🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[short cove]

Lmao

[inland plover]

I suck without it

[short cove]

alr gtg

[shell anchor]

I’m gonna steal that hanger idea

[inland plover]

do it now

you wont regret

[thin thistle]

CHeck out the VR-HS gunstock with the SMG attachment. Workd perfect with all guns and im just about to release a video demonstrating it

[inland plover]

two hangers

[normal rain]

i just finished my hanger stock too lmao

ty for the inspiration

its VERY lightweight

made from 2 hangers 2 empty tp rolls and and a tiny bit of tape

i am going to reinforce it tho

its kinda flimsy

[smoky tusk]

If you’re on index a swiffer mop thing, a little Velcro and 2 hair ties make a pretty decent stock 😅 it also comes apart in the middle very easily for looting and reloading. Working on getting an actual ar15 buttstock on it.

[pure crown]

L

[wintry hornet]

Womp womp

[heavy remnant]

Tut for a hanger stock rn🔥

[faint wigeon]

@lethal sinew has you covered!

https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[heavy remnant]

thx

[mild quartz]

How

That’s wild

[molten mica]

I think he’s a god

[mild quartz]

Fr

[unreal vale]

gunstock recomendations?

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVdrkvJrJwo

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https://media.giphy.com/media/DcBPjrI6ch5mcbZIAh/giphy.gif

If your looking for something more affordable with non of the added features, @remote tiger has a great, no bullshit stock as well.

[molten mica]

I wouldn’t get it, but I basically traded myself very steady arms and hands

[gaunt swift]

anyone knows a cheap stock for pico ?

[shell anchor]

Watch the diy stock video

[icy cobalt]

@unreal vale @gaunt swift

[silk fulcrum]

It do be like that

[molten mica]

💀

[molten mica]

Dm me that picture

Pls

[normal vigil]

Made a poor man’s gunstock out of a cane a water bottle and some tape

[hallow turtle]

@icy cobalt you have your link prepared at all times huh

[iron pike]

How long should the distance between the stock and first grip be and the same for inbetween the grips

@delicate shale what is it on the magnistock

[royal wagon]

the distance from the butt to your firing hands position is called length of pull, you should look into how rifles are sized to help you figure out how to size your own, i have an old vid on classic protube for this as well

[delicate shale]

I put my rear grip all the way forward to the center mount and the front one I adjust back and forth

[iron pike]

i ment for the tubing

iam get this

[icy cobalt]

@iron pike

[iron pike]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1190429185/magni-stock-upgrade-kit?ref=cart

[icy cobalt]

Linked is the calc for ideal length of pull and the front-back controller distance.

[iron pike]

idk what tume lenghts to get for it

[royal wagon]

to optimize your front hand position depends on where you have a joint for the middle, as you'll want to be able to adjust your front hand to fit multiple weapons unless you can calibrate all guns to a specific gunstock config

[delicate shale]

Each tube is about 10 inches long, but didn't you say there was a review that said the upgrade kit doesn't come with magnets anymore?

[iron pike]

i asked the seller

[delicate shale]

If it comes with the magnets still then that's a good deal for sure

[iron pike]

https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-Aluminum-Length-Seamless-Straight/dp/B07YCGSMTQ/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3AOSYOGM00O8I&keywords=16mm%2Bod%2C%2B500mm%2Blength%2C%2B2pcs%2C%2BAluminum&qid=1693872629&sprefix=16mm%2Bod%2C%2B500mm%2Blength%2C%2B2pcs%2C%2Baluminum%2Caps%2C180&sr=8-6&th=1

thinking about using this

how thick dose it need to be

idk if it needs to be that thick tho becaue it will just make it hevier

@delicate shale

[delicate shale]

Pretty sure it's a 16mm od, trying to dig through my amazon purchase list right now and just realized how much crap I buy 😳

[iron pike]

it is

i asked the seller

but is that tubing un necessarily thick

becasue its 6mm thick

just thinking weight wise

[delicate shale]

Oh you mean ID to OD being 6mm on that one, ya that should be fine but you can go thinner if you're worried about weight, im assuming the difference between the carbon fiber ones and those stainless ones are only a few pounds

[iron pike]

ots aluminum

[royal wagon]

get carbon fiber tubes, they arent much more and your pieces wont slide around as much on it

[iron pike]

it's

[iron pike]

there over doubble the price

[royal wagon]

and worth it

[iron pike]

how so?

[delicate shale]

I still put a piece of electrical tape on my carbon fiber tubes

[delicate shale]

The mounts can slip a bit so just wrap a piece of tape around the tube and then put the mount on that it's perfectly snug

[iron pike]

yeah,

how thin do you think is too thin duribility wise

[delicate shale]

I'm pretty sure the carbon ones are like 1 or 2mm so you'll be fine

[iron pike]

i might wana cut it down to 3or 4 mm id to od

[delicate shale]

Sure but it's not like you're going to be able to bend the tubes before you snap the plastic mounts so I wouldn't worry to much about durability

[iron pike]

ok

oh wait i just thought will i have to wory about the magnets sticking to the tubes?

nvm aluminum is not magnetic right?

[delicate shale]

Aluminum isn't very magnetic even if it's an alloy with other elements in it and the controller mounts have quite a bit of plastic

[iron pike]

yeah thanks

why is etsy shiping so exspensive

its 45 after shiping for the parts

and another like 14 for the tubes

so its already like 60

and the stcok itself is only liek 65

idk

[icy cobalt]

That style of stock, you're using clamps tightened by wingnuts, and then levering on them dozens of hundreds of times.
Polished aluminum is a little too slick.

[iron pike]

electrial tape

[icy cobalt]

Electrical tape under the connection points = increase in OD, and will strip over time. You can make it work, sure, but it's going to be a hassle.

Sounds like you're set on doing it, so do it. We're just telling you roadblocks we've run into.

[iron pike]

tis just alot cheeper

should i use plastic?

[icy cobalt]

It's 15-20$ for carbon.
Your aluminum link is 14$.
Your other alternative would be delrin or a similar high density plastic, around 7-8 $.

[iron pike]

where are you finding the carbon fiber for that price

also i swiched to a smaller id to od diamater on the aluminum and its only 9.99

[icy cobalt]

https://www.amazon.com/Carbon-Thickness-16mmx12mmx420mm-Wrapped-Surface/dp/B08N3Y1776/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=2SKO8Z5KHBBTV&keywords=16mm+carbon+tubing&qid=1693877332&sprefix=%2Caps%2C207&sr=8-3

Not exactly an exhaustive search, I'm busy with other things. Also, peacing out for awhile

[iron pike]

ok will consider

[brisk hollow]

Anyone know a good tutorial on YouTube for Gun stock calibration on Tabor? Or could anyone explain it to me.

[royal wagon]

Check the pin in this channel

[brisk hollow]

Does the bowk marksman stock have to be assembled?

@icy cobalt

[royal wagon]

not sure why you replied to me, i dont have one

[brisk hollow]

Mb idk why I thought you was light wolf

You fast asl with the reply tho

[icy cobalt]

It comes in 2 pieces to make the box smaller. You have to turn one Allen key and you're done

[brisk hollow]

Oh okay thanks just got it here delivered gonna put it to work. Ilyk how it goes when I get a raid in

[potent hound]

Titan sub lore

[brisk hollow]

I have a question on where you attached your front point sling on your gunstock

@icy cobalt

[brisk hollow]

Did they remove physical gunstock calibration? I don’t see it in the settings for tabor

[royal wagon]

safe house only

[brisk hollow]

No wonder thanks

@royal wagon you know why when I calibrated my gunstock and shoot something with my red dot the bullet lands slight lower then where my reticle is?

[royal wagon]

you are shooting something closer than the zeroing distance

all sights are zero'd to 50m

[brisk hollow]

Okay thanks so at range this wouldn’t be a problem

[royal wagon]

50/200 yard zero's are for 5.56 due to their velocity and ballistic properties

7.62x39 or 7.62x51 will be a little sooner as they have a lower velocity and higher weight

[zinc narwhal]

So on far range i need to aim to the lower part of the torso???

[brisk hollow]

Makes sense didn’t know tabor had gun physics like that implemented into the game. That’s great info thanks rage.

[royal wagon]

how far

[zinc narwhal]

100meters for example

[zinc narwhal]

.

[royal wagon]

without a shooting range with detailed range marks its difficult to determine the max height over POA you might see at that kind of range

this is what its like in real life, and this feels fairly accurate to GOT

it may be even flatter than that. the picture was made with a particular scope that had a particular height over bore

[zinc narwhal]

What means the right top corner picture?

[royal wagon]

your general point of aim to hit center

the main image is the point of impact if your point of aim is the center

[zinc narwhal]

Ah okay

[royal wagon]

most of your engagements in GOT are going to be sub 200m, so you have a fairly narrow band of POI to POA to worry about

rendering stops around 300m

[brisk hollow]

I also had a question on why my front sight post on my AK is too high after I calibrated it.

[royal wagon]

physically lower your front hand or raise your calibration

[icy cobalt]

There's a principle called maximum point blank range. the 50/200 keeps you within 3 inches out to ~225. Effectively a non issue. MPBR is a calc for every weapons system. The AK has a different one.

[zinc narwhal]

I love the matric system so i don't know what u talking abt.

[royal wagon]

you dont know how to convert inches to centimeters?

[brisk hollow]

I got the AK sights perfect but the SKS is now too high. If I change it will just be vice versa. Is there a fix for this?

[royal wagon]

no, you cannot do per gun calibration, only per class, you still have to deal with the different gun geometry the different guns will have within that class

so you'll want to adjust your gunstocks front hand position to accomodate both

[brisk hollow]

Would I do that by lowering my front arm physically?

[royal wagon]

yep

same as without gunstock calibration

lower the gunstock front position

[brisk hollow]

Okay got it

[icy cobalt]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AgitatedBreakablePeanutKAPOW-eu3OZz1FC4Lkv6nj
~60 meter distance, you still need to lead your target significantly.

