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[royal wagon]

Or rotate my hands a lot

Now, a tight 2 point setup like light wolf uses makes more sense for top bar

[icy cobalt]

Let's start at the beginning. Are you on Index or quest?

[remote tiger]

Lolll

[brisk hollow]

I decided to go for bowk due to it’s price point and I believe it provides everything I need. My only question is what’s the difference between the marksman and they’re other “Invert” marksman stock?

@icy cobalt

[icy cobalt]

ok, so neither rage nor I are on quest. But we'll help the best we can. What do you want to do with the stock? rack long range headshots, charge around corners, etc?

[brisk hollow]

I want to be able to move around corners quite easily while still maintaining stability

[icy cobalt]

invert puts the bar over the controllers instead of under. Mine is an invert. Some quest users report tracking problems with an invert

[brisk hollow]

I’ll go with the marksman due to the other issues with tracking. I had a question as well does the stock work good with swapping to sidearms.

[icy cobalt]

I just had a mag run dry and did just that. But ease of use is lower on the bowk, I warn you now. Theres a number of reasons I prefer no magnet, but you will have to get used to connecting blindly.

[brisk hollow]

Another question I have about it is it good for Close Quarter Combat?

[icy cobalt]

Team Mayhem, perennial onward rank 1-2, all use it. Bowk making it for his team is where it started. It's extremely good. But it is only as fast as you are and there is no magnets drawing you in. It makes it lighter, faster, stronger, and your controller tracking won't flip out from a magnetic jolt. But you absolutely will fumble with it at first.

[brisk hollow]

So it is a perfect stock with practice. How long did it take you to get used to it?

[icy cobalt]

That's a how many licks to the center of a tootsie pop question. It's a sliding scale, and I'm on a different machine using an invert marksman. For me it took a couple days to feel OK with a bolt action or doing other things.
But you're going to be using a fundamentally different attachment method from me, and one that's a bit faster.

In making sure I wasn't going to be giving bad info replying to swervo here, I found pictures of Mr. Bowk doing pull ups on 1 of the attachment cups.

[royal wagon]

thats impressive, from pictures i cant really see how it attaches/detaches

the magnetic attachment issue doesnt affect all vr controllers, its hard to say if it will affects your or not though, and you can usually do a recalibration and fix the issue. with some practice even if you have a sensitive controller you can get it to be pretty smooth

[hybrid shore]

trying to calibrate the gunstock, but it doesnt let you grab the front of a rifle. is this intended?

[still crater]

Yep

Put ur front Controller in the stock and adjust how u like it

[rancid fjord]

I am 5,6 looking for a gun stock any recommendations

[remote tiger]

@rancid fjord what is ur price point

[rancid fjord]

whats a good buget

[formal nimbus]

Just say it

[rancid fjord]

100

[formal nimbus]

Usd??!?!?

[rancid fjord]

ya but that is max i want to go lower

[formal nimbus]

Man u if want cheap and good one @remote tiger stock is the perfect 10/10

[remote tiger]

@rancid fjord if ur looking for a quality but cost effective gunstock for quest 2 I’ll send some info to ur dm!

[rancid fjord]

thanks

[icy cobalt]

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Pasta 37

[royal wagon]

Check the pin in this channel for a setup procedure, this is one of the known bugs

[brisk hollow]

Would the bowk marksman stock be good for someone who is 5’9?

[icy cobalt]

Yes.

[brisk hollow]

I’ve seen rage hit some pretty nasty shots on his twitch with his stock, from a decently far range. Would the bowk also be able to implement the same accuracy as of the mag tube stock?

[icy cobalt]

So height doesn't matter so much as length of pull.

https://hsprecision.com/how-to-measure-length-of-pull/

[icy cobalt]

Well, I'm my team's marksman. Here's a couple score cards from the last few days in GoT

In reality, both are an exponential increase in accuracy over nothing.

The Bowk sacrifices some versatility to be lighter weight and a little more stiff.

[brisk hollow]

I believe that would suit me better as I am a more aggressive player who traverses the map quite wuickly

[brisk hollow]

None but headshots nice. I believe you have helped me make my choice thank you @icy cobalt

[golden rapids]

Hey I need a budget physical gun stock anyone got suggestions

[lethal sinew]

How budget? There's some "free" options in #1123529753274634251 message

[icy cobalt]

Pasta 38

[formal nimbus]

Id u want smg about 35 usd buy @remote tiger stock

He ship to everywhere

[remote tiger]

@golden rapids as sheep wolf stated I do sell a full gunstock for the quest 2 for 34.96. I’ll send some info to ur dm to take a look at!

[blissful beacon]

any tips for gun stock calibration cause mine seems to fuck up all my settings

[wild ruin]

Hi, ProTubeVR have just released a new shoulder stock!

The height adjustable Static Stock MK2 . Available now, on sale for 30% off through the end of August.

For more information check out this detailed blog post: https://www.protubevr.com/en/blog/news/new-upgrade-for-vr-rifles-static-stock-mk2

To see the product page go here: https://www.protubevr.com/en/sp-magtube/200-stock-mk2-3666657019955.html

If you want a full MagTube with the new stock go here and select "Switch standard stock MK1 to adjustable stock MK2" optional add on: https://www.protubevr.com/en/accueil/169-magtube-gunstock.html

[royal wagon]

check the pin

[stray lotus]

my friends skull is leaking red

i shot him with a glock

any ideas?

[sonic cape]

Find a new friend

[slender prairie]

waiting for freedomstock v3 like

[dim halo]

The wait for the tomahawk is killin me

[icy cobalt]

If you put in more drain holes he'll stop leaking faster

[steel wraith]

Anyone recommend a gunstock for begginers?

For like $50 or below

[slim hedge]

Dose anyone have the original link to the gunstock

[pure crown]

any cheap valve index gunstocks???

[slim hedge]

I need a quest one cheap

[slender prairie]

I can’t take it anymore

😭

[steel wraith]

For meta

[icy cobalt]

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As for the index, cheap is mostly going to be diy. I can walk you through some of that.

[grizzled shard]

I have level 4 specter if anyone needs anything dm me and we will discuss prices

[glacial pollen]

How do u calibrate a gun stock??

[jovial valve]

Hey yall gotta question. Just finished my print of my gunstock and went to go and calibrate it and having some trouble with my left hand. Since I can’t attach it to the gun during the calibration whenever I leave the Calibration and just attach my right hand (with my gunstock) the sights are dead nuts but as soon as I attach my left hand to muzzle of the rifle points directly up and fucks everything up. Any advice or tips on how to resolve this? Not sure if it’s due to another setting I have set or what

[royal wagon]

Check the pin it covers why it’s doing what you are doing

[remote tiger]

Hey man I sell one for quest for 34.96

@slim hedge I’ll send info to ur dm

@steel wraith hey man if u are on quest i sell one for 34.96
Ill send you info to ur dm

[opal stump]

Anyone got a p90

[icy cobalt]

Does this look like trading chat?

[opal stump]

Just wanted to know how it was

[royal wagon]

its ok

[opal stump]

My Fav gun in contractors

Haven’t got it here yet but i seen it at the market

[royal wagon]

its a different game, so it behaves differently

[wind spade]

Seconded! I'm having the same issue. In order to hold it straight, I have to being my second hand way down. So far down I can't regrab the stock if I let go.

So if I understand the pinned post right, does that mean I've lowered the main hand too much so when I grab it's seeing the second hand as much higher? Do I have that right?

[icy cobalt]

I'm on index, and @royal wagon is the guy to talk about this. But stop using the gun that appears as part of the calibration. Use calibration and another rifle (or three, for me), to get the rotation and verticality correct.

[wind spade]

Interesting. I was definitely trying to use the same rifle again, so I'll give that a try

[tame python]

Anyone got any suggestions for a new be user gunstock wise

[royal wagon]

the reason the gun points up is because your front hand is too high for that particular gun, some guns have a very "narrow" hand to handguard/front grip area socket design (the part your hands attach to) and your front hand needs to be lower in order to aim it properly

gunstock calibration only affects the relative location of the rear hand socket on the gun

normally you would adjust this with an adjustable stock so your front hand was lower, but if you dont have one the only way to fix that with the gunstock calibration we have right now is to raise the height of the gun so your front hand is effectively lower

[harsh zinc]

Anyone wanna trade deagle

[wind spade]

does the calibration create different settings for each classification of gun, or are they all attached? When I finally get things lined up for rifles, the SMGs are way off. I can't seem to home in on the right settings

[wind spade]

By the way, your ProTube VR setup video helped tremendously for my Into the Radius setup. Do you use your MagTube for Tabor as well? I'd be interested in seeing your stock orientation you've got to work so I can try and replicate it

[remote tiger]

@tame python hey man if on quest I sell one for 34.96. Full stock. I’ll send info to ur dm

[icy cobalt]

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[crude flume]

I’m wonder if I should I use a virtual gunstock, or get a vr gun stock off of Amazon. I’ve never tried a gunstock, and when I use virtual gunstock on other games my aim gets gradually worse.

[remote tiger]

Yea I personally don’t like virtual gunstock. If looking for a cost effective one for quest check ur dm I’ll send u what I got

[icy cobalt]

Don't buy off Amazon. Unless it's changed a heck of a lot, the ones they have are pretty trash.
#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message read and pick a manufacturer, then go to the manufacturer.

Pasta 40

[harsh zinc]

Can anyone sell me a scar

[remote tiger]

I can agree with light wolf

[crude flume]

I found a scar out in the open in an island raid

But my friend said not to take it because the sound is very noticeable and you’ll be hunted

[remote tiger]

you could always sell it

[icy cobalt]

So kill the people hunting you or suppress it.

[icy cobalt]

I would hope so, you're listed in my 4 common stocks. 😛

[edgy thunder]

Has anyone made a gunstock out of those brown soda/beer bottles? like, all taped together in a lin e with a few sticking up for grips?

[remote tiger]

@icy cobalt lol i was refering more to the amazon thing that they are mostly garbage

[icy cobalt]

Not to my knowledge. Sharp glass edges plus violent movements while blind don't sound like a great combo

[remote tiger]

yea i would highly caution in using anything glass as you can swing arond and hit things

[royal wagon]

I use the Magtube for every fps game with two handed weapons, the GOT physical alignment I posted is different than what I used for ITR, but it might work.

[royal wagon]

You select the class of weapon you want to calibrate when you go through the calibration, it’s different for each one you do

Do note all of the steps in the instructions

[wind spade]

I'll keep working at it then. I was struggling to get the SMGs in particular to work

[wide brook]

For the pico Users here. Maybe you already searched the whole Internet for gunstocks and recognize that most of them are for quest2. So i had not much choice, and went for a protube starter + shoulder support, it is about 120€ incl tax and shipping. I found it still quite expensive for two cheap cfk pipes and some 3d printed parts and i think it still is. But also im suprised about the quality for the 3d printed parts, they Look pretty good and feels sturdy as well. They also have an printed tpu inlay for the cups which gives a really perfect fit with the Controllers, i noticed zero wobbling or flex at all. Also pretty nice for tarkov, i am still able to use pistol attach scopes loot with both hands. I had a lot of concerns but i am really happy with my choice.

