needs more points of adjustment rather than being a straight stock?

I just ordered the magni stock as my first one hopefully it’ll work well

[glad scroll]

I don't have a stock yet so I'm interested in your opinion:
Protube has a lot of adjustability, so you can use it with whatever gun and game.
But as more and more games get gunstock calibration (and expecting a better one for GOT), is it really that important now when playing these games?

To make the adjustments virtually instead of physically so to speak

[royal wagon]

do you want a stock that works with everything regardless of the limitations of the calibration system put in? or lack of one completely?

do you want to not buy another one again due to build quality?

one that is quick to adjust when necessary?

that you can customize to your body easily

calibration systems dont solve all problems

[glad scroll]

like which?

[uncut rapids]

He's going to tell you to buy the protube

[glad scroll]

If I have a gunstock that's perfect for me to hold, and the only adjustments needed are related to the virtual part, if it's adjustable with a gunstock calibration setting then it should work no?

[glad scroll]

*magtube

[uncut rapids]

Whatever it is

[glad scroll]

I'll soon have a 3d printer, and I plan on making a stock based out of this one (with cheek rest etc.). it will be perfect in terms of physical posture for me, but will have 0 adjustments to make it more solid (adjustments which I want to do through the calibration settings only)

and even for small guns like SMGs, where the non-dominant hand controller will be too far to grab the SMG, I can grip it the air then while holding it attach the controller further

what do you think?

[royal wagon]

small guns dont significantly change the requirements

no cheek rest on that

a cheek rest is good for bringing your gun to the correct position every time

if you have to search to get the position correct each time your stock is holding you back

[mellow ridge]

Any downsides to the magni stock +? Besides being fragile

[tepid nova]

Any gun stock suggestion for q3 , around 50 or something? Preferably not USA or China as I'm eu located

[royal wagon]

you'll want to ask some magni owners who upgraded to the magtube

i know build quality was mentioned to me a few times from the people i know who did that

[pure crown]

Diy stock for that price mate

Mine cost less than 10 to make

[glad scroll]

So a fixed cheek rest should help? Then adjust with the gunstock calibration so that your gun is at the correct position when using the cheek rest

(If the calibration permits it)

[rancid yew]

boys got any suggestions for good gunstocks for the quest 2 that are like, under 50 bucks

[digital shadow]

Anyone got a suggestions for your favorite printable stock for a quest 2? I don't mind paying for the files but I'm not about having a print ahipped

[royal wagon]

Yes, 4 points of contact means you can develop muscle memory to get your weapon into an accurate position every time

That’s how you can aim without looking

[topaz geyser]

@tepid nova check out @hollow zinc stocks, about 50 $ and super clean. Been looking at one myself

[visual sorrel]

Downsides are that it takes a bit to get set up correctly for Tabor, if you don't over tighten things you don't really need to worry about how fragile it is, the cups that interface with the magnets are a little too deep to attach quickly until you get used to your setup I plan on cutting them down about 3/4ths of an inch or even a little more to make them catch the magnets on the stock easier, those are pretty much all the downsides everything else about it is pretty nice highly recommend for a first or second gunstock to see if you personally like that style of gunstock if you do from there you either keep the magni or upgrade to the magtube, the magni is a good jumping in point without being super expensive

[mellow ridge]

Thanks a lot man really appreciate the feedback

[topaz geyser]

@tepid nova found a link https://www.etsy.com/shop/BrandoDrumVR?coupon=LANCOX10

[visual sorrel]

Np man

[tepid nova]

Which of the 6 he has got is a good idea ?

Don't get the differences there really

I think about the alpha version with right hand focus and fforgrip

Does the forgrip mean I get the 2nd controller in there ?

[sharp minnow]

not got one, anybody know a good one for meta 3?

[visual sorrel]

How much do you want to spend

[sharp minnow]

Probably £80

[visual sorrel]

Go with the magni+ by glistco

[glossy geyser]

Why is there a 1 minute wait time on the general chat

[dawn shale]

Works great

[royal wagon]

Why did you post that here? You are part of the problem

[glossy geyser]

The dogs are barking and need to get a muffled

[visual sorrel]

You didn't need to include those massive grippers 😭😭😭

[dawn shale]

Size 13

[visual sorrel]

Lorge

[dawn shale]

Buy it

[dire frost]

Just a heads up... I've ordered 2 Glistcos which I've had to send back because they both broke. Garbage product. Would not recommend

[glossy geyser]

I need to get a gunstock but the cheapest one is like $70 and I only make $50 a week and I’m saving for a car😔

Well it’s not really a necessity it more like a temptation

And I’m tempted to get one

But I’ll stay strong

[sacred charm]

I got the Tomhawk and its crazyyyy

[tropic furnace]

Ima get it since its My first time with a gunstock

I could just duck tape the slidey bit

[visual sorrel]

How did they break?

Did you over tighten them? Or hit it on something?

[dire frost]

Both at the stock where the set screw is. First one while using it, second one while putting it together

[visual sorrel]

So you over tightened it

[dire frost]

Probably. Still a poor design imo. Shouldn't have to be worried about over tightening a fucking set screw.. the point of them is to be tight

[visual sorrel]

3D printed you expected to just get strong on a plastic like that then be mad that it cracked

Yes the point of it is to get it tight to where it doesn't move clearly you went beyond that point twice

[dire frost]

Bro, get off my nuts.. just posting my two cents

It's cheap shit. You can't deny that

[visual sorrel]

You're saying something is bad because user error, It was your fault it broke both times no need to get zesty lol

[dire frost]

K

[royal wagon]

this issue got resolved in this patch

dont remember who the other person was

at least it is with the AWM which i tested

[topaz geyser]

@tepid nova I think it depends on what you want. The alpha is the smallest and allows for the most freedom of movement. I would recommend talking to the seller he’s very responsive and can help you decide what is best for your situation

[faint nest]

Is this a ok group chat to ask people if they would want to play

[royal wagon]

no, there is only one channel that is appropraite for that, it is #🤝・pvp-groupfinder

[modest tide]

id imagine the creators of tabor plan on making straight gunstocks work in this game given that they are going to release a straight gunstock called the raidr, even if it doeasnt completely mesg currently.

[glad scroll]

True

[modest tide]

for sure, this game is changing almost weekly, some of those changes being pretty major so I wouldnt be so caught up with a stock not working perfectly for now.

[dawn shale]

Anyone else think the update for calibration fixing is gonna drop when the official stock does

[astral kiln]

any1 got good stock for rift s?

[normal grove]

amazing

[spiral torrent]

You won’t be able to load a mag into most of the rifles in GoT. Just letting you know cuz I tried it, it doesn’t work.

[flint compass]

Why does my height need recalibrate after every raid it’s annoying it makes me very same

Small

[normal grove]

do you have playspace mover on?

[blissful isle]

I will say again about reloading. I can absolutely reload with my primary hand still locked in. You just have to tilt the angle a bit until you see the mag start to slide in and then it will go no problem

[pure crown]

chad feet

[swift goblet]

Good gunstock 100$ top

@faint halo sorry for the ping I was just wondering if I could what a good gunsto k would be for speed and precision 100$ tops, and I'm sorry again for the ping and if I wasn't suppose to ping you!

