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[remote tiger]

For sure 🙂

[summer vector]

Im interested too

[remote tiger]

awesome ill send it over as well!

[icy cobalt]

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[fringe marsh]

Is the calibration still broken for anyone else?

[royal wagon]

its working the same as it has been since release, check the pin in this channel for a guide on how to use it

[pure crown]

So how does this work

[royal wagon]

you might want to narrow your question down

[iron pike]

Got the glistco Magnis stock. No regrets.

Especially where I got it for $50

[knotty igloo]

So almost every gunstock ever

[high stratus]

Anyone else have trouble with the sanlaki short tube stock sometimes blocking reloads on things like the hunting rifle? I had to set it wayyy high up to he abke to reload

[potent hound]

So what would be the best stock for quest pro controllers

I can find any source for them

[royal wagon]

magtube

[icy cobalt]

Bowk, magtube, and any of the major manufacturers will have one for you

[velvet shoal]

Thank you

[thin thistle]

https@//exact3d.co.uk. works with all guns 😉

[fierce kindle]

can some one dm me some good quite cheap gun stocks for quest 2

[remote tiger]

gotchu right here man i sell one for 34.96 that was designed to keep pirce in mind. dm incoming @fierce kindle

[reef lava]

When i played pavlov i literally found a stick outside that looked like a gunstock and taped my controllers on the stick. Worked pretty well and its basically free.

This is the ultimate budget option for a gunstock btw

or if you need one fast

[fierce kindle]

cool might give it a try

[reef lava]

Just make sure there isnt any bugs and that you dry it

[grave ginkgo]

Send me a link too, i wanna check it out

[remote tiger]

Gotchu homie @grave ginkgo

[inland plover]

My custom updated gunstock for my use, but still the best Gunstock for people on a very small budget..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_HaTVXgz8o

[oblique narwhal]

My stock came in and i fuck with its design only annoying part is how im gonna have to calibrate it with controllers that have stick drift

[icy cobalt]

Many points for cat

[exotic hound]

@small flicker Fish are poopy

[lethal sinew]

Did your Modus R come in? Maybe just run it in this sort of Config and don't use gunstock cal for now:

[coral oak]

Should I just print it out in like 5 parts

[royal charm]

diy asf (its sick as hell)

[reef lava]

We need more cat!

[bronze basin]

What's the benefits never had one

[coral oak]

Is there even a gunstock for 50buck-

[grave ginkgo]

i gotchu, watch dms

[coral oak]

Ap it

[strong lichen]

Hello Im building my own gunstock out of copper pipes and bolts and I was wondering if anyone owns the MagTube gunstock and could give me the measurement of the 3 pieces its made out of?

[remote tiger]

@coral oak I also sell one for 34.96 check dm

[coral oak]

Yipe

[remote tiger]

@grave ginkgo prec it

@strong lichen copper isn’t cheap. I would possibly look into different metals for a more cost effective option! Def still could be done

[grave ginkgo]

You'd do better with smth like aluminum, light and cheaper than copper to my knowledge

[remote tiger]

Yea I have to agree^

[oblique narwhal]

Yeah thats what im doing now

Loving it rn its pretty good to use and it isnt heavy, helped me get better w long range lol, just gotta get use to it

[old crown]

Just wanted to mention I ordered a stock from @remote tiger, and I'll keep everyone posted if it is of high quality :)

[strong lichen]

Where yall geting the Modus R from isnt it sold out ?

[strong lichen]

Its almost fully build already realized I should of goten aluminum after I purchased everything

Its costed me like 37 euro for everything , I got like a 1 m copper rod

I found the measurements on a assembly doc of the Guntube so I just cut it down to a similar size

[lethal sinew]

https://www.etsy.com/shop/3Daptive? He's taking a break till Sept. 30th. It'll be back in stock after i'm sure. Just get notifications via email.

[clear lily]

Is there a gunstock with is around 50$

I kinda want one but now like a budget toilet paper roll gunstock

And not a 120$ with 42 different customisable things

[remote tiger]

@clear lily I sell one for 34.96 really straightforward like you mentioned. Check your message requests I sent you a dm

[languid sierra]

w cat

send more cat pics

please

[inland plover]

@royal charm@reef lava@languid sierra
Thank you all.. My cat is also 15 years old right now. My PFP picture is of him at 6 weeks old in a mail box.

[pulsar mason]

Precious

[idle blade]

just finished printin bois

[inland plover]

I heard that over the top has issues with tracking, so let us all know! Thank you!

[remote tiger]

it depends on the stock but overall over the top is way more common for tracking isues

[inland plover]

You did see mine just up above! lol Two hangers!. So beastly.. hehehe..

[remote tiger]

love it lol

[inland plover]

I cant believe I didnt start playing any FPS game without a Gunstock. It gave me about 60% more stability and accuracy after I started using it.

[remote tiger]

oh ik. it doesent even have to be a good one. a stock in general is just so good for vr shooters @inland plover

[open bramble]

Ive been trying to setup and use my spine gunstock from olen. I have not beable to get it to work and am stuggling to use it

[spare lagoon]

doing the same but with aluminium rods and designing/printing out joints. they have their rod length(s) on their website

[idle blade]

Cool

[proper shadow]

guys look on media i hit a sick clip

@misty nimbus

[grave plover]

i use a old cruch as a stock

i cut it and attached it to a controller handle thingy

like one of thease

[inland plover]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_HaTVXgz8o

Im selling the sheeeet out of this gunstock FOR FREE!@

These guys are on a budget

[pure crown]

is printing out a gunstock worth it

[long kite]

Sounds like everyone is having the same problem with the spine.

[silk fulcrum]

I made a gunstock

It may not work but I put my blood sweat and tears into that

[knotty igloo]

We’re matching

I have the same design but image won’t load

[royal charm]

15 years is crazy <3 he jus so silly and eepy in da mail box i might cry

[royal charm]

bro really said DIY

[thick hatch]

I have been reworking a few of my gunstock designs into a cleaner single option and variations.

I am working on a version that doesn't use any mags... only metal would be a few hurricane bolts.. essentially locking the main hand and having a QuickAim Bar or Rest (see pictures) for the off hand... versus dual mag.

I will have adapter options/compatibility for Quest 1, 2, Pro, 3... Index... and PSVR2

[eternal fog]

im finna use my cat as a stock

[pure crown]

Put them dogs away 😭

[thick hatch]

I make Multiple options... depends on what you are looking for in features.

[pure crown]

Did they fix stock calibration yet

[thick hatch]

Wrong channel... you would post this in #1060677533399535666

I see you posted in both... so unnecessary in this one

[supple sluice]

If anyone is interested I'm selling my Sanlaki standard stock and my Pro tube "Magtube". Both have been barely used, so they are in great shape, and I'll give you a great deal.

[dire wing]

Price?

[grim stag]

How much

[tardy chasm]

Selling a pile of fat shit, dm for offer

[languid sierra]

OHNMY GOD HES SO CUTE

[rose coral]

Anyone got suggestions for a gunstock under 50-60 dollars?

[remote tiger]

@rose coral i sell a gunstock for quest 2 for 34.96 ill send you some info to your dm

[rose coral]

Ok sounds good

[supple sluice]

How about $50 for the Sanlaki and $75 for the pro tube... I'll consider offers

[pure crown]

Is stock calibration fixed?

[oblique narwhal]

No but i use no calibration and it works fine

[icy cobalt]

We really are not fans of the spine here.

[soft nexus]

ive had the magtube for a while and ive noticed everytime i grab a gun like an ar or sniper its always different from where i calibrated it and im so confused is this just a bug or is it my side

[remote tiger]

i think that is a software issue game wise. does it do this in other games

[soft nexus]

i havent tested it in other games yet

[remote tiger]

i would try that

[soft nexus]

alright thanks

[remote tiger]

np

[silk fulcrum]

Update: it didn't break into 78 pieces when I used it

[zealous berry]

@limber bolt

[icy cobalt]

Every gun has different geometries, and anything that can mount a foregrip has a different geometry after you attach it. You don't calibrate so one setup is perfect. That's part of why a quick and easy adjustment system is important.

My calibration works so it's a vertical slide of the comb for any AR.

[soft nexus]

ohh alr

[hardy rock]

What would a good vr stock that fit those descriptions be? Im planning on buying one specifically for Tabor but I don’t know which one

[vapid solar]

does anyone have experience with the kobra wolverine gunstock ? and if so how does it behave with pistols ?

[vestal oyster]

what gun stock should i get for my first

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[vestal oyster]

this is the gun stock chat

[icy cobalt]

most of us don't think they're really great. But your mileage may vary, look at the pasta already posted

[icy cobalt]

If you click on that link, that will take you to a message

[vapid solar]

thanks alot but i am debatin if i will get one or wait because i am thinking of an upgrade towards the quest 3

[vestal oyster]

thank you

[royal wagon]

a good gunstock like a magtube will allow you to easily swap your cups for the new model, also, if you plan on getting a q3 plan on getting the pro controllers or you are going to hate the quest 3

[vapid solar]

tbh i am not sure i will wait for some reviews of the new controllers and see how much better the pro controllers would be

[royal wagon]

the q3 controllers will be a huge downgrade for FPS games than the q2

the deadzones will be much larger than the q2 deadzones and the accuracy is going to be significantly worse

oculus is cheaping out on the q3 controllers big time, they want you to buy the pro controllers

[vapid solar]

that is very good to know thank you 😄

but they are 350 euro and you cant just hotswap the batteries which sucks imo so i will have a look how well the tracking actually is and debate on my feeling than

[royal wagon]

the q3 controllers will be some of the worst controllers yet in VR for FPS games

[vapid solar]

well for the combined price i can almost get the quest pro xD

[royal wagon]

if you want, i dont touch quest stuff

[vapid solar]

tbh its the best for standalone and i am not staying at a single place atm since i am moving quite often and cant take my pc with me

[royal wagon]

makes sense, but theres no good standalone content so thats a meaningless metric for me

[vapid solar]

i am playing breachers, tabor pavlov and beatsaber works all fine so i cant complain 😄

may i ask which headset you use ?