[icy cobalt]

Bowk marksman also has a pico 4 option, just went and checked

[harsh zinc]

Dm me if anyone can trade scar

[wide brook]

Okay? Are you the seller of this ? This Channel feels like a marketplace where everyone is yelling my gunstock is the best

[icy cobalt]

Have you clicked on my copy paste? Also, leave a review of your stock in the review thread.
No, I'm not associated with bowk

[icy cobalt]

A good 90% of this thread is either people asking about the calibration or finding a gunstock. So odds are extremely high someone is going to look here in a minute and say 'ah, I have a pico, and that's the only stock I see'

[wide brook]

I did not say it is the only one, i said there is not much choice, and most of them are only for quest2 and this is True in my opinion. And the bowk Looks fairly okay btw.. no drama, but you have nearly 700 messages in that channel and ragesaq even more, feels weird to be honest

[icy cobalt]

No drama. Immediately throws shade for being bored while overseas and helping people pick stocks.

[remote tiger]

@wide brook im not seeing the issue. he just helps people find good stocks

[icy cobalt]

A good chunk of my messages are basically just this link followed by an ascending number.
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[remote tiger]

thats true

[wind spade]

Okay. I FINALLY understand what ragesaq was saying in the pinned post.

The game can ONLY ADJUST THE REAR HAND and nothing else. So you have to calibrate gun placement in reference to the front sight and your eye, NOT the rear sight (main hand) and your eye. it seems obvious now, but I wanted to drop this in here in case anyone else is struggling with the front hand pointing your aim way up or down like I was.

[royal wagon]

that is what it says in the pinned post 🙂

[wind spade]

yeah. My backwards brain took way to long to pick up what you were putting down 🙃

[agile hearth]

This looks sick

[royal wagon]

yeah, ive got one on the way

i dont really need it, but im going to try it out and see how it is. it'll be good for people to really get things dialed in

[icy cobalt]

It reminds me strongly of something https://www.bowkvr.com/shop/p/marksman-back-end-upgrade-for-protube

[agile hearth]

I prob gonna buy it since it's on sale

And ProTube is based in EU so I don't have to pay import taxes for once lol

[royal wagon]

i restructured the contents of the pinned message, trying to make the key point a little more visible to improve the quality of the documentation, can you look at it again and see what you think?

[wind spade]

I'm pretty excited to get one of these!

[wind spade]

I think that definitely helps!

You definitely had it clearly stated in the original but my brain, for whatever reason, wasn't getting it until I thought of it as adjusting the rear sight around a stationary front sight instead of adjusting the entire gun

[pure crown]

Lol I bought one for my pico 4 days ago. The cups don't attach well fast for the stock for quick movements

[wild ruin]

https://twitter.com/ProTubeVR/status/1690054921679183881

ProTubeVR (@ProTubeVR)

@CLRans82 Of course :) we exchanged with the creator during his prototyping process at the time.

Twitter · Aug 11, 2023, 5:37 PM

[icy cobalt]

I don't have twitter, but I'm assuming the similarity is no accident

🙂

[wild ruin]

It should show a preview of the message, if it doesn't

Of course 🙂 we exchanged with the creator during his prototyping process at the time.

[coral meteor]

+1 for Protube. I've had mine for well over a year. It's super adjustable, removing your hands/controllers is done with an easy twisting off mechanic. It's light enough to not bother me when it's just hanging there. And it's adjusted to match my main Airsoft rifle so the feeling is very familiar when shouldering it

Bonus picture from the setup. I've actually had it for two years now. So it's a quality product

[royal wagon]

thats a short length of pull

[coral meteor]

At 175 it's the correct length for me. Remember that target shooting and combat (fake combat in my case) is two different disciplines with different setups

[royal wagon]

ah, ive got a steeper angle on the shoulder than you, index controllers are taller

[coral meteor]

Makes sense. The golden rule I've learned for maneuverability vs accuracy is for the LoP to result in a 90 degree angle at your elbow. And then ofc it's preference when adjusting from there, people like different stuff

[wide brook]

In my case they fit perfect, do you have the flexible inlays in the Cups ?

[sonic ocean]

who wanna see my stats on apex

[icy cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/maam-this-is-a-wendys-gif-22294839

[icy cobalt]

https://hsprecision.com/how-to-measure-length-of-pull/
It's a decent rule, though most people go slightly shorter.
I'd say you're probably also not in VR wearing a vest. Though if you are, good on you, additional larp points

[hollow glen]

Oi guys got any good stocks under 60 Euros

That could be magnetic

[coral meteor]

Now I kinda wanna try VR with my plate carrier on

[icy cobalt]

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[icy cobalt]

Magnets aren't everyone's cup of tea. I don't like them. And I don't think you'll find good and magnetic in your budget

[narrow raven]

They need to make it so you can calibrate each weapon. If my m4 and AK are sighted in, the sks is off. Is there any way to fix that

[remote tiger]

I wana say sks is it’s own category. They don’t match with ars

It’s tilted more

[remote tiger]

@hollow glen mine is not magnetic but as light wolf says and I also agree with magnets can be a bit annoying. I sell mine for 34.96 I’ll send some info to ur dm

[pure crown]

I am throwing out my protube. Using without a stock is better for me

[desert oyster]

what is virtual stock?

[remote tiger]

its a feature in the game that makes it feel in game like you are using a stock

pretty much it just pivots it on your shoulder

[crisp knoll]

Whats a good stock for a beginner player ?

[remote tiger]

what is ur pricepoint and system you use

[crisp knoll]

I use oculus rift and my price point is 60€ max if that's an option

[remote tiger]

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check out some in there!

[crisp knoll]

Thank you , I appreciate the effort. Going to have a look at that bowk being mentioned

[remote tiger]

Sounds good! Enjoy

[narrow raven]

I got the 3 daptive modusr I have calibrated all gun types but some guns do not line up. Need help

[deft marsh]

Anyone have any expierience with the bowk vr invert marksman? If so what are its pros and cons?

[faint wigeon]

@icy cobalt

[rancid fjord]

i recomend the olen vr mob v1

https://www.olenvr.com/vr-gun-stock-accessories/mob-v1

[deft marsh]

I've used a gunstock like it for a very long time and the problem is that the tracking is really bad when you press your cheek on the gunstock, as well i am trying to stray away from magnet gunstocks.

[polar jewel]

Shameless copy of Sanlaki's old free files!

[thorny glade]

only magnet stock you should get is freedom vr stock

[radiant epoch]

Have the devs fix the calibration for the gunstocks. I bought a protube stock to use in this game and the calibration setting’s barely work.

[thorny glade]

still can work without callibration though. youll just have to angle it to be correct

[radiant epoch]

First of all technically that’s right but that shouldn’t be the solution. If I set up my stock for any of the AK’s yeah they work great and even can work with most of the AR style guns. The problem is then I pick up something like the sks the sights aren’t aligned properly. Or the Thompson. If I’m in a tough situation I can’t just take the time to readjust my stock. From what I’ve heard this problem has been a thing for a few updates now. Have the devs fix it :P

[icy cobalt]

Care to talk about the issues you're facing?

[pure crown]

Free hands > stock

Free hands are alot better for aimming fr

[icy cobalt]

Stock>free hand.

[radiant epoch]

If they fixed the issues with using a stock I’d agree but until they do I’m just doing freehand

Hell almost all of my kills were with freehand

[royal wagon]

Check the pin, the gunstock calibration system works, but not for each individual weapon as they have different grabbing geometries

[remote tiger]

It really depends on the stock. I have no issues with just using no gunstock cal or virtual gunstock

[radiant epoch]

Brotha Ik that it barely works but they can improve it

[royal wagon]

An m4 and sks have very different grabbing points, the sks front hand is much higher, so you can’t have a 4 point gunstock fit both without changing the physical alignment

[royal wagon]

It will be in time

[radiant epoch]

It sure had been some time then 🤣

[remote tiger]

also I wouldn’t classify theirs as working when u have to follow specific steps such as closing and opening the game and it won’t save properly if you don’t do specific steps and all that. In my eyes to work it has to work as intended. It’s “useable” but not working

[royal wagon]

Multiple people have used the steps in the pin to get a reliable and advantageous gunstock calibration, so it works. The setup is buggy, but it works

[remote tiger]

But does it work as intended is my point

[royal wagon]

Yes

[thorny glade]

depends on the stock

[remote tiger]

I disagree heavily but it doesn’t really matter to all our own

[pure crown]

For this game, Maybe a 1 point stock

[icy cobalt]

Hey! So I'm on index, not quest, so I can't speak to any potential tracking issues because mine is fundamentally different.
The invert marksman lends itself to rotational stability, cheek weld, and 2 point sling usage.
You're adding an extra step to detaching the controllers, so it'll always be a little slower than if you were using a standard for an equal amount of time.
Versatility range is the same. Basically any game, any weapon with a pistol grip is in range

[icy cobalt]

Then post a card with 4 100 meter plus kills from the last week. Pretty sure I've got one with an m16a2 kicking around.

[thorny glade]

WYM

[deft marsh]

Thanks, I believe the quest 2 version has little tracking issues due to the frame of the gun stock being so slim

[remote tiger]

If u went to the store and paid for something and then you had to spend much time debugging and trying different things it doesn’t work like the directions said it would I would be a bit upset and consider that not working as intended. Will it work yes but it doesn’t work how it was intended to work.

I expect when I buy something that it works if I follow the directions. Aka from the game itself not a thread users had to make. It don’t bother me bc I understand it’s a alpha or beta or whatever so idc but to call it 100% working is not correct in my eyes. Either way we can both agree that it has a long way to go before people stop having issues with it just yesterdya I got filliment run out sensors that are supposed to be plug and play. Directly from the r supplier creality. This is the 2nd product that was supposed to be plug and play and it didn’t work as intended. Their official software was bugged. Anyways I wasn’t springing any longer on it and classified it as doesn’t work as Intended and returned it

[icy cobalt]

Any other questions I can answer for you?

[deft marsh]

Is there any flex or wobble in the gunstock, my current gunstock wobbles and creaks like my arthritic grandmother

[icy cobalt]

I have a rebuttal to that, but I think it's best done in video clip.

Stock calibration is broken, but any decent stock should still accommodate play.

[radiant epoch]

They should have calibration for each individual gun. Will it take longer to calibrate, sure. Is that longer time worth it for a more accurate experience, yes.