[faint halo]

I'm waiting on my Raidr because I love breakaways but I use a protube atm.

which is out of that range. I'd just wait for the Raidr. Worth.

[swift goblet]

What about an istock are they good?

[glad scroll]

Do we have an idea when it will be available?

[swift goblet]

R I socks good?

[paper silo]

Anyone have experience with the Ultibrace?

Just purchased one from @hollow zinc, super excited to get it and try it out.

[hollow zinc]

I'm having to pause the shop for the weekend to catch up on orders and I'm headed out of town. But feel free to ping me if you're interested and I'll let you know when I get back!

[compact mica]

Anyone can help me of this please?

[faint halo]

Never tried it’s not a “full stick” iirc

[faint halo]

Not exactly but hopefully soon! 🙂

[visual sorrel]

They are okay but you really only benefit when using pistols, mangi+ is the closest you'll get to a protube for under 100

[swift goblet]

How come they arnt good like what's the down side for ar's etc

[visual sorrel]

No front hand stability which means your barrel will float slightly one way or another causing missed shots

[swift goblet]

So what would be good

[visual sorrel]

Multiple attachment points

That are adjustable

[swift goblet]

Could I get the link for magni+ cause I can't find it

[visual sorrel]

Just search it on Amazon

[frigid breach]

Sorry to tag you here, but I guess my question might be relevant to some. What's the main consideration when deciding between the various models. Would height be the main factor?

[hollow zinc]

Yup, I'm actually going to change the listings a bit to make more sense. It's really just small (alpha), regular (bravo) vs XL size (Charlie) and the attachments then are a bit more straightforward

And I'm retiring alpha size I think. I figured out how to make small and medium one in the same.

[placid bobcat]

that would save alot for filaments 🙂

[visual sorrel]

Games showing I have both hands gripping my rifle, when I shoot recoils into oblivion, has anyone else said this issue while using a gun stock?

Has happened to me a couple times, most of the time I can tame the recoil until this bug happens and my rifle goes into the sky like I was one handing it

[royal wagon]

Got a clip? I played a round earlier and everything went as normal

Super smoothly even with the perf tuning that has happened

[visual sorrel]

I don't but I can try to recreate it tomorrow I'm not sure what causes it but I will do some testing

[red obsidian]

Good gun stock for under $50?

[late geode]

Why does tabor not line up correctly? i have to raise my left hand so high to line up my shot. i use virtual gunstock and gunstock calibration and its all still broken. no other game has this issue.

[surreal quarry]

Are gunstocks messed up for anyone else after this update?

My gun seems to sit weird now

[royal wagon]

guns have different shapes

the location of your hand will vary depending upon how that guns shape requires you to put your hands

read the pin in this channel with an extensive guide on how to use the gunstock calibration to try to adjust it the way you want, but you cannt fundamentally alter the guns shape, just change the offsets so it fits in your main firing hand differently

[jaunty magnet]

Dude

How th do I remove the top part on an Olen vr spine

Can someone please help?

[dawn shale]

Who is this

[late geode]

@red obsidian this
https://istockgaming.com

@dawn shale this is a clip I made?

@royal wagon no way, it's way off for that explanation to make sense. When I do Gunstock calibration my hands are still crazy different in elevation. To aim the gun straight I have to put my hands at a 45° angle which makes no sense.
No other game suffers from this problem

[dawn shale]

Why you questioning your clip wherever it is

[late geode]

@dawn shale I was having an issue with lining up my hands using Gunstock calibration. It seems like any gun I use I have to put my hands at a 45° angle just to aim straight. My hands don't align at all. Any option I use does not fix it

@dawn shale The video showed how silly my hands look because of this issue

[dawn shale]

Does you stock look like that angled?

[late geode]

@dawn shale It's similar, but any other shooter does not have this issue. I feel like it makes the gunplay feel really off

@dawn shale contractors and breachers and Vail all lineup perfectly with my hands and I can have them basically lined up. This game I have to hold it at the strangest angle just to aim straight

I really can't understand why no one else is dealing with this issue. It makes the game unplayable for me

[dawn shale]

Maybe I have same thing going on?

[untold star]

Use callibration And change angle

Look up there to Pins and watch video

[leaden ginkgo]

for free?

[proud hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/free-gif-25457148

dammit

[royal wagon]

like i said previously, different guns have different shapes. You were using an AKM, take a look at where the hand model in game for the foregrip and the hand model in game for the pistol grip are, your front hand is higher than your rear hand

this game has highly accurate modeled hand<->controller position for the gun

so this is working as designed and intended, and wont be changing

if you want a straighter gun, try an m4 with a foregrip, that puts things much closer in line

as mentioned previously, gunstock calibration does not alter the base geometry of the gun, just the offsets as to where the guns height, depth or initial rotation before your front hand grabs it

your front hand does look a bit higher than normal, but only by a little. did you buy the game on the Oculus store and are using Virtual Desktop? If so thats why

thats an unsupported combination, and hand offsets being slightly off is one of the symptoms

[late geode]

@royal wagon good picture example! It just feels really weird in game. You are right the m4 does feel way better. I use airlink and steam.

This is one feature in the game that stops me from playing sadly 😦
It feels really hard to aim when my hands are unaligned.

[royal wagon]

i think your problem is exacerbated by how far out your front hand is, and the design of your "gunstock"

you are in a very, very small group that is complaining about this particular problem in the way that you are

i could add a few more very's if it helped get the point across

[late geode]

@royal wagon it feels just as bad without the Gunstock tho

[royal wagon]

thats a limitation of your gunstock

[late geode]

Even free hand it feels way out of line tho

[royal wagon]

that is not a common design, most people use ones that do not have that kind of limitation

there are lots of people with different gunstock designs that have lots of playtime and dont complain about this issue

this issue is very much a you + gunstock design issue

if you pulled your front hand in more, you would probably find it feels a bit more natural, but would lose the tension

if you can reduce the length of the string to get some tension back, you might find it a little better

[late geode]

This is the only game with this issue sadly

[royal wagon]

understood but irrelevant

[late geode]

I can that

[royal wagon]

its not an issue with the game, its an issue with your gunstock

[late geode]

But it feels bad without the Gunstock 😂

Same weird angles

[royal wagon]

i agree, but i dont use one with such limitations

and guns feel fine to me

[late geode]

Going from contractors or breachers is weird because guns don't feel lined up

[royal wagon]

sure, the geometry of the guns are a bit different than that game, and different between guns

[normal grove]

I try not to play any other shooter when using gunstocks

[royal wagon]

so you have to adapt

[glass marsh]

7 bulletproof vests and 3 helmets were missing; they were given to Minty. Is it possible to return this equipment or you can forget it?