[delicate shale]

ya bullet velocity is all screwed up on this game, hopefully they fix it at some point, even out to 200m+ the rounds should hit spot on to where you aim even with a target moving laterally. 2-3000fps on a 5.56 means it should slap instantly out to max render distance

[royal wagon]

3000fps is 1000m/s so 200m is ~1/4 a second which is accurate

[delicate shale]

nah some of the leads you have to take are huge, .25 seconds is almost imperceptible to the human eye so those leads are more like 600-1000m+

[royal wagon]

proximity, speed and apparant gap are proportional, you have to take into account the time it takes for you to pull the trigger

[icy cobalt]

dude sprinting at 20 mph, 1/8 of a second of lead required at 100 meters, lead distance of about 3 2/3 ft

[royal wagon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/SmallDirtyDragonfruitPJSalt-7b9BdYmhDJNXHCmb

thats about 190m

.25s is also quite slow

most people can count to 6 in a second

[delicate shale]

even with the elevation thats more like 100m, the strip of concrete below you is like 10-15m long, each brick is about 1-1.5ft

[royal wagon]

no, that spot isnt accessible anymore, but i used to make shots like that all the time, and ive had multiple people tell me between 190 and 200m

at 100m the target would be significantly larger

[delicate shale]

go run it, its like 15m

[royal wagon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentHyperTubersCmonBruh-jPgWeg_yMMhzuTD_

thats post distance additions, and it was 100m

[icy cobalt]

I counted 3 bullets. But those targets aren't running and therefore aren't part of this discussion.

Point is, you do need to lead with bullets, more than you think, even in real life

[royal wagon]

true, thats not a "double" headshot, but its two snap headshots, which sounds double-ish

[delicate shale]

each one of those benches is like 1-1.5m so its not as long as you think

[royal wagon]

https://clips.twitch.tv/KindGleamingPiePanicBasket-EYIAgdUAk_Dsc53k

thats 2 headshots with 1 bullet

[royal wagon]

um, we have distances now, so the last two clips i have what the game tell us

[delicate shale]

which i why i said the ranging i strange on this game

[royal wagon]

but theres only so close you can get on the old overlook spot, but i killed plenty of people there who would tell me the repoted distance

[icy cobalt]

At some point I still need someone to do math with me and figure out how long a meter in game is

[royal wagon]

potentially, it does feel a little different from unity, but we cant really change that

[delicate shale]

i used to shoot PRS so its definitely a bit off

[royal wagon]

the fog also really fucks with your perception, i used to play plenty bigger games that rendered all the way out, and 500 and 600 meter kills were not uncommon for me

[icy cobalt]

We have a reasonably good meter stick in the M16a2, so with a little bit of work two people should be able to measure out something like, say 15 meters and figure it

[delicate shale]

the whole labs building is more like 100m or less

[royal wagon]

im pretty sure it will add up, unreal is in charge of how long the gun is in as well as how long it reports the distances as being

yeah, 100m sounds right

[icy cobalt]

Why guess, when we can do the science

[delicate shale]

ima have to do some testing now haha

[royal wagon]

those two kills i got that reported like 101m were from about the end of the stairs in front of the labs to the people standing at the back

[delicate shale]

luckily we have those bricks to measure with

[icy cobalt]

An M16 is more or less exactly 1 meter in real life meters. Measure with two of them out a distance, shoot your helper, see if it matches

[royal wagon]

true, but the m16 isnt necessarily 1 meter in game, it could be sized inaccurately on purpose for specific reasons

[delicate shale]

gonna go drop an m16 on the ground over and over lol

i wanna know!

[royal wagon]

with possibly invalid values of known sized objects you would need quite a few to get an estimate closer to what the game considers to be 1 unit of distance

the map could be accurate but the objects might not be

unreal and unity both deal with map distances in meters

[delicate shale]

exactly why testing needs to be done on ranging

[royal wagon]

so its more likely for the objects to be inaccurate than the map

[icy cobalt]

Why would the change the scale on the thing? The lop and sizing visually feel right, and we're using a thing in the circumstances it was designed for.

[royal wagon]

im speculating, but also pointing out that "true" size is difficult in a video game, especially when the engine already explicitly defines things in meters

[delicate shale]

very true but to me it feels off a bit, its most likely perspective though

[royal wagon]

and so the chances of the range reported for kills being inaccurate is exceedingly low, and other values are are much more likely to be inaccurate

everything is relative to the source of reference

so the real question is, is the map and objects scaled appropriately to make the distances reported feel accurate

you could make the map larger or smaller and it would feel different, despite the distance referenced being the same

[icy cobalt]

Used to play planetside. After allot of math, the outfit I was with found that unless the soldiers were three feet tall, 1 auraxian meter = 0.5 earth meters.
It's pretty common for a meter in a game engine to just be a convenient number for the game engine to crunch

[delicate shale]

we need a ruler in game lol

gonna use my forearm for now to measure 1 ft

if we knew the shoe size of the operator that would make a bit easier haha

[royal wagon]

I believe the player model is normalized to 2 meters

Should be the height of 2 m16s

Compare that with a 2m defined height and check perception

There, you can validate the ruler that way

Bring in a bunch of m16s with a friend

[oblique narwhal]

Any good stocks for a fair price

n by fair i dont mean a cheap stick lol

[remote tiger]

@oblique narwhal i sell one a good one for quest 2 for 34.96
@faint wigeon sells a really good one for 75$ USA only

ahh if ur willing to pay a little more def go with the Freedomstock made by @faint wigeon im sure he will link some info here in a few min

[remote tiger]

here u go

[oblique narwhal]

I'll most likely wait until the Quest 3 comes out

So all the accessories come out and see if anyone makes conversion kits for it

[remote tiger]

gotcha are the handles different sizes?

[oblique narwhal]

They dont got halo rings n more slim

[remote tiger]

gotcha

[oblique narwhal]

Whats your link? @remote tiger

[remote tiger]

ill send some info to ur dm

@oblique narwhal sent

[oak verge]

Anyone know if i can fit https://www.olenvr.com/vr-gun-stock-accessories/lopro-vr-gun-stock-for-valve-index this gunstock with this https://www.protubevr.com/en/product/20-540-forcetube-module.html#/38-ftb_mod_0_strength_category-explorer_5_joules_max/39-ftb_mod_1_color-carbon

[iron pike]

@delicate shale what do you think of the modus v2

[delicate shale]

For most part it's just a gimmick, I'd rather have strong magnets that click in place easy over a stock that's easy to drop

[iron pike]

Doesn’t it stay in place better because when you pull back your pulling on the plastic not pulling the magnets off

[royal wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[icy cobalt]

Just looking at the design, no. Also reviews for that thing are extremely spotty.

[oak verge]

Aight bet thank u

Might just go with the Protube then

[icy cobalt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui2DTu7wA5g

if you're dead set on getting the haptic, that is by far the easiest solution. Any other there will be some cludging

[oak verge]

Yeah i see that now

Its just i use the bottom for chargin (magnetic charge base) https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT82P8gr3/ so im looking for an inverted setup

[icy cobalt]

Best I got for you is still the bowk invert marksman, but you would absolutely still have to do some figuring to get the haptic thing attached.

[oak verge]

Yeah he is working on a modification for me rn its just that he is busy and i wanna use something while im waiting for that

Ive printed all of the parts and bought the tubes already

Maybe ill duct tape it

[slim jetty]

Hi guys

I’m looking for a gun stock

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

I think that makes 108? I'm losing count.

[slim jetty]

wym?

[icy cobalt]

Click the link to the copy pasta for "whats a good stock"

[pure crown]

What’s the cheapest gunstock I can buy

For quest btw

[faint wigeon]

@remote tiger has the most affordable stock on the market

[still beacon]

imma be honest i use the Protube, it is i think the best on the market rn.

[somber swift]

On quest how do I calibrate my gunstock?

[still beacon]

it depends on wich game, i calibrete the gunstock not the gun ingame. its easier that way

[normal grove]

def the way to go

protube + physical calibration

[somber swift]

Does ghosts of tabor have a gun calibration for the gunstock? Because when I adjust my protube gunstock it only works with certain weapons and not with a lot of them

[normal grove]

ragesaq made a video on how to calibrate with protube

[somber swift]

Ok thank you I’ll check it out

[normal grove]

Needs to be pinned tbh

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[remote tiger]

Thanks cheezy! @pure crown I’ll send you a dm!

[slender lava]

Anybody try the Olen Lopro yet? Just bought it hoping I didnt waste money

[normal grove]

doesnt seem adjustable

[icy cobalt]

Spotty reviews here.
I think buying a thing then coming here afterwards is a bit backwards.

[trail bramble]

I have the lopro, it's average, it's well made and looks cool, but has some functional flaws, I've made a few modifications to mine to better suit me, the magnets are really strong which is a plus but it's a little heavy, it works good for ghosts of tabor if you spend some time tweaking the gun stock calibration, doesn't work for Pavlov at all, but works great for contractors, if I had to choose over I probably wouldn't choose it. But then again, I would probably find flaws in any gun stock on the market

[harsh pebble]

Does anyone know if the spine gun stock is any good I don’t know anything about stocks its made by olenvr

[stuck wren]

What does the stock look like?

[remote tiger]

@stuck wren ill send you a dm with details 🙂

sent

[kind egret]

Toxic is some hustler I swear 😂 but his produc is good icl

[remote tiger]

lollll ty ty
life is expensive gotta make some cash somehow.

[kind egret]

Exactly

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Generally I think we all advise caution on any olen products here

[autumn salmon]

What is a good gunstock

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message
Click this link for the pasta

I'm just going to call it 110

[remote tiger]

@autumn salmon I sell one for quest 2 for 34.96 I’ll send u some info to ur dm

[copper slate]

anyone wanna run some day map w/ me i have purp card

[autumn salmon]

I can

[somber swift]

I need some help with the gun calibration in game

[royal wagon]

check the pin in this channel

[somber swift]

How do I do that?

