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[hollow zinc]

With the front end grip it's literally full two hand stability

[icy cobalt]

I've got enough highlight reels from there.
It's an enjoyable game, but I'm sick of it.

Netcode makes me salty too quickly now.

[topaz parcel]

I tried the alt grip, something felt off so wasn't a fan and went back to magnet

[drifting terrace]

well you just saved me money then.

[topaz parcel]

Yeah, but to be honest I haven't utilized the stock much. Which blows because of the cost

But I really bought it for this game hahaha

[drifting terrace]

the cost got better I think, it used to be more expensive when I bought it

that being said it's great for Zero Caliber

[topaz parcel]

But when running around in onwards range it felt better without the alt grip. I thought it would be better in alt grip form but it was weird. I can't remember why but yeah.

[drifting terrace]

it handles and feels like a real rifle, I know all the muscle memory I had from my time in the infantry allowed me to just get into it like I never left, reloads included

[topaz parcel]

Fact, and that's my issue. I was 11b for 6 years and operated as a sniper

I'm not a fan of the bottom supported stocks

[drifting terrace]

yep, I threw away my Protube for that reason, shit couldn't handle adjustments either, they kept losing adjustment

[icy cobalt]

Y'all looked at the bowk invert marksman then?

[drifting terrace]

especially that fucking buttstock thing it has

[topaz parcel]

Hence why I didn't get the quest 2 cups for my protube

[hollow zinc]

Ditto. Top mount can be an issue as well. Happy to give a trial deal for anyone interested. Dm me if so

[topaz parcel]

Lmao yes exactly

[drifting terrace]

they sent me the new index cups for free but I trashed it long ago

I'm 270 lb and a weightlifter, that protube couldn't handle all this power lmao

[topaz parcel]

Maybe? I'd have to see it again. I looked at a lot of stocks

[topaz parcel]

You should do a video with you using your stock in game, and showing the gameplay too.

[drifting terrace]

I would say, @hollow zinc any chance of adding a bipod later?

[hollow zinc]

I could figure something out

For live gameplay Astreus Live Streams all the time but he doesn't use any of the off hand attachments

[topaz parcel]

That's my old school protube that finds no use now lmao

With its bipod

[drifting terrace]

My wife had me throw it away, total minimalist. But she was right, I never used it anymore

[hollow zinc]

I dropped a few raw videos earlier with me using it but can get some more later

[topaz parcel]

Yeah it's been since the q2 has been out for me. Just sits in the corner

[drifting terrace]

I had one for the Samsung Odyssey, when Protube was just getting started

[hollow zinc]

Best I can do from the Dominican this week https://photos.app.goo.gl/H6oqALRBHBbnfTHN9

I don't really play got at the moment but @drifting terrace suggest I come post here

[icy cobalt]

I'm out of country on shaky net.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to Google image it.

Form factor, same lop as an M4, but rapid vertical adjust on butt and comb.

Headset down, it's got what you like about the vrs, but for less money and you can adjust it.

[hollow zinc]

I can make some demo videos but I'm no good at the game haha

[hollow zinc]

Google image? That's a Google photos link fwiw

[icy cobalt]

Talking to dom about a different thing, sorry mate.

[hollow zinc]

As for this comment, what I might love most about my stock is I can line it up perfectly with mk18 and m4 as well as any other gun. Like if I could screenshot the view when I peek through the nose hole while holding those weapons it's a literal 1:1

Im over selling. Just need more video. Thanks again for the Convo guys. In the end it's all about what works for you. Hoping SpaceC has a good experience for sure

[icy cobalt]

Appreciate your enthusiasm for your product, does you credit

[topaz parcel]

I'll check the one you said lightwolf, and appreciate you working on another option and showing us brandon

[topaz parcel]

Ahhh, nicce

[hollow zinc]

On another topic, I definitely need to meet up with someone here to show me how this game works

Last time I played, I tried to grab a gun after killing an npc, it got stuck in the ground in some bug but a pair of real players were coming for me and it was all I had. I died.

Then I tried to make some ammo and dumped my rounds into a mag loader, they all spilled. I spent 20 minutes trying to pick them back up and then the game crashed haha

[icy cobalt]

Sounds like all of our first experiences. 😛
Game can be a buggy mess.

I'll be back in town in about a week.

[hollow zinc]

Ditto. I'll ping and join for a few rounds. Sounds like fun

[drifting terrace]

@hollow zinc I work nights in the oilfield so I'm only ever playing at night when everyone is asleep

[hollow zinc]

Not a problem. We'll find a time

[ripe rivet]

You definitely learn to embrace and love the jank 😂

[pure crown]

All I got is a istock..

[hollow zinc]

You'll love this https://www.etsy.com/listing/1493962477/ultibrace-bravo-kit-pro-level-vr

I posted a lot about it so scroll up a bit

Dm me for questions

[pure crown]

Gaw damn 60 bucks 😭

[drifting terrace]

you know what game VRS is great for though, Tactical Assault VR, have you played it?

[pure crown]

I'm just tryna figure out why this agat moves all the way back down when they said I can move it up abit to make the stock shorter

[drifting terrace]

60 bucks is cheap for a good stock

I'm here looking at 400 dollar ones two days ago lol

but then again that's the difference between someone who buys an index or pimax vs a quest

and in the process brings down every good VR game like Onward, but that's another topic

[topaz parcel]

I liked onward when it first came out and for a bit after.

Not as much now. I stopped playing awhile back when I felt the tactics went out the window and people just started playing it like cod.

[pure crown]

Still feels tactical I been playing it alot

[topaz parcel]

I have played it, I grabbed it up right after it first came out. I picked up the VRS shortly after that and the calibration in that was Jank too. So it's been a bit lol.

[drifting terrace]

They've ironed out the bugs on that

also recommend you switch to PCVR, totally worth it

[topaz parcel]

I play mostly PCVR, just stream to q2

[topaz parcel]

I'll have to check it back out

I have it natively on the q2 too, but even in the beginning could see some of the differences. Esp with tabor lmao.

[drifting terrace]

I've gone index and never going back, it's crazy when you can go prone and not lose tracking

[crystal dust]

Wana squad up in tabor?

[merry surge]

What in the walking stick is this?

[royal wagon]

bigscreen beyond soooooon

[dry lily]

I got a GPU if anyone wants to trade for it

[fallen gyro]

Guys I gota gunstock but when I hold the gun with my controllers in my gunstock my gun just points down

also why doesnt my game have a calibrate gunstock option

[remote tiger]

Make sure ur in ur bunker

Ik that was an issue last wipe idk if changed

Also don’t use gunstock cal it sucks ASS

[fallen gyro]

wym

it works perfect for me

heres my gunstock ik it doesnt look the best but it works, only problem I have is when I pull my hands out of the gunstock I have to set it down on my bed

then it takes me a few good seconds to get the controllers back in to place, anyone have any ideas of what to do?

[remote tiger]

It seems to be consensus that index users have a lot better luck than quest

I haven’t heard a single quest user that has gotten it to work efficiently without having to spend multiple hours fixing it

[fallen gyro]

im using vive but same thing

[fallen gyro]

rip, atleast quest has so many gunstock options

[remote tiger]

If what you were referring to was with one hand, then adjust your hand pitch, offset setting, under advanced settings that will change the tilt of your one hand

[fallen gyro]

yeah i got it

I just dont know what to do with my mobility issue, it makes it a lot harder to use a gunstock

[fallen gyro]

How would I use a sling on this

[thorny glade]

Should i get the spine vr stock

[royal wagon]

check the pin on my procedure for gunstock calibration, i would imagine being a native openvr device like the index the vive should be usable

[fallen gyro]

i got it

i just need a sling

[compact harbor]

I have it and it works well enough just not with tabor bc of the calibration issues

[thorny glade]

wym calibration issue

[compact harbor]

The calibration in tabor is broken

It doesn’t work

It’s garbage

It points it at the ski

Sky

[thorny glade]

are they gonna fix it?

[fallen gyro]

I think thats a specific problem for quest

my stock on my vive works good

[compact harbor]

Meh it still doesn’t always work on other platforms

It’s over pretty unreliable as of now

[fallen gyro]

works fine for index and vive users 👍

[thorny glade]

oculus quest has known issues for tracking issues

[fallen gyro]

yeah

thats why i like my base stations

[royal wagon]

the issues with gunstock calibration are different than that

non openvr native platforms seem to have weird outcomes after a calibration

bizzare angles after gripping with both hands

[thorny glade]

well im pcvr not native so

[royal wagon]

including pcvr oculus

[thorny glade]

dman

so basically gun stocks for quest are a no go?

[royal wagon]

i didnt say anything remotely close to that

[thorny glade]

lmao💀💀

so once they fixed the callibration, it should work?