[late geode]

I'm gonna stick with it being bad gun design honestly. No other VR game has this issue. Wish I liked Tabor

[royal wagon]

wrong channel for that question, but i'll save you asking somewhere else. nothing ever gets given back for any reason whatsoever. the game is in beta, bugs are expected. better luck next time

the gun design is accurate though, its just different than what you are used to

[late geode]

To much "realism" I guess

[royal wagon]

given the popularity of this game, i hope you realize this is pretty much a 'you' issue

you dont like the gun geometry? ok, its different, but most people adapted just fine

[glad scroll]

Not just him, I don't think you can base the success of the whole game only on the gun alignement.
There are a lot of things that need some tweaking and polishing in Tabor and that's one of them, but so many other aspects of the game make it still worth it to play. Currently I free hand and the way I put my hands physically, be it with or without virtual stock, don't correspond at all where the gun is virtually, compared to all other VR shooters I play. It feels off.
But I'm optimistic about a fix since the RAIDR will be straight, they'll have to tweak the gun alignement in game otherwise a straight stock like RAIDR will be missaligned

[royal wagon]

Don’t compare the way other games inaccurately have you hold the controllers to this game

[lethal sinew]

I use the FreedomStockVR and it looks similar to the RAIDR. There's adjustments you can make on the fly with the grip angle physically.

I can play the game without gunstock calibrating at all so I don't think it'll factor into development.

Latest AMA, Scott did mention that Elijah is working on calibration and that it's coming soon so there's hope

[glad scroll]

Also I like to reload with my dominant hand, and keep holding the gun straight, but everytime I do this it teleports to another angle which is very frustrating, also only happens in this game, since open beta too

[royal wagon]

Did you play today’s patch? That doesn’t happen anymore

[glad scroll]

Wait lemme check

No it still happens

Compared to pavlov for example:

[royal wagon]

reset your hand pitch rotation offset to 0

it doesnt do that for me, i just booted up and tested

gun stays exactly as it was when i let go with my firing hand

if that doesnt work delete your savegame

if it still does it after that, file a bug

i only have pcvr to test with

[glad scroll]

I have the issue also on pcvr, and I believe also tried with handpitch on 0, but I will verify that later today

[royal wagon]

This is a new change as of this version

It may have something to do with the rotation set in gunstock calibration

I set mine to be in line with the front hand location

[visual sorrel]

I'm going to test that issue I told you about last night I'll return with a video if I can recreate it on purpose @royal wagon

[compact mica]

Didnt understand, its little annoying, i got magtube and I always have a problem whatever I do with my right arm at the level of the butt, my arm is much shortened which means that I can no longer pick up anything after that, what is on the ground or even things in front Me

[visual sorrel]

I could not recreate this in training or a live match on purpose maybe it was because of lag?

[blissful isle]

This is normally because on calibration you aligned the butt of the gun too far into your shoulder. This is most often done so the player can have their eye closer to the sight than normal. It shortens your main hand when you ads so that the gyn is closer and then your arm stays that way

[inland plover]

My own flare to the DIY Poor Man Gunstock! Been using this for the longest time and will not play FPS without it!

https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o?si=UKqi2cl1XAT7ZG6b

No joke, it gave me perfect aim when pulling up the gun in game and the stability makes it seem as if you are really holding the gun in your hands. Locked in place when connected, but able to pull them apart at any time to have free hand movement.

[lucid grove]

I found an alternative to a gunstock that helped make me more accurate and immersed. I bought Kiwi Design's Controller weights to emulate some form of a weight like a weapon in your hand it helped me feel more immersed and helped counteract the forces the controllers have on my hand allowing me to hold my aim more steady.

[royal wagon]

Which issue?

[visual sorrel]

Visually gripping the foreend but the game only registers your rear grip

[royal wagon]

Oh yeah, I think that got fixed? You can’t grab a gun by just the front anymore I think

[inland trench]

anybody still having issues with gunstock calibration? I just tried and it was waaaaay off

[royal wagon]

gunstock calibration works, you just need to use it the right way, check the pins for an extensive guide on how to use it and a video that demonstrates the process

[placid bobcat]

i laughed no one check pinned since its keep asking why its way off. i always look pin before post anything

[royal wagon]

approximately 90% of discord users have no idea what pins are

[placid bobcat]

its appear red dot i cant missed it lol

[royal wagon]

i dont count on it being something that is always checked

[inland trench]

I apprciate the tute saq but I would argue that it's a bit silly that you should have to calibrate in this way

[royal wagon]

i didnt make any opinion related statements, just statements of fact

if you have a suggestion on how to improve it, take a look at #1180985753136812042

[long kite]

Does anyone know If the magtube quest 2 joystick holders work with the quest 3 joysticks? Someone has just sold me the protube magtube and told me they do.

[royal wagon]

its not quite the same, plus q2 cups cover up the lower LED on the controller

however, you can buy q3 controller cups for the magtube and pop them on

[long kite]

Thank you. That's a little annoying. He lied to me 😄 I will have to buy the cups I quess. Do they post to England 🇬🇧

[royal wagon]

yes, they ship globally quickly and cost effectively

you can probably get by with the q2 cups, but defintiely get the q3 cups

[long kite]

Yes just on the website now. I agree not a bad price. Thank you

[long kite]

The left hand is not near the gun. Like you said i will get the new mounts. Thank you

[long kite]

Managed to get it to kinda work. Feels very hard to set up does the magtube. I am very confident with the calibration in game. But taking me ages to set up. So it feels comfy for me in real life

[royal wagon]

the best strategy imo, is setup the magtube to be comfortable to your body (rear hand angle and position relative to the butt/cheek rest angle), then adjust the front hand to be close enough you can make front tube adjustments up and down easily

then make minimal adjustments to the class via gunstock calibration to get the elevation and distance tuned in, and adjust the default rotation so its automatically near your front hand

[pure crown]

Whats the best gunstock for tabor?

[royal wagon]

magtube

[long kite]

Could you send a general pic of how it looks. Would be easier to see it. Rather than visualise it. If it makes sense

[royal wagon]

check the video

its in the pin

[long kite]

I have watched it. Thank you 🙂

[royal wagon]

ive got some videos you can get the link to in my twitch channel if you type in !magtube that cover more of the setup stuff ive developed

[round plinth]

Anyone know a good gunstock for the quest 3? Not sure which one to get

[long kite]

Yes found then a few hours ago and gave them a watch. Was a good starting point. Thank you 🙂 just used your video as a starting point. And then I just tweaked it for me. A little uncomfortable but my aim is spot on. That's all that matters

[royal wagon]

The goal should definitely be leaving you comfy, how is it uncomfortable

[normal grove]

should feel amazing

[keen dragon]

anyone got any suggestions for my first gun stock?

[spring venture]

my length of pull is short but if i go any longer on the front hand im unable to grab the m4 while my controllers are locked in

its nice to be able to do that given how grabbing guns without a foregrip attached is currently

[royal wagon]

your length of pull doesnt need to determine the front hand position

for optimal tabor use i brought my front hand in a bit closer than usual

[surreal quarry]

@royal wagon I have some questions ! Can you play all the weapons without having to physically modify your Magtube? I mean different 'categories.' And does adding a vertical grip not change the situation either?
Moreover... I'm starting to get interested. Does magnetizing make too much noise? I play when my family is asleep."

