🔫・vr-gunstock-chat

[formal kayak]

I gave my Magni+ to @tight torrent as I wasn't using it, but he is loving it, so that is an option too.

[lament flame]

wish someone could stream playing a game while using it so i can see it more in action. i have the magtube and dont like how small the magnets
are and how angled there are but the mamut looks really promising. may just sell mine on ebay and get the mamut

[jagged girder]

are there any good budget half stocks for quest 2?

[formal kayak]

I own this and its solid. https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1489905143/sanlaki-pullstock-elite-vr-gun-stock-for?click_key=587b00d0d829e97ed68ad469390ffcedccdeda2f%3A1489905143&click_sum=08adc463&ref=shop_home_recs_8

I dont use it anymore, but it did me well for a time.

[jagged girder]

did it get in the way of other things such as looting while using it?

[formal kayak]

Not at all.

The only reason its sits in my drawer as I got fully addicted to Vr so naturally ended up escelating to other products.

None of which make me any less shite by the way. 😄

[lament flame]

wait

twitch link? ill watch you

that sounded creppy lol

nvm found you. you should stream with the cam on more offten

looks way better then the magtube the way you attach and detach looks like the magnets are strong and forces your hand to attach when u get close

[lofty gorge]

OH YEA magnets are SUPER strong lmao, ngl i used to have an unneeded fear of pinching myself between the magnets lol. But its pretty much impossible if not trying to do it on purpose

[lofty gorge]

and hell yea, looking to get it up and going here again soon

this was like my first time playing almost the day of or day after of launch, also sorry about screaming to my dog outside lol

[lament flame]

lol its all good. just posted my magtube for sale lol will look forward getting the mamut

[lofty gorge]

[tight torrent]

@digital wadi Yeah the Magni+ is a great stock to use on GoT. Shout out to discuit for being a legend

[ember wasp]

Anyone else's tomahawk being held up by customs rn? Was supposed to be delivered yesturday

[remote tiger]

If I am correct anything that has to go through customs has to have what it is written on the outside. Anything with the word gun I’m sure will be checked lol

Or maybe it’s from certain countries

[formal kayak]

I was expecting taxes etc, but nothing, just arrived

[safe carbon]

Mine was in customs for a month

[ember wasp]

Good God. I hope my wait won't be that long

[eager timber]

Again, people continue to put comments like this and don't actually answer my question. To the few people that actually answered that question properly, thanks. XD I never asked for peoples Opinions on if a gunstock is better than free hand for vr or not. Because that is irrelevant. And it is. If the stock helps you, good for you. That was the answer to the question. If you're gonna send references to pros or IRL. You've missed the point entirely and just proved you can't stay on topic and have to interject your own opinion to feel validated.
You girls sending paragraphs ain't reading my initial question, and it shows with the responses.

Let me reiterate for the illiterate.

"Who prefers to use gunstocks or not? I personally do not."

But God knows you'll not read that either.

[winged parcel]

damn, someone's mad 😳 I think the illiteracy shows in the fact you aren't able to discern an answer from the replies you've gotten, and the fact that you are in a chat made for gunstocks. And mind you, I did not reply to that message, i replied to yours claiming gunstocks are personal preference - #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

and then, you continued w the conversation, you did not stop to remind me that your main question was the one you mentioned, but you kept going on about how achievable freehand skill is. seems only after that dude noted the impact of stocks irl that you yielded to ur original question

but ay u do u bro :) most people here use a stock.... bcus its a gunstock chat.... does that answer ur question lol

[remote tiger]

lollllllll

[formal kayak]

Im shit...my gunstocks made me better...the end. If you can freehand that aim at long distance good for you, I can't so I bought a stock...and I love it (them).

Thats my response....

[winged parcel]

well said discuit
it is preference, as we all have choice in life, doesn't mean that theres not a difference made definitive by the frequency of improvements almost all people irl or in a game find in using a stock

[formal kayak]

Im old, my reflexes and steadiness arent what they were when I was 20, so yeh, for me its made a massive difference.

By a stock, don't buy a stock, why you'd come in to a "gunstock-chat" channel and decry using stocks is beyond me.

[remote tiger]

@formal kayak FACTS

[formal kayak]

Ask Scott to create a "we are gunstcok free legends come ask us why" channel?

[winged parcel]

lol

[formal kayak]

Its like going into McDonalds and asking for whopper and then being mad when they say we don't sell whoppers..

and then starting a petition in store for mcDonalds to explain why they don't sell whoppers...

This world...honestly... 😄

[formal kayak]

I gave you some shite in the finding group channel, just FYI, just hope you took it thr right way. 😄

[remote tiger]

ahh no worries man check ur dm

[formal kayak]

People need to learn to chill the fek out, I literally had an argument with SKOL in which he said some stuff and then I called him a nutcase....20 minutes later I ordered more upgrades. from him. 😄

[winter gyro]

Are we discussing the need for gun stocks today?

[formal kayak]

😄

[winter gyro]

Just got one, big difference in my shooting. But I think I could steady my hand enough to not need on the future

[formal kayak]

No. No one NEEDS them, but some of us LOVE them. 😄

[winter gyro]

I, too, love them

[remote tiger]

my hands shake and it really helps in the long range

[formal kayak]

Same, im older, so my steadiness is not like a 20 year old, wtf would I not embrace something that both immerses me, and makes me aim better? If I was young and didnt need one would I buy one? Well...probably yes, but when I was 20 odd I didn't earn enough money to do so. 😄

[royal wagon]

More importantly than wether it not it makes you better, it’s way more fun to use a gunstock

[remote tiger]

well @formal kayak im 21 and i have shakey hands lol idk how ima fucntion when im older lol

[formal kayak]

I do....with a Toxic_smoke gunstock!

[remote tiger]

@formal kayak thats exactly why i sell mine for 30$ bc ik people who cant afford them or just dont want to spend hella money

most people who play vr are young

[formal kayak]

Honestly i applaud your endevour as I'm sure you can tell.

[formal kayak]

Really? the people I play with are all 30+, thats because this is what we dreamed of at teens. 😄

[faint wigeon]

Not sure if this has been metioned, I haven't had the time to back track the entire convo lol. But for me, I like having a gunstock for the physical feedback and representation of holding the object (firearm) in real life. Aside from the other benefits it adds, for me its all about that physical feedback.