[royal wagon]

That will come eventually

But right now if you calibrate for an m4 with a foregrip you’ll get 3/4 of the AR guns

All 556 with foregrip guns, tapco sks with foregrip, ak alpha, M1SASS

If you calibrate for akm you’ll get sks and most guns without a foregrip

[icy cobalt]

Short answer is no.

[radiant epoch]

I know all this from hours of trouble shooting this isn’t new. Also isn’t a solution.

[deft marsh]

Thanks, I'm probably going to purchase one soon, they main selling point for me is the adjustable cheek weld.

[formal nimbus]

on update of pavlov they added gun calibration to all guns and for each one

[remote tiger]

They gotta fix the saving issues first. Imagine doing all that just to come back and it’s all reverted

[radiant epoch]

True they should do both

[radiant epoch]

Really?

[remote tiger]

Yea Pavlov contractors and onward and prob a few others have good gunstock cal

Espically contractors

[formal nimbus]

not really

[royal wagon]

The saving issues are bugs with the configured interpretation getting reset and so you continue to adjust without realizing the effective changes, the procedure in the pins handles this

[formal nimbus]

the pavlov is very shitty

it change about milimeters the gun

[remote tiger]

Hmm maybe I gotta re try it then

[formal nimbus]

i think that new calibration on pavlov just fucked up my aim

my offhand need to get uper than main one

[remote tiger]

Not just for gunstock cal @royal wagon I’m refering to like stuff dispersing and other bugs. Idk if I would configure every gun and spend a long time on it for thete to be a possible bug in the future

[royal wagon]

If you are worried about possible bugs in the future you might as well uninstall the game

[remote tiger]

That’s not my point

[royal wagon]

Improvise, adapt, overcome

[remote tiger]

I may configure one or 2 that I primarily use my point is at this point in the game I wouldn’t spend a whole lot of time doing every gun

[icy cobalt]

The standard marksman also has that, and I have precisely 0 experience with a protube but they did just release a butstock with the rapidly adjustable cheek weld that they designed in collaboration with Bowk.

[icy cobalt]

I'd add that contractors and the like get away with their calibration because the guns are absolutely stable once you spawn them.
In contractors, last I checked their calibration freaked out if you picked a gun off the ground with any difference in setup from your calibration.

Tabor is pretty unique in that it has guns which change configuration on the fly.

[remote tiger]

Hmmm granted I haven’t played in a few months but when I was doing testing I really didn’t have issues with it freaking out like u mentioned

[icy cobalt]

If I picked up a gun without a foregrip, after calibrating one that did, it'd reliably take a nose dive. Granted, it's been awhile since I played contractors after I got incredibly bored with high level play just being netcode abuse.

[remote tiger]

hmm yea i cant say that ever happeed to me thats quite odd

[potent iron]

Should I fix my gunstock?

[royal wagon]

sounds like a philosophical question only you can answer

[potent iron]

True, ill do it Tomorrow as its wayy too late for me to be doin shiz like that

[buoyant sun]

Any good make shift stocks? I dont wanna play without one and im still waiting a few days to get one to come in

[icy cobalt]

In ascending order of difficulty, shoelace binder, coat hanger (see reviews thread), cardboard, PVC, DIY bowk, DIY anything else (ranked higher purely because I am less familiar).

If you have a 3d printer, I'd do the bowk. I'd still probably do the bowk if you're ok going to your local maker's space (I will literally find one in any city for you. I have done so for many here already).

If that sounds like too much, tell me which you want to do and I'll point you to the resources

[buoyant sun]

Thanks :)

[potent pumice]

wondering if anyone with a tomahawk has found a solution to the just mess that it is in ghosts of tabor, basically havent touched the game since the last couple updates because of it, just curious

[ancient pecan]

How do we feel about sanlaki gunstocks for tabor?

[lethal sinew]

Did you buy they left hand adjustment part skol released yet? I'm hoping that fixed it for most early adopters... I'm just a bit lazy to test it and I got it awhile ago now... Its so tedious

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[lethal sinew]

My first gunstock was a Sanlaki sleek. Works great for other shooters, not so great for Tabor: https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1123529753274634251

(scroll up)

[compact rivet]

Alright

What’s the bets gunstock for Ghosts of Tabor?

[royal wagon]

Magtube is my vote

[brisk junco]

Onyx

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 44

[pure crown]

what’s that

[lethal sinew]

Link to my review of it: #1123529753274634251 message

My vote for best stock for Tabor.

[fathom pecan]

How do you guys find gunstocks in Tabor? I have a sanlaki stock that I haven't really used because even in things like Pavlov it felt kinda clunky trying to detatch controllers to reload/then finding the stock again after using a pistol etc

[lethal sinew]

Scroll up one message above yours.

There's a whole review thread.

I tried a Handful of them in Tabor.

[remote tiger]

@fathom pecan of on quest check out ur dm I sell them for 34.96. It weighs only 9 oz

[lament flame]

protube owners can i see photos/video of your 2 point sling setups. im getting ready to order the new stock and prostraps debaiting ifi should also get a 2 point sling

[icy cobalt]

On a different stock, but a big proponent of 2 points.
Both the vocal protube people here are one point users.

Would a picture of my setup or a chat about 2 points be useful to you?

[lament flame]

well i know real world a gun is heaver then the stock so using a 2 point makes sense in real world

[icy cobalt]

Thinking of the sling purely as a carrying strap will get you to single or 2 point as a matter of preference for how the sling lays.
There's more to it than that.

A modern, properly used 2 point grants additional stability and options.

A 1 points big party trick is freely swapping shoulders, which you can't really do with a protube
@lament flame

Now if you prefer how a 1 point lays so much that you'd prefer it anyways, that's fair enough. But most folks in VR just don't know how to get any benefit from a sling, so they default to a 1 point as the cheapest and easiest to set up.
Half the people actually set their one points up backwards, but that's besides the point.

@royal wagon is of the opposing viewpoint, so he's your 1 point person

[lament flame]

ok its like 8 bucks may just order it to mess around with it

[icy cobalt]

I mean this with love. Do not order protubes 2 point.
You want a modern quick adjust, with no elastic if you want to get all the benefits from a 2 point.

Give me a second.

[icy cobalt]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGPFXD3N budget
https://www.amazon.com/Magpul-Industries-Point-Rifles-Ranger/dp/B00IAD3N6W mid, and you'll have to get your own clash hooks

https://www.vikingtactics.com/product-category/viking-tactics-slings/
https://www.blueforcegear.com/slings/weapon-slings.html top

You don't have to get any of these, but note that these, and basically all the common 2 points, have these features.

1: no elastic
2: no additional length that's not part of the core sling. (Like the elastic attachments on the protube sling)
3: defined area for your shoulder and length adjust on both sides of that area
4: a quick adjust you can move easily, blind, with one hand.

[fathom pecan]

tbh if i ask simple questions about gunstock usage in tabor I dont want DM's trying to sell me a stock 🤷‍♂️

[remote tiger]

I saw that you were asking about where to find them and you were talking ab how urs was clunky. Thought mine might be a good fit my apologies @fathom pecan

I don’t think it was just me either who thought u were trying to find/buy one either. The guy directly below ur post thought so as well. My apologies if this was not the info u were looking for

[icy cobalt]

It sounds like you have a stock that doesn't match your priorities.
If you want maximum freedom, take a look at the freedomstock. But basically, you're in the realm of people who like stocks.
@fathom pecan

[remote tiger]

Lol

[lament flame]

Ok thanks will check this out

[compact harbor]

Can I see a pic of ur gunstock?

[compact harbor]

One of my friend s migtt he be interested

[lethal sinew]

I bought one last week. Got it in the mail, havn't assembled it yet. But he sent me a pic of it here:

gonna put it together in a jiffy

[mystic cape]

Anyone know any gunstocks I can find on Amazon for cheap

[compact harbor]

Is that the one from toxic smoke?

[civic badge]

Cheeseburger

[lethal sinew]

yes

[pure crown]

add revolver

[remote tiger]

@compact harbor yes that is mine. I’ll send you some info to ur dm

@mystic cape I don’t sell on Amazon but I sell on Etsy. I sell for 34.96. I’ll send u some info to ur dm as well!

It turns out I have talked to both of you before! Sent another message to ur dms 🙃

[kind egret]

Is it worth getting a gun stock?

[compact harbor]

Yes

[remote tiger]

I would say yes it reallyyy helps with steadying aim

[latent lichen]

Any good cheap gunstocks?

[remote tiger]

@latent lichen I sell my brand for 34.96. Are you on quest

[latent lichen]

Yeah

[latent lichen]

Yedh

[remote tiger]

Perfect I’ll send you some info to ur dm!

Just sent

[icy cobalt]

Frankly, Amazon is not where you get a good stock.
#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 45

[icy cobalt]

46 #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[kind egret]

Hey can I talk too you in dms ?

[remote tiger]

For sure!

[ivory barn]

Any good brands for rift s ??

[remote tiger]

@ivory barn check some of these out

Click the User gunstock reviews channel

[formal nimbus]

this one look similar to mine

[potent pumice]

yeah it came in a couple days ago, put it on but havent used it yet, i guess ill go see now. Not sure if it'll fix anything tho

[potent pumice]

alright its definitely better but not exact as expected. Game is playable with the stock again

[snow kelp]

Anyone got any suggestions for gunstocks with the index in mind?

[nocturne timber]

can someone help me configure my gunstock in vr bc its broken

[icy cobalt]

48 #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

I use a bowk invert marksman.

[icy cobalt]

Look at the pin and see if it solves it for you

[nocturne timber]

so if it goes up i cant do shit ok ty

[snow sapphire]

Any good gunstock recommendations for rift touch controllers? Only one I found was almost 200 bucks

[steel sphinx]

That’s way overpriced I’ll try to look for one for u

[steel sphinx]

Sorry but I physically can’t find one no matter where I look

[vagrant wave]

What is your budget

[snow sapphire]

Like less than 90 would be great

[vagrant wave]

This one is not the one I have but heard good things about it

It's sanlaki vr

Standard is 79.99

The ones use I'll have to send a link but it is kinda expensive

[icy cobalt]

I'm not familiar with those controllers, but take a look at Bowk. I know he does rift/rift S

[icy cobalt]

@royal wagon you're the one who understands the thing

[vagrant wave]

Damn I forgot about bowk

[astral plover]

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1255963893/kobra-wolverine-dmr-gunstock-with?click_key

Should I get this

[remote tiger]

@astral plover some things to note about this stock. 1 looks are not everything. they charge a premium bc of the looks bc it costs more in filliment. 2 the controler is zip tied into place. as far as performance goes im not sure. a common issue with bottom mounted gunstocks is trackign issues.. this one maybe not bc its up farther. the reviews seem decent so could be good. If you are willing to pay that then it seems decent. if looking for something that is a third of the price of that one send me a dm i sell one for 34.96

[formal nimbus]

tf u going to spend 92 usd just because of looking

intead of doing this humanity crime buy @remote tiger he got a excelent stock i bought one and prob gon have it tomorrow

[icy cobalt]

And?