[royal wagon]

index right now, bigscreen beyond should be arriving this week

[vapid solar]

damn nice

[wild ruin]

Don't dump on the Quest 3 controllers that hard. They'll likely be better than Reverb G2 controllers, and will be better than the Vive Cosmos controllers 💀 They aren't even out yet, and even if you've talked to someone who has used them (meaning they broke NDA) don't forget most headsets have regular firmware/software updates that improve things like tracking.

Pico Neo 4 is a great example of this. At launch controller tracking especially for gunstocks wasn't that hot. But sometime in January 2023 or February 2023 they rolled out some updates that drastically improved it making them viable.

In conclusion, don't write the Quest 3 controllers off before they're even in consumer hands just because of what patents and leaks indicate they use for tracking 🤷

[inland plover]

He has a Paw Print spot (3 black circles that look like a foot) on his head! If you look at his black ears, he has the same spot on the back of his head and when looking down on him, it looks like a paw print!

[proper cipher]

i'll stick with my pipestock lol

[distant cipher]

I have a mamut vr for valve index that I am selling if anyone wants. To return it my shipping label is 60$ so would rather mail it to someone here

[remote tiger]

@vestal oyster hey man I sell one for 34.96 for the quest 2. I’ll send some info to ur dm:)

[vestal oyster]

ok thank you

[royal wagon]

I’m writing the q3 controllers off because of the removal of most of the tracking LEDs making the overall tracking surface a fraction of what it used to be, so dead zones will be twice as large if not more, and they will do some estimation bullshit that will make precision activities worse than what we already have

The rings are being eliminated for cost reasons, and to drive you to pro controllers

They might do better with precision than I anticipate, but they can’t fix the fact that they doubled or tripled the size of the deadzones

[hardy rock]

We aint gonna talk about that cool ass gun and knife wall you got there?

[icy cobalt]

Heh. I'm sorry mate. The mamut is most of why I haunt here. Damn money sink with good PR

[mortal parcel]

What’s the best headset for emersion I use quest 2 rn should I get and index? I want fov and quality

[royal wagon]

yep, index wins on both of those fronts

but if you can sacrifice a little bit of fov for higher res, the beyond is the winner

i hope mine arrives this week

[calm vessel]

Send me details buddy, i.e name and some statistics or even better have you got a link for it on YouTube? 😃🤙

[shy notch]

Not too long and the first prototype is finished

[formal nimbus]

I bought it im using it on pavlov shacky and i got better accruacy and actually is quite simple to assemble all together u can literally use a plier and a knife

[remote tiger]

I got some details coming your way 🙂

[calm vessel]

It’s Okay, just curious, buddy, if it does what you need it to do then that’s fine, have you tried it in GOT yet? 😃

[remote tiger]

Yep I have tried in GOT

[turbid acorn]

Gonna have a possible valve index gun stock for sale so hmu 💀

I won the give away for the wrong gun stock

[calm vessel]

Any problem palm magging, adjusting grip for assault rifles to smg ‘s, it’s a bit messy having to have it hanging on a harnesses to be able to use a pistol. Like I said what ever floats your boat buddy. in a bit 😃

[pure crown]

do u remember me

[remote tiger]

I do!

[remote tiger]

We’re u talkin to me in this message?

If so check ur dm and we can talk there

[rotund comet]

Bros still stealing my pics 💀 crazy

[icy cobalt]

Looking good! May I suggest linking the shoulder and cheek pieces?

[shy notch]

You can link them of you wish

[icy cobalt]

Just a pain point I noticed in my old stocks. Looking great so far!

[shy notch]

But usually they are one piece no? Haven't seen many with separated pieces

[icy cobalt]

They used to be more common. If you want to see a leftover of it you can look at the mamot. But snags on everything, and rotates when you don't want them to. Whereas a single piece is easier to make quick adjustable and include anti rotation features in the joing from the main leg to the cheek

[shy notch]

Ah I see, yeah I tried to make it as simple but as adjustable as possible

[cerulean jacinth]

Best gun stock for quest 1???????

[sullen lodge]

Resin?

[shy notch]

No, Petg @sullen lodge

[calm vessel]

Have a look at KOBRA VR STUFF ON YOUTUBE, next level stuff compared to a lot of the generic gunstock’s 😃

[dry creek]

Pretty good shots if I do say so myself

[icy cobalt]

So I don't think Simma's pick even makes CV1 stocks.

[icy cobalt]

he's the worst kind of fanboy. Read through this pasta, the first two on the list make CV1 stocks, then look at the reviews thread.
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[languid sierra]

anyone know if the Olen quest 2 ghost gunstock is good? looks rlly good but 50$ shipping 😭

[remote tiger]

50 IN SHIPPING??>???

[lethal sinew]

[faint wigeon]

Please tell me thats international shipping? In which case, yeah, international shipping freakin sucks and is impossible for small businesses to get around unfortunately.

[remote tiger]

but even with int shipping to most places is only like 30 40 max thati have seen

to cuba is different

[faint wigeon]

The Olen looks like its got some weight to it, also the larger box required to ship it, that box combined with the weight will definitely increase the shipping cost.

Also if theres any behind the scenes "handling fees" added by the shop to increase profit, that will increase the cost as well (no idea if thats the case, but may help explain the price alittle more).

[proper cipher]

build one for a tenner, they work great and easy to make

[icy cobalt]

When you say that, is that the spine?

We really don't like the spine

[hidden island]

Are there any recommendations for people new to gunstocks

[remote tiger]

@hidden island what is ur budget and what system do you use

[hidden island]

I use quest and my budget is $30

Or $50

[remote tiger]

hmmm well i do sell one for 34.96. thats preaty much the cheapest one you will find anywhere on the market. other than that you can look into DIY

okay 50 is a little more manageable

ill send a dm to you with some info take a look @hidden island

[calm vessel]

At least I know my ass from my elbow, how many profiles do you have on here anyway? (Rhetorical) something very ginger beer going on with your propaganda/ agenda, Also Mr lightpuff you share the same IP address as Cheesy boy so your definitely in bed with him more ways than 3, unless I address you in future then don’t have a pop, as I said Ginger beer 🐑 🤔

[remote tiger]

LOLLLLLLL WTF

[royal wagon]

wtf, the crack pipe is strong

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-i-cant-bald-headed-stand-up-its-too-much-gif-17025786

[proper cipher]

build your own, it's super easy

just need some pvc pipe and a few 3-way junctions and you get something nice

[hidden island]

Ok

[lethal sinew]

Also try this to get started... it's a good way to see if it's even something you wanna do: https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[languid sierra]

yeah it is, contacted their management as there was free shipping for orders over 50$ but its only in america, the guy I was talking to said I seemed rlly interested tho so he offered me 50% off shipping :)

[languid sierra]

oh rlly? how come

this one

[faint wigeon]

Wow, thats honestly a bit sus, 50% is quite a beefy discount, this tells me that they are likely padding their international shipping cost by quite a bit. Otherwise taking 50% off the shipping would be eating directly into their profits for that order. Which doesn't make sense from a business perspective.

That said, the regulars in this server do recommend being cautious of the Spine gunstock, there have been many Quest 2 users on this server that report frequent tracking issues, as well as issue with setting up the stock in Tabor (since there are no angle adjustments for the controllers).

[remote tiger]

yea from just a sellers pov if you offering that big of a discount you gotta realize how much of an upcharge they really are doing in the first place

[languid sierra]

oh damn, you got any good suggestions that won’t bankrupt me?

[faint wigeon]

Lol, great question. I think the first thing we need to extablish is, where are you located?

Also, do you happen to have access to a 3D printer by chance (if so, then you also have a few affordable options there as well).

[languid sierra]

I’m in scotland, and the school I go to has a 3d printer but I’m not sure how good it is, I think its pretty good

[icy cobalt]

It's heavy, has limited adjustability (the only length adjust is a hacksaw, practically no vertical adjustment), the style has big tracking problems for the quest, and the attachment is mediocre.
Most folks come back saying they can't even use it for GoT.

It's also extremely expensive for what it is.

[icy cobalt]

If you really want the spine style, go to thingverse and look at the sanlaki STL files.
Otherwise, bowk has STL files available, and take a look at the reviews thread.

[languid sierra]

honestly not sure what I want, need something that gives me better long range aim, is comfortable, and can take controllers in and out easy enough so I can use a pistol or sm yknow

or reload

be good if its got a strap too

[fringe tendon]

I just got this one any suggestions on where I can get a better strap?

[fringe tendon]

Lmao I just got the one your looking at it wasn't 50 dollar shipping for me, they are however moving factorys atm so that could be a contributing factor, it provides good stability but the strap is ass and there are sharp edges that might need sanding down.