[remote tiger]

i really app it!
the only stock i would and have been recomending to people other than mine is the freedom stock

[formal kayak]

This! 100%

[remote tiger]

yea @formal kayak i heard a stat somewhere that said the majority of vr is made up of under 18

[formal kayak]

It makes me feel like rambo at the end of first blood.

[remote tiger]

either way lol

[formal kayak]

well I'm 98, so thats ruins that stat 😄

[remote tiger]

aint no way

[formal kayak]

For me gunstocks are like, a toy. I remember being like 12-13 and playing warhammer with farking toy soldeirs as we couldn't afford the real thing, so now I'm older, I'm like, lets farking try that...and that...and that! 😄

No im just over 40 🙂

Like who is being harmed by people buying stuff from mostly one person teams with a passion?

Especially in a game where good players don't NEED this tool to compete, its not like its a barrier to entry, its just a personal choice.

[ember wasp]

Gunstock are definitely personal preference, however if you have shaky hands, want full immersion, or just want something that feels like a real gun, they're great. I used to shoot competitively irl so just having that "real" gun feel helps alot

[wild ruin]

from the very first moment I tried a VR FPS back in 2017 I knew free hand wasn't for me. To me a gunstock for VR FPS is like having a racing wheel for race sim. It adds so much immersion and more importantly easily consistent precision.

I tried airsoft many years back but unfortunately where I live locally there isn't really an airsoft scene and it is mostly centered around kids and so strict on airsoft gun fps limitations that even the airsoft guns sold in my area are banned 😂 VR FPS with a gunstock, especially with the ForceTube haptics is a great alternative when airsoft just isn't practical or viable

[near dove]

i just got an index does anyone have any good recomendations

[winter gyro]

This. For a dad gamer like myself I can't sweat for 8+ hrs so the few hours I do get to play, I'd like the best experience as possible. And for now, gunstock, steady aim, and some gun fights do it for me

[winter gyro]

Glistco magnistock+, not very expensive and not terribly cheap.

[near dove]

aight ill check it out thanks

[winter gyro]

Good luck. Amazon can get it to you in one week. Not sure what spending more actually yields but they get crazy

[near dove]

i just picked up a stock for my quest 2 litterally a day before i said fuck it and bought my index so i already know what to kinda expect

[royal wagon]

Magtube

[winter gyro]

Damn lol. I bought a spine gunstock for quest 2 then decided I wanted an index lmao

[near dove]

i got a buddy who hates his spine so i figured id stay away from those

[winter gyro]

I read after I returned it that undermounted rails are better; they don't interfere with signal from controllers

[fiery marsh]

My custom stock came in today!!! Thanks @timber shore

[winter gyro]

That's a nice looking stock!

[fiery marsh]

Thanks 🙏🏼

[native fable]

Will trade 4 ak alpha's for a good VR stock 😂

[winter gyro]

I duct taped my controllers to my rifle (no mag ofc) and it's amazing

[winged parcel]

will trade my fortnite account for the mamut 💀

[noble smelt]

Skull plug to cap my copper tube.

[stark hornet]

What's the best budget vr stock for under 80 bucks or so. I was looking at the istock but I need a stock to stabilize for longer range shots and consistent positioning of the red dot

[lethal sinew]

My suggestion: https://www.freedomstockvr.com/
(When it's back in stock ofc) should be soonish. He's waiting on new springs to come in.

[feral rune]

how much is it it looks cool

[remote tiger]

i wana say 75

[lethal sinew]

I paid $75 (no tax)
Sign up for his notification on the site I linked.

[weary leaf]

is there any gunstock where i can reload and switch to my secondary fast

[obsidian sphinx]

https://www.glistco.com/products/magni-stock-carbon-fiber i have this one and its fire

[weary leaf]

and can i switch from secondary fast?

[obsidian sphinx]

its magnet based so yeah you just twits it off and thats it

[weary leaf]

ok

[obsidian sphinx]

go see reviews on youtube you will understand

[exotic sinew]

How do u guys grab stuff when u got a stock? Is it not annoying

Oh magnet

[obsidian sphinx]

ni its magnets so really easy to get off

[faint wigeon]

Its $75 (w/free priority shipping). Im currently closed as I work on my current orders, but if you use the form like @lethal sinew mentioned, you'll get notified when its back open! (which should be about next week).

[pure crown]

Where can I buy a good gun stock

[formal kayak]

KobraVr sidewinder

[obsidian sphinx]

glistco one won my heart

[native fable]

Pro tube or Tamahawk?

[pure crown]

I don't have a gun stock good by

[lethal sinew]

pro tube imo

[native fable]

Okay

[thick dragon]

yo, is there a stock calibration feature?

[feral rune]

mods lol

who do I ping

[lethal sinew]

<@&951226039890231347>

[wild zenith]

not yet bro its on the way

[short bloom]

I had this but swapped to the 3daptive Modus R. No magnets and comes standard with a shotgun spring handle

[obsidian sphinx]

@short bloom i cant play with one without magnets idk why but i cant aim if i can move one or both of my hands freely

@short bloom hoooooo shiet i just looked at it look kinds good i thought you were talking about one thats you just get youre controller on it and like try yhoure best to leave it on it but yeah looks insane too

[short bloom]

Yeah I do like the glistco but it's magnets sometimes messed up my tracking .... this one is solid

[obsidian sphinx]

@short bloom i tried a bunch that i have returned because of tracking i never had problems with the glistco one but i get why you like the 3daptive i will probably try it when i get frustrated about mine hahaha

[short bloom]

This one comes with "knuckles" style straps as well integrated into the grips

[obsidian sphinx]

ooh cool i bought som from kiwi but dosent fit with the glistco cups

[short bloom]

This stocks "grips" replace the battery cover and are very comfortable

[obsidian sphinx]

sick ill try it sometime

[short bloom]

I can take pictures when I get home if you want

[thick dragon]

niiice

[obsidian sphinx]

i saw on etsy looks very good ill wait for my pc and get a link and pullys and after ill see looks very good tho

[short bloom]

Cool

[obsidian sphinx]

i get it in 3 days and after that ill get a link im done with standalone

[thick dragon]

@kind lichen

custom magtube, optimised for rigidity and gunstock calibration

never loses its alignment, allows for a strong shoulder weld and check weld

[short bloom]

Man I hate stand alone... I just wish I hadn't purchased Ghosts on oculus app... cause this quest 2 is getting replaced asap with index(then bigscreen beyond)

[thick dragon]

the foam removes sharp edges and reflections

[obsidian sphinx]

@short bloom i will stay with oculus but ill link it i dont need another vr when i can get the job done with the quest i just need a fan because it fogs up alot hhahaa

[short bloom]

@obsidian sphinx this was a $180 ebay buy cause I wasn't sure if I was going to like VR... now I know that I like it .... time to dive in full send

[obsidian sphinx]

@short bloom i got mine 2 years ago for 400$ i dont want to change too expensive hahahha

[short bloom]

@obsidian sphinx got mine may 1st.... already have 348 hours in Tabor lol

[obsidian sphinx]

@short bloom i havent played alot on tabor i did like 1-2 raids but i really like it but i need to do 1 raid than charge up so i just play onward and some contractors with my shitty pc and airlink hahahha

[short bloom]

@obsidian sphinx what link cable did you get?