[royal wagon]

It’s extensively covered in the pin @nocturne timber

Read the pin @nocturne timber, and if you say you have, read it again, this specific issue is specifically covered in detail

[pure crown]

Can you put a sling on it?

[nocturne timber]

Well I am French my English sucks those words are too hard for a French man xD

[remote tiger]

@pure crown yep built into the design are sling mounts that work with most slings

[royal wagon]

Sorry, use google translate

[remote tiger]

ill send you a pic to ur dm

[pure crown]

👍

[nocturne timber]

So I will try to speak if my gun stock is a straight line ( my hands are at the same hight ) I can do something right ?

[remote tiger]

like turn the gun right?

[astral plover]

Ye I’m gonna get his tmrw

[formal nimbus]

yea good choice man

[granite heart]

What’s a good gunstock?

[remote tiger]

what is ur price and system

[formal nimbus]

what is your budget

[astral plover]

Dm this guy

[remote tiger]

@astral plover ty my man

[granite heart]

Less than 100 dollars would be preferable

[formal nimbus]

@remote tiger sell one for 35 usd but @faint wigeon sell one for 94 usd

[remote tiger]

quest?

[formal nimbus]

smoke ship to everywhere

cheesy just to usa

[granite heart]

Yes

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 49

Next one is fifty variations of the same question answered in the last two weeks

[royal wagon]

yes, if your gunstock is non-adjustable you will have to raise the rear hand through gunstock calibration due to the way some of the in-game guns are shaped

[snow sapphire]

Rift is the original oculus headset it's different because the rings are below

[wild ruin]

ProTubeVR sells 2 stocks for Rift CV1 touch controllers. Starter and the MagTube.

[icy cobalt]

Rift, yes. Rift S, yes. Never heard it called a rift touch

[icy cobalt]

So here's an honest opinion. For a headset that old, PVC, print, or cardboard DIY.

The cost of a premium stock would be north of half of the cost of the headset. Save the money and put it to a better stock.

If you need help finding a place with a 3d printer near you, I've got your back.

[faint wigeon]

They are technically called the "Oculus Touch Controllers", however, yeah, I haven't heard them called that in years. If he's searching for "Rift Touch Controller Gunstocks", I wouldn't be surprised if he couldn't find any hits (that combined with this headset being so old)

[wild ruin]

With ProTubeVR if you get a new headset you just buy new cups for the controllers and you can keep using the stock.

[bleak pike]

where do u guys put your mags at the bunker

cuz i want it to be organized but idk how

[snow sapphire]

Its just the controllers I called it that so they could look it up since most people haven't heard of cv1

I just joined the server and I already love this community yall are super cool

[spare lagoon]

random side note as well for WMR, dont get a stock that occludes the rings

[safe solar]

Anyone have a good gunstock for quest 2?

[remote tiger]

@safe solar what is your price range

[safe solar]

Around $120

But when I get paid probs almost $200

[remote tiger]

i would go with the Freedom stock from @faint wigeon

i make one for 34.96 but seeing the higher budget i assume you want some more features

[safe solar]

It’s sold out lol

I just checked it out

[remote tiger]

gotcha
ill check with cheezy and see if he is goin be back in stock soon one sec

[safe solar]

Any other recommendations? And ok

[remote tiger]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

#50

[safe solar]

I might just make my own from a coat hanger, tape and a small coushin😂🤣 untill I can find one I like

[remote tiger]

@safe solar yea i would def recomend doing that to see if you evn like them

[vagrant wave]

Armory 1 wall the first wall you see when you enter the armory

[vagrant wave]

https://skolvr.com/products/tomahawk-vr-gunstock-3in1-transformer

170 if you live in Germany

Round 200 if your in us

[pure crown]

I got that and it never came also didn’t even give me a refund

[pure crown]

How I buy?

[remote tiger]

@pure crown hey man I’ll send you a dm!

[pure crown]

K

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message
Congratulations! 50th person to ask that in the last two weeks.

[icy cobalt]

Hey, if you use that and have found it to be good, wonderful, but I'm pretty sure allot of folks here have not had good experiences with that stock

If you've found it to be good, please leave a review in the reviews thread

[snow sapphire]

I was looking for one this morning and by tonight I made my own with some wood some metal strips and tape

Super secure and works amazing

[pure crown]

Buy a Stock From @remote tiger Good Build and Pretty cheap
You also get a free personalization

If You Want to Spend over 80 bucks i would get this one but still would buy one from @remote tiger
https://www.etsy.com/listing/911983863/3daptive-modus-r-vr-gunstock-quest-2-pro?click_key=de398d185c011475740c31c54903b9bbfdab3b4b%3A911983863&click_sum=99be425d&ref=internal_similar_listing_bot-1&listing_id=911983863&listing_slug=3daptive-modus-r-vr-gunstock-quest-2-pro&variation0=1681189156&variation1=3381107286

[vagrant wave]

Yes I left review I'm the one that also spoke German in there

[gritty fable]

@vagrant wave I agree with your name

[vagrant wave]

Another jojo fan

Gyro one of the best

[gritty fable]

🗣🔥🔥🔥

[kind egret]

Any sellers looking too have there product promoted?

[pure crown]

@remote tiger has a good gunstock

[kind egret]

Yeah I spoke too him yesterday

[pure crown]

@kind egret big fan btw

[kind egret]

🫶

[pure crown]

Can i plssssss play with you

[crude viper]

What gunstock should I buy if I use an index?

[harsh zinc]

Can I guy a purple keycard if anyone

[formal nimbus]

maybe tomorrow they delivery my stock

[formal quiver]

Does anyone have problems for having to mess with the gunstock settings when you switch guns

[icy cobalt]

Nope. Because I move the comb height in real life to match the game.

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Same applies, except you can't use the freedom stock or toxic's.
I use a bowk invert marksman, but there's allot of good index options.

51

[formal quiver]

Comb height?

[final rose]

Does it actually help in game

[lament flame]

yes

[final rose]

Interesting I might have to get me one

[hidden summit]

Does anyone know a lightweight valveindex gunstock mines a lil to heavy for tabor

[royal wagon]

magtube in full carbon is pretty light

[sleek hull]

people that dont use gunstock: 🗿🍷

[narrow imp]

Me when I can’t hit a shot because I don’t have one

[icy cobalt]

Bowk, 220 grams

[icy cobalt]

Comb Height refers to how high the comb sits, again to make sure the shooter's eye is properly aligned. If the shooter's eye is thought of as the back sight, Cast and Comb Height are the left-right, and up-down adjustments made to ensure that the gun will shoot where the shooter is looking when they pull the trigger.

pardon the language, just cp[ied and pasted from google

[icy cobalt]

Hey epic, I thought you were grabbing a protube, not a mamut. The mamut's magnet design means you will get no stability benefit from a 2 point (can't put sheer force on the magnets), so its back to preference on how it lays.

[lament flame]

i have both protube and mamut im testing my protube with mamut magnets on it

i also ordred the new protube stock

[halcyon thorn]

ä

[modest glade]

Modified 3d printed gunstock, now with even functioning headrest, works splendid, ping me for files

btw, it is fully 3d printed and only takes around 20 hours of printing time with a prusa mark 3, with a bambu lab, it is way faster

[formal nimbus]

Bro imagine the pain of having the stock in your country but its stuck at customs

[old storm]

are you gonna go to customs?

[modest glade]

i think he has to, cause it looks like a gun

and it should work like a gun stock, on wich he potentially could put a pistol and it would be way more accurate, but that is just german law

[pure crown]

Just Bought A Gun Stock From @remote tiger

[remote tiger]

@pure crown 🙂 excited are we?

[pure crown]

YES

[remote tiger]

loll yea it makes a huge difference

[icy cobalt]

That's a feature of German law I didn't know. It must be difficult to get shovels then. 😛

[lucid walrus]

dead

[pure crown]

?

[pure crown]

WTF 94💀

[remote tiger]

tbh his is worth that

many others are not

[pure crown]

dont look good for its price tho

if the stock was bigger

[remote tiger]

hes trying to keep it sleak

[pure crown]

oh

[magic tiger]

why are gunstocks so expensive

[remote tiger]

bc many know they can charge ALOT and get away with it.

@magic tiger becuase of this i decided to make a option for users who dont want to spend alot of money on gusntocks. but still offer the same features
I sell them for 34.96 and they have a 5 star average raiting on etsy.
would you like some info ab them?

[magic tiger]

Yeah! I would love to hear some info abt them.

[remote tiger]

for sure! check ur dm!

[pure crown]

I bought from toxic he’s chill and will answer any of your questions

[remote tiger]

🙂 gald i can help

[pure crown]

Is the olen VR gunstock any good for tabor?

[oblique iron]

no gunstock is eadu

easy

[plush current]

Ok uh what the fuck is this little do dad do?

It never came with a string lol

[icy cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/prove-it-veronica-drama-drama-show-us-show-me-gif-23654943

Show us one of those score cards, we'll see who runs out first

[plush current]

Ima abt to test this theory

I’m a master headshoter free hand cracked

I just got my Stock today I’m just trying to find the motivation to get the fuck on tho

Been a bit fucked mentally recently idk why

But I’m trying to figure out what the fuck this little thing is I got this far now

[icy cobalt]

Wish I could help, I don't recognize the stock.

[plush current]

It’s the tabor sponsored one

Looks 3D PRINTED

Oh wtf

Hang on this is like a puzzle lmao what

[icy cobalt]

doesn't help a ton. Did you get one of those istock things? If so, you're on your own. (definitely not my cup of tea as a stock)

[plush current]

I GOT IT WHOOOA

breh it was so fucking simple I feel stupid

[remote tiger]

it looks like i stock

[plush current]

Ye it is

[kindred tartan]

How you linking it? Does it feel solid?

[formal nimbus]

💀💀💀💀💀

How u even going to loot with it

Or reload

[charred flume]

My bois.

I have finally gotten the KobraVR Sidewinder. I am in love. Such a perfect design for Tabor

Went from this chonker:

To this little light weight masterpiece:

Night and day difference

[formal nimbus]

Mannnn im in pain now going crazy

Everyone is getting their stock and im still waiting mine

[plush current]

it feels really good lotting and shit is so easy

[plush current]

there is this slot carved out to fit the wrst bands little tab thing

[thick plinth]

How big of a difference does the gunstock make on ur aim

[icy cobalt]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1899234192 From tonight's stream. 150 meter iron sights first round headshot. There's a reason every competitive scene uses stocks.