[icy cobalt]

Did someone pay you to try and ruin kobra's reputation?
And I'll bite, what is my and cheesy's IP?

You can see by folk's reaction we all think you crazy

[last birch]

you can get one at protube for 8$

[fringe tendon]

❤️

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/that-guy-guy-that-guy-is-nuts-squirrel-squirrel-turd-gif-17730346111372501300

[plush mesa]

ain’t no way y’all talkin ips and shit over a vr game in there discord over gun stocks. go get jobs you guys are pathetic…

[icy cobalt]

Depends on how good you want it

[fringe tendon]

I looking for a medium priced sling

Im*

[icy cobalt]

Blue force gear and Viking tactical for high end.
Magpul for the mid end

[fringe tendon]

Thank you very much

[icy cobalt]

Hey man, you coming at me because some crazy guy thinks my IP is the same as someone else's?

[remote tiger]

@plush mesa you havent been here the past like 3 weeks and seen some of the stupid shit people been sayin. other companies will send in fake accounts and absolutely shit on other companies for no reason and then just to plug their own product. that is only the tip of the iceberg

[slender lava]

is anyone else having an issue with grabbing anything after using the physical gunstock calibrator?

[remote tiger]

Yes I have this issue

Check the pins for. A step by step way to try to fix

[plush mesa]

all this over vr stocks?? 😭😭

[plush mesa]

just ignore em man

[icy cobalt]

Dude I'm here to try and save people cash and direct them to a decent stock.
This kid's come in a half dozen times now and tried to get people to shell out ~150 for a stock, flame all the people in here, and act the fool.

If the kid wants to try and say I'm someone I'm not, then I think I'm right asking him to put his money where his mouth is.

To be clear I'm not directing to one stock either. The pasta has 4 listed and links to all the ones in the reviews thread.

[plush mesa]

i see, sounds like he’s a douche.

[plush mesa]

which would u recommend, i had a full stock and it was kinda bad with the magnets

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message
What I recommend depends allot on what you want from the stock. Read the linked pasta, and tell me about what you want from your stock.

[pure crown]

I got a 3d printer but no gun stock what do?

[thin thistle]

HEre is a video of the VR-HS Gunstock in action https://youtu.be/1MzvDMV0LOM

[pure crown]

nice

bro is gonna play escape from tarkov

in real life

[plush mesa]

looking for something like the i stock tbh

any other or recommendations

[icy cobalt]

Wha about the istock is appealing to you?

[untold raft]

Have you seen the Sanlaki Elite Pullstock? https://sanlaki.shop/collections/all/products/sanlaki-pullstock

There is also a short comparison review compared to the istock
https://youtu.be/jRwoJLWK6kU?si=OrdhYshAlvQU5aAo

[oblique narwhal]

Is the cup design gripping instead of using magnets and cups?

[thin thistle]

No its Magnets for the rear and cup for the front. Much easier to just grab the front than look for magnets.

[oblique narwhal]

Ahhh noicee

[thin thistle]

When I say cup for the front its a grove that the controller slips in to then gripped with your hand

[oblique narwhal]

Yeah MODUSVR has something similiar to that but its all slip design

[iron pike]

There is a calibrator?

[icy cobalt]

Hey skub, look through the reviews channel and figure out what priorities you want from your stock design and come in back. There's so many designs out there

[restive pelican]

How does a gunstock work when you have to loot and grab mags from your bag?

I’m working on deciding a gunstock to get to help me with my horrible aim

[royal wagon]

trivial, you just drop the stock and do your looting then snap back on

i use a magtube, its pretty fast and effortless

[icy cobalt]

In two methods. Some stocks ala freedom stock or most kobra models are permanently attached to one or both controllers, but de-link or otherwise get out the way while you're working with your hands.
Look for the freedomstock to get a feel for that.

With most stocks, you disconnect your controllers and let the stock hang on a 1, 2, or 3 point sling.

[zealous totem]

Hey does anyone know where to get a good physical oculus gun stock that can connect to pro controllers

[icy cobalt]

Any of the major manufacturers (ie Bowk, protube) cover that.
Tell us what you want to prioritize in your stock

[zealous totem]

Well two things. 1. I want to be able to use this kinda freely so that like I can put my gun away while still using the stock. 2. I just kinda want something that I can like detach from so I can not be stuck clinging on to it

[zealous totem]

I think these are the only things

[icy cobalt]

I'm a little confused, you want to be able to put the gun away while still using the stock?
Could you expand on that?

[zealous totem]

Sorry I’m not good at explaining. Basically what I’m saying is that if I were to put my gun away like in my holster I want to still be able to use my controller freely like grabbing items or putting stuff in my backpack freely without having to take the gun stock off. So I kinda just want to be able to leave it on the whole raid

[icy cobalt]

So you want to be able to always have it on and function freehand, but also one you can detach easily?

[zealous totem]

Yea basically

I saw that pro controller stock up there and thought it was cool

Up in chat

[zealous totem]

That one in chat up above looks kinda neat

[icy cobalt]

I've been here too long. Too many have gone by. Could you link it?

Those two things if I'm following correctly, are directly competing design priorities. If you have a stock you can loot with while still having it attached, it'll be generally be really unstable if you want to be able to quickly take it off all together.

To the best of my knowledge, only one stock fits both those priorities in the pro controllers.

Hold on while I find a link

[zealous totem]

This is the one that I saw. What do you think about this?

[zealous totem]

Cause this one kinda fits what I said I think

[icy cobalt]

That's a half stock. Generally not a fan. Now I am biased towards accuracy. But the folks who've come back with the istock (competing product) have been largely disappointed. Either you tie your hands together and have the feeling of playing handcuffed, or you don't get much of an accuracy gain as compared to just putting the controller to your jaw.

[icy cobalt]

https://www.etsy.com/shop/VirtualArmory
Here we are. Parts to play with

[zealous totem]

Ok I see. Well what stock would you say would be good for ghost of tabor?

Any stock

[icy cobalt]

Well, take a look at the one I just linked. Having anything to brace your lead hand is important.

Past that, rank these priorities and I'll spit out a couple of the more traditional designs.

Versatility
accuracy
speed (of getting it off/on)
price

[untold raft]

This is the latest version of the Sanlaki Elite Pullstock. It now includes a part to anchor your reload hand to. It's a WIP but comes as standard on all future orders.

[plush mesa]

irdk, prob how it has a hand that is free to be moved around without having a magnet or anytbing

[icy cobalt]

See above about my comments regarding half stocks as a whole. Otherwise, there's two above that I would say are supperior to the istock if that's the style you want. The istock as a whole is radically overpriced, fragile, overly short, and we've had allot of people saying that they either felt handcuffed or didn't get a major advantage from it.
If you want a magnet-less full stock, look at a bowk marksman. You can be incredibly quick with one.

[plush mesa]

so ur countrolers hust slide out??

[young flare]

Yo can I get a tutorial?

[knotty igloo]

It’s sone where here let me try to fibe it for you later

[zealous totem]

accuracy

speed

versatality

price

[open bramble]

Is there a way to make the spine work better on got? It always is off no matter how much I tune the gunstock calibration and loses tracking. I have it where it’s just the metal beam

[royal wagon]

kind of a design flaw

[icy cobalt]

Yeah. Bowk's thing is he's his team's utility monster. Grenade back to stock time is what he does. Check out the bowk marksman

[icy cobalt]

We really don't recommend the spine for a reason

[icy cobalt]

Check out the bowk and the magtube for that list

[proper cipher]

which is the stock that comes apart in the middle?

[icy cobalt]

Freedomstock

[proper cipher]

ahh cool, been meaning to take more of a look at that one to see if it might be good

[proper cipher]

only thing i don't like is the magnetic lock in the middle, i'd prefer a less twistable one

cool design though, looks like it'd be great to have the quick switcharounds

[icy cobalt]

I think you're overestimating your ability to meet the end of two nesting sticks while blind. Big part of cheesy's design is ease of use

[proper cipher]

well i have no issue meeting controller with hole atm to slot into my diy stock, and you'd be amazed at how much you gain with a very subtle flare on the end of a tube that's meant to have things slot into it

[summer horizon]

Am i bad for not having something “expensive” cuz i have a 3d printed one handed stock

Works very nicely tbh

[proper cipher]

i built one from plumbing pipe that i bought for less than £15

[summer horizon]

I had a friend on onward that did that i tried it didnt work to well

[proper cipher]

i like mine, i just need to find a way to make the controller sockets tighter

but the plastic won't soften up under heat so i'm gonna have to find another way

[summer horizon]

Angle grinder and some redneck engeneering

[proper cipher]

i prefer good old fashioned british ingenuity 😛

[summer horizon]

If it works it works

Cutos to u tho

[proper cipher]

i got a hacksaw and a drill as far as tools go though, so i'm pretty limited lol

it's enough to work on plastic tubing though

[summer horizon]

Add some cloth with a screw just barely on the edge

[proper cipher]

i'm super tempted to build a version of the freedomstock though, i like the idea of having the thing just attached to my hands for ultimate versatility

sadly i can't just buy one since they don't ship over here

[summer horizon]

Ngl idk what the freedom stock is and sad to hear that

[proper cipher]

https://youtu.be/FVdrkvJrJwo

check it out, it's a pretty sick design

[summer horizon]

It look pretty sick

Mine kinda looks like it gimme a sec ill try and find it

[proper cipher]

mine looks like an obese protube lmao

[summer horizon]

That it

[proper cipher]

ahh you got an istock

i don't like the half-stocks, may as well just cheek the controller

[summer horizon]

Cheeking the controller screws up the tracking

But this is what i want REALLY badly

Sexy

[proper cipher]

my homemade one looks like that but fat, cause i built it with 40mm pipe

[summer horizon]

150$ tho so like 156£

[summer horizon]

Noice

[proper cipher]

closer to £120

[summer horizon]

What?