[obsidian sphinx]

@short bloom https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/gp/product/B09TN25765/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ANYCM9RSLDH7Y&psc=1

[short bloom]

I got the jsaux and stream like 14 hours

[obsidian sphinx]

i will take this one because the others are unavailable were i live

@short bloom if you can dm me the link ill see if its available were i live

@short bloom not available pretty shitty being in canada for those kinda stuff

[gilded nymph]

ok but like
if you use a gunstock. it's made for 2handed weapons

the fuck you gonna do when you find a pistol

serious question 😵

[obsidian sphinx]

get the gunstock on the sling and use youre hands hahahha

[gilded nymph]

yeah but that shit looks strapped on tight to your remotes

[obsidian sphinx]

no its magnets or just holding on the gunstock

[gilded nymph]

🧑‍🌾 well then

[thick dragon]

yeah, magnets, you can transition super quick after 4 years of use!

[obsidian sphinx]

i had tracking isues with that stock

[thick dragon]

i wonder what headset you were using? was it a chrome base?

[obsidian sphinx]

quest 2 so i guess it sucks at tracking hahah

[thick dragon]

one of my onward team mates uses a quest 2 with a custom stock, and doesnt have issues,

all comes down to making sure the headset can see the rings well

[obsidian sphinx]

i guess mine is brocken ahahahah

[mental pier]

So im sure a decent lil bit of this may come down comfortability and adjusting a bit as needed but does anyone have tips for how they have their protube set up

[wild ruin]

https://clips.twitch.tv/PricklyTubularBarracudaPicoMause-vxFUP585vkUbiZyi

[candid cove]

Waiting for my Ghost Spine to get here 😢

Haptic feedback Protube

[winged parcel]

nah Mamut Pro thingie, idk why people would want haptics other than immersion, not sure physical kickback would help w aim stability lol

[candid cove]

makes it feel more realistic

[surreal quarry]

That’s like 300 usd no?

[candid cove]

yeah

or no

[surreal quarry]

I know it has its uses but I can’t see why would you spend that much for ffb

[candid cove]

its $404

[surreal quarry]

When the standard pro tube is only like 120 or something

WHAT THE FUCK $400!!!!!

[candid cove]

if you have extra idk

[candid cove]

yep

[surreal quarry]

It costs even more if you wanted to add the force after you buy the Protube (429)

Also I don’t know how the bipod can be useful in VR. Seems like it’ll just get in the way more

[winged parcel]

for super sweats who physically want to lay down and be a sniper or prop their stock on their table, although i could probably just use the barrel end of any stock

[eager turtle]

anyone know how to calibrate the gunstock properly? Its just point and shoot for me not down my sights.

[vernal plaza]

Best part all of those furys a men

[wary heron]

are you sure its not crossbuy? or is the pc version steam only?

[faint wigeon]

Its crossbuy between Quest 2 & Meta PC, but not Quest 2 and Steam

[wary heron]

yea.. so he can just use the oculus pc store version to play on pc vs standalone

[faint wigeon]

Only if he uses his Quest 2 for PCVR, far as I know, you cant play Oculus games on PC with a non-Quest or Rift.

[wary heron]

well he said he hates standalone, so he is using a quest 2

also said he has one i guess lol

and theres re-vive, it lets you use oculus games on steamvr

[faint wigeon]

Hmmm, now im confused lol. But if he's planning on replacing his Q2 with an Index (which is what it sounds lie), then he'll need to repurchase the game on steam

[faint wigeon]

It does, ive no experiance with that tho so I cant say how well/if that'll work.

[wary heron]

yea, idk why he didnt check oculus pc to see if he could click get. and just hook it up

replacing headset before doing research

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[faint wigeon]

~~Wait a minute, am I reading this correctly. If you buy the Tomahawk gunstock for $170 +shipping, but you are left handed,

You then have to pay an additional $100 +shipping ontop of that for a "left handed conversion kit" just to use the thing?

Surely thats not right?~~

Nevermind I see on the tomahawk listing it has the left handed or right handed option. Not sure why the conversion kits still on the site tho, and if you pick left handed you still have to pay an addition $12 ($182 vs $170)

[kind lichen]

TOMAHAWK USERS:
What about it is less smooth or ‘clunky’ feeling when playing GoT? For example I can see how loading pistols might cause some clashing.
Disclaimer: I am a huge fan of the gunstock and also understand that this is before any gunstock calibration has been added to the game

[short bloom]

No I have it on the oculus app (PC) and play it via a link cable BUT I can't use that copy of the game with a good quality PCVR headset like bigscreen beyond... so I purchased it on steam also but once I go to Bigscreen the oculus app copy will be worthless

[formal kayak]

Honestly I have no clunkiness with at all. The rebind is quick and seamless, the grips are solid as fuk and just generally I love it. I have no issues reloading pistols this far. Of my stocks they go like this Tomahawk then Sidewinder then Magni+ ( which I gave away recently). It's expensive yes, but the build quality is sensational.

[tight torrent]

Magni+ all the way 😂😂

[formal kayak]

Hahaha I'm glad you're enjoying it. It's a great stock, I just personally prefer the smaller ones. That's the beauty of the hobby, different course for different horses. 😉

[formal kayak]

You did let me die a few times last night so it can't be that good....or maybe that was the red wine on my part. 🤣🤣

Thanks for all your help my my new headphones and strap etc too bro, much appreciated.