[pure crown]

Big difference

[patent pecan]

How yall feel abt virtual stocks

[modest glade]

True

[thick plinth]

Is that a player kill or fenix kill?

[thick plinth]

Nice shot btw

[charred flume]

Not good. Once you get a physical stock, you'll never go back.

[charred flume]

Also my new physical gun stock also helps in close quarters battles keeping my aim quality and quickly moving my hands, acquiring new targets.

With a combination of how good the MP9 is and also the new stock, I went into silo and literally wiped all other 5 players. 2 in one team, 3 on another. Lol. So I give some of that credit to my new stock.

(I never play that well. I'm a 2-3 kill Max on silo guy, maybe 4 on island)

[hidden pecan]

dw bro, i want a stock but i dont have one

[placid vapor]

what stock did you get

[charred flume]

Right here. KobraVR sidewinder. 85 bucks I think. It's from EU, shipping took 2 weeks

[icy cobalt]

Player

[icy cobalt]

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[pure crown]

you broke it

[nocturne cipher]

what gunstock sould i get? iv been looking around but i cant pick one

[mortal parcel]

Bro I have the same stock how did you get the sidewinder to work with GOT?

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

53 If you read that and can't decide, we can talk about what you want from a stock.

[remote tiger]

@nocturne cipher what is ur budget

[charred flume]

As in with the calibration?

[mortal parcel]

Yes like does it actually line up straight for you?

Cause mine is always angled to the right and the guns never line up right

[charred flume]

You gotta trial and error each weapons.

[mortal parcel]

But when you grip with both hands on the gun it actually points straight?

[charred flume]

I usually have two guns I'll run for about 3-5 days and I'll calibrate the AR and SMG to each gun specifically by making an adjustment and then trying it out with the gun on my hip.

Yea it typically does.

[mortal parcel]

Oh ok I see so before you go into a raid you specifically adjust the weapons you’re going to use before hand?

[charred flume]

Exactly.

For me right now it's the MP9 (that one took me forever) and the Galils/AKM

[royal wagon]

check the pinned post for a procedure on getting a reliable calibration from the gunstock calibration tool

[mortal parcel]

Thank you bro

[mortal parcel]

Where can I found that post?

[royal wagon]

check the pins

[mortal parcel]

How?

[mortal parcel]

In announcements?

[charred flume]

Swipe left and look up to the right

[royal wagon]

[mortal parcel]

Thank you

[icy cobalt]

It's kind of gloating, but want to see me adjust mid match for a different gun? 😛

Genuinely believe that any VR stock should have at minimum a way to quickly vertically adjust

[faint wigeon]

Interestingly enough I'm actually relaunching my site today with my new FreedomStock v3.

The main new feature is designed to do exactly that, with what im calling the "Liberty Slide", it allows you to on the fly switch between:

Fully retractable > CQB > Long Range

and all of the in between and back, in seconds.

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExYnNobGFjNnpxbDg4dWd2Z2ZrZTd3aG53azIwdmp2anB6N2xzaHVyeiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/DcBPjrI6ch5mcbZIAh/giphy.gif

[remote tiger]

you love to see it

[nocturne cipher]

100$ currently

[remote tiger]

@nocturne cipher gotchaa so i sell one for 34.96 and ill send you some info to ur dm!

[icy cobalt]

Still undecided? Want to chat about what stocks you're looking at?

[meager patio]

Looks great, just ordered one 💯

[pure crown]

I might buy one for Christmas

[charred flume]

No shade about the other stock creators but I do recommend the kobraVR Sidewinder as it seems to be a top innovator in stock design.

Also how much can you really trust house of Scott heretics? 😘😜

[icy cobalt]

Looking at it, I don't see what it does that Cheesy's doesn't do better.
It's a non adjustable stock with a folding but end.

I realize how that sounds. Just looking for enlightenment

[charred flume]

Okay, if you like cheesy's than go with his! Cheesy's was my second choice anyways.

What I love about the sidewinder is:

A. You can fold the stock to the side for pistol, grenade, and looting ease.
B. The off hand doesn't require any attachment, it just uses your controller clamping it's grip button into a well fitted cup.

Lol this stock has ASMR quality sounds 🤣

[icy cobalt]

Neither are my cup of tea. I'm on a bowk invert marksman. But there's people here constantly looking for advice.

[plush current]

No I didn’t

[icy cobalt]

@charred flume weight?

@faint wigeon reminds me, what's the weight of the new model?

[faint wigeon]

I'm glad you're enjoying your SideWinder, I've heard it's a great stock!

However, I must reject the notion that it's the top innovator in stock designs.

FreedomStock is an evolution to VR gunstocks. It's an actual step away from the norm, and isn't just a variation of the average stock designs on the market. It sits in a league of it's own.

[faint wigeon]

That's a great question lol, I'm not sure. I haven't weighed it but it is significantly smaller that the last model and feels lighter.

[slender prairie]

LETS GOOOOOOOOO

once i finish moving I’ll definitely order

[royal wagon]

<@&951226039890231347> cleanup in isle 3

[chrome ledge]

Snitch

[royal wagon]

i only call out garbage posts, post better

[trail tundra]

Snitch what, don’t break server rules… and don’t act like we wouldn’t see it!

[slender prairie]

That was horrendous

[trail tundra]

Thanks @royal wagon

[icy cobalt]

You just wander into someone else's house, then act offended when You're asked to leave? Get out.

[trail tundra]

This!!!!

[chrome ledge]

Yeah

[royal wagon]

channel topic clearly indicates what this channel is for

maybe its time for you to leave

[trail tundra]

You have been warned keep this gunstock related!

Before you hit enter I suggest you rethink!

[woeful zenith]

Anyone know a good gunstock for tabor that won’t get in the way?

well that’s sounds bad but like that’s comfy

[royal wagon]

ive got 6000 or more hours on a magtube and i think its quite comfy, i can play for many hours in a row and its not a problem

[remote tiger]

@woeful zenith hey man i think i got the one for you check your dm

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message
54 I think.

But as for staying out of the way, that's only partly stock, and allot of sling.

You can go to @royal wagon 's to see a 1 point set to the hip. I recommend a 2 point. There's also 3 points.

Google fu those, and if you have questions on them, or how they lay, let me know. I've played with all 3, and while I took my 3 point apart, I can take pictures of the other 2 easily.

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVdrkvJrJwo

[icy cobalt]

@woeful zenith and cheese is right, there's the no sling, permanently attached option

[woeful zenith]

Okay

Thank you all for the help I appreciate it

[old storm]

sorry did a guy post like his butthole and get mad when it got taken down wht

[remote tiger]

???

is that what happened???

[old storm]

idk

[remote tiger]

LOLL

[old storm]

i saw skin a millisecond before the channel updated tho all im saying

[zinc crow]

Anyone got recommendations for a budget friendly (ish) stock for quest two controllers?

[remote tiger]

@zinc crow gotchu right here i sell mine for 34.96

ill send some info over to ur dm

[zinc crow]

Shit alright I’ll take a look

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

55

[hybrid shore]

got my CRS Mkiii configured...and freaking love it. I've made more kills of bothy players and scavs in the 2 days ive had it than the entire 2 weeks ive been playing the game.

[timid tartan]

love the feet

[lost cipher]

What’s the best gunstock for like less then 75$ I don’t need one just I overaim like I look down the iron sights on the end of the gun on accident a lot

[icy lance]

👳🏿‍♂️

[harsh zinc]

Anyone selling stuff

[faint wigeon]

Yezzir, only the most versatile and dynamic VR gunstock ever made!

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVdrkvJrJwo

[faint wigeon]

@remote tiger has a great stock in your price range!

[harsh zinc]

In game

[wild ruin]

Wrong channel for that

[harsh zinc]

What channel ?

[wild ruin]

:shrug: not this one

[final citrus]

Does anyone here own the Wrist Angle Ajustment for Tomahawk VR Gunstock 3in1 Transformer

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 56

[brisk hollow]

@icy cobalt Would the bowk vr cups be interchangeable to the Quest 3 remotes when they release?

[icy cobalt]

@acoustic spoke pardon the ping mate, that's one that I don't know

[icy cobalt]

Based purely on the design, it looks like the cups are interchangeable and you could just grab a new set and keep going. I imagine Bowk will confirm that when he has time, but I don't want to steer you wrong.

[remote tiger]

Hey man I sell mine for quest 2 for 34.96 I’ll send some info to ur dm!

[next bear]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[gusty elm]

https://clips.twitch.tv/ObedientBrightButterNononoCat-kM777bV4c7G-aCGX

The stock I run ^

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVdrkvJrJwo

[grand igloo]

Anyone use Tomohawk Stock?

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 57. We'll all tell you the one we like

[icy cobalt]

@lethal sinew The impression I got was that it's not recommended at the moment.

[next bear]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[faint wigeon]

@remote tiger has a great stock at an affordable price!

[remote tiger]

@next bear thanks cheezy! Hey simply I sell one for quest 2 for 34.96. I’ll send some info to ur dm!

[icy cobalt]

Did you read the link mate?

[lethal sinew]

Yep. What Lightwolf said. It's not good for tabor. Bit front heavy and installation can be a pain. Thread here: https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1118901558944473179 It's not for everyone... Very non-adjustable on the butt stock or even the hand placement.

[tawdry mauve]

Anyone know a good 3d printable stock

[lucid walrus]

"redefining" this shit has already been made

[lucid walrus]

sanlaki gunstock

[lucid walrus]

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1488169248/gunface-vr-magnetic-split-gunstock?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=gunstock&ref=sc_gallery-1-2&plkey=45602a7b2a8896339f0c224a5de5684e24234cf7%3A1488169248

[formal nimbus]

im gonna say a thing but i can be wrong

but gunface stock dont seems to be good

[lucid walrus]

ye the design is shit but still

[lucid walrus]

^

[formal nimbus]

i saw persons saying the magnets are weak and the face part u put on quest let a black liquid like it melted

[faint wigeon]

Haha yeah no, the only similarity is a middle break with the magnet. Have you ever looked at my stock? It's an entirely different product.

[icy cobalt]

First off, that was listed on august 16th. Second that design has 0 commonality past middle magnet

[icy cobalt]

Third, what's with the attitude? Freedomstock isn't my cup of tea, but it has its place, and you don't just walk into a new place and start calling names.

[icy cobalt]

Check the reviews thread, but Bowk has STLs available for free, and would be my vote.

[lucid walrus]

wasnt uploaded today

seen it atleast a week ago

[icy cobalt]

And when exactly do you think Cheesy started selling his?

[charred flume]

Lol it requires magnets. Sanlaki also is a bad stock for GOT.

[charred flume]

This is helluva stretch saying it's close to cheesy's design. Middle magnet only thing the same.