When I do the calibration I can’t grab the gun so I can’t properly calibrate it. And when I stop calibration I can’t grab anything

[royal wagon]

the guide that is pinned covers all of your questions

[sweet mantle]

I'm gonna get an olenvr stock. My buddy just grabbed one and said the class based calibration hasn't been working out as well as he would've liked with different guns

Will we ever get calibration per gun?

[royal wagon]

probably

we just dont have it yet

thats why i recommend people stick with adjustable gunstocks

[sullen lodge]

@remote tiger what's the current gunstock look like?

[remote tiger]

ill send you some pics to ur dm 🙂

[sullen lodge]

Alr thanks

[icy cobalt]

We really, really recommend caution with olen designs. Frankly for the cost you can do way better, and most of the users who come back here speak of mediocrity and dissapointment.

[sweet mantle]

Heard!! Well.. any recommendations?

[remote tiger]

@sweet mantle I sell one for 34.96 I’ll send u some info to ur dm

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 111
Those are the general thoughts and link to the review thread

[last birch]

Toxic_smoke can you send me dm

[idle blade]

yo guys whats a good starter gunstock???

[icy cobalt]

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[idle blade]

im in gunstock chat

[last birch]

@remote tiger can you send me dm for the gunstock

[remote tiger]

for sure!

@idle blade I sell one for quest 2 for 34.96 I’ll send some info to ur dm

[ember lintel]

I am get one from @remote tiger and the Specs look good so you can get him to send you the info

[agile nimbus]

Lol

[old crown]

I've been looking to purchase a VR gunstock for a while now, (keyword purchase, as I do not want to make one myself) Do any of you have any suggestions for under or around 50-60 USD?

[halcyon mica]

What the hell is that thing? 😀

[faint wigeon]

I have one for $75 (w/Free Shipping) at https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

Also @remote tiger has a great, no bullshit stock he sells for $34.96

[agile nimbus]

@halcyon mica Its what i used to knock you and ur team off wit in the last raid

[old crown]

a lil self advertising, huh? I'll take a look

[agile nimbus]

Lmfao

[old crown]

Seems a little bit sketchy, and for 70$?
It appears that the material used to make it is around 10-20$, but I'll consider your offer.

could you please send me a link to your friends store?

nevermind, I found it.

[faint wigeon]

Im also on Etsy with user reviews if thats more legit for you?: https://www.etsy.com/listing/1468612811/freedomstock-vr-v3-quest-2-vr-gunstocklick_sum=6b0744be&ref=shop_home_feat_1&frs=1

[old crown]

Oh that's actually perfect
The etsy link adds a bit of authenticity to it as you have to get verified and such, and plus I prefer etsy over a weird looking website.

[agile nimbus]

@faint wigeon how is it $15 off when youre sold out

Why even advertise

[old crown]

I'm going to look into both of your etsy pages- thanks for the recommendations, as these do seem to be actually decent products, however keep in mind 70$ is quite alot for some plastic and small metal bolts

[faint wigeon]

Well obviously I need to add more stock since ive been selling out, its hard to keep up with lol

[fleet birch]

How do you make yours? The last stock I got was 3d printed and the screws didn’t match the holes and claimed the holders were magnetic but very cheaply molded plastic

[old crown]

also, I would like to mention that I am left handed... Will this be an issue?

[old crown]

As the bottom part of the controllers are completely seperately shaped, so I may be forced into using the gunstock with just my right hand, and I am absolutely incapable of this

[faint wigeon]

Its not just some plastic and small metal bolts, there's alot involved in the stocks construction, magnets, springs, integrated knuckle straps.

And no of course left handed is supported.

[old crown]

I have made things similar, and typically even if there's magnets, the price would not surface above 30$ for production parts, are you using some sort of weights inside of the design, and are you 3d printing it?

how much can the freedomstock extend?

[faint wigeon]

Like I said, there is more to the construction than just some 3D printed parts and magnets, also each order comes with free priority USPS shipping, which means once its printed and at the post office, it'll be at your door in 2-3 business days.

The stock also has labor involved in production, my stock isn't just some simple cookie cutter design like most others on the market that can go from printer > shipping box. There's prep work involved, the stock also shows up out of the box ready to go, just need to screw in a single screw and your rocking and rolling.

But if your looking for something more affordable then @remote tiger definitely has you covered!

[old crown]

How is left handed supported?

I'm assuming I'd be able to remove the orange controller holster, right?

[faint wigeon]

Im not sure I understand that question about the holster?

During checkout you'll pick which hand you pull the trigger with, and I simply install the correct dominate hand before shipping.

[old crown]

oh ok

how long should I expect to wait from the moment I order it, to the moment it arrives on my doorstep?

also both of your gunstocks are intended for quest, right?

[remote tiger]

are you refering to me and cheezy?

@old crown

[old crown]

Yes, I sent cheezy a message, I'll paste it again here

Hiya, I have a few specific questions about your gunstock before I consider ordering anything-

1. What is the maximum length of the gunstock (from hand to hand)
2. How durable is it? Could it survive a drop on the floor, accidental VR mishaps like accidentally colliding with a wall or furniture
3. Can I adjust the length of the Gunstock ( I think you can from images on the Etsy page, but I just want to double check)
4. Will this be compatible with the Quest Pro?
5. Is the butt of the stock comfortable?
6. How long should I expect it to arrive from the moment it is ordered, to the moment it arrives on my doorstep?

[remote tiger]

ill message you seperately

[old crown]

alright- thank you

[unique rose]

Opinion on marksman bowl signature edition?

bowk

[remote tiger]

@icy cobalt ^

[sudden escarp]

anyone know a good gun stock that’s affordable and won’t cost an arm and a leg

[icy cobalt]

The signature series is, at core, a refinement of what bowk wanted for himself.
What he wanted was something lightweight, durable, and stiff. He wanted it to work for the meta weapons in onward (before gunstock calibration existed). He wanted it to be fast, since his thing was and is being the fastest, most accurate grenade in the West.
He wanted it to have no snag points, to hang nicely in whatever position, since Onward doesn't have a 'click for crouched' and low positions are part of the game.

Everything else was secondary.

For most general use, and for other games, I'd recommend the marksman upgrade

[quartz crest]

Cheesy, how long does processing usually take

[quartz crest]

@faint wigeon

[faint wigeon]

I see you're actually currently #1 in the queue and your stocks on the printer! Once it's been shipped you'll get an email with tracking infor (and I also try to personally send a DM when possible as well).

[quartz crest]

Awesome thanks dude, I need all the help I can get apparently in this game

[thin thistle]

Works perfect with all guns thanks to the new SMG attachment. Video coming soon !!!!!

[fading star]

Hey, I'm away from home for a while, but I'm wondering. Is the calibration for the stocks fixed yet?

[thin thistle]

Working perfect for me

PCVR with Pico 4

[pure crown]

How much?

Does it cost

[thin thistle]

you can get it and check price at exact3d.co.uk

also available for other VR headset controllers

[pure crown]

can someone send the best gunstock for less than 50 dollard pls for beginner

[remote tiger]

I gotchu homie @pure crown check ur dm

[pure crown]

Still want to buy one but in a good price in France pls help

[normal grove]

the index seems to be at a crazy angle to hold grip for a prolong period of time

[ebon bone]

Are gunstocks worth it?

[pure crown]

Yes

can someone send the best gunstock for less than 50 dollard pls for beginner

[swift goblet]

@remote tiger if u dm him he will give you details he's very helpful and I will have his gunstock soon.

Sorry for the ping toxic

[remote tiger]

No hank you space 🙂

No worries at all

[pure crown]

Already dm him and im in France so i have to pay double of the price cause of the shiping cost so i need another option

[swift goblet]

Oh damn that sucks freedom stock is a good option

But over 50

[pure crown]

Where can i buy it

[swift goblet]

Like 90 bucks

Cheesy will tell u

[faint wigeon]

Yeah International shipping is absolutely brutal for small businesses. Its one of the reasons why I don't offer international shipping at the moment either I'm afraid.

I only ship to the US at the moment.

[swift goblet]

Nvm then the I stock might work for u

If they ship internationally

[pure crown]

If you sell it on Amazon it should resolve every probleme no ?

The name is the i stock ?@swift goblet

[swift goblet]

Yes

[pure crown]

and it's a good stock ? cause i've seen nobody play with it cause it don't take the 2 controller in one

[swift goblet]

I've never used it I've just heard it's good, me personally I don't think it's as good, mainly because there's a string for the second half

[pure crown]

yes i think it's the main probleme but for shotgun it should be amazing

[wary heron]

does the physical stock calibration work yet? ive been waiting so long lol.

damn near useless without it.

[royal wagon]

its always worked, you just need to know how to use it

check the pin in this channel

the procedure will get you through some of the bugs related to offsets resetting / not loading and help you understand what the calibration can do

[wary heron]

i did read it and was confused.... it sounds like a design flaw in the way it tricks you.

[flat inlet]

I want to get a gun stock I don't know where to start looking though

[royal wagon]

its not very confusing, it breaks it down step by step, super easy to follow

[wary heron]

i used the same weapons, but in physical mode after calibration, using an ak, which is the weapon used to calibrate for rifles i believe, it simply wasnt correct

[royal wagon]

@flat inlet make sure you get an adjustable gunstock, i recommend the magtube, best in the business imo

[wary heron]

i have mine hardlined for a handful of games

[royal wagon]

as mentioned in the pin (which you should read again) ignore the model given to you as if its the actual gun you are calibrating, its a visual guide to show you the direction of adjustment input you are making

[flat inlet]

Are you able to dm me the link to it

[wary heron]

im rough on it when i play comp stuff

[pure crown]

134 dollars magtube wtf

[royal wagon]

https://www.protubevr.com/en/product/169-magtube-gunstock.html

[wary heron]

already broken a magtube cup lol

[royal wagon]

a cup? are you throwing it across the room?

[wary heron]

it snapped when i slammed it back on the magnet after reloading lol

[royal wagon]

ive got over 6000 hours on protube gear

[wary heron]

under a second

fighting three guys then flopped on the last kill when the cup cracked lol

reloading in the middle of a fight

clone wars battlefront in contractors

[royal wagon]

that must have been a defective print

has your replacement had the same issue?