[tight torrent]

Of course man 🙂 you'll be hearing everyone across the map now 😂😂

[cedar jay]

Hey! I Wana hear yalls setups for your oculus's. I'm looking to buy a battery strap gun stock and headphones but I'm 2 broke at the moment but I want to hear some of some other peoples

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

[mental pier]

you really dont need anything crazy, if you want a gunstock there are id say like 4 tiers of prices. you could do a super cheap build by making it yourself, next step for $30 @remote tiger is your best bet, next step a middle price is @faint wigeon for $75 (only ships usa), then you have the spensive bois like Protube for around like $180 which there ups and downs for all different options but with some adjusting im sure youd be happy with all of them. each stock however is better and worse ad different things

aside from that really all you need is a decent open space

as for like battery strap and all, i have the elite strap with battery, but 3rd party ones like the kiwi strap is also really nice

[cedar jay]

So the 30$ option would it break quickly or?

[cedar jay]

The kiwi one is the one I was looking at

[mental pier]

the $30 wont break quickly no, ive seen a good bit from it. if you TRY to break it then it will break but if you just use it as a gunstock then no it wont just break. I will say im a second hand source for that one as ive not bought that one, but toxic makes a good product that he really could make cost like 50 and some change instead of 30, but he also wants to keep it as affordable as possible because 1 he wants as many people to be able to get them as possible, and 2 hes carving out his own niche as you CANT get a better built stock for cheaper or even the same price. like i said above i dont think its a $75+ stock but its def worth $50

[cedar jay]

Ahh ok because I want to try one before I got and spend a crap ton of money on something I may not even like

[mental pier]

also things like KIWI straps for your controller is a great addition, much better than the base straps for the q2 controller

[mental pier]

yeah thats 100% fair, i dont know if hes on rn but@remote tiger is a great guy, super active here usually and generally asks for a dm convo with the people looking to buy his product

i imagine to sort out details and all

[cedar jay]

I sent him a DM asking for some info on the stock such as what it looks like how long it is etc etc

[mental pier]

ye gotcha gotcha, glad i could help give you some options

[cedar jay]

Thank you the only options I've been recommended is like 100$

[mental pier]

yeahhhhhh the vr gunstock market is SUPPPPER overpriced in general imo. the ones i mentioned above are what i think are best for their price points in what ive seen. toxic has a simple but good stock, cheesy has a SUPER unique and cool stock, and protube has an extremely adjustable stock

wheras most stocks from around $80-100 are just copy and paste stocks that should be sold for around $50-60 to be worth it

[faint wigeon]

Yeah most gunstocks are very much extremely overpriced. Its a niche market full of DIY guys, which is awesome, but with that small market of makers means people can get away with jacking up their prices to dramatically inflate their profit margins even if their product is not worth the asking price (im looking at you Tomahawk).

@remote tiger has a great stock for the price, really $30 for a basic off the printer into a mail box stock with little/ to no extra parts or extra work, he really has priced his well.

Mine has moving parts, and takes more prep work to construct and polish, but I also include free 2-3 day (US) shipping in my price, as well as it comes included with integrated knuckle grips, ive felt my $75 price is super reasonable for what's offered, compared to other stocks in my price range that offer nothing new and are just over engineered with unnecessary design elements to "look cool".

[remote tiger]

@faint wigeon i app it my man!

[cedar jay]

I don't have the 75 to put into it sadly

[ripe rivet]

Oh man , this looks awesome , just tried to buy but you don’t ship to uk

[remote tiger]

@ripe rivet check ur dm

[faint wigeon]

Yeah unfortunately currently there are some current logistics that make international shipping not possible for me at the moment. Thanks so much for the support tho!

[dusty grove]

👀what headphones are they I'm still looking for options

[potent bolt]

@dusty grove I’m using the sound core vr10 headphones with my quest 2 with airlink

[dusty grove]

dont really enjoy buds for that long of ghaming sessions

[potent bolt]

They hook up to my phone also at the same time so I don’t miss any work calls or anything (I repair air conditioning so my work schedule is really random lol) but they have a dongle for the quest and Bluetooth to the phone

Yeah they’re definitely not for everyone it just kinda works for my specific use case

[dusty grove]

yeah i had seen them they look cool im just looking for an option that are not buds

thanks for the suggestion

[faint wigeon]

No worries at all bro!

[fast gate]

Should I get a gunstock any tips or tricks or suggestions

[potent bolt]

The stocks help but if you are short on cash or not super invested in vr shooters enough yet to justify buying one you can enable a virtual stock in the settings and I ran a bunch of practice raids so I wouldn’t lose gear. It feels kinda janky at first but it helps once you’re used to it

[icy cobalt]

Imo, if cost and durability are a concern, get a DIY kit from bowk or someone else and spend 5$ on 18mm delrin rods.

If you have access to a 3d printer, theres printable pieces of hardware out there.
And for whatever reason, 18mm seems to be the tube size for everyone

[remote tiger]

I might be only one out here but I despise virtual gunstocks

[potent bolt]

Nah I don’t think they are great by any means. But after I got used to the virtual stock I do believe it helped my aim without a physical stock. My muscle memory is off in vr because I’m so used to shooting and handling real guns lol

[remote tiger]

Fair enough

@pure crown check ur dm

[surreal quarry]

And you make them 😂

[remote tiger]

yes and no. i dispise them even before i made them. i perfered no stock compared to virtural and still do

[carmine tinsel]

[swift nebula]

#🤝・pvp-groupfinder only

[wanton wagon]

One question i have with stocks generally. how do people find it when not using 2 handed rifles/generally other stuff in this game where a stock would more so get in the way. i see some stocks offer slings etc does that generally help and how is it tryna get reattached quickly as such when needed? seems a cool concept for purely shooter based games but just curious how they would work more for games like tabor

[remote tiger]

i keep my right hand controler inside the stock and act like its not there

its only like 8oz so really easy to swing around

[wanton wagon]

fair enough. just feel like i would end up unintentially hitting something or myself xD

[remote tiger]

nah you get used to it quite fast.
ill send you a vid to your dm to see

[wanton wagon]

appreciate it

[remote tiger]

Got it sent for you

[potent bolt]

My man is getting that good marketing in today 😜

[winged parcel]

slings help incredibly, it's very nice, i just twist my controllers out and it drops to my body, it rarely is a burden to have the stock hanging on you but sometimes it can get in the way of grabbing chest items and quick spins w my handgun might swing it a lil

[potent bolt]

Not my man. But like. You know what I’m saying lmao.

[winged parcel]

oooooo u and toxic sitting on the tree
K I SS I N G

[remote tiger]

ay ay ay 30$ is 30$

however you choose to spend it...

[potent bolt]

I gotta make my money to pay for gunstocks somehow.

[remote tiger]

lolll

[potent bolt]

Air conditioners don’t break all year long in the south lmao.