[proper cipher]

£121.57 to be exact, my guess was close

pounds are worth more than dollars lol

[summer horizon]

Ohh yea inflation i thought it was the other way around

[proper cipher]

not really anything to do with inflation, gbp is just a stronger currency than usd, always has been

current exchange rate is pretty shit really, when i went to america i literally doubled my money lmao

took a little over a grand, only cost me 500 lol

[summer horizon]

I was gonna ask wha gbs means but then my braincells ( the 3 i have ) worked and it means Great Britain pound but thats crazy doubled money

Infinite money glitch

[proper cipher]

it felt like it, cause when you're buying shit over there the numbers are about the same as they are here

like a 75p chocolate bar here was pretty much 75c there

£5 pack of smokes was $5

[summer horizon]

Gas 2,000,000$ 2,000,000£

Frfr

[proper cipher]

nah it was cheap as fuck back then

[summer horizon]

Wym back then 1920s

[proper cipher]

nah like 15 years ago

[summer horizon]

Like 2013? Ish im too tired to do math rn

[proper cipher]

nah like 2008 or something

[summer horizon]

Nah

[summer horizon]

Yea 2013 was 10 yrs ago

Im dumb as hell

[proper cipher]

yeah it was around that kind of time, cause i went to see bb king in atlanta and it was one of his last shows before he died

[summer horizon]

O

Ngl i had to google who bb king was looks like he made som good music tho

[proper cipher]

dude was a legend

[summer horizon]

Like micheal jacksom?

Jackson*

[proper cipher]

personally i'd say better

[summer horizon]

O

[proper cipher]

definitely not as well known, but more influential overall

[summer horizon]

Oh thats prolly y i had to google

[proper cipher]

yeah not as many people are into blues as are into pop

but the blues players influenced a lot of what became pop

[summer horizon]

Makes sense

Q tho

[proper cipher]

?

[summer horizon]

U play on quest?

[proper cipher]

quest and pcvr

[summer horizon]

Yea

Oculus

Or pcvr

[proper cipher]

both

[summer horizon]

Rlly

[proper cipher]

if my pc is busy rendering or something i'll use quest standalone, if it's not i'll go pc

[summer horizon]

So u mainly play pc?

[proper cipher]

atm i'm mainly on standalone, but that's mostly cause i'm working on some stuff and don't wanna close down then reopen all my programs lol

[summer horizon]

I may have a pc but im still a newbie so can u dumb it down the atm part

[proper cipher]

atm = at the moment lol

[summer horizon]

O

😂

U wanna see my pc?

[proper cipher]

and i'm meant to be the old fuck that doesn't know all the shorthand 😛

[summer horizon]

How old r u?

Like 25<

[proper cipher]

35, so not that old but apparently on the internet i may as well be 90

[summer horizon]

WHAT im 13 i ong thought u were like 27

Ur the same age as my dad

[proper cipher]

yeah that sounds about right

[summer horizon]

Crazy

U wanna see my pc tho

[proper cipher]

is it a particularly cool build or something?

[summer horizon]

Ill show u rate it from 1/10 ill dm u

[proper cipher]

the fuck? you built a pc in a tyre?

or you just found that on reddit somewhere and thought it was cool?

[summer horizon]

Basically my pc but no my real pc is like 1600$

Hold on ill try and find it

Yay

1300£ maybe

[proper cipher]

pretty normal box compared to the tyre rig lmao

[summer horizon]

I kinda wanna build a pc in a gaming chair made of glass

Or a car seat

[proper cipher]

i just wanna get a desk with a lift so i can go from seated to standing, and have a little treadmill under it so i can walk around a bit while i'm working

never been a fan of sitting still too long lol

[vivid flower]

Any one selling fully kitted Glocks ( no drum mags) of to hit me up

[royal wagon]

this is not the appropriate channel for that, it only belongs in #🤝・pvp-groupfinder

[vivid flower]

Kk

[fierce glacier]

any recs for index

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[blissful olive]

@pure crown

[blissful olive]

@pure crown

[blissful olive]

@pure crown

We jus joking on some stocks ignore us

[lethal sinew]

@pure crown @blissful olive you guys should try it:
https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[plush mesa]

$100 for that?!

shit i bet let alone a 2-3week ship date

[icy cobalt]

STL files are available on his discord if you'd prefer, or a DIY kit on his website for ~35. You're paying 100 for the service and warranty on one of the primo stock manufacturers.

[tropic quest]

hey guys, do you have the same problem if you want du calibrate your physical gun-stock??

[royal wagon]

read the pin

[plush mesa]

got any from amazon. i once owned the glistco one but it took 2 weeks to ship and another to arrive.

[icy cobalt]

Nope. Basically no stocks on Amazon is worth the time. The good manufacturers basically all sell from their own website, and none have next day shipping.

[spring venture]

I use protube magtube with stock

Full 5 point turned sideways

[royal wagon]

5?

[royal wagon]

whats the 5th contact point?

[spring venture]

Unfortunately i misread but honestly the right forearm because its the only way to set it up

[royal wagon]

hm, well, you could probably make something use that as a bracing point, but it would definitely reduce mobility

generally you talk about 4 points, two hands, shoulder, cheek

with additional support from some strap techniques

[spare lagoon]

alrighty its been a little over a month since ive popped in, anything new related to gunstock calibration?

[royal wagon]

no

[vale grove]

What are y’all’s opinion on the Onestock by wield.

[still crater]

Just looked at it and HELL NAHHH that is wayy too expensive

Just get a bowk for like half the price

[vale grove]

Alr ig

that one looks sick, does it stop my controllers from rotating around the carbon pipe itself?

[hollow zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m-wDsdlC-A

[valid lichen]

What is a good and relatively cheap Gunstock for the PICO 4

[limpid gyro]

what are good stocks for just the quest 1 like the og one

[faint wigeon]

A classic PVC pipe gunstock, just find a design you like online, to mimic.

The hardest part of the process is creating the controller cups, simply take two PVC couplings (I don't remember the size off hand, but I believe 1in will do) heat up the couplings in boiling water (roughly 10mins).

Then when they're nice and hot/malleable, simply push your controllers into the couplings and let them cool.

The rest is just a matter of connecting everything into the design and configuration you like.

[limpid gyro]

ight thanks man

[austere pike]

made a gun stock for tabor today , all ready to test it out to find out there is no more option for stock calibrating .... seriously sucks

[remote tiger]

they removed it?

[austere pike]

well i dont have the calibrate physical stock anymore

[remote tiger]

make sure your are in ur bunker

[austere pike]

in settings

[remote tiger]

not ur training area

[austere pike]

oh

[remote tiger]

lol

[austere pike]

damn such a dumb fix but thanks man ill try that live

[royal wagon]

check the pin in this channel on how to use it optimally

[remote tiger]

yes @austere pike def do that ^

what ragesaq said

[austere pike]

thanks guys

[remote tiger]

np 🙂

[icy cobalt]

See y'all! I'm gone and I don't know when I'll be back. Today's my last day before flying out.

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/godspeed-good-luck-you-got-this-you-can-do-it-david-costabile-gif-11764271

[lethal sinew]

Take care bud!

[astral kiln]

any1 here that got a 3d printed gunstock?

[remote tiger]

what system are you looking for

[astral kiln]

quest 1 rift s

both got the same controllers

[astral kiln]

especially the sanlaki one from thingiverse/printables.com/cults3D

[austere pike]

wow calibration really sucks lol

calibrate with a stock ak , ak looks fine , take my scar H with a sight, looking straight in the stock of the gun.. so from what i understand The ''class'' you calibrate is only this particular weapon so all i can play and aim proprely are ak's for the rifle class , nice

[royal wagon]

the pin outlines the limitationos of the current gunstock calibration process, you'll need to decide what you want to use and calibrate for that

its mostly a guns with foregrip vs guns without foregrip thing

[austere pike]

needing to recalibrate each time i want to switch between a m4 and ak or other rifle really sucks

needing to recalibrate each time i add attachements to a gun also s***

[royal wagon]

again, its the difference in the gun socket geometry. if you calibrate for an m4 you can use the galil, scar, m1sass, tapco sks, ak alpha, etc without any issues

you are just altering the global socket geometry, all by the same amount for that class

[austere pike]

maybe but still the aiming position is so different is ruins it all

[icy cobalt]

If you have any kind of vertical adjustment in your stock, it's a non issue. My marksman can use every single gun in game save the stock sks without altering calibration.

[austere pike]

all 'classes' are calibrated yet you can only play certain types of gun in that class or it wont alling proprely so can't take another guy's gun if out of ammo because calibration wont be ajusted to his gun/attachement even in the came rifle class , that was not clear and kinda wish i knew before now lol

[royal wagon]

i dont know how it could have been spelled out more in the pin

[icy cobalt]

See my post. Can and have done exactly that.