[royal wagon]

1: no, but this is one of the magtubes great strengths. you can adjust the front tube up and down as necessary to adapt to this games varied gun geometry

theres a video ive posted on here showing switching between 3 weapons in less than 8 seconds

2: a vertical grip does change the gun geometry, same solution

3: the magnets are not very loud, they barely get picked up by my index mics. if you arent in the same room as anyone asleep you will be fine

[surreal quarry]

Thanks @royal wagon ! Where can i find this video ?

[royal wagon]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[surreal quarry]

Perfect thanks you

[royal wagon]

there were claims of "world fastest" gunstock that did not look very fast to me, someone wanted me to prove it so i did

[surreal quarry]

@royal wagon So you don't tighten it all the way to be able to do it live?

[royal wagon]

yep

thats the point

with a friction disc inside and an oring you can get it plenty tight enough you'll never do it accidentally but can easily change it when you want to

[surreal quarry]

Without damaging the product? Are the black cups made of carbon? Is that useful?

[spring venture]

Hey rage saq i tried my new magtube with the extra joint and tube in the rear. And reloading works perfect with the famas but still perfect with the other guns in pavlov. Idk if you play that game. But before i made the upgrade i was forced to do extreme gunstock calibration angles in pavlov to make it possible to get the gun far enough away from the rear tube to reload the famas

And extreme gunstock calibration angles make holding it feel less immersive

So its a huge positive

[spring venture]

Imo the raidr is gonna be the worlds fastest

That is until its time to switch to a different gun or put on a different grip

[surreal quarry]

This is sick.. but it cost the same as a protube

Hold on. Just saw the vid you linked was the same one

[distant tree]

is this good

i think it has 100 mag

[uncut rapids]

Can confirm the Magni-Stock Mini is wonderful for this game

[vernal lance]

That is an ak alpha one of the best guns in the game

[dawn shale]

You’re telling me I’ve picked this gun up and threw it out multiple times without knowing?

[vernal lance]

I’d say so

[dawn shale]

Atleast 7 times past week I’ve picked it up and didn’t bring it

[vernal lance]

Dang

[royal wagon]

Yeah, that’s the “worlds fastest” slow gimmicky stock

[spring venture]

rage saq do you like my famas mod

[surreal quarry]

When I first saw it it looked great but not $150 great

[royal wagon]

This is what it’s designed to do

[royal wagon]

No, it’s overly complicated and looks uncomfortable and I can reload bullpups just fine without that

[surreal quarry]

What stock do you use

[royal wagon]

Magtube

[spring venture]

ngl its pretty dang uncomfortable

[royal wagon]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[surreal quarry]

Ah I want to get that but I’m stuck between the Raider or that

For when it releases

[royal wagon]

Magtube easy win

[spring venture]

dont you prefer being able to reload without having to come into contact with the tube

[royal wagon]

I don’t really have that problem?

[spring venture]

right im just wondering

[royal wagon]

My main gun in onward 7 years ago was the aug

For a while

[spring venture]

are you saying you dont touch the tube

[royal wagon]

Not really

[spring venture]

you must reload a bit off to the left of where the magwell actually is. or you must insert it from a slight angle then

[surreal quarry]

@royal wagon would you say the carbon tubes on the magni are a must? Just looking for some extra insight for when I decide to get it

[royal wagon]

Magtube? Yes

[surreal quarry]

Yeah

I have a magni rn so I got the names mixed up

[royal wagon]

Last gunstock you’ll own

[surreal quarry]

230€ 😭

[distant tree]

K thanks

[median field]

is gunstock calibration busted? It feels like it only works when in hideout, it's resetting to default every time I enter a raid or go to the market

[royal wagon]

Delete your savegame

Gunstock calibration works fine

[surreal quarry]

For what? The protube?

[surreal quarry]

What’s the difference with these 2 options

[royal wagon]

Original stock is fixed, adjustable stock lets you slide it up and down the mount

[surreal quarry]

Ah

[royal wagon]

I have both, using the mk2 right now

It’s the same shape as the mk1, it helps when it’s designed properly the first time

But some people might find the height adjustments helpful

[surreal quarry]

Thanks

If I do end up getting it im just gonna get the standard with the carbon tubes

Then upgrade it later on

[surreal quarry]

Yes with carbon

[royal wagon]

I like the shape on the cheek rest of the mk2 more, it’s more angled instead of rounded so it’s taller, kinda locks into the cheek weld spot faster and more consistently

[blissful igloo]

@royal wagon how many gunstocks do you own?

[royal wagon]

Difficult to answer question

I have one main one that I use, a Magtube in full carbon

I also have many prototype parts from protube, and an old pvc one I used for a few days before ordering a protube in 2016

[blissful igloo]

do you perhaps own the iStock?

[royal wagon]

I could probably scrounge up a cv1 and quest 1 Magtube from all the different part revisions I have

I don’t and I wouldn’t

[blissful igloo]

elaborate

[royal wagon]

That’s not a design that is of any interest to me, extremely, extremely limited benefits and it has a reputation of being extremely fragile

[blissful igloo]

hmm, appreciate you
what would you recommend to a user without any previous gunstock experience?

[royal wagon]

Magtube in full carbon

No hesitation

[blissful igloo]

bias?

[royal wagon]

If there was a better gunstock I’d use it

[blissful igloo]

kind of an expensive option, but ill keep my eye on it

[royal wagon]

Buy nice cry once

[upper urchin]

Is there much of a difference between the carbon and chrome tubes?

[blissful igloo]

wallet cries are permanent sometimes

[winged portal]

So, magtube for pico 4 works well on this game? i bought the sanlaki one but on pico 4 it doesnt work in GoT due to th ealing between controllers

[pure crown]

I just bought the protube and I been had the mag tube by glisco and the glisco is lighter easily adjustable and better feeling than the protube and costs 3x less mag tube by glisco it the way to go

[spring venture]

Glisco only has one pivot point on the tubes

Protube has 2 and you can buy extras

Glisco doesnt sell extra tubes

But that being said it looks to me like a good alternative to protube

I mean a cheap alternative. Not a good one

Theres no good alternative to the magtube thats for sale

But you could make something custom that is better with magtube parts

Magtube pretty much does it all in terms of immersion. But you could go one step further and make it feel more like a rifle

Theres a pretty big drawback on all gunstocks in that using bolt action rifles feels awkward

But you could just not use the gunstock when you want to use a bolt action gun. Pretty inconvienent but not out of the question

[royal wagon]

you can use your main hand for reloading now

rifle stays in the same position it was held when you let go with your main hand

[pure crown]

I was sent here on how to properly setup gunstock. Last time I tried I couldnt use any guns in raid otherwise the calibration went out the window.

[royal wagon]

you can only run a calibration in safehouse

check the pin in this channel on how to use it

[pure crown]

What I meant was I could only use one gun aligned proper, if I pick up any other gun in raid its back to being misaligned.

I checked pin

[royal wagon]

non adjustable stock?

do you frequently change weapons mid raid? been a long time since i needed to do that

[pure crown]

For the most part yes, if I use a hunter for a challenge and then swap to m4 afterwards etc.