[winged parcel]

gotta break in and break their AC

easy clients

[wanton wagon]

what stock do u use?

[winged parcel]

i use a cheap $40 stock off ebay

[wanton wagon]

looks interesting xD

[winged parcel]

yeah it's real nice for the price, does the job and really comfortable

[tacit ruin]

Lul was about to say we got the same one but your the same guy from the contractors server

[pale sinew]

Ngl Whats some good cheap ones for quest 2?

[remote tiger]

hey @pale sinew ima send you some info check ur dm in regards to cheap stocks

[shadow pewter]

Yo I have never had a gun stock and was going to buy one but I don’t know any thing about them anyone got any suggestions

[remote tiger]

@shadow pewter check ur dm ima send some info to it

@faint wigeon @shadow pewter price range is around 100$ and i let him know that you had a great stock for sale so he has a few questions

[winged parcel]

oh yeahhh lmao, bad news, back stock snapped 💀 not sure whether to glue it or to contact the seller for replacement

[faint wigeon]

Contact seller, if he doesn't replace it then take (liquid not gel) super glue, apply a handsome amount to the pieces,

Push the pieces together, and add glue to the edges of the break and then sprinkle a very liberal amount of baking soda over all the super glue, cover the whole thing.

Let it dry for 30mins to an hour, then dust it off.

The glue and baking soda create a chemical reaction which results in a very strong bond, this is what I personally use on any personal 3D prints that break.

Granted if the piece your glueing is quite large, your results may vary.

[winged parcel]

@faint wigeon legend, thanks a lot, going to the shops rn to grabs liquid gorilla glue

area is just about the size of a usb stick but smaller, 3cm estimate.

now to clarify, apply the liquid glue between/within the pieces i am glueing, do i just do a small push together or enough so that they at least retain a connection? and then after that i additionally apply the same glue around the exterior of the connection and cover that with baking soda

[high mountain]

any recommendation of a gunstock?

[twin oriole]

Oven gun stock owen summ like that@high mountain

[winged parcel]

budget? region?

[high mountain]

north america, around 80

[high mountain]

olen vr?

[winged parcel]

I'd say you're between 2 choices

The Freedom Stock - https://www.freedomstockvr.com/
Good for agility, ideal for Tabor as you'd be looting alot, intuitive design

or

The Magni Stock+ - https://www.glistco.com/products/magni-stock-carbon-fiber
Lot's of adjustability for preference with a larger back stock that can act as a Cheekrest

[faint wigeon]

Correct glue in-between like you normally would.

Push the pieces together.

Then add more glue to the outter seam of the break.

Then add the baking soda to the outter seam.

And also pro tip, when fully dry, you can also sand the super glue down as well for a nice smooth finish.

[stark hornet]

I found this at my workplace.

[remote tiger]

@high mountain check ur dm

Whoever just sent me a dm pls send another I hit the wrong button and can’t figure out who it was

[winter gyro]

I vouch for magnistock played for about 1 wk with it on index. Andy stability is God tier now. I thought $80 was just right price; not too cheap nor expensive. Worth the buy

[remote tiger]

yea cheezy has a good stock for sure

[winter gyro]

I ended up buying one for my brother too. Glad I changed my mind from the Olen VR "spine" model

For consideration; I've read that top mounted rails on VR stock designs can potentially affect the signal of the controllers

[remote tiger]

yes i have heard that as well

[twin oriole]

@high mountain yep olen

[winged parcel]

olen overpriced

[winged parcel]

certainly does, i feel like top mounted should be reserved for budget stocks, especially with the fat prop on the top of the bar on olen, i feel it would have bad tracking

[winter gyro]

Yeah I agree. They appeal for just looks. I was surprised the Olen costed so much. Wonder if there are known signal issues

[winged parcel]

yeah i really see no reason to have that blocky stuff on the top, i get the whole immersion thing but you won't even see it lmao. thankfully you can take it off

[rancid stream]

This any good? https://a.co/d/9959Cox

[winter gyro]

Yeah I have that one

[remote tiger]

@rancid stream check ur dm

[slow frigate]

What’s the latest on gunstock calibration?

[lethal sinew]

maybe in the patch tonight?

[tacit pike]

this is HUUUGE4

GUNSTOCK CALIBRATION FINALLY

[lethal sinew]

[icy cobalt]

Watch any of us stock users use a bolt action. Regardless of build, and we can and do argue what's best all day, they're all build to easily attach and detach controllers. After you've played with one a couple days, you barely even think about it.

[icy cobalt]

Bowk. I started with a mamut, and tried a couple of the magnet stocks. The stiffness, durability, cheek weld, and physical connection of the bowk is superb.

[tacit pike]

cant wait to make my 360 noscope mlg montage cus i can finally use snipers if this works properly

[austere pine]

With gunstock calibration being added I might pull the plug now. Anyone got recommendations on fast UK suppliers? 👍🏻

[terse ibex]

I have it, would not recommend

[formal kayak]

Can someone link me to where it has been stated or alluded to that gunstock calibration is coming a patch tonight or before July 1st? Thanks!!

[dusty grove]

Yeah I have one it's pretty good just takes a bit of time to get used to it and the set up can be alot easier if you have someone to help while your in vr

[coral lake]

Does got have ForceTube Support?

[wanton wagon]

I’m more on about two handed stuff where u would be taking both on and off like if both are off how hard is it reconnecting etc etc

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/its-happening-friday-gif-12932795

Gunstock Calibration is finally here!

[still crater]

And it's broken for me XD

[faint wigeon]

Oh no! How so?

[still crater]

The calibration screen works as it should but the calibration doesn't save on the actual weapons

Or at least it feels like it

[faint wigeon]

Ooh, thats not good, that defeats the purpose entirely. The issues ive had are that when I calibrate I cant two hand a gun with my off hand. Then also I need to load the market then go back to the bunker before I can grab any gun off the wall.

But not having it save the calibration at all is way worse.

[still crater]

Same for me

[faint wigeon]

I did have to double calibrate the SMG's before it actually saved tho. Perhaps thats similar to what you're experiencing and just need to do multiple calibrations? (which now that im saying that, im sure you probably did lol).

[still crater]

Yeah i probably saved like 5 times and still nothing

I'll try it again give me a sec

[winged parcel]

HOW IS IT GUYS? IS IT LIKE CONTRACTORS

[still crater]

Yeah pretty much

I fixed it

[remote tiger]

Yes how is the calibration?

