🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[analog osprey]

All the halfstocks don’t seem to work for me in ghost of tabor if I use irons I can aim but if I use a optics my vision is too low

[exotic yacht]

If you’re really on a budget then a stick and tennis ball. I personally use the glistco magni stock and have had it for 2 years. Works good still even though the cups are falling apart

Magni Stock + - VR Carbon Fiber Controller Stock Rifle Adapter compatible with Meta Quest 2 / Quest Pro/Quest https://a.co/d/hbNppIe

Looks like they’ve made a new model. Not sure I like that it hinges in the middle

[graceful peak]

How is it for tabor? Is it a hassle to remove the controllers when looting?

[exotic yacht]

Nope it's magnetic so you stick your controllers in these cups and whenever you want you can take it off

[thorn dove]

thats what i have aswell

[exotic yacht]

do you have a ridged center connecting piece or does it hinge

[thorn dove]

it wobbles yeah i know its pretty annoying

its the screw

[exotic yacht]

mine doesn't bc it's ridged. I wonder why they changed that it seems pretty dumb

[thorn dove]

Nvm tape does the same thing

[cerulean lantern]

ANybody running a modus R with quest 3 controllers? trying to get a pic of the most recent mounting location?

[fiery flicker]

Any gunstock that you can do with tape still helps

[vapid gyro]

Dose anyone know a good gun stock

[wheat hinge]

should I get a protube gunstock for the quest 2?

[proven tendon]

So, has CW realsed their gunstock yet?

[fiery flicker]

Nope

https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1177706675055104000 upvote this

[royal wagon]

magtube @vapid gyro @wheat hinge

[wheat hinge]

That’s what I meant

[royal wagon]

best stock

[wheat hinge]

Fax

[hardy osprey]

It is complete (beside magnets

[frosty ferry]

Do you guys recommend any cheapish gunstocks? I heard they're good

[royal wagon]

No. Get a Magtube

[frosty ferry]

And what about on tabors site, are either of the stocks any good?

[dusty valve]

Cool where you find that?

[hardy osprey]

Thingaverse

[spring venture]

the one on tabors site looks amazing for contractors and pavlov and onward but not for this game at least not until they make gunstock calibration more in depth

if you like to hold guns with a u clamp rather than a c clamp the tabor raidr stock does fall short of the magtube

but in terms of ergonomics and effectiveness its gonna be better than a magtube i believe

one other shortcoming it may have is immersion with smgs

thats not a big deal though as the magtube isnt much better

[normal grove]

This leads me to believe an update for gunstocks calibration might come when their official gunstock comes out.

[spring venture]

Ayo lemme ask does anyone else have the inherent issue with base station vr when you are using a gunstock and as you rotate the aim gets thrown off left and right the more you rotate

Im pondering a different setting for gunstock users

[graceful peak]

Cool, I’ll look into it. Thanks!

Dam it, it can't be shipped to Sweden-

[grizzled oriole]

If I'm not mistaken, the Sanlaki rotational blocker resolves this issue https://sanlaki.shop/collections/all/products/add-on-rotational-blocker

[thin thistle]

Check out VR-HS at Exact3d with the SMG upgrade. works with all guns

[zealous totem]

I’m so excited to get my magtube sometime soon

[lunar dome]

@thick hatch yeah im trying to set up my new gun stock and I noticed it moves right or left without me actually moving at times also

[frigid sphinx]

This is awesome

[lunar dome]

Is using the in game gunstock calibration required or can you get away without it? It seems a bit buggy based on looking at previous comments here and the pinned messages

[lime dew]

i suggest using it

[lunar dome]

Cool thanks. Yeah think it just takes some time to tweak and adjust it to get it set properly I'm guessing.

[lime dew]

yeah

[lunar dome]

Anyone out there using the ModusR gunstock from 3Daptive?

[hardy osprey]

I could probably sell them for $20

Good luck to them

[tired dew]

Just copped this. How do u like it

[quick oar]

What is da Best budget gun stock

[fleet cipher]

can someone buy me a shotgun with one shell

[spring venture]

What if the gunstock mode in game didnt use both hands but just the main hand. So that rotating wouldnt throw off the aim of the gun

If you havent noticed. Iirc the aim doesnt move left or right while rotating when you only have one hand attached

Maybe not though

[jagged bough]

What is a good gun stock to get

[lunar dome]

As someone who recently came to this channel with the same question(like many others), i found it helpful to read the pinned messages for this channel first since there are some good recommendations and tips.

from there, id figure out your budget and what other games you might be using it for. i am far from an expert on VR gun stocks but being able to provide some of that extra info will help any of the more knowledgeable folks here give ya some recommendations im sure.

[blissful isle]

Anyone have a magtube? Options on them? I was gonna wait for the GoT one but still nothing announced

[royal wagon]

yes, magtube rules, ez win

[blissful isle]

I have a quest 2 with custom grips, is it easy to loot and what not with it?

[royal wagon]

yep

[agile sleet]

is Combat Waffle making a gunstock

for Q3

[regal canopy]

They have one on their site you can buy already

[upbeat compass]

lfg for ghost of tabor

[thick pagoda]

Share the files??

[hardy osprey]

They are on thingaverse

[fringe moss]

I have one coming soon

[wanton cliff]

Hey anyone know a good gun stock for quest 2 to play ghost of tabor

[royal wagon]

magtube

[wanton cliff]

Ok thanks

[spring venture]

So it turns out that one handing your guns doesnt help the aim being thrown off left and right while rotating. But what does seem to help is aiming perfectly in between your base stations. When you do that you have more room to rotate before it starts to get thrown off. When you are pointed directly toward one base station however. The aim will move side to side as soon as you start rotating. And im pretty sure having 4 base stations minimizes that effect as much as possible also i believe the biggest and tallest room you can use is best to get rid of that problem also

[normal grove]

High basestations and more than 2 is great for lighthouse tracking

[royal wagon]

having more than 2 base stations is the solution to this issue

there is a big drop in the precision when your body blocks one of the base stations, and you will notice the jump, and then you will notice a different jump when you reacquire 2 base stations

make sure you mount them on the ceiling pointing towards the center of your playspace

and make sure you have at least 3, beacuse otherwise you cannot guarantee that you always have 2 base stations of tracking coverage

i have 4 and its worth it

[static jungle]

I have the worst gunstock known to man

[spring venture]

i have 3 and i feel like im always aiming at the one corner in my room that doesnt have one

[nocturne lotus]

It's a collab between Combat Waffle and Mamut, new product (still backwards compatible of course).

[agile sleet]

how do u buy it though cause for me when i press add to cart it just takes me to the page on it

[nocturne lotus]

It's not done yet, and pre orders haven't started.
Hopefully will shortly though.

[agile sleet]

oh okay thanks

[zealous girder]

Is there like 3D printed rail mounts to attach the controllers or something?

[stark basin]

whats the best gunstock i could buy rn

[blissful isle]

I just ordered the mamut wasp

https://www.mamutvr.com/products/apto-wasp-base-add-controller-option?variant=39728414654598

[royal wagon]

magtube

[velvet lagoon]

What’s a good but cheap stock for quest 2

[faint vector]

What’s the best gunstock to get? Under 45 dollars

[fringe moss]

Magtube, Modus R, and Kobra

[fringe moss]

iStock or the pvc diy

I have heard some conflicting info about magnets impacting the Quest 3 controllers, which is why Modus says he doesn’t use them on that version

[mild jetty]

@agile sleet how did you get your tag of ghosts

[stark basin]

roles and select ghost fenix or volk

[light shore]

did they update the calibration yet?

was terrible when I tried it when it first came out

[wooden radish]

anyone else struggling with gunstock setup?

got a protube but for the life of me when i cal9brate my guns as soon as i pick up a diffrent style assult rifle the cal is waaaay off

not to mention my gun onndefault aims waay off to one side

do devs have any plans to improve stock calibration? currently after readin thenpins with my issues its a rough system. im basically worse tryong tomuse a stock vs freehamding 😦

[thin thistle]

Im about to release one thats £49.99 and works with all guns in all games. Its called the VR-HS Lite. Keep an eye ouy on exact3d.co.uk. Completley new design

[molten fog]

noice

[pure crown]

Came across https://wieldvr.com/ in youtube shorts. Anybody ordered it or tried it? Looks pretty damn good! Here is the video i stumbled upon: https://youtube.com/shorts/RYKvon9BuDQ?si=tXjpmacSFma_PYig

[formal nimbus]

Like i got toxic smoke stock i had some problems with certain gun but adjusting the angle of the controller cups i managed to fix it maybe ifbu try

[empty goblet]

i have calibrated my gunstock with the ak74 (physical gunstock calibration in the menues), but all other weapons like m4, akm, etc are now unusable for me because i can no longer aim with them?

or is there a way to calibrate each weapon individually?

[sour zephyr]

I got the magni stock + a few months ago and I can snipe insane now, can’t go without it

[hardy osprey]

Users I call for your help in my inquiry.

Quest 3 with quest pro controllers, what gunstock do you run or will it cause issues with the bottom sensor?

[royal wagon]

magtube

and no

[hardy osprey]

Got pictures?

[royal wagon]

check their website, you can see the cups they use and how they are designed to handle all of the sensors. the CEO of protubes main VR setup is quest pro controllers

[hardy osprey]

Dang they are expensive

[royal wagon]

i dont think they are expensive, they have all of the features you need and it will be something that lasts

[surreal quarry]

Here my one handed "istock"
5 length settings.
Real cross comfortable.