[royal wagon]

those are two different weapon classes

[pure crown]

I can slide my front controller up and down but its janky and meant to be tightened to 1 position

[royal wagon]

you should be able to calibrate both

[pure crown]

And i calibrated them both in calibrator to work

[royal wagon]

one is bolt action, the other is AR

if you did it right they would both have their own alignment

[pure crown]

Im assuming thats why I have to delete the settings file?

Because it resets my calibration?

[royal wagon]

not a bad idea

[pure crown]

Ill follow your pin thx.

[pure crown]

Oh yea that reminds me why I gave up on gunstock entirely. Any grip additions or removals to a weapon required a recalibration. Thats not a bug right? Since its changing your gripping location

[royal wagon]

Correct, the idea is you setup calibration for the guns you use 99% of the time

And many of the weapons have similar calibrations

Like my AR calibration works for m4, ak5c, galil, scar, ak alpha, tapco sks

[pure crown]

Gotcha, you sacrifice dynamic play for a more secure gun platform

I was misunderstanding the way gunstock worked on this game

[royal wagon]

The gunstock calibration is a change in the offset of the gun class

Its an optimization, not a replacement for a gunstock with adjustability

[winged nest]

Gib onward gunstock calibration. That shit is based

[worldly pecan]

Did anyone already tried the got gun stock? looking to get one and wonder if this is a good option

[lethal sinew]

Not available yet. No one has it.

[worldly pecan]

ah got it thanks

[nocturne lotus]

Soon™️

[pure crown]

What is this chat about

[dawn shale]

Glistco on top

[proud hedge]

my glistco broke immediately and they didn refund me or send me a new one

the butt of the stock also wouldnt stay at a certain height

[dawn shale]

Legit? Was it an old model

[proud hedge]

It was like a year and a half ago but yeah

the part the strap hangs onto also snapped so I had to tie it around the stock itself

i think i still have it somewhere lol

[dawn shale]

Damn

[placid bobcat]

Oh strap is cheap?

[stable wave]

Does anyone know if the i stock Vr gunstock is worth it ???

[royal wagon]

my opinion is no, the benefits it offers are very, very minimal and i have heard many reports of the fragility of it

[hallow depot]

anyone know if this is a good vr gunstock?

[royal wagon]

i know a lot of people who had one of those and then upgraded to a magtube

[hallow depot]

alr ima get it and see how i like it and then if i do ill upgrade

[royal wagon]

in my opinion, buy it right the first time

[hallow depot]

ye true but if its uncomfortable using a gunstock (for me) then i wouldnt want to buy one thats even more expensive

^ and they are out of stock for the valve index lmao

[royal wagon]

a good gunstock can be customized to your body, it should make it extremely comfortable

[manic swan]

and this was huge to be honest. i find i am fumbling alot less now trying to reload

[modest tide]

mamut apto wasp is the best, especially for index

its is fairly expensive though, it will work with any game!

[rare osprey]

I'm having a hard time finding the menu for calibration, is it on screen in your bunker?

[royal wagon]

yes, its under settings, third menu entry

[rare osprey]

thank you 🙂

[hexed tundra]

is magtube worth it? for GoT

like hows calibration

[surreal quarry]

It seems like it

I’m thinking of getting one soon

[royal wagon]

1000%

[hexed tundra]

Whats the calibration like

[royal wagon]

easy

ive got some videos on the subject

[hexed tundra]

ah for got or in general

[royal wagon]

both

[hexed tundra]

ah could i get the ones for got?

actually i'll take em both if you don't mind lol

[hexed tundra]

are you able to send em here or will it be dms?

[royal wagon]

type in !magtube on my twitch page and you'll see them

[fading leaf]

Made a poor man's gunstock

[hexed tundra]

@royal wagon does chrome tubes have a chance to mess with the quest 2s sensors?

And what's the difference between the slings?

[royal wagon]

I don’t think so, but the carbon fiber is better anyways, less slippery easier to get it in place. I started with chrome and upgraded to carbon later. also a lot lighter.

[hexed tundra]

Gotcha, is the bipod any good?

[royal wagon]

Shrug. Never needed it

[hexed tundra]

Gotcha

[royal wagon]

This game doesn’t have the range that would make that make any sense

[hexed tundra]

Does it not?

[royal wagon]

The only thing I could slightly justify it for is the 4km map on gun world

[hexed tundra]

What actually is the limit on render distance

[royal wagon]

No, your engagement ranges are max 300m due to render distance, though 100-200 is more typical, there are few 200m+ spots

250 is not hard to hit without a zoom scope or bipod

[hexed tundra]

Gotcha

What other games do you reccommend that work well with a gunstock?

[royal wagon]

Every single fps shooter made

[hexed tundra]

Any in specific I mean lol

[royal wagon]

There’s no such thing as a shooter that isn’t better with a gunstock

[hexed tundra]

I'm lookin for some games

[royal wagon]

This is the only shooter I play atm, none of them interest me anymore

[hexed tundra]

Ah

Thanks for the help though

[grim tartan]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/937010042/

Thoughts?

[viral aurora]

big w

[fading leaf]

Thanks also made a semi scrappy front grip for my other hand

[viral aurora]

i gotta make that fr

[fading leaf]

the dude in the video used some sort of packing tape but i used duck tape for a bit more security and this one is one i made for my friend as his christmas gift

[umbral swan]

where are your wrist straps

[fading leaf]

i rermoved them, since i bought some handgrips that is a controllerr cover, but they would fit so i took it off

[uneven breach]

DONT BUY A STOCK ITS NOT WORTH IT

[fading leaf]

Go on

[proven silo]

any of yall recommend a gun stock that is good but can like easily remove the controller to pick up items and stuff

[mighty shard]

the GoT official gunstock can do that lol

[proven silo]

can you send the link if you can

[mighty shard]

https://ghostsoftabor.com/shop/

[proven silo]

70$😭

ill get it for my birthday

[devout valve]

Is the magtube any good?

[royal wagon]

extremely good

[visual sorrel]

I'm constantly having my gun recoil like I'm one handing it now

[steady siren]

raidr already out of stock D:

Ill stick with no stock till then I guess

[visual sorrel]

Hasn't released yet

[steady siren]

Gotcha gotcha, Also idk if this would be a good place to mention this, but quest 3 reloading certain pistols is near impossible without actually grinding the controllers together lol

[visual sorrel]

I have a quest 3 and don't have that issue, just put the tip of the mag in and release it should go right in

[steady siren]

Oh bet, I've been tryna slide it all the way could just need some getting used to ( first vr headset )

[visual sorrel]

Yeah like a quarter of the mag needs to go in and you're good to go

[timber snow]

I'm loving my protubeVR gunstock. Magnetic detachable controllers. It's not the cheapest but really good

[hardy osprey]

9 more days till Tabor stock release.

[surreal quarry]

True ?

[hardy osprey]

According to Scott’s statement

[surreal quarry]

Oooof, i hope they will ship fast in EU :p

[glad scroll]

From Mamut (the gunstock manufacturer):
"All orders ship from Sweden"
So it should be fast in EU

[surreal quarry]

Thanks for it ! 🙂

[vocal ginkgo]

Congrats on passing the boa test spade

[brave vessel]

Anyone know what happened to FreedomStock?