[still crater]

I just saved a couple more times and it saved for the ak

[still crater]

It's good if it works and doesn't break like mine did

[remote tiger]

Sickkk

[faint wigeon]

Yeah basically like contractors

[winged parcel]

YESSSSSSSS YEAHHHH

[sour fossil]

It does

[buoyant sable]

Anyone use a magnetic break stock?

I kinda like the idea of a magnet so you can still use both controllers and not need to find the controler cups

[remote tiger]

anyone know how to actually set the calibration i dont see the setting

[icy cobalt]

Same applies. It's no more difficult taking off both hands

[remote tiger]

i see enable physical gunstock thats it

[still crater]

Enable phys gunstock and then calibrate phys gunstock

Oh and you have to do it in ur bunker

[remote tiger]

ty

[deep condor]

Anyone got the hang of the calibration yet? Mine seems to mess up my hand pitch rotation settings among other things.

[still crater]

Same i got the ak and the sniper to work the rest is not saving

Hand pitch is also messed up for me

[deft timber]

I cannot get the calibration to work correctly at all. You calibrate it for the AK and then go grab an AR you have and if you throw a grip on it the angle is suddenly waaay off

Anyone been able to get grip and non grip to work with the Rifles? I haven't even moved onto anything else yet because I cannot figure this out

[ember wasp]

Anyone test out calibration with the tomahawk yet?

[faint wigeon]

Yeah calibration is off, its fine in bunker but when I get into raid it doesnt stick

[deep condor]

Yea, it's still pretty rough. I'm going to do more testing today. Listening to contractors vr gunstock calibration videos for some tips.

[faint wigeon]

Yeah Tomahawk doesn't have any room for adjustment/angles, it relies soley on in game calibration. Which in my opinion is a huge flaw especially for the price tag its asking for.

[ember wasp]

You should tag or dm me if you figure it out. My tomahawk should be here within the week

[winged parcel]

damnnn calibration jus made everything worse

[remote tiger]

ooffff

[royal wagon]

This is just the first version, it’s going to improve

[winged parcel]

ofc ofc ik

[crimson tartan]

Wait can you calibrate wepons now?

[remote tiger]

yes

[crimson tartan]

How?

[remote tiger]

turn on physical gunstock

go to safe house open settigns again and calabrate gunstock

[winter gyro]

I came here to see how stock calibration was going

[ember wasp]

The general consensus is so far is its rough, but works.

[royal wagon]

the first generation of the gunstock calibration is limited, it will be expanded in the future

[winter gyro]

Would you say better or worst than before ?

[royal wagon]

it lets you make adjustments, so its not really a better or worse situation, its a feature that didnt exist before

[winter gyro]

Interesting. Ok, look forward to tinkering with it

[ember wasp]

From what I understand, it's very similar to contractors gunstock calibration. That might help you get a baseline

[dawn fossil]

Has anyone tested it for the mamut stock yet?

[royal wagon]

nothing specific about the mamut

[deft timber]

I'm finding it much worse than before even when yurned off.

[winged parcel]

w my stock, its worse
idk about the big names tho

[winter gyro]

Noooo. Anyone having issues with magnistock?

[winged parcel]

magni would prob work pretty well w all the adjustment options

[winter gyro]

Hoping I don't need too much adjusting.

[deft timber]

Ok gang I did a bunch more testing. For me I'm finding the calibration is worse then when it's off IF you have a stock that will allow for a significant amount of customization in your front hand's grip location. IF you have a stock that offers you significant ability to adjust the front then try these steps:

1. clear any stock calibration you've completed and disable stock calibration
   2)grab a gun of your choice and shoulder it using only the rear grip (hand you pull the trigger with)

3. go into the menu and adjust the hand rotation until when the gun is shouldered (ONLY using your firing hand) it feels comfortable and you have a clear view aiming down the sights.

4. physically adjust the location of the front controller so that while holding the gun with your firing hand the front controller (in game hand) lines up with the grab point for the front of the gun.

I perform all these steps using an ar like ak or m4 as these are what I want to be setup perfect.

After doing this I can pretty much attain my manual stock positioning from before patch

[winter gyro]

This is the golden post I've been waiting for

[deft timber]

If it doesn't make sense let me know

It's critical that your two controllers can be adjusted independently from each other and aren't on the same plane/pipe/rail or whatever

[native fable]

@deft timber what VR stock are you using?

[unkempt dagger]

just calibrated and it felt a lot better. I used to have to wiggle my stock a lot, but now i just need minor adjustements when i shoulder the guns

[deft timber]

I have a custom stock that allows for setting the height of the cheek rest and shoulder interface. It also has a joint between the controllers so they can be adjusted on seperate plains like the protube/magnistock/or glistco to name a few.

planes*

[rocky kindle]

Whats a cheap and reliable stock for oculus someone could send me?

[polar jewel]

Many types for many budgets at https://www.mint3d.design/

[rocky kindle]

🙏

[native fable]

Where did you get yours?

[deft timber]

@native fable It's a prototype in development right now to mimic the ergonomics of AR's more accurately

[native fable]

Sounds interesting, can we see a picture?

[proven silo]

dang they have a whole bunch of stocks

[deft timber]

Guys to test if your stock is setup properly for Tabor do the following:
1)Shoulder your gun using only gripping with the the rear controller (fire control hand). Front controller is in it's mount magnetic or fixed but not gripping the weapon
2)In this position you should be able to comfortable and repeatedly bring the weapon up from facing the floor (only gripping it with rear hand) and when you bring it in line with your eye the crosshair/iron sight is on target every time
3)Once the rear hand orientation is correct now we setup the front hand:
a)While gripping the gun with only the rear hand and aiming down sights, press the grip with the front hand. If the crosshairs moves left or right or up and down significantly then your front hand is not inline with the rear
b)loosen all joint on front controller mount or mag base and loosen the joint between the front and rear controllers if you have one
c)Now with the rear hand gripping the rifle and aiming down sights move the front controller around while gripping and releasing the gun until you find the place where when you grip with the front the crosshair doesn't move or barely moves.
d)tighten down the joints being careful to keep the front controller in this position.

You have now set your controllers to be aligned with each other and that specific gun setup. Note some guns are quite a bit different rfom each other so do this for your most used platform ie:AR's

[deft timber]

Quite soon, we have a few more pieces to iron out but it's getting very close. Appreciate the interest

[late geode]

iSTOCK Finally works perfectly now that they added gunstock calibration! https://istockgaming.com

[abstract pendant]

i'm looking to buy a gunstock does anybody have any recommendations

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

[tawny token]

h

[faint wigeon]

https://youtu.be/ctZTfK58t3c

[quasi jolt]

How do the gunstocks work when you are bending down to pick stuff up?