Upgradable with magnetic cap for do same thing for 2 handed!

[royal wagon]

there is not, you can only calibrate an entire class of guns with the same offset

[royal wagon]

you get your issues sorted out?

aiming to the side on a protube just means you need to adjust the rotation of the magnet mounts, adjust each slightly to the outside until you get the alignment right

[empty goblet]

https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1178718562857271386 can we get some upvotes on this so that the devs notice it?

[royal wagon]

the devs are aware

gunstocks are not useless, nor is the calibration

[hardy osprey]

There you go I downvoted on it for you

[empty goblet]

they arent uselss.. but you cant calibrate it for all weapons and thats just stupid af...

[empty goblet]

and instead of downvoting you could write what you don't like about it, or suggest a better solution... it's not that i'm trying to farm reddit upvotes here, i just want to improve the game with the suggestion

[royal wagon]

people cant comment in suggestions

per gun calibration will come in time when more time in spent on developing the gunstock calibration further, there are other things higher priority that are getting more development time

[empty goblet]

for sure there is higher priorities xD game is a mess

still fun tho

[small frigate]

Does istock work well with tabor?

Thinking about getting it it's 20% off on amazon rn i think 39.99

[royal wagon]

you'll get extremely varied opinions on that

in my opinion it doesnt provide any benefit

ive heard it is extremely fragile, and is going to do very, very little for stability

[small frigate]

ic, good budget reccomendation?

max 50 usd

[royal wagon]

i dont have any i would recommend in that budget

[small frigate]

yikes 😬 probably not willing to blow more than 50 for a gunstock, ty for the opinion lol

[royal wagon]

https://www.protubevr.com/en/vr-accessories/178-6207-starter-short-gunstock.html#/489-sta_2_color-carbon_cups/495-sta_1_tube-carbon_tube/620-sta_0_brand-meta_quest_3_pro

[spring venture]

You could try to copy the one they are making for ghosts of tabor. If you have some skills and a workshop

Would end up being cheaper than 50 bucks in the end if you put in the work also

[small frigate]

Ah, sorry mate I use a G2, not a quest 😔

Checked the etsy out though, looks really good. Might look into it if you offer a G2 option eventually

[tired dew]

How’s this work if I just bout the 87 eu one?? I would like one that works with tabor way better

[frail pawn]

Is there a trick to nerds printer...I can get it to work like 1 out of 50 attempts

Like the cannabis just won't snap in

Woops wrong chat

[earnest magnet]

Load to market and back, I find it won’t snap into the machine if I go into storage

[cloud vector]

what is a good gunstock

[sleek pecan]

so what should i do if the mp40 doesn't work with my gunshot like the barrel is angled so high

and most of the msgs besides mp5 and mp40

[terse oak]

Hey I saw a gunstock on tiktok the other day by a company called CgripVR was wondering if anyone had heard anything about them

[boreal carbon]

you need to recal everytime you switch loadouts rn

[terse oak]

Ah ok, yeah I figured I’d ask cuz it looks really good and it’s only 40$

[rose otter]

Anyone have any calibration tips? I'm struggling to hit anythign and I think my calibration may be off. ADS looks mostly right, but in my recording my gun is super high on the screen for some reason

[copper ore]

anyone has gunface stock with Quest 3? It seems to fit for tabor as it goes half and is quite well priced

[urban hemlock]

haven’t heard great things but i’ve never used one

[granite helm]

hello everyone can ssomeone tell me if the gun stock works for index ????

[visual sorrel]

I'd be willing to try that one needs a couple sling attachment points though

[terse oak]

Yea I think me and a buddy are gonna get one especially since you can use pump shotguns with it

The pistol grip on the side is a really nice touch as well imo

[copper ore]

yeah, but seems like Quest 3 version got just released and there is a -25% discount. might give a shot

[urban hemlock]

your call👍

[visual sorrel]

Lmk how it is I've been looking for something different to use

[rare otter]

im wanting to get my first gunstock anybody know some good ones

[copper ore]

FREEDOMSTOCK looks really nice, but is quite expensive and seems to be out of stock. damn it is hard to choose 🙂

[normal grove]

been grateful for my calibrating magtube stock as the dev team works on optimizing in-game gun calibration

[glossy crane]

Hey I finally got a magtube it I’m struggling to set it up. I know gun calibration isn’t perfect at the moment. But when I set it up for the AK for example and I then take an AK with nothing on and try to aim. It’s really really badly off. Any hints ?

[ashen hull]

Hello everyone, are there any gun stocks here that work with Quest 3 and does anyone genuinely suggest them?

[floral echo]

magtube

buy once cry once. the end.

[sand tide]

anyone have a diy gunstock design?

[royal wagon]

Read the pin in this channel for a guide on how to use the calibrator

[lethal sinew]

I got one here:
#1123529753274634251 message

[sterile ingot]

what is the best gun stock to get for your first and not to much money

[sand tide]

too much as in under 100 or 200?

[sterile ingot]

under 100

[sand tide]

none is under 100, try using the hard center of toilet paper and some pipe or hanger

[sterile ingot]

ok how about 100 to 180

[sand tide]

try that first😫

[proper cipher]

you can make one from pvc pipe for under $20

[fringe moss]

Modus R

[stray ivy]

ey bros what's the best affordable gunstock for quest 2

[formal nimbus]

Toxicsmoke stock

I can give u his dc name and u add him since admins banned him for nothing

[formal nimbus]

He sells it for like 35 usd and depending for you u would pay like 5 or 10 usd for shipping

[stray ivy]

what is it made out of

[old girder]

any suggestions on where i should buy a gunstock?

[royal wagon]

magtube, from their website

[copper ore]

seems like shipping cost to Europe is about the same as the product costs, auch 😦

[obsidian sage]

whats the best gunstock for quest 2

[stable falcon]

What is a good stock around 100 bucks give or take

[fringe moss]

Modus R

He restocks regularly on his Etsy page

[stable falcon]

It’s out of stock atm but I’ll check back later to see if he did any other suggestions in the meantime

[fringe moss]

KobraVR or if you want something cheap iStock or DIY

Or the Magtube CQB kit

It with smg stock, and grips is just over $100

[stable falcon]

I looked at magtube the pro tube is on sale for 114 is that a good stock I’ve heard about it a good bit

[fringe moss]

Yeah and that price is in Euro btw

Modus has easier adjustments but magtube is a more premium option and possibly better construction (debatable but stating)

[stable falcon]

Yeah 114 is the converted price

[royal wagon]

i recommend getting the carbon tubes

[stable falcon]

Is there much difference

[royal wagon]

the weight is better, but more importantly, chrome is really slippery, and you might have to put like masking tape on it so you can get it in place without cranking down super hard

[stable falcon]

Is it enough difference to justify the 50 odd dollars extra

[tired dew]

Has anyone else found that the physical gunstock is useless and you just need to use the gunstock irl but not use the setting itself

[normal grove]

I don't use the in-game gunstock calibration at all

[royal wagon]

no, gunstocks are great and the gunstock calibration is fine as well

you just need to understand how it works, the instructions do not give detail on that. there is a pin in this channel on how to use it

[autumn oxide]

Whats a good budget stock?

[tired dew]

I’m telling u bro I understand how it works the shit don’t work

[royal wagon]

if you understood how it works you wouldnt say that

what problem are you having specifically and what stock do you have

im going to guess you have a stock that doesnt support the minimum recommended features

ie a straight stock with no adjustments

[cyan jolt]

Is there any good gunstocks on amazon?

[small bobcat]

@royal wagon are you saying a straight stock is not recommended? Sorry if I’m misunderstanding

[royal wagon]

correct

due to the realistic gun geometry each gun has, trying to use it with a straight stock results in very different vertical alignments that are difficult to impossible to correct

at least if you want a cheek weld

[sleek pecan]

how do you calibrate a gunstock

[royal wagon]

check the pin for a detailed guide on how it all works and how to make the most of it

[tired dew]

Who u talkin too

[royal wagon]

you

[tired dew]

So is it the fact that I don’t know how it works or the stock I have? Kinda seems like ur just talking shit and not trying to help

[royal wagon]

i wrote an extensive guide on how to use the calibration system and have enjoyed the results of what can be done for several hundred hours

[tired dew]

And

[royal wagon]

you've said its useless and that it doesnt work

[tired dew]

Are you saying the straight stock is the issue? Gonna just try to move past our chats

[royal wagon]

Yes. Straight stocks will not wrok well with how accurately the gun->hand placements are modeled, and the calibration can fall short because it doesn’t change your front hand position

Non adjustable stocks were not considered sufficiently featured when they vr stocks became a thing 7 years ago

[void whale]

Controllers aint installed rn but they are magnetic

[tired dew]

I bought the exact3d one also along side the Amazon one I got

[pure crown]

I really wish we could get a raider stock video review. Would be pretty nice if there is already one out someone please @ me with the link

[shy mulch]

Have you had a chance to use it yet? I ordered mine a few days ago and waiting for it to get here

[visual sorrel]

Planning on getting this for my next gun stock

[primal tulip]

Y'all know about that magni stock on amazon?

The magnets wear slighty after a few month

But it works great and is on par with my reaction time

[hollow zinc]

This is pretty legit for games like this https://www.etsy.com/listing/1493962477/ultibrace-bravo-kit-pro-level-vr

https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=Y2JeEyYGfHYk0nmx

[hollow zinc]

That thing looks awesome for Breachers IMO. For GoT you need something adjustable

[hollow zinc]

Mine works for it.

[visual sorrel]

What needs to be adjustable?

