🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[pure crown]

and to a other country?

[remote tiger]

other countries except for canada is around 20 usd. thats not my price thats USPS price through etsy

[pure crown]

so it would cost around 50$ to delivery it to another country?

[remote tiger]

yes

[spare lagoon]

welp, anyone want to test the gunstock calibration to save some of us the effort of standing up

[remote tiger]

is new wipe out

?

[spare lagoon]

yes, just went live

[old storm]

yes

[remote tiger]

good shit lmk how it works!

[pure crown]

finally

New guns?

[spare lagoon]

says nothing about the calibration, but it also ends off with "and more"

[remote tiger]

did they mention that they did improvements to gunstock cal

[spare lagoon]

#1112699122189873254

[remote tiger]

hmmmmmm

[pure crown]

thx

yoo wild update

[noble jungle]

I can't find where my golden guns are

[light shore]

is it usable now?

[spare lagoon]

if no one responds ill test it in an hour

[delicate shale]

its still by gun type only so its pretty much useless unfortunately, for different guns like the sks it doesn't do anything and still gives the broken grip bug that you have to travel to tabor market and back to fix

[remote tiger]

wow thats kinda sucky. did they change naything with it??

[wintry flare]

any idea how to fix gun pointing down with calibration?

hard toget a picture but hands poiht 45 degrees down even with hand pitch tuning, market reload, and calivration

[deep condor]

Looks like hand pitch rotation is still broken.

[delicate shale]

i had to travel to tabor market and back to fix mine, my hands were pointed down at the weirdest angle for no reason after using the calibration tool lol

[delicate shale]

go to tabor market and back, the goto fix for pretty much anything weird lol

[deep condor]

Mine keep resetting each time I load up the game. I can adjust it and it snaps back to how it should but if I load into a new zone (training, market, tutorial) then I have to fix it all over again.

[delicate shale]

quest 2 or pcvr?

[deep condor]

Pcvr

[delicate shale]

ahh i havent tested steamvr or oculus PCVR yet, i've been playing around in standalone so far so i guess i have that to look forward to

[wintry flare]

i did the market reset

[remote tiger]

@deep condor I have had a similar issue not with gunstock cal but with controller tilt. Would always revert when I load the game. It just fixed one day idk.

Does anyone actually think they changed anything with gunstock cal?

[acoustic raptor]

how you spost to reload with gunstock?

[eternal quest]

I dont think they did. My wrists feel broke as ever… guess i gotta go no tomahawk another patch

[mortal parcel]

Has anyone gotten the KobraVR sidewinder to line up correct with this game?

[light shore]

whats it like

[light shore]

rip

[spare lagoon]

....guess i need to try it

[light shore]

ppl saying its still broken

[mortal parcel]

We need to be able to adjust left/ right offset and angles

It’s not a complete calibration

My gun points to the right and this can’t be fixed

They only allow up down in and out

[light shore]

eventually, they seemed to have put the gunstock calibration aside for other things first

yeah, until they make it work good, im just using my controllers

[wintry flare]

My issue is I get it lined up fine. But when I put gun in resting position it thinks my left hand is pointed at my ass and makes me walk backwards

Might change my movement to right joystick. Probably can make it work but dumb af

[eternal quest]

Yeah had to put the stock back in the drawer this patch. Man they have got to get the damn hands right! The only VR game I play with this many hand issues

[wintry flare]

I’m missing all my shots now xD

Think half of that was a bit of latency. Or atleast that’s my copium

[light shore]

yep, works flawless in pavlov, but have always had to use my controllers in this game

[pulsar kayak]

had to change the calibration angle super high to offset whatever is wrong and now my gun springs up every time i let go of the grip

[royal wagon]

Change hand pitch calibration, quit and reload

[light shore]

yeah its just broken, best way to do it is when you calibrate make it 45* lower then what you acually want

[pulsar kayak]

👍

[light shore]

it changes and doesnt save most of the time

[royal wagon]

It does it just has multiple things reset it

[light shore]

right after you change it you quit?

[royal wagon]

Or go to market, depends on if it gets bugged

Seems like when you load in fresh it stays

[tribal crest]

what typa gunstocks yall use?

[long kite]

Mines always been fine

[distant gazelle]

Hey i have a homemade stock its clumby and reloading sucks but i take the contorllers off the magnet to loot is that worth it

To steady my aim on long distance close quarter combat sucks with the stock but i figured long distance is good with it

[royal wagon]

magtube, best on the market imo

[feral talon]

Home made

[eternal quest]

Tomahawk skolvr

[vital gazelle]

Did this update change hang rotation settings or something? I’ve always been able to use my gunstock fine but now no matter what I try the guns aren’t usable with my gunstock I can’t even look down the sights

[deep condor]

I haven't noticed the hand pitch rotation being an worse than before. They were bugged for me pre-wipe, and are bugged for me now.

[icy cobalt]

Bowk.
Winner of fastest gunstock in the last competition, for the doubters of no magnets out there.

[icy cobalt]

You reload. What did you think the answer would be?

All our stocks have ways to attach/detatch rapidly.

[remote tiger]

wait so do u work for Bowk?

[icy cobalt]

Nope, just a big believer, and especially here on Index, I wish greatly someone would have saved me the money of the mamut. I didn't know where to look and got taken by the marketing.

[remote tiger]

Gotcha fair enough

[austere bison]

How's the Bowk compare to thr magtube

[nimble mountain]

what’s the best gunstock for got

i want one so bad but i don’t want to spend hours detaching it

[spare lagoon]

you mean letting it go so it hangs by a sling? you dont really detach or anything to reload,

[icy cobalt]

https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1128608370883055698
We'll all tell you the ones we like. I will tell you a bowk marksman, and if you're on index like me an invert marksman. Decide what you want from the stock.
I ended up on solidity, two point sling usability, solid cheek weld, and on the fly adaptability.

woops, wrong link, here's the reviews thread from here

[potent pumice]

Hey man i also have a tomahawk and im not sure if it's just meor anything but when you ads with the stock is it at a horrible angle to the right with most guns? I find myself having to hold the butt of the stock almost off all the way to the right of my shoulder Edit: nvm didn't see your other chats first, love that the tomahawk is till almost unuasble in tabor

[icy cobalt]

https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1123529753274634251

[icy cobalt]

I've never used a magtube, but here's what I can say. I don't like magnets, because they lead to jerky and jumpy movements. The magtube controller connections look better than a mamut, but I still don't think they look like they'd hold load. I don't like the look of the magtube joints, but I'm told they're no problem.

I have 100% faith in the bowk when I put load on it to get stability for long shots. I don't know if I'd have that faith in a magtube.

@royal wagon is your magtube guy

[sour fossil]

The magtube connections hold fine under load - you've never tried one but you keep saying they don't "look like" they'd work...even when those of us who have one tell you they do

I think the Bowk is an awesome stock too and absolutely has its pros, but magnets that don't hold isn't really an issue with the Magtube

[icy cobalt]

So far every time I've asked that, I got an answer from exactly one person, and I think there's a communication gap here. I'm out of country right now, and bored, hence why I'm here, but I'll try and put my concern into better words.

[sour fossil]

I've said it, I own one. Ragesaq has said it, he owns one. It's not a complaint I've heard about the Magtube in general, so it's odd to me that "looks like" it won't work should be given any weight against direct experience

I also don't follow the "can it hold 5lbs statically" that's not really comparable to dynamic movement with a stock that won't suddenly add 5 lbs

[icy cobalt]

So those are the magtube connections for the index and the quest, ya?

[sour fossil]

The magnet attachment cups are angled/engineered in a way that when you pull back into your shoulder you're pulling the magnet more into the stock, not away/off it

The Quest ones yes. I don't use an Index but looks like it

You can theorise and extrapolate from pictures all you want, but in practice there is no issue with the magnets disconnecting easily

[icy cobalt]

So here's the deal. I'm concerned about 1: Drawing into your shoulder. 2: Cross load from a tight 2 point sling.

[sour fossil]

I have experienced zero issues with either

I am a real life shooter and probably hold my gun a bit too tight (starting on a 12 gauge as a kid didn't do me much favours) and I have no issue

There's things I don't like about, for ex I don't know if the Protube justifies the high price tag compared to other options out thre, but I've tried a ton of stocks and it's held up better than any of them (I'm not overly gentle with them)

But the magnets just haven't been an issue. It's much better designed than the ones that are just relatively flat magnet to magnet connections

[icy cobalt]

Fair enough, then I'll just ping you next time someone questions magtube, until I've got the time and spare cash to go at it scientifically.
I see that, and I see potential for allot of wiggle/flex and long levers attached to wing nut held positions.

The magnets themselves aren't so much my concern in this setup as the ability of the whole setup to be rigid under load.

Rotating controllers is an issue I had with older stocks.

and the first couple stocks I got have left a lasting dislike of that style of joint, perhaps unjustified.

[sour fossil]

There's minimal flex - I've experienced more in some builds with less convections

There are some out there that really don't work well, and the earlier iterations could be terrible, but this is a solid design they've come up with for all the things you list

Rotating controllers, definitely not. They don't budge once you tighten them

One thing I don't like is the method of strap around the actual controller, after a gaming session it tends to slide open my battery covers a bit, which is annoying

Bowk Invert is top of my list to try in future as well 🙂

Cool looking design plus he just seems like a good dude, always nice to support someone who cares about the VR community

[tall patrol]

Do gunstocks not work in tabor? I swear my gun was tilted when using mine

[remote tiger]

Yes and no

Gunstock cal I find to not work at all. They way I made my stock it works for most guns I just gotta tilt my stock differently. It still improves aim and stability

[tall patrol]

So I just gotta feel it out

[remote tiger]

Pretty much.

They def do work but not as good as in contractors where their gunstock cal is working very well

Overall I would say it def is still worth one tho

[tall patrol]

Kinda frustrating tho

But I’ll try and fix it to my liking

[remote tiger]

Oh I totally agree

[icy cobalt]

Well then @sour fossil sounds like we're on the same page then, expect pings at odd hours when I check on this channel and see someone asking questions. 🙂

[remote tiger]

Lol

[silver copper]

Anyone else having problems grabbing guns in armoury after calibration of the gun stock 😭

I can send video proof 😭

[remote tiger]

No proof needed it’s quite busted

People claim it’s doable after spending a while working with it but to me it ain’t worth it

I’m hoping they are working on it. It’s been like this for a while

[icy cobalt]

Go to the market and back. Unless it got more broken while I've been gone, that'll fix it.
Until you calibrate again

[remote tiger]

Oh I misunderstood his issue lol my bad

[silver copper]

Does the calibration go away?

[icy cobalt]

It didn't for me, but I've been gone awhile. I don't know if something changed.