[wary heron]

probably, it was rigid and bubbles were present

not a clean break

[royal wagon]

yeah, that sounds like it. the protube prints i have are very robust, i dont baby it at all, its not even on my mind to worry about structural integrity

[wary heron]

they got it to me from france in 5 days

[royal wagon]

and most of it is injection molded

the high stress parts

[wary heron]

free of charge, and thats FROM the point i sent it, which was the night i broke it.

[royal wagon]

they have great customer service

[wary heron]

yea

[pure crown]

130 dollars wtf is the price of this lmao the guy who setup the price are crazy

[royal wagon]

thats why its been so easy for me to support them for so long, great product and great service

its not a lot of money, its worth the cost

you can replace the cups and get it up and running for a new controller very quickly

[pure crown]

at this price you can buy a 3 machine and do it yourself lmao

[royal wagon]

and you'll end up with a piece of junk for many many many iterations

[pure crown]

still don't worth 130 dollars

[royal wagon]

thats because you dont have any experience with quality gunstocks 🙂

[pure crown]

it's not the probleme 2 aluminium tube with plastic shit on it don't worth 130 dollars max 70

[wary heron]

i had a protube back in the starting days, right when the cv1 came out, had a dk2 as well. not sure if i got the gunstock then or when i got the cv1. bourin was very active back then. its good to see they didnt change their ways. best customer service and listening to the community ive seen since fallen earth before gamers first or little orbit. old mmo i played as a kid, the owner and devs loved to play with the community and have q and r's just for fun ingame.

gamersfirst killed it. destroyed the team and the muse of it. it was a vibe.

[royal wagon]

yep, thats when i got into it, ive had my protube for almost 7 years now

the magnet addition was a very well designed upgrade, bourin is an engineer and he doesnt halfass anything

[undone bolt]

Anyone use this brace yet? I’ve got it assembled today and It’s feeling really solid, let’s me loot no problems, and no magnets or anything to worry about I just use the front end grip option and when you grip there it presses the grip button and grabs the gun in game. Feels really intuitive. Super adjustable as well, 3 sizes, and a ton of adjustable points. I am not affiliated at all just really digging the product. “Ultibrace” on etsy

[wary heron]

protube? i found it unusable, magtube? amazing

finally a use for it

[pure crown]

and someone know what gunstock i can buy for 60 dollars max in eu for beginner ?

[undone bolt]

I don’t have a ton of experience with other stocks but the one I just posted is base $40 us

[wary heron]

irony, using one, and being used to it.... i found im far far better at vr shooters than desktop. then again even with shaky hands i can shoot, its just i suck with pistols.

[pure crown]

yes but i will have 40 dollars of shipping cost

[wary heron]

wouldnt call a 1911 .45 all steel even the grips a pistol..... but im not great irl with it lol. its shoulder and leverage. highstrung issues.

heavy as a brick, but a great thing to have in the middle of nowhere for comfort. and also abit of target practice in the field.

love building tech too, i could build my own slimes, but im stuck on hold because my nerves are overkill, my hands shake from adhd lol. hate working on tiny tech, and id solder the entire pcb if i tried to build my own slimes lol.

[pure crown]

who asked it's the gunstock chat bro

[wary heron]

well i was getting to the relation, but ill hold off now.

[pure crown]

just ask for a gunstock for beginner

[flat inlet]

@royal wagon thanks

[wary heron]

you didnt read before did you, this isnt a chat about asking about gunstocks for begginers, its about gunstocks in general.

[pure crown]

ok so i ask for a gunstock for beginner not a 130 dolalrs gunstock so if you can't answer don't answer

[wary heron]

also why not. if you can calibrate a pistol, ive done it in another game, you can use a gunstock to stabalize even the worst coordination with one. cause like me, some people cant shoot a pistol off the hip for jack.

i didnt see what you said, i was talking to someone else btw

begginer gunstock tho? theres no good answer. its like asking for a begginer headset, your first experience probably wont be great, and it might shy you away. so if thats ok i can find something around 75 dollars, under that and youre asking for true garbo, no offense to anyone who has one and enjoys it.

[pure crown]

yes i can put 75 dolars in it but you understand that 130 dollars for 2 piece of metal is too expensive for a first one

[flat inlet]

I don't see it too expensive for first gun stock

And you want good quality too

[pure crown]

so for a good one it's 200 dollars for you ?

a beginner wan't not so expensive but not good quality it's just a first taste of it yk

130 dollars it's of course expensive

[wary heron]

you say 2 pieces of metal, but if its that simple why not build and print the parts yourself?

theres blueprints

[pure crown]

beacause i have not a 3d printer otherwise i will do it lmaoo

be smart a single second pls

[wary heron]

if youd spent 75, the magtube is worth every penny. get the diy.

build it after you recieve it in a small box

[pure crown]

This really worth 70 dollars for you ?

[wary heron]

the shoulder stabalization is worth the extra

[pure crown]

One pièce of métal and 50 cent of 3D printed thing on it

[wary heron]

also thats not worth much considering its not a fullstock, not everyone wants one. but trust me in a game like contractors or pavlov, or even tabor if you follow their advice, its great.

highly overpriced

[pure crown]

Every good gunstock i see on sell is overpriced for me

[wary heron]

also go to the protube site, you can pick and choose.

[pure crown]

Considering its almost 80% of 3D printed pièce

[wary heron]

do NOT get their sling, although you do need a 2 pointer. go to walmart, get a nice one that stretches, and also some aligator clips.

[pure crown]

Yes but i dont want to spend 130$ on it i want something a bit cheaper

[wary heron]

itll burn your neck with almost any gunstock sling

save up, its worth it.

and once you get used to it the cheap ones definately wont hold up well to abuse, as youre blind to it.

great and all, but in a tight situation where you forget its plastic on sheetmetal bars, instead of steel.... something will break.

[pure crown]

Ithink i Will just buy the cup and stock and make it myself

Yes but i dont want something that Will Last 1 year i just want a gunstock to test if its really What i want to play with

[wary heron]

that works too. do everything you can, but cheaper stocks wont hold up in a tight situation without steel. i cant find any that dont use square bars made of sheetmetal that would work well. hell you can really use anything, to give it a shot before i got my protube i took a piece of wood and toilet paper rolls and duct tape with another small square of wood on my cv1.

[pure crown]

This one seem good too no ?

Or the Freedom stock seam good too

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/#!/~/cart

[royal wagon]

the freedomstock creator is here and hes a cool dude, but my honest critque on why i wouldnt buy a product like that is it has limited adjustments (no height adjustment between controllers) and it doesn't have a proper butt that has a cheek rest. some people done want that and those critques dont matter, but for me it needs to be fully adjustable and be able to get a cheek weld

[dreamy wraith]

Anyone have a good gun stock?

[wheat flame]

I do

[dreamy wraith]

What is it?

I’m generally trying to keep it under 40 bucks

[ebon bone]

Thats sick

[icy cobalt]

At that price range, basically your only option is DIY. For 50 and some hours of work, you can get something really nice.
Send me a message if that's the way you want to go.

[icy cobalt]

We absolutely do not recommend the istock here. Talk to @obtuse idol about it.

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 113. Click the link and read the pasta

[icy cobalt]

See the above post

[dreamy wraith]

Can anyone help me find a good gun stock for me?

Speed of engagement needs to be high, I need to be able to use it with my left eye, I am right handed though.

[icy cobalt]

What technique do you use? Do you left hand it and use it as normal? Head turn? Rollover?

[dreamy wraith]

@icy cobalt can you help? Sorry it lagged so it sent late

[icy cobalt]

Going to do my best for you. But I need to know what you do for your cross eye dominance

[dreamy wraith]

Honestly I don’t know immediately of hand, give me a moment

With real rifles I just use my left hand, but on vr I just move my right hand to my left eye,

I’m not exactly sure what rollover means in the context

[icy cobalt]

got it. So that pretty much precludes a cheek weld, are you ok with that?

[dreamy wraith]

but yeah…

yeah.

[icy cobalt]

You roll your entire head over the stock, with a much, much lower comb, so you're kinda looking down the gun sideways. It's weird, but I've run into it.

[icy cobalt]

You in the US?

[dreamy wraith]

Yes.

with real rifles I just use my left hand

[icy cobalt]

Index or oculus?

[dreamy wraith]

Oculus

[icy cobalt]

Ok, your options with those preferences are as follows. @faint wigeon makes a stock that you just don't disengage from the controllers. It's a magnetic break in between the controllers, but you just live with the stock on all the time. As far as ease and speed of use goes, that'll do for you.
For a more traditional style, you've got @remote tiger on the low end of the market, and a bowk signature on the high end

[dreamy wraith]

cool, I’ll check them out.

[remote tiger]

Hey @dreamy wraith what’s ur price point ur looking for

[dreamy wraith]

50-100, dollars

[remote tiger]

Gotcha. I sell one for 34.96 it’s more designed for people on a budget but still a full stock. Lmk if u want me to send some info over to ur dm. If looking for something that is in ur range defff check out the freedomstock by @faint wigeon

[hallow flare]

Are gunstocks even worth the 70-100 dollar mark of a decent one?

[solar heron]

fight me

2 coathangers, wooden ruler, cardboard, glue and tape

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-dynamite-slap-fight-suckerpunch-walkaway-gif-8532346

[icy cobalt]

Yes.
You're paying for the R&D, and something you'll care about more, customer service, warranty, and replacements.
IE, If you want to build your own bowk it'll cost you 30 if you already have a printer, 50 if you don't. But at 70 I got the entire stock replaced after I had cosmetic cracking 2 years in.

[solar heron]

mine functions perfect and cost 5 dollah max

coathanger goat

[inland plover]

Gave me 60% more Accuracy and Stability!