[royal wagon]

i mean, you dont need a gunstock calibration to use a gunstock

[thorny glade]

that is true

[royal wagon]

if you have a non adjustable gunstock you are going to run into the limitations of said gunstock rather quickly

[thorny glade]

probably

might just get the freedom vr stock

sad they dont got a return policy though

[round plinth]

You wont want to return the freedom vr stock. It is the best gunstock i ever bought.

[thorny glade]

true ig but i might not like it but idk untill i buy iy

[remote tiger]

@thorny glade i highly doubt that

[thorny glade]

i jus need a lil bit more money

[remote tiger]

i have heard nothing but good things about the freedom stock.

[round plinth]

I was skeptical too but it really is my favorite gun stock. My only regret is not buying it sooner.

[remote tiger]

@faint wigeon has made an incredible product and if you just look at user reviews almost all of them say its so worth it.

[thorny glade]

Yea

how long is the sale lasting cuz i just need a lil bit more

[remote tiger]

hes running a sale?

[thorny glade]

yea 10 dollars off

[remote tiger]

id jump on that

[round plinth]

I would honestly jump on that, i’m very careful with mine but seriously considering buying another just in case my clumsy ass breaks this one lmfao

[thorny glade]

is it not durable or sum

[round plinth]

It is very durable, i’m just an idiot and break things all the time lol

[thorny glade]

ight

[round plinth]

Also I let my little cousins use my VR when they come over and don’t trust them fully lol

[remote tiger]

any stock will break if you hit it on a wall hard enough. unless like carbon fiber or metal. but ofc those will up the prices HUGELY
i tell all of my customers this. if you are hitting walls while playing without a vr gunstock DONT USE ONE. there is a min ammount of space needed for even without one

[thorny glade]

what do you think is the minimum space you need

[remote tiger]

idk about exact space but i would say if you are constantly hitting things when playing i would be careful

[thorny glade]

well thats good cuz i dont really hit anything

[remote tiger]

then you should be fine

[wispy hill]

I can attest to the quality of @hollow zinc stock, I've used it for 7-8 months now and watched as he evolved it to be better and better. I've had several versions of his stock, and they all have been easier to use then any 2 handed gun stock option. There are definitely alot of options and pieces to play with and adjust to give you the perfect fit

Here's some pics of a few of his stocks I owned

[thorny glade]

that seems very complicated

[hollow zinc]

Haha, well some of these pics are from he only had the level one attachments

[wispy hill]

It might seem so, but it's not. It becomes second nature after a while, and if you don't like all the twisting and turning you can keep everything nice and straight. It helps me alot with stabilty, and still being quick to do other stuff like throw nades or pull out a melee weapon since that other hand is free at all times

Yup, the 2nd and 3rd pics are some of the legacy stocks

[thorny glade]

ah alr

[hollow zinc]

I was teasing about the cloth wrap but yes he was using the GS6 which is the predecessor to what I offer now. Still very popular, I might bring it back but same overall concept

It's basically a skeleton of a gun so your controllers don't smash into it as you try to interact with the virtual gun in game. Allows you to handle equipment and transition between weapons without ever having to deal with clips or magnets

Works great. Thanks @wispy hill for kicking so much tail with it in so many games hahaha

[formal nimbus]

Bro why do u guys just compress the texts my god

Im much lazy to read this

[remote tiger]

Lol

[slate swan]

My new gunstock in my opinion it id the best gunstock not the bedrock GOT but is usable

Is*

[fluid radish]

Anyone consider using an airsoft gun for a gunstock?

[royal wagon]

A lot of bulk for no benefit

Low attachment options and flexibility for the needs of a video game

It’s better to have a solution designed to meet the specific needs of the application

[slate swan]

The problems would be the same as a nerf gun where and how are you attaching the controllers

[fluid radish]

I have a 3D printer I can figure something out

[royal wagon]

It’s largely a detrimental experience

[slate swan]

The nerf gunstock the way I figured something out was holding it upside down having the pinky finger in the barrel and trigger guard as in the picture

[slate swan]

Good luck

[long bison]

does any know any cheep gunstocks for beginers

[split jay]

My new favorite accessory is here 🔥🔥

82 ducks

[oak ivy]

Has any one gotten gunstock calibration to work ?

I built a gunstock Out of pvc I can't get calibration to work with it.

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[clever verge]

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[icy cobalt]

You on quest?

[slate swan]

Yes

[icy cobalt]

Remember how your tracking works. If you have the bulk of a nerf gun in between you and the stock, you're going to unpredictably lose tracking.

Since you've got a 3d printer, use it. Spend 5$ getting delrin rods from your local hardware store and make one. STLs available from bowk, thing verse, and a bunch of other places.

Just my .02$

[icy cobalt]

Once you've used it for awhile, we look forward to a review

[slate swan]

I do not have a 3d printer

[split jay]

@icy cobalt Yea for sure. I gotta get a squad and start practicing. I've become trash in my downtime

[slate swan]

I tested the gunstock and works barely

[split jay]

@icy cobalt but this stock is AMAZING for shooters. I absolutely love it.

Im just now posting but I got it yesterday

[icy cobalt]

Only index users, from what I hear

[icy cobalt]

Give me a city. You have a 3d printer, you just didn't know about it. Have you heard of maker's spaces before?

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Pasta ... 6?

[long bison]

Thanks

[sullen anvil]

Should I get the, spine, freedom, or magni stock?

[icy cobalt]

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#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Pasta 7

[sullen anvil]

Hmm

[pure crown]

!wipe

[snow palm]

Is live, go go go!

[jade flicker]

I made one from carton and duct tape. It is modular, and cost me nothing 🙂

[blissful mesa]

We need individual guns to be claibrated anyone else agree?

[thorny glade]

What?

[thorny glade]

Probably not as if you calibrate rifles it’ll calibrate for all of them

[blissful mesa]

I know that's the idea.

I'd rather be able to fine tune individual guns or at least have it as an option. MOST work fine but guns such as the BAR or some SMG's just don't.

Like not have it be default but at least an option.

[dire patrol]

Anyone can recommend me a cheap gunstock?

[faint wigeon]

@remote tiger has a great option for a great price!

[dire patrol]

Oh nice

[remote tiger]

Thanks @faint wigeon yes @dire patrol I sell my stock for 34.96!

[dire patrol]

USD?

[remote tiger]

Yep!

[dire patrol]

Oh sh hold on

You got a link?

[remote tiger]

Yep sent to ur dm!

[unreal sleet]

Any one know a cheap gunstock that’s good

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-alex-engvid-look-above-look-at-the-sky-gif-25961012

[unreal sleet]

Ok what is the web site

[faint wigeon]

@remote tiger send @unreal sleet a DM please lol

[remote tiger]

Gotchu covered! Ty!

[rugged mist]

The best gun stock in my opinion is the I stock

[brave glade]

anyone here using a Rift S with gunstock? if so. do you have controller drift problems too?

[faint wigeon]

I dont know if Rift S has a deadzone calibration option like Quest 2 does, however if not in Tabors settings, you can increase the dead zone for movement which should help combat your stick drift.

[brave glade]

its not stick drift. the entire controller (the hand) starts to float away a bit

i have to wiggle the controller to get it back. its like its truning itself off when its not moving

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-dear-uhoh-uh-oops-gif-22478082

Okay so that would be completely different, maby check #1083899890427502674 and see if thats a broad issue others have been having.

[brave glade]

allright i check there

if i search rift s and gunstock nothing can be found 😄

btw this is a problem in every gasme sofar. i think its the rift s itself and its controllers

thought that maybe someone here has a solution to it

[faint wigeon]

Gotchya, yah if its happening in all games then its your controller. You'll want to look up stick drift solutions online (ive heard contact lens solution helps).

[brave glade]

allright i try that 🙂 ty

[still crater]

Isopropyl alcohol

Or something with a high percentage of alcohol

I've used hand disinfectant, cologne, isopropyl alcohol etc just let it dry after you put some in the controller

[brave glade]

for whatever reason it wasnt drifting for me now.

so i did the calibration and found something.

for assualt rifles it worked but not for the AKM

m4, aku and all others work perfectly. the AKM aims in the air still.

[hollow zinc]

It's about 160 grams or so.

Maybe 170 grams with it.

Probably lighter than that actually. The PSVR2 version in the bravo size with the forearm brace is only 187 and that is substantially heavier than the quest versions. So probably about 150 grams for quest 2 alpha

[brave glade]

ye i cant use the akm wih gunstock. it aims in the air still. M4 the small AK and other assault rifles work great. only AKM is aiming higher

[royal wagon]

Correct, the rift s, quest and quest 2 have similar tracking limitations that can produce this kind of behavior depending upon how you hold it

[brave glade]

and what about the AKM? 😄 since i was able to use the gunstock i found that issue 😄 the AKM aims more in the air. M4, other AK variants work fine

that was after i calibrated assault rifles

[royal wagon]

Did you quit all the way out and go back in?