[silver copper]

Okay thanks 😊

[royal wagon]

i redid calibration last night, its a little bit buggy dealing with the different hand offsets and gunstock offsets being reset, but once you get it done if you close the game and reopen you will be fine

Video here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1999321404
Gunstock calibration currently only changes the offsets of the rear hand and can only make vertical changes. It is important to understand how this functionality works so you know how to use it and what results you should expect to achieve.

NOTE: the gun displayed in the calibration system is not representative what your weapon will look like after performing adjustments. Use it as a visual indicator for the changes you are making to the calibration. Make small changes in the calibration and then check how it affects the weapon you want to use and then make additional adjustments as necessary.

If your gun is pointing up/down after doing a gunstock calibration read the following section carefully.

Gunstock calibration performs the following changes to the controller->gun offset
1: gun elevation (move the gun up/down) and distance (move the gun closer or further away) after it sockets into your main firing hand
2: the default gun pitch (angular gun rotation) which will influence where the front of the gun ends up before you grab it with your front hand

Gunstock calibration does not change the following
1: The influence the front hand has on the direction the gun is pointing
2: The front grabbing location for each gun. Different guns have different "geometries" on where your hands attach to the gun and how that affects the guns orientation
3: The left/right "yaw" of your gun, this is due to your controllers being attached in a perfectly straight line and not accounting for the shape of the controller or any hand offsets the game might have.

That means if you have a fixed gunstock that has both of your hands at the same height, the only way you can change the way the gun is being held with both hands is by raising/lowering the height of the gun so your rear hand holds it higher than your front hand. This could mean that certain weapons that you have problems with due to the height of your front hand might not have an adjustment solution that is achievable via gunstock calibration.

I've spent some more time refining my procedure for reliable gunstock calibration and figured out a few oddities in how its bumping into bugs and how it works based on the type of gunstock you have

The Procedure
1: delete your savegame file
2: grab a pistol and adjust your hand pitch rotation to your liking, after this do not change it again. Gunstock calibration sets its own hand pitch rotation per class
3: settings -> enable physical gunstock -> calibrate gunstock -> pick weapon class -> hit calibrate
4: put your guns in your gunstock (important) and make a small number of adjustments, hit both triggers to save
5: check calibration, if you need more adjustments goto #3

Note: adjusting the hand rotation offset or gunstock calibration will yield unstable results until you reboot, make your changes and then quit and reload

[remote tiger]

Good to hear!

[royal wagon]

this procedure bypasses the bugs that can be triggered when modifying gunstocks, hand settings and other things

[faint wigeon]

I just tried the new update, thankfully still no issue with calibration on my setup. However, I gotta say..

Mag palming, oh 🤌 such a much welcomed new feature. Its not perfect but when it works, oh it feels so good lol

[spare lagoon]

what does going to market and back do?

[lethal sinew]

Create a "save" state/call is my guess

[spare lagoon]

was wondering. whenever i adjust my calibration and immedaitely pickup a firearm tis waaaaaay off

[royal wagon]

yep, thats why you go to market and back, it forces a full reload of all the different offsets

[spare lagoon]

just tried (using smg). enabled physical gunstock, positioned the smg where i wanted. put both controllers in gunstock, pressed both triggers. went to market and back. picked up mp5 and its still pointing 45ish degrees towards teh ceiling

[royal wagon]

quit the game and start again

record a vid

[spare lagoon]

and just to be clear, when adjusting (before pressing both triggers) i can leave my leftcontroller out of the gunstock right? it blocks my front sight half the time but want to confirm thats not the issue

[spare lagoon]

will do. thats usually when it works

[turbid blaze]

ah, classic

[royal wagon]

both controllers need to be in your gunstock in position before you pull the triggers, dont worry about the physical model, just use it as a reference for the positional changes you need to make

[spare lagoon]

@royal wagon

[royal wagon]

i suspect you do not have the controllers in the gunstock when making these adjustments

[spare lagoon]

by the time i pull both triggers they are

[royal wagon]

clear calibration and start again

[kind lichen]

Off topic but I might’ve ran into and killed the legendary @faint wigeon in raid. GG’s my guy

[normal grove]

Gunstock Cali seems workable

[royal wagon]

also, delete your savegame file, its stored in there and if its messed up you have issues

[shy notch]

Problem is that you can't grab with your front hand while calibrating so Ingame it's off as soon as you grab the weapon with your off hand

Or do I miss something

[lethal sinew]

Possible solution for issues with local savefiles:

Try deleting save files

• (may) Fix issues with local save file:

Quest standalone:

Go to quest settings -> storage then search for ghosts of Tabor and delete the app data (not the game itself, there is two separate buttons)

Pcvr:

• Windows Key + R
• Copy this into the "Open":
  %localappdata%\GhostsOfTabor\Saved\

Delete following folder:
%localappdata%\GhostsOfTabor\Saved\

Important note:

You might lose your settings, currently active quests and materials in ammo crafter, opened doors and settings (your loot, money and trader progress is stored on the server and will therefore not be deleted)

[spare lagoon]

yea just tried clearing, restarted, same result. trying to clear now

[lethal sinew]

(added it cuz it was suggested by Rage)

[spare lagoon]

same result

[royal wagon]

the safehouse is dark, is the SMG calibration done with the mp5?

[spare lagoon]

yes

tried the ak as well, not as bad but still same

[royal wagon]

so, i think the problem is that you shouldnt look at the position of the gun in the calibration page

clear out the calibration, hold your gun, and think about what kind of adjustment you need

'needs to go down a little, back a little, and til up a little'

go into calibration and make small adjustments that reflect that, ignore the actual position, dont make it accurate, just make those adjustments

[spare lagoon]

gotcha. so if i hold the actual mp5 and its pointing upwards by say 20 degrees from paraell, i go into the calibration, make it point downwards 20 degrees from paraell, then when i pickup the actual mp5 it should be compensated to where it is now at paraell

[royal wagon]

right

think of the gunstock calibration weapon as just a relative 'what shape is the adjustment im making like' thing

and not yet represenatitive of what the gun will be when you hold it

[spare lagoon]

gotcha. well i heard their hiring, might apply just to solely focus on the calibration and then quit

giving a try now, i appreciate the help and suggestions btw

[quiet swan]

Not going to lie I purchased the Spine stock from Olen on July 4th and they just sent me perjected delivery is Augest 5th. I'm just waiting an waiting lol I really hope it was worth it, becuase i could have just got the 2 Day Shipping Amazon Magni Stock.
Anyone have and comments? Have you used Olen Stock and is the Amazon one just as good?

[shy notch]

You guys don't have problems with the off hand?

I can calibrate every gune very well but as soon I grab it with my off hand its messed up

[spare lagoon]

crikey its bad. in order to get it rotated down enough, the muzzle is pointing just above my head. when i grip it with one hand it points at me until i grab it with the offhand which makes it almost close/useable. at that point its adding additional roll for some reason to it as well lol

[royal wagon]

if the position is changing only when you grab it with your offhand its not the gunstock calibration, its your hand rotation offset

position of gun when holding with 1 hand = hand rotation offset
position of gun when holding with 2 hands = gunstock calibration

[spare lagoon]

gotcha. time to research that one

[spare lagoon]

yea adjusting the gunstock calibration pitch affects where my hand goes when i grab it. its like it changes my hand pitch rotation. for example i have the firearm pointing 90 degrees in calibration, when i grab it with one hand the firearm will point 90 degrees until i grab it with the left hand and pull it down. if i make it back to the firearm being paraell with the ground then its the same when i grip it with 1 hand, it doesnt seem to change it. when i set my hand pitch rotation to something like 30 it rotates my hand, but when i grab the firearm it puts it back. tried doing the same process of the to market and quit/reload game and such and it just kept doing the same thing

[royal wagon]

what is your hand pitch rotation?

[spare lagoon]

0 which for everything felt good and very close to my irl hand. pistols worked well. also tried with 30-40 but anytime i would grip the firearm it acts like it would reset it back to 0 or whatever the pitch of the gunstock calibration appeared to be

[faint wigeon]

Haha that's a negative sir, I've yet to die post wipe (for now lol). You must've gotten an imposter Cheesy

[royal wagon]

so it was 0 hand pitch before you did gunstock calibration?

[spare lagoon]

correct. when i first was attempting everything it was 0. after you mentioned the hand rotation offset i tried it all again but utilizing that as well

[royal wagon]

so with your hand rotation offset when you hold a gun in your stock is the front of the gun close to your hand?

[spare lagoon]

so without doing any calibration and hand rotation offset at 0, only holding the firearm with one hand in the stock everything looks decent and is workable. once i grip it with my offhand everything goes sucky

[royal wagon]

what?

with no calibration, no gunstock enabled, you have a close alignment but when you grab it goes weird?

can you make a vid of that

[spare lagoon]

correct. yes, just to be save ill delete save as well

[royal wagon]

yeah, clear calibration, set hand pitch offset to zero, disable gunstock calibration, and then quit and reload

[shy notch]

Same problem here

[royal wagon]

quest might have some weird calibration bugs im not seeing on index, but id like to try to get this issue identified

[shy notch]

With a physical gunstock the offhand shouldn't have any impact on the alignment anymore, think this is the reason

[royal wagon]

no, it does have an impact on the alignment

[shy notch]

Yes it does but it shouldn't because you use a gunstock... Your offhand is always on the same position no matter what gun youre using

[royal wagon]

no, that would be bad, you might need to adjust it a little bit for some reason

there are games that have implemented only the primary hand influence gun orientation and its terrible

[spare lagoon]

did, heres the result. cleared save beforehand as well. meant to look through right eye but it was close to ADS while holding with single hand. no calibration and 0 hand offset

[royal wagon]

ok

can you start there, hold the gun in your hands, put it away, do the cal, and then grab the gun again?

you should need much of an adjustment

looks like a little up and a little rotate down

just a little

[spare lagoon]

yep. ill just point it down some

leave physical gunstock on or off?

[royal wagon]

on

[spare lagoon]

ok

[shy notch]

Hos is it solved in contractors? There it works very well

[royal wagon]

shrug, havent played that in a while

front hand still influences gun position

[spare lagoon]

ta da

[royal wagon]

thats weird as hell

where did you buy GOT? oculus or steam, how are you playing? standalone? airlink? VD?

i dont think its a you problem, i think theres a bug somewhere

[spare lagoon]

yep. been dealing with this basically since i bought the game lol. have not once been able to use my stock. actually before they introduced the calibration certain firearms were useable but now if i dont calibrate they point to the right, if i do calibrate the above happens. bought on steam, using reverb g2. i think i also tried with my vive wands with a similar problem but i cant remember 100% on that one

[royal wagon]

hm

pointing to the right means your gunstock needs physical adjustment for horizontal

[spare lagoon]

controllers are directly inline

[shy notch]

Well, same for me. I use a protube and I can't align it properly

[royal wagon]

thats the problem, they shouldnt be

adjust the rotation a little so they are slightly outside

doesnt take much

imo you shouldnt be solving horizontal alignment with the calibrator

i dont know that it handles that well right now

[spare lagoon]

kinda cant

[shy notch]

The only workaround maybe is to align the physical hand with the trigger/colission point at your virtual gun so that if you press the grip button it doesn't move anymore

[royal wagon]

gunstock calibraiton is what adjusts that

rip

[spare lagoon]

lines up horzontally in other games without trouble. given they use the vr expansion plugin, im wondering if theyve offset the hand socket components a bit at some point around the calibration update

[shy notch]

Yep but only for the main hand, no?