@hollow zinc

[fringe moss]

Your foregrip

[visual sorrel]

Okay the one he showed doesn't even have a foregrip

I have a half stock like that and I don't want another one

[fringe moss]

No foregrips is better than fixed

The stability your dominant hand provides by being shoulder braced still gives you two points of contact

[granite helm]

Where can I get it

[visual sorrel]

Not having a front grip is not better than having a front grip that literally cannot sway because it's locked into a stock I know from experience because I have one of those that only connects to one controller

The question I originally had wasn't even for you I don't know why you're spinning and whirling on it so hard for this guy

Stop typing bro conversation's over I will not reply to you

[fringe moss]

Considering fixed straight line stocks have a known “buggy” interaction due to the way the guns grip, yes it can cause you more headache that you had before. #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

The one he showed is weird and looks like it has a handle for the foregrip and can be adjusted sideways for a canted grip.
Lol idk why you are so bent

[visual sorrel]

Because I was asking the guy who pinged me why it wasn't a general question It was specifically for him to answer and you jumped on his meat and rode it all the way here

[fringe moss]

Dude get off your horse. Dude litterally said that message several above his message even if you had scrolled up before asking

[bleak wagon]

what is a virtual gunstock?

[hollow zinc]

All the angles. Helps you feel comfortable and also to line up your guns

[hollow zinc]

Kinda weird looking when you have the forearm brace on but works absurdly well for VR. https://youtu.be/1m-wDsdlC-A?si=PIZjLlDdTgqlsWOF

[fringe moss]

It simulates you having a physical stock

It is buggy on quest though

[fringe moss]

I could see that, just grabbing it seems like it would be a bit awkward

I assume it’s more of a hook your thumb deal

[fringe moss]

So more or less reference points vs mounting points

[hollow zinc]

You can have a foregrip. It's modular. The forearm brace provides off hand stability with less hassle. It's in the video I keep linking

[hollow zinc]

You don't grab it, you rest your forearm on it and your hand is perfectly aligned in space with the grab point for guns. Feels and works amazing and eliminates all controller smashing when reloading etc. Also allows you to adjust how far you're grabbing while still having stability

https://youtu.be/bSUZ7xrKaF8?si=tjaM5xUDc9gqzZpN

There i explain it. But Skuzzys video is better

[fringe moss]

I see now

Ngl I would be afraid of breaking it

[hollow zinc]

It's absurdly well tested at this point

[fringe moss]

I love the idea though makes perfect sense

[hollow zinc]

I've got some major players using it literally all over the world. It's tough.

Check out the other video I linked by that YouTuber Skuzzy.

[fringe moss]

Gets you 3 points of contact for maximum vertical stability which is the most important part and that’s cool.

[hollow zinc]

https://www.etsy.com/shop/BrandoDrumVR

[hollow zinc]

Cool, mod the game for maximum compatibility

Or have some adjustments

[shy mulch]

Do you have a link to this stock?

[visual sorrel]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1585617894/cgrip-virtual-reality-gun-stock-for-all?click_key=0184963128f6271a094704d85163dca19b58b021%3A1585617894&click_sum=06f8f644&ref=shop_home_feat_1&frs=1&bes=1

[tired dew]

In the same boat at you

[pliant path]

is this good for tabor?

[floral echo]

Improved VR gameplay with enhanced gunstock calibration.

👀

[glad scroll]

what did they change with the gunstock calibration?

[visual sapphire]

i dn but i hear its all messed up. im nervous now

[mint parrot]

Best gun stock to buy?

[royal wagon]

Magtube

[floral echo]

magtube

[last sable]

Where can I buy magtube

[royal wagon]

Their website, their shipping is faster than Amazon

[mental niche]

Super curious to see if the patch made it possible to use my sanlaki finally.. sick of getting beat by guys on island at long range lol

[royal wagon]

They have a sale going on right now

[last sable]

What website

[royal wagon]

https://www.protubevr.com

[floral echo]

I live in the Midwest and it shipped from France on a Monday and I got it Wednesday.

DHL king

[last sable]

Thx

[proper cipher]

i'm still torn between magtube and tabor stock lol

[mental niche]

I wouldn't buy anything until the dust settles on this game development, what works now could be broken next patch

I super regret buying the sanlaki stock

[proper cipher]

the tabor stock would be usable in other shoorters 😛

both would

atm i'm just using a poverty stock i made with pvc pipes lol

[mental niche]

yeah I mean, that's the idea, but I'm just saying things are changing rapidly so I wouldn't invest anything you aren't okay with possibly being a waste later

[mint parrot]

When can we buy the tabor stock

[mental niche]

has anyone actually tested the new calibration system to see what's different? Please God I hope they fixed the SKS lol

[mint parrot]

When can we buy the tabor stock

[royal wagon]

soon, nobody has any more specifics than that

[warm wedge]

anybody has the issue after gunstock calibration, that left hand is pointing downwards?

do i have to do that trick with removing game data?

[royal wagon]

read the pin, i havent reviewed gunstock changes yet

[warm wedge]

I mean - I've had that before today's patch

[royal wagon]

deleting your savegame file is probably a good idea with the amount of changes that happened there

[warm wedge]

however it started yesterday...

haven't had that problem previously :X

I love your pinned post btw 😉

[fringe moss]

This is what I’m running https://www.etsy.com/listing/911983863/3daptive-modusr-vr-gunstock-meta-quest

[mint parrot]

Wait we need to delete save game files ?

[royal wagon]

did you experience something that would indicate you need to delete your savegame file?

[warm wedge]

yeah I've found a lot of questions about that left hand pointing :x but cannoy find final solution

[royal wagon]

can you show me your stock and a clip of what you are seeing?

[warm wedge]

I have Sanlaki, I've been using it for couple of days without any tracking issue etc

but since yesterday, when I calibrate the gunstock, go to the market, come back, check if everything is fine - then reload the game

sometimes after grabbing a weapon, left hand is pointing down, let me make a screenshot brb

okay I've solved it - so yesterday I've did "wrong" calibration (without restarting), so it was buggy, so I've changed the hand pitch offset to 30, now somehow when I've set it back to 0, restarted the game, enabled physical gunstock, everything looks OK

[royal wagon]

oh, yeah, hand pitch should be a single digit number

[lethal sinew]

Pinned a good explanation on resetting the gunstock calibration.

[pure crown]

I had a problem with the calibration in my homemade gunstock. Worked perfectly on virtual desktop but just didn't like it on air link would use a down grip and the rifle would just pull down

[rose otter]

I'm scared to mess with the new calibration lol... I finally got it to a decent place yesterday and I saw a bug report that it's borked

[royal wagon]

the likelyhood that a bug report provided is accurate about anything, especially something advanced like the gunstock calibration, is quite low

[loud tartan]

where is the file on Quest?

[royal wagon]

not individually accessible, delete your savagame file, steps are pinned in #❓・questions

[loud tartan]

Ah, Kirk's post seemed to be implying having developer mode on allowed deleting that 1 file by itself without deleting the app cache. I guess I'll wait till I clear out my missions then.

[rose otter]

Haha you're not wrong there

[empty goblet]

am i the only one who dont like playing tabor with gunstocks?

[royal wagon]

yes

[pure crown]

prolly why u get rolled

[empty goblet]

? just wanted to talk about that cuz i cant decide if i want to keep mine or return it

[proper cipher]

what is it you don't like about it?

[royal wagon]

what kind do you have? the design of the stock will weigh heavily on your experience

[proper cipher]

figure out if it's a getting used to it issue, a setup issue, or if you just don't lilke stocks issue

[empty goblet]

in a pure fps shooter its nice. but for tabor you have to loot stuff, my hands are all over the place, but not my gun stock

[royal wagon]

indeed, so a good gunstock design is critical

[empty goblet]

and if i realy do need a gun fast there no way im gonna get it in time

got protube

[royal wagon]

how long have you had it?

[proper cipher]

i don't even have that kind of isue with my povertystock lol

[royal wagon]

getting the right physical calibration is essential towards usability

i have a magtube and i wouldnt dream of playing without it

i'd quit VR first

[proper cipher]

what is it that stops you getting to your gun quickly?

awkward hand positions on teh tube? not having teh muscle memory yet to snap in place?

[empty goblet]

both idk xD

[proper cipher]

that's the kind of thing you should think about 😛

if you don't know why you don't like something how are you gonna know if it's you just not liking the thing or if you just need to get used to it?

[empty goblet]

also that gunstock flips upside down when i pick things up from the floor.. kinda breaks immersion when you have to think about that damn gunstock all the time. how am i supposed to connect the controllers when i dont even know if its upside down or not xD

[proper cipher]

don't you keep 1 hand on the stock at all times?

[empty goblet]

how do i loot stuff with 1 hand?

[proper cipher]

you don't, you hsould be able to keep one controler snapped and still use that hand

[empty goblet]

oh

im feeling stupid now

[proper cipher]

well give that a go see how it feels after a few raids lol

[royal wagon]

the only changes im seeing to the gunstock calibration is that it seems more consistent on saving properly and not preventing you from grabbing your gun afterwards

[torpid carbon]

did they change the settings my old settings got changed and now i wehn i calibrate my gun is not pointing right or its to high

[royal wagon]

my old gunstock calibration was unchanged

its possible something with the new update made your savegame unhappy, delete it and try again

[torpid carbon]

i just spend 2 hours in calibrate and i dont get it how it should be

[royal wagon]

read the guide in the pins, its still accurate

[proper cipher]

would be nice if you could just calibrate every single gun individually

it'd take a while but you could just go through in batches

[royal wagon]

i just wiped my savegame and did a new rifle calibration in 3 steps

took about 2 minutes

[proper cipher]

so yeah about an hourish if you could do all the guns individually and wanted to do it in 1 go

[torpid carbon]

na man i calibrated and somtime my gun is just pointing from the right to the left now evin in a straigt line

[royal wagon]

understanding how the calibration system works, and what it can do, and what your physical gunstock needs to do achieve your desired effect, is critical towards using an advanced user accessible feature like the gunstock calibration

gunstock calibration does not affect left or right orientation, your controller position and angle is the only thing that affects that

i just reloaded my old savegame

all the stuff works the same as it did before, at least on index

[torpid carbon]

u can do that ?