[austere pike]

trying my best srry im french

[royal wagon]

just hit reset then

[icy cobalt]

Think of it like this. Calibration moves only your rear hand. If you have a decent stock, you can make it so a vertical adjustment covers every gun in game.

[austere pike]

looking at streams and vids it looked so nice easy n sweet lol its not , just wanted to aim better without having the front controller shaking and missing shot at long distance with a scope , ends up i can only play this gun with thi scope or i cant aim 4 shit hahah its feel like i switched from a bad knee to a bad shoulder yoinkss

[austere pike]

yeah but still need to adjust vertically at every diff gun u pick , man in a fight this so much pain in the a**

[royal wagon]

what gunstock do you have?

[austere pike]

i dont regret not buying the 300$ model lol

a straight , fixed one

[royal wagon]

yeah, theres your biggest problem

imo a gunstock that is not fully adjustable is not worth buying

its just like... ignoring the entire history of VR shooters

[austere pike]

i knew there was some issues but i dont see how in a raid , having to adjust your stock is a better choise

choice*

[icy cobalt]

Sorry man. At any price point, we can do better than that

[royal wagon]

i can adjust from an m4 with a foregrip to a classic SKS in about 0.1 seconds

precisely

[icy cobalt]

See you rage, respect you

[royal wagon]

its two notches down on my normal position that i use for ak alpha / m4 / m1sass / tapco sks

one notch up for the AWM

[austere pike]

so you just push / pull the controllers to adjust ?

[royal wagon]

more or less

the front cup is not indexed, so i just adjust that to get the sight position centered, the center joint is indexed so i just adjust that two steps

[austere pike]

ok i though it was some types of butterflies screw i had to screw and unscrew to tight it in a certain position

makes more sense

i was like on the hell ppl do that in a raid

how*

[royal wagon]

i will also say ive had to do it during a raid exactly 0 times int he past 30 raids

i only do it when i decide to change my loadout

i make a proper weapon choice before entering raid

[austere pike]

yes i get it but i do not use the same loadout all the time , i use what i have and add foregrip laser sight

now i know its 50/50 kinda good for stable aiming but all the tweaks and setting force you to change your gameplay to use mostly the same loadout unless u wanna tweak it over again , because of that and even if it help to switch between 2 weapon of the same class instead of using the same old one i still dont think its worth 300$ , at this price id like something op af that works like a charm whitout any contraint but thats personal choice and im no content creator but only casual tabor player

[royal wagon]

a magtube isnt $300, and they are made right there in france

not sure where you got that impression

[sturdy wraith]

i made a gunstock with cardboard, painters tape, and a small stick of bamboo 😐

its that easy

[boreal oyster]

how tf

send pic

[sturdy wraith]

can't

im on pc

[boreal oyster]

aw

[sturdy wraith]

i just used a chicken tenders box 💀

[tall rose]

I soooo want proof of that

Also how is that thing not crusty

[sturdy wraith]

it was one of them boxes that you would get from sams club

its contents was in a plastic bag so yea

[proper cipher]

it really isn't hard to make a functional stock

i used plumbing pipe for mine

really wanna try making a modified version of the freedomstock, since the guy doesn't ship to the UK anyway so i can't actually buy one

[naive fog]

Anybody got a tutorial for a diy gunstock

[remote tiger]

here

@naive fog

[naive fog]

Thanks

[tired jasper]

Magni Stock+ Carbon Fiber VR Gun Stock is good for ghost of tabor?

[tranquil gull]

Yes 🤓

[tired jasper]

fr or u joking?

[tranquil gull]

I mean, it's lightweight sturdy and has a sling, the magnets are nice

[tired jasper]

it wont be hard for looting and stuff?

@tranquil gull

[tranquil gull]

That's why you have the magnets so you can take the conyrollets out tho? And the gunstock will be around you with the sling until you put them back

Obviously it will be hard until you get used to it but

[tired jasper]

oh ok thanks

[fleet birch]

I’d be careful with that 1, I got it and they didn’t 3d print a few of the holes right and I was missing 2 screws

@tired jasper this 1 caught my eye if you’re looking for lightweight but sturdy and strong magnets. https://youtu.be/FVdrkvJrJwo

[remote tiger]

^ this stock is high teir design and quality

ESPICALLY for the price point

[thin thistle]

Take a look at the VR-hs with the SMG attachment, works with all guns in tabor

[tired jasper]

ye but i dont want to order from a random site i want to order from amazon or etsy

is this the same one?

[fleet birch]

The guy that makes that is in the discord, he has an Amazon page too. If I can find his @ I’ll let you know

Roughly

[tired jasper]

so should i get it?

or the other one i said

i dont live in the us

it says only in us

@fleet birch

istock stockholder is ogod?

[fleet birch]

The 2nd looks looks like better long term, stronger magnets, you should be able to replace the holders if they get messed up

[tired jasper]

this one?

[fleet birch]

Yeah

[tired jasper]

it wont just open when i hold it cuz the magnets

[remote tiger]

Gunface can scuff your headset

Be careful

Also I would foresee tracking issues with it

Bc it’s so close to ur face

[tired jasper]

so what should i get

for like 70$

[remote tiger]

What’s ur budget and system

[fleet birch]

Take his word over mine

[tired jasper]

quest 2

[remote tiger]

I sell one for 34.96 I’ll send u some info to ur dm. @faint wigeon sells one for a little bit more than that. He only sells usa tho idk if that’s an issue

[lethal sinew]

Freedom stock website is fine. Support the indie seller direct! 😂 I've bought it just fine

[tired jasper]

it says only usa

[remote tiger]

He also sells on Etsy

[tired jasper]

can u send the link

[lethal sinew]

Ah, sad then.

[remote tiger]

Do u live in USA?

[fleet birch]

@faint wigeon is who’s im getting

[tired jasper]

no

[remote tiger]

yea unf he only sells in the USA

take a look at ur dm

[fleet birch]

Yeah

[tired jasper]

so what should i get pls help me guys cuz i want to order rn

[remote tiger]

i sent you a dm with info

[tired jasper]

i am not downloading stuff sry

@fleet birch @lethal sinew can someone give me a amazon link or etsy for some good gunstocks for 70$

[lethal sinew]

DM = direct messages, not downloads.

There's a thread for user reviews here:
#1123529753274634251 message

I think if your budget were slightly more, you should get a Modus R once he's back from vacation in October

[sullen lodge]

What's his look like

[tidal smelt]

Buying this soon

Content is about to go hard for me

[remote tiger]

oh lord

[remote tiger]

@faint wigeon

[tidal smelt]

Getting the pistol controller as well already got a vest and a holster

[remote tiger]

many of us here would advice agains that stock but you do you

[tidal smelt]

What's the best one on the market atm

[remote tiger]

depends on how much you wana spend and what system

[tidal smelt]

Quest 2 and price is no worry

[remote tiger]

if price is no worry then i have no clue. i make one for 34.96 that gets the job done well. for tabor the best one will prob be cheezys freedomstock @faint wigeon can get u some info. ill send some of my info to ur dm take a look

[tidal smelt]

For sure right now I'm looking for two queststocks for me and my bro we just started out not too long ago and we are beginner content creators

[remote tiger]

gotcha i would recomend not to go balls to the walls in price. get something you can use for a good while and then if you like it upgrade

[lethal sinew]

Don't do it fam: #1123529753274634251 message

[turbid acorn]

Bro this is the gunstock they gave away in the give away 💀

[limpid gyro]

low key i just bought i’ll give it a honest review when i get it just for anyone in the market

[void galleon]

I'm looking for a gunstock, what are y'all real come and

recommend

[lethal trail]

Does anyone use the ultra brace alpha kit

I was thinking about getting it but idk

[unkempt dagger]

@turbid acorn the one I made is pretty much the same. 🤣. Although it’s probably lighter than mine.

[proper cipher]

depends if you wanna blow a load of money or if you wanna make one yourself, you can get some polumbing pipe at a hardware store and have a perfectly good comfy stock

if you're in america and wanna throw some money around though the freedomstock looks pretty nice

[void galleon]

Ok

You have any recommendations for sniping

[proper cipher]

sit on the floor and rest your hand on your knee for more stability?

[void galleon]

Ok

[proper cipher]

freedomstock does let you configure the length on the fly though so that might help, but any stock is gonna make it easier to hold steady

protube is a really popular one, i've not really got any complaints with the one i made for $10

[void galleon]

Ok ty

[royal wagon]

Magtube

No, but you can get faster shipping than Amazon probably. ProtubeVR.com

[stuck haven]

Gunstock drip 🔥 💯 🔥

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/296416183425564675/1154995670038622279/VID_20230922_2315284482.mp4

Forcetube Storm + Provolver

[wild ruin]

Kind of sort of but not really. Very limited options, low stock availability, sold out in some regions. As rage said better to buy direct from our website. More options, cheaper, and much faster shipping.

[sour dew]

It ain’t much but it’s good enough 👉🏽😎👉🏽

[slate swan]

I don’t care about the gunstock I want a picture of that cat

[sour dew]

Ask and you shall receive

[stuck turret]

anybody wanna give some recommendations but dont be biased to your own product

[thin thistle]

Im currently designing a gunstock that can be adjusted along the main pole simply by rocking the hand back and sliding. No need to disengage.