[royal wagon]

both

[shy notch]

Sure?

[spare lagoon]

#1120744554254053397 message

[shy notch]

Ah ok thnx

[spare lagoon]

mine used to just add an additional offset to the primary grip transform, so everything worked as normal and in most cases peoples firearms could get close to being lined up to begin with so only some rotation and a little location was needed. only thing was position of your right hand was off by a few inches and whatever angle was needed in worse case situations but it wasnt something that was noticeable unless you were trying to find it. not sure their goal or reasoning behind it but that was my solution to it and it was atleast easy to implement and load from a config into a TMap to read from

one day. hopeuflly soon, just wana play 😦

[royal wagon]

hmm, combined playspaces are a little tricky but steamvr is the primary playspace and that should be consistent

openvr input emulator can let you make some adjustments

[gritty maple]

did they fix gunstock calibration

[royal wagon]

try this process: #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[eternal quest]

Nope

[olive hull]

So I've printed a gunstock that uses CV1 controllers, no magnets, it just rests the controllers in little cups. I keep having trouble quickly placing the controllers into the cups because of the safety strap, is there any way to get around this without cutting off the safety strap?

[spare lagoon]

put your hand in the strap and cutout slots in the cups so the straps dont get wound up in the cup?

[olive hull]

there are slots, im planning on just sanding it down so its more funnel-like to guide the strap correctly rather than getting caught

but it would make the print look bad, although im not looking at it while playing anyways soooo

[spare lagoon]

meh who cares what it looks like lol. but yea cut it into a V and chamfer the edges

[gritty maple]

bruh

[remote tiger]

Yea I’m quite disappointed ab it as well

[noble smelt]

Same, but they'll get to it I'm sure

[vital zealot]

Just got a Glistco Magni + 🤩 Do I need to activate something in GOT so it can play nice with it? Never had a gun stock before 😅

[gritty maple]

shit broken

no gun calibration

[lethal sinew]

My suggestion is to disable phsyical gunstock and not to use it. lol

At least for the Freedomstock VR it just... works

No idea aobut the low mounted gunstocks

[vital zealot]

Oh, I just saw the settings and thought it was useful xd

Should I keep the virtual stock option on?

[lethal sinew]

I don't use it if you have a phsyical stock. Causes more issues than it solves for us users of gunstocks

SMoothing at the very bottom is nice tho

so you dont get micro movements

[lethal sinew]

• If you want to give gunstock calibration / physical gunstock setting a chance...
  Saq wrote this up and it's pretty helpful: #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[vital zealot]

Well, still worth a try thx 😅

[normal grove]

How do you guys deal with fore grips? The angle of the gun changes depending on how far up/back the foregrip is on the gun..

Makes me not want to use them at all

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-dance-dancing-dances-party-gif-14011899

[hoary knot]

is the gunstock calibration disabled?

or do you have to enable the physical gunstock and reload the game?

[spare lagoon]

have to go to safe house

[royal wagon]

always use a foregrip and adjust your gunstock or calibration appropriately

if you align yourself on the adjustment of the foregrip it wont be a problem, and you always want to be using a foregrip because the recoil reduction is pretty massive

[half nova]

What happened to@the request group chat?

[normal grove]

ah so always use the same gun/foregrip and then calibrate

[royal wagon]

Ya

[normal grove]

mm

i think ill wait till next wipe to play

at least developement seems to be going in an upward trend; im sure they will fix this at some point.

maybe 6 months, a year, or in 2 years

[lethal sinew]

Game just wiped yesterday. You gonna wait another 3-6 months?

[faint wigeon]

With this big update finally pushed out, they could push a hotfix/small update to address calibration at any time before the next wipe.

Considering how much of a problem it is for many players, I can definitely see that happening long before next wipe.

[half glacier]

Anyone notice the issue of the gun position angle changing on you while playing? And having to repeatedly regrip the gun to try to revert it?

I think this might only be noticable to people (like myself) who use gun stocks, as our control position is fixed, and the misalignment is immediately apparent. I find this makes so in the middle of a firefight, all of a sudden I can't aim down my sights!!

[olive hull]

try holstering it and taking it back out

[half glacier]

ya I think that works too, but yikes not great

[olive hull]

definitely a bad problem

[remote tiger]

I agree they HAVE to know it’s a problem

[wispy maple]

^ Everyone. If you need a gunstock, THIS IS THE MAN TO TALK TO.

[remote tiger]

I app it man you a real one ☝️

[wispy maple]

Not paid actor, I just bought one off of him and he’s taking me step by step through his process

[wispy maple]

No problem man, you’re very good at what you do

[remote tiger]

Lol yea I try to keep everyone as informed as possible it’s quite cool what you can do with a printer

[wispy maple]

Very true

[royal wagon]

This can happen when you have gunstock calibration enabled and you just did a calibration

Once you have it calibrated how you want quit the game and reload and it should be stable

[half glacier]

huh OK, I'll give that a shot thank you

[royal wagon]

@swift nebula could you pin this to make it easier to find

#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[royal wagon]

@half glacier check that link, it’s my procedure I developed

I’ve reported these bugs to the devs and I’ll be working with them to try to improve this

[vagrant meadow]

How much are they?

Oh wait nvm I see ur bio

[royal wagon]

Thx

[trail lichen]

Is gunstock calibration worse? I can’t even accurately sight an AKM anymore

I tried making all sorts of adjustments, I even tried calibrating it to a position that would be completely unusable just to test, and it still was sat a bit too low on my shoulder, angled a bit too high

Very easy fix if the calibration worked, but it currently outright doesn’t, and no amount of adjustment will make it feel natural to aim my arms to the floor in order to line my sights up with the gun

And “enable physical gunstock” does absolutely fuckall but make it ten times worse

I’m just honestly perplexed by how it’s possible to have a stock calibration feature that not only does nothing, but actively makes the issue worse. Which then makes you go to turn it off, which hilariously also exacerbates the issue.

I played one raid, realized my calibration was completely off from where I had set it to, narrowly got 2 player kills anyways, and then extracted and logged off for the night. This issue totally kills my interest in playing this game that I otherwise love.

[pallid mural]

Is it really this shit all the time?

Was contemplating on playing again but this might make me wait some more

[safe carbon]

Ive been taking a long break from this game until calibrations fixed and has more freedom like onwards

Ever since that one update that changed gun angles, its been a nuisance to play

[clear osprey]

Is there any USA based gun stocks that make it easy to loot. I wanted a Kobra ultralight but you have to pay almost 30$ in shipping. I like the cup design that kobra has.

[kind lichen]

You have a 3d printer??

[clear osprey]

I have a resin printer. Yes. I can print and clear coat so I can handle it.

[vagrant wave]

Ay what dose your gun stock look like if you dont mind

[vagrant wave]

If you want a good stock very light weight look up skolvr.com it is a really nice stock it's a 3 In 1, it feells nice very comfortable it comes from Germany so you have to pay shipping but it's worth it in my opinion

https://skolvr.com/products/tomahawk-vr-gunstock-3in1-transformer

[sharp carbon]

Sorry guys, just wanna ask does anyone having the same issue or has a fix for it?

https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1132205204633292881

[kind lichen]

The V.S.T.O.C.K. on thingiverse has a similar front cup system that worked well for while I was using it. It takes a bit of assembly but I commented on there with some extra tips to make it easier. In fact that design inspired the gunstock I’m designing now which I’ll be releasing pretty soon here

[icy cobalt]

No problem on my end, at least as of 2 weeks ago. But I'm on an invert style so there's nothing in the way

[ripe rivet]

Seems a little bit xtreme - it still is a very playable game - even without a gunstock you can enjoy

[sharp carbon]

Lol thanks man, but what do you mean invert style? You pull out the mag for insert and do the opposite to reload?

[ripe rivet]

Ghetto stock thanks to Donzilla for video

[civic plank]

Buy i I stock it’s good and pretty cheap only 50 bucks

Great for pistol aiming and smg aiming

[ripe rivet]

This is a slanki pullstock that’s been abused and modified 😂😉

[remote tiger]

They are 32.91 if you would like some more detailed info send me a dm 🙂

[remote tiger]

Send me a dm and I’ll send some info in there!

[mint plaza]

Anyone else using the istock halfstock

[remote tiger]

I have heard that it has some issues. Tracking and cracking

[silver copper]

im having a problem with calobrating my stock whenever i do it it tilts the nose of the gun up by like 45 degrease and i cant use it

anyone know how to fix it

[remote tiger]

yes its quite buggy you really have to work with it to try to get it correct

i personally dont use it bc i think its too much of a hastle but a few users have claimed they got it to work

[timber shore]

Keep refining it by eye. It's so broken right now however my method is like this

1: Adjust offset and tilt so it matches roughly in line with your dominant hand IRL.

2: when calibrating make sure your front hand roughly lines up to where the character would grab that gun.

3: calibrate

4: Now test it by holding a gun. Check for any issues and calibrate again with those in mind

[silver copper]

thanks so much

[timber shore]

For example, I noticed that the calibration saves the front hand grip point at almost the center of in my case, left hand. So after calibration, sometimes the G icon for front hand would be alot lower then the gun. I would then go back and calibrate with my front hand slightly higher to compensate

Hope that makes sense

[silver copper]

yes a bit i will work it out

[quasi totem]

@faint wigeon i bought one of the stocks yesterday i was just wondering what is the print to delivery time

[pure crown]

Stock calibration doesn't work for me at all no matter what I save it as it will just reset it to default nothing works

[remote tiger]

yea it apears some users can get it to workothers can not

[faint wigeon]

Heya, check your DM's I just sent you a message.

[trail lichen]

Having major issues with calibration functionality? Share additional details here: https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1132361839410425926 🔫

[split jay]

Bottom rail gunstocks just won't work in this game. I have the sanlaki sleek and in EVERY other shooter my aim is true with a SLIGHT deviation. Like, a millimeter deviation. Pavlov, onward, contractors. No problem with the sanlaki AT ALL. Especially Contractors. They did calibration right 👌 But this game will literally whip the barrel around and point it at me while I'm still engaging the stock. No matter what I do the aim is sporadic and unreliable and I feel like it's gotten worse. It used to just be the Sks and some Smh but now it's every weapon. Smh. We will try to come back after next wipe hopefully they fix this. Unplayable with an undermount stock imo.