[royal wagon]

its just a file

[torpid carbon]

oh on pcvr

[royal wagon]

you could probably do it on quest too

it contains things like your height setting, gunstock calibration, sound settings, etc

[proper cipher]

only way would be to find it using sidequest on pc

[torpid carbon]

hmm

then i try it later again i guess

[bleak wagon]

anyone tried the Cgrip stock?

[royal wagon]

its non adjustable, which is not recommended

[shy mulch]

Ordered one last night and should have it in about a week and a half. I’m anxious to hear if anyone has used it as well

[bleak wagon]

im on the edge about ordering

price seems decent compared to stocks on the market

[shy mulch]

That’s what I was going thinking. For $40 it’s worth a try

[rose otter]

I will say @empty goblet I struggled at first too. My first stock was a Kobra sidwinder. Concept was great but the back controller was locked in, and it was so bulky I couldn't reload without smashing my controller onto the stock.

I have a magtube now and I wasn't sure at first either. Now i love it.

A few things:

1. Make sure the sling is on correctly and it rests in a place that's easy to get to. I'm right handed, so sling goes over my left shoulder, and the back hand cup rests just below my hip, so it's right there when I reach down
2. Obviously calibration is important. The Tabor calibration is very frustrating, but I got it working after a bit of trial and error
3. For quick transitions you don't ALWAYS have to use the stock. If I get surprised while looting or something, I still shoot freehand. Stock is used more for when I'm moving tactically

[royal wagon]

i have completed a minor pass at the gunstock calibration post

[rose otter]

I wonder, does the new calibration only work if you wipe your save file then?

Bc my buddy said he had a ton of issues with it too just now

[royal wagon]

i didnt see anything, but its possible the gunstock settings could have been malformed due to some of the bugs that were present previously

[pure crown]

Don’t bother

[royal wagon]

its probably a good idea to wipe and recreate, with the menu/interaction/etc bugs fixed its MUCH faster

[pure crown]

New update broke calibration

[royal wagon]

calibration still works fine

[pure crown]

Some people are unaffected. For me mine is broke

[royal wagon]

better than ever

[pure crown]

I have a buddy, we both have the same stock. I promise some people are fine others are not

[royal wagon]

delete your savegame file and try again

[pure crown]

What does that do?

Is it gonna reset my stuff?

[royal wagon]

its important to understand the function of the gunstock calibration system, and what you can achieve in software with the specific hardware you have

no, the savegame only contains your settings, all of your gear is stored on the servers

volume, height, screen settings, etc

[pure crown]

I have the Modus gunstock, so it’s highly custom. I’ll give deleting the save a shot. Thank you. However I do still believe this is a big for some people that needs to be addressed

Bug*

[royal wagon]

what problems are you having? can you be specific?

i deleted my savegame, booted up, and calibrated a gun with 3 adjustments in less than 2 minutes

[rose otter]

I'm gonna go try it now, I'll report back

[pure crown]

I posted it in the big chat, essentially certain guys will be straight in line while others will be crooked from left to right. So swapping between weapons is impossible. I only call it a big because it requires players to delete there save game to fix it

Seems a bit buggy lol

Bug*

[royal wagon]

the gunstock calibraiton does not change left to right orientation

[pure crown]

Exactly

Hey my guns when I spawned in did not want to line up at all

Regardless of restart

[royal wagon]

you'll want to adjust your mount points for your controllers to be further outside

[pure crown]

I’ll give that a shot and report back. Thank you

[royal wagon]

the way the guns mount to the hands is further towards the inside, so if the controllers are perfectly in line, your gun will point off to the side

[pure crown]

That makes sense, because in the previous patch a purposefully made them line up perfectly. This patch doesn’t seem to like that.

[royal wagon]

gun alignment has not changed from what ive seen

what headset do you have?

[desert moon]

would anyone recommend me a good gunstock for meta quest 2/3? ive been looking into getitng one

[royal wagon]

magtube

[royal wagon]

what headset do you have and what store did you buy from?

[pure crown]

I have the quest 3 playing with link cable on oculus

[royal wagon]

there have been some changes to Virtual Desktop that could be putting you into an unsupported runtime that will not work as desired

ok, that should be fine

[iron pike]

I haven’t played in a while due to gunstock calabration being garbage. how is it now I noticed in the updates they improved it. is it actually better now?

[royal wagon]

the gunstock calibration is less buggy than before, but still works the same way

[iron pike]

Is SKS usable

@royal wagon

[royal wagon]

you need a much more specific question than that

the SKS is usable, it was usable previously, but your particular headset and gunstock might not work super well with it

[iron pike]

So they basically did nothing to fix the calabration just made it easier 😢

[royal wagon]

read the pinned guide, it will tell you how to fix the calibration that you have

[iron pike]

I have used it

Still garbage compared to contractors or onward

It’s literally almost pointless

[royal wagon]

theres a difference between an opinion (ie: i dont like how the gunstock system works) and saying something is broken (ie: this feature doesnt do anything)

the system works, its an advanced feature that requires a bit of effort put into it

if you dont like how that works thats fine

[rose otter]

Sorry, but I have to disagree Rage. Calibration is all over the place for me. Previously I'd line up the ironsights, and then just adjust down to accomodate for the sight I knew I'd add to my gun.

Now no matter how much I adjust the calibration up or down, the gun is always in my face when I go to ADS

Wiped my save file before testing too

[royal wagon]

can you create a clip of this? your first comment goes against one of the first things in the guide

"id like up the ironsights, and then adjust down to accomodate"

[royal wagon]

do not use the gun in the calibration as a actual representation of what your gun will look like afterwards

the guns all have different geometries, that is not reflected in the gun you are given in the calibration system

the gun you are given in a fresh calibration should be seen as a "this is the stock offset that all guns in this class have"

[rose otter]

Yeah, I probably explained it poorly, one sec I'll try agan and clip

[royal wagon]

so if you put it in your gunstock and ADS with it, and find that its a lot lower than you would like, you would make an elevation adjustment in the calibration and then save it and check again

at no point in time would you say 'if i adjust the example gun to look down the ironsights when i ADS then it should work'

i'll work on making a video later tonight

[pure crown]

Thanks for all your effort to help all of us that have less than 1 brain cell to share between all of us

[rose otter]

It's only in SD as the upload finishes, but here's the clip of the issue @royal wagon https://youtu.be/UqAwDV0EkCc

[royal wagon]

more time will get put into the gunstock calibration system and it will get a lot better when that happens

there were a few baseline level bugs causing it to be overly frustrating before that i found workarounds for that i put in the guide

but the limitations of what the changes actually do are still present and need to be properly taken into account when making adjustments

[royal wagon]

checking

yeah

you arent using it right, you are looking at the model provided in calibration expecting the results to look like that

dont do that

the gun given to you in the gunstock calibration has different offsets than the one you are using, so you will not get a consistent experience

the gun you get in the gunstock calibration would be better represented as a big line, with no gun at all

then it would represent the offset adjustment you are making to the rear controller

you are just adjusting that offset to get the gun you want, which has its own shape and offset, to look like what you want

[tropic mulch]

I have found a lot better to keep physical stock and virtual stock dissabled and make the adjustments in you actual gun stock this has been working really well for me with the magtube

[rose otter]

So that part I get. But I guess what I'm saying is I'm trying to adjust it so the gun is lowerwhen I go to ADS. I was trying to ignore the gun and just use the "Move it down" functionality, but maybe it doesn't work like that either

Hmm OK, I think I see what you mean. So then I guess I'm not sure how to get the gun lower when I ADS lol

[royal wagon]

hmm

[tropic mulch]

I leve the front screw slightly lose so then i can adjust quickly for different guns on the go works like charm

[royal wagon]

first view it looked like you were tilting, but i see you are adjusting elevation

what headset do you have?

[rose otter]

Yeah the tilting is another issue tbh. Seems for some reason I always have to tilt the gun a bit to get a good view of the sight, but that I can get used to. Having to hold the stock halfway down my shoulder is more difficult though

I have a Quest Pro

[royal wagon]

are you using VD?

[rose otter]

OK so ignore everything I just said

[royal wagon]

lol

tilt is a different factor

[rose otter]

LOL I forgot that deleting my save file deletes ALL My settings. Which means I had "Enable Physical Gunstock" disabled 🤦‍♂️

[royal wagon]

the tilt adjustments only take effect until you grab with the front hand

yeah ive done that

'hrmm why isnt it changing anything'

[rose otter]

hahaha yeah, it's always something dumb like that. Literally turned it on and it was instantly perfect. Made the adjustments in one try. Derp

[native moss]

I have a spare PC carbine chassis lying around. I am going to attempt to make a gunstock from it this weekend. I'm not sure how yet, but if anyone has done something similar, I would love to see how they did it..