Look in the pins in this channel for my procedure

[brave glade]

yes

the calibration worked for the M4 and other ak variants but the AKM aims in the air a bit still

[royal wagon]

Anytime you change hand offset or gunstock calibration settings you need to quit all the way out for it to be consistent

[brave glade]

i did that 🙂

[royal wagon]

Well the AKM has a different geometry than the m4 so it won’t point in the same direction

Which way does it point when you have gunstock calibration turned off

[trail bramble]

When hand tracking gets better and they perfect it they'll be no need for gun stocks. You can just hold almost anything or something gun like because they'll be no need for controllers anymore

[royal wagon]

There will still need to be a controller

Well not need, but you will definitely want a controller

Buttons with reliable discrete inputs

[trail bramble]

Sure, but as far as actually gripping a gun, it seems to be where gun stocks fail most of the time

I would like to see some kind of glove controller come out. I think they're in their infancy stage right now

[royal wagon]

You’ll get to experience hand tracking as controller tracking with the quest 3 and see how oculus continues to lower the tracking fidelity bar 🙂

[brave glade]

up

[trail bramble]

That's one of my concerns is I ordered a low pro gun stock but it's made for Oculus 2 and the Oculus 3 controllers have no rings to attach the magnet to

[brave glade]

after calibration still slightly up

[royal wagon]

Ok, sounds like it’s working correctly then

If a gun was pointing up before you made any calibration changes, and you did not make changes to make it point down, it will continue to point up

It doesn’t change the behavior of individual guns, just all guns in that class. The offsets apply to all guns equally

[icy cobalt]

What's the question? It's the general thoughts on the spine that you asked about.

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Pasta 8

[fallen gyro]

anyone know where I can get a decently cheap Vive Headset gunstock?

[still socket]

So is there a way to calibrate offset for second hand on oculus2 . Any time I grab gun with stock I printet it aims a bit up . Hand need to be a bit down as I can see .

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Pasta 9

Read through and tell me how much effort you're willing to put in or what your budget is.

[fallen gyro]

whats pasta 9 mean

nvm

[icy cobalt]

Just my count of how many times I've pasted in the last 2 days

[fallen gyro]

Effort, I can put in a lot. Budget I would like to go under $100

[thorny glade]

whyd you ping me here when i typed it here

[fallen gyro]

click it

[thorny glade]

ohh

[fallen gyro]

In a gunstock the most necessary thing is mobility imo, I want to be able to pick up loot then quickly get back in my gunstock

[thorny glade]

i feel like freedom stock vr has the most mobility

[fallen gyro]

yeah but thats a quest stock

I have a Vive

[thorny glade]

freedom stock doesnt work for vive?

[fallen gyro]

I dont think so, Vive controllers are a bit special. In the bad way.

A protube for vive sounds nice but is pricy

[icy cobalt]

Are we talking "I want the best I can possibly do for 100$", or "I'll spend 100 if I have to"?

[fallen gyro]

kinda both

[thorny glade]

protubve?

[fallen gyro]

idk, Im just 14 so making money can be tricky.

[fallen gyro]

one of these

[thorny glade]

oh

[fallen gyro]

I make like close to $20 every week rn

so about 80$ a month

which isnt bad.

[thorny glade]

what do you do for 20 every week>

wiat how much is the protube

[fallen gyro]

130 euros so like 140 - 150 usd

[thorny glade]

gah damn

well it is carbon fiber at the looks of it

[fallen gyro]

I basically just do chores, I live on a farm. I do anything my parents need done

[thorny glade]

ohh

[fallen gyro]

yeah thats what makes it lightweight

I made my own gunstock but the mobility SUCKS

the gunstocks with haptic feedback are $300+

[icy cobalt]

@sour fossil do you know if they make a diy kit?

[thorny glade]

why would you want that

As in recoil or what

[fallen gyro]

I dont personally

[fallen gyro]

Yes it adds the feeling of a little kickback when firing

[thorny glade]

wouldnt that interfere with the game

[sour fossil]

They have a section of spare parts where you could maybe put something together, their discord has some ideas too: https://www.protubevr.com/en/63-product

[fallen gyro]

yeah probably

[sour fossil]

The recoil interferes a touch with full auto fire but nothing unmanageable

[thorny glade]

ah alr

[fallen gyro]

only thing is I lack creativity

[sour fossil]

Lol me too

[thorny glade]

ngl 300 bucks for that is kinda eh better off getting something else tbh

[icy cobalt]

So lowest cost/best I know of for you would be a DIY bowk marksman. Irish is your magtube guy.

[fallen gyro]

where can i find a bowk

[sour fossil]

Their discord has a channel with some crazy builds, multiple haptics on one stock etc

[icy cobalt]

https://www.bowkvr.com/shop

[fallen gyro]

thank you

[fallen gyro]

50 cal barrett would go CRAZY

[icy cobalt]

He's got STL files and a diy kit you can get.
A trip to the local hardware store, some delrin rods, and you're in business.

I'd go for a bowk marksman.

I'm on a phone in a foreign country or I'd help with trying to piece you a magtube setup

[fallen gyro]

what is a stl file, is that for 3d printers?

[sour fossil]

I think right now only the Forcetube module works with Ghosts, not the pistol one yet

[fallen gyro]

3d printers are crazy expensive

[icy cobalt]

It is. You don't need one if you buy the DIY kit, but it is cheaper to have one.

Considering your age, we could find a maker's space (full machine shop with 3d printers, usually they cost like 30 to access), but then you'd have to go with parents and it gets more difficult.

[sour fossil]

For that I hired Mike Tyson to punch me in the shoulder when I fire it. Luckily I haven't found a Barret yet this wipe

[icy cobalt]

To be clear, I believe all you need for the diy kit is a drill, screwdriver, and the rods.

[fallen gyro]

yeah should be easy I think I have all of that, my dad loves to work with his hands so that will be easy

[brave glade]

would u say protube vr are good gunstocks?

[fallen gyro]

Yeah

Pricy asf tho.

[icy cobalt]

@sour fossil your court. :p

[brave glade]

ye they are pricy 😄

but good that i bought a good one back in the day 😄

need to figure out how to place my controllers for optimal comfort but also so that they are not behind each other so my headset can track both

[thorny glade]

what are some games that makes good use of a gun stock

[icy cobalt]

With a decent stock, any fps.

[thorny glade]

some games dont support gun stocks

[royal wagon]

That’s why you want to get an adjustable stock 🙂

Games don’t need to support stocks, but stocks definitely need to support games

[thorny glade]

finna get the freedom stock vr fr

[brave glade]

a good ingame calibration helps though 😄

i kinda dont understand the calibration in GOT cause my left hand blocks the iron sight. so i cant rly see if its good or not 😄 it says i have to put both controlers into the gunstock 😄

[royal wagon]

I’ve got some good video guides on how you should approach protube gunstock sizing and what I’ve found is the best approach for GOT

[brave glade]

can you send me those vids? 😄

[icy cobalt]

It does, but even then height over bore for optics and irons is always different. You absolutely need adjustability or you'll have to play with only one setup

[royal wagon]

Go type !Magtube on my twitch channel

[brave glade]

twitch name the same as here?

[royal wagon]

Yes

[brave glade]

loool the first video i saw right before i purchased that 😄

like 4 yrs ago

[royal wagon]

That was the last sizing I did until index came out, different controller angles

CV1, vive, quest all used some gunstock config because the cups were designed with the proper offset in mind

You could literally put the Magtube cups on any of those controllers and your gun alignment would be the same

Index controller is shaped quite differently so I had to change it

[brave glade]

so do i understand your video correct. better have the gun above the stock and hold the stock a bit lower?

cause your gun in the video floats on top of the controllers

[royal wagon]

Then I had to change calibration again for GOT, not too much

You want to hold the stock the same way every time

[thorny glade]

the callibration in GOT is terrible

[royal wagon]

The calibration tool is buggy and the guns trigger alignment is a little off

[thorny glade]

do you need to callibrate if you get the freedom vr stock?

[brave glade]

i now saw the twtich clip for GOT. so you have the front angle adjustable mid game? 😄 i kinda tend to accidently angle it mid game 😄

[royal wagon]

If I need to

I usually don’t because I stick to rifles with foregrips

And they are all roughly the same geometry, really minor front cup adjustments to fine tune are the most that’s needed

I did a gunstock calibration in game to bring it back closer for better eye relief on the scopes

[brave glade]

its so complicated 😄

[royal wagon]

Your goal with a physical or virtual calibration is to get a good length of pull for your arm angle, and to bring the gun to the point where when you get a tight cheek weld posture you are naturally looking straight down the sights

Then wherever you look is where you hit

Or at least where you aim, you still have to account for ballistics and angle over bore and such

The game takes care of zeroing automatically, no matter how you stack or alter the optics it points to the right place, clever bit of code that is

[thorny glade]

should you calibrate or not

[final cosmos]

does anybody have any 3d printed gun stocks and if so what woud be the best filiment to use

[fallen gyro]

in ghosts of tabor the calibration is a hit or miss, for quests users it seems to be a little broken but its mostly just adjusting your calibration to your liking

[fallen gyro]

if 3d printers can use carbon fiber thats what I would use

[thorny glade]

ah alr i just dont wanna fuck uo anything since the gun stockim getting has no return policy

[fallen gyro]

freedom has good stocks you should be fine once ghosts of tabor gets the calibration all sorted out

[thorny glade]

thats the one im getting\

will it still work if i dont calibrate it?