[mighty shard]

thanks brother

[vocal ginkgo]

Anytime bro

[frosty ferry]

What's a good stock? My price range is around $150, I need a cheek rest, I want it to work well, reload well, and just be good overall

[royal wagon]

magtube

[topaz geyser]

@hardy osprey you have a link for cws gunstock?

[hardy osprey]

https://ghostsoftabor.com/product/tabor-raidr/

[topaz geyser]

Thanks boss @hardy osprey

[modest tide]

look up the gecko stock on etsy, same thing

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1419499440/trident-20-vr-gunstock-meta-oculus-quest?click_key=db1761948c782ad1e11dc03b306871f450e43894%3A1419499440&click_sum=ff2635d3&ref=shop_home_feat_1

[hardy osprey]

It’s not

[inner shoal]

Is the raidr not out yet? Not able to add it to cart

[royal wagon]

it is not

[inner shoal]

This is why I can't have nice things

I currently have an olen spine stock. It's alright... the magnets ar2 good. But I hate the cheap 3d printed look and feel

[ebon ridge]

honestly i dont like how the raidr is. i would like something more like protube or the magni gun stock

[inner shoal]

At least on a 3d printed setup, I don't feel bad printing my own attachments like a cheek rest lol

[ebon ridge]

lol if i spend 70 dollar i better get a cheek rest lol

[inner shoal]

You would think so...

Anyone try or have thoughts on forcetube? (From protube)

[royal wagon]

inappropriate for this channel, the only appropriate channel for that on the entire server is #🤝・pvp-groupfinder

[tranquil stag]

Having issues with my magtube. If I don't grab my guns for grip before clicking into the stock it drops my gun

[royal wagon]

thats a controller issue

[tranquil stag]

Only in tabor?

[royal wagon]

stocks dont have anything to do with holding onto guns in this game

or any game

[inner shoal]

That sounds frustrating. Does it make a difference if you switch to hold instead of tap grip?

Sounds like when you are grabbing, you are tapping grip, which may be toggling your setting

I use the hold grip option for iimmersion, and it would probably help with that issue too

[tranquil stag]

If I'm holding grip when I clip in I don't have this issue. IV made sure I'm clear of the grip button all together but even if I was catching the grip button it should drop the gun being that it's my left hand clipping in, I'm not sure if it's some kind of clipping issue in the game. I also seem to have the watch cycle on its own when I'm hands up both on the gun stock while ads

[royal wagon]

the watch cycle thing has been patched out

that just happened because thats the position rifles put your hands in

a grabbing issue is not related to gunstocks, if you are having dropping issues and you arent hitting buttons on your controller by accident you have a failing controller

[tranquil stag]

Strange. Basically new quest 3 controller and I'm not seeing the issue on Pavlov or onward also don't have the issue when not using a gun stock

[surreal quarry]

With BrandonDrumVR model.
3 points of stability. Hands-free, incredible for GoT.
Downside, slightly heavy...
But $10.

[tranquil stag]

Also don't have the issue if I grip the front stock or grip attachment before clicking into the stock

[surreal quarry]

Actually Brandron don't reply to my question about AMVR compatible Cup. So have to do myself xL

[royal wagon]

ah, i think the tapping is causing the controllers to flip into hand tracking mode which lets go of your inputs

theres an option somewhere to disable that

[tranquil stag]

That's a good call. Will try that tomorrow

[royal wagon]

bad design on quests part

[tranquil stag]

Tempting to go for the pro controller but not sure if they are actually any better

[royal wagon]

well, they will have proper tracking

[inner shoal]

Sounds like your controller is somehow registering the grasp of the controller mount cup as a trigger pull. Sounds more like a controller issue

If it's really tight, it may somehow be pressing the inner workings of the grip sensor?

[tranquil stag]

Neither of the triggers being pulled on the left hand controller would result in a weapon drop

[inner shoal]

Sorry man, don't know own what other options to suggest 😦 may the odds be ever in your favor

[tranquil stag]

Going to try turning off hand tracking options but will probably go with the pro controllers after Christmas is out of the way

[sour fossil]

I have one and love it. Highly recommended for immersion, and it works flawlessly with GoT

[winged portal]

https://exact3d.co.uk/product/vr-hs-pico-4-vr-gunstock/ What do you thing guys about this gunstock?

[modest tide]

you can literally get the same exat thing with a split in the middle i promise you this isnt the first design like this. lol

[lethal sinew]

Discontinued

[modest tide]

you get this figured out? was it hand piutch?

[hardy osprey]

Yea but the specific one you linked isn’t it

[modest tide]

im surprised more people dont have the mamut apto given that everyone wants the raidir haha mamut is the best stock hands down!

[deep stag]

What would be a good gun stock for 120?

[royal wagon]

you are in magtube price territory, thats the go to

[deep stag]

Ok thanks

[acoustic umbra]

Can someone please post a video of using a gun stock in game Im trying to see some crazy aim

[royal wagon]

i can probably find one easily

https://clips.twitch.tv/ClumsyTastyTireNononoCat-68n7s5RLP-8RioKj 250m

not too many spots you can regularly see people 250m+

[acoustic umbra]

Yippee

[snow kelp]

Anyone got any reccomendations for index gunstocks?

[royal wagon]

Magtube

[snow kelp]

Magtube?

I'll look into it, thank you ^^

[modest tide]

mamut apto wasp is the best for the index, has the variable option of top or bottom mount

i also have a designf or a nice 3d printed one if you know someone witha printer, dm me and i can get those to you!1

[pure crown]

I will say that the mag tube is one of the best 3 points of contact stock for it’s price point

[grizzled gulch]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1401164389/elite-vr-rifle-gunstock-quest-1-quest-2

Has anyone used this gun stock?

[glossy path]

My gunstock doesn’t align with the controllers, so when I calibrate the stock in game I would have to angle the game calibration weapon to the left for it to be accurate. I can’t seem to figure out how to do that or straighter out the controllers on the magnetic part

Can someone help me please ?

[royal wagon]

Gunstock calibration doesn’t make horizontal changes

You’ll need to adjust your gunstock connection points

[steep orbit]

I use that exact stock, its a little weird great with all other shooters. Tabor you gotta mess with it and aim slightly up I made a video about it somewhere in here

[earnest pawn]

You all disgust me

[mystic spear]

does anyone recomend the GOT gunstock

[swift nebula]

Nobody knows yet. It isn't out

[solemn owl]

"A true duelist can shape the outcome of a duel they can even generate the very card they need to draw..."

https://tenor.com/view/yu-gi-oh-zexal-yugioh-zexal-ii-yuma-tsukumo-shining-draw-gif-27658006

"GO! SHINING DRAW!"

[oblique furnace]

Is anyone using the Tabor raidr gunstock?

[broken sequoia]

I’m pretty sure it’s not out

[oblique furnace]

Ohh gotcha. I saw an "add to cart" link on the site but it appears to just take you to the info of the product

[tranquil stag]

You were correct. Shut down the hand tracking options on the quest and i havent had any issues since

[winged nest]

Any news or noise related to them reworking physical gunstock calibration?