[high whale]

@native moss you could make that work without too much hassle as an under mount. do you have a 3d printer available to you? what controllers?

[native moss]

Sadly 3D printer is not in my budget at this time. (I just bought 17 acres of land, so I pretty broke right now). I am experienced modeler though (3DS Max, Lightwave, Blender), so f I got the data to someone, I could probably pay them to print it up. Having said that, I weld and I do epoxy floors, so I have all sorts of materials. I'm using a Quest 2 (until I get my 3 for Christmas). So I would like to be able to switch it over to the Quest 3 controllers.

[royal wagon]

Under mounts are not recommended for quests

Something that big would probably render them near unusable on a quest 3

[high whale]

yeah you'd probably want top mount. i tinkered around with undermount (self made sanlaki) and it had all kinds of tracking issues

[royal wagon]

I’ll be honest, while it sounds like a cool idea, the reality of it is that it would work very, very poorly

[native moss]

I'll likely mock it up cardboard first and see what I can think up.

[high whale]

I'd gladly print parts for you

[royal wagon]

Having a physical piece of gear that looks like a gun rifle is going to make it work very poorly towards the goals of a gunstock

[high whale]

this doesn't look pretty, but it works great

[native moss]

If I flip the chassis upside down, I might be able to make it work well. It's going to rai all weekend, So this will make a good project.

[royal wagon]

The gunstock needs to hold the controllers in an orientation that makes the gun in game orient properly

Plus you want a butt and cheek for 4 points of contact

So your optimal shape ends up being a Magtube

[high whale]

can print 2x of these, https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6284243. one i modified to fit to a 5/8" wooden rod

[royal wagon]

Especially when you play a game like tabor that has a very diverse set of gun shapes

[high whale]

i have a magtube that i'm using to compare against this with

and tbh both feel nearly identical, if you have the magtube fully extended

[royal wagon]

Non adjustable stocks are not recommended

You need to adjust angle of your controller, as well as height between controllers

[high whale]

you definitely don't need to. this simple thing works fine for every gun in the game

magtube is too much tbh

what i shared is essentially this, but with a stock thrown on the back: https://www.protubevr.com/en/vr-accessories/178-starter-short-gunstock.html

[native moss]

It might be easier to cut off the buttstock from the chassis and then mount to PVC, similar to what @high whale did.

[royal wagon]

This is wildly incorrect

[high whale]

all very lightweight since it is just wood. can easily hold the controller like a pistol in one hand

i mean,

i am literally doing it right now

[royal wagon]

There’s no such thing that lets you ADS with every gun in the game that cannot change shape

The guns are all shaped differently

[high whale]

heh, no you just lock the grip then attach to the mount the rest normalizes

[royal wagon]

Go from an ak alpha with grip, to an ak74u

To the JW shotgun

[high whale]

i paid nearly $200 for a magtube to tinker around with it, and am finding myself liking the dinky thing i made for $10 and some time with my printer more 🤷‍♂️

[royal wagon]

Which is fine and certainly your prerogative

But please perform the test I suggested

[high whale]

i have, the solution is to grip the gun first then lock the physical controller to the mount

[native moss]

This is all really good information. it's going to be a weekend of gunstock testing for me.

many ideas to play with

[high whale]

here's the magnets I used, and the models:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B085RD28JW?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:6284243
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4565145

[royal wagon]

That’s not how it works, which is why I’m asking you to perform this test

How the gun angle orients with one hand grabbed is different than the angle you need to hold it with the front hand

Grab them move only solves the first problem, not the second

[pure crown]

@royal wagon I did the wipe and it works better. However, have you noticed issues with guns like MP5 or the Mac10. Other guns line up with my shoulder but these guns in particular seem to line up with almost the left side of my face when I’m right handed.

[royal wagon]

I haven’t tried the mp5 in a very long time, was this before or after calibration?

I can test it

[pure crown]

After and before

[royal wagon]

Do you have a clip of what you are describing?

[pure crown]

I usually don’t use it but it’s the gun used in the calibration so I figured I’d try a real version

Give me a minute and I’ll get you a clip

I sent you the clip

I used the same mount on my right shoulder and same grip location. For the max 10 I tried two locations one closer and one farther

[royal wagon]

yeah, the mac 10 has a very different shape than the other guns

its a fraction of the size, this is to be expected, all guns do not have the same shape

[pure crown]

Right but my gun stock has a location that is meant for these grips. It has one in front and one in the middle. Even the mp5 had the same issue. In calibration it looked great. But once I grab a real one it would switch to the wrong side. I would show a clip but I sold them both right after I noticed the possible bug since I don’t use them

The grip location lined up with were it should grab

[royal wagon]

"in calibration it looked great" dont do this

the calibration is a reference for the offset changes you are making

step 1: not in calibration mode, grab your gun, put it in your stock and try to ads, dont see what you like? go to step 2
step 2: load calibration for gun class, adjust it slightly according to what you saw in step 1, save and close calibration
step 3: grab gun, dont see what you like? go back to step 2

the calibration gun is not a representation of what you will get at the end

its right up there at the top

at no point in time should you ADS with a gun in calibration and think that calibration gun is what its going to look like when you get out of calibration

thats not what you are doing in the calibration, which is why you only have one gun to represent an entire class

[ashen hull]

Quest 3??

[dusk mango]

Anyone know why hand pitch rotation is resetting every time I pick up a weapon?

[royal wagon]

is it a pistol or a 2 handed gun

[normal grove]

Is gunstock calibration update good? havent tried

[royal wagon]

yes

[dusk mango]

2 handed

[royal wagon]

did you run a gunstock calibration?

[dusk mango]

I tried with it on and with it off. Both ways, handpitch rotation resets

[royal wagon]

so, the hand pitch rotation setting in game affects pistols with one hand or two

and it can affect a 2 handed weapon with 1 hand attached

if you run a gunstock calibration and change the pitch, you will get that pitch when you hold it with 1 hand

if that is inconsistent, delete the savegame file and try again

[autumn gate]

Issue im facing with both gunstock and without(with gunstock is even worse) . After aiming for like 2 seconds for some reason it thinks the charachter is something existing, cause my aim goes everywhere except where i want it🤔 so for now im not using a gunstock but would love to, someone an idea?

[royal wagon]

got a clip?

its a lot easier to demonstrate and identify the problem with a recording

[autumn gate]

True that, lemme get it, gimme some time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPInRfSuKcw

i was keeping my aim steady, its part of a clip

didnt notice it was the wrong eye though lol

but the weapon moved back a bit and towards the right

[royal wagon]

ok, that looks like quest tracking

i assume you have a quest 2 or 3?

[autumn gate]

yep

but it seems to only be an issue in tabor

[royal wagon]

yeah, so, the problem is the shape of certain guns put your front controller in a quest tracking deadzone

understood, different games have different gun shapes

get an M4 and put a foregrip on it, you'll have a different gripping shape that will likely not cause problems

[autumn gate]

true. but in every game i use the same gunstock?

[royal wagon]

correct, but different guns in different games have different shapes

and the shape of some of the guns in tabor put them in a quest tracking deadzone

and yes i will repeat this again if necessary

[autumn gate]

Haha, gotcha, i just dont understand how only tabor is affected no matter how i calibrate em? Even if i calibrate it so i gotta hold my gunstock sideways its doing it?

[royal wagon]

because different guns have different shapes

and put your hands in different positions

even in this game, there are wildly different shapes between different guns

[autumn gate]

Ye i know, but without gunstock with a pistol/small smg i dont have that issue but with bigger weapons i do

[royal wagon]

right, because those guns have differenet shapes that have you putting your hands in different places that do not have problems

but if you have a gun that has a different shape and it has you put your hands in the tracking deadzone, you have a problem

when you hold a pistol are your hands in the same real world location as using a rifle?

[autumn gate]

But you should be able to fix that deadzone with calibration right? On a extreme example:

Needing to aim 90 degrees right to aim straight ingame?

[autumn gate]

Next to each other

[royal wagon]

right

[autumn gate]

Or behind or whatever haha

[royal wagon]

a calibration if used correctly could change the orientation

i think lowering the height would have the desired effect

[autumn gate]

Hmmm, could try that, cause i miss alot of shots this way haha

[royal wagon]

sadly this is what meta thinks is good enough tracking

[autumn gate]

Yeah slowly starting to lean to other headsets haha

Just wondering what would be better

[fringe moss]

Beyond whenever it comes out

At least imo

[royal wagon]

steamvr systems do have the best tracking

[autumn gate]

Could running the game in steamvr instead of oculus vr do something?🤔

[normal grove]

its a hardware issue

have your hands in a way where the cameras on your headset can see both controllers, or buy a quest pro controller

holy fuck, gunstocks are amazing now. (at least with the akm)
great work cws

[floral echo]

base(d) station tracking is truly based

i think that means good? idk. i have a variety of headsets and nothing beats laser tracking

[tired dew]

What did they change about calibration

[grizzled oriole]

Yeah I got a pcvr patch today that seems to have resolved my gun calibration issue

[tired dew]

I’m saying what did it change

[royal wagon]

the implementation got almost all of the bugs resolved

its still the same model we've been working with, just very easy to use now

the guide is still accurate but wont take much time to implement

[mint parrot]

Is the tomahawk stock worth it my brothers in Christ

[proper cipher]

you can kinda get around the tracking deadzone by not having your hands too close together or too close to your headset

you get some fuckery now and then but mostly all teh guns are fine

[signal carbon]

would it be worth getting adapters for my airsoft gear to use them instead of the software stuff?
just get the controllers onto the replica?