[fallen gyro]

I know I was just letting you know my opinion

[fallen gyro]

I think you can still make it work but i believe the calibration is necessary

[thorny glade]

alr ill just wait to get it and hopefully they fix it

[fallen gyro]

carbon fiber is expensive, but is sturdy and lightweight

[fallen gyro]

I would still get it the calibration is mostly fine. Some players say its off

I used it and it seemed completely fine to me I was hitting all my headshots

I dont need a gunstock im good with the virtual one but I want to try one

[thorny glade]

ah alr

[fallen gyro]

I feel like some players say its off because they might be adjusting their offsets wrong

[thorny glade]

what is a good offset?

[fallen gyro]

its specific to everyone, its not a number value. You can move the gun up and down and closer or farther

[thorny glade]

ah alr

[fallen gyro]

personal preference

[thorny glade]

i just bought jsut now bought the stock

[icy cobalt]

Which?

[thorny glade]

freedom stock vr

[icy cobalt]

@faint wigeon time for you to celebrate

[thorny glade]

idk how long the shipping takes on te free shipping

probably like a month lmao

[fallen gyro]

It has "freedom" in the name so its prob in america it will prob be normal shipping times

[thorny glade]

lmao

[formal nimbus]

Celebrate what

[icy cobalt]

Cheesy makes the freedom stock. Freedom stock order happens, cheesy celebrates. We're all happy because we like seeing passion projects succeed.

It's not my kind of stock, but I 100% believe it's allot of people's stock. Plus it's genuine innovation. The market needs that.

[remote tiger]

@thorny glade i wana say that if in the usa cheezys shipping is really fast he offers free priority shipping unless he changed something

[thorny glade]

idk if it was free

[formal nimbus]

Yep it was

[remote tiger]

it is free

[formal nimbus]

Its maybe come to u in 3 or 6 days if for me on brasil to usa priority shipping takes 10 days

[austere pine]

Any stock sellers in here based within UK?

[remote tiger]

possibly i stock? not 100% sure

[thorny glade]

after it was shipped to ups, it takes 2-3 days to delivert

[remote tiger]

thats not bad at all

[icy cobalt]

Closest I've got for you is commonwealth

[cyan vessel]

I ain’t paying all that

[flint epoch]

How do you reload

[cyan vessel]

Front one come out really easy

[flint epoch]

Oh makes sense

[cyan vessel]

Back ones a lot tighter

[fresh badger]

That’s what she said

[flint epoch]

I want to buy one but idk witch one to buy

[remote tiger]

@flint epoch hey man I sell one for 34.96 @faint wigeon has a good one as well for 85$
If interested send me a dm!

[hollow zinc]

Check out Kobra VR. He's UK based

[wicked vine]

Whats the best gunstock for Index?

[wicked vine]

lmfao

[flint epoch]

Witch one in your unbiased opinion is better

[hollow zinc]

I make mine out of Esun Pla Plus. And I think iStock and KobraVR use the same stuff

[hollow zinc]

I make a version for index fwiw

[remote tiger]

If you are willing to pay a higher price Prob the freedom stock @flint epoch. I’m catering to a different market than he is.

[normal grove]

love my protube

[flint epoch]

If I have a couple hundred rn should I buy the freedom stock?

[remote tiger]

If u are willing to spend I would def say go for it. I have heard nothing but good things from his customers

[normal grove]

regular stocks like protube make looting slower

[hollow zinc]

I prefer a cheek weld. And not to need to find the gunstock blind while I'm in VR.

[normal grove]

freedom stock seemed designed for this game

[hollow zinc]

Kobra VR, iStock or my product work really well for looter shooters

[remote tiger]

Yea it’s really good for looter shooters

[normal grove]

cheek weld doesnt work for all guns in this game, so i only use it for a buttpad

[remote tiger]

I agree with @normal grove I have heard from many people that it gets in the way

[hollow zinc]

Versatility is important

[normal grove]

it can for some guns yes

[remote tiger]

I have never once needed a cheek rest. Espically in a looter shooter where you are always moving or doing something. If you camp on a hill a lot then maybe it’s worth it

[flint epoch]

It says the freedom stock is sold out

[remote tiger]

Let me talk with cheezy

[normal grove]

im ads 80% of the time on silo

protube helps do this, but its heavy compared to freedom which leads to fatigue

[remote tiger]

Fair. I personally haven’t ever had a moment where I was like hmm I really wish I had something to rest my cheek. Not saying it def don’t have a use I just personally have never thought it would add to my experience

[normal grove]

yeah cheekpads are mostly used as a 3rd point of contact rather than a resting point for ur head

[remote tiger]

Fair

[normal grove]

so smaller = better

[remote tiger]

@flint epoch just talked to him. He just restocked check again

[hollow zinc]

Folks who are used to actual guns want cheekwelds

[flint epoch]

Oh yup it’s in stock now

[remote tiger]

Perfect!

@hollow zinc possibly. I’ve never had anyone ask ab it but it’s good to have options for users some stocks have it don’t

@hollow zinc how much do u sell urs for

[hollow zinc]

https://www.etsy.com/shop/VirtualArmory

Depends on configuration

[remote tiger]

Gotcha

[flint epoch]

I just bought the freedom stock

[remote tiger]

@flint epoch nice man! Enjoy. I have talked with cheezy and still do and I have never seen anything like the product he has. It would work good for other shooters but I think it really shines in tabor

[flint epoch]

I only really play shooters and have been looking for a gun stock for like two years now

I’m glad I finally bought one

[remote tiger]

It’s like night and day with and without a stock

[old horizon]

where are soem good cads for 3d printed gunstocks?

[remote tiger]

They have plenty on thingiverse!

[old horizon]

and i just search vr gunstock?

[remote tiger]

U on quest?

Just search quest 2 vr gunstock or something like that

[old horizon]

rift S controllers

[remote tiger]

Then replace quest with rift s

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/machoman-gif-13385558

[flint epoch]

Your one the who’s selling them right?

[old horizon]

ok sick, so i see a bunch that have 2 slots, how does having both controllers restricted affect like looting gameplay, or how does that work?

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-gif-10769407

[remote tiger]

For the most part they are not restricted. They slide in and out

Cheezy is very in tune with the memes as you can see

[flint epoch]

Those are amazing memes

[old horizon]

ohh ok so the back one sticks in and the front one just goes in and out as needed

[remote tiger]

Yep! Ima send you a dm @old horizon

[old horizon]

ok cool

[thorny glade]

pretty sure it is

[charred flume]

I bought this one about a year ago and still use it.

Would y'all say that switching to kobravr, freedom stock, or iStock is a huge difference maker? I do well with my stock but it's somewhat slow with reloads and looting. It's heavy too.

Kobravr seems a bit intricate, iStock doesn't have a fixed forward holder so it's just reliant on string tension it seems, and freedomvr is a little expensive and sold out.

[wanton pivot]

What is the best calibration settings for the magni stock pro

[remote tiger]

In my opinion don’t bother with gunstock cal rn it sucks ass. @charred flume I wouldn’t go with I stock I have heard it had trackin issues and has cracked pretty easily. Freedom is a good choice. If ur looking for a more cost effective option I’m rolling out my v3.0.1 in a few days I’ll send the info to ur dm if interested. 34.96

[untold raft]

We are in the UK 👍

[inland plover]

. https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[ancient sable]

Got my first deathless

Deagle

[blissful mesa]

What headset are you using?

[cloud horizon]

you can click on the pfp to see what they use

[icy cobalt]

Pasta bowls served: 11, 12 @flint epoch
There is no best gunstock. As with everything, there's compromises in design that make a stock better or worse at certain tasks.

Some examples of things to consider are:
Ease of use (how much practice it takes to reliably engage the stock)
Speed of engagement (when everything goes perfectly, how quickly can you snap in)
Stiffness
Cheek weld
Adjustability
Durability
Snag points

You need to decide what you want from a gunstock. Then look at the #1123529753274634251 message for a stock that matches you.

All that said, here's 4 common ones and what people like about them.

Bowk: light, stiff, and durable with good, quick vertical adjustment.
Magtube: good magnetic system matched with good stiffness.
Freedom stock: extremely high ease of use and speed of engagement
@remote tiger : a good, usable stock for quest 2 at a third the price of anything else on the market.

Currently there is only one stock I do not recommend, and that is the mamut apto. If you have questions on that we can talk.

There's also DIY stock making. You can choose between fast, good, easy, and cheap. How much work you put in decides how many of those you can have.