[static creek]

@static creek I sell these for $40+ shipping on marketplace

[inland plover]

UPDATE

[dry cliff]

These DIY gunstocks got me Ded

[icy cobalt]

Tell me you've never looked closely at a stock without saying those exact words

[icy cobalt]

Those are straight up Sanlakis.

[icy cobalt]

^

[static creek]

The only thing sanlaki is the magnetic mounts if anything. Otherwise it's a simple design with lightweight materials that are durable. Is sanlaki the only magnetic gunstock. NOPE!! They use iron pipe I don't. Their design is way to complex than it needs to be.

Not to mention how over priced it is

[royal wagon]

this is something that is incredibly easy for a gunstock with a good design, i get asked this a lot on my stream, heres a brief demonstration i did last night, i dont even consider it all that fast
https://clips.twitch.tv/PlainLightPepperoniPrimeMe-4E_ZeWx1cGcimtLg

[distant shoal]

How are you meant to use the RK angled grip with a physical gunstock?

[gray mantle]

I SAW YOUR TIKTOK ON THAT

[solar heron]

oh shiiii its only got like 800 views haha

[royal wagon]

You shouldn’t, the shift grip is better suited. They perform about the same, probably only a 1% stat difference

[naive rivet]

make one at home

[icy cobalt]

Much like you would in real life, by not using it because they make no sense. And if you're forced to use it, it's awkward and you replace it soon as you can.

[quasi hatch]

What’s the most affordable gunstock?

[icy cobalt]

The one you make yourself. Budget, then we talk.

[quasi hatch]

Bruh I literally already have my own I made

[icy cobalt]

Cool, then talk to us about what you're looking for and how we can help you.

[quasi hatch]

^^^

[icy cobalt]

And the answer still hasn't changed. The one you make yourself. You need to set out a budget before we can set out options.

@remote tiger makes one for ~35$, but we kinda need more than 'what cheap'

[quasi hatch]

Bro it’s a simple question you don’t have to be a smartass just tell me what’s the most affordable gunstock or don’t answer my question

[pure crown]

You have some 3D printed plan i just remember i have a cousin who have a 3 d printer

[icy cobalt]

Bowk has one published, and thingverse has many to choose from.

[pure crown]

Ok i Will ask him so thanks

[icy cobalt]

https://www.bowkvr.com/
Anytime. Pop by the reviews thread to get a handle on some of the options you can print.

[icy cobalt]

Dude, I've helped ~115 people in the last month. I've laid out what your options are. DIY or toxic if you're in the US. I'm not being a smartass, I'm trying to help you.
Now answer your budget, DM toxic, or get out, because frankly I don't have the energy to spend on trying to help someone who takes me trying to help them as an insult.

[pure crown]

Im in eu if i have to buy one and not diy it which one should i take

[icy cobalt]

pardon. that message was not addressed to you. I think printing is the best opyion for you in France.

[pure crown]

Oh really nobody sell good gunstock in eu ?

[icy cobalt]

none at your price point that I am aware of

[pure crown]

Yes but i Will be able to spend more if its a good stock

[thin thistle]

Its adjustable and has a more realistic feeling when using guns like AR rifle. There is also an SMG attachment upgrade available to

Also free shipping around the world 🙂

[pure crown]

O just want a good stock but not with 30 € of shiping cost

[icy cobalt]

Unfortunately the options for the EU that I'm aware of are above 100

[pure crown]

Yes show me some and if they are really great i should buy one later

[icy cobalt]

index, was it?

[pure crown]

What is that ?

Oh the headset ? I have meta quest 2

[icy cobalt]

Then read this. #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

I don't have experience with vr hs products. The de facto standard is magtube and bowk marksman. Look through the reviews thread for more

[pure crown]

They are all stock sell in us i have to double thé Price cause of shiping Price

And the bowk is 90 dollars but have no magnétic cup for contrôler

[icy cobalt]

Protube is UK based, Bowk is used by the world #1 onward team for a reason and is NZ based. Having used magnetic and no magnet systems, I prefer no magnet.

Neither are US companies

[pure crown]

No magnet is better ??

[icy cobalt]

I think so, @royal wagon thinks magnet is better. No magnet the only speed limit is you, magnets will always have some kind of a jerk to them, the system can be stiffer, and jolting a controller with magnets can lead to tracking issues. That's not to say the protube isn't good, because it is.

[pure crown]

Yes i see

[icy cobalt]

Regardless, for the budget you have, I have no good options in the EU.

[untold raft]

We have the full Sanlaki range. There should be something to fit your budget (UK based and ship to the EU) https://www.mint3d.design/

[pure crown]

Yes but whats that money un euro ?

94£

[untold raft]

As mentioned we have the full range, the Rifle is the top gunstock. a more budget friendly option could be the Magnetic mini gunstock or the non-magnetic ELITE Pullstock

[pure crown]

This one can be good for tabor no ?

But @untold raft When i Will have to play with a Shotgun i can use thé gunstock with it ?

[icy cobalt]

I'm not going to lie, I have concerns about the lack of adjustability in that stock. I like Sanlaki as a company, but you are already in the price range of magtube and bowk for that.

[pure crown]

Oh yes hes true it’s 110€ for 20 € more i can buy a magtube

If i take this i can be a good gunstock for a bit cheaper than the normal one ?

You have a promocode for pro tube ?

[harsh pebble]

Is the skolvr tomahawk gunstock any good because when i get more money I want to get a better stock

[icy cobalt]

If you want I can ping one of the people who bought one for you to chat with. Upshot is that they're dissatisfied with it. No adjustability, heavy in the hand, and the hand angle makes it impossible to use for many games.

Check out th reviews thread attached to this channel.

I must have missed that while you were, and I quote, "laughing your fucking ass off."

You detach from or engage a stock. Looting you're freehand.

Calm as can be. Maybe you should choose your words better.
See above for your answer. Watch any of my or rage's stream, or cheesy's freedomstock promos for how it works.

[remote tiger]

@quasi hatch hey man I’ll send you what I sell for 34.96

[amber plaza]

Lord I need to start printing gun stocks again lol.

[wild ruin]

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[pure crown]

Parfait merci

[lethal sinew]

I pop in from time to time to see what's happening here. Gunstocks are so nifty of a concept for vr gamers... Nothing like it for flatscreen (unless you count gimmicky gfuel or gunnar glasses).

When lightwolf talks and provides links to the reviews thread, I think people are getting the info they need. Keep talking, hope everyone finds the right instrument to enhance their fun.

[native fable]

@icy cobalt what stock would you recommend? Price isn't an issue

[icy cobalt]

Depends on what controllers you have and what you want from the stock.

Read this guy #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message and talk about what factors you value most

[native fable]

Stability, and a quicker ads

[solar heron]

stopped using my gunstock and instead use an ethernet cord tied into a small loop so much easier to reload and adjust for different length weapons

[icy cobalt]

And what controllers are you using? When you say quicker ADS, do you mean more reliably putting eye to scope, or more quickly engaging your stock from freehand?

[icy cobalt]

Sounds like you had a stock that didn't match what you wanted. What were you using?

[harsh pebble]

Yea please do i bought one from toxic smoke but im still planning on upgrading after i get more spare cash

[icy cobalt]

@lethal sinew This gent has questions for you.

[native fable]

I'm on quest 2. Aiming free hand takes me to long to lign up the sights

[lethal sinew]

My skolvr tomahawk collects dust. There's not enough adjustability in it for Tabor. Heavy on one hand and doesn't have a cheek weld.

Check out the review thread here:
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[lethal sinew]

Before you go all in and buy a stock, try this out at home
https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[harsh pebble]

Yea that convinced me it isn’t worth it

[young steeple]

Don’t know what y’all were on about This is fire

Olen vr spine

[native fable]

🤣

[lethal sinew]

@native fable
You might scoff, but some users are using a variation on my design... Here are some posts ( ):
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[icy cobalt]

For that set of criteria, I'd send you to the bowk marksman as the first choice. Head on over to Bowk VR and take a look.

[icy cobalt]

Any gunstock compared to no gunstock is a massive leap. Still not advising people to get basically any Olen product.

[ebon bone]

So many coathangers....

[split tulip]

what is the best gun stock for the rift s ?

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

So come the 22nd I'm not going to be around anymore. There's got to be a better way to match people with stocks.

[knotty igloo]

Protube or bowk

[stuck oxide]

look at these cup holder losers

[native fable]

Okay

[royal wagon]

+1 for protube

[final atlas]

I got a scar H I got off a guy outside where all the dead bodies are (he killed my friend)

[thin thistle]

The VR-HS has just been redesigned to work will all guns in GOT. Try it out and free delivery world wide

[knotty igloo]

My attempt

Gonna edit it up a bit or try to

[pale rivet]

Really creative

[grim dock]

Any opinions on the istock

[calm vessel]

Buddy the Istock is crap don’t waste your money, Do yourself’s a favour and check out KOBRA VR on YouTube I could rip all these stocks that folk are pushing on ere but they all start crying 😢, MY KOBRA SIDEWINDER PISSES ON EM ALL!! Laterz😃🤙

[remote tiger]

yea this is like the 3rd or 4th person i have heard its terrible

@grim dock what is ur price range

[grim dock]

Like less than $100

Could go higher though

[remote tiger]

gotcha

so i sell a more cost efective solution for 34.96. ill send that info to ur dm.
@faint wigeon sells one for 75 that is really good.

i just sent you a message

[calm vessel]

Don’t do it! do some research buddy KOBRA SIDEWINDER!😂

[normal grove]

The whole point of a stock is to 3 points of contact to create muscle memory

dont know how you can do that with the istock

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-steve-carell-please-leave-get-out-move-gif-3579774

@calm vessel nobody here appreciates your overly aggressive behavior and continued shit talking. You're not being helpful to anyone.