[deep condor]

Magnets

[spare lagoon]

men use slings

and headbutt it alot

[quasi jolt]

I would love one but I’m not sure if it would be annoying to do anything other than hold guns

Cause I like to move my arms a lot

[pure crown]

whats the best starter gun stock for like 120 i dont have alot to spend on one but i play vr alot and i need one

[royal wagon]

magtube, you can get away with a magstarter and upgrade it later if you want

[remote tiger]

@abstract pendant check ur dm

[remote tiger]

check urs as well

@quasi jolt check ur dm for info!

[strong elbow]

I use a mamut stock, literally mamut and Protube outside of some small differences are very much the same with games and calibration tool.

[void lava]

guys olen vr is a god tier vr stock

[spare lagoon]

get one, if your an avid shooter its very difficult to not. i cannot play any vr shooters without a stock, it just feels horrible and ruins any sort of immersion. get a 2 point sling, learn how to properly use it and you can keep it synched to your body when not in use and you can learn how to quickly go in and out of the sling if needed in an emergency

[quasi jolt]

Yeah I might get one

[spare lagoon]

if you have a 3d printer i can send you my files

[quasi jolt]

Probably two

[spare lagoon]

4 minimum

[quasi jolt]

No I don’t

[spare lagoon]

question to those of you who got the gunstock calibration working. do you have Using Physical Gunstock enabled or disabled?

[royal wagon]

you have to push enable on that one

[spare lagoon]

firearm points to the sky after calibrating, does it more so with it enabled, doing exactly as the video shows. just trying to confirm its not me being rarted
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcTAaJqt0GE&ab_channel=Salty_Pog

[icy cobalt]

There's a question for the masses. Looks like Cody and I use 2 point slings, what does everyone else here use?
1, 2, or the mythical 3?

[warm sparrow]

The calibration system is ass, you can't grab the gun with your front hand so when you get your real gun it isn't calibrated, and after I calibrate I can't even grab anything. Forcing me to restart

[winged parcel]

overpriced sanlaki, lots better for the price such as freedom and magni

[torn flume]

Can we actually grab the grips now?

[winged parcel]

or just go to tutorial and back

[void cape]

Thankyou someone has the same issues as me, they just need to make where you can actually hold the gun with both hands and maybe a aight option to calibrate it with a sight

[royal wagon]

you've always been able to grab the grips, the current gunstock calibration gives you a virtual gun of a specific configuration to act a sa reference point for adjustments, however, no specific gun can be selected and you don't have any attachments on it so you'll need to do it across several steps of experimenting and repeating

[torn flume]

Since last patch I haven’t been able to grab grips on my gun

[royal wagon]

i think you are just doing it wrong

[torn flume]

It’ll just grab the gun like there’s no grip

[royal wagon]

depending on where you have the grip located you might grab the barrel instead, you need to move your hand closer to the grip section

its always been like that

[void cape]

Okay that might make the aiming useable but what about where I can’t grab any weapons after I exit the stock configuration

[royal wagon]

thats a bug, go to market and then back and it should be fine

[void cape]

Okay I’m just making sure it’s not a me problem Thankyou again

[stark hornet]

My high tech stock

[void lava]

im talking about a lessor known olenvr stock tho

[balmy grove]

so is calibration good or mid? no attachments is kinda crazy cause weapon handle different with different grips

[spare lagoon]

i cant seem to get it to work at all. i just want to get my stuff close enough or atleast to where they all share a similar initial aiming point. honestly (assuming forward grips dont mess up your pitch) having different height optics i could see being fine as long as the sight picture with irons is good. can always tweak a bit later for optics

[royal wagon]

currently gunstock calibration will not make all guns of a specific time have the same geometry, so you are really only moving the stock calibration a little bit, but you can do it per gun class. all of the differnces between guns in the same class will still be there

[deft timber]

Yea it's not special. It's litterally a free stock design from thingiverse / printables called the Sanlaki. They just modded the top of it a bit. It does not have the flexibility and customization needed to adapt to different games guns. It's fine but far far far from god tier as you put it

[void lava]

lmao im not even talking about that one

[deft timber]

link the one you are talking about then

[winged parcel]

lopro is literally a spine reskin lol

[icy cobalt]

I'm surprised, last time I checked in on what folk were using 1 point was by far the most common. 2 point gaining ground.

[winged parcel]

2 points of contact??? 2 points are both ur hands lol

[icy cobalt]

Slings. 1, 2, and 3 points are your options.

[spare lagoon]

you mean, not enough, good, and to many points are the options

[royal wagon]

1 point sling ftw

[icy cobalt]

Mostly. Although I played around with a 3 point while sciencing slings in VR. It does keep it the most out of the way when you want to use 99% pistol, and there's the 80's SAS feel pressing out with a shotgun or mp5

[icy cobalt]

Dragging to the front because I'm actually really curious what the current distribution is

[knotty pendant]

What cheap gun stock would be best for silo

[remote tiger]

@knotty pendant check ur dm ima send u some info regarding the gunstocks

[knotty pendant]

Ok

[royal wagon]

if you get a good 1 point sling setup you can have the stock rest at your hip so all you have to do to attach your controller to it is bring your hand down to your hip, snap in, pull up and go

[deft timber]

So are you going to link the one you're talking about? Because all I see is recycled designs on their site

[void lava]

lmao that was a hour ago find it yourself im busy

[remote tiger]

lolllll wtf

[deft timber]

@void lava Ahahah after multiple people tell you they're just rehashed stocks you can get for free you pretend you're busy.

[icy cobalt]

2 point rests across your chest, or can be thrown over your shoulder if you're going pistol only for an extended period.

Plus, if your stock is durable and stiff enough (Part of my dislike of mamut and magnets), you can use a 2 point sling to get significant stability advantages.

[remote tiger]

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT

[void lava]

no bro honestly i went to sleep cuz im not stressed over a discord argument

[spare lagoon]

rigitity

[void lava]

you arent worth my time neither is any discord argument

[deft timber]

Did you print a buffer tube? That looks sick

[deft timber]

😂 🤣

[spare lagoon]

si

[icy cobalt]

I love it.