[lethal sinew]

Thanks for repping the diy stock still! I recommend you try removing the offhand stuff and try to use it like Gecko does his MaestroVR stock (but with your stock) https://www.twitch.tv/sweatygeckottv/clip/CulturedRealKangarooAsianGlow-rspWyA7nRZYPsK_2

[icy cobalt]

That said, my preference is the bowk invert marksman on index

[inland plover]

thats sweet

[icy cobalt]

There's two points where having a good cheek weld matters that I can think of off the top of my head.
1: adds stability behind magnified optics for better view and long range shots
2: added 4th point of contact for another reference point for snap shots, makes you generally more accurate in the vertical plane.

But to @normal grove s point, if you have one, you absolutely need good, quick vertical adjustment because of how much the right comb height relies on optic and weapon.

[icy cobalt]

Glad to hear it man! What model did you get?

[ancient sable]

Oculus mb for late reply

[blissful mesa]

Ohh okay

[icy cobalt]

Seems that's the way some of the market is moving.

[lethal sinew]

Yeah... contractors/pavlov = static gun setups

New emerging titles like Tabor/Breachers require more lightweight/modular setups.

The DIY build vid I promote is simple enough to test the waters with. Most of the players in Tabor are sub 18 years of age it seems.

[icy cobalt]

I'm hoping that I'll have the available income to trial a few after this contract ends.
I'm bias towards thinking they won't work for my use case, since they go against every classical pillar of long range marksmanship

[static gale]

What do you guys think is the best cheap good gunstock for quest 2

[formal nimbus]

@remote tiger stock

[static gale]

Thanks

[formal nimbus]

Ut vosts 35 usd

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message
Pasta 13

[charred flume]

Yea go ahead!

[remote tiger]

@charred flume sounds good I sent it a little ago check ur message requests

[final cosmos]

ah ok

[charred flume]

@faint wigeon hey man, are you going to be in stock any time soon?

[faint wigeon]

Heya, great question! So I just sold out yesterday unfortunately, however I do plan on having more in stock by next week after I work through my current orders.

You can/should definitely use my "Temporarily Sold Out" form on my site, to sign up and get notified once I have more back in stock!

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

[charred flume]

Thank you!

What's your total price after shipping and handling?

[faint wigeon]

Free 2-3 day priority shipping is included in the price that you see. So it's $85 +tax (which tax is slightly different per state)

[stray basalt]

Look at this homemade with sling

[lunar mason]

Out of what und build that ?

And how do you atatch your controller

@stray basalt

[faint wigeon]

Is that sling made out of electrical tape also? haha, very resourceful

[stray basalt]

https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o i built this and put a sling out of electrical tape

It’s actually really good

[hollow zinc]

The cool thing with having the stock be connected to just one hand is that you have that flexibility by varying the angle you hold your right hand and where you put the butt portion on your shoulder. Same with your off hand, you just move and grab the gun in the virtual space needed and the brace is there to hold you in that position without any need for mechanical adjustment. As long as each gun aligns along the same plane in reference to your main controller it works extremely well. https://www.etsy.com/shop/VirtualArmory

[hallow star]

p90 is completeley busted with gunstock cal

[icy cobalt]

I'm inherently a little skeptical of the concept because it's opposite what I know and have been taught, but I'm willing to give it an honest shot

[flint epoch]

I got the freedom stock

[hollow zinc]

Or any other one handed stock design?

[pure crown]

Whats the best gun stock for ghost of tabor?

[lyric drum]

These ones go hard https://www.3dgear.eu/collections/vr-gun-stocks

Practical? No

Stylish? For sure

[pure crown]

I mean the best one for aimming. I don't care how it looks. I just can't aim with my shaky hands

and works with pico 4

[astral niche]

Lots of interesting modular stocks, i've been using the protube/magtube for the longest time but some of these designs have me thinking

[pure crown]

Ive been looking at the MagTube gunstock

[royal wagon]

magtube is the go to

[pure crown]

I guess ill buy that one 🙂

[astral niche]

It's static, solid for most games

i've had some minor issues with it in this game and some of the br games though

[trail lichen]

Do you use a gunstock? Are you having trouble calibrating since the wipe? Share more details to work towards resolving this bug here: https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1132361839410425926

[royal wagon]

GOT has some rather interesting gun geometry, i had to change my calibration a little bit but since then its been solid

[astral niche]

It's at its best when you can use the same phys calibration for all guns or only use one or two specific ones, it kinda struggles with verticality and left/right adjustments

[pure crown]

magtube vr also supports the pico 4 🙂

[astral niche]

I posted another similar. phys calibration does not work when you have another gun on your chest

[trail lichen]

That’s not what that thread is about but thanks

[astral niche]

also may break grip button after initial calibration, and after the first match start you have to reset it

[pure crown]

Do gunstocks help you aim better?

[astral niche]

If it's adjusted right, yes

it can also mess you up if it's not on point or just slow you down if you're unhooking a lot depending on stock

[pure crown]

Is there a video to help me understand how to get it right?

[trail lichen]

No because the feature is currently fucked in GOT

[astral niche]

A bunch of people have videos on youtube but I dont really recommend it, you have to find what is most comfortable for you, and even then there's a couple good ways to go about it

[royal wagon]

the feature actually works, but it needs front hand adjustments, i messed with it some more and figured out the problem everyone is having

[remote tiger]

@royal wagon I wouldn’t call it “working” it messes highly with other settings. Hand tilt etc. for it to be working I would say it needs to do the one hand reliablly

[pure crown]

I can just use driver 4 vr for that probably

[trail lichen]

Give me 3 days to learn the basics of vr gamedev and I could fix the calibration

[remote tiger]

@pure crown for many users it messes with hand pitch offset

[royal wagon]

yes, that part is buggy, but once you have it all set you quit and reload and you are reliable

[trail lichen]

Honestly such shit that it’s still busted

[remote tiger]

Agreed

[astral niche]

I love stocks but something about the angle just isn't quite comfortable yet

ignoring the bugs that'll just kill the calibration

[trail lichen]

Imagine eating a cake and then the baker walks up and just scrapes all the icing off

Would you still want to eat the cake

Would it still be as good

That’s how it feels to have a broken ass physical gunstock feature in a hardcore vr extraction shooter

[royal wagon]

the gunstock calibration right now only affects the rear hand position, you still need to properly account for your front hands position

[pure crown]

Yo @remote tiger are your stocks better than MAGTUBE?

[astral niche]

ah, that'll do it

[royal wagon]

the angle is just a static 'hand pitch rotation offset' per class of guns

[astral niche]

Yeah, that's a little trippy, makes sense though

[trail lichen]

This has no impact on guns of the same category having different aim angles

[royal wagon]

correct

[astral niche]

i'll just stick to freehanding in this game until it's figured out

[royal wagon]

i mean, magtubes have worked fine since over a year ago

[remote tiger]

Idk ab better but I will say it’s MUCHHHH cheaper. I offer a quality stock that functions as intended without all the bells and whikstles for those who don’t want to spend a fortune I sell mine for 34.96 @pure crown

Whistles

[astral niche]

The greatest advantage I get from magtube is very consistent snaps to ads. If the pitch angle changes depending on weapon and grip I dont see much point

[pure crown]

Thank you for making cheaper gunstocks for people that can't afford higher end ones

[trail lichen]

I want the haptic feedback gunstock

[royal wagon]

i use gunstock calibration to tune the category height and better align the eye relief

[royal wagon]

thats what the middle joint is for

snap it up/down one notch to get the position adjusted

[astral niche]

I'm not adjusting it per weapon, and we both know that joint isn't exactly a precise

[trail lichen]

Mine just does nothing lol. I can calibrate it to any position and when I apply it, the gun reverts back to an identical position

[royal wagon]

its indexed, its extremely precise

[trail lichen]

I’ve even tried calibrating it to point to the sky and no change whatsoever lmao

[royal wagon]

delete your savegame file

[remote tiger]

@pure crown ofc!!!

[astral niche]

Semantics, it's precise the same way a ruler with only inches demarked, but nothing in between, is

[pure crown]

I would have ordered one of yours but I sold my quest 2 months ago

[astral niche]

Not the level of accuracy I would want

[trail lichen]

Will try this next time I play, cba for the next few days cause my fav Rust server is wiping

[remote tiger]

Ahhhh no worries man what did u end up getting instead @pure crown

[royal wagon]

sure, but you dont need an increased accuracy beyond what the magtube index positions offer, i only ever need two positions to handle all of the guns in the game, including grip attachment status

[pure crown]

pico 4. It's not as great as people say. Theres a controller offset on steamvr that makes aimming impossible, The devs are adding a fix for it after 8 months

[royal wagon]

game has been out 4 months

[remote tiger]

@pure crown so ur game don’t have hand tilt offset?