[burnt patrol]

This is my favorite gun

[remote tiger]

Facts

[calm vessel]

Not me pushing crap I’ve no agenda just a little experience with gunstock’s and I just don’t want folk wasting their money on tat. You don’t speak for everyone either so do one cheesy by name cheesy nature and cheesy gunstock, my opinion so get over yourself cheesy boy 😂

[remote tiger]

That’s so funny 😂😂😂

[faint wigeon]

https://media.giphy.com/media/nstGUYA6WnWJa/giphy.gif

[oblique narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-gif-25555371

So many stocks but dont know whats good or not 😖

[remote tiger]

What’s ur price point @oblique narwhal

[oblique narwhal]

30-100 i guess

[calm vessel]

Oi cheese boy I’ll expose ya tat I call a spade a spade and I wouldn’t even give someone yours i’d be doing them a favour, and what big cheese boy 😀

[remote tiger]

Yo simma have u ever used his stock

@oblique narwhal cool so I sell one that’s geared twards more cost effectiveness. I sell mine at 34.96. For 75 cheezy also has a really good stock for tabor. Don’t pay attention to the trolls here it is VERY obvious who they are ^. I’ll send you a dm with some info!

Oh wait we already talked lol

[oblique narwhal]

Yeah lol

Im still weighing the options but im still interested in your product.

[remote tiger]

No worries at all:)

[open tartan]

What is a good gunstock to get for the first time. Cause I've only had tabor for about a month now

I dont mind using my hand but its hard to aim well sometimes

[remote tiger]

What is your price range

[open tartan]

30-100 if possible

[remote tiger]

Gotcha so for that range you have a few options. I personally sell one for 34.96 and is considered to be the go to cost effective solution in thsi chat and people will back me up on that. @faint wigeon has a good stock for tabor for 75$ I’ll send you some info to ur dm:)

[open tartan]

Okay thanks

[calm vessel]

Instead of pushing em on here tell em where there selling them from? What do you think you’ll end up with for that price? You can make your own DIY ones, for quality without mentioning any product you’ll have to spend more coz you’ll get what you pay for. Go on then we spoke who ? What of it show them all 5 maybe 6 posts? I’ve no agenda you have though. Listen at the end of the day I’m no troll for what saying don’t buy you’ll regret it and telling them what I use or have owned, what!?

[remote tiger]

Dude the whole diy argument is so old.

I personally don’t and I would think cheesy has no issues with do it yourself we just offer things that have a more prof feel and immersion that diy

@calm vessel have you ever used his gunstock

If not you have ABSOLUTELY ZEROOOO say if it’s good or bad

That goes for ANYONE for any product

[modest hollow]

I could look like a weirdo with hangers and Pringles cans or a weirdo with a dope designed stock. I'll take the latter 😂

[faint wigeon]

Nope, ive no issue with DIY, ive also been pretty open about the fact that I started out with a DIY PCV gunstock myself back in the day.

But yeah the DIY option is always there if you wanna spend the time, and no shade in going that route if you want.

[remote tiger]

Facts lol. We really don’t care what you get. We care that you do YOUR OWN research and not just listen to pissed off people bc they feel like they need to make their 200+ whatever stock justifiable

Vex that wasn’t directed towards u 😂

[modest hollow]

I know haha.

It's all about your individual wants and needs tbh. I don't think forcing a protube or Mamut on anybody is advisable but if they WANT the look and feel of what they have to offer, go for it. I'm doing just fine right now with my glistco magistock. I'll upgrade eventually but that's just gonna be for the premium feel and design. Functionality wise, this glistco is amazing

[remote tiger]

what a smart man ^

haha

oh lord here we go again

[oblique narwhal]

Im just lazy to do a diy

Plus its good to help small businesses grow n help them recieve feedback on ways to improve their gunstock

[calm vessel]

No I haven’t used his but I’ve been burned before by the equivalent to it. You can buy a Sanlacki lite and just get yourself a longer bar and cut to size.

[remote tiger]

AHHH so there is the issue.
just bc you used a product "equivalent" to it means NOTHING. just bc its similar doesn't mean its at all the same or work the same or is the same quality. you have NO credibility to speak ab this product.

[faint wigeon]

Feedback is an underrated aspect of it, without that it can be difficult to improve a product because you're so used to using it yourself, its hard to find areas of improvement.

But you get that product into other peoples hands and all of a sudden they are noticing things that could be improved or fixed that you never realized.

[calm vessel]

You probably are in business with him so wind your neck in

[remote tiger]

i could take chezys file and make it less infill faster print speed and sell it at a fraction of the cost. it would be abs garbage.

im lit not i have my own company for gunstocks

do your research you look stupid

i just dispize people who dont know what they are talking about trying to shit on peoples gunstocks bc its not the one they purchased

[normal grove]

I think its fine to be critical of other gunstocks

[ebon glacier]

^

[remote tiger]

abs to be critical is necessary. but when you have never even used one and say that its shit is absurd

[lethal sinew]

Not of the basis where they call it a "spade" having never tried the product

[remote tiger]

@lethal sinew exactly

[normal grove]

Maybe, but I don't have to use a gunstock to know the downsides of it

[remote tiger]

to call it outright shit tho?

[normal grove]

Like im not trying to shit on the I-Stock, but it just seems bad

[ebon glacier]

It’s kinda a gimmick

[normal grove]

convice me otherwise sure

[faint wigeon]

Yeah theres having constructive criticism and then there's being aggressive and talking shit for the sake of trying to push their own opinion.

[remote tiger]

with no structural feedback on how to improve.

to just say this is shit and then have no other feedback. ESPICALLY to call it shit bc he used a unrealated product that had some of the same features

[calm vessel]

No I’ve seen it though and you get what you pay for in this case, go on YouTube and look at different ones his and others then decide i’m gonna do a run laterz😀🤙

[remote tiger]

thank the lord

[calm vessel]

Your boring

[remote tiger]

the only thing im trying to promote is to do your own research and not jsut take one pissed off childs opinion

lol that insult was boring

[normal grove]

Yeah but what this guy is doing is trying to piss you off thou

[remote tiger]

oh ik

[ebon glacier]

Then why take the bait

[normal grove]

but being critical of stocks is important so people can make decisions on whats good/bad for their $$$

[remote tiger]

its not being critical if my thing is "its shit"

okay why is it shit. "oh i dont have one"
like okay but who does that help

[normal grove]

well yeah, im not defending him cause hes a troll lol

[remote tiger]

if i sent you my design and you were like i think this could be changed to this i would 100% have no issue with it and i would thank you for it

okay so we are on the same page lol

[normal grove]

right, i think your stock would be worth the 35 if i had a quest

now the i-stock, idk about that bro; feel like i would accidently hang myself with it

[remote tiger]

ty ty. i personally have not heard good things ab the i stock but as always i urge people to do their own reasearch and not take my word for it

also Jink cheezy will back me up on this but recently we have had a LARGE influx in people from gunstock companies using fake accounts and then just absolutely trashing other gunstocks for no reason just like this guy did before

[normal grove]

Interesting

[remote tiger]

it would be funny bc one guy would talk shit for like an hour. then liek 1 min later another would come on on a different name and talk shit. but they would all mysteriously support a single brand. then we would nevber hear from them again

this is why i bothered to put time into my points bc people fall for that all the time

its unprofessional and greedy

[normal grove]

Advertising in a discord chat defintely has its disadvantages, because the last thing said will be the first opinion people will consume

[remote tiger]

You said it
and many of the people here are especially mentally malleable to of no fault of their own

[normal grove]

All you can do is log-on every day and change people's opinions over time

[remote tiger]

i just try to put a stop to the stupidity ASAP

[normal grove]

I can say you convinced me to recommend your stock to questies, so your hard work isnt in vain

[remote tiger]

lol i really app that!

the more people who jsut do some reasearch the better. When companies start realizeing their tatics arent workign maybe they will work on their design instead of marketing

thats my hope at least

[icy cobalt]

Tell us about what you want from the stock. What design priorities are important to you?

[icy cobalt]

see above

[icy cobalt]

Maybe, but it you're going to pop into a channel and give actually balanced advice, you need to listen to the people who've used them and chat about what things are better and worse at.
This kid is the WORST kind of fanboy. He bought a kobra product and he just pops by every month to say that anything else is shit.

[oblique narwhal]

Doesnt block the controllers pathing and make it loose tracking like spinevr, comfortable on the shoulder

[normal grove]

Yeah thats true, don't negotiate with terrorists (or trolls in this case lol)

Hes here to get satisfication from someone's mald

[icy cobalt]

To paraphrase him in a rambling post "I had six gunstocks (won't say what kinds, the one's he's mentioned are old styles or generally recognized as cheap/bad options) and every time I thought I had the only good one, but this time I'm definitely right!"
Proceeds to not even know of the existence of Bowk or protube, and tries to shepherd people into spending 200 on kobra products, because "it's the only stock for serious gaming"

[icy cobalt]

Ok, that's super easy. I'm sorry that you ended up with the spine before.
Let's add some things to it.

Would you say that your highest priority is:
ease and speed of use (I want to loot, then snap into the stock quickly and without having to practice)
cost effectiveness
adaptability (I want to be able to use this in every game, with or without there being gunstock calibration)
Long shots, scope usage, and accuracy

[calm vessel]

I said 5 and tell em which if your gonna pick and poke and have pop, at the end of the day your pushing tat on his behalf, folk check out others on YouTube before committing to buy. What do you think you’ll get for that price today. I don’t see other gunstock makers only yours on here each time I have looked, your prolific in pushing snake oil. Laterz cheesy balls 😃🤙

[faint wigeon]

You might not realize this because you're obviously a young child, but you're really not winning any new customers for KobrVR when you act this way.

Im sure the KobraVR guy wouldn't really appreciate you making him or his product look bad by making a public fool of yourself in the name of his product.

[oblique narwhal]

All of thje above

LOL, and yeah at that time I thought SPine was a good choice but it sucked

[remote tiger]

Thought u said u were leaving. Got my hopes up 😦

[vivid trail]

dam

[icy cobalt]

Unfortunately, doesn't work like that.
All of the designs that I'd recommend to you are reasonable in all categories, but when you design something you need to choose a priority.

That's a bit like walking into a car dealer and saying "needs to go fast, and go off-road, and be cheap, and fuel efficient, and be good at a track."