[remote tiger]

Budget and system?

[stuck turret]

under 70 and quest 2/3

[stuck turret]

.

[remote tiger]

Gotcha. Well I’d like 85 which Ik is a little more. @faint wigeon has a really good gunstock. I personally sell one for 34.96 that is a more budget friendly one. There are a handful of others out there for that price but some have serious issues. I’ll send u a dm with info. Check it out if curious

[raw anchor]

yoooo, how much did u spend on material been thinking of doing the same for my Pico4

i need a list

[iron pike]

—(HELP)—after I calibrated my gunstock for all the types of guns it looks great when holding it with one hand but as soon and I put my other hand on the front it is is unusable

[remote tiger]

there is a pin in this channel that takes you through the required steps.

take a look at it and folow closely

[daring summit]

My stock is not adjustable which has its ups and downs but sometimes if I have a gun that is too long or too short they become unusable because my hand is way off irl than it should be in game. You cant hold and uzi with one hand on the trigger and another on the grip when your hand is in too far or out to far

[remote tiger]

@daring summit to fix do this. instead of putting your controler in and then gripping. grip the gun first and then hold and place it into its slot

[daring summit]

Thats not my issue thats a response to the other guys issue

[remote tiger]

oh i see

@iron pike check waht i said ^^

[iron pike]

I don’t know how to see pinned on mobile and I’m not at my desktop rn

Nvm

Found it

[remote tiger]

gotcha so swipe right or left i forget which one and at the top you should see a thumbtack

[iron pike]

Why can’t they just have an option to make the front grip not affect the angle…

[remote tiger]

im right there with you. im hoping they make updates to the gunstock cal soon

[iron pike]

I would take them like 15 min to code an option in to make the front grip not affect the angle

[royal wagon]

Because the front grip should always affect the angle

This isn’t a game with 1 handed guns

[fast drift]

whats the best way to calibrate for istock?

[faint wigeon]

iStock isn't a real stock, its just a stabilizing brace, so you really cant calibrate it since there is no "off hand adjustments".

[fast drift]

alright thanks man, feels a lot better then when i calibrated it lmao

[royal wagon]

You can, there are benefits still to be had

The default gun offsets are rough, in game triggers are way off from the controller triggers

Your sight relief options are pushed out a lot because of this

[strong narwhal]

Anyonerknow how to use bhaptics vest

[tall hamlet]

Does anyone have any suggestions of gunstock?

[thin thistle]

VR-HS works perfect with Tabor and all guns thanks to the new SMG attachment

[tidal helm]

anyone have a affordable gunstock suggestion?

[remote tiger]

@tall hamlet @tidal helm i sell my QuestStock V3.0.1 for 34.96 to most here my product is considered THE affordable gunstock. check your dms ill send some info

[old crown]

Heyo, my gunstock from @remote tiger arrived!
I'm now ready to make my review. The controllers stay within their holsters very well, and the assembly was quite easy. It comes with built in holes for a sling, and is pretty durable. My only recommendation for the guy in charge, is to add magnets to the front grip, so you can super easily detach and reattach your controller.

[remote tiger]

@old crown Very glad you like your stock:)
currently in the design stage for an even better model and i have been toying with the idea of offering a magnet version!

[old crown]

Very nice!
I'd be willing to pay ~10-15 extra for just the magnets option. Can't wait to see where it leads
If you need any help, I'm experiencing in designing things for 3d printers.

[remote tiger]

i would really app that. if anything i would offer the mag version as a "pro" model. we will see 🙂

[old crown]

Also maybe make the top side of the stock a bit longer, I feel like that would be nice

[tidal helm]

when are you going to send the info? i’m interested.

[remote tiger]

I think I already did let me 2x check

Yep I already did @tidal helm check ur message requests

Lmk if u still can’t see it

[fast drift]

Anyone use the LoPro from olenvr?

[versed jackal]

It's better than nothing

[lethal sinew]

Doesn't the sling slow you down? Otherwise, it looks great

[versed jackal]

No it doesn't just so I can easily remove the controller out of the gun stock so I can pick up my backpack and stuff

[lethal sinew]

Cool cool, just thought the stock was light enough to just use regardless of sling. When I thought up the failstock, that's how I envisioned people using it.

perpetually gripped

[bold nest]

What is a good gunstock to buy?

[quaint trout]

i use skol vr tomohawk gun stock

[dusky mural]

any good stocks out there for 40 ish

[untold raft]

depends what you are looking for but check out the range of gunstocks at https://sanlaki.shop/collections/all

[hasty saffron]

i dont have a gunstock

[clear lily]

Ngl i feel like a gunstock is better for games like onward because you dont have to loot and shit

[long void]

my gun is swinging around alot when i use a gun stock. i thinck the stock i messing with the tracking. is their a way to fix this

[royal wagon]

what system?

[remote tiger]

@bold nest I’ll send you a dm with info!

[peak oar]

Does anybody have like a good suggestion for a Quest two? Gunstock? I heard of one that doesn't have a magnet in the front and you just support it with your arm but I've never been able to find it.

[remote tiger]

I sell one that uses no magnents for 34.96

ill send some info to ur dm

[thin thistle]

Its called the VR-HS and its at Exact3d.co.uk

[sweet wren]

What’s a good stock I can 3D print

[bold nest]

@sweet wren tomahawk gunstock

[gray maple]

Well you can’t 3d print yourself but you can buy it for 175

[bold nest]

@gray maple dang that sounds amazing though

[gray maple]

Like no one can 3d print it besides the creator of it so

[bold nest]

its bc of the new hardware and small pox meaning printing stuff

[gray maple]

Yeah unfortunately

[bold nest]

the best looking ones look so basic

i dont see the MLG ones

[lethal sinew]

Which are those? Care to enlighten me?

[bold nest]

it more focus on the metal carbon fiber and some solid joints

and a switchable strap

plus a good grip

[gray maple]

Which in my opinion I would publicly release the tomahawk files for money it self

[lethal sinew]

I have the tomahawk, shit is heavy. You're gonna be using up a ton of filament for one lol

I personally dislike it

[gray maple]

They probably put 100% infill which idk why they would

[bold nest]

it looks febiel like it can collapse

[lethal sinew]

I wrote a review on it here: #1123529753274634251 message

[bold nest]

oh cool

looking for a cheap one tho

[lethal sinew]

If you scroll down a bit more, you'll see one you can make at home yourself with two clothes hangers, cardboard and tape 😂

[bold nest]

that sounds like a mission

like a tube and some plastic 3d printer xD

[gray maple]

To much effort for me that and also I’m on index now

[lethal sinew]

It's very MacGyver

Yeah, for index, you should go with the protube. Nothing but good reviews in here for that one

Theres some other good ones in the pins

[gray maple]

I have one already

[bold nest]

the pro tube is not really a pro tube

[lethal sinew]

Lol

[bold nest]

the joints are super loose

[lethal sinew]

Can't you tighten them?

[gray maple]

Gotta tighten them

[bold nest]

yeah but its not solid

[gray maple]

It’s very solid that’s the thing

Bc it has not moved once since I got mine

[bold nest]

oh

i seen it can bend

[gray maple]

We’re they using the metal tubes or the carbon ones

It’s also user error at that point aswell

[bold nest]

what is the user error

[gray maple]

If it bends bc they didn’t tighten the joints properly

Or they miss use it

[open bramble]

I bought the spine from Olen and now I now it’s bad but it’s to late, should I wait to see if it gets better in tarbor or buy a new one

[indigo quest]

MagTube from Protube is Good!

[pure crown]

Are there gunstocks for the quest pro? My friend can’t find any

[untold raft]

the Sanlaki range are compatible with the Quest Pro https://sanlaki.shop

[native bluff]

Damn you gonna buy me one? Those expensive lol

[untold raft]

This is one of the popular options for GOT. Comes with an extenison part for your off hand to stablise on https://sanlaki.shop/collections/all/products/sanlaki-pullstock

[native bluff]

Lemme hold $10

[remote tiger]

thats an awesome vr gunstock!😂

[acoustic nest]

Very realistic

[potent hound]

You load blanks to simulate recoil

[faint wigeon]

No, you load live ammo, It raises the stakes and makes you really think about every shot you take in game lol.

[potent hound]

Send a round straight through the wall, into your neighbor , so you really think about shots

[faint wigeon]

Thats not the ingame VOIP of an enemy player begging for their life you hear lol

[remote tiger]

LOLLL

[acoustic nest]

0-0

So if they add mines I should use my tm62?

I mean technically that's a antitank mine

So there would have to be tanks

[acoustic nest]

They deleted my photo lol

[remote tiger]

lolll

[hearty coral]

@everyone what is the best gunstock that holds both quest 2 controllers but on a bit of a budget like around $50-70

[lethal trail]

Bro really tried to at everyone

[remote tiger]

@hearty coral i sell one that fits excatly what you are looking for but also for 34.96

ill send you a dm

[fringe ice]

Is there anything I can do about guns like the hunter or sks just not being able to line up with my sight? I’ve got this stock

[royal wagon]

Not really, read the pin it will help you understand how to deal with a fixed position stock

But ultimately there are very good reassons like this why they are not recommended by people who have used stocks a lot

[thin thistle]

The VR-HS gunstock it available for all platforms including the Index and it alluminium so alot more solid than you think

[cinder sedge]

What is gunstock? Are you talking about a irl gunstock for a real firearm? Or something else?