The setting

[pure crown]

It's a headset issue on steamvr. Not game based

[royal wagon]

openvr input emulator could fix this

[remote tiger]

I know but there is a setting in the game that counteracts it

[astral niche]

the difference is enough that I dont see any real advantage other than immersion. It's not helping me with accuracy or muscle memory at that point

I prefer to do the exact same motion over and over, otherwise i'll take the speed of freehanding

[pure crown]

I tried that, It didn't do it for me. So im just waiting for them to send the patch at this point

[royal wagon]

i think you did it wrong

what part did you get stuck at?

[pure crown]

What headset you on rage?

[royal wagon]

index, but i know what your problem is and how to fix it

[pure crown]

Ill try it again

Is it this one ? https://github.com/matzman666/OpenVR-InputEmulator/releases

[royal wagon]

yep

make sure to get the patch or it wont work

[pure crown]

patch?

[royal wagon]

https://github.com/sharkyh20/OpenVR-InputEmulator

matzman666 stopped updating OVRIE like 5 years ago when he went to work on vr stuff full time

steamvr updated some dlls and ovrie stopped working

[pure crown]

Isn't this the same as driver4vr?

[royal wagon]

no

im not sure why you are looking at driver4vr, last i saw they just made a kinect tracking -> hand tracking interface

[remote tiger]

@pure crown I have 2 people who have a similar issue

[royal wagon]

ah. theyh've added some features. that might be an option as well

[snow drift]

Waht does the i stock gunstock look like can someone do me the pic of what it looks like?

[royal wagon]

did you try google

[snow drift]

Me?

[remote tiger]

@snow drift I have heard some issues with the istock. I think it sits too close to the headset and cusses tracking issues

[formal nimbus]

Just buy @remote tiger stock its moooore cheap than i stock and better

[magic briar]

i recommend the kobra vr sidewinder

it folds and the front controller is easily detachable so you can grab loot easy

[noble moth]

Homade 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s actually really easy u can js use pvc

https://youtu.be/BrJFjsLH6Ok

Less than like 10 bucks

Fair enough

Any local hardware stores ?

Damn

[late bone]

B&Q

[noble moth]

^

[late bone]

could try screwfix

or see if b&q deliver

[noble moth]

Same for me I have to drive 30 mins to go to Lowe’s for the shit

Me either

Actually got in a wreck 2 days ago lol

Yeah broke my back

I’m good tho

Oh nah I’m still playing 😂

Damn I fractured my t5 t6 compression fracture

Middle of back

Yeah it wasn’t that bad tho luckily

I was very lucky

We flipped 3 times going very fast

Check your dms

[remote tiger]

@light shuttle hey man i have a stock for that exact reason! i sell mine for 34.96!

[noble moth]

Is there a website ?

[remote tiger]

35 USD
shipping to eu is going to be a bit more expensive @light shuttle @noble moth ill send you both info to ur dm

[formal nimbus]

@light shuttle do u use quest? If yes buy @remote tiger stock

[austere pine]

Anyone use this type of design and vouch for it? I think most seem to prefer the protube upside down type of setup?

[remote tiger]

i have heard that it causes alot of tracking issues

[old horizon]

From what I've heard tracking with these is funky, but also this wontn work once quest 3 comes out if you decide to upgrade

cause quest 3 loses the ring lo

[remote tiger]

thats a good point dababy

[austere pine]

Ah thats a very fair point. Didn’t think of that

[remote tiger]

also thats a quite high price

[old horizon]

there is a cad of that for free lo

[remote tiger]

truuuuu

[austere pine]

Really just looking at local UK options I can get hands on fast lol

[old horizon]

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4538594

[old horizon]

finding a cad option you can have websites print them for dirt cheap

you usually only pay like 30$ total for fillametn time and shipping from a good chunk of websites, but idk how it'd work in the UK

[remote tiger]

dont cheap out on ur filliment when ordering 20-30$ per 1kg is where u wana be

[old horizon]

yeah for something your gonna be throwing around you do want high quality to

[austere pine]

Yeah i dunno. Every time I look at gunstocks I just end up being so indecisive and never making a decision. Months later I’m still here rocking the virtual stock 🙈

[remote tiger]

@austere pine whats ur price point

[austere pine]

~£100 I’d be happy with tbh

[remote tiger]

gotcah i would have recomended cheezys freedom stock but he dont do international

i offer a stock fror quest 2 for 34.96 USD but internatioanl shipping is going to be a little more

[old horizon]

At that price point you can get some good quality, it'd be worth buying from someone here at that point

[remote tiger]

yea he makes a good point with ur budget you can def fidn some decent options

[old horizon]

Have they released specifications for the quest 3 controllers size? cause it looks like a smaller hilt than quest 2? like almost the same as quest1/riftS

[remote tiger]

i have heard that they are not like quest 2

could be wrong but idk

[austere pine]

In a world where amazon deliver same day I’m so impatient 🤣

[remote tiger]

carefull with amazon ones there is alot of garbage on there

[austere pine]

If only I’d have ordered all that time ago

Oh yeah I’m steering clear

[remote tiger]

that and etsy

i personally use etsy but there is alot of garbage on that

in general theer is garbage everywhere lol

[old horizon]

i think pins has some good options

[austere pine]

Half tempted to just bite the bullet and order the magtube tbh

Just a little pricy once you get carbon and add ons

[royal wagon]

do it

[remote tiger]

for your situation i would do it

[austere pine]

They a seller in here? Can’t see where they listed the ghosts of tabor moderator discount 😂

[remote tiger]

i dont think so

only active sellers are me cheezy and one other guy

[austere pine]

Yeah I see you guys putting in work! Hope it’s paying off 👊🏼

[remote tiger]

def is i app it!

[royal wagon]

ive got a code but i dont think theres a discount right now, @wild ruin would know better

[old horizon]

Ohh they have options for Rift S controlelrs but still a little pricey lo

[austere pine]

I’m all ears Jon!

[remote tiger]

oh yea i forgot ab him lol

[royal wagon]

protube makes cups for all controllers

[old horizon]

In terms of stocks that have magnets for controlerrrs pulling them on an off is relitively seamless right?

[royal wagon]

a good design yes

[old horizon]

thoughts on a design like this https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4545149

[royal wagon]

very limited adjustments, shoulder rest is too low, no cheek rest

thats a hard pass from me

actually the shoulder rest looks adjustable, so maybe you can raise it to be a better height. i would be worried about getting the right height and distance

[old horizon]

I can edit the cad and piece toether a better stock, mainly the controller rests

like would the controlers stay in while pulling them on and off the magnets

[royal wagon]

shrug, magnets are weak against sheer forces, i dont see how the magnets on that work

plus, you need some really strong magnets, like, 75lbs pull strength

[old horizon]

hmm ok

I'm tryna find a good cad, and atp might have to make one myself, but idk how the magnets would work and such, if i even do magnets

[royal wagon]

buy nice, cry once is a saying i firmly believe

[old horizon]

The issue is i plan to upgrade my headset within the next 2 months

either too quest3 or index, both ahveing different controllers from my current

[royal wagon]

with protube you just buy the updated cups

cheap upgrade

[old horizon]

o rly?

[lucid rain]

Does anyone have any recommendations for a haptic suit? I wanna get one but haven’t really looked into it

[pure crown]

k I ordered the stock

[lament flame]

anyone here have quest 2 prostraps for sale with the hardware for protube? lol dont really wanna pay 16 for dhl shipping

[icy cobalt]

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message
Pasta 14

[pure crown]

I already ordered the best one that is the best for aimming and quality 🙂

[icy cobalt]

Edit: pardon mate, was breezing through and misread you. Carry on

[royal wagon]

@astral niche he's always like this 🙂

[icy cobalt]

Bull. Anywhere in England there's a hardware store in reach.

[icy cobalt]

Are you quest or index?

[wild ruin]

I've not heard of one but I don't handle that side of things at protube.

https://www.protubevr.com/en/content/6-customer-support

You can ask through here and see what they say.

[icy cobalt]

Pasta 15 #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[pure crown]

Can't they just make it stop going up by setting it lower?

[royal wagon]

the people who are having this problem dont have adjustable gunstocks so they cant move it any lower

[pure crown]

I mean ingame

[icy cobalt]

Which is? That's a bold statement

[royal wagon]

yes

[pure crown]

Protube, Has the best of all worlds!

[icy cobalt]

there are people who agree with you.

[royal wagon]

i updated the pin with my findings. if your gun is pointing upwards its because your front hand is too high up. you can adjust it by changing the height of the gun which will keep the rear at a higher height and change the line between controllers

[pure crown]

I agree with what ive seen about this stock. It's fine for me a user that doesn't like modding and uses for basic stuff

[wispy maple]

Yo guys, huge props to Toxic Smoke. Just got my gunstock from his Etsy shop and everything was there aside from a nut that costs like 2¢, assembly was easy and the video included on the QR code in the package made it easy to understand. Highly suggest DMing him about his stocks.

Literally all you need to put it together is pliers and a wrench

[noble moth]

Same here he is a big help I’ve been texting him he helped me with all of the questions I had very well big props to him I ordered one today looking forward to it !