You need to choose a priority. Something that you want from the stock.

[icy cobalt]

What product do you suppose he thinks I'm pushing?

[remote tiger]

Yea no he has recommended mine before he has recomended cheezys bowk etc

He is pretty good at actually doing a good critical review

Not just saying this sucks bye. If he says it sucks he explains WHY and how he came to that conclusion

He has a vast list of pros and cons of most stocks so

Just ignore him lightwolf not worth it

[icy cobalt]

Thanks mate, much appreciated.

[remote tiger]

Gotchu homie

[icy cobalt]

So let's do this a little differently. Rank those priorities 1-4

[calm vessel]

I’ve given two other alternatives, no agenda here your just mad trying to push the narrative as well as the fetch stick your pushing 😃

[oblique narwhal]

Ease and Speed is my number 1, Budget isnt small or to big but I wouldnt wanna pay for a product mainly over 100, Adaptability isnt a huge concern aslong as it isnt as annoying to calibrate each time, I just mainly play tabor or onward and sometimes tact vr, Accuracy and Long Range is also a major factorl,

[icy cobalt]

so
Ease and speed
accuracy,
budget,
adaptability

In that order?

[oblique narwhal]

Mhm

Well just switch budget and adaptability

[icy cobalt]

Cool. Do you have a preference for a stock that's always on your hand, or one you engage and drop onto a sling?

[calm vessel]

Mr lightpuff who rattled your cage anyway? you must obviously have shares in his tat cos your trying to twist it, it’s boring do your research folk you get what you pay for remember that especially when it comes down to a gunstock, YouTube DIY one before buying any 😃

[icy cobalt]

Weren't you going?

If you can't chat without being a troll, then you're useless to anyone.

Just stop, kiddo

[oblique narwhal]

Sling isnt really that importat for me but id prefer it

MODUSA looks nice

[icy cobalt]

I'm not aware of that one, mind linking it?

[remote tiger]

Yea I’m curious

[oblique narwhal]

Modusr i lean

https://www.etsy.com/listing/911983863/

[remote tiger]

Ohhh yes I have seen that one before

I wana say their files are online

U can print it urself if I remember correctly

[oblique narwhal]

I dont own a 3d printer sadly

[remote tiger]

Gotchaa

[oblique narwhal]

I remember this one tiktoker had a stock called tomohawk or something like that, looked cool but had a hefty price

[icy cobalt]

ah, this fellow. Looks decent enough.

In that vein, here's my ranked choices for you, with a little commentary
Bowk marksman checks most of the boxes for you, with one caviat. It's a non magnetic cup system, so it takes a bit of a hit to ease of use. Otherwise, it's as fast as you are and very accurate. If you hadn't mentioned liking the modus, then this one would have been lower on the list due to that ease of use hit. You absolutely will fumble blindly with this while learning it.

I'd suggest looking at protube. It's a bit more up market, and trades a bit for extremely high versatility, but it's the defacto model for magnetic stocks with that form factor. There's a couple immitators down market to look at if you like that form factor.

on the other end of form factor, take a look at the freedomstock. Since you rank adaptability pretty low, I will mention kobra's sidewinder. Even if that kid makes me not want to. Give it a look. It's more expensive than the freedomstock heavier, and puts all the weight on your right hand. It also has what I consider to be unacceptably low levels of adaptability.

Pick out a form factor and let's narrow on that

[icy cobalt]

Unusable for tabor, and those folks who've had one and come back here gave them pretty bad reviews, honestly. @lethal sinew would be the first hand experience there.

[icy cobalt]

Pretty much wherever you are in the world, we can find you a maker's space that will give you access to a good 3D printer for 30$ or less. If you choose to DIY it, then let me know. Love a good project

[lethal sinew]

I have the Modus R, it's great. Better than the heavier tomahawk from skol vr

Have user reviews here if you're interested :

#1123529753274634251 message

If you're on a budget, definitely look into printing one of the bowk stock parts at a nearby 'maker space' and slapping the parts to a dowel rod.

And if you are super strapped for cash... Check out this:
https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[knotty igloo]

My mark ll if your design

[oblique narwhal]

How is it for tabor ?

[lethal sinew]

My review for the stock specifically for Tabor here:
#1123529753274634251 message

Short answer: Good, infinitely customizable, has cheek weld. No magnets to mess with.

[icy cobalt]

Haven't held it, but I trust Don on that. Design seems solid (and personally I prefer no magnets)

[oblique narwhal]

I’ve always been skeptical of shotguns for stocks

Found it forta useless

[royal wagon]

It’s ok, shotguns have been kinda useless in every VR FPS game so it doesn’t matter

[unkempt dagger]

Made my own freedom stock cuz I’m broke af…

[remote tiger]

Gotta agree lol

[undone bolt]

Anyone here know if they have plans to implement a proper calibration system rather than whatever we have now?

[royal wagon]

they have said that this is only the first version of the systems they plan on implementing

[undone bolt]

just spent like an hour and a half trying to calibrate and between the only calibrating for one hand thing, variations per gun and where you grip them, and the bugs relating to the hand offsets resetting (yes i saw the pinned) I've gotten to the point where I can get a half decent sight picture on like most of the guns (in my safe house as there's no way to check the other guns as I dont have traders levels and going into an offline raid to pick up guns to try would take even longer

[royal wagon]

its shortcomings are well known, and workarounds well documented

[undone bolt]

Yeah I figured, no way anyone could go through the process and not see the flaws. I guess I'm just venting at this point tbh.

Although, rage, your messages here were pretty helpful, so kudos to you.

[oblique narwhal]

Yeah I might get this

[narrow seal]

What’s a good affordable stock on the market

[icy cobalt]

@remote tiger

[remote tiger]

I have been awaken from my slumber. thanks light wolf

@narrow seal I sell a gunstock that is geared for being affordable. I sell mine for 34.96

I’ll send u some info to ur dm 🙂

[narrow seal]

Yes please

[remote tiger]

Just sent 🙂

[knotty igloo]

This it’s basically free and infinitely customizable

[narrow seal]

Lol

[oblique narwhal]

Do it bend tho

[flat inlet]

Just add another hanger to make it stronger lol

[oblique narwhal]

Ol

[lusty thicket]

Eventually

People kept complaining and wanting it so they pushed. Out a unfinished version basically

[icy cobalt]

They have a unique challenge with calibration in this game

[lusty thicket]

Calibration is exactly easy

[alpine sundial]

My v gunstock bugs out way too much

[oblique narwhal]

I mean yeah its virtual

[icy cobalt]

On what basis do you say that?

[mortal parcel]

When will they just prioritize fixing gunstock calibration and allowing guns to work with any stock like I haven’t played this game if forever I loved it before the very first hand offset update after that it has been ruined and I’ve been playing Pavlov

They don’t realize the amount of players that would come back to this game if they would just fix the gun alignment with the stocks just add full adjustment all offset directions and angles and let us play

[lusty thicket]

Isn't*

[remote tiger]

although i agree with you. i def dont think its a priority for them rn.
I would love to see the fixes to gunstock cal and things like that but they are working primarly on other issues

[remote tiger]

lol i was really confused why you were sayint that lol

bc it def isnt as easy as it could be

[lusty thicket]

Game being playable for everyone is more of a goal for them then a quality of life fix for a fraction of the population

[remote tiger]

all we can do is post our comments in the bug reports/ questions/ suggestions

[mortal parcel]

I know that’s why I was venting they literally said their priority is the hot fix in the announcements I just had to get that message out there in hopes a dev sees it and decides to put a word in with the big fish

[remote tiger]

id say 25-40 % use gunstocks

so its there but there is def more issues eslewhere

[lusty thicket]

Probably less

[remote tiger]

prob yea

[mortal parcel]

I would say 45%

If you guys play Pavlov you would see the world of gunstocks those mother truckers don’t miss

Including me 💪

[lusty thicket]

Pavlov is pretty easy even without a stock

I would say the amount of people I. Got who owns/uses a stock is under 30%

[oblique narwhal]

They gotta fix all the bugs that come out every update lol

[sonic vine]

lol

[shy notch]

For this kind of game with all the varieties we have (sights, grips) and the possibility to change them during the raid we need a gunstock calibration on the fly. Tales of glory 2 has this feature, you can change the offset during game, entering the calibration mode with pressing both thumpsticks + both triggers iirc

[royal wagon]

thats what adjustable gunstocks are for

[shy notch]

Yes and no, imo it's easier to solve this in software than force everyone to buy an adjustable Gunstock

So the low budget Gunstock users are served too

Even with an adjustable gunstock I can't fine tune it when changing the sight or switch from AK to M4

[royal wagon]

sounds like you need to change the alignment, thats a pretty easy adjustment for me

the guns are a bit funkier regarding socket placement and gun alignment than any other game

[pure crown]

Do gunstocks even help with aim?

[royal wagon]

yes

[pure crown]

What if you’re using a pistol?

[royal wagon]

can still work

[pure crown]

So if you’re using a gunstock it locks your controllers in place right?

So how am I supposed to reload or do anything else?

[royal wagon]

it depends on the design, highly evolved designs like the magtube have a quick attach/detach magnetic system that makes it totally seamless

[pure crown]

And how much are those?

[royal wagon]

i like the all carbon setup, which is about 170

[pure crown]

Im not buying it. Way too expensive for a glorified stick with magnets

[oblique narwhal]

True

[royal wagon]

i can understand how people who dont have experience with gunstocks can see it that way

[remote tiger]

@pure crown im assuming ur playing on index?

[pure crown]

The magtube is way to expensive they probably make 80% of the Price in profit it’s just so stupid to buy it

[remote tiger]

there are ALOT of stocks out there that are how you described @pure crown

[pure crown]

Yes almost every good gunstock out there the only way its good to buy a gunstock its if you buy it but not new idk How you say in english but to someone who already play with it

[pure crown]

Yeah

[remote tiger]

gotcha yea i sell one for the quest for 34.96. im trying to open the market for those who dont want so spend an arm and a leg on a stock

[pure crown]

Cool but I have like no money

[remote tiger]

yea i understand. i also dont sell for index lol

[pure crown]

So no matter how cheap or free your stocks are I’m not buying

[remote tiger]

understandable. there are many DIY options out there

[royal wagon]

then why are you here?