[royal wagon]

yeah, bring the gun closer to you in calibration so you dont need to pull your hands in so close

[royal wagon]

no, this would make for a pretty poor experience

[signal carbon]

opening boxes and stuff, yeah, i guess

[royal wagon]

imagine putting awkward extension handles on your airsoft gear and trying to play airsoft with it

instead of grabbing the pistol grip area of an airsoft rifle you are grabbing a rod that has buttons on it that extends up to your rifle

[signal carbon]

i dint think about the fact it would have to be the pistol grip.. yeah you are right, that wouldnt be great

[royal wagon]

you want a magtube

[native moss]

Simple solutions to tough problems?

[tired dew]

How’s this one

[normal grove]

Okay, after using the gunstock with an AKM in raid, I can say that the new update kinda broke AKMs

Basically, it now takes 1.5-2 seconds for your hand to get the "correct" grip on the AKM's foregrip. Almost unusable as if you grip too early, then your aim will be off

Guns with attachable grips seems unchanged

[royal wagon]

as pictured its a questionable design for the quest as you never want stuff in front of the tracking rings

and the rear hand angle does not look particularly natural

it looks pointed a bit up

its adjustable yes, but you have to consider what the changes might end up looking like when you account for their design decisions

maybe thats more forward than im imagining, i dont use the quest 2

[fringe moss]

Just comparing to the controllers those rods look kinda thin too in the picture so may not hold up well to force

Thin rods in 3d printed parts are good at causing flex cracks or even just bending over time

[hidden cloak]

Is a gunstock worth it?

[copper kiln]

100%, especially if you plan on sniping in Island

(Which if your good is SOOO worth it if you can suppress)

One thing I have never seen is a true sniper team

I’ve only seen loners so far

[copper kiln]

Sure until your tracking rings break!!

[sweet spoke]

Anyone here try the haptic gun stock?

[copper kiln]

I think you’d loose accuracy with that, but it would feel cool

[sweet spoke]

What happened to it

[mental niche]

Physical stock calibration is still broken unfortunately.

the first minute I clip my controllers into my sanlaki stock and adjust the gun, and show it's working well to snap my aim up.

The next minute I save the changes and try to aim with my ak74. It's aiming way down and all jacked up , same as before.

Edit: I realized I pressed the triggers when my forehand was not on the stock. But I've done this about 10 times now and it doesn't make any difference if my forehand is in the correct position or not when pressing the triggers, it acts jacked up like this either way. So I guess that kind of proves the physical stock calibration is not capturing the forehand position at all.

[fringe moss]

@fickle dawn there are new updated steps here

[fickle dawn]

ah THANK YOU. I didn't even realize this channel existed lol @fringe moss !

[fringe moss]

What stock you using?

[fickle dawn]

magtube

[fringe moss]

Nice, that one is the preferred around here. I’m using a Modus R

[fringe moss]

Calibration only saves your firing hand not your forehand

That is a known

You have to adjust your actual stock for foregrip

[fickle dawn]

thanks for this rage! I didn't realize this was how it actually worked.

[fringe moss]

Hence why straight tubes aren’t really recommended

[mental niche]

so it's pointless then? unless your forehand just happens to align with the way you end up calibrating it? There is no way for me to bring my forehand controller high enough to align with the front grip in game

[fringe moss]

Not with the stock you have correct

[mental niche]

plus then my trigger hand would be 4 inches lower than my forehand IRL

[fringe moss]

You adjust your trigger hand in game to align with your irl one

It won’t carry over to every gun either since not every gun has the same geometry

[mental niche]

but then I can't raise the gun high enough to get my headset to the sights, because the headset sticks out from my face a couple inches .

[fringe moss]

So if you are having one that is abnormal to the calibration try adjusting based off your guns offset

[fringe moss]

Can you turn your butt to angle into your cheek more or lower it?

[mental niche]

possibly but then the sights won't align with my eye horizontally

[left plover]

Is gunstock broken right now?

[fringe moss]

No but you might need to clear the calibration save data

[mental niche]

basically this should be a simple thing. You clip onto your physical stock, aim the stock to what feels right like a real rifle, then adjust the gun in game to match what you feel like it should be. But I honestly don't even know what the calibration is doing right now. You say it adjusts the rear hand only, but it's not a pistol, it's a rifle, and when I grab with my forehand its completely wrong. So I'm not understanding what this is supposed to do lol

[fringe moss]

New instructions on the pins

[left plover]

I did i get then good but then they don’t actually look good and now my gun is like aiming left and when i put both hands on stock i do like a whole 90 degree aim

[native moss]

I made some upgrades to it and have the stock chassis left over.

[fringe moss]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

If you search ragesac in:this channel he explains it far better than I ever hope to

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[left plover]

Yea just seen in pin thank you

[royal wagon]

Got a clip? Aiming side to side is not due to the calibration

It’s due to the physical placement of the controllers on your stock, they need to go out wider

Your controllers represent your hands, not your gun

If you physically held a gun and put your hands physically aligned, the gun would point towards your off hand

For the gun to stay straight, your hands need to be on the outside

[left plover]

Unfortunately i dont i read the pin and now my gun is decent

[royal wagon]

[mental niche]

Alright, so I read the pinned post and get it now. The calibration system is just not compatible with a sanlaki stock at this time because you can't do any adjustments to the foregrip hand. Hopefully the calibration system gets that added at some point, but for now I'll have to go back to missing most of my long range shots I guess lol

[royal wagon]

it depends, straight stocks are more difficult because of the one controller offset changes as you mentioned

you can raise or lower the stock, which has the effect of raising or lowering the front controller

however, thats the part you put against your face, so that can affect your ADS ability

[mental niche]

exactly, I can't physically raise my stock any higher, it contacts my headset and cheek. So if I use calibration to raise my trigger hand, it's good, but as soon as I attach my front hand in game, I'm aiming at the ground

the thing that gets me about this is the sanlaki is the closest looking thing to an actual rifle that I have seen, which I would think would make it work better for this game. But it seems like the ones that have no actual objects above your hands work better, because you can raise your hands much higher without hitting your face

[sweet spoke]

Hell yea man looks good I have one and is dead accurate love that thing great to shoot at the range

[native moss]

Nice... It's one of my faves

My truck gun

[mental niche]

anyway, enough out of me, I know the devs got their hands full with other priorities, but I'm looking forward to when this physical stock system is finished. It will completely change the game for me in such a good way.

[zenith field]

Is the magtube worth it

[royal wagon]

yes

[fickle dawn]

yeah definitely. I have it and it's great

but also, I'm still having trouble getting it to really work with tabor. I'm following the steps and its just so finnicky that im just gonna use vstock from now on. at least until there are more improvements

[royal wagon]

Be sure to check my videos on how to make it totally natural

[drowsy lodge]

Channel Locked

🔒 Hotfix in progress / expected downtime 1 hour

[novel trout]

what gunstock should i get as my first?

[royal wagon]

magtube

[novel trout]

thanks! love your streams btw. im always afraid to come across you in raid lol

[fringe nymph]

What settings do I put for my gunstock ?

[ivory goblet]

Duct tape and dowels

[fringe marsh]

the update broke all my calibration completely

I just logged into the update with my gunstock and it’s completely broken. It was working fairly well before but now it literally refuses to let me use my gunstock at this point

My bolt action rifle points 45 degrees to the right

[frigid tusk]

Hehey guys... can i use a gunstock for quest 2 also for quest 3? 🤔

[inland plover]

Yes

[frigid tusk]

Thx buddy^^

[hazy stirrup]

Anyone try out the Skolvr Tomahawk gunstock? My protube aint doin it for my quest 2. At least in tabor

[inland plover]

If you are like me, it doesn't matter what you do with your gunstock, make it feel good to you. This is two Hangers stuck together with tape and hot glue. The Stock and cups are cardboard. Just saying for me it gave me 60-70% stability/accuracy in Tabor!

[hazy stirrup]

Damn, that's kinda sick lmao. I try to adjust my tube to fit as many guns as possible, but i just have issues transitioning from rifle to pistol due to weird weight distribution. Idrk how i'd even make a stock to fix that issue, which is why i was interested in the tomahawk since it has that folding stock

Idk, maybe im trippin and i just need to fiddle with it more

[inland plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_HaTVXgz8o

[snow spruce]

https://www.amazon.com/Magni-Stock-Controller-Adapter-compatible-Oculus/dp/B0BLBTTGGH/ref=sr_1_5?crid=LWA7BG5SQYZZ&keywords=quest+2+gun+stock&qid=1701326694&sprefix=quest+2+gun+stock%2Caps%2C276&sr=8-5&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.18ed3cb5-28d5-4975-8bc7-93deae8f9840

Thoughts? Protube seems way over priced for me

[inland plover]

It is..

[calm vessel]

Yeah I got mine a couple of weeks ago and it’s banging, before I had a Kobra sidewinder which was also a great gunstock but they don’t do em for the quest 3 so I bought the tomahawk and I recommend getting one, I’ve gone through 6 gunstock’s and this one’s the “one” it’s great for calibrating in game. A lot of money but well worth it, it took roughly two weeks to receive but I’m in the UK.

[hazy stirrup]

Definitely considering getting it tbh, only issue is i live in the US and i believe skolvr is based in Europe

But i got a 10% coupon code so maybe customs fees wont be an issue

[pure crown]

Same here made from scrap pvc tube. I've now angled the stock up so it lines up abit better and more comfortable

[inland plover]

Yeah, PVC was my first, but I found out it will put a lot of stress on your right hand, i mean a lot. I made it Magnetic and it works better, but its still a very weighted down stock. Thats why I switched full time to the two hangers method up above, because of weight.