[fervent lake]

I dont own a 3D printer and i have no idea how Etsy works

[pure crown]

etsy is like ebay but full of crafts

[remote tiger]

@wispy maple thank you so much for the kind words!. I think i gota start just putting the nuts in a bag. I put them in the screws and I think they are falling off

@fervent lake it’s just like Amazon

If interested in a low cost stock send me a dm!

[fervent lake]

For whatever reason my internet is dying because i have a pic of what i made

[remote tiger]

@fervent lake you don’t need a 3d printer if u order mine if that’s what u were saying. I make them and ship to ur door

Gotchaa

[fervent lake]

Whipped this together with spare parts for rn

[noble moth]

@fervent lake it’s definitely worth the purchase, it’s a low cost and very good quality product it’s the best I’ve seen for it’s very cheap price. The stock Is very durable and has very good mobility.

[fervent lake]

I’ll more than likely buy one from you at a later date, the one I made was just to get accustomed to using one

Because i am not paying like $80 like some websites show

[noble moth]

Yeah same prices are outrageous for stocks and this one is the same if not better

[remote tiger]

Glad to hear @fervent lake!

[old horizon]

are there any protubevr promo codes

[charred flume]

I do want this, but I'm from the US and the guy charges like 30$ for shipping and estimated arrival of 1 month. That sucks.

I do think that the kobravr sidewinder appeals a bit more to me than freedom stock marginally but I don't know if I wanna wait 1 month. Thankfully I do still have my old Sanlaki magnet stock to hold me over but still.

[charred flume]

I currently own this. The magnetic locking rings on mine are somewhat low quality. One of mine has cracked and is loose after about 50 hours of use probably.

It's also rather heavy and I don't recommend it for looter shooters. Think about it. That right hand gunna be out holding backpacks etc a lot. It's a few pounds total.

From my research it appears that if you can avoid harsh magnets, you should. Also controller friction cups feel weird and can be somewhat challenging to find while playing. A really intuitive magnet system like freedom stock or a literal half controller holder like the kobravr sidewinder seems to be the way to go on this game.

[old horizon]

Would you consider protube to have harsh magnets?

[golden lake]

lol

[icy cobalt]

You having moments when attaching your controllers messes with your tracking?

[royal wagon]

protube has very strong magnets, iirc its 75lbs pull force

[old horizon]

I dont have one yet

Looking to buy one compatable with Rift S which aren't that common

[icy cobalt]

Fair, have you read my pasta yet?

[old horizon]

yeah

I have the ability to 3d print, but CAD's the work with rift S that are relitively well made and few and far between, and im upgradiung my Rift S to quest 3 when it drops so protube i can just buy new cups ig

[icy cobalt]

Pasta 16 #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

Just in case.
But between the 4 there and the reviews channel in the pasta, that should be quite a few manufacturers to look at.

Otherwise I do think you'll need to just print one. You don't need to own a 3d printer, we can find one near you.

[old horizon]

My school has an abundance of 3d printers

[icy cobalt]

Maker's spaces will be your best friend for tools and printers.

[old horizon]

Honestly i dotn think dropping the large price tag on a protube would be that bad considering how universal and high qual it seems to be so 🤷‍♂️ idk

[golden lake]

if someone could find me a good oculus rift gun stock ill give you a smooch

and they have to be able to deliver to uk

[spring juniper]

Any device of making a gunstock out of card board dm me

[trail bramble]

I use this till my gunstock comes in about 3 weeks, it works to keep your right hand stable and something to press against your shoulder

[random musk]

I use a toilet paper roll

[flint epoch]

I just spent money on one

[flint epoch]

And bought it

[wheat otter]

Gunsrtock Calibration REALLY should be where you gun will be holding it with two hands (with or without grips). Im so tired of calibrating my stock, only to get a grip on my gun and its not too high. That or calbrating it perfectly but a different gun of the same class now shiftf down or up makign it awekward.

[icy cobalt]

Any decent stock will be universal and high quality

[hearty relic]

how much does a gun stock cost

[icy cobalt]

Between nothing and 200, with most of the pre built market between 60-80

[normal grove]

mine was around 120, but im sure you can find an 80$ thats decent

[grim stag]

I don’t want that

[static gale]

Do you guys think this is a good diy gunstock if I don't got the money for a good one right now?

[naive beacon]

Is there a video on how to calibrate my tomahawk stock because i dont get what im doing wrong ?

[static gale]

This

[formal cedar]

the thing with gunstocks is: Does this work for you? Does this make you better at the game you're using it on?

because from my opinion, if you're looking for a cheap DIY stock then go for it, it looks solid

[static gale]

I don't know I've never used a gun stock the reason I wanna get one/make one is I have problems keeping my hands still

[formal cedar]

then this is probably good for you. Biud a BIY stock and try it out before buying one of the big ones like protube or something

[static gale]

They are still while other doing other things but while shooting they get shaky making my aim worse

[formal cedar]

I have free handed in VR for a LONG time but there are a lot of people who swear by gun stocks

[static gale]

Ok im going to be getting the stuff to make this one today

Also thank you 🙂

[formal cedar]

go for it, let me know how it works for you

[static gale]

Will do!

[pure crown]

all these home made gun stocks bro

[formal nimbus]

Do this thing Really works??

[vapid plaza]

I did it

[static gale]

Ik

[vapid plaza]

I have a picture, I killed him. I killed kertek (feel free to correct me on his name)

I don't have a picture of his body, but I have his gun as proof

Ik it isn't his helmet, that's on the mannequin behind me, along with his armor

I feel accomplished

[hollow glen]

Im sorry but it just hurts me hear you call him kertek

HIS NAME IS FUCKING KRTEK

LIKE A MOLE

[jovial jolt]

Im looking for a gunstock that's abt 20-30€ any help?

[formal nimbus]

@remote tiger stock

Dm he or wait he dm u

[jovial jolt]

K

[charred flume]

Yea is there any word on improvements to gunstock calibration. Imo it should be towards the top of their improvement list.

[remote tiger]

Unfortunately I haven’t heard anything

@jovial jolt send me a dm and we can discuss!

[jovial jolt]

I did

[faint vigil]

Does anyone have any tips for DIY Index gun stocks? I have a 3D printer available, but can't find anything decent.

[dire nest]

Does shooting with stocks seem buggy to anyone else?
I got a sanlaki stock that ive used without any issues in onward, mercenaries, and Pavlov. My issue is My non dominant hand (right) likes to drift away and contort.

[remote tiger]

Tracking issue most likely if u can move the rear controler further away from ur headset @dire nest

Oh wait u mentioned non dominant hand

Oh yea controlers thay attach to the bottom of a stock are prone to tracking issues.

If you don’t use the stock does it do the same thing?

[normal grove]

Happens to me when I magnet my closer controller back to my gunstock too aggressively

The controllers closer to you on base station tracking just has more things that can occlude it. (You, your headset, your gunstock, your other controller)

[remote tiger]

That’s why I don’t wana make a stock like that. It’s prone to issues

[gaunt ivy]

Has anyone used the tomahawk 3in1 gunstock from skolvr ?

[dire nest]

Yeah that's what happens. But further hand. If I go too quick my hand will just keep on moving 🤣

It's still playable. But my movements are much slower. And putting things in and on my person is slower. But I can engage with a player from 100 meters with a Mac 10 and kill them so there is that.

[pure crown]

Do I need the sling that comes with the stock?

[formal nimbus]

Nope of u want use it

[winged parcel]

its reccomended to use it as you switch items alot, but never required

[drowsy shuttle]

Recently when im using my stock my gun is always pointed slightly to the right once I grab the gun with my offhand

does anyone know a fix

cause I cant find a yaw tilt in the stock calibration

and It makes the game unplayable with any two handed guns

[royal wagon]

Your gunstock needs a slight adjustment to left/right on the controller mounts

[drowsy shuttle]

do you mean I need to rotate them?

cause they dont go left or right

[royal wagon]

Your quest is having tracking issues because of the angle you hold the controllers in certain guns

[drowsy shuttle]

thing is they are lined up normally in the calibration screen

[royal wagon]

The stock mounted above the controllers isn’t helping either

[royal wagon]

The downside to non adjustable stocks

[drowsy shuttle]

ive got a protube i thought that is adujstable

[royal wagon]

You can, you rotate them slightly

[drowsy shuttle]

ok you meant rotate

[royal wagon]

That has the effect of slightly moving the controller to the left or right

[pure crown]

are gun stocks worth it? they seem hard to work with and manage

[royal wagon]

Good ones are pretty easy to use, so there’s lots of benefits

[noble moth]

I would say they are worth

[tropic ravine]

they are better for games that aren't tabor

[royal wagon]

why do you say that?

that just sounds like the experience you might have without a good gunstock design

[icy cobalt]

Controller type?

[swift basin]

probably index controllers

[faint vigil]

Index Knuckles

[icy cobalt]

Then you have allot of options. More form factors than a quest.