[topaz geyser]

I’m fairly sure the raidr is going to be made by mamut right?

[glad scroll]

It is

[celest lance]

With gunstocks can i only use it on 1 type of gun

[royal wagon]

no, i use all guns

[celest lance]

Cool so like it keeps the gun straighter?

[royal wagon]

it lets you use the gun like you would irl

[celest lance]

And how much would one run u

[royal wagon]

get a magtube, its the go to gunstock

[celest lance]

Alr thanks

116 euros !!!???

[royal wagon]

5000% worth it

theres a saying, buy nice cry once

ive gotten about 7 years of excellent use out of mine

[celest lance]

Jeeecust

I'll prob think about it

Get better at the game and stuff

[topaz geyser]

@celest lance I’ve been eyes this one for a few weeks. Raving reviews let me find you a link. It’s made by @hollow zinc. He’s currently got the shop down because he got so many orders for Christmas but will reopen when he catches up on orders. My guess is he’s trying to get all the current orders out for Christmas. Here’s the link https://www.etsy.com/shop/BrandoDrumVR?coupon=LANCOX10

Also it’s only 50$

I have the mag tube, I haven’t been able to get used to the magnets yet they slow me down too much. This other one I’ve posted has an arm brace so you can be very accurate but you have freedom of movement not being locked in

[celest lance]

Alr thanks can't prob get it bc of the shipping, i live in europe so customs would be too much lol

Customs is like and extra 50 or 60 depending on how they feel

[topaz geyser]

Oh I hear you, the magtube is French made so you’ll save that there. But you can always check with the owner if he can do any shipping deals

[hollow zinc]

I might do a special deal for the New Year so european folks can enjoy

[topaz geyser]

@celest lance ah the creator himself. Definitely worth looking into. When you open that shop up I’ve got an order waiting! But no rush enjoy the holidays

[celest lance]

Alr thanks, merry christmas!

[hollow zinc]

I'm also happy if European folks want to work with @dull tinsel who has a more simple version which I'll eventually sell the files for cheap so folks can print at home

[hardy osprey]

got a picture of it?

[placid bobcat]

@dull tinsel has post this channel, he said he have amazing result. im not sure if I able to link from his post, I have link. try that. #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[steel crown]

anyone know good stock for rift s

[royal wagon]

magtube

[silk fiber]

Does anyone know where to find that Tomahawk stock? That thing looked pretty good and it wasn't crazy expensive but I can find it

[hollow zinc]

https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=npgqXArIeBluzCNH

[wicked ibex]

Is this chat exactly what it sounds like?

[royal wagon]

maybe read back a few pages and look at the channel topic

should give you a good idea of what this channel is about

[wicked ibex]

Ah alright

Ah alright,….

I seee..

Whep I don’t have a gun stock so…… lol

[topaz geyser]

@steel crown

[lethal sinew]

https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

Build one. See if it helps. Might get you interested in a big boy one you pay money for

[glossy path]

Can someone help me I’m struggling to calibrate my stock

[royal wagon]

check the pinned guide in this channel, it is extensive and also includes a video

[glossy path]

It didn’t help

My controllers when connected via magnet the gun in game faces to the right

When I grip with the second hand

[royal wagon]

as mentioned both in the guide and in the video, gunstock calibration does not make horizontal adjustments

you will need to adjust your gunstock

[glossy path]

What

I bought the stock like this I didn’t make it

[royal wagon]

is it a non adjustable gunstock?

this is why adjustable gunstocks are considered mandatory

[glossy path]

It’s a fake gun that has a magnet

[royal wagon]

do you have a link to what you purchased?

[glossy path]

Oren vr spine

[royal wagon]

contact them and ask if they have any way to adjust the horizontal position

[glossy path]

I still don’t understand

[royal wagon]

not all gunstocks are created equal, many of them do not work well with tabor

gunstocks that do not have fine tuning adjustments are subject to having these kinds of difficulties and there may not be any way to fix it

[glossy path]

https://www.olenvr.com/vr-gun-stock-accessories/spine-full-kit-vr-gunstock

[royal wagon]

that is one i do not recommend because of the lack of adjustments

[glossy path]

Lmao

I saw someone else playing with this on ghost of tabor

[royal wagon]

shrug, ask them

maybe there is a way to adjust it, or ask olen for support

horizontal alignment problems are a stock problem, you cant fix it in software

[soft grotto]

I just want the raidr to come out already

[digital rampart]

Did not have wire cutters and the hangar fought back

[lethal sinew]

but seriously, be careful

[digital rampart]

Aint nothing gonna stop me from makin ts

[lethal sinew]

might help to find one of those pocketknives/multitools with a saw blade

or bread cutter

something serrated

[deep stag]

What would be a good gunstock that is cheaper then the magtube?

[digital rampart]

Far from pretty but it’ll hopefully work

[iron loom]

I have olenvr spine and I had to remove most of the plastic to make this work well with GoT and even then it sucks massively compared to other stocks lol.

[wicked ibex]

Oh damm lol

[mellow ridge]

Glistco magni stock plus

[topaz geyser]

@deep stag

Take a look at that one is 50$

[sharp tundra]

best quest 2 gunstock??? someone @ me

[leaden sonnet]

Slightly modified @lethal sinew DIY

Works like a charm

[bright garnet]

why are gunstocks so expensive

[prisma vortex]

don’t know

[tacit laurel]

Hello everyone! I'm Jeff and I work with Wield VR, creators of the OneStock. I came to join the community and check out all of your VR gunstock creations and solutions. If you have any questions about it, please feel free to ask me.

[mellow ridge]

Can’t wait to try out the stock

[violet depot]

Demand=price

[tacit laurel]

Thanks! We can't wait to get it to the players. We've been gearing up our XR studio here at the office and want to capture some Ghosts of Tabor gameplay with the OneStock.

[upper urchin]

Hi Jeff! Just watched the video on your website. Is there any support for knuckle grips?

[tacit laurel]

Knuckle grips, are you talking about the Quest 2/3 Active mounts or Valve Index controllers? The anwer would be yes to both of those. The Quest mounts have extra space at the bottom to fit the official Meta Active Straps and we have different grips that fit Valve Index

[upper urchin]

I'm on Quest 2, and personally use a third party version of the active straps, but as long as there's extra room that should work fine. Thank you!

[tacit laurel]

No prob!

[placid bobcat]

@tacit laurel when it's going be release?

[tacit laurel]

We are currently doing a small batch for influencers in January and will move into full production after with the first shipment in Q1 2024 (a more precise timeline will be available later) and the second batch delivery by April 30th 2024

[spring venture]

My new gunstock build acceptably comfortable

[placid bobcat]

Noice

[spring venture]

Thanks.
Being able to keep it in the shoulder while its down is good. And it rests on the belly comfortably while doing that so rests the arms while keeping it ready

[tacit laurel]

Interesting, so the right hand is lower than the shoulder stock to let your hands hang down while the left hand is elevated? Do you raise the entire stock to fire? Or does that hand position give you like a hip fire sort of style?