[void lava]

anytime i say im busy im probably sleeing bro

[deft timber]

No ones arguing we wanted to see what cool stock you were talking about then you failed to deliver

[spare lagoon]

along with designing my own QD mounts (red)

[deft timber]

I like it

Are the controller bases mags or slip in to the cups

[void lava]

well even if they are recycled a lot of people cant aford 3d printers

[icy cobalt]

Bro, you have a 2 point on it in the picture? Unless my phone glance was wrong

[spare lagoon]

controllers slip into the cups. i added some tapered ridges to the inside of the cups that allow it to squeeze the controller a bit so no wobble and you can squeeze and pull pretty hard without the worry of it really breaking

[spare lagoon]

yes i run a ferro concepts slingster

and $270 bipod -_-

[deft timber]

You said that wasn't the one when we asked. You said you were talking about a different one. And they are super expensive for a stolen design. Dude your comments don't align at all

[void lava]

barks :3 lmao

[lament flame]

is it me or the gunstock cal in game isnt that good? im prety sure in contractors you can see where your controller is when you grip the gun and adjust it

[remote tiger]

its def not that good

[lament flame]

im not even sure if its even worth using

iv been holding off on grinding this game cuz of all the bugs but it really seems like tarkov after every patch. unfinish product after every update

half done and shipped to the customer

[remote tiger]

i half agree with you. it is an early access so what is presented is fair. they are making the efforts make the game better

[buoyant viper]

Guys

[lament flame]

i understand but really the only way to make the game better is to finsh each update. 50% doesnt cut it really id take 90% after each update

[buoyant viper]

I have an announcement😞😞

[remote tiger]

true

[lament flame]

youll just end up with a big mess at the end of backtracking

idk just my input

[remote tiger]

no def valid

[lament flame]

id rather wait longer for a update to release that is 90% complete with small hotfixs here and there then to get one every few weeks a 50% of the product. having someones hopes up is like a tease that gets played with for to long

[remote tiger]

true that

[icy cobalt]

Man bipods are just way too expensive for what they are.
I've been considering just a pair of shooting sticks for VR, since the minimum character model height means I can't really use a bipod in my room.

I can't fault your taste, though mine uses a Vicker's sling.

[spare lagoon]

agreed, granted it lives on a prs setup. nice, how do you like it?

[icy cobalt]

Comfortable, nicely padded, and I've used it long enough I'm happy with how it adjusts.
Plays nicely with the stock, and its brother lives on my 2 gun rig.

[spare lagoon]

oo fancy

[icy cobalt]

Meanwhile, it makes sense to me that the PRS man has figured the most accurate looking rig I've seen here yet. :p

[spare lagoon]

well......ignore the no hand pose, i set that up shortly after recording where it actually grabs the turret and uses the correct axis for wrist rotation. it was intended for some long range vr fun but my reverb g2's tracking is no where near good enough for it. need light house if valve ever decides to announce deckard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUIV8pxLnj8&ab_channel=SneakyKittyGameDev

[icy cobalt]

That is what got me to go for the Index. I've played with shots to 800 meters in games like H3, and the pattern of error mirrors what I get in real life, so it's good enough for me.

[spare lagoon]

thats where it really shines

[icy cobalt]

I see your stock is set up for vive wands, aren't they similarly tracked?

[spare lagoon]

made another set of holders for the reverb. the vive wands are much better than the reverb overall but its a hassle having to sync them up to work together since my place space changes often

[elfin kayak]

how does bro hold pistols

[spare lagoon]

same way you would IRL, drop the stock and use sling

[icy cobalt]

What Cody said. One hand nested in the other. You can drop by my stream to see if you like.

[winged parcel]

" how does bro hold pistols " 💀

[kindred tartan]

Is this any good?:

Magni Stock + - VR Carbon Fiber Controller Stock Rifle Adapter compatible with Quest/Quest 2 / Quest Pro https://a.co/d/cYPm6S6

[tight torrent]

Yeah this is what I use and I love it.

[kindred tartan]

No issues at all? I want something like the protube but not extremely expensive lol

[tight torrent]

No, no issues. Just need to get used to snapping them on and off and you'll be golden 🙂

[kindred tartan]

Very nice. Thanks!

[tight torrent]

Best of luck! And it's universal for lefty and rightys too

Which I think is pretty neat

[kindred tartan]

That’s awesome

[slow frigate]

How do you change weapons and put attachments on when doing gun calibration?

I’m stuck on the AKM or what not for rifles.

Can you put a sight/scope on the weapons to calibrate it?

[graceful pebble]

also seems like you can't adjust the angle of the gun left or right

[slow frigate]

I couldnt do left or right either. Which is tragic because my main use case for gunsstock calibration was to line up the angled grip.

[graceful pebble]

yeah, i wanted to test if it worked with the angled grip, I'm guessing it doesn't?

My spectre is only lvl 2

[slow frigate]

It’s not working for me

[winged vector]

Is there a VR game that lets you do this?

[graceful pebble]

well.. at-least we got the calibration.. clearly there's room for improvement, but whatever..

[graceful pebble]

doesn't contractors' calibration allow you to move it in every direction? I didn't have a gunstock when I last played it

[winged vector]

I haven't hopped on yet, does it fix the huge difference between sks and like akm and ak74

[winged vector]

Nah just up and down,

I just fix the angle by rotating my controllers during calibration

[graceful pebble]

well, I still think they should find a way to dial in the angled foregrip somehow.. and how can I rotate my controller while it's locked into a gunstock?

[winged vector]

Does the angle foregrip like turn ur gun even w calibration?

Seems like an oversight

[graceful pebble]

that's the impression I got from Echo. I noticed the angle of the m4 was way off when I didn't have a foregrip on there

pointing up much higher without a foregrip. with one it lines up nicely, even though the calibration is with stock AKM

[winged vector]

Dang, that was a problem before calibration, foregrips change to angle of gun.

[proud fable]

Wsp peeps

[graceful pebble]

yeah, I mean... it's better than no calibration, I'll say that. I wish they would have done what breachers did and just had all the guns parallel somehow

[slow frigate]

I am unable to line up my angled grip using the current form of calibration

Can’t strafe or rotate left/right

[winged vector]

Ok I'm getting out of bed lemme check calibration out 😭😭 I'm curious

[graceful pebble]

heads up it breaks grips

after you use calibration, gotta go to tabor market and back to safe-house to grab stuff

[slow frigate]

Yeah need to go to market and back after calibrating

[winged vector]

Oh yea I just tried it I see exactly what you mean, foregrips affect angle 😦

Back to using two different position foregrips on my stock for now..

[graceful pebble]

it's