[remote tiger]

i would have to disagree respectfully. i make a bottom rail and with some tuining of settings it works just fine. the fact that it slings around is def interesting. if you wanted i could try to help diagnose the problem with you. I DEF agree that the gunstock cal is an issue in the current state of the game. no doubt in my mind

i personally dont use gunstock cal

[split jay]

@remote tiger I'd love to get to the bottom of this. I've spent hours researching, buying IR lights, etc.. what are your ideas?

[remote tiger]

for sure send me a dm

[split jay]

Is there anyone here that DOSENT sell gunstocks that use them successfully without deviation? I have bought IR lights, tweaked every suggested setting, took the covers off of my controllers, tried holding the gunstock/assembling it differently (standard/sleek) and nothing will make the aim stay true. Don't listen to people trying to sell you THEIR gunstock, that is marketing and doing nothing to help the community as a whole.

[tiny ember]

if i were to throw 200 bucks on a gunstock should i buy the mamut the tomahawk or a protube

[royal wagon]

Quest?

[royal wagon]

Magtube in full carbon is the best of the bunch imo

[split jay]

@royal wagon Quest 2 via PC

[royal wagon]

Yeah, sounds like you discovered the tracking limits of the quest

[split jay]

Ah I see. Are there headsets that do well with gunstocks?

[royal wagon]

Index

[split jay]

I WILL throw money at this lmao if it works

[noble smelt]

I don't have issues, but I don't use the calibration either.

[split jay]

That's still a grand smh I may dabble tho. Quest 3 may be better

[royal wagon]

Quest 3 is going to be so much worse lmao

[remote tiger]

why do u say that

[royal wagon]

You could get the pro controllers, those are a lot better

They removed most of the tracking rings on the q3 and will hand pose estimate the difference

It’s going to be terrible for games like this, they want you to buy the pro controllers

[split jay]

@royal wagon Smh. According to my friend the pro controllers don't do much better with this game. I just don't understand how every other FPS gives me ZERO issues

If they could take the system from Contractors and use it here it would be perfect

[remote tiger]

yea

[royal wagon]

Calibration is in progres and I think the person making it only has an index, works great there

The pro controllers solve quest tracking issues

[split jay]

@royal wagon That is a horrible practice, testing on one device. Smh. Especially when most ppl have quest

[royal wagon]

It’s an indie team

[split jay]

@royal wagon it's $300

[royal wagon]

They are still figuring out how to make a VR game, which all of the big guys mostly are too

[split jay]

I feel that. But I can't find a really why tracking should be THIS bad but they can make me angle my mag before putting it in my rifle..

[royal wagon]

I think they have the hand -> gun positions set too far forwards, if you check the trigger -> controller alignment it’s not very good, at least in index

[split jay]

Just seems backwards

[royal wagon]

The tracking problems you are having are quest limitations, hold the controllers more forwards, a gunstock without adjustability will cause you some difficulties if it holds it too close to you

[split jay]

These "quest limitations" only pertain to this game. Seems more like a Tabor limitation

[remote tiger]

that is true

[royal wagon]

No, they are quest limitations due to their tracking technology

The way this game was made is exposing them

[split jay]

@royal wagon No, because I only experience them HERE.

No man. That's not right

[royal wagon]

It is

The game can’t break quests tracking, the tracking can only fail the game

[split jay]

@royal wagon It's this game. Period. Literally no other game acts like this but you say the BUGGIEST game I have is exposing them?

Nah

[royal wagon]

They need to adjust how they have things setup to work around the quests issues

Compare the hand -> gun pose alignment on the other games

[split jay]

It's awesome. This is a Combat waffle issue

[royal wagon]

Take one controller and put it up to your other controllers trigger

[split jay]

They need to work around QUEST. Not the other way around

[royal wagon]

You’ll be able to see where it aligns

Yeah, they are working around the quest, it needs to get better which is why you are having problems because quests tracking capabilities are rather limited

[split jay]

Blood trail. Contractors. Pavlov. Walking dead. They were not hindered by these so called "limits" Combat waffle just needs to check their priorities. 1 game out of my huge collection and you're blaming my headset?? Sounds like blind fanboying. No offense.

[royal wagon]

You can have those opinions but you are wrong

[remote tiger]

god i love this chat

[royal wagon]

If that were the case why do pro controllers solve the problem?

And index users don’t have any problems

[eager arch]

So about those 30 dollar VR stocks

[split jay]

@royal wagon You are literally looking at a blue sky and telling me it's orange. Pro controllers do not remedy this I already told you my friend has pro controllers and a Sanlaki. Same issues same deviation. But you cannot explain how this is the ONLY game not working

[remote tiger]

yes sir send me a dm and we can discuss

[royal wagon]

I’ve extrapolated what the problem is quite a bit, you are pretty mad about all of the issues you are having, it’s clouding your ability to see through a pretty technical issue

[eager arch]

Mkay

[royal wagon]

That’s not what I’ve heard, I don’t have a quest and pro controllers but I know a few people who do

[split jay]

@royal wagon I'm not mad you just don't make sense. You're saying the dumb kid in class was the only one with a bad grade because he exposed how shitty the teacher actually is

But everyone else is doing GREAT

[royal wagon]

You haven’t read a single thing I’ve said, take a chill pill and go back and read it later

[split jay]

But the rest of the class is held back by the teachers "limitations"

No thanks I've read it all

[royal wagon]

Must be too technical then

[split jay]

@royal wagon Too fedora. Too fanboy.

[spare lagoon]

neither. it doesnt matter if their developing the calibration on the quest, index, WMR, etc. at the end of the day the logic is going to be very similar if not the same (depends on if anything needs compiled out/platform specific code) amongst all headsets for the calibration system. right now it simply doesnt work period. doesnt matter what headset the guy working on it is using

plus quest is annoying to test on anyways and slows iteration time down. much easier using steamvr and periodically check on quest

[royal wagon]

There does seem to be more issues on quest on pc and quest standalone with that and the hand offset than with index users

I’ve not seen any index users get the weird upward angle you get @spare lagoon

[icy cobalt]

No, the rod of the gunstock is where the barrel/chamber of the rifle is in game.

[split jay]

@spare lagoon This is what I needed to hear. Not that it was a quest issue and that this is solely due to the limitations of quest tracking. But I wasn't even really talking about calibration you must not have went up enough. Underrail gunstocks don't work well is the point I was making. The occlusion (I'm assuming) causes the left hand aiming to do whatever it wants. At times that means doing a full 180 or whipping around like a glitch in GMOD. Only when using a stock

[spare lagoon]

ah gotcha, yea i only saw calibration and down. agreed, imo without base station tracking, having the controllers attach under the stock is dumb. it has advantages in terms of useability but its not worth the reduction in tracking. heck my WMR struggles enough without it already -_-

[split jay]

@spare lagoon I just don't understand how Contractors and Pavlov, along with every other fps does it so well. I NEVER have issues in contractors. That's what my smooth brain can't comprehend

@spare lagoon may go index at this point

[dawn tree]

Sorry to interrupt this intense convo but any recommendations for a stock that works good with quest?

[still crater]

Bowk

Pretty light stock, works well for me

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[still crater]

@remote tiger also sells a good stock for a very good price

[icy cobalt]

Yes. On index. No idea how quest handles.

[remote tiger]

@still crater thank you! @dawn tree cheezys stock is also very good

[faint wigeon]

yes @remote tiger has a great traditional style stock at a good price as well

[split jay]

@remote tiger what does your stock look like? Is it top mount?

[icy cobalt]

Look, here's the deal. My index tracks my fingers, my headset, and my hands with less than a millimeter of deviation by using three externally mounted fixed positions as anchors, by using the IR spectrum.
The quest guesses at head position by comparing the environment and internal sensors, and then looks to find your controllers and orient them relative to the headset, assisted by sensors for movement inside the controllers.

There is just no way around the fact that the quest has to make guesses, particularly with a stock in the way, and the tracking is objectively worse and limited. The trade off being you don't need to have wall mounted sensors and extensive setup.

[remote tiger]

yes it is bottom mounted

ill send you some info to you rdm

[split jay]

@remote tiger ok

[still crater]

Top mount stocks have worked well for me bottom mount had the famous tracking hickups

[icy cobalt]

Quest is made of witchery and magic.

[remote tiger]

although this is true its not exactly an issue. i say this bc when we buy the quest we for the most part its not going to be as good as thes 700$ ones

[still crater]

Can't agree more

[remote tiger]

cheezy borught up a good point to me i misunderstood mine are bottom mounted meaning it has cups you slide the controlers in. mine is not top mounted

[icy cobalt]

Would you send over a picture of one of your stocks? Curious.

[remote tiger]

ye

[still crater]

Oh 😅

[remote tiger]

yea it confused me as well lol

wait no its all about refrence. bottom inregards to controler or rods?
Its bottom mounted in terms of controlers but top mounted in terms of the rod

[icy cobalt]

I have no idea how it plays with quest, but I use a bowk invert marksman on index with great love.

[icy cobalt]

We need to make some standard terms here, because now I'm confused and I'm not even the one asking questions. 😆

[remote tiger]

yea so mine is TOP mounted meaning the controlers are on the TOP of the rod

[faint wigeon]

How ive always understood it to mean was (on Quest controllers).

Top Mount:
The mounting point is on the controller rings

Bottom Mount:
The mounting point is on the bottom of the controller via cups.

[remote tiger]

okay yea than there is some miscomunication

we should come up with a universal way of understanding it

thoughts?

[still crater]

Top mount : controller on top

[dawn tree]

I think cheesy way is pretty universal just saying

[still crater]

Bottom : controller underneath

[remote tiger]

sounds good to me

[icy cobalt]

So far ya'll are 2v2

[still crater]

I thought it was like this : top mount,mount is on top of the gunstock tube(aka Controller cups). Bottom mount, mount is on the bottom of gunstock tube (Controller ring thingies)

[fathom lodge]

Hey guys, quick question.
WHERE THE F*CK DO Y'ALL BUY YOUR STOCKS?!

I cant find a damn one that's affordable in canada😂

[remote tiger]

ahh yea shipping is a big issue. what is ur price range

[still crater]

I printed mine

[fathom lodge]

I'd say 150$-250$

[fathom lodge]

I dont have a printer sadly

[remote tiger]

oh yea then you can pretty much get any one u wnat lol

[still crater]

Bowk is good

Idk what the shipping costs tho

[fathom lodge]

I'll look up bowk

Thanks man!