[misty nimbus]

We are talking about a platform that holds our controllers for ease of aiming. And a lot of them have a stock on the end to simulate it being a gun. Not all of em though.

[cinder sedge]

Oh thats sick, they expensive?

[misty nimbus]

I’m not an expert, and I don’t personally use one, so I don’t really know the exact price range.

[cinder sedge]

Oh alright, thanks for the info!

[remote tiger]

@cinder sedge they can be expensive. there are some out here that are 200+ USD. i personally sell one for 34.96. Ill send some info to ur dm to check out!

[cinder sedge]

Thanks for the offer but I don't just have that money.

[remote tiger]

no worries!

[formal nimbus]

I specialy use it to pavlov and tabor and sometime i need to be precise i use it to navigate trough things Xd

[compact topaz]

@tidal smelt don't recommend I got this and it was a horrible experience unusable

Been using a cheaper off brand version of this stock for about 3 weeks and it works great, better than the other 3 types I tried

[astral kiln]

any1 here that printed the sanlaki stock by himself?

[near kernel]

didnt print one but i bought one, not the best stock in my experience, the tabs to hold the controller eventually snap, lots of tracking issues with the front handle, its a big learning curve for magnetic attachment stocks

[near kernel]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1390570798/kobra-sidewinder-gunstock-with-optional this one became my new daily, the tabs that hold the controller snapped on these as well, but some zip ties or velcro straps keep my controllers in place

[astral kiln]

mhh okay, iim just asking bc i want to print one myself and dont know what metalpipes to buy

[astral kiln]

im on rift s so a quest 2 gunstock doesnt do much for me

[near kernel]

ahh, that makes sense

[faint wigeon]

@royal wagon just out of curiosity.

With the looming Index 2 announcement, If Valve announced the Index 2, and it switches to inside out tracking and became a wireless PCVR device (to stay up to date with the current technological progression/trends of the VR industry).

Would you upgrade to that version of an Index 2?

[astral kiln]

do u know if i can print that one by myself?

[near kernel]

nah, the guy doesn't share his 3d blueprints

[astral kiln]

mhh sad

do u know if i can get contact to him? maybe buy the files

[near kernel]

through etsy, he responds pretty quickly too

[royal wagon]

given valves track record with quality, i dont see them implementing a tracking solution with as many compromised aspects to it as the quest 1/2/3, probably fully self tracked like the quest pro controllers, but also it probably being lighthouse compatible

[near kernel]

leaks have shown that index 2 will likely be a standalone headset, the fact that the VR market is going crazy with wireless devices; it would make sense for valve to dip their toes in. It's now dependant if they want to compete with more affordable headsets like quest 2 and 3, or if they would rather target the enthusiasts, set a price point of $1k packed with tons of features, they could compete with Apple's VR.

[astral kiln]

contacted him but i think i wont get the files from him

[royal wagon]

it will be standalone with significant PCVR integration, with many advanced features that have yet to be seen in any device

its going to be more than 1k probably

[near kernel]

yeah I hope valve goes all in on this headset after seeing the success of meta's quest 2

[near kernel]

good luck, i honestly don't think he will sell it 😦

[astral kiln]

ohh btw do u know what metal pipes sanlaki guy used for the stock? i really need to know which ones bc i really need a stock for shooter im so bad

[near kernel]

3/4" x 10"

or if you are a smaller person the 8" will work

[astral kiln]

okay, cause is aw the post people said 1/2" x 10"

[near kernel]

double check the threading on the prints itself, it could be 1/2, but i just measured the one I have and the pipe is 3/4"

[astral kiln]

You can try the INT (internation) version if you got the regular 1/2" pipes. They may fit but not 100% sure...

thats what it says on the site

[near kernel]

so you would print the INT version if you get 1/2" pipes, but the other version i'm assuming is for 3/4" pipe

[astral kiln]

i think so too

10" is like 25cm right?

[near kernel]

yeah about

you need a 10" pipe for the main body and a 6" pipe for the buttstock

[astral kiln]

really? thought u need 3 10"

[near kernel]

lol no, not sure what kind or stock that would make xD

[near kernel]

i just took mine apart to double check and i was wrong too, mine has 2 8" pipes and 1 10" pipe

[astral kiln]

okay

[astral kiln]

i think i do it like everyone in the comments, just get 3 1/2x 20cm

[near kernel]

its more cost efficient seeing as how pipes come in no less than 4 packs online. you will have a shorter barrel with this setup and less magnetic attachment space in the front but it would work

[astral kiln]

i know, but its better to buy 1 4 pack of the same lenght than 2 4 packs for 2 different

[near kernel]

yeah exactly, might as well

[astral kiln]

i will see but thank you very much for your help

[near kernel]

glad to help 👍🏿

[elder ether]

Does anyone wanna run silo or island

[royal wagon]

the only appropriate channel for that on this server is #🤝・pvp-groupfinder

yes, even if "no one is there"

[elder ether]

Ops

Mb the last channel I was in was group finder

I thought I was still it

Sorry

[mortal parcel]

@royal wagon hey rage so I’m trying to adjust my gunstock calibration I find that my hand offset rotation on 50 is perfect for my hands and when I use pistols then I turn on physical gunstock and adjusted calibration and guns line up good but the problem I’m having is that when I grab and rifle then put it down, my hand offset rotation goes all the way down and my hands are pointing at the floor, resulting in me holding my pistol at the ground when trying to aim straight any fixes for this?

[royal wagon]

dont use your hand rotation offset for rifles, only for pistols

gunstock calibration sets its own hand rotation for that class of weapons

50 sounds like it should point at the floor

[mortal parcel]

Yes I know but when I put the rifle away my original offset goes away and I can’t hold my Glock straight anymore

[royal wagon]

yes, its pretty messed up like that

there are bugs with the hand pitch and gunstock calibration overriding each other

dont plan on using both weapons in a single raid and you'll be fine

reset the game, get a pistol, fix your hand pitch offset, quit and reload, then reset your gunstock calibration and run through the pinned guide and you might be able to get them closer

[mortal parcel]

I’m using oculus air link to my pc and 50 allows me to aim my Glock straight then I grab a rifle and it changes the offset which is fine for my rifle then when I drop the rifle my hands stay pointing down and I have to change my offset by 1 to revert back to allow me to use my Glock

@royal wagon alright I’m gonna try that right now

[royal wagon]

but what are you doing switching to pistol anyways? plan appropriately and bring the right gun in with you

[mortal parcel]

Thank you. So I’m gonna join reset hand pitch to 0 then quit the game rejoin set it to 50 for my Glock leave then rejoin then do my gunstock calibration

Yeah basically I would like to switch to my side arm in case I run out of ammo with my rifle

[royal wagon]

try not setting it to 50, that sounds like a rather extreme setting

thats why you bring more mags for your rifle

[mortal parcel]

Maybe my setting is messed up because 50 sets it to normal for me

[royal wagon]

my setting is like, 5

or 6

[mortal parcel]

Anyway I can reset all my settings to try to fix any problems?

[royal wagon]

yes, delete your savegame, see the pins in #❓・questions on procedure and all questions you will have on the subject

[mortal parcel]

Thank you

[arctic ice]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-this-gives-me-pain-painful-lego-smile-gif-16159475

[thin thistle]

The VR-HS gunstock allows for use with all guns due to its SMG Attachment in GOT

[digital urchin]

Amazing gun stock, a little pricey because it’s not mass manufactured. They’re made by a single person and take a few weeks to arrive because it’s international but if y’all are interested I can send you the link to order one. The red one is $230

Including shipping

[full ivy]

I’m sure this has been said many times but I’m not looking through the history…

if different guns and grips greatly effect the gun angle then the game does NOT effectively support a physical gunstock. Some stocks have quick adjusts that can be done on the fly but most of us cannot easily make in-game adjustments every time we switch guns. Tabor needs to copy other games that get it right. For example Onward finally overhauled their gunstock calibration and it’s near perfect. Please rip it off!!! 😅

[remote tiger]

agree

[royal wagon]

I don’t think you can blame a game for your stocks shortcomings, it’s been known since the very first VR stocks that fully adjustable is a necessary requirement

[remote tiger]

nobody wants to have to physically adjustthe angle of their gunstock for every different gun they pick up. its much nicer for the software to do thatfor us

[mortal parcel]

I agree last night I found a way to make the game work with my KobraVR Sidewinder thanks to the help from @royal wagon but it still has some drawbacks and cons I have to accept whereas in Pavlov for an example, I can adjust each and every weapon separately to match my gunstock so I do not have to choose which gun to use I can use all of them flawlessly

Also it’s not talked about a lot on here, but if I do much as place a grip on my gun in GOT, my whole stock alignment is ruined so, that’s one of the drawbacks I can’t use grips

I would love if they could start reworking the gunstock calibration in this game but they haven’t announced anything about it and i don’t even know if they read this channels chat

[royal wagon]

Stocks have to support games, not the other way around

[remote tiger]

ehh i think they should more an less support each other

[full ivy]

That would mean every stock would need the ability to be adjusted in the fly. This would increase the cost and weight while reducing rigidity and reliability. Seems a bit unreasonable.
Almost every other popular VR shooter that supports gunstocks does at least an acceptable job at this, some are near perfect (Onward & Contractor$ for example).
I'm sure we all love GoT but it's OK to admit they don't have something worked out just yet. It doesn't mean you're a hater. Cool-Aid isn't good for you. Stop drinking it. 😅

Also I have a Mamut Apto3 Wasp with some 3rd party joints, buttstock and main tube. Did some mods to make it very rigid. It may be the most adjustable stock there is but not for on the fly quick changes.