My personal recommendation is a bowk invert marksman, you can find the STLs on the bowk website, and then you just need to go get the rods

[amber heart]

i wanna get one but theyre really expensive

[remote tiger]

Hey man I actually sell them for cheap @amber heart 34.96 I’ll send info to ur dm

[amber heart]

bruh

[remote tiger]

What’s up?

[amber heart]

thats alot lol

[faint wigeon]

Thats actually*** the*** cheapest gunstock on the market. Sounds like you may want to look into a DIY solution.

@lethal sinew has a great poor mans solution
https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[remote tiger]

@amber heart yea they go all the way up to 200+ nowhere will u find one that’s not a diy for cheaper

[formal nimbus]

I just got this i cant do it

[amber heart]

in going to try right now

[formal nimbus]

omg i cut my finger doing this shit

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/be-careful-scott-forrester-fbi-international-take-care-be-safe-gif-26088290

[formal nimbus]

Part 1 done

[charred flume]

I bought a KobraVR sidewinder. It seems so fast and perfect for looter shooters. My Sanlaki has been good to me but it's so damn heavy

[lethal sinew]

safety first... i should've emphasized that in the video lol
Do it at your own risk ig

[formal nimbus]

I just found out super glue dont work

[mystic cape]

If I were to get a gunstock for quest 2 what’s a good stock to get

[formal nimbus]

@remote tiger stock

For o ly 35 u can get one

Bro fr if i kill someone with this

[charred flume]

If you got 80-100$ I recommend kobraVR Sidewinder or freedom stock.

For cheaper, @remote tiger seems to have a solid design

AVOID DIFFICULT TO MANIPULATE MAGNET DESIGNS

[pastel marsh]

fuck, i just realized i have a butt tone of legos and a bunch of thin plates stacked is pretty sturdy

[noble moth]

I alr ordered a stock but I’m abt to make this and see how it works 😭

[amber heart]

its decent tbh

[formal nimbus]

XD bro u got 3 levels of improvised thing being
Level 1 - u see what the person did
Level 2 - ok he tryed
Level 3 - BRO WTF ARE YOU DOING

[bronze crescent]

What the fuck is this

[formal nimbus]

man if u dont know imagine me

[icy cobalt]

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Pasta 17

[bronze crescent]

I’m so damn confused with y’all

[formal nimbus]

I used cardboard to make it more strong

[formal nimbus]

this thing passed to this

to that shit

my dad just entered my room and said wtf are you doing

[noble moth]

YOOO WTF IS THAT 💀💀💀💀

[formal nimbus]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Idk what im doing

[noble moth]

Does it work ?

[formal nimbus]

Dint tested but

It seems very strong

If u dont breath with enough force to brake it XD

[noble moth]

Bru

Wish me luck

[formal nimbus]

Caution to dont cut your finger

[noble moth]

Noted

[formal nimbus]

And makensure to use strong tape not like me

@lethal sinew how muc space from one controller to other one

[drifting shale]

that just looks like something merged inside a trashcan and you took it out

[formal nimbus]

Fr

[lethal sinew]

lol i don't understand the quesiton. Thanks for sharing your cardboard version... it's... special

[formal nimbus]

Like how much far i need to place one cup that a controller to another one

[lethal sinew]

@formal nimbus @noble moth
When you guys finish the failstock, use it like this: https://www.twitch.tv/sweatygeckottv/clip/CulturedRealKangarooAsianGlow-rspWyA7nRZYPsK_2

Forward hand isn't strapped to the "under support" it rests on it

obviously... using your gunstock built.

not the one Gecko uses.

[noble moth]

Hell yeah I was probably going modify it to have both controllers locked in

[eager turtle]

Am I the only one having a glitch fest with the gunstock calibration. Can’t get it to stay set

In the calibration I can’t even grab the gun with both hands. And after I got a good calibration when I test it my gun just aims at the ground.

Noticed another massive issue. When I calibrate on gunstock my hand in game is no longer where my controller is irl. They aren’t in sync anymore with location

[royal wagon]

correct

how big of a change did you make?

[charred flume]

Tbh you gotta calibrate per gun and depending on what grip being used before raiding.

[formal nimbus]

ok i finished my shit and gon say its pretty stable

[noble moth]

Finished

[formal nimbus]

gon test it now

[noble moth]

Same

[formal nimbus]

im going on pavlov

[noble moth]

Wanna run it ?

Same😂

[formal nimbus]

shack?

[noble moth]

Yeah

[formal nimbus]

on going on quest 2 version

[noble moth]

Same

Wanna play @formal nimbus ?

[eager turtle]

Are you talking about during calibration like the height of the hand?

Because I just figured out that’s why my hand isn’t in the same place as my controller

[royal wagon]

yeah you've gotta put your hands in place first

[eager turtle]

Well yea my hand is on my stock when I do it. But when I calibrate it moves my in game hand away from where my controller is. Then when I save it locks it in like that

So whenever I pick up a gun now my hands not calibrated properly to my controller position which makes my gun aim to the ground when I grab it with my other controller

When I put my two controllers next to each other the right hand is like 10 inches infront of the left

[royal wagon]

sounds like you are using the visual aid of the calibration as the true reference, dont do that

just use it as a visual reference for how you are altering how you hold the gun

the gunstock calibration does not alter where your front hand is and how it will affect the guns alignment when you do that

you can only alter where the gun will be on your main hand and what orientation it will have

so if your front hand without gunstock calibration is causing the gun to point up or down, you can only alter the rear controller position to change that line

[noble moth]

Holy shit that hangar stock is actually good asf

[eager turtle]

@royal wagon do you mind if I dm you later to talk about it more? Im hopping off ghosts of tabor but seems like you really know how to set it up well.

So I could definitely use the help if you are willing

[royal wagon]

keep it here please thanks

[eager turtle]

Gotcha, can I tag you next time I’m on to get help

[formal nimbus]

Finally after acut finger and 1 hours of adjuts on it i got it and works very good @noble moth

If u want later we can hop on

[noble moth]

Wtf 😭😭😭

But yeah I’m down my vr charging

[formal nimbus]

Too

[abstract lantern]

would it be better to 3d print a gunstock?

[formal nimbus]

do i even need to say?

[abstract lantern]

sorry i meant rather than buying one

[exotic wasp]

I hope you got a big 3d printer

[formal nimbus]

if u got a decent 3d printer then yes

[abstract lantern]

my friends got one, and i can just print small parts till i get the parts i need

[exotic wasp]

you need to print the gun with the stock

prob not worth the time if you don’t got a decent size printer

[trail bramble]

Remember not to have the physical gun stock and the virtualgunstock option on at the same time. If you're using a physical gun stock, turn off your virtual gun stock. They counteract each other if you don't

[abstract lantern]

who said the gun part needs to be 3d printed, plus if it is 3d printed then screws and glue works

[exotic wasp]

…. what

u don’t need to 3d print them but you asked if you should

[abstract lantern]

i mean like the thing that holds the parts together like a tube

what i meant could be printed is the stock and the grips to put the controllers in

[remote tiger]

@pure crown thanks man!! @abstract lantern send me a message if interested!

[brave glade]

i tested all day today. cant get it to work properly. stock m4 was perfect but as soon as i put a scope on and a grip, its shifted so much that i cant aim.

i think i get back to virtual gunstock 😄

[calm fox]

OK so is it kinda confirmed that gunstocks just aren't working right right now? Spent 20 minutes fine-tuning the calibration of all the guns, go to pick up the MP5 (same gun as I just calibrated directly in SMG mode) and it's not even CLOSE

[remote tiger]

Gunstock cal doesn’t work right

[calm fox]

Yep...it was physical gunstock

Lol

[remote tiger]

I recommend not using gunstock calabration

[calm fox]

But MAH STOCK!!

[royal wagon]

gunstock calibration works, you just need to know how to use it with the limitations it has right now

[calm fox]

I mean if there's a workaround I'm in it

I had it setup a few patches ago and it worked exactly as it was supposed to then

[royal wagon]

it hasnt changed since release

[remote tiger]

Yes it does work but you have to finagle it highly to get it to work. It doesn’t work how it should

[calm fox]

Toxic, your stock looks exactly like a magtube my dude, love it!

[spare lagoon]

generally yes for the price. dont really need a big printer, it just depends on the design

[remote tiger]

Thank you man!!! One note the shoulder part is actually upside down. If u like it better that way no worries!

[calm fox]

Bit confused then, I didn't make any changes until I went to pick up a gun off my actual shelf and it was pointing 30 degrees up from what I had JUST calibrated it as

[royal wagon]

make sure you quit and reload

check the pin on the procedure for a reliable calibration

if its not pointing the way you want time to change it

[calm fox]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....that's probably why 😦

I cri evertim

I most certainly did not quit and reload

[icy cobalt]

Tested with... What?

[remote tiger]

So as I said before can it work yes. Does it work without jumping through hoops / as intended? No