🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[spring venture]

But when you use a tripod like that you are never gonna have muscle twitches affecting your aim much and pulling the trigger is gonna have less of an effect on accuracy also

[ashen hull]

Well, frankly having a bipod isn't that much of an advantage. I'd always rather have two hands supporting the weapon both in VR and not. I think its fine

Unless homie is sitting still camping

[spring venture]

He can still use 2 hands with a bipod tho

[ashen hull]

at which point fair play haha

Yes but just makes it more front heavy

I think it's fine, personally

Nothing stopping you getting one

or making stocks with or without bipods as we've seen some pretty creative people doing. Namely @halcyon iris

[royal wagon]

i dont find a bipod brings any advantages to a game like this

[past lichen]

Will you be making the lite for the index controllers by chance?

[fringe moss]

@obsidian chasm check the pins here

[obsidian chasm]

will definitely do that, thanks man!

[fringe moss]

Yeah the way I found that works best is making it match my trigger hand in calibration and then adjust my physical stock for the guns

[obsidian chasm]

that's what I've been doing, I left the center point (the elbow) loose enough to adjust and the front controller attachment (wrist) also loose enough to adjust, so I can make adjustments on the fly... seems to work well for the most part

[past lichen]

General question, does anyone know if "under the stock" controller mounting causes tracking issues with index controllers + 2 base stations? Or is that more of a concern with inside-out tracking?

[obsidian chasm]

from what I was told at one point (and could be wrong) "under the stock" configs don't work with GoT

[royal wagon]

the index tracking design is pretty immune to that problem

same with the cv1 and quest 1

however, i dont think there are any over controller mounted designs that are worth it

what you want is a magtube, last stock you'll ever need to own

[past lichen]

Interesting, good to know, thank you!

[obsidian chasm]

that's the one I just got in, working on getting it setup "for me" and learning the ins and outs, but yeah.. definitely worth the money and the way!

[past lichen]

I'm looking at magtube, but the price for my first stock seems a tad high

[royal wagon]

check my vids, theres a number of things you might want to know

[fringe moss]

Buy once cry once

[royal wagon]

buy nice cry once. its worth buying for your first stock because you wont need another

[floral echo]

BOCO

[fringe moss]

I went a little cheaper with a Modus R. And parts of it make me wish I had just gone Magtube but heard some conflicting reports of the magnets interfering with the IR sensors in the Q3

[royal wagon]

they dont

theres nothing to be conflicted about

[past lichen]

Fair fair. Is it worth thinking about their starter CQB, then adding the shoulder rest if I feel I need it after?

[royal wagon]

if you want

i would just go and buy a full carbon

[fringe moss]

It’s the bottom handle sensor they added on the 3 controllers 🤷‍♂️ I know most designs are being redone still due to it conflicting with most original designs

[royal wagon]

protube accounted for that on their very first cup design for the quest 3

thats not a magnet issue, thats a covering the sensor issue

[ashen hull]

Something good is coming

Print lines go like 😴

[royal wagon]

in a cup that has magnets on it, on a mount that you can change the pitch on

and double check your controller yaw angle so you can get things to line up

and you should have the tube underneath so you dont cause tracking problems

these are universal design principals for gunstocks in VR

you need to be able to adjust both controllers pitch, and the elevation between controllers

and the yaw angle needs to be accurate

gg close

[bleak warren]

In my defence , thats only with a sniper rifle to steady it. i don't run like that lol

[halcyon iris]

I'm not sure if it was clear, but the one that I did divides in the middle for me to loot

[bleak warren]

Run gun and loot I just use this.

[normal grove]

thinking of buying this. good for short smgs?

I already own a full size Magtube, but would like a short cqb gunstock for smaller guns like the mp7

[bleak warren]

i use all guns with it, well you have to 1st grab the smg shorter foregrip before attaching the magnets . feel a bit unrealistic but it works.

calibration was broken so i go like this since april.

[normal grove]

ahh i see.
this tech works on smgs w forgrips but not with guns with NO foregrips because of the new calibration update

just need a shorter stock now cause of it

[bleak warren]

yeah this is the protube starter thingy carbon fiber for the low weight

[halcyon iris]

For those wondering how I did it, you can understand a bit more with this photo

I know, it's not pretty but it works

[thin thistle]

Yes I will, message me if you want to be the first to try it out

[halcyon iris]

Is there any discount for early buyers? 🤔

[main flower]

Did you print this?

[ashen hull]

I did, yes

[main flower]

Thats so sexy

What printer do you use?

[ashen hull]

It's a resin printer

[main flower]

Aahh thats too rich for me man

[ashen hull]

Unfortunately not as straightforward to print as a traditional one 😦 although I've got all the supplies

IPA, curing station etc

[main flower]

Yeah i have heard that they could be hard to get going

I have an ender 3 pro. Does its job. But resin looks way nicer on stuff like that

[ashen hull]

Thankfully the prints are pristine quality

I'll get a pic of the full grip

[main flower]

Yes please. Could make a lot of money om that

If someone manages to produce their stocks fast and cost efficient. And then sell them at a lower price then all others, i bet theres a lot of money to be made

[ashen hull]

I can print one full stock, grip and everything involved every 4 hours including cleaning and curing which is good

[main flower]

Yeah thats pretty good. Is the material expensive?
Really nice finish

[ashen hull]

My friend is a 3D artist, he's made me some fancy stock design, grip etc that I'm going to do some things with soon. The resin is £30 per 1 litre. It's printed at 0.05mm per layer so it's insanely smooth

For everything to get started with my printer it's around £300

😭

[main flower]

Investment

Its a lot cheaper with a normal printer yeah. But doesnt look as nice

[ashen hull]

Yeah but not the best investment since the printer and curing station uses a lot of electricity 😭

I have other uses for mine, didn't buy for vr

Little dirty but not bad print quality ay

[past lichen]

That looks great. I found one I was tempted to try and print but I'm not sure the cost in resin would be worth it over just buying one.

Not to mention how long it'd take my little mono 4k to get through all the parts 😅

[ashen hull]

Yeah man, it's not feasible to make profit frankly but nice to make one for yourself if you've already got one

My friend had his printer run out of resin on a giant print half way

Wasted resin and alcohol cleaning it all up 😭

Got a pole coming tomorrow so I can finally use a stock!

[past lichen]

Oh jeez, yeah this is the one I was eyeing:

So much resin would go into it 😂

[ashen hull]

🤣😭 for sure hahaha

If someone gets admin approval maybe I can print for cost price for you? But I don't wanna do anything unless I'm allowed to. I dont want to make money from anyone and I wanna make it clear this isn't something I'm selling in any capacity.

I printed this specific one using a free model from thingiverse

[glad scroll]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6289919

This one?

[ashen hull]

Yes that's the one

[glad scroll]

Nice, I'm about to print it too in a week or 2. I already got the tubes

[ashen hull]

Amazing 🤩 gotta send results

[glad scroll]

Sure will!

[ashen hull]

What printer you got

Also I'm curious what tubes you went for

They're all so bloody expensive, I just wanted a stock haha

[glad scroll]

My father bought the bambu lab x1c with the black friday sales, so I'll borrow his

[ashen hull]

Sheeeesh

[glad scroll]

And I bought cheap aluminum pipes on aliexpress

That arrived today too

[ashen hull]

Amazing!

I want carbon

But idk it's expensive

Could maybe print one

[glad scroll]

I found carbon pipes on amazon for 20-30€ and on aliexpress for 10€

[ashen hull]

Oh wow

Must be fake right?

[glad scroll]

Carbon pipes are strong and lightweight, but I'm not a fan of carbon fiber due to health issues, if it breaks or gets damaged it's very bad to breath for your lungs

[glad scroll]

If you find the good deals you can get them cheaper

But I just went with aluminum pipes, lightweight too, cheaper, you can buy multiple so if it breaks you just replace it

[ashen hull]

Hmm not bad, maybe I'll get one

Yeah that's very true

What's the printer quality like, must be quite good right

[past lichen]

Oh no offense, it's just something on thingyverse I found I was thinking about trying for personal use lol

[ashen hull]

Thingiverse comes in clutch

I made a self watering plant pot

But I cracked the bottom 😭

Dropped the fucker

Pic?