[remote tiger]

lol

[royal wagon]

because it really just reads like you are trying to stir the pot

[oblique narwhal]

He just came here to argue

[remote tiger]

as many do lol

[shy notch]

We are all here because of the immersion VR brings, and almost every Gunstock takes it to the next level... Fact

[remote tiger]

yes. but he was refering to how he came to argue

[royal wagon]

we dont need to stir the pot further here

[austere pine]

I’m here just waiting for Scott to release their own stock

[remote tiger]

can u share specs?

[austere pine]

I don’t have any information at hand. I just know it’s coming. Soon™️

[remote tiger]

gotcha

any ideas on when gunstock cal will be improved / fixed

regardless of how good any gunstock is it has limits without the software to back it up

[royal wagon]

theres no dates or ETAs

[remote tiger]

having to change the phy stock for each primary gun etc

[oblique narwhal]

Like the Steam Deckard

So far away but looks so goood

[austere pine]

Negative. I have no insider information. Just a Discord moderator waiting on updates like everyone else 🫡

[remote tiger]

fair enough

[shy notch]

Im curious if the Q3 Controllers will fit the Q2 Cups of the Gunstocks... For me the form looks quite similar

[remote tiger]

i was told they are slightly smaller

[shy notch]

Smaller is good than I can print inlays to make it fit

It will be strange without the halos😂 no colission while reloading anymore

[remote tiger]

yessss

[icy cobalt]

I think it's way more niche than you're thinking. Only a slice of players use a stock, and a much smaller slice don't have the adjustment range to make it work right now.

[icy cobalt]

Cool, we have allot of free diy designs, but if you're here just to complain, get out

[remote tiger]

lol

[mortal parcel]

If they were to fix it right now I can guarantee you the number of stock using players would go up in this game faster than Shiba Inu

[mortal parcel]

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[hardy steeple]

Make a thick hanger version

[oblique narwhal]

Istock said if u buy one they should fit but they'll upgrade you for free

I still didnt buy it though lol because istock isnt really for me

[hardy steeple]

Just bought I stock don't know if I'll like it because of the string but it looks good idk

[oblique narwhal]

For its price point it isnt the best

Ngl I could see it be like 20 bucks or 25 max but 40-50 is absurd

They must be using amazing materials if its that price

[sour fossil]

I had an original iStock and the cup just cracked after about a year. I wouldn't go back to one but it was ok for a game like Pop One where you can set offhand influence to 0% for shooting.

[icy cobalt]

I'm sorry for you mate

[icy cobalt]

You base that on what?
Anything with the profile of a bowk, protube, or freedomstock, toxic's, or any other decent stock already performs in game.

Basically the only one's left out to dry are vrs, kobra, and the generic non adjustable stocks

Oh, and olen

[shy notch]

Do these stocks work well if controllers are mounted under the stock?

Especially Q2 should have problems with it

[proper cipher]

you can also use the stock calibrator if you're not using a stock at all and just cheek one controller, helps a lot

[hardy steeple]

Have u had one? If u have is it good bad cheaply made

[twin thunder]

Should I get the i-stock

[hardy steeple]

I'll let you know I'll dm u rn and tell u later

[icy cobalt]

Short answer is no. Long answer talk to @obtuse idol

[austere pine]

Some people swear by it. To me I think it’s just strange if you can’t hold your primary hand still. Just tuck your elbow and stop drinking 1000mg of caffeine before you play

[icy cobalt]

You're kinda getting the worst of all worlds, allot of the people who come back here have tracking issues because the length of pull is too short, it's fragile, and to paraphrase zephyr, it's like playing in handcuffs.

There's better options, even at the price point

[remote tiger]

@twin thunder ill send you some info to ur dm. if considering a stock for quest 2 i would take a look! i sell for 34.96 and its a full stock instead of a half

[obtuse idol]

I do still deny the suggestion that the iStock is causing tracking issues. But, yes; when you aren't ADS, it feels like you're in cuffs. Otherwise it works surprisingly well, I just think there are better options.

[gleaming bobcat]

hi

[remote tiger]

hello

[shy path]

New stock from olen came in got it halo themed

[icy cobalt]

Let us know your opinion. Generally, we're not big fans around here. First stock?

[remote tiger]

will admit it looks sick

curious ab the tracking specifically

[oblique narwhal]

Looks cool but it causes major tracking issues for me when I tried reusing it, maybe if it was for the index or pro then yeah

[remote tiger]

Yep I figured it would be bad for tracking

[royal wagon]

it is known

[clear lily]

You think i can print this is my school’s 3d printer without anyone knowing?💀

[icy cobalt]

Just do it. The rods you buy separate, so it shouldn't look like anything problematic

[clear lily]

Okay

💀

[oblique narwhal]

Sure

[hardy steeple]

Anybody looking for istock here is my thought on it, I stock is all right it is a 3D printed material which I mean is kind of flimsy and breakable so don't be super rough don't hit you know against walls or whatnot and on top of all that it's kind of weird because you can't really climb ladders and goes to the bore although it would be better in different games population one maybe onward Pavlov other FPS shooters that are not goes to the tabor goes to the boar has so many different mechanics climbing ladders scavenging it's kind of hard to do all that with the istock

[open bramble]

I bought the same stock and it the butt stock snapped in half after only 3 days from just normal use, After two weeks my replacements parts are finally going to be here tmmr

[knotty igloo]

No but you should try

[native crater]

Man I was tempted to buy a gun stock than I saw this post of someone just using the strap off a gym bag as a sling,so I tried it and it worked great, a lot more steady because I’m able to apply tension, and I’m not restricted at all movement wise. Best part is that it was free

Highly recommend trying before investing in an expensive stock

[shy notch]

the modusR is quite similar to. Protube, don't you think they will get copyright problems

I saw that Protube has a copyright on the design as well as for the magnet mechanism

[knotty igloo]

i made mine from coat hangers

[icy cobalt]

Their copyright is extremely narrow. No problem

[icy cobalt]

Anything is a huge improvement over nothing.
But stopping because something is better than freehand?

[oblique narwhal]

Magnet is fair game

It's only copyright if its full on using the protube design

[iron pike]

Over priced garbage

[wild ruin]

Our patents can be found here, for anyone curious of what they cover https://www.protubevr.com/en/content/40-patents

[shy notch]

@wild ruin appreciate this, but this would mean all VR controller cups with a magnetic clip system will violate your copyright as well as every stock with 3 rods and adjustable joints, no?

[wild ruin]

No

That'd be like trying to patent the use of velcro on a product (such as our ProTas joystick), a pre existing and pre established means of securing something

There are numerous gunstocks on the market that use magnets, and numerous gunstocks that use some form of tube (be it plastic, metal, or carbon) & connector frame as a base.

I'm not a lawyer and don't have any sort of expertise when it comes to patents.

It is the how exactly we use these things that is patented, and our specific designs around that. For example our MagCups and mounting points have a very specific design for our system.

[shy notch]

Ok understand, thank you for the detailed explanation

[wild ruin]

If you want a very specific and detailed explanation on what it actually covers, you can ask support on the website. I'm just making a rough guess because I am not an expert. I do know the patents are in place to protect the company and have been enforced in the past, especially very early on in VR gunstock days (2017-2018 era) when there would be knock offs everywhere. People would complain to ProTube about their gunstock being crappy, when in fact it was not our product they had bought 😅 Highest profile example being Machinima's VR Power Hour had a gunstock that looked exactly like a ProTube, to the point one of the founders, Bourin01 thought it was our product

[wild ruin]

From a quick search this is what is on the ModusR, which is entirely different

(the pic is from the etsy listing, which is first result on google)

[shy notch]

Yep I see this is different

[solar apex]

What’s a really good, cheap gun stock for my first gunstock?

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

See @remote tiger for cheapest I'd recommend

Read the link for more

[remote tiger]

@solar apex hey man ill send you a dm with info ab my stock!

[shy notch]

can someone tell me where I can order magnets that attract each other in the correct way? I ordered some but they don't align correct when I try to put them together

OCEUMAOA Neodym Magnete Extra Stark mit Loch 10kg Magnet zum Anschrauben Magnete Extra Stark mit Schrauben für Werkstatteinrichtung Zubehör 20mm 8 Stück https://amzn.eu/d/eqkgSEZ

I ordered these

[remote tiger]

Did u flip one of them?

What u need is bipolar magnets

[shy notch]

Can't flip as they have a space for the screwhead only on one side

[remote tiger]

i see

you can always hot glue

or superglue

[shy notch]

True, I'm just courius how others solved this as in the Protube they seem to have the same magnets but they work front-front🤔 @wild ruin can you uncover this secret for me maybe😬

[tepid sigil]

I am just wondering what gunstock should I buy

[remote tiger]

@tepid sigil what is ur price range and what system do u use

[tepid sigil]

Well I use quest 2 and the price range under £200

[wild ruin]

https://www.protubevr.com/en/product/5-6-componant.html#/6-compo_0_type-magnet_20mm_x_6mm_for_cup_n

https://www.protubevr.com/en/product/5-7-componant.html#/7-compo_0_type-magnet_20mm_x_6mm_for_bracket_s

We sell both polarities on our website

Very strong, holds upwards of 8kg+

[velvet shoal]

I just got the gilstro gun stock for quest 2 does anyone have any good or bad opinions on it

[noble smelt]

I have the magni stock +. I have no complaints about the stock, it's very adjustable and works great for this game

[remote tiger]

@tepid sigil i sell a more cost efective solution for quest 2. i sell for 34.96 USD. ill send some info to ur dm if interested 🙂

[shy notch]

Thank you, than I know a source now👍✌️

[tepid sigil]

Yeh ok sounds good

I don’t know yet

[remote tiger]

No worries 🙂

[rustic summit]

Can u send me the info too