[icy cobalt]

9/10 I can find one near you. Give me a Canadian city and I'll give you a maker's space that has a 3D printer.

People usually don't realize how close they are to maker's spaces that will let you use their tools.

[still crater]

Try my shithole of a city

Bremen,Germany

[shy notch]

I just compared the calibrations from contractors and GOT, it seems that in contractors they consider that there is quite a big gap between the real hand and the socket point but when you use a calibrated gunstock it just clips to the socket and reset the values. In GOT it just widen the trigger area for the socket but when you clip in it do not reset the values but calculate from the real life handposition which leads to the unplayable offset

[remote tiger]

Interesting

[shy notch]

Just a guess I'm not a game dev

[icy cobalt]

Fablab Bremen e.V.
An d. Weide 50a, 28195 Bremen

But my german is too limited to say anything about cost or quality.

[fathom lodge]

What about saint eustache?

You're probably going to find something cuz it aint a small town lol

@icy cobalt

[still crater]

Thanks dude

[royal wagon]

Protube ships worldwide quite speedy

[fading rampart]

So are gun stocks just flat out unable to be calibrated? I came here looking for a simple yes or no bc it crashes my game and prevents me from using the grip button when I try to calibrate it. Both on q2sa and pcvr

[icy cobalt]

Jeez man, too many to count. Especially if you're willing to go into Montreal.
L'Atelier d l'ACER, rosemere, quebec J7A 1L1,

Fab lab echoFab 55 Rue de Louvain O #330, Montreal, QC H2N 1A4

FabZone Community Workshop 245S Boul. Saint-Jean, Pointe-Claire, QC H9R 3J1

And about two dozen others. FabZone looks pretty chill to me, 30$ charge for a month of access and sounds like good people based on the reviews.

Also, I second the bowk. I use an invert marksman from him on Index and it's gold.

[icy cobalt]

Anytime mate, everyone should have access to a full set of tools.

[royal wagon]

I don’t know, all of my index friends have been able to follow my instructions and get a better calibration. Quest users do not seem to be having a good experience

[fathom lodge]

thanks bud!

If you wanna play this mental torture of a game one day, hit me up lol

[icy cobalt]

Will do, throw an invite to Lightwolf and I'll say hi when I get back to town.
But know I waffle between trying to make friends with everyone, then murdering everyone for a half dozen runs after the inevitable betrayal

[fathom lodge]

You pretty much summed up the game right there lol

Well, im working atm, just on my break, i'll be able to play by monday.

Here, just sent you a friend request so i wont forget to add you on GoT lmao

[open cloud]

plese please please move the button to reset all calibrations in a different spot or make a conformation pop up omfg i just did it after getting my stuff finally looking and feeling nice

[remote tiger]

RIPPPPPPP

[mental nova]

What’s the best low price stock?

[fading rampart]

Awesome....

[faint wigeon]

@remote tiger has a great option at an affordable price!

I also have a gunstock (FreedomStock) as well, thats a mid range priced stock:

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[mental nova]

Alright thank you sm

[lament flame]

anyone here that uses a mamut gunstock do you loose tracking with using a quest 2? i notice when my gunstock is on my right side/hip and im looting if i bump my controller next to the magnet i loose tracking...

i also notice the grips move when on the gunstock that kinda annoys me

[royal wagon]

You can’t adjust it so they are fixed?

[remote tiger]

Tighten the grips further id imagine they are supposed to stay still

[icy cobalt]

Define low price

[normal grove]

I don't enjoy shooters without a gunstock anymore; I'm also waiting for a better progression system and more maps. I believe in the team

[remote tiger]

Yea I don’t blame u

[remote tiger]

I sent you a dm with some info

[normal grove]

I don't enjoy the opticals in this game either. Can't use both eyes open with them like in Pavlov

[royal wagon]

??

[icy cobalt]

Had a similar issue with a few magnetic stocks on index, worst with the mamut since it's got pretty beefy magnets. Quest bros reported similar.

Here's what I figure.

The magnets provide a really sharp jolt to the controllers and max out the accelerometers for a split second, causing a wild loss of tracking as the controller guesses you just threw it across the room.

I solved this problem by changing away from the mamut. Quest friend solved it by changing habits so he only interacted with the stock in a gentle manner.

Also why is it on your hip?

[icy cobalt]

I feel you. The ones here are excessively dark and grainy.

[lament flame]

i use a sling so when i free hand and loot i move my gunstock to the right of me on my right hip so its away from me when i loot idk i may just return it

[royal wagon]

You can’t make the rear of a mamut fixed so it doesn’t move?

[lament flame]

i made a video im gonna upload to explain it a bit more

[icy cobalt]

I'm assuming you're using a single point. I'd suggest using it differently, if it's resting on your dominant hip.
Here's a graphic.

[lament flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnYGyDzbO3I

[royal wagon]

Can’t watch right now

[lament flame]

u can watch it at low res tell its done processing for higher res

[spare lagoon]

learn how to come in/out of your sling and be able to quickly come out of the sling and back in on the other side and synch the stock on your back and vise versa to pull it back out. you can be quite quick with it and its completely out of your way since its literally on your back (assumes two point)

[lament flame]

one point

[spare lagoon]

go two point

[royal wagon]

I prefer single point, I have my sling set so it hands by my side exactly where my hands go, I can bring it up with both controllers in extremely fast speed

[lament flame]

thats how i do it

[royal wagon]

Two point would slow me way down, esp putting it away

To put my stock away I just let it drop, it rests right in the ready position

[lament flame]

yup

[icy cobalt]

But I can't fault you for switching away. I did.
I spent long enough trying to make it work that I'm a little bit bitter about it, both the money and the time.

[spare lagoon]

same with a two. just let it go, just pick it back up. if you really want it out of the way you come out of it and now you are basically using it like a single point just around teh back of your neck

difference is as well is you can quickly synch it to your body and side keeping it further out of the way without coming out of it while looting

[royal wagon]

I just twist my hands and my stock is immediately completely out of the way and instantly in the fastest point to retrieve it

[spare lagoon]

the two point argument is a ground i will die on justifying

[icy cobalt]

I'm with Cody.

[spare lagoon]

theres a reason you dont seem single points much irl anymore. you dont get as many of the advantages in vr but you still get some

[icy cobalt]

It provides all the benefits of a single point, just have to use it. There's a reason 99% of real world uses two point.

Hey, twinsies

[royal wagon]

Real world isn’t video games though

[royal wagon]

I don’t have to worry about shooting myself

[spare lagoon]

not much of a concern there with a single point either with good muzzle control and running the safety

[icy cobalt]

You can't convince me that reaching one hand down, connecting one hand, bringing it to your left hand, then up, is faster than just having it indexed at two points across your chest.

[royal wagon]

I used to use a two point, it rests in the way

[icy cobalt]

In the way of what?
Neither Cody or I have a problem with it being in the way of anything

[royal wagon]

I don’t have to really bring my off hand anywhere, me raising the stock is like raising the rifle and it connects in one smooth motion

[icy cobalt]

Point 2, you can't crouch with how you use a single point, and how it's recommended to use it's even more in the way, a vertical line down your chest, but flopping all over.

[royal wagon]

I crouch just fine with a single point

Never in the way

Never even notice it

[spare lagoon]

sorry your on your own, finishing bio presentation -_-

[lament flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdpDL5-UTxs

[icy cobalt]

Just spent 30 seconds perusing your last stream. Might be wrong, but sample size 5 you don't crouch. You use in game crouch or bend over at the waist.

But I'm out man. You do you. I'm going to keep recommending people do what tends to work for more people and personal experience says is faster, more stable, and generally better.

[trail lichen]

People with no gun experience should use a 2 point sling

People familiar with rifles, or at very least VR shooters using a gunstock, may prefer a single point sling

Ultimately the whole thing is personal preference anyways. I like a single point sling, but there’s nothing wrong with using a two point sling if that’s what works best for you.

[pure crown]

#💬・general-chat

Lol

[icy cobalt]

The first sentence made my eyebrows raise, but the rest is reasonable.

Ultimately it is a goal oriented decision, ease of use and freedom of movement vs higher flexibility and stability. But phrasing it as single point is better ain't it.

[trail lichen]

I dunno, to me that’s what seems most natural, everyone has a varying experience though

[spare lagoon]

last argument. my experienec led me to a two point. no more getting smacked in the junk, being able to sling it on my back tight completely hands free to do literally whatever, using it to tension for stability if needbe (has yet to really be worth the time on that one imo). lastly for a mix of speed and out of the way, rolling the firearm in while dropping it to the side and out of the way with a single hand and it actually staying there and being able to pick it back up almost as fast back to the shoulder

ok off for good now, have fun (probably be back, to bored atm)

[icy cobalt]

The reason people ship a 1 point as default with the stocks is because they're cheap, and a 2 point requires knowledge and setup to use to full effect.
Plus with most engagement ranges in these games being extremely short, most people won't get full use of a 2 point.

[lament flame]

if you could make a short video showing me how you use it. would be great

[icy cobalt]

Out of country, will do on return.

[lament flame]

thanks

[icy cobalt]

Also good video, looks like your experience with the mamut was extremely similar to mine.

Plus on index, with the invert style, you couldn't put the controllers in line.

[spare lagoon]

yea im to bored and back. if you ever see a 3 point, put it out of its misery. seems like an ok video from skimming, gives the jist on running and 1 and 2 point. hardly covers 3 point but, yea no point just ditch it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdUfsYinS-k&ab_channel=InRangeTV

[lament flame]

yea just the problem with the ring touching the magnet and loosing tracking is a big no no for me on top of the cups moving while using the stock is also a no no for me otherwise the mamut is great

[icy cobalt]

I had a joint fail in the middle of an onward VRML match and was done.

[lament flame]

what you using now?

[icy cobalt]

With proper setup, I do think VR is uniquely suited to a 3 point. Basically no one is shooting off hand or transitioning shoulders, and recoil isn't a thing here.

[icy cobalt]

Bowk invert marksman is the best I've yet found for Index.

[lament flame]

also i understand the 1 point sling but im not on a treadmill moving in vr and moving it to my side isnt bad

[spare lagoon]

what if the wife gets mad and grabs the stock shaking you around without the ability to come out of it while yelling threats about not mowing

plus cant do this

[lament flame]

im watching the YT video you posted cody

[icy cobalt]

Ah, but can make it a backpack to wear while mowing the lawn for additional larp points.

[lament flame]

lol

[spare lagoon]

true, but does that earn enough points to purchase a pair of articulating white phos binos for 10k

[lament flame]

what did you have before?

[icy cobalt]

Mamut and a couple Etsy/Amazon magnetic stocks that are no longer around.