[swift wyvern]

good budget option for quest 3?

[obsidian owl]

Whats the best but cheapest non diy gunstock?

[inland plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_HaTVXgz8o

Oh non-diy

sorry

[pure crown]

How did you do th3 magnets?

I like mine and it performs well I just wanna 'upgrade' and have a look at magnets so I can use it without being permantly attached to the stock

[inland plover]

This is my process

Magnets in both stock and grip add-ons. They are cups for the controllers to slip in and out but are formed to the controller with tape. lol

[pure crown]

is the gun stock like messing up alot in game for alot of people or just me?

[inland plover]

nope

[sharp hornet]

My left hand get bugging out

[pure crown]

the front of my gun keeps aiming at the ground

[inland plover]

Its in game gunstock position that is messed up right now. The update made it off.

[inland plover]

I never use the settings for gunstock in game.

I only connect the real gunstock and use default settings in game. No Virtual or Real Gun stock setting is ON.. Do not turn on and it will work better. Just make sure your face is not to close to the stock itself in game.

[calm vessel]

Yeah like I said the cost’s are proper expensive but I can garantee it blows the the protube out of the water when I had mine I got sick of just the size and having to use a sling, that’s why I went with the Kobra vr sidewinder with all the attachments including the new ghosts of tabor front magnet connector made just for that game which was great, I went with Skol Tomahawk because kobra sidewinder no longer do one for the quest 3. I’m glad in a way because I haven’t had it that long and my kill count as increased no end. and you won’t regret it. convenient being able to go from a pistol to any gun on there I.e lmg, smg assault rifle to sniper rifle, some times when I have a look at what people are saying about not being able to calibrate their stocks well I haven’t had such trouble the only one that is some times a bit out is the sniper rifles but apart from that your laughing, and the guy at skol who I speak to tells me the dev’s are working on a new calibration fix that should drop anytime now. Yeah if you use that 10% coupon then that pays for your import tax there, the only down size is they ship it out standard so you will have to pay the courier once it’s in the US. I don’t get endorsed by them but I would get one knowing what I know or get a KOBRA VR GUNSTOCK THEY’VE GOT a whole series of different gunstocks have a look on eBay dude kobra vr. Good look mate 😃🤙

[royal wagon]

your rear hand is too high, if you have a fixed gunstock you need to lower the elevation

[open lodge]

Does anyone have any good and cheap gun stocks

[livid osprey]

can anyone advise how necessary the prostraps are for the magtube?

also how useful is the Bracket Gunstock part for use with the magtube?

[royal wagon]

Save the extra bracket for when you know you need it and why

[livid osprey]

i have active straps for my quest 3 controllers but i assume i cant use these with the magtube

[royal wagon]

Get the pro grips, they are probably better

[fringe moss]

Check the pins for the updated guide

[fringe moss]

Modus R is solid at $80-90, closest you will get to magtube under $100

[open lodge]

Ok

Thx

[open lodge]

Where can I get it

[fringe moss]

Etsy, if it is out of stock just check back daily

He restocks a couple times a week I have noticed

Front one has an auto returning spring too with adjustable tension so it can work for a pump

[open lodge]

Ahhh that’s why it has three ok

Thx

[stray ivy]

does it have a quick release?

[fringe moss]

Yes

[stray ivy]

ok

[fringe moss]

The handle cups just slot right in

[pure crown]

Has anyone bought the ghost of tabor gun stock?

[normal grove]

I have just gotten used to the 1.5-2second grip delay on guns with no foregrip attachments, (AKM, G3A3) but I hope it becomes instantaneous to grab in later patches.

[hazy stirrup]

looking at all these diy gunstocks makes me wanna just copy the skolvr stock. i just wish i had a 3d printer to make it easier smh

[visual sorrel]

You can adjust your grip thresholds in settings

[normal grove]

Not the issue. They made it so that naked foregrips have multiple grip points. It takes 1.5-2 seconds for your hand to "settle" before you can grab the naked foregrip of the gun. If you grab it too soon, the gun will be inaccurate.

[visual sorrel]

I don't have that issue

[normal grove]

on the akm or g3a3 or some other gun with no foregrip attachment slot?

[visual sorrel]

I use the akm on scav runs it's part of my rage kit

[normal grove]

Do you have gun calibration on?

[visual sorrel]

Yeah

[normal grove]

maybe I just need to physically adjust my hand so it's almost where it needs to be, so i don't have to wait for it to "settle"

Let me take a video

[visual sorrel]

Are your grip thresholds 0.5 and 0.5?

That's what I use and picking up my weapons or items is near instant

[royal wagon]

I don’t think the grip thresholds do anything anymore, that was part of the openXR controller implementation which went away a long time ago

[visual sorrel]

Hmm I can play with those settings and raise them later to see if it even matters

[royal wagon]

Gripping should be pretty instant, are you waiting for the physics to settle? You can use the gunstock calibration to change the angle so it’s resting place is closer to your hand

[visual sorrel]

I think he's trying a demonstration of his issue

[normal grove]

Alright so my setup is "physical gunstock: On" with the default calibration positions.

In the video, the first few grips I let my hand "rest" into the position where I need to grip and the PK06 red dot doesnt move.

If I grab it too early, you can see the pk06 aim to the right an the AKM becomes unaccurate. This happens when the grip is held too early. You can see the grip point starts at the top left and then settles in the bottom middle where aiming is accurate.

There doesnt seem to be any "memory" of where you last grip and when you let go. It makes you grip near the top of the gun which messes up your aim.

[normal grove]

I guess i would have to move my hand to the top left part of the grip so that I don't have to wait for my hand to "settle" in the correct gripping point of the gun.

[keen linden]

when are they fixing it its completely unplayable

wish they wouldve left it be

[royal wagon]

gunstock calibration: on and no calibration defined means nothing happens

[normal grove]

You can disable "Physical Gunstock: Off" and the multi grip points will be disabled

[fringe marsh]

That’s what happened with me

I genuinely cannot play with it now

[normal grove]

You can always use a gun with a grip tho because those only have one grip point always atm

[royal wagon]

this is the difference in your default controller horizontal angle and the the angle created when you have two hands on the gun, nothing gunstock software related, just your hardware

[normal grove]

So basically I just have to move the grip hand closer to that starting point and I won't have to wait?

[fringe marsh]

That severely limits the guns you can use. The Hunter 85 and SKS and several other guns are now physically unusable with my stock

[normal grove]

Yeah, my main jam is the AKM. It's really only a problem in situations where I'm picking up my gun and putting it down and shit

[royal wagon]

there has been no effective changes in the gunstock calibration process

[keen linden]

yeah all we need is a horizontal thing im aiming to my left to aim straight and it messes w immersion

[royal wagon]

the bug that was removed was an improper additional angle

[fringe marsh]

Then how is it worse 💀

[royal wagon]

that was causing issues creating gunstock calibration successfully

because you dont understand the nature of your problem

[normal grove]

The multiple grip points are defintely new, just need to understand how to optimize it

[keen linden]

you realize they said they changed it in the patch notes right?

[royal wagon]

and you realize i just told you what that means?

[keen linden]

no you didnt tho

[fringe marsh]

My problem is that the game worked fine and I could aim with the normal stuff and even some of the jankier stuff, but after the update it’s all broken

[keen linden]

this

[royal wagon]

the "improvement" to gunstock calibration was the removal of a bug that caused the initial angle when starting the calibration process each time

[fringe marsh]

So they absolutely tinkered with it

[keen linden]

exactly

[normal grove]

1st image is where it starts and if you grip, the gun will be inaccurate.
2nd image is where the aim will be perfect, but I have to wait some miliseconds before my grip "settles" into this point

[royal wagon]

correct, its always been like this

[fringe marsh]

But it’s much worse now

[keen linden]

sure buddy

[fringe marsh]

Like horrifically bad

[royal wagon]

games are always like this

[normal grove]

Maybe I had physical gunstock disabled before? How didn't I notice this

[fringe marsh]

No?

[royal wagon]

delete your savegame file

[royal wagon]

gunstock setting has nothing to do with this

[keen linden]

i dont think u know what you saying lmfao

[normal grove]

It does cause I can disable the multiple grip points on the AKM when I turn the physical gunstock option off

[fringe marsh]

I will try that, though I think you don’t understand what you’re saying

[royal wagon]

hm, multiple grip points might be a bug

[normal grove]

No, its a feature i believe

[royal wagon]

this did not used to be a thing

well, it did a long time ago, but they removed it

[fringe marsh]

But you just said they didn’t change anything

[royal wagon]

you could grip the barrel or the foregrip

[normal grove]

It's only on guns with no foregrip attachments/bare foregrips

[royal wagon]

changing grip points on the front of a rifle is not supposed to be related to gunstock calibration or settings

its just an enabling or disabling of an offset you can define

[fringe marsh]

But it is, and it’s completely broken my aim

[normal grove]

Yeah, with the new system, you grip wherever your foregrip hand is currently at. It doesn't move the gun anymore when you grip if you wait for your hand to "settle"

[fringe marsh]

My hunter 85 points a solid 45 degrees to the right, and in calibration it looks perfect

[keen linden]

idk i shouldnt be aiming at my wall to aim striaght in game they need a horizontal adjustment setting

[royal wagon]

i will reproduce this with some videos and raise the issue with the devs

[royal wagon]

you are not supposed to be using it like this, check the guide that is pinned in this channel, this is one of the things it says not to do

[fringe marsh]

I monkeyed with it using that guide

[normal grove]

IMO gunstock calibration is almost perfect with AKMs, just this little bug makes it so you have to wait to grip

[fringe marsh]

And it got worse every time, even when I did the exact instructions

[royal wagon]

i thought you said this bug only happened when you had gunstock setting off

[normal grove]

On, sorry

[royal wagon]

you arent using it right then

[fringe marsh]

All of my guns point either to the right, straight down, or straight up

[normal grove]

Physical gunstock enables the new system of multiple grip points

[keen linden]

we need individual gun calibrations not just an akm that is used we need it for each gun under each catagory of guns

[royal wagon]

gunstock setting on has not changed anything for me

[fringe marsh]

Correct

[royal wagon]

but i only use guns with a foregrip

[normal grove]

yea

[royal wagon]

i will test without a foregrip

[sour zephyr]

Gun stock with mosin🤣

[normal grove]

This change is only on guns with NO foregrip

It's very nice until you use it in raid in a close fight and you have to wait to grip to be accurate

[royal wagon]

can you take a vid of grabbing the foregrip of the AKM and showing the different grab points?