[faint wigeon]

Looks like Gun Face has been around since mid 2022, at least. I've been selling FreedomStock since May 2023.

Prior to about 2 months ago I had never heard of GunFace. But regardless, totally different product.

We both have a middle magnet but that's the only similaritys.

Cars and Motorcycles both have wheels, and achieve a similar purpose, but you wouldn't call them the same thing lol.

[charred flume]

Yea freedom stock's design is definitely very unique. It's rather ironic calling his similar to other designs seeing as his is arguably one of the most different designs from the past 2-3 years of stock ideas

[vagrant wave]

The one I like is tomahawk 3 in 1 gun stock

[remote tiger]

The functionality of gunface personally is absurd. The last thing I want is something pressing on my headset

[formal nimbus]

the last i want is a melted liquid on headset

[icy cobalt]

Show your 3D printed tomahawk

[remote tiger]

Well it is solid but still itl discolor the headset and put pressure on ur headset.

[peak wind]

What is a good gunstock I could buy ?

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 58

[formal nimbus]

@remote tiger got a 10/10 for 35 usd with free customization

[remote tiger]

@peak wind if looking for a more cost effective stock I do indeed sell for 34.96! If you are looking to spend a little more @faint wigeon sells a good stock for around 90. I’ll send some info to ur dm!

[lucid walrus]

eerrrrm

no self promotion mate

[formal nimbus]

tf man

[vagrant wave]

https://skolvr.com/account/subscribe?token=UlSScLAtYawgFCTnPrMlofAgyiZb92leC8gWHNvUTKaUpXW2U8F5w1OQNM2PlAmQqUFJ5LhiqhmZG5xjC-6RwqM_qdZJ3LmY-7vqxOvhJG4%3D

[icy cobalt]

The dude is asking for one he can 3D print. You're telling him to buy one for 200$ from Germany that doesn't work in GoT.

[vagrant wave]

My bad English is rusty

Works for me in GoT

[royal wagon]

Bourin from protube sent me a new “slides on everything” prototype, it’s kind funny because I had been thinking about ways to discretely make one axis adjustments on the hand mounts

[icy cobalt]

Huh, looks interesting.

[royal wagon]

I thought he was just sending me the new butt and not a full kit with the new rail prototype parts

Lots of adjustments in every dimension, with lots of discrete changes in specific directions that don’t also adjust the horizontal alignment

[icy cobalt]

What's the new weight?

[royal wagon]

And the butt stock is their new static stock 2.0 which is wider

I’m going to have to get the scale, it’s a little heavier than my old trusty one

But not much

my old one is 390g without strap, my scale is a little small to cram it all on

and my ms2 padded is heavier than most

158g just for the ms2 padded sling

new one is 565g without strap

and i havent done anything to optimize it my way

i remove all the wingnuts and put in smaller bolts because i dont need to change those positions much, especially now that i could adjust down the rail without adjusting the mounts themselves

theres my old trusty that ive got a few thousand hours on

[icy wind]

That looks horrible to use. Where do you put your head when You scope in?

[royal wagon]

on the cheek rest like you do a real gun?

thats what you normally do with stocks, getting a cheek weld is like 3/4 of the point

[dense pond]

bust stock for tabor GO

[remote tiger]

@dense pond if asking for the a stock I sell a good one for 34.96 @faint wigeon sells a good one as well for 90

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 59

[pure crown]

I am zooted off the za

[toxic linden]

were in the gunstock chat dummy

[royal wagon]

He’s posting a specific link that responds to a specific question

[icy cobalt]

Did you click the link?

[toxic linden]

Oh no mybad

my bad dawg

also you couldnt be more right

[wicked vine]

Great Stock overall flexibility for Index VR -Please multiple suggestions and why.

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

60. I use a bowk invert marksman. It's accurate, light, and has the best cheek weld I've yet found.

[wicked vine]

you use it for index?

[icy cobalt]

yes

[wicked vine]

How easy is it to go into looting?

[royal wagon]

ive used the magtube ever since the index came out, and im taking the magtube mk2 prototype out for a test drive right now. its especially good at high speed magnetic attachment/removal

i can pop the tube off in milliseconds, its one simple motion, but its not because the design isnt secure, it still holds on and wont come off when you dont want it, its a very clever bit of engineering

[wicked vine]

Mk2 prototype?

[royal wagon]

see the two pictures i posted back a few dozen lines

the top is the new one thats in beta testing, the bottom is the one ive been using for over 4 years specifically with the index, but using protube designs since early 2017

[wicked vine]

how much is the mk2 in usd?

send me the old one lolololol

[royal wagon]

its still in beta, i dont know anything about price changes, im also about to go live talking about stocks and using it in GOT if you want to see more

[wicked vine]

link me

[royal wagon]

just posted in #🎥・creators-videos

[icy cobalt]

You can watch any of my streams and see.

Easy.

[dawn heath]

Welp I gotta redesign my gunstock, apparently I can’t reload certain guns cause my controller hits the stock

[left hornet]

I'm kind of having issues alligning my ingame gun to my gunstock? I'm using the Kobra sidewinder. It seems like most of you guys are also using gunstocks that place the controllers level to eachother, but mine seems to angle the front of the gun like 30 degrees downwards because the ingame hands arent level on the gun. are there some settings im missing? I've fiddled with the angle setting enought to get it straight on while one handing (left side) but the gun snaps down as soon as I two hand it

[pure crown]

Any recommendations for a cheap good gun stock on Amazon?

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

61

To be clear, neither the spine nor the istock are recommended as top tier. If you want cheap, ping Toxic and it'll be better than the istock. Almost anything in the price range will generally outperform the spine.

[pure crown]

Thank you so much

Will the quest 3 controllers work for the quest 2 stocks? Never had one and debating whether I should buy one now or in a little over a month

[livid swallow]

guys does anyone know if the gunstock calibration tab is there for them or not. i do not see it there at all ? im on quest 2 pcvr. i see that everyone else has it but i dont ?

[hallow maple]

I noticed the new stock on the website i didnt know they are coming out with a new one! The magtube is about the best one ever for my index

[royal wagon]

You have to be in safehouse

[wind spade]

Check the pinned messages. Ragesaq has a good explanation in there. Let me know if your still confused after as it took me some time to wrap my head around it

[agile hearth]

@royal wagon how does the protube static stock mk2 feel?

Ordered mine today

[royal wagon]

I like the width on top, cheek welds felt good

[agile hearth]

And the option to change the height of the stock works fine?

Not sure what it's called

[royal wagon]

the slide? yeah, the slide is fantastic

[oak verge]

Do any of the haptic stocks work with this game? Im on a valve index btw

[zinc narwhal]

u explained it so good, i do have the same issues ... hopefully they fix that. I bet u have the issues with smg's.

[remote tiger]

@pure crown i dont sell on amazon i sell on etsy but i sell a quality gunstock for quest 2 for 34.96 ill send some info to ur dm!

[pure crown]

Nah @remote tiger is cheaper and good quality for the price

[royal wagon]

Forcetube integration is in

[oak verge]

Ooh! Native as well or is there a mod for it? Also is it a good gunstock for this game and do u have to adjust for every gun? Im new to the gunstock scene

[royal wagon]

native yes. and depending on the guns you want to do yes you need to adjust your gunstock, but thats why you get an adjustable one so you can just do a snap between positions

[trail bramble]

I ordered the LOpro made by Olen, it's due to arrive tomorrow, I will try it and give my honest review on here, it looks really cool. I'm hoping it functions well

[oak verge]

Ok and the forcetube adjusts easily? Like i could do it mid gun fight while switching weapons? Like from ak to pistol or to loot

[royal wagon]

yes, the protube mag cup design is excellent, and the whole thing is designed for lots of adjustments

you'll get to know how many notches on the center tube you need to adjust for the really narrow weapons

[icy cobalt]

let us know! I have concerns on that design I'll ask about when its in your hands.

[polar jewel]

FYI Olen are thieves, shamelessly used Sanlaki's old free files and now sell it as their own with a few cosmetic tweaks. Their design doesnt allow you to pull the rifle into your chest without the controllers disconnecting like the new Sanlaki does. https://sanlaki.shop/

[brisk hollow]

@icy cobalt how long would it take for the bowk stock to be delivered?

I live in Chicago Illinois

[icy cobalt]

I don't work for bowk, but mine was delivered to Colorado in 2 weeks

[trail bramble]

@icy cobalt will do 👍

[faint wigeon]

I found an interesting gunstock calibration bug. For the most part I really haven't had any issue, but there is one issue that has been happening (on PCVR) and I finally nailed down the cause.

I have my hand offset in game set to 27, everyone's im sure is different, thats just mine. Guns line up as expected based on my calibration. However, whenever I pick up any SMG, the game resets my hand angles so my hands are almost at a 90deg bend pointing up (not just when ADS'ing but when my hands are empty).

But in the settings, it still shows offset is only 27.

The fix is simple, I just change the offset up to 28 and back to 27 and its fixed. But yeah, super weird behavior.

[royal wagon]

yeah, or you can change your main movement hand

[remote tiger]

i thouhgt i was the only one and that i was doing something stupid

[royal wagon]

theres bugs there, ive notified the devs

[faint wigeon]

The movement hand setting is the issue? Interesting, well my years of muscle memory of having my left hand as my movement hand would never allow me to actually play like that lol. So i'll just endure until its eventually fixed.

[royal wagon]

no, theres multiple ways for it to reset the offset developed by either the hand offset or the gunstock calibration

you change it and then change it back, you dont have to scroll down as far

[faint wigeon]

Ahh okay gotchya, my bad I misunderstood. Thats good to know, much faster of a fix.

I dont miss the days of interacting with your wrist pad = hands jump to 90 deg bend lol, the devs have come a long way and ive faith they'll iron this one out as well.

[icy cobalt]

like I said, grave concerns

[brisk hollow]

Ik this isn’t the chat for this but I have been having trouble with hand pitch rotation offset on quest. When I set it to my preferred value then close my settings it sets it back to 0. Anyone know why?

[faint wigeon]

RuhRoh, looks like Olen did literally just rip those free files, makes some very minor changes and start selling it as his own.

[faint wigeon]

Welcome to the current state of Gunstock Calibration in Tabor, there are many people having issues like this. There wont really be a solution at the moment, except to just reset the hand pitch every time you boot up

[brisk hollow]

Preciate it

[wild ruin]

Gunstock community wise, is old news (Sanlaki has been aware for a while)

[faint wigeon]

Well its news to me damnit, so I'm going to pretend to be outraged! 😏 lol

[oak verge]

Anyone use mamut with protube haptic?