Notably didn't have a magtube, so if that works for you great, or there's an Irish fellow around here that has good things to say about them

I'm out for about the next 18 hours, see y'all

[inland plover]

Cable Management

[pure crown]

I have the EXACT same headstrap

[trail lichen]

My brother in Christ, you bought the wireless headset

[faint wigeon]

In his defense, I play pretty much everything on standalone Q2, with the exception of Tabor I play that on PC via Link Cable (airlink & virtual desktop just don't quite have the same smooth full fidelity crispiness)

[pure crown]

Y’all know a affordable quest 2 gunstock? Between 20-40?

[faint wigeon]

@remote tiger has a great one in that price rang4

[remote tiger]

@pure crown hey man I sell them for 32.91 I’ll send you a dm with info!

Thank you @faint wigeon 🙂

[hidden pecan]

Can you send it to me aswell?

[remote tiger]

@hidden pecan ofc check your dm!

[open cloud]

whenever i pick up a gun in tabor now my hands shift up and they arnt alligned with my controllers anymore. goes back after i let go of the gun
is this a bug or something i just never noticed
suddenly my stock isnt lined up again and its pissing me off

[remote tiger]

Yea gunstock cal is quite buggy. You have to spend a lot of time getting it right. Personally I don’t use it. I have it disabled and just work witout it

[open cloud]

when tf are they gonna fix it. its god awful. that fact that you have to go back and forth from the market to the base. and that the odds of you setting just dissapearing again are above 50

% it feels like

its insane

[royal wagon]

be sure you quit after setting it

thats weirdly an important step

[open cloud]

i did thats why im so mad

i reset my profile and my hands still move off my gun. should i verify integrity? or uninstall and reinstall

[gritty maple]

what gunstock is most comfortable and fast cuz the glistco magnistock clunky and fragile

[faint wigeon]

No gunstock can beat the speed of the FreedomStock, especially for looting in Tabor

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[gritty maple]

bro immediantly sent the whole ad 😭

it looks kinda short

i like the length on the glistco

just not how much everything moves and if i tighten it too much it just cracks

[open cloud]

me and ragesaq have a magtube from protube vr. itll take a bit of time to get used to but the customizability aswell as comfort and speed. you just cant go wrong

[faint wigeon]

There are 3 configurations, including a full length configuration tip to butt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VbYvqA3yH0

[gritty maple]

holy shit thats so cool

what is it made of?

the design seems very unique

in a good way

[hidden pecan]

Looks good, but its just out of my budget tbh 😅

[gritty maple]

yea it seems a bit expensive imo

[hidden pecan]

and ships to US only

[faint wigeon]

Thank you! I set out to break the trend of a the traditional gunstock design, and add functionality along with unparallel mobility and speed that no other gunstock on the market can rival.

The glisco is around the same price, but glisco doesn't include free shipping.

Mine includes free 2-3 day priority shipping (US). Which means once the stocks been printed and assembled and shipped, it'll be at your door in 2-3 business days.

[hidden pecan]

will there be worldwide shipping? or is it not possible yet

[faint wigeon]

Unfortunately at this time I dont offer international shipping I'm afraid. Something I do want to offer in the future, just at the moment there are certian logistics preventing that I'm afraid.

[gritty maple]

do you ship to canada?

nvm

[faint wigeon]

Yeah no unfortunately even tho your just up north from me on the same freakin continent lol, the post office still considered that "International Shipping"

[gritty maple]

awh

[open cloud]

because you cant get one from him i seriously suggest the mag tube. much much higher quality than the gun stock you have now

[pure crown]

The main prob with gunstocks is mp5 and FAL slaps😭

[inland plover]

Thats sweat stuff, huh? ... I love it!

[inland plover]

Yeah, even with my 500u/500d Google Fiber, the Wireless wasnt as good as the Kuject Smart Link Cable for Link on Quest 2 to the Computer version of the game. Then the Computer handles the internet and the quest doesn't over heat, plus I get 10 hours of play....

Pole: How many hours have you got out of your Quest 2 play time?

Me: 10 hours and then it shut down...

[gritty maple]

yea i will but its hella expensive prob for a good reason so im saving

[open cloud]

good idea. nothing amazing is cheap

and for the price i promise you will get nothing short of amazing

[formal nimbus]

do anyone got any alternative of the gun stock?
they re very expensive for me

[trail lichen]

What is your budget?

[formal nimbus]

40 usd max 80 usd

[faint wigeon]

I have a one of a kind stock I sell for $85, and it comes included with free 2-3 day priority shipping (in the US).

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[formal nimbus]

oh cool will check i was playing using my charger cable as a stock 😂

[jovial cypress]

https://www.higvr.com/products/hig-m4-vr-gunstock Heres a great option too for 59.99

[formal nimbus]

is it possible to use with left hand ?

like some stocks make u pay 10 dollars more for being left hand user

[jovial cypress]

Do not think so, i mnea mabye you cold just invest everything on it

unscrew and flip you know

[formal nimbus]

i could if my country economy was not like 98% broke

im gonna save up for a stock i thinked it dint helped soo much

but now i literally made a homemade one and i see that i should

[split jay]

Well guys, I just caved and bought the Modus R from 3daptive. Seems to be pretty good for tabor. Will update in about a week.

[hidden pecan]

i dont think you spelled oculus right

[icy cobalt]

My friend, let's work on getting you one that is cheap and works well.
May I ask what country?

[viral glen]

The in-game virtual stock seems to be working very well since patch for me so it might help until you're able to get a physical gunstock

[gleaming haven]

hello is the calibration option for gunstock working again or still buggy?

[lethal sinew]

Still buggy. Check pins in this channel though if you want to try it. Good write up on how to get it 'working' by saq

[gleaming haven]

nice i check that thanks ^^

[plush current]

Istock

https://istockgaming.com @formal nimbus

[remote tiger]

@formal nimbus hey man I sell mine for 32.91 check ur dm for info!

[still crater]

1: settings -> enable physical gunstock -> calibrate gunstock -> pick weapon class -> hit calibrate
2: put your guns in your gunstock (important) and make a small number of adjustments, hit both triggers to save
3: exit to market, go back to base
4: check calibration, if you need more adjustments goto #1
5: important: when you have the calibration finished, quit the game and reload, you should find it doesnt reset and is pretty reliable

What does he mean with adjustments?

Like ingame adjustments or just wiggle the controllers in the stock

[half glacier]

So I previously mentioned an issue where my gun angle spontaneously changes in game, and cane be fixed by repeatedly reholstering or picking up gun, this doesn't seem to address that particular issue, is anyone else experience this?

[lament flame]

i started the return process for mamut. has anyone shipped the gunstock back? what services did you use? im in the US

[eager arch]

Do you know how much they cost to ship to the UK?

[plush current]

Idk should be abt the same? As me ig

[royal wagon]

After making your final gunstock calibration changes you quit and relaunched the game?

I only see hand offset / gunstock config settings get randomly changed if I’ve been altering those two settings without quitting out all the way and relaunching

[half glacier]

Yes, I only did it for the rifle though

[eager arch]

Alr I'll just have to have a look at checkout

Cheers

[royal wagon]

Odd. Index?

[half glacier]

quest pro

[royal wagon]

Must be differences due to headset

[half glacier]

ah perhaps ya

[icy cobalt]

Have had this issue, particularly when interacting with other grippable objects. Repeatable with other weapon classes.

On index

Hold a weapon in your right hand. Grab a weapon of a different class in other hand. Set second weapon down.

Angle change.

[royal wagon]

Saw that before I discovered the “make final changes, quit and reload” step, hadn’t recurred since

[junior surge]

e

[pure crown]

Did this new update fix gunstock calibration

[formal nimbus]

my man if that shit helped i was not looking for a stock

even using it i feel it very shakey

btw why u need to pay 85 usd if u can literally made with the same materials for 20 usds

[remote tiger]

Well it’s not necessarily that Simple. You are paying for much more than the materials

[formal nimbus]

it should not that hard to do

[remote tiger]

If u want to just throw some stuff together yes you can get buy it u want the cups to be sized perfectly with customability ,personalizations and other factors that is why you buy one. You are paying the creator for spending countless hours designing,testing, editing, material cost, electricity, gas to ship your product, nuts, botls, packing etc etc. you ofc can make one yourself. I am all for that. But my point is if bought stocks were just as good as made stocks (for the most part) everyone would jsut make them. There would be no market for them. Clearly they offer soemthing handmade ones can not offer

And that is usually more accurate dimensions, better feel, better immersion, etc etc

Ofc I have talked to people and they love their own ones that’s terrific! I also have had many of my customers buy my stock and even in one of the reviews I have he mentioned how that mine was so much better to his homemade.

No hard feelings at all just trying to express a different point of view 🙂

[formal nimbus]

can u send what one u use?

[remote tiger]

I sent you a dm at 9am today have a look

@dry canopy no

[remote tiger]

yea i think they made it slightly worse

@dry canopy can you send me a dm and explain your issue. i think one of my customers has a simialar issue

[grim turret]

My gun stock just arrived but what is this for?

Spine btw

[remote tiger]

looks like a tip for the stock

like a muzzle flash etc

[grim turret]

Its for the back of the gun?

I mean i quess it fits there but kinda weird

[surreal quarry]

Front

[grim turret]

It does not fit there

Wont screw on

[remote tiger]

To me it looks more or less for looks so I wouldn’t be too worried ab it. I could ofc be wrong

[formal nimbus]

o saw this stock i think its to is the muzzle

[remote tiger]

yea i think its just for looks

[tall patrol]

Custom pvc gunstock MKII

I might try and make the controllers go down a tiny bit so it’s more balanced

[broken pollen]

YES... I posted this in a bug report a week or two but it got zero traction. I'll re-post here, in case someone has a response:
I play on steam using an Index with Index controllers and a MagTube physical gunstock.
I have noticed that when I am aiming down the site I am experiencing reticle drift in one of two ways.
The reticle will sometimes kind of bounce around (generally up and down), not super fast but fast and erratically enough I can't time a shot anyway... its just not holding steady. If I let go my off hand and dip the gun way down and then grab it and aim back up it will sometimes revert back to steady until it happens again. This is very disruptive at distance.
The much more prevalent drift comes when aiming down the site, the reticle seems to just start drifting in one direction (generally down and to the left) and out of sight (using the combo site without magnification), which causes me to have to raise the stock on my shoulder to a feasible but unnatural position, to find the reticle.
When it first started, I would have to let go with my off hand, and when i re-grab the gun, the reticle would be back in the correct position. However, lately I will often have to re-grab the gun 3-4 times before it will reset to the correct position. It has been harder to correct and seems to be happening more frequently (as much as every 20 seconds or so 4-5 times in a row, the other day).
I didn't see anything in a search that sounded like this issue, although I do believe I have heard others verbally complain about Drift type 1.
Drift type 2 may be prevalent as well, but if I weren't using a physical stock, i don't think id realize it was happening because I'd simply unknowingly adjust may off hand slightly to compensate, being none the wiser.