[spring venture]

The left hand is elevated yes. The top of my right hand is a inch or 2 below the cheek weld.
When its a gun with no foregrip the left hand is in the exact spot it should be in the game and with a underhand grip too.
This gives makes hip fire easy but still i raise the entire stock

The stock is long for most guns but not for the g3a3 which is my favorite

The buttstock

[tacit laurel]

Very cool, thank you for the explanation.

[karmic elm]

@tacit laurel I sent you a dm

[warm vapor]

They are low volume sales products with a lot of design required. You either 3D print parts in which case your production rate is low and per piece cost are relatively high or you make part molds for a factory that can run in the thousands of dollars to make ($1k - $12k as an estimate). If 200,000 players bought a gun stock, they could offer it at a relatively low price. That's why 3D printing at home is attractive. You take all the business overhead out of the equation and the player's time is free. For comparison, look at auto parts replacements. Simple gaskets for an engine can run $70 and it's a very simple part. But low volume and it has to be designed to high specs.

[modest tide]

hey anyone have an issue as of yesterday, my arms seem to be going to the right of my body just slightly, super strange

seems linked to gunstcok calibrtation potentially

[nocturne lotus]

Very well put, right on the spot

[pliant path]

someone here playing with magtube?
it just came, but i got some problems with it. Would be cool if someone can pn me 🙂

[royal wagon]

I am

[rich karma]

If you're on Quest 2/3/Pro, I've only great things to say about the Modus R from 3Daptive, completely customizable setup, has a front rifle mount and a closer SMG mount, front mount is spring loaded for pump-action shotguns, and its mad light

[timber falcon]

Hey Everyone!

I am Timo, Founder & CEO of Wield VR. For the last 3 years I have been hard at work developing the ideal VR gunstock.
I see some of you have already been acquainted with @tacit laurel, our community manager.

A member of your community in our YouTube comments urged me to come here and show our gunstock.

So I thought why not come here to post our latest video that Jeff and I have put together.
It demonstrates what the OneStock is all about and goes over all the major features and tester comments.

Please have a look and share what you think!

https://youtu.be/uLuSbcOYtwg

[shy mulch]

I’ve pre-ordered this and can’t wait to use it. Can you please do a video showing it in use with Ghosts of Tabor?

[royal wagon]

Have you considered anything to give height adjustments to the front controller? That’s pretty important for tabor

[timber falcon]

Yes we can do a video on Tabor!

[lethal sinew]

Is there any way to use this with after market knuckle straps for q2/3 controllers? Or do you have solutions for that in house?

Nice marketing piece.

[uncut rapids]

Kiwi have them

[winter orchid]

Looks like a good product. When will I be able to order it for UK

[modest tide]

anyone with index controllers having an issue with arms being off center?

ill be aiming just fine in riad, then all thre sudden the buttstock i game will mess up and push my arms like 1 ft t the side of my body lol

[modest tide]

exactly

[royal wagon]

I’ve seen issues near walls where it can affect your gun from a lot further away than expected

But other than that it’s fine, it’s not index related either

[slate wharf]

someone got the protubevr stock?

and can me picture a setting fir like a allrounder?

[royal wagon]

ive got some videos on my twitch channel that show the setup ive been using in tabor for about 1000 hours

[slate wharf]

problem is got when i aim higher

it wont let me

i set it quite the same like u i see

[royal wagon]

do you have virtual stock on still?

[slate wharf]

tes

yes

should i disable it?

ou haha ur my man ty 😄

[royal wagon]

yeah you dont want it on when using a gunstock

[tranquil stag]

magtube setups for m4 / ar

[novel zephyr]

is the gunstock kiwi too?? how does it fasten?

[ionic spire]

Cheap gunstock for quest 3? (entry level-ish)

[frail pawn]

So my friend is calibrating physical stock...calibrated, but then once out of calibration he can't grab gun with left hand...any ideas? If he grabs before place in stock when he brings it up gun goes wild

[nocturne flax]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1999321404

I watched this for calibration for my vr stock but using physical stock idk about that maybe that video I sent helps

But not gonna lie having a vr stock does make a huge difference, Protube has a 10% off for 5days

This is as cheap as it gets for vr stocks unless you find one for cheap or make yours out of pvc pipe

This is what I run and it runs great

But if I were yall and save up enough or sell your Xbox or whatever get this one 100%

[nocturne flax]

Because of your calibration video on twitch it’s helped my aim so much I gun down guys everytime

[royal wagon]

👍

[slate wharf]

how do u reload with a gunstock? xD

without smashing the stock?

[visual sorrel]

Carefully

[slate wharf]

hmm 😄

[nocturne flax]

I use to hit my stock with the quest 2 rings but with the quest 3 it’s never happened so far and shooting on the quest 3 feels super smooth. My frame rate never drops

[hexed tundra]

Probably the mag tube

[royal wagon]

Yep

[warm lark]

agreed

[pure crown]

This looks great!

[pure crown]

VRGM. Could be a little more long.

[modest tide]

yeah, I had to extend one similar by one more length and it worked perfectly

[whole coral]

H

[topaz geyser]

@upper vale

Check out that one. It’s got both hands free with an arm brace so you can aim well but your looting and normal tasks are 10x easier when you don’t have to unclip magnets all the time

[upper vale]

the shop for it is closed rn sadly

[fiery grail]

whats the best vive gun stock

?

[topaz geyser]

Yeah, he’s here in the discord as well that was the creator who posted the picture. He will be reopening the shop after Christmas, so another week or so probably. He said he has so many orders he needs to catch up and also enjoy the holidays. Click the email notification so when he reopens you’ll know!

[upper vale]

will do

[paper silo]

Actually just got mine in the mail? I really like it so far, just need to dial it in. Super cool dude to work with, I'm looking forward to using it more.

[forest grove]

anyone having calabraition issues with the ak5c?

[modest tide]

anyone have an issue where gun stock in game gets caught on magazines in chest pouch?

[modest tide]

mamut apto wasp #1
protube #2

[lapis tinsel]

is the magni gunstock good?

[tall spade]

so im planing on making gunstocs i found magnets 110lb and 70lb would it be more beneficial to have primary 110lb and secondary 70lb or just have one set of magnets with equal force

[blissful isle]

equal force imo

[final spear]

I’m looking for a gunstock what do you guys think I should get(pls tag me)

[tall spade]

i mean i was looking for designs on thingiverse pretty decent designs if u got a 3d printer

[topaz geyser]

@final spear check this one out

[final spear]

Naw I don’t but I was looking at this one

[hollow zinc]

Yup im here! Just a dad with a job who also makes gunstocks. Looking to expand next year but it's been a rush! Super thanks for the support guys!

[tall spade]

There’s that exact design if u got a 3d printer and some magnets with metal pipes

I saw there’s a similar one to that one but on a different website for like 85$

Us

[hollow zinc]

Crgrip is also awesome.

[median relic]

@hollow zinc Just got your stock and started using it. Love it a lot so far. Thank dude!

[hollow zinc]

Highly recommended

For 39 bucks probably no better stock and also a great guy.