[wild ruin]

On the topic of rip offs, ProTubeVR has patents on our designs, to protect against copying and reselling as original designs.
https://www.protubevr.com/en/content/40-patents

[wild ruin]

Yeah definitely not an ideal situation, and since its still around you can tell there's only so much that can be done about it.

[icy cobalt]

mamut not recommended

[oak verge]

Really ?

I want to use the Haptic Stock ForceTube but with the best stick for index pref inverted

[wild ruin]

There's definitely some people that use ForceTube with Mamut, idk if any of them are in this server though.

[faint wigeon]

Very true, and the worst part (in my opinion) is that the average consumer wont know (or probably care) about the design theft. So the Olen guys able to just keep making money off that design.

[wild ruin]

They were mostly on sites designed for anyone to add a storefront to (such as etsy, aliexpress, etc.), and more recently made their own website which is when I really found out about them and the copying.

Anyway yeah definitely grab Sanlaki's stuff he does great work, even makes or made an adapter for ForceTube module

[wild ruin]

Exactly and absolutely. ProTube experienced the same thing from time to time over the years. Someone buying a cheap knock off off some place like Aliexpress, then contact us to fulfill warranty or complaining about crappy print durability

I remember when Machinima was active on Twitch after they came back and they had this amazing VR section called the VR Power Hour in 2018. They had a gunstock that was just a shameless ProTube knock off. The knock off was so good, Bourin actually thought they had a ProTube.

ragesaq knows what I'm talking about. #thosewerethedays

All of us playing Stand Out and watching VRPH.

[icy cobalt]

There have been 5 people here I know of with a mamut. 4, myself included, upgraded to another stock.

[icy cobalt]

I use a Bowk invert marksman for that reason. I'll type something more comprehensive later

[rancid jungle]

Is the tomahawk stock worth getting?

[oak verge]

Ok i look forward to your time, thank you

[gritty maple]

why are sanlaki products so expensive

cuz for the same price as a magtube it looks funny and kind of cheap

like a sanlaki elite is 205 dollars cad and a magtube is 197

whats up with every single gunstock being over the price of 100 dollars even though they are 3d printed

one of those gunstocks are like half the price of a quest 2 😭

[icy cobalt]

per @lethal sinew , no

[remote tiger]

very much so agree with you

[left hornet]

thankyew thankyew 😼 ya my smgs suck even after adjusting

[icy cobalt]

Ok, so here's the problems with the mamut. This isn't a comprehensive list, just the big ones that occur to me at this moment. First, the Index invert mounts are extremely poorly designed. If you want both of your controllers hanging straight down, they have a lateral offset which makes the entire stock off kilter. To combat that you'll either have to rotate the controllers significantly or hang one not vertical.

Next, despite the metal joints, there's enormous wobble in the stock, allot originating from the controller joints and magnet attach. Speaking of the magnets, they're strong enough to jolt the accelerometers in your controller, unpredictably sending your virtual hand across the room. While that can be worked around and you can get used to gently attaching the controllers, it will make you slower than a no magnet system. The lack of sheer resistance also means that you will get no stability benefit from a 2 point sling, and will not be able to crank the stock into your shoulder.

Your sling is also extremely likely to get tangled in the stock, since it is made of snag points. You'll snag your shirt, the sling, and occasionally your headset cable.

The stock is also far heavier than anything else on the market, which has it's pros, but due to the other aspects of the stock you can't use the weight to gain accuracy.

In summary, you're paying 200$ and will get a premium feel, but you'll have wiggle fighting your accuracy, and every other piece of the stock is disappointing.

[icy cobalt]

Hopefully your experience is better than this guy had. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui2DTu7wA5g

[icy cobalt]

In comparison, the Bowk Invert Marksman is only 220 grams, stiff as it needs to be, has incredibly firm attachment, and I can take advantage of a 2 point to get those long shots.

Have I left any questions?

[royal wagon]

its important to note that not everyone has the accelerometer overload problem. ive had 3 sets of CV controlleres and 1 set of DV controllers and only one pair had a mild case of this problem

i dont know what the statistics are like on this, and supposedly redoing the calibration can fix this

i kinda kept forgetting to do it on the CV ones that had that overload issue

oh and i have a new refurb tundra controller, just one, and its fine too

[icy cobalt]

Just reporting the experience I and others here have had with the Mamut. Half the reason I'm here is to steer people away from dumping 200+ on the thing.

[royal wagon]

sure, but its an important thing to note because from what i can tell thats a rare problem. ive not used a mamut so i cant speak to the other issues but i can speak to that

[icy cobalt]

Their magnets are the worst for it. Not knocking the protube or others, but the mamut magnets are quite something.

[royal wagon]

ive seen a lot of magnet designs that arent good, providing no correction against sheer forces which means they dont stay on well

or move around too much

[oak verge]

And it works with the protube haptic piece?

[icy cobalt]

That I can't speak to. It attaches to 18mm, but it doesn't look like the thing is made to be invert mounted in the first place. You'd have to do significant jurry rigging.

Can you articulate why you want the haptic? Increased immersion?

[wild ruin]

Statistically speaking, less than 5% of Index MagTube users experience the imu overload issue on their controllers. And of those a lot are able to mitigate it enough to continue using the MagTube well enough without needing to replace the controllers.

It might seem like a lot because only the people with the issue talk about experiencing an issue. Not the multitude of people without any issue at all. Very few people report having non-issues because no issue is to be expected.

[oak verge]

Because I have the full Bhaptic suit. Might as well get the haptic stock also i stream and it looks great

[wild ruin]

Also, you can easily determine if your controllers have the issue before even testing on a gunstock: https://youtu.be/T9ueES_xml8

[oak verge]

Are you from Protube ?

[wild ruin]

And if you decide to RMA your controllers for the issue, you can record a test similar to this video as evidence. Yes. Hence my name and profile picture.

[oak verge]

I tried dming ya

[trail bramble]

@icy cobalt yeah I've seen that video, hopefully they've improved and not send me it with missing screws 🤣 but I am crafty and will improve on it on my own if I have to. But I will let you know probably tomorrow night how it is

[wild ruin]

Well I can't dm you either 😂 🤷

[oak verge]

Lol 😂 friend request sent

[gritty maple]

what material is the magtube made of

is it 3d printed like every other stock

[royal wagon]

There’s carbon fiber tubes, cast ABS pieces and some printed.

Very few companies can print as well as protube does, their print quality is really incredible

[daring carbon]

What is the "best" gunstock because i have been looking for one everywhere but i cant seem to find one, anyone?

[royal wagon]

Magtube

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 62. Click this link.

[remote tiger]

@daring carbon what is your price point

[vapid basin]

@remote tiger Have you updated your stock recently? Just checking it out now and I see the pics posted on Etsy are different than the ones that were posted through reviews

[naive hinge]

I need a good gun stock any recommendations?

[rancid jungle]

What’s a stock your recommend

[icy cobalt]

63. #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Click the link. I use a bowk marksman, doesn't mean that's what you should too.

[calm vessel]

Buddy, I’ve got the pro tube, I’ve had a sanlaki but about 2 month ago I got a Kobra Side-winder and basically it pisses all over em, sure there’s a waiting list but it’s worth the wait no holders no clumsy magnets No harness, just go look for yourself on YouTube Kobra VR. Don’t waste your money on gunstock’s only to have buyers remorse just check them out.

[wanton delta]

Without trying to explain something that would make me think I’m in math class, what’s the best gunstock for cheap

[zinc narwhal]

I think vrrifles

They are like ~50€

[remote tiger]

@vapid basin yes in fact I did update it about 2 or 3 weeks ago!
Because it’s all technically the quest stock and I dotn sell previously versions I keep it all as one thing!

@wanton delta I sell one for quest 2 for 34.96 send me a dm if ur interested!

@rancid jungle ^

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVdrkvJrJwo

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https://media.giphy.com/media/DcBPjrI6ch5mcbZIAh/giphy.gif

[pure crown]

never used a stock before, do i need to always have it armed like if i wanted to snap a guys neck would i have to put down the stock beforehand

[remote tiger]

@pure crown yes and no . People can use slings to fix that issue. My stock personally and a few others are so light (9oz) that you can leave the back controler in the stock and act like it’s not even there. Loot snap necks use items etc etc

[pure crown]

thank you

[remote tiger]

Ofc!

[naive hinge]

Sweet thanks I’ll check it out

[pure crown]

how effective is the poor mans gunstock kekw

[faint wigeon]

From what ive heard from users that have used it, going from no stock to even just the poor mans stock, was night and day.

If you cant pick up a real stock but have a coat hanger and some ductape, its worth the effort!

[oak verge]

Can i use the protube haptic stock forcetube with the bowk invert marksman?

[wild ruin]

You can use it with whatever you want. There are multiple mounting points for DIY.

If you want to know if it works natively with Bowk stocks, that's probably more a question for JamesBowk since he's an expert on his designs and would be able to tell you. It looks like some of his buttstocks use a similar mount in method to a connector that goes on a tube, but idk if it is exact size as ForceTube or not or what tube diameter is or anything.

In other words, if Bowk does not have his own adapter for you to use, you'll have to figure that out DIY

[oak verge]

@acoustic spoke can you please chime in. 🙂

Ok I am ordering the haptic stock rn

[wild ruin]

Make sure to fully read the product page. There's information pertaining to when you can expect it to ship out directly below the pictures

[oak verge]

Yeah i saw its a long lead time 😦

[sour fossil]

The Forcetube is a ton of fun in Ghosts and works really well, super smooth integration

[oak verge]

Well ill be able to enjoy it in a few months 👀 says its over a month lead time

[sour fossil]

Ah they've got a longer time to ship it now I see, darn

Honestly it's worth the wait, if immersion is your thing it's a great addition

[oak verge]

Yeah ive had the BHaptics full set up for over a year

[sour fossil]

Very nice! Does it all work with ghosts? (Are we talking the face and arm pieces etc too?)

[oak verge]

Was awesome when it worked with pop with the mod

Yeah i have the full set up. So i dont think the arms or feet work in got

[sour fossil]

Oh yah I read you can feel the wind blowing against you when you fly etc. Doesn't work with Pop anymore? I haven't played Pop a ton since it went free to play

[oak verge]

Which is weird because its supposed to all work 😦

[sour fossil]

Yeah I thought it was too

[oak verge]

Yeah the feeling of flying is crazy with the BHaptic

Also when u land u feel it on ur feet

[sour fossil]

Sounds awesome!

[light oriole]

So version 3 of the freedom stock is out?😎

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/macho-man-randy-savage-wwe-ooohh-yeahhh-gif-12629011

[light oriole]

How would you improve upon version 4? If you make another revision that is

[faint wigeon]

That all just depends on user feedback. I try to make improvements based on what I'm hearing from customers.