[plush wyvern]

Why did bro type a paragraph for that

[trail lichen]

This is a channel of adults that spent their adult money on an add-on for games they enjoy, so excuse us for being a little irritable when the game doesn’t adequately support the add-on. #💬・general-chat with the other middle schoolers is that way 😮‍💨

It’s a paragraph of troubleshooting efforts and explaining the issue. Very common for attempts to resolve a software problem.

[long kite]

How do you look at pinned aritcals on here 😳

[broken pollen]

I come from an IT background and learned long ago you get much better results if you are clear, concise and thorough the first time around. Not to mention, nothing is more frustrating (and disrespectful) to the people trying to render the assistance, then when someone asks for help but only gives a few short, vague, incomplete sentences a time, that have to be painstakingly drug out of the person one exchange at a time.
Not to mention, that as stated above, i originally wrote this as a bug report... and you'd have to be somewhat... simple... to think that the devs are going to take the time to look into a report (valid issue or not) that consists a few angry sentences about an issue that's missing all context, detail and relevant information. Essentially, if you sound like an upset 13 year old with out the ability to express himself, you'll get treated like one.
Hence the paragraph thoroughly describing the issue.

[long kite]

Doesn't matter sorted it

[sullen anvil]

What would y'all say the best gunstock is?

[plush current]

I’m sorry I’m not reading all that I’m sorry that happened to you or congrats that’s awesome

[young imp]

Would you guys recommend this Stock for tabor? Im low on budget but i want to try it out https://www.olenvr.com/vr-gun-stock-accessories/spine-virtual-reality-gun-stock

[plush current]

That is in fact me

Why?

[plush current]

Spine is really good apparently

only problem is it don’t got a split where you can use side arm without having to drop it if you want to get something that allows more mobility with switching @young imp have a look at this https://istockgaming.com

It comes with a string for stability and gun holding limit etc

It don’t got the weight so if your looking for realistic and got the money

https://www.mamutvr.com

this one will need to get use to tho as it’s pretty advanced but I’m assuming you trying to find a cheap one just to get by?

If so either spine or ISTOCK one but that’s up to you

(Ima be buying spine and mamut) ima be buying them all

To test them and make videos abt them etc

My beard has grown lil bit bigger since then tho

mmm I don’t think I will but thanks for the offer?

[lunar field]

ii need a 20 dollar stock

im broke

[plush current]

I’ll see what I can find 🙂

What currency do you use?

@lunar field

https://www.google.com.au/shopping/product/1?q=cheap+VR+gunstocks+meta+quest&client=safari&sa=X&hl=en-au&biw=428&bih=746&tbs=vw:l&prds=num:1,of:1,eto:3458574103566554351_0,prmr:1,pid:3458574103566554351,cs:1&ved=0ahUKEwjF0JrIgKaAAxUXcvUHHRUSD04QgjYIxw0 @lunar field I don’t recommend this as I’ve got one… but it’s the cheapest I could find

[lunar field]

usd

[plush current]

I suggest just paying for this one honestly https://istockgaming.com next cheapest legit company

[plush current]

Reliable unless you want some what full stability

[lunar field]

gracias

[plush current]

But ye if you going for cheap https://m.aliexpress.com/item/1005005366457855.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis!USD!%2459.66!%2423.04!!!!!%402103011516901558543713037e4264!12000032847008322!btf&_t=pvid%3Adc987413-d885-4c94-9dfa-f9c78c9940f0&afTraceInfo=1005005366457855__msite__c_ppc_item_bridge__xxxxxx__1690155854&spm=a2g0n.ppclist.product.0&gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite4itemAdapt

Here is the item link again I don’t recommend it at all tho but maybe you can put up with it highly suggest ISTOCK or the broke man’s stock LMAO

https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o @lunar field 😂

[pure crown]

how much was it

[lunar field]

if you say over 20$ i quit

[tall patrol]

25 bucks give or take. You need at least an hour to put it all together. Also a heat gun

[tall patrol]

Mb

[lunar field]

shit

well

[tall patrol]

It really depends on how much pvc costs in ur area

[pure crown]

where did you get all the pices from

[tall patrol]

Lowe’s

They prob got it a Home Depot to

[pure crown]

oh ok

[tall patrol]

I can put a tut that I used in here

https://youtu.be/zMiZG6rv-Kg

I made it different but still used all the parts s

[pure crown]

thank you yea i was about to say i wouldnt know how to put it together

[tall patrol]

Yw, it does need to be glued so find the shape you like and glue it. If it’s not glued it might fall apart

[pure crown]

oh ok only problem i have is i dont have a heat gun

[tall patrol]

There are ways to mimic the effect of a heat gun

Steam is one way

https://youtu.be/T-Q5otcs0f8

[pure crown]

oh ok i was think like a lighyer

[tall patrol]

Thats a bit risky, it might burn the plastic and ruin it, I would use steam

[pure crown]

oh ok

[remote tiger]

@young imp if lookinf for a low budjet i sell one for 32.91

dm for some info

[vernal salmon]

Best gunstock money can buy that gives u the edge?

[spare lagoon]

would be skill, not the stock as long as you can easily line up your sights with it

[surreal quarry]

Was just able to play after like 2-3 weeks. Is gunstock calibration bugged for anyone else

[remote tiger]

yes it is quite bugged

[surreal quarry]

Tried to calibrate SMGs and when I get it set perfect in the calibration when I go to hold a gun it angles upward

[faint wigeon]

No beating the speed, mobility and looting with a FreedomStock, hands down!

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[trail lichen]

Do you use a gunstock? Are you having trouble calibrating since the wipe? Share more details to work towards resolving this bug here: https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1132361839410425926

[trail lichen]

@surreal quarry anything you could add to this would be greatly appreciated 😄

[surreal quarry]

Yeah it was bugged for me too. Seems to be a universal issue

[half glacier]

ya this is destroying the game for me, in my case its not a drift, its a sudden shift in gun position that is visible just by lookign at it, may or may not be related to a sudden shift in hand angles, though the solution you describe lines up with what I do. I just lost 3 firefights in row due to in no small part to trying to deal with this nonsense at the same time. In a game like this, this sort of bug is a killer. This isn't battlefield, every death the stakes are heavy, and dying for a BS reason is enough to make one drop the game altogether. I'd love to get the devs attention on this

[remote tiger]

This seems to me like the headset loosing tracking

I def could be wrong tho but just from my experience it seems to be tracking

[wanton raptor]

Anyone willing to take a noob with them?

[remote tiger]

@wanton raptor if u check out #🤝・pvp-groupfinder I’m sure you will find some people quite quickly!

[wanton raptor]

Oh damn mb I am in the wrong chat thanks dude

[remote tiger]

No worries 🙂

[lament flame]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkl0VV5xjrw

made a video today more on the mamut subject

[remote tiger]

Okay so after seeing a bunch of stocks have “tracking issues” it’s making me think that it might possibly be the game

For the most part it was all working fine before wipe. Thoughts anyone?

[lament flame]

try a deferent game. it could be the new quest update

[remote tiger]

OK wait never mind you’re playing contractors

Possibly

[late axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNentMNPsyc

kobra vr is the BEST VR GUNSTOCK for this game

[remote tiger]

Question. Why include a sight if you can’t actually see it when you play. Adds unnecessary weight cost and complexity

[late axle]

i got the size above the smg

[remote tiger]

Other than it looks cool

[late axle]

its removable

[remote tiger]

But still ur paying for it

[late axle]

they have a version without it and its cheaper

[remote tiger]

Gotcha. Smart business’s tatic to offer without.

[late axle]

for sure

[faint wigeon]

Negative good sir, Kobra VR doesn't hold a candle to the mobility, speed, accuracy and flexibility of a FreedomStock, in Tabor 😉

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[hidden pecan]

just needs that international shipping

cant wait for it though

[remote tiger]

Yea I gotta agree. There are 2 types of stocks. Stocks that play good and stocks that look good

Make ur choice

[late axle]

Not trying to be a stickler here but I watched that video earlier which prompted me to post the Cobra VR link there is no fumbling with a magnet with kerber VR you simply reach for the gun and game and it grabs the stock I don't have to pay attention to the stock at all to click a magnet back

But I would definitely be interested in trying one out

Also sorry my talk to text is kind of ass right now LOL

[remote tiger]

That may be true but after playing 1 - 2 games it’s almost instinct where the proper place to put is it gets very intuitive very fast

[late axle]

I guess it just boils down to whatever works for you but I'm always open-minded to try other stocks

[remote tiger]

Yes different needs different stocks

[late axle]

Hell I've built a couple I've had a couple 3D printed ones and I've had some Frankensteins LOL

[split jay]

So just for the record, as long as my controllers are ON TOP of my stock, I shouldnt get any issues right?

[inland plover]

I found that 45-46 degrees works good with the Angle Pitch of your hand in settings. Each time I load a game, I go into settings and change it to either 45 or 46 and its better angle for my gun sock. Each one to his own though. Cause I built my own.

I also just now created(took about an hour) that DIY DonZzzilla(https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o) Fail Gun Stock 2.0, but made it my own 2.2 upgrade that has a pocket for the other hand and hot glue to make it solid.

[mortal parcel]

Bro tell me how you got it to work with this game because I have the kobra sidewinder and the alignment absolutely sucks rn until they allow a left/right offset/angle adjustment to the gunstock calibration

[late axle]

So I figured out a couple things
1st after I calibrate my guns and exit the menu I cannot grab anything. I found a fix for it though you have to go to the market and then back to your safe house then it registers your calibration
2nd the calibration is opposite meaning if you calibrate your gun to be perfect with your gun stock it's going to aim at the ground but if you make your gun aim up at almost a 40° angle in the calibration screen it it lines up with my gun stock like it should whenever I'm in game.

@mortal parcel

[fleet grove]

Should I just buy a gun stock on Amazon?

[mortal parcel]

But how do you make it line up like left and right because my gun is for some reason angled to the right

When I’m holding it with 2 hands

[late axle]

Twist your right controller to the left or right

If you're right-handed

[inland plover]

Make the the one I just posted first to see how it is. Then decide if you want to spend more money.

[lethal sinew]

Yo, thanks for sharing that. Love to see it. Beautiful iteration on the design. Hope it serves you well.

[icy cobalt]

Look at the user reviews thread attached to this chat

[inland plover]

Thank you! I found it to be better then my pvc pipe make. Its lighter and way easyer movement. Its great to see how just a simple build makes such a difference..

I am recommending everyone try your build first and then go from there..

[lethal sinew]

It's a gateway stock

[inland plover]

More then that, now with me.. Its my main!