[keen linden]

i dont see how this isnt common sense each gun is different so in turn needs its own calibration

[royal wagon]

features take time

it will come eventually

[fringe marsh]

I wish it was a system similar to Onward’s, where the second grip doesn’t matter where the gun is pointing so grip doesn’t become an issue, and individual calibration makes the guns much easier to use

[normal grove]

video (during 5 to 6 seconds) you can see it have multiple grab points when ungripped

[keen linden]

facts

[royal wagon]

i dont want to see it from the perspective of looking down the gun, grab it from the side so we can see the differences in your hand

the only thing i see in the video you posted is the exact same thing ive always had

[normal grove]

yeah i see what you mean

[fringe marsh]

Zero Caliber managed to pull off the same thing and it also works wonderfully

[normal grove]

i would but am a little busy right now, but youll be able to see it when you test. Its very noticeable the multiple grip points

[royal wagon]

when this game has been out as long as onward or zero caliber i think we will see a similar system

[fringe marsh]

But why start with the glitchy one and have to rebuild from the ground up later?

[royal wagon]

time

[keen linden]

well hopefully they fix it soon and not a year from now bc its unplayable

[royal wagon]

believe me those calibration systems didnt start out perfect

[fringe marsh]

Yeah I agree

[fringe marsh]

Zero Cal’s kinda did lmao

Onward no

[keen linden]

i can get it close but need horizontal setting

[royal wagon]

calibration does not affect left/right orientation

you are using it wrong and ignoring the explicit instructions in the guide

[fringe marsh]

It’s only an issue with physical gunstock on and it gets worse the more I monkey with it

[royal wagon]

you are looking at the rifle in the calibration and thinking this is the end result, this is NOT the case

delete your savegame file and try again

the weapon you get in the calibration would be better represented by a single line showing the elevation/pitch/distance changes you are making to the offset

[fringe marsh]

No, that’s what I did, then moved to the guide

And it still did not work

[royal wagon]

did you delete your savegame file today

[keen linden]

they going to have to make a tiktok explaining

[fringe marsh]

I said I’ll do that later

[royal wagon]

when did you last delete your savegame file

[fringe marsh]

You shouldn’t have to

But not recently

[keen linden]

how you delete it and wouldnt that reset your bunker

[royal wagon]

no

[fringe marsh]

I think your actual progress is saved on servers, might be wrong though

[royal wagon]

everything is saved on the servers

[fringe marsh]

Otherwise people could pull a risk of rain 2 and monkey with their file

[keen linden]

ok how you do that

[royal wagon]

theres a pin in #❓・questions

[warm vapor]

Any known bugs with hand rotation? Seems if mine is 0 guns point up about 20 degrees. Setting it to -1 or +1 causes the gun to come back down to the level. Happens across scene changes. Only mentioning it here because it was screwing with my attempts to understand calibration.

[royal wagon]

delete your savegame folder

[fringe marsh]

Either way, in conclusion, gunstock calibration wasn’t perfect before, but this update broke many of the guns and is now unplayable for some people with gunstocks and is now unplayable for me

[warm vapor]

Done that 3 times over the last hour.

This is the setting outside calibration but on the same menu page.

[royal wagon]

#❓・questions message

[fringe marsh]

Nice tokenstamp PFP

[royal wagon]

the playersettings.sav is where hand pitch rotation and gunstock calibration are stored

a hand pitch rotation of 0 should have your hands pointing pretty straight

[fringe marsh]

Oh yeah, my hand rotation moves around CONSTANTLY

Hand rotation of 0 makes my controllers point at the ground

[royal wagon]

what headset do you use?

[fringe marsh]

I have to have them at 30 or else I can barely use my controllers

Airlinked Oculus Quest 2

[royal wagon]

you own the oculus copy of tabor?

[fringe marsh]

No, I use steam

[royal wagon]

are you running it in oculus mode or steam mode

[fringe marsh]

Steam mode makes it so you can’t open the game menu

So oculus mode

[royal wagon]

a fixable problem

the default bindings need to get updated

[fringe marsh]

I just need to rebind a key bind

[royal wagon]

do you have this same hand pitch rotation issue in steam mode?

[fringe marsh]

But I don’t see how that matters in the case of my hands constantly rotating

[fringe marsh]

Not sure, I’ll have to test it

[royal wagon]

the way you run the game can introduce other bugs

virtual desktop + oculus copy of tabor results in playing in openxr mode which is unsupported and hand offsets are specifically one of the issues

[keen linden]

did they add acount linking yet

[royal wagon]

no

[keen linden]

damn im trying to get onto steam

[fringe marsh]

I don’t use virtual desktop

I use Airlink

[royal wagon]

i didnt say you were

[fringe marsh]

Then I’ll try steamVR

And get back to you

[open lodge]

@fringe moss what does it mean by w/bipod

[warm vapor]

Starting a new 5E game this weekend. I think their code does a divide by zero or something when the pitch is set to 0. It doesn't matter if the physical gunstock setting is enabled or not.

[royal wagon]

what headset and which store did you buy the game on

[warm vapor]

I have both steam and meta. I only tested meta pcvr this morning. I'll check the other two later to see if it's config or code problem. I tested on Quest 3. I could also test on Quest 2 if it mattered.

[proper cipher]

you can set steamVR to be the default runtime even for oculus games in VD

[royal wagon]

thats not how this works

[proper cipher]

works for blade and sorcery, that runs through steamVR evne though i have it on oculus and run through VD

[royal wagon]

VD has two runtime modes, steamvr and the new VDXR

right, but there are a few VERY big distinctions on that

1: VD does not execute in oculus mode. only airlink/link does
2: many games ship with steamvr mode for oculus devices, but only from the steam store
3: games sold from the oculus store cannot be played in steamvr mode because the binaries have been removed, otherwise oculus prevents you from uploading the build, its always been this way. revive can sometimes fix this problem

ghost of tabor and VD have different behaviors depending on which store you bought the game from

since you cannot run the game in steamvr mode if you bought it from oculus, it executes in openxr mode if you launch it from VD, this is currently unsupported and has a few unique bugs

if you bought tabor from steam and launch it from VD, even though it has the same binary files, the way VD launches tabor it runs it in steamvr mode

[proper cipher]

ahh so it's specific to GoT that it can't run in steamVR mode if you bought it on oculus

[royal wagon]

no

[proper cipher]

and maybe some other games

[royal wagon]

see point #3

[proper cipher]

ok so why does it work for me with blade and sorcery?

[royal wagon]

openxr

[proper cipher]

bought on oculus store, run in VD, steamVR is what's running it

cause it goes through the big steamVR thing

[royal wagon]

it goes through openxr, which can be executed on the steamXR layer inside steamvr, the game is not running in steamvr mode

GOT used to be this way

however, you should be running openxr games through VD in VDXR mode

[proper cipher]

gonna have to swithc over next time i feel like stabbing things then see if tehre's any noticable difference

[royal wagon]

which does not require the running of steamvr

i havent played B&S in some time, so i dont know

i told ggodin how to set the launch options properly for tabor to launch in openxr mode if you bought on steam, though i suspect he will not change it because that mode is not supported by CWS

[keen linden]

i delted save and now stuck on load screen

[royal wagon]

did you delete the whole folder?

[keen linden]

yeah

[royal wagon]

%localappdata%\ghostsoftabor is empty?

[keen linden]

nvm had to retart like 3 times

[warm vapor]

I know I switched from smg to rifle in that video but it happens regardless of what weapons you use. I went from a working setup to not being able to grip my weapon just by changing rotation from -1 to 0.

[keen linden]

but yeah my gun still wacky have to aim at wall irl to aim straight in game

[royal wagon]

do you have a gunstock calibration configured or no?

[keen linden]

yeah if i dont its even worse

[royal wagon]

please note to whom the question was posed

[keen linden]

i just need a horizontal setting and then use the reply system so ik

[royal wagon]

i did

[keen linden]

it doesnt show it so must be discords fault its not shwoing who your replying to

any idea how to fix the horizontal issue at this time?

[royal wagon]

by changing your gunstock configuration

the calibration in game does not have any horizontal adjustments

[warm vapor]

Yes. I know that's not a controlled experiment but I was encountering it over and over. Maybe I'll do steam, meta, and quest later for a bug report but I don't have a lot of faith in those

[keen linden]

ok so when they adding it its a must