[pure crown]

My first iteration of my poormans stock its a million times better than freehand

2 coathangers, cardboard and gorilla tape

[cobalt steeple]

nah wtf, this looks like it would work super good. LMAO

[light oriole]

I’m surprised how many of these hold together

I feel like they would snap in half

[cobalt steeple]

^

[pure crown]

It actually really does i dont know how it comepares to expensive stocks but holy

[pure crown]

Mines pretty solid thanks to loads of tape and cardboars

The only flimsy bits are the coathangers themselves but im working on a wooden version soon

[loud adder]

How much do gunstocks work and should I put together a poor man's stock

[icy cobalt]

Do you want me to tell you that they're how you get accurate, or put up some headshot clips?

[loud adder]

Damn, maybe I do make it

[pure crown]

Yes you should just made mine and its crazy

[pure crown]

This thing is 🤌🤌🤌

[icy cobalt]

Bear in mind, I'm on a premium stock, but any stock is a thousand times better than no stock

[loud adder]

At least I don't need anything else

[loud adder]

I'm tryna get a battery strap

I don't feel like waiting for delivery either

[icy cobalt]

If you decide to upgrade, there's the PVC version, and past that there's 3D printing.
There is a maker's space near you that has a 3D printer (I've found one for every person that said there wasn't).

I've also seen good work done with a refrigerator box.

[vapid basin]

Thank you, I'm going to be sending in my order today. What's your typical delivery window for US orders?

[remote tiger]

Sounds good!!! Typical is once I put in main 2-5 days

I have 3 orders I’m finishing up in the next day or so quite quick!

[vapid basin]

In terms of personalization, is it possible to have a name stamped/engraved or something into it?

[remote tiger]

Yea we can def figure that out for u

Send me a dm and we can discuss

[loud adder]

What.

The

Why does it work so well???

[remote tiger]

Lol

If it works it works

[pure crown]

How does that even work???

[pure crown]

Mines more rifle shaped

[loud adder]

Don't even ask me

[pure crown]

Where do you slot the controllers?

[loud adder]

Top of it

For the right one

[pure crown]

if it works it works

Id recommend tryina a bigger one tho they seem to work a lot better

[formal nimbus]

I sayed to him write my name on it actuallt he did like this
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1132658454167830679/1138096008342020146/image.png

[vocal kestrel]

Own little diy vr gun stock. Made with a cardboard tube from a rug. I can run it like a half stock but the Special thing is the front(black duct tape) is a section with a slit that can compress into itself. Meaning I can adjust the length of it.

[void isle]

Just ordered the Freedomstock V3. Can't wait to try it out once it arrives, should be a significant upgrade over my current stock

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/machoman-gif-13385558

[void isle]

very stoked to run raids with it!🔥

[grizzled canyon]

Is there a learning curve to calibrating stocks? Cause I can’t figure out how to get my protube to calibrate. I do the calibration, but when I grip the front in game, the sight alignment is way off

[royal wagon]

check the pin

[grizzled canyon]

What do you mean? Where is it pinned?

[royal wagon]

in this channel

[grizzled canyon]

I scrolled up, didn’t see a pin. I’m on mobile

[faint wigeon]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[grizzled canyon]

Nvm, found it. Thank you for the help

@royal wagon do you know if they plan to implement front grip calibration? Cause I’m absolutely lost on how to calibrate this thing. Even after reading the directions. So does this mean I need to calibrate my stock for one type of foregrip? Because each foregrip has a different hand placement

[royal wagon]

all foregrips have the same hand placement on the same weapon

most rifles have the same calibration with foregrip

ak109, m4, m1sass, tapco sks, etc are all basically the same

[icy cobalt]

nah, for me at least they all nose down. Not unplayable, but there

[royal wagon]

nose down is from your front hand being too low

gunstock cal can fix that, there might be some slight variances between the two, i can rotate my front cup slightly and fix it

[fossil needle]

Bro I just bought a gunstock and it was $50 and the controllers didn’t even fit and it was for quest 2💀 (I sent it back)

[trail bramble]

It has arrived today, the LoPro by Olen vr, for now I can give you a review of the assembly. All the pieces were accounted for, nothing was broken, everything fits properly together, really snug and tight , magnets are pretty strong, no Wiggle on the controllers as far as I can tell so far, I'm going to Tabor test in a bit , and then I'll share my thoughts on that

[prime crater]

THE ISTOCK GO CRAZY THO

[slender prairie]

just ordered freedomstock v3 I’ll let y’all know how it is once I get my hands on it 🫡 can’t wait

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/stone-cold-steve-austin-beer-bash-drink-beer-drinking-beer-wwe-gif-16765941

[faint wigeon]

This isn't gunstock related, but I'm curious if anyone finds it difficult to locate/grab your pistol on your hip when you have a lvl 2 (or higher) vest?

I used to be able to just reach to my side and grab it no problem but it feels like since last wipe ive gotta be far more precise.

It's not an issue when not wearing a vest, but the vest breaks the line of sight so you can't really see the pistol.

[tidal helm]

I have this issue all the time but with/without the vest

[icy cobalt]

I've been finding myself grabbing attachments on the pistol allot more

[royal wagon]

Yeah, being able to grab the grip on a holstered weapon is problematic

[icy cobalt]

I move the butt of the stock, but point is it does alter the geometry. I'd prefer if gun geometry stayed in one plane regardless of attachments, like the original dude said, but it isn't unplayable

[hearty quartz]

Idk about gunstocks
Can you be quick with them? Like your primary is empty so you throw it and take out your secondary asap
Does that even work with a gunstock? From the looks id say it probably hinders that process by quite a bit

[royal wagon]

doesnt take me any longer with my magtube

flick of the wrist and the stock is gone

[remote tiger]

If ur looking for one that does actually works I sell one for 34.96. Lmk if u wana have a look.

[covert arch]

Anyone know if this is good

[sonic panther]

Should I get a stock?

[faint wigeon]

Being in the gunstock channel, I feel like the consensus here is going to be "should you"? Yes, its a great addition to your headset and can make any VR FPS feel more immersive, so you should consider one.

But it all just comes down to if you feel like you want one, or if you feel it could benefit your aim and improve your own gaming experience.

[sonic panther]

I do feel like I want one but I don’t want to spend lots of money do u have any of them u tho k I could get for not too much?

[faint wigeon]

I sell a premium stock for $90 (w/free shipping) called the FreedomStock ( https://www.freedomstockvr.com/ ).

But if your looking for affordability, then @remote tiger has a great option as well and his is only $34.96

[quartz pumice]

pluh🗣️

[faint wigeon]

What does this mean? lol

[sonic panther]

Idk i kinda want to get one off a website and i definatly can’t spend 90

[faint wigeon]

I believe toxic is also on etsy

[sonic panther]

There is a IStock but idk where I get it

[quartz pumice]

pluh🗣️

[remote tiger]

@sonic panther i sell mine for 34.96.
and sell off of etsy.

[sonic panther]

What are u saying?

[remote tiger]

its somehting a rapper says lol

[quartz pumice]

It's a random word

[sonic panther]

Toxic o friended u can I talk?

[remote tiger]

for sure!

[trail bramble]

When I calibrate my gun stock and then leave the options menu, the grips no longer work and can't pick anything up till I reset the game, anybody else having this issue?

[icy cobalt]

It's known. Go to the market and back

[trail bramble]

Ok cool

I think I got the rifles calibrated. Pretty good but the SMG I can't get to stop pointing straight up in the air

[icy cobalt]

Take a look at the pin and try them out. Don't calibrate by the gun you see in calibration, but by the movements you want your owned guns to make

[trail bramble]

I'll give it a try!

[trail bramble]

I gave up, just packed the gun stock away until they fix the calibration because it's worthless to try to use it in game when you can't pick up an SMG and use it correctly

[icy cobalt]

That's one of my concerns with that style of stock. Any stock should at minimum have a good bit of vertical adjustment.

[trail bramble]

It's not the stock. I've tried it on Pavlov and onward the SMGs are fine on there. It's just this game which is why I bought the stock to play this game with

[raw hawk]

Mine is better

Lol

[royal wagon]

Check the pin, it clearly outlines that the reason you have a gun pointing up is your front hand is too high for the grip position of that gun and it tells you how to correct that

In my opinion non adjustable gunstocks are non starters and this is the reason why

[trail bramble]

Why is it only the SMGs and nothing else?, Everything else lines up fine

[royal wagon]

SMGs are shaped differently

As outlined in the pins, the way you adjust around a gun pointing up on a non adjustable stock is to raise the gun height, left stick up

[trail bramble]

I will try, I got frustrated with it and gave up for now, appreciate the advice. I will try again later 👍

[tidal helm]

How come the price is so high?

I dont see why all these prices are crazily high

[faint wigeon]

Most stocks are definitely priced to high for what they are (3D printed parts and a metal tube). With the exception of the few more higher quality stocks that are metal combined with quality injected molded parts.

The truth is that the VR gunstock market is a small niche market, so people can get away with higher prices more easily.

The price of my stock is reflective of the functionality it offers (which is completely unique to my design), as well as my stock comes with free USPS 2-3 priority shipping included with every order (which is also factored into the price).

If your looking for a great no bullshit stock at an affordable price, @remote tiger has one!

[remote tiger]

@faint wigeon thanks cheezy @tidal helm send me a dm if interested I sell for 34.96

[tidal helm]

ok thanks

[sullen anvil]

I'm going crazy. IT'S BEEN 8 DAYS SINCE I ORDERED THE MAGNI STOCK AND IT HASN'T EVEN SHIPPED

[pure crown]

Guys I just asked iStock how many likes I need for them to send me a gunstock they said 100 could y’all please go like my TikTok video, I’ll send link in dms just dm me

[sullen anvil]

Yeah

Give you it after you pay

[gilded lodge]

Is a gunstock worth it

I feel like it would make movement really clunky and stuff

[spark carbon]

depends on the kind you get

[sullen anvil]

And the game you play it with

[faint wigeon]

Nothing clunky about moving and looting, with a FreedomStock!

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVdrkvJrJwo

[old storm]

😶 i want one

[gilded lodge]

Any one have any recommendations

[old storm]

@gilded lodge

[gilded lodge]

Yo

It's more for pavlov tbh if anyone knows a good one let me know

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/uh-but-wait-nevermind-speechless-gif-5439870

But.. but your in the Tabor server asking Tabor players for stock suggestions.. Pavlov and Tabor are totally opposite games lol.

[wild ruin]

In their semi defense, Pavlov discord doesn't have a channel to talk about gunstocks, so anywhere they could ask in there would be swamped by other talk and not likely seen

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message 65

[coarse prism]

Guys Look at this 🤩

[pure crown]

Should of just bought one from @faint wigeon

[sullen anvil]

That stock seams a lot more competitive

And not for immersion

[sullen anvil]

Magni stock, and olen stocks