I added a different attachment to the other handle and made a bit of adjustments with the angel(I use 30) inside game, but it is flawless!

[lethal sinew]

Is that a makeshift knuckle grip?

[inland plover]

I made it out of duck tape.. The black wrap.. But the white is a rubber kit I got with my headset rubber face mask. So the handles are rubber grip.

It was a bundle.

[lethal sinew]

Wow.

[inland plover]

That was the bundle I got.

[flat viper]

I got a set similar but in black

[zenith cliff]

Amvr slap mod on bowkvr DIY gunstock

[eternal fog]

anyone know where to get cheap gun stocks

[long kite]

I have the sidewinder. I have had no issues with mine. Not that I have noticed anyway.

[still crater]

@remote tiger has a good an cheap stock

[remote tiger]

Yes this is an issue for most gunstocks: some better than others

[twin thistle]

what’s up with the game gunstock settings not matching up with protube and also wehn detaching my hands they’re all messed up

[eager arch]

Yall like my DIY gunstock?

[faint wigeon]

You playing Thrill Of The Fight? lol

[remote tiger]

okay so tell me if im wrong. im not sure if it was the wipe or the oculus update but ever since then i have seen a influx of more and more users saying that their stocks dont line up

[eager arch]

Nah thrill of the tabor

I didn't need to follow a taborial to make it though

[pure crown]

No

10/10 for effort

[sleek oasis]

I keep losing my left hand when I attach it to my stock.
Floats into the air.
Not ideal for PvP can usually still get AI

[eager arch]

I don't like it either

It's unusable lol

[tame kite]

whats the Best gunstock under like 70 or smth????

for quest 2

[remote tiger]

for 85 you can get the freeom stock. for 32.91 i sell QuestStock v2.3.0
dm for some info in regards to that

[tame kite]

is there any on Amazon?

[remote tiger]

i dont sell on amazon i sell on etsy.
alot of the ones on there are no good quality wise

[tame kite]

oh I see

[remote tiger]

I would stay away from Istock as i have had a few come to me about trackign issues and it cracking

[tame kite]

it’s because I was looking on Amazon since that’s the place where I normally buy me accessories and stuff

[remote tiger]

yea i did the same thing. i realized how expensive they were for what you get on amazon so i made my own

[tame kite]

dsng

[mystic stump]

I feel like all they need to do to fix this game for gun stocks is not move the gun up like 15 degrees when you grab with your front hand

[remote tiger]

yes this game is def not the best for gunstock but you can make it work

[mystic stump]

the only gun I can use my gunstock for is the M14. all other guns I have to take my front and out and hold it bellow the gun stock

[tame kite]

fr I be aiming in and that thing turns another way

[remote tiger]

im sure they are wokring on it

[tame kite]

yeah

[remote tiger]

yea that seems to be a more common issue after the wipe

[mystic stump]

the SMGs are the worse

[remote tiger]

yes

[tame kite]

yeah it used to be not as bad but it got worse with the wipe

[mystic stump]

even when free handing you have to hold your front hand so low that the sensors on the quest don't see it

[tame kite]

i legit can’t aim from long range anymore

[modern mirage]

I killed myself with a ar 15 doing that

[mystic stump]

if you take any gun in the game, and just hold it in your back hand it looks great all lined up

and then when you grab with the front hand you see it shoot up. they just need to not do the whole "move up" thing and it would be fine

[tame kite]

oof

i hate it I have lost so much stuff from that

i lost a full kitted m4 with a drum magazine because it made me aim the other way

[mystic stump]

this video shows the issue

[remote tiger]

what do u have ur hand pitch setting to

[mystic stump]

Just default

[remote tiger]

mess around with thta

i have mine on 60

[mystic stump]

I have but that just janks stuff up even more

[remote tiger]

hmm

[mystic stump]

like for the MP5 I am showing here even if you pitch the gun down to the max, its not enough, and then it causes other interations to be a bit wierd I have noticed

and then when you just pick it up with one hand, its so twisted about that it feels wrong

if you watch the video they just need to not move the gun up when the front hand grabs it. this is an issue for many of the guns but SMGs are really bad with it

[lucid egret]

With virtual gun stock it wants my grip hand to be a lot lower than my firing hand. Is there any way to adjust that?

[spare lagoon]

on stocks such as the pro tube, what are the diameters of the tube? half inch?

[mystic stump]

yeah just about

[solemn mango]

Accidentally made it small as shit

[formal thorn]

I don't know how to make the controller holder

[coral solar]

that looks stupid as shit

[formal thorn]

I mean it works

[remote tiger]

ay yo @coral solar chill out bro

[solemn mango]

yeah

[formal thorn]

Fr diamond

[faint wigeon]

Haha I don't know why I read that to fast and it said "made it smell of shit"..

[solemn mango]

@formal thorn just take cardboard

[remote tiger]

@woeful walrus if it work it owrk man

[solemn mango]

dont even know if it works

gotta get in ghost of tabor first

[torpid dawn]

You gotta know they will rock your shit when they pull up with the hanger gunstock

[lethal sinew]

I've seen more jank in this channel. It's not bad imo

[formal thorn]

Dat what I got so far

[spare lagoon]

suggestions for a pipe hinge like this thats dirt cheap. not quite sure on searching and i dont want to print my own with teeth as i feel they would probably sheer over time unless i used nylon or something similar

[pure crown]

I wanna make a custom gunstock, but how do I deal with different gun lengths etc

[remote tiger]

like to sell or just for you?

[pure crown]

Just for me

[remote tiger]

well it all depends on what tools u have

do u have a 3d printer

[pure crown]

I have nothing in terms of tools and random junk I have in my room

[remote tiger]

then yea im sure there are ways but none that i can think of form just random thigns around ur rooom

for basic ones check out the thread they have some there

[formal nimbus]

If i was you man save 34 dollars

For the queststock i dint bought it already but i will

[remote tiger]

@formal nimbus are you refering to mine

[formal nimbus]

Yep

[remote tiger]

yea @pure crown i sell one for 32.91 if you are at all interested send me a dm

ohhhh @formal nimbus i see you are saying save up 34$ to buy mine

[formal nimbus]

Yea man the cheapest one for you guys but no for me XD

I hate tax

[remote tiger]

not* yea ur guys tax over there is insane

[formal nimbus]

Yep welcome to brasil rules there are no rules

[spare lagoon]

can i see a picture of what yours looks like

[remote tiger]

Just sent to u

[spare lagoon]

thank you

[dapper marten]

anyone using the sanlaki ?

[remote tiger]

everyone here having issues!!!!!
try this. trun on "Head movement" in movement settings.
i had a customer flip it and he says his works great!
not sure if it will solve your issues but worth a try!

[grave hill]

u happy with it ?

[pure crown]

I live in the uk mate, shipping would be crazy

[remote tiger]

20usd for shipping

[dapper marten]

not in got atm XD

[remote tiger]

Yes it is more expensive but still cheaper than most stocks

[pure crown]

Ye I'm broke as hell tbf haha

[remote tiger]

No worries man

[pure crown]

• I don't think the controller holder things would work for mine

Using a pico, they've got a weird design

[grave hill]

can u link me yours ? i wanna see it

[remote tiger]

Ahh yea

And for sure check ur dm

[pure crown]

Let's us have a look n all tho it sounds interesting

[remote tiger]

Dam heading ur way!

[mystic stump]

Yeah hand based movement in this game is jank. But if you figure out how its jank it starts to make sense. The movement favors control rotation too much. Ill make a video tonight

[remote tiger]

sounds good

anyone know if the conroler tilt setting works in standalone. someone has the setting but it doesnt do anything for them

[pure crown]

Pro british engineering

[hallow star]

hey i need some help i keep trying to calibrate my guns for my gunstock but everytime i grip on the front of my gun it moves up and to the right anyone know how to fix it

[pure crown]

Tension gunstock, you can loop the wire around the 2 knobs at the end very quickly in vr to adjust per gun

I like to personally wrap it around my fingers for a quick release

[paper linden]

i’m assuming i’m the only one using a ghetto ass 3d printed nerf gunstock

[final spruce]

Naw tha prob single shots people bruh w stock 😮‍💨

[trail lichen]

Do you use a gunstock? Are you having trouble calibrating since the wipe? Share more details to work towards resolving this bug here: https://discord.com/channels/949081704625209404/1132361839410425926

[sharp spire]

Not sure if anyone has discovered this with the quest pro controllers, but I’ve recently figured out why my gun won’t go boom sometimes during fights. I use the Sanlaki stock, and the magnets + metal poll is causing the trigger to freak out sporadically. It’s very noticeable on the quest screens, not so much on pcvr screens, but I can tell it affects the trigger pull in game. Going to try bottom mount to see if that clears the issue.

[sage canyon]

Good cheap gunstocks?

[remote tiger]

@faint wigeon has one for 85 that’s really good quality. I sell my brand for 32.91 and am currently working on my next model. Dm for info

@sage canyon

[faint wigeon]

Thanks @remote tiger ! Yeah check Toxics out for a great traditional style stock at a great price!

And mine can be found here:

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[hasty jungle]

@remote tiger Do you ship to the EU?

[remote tiger]

I do but shipping is a little more expensive than USA

[hasty jungle]

Figures

How much approx.?

[remote tiger]

20

That’s just how much USPS charged

[hasty jungle]

Mind linking me ur stuffs? 🙂

[remote tiger]

Ye I gotchu man

[hasty jungle]

Thanks

[inland plover]

Still bumping this gunstock because of how easy it is to make and low cost, light weight, better Stability/Accuracy, movement, and you are just plan better at the game.

https://youtu.be/R_HaTVXgz8o

[dusky path]

There's also the VRGM gunstock option

Might not be as available to make since its 3d print but I'm doing trips to the library to make mine

there's probably a remix for the pico controllers

[thick forge]

any good recommendations for a gunstock?

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[icy cobalt]

Go to the gunstock reviews thread attached to this channel.
We'd all tell you the ones we like, you need to decide what you want from a stock. Ie, I'd say bowk

[formal nimbus]

Yep u can buy the stock from cheesy or from @remote tiger

[remote tiger]

when i change my hand pitch rotation it works fine but then as soon as i grab anything my left had gets reverted back to its origional any ideas?

this wipe has busted alot of fucntionality

[digital gale]

3d printed this with my bud

[silver mist]

Grippers

Is that a hiking pole

[drowsy sierra]

make ur own from pvcp i9poels

[sly rock]

Finally got my stock for the psvr2 and quest ❤️ ty everyone for the help

[boreal remnant]

so close to releasing our stock 🙂

[remote tiger]

Looking good man!

[sour fossil]

Looks cool! And good for looting

[pure crown]

scott

please

please

add a campaign