[royal wagon]

the very first commercially available gunstock was fully adjustable, this has been a known thing since the very start of VR shooters

and yes, i can easily adjust it on the fly

[full ivy]

Protube?

[royal wagon]

yep

i dont need to adjust it because i only use one weapon per raid

[full ivy]

I've added knobs to my Mamut so it's just as adjustable as the protube. Still not something I'd want to do in-game. Took the knobs off.

[royal wagon]

i took the knobs off my protube about 7 years ago

they arent needed for adjustments

its unreasonable as a customer to expect every game developer to conform their development to fit whatever i think a particular stock should be

[full ivy]

Zero to hero runs? Who knows what you'll pickup...

[royal wagon]

thats the job of the stock manufacturer

i dont believe in zero to hero runs as it defeats the risk:reward structure of the game, going in with no risk is a cheap way to play imo

i'll let other people get the opporitunity to get my gear by beating me

killing nakeds is boring

[full ivy]

Not trying to argue but... If a game is going to support a physical gunstock then do it, if not don't. The gunstock support in Tabor is flawed for sure.

[royal wagon]

again you are saying developers should conform to what customers thinks stocks should be

[hollow magnet]

no hes not, stop arguing with him on a completely reasonable assessment

contractors and onward nailed it

[full ivy]

The customer or literally every other VR game that supports gunstocks.

[royal wagon]

maybe save the argument for when GOT has been out for as long as contractors

[hollow magnet]

thats not what you were saying

[full ivy]

Sure fair enough. The devs need time to get everything right

Onward has been out for years and they only got gunstock calibration near perfect a few weeks ago.
Hopefully GoT doesn't take that long. 🤣

[remote tiger]

if i was to take a wild guess. they will improve their gunstock cal when they drop their own stock. they would be STUPID to not update it and then have their products not to work seamlessly with their own game

[unique onyx]

anyone here uses a magtube?

[royal wagon]

i do

[unique onyx]

how is it i got one on the way but i wanna hear from other people

do i need any spacific settings when i use a stock?

[royal wagon]

its fantastic

i have this on how i have it configured

https://clips.twitch.tv/PricklyTubularBarracudaPicoMause-vxFUP585vkUbiZyi

[fathom creek]

are there any gun stocks that are like 30$

[remote tiger]

quest 2? @fathom creek

[fathom creek]

yes

[remote tiger]

ill send you a dm

[fathom creek]

k

[lethal sinew]

DIY: #1123529753274634251 message or get Toxic_Smoke's offering. I have toxic's stock. I've played with it in one session so far, seems solid enough at the price point, it's adequate.

[fathom creek]

ty i just got that btw

[sacred loom]

hi guys

[remote tiger]

hello

[full ivy]

Do you have access to a 3D printer? If so the BowkVR stock is excellent and James has most models linked on his Discord for free download. It's not what I use as I got hooked on a magnetic stock from the start but many serious players swear by the performance of the BowkVR. I do sometimes use the BowkVR Marksman butt stock add-on, very nice!
I can't post the link he but if you want it I'll DM. lmk

[clear wind]

Any one have a cheap gun stock

[lethal sinew]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[pure crown]

That is the dumbest thing I’ve read in a minute

[faint wyvern]

Im getitng that one

[primal zealot]

Could someone send me a link to a ginstock for quest 2 please, preferably less than 100 bucks

[untold raft]

https://sanlaki.shop/collections/all/products/sanlaki-lite-vr-gunstock

[magic zenith]

Whats the cheapest usable gunstock on the market

[valid lichen]

there is a pretty good stock (imo) called the Vrifle gunstock i have not bought it but based off the reviews it looks pretty good. It has a magnet in the middle so you can deattach your offhand and be able to reload and do other things. Here is a link to all of their quest 2 gunstocks https://www.vrifle-3d.de/quest-2

[magic zenith]

Tysm that perfectly fits my budget

[valid lichen]

no problem

[remote tiger]

Hey I’ll send you a dm with info

[thin thistle]

https://exact3d.co.uk

[untold raft]

VRifle are yet another thorn in the side of Sanlaki. Who will forever be plagued by people who have ripped off his old free thingiverse files. Some people have no shame.

[faint wigeon]

Why make your own design and innovate, when you can just be a lazy asshole and rip off someone else's hard work and sell it.. its a real shame,

and the general public isn't the wiser that these stocks are just rip offs (nor do they probably care, in there defense, they just want a cheap gunstock)

[untold raft]

You're absolutely right and it's the players that suffer. Sanlaki offered his files for free to those that wanted to make their own, as many do. Shame.

[untold raft]

Can we create a pin with undesirable brands to steer clear of? 🤔

[faint wigeon]

Check your dm's!

[valid lichen]

well i cant make my own because i have no 3d printer and i cant print it myself or anywhere else

[valid lichen]

What do you recommend to buy that isnt a ripoff?

[remote tiger]

@valid lichen ill send some info to ur dm. i sell one for quest 2 for 34.96

[valid lichen]

the problem is i got a pico

[remote tiger]

Ohhhhhh

[valid lichen]

yeah

[ebon bone]

what's a good question 2 stock I should look for?

[remote tiger]

what is your price range

[ebon bone]

30 40 idk not to steep

[remote tiger]

gotcha i sell one for 34.96
ill send you a dm

[ebon bone]

ight

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[restive pelican]

Anyone have a stock I can easily take my hands out of to reach into my bag for mags and nades?

[remote tiger]

what system and what price range

[restive pelican]

Quest 2, 50 to 150

[remote tiger]

ill send you a dm

[restive pelican]

Alright

Freedom stock is out of “Stock” ha. Ha. Ha.

[karmic pine]

Can I get that link to?

[sullen lodge]

Is the quest 3 controllers gonna be the pro controllers

[remote tiger]

@karmic pine sending now

[faint wigeon]

I'm back in stock lol

[royal wagon]

no

quest 3 has its own controllers

[sullen lodge]

Yea they are I just looked at them

[royal wagon]

no, the quest 3 has its own controllers that are not the pro controllers

this has been made abundantly, specifically clear by meta

[sullen lodge]

Pretty sure they're the same

[royal wagon]

there is absolutely no ambiguity regarding this fact

i am expecting the quest 3 controllers to perform quite poorly for VR shooters. by removing the tracking rings that featured many LEDs used for tracking, and only retaining a small number on the controller, they have greatly reduced the tracking surface compared to previous VR controllers. this means the existing deadzones that cause problems for Rift S, Quest 1 and Quest 2 users will now be larger, so the problems will be more prevalent

they obviously want you to buy the quest pro controllers if you want to have a high quality tracking experience, since they have internal cameras and processors to do the tracking themselves. the performance of the pro controllers is considerably better than the previous quest controllers, and gets close to the performance of lighthouse based controllers

[sullen lodge]

The rings are quite a huge problem

[royal wagon]

the lack of rings? yes

[sullen lodge]

If they break in any way you have to buy a new controller and the rings are pretty flimsy

[royal wagon]

i expect quest 3 controllers to be nearly unusable with stocks that mount underneath stocks, as the bar will be covering a very large portion of the very limited tracking LEDs

well yes, quest stuff is a bit flimsy, you get what you pay for

[sullen lodge]

And the quest 2 itself is actually shit

[royal wagon]

yep, meta hasnt made any VR equipment I am remotely interested in purchasing in quite some time

[lethal sinew]

Q3 controllers = IR Lights
QPro Controllers = Inside out Camera tracking (no IR lights) + Own CPU inside to process tracking

Verrrrry different. lol

I'm gonna hold out and wait to see about USER performance reviews (before I pull the trigger). Supposedly they mixed some software training into the headset to process blindspots with the new Q3 controllers, but yeah... i'm thinking it's gonna suck for shooters

[sullen lodge]

I ment like the model of it not the actual tech in it

[royal wagon]

thats not what you said

[sullen lodge]

I never said anything about the tech nor model

[royal wagon]

you should maybe go back and read what you said

[sullen lodge]

.

Then we went into the tech about it

So I decided I have nothing better to do

And decided to talk about the tech in it

[pastel pine]

Yo does a gun stock improve gameplay and accuracy?

[royal wagon]

read the next thing you said when you were answered

[sullen lodge]

Use your context clues bro

[wild ruin]

Looking at a picture and assessing "they are the same shape" is one thing, basing the assessment off of a picture and selling products that require exact measurements and extensive in game testing to ensure quality is something else entirely.

Once ProTubeVR has hands on we can learn everything we need to know. Which is why our products aren't available at hmd launch, and why none of our products in the past have ever been either.

(I know the discussion wasn't directed at ProTubeVR but wanted to explain stuff regardless)

[remote tiger]

This is very true^

[lament flame]

i plan on getting the quest pro controllers with the quest 3 for this reason unless i hit the lotto and get the beyond setup with controls and stations

[pure plover]

B

[sturdy wraith]

matirials needed to make gunstock:

Cardboard (5 ft, if you need it)

Painters tape (use as much as needed

bamboo stick, prefreably hollow.