Okay

[past lichen]

Oh, thanks! I might take you up on that, still looking into different ideas lol

$90 worth of resin to print that one 😢

Oh. It’s not hollowed…

[ashen hull]

This goes hard

Also got a full pic of the printed parts

Printing one for my downstairs neighbour

He has VR too but need my friend to adjust the grip to work for index so he can use

Hence one grip

[copper kiln]

Does anyone know of any PVC that actually fits the dimensions of an AR15 stock adaptor? (I have a few around, figuring it would be nice touch to gunstock)

[ashen hull]

I'm afraid not, sorry

I'm just shit at aiming full stop haha

[past lichen]

If he does the index grips I know a guy who may be interested in an STL file 👀

[ashen hull]

If he makes he'll publish for free

[frosty ferry]

I want the Wield VR OneStock, it has dope features but it seems WAY overpriced, it's $150

[ashen hull]

Sorry what

What does it look like?

[earnest magnet]

Interesting that you used a resin, I printed this design in fdm

Given that it’s resin, how are you planning to put the heat set inserts into the parts?

[ashen hull]

What do you mean? @earnest magnet

I'm confused slightly

[earnest magnet]

That design… requires heat set inserts

You heat them up and push them into plastic

[ashen hull]

This design uses bolts and nuts

[dawn shale]

What one should I buy bois, I’m not playing the game until I can fix my gun handling with a stock

[earnest magnet]

It really doesn’t

I have the design

Standby for pictures

[ashen hull]

It has holes for bolts and areas for nuts

I'll fit it and show you how it goes, maybe tomorrow I need to go to Screwfix

[earnest magnet]

You realize nuts are hexagonal right?

I’ll post a video in a sec

[ashen hull]

These aren't heat set it looks like

[earnest magnet]

Standby

[ashen hull]

You can also place the nut then screw in the bolt with an Allen key

[earnest magnet]

Putting on in now

[ashen hull]

Ok

[earnest magnet]

My work bench is trashed

[ashen hull]

It's all good

I won't be using magnets fyi I only want the dominant hand bit

Not the extra

[dawn shale]

Eh bois

[ashen hull]

Yo

[earnest magnet]

Video uploading

[dawn shale]

What stock do you think I should get

[ashen hull]

Honestly depends what you want out of it

[dawn shale]

I just wanna be able to aim my gun properly as right now I can’t hold the controllers perfectly level and straight whilst moving, can’t hit anything for shit 🥲

[earnest magnet]

https://youtube.com/shorts/RQBaUC2QH6I?si=B0g6qQ5Faaud6vjd

This is how that stock goes together

[past lichen]

Was able to hollow that stock down to where I still think it'll be strong, and only use 180ml of resin. Will report back in ~8 hours with results

[ashen hull]

Oh dude that's fine I can just use a bolt with a nut on the other end, it doesn't need to be pretty, the hole goes to the other side it doesn't need to be embedded

[earnest magnet]

Sure.. on the stock… that’s a through hole

The controllers are blind holds

[ashen hull]

I'll use a shorter bolt and thread it into the controller grip with some super glue

[ashen hull]

I'll show the results tomorrow, I ordered some poles so we'll see ay

Yeah I'll just brute force that fucker

[earnest magnet]

I’ve been going through that design and fixing various aspects of it

[ashen hull]

I'll show you tomorrow

[earnest magnet]

Good luck 👍

[ashen hull]

Oh nice, what changes do you make

[earnest magnet]

Various tweaks for magnet sourcing, reinforced sections, improved print ability, and lastly I need to tweaks the stock to not only fit tighter but I’ll add a check rest

[ashen hull]

How does it work how you have it for Tabor?

[earnest magnet]

Haven’t used it yet personally, been using @small bobcat as my Guinea pig

[ashen hull]

😭🤣

[earnest magnet]

Once I’m done, I need to see how the angles work with a quest 2 and tweak for that also… then I’ll make my remix public… I think

[ashen hull]

Oooosh for sure

[earnest magnet]

He seems to like it, but he was using the previous weak magnet configuration, I’ve greatly increased the magnet power from what it originally was

[ashen hull]

Love making things free

How much are the magnets?

[dawn shale]

I buy this?

[ashen hull]

@earnest magnet can you do me a favour please

[earnest magnet]

?

[ashen hull]

Can you measure the length of the M4 screw I'd need please? To get from the controller mount all the way into the bracket

I'm thinking 30mm

[earnest magnet]

I’ve been using 10mm screws

15 would technically be better, but I only have 10 and 20 and 20 is too long

Your setup with be different because I have no idea how your going to make it work without inserts

[ashen hull]

Does 10mm get to the bottom?? Like all the way through

Alternatively I'll drop some resin into the hole and cure it failing everything 🤙

[floral echo]

magtube

my daily reminder/contribution to the inevitable "which gunstock??" question that will barf into here. the end. bye.

[undone orbit]

Niche question but does anyone have any grip recommendations for the meta quest 3 controllers? My trigger pull feels rough and am hoping that might make it easier

[visual sorrel]

Alright so the gunstock I'm gonna get doesn't come with a sling any recommendations?

Is a single point sling better?

[plucky scroll]

I’d get a KobraVR Wolverine

[stable quartz]

cqb or long range today?

[royal wagon]

i set it up for both

good ergonomics for your body is fast, and 4 points of contact is good for accuracy, so its good for both

[zenith gyro]

Anyone got any ideas on how to fix the fact that I have to point my Gunstocks to the ceiling to look down sights

Using calibration seems to mess up tracking so I lose front hand tracking and can’t move my gun

[inland plover]

I use default settings and turn off both gunstock settings in game. Works way better.

[ember lintel]

Hello unknown

[zenith gyro]

Including the using gunstock setting?

[inland plover]

Yo!@

[ember lintel]

How you doing

[inland plover]

Yes!.. I do not turn on the gunstock settings in game.. Its messy right now.

They said something about it a while ago. Sorry if you were not here.

[zenith gyro]

As well as clearing all calibrations correct

[inland plover]

Yes!

[zenith gyro]

Ok I’ll give it a shot. Thanks for the tip

[inland plover]

All default works best on the Gunstock settings in game.

No problem

I still have issues with the Tilt in the settings.. My set to 33 and when I go in game it sets back to default.. I have to change one setting and then it fixes the tilt in game, but that sucks having to go into your menu each game.

[dawn shale]

Everyone says something different 😭

[placid bobcat]

I bought it as Quest 3. Im waiting for shipped

[indigo mural]

Any good recommendations for a first gun stock?

[dawn shale]

I’ll buy it too then

[plucky scroll]

The magnets on the Glistco suck tho, so be ready for that

[placid bobcat]

lets see when I got it on my hand and see if its strong or not.

[plucky scroll]

I own one, just giving you a warning brodie

[placid bobcat]

how long have you been use that?

[plucky scroll]

I used it until I got a better stock, so about 2-3 weeks

Now I use the KobraVR Wolverine

[placid bobcat]

is that from esty?

[plucky scroll]

Yeah

[fringe moss]

Modus R is the best I have found that isn’t a Magtube for Quest 3

[plucky scroll]

They also just made a new one for quest pro and quest 3

[placid bobcat]

nice, is that more like CQB gunstock @plucky scroll

[plucky scroll]

It fits whatever you need it for. I use it for CQB and long range marksmanship

There’s also an optional pump action slide for using shotguns

[placid bobcat]

nice nice

[plucky scroll]

And the best part? Your left hand is completely free

Finally got a picture to work

Stock is adjustable, it’s lightweight, and it extremely comfortable.

[placid bobcat]

I can order another but is it too much lol

[fringe moss]

Quest 3 has issues with under stock mounting

[fringe moss]

Modus R is $90 shipped

[plucky scroll]

That’s why KobraVR made a new stock

[plucky scroll]

Last I checked it’s around $110-$120

Can’t remember exactly

I’ve been using it since October last year.

[placid bobcat]

ah ok

Nice @fringe moss

did u use that so far @fringe moss

[fringe moss]

Only had it a week so far but been liking it. Lot of adjustment and everything you see was included with the purchase

Front spring works really well for pump actions in Pavlov

[royal wagon]

is that front tube pushed to the right?

[placid bobcat]

ooooh thats more like alot work but didnt it have magnetic on it?

[plucky scroll]

The Wolverine has no magnets

[royal wagon]

thats whack

[fringe moss]

No magnets on the quest 3 version

[fringe moss]

I haven’t had any issues with alignment

[plucky scroll]

Quest 3 has magnets

[fringe moss]

What?

[plucky scroll]

But we were talking about quest 2

One sec, let me get a picture

[fringe moss]

The modus R doesn’t use magnets, its form fit cups that fit snug all the time

[placid bobcat]

i see that @fringe moss

[plucky scroll]

Also just checked, the quest 2 stock is $70

[fringe moss]

Like I’ve had them in it and moved them around no issue but still easy enough to break away with a flick of the wrist

[placid bobcat]

@plucky scroll im on quest 3, so that wolverine gunstock i have to wait when they are support q3

[plucky scroll]

I’m trying to get a pic of the one that does support quest 3

[placid bobcat]

ok

[fringe moss]

If you can swing it, the Magtube is the best buy

[placid bobcat]

expensive :/

[fringe moss]

If you want a stock now (he restocks often) the modus r is a great option for a more “budget” price

[placid bobcat]

@plucky scroll ur image uploading seem not work lol

nvm

[plucky scroll]

Finally got one that works😂

[fringe moss]

Can already tell you that rear controller is gonna have issues tracking

The Q3 can not have obstructions above the controller

[plucky scroll]

Got a buddy that runs one, he’s had zero issues

[placid bobcat]

i prefer pole without body.

[fringe moss]

Is he using a pro like in that picture?

Cause pros use cameras

[plucky scroll]

He’s on quest 3, they make different sleeves for it

It’s just that’s the only pic I could get to work

[placid bobcat]

nice

i will wait for little bit but right now i ordered glistco but i will update yall when my glistco turn ngl lol

[plucky scroll]

🤙

Hope your magnets work ok

[fringe moss]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

This is made by a community member

[placid bobcat]

thanks @plucky scroll i will keep update if my magnets very strong or cheaper

[placid bobcat]

the problem is they use quest 2 but they didnt update for Quest 3 😒

[fringe moss]

The freedom stock? He says is updated for 3

[placid bobcat]

i dont see anywhere, i must be blinded

[placid bobcat]

ooof i see the product details

facepalm myself

95 dollar?

be honest, I prefer have sling on me so i can rest my arm

[royal wagon]

Slings are important

[placid bobcat]

absolute

[shut dock]

Has anyone tried attaching the controllers to an actual ak or ar? I've got spare rifles I could use for the game but not sure how I'd even start. Or maybe even just attaching them to a blank AR upper and lower??

You could use a spare stock and buffer tube for length of pull... And the maybe something to attach to mlok or pic rails for the forend? Who's got a 3d printer and needs a guinea pig?? 😂

Attach right hand with something 3d printed to fit inside the lower where you screw in a real grip

[dawn shale]

Good ol 10lb gun hold it up for few hours

You start accidentally shooting your walls down when you see an enemy in game

[shut dock]

@dawn shale 10lb? I mean... My G3 with the optic and bipod might be 10lbs but a bare bones AR is like 6-7lbs when built. Anyway, I've swept areas for a LONG time with M16, M4, and AK so I guess do pushups, bro 😂

[dawn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-down-notes-writing-memo-gif-17395025

[shut dock]

@dawn shale ya, you probably shouldn't load ammo into something you're waving around for a videogame. That might be the one situation that's acceptable to have a chamber flag in 😂

[dawn shale]

Do it for the realism

Do it with a 50 cal

[shut dock]

@dawn shale you're right, I can't wait to ventilate my neighbor. Thank you for you're wisdom 🤣

[dawn shale]

Hit their gas pipe’s accidentally

[fringe moss]

Hit your own gas pipe accidentally lol

[shut dock]

probably just gonna end up shooting my ol lady or kid so maybe I'll leave the ammo out of it, as originally planned

[dawn shale]

You considered it

[fringe moss]

I think you would have better time with a skeleton vr gunstock (rod with mounts)

[shut dock]

Oh, like the ones guys were posting above? I was looking through those and considering that

[fringe moss]

Yeah

They translate fairly well into game. And if you got the scratch you can always go ProtubeVr Forcetube

It has haptic feedback in the stock

[shut dock]

Just got to thinking about how I might just make one and naturally thought about all the spare guns and parts I've got

I'm gonna look that up, thanks bro

[dawn shale]

.50 cal loaded for realism

Wait till they add RPGs

[shut dock]

@dawn shale this fuckin guy 🤣

[dawn shale]

I’ve got some more good ideas I’m Gatekeeping

One involves if they ever add vehicles to the game…

[fringe moss]

Wakashi run but irl

[shut dock]

Tie the triggers of the controller and firearm together. Winning@dawn shale

[dawn shale]

Flash bang run but in an old age home

[fringe moss]

I shot the flare gun but it didn’t work in game… wdym it isn’t in game?

[shut dock]

@dawn shale you must be the cop that tossed a bang in that baby's crib years ago 😂

[dawn shale]

LMFAO

Hopefully no kid in it

[fringe moss]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-dark-dark-grim-serious-uncomfortable-gif-11760193

[shut dock]

Ya, there was. Y'all dont remember that? Set the house on fire too, obviously. I don't remember which department or what year that was but I definitely remember that story and wondering who the fuck tosses a flash bang in a place that may have a kid, as a cop. There ain't a warrant on the planet that justifies some shit like that 😂

[plucky scroll]

What headset do you use?

I would recommend the KobraVR Wolverine

[royal wagon]

magtube, ez win

[stoic cairn]

I've got a magtube but I feel like the amount of time you spend using your hands for things other than holding a gun in Tabor can almost make it a disadvantage unless you get perfect muscle memory on slapping those cups back on or are comfortable free handing it when necessary

[plucky scroll]

Why I love my KobraVR Wolverine so much, your left hand is entirely free.

[slim crescent]

Personally I started it with games like onward and Pavlov, once you get down the clamping your front hand back onto the cup after a reload it becomes second nature quick. So looting isn't really a problem. But yeah, be prepared to need to free hand sometimes

[dawn shale]

Just ordered a stock, hoping it fixes my aim or helps it

[small bobcat]

Happy to help

[wraith quartz]

What is the best gun stock for ghost of tabor?

[upper kernel]

w

[summer python]

Has anyone tried the actual ghosts of Tabor gunstock?

I think it's called the Tabor RAIDR

[ashen hull]

I don't believe it's out yet

[warm wedge]

So... I've just disabled the physical gunstock settings and everything works fine with my sanlaki, lol

[royal wagon]

muscle memory does build speed, but having the magtube sized properly for your body is what makes the ergonomics work for you

get the length of pull right, and size your sling right, and it all kind of happens automatically

[normal grove]

yeah, after watching your magtube guide, i can instantly ADS with calibrated guns

[dawn shale]

I order dis

Now I wait

Hoping it makes me able to actually aim later on instead of trying to line up the front and back of the gun to get straight

[ember star]

Any good gun stocks for oculus rift s?

[astral chasm]

Can anyone help me out I'm look for a oculus quest gun stock?

[ashen hull]

Click and look up one

[spring venture]

Definetely the magtube because you have to deal with tracking issues

[ashen hull]

How good is mag tube

[spring venture]

Its a 10/10 for all gunstocks

[placid bobcat]

I ordred Glistco too @dawn shale

[dawn shale]

This one’s good too eh

[dawn shale]

Oh Wtff the timing

[placid bobcat]

I would go try order another gunstock its called sanlaki Elite its look worth because i see the genuis who make that idea so impressive

[placid bobcat]

haha yeah

[dawn shale]

I think anything that holds the controllers straight is good no

[placid bobcat]

yeah that way helpful keep straight so u dont get wrong side twist u know what i mean?

[dawn shale]

Confused but, gunstocks seem to change players from getting no kills to getting 4-5 per game

[placid bobcat]

first we have to develop our muscle memory for gunstock without headset till You find right timing perfect then preparing to kill like Rambo or John Wick

look at that

https://youtube.com/shorts/lvw1XtsGk7E?si=nwG1KWhxODcm3X_c

[dawn shale]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Zv7GLoKdhzU?feature=shared

[placid bobcat]

lmaoo

[junior dawn]

ayyo guys, printing my first gunstock, any helpful tips for using one?

[placid bobcat]

no clue, Sorry @junior dawn

[hardy osprey]

What are you printing

[fringe moss]

You will likely have issues using a straight line setup without ability to offset to the sides

Your foregrip won’t line up often

[junior dawn]

wth why?

[fringe moss]

Because guns aren’t all identically shaped or level?

That type of setup might work well for something with a larger snap radius (Pavlov)

[junior dawn]

isn't that what gunstock calibration is for tho?

[fringe moss]

No

Gunstock calibration (in its current form) only adjusts the rear dominant firing hand.

And it doesn’t calibrate for each gun individually

This is the explanation of the feature atm #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[junior dawn]

okkao

[junior dawn]

i mean, IDK if there is any better gunstock to 3d print

[fringe moss]

There are plenty but majority will need additional metal parts for strength

Most stocks are 3d printed

[fringe moss]

What headset?

[junior dawn]

CV1

[fringe moss]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5476216

Can’t find any specifically for the CV1 but this is the type of design favored for this game

[junior dawn]

aight thanks

gonna try printing this one once I upgrade to quest 3 lol

[fringe moss]

You just want to be able to cant your grips to the sides and adjust height & distance of the front mainly

[pure crown]

Has anybody bought the ghost of Tabor gun stock?

[main quartz]

i dont think its out yet?

[placid bobcat]

I believe its not release yet but I can look up right now

oh its look like u can order it Edited : not available yet

[blissful isle]

its not released yet. It is on Mamut's website tho too. I ordered Mamuts Wasp because I got sick of waiting lol

[pure crown]

Guys it’s out go to the website I just ordered one now!!!

[ember lintel]

That's just preorder

[zenith token]

Hey y'all, I've been thinking about getting a gunstock, y'all have any recommendations? I don't have a huge budget.

[past lichen]

Two 8 hour prints, a whole lot of resin, but it works

[lyric cairn]

looks long as hell

but good looks

[past lichen]

I printed an extra mid section so I could play with it and see how long I want it

[lyric cairn]

very nice. yea it looks good.

[past lichen]

Thanks!! Now just to wait on magnets to get delivered for the controller mounts

[vapid agate]

what’s the cheapest gunstock on amozon or just the gunstock that you recommend

[ashen hull]

@earnest magnet as requested

well chuffed with the quality

Hype to shoot with a stock, will fix the stock in a second! Need to find my spirit level]

Didn't need to embed the socket

[ashen hull]

It's put together!!

[modest tide]

dude this one will be great, idk why op is telling you it wont be lol, i made on out of flat steel and magnets and works literally perfect lol

[ashen hull]

This stock is cracked, if you've got a printer go print it.. it's on thingiverse

[woven estuary]

I want to buy a gunstock but I don't know any good ones for quest 3, anyone got any recommendations?

[glad scroll]

You only did one part to use it as an istock?

[ashen hull]

It's 3 parts

And a pole, it works perfectly as virtual stock

Nothing required to mess around with

[glad scroll]

I mean for the other hand

[ashen hull]

Oh I didn't print the left hand

Only right

[modest tide]

mamut apto

[white pivot]

Any good recommendations for Index users? Seems to be harder to find

[glad scroll]

Why not?

[normal grove]

Magtube

[ashen hull]

I don't like the idea of having both, plus I'm really good now with this new stock it's literally unmatched compared to not using one!!

I'd never go back, just need to post one to my homie now

[past lichen]

You'll probably get spammed with magtube replies, but if you don't want to spend $140, @thin thistle's index stock looks interesting, there's also a glistco one on amazon, I ended up just printing one I found on thingyverse

[modest tide]

Mamut apto is a great index option, probably the best hands down but is 200, was just 50% off but i believe thats over now

[proper cipher]

there's also the tabor stock that'lll be orderable eventually

[normal grove]

You are basically just looking for a gunstock that has:

• 3 point adjustable rods
• Adjustable horizontal and vertical pitch controller thumbscrews
• easily removable in-game controller (magnets) for both hands
• adjustable cheekpad

I've only use the magtube so I can only rec that, but there are many other gunstock that do the same shit.

Anything less and you are really just missing out on the full experience. Especially to play this game with the current calibration system

[proper cipher]

are adjustable rods really all that important? you can't adjust anything mid-raid

so changing anything on a per-gun basis is just not gonna happen

[normal grove]

Yeah it is. Usually you just change it in bunker

Sometimes you just gotta free-hand shit if a new gun you find doesnt fit your physical setup at the time.

[proper cipher]

which is basically every gun that isn't the exact same one hyou had before

[normal grove]

You wanna be able to physically change the gunstock's calibration to fit the gun in game. A 40$ gunstock just doesnt do that

[normal grove]

well i can usually go from a akm to a galil to a cx8 easily without adjustments

[proper cipher]

so if you like to use multiple guns then those adjustable rods aren't helping you

[past lichen]

The amount of PVC and cardboard stocks I've seen pics of in this channel I don't think the adjustable rods are the most critical

I mostly joke.

I printed a static one because I want to see if I even like using a physical stock before paying for all the bells and whisles

[normal grove]

you just slightly adjust it in your bunker

takes like 30sec-1min

[proper cipher]

real useful when you ilke to go into a raid with a shotty and a sniper, or a mac10 and an akm

[normal grove]

yeah its not optimal, but its what we got today

when im doing naked runs, i just freehand shit

[proper cipher]

or you're playing hardcore and run out of ammo so you gotta switch to whatever you have at hand

i've not really noticed any issues with my povertystock using multiple guns anyway lol

[normal grove]

maybe it works out, idk personally

[proper cipher]

well that's hwy i was asking if it's actually that important since you were so confident in it being a requirement, i figured you'd have tested it and found a significant difference lol

[normal grove]

Yeah, I was just convinced that not being able to adjust it would make each gun a little "off"

but if you say its fine with a non-adjustable, then i believe you

[proper cipher]

all i can say is i've not had any real issues, i've not had chance to try out a magtube or anything to test if it's significantly better

[modest tide]

mamut apto

i havent had any issues with my stock even going from an akm to a pistol, am still able to control both and use both without problem or adjustment, just calibrate each weapon group to your stock, ez

[lyric cairn]

can i get the link would love to see it?

[tall island]

how much for a good enough HTC vive pro 2 gunstock

[modest tide]

the best one that can be bought would be the mamut apto, i built this for my vive initially and it worked flawlessly 🙂 ill post pics below

[tall island]

great, ill look into it! Thanks

[modest tide]

yeah I built a diy one before the mamut and it was really nice, worked perfectly 🙂 only cost me 20 bucks to make this

all magnet attachements as well

[tall island]

yeah the mamut seems a bit pricey, thanks for the recomendation tho

[modest tide]

yeah it was just 50% off but that just ened unfortunately

[tall island]

I see

[modest tide]

yeah cheapest op will be diy, or hand printed from etsy 🙂 both good options

[normal grove]

looks dope

[fringe moss]

Magtube $50-150
Modus R $90
Glisco $70

[blissful isle]

I got the mamut wasp for $126. As stated it was just on sale. Made it more comparable to other higher end options price wise

[ashen hull]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6289919

[lyric cairn]

that actually looks like a really cheap and good option for all those who have 3d printers. wow pretty sweet.

[pure crown]

Cheap and does the job, £7 from b&q ( if you looked at my toe you owe me £10 )

[modest tide]

thing is so badass haha

[modest tide]

trust me, it is haha

[dawn shale]

Y’all love me?

[modest tide]

100

[dawn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-love-hi-bye-cat-gif-5848836

[lyric cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-gif-26460635

[fringe moss]

ProtubeVR Forcetube

They also have a pistol

[normal grove]

I just use a bhaptics suit that simulates getting shot and recoil on the front of the chest where you are holding your gun (left or right upper torso)

Think so, PCVR

[hazy stirrup]

you're gonna need to write and make some kinda steamvr plugin for it to actually work in some way. the protube one needed to be integrated into individual games i think

[dawn shale]

How much do y’all think my aim is going to improve with a gunstock

As all you need to do is have the gun up and pointed with it, rather have the gun up and level the controller perfectly horizontal and vertical 24/7

And then you’re dead already

[normal grove]

Yeah, you can instantly ads with a gunstock using the cheekpad

Helps my skill issue most of the time

[hardy osprey]

What stock do you have

[normal grove]

magtube + index

[dawn shale]

Heck yeah

[royal wagon]

thats what a stock is all about

aim without thinking or looking

[normal grove]

i mostly just wasnt using the cheekpad for ADSing, but its really nice to be able to lock on insta headtap

[royal wagon]

4 points of contact is no joke

[dawn shale]

Did it help you

[royal wagon]

cheekpad is for above, shoulder is for behind, both hands are from the sides

ive been using a protube product (protube or magtube) for 7 years

[dawn shale]

Wtf

So it’s a huge advantage over players who don’t

And just in general will give you aiming I suppose

[royal wagon]

it does a number of things for you

it lets you use guns in vr like you do in real life, its very consistent and feels much better

you also get the precision benefits that rifles get biomechanically, like 4 points of contact. which will also increase your aiming speed

[ashen hull]

😱

[dawn shale]

Heck yeah, hoping I’ll improve when It comes in then

Oh that’s cool, you do twitch

[hardy osprey]

Those with the protube what’s the bracket upgrade do?

[dire frost]

When does the GoT stock on their website come out?

[hardy osprey]

Near End of this month

[fringe moss]

Extra mounting point

[hardy osprey]

Like it’s just one more mount for the controllers?

[ashen hull]

I think I might give away a free VR gun stock for Xmas for the UK only 😮

[ashen hull]

Since I printed too many of the Thingiverse print lol

[fringe moss]

Yes

[hardy osprey]

Ok so it’s not needed and will probably get in my way

[fringe moss]

Can always buy it later too

[static dew]

Yoooo lmk if it goes

Ahead

[ashen hull]

I just need some more M4 screws and nuts

then I'll announce

Looks excellent

[halcyon iris]

True, looks awesome

[junior dawn]

you were right lmao

@fringe moss you were also only partially right, only SKS had any trouble with offsetting so i pretty much just raised the stock physically on my shoulder and it worked flawlessly

[junior dawn]

went on a test run with nothing but an SKS on matka miest, got out with this

and 3 frags

feels like cheating honestly

[fringe moss]

Did you try adding things like foregrip attachments?

[junior dawn]

it was a normal one not a tapco, with attachments yea i was running with this m4

[fringe moss]

Also some guns like the Scar have unique mounting

[junior dawn]

and l85 with a straight foregrip

also: one frag was in CQB - a guy with TT rushed me down on matka plaza when I was looting, other two were mid-long range

honestly the thing is that I can always offset the aim using my hands and it works fine, the main thing that gunstock does is allow me to feel where the gun is aiming so I can hit headshot without aiming down sights lmao

[dawn shale]

SKS is just a laser, am I wrong? The iron sights are perfect and not so together so you can see what you’re shooting

[junior dawn]

just like IRL tbh

[dawn shale]

Legit?

I gotta get one then haha

[full ivy]

Very nice. Mine's not as impressive but I did a quick island raid yesterday with an AK, lvl3 rig and 1 extra mag, nothing else. Took out a geared 3 stack almost right away and had this stuff to pick through including some very nice helmets:
My chest rig was also in the shot, I was shuffling things around
I was using a Mamut APTO

[modest tide]

Yeah man, idk why anyone has issues. They say its due to saved cashe files but hell yeah g 🙂

[past lichen]

I didn't even realize it until just now, but not even their "official" GoT stock is adjustable 🤔

[fossil seal]

i bought a tomahawk there recently, amazing purchase

[past lichen]

I saw that Skol charges $10 more for a lefty stock and quickly closed their store...plus they don't support my controllers

[fossil seal]

oof, still have my og q2 controllers from 3 years ago and im right handed for everything but writing (dont ask how that works idfk) so i didnt mind

[past lichen]

No I get it, I'm lefty for everything but writing!

[urban wren]

I have skols but it took a month to get to my place in vegas

[fossil seal]

hahaha, its so weird how that works, i only discovered that when i started playing badminton and hurling (irish hurling) and found it was easier to do it right handed

[fossil seal]

took me like 1 week of prep then 2 weeks after that

[past lichen]

I wish there was more support for index controllers, but I get that the vast majority of the market share is in standalones

[urban wren]

Damn.

[past lichen]

Right? It's like you got your strong arm and your finsese arm 😂

[fossil seal]

yeah theres alot more standalones than pcvr, i dont think im ever gonna not get a standalone unless they bring out an index 2 or smth

[foggy heart]

What up gamers 🙂

[fossil seal]

the index is just too outdated imo and ive heard so much about them breaking after a year, i dont have that type of money to be spending on repairs

[fossil seal]

yeah fr haha

[ashen hull]

Okay glue is dry, I'm definitely going to give a quest 3 gun stock away for free to somebody for Christmas. Is there a way an admin can message me to arrange this through discord maybe?? Pics attached

Has a defect in stock from where I pulled it off the bed like an idiot so that's why it's free although works very well obviously. This isn't something I sell FYI. It's from a free thingiverse model

[past lichen]

In some aspects it's definitely outdated. I still stand behind it having the best tracking and controllers out there lol.

Their QA/QC is definitely shit, you got me there. But valve support is awesome. I've had it for 4-5 years and they've replaced 4 base stations and even the entire headset completely free years after the warranty expired

[fossil seal]

goddam, tbf valve is probably the best gaming company out there

[past lichen]

There it is, yeah 4 years ago, so it's 3 years outside of warranty, and I actually have another free replacement base station on the way right now!

[fossil seal]

lmfaooooooo

[hardy osprey]

Anyone seen the wieldvr?

[placid bobcat]

For 151 dollar. Insane pricey

Like that as magtube price

[gentle palm]

i dont have a gunstock, but i wanted to ask

what do yall do when you do into a raid naked

and you dont have a gun?

[hardy osprey]

Scream incoherently and run at a player

Or loot

[dawn shale]

Who raids without a pistol atleast?

[empty jay]

Get some rubber hoses to fit into those T joints and you'll have a soft and firm fit too

[strong lichen]

What 3d printer are u using?

[ashen hull]

It's a resin printer

[azure tusk]

Is the Weild Vr gunstock good?

[slate swan]

Is there anyway to get an actually good gunstock calibration

[modest tide]

not as good as the mamut apto wasp

[blissful isle]

cant wait for my wasp to get delivered

[visual sorrel]

Anyone have the magni by glistco? I've seen mixed reviews and don't want to buy something that's missing parts

[hardy osprey]

Looks amazing

[azure tusk]

What are the main differences

[royal wagon]

the weild doesnt have the ability to control the height between controllers

thats pretty important

[gentle palm]

do you have different gun stocks for different weapons?

[normal grove]

Are quest gunstocks ambidextrous? Meaning can you switch your trigger hand mid raid?

My magtube index takes like 10 minutes to swap hands

[past lichen]

I think it depends on the stock. I'm lefty and have been looking around at them. Most of the others I've looked at require selecting left or right handed. Unless that's just deciding which cup comes mounted on the back by default?

[normal grove]

Ah I see, the quest controllers arent the same and have a left and right version

With leaning being a thing now, I might just have to retire the gunstock to be able to switch main hands

[past lichen]

Yeah it looks like the cups are formed to L/R controllers as well

(photo credit @ashen hull )

[normal grove]

Its very hard to do a right hand peak as a lefty (and vice versa.)

[ashen hull]

That's right @past lichen they provide both left and right on thingiverse

[normal grove]

makes sense

[past lichen]

Yeah, could you swap shoulders, but not hands for peeks?

I know it'd be awkward as hell, but may be better than having to lean further

[normal grove]

Guess just gotta wait and see if gunstock are still viable w/ leaning

[ashen hull]

I peak and have cleared rooms with just this setup, it's works perfectly but then again I was never fond of switching the firing hand when clearing

[past lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPwPTjYNLS8 starting around 2:13 on this video there's a clip of what I mean, Tarkov's adding shooting from the left shoulder but keeping right hand on trigger

[past lichen]

Yeah like I'm sure it's not ideal comfort-wise, but seems faster and easier than swapping firing hands

[ashen hull]

I was clearing yesterday like butter, just gotta make sure you pick how you're clearing it. I always go left to right although some prefer to swap hands

Frankly it would still work!

[normal grove]

for sure

I'm defintely going to try to do right hand lean peaks with my lefty main hand gunstock setup and see how it feels

If i end up showing more parts of my body doing a right hand peak, then I might consider ditching the stock to swap hands mid-raid

[placid bobcat]

there one guy who stream twitch got and he use lefty hand with left shoulder too. you can too.

[normal grove]

Yeah thats what I do currently

I'm saying that they are adding leaning, and doing a right hand peak as a lefty might be dangerous

cause you show more of your body

[stone cipher]

find the nearest npc and take its gun

[placid bobcat]

yes but just peek lol

[normal grove]

Doing a right hand peak as a lefty might show like 20% more of your body compared to doing a right hand peak as a righty

i mean im honestly overthinking this shit, itll be fine

[gentle palm]

good.

helps eradicate them faster

[placid bobcat]

dont overthinking, keep practice

till we repeat die

then we get it

[pure crown]

Shit I’m 3d printing some grips to fit onto a piece of copper pipe, this was only temporary

[empty jay]

Ah, that works just as well. I would recommend having a lip at the top of each cup so that is rests on your hand while gripping. It adds a lot more stability than you'd expect and feels way better

[static hollow]

I printed my own stock and has been going fairly well (the grips are also compatible with the quest 3)

[empty jay]

If you ever want to buy one, I recommend Ultibrace now, it's $60 which is a lot but cheap for stocks and it's amazing. I love KobraVR Sidewinder but for games where a lot of the grips are quite different it just has a lot of problems. But phenomenal build quality

[empty jay]

Nice, that buttstock was well designed

[static hollow]

Although wish I had designed it to be able to adjust on the fly for different grips which messes up its aim

But not bad considering it’s a 3D print

Definitely worth while if you have access to a 3Dprinter to make one.

[fallen sorrel]

@static hollow I would suggest you set up your sling to mount at 2 points it will make it easier to let it hang against your body

[magic lion]

how do you calibrate the guns they always get messed up when i grab the handle

[bleak folio]

Does anyone know a magnetic gunstock

[royal wagon]

Magtube

The go to gunstock

[floral echo]

magtube

[past lichen]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1277278513/magni-stock-vr-gun-stock-for-valve-index?click_key=ad6f9d341a89cb3fefb092a7a8c47acfa81a214c%3A1277278513&click_sum=307b5575&ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=vr+gunstock+index&ref=sr_gallery-1-16&organic_search_click=1&pro=1&edd=1&referrer_page_guid=f7a96a6e586.83bf8f78f6a4833012f3.00

Magni stock from glistco is on sale for $68 on Etsy if anyone needs a cheaper stock

[dawn shale]

Gunstock makes accuracy like 90% better eh

[royal wagon]

It’s a good tool

[dawn shale]

There’s hope 🥹

I bet it helps with recoil too

[royal wagon]

It lets you use your VR rifle like a real rifle

Four points of contact

Which is not only stable, but fast through muscle memory

You can pull into an the same accurate aiming position very very quickly every time

[static hollow]

It does have 2 points I just need a different strap lol.

[static hollow]

It’s pretty nice would Recommend trying. It does take a little bit to get used to.

It fixes the issue I found in VR shooting games of guns feeling too “floaty” when you play without it

[dawn shale]

Heck yes

Okay, that’ll be enough hope for me to wait for mine to come in 😂

[warm thorn]

Hey does anyone know a good quest 2 stock for sniping that isn’t on Etsy Much appreciated

[void pagoda]

Did they change the way the phys gun stock works in the game?

[normal grove]

yea

[winged nest]

seems

... scuffed

gib onward calibration plz

[normal grove]

i enjoy the weird quirks about it

using mostly akm and mpx w no foregrip

[junior dawn]

yea

[junior dawn]

very nice

[junior dawn]

i just hit a 50m headshot right after drawing my gun from the hip

[placid bobcat]

Nice shot. Any loot he dropped? 😆

[hallow dove]

I randomly decided to attack some people and used a random bolt action with iron sights and one mag and got a 139m headshot while randomly shooting

[rain veldt]

Is the GOT gunstock out for purchase yet?

[fringe moss]

For purchase but it’s a preorder till March iirc

[tawdry vessel]

How different are the grips for the quest 2 vs the quest 3 ? i am going to buy a protubevr stock is there crosscombatibility between any of the options? eg can use quest 2 and 3

[nocturne lotus]

Not yet, preorder will start asap though.

[spring venture]

Run afap to the nearest loot box.
Repeat until find gun.
Be choosy with your prey until you get better gear

[hardy osprey]

No

[dawn shale]

WHATTTTTTT

[dawn shale]

So it’s insane

But so are you too so

[junior dawn]

not really, just a sling and a sks

[junior dawn]

yea gunstock makes this game feel like Call of Duty lmaooo

[dawn shale]

I’m so excited

[junior dawn]

IDK tbh the game became like

less fun after it

[dawn shale]

You’re just that good

[junior dawn]

like im constantly doming gamers on matka and feel overpowered lmao

[dawn shale]

Wtf

Must be hard to be the best

🤣

[junior dawn]

cause earlier it took time to adjust the iron sights properly with hands

and now pretty much they are instantly alinged after picking up the gun

tell you what gunstock + going to a range semi regularly is OP lmaooo

[dawn shale]

Damn????

[dawn shale]

That’s OP

[junior dawn]

yea, althrough guns like SKS need to be offset a bit cause of diffrent geometry

[hazy stirrup]

gun stocks (or at least my protube) feel so cumbersome to me

[dawn shale]

Weak?

[hazy stirrup]

finding the magnets was so annoying

[junior dawn]

thats what I game with lmao

[hazy stirrup]

they weigh like, next to nothing lol

im talkin about finding the magnets for the cups to sit in

plus smacking the ground trying to pick stuff up

[dawn shale]

You think this one’s gonna be good?

[junior dawn]

should be better than mine, except the cost ofc lmaoo

[dawn shale]

……

[junior dawn]

cause you can offset it yourself to get better aim

[dawn shale]

Ohhh yeah

[junior dawn]

mine costed around 10-15 USD

[dawn shale]

Wtf

[junior dawn]

3d printing OP

[hazy stirrup]

real

[dawn shale]

I have a printer but, didn’t wanna print a whole thing

And have no magnets

[junior dawn]

neither do I

[dawn shale]

Look what they did to meeee😭😭😭

[junior dawn]

i just insert the controllers inside the cups when I game

OOF

[hazy stirrup]

i think im gonna try to have my friend print out some of those quick release controller cups to see if it feels better. that way im not dealing with finding magnets and can just slide it into the cup

[hazy stirrup]

bruh you know you can buy used right

💀

[junior dawn]

TBH i just learned to be less greedy, loot less and simply grab what other dudes drop for me lmao

so it is a bit clunky but does the job good enough, went from poverty to having walls of guns

[hazy stirrup]

im a loot goblin and like getting that sweet XP. i like seeing funny numbers go up

[dawn shale]

Ew, some furry prolly would’ve owned it and did weird things using it😭

[junior dawn]

I was also a loot goblin, until having to put the controllers in manually

now I get more loot with less looting

[hazy stirrup]

loot goblin issue on my part then probably. but what you said about the sks is so tru, shit's fucked up and that's one of my main weapons

only chance i have using an SKS is in silo if i use my gunstock

[junior dawn]

if you wanna loot goblin just get a mate to cover your back when you loot - does the job well enough

[placid bobcat]

Dude you shouldn't order Amazon. U should order at their designwebsite

[hazy stirrup]

my friends still suck at the game and i usually end up playing solo mid-raid. if anything, they make good meat shields LOL

[dawn shale]

Their site would take till January-February to arrive

[hazy stirrup]

again, used

[dawn shale]

Furrys though….

[hazy stirrup]

but you have really weird and unrealistic concerns 💀

clean it then if you're that scared

[dawn shale]

I’d have to pay a premium for that

[hazy stirrup]

what is bro talkin bout 🗣️ ⁉️ 🔥

or get a friend with a 3dp and have him do all the work

or make it out of pvc piping

[dawn shale]

Or

Orrrrrr

[hazy stirrup]

or spend $117 on a cheap stick

so bro makes 200% profit

support small businesses!

[dawn shale]

Cheap

Is made out of carbon fiber you lil nut

[hazy stirrup]

im ngl, idk what the prices are on small carbon fiber tubes, but you can still make that exact same thing with a 3dp and some other lightweight material for tubes

[junior dawn]

TBH it really depends on the location

[hazy stirrup]

or weak arm skill issue so you need the carbon fiber tubes

[junior dawn]

in my whole country there is just one shitty stock sold for htc on used things website

and you can simply not have a friend with a 3dp

[hazy stirrup]

my 60 second google search couldn't find any prices that make sense lol

[junior dawn]

and sometimes dudes who 3dp for a price charge astronomical margins (thats part of why I bought a 3dp LMAO)

[hazy stirrup]

from what i've seen in here, people have solved that issue by just buying PVC pipes and making it themselves

[junior dawn]

if I were to buy a warhammer 40k army it would cost me the same as my 3dp
if i were to print it in my hometown it would cost me half the 3dp

[junior dawn]

sometimes tho if you cant be bothered to do it and have lotsa money - why not

[hazy stirrup]

probably not as pretty, but it gets the job done

[junior dawn]

after all - the more revenue we generate as a VR community the more suits are attracted to create stuff like games and hardware for us

sad reality but true - the only language suits talk in is money (source: i am currently studying economics lmao)

[hazy stirrup]

nah i get that. i just think bro has a weird reason for not buying used 💀

[dawn shale]

….

[hazy stirrup]

building one was the only other alternative

[dawn shale]

I’m not the furry here

[hazy stirrup]

same bro

[junior dawn]

well i broke my stock in half and had to glue-tape it together lmaoooo

[hazy stirrup]

bro's goin crazy

[junior dawn]

going to a gym does this stuff to a mf

[hazy stirrup]

bro had enough of tabor and broke his stock

[dawn shale]

What

[junior dawn]

na lmao it's just my grip was a bit too strong for the filament lmao

[dawn shale]

@hazy stirrup my bad for buying a “cheap” stick

👨🏼‍🍳

[hazy stirrup]

you mad

[dawn shale]

Nuh UH

[fringe moss]

Change your orientation so the layer lines aren’t parallel to applied force

[junior dawn]

naa after reinforcing it with epoxy glue and weird strong tape it's all good

[dawn shale]

Y’all love me?

[placid bobcat]

@dawn shale Everyone love you without saying

[dawn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/bobitos-mimis-michis-gif-943529865427663588

[keen yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-neil-primrose-still-waiting-im-still-waiting-waiting-gif-27380282

My 3d printed stock broke AGAIN... patiently waiting for the GoT Mamut Stock to be available

[dawn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-down-notes-writing-memo-gif-17395025

[uncut rapids]

Any tips on calibrating this? can't really get it to work 😦

Do I have to put the left hand lower? higher? on the gun itself?

[royal wagon]

what problems are you having?

[uncut rapids]

So essentially, when I pick up a gun with two hands, it seems to negate my adjustments in the calibration, if I calibrate my gun too high, it makes it so I can't use two hands, if it's too low I can't see the sight picture

Also not being able to grab the gun whilst in calibration mode makes it so I cannot see the picture at all as my off hand is blocking the sight picture

[royal wagon]

the position the gun is shown in the calibration is not what it will be when its done

read the pin with an extensive guide on how the process works

it does not change what your front hand does

do note the part about stragith stocks might not be possible to get a good calibration

this is why adjustable stocks are a must. controller angle and height adjustments

[bold nest]

to match it to the phyiscal gunstock

there is a xyz calibration on there

[uncut rapids]

With my left and right hand?

[bold nest]

its a trigger calirabtion

not both left and right

[uncut rapids]

I see, just my dominant hand, got it

[bold nest]

yeah

it looks pretty steady tho

[silent dagger]

are there any good gunstocks for the quest 3

the virtual one just aint as good

[royal wagon]

magtube

[silent dagger]

holy shit thats expensive

[royal wagon]

buy nice cry once

[static hollow]

Learned this the hard way while yes most of the time my 3D printed stock works good but a lot of the grips throws the aim off where it should be.

But considering it’s a 3Dprint it works well but my next stock I want to be able to adjust it on the fly.

[normal grove]

cheap stocks work for most other games

[dawn shale]

This is GHOST OF TABOR, RAUGHHHHHHH

[fossil lichen]

thanks for this, just bought one

also hi @hazy stirrup didn't expect to see you here lmao

[hazy stirrup]

holy shit this is where you added me from? LMAO

👋

[fossil lichen]

i thought i had you added already tbh

[hazy stirrup]

we added now 😎

[fossil lichen]

okay now i can make you play this game with me

[hazy stirrup]

pls, i need a good team. im tryna make some other friends play but they're basically just my meat shields

[dawn shale]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-down-notes-writing-memo-gif-17395025

[hazy stirrup]

@ me whenever, im down

[spring stirrup]

✨

[uncut rapids]

Yeaaah no, every calibration I have done, my left hand is so far down compared to my right even though I have a straight gunstock?

I'm just frustrated because it's not a cheap gunstock and I don't want to have to buy an adjustable to enjoy the game :/

[royal wagon]

straight stocks are not recommended for the reason you are discovering

the guide pinned in this channel will show you how the tools you have available work, but based on your previous description you've discovered the limitations

with the front hand not being changable via calibration you can only raise or lower your main hands height, and the point in which that makes a straight line for the gun you are using might not be capable

there is no way around this

[warm vapor]

It may only be me, but I've found loading in with a hand rotation pitch of 0 causes the gun to pitch up. Try -1 to see if the pitch corrects

[royal wagon]

hand pitch does not affect the guns position once you have both hands on a gun

and a gunstock calibration sets its own hand pitch

[uncut rapids]

So wait, why does this occur anyway? if both of my controllers are in a straight line, surely adjusting the stock until;

The stock is where my physical stock is

The angle of my off hand matches the grip on the Ak for example

But the moment I say yes, this is good, my off hand is 3 metres below where I need it to be?

[uncut rapids]

I'll try this

[royal wagon]

read the guide in detail

1: the gun given to you in the calibration process is NOT an indication of what that gun will look like when completed, it is a referential guide so you can see the direction and amount of changes that are being made

2: your hands being straight does not account for the offset the guns have when modeling where your hands will go on the gun. they all have a different shape and many weapons will not align by having a straight, unadjustable stock

[modest tide]

this is so confusins so whats th eoint of the calibration process lol

[modest tide]

TBH, I just calibrated each gun type. Then grab a gun and works. On some weapons hand would misalign barely but the moment i grab hte forn of the gun its perfect. It was never so off that I drew issue with it.

[uncut rapids]

But, how did you get it to work?

[royal wagon]

some people have different opinions on what having a stock work properly with a gun means

[uncut rapids]

Why am I upsetting you? I'm just a guy trying to enjoy the game with a gunstock I enjoy playing with and already own

[royal wagon]

whos upset?

[uncut rapids]

It just seems like I've upset you somehow

[modest tide]

TBH, I just calibrated each gun type. Then grab a gun and works. On some weapons hand would misalign barely but the moment i grab hte forn of the gun its perfect. It was never so off that I drew issue with it.

[royal wagon]

not sure why you have that opinion

[uncut rapids]

So you just use a straight tube?

[modest tide]

Yessir, I was using this.

[uncut rapids]

I genuinely have no Idea how you've calibrated it, and I wish people could share what their settings

[royal wagon]

my response was also not directed at you

[uncut rapids]

Ah, seen

[royal wagon]

it was more of an explanation of why smoeone might say 'i have a straight stock and all guns work fine!' without including the details of what their stock is like, what they think "fine" is, and what guns the yuse

see, something like that has no shoulder or cheek rest

[modest tide]

the pic above is what i used and had no issues.

[royal wagon]

if it did, you would find it does not "work" in the way people expect it to with every gun

because you are using it differently

[uncut rapids]

This is mine

[modest tide]

I see no reason as to why a cheek rest or should rest would misalign hand placement lol

[uncut rapids]

I think there should be some sort or implementation of calibration settings sharability

[royal wagon]

i think there is

[fossil lichen]

the main reason i wanted a gunstock was so i could shoulder it and get a third point of contact, it doesn't seem great to attach the controllers together without a stock

[royal wagon]

but its not going to be the same for two people

physical stock will need to match

which means the body also needs to match

but @uncut rapids, the BIG problem you are having understanding this, is that you are getting the expected result with what you are trying to do

you arent doing anything wrong

this is a limitation of using a gunstock that is not sufficiently adjustable in a game that does not allow per gun calibration that overrides the offsets for both hands

and a game that has guns of very different shapes

[uncut rapids]

Yeaaah :/ I'm going to try one more thing and shorten the buttstock as much as possible, because the models ingame are quite short aswell

But I understand, the angles are just not there for me

[modest tide]

i still dont understand why reapers hands arent drawing close to the location after calbration, they should be generally close.

[royal wagon]

thats not how it works

1: your in game hands are modeled after where your hands would be on the controller. your controller itself is not your hands

at least when it comes to their position on a gun

2: the guns have different socket locations (the point where your hand interacts with a gun) and the geometry of that is different for most guns, almost none of them are straight in line

[modest tide]

i wish i could post a video and show you my screen cuz i dont have that issue, im able to grab every single gun when attached to my stock besides a pistol and my mount points are static, not adjustable

[royal wagon]

a lot of this is due to the high level of realism the connection points are modeled after. ie compare two guns like the TAPCO SKS and the old SKS

the TAPCO SKS has a pistol grip style, and if you were holding that in real life your hand would be in a very different shape compared to the old SKS, which has a hunting rifle grip design

the "correct" orientation of that gun for how it was modeled by CWS is dramatically different

[modest tide]

I just built my stock for what felt most like real life when eyes were closed and it worked.

[royal wagon]

im sorry bro, but thats not how this works. you are ignoring a lot of things that were explained to you previously as to why your stock is very different and you are getting different results from other people

you only have two points of contact with your stock, a lot of people have 4

so you adjust the angle that the gun geometry provides by changing the angle your stock points

because you arent shouldering and you arent cheek welding

[uncut rapids]

Well, that's a shame ahaha, I just have insanely shakey hands so have a very large disadvantage, especially in games like this, but it's okay, it's no ones fault, maybe one day they'll come out with some sort

Wait I haven't been adjusting my fucking cheek rest at all

[royal wagon]

improvements to the calibration process will come when more work is spent on developing that feature

[uncut rapids]

Would that help?

[modest tide]

dude worst comes to worst, disconnect buttstock and use it as tube, your aim will still improve massivley

[royal wagon]

for some guns, do you want to adjust it for each gun?

some of them you'll need to change the angle

dont think you can do that with your stock

[uncut rapids]

I cannot

[modest tide]

so when you have both controllers on stock and a gun in your shooting hand, you arent able to grab the front grip in game whil controller is mounted to stock?

[royal wagon]

thats not the problem

the problem is when he does that, the shoulder/butt is not usable

in order to straighten out the gun eh has to do what you do, which is lower or raise your back hand a lot, and lose all functionality of the back end

what i do, is make a quick step adjustment on my front hand and lower the position of the front tube

or in a few guns cases, raise

my gunstock is designed that way, as this has been a known feature requirement for gunstocks for 7 years

[modest tide]

see I dont expereince that at all, i realize im not shoulder mounting it but my hands are not dramatically tilted at any point in time to aim straight with any weapon i Use. My front grip is just about an inch lower than my back and after calibration when i draw my gun it levels when i level, Also, im not sure how the code effects it but i see changes after calibrating even with physical stock option turned off.

[royal wagon]

having your controllers not be perfectly level is part of that

but you'll find you are changing how you hold the stock if you were to pay close enough attention

the guns in this game are not shaped the same

[modest tide]

do you have physical stock option on? have you tried turning it off and calibrating or using virtual stock. I heard some people saying cahed files get saved that can mess with your settings regardless of wheree you have them set to.

[fossil lichen]

god bless this part

[royal wagon]

lvnky you are just wrong about this, you dont know it because of the limited exposure you have to things different than what you use

[uncut rapids]

Weirdly.... He was right

I put virtual gunstock on, and used my other magnet so my controller is flat, not saying it would work for every gun, but, as platforms are good for now

[royal wagon]

virtual gunstock and no gunstock calibration will work differently

and can get around the problem of having a fixed gunstock

[modest tide]

how so?

[royal wagon]

one simulates having no actual gunstock but trying to add additional stability to aiming through software changes

gunstock calibration just changes the rear hand offset for guns

[modest tide]

Hey rage, do you work with this game studio or how do you know this?

[royal wagon]

i know this because ive been doing VR stuff for a very, very long time

and i know how to figure out how things work

[modest tide]

appreciate all the info as well, been troublshooting on my own time a ton finding fixes hidden behind invisible walls lol

i read a thread where a dev recommended deleted cahed saved files if you are having issues with calibration

[royal wagon]

it wasnt a dev, it was probably me 🙂

gunstock calibration is saved in playersettings.sav

[modest tide]

it was days and days ago so im not 100% hahaha

[modest tide]

10-4

[royal wagon]

the devs dont talk much in here or about gunstock calibration much in general

[modest tide]

ive got the mamut apto in the mail as i just picked up index controllers so prepping for buttstock stuff lol going fro, vive wands to these has been a blessing lol

[royal wagon]

then you'll start to see how a fixed gunstock with no butt is very different from an adjustable gunstock that you want to get a cheek weld with works

follow the guide when you get to that point

[modest tide]

100%

[hazy stirrup]

that's exactly what i thought too, but having to find the magnets when you're basically blindfolded irl makes it pretty annoying, even with practice

but probably a skill issue on my part

[untold star]

SAF gunstock build that works well 🤗😆😅

[hazy stirrup]

you should put some kinda pad to make some form of a stock lol

[untold star]

Yeah .. i plán to add sponge from bathroom 🤣

[hazy stirrup]

that's nasty bro, just go buy some foam LOL

[untold star]

Lol not used one

[hazy stirrup]

ya i figured after i said that but still, it'd be better to have something sturdier

that way you can pull the gun to your shoulder and keep it more stable and comfortable rather than just poking yourself with a pole

[untold star]

Yup good point this is proto build for checking. After this i must think about the mounting system and Then i make gunstock from metal

To give some weigth realism to me

[hazy stirrup]

i have a cheap backup gunstock that im probably gonna cut up the controller cups so i can just slip the controllers out the side

maybe this'll solve my magnet searching issues lol

[untold star]

Or i can simply print something And insert metal to match weight

[untold star]

Nice

[modest tide]

hey as far as magnets, home depot or anyone sould have them, get the 18mmx3mm neomydium magnets. They wrok great, stacking 2 will oincrease the pull force and feels amazing.

[hazy stirrup]

my issue is reattaching the controllers to the magnets, not actually buying magnets lol

[modest tide]

whats the issue you are having? like finding the magnet position when in vr?

[hazy stirrup]

finding magnet positions lmao

or well, more like finding them fast enough

[modest tide]

yeah, so if you stack 3 magnets up on stock, one on controller, it will have a higher pull force and you wont miss. I did this and it worked amazing. I never miss my spot even with eyes closed

[hazy stirrup]

im way faster with virtual gunstock (until they broke it)

[modest tide]

i was having the same issue before this, added almost no extra weight either, just increased pull force in same range so whenever id get within a couple inches it would pull me in no issue, I even have my meganet slotted and it still finds it without issue. Basically when you stack a magnet for the first 2 or 3 it will nearly double the pull force it has which helps with location a ton, trust.

[hazy stirrup]

i'll try to find some magnets and try that out then. for now, ima try cutting up my controller cups on my old stock to see how well i do with that. i feel like it'll be much easier for me to just squeeze my hand to attach the controllers rather then searching for the magnets while basically blindfolded

[modest tide]

yeah i had that same issue before stacking and now no longer have the issue at all.

[hazy stirrup]

plus, im using a quest 2 so i have my gunstock adjusted to where my off-hand is higher than my primary hand for tracking

feels a lot less natural than grabbing a gun irl

[modest tide]

totally, highy recommend the magnet stacking. It completely solved my issue. I can take some pics of my magnets so you can see what im saying. Whnever i get even clos i can feel the pull force in the direction, hard to explain. Its like you cant miss lol

[hazy stirrup]

i'll take a look at home depot tho this weekend probably to see if i can find more magnets

also ya lemme see how you have those magnets stacked

cause in the protube, they have a hole through it to be screwed in

[modest tide]

copy that, will send when i get home 🙂

[fossil lichen]

are there any gunstocks that take real rifle stocks?

[royal wagon]

that would be a big downgrade from quality options right now

[hazy stirrup]

i've never seen a gunstock with a buffertube

[royal wagon]

your weight balance would get messed up, and you would be losing some adjustability

[hazy stirrup]

im sure you could turn a plastic airshit gun into a working gun stock if you really wanted to have the feel of an actual rifle, but that sounds like a lot of work lmfao

[royal wagon]

you wouldnt get the feel of a rifle

[fossil lichen]

just curious, i have a few stocks just laying around

[hazy stirrup]

if you put the controllers where you'd hold the rifle, it'd be close enough, plus you'd have that heft ig

[royal wagon]

you'd have to have some kind of protrusion to adapt the controller to the gun, its going to throw everything off

"close enough" meaning inaccurate

[hazy stirrup]

yep

[royal wagon]

it would be a huge downgrade towards the objective of making it feel more real

[hazy stirrup]

i never said it was a good idea LMAO

[royal wagon]

its a counterproductive tactic

[fossil lichen]

neither did i, i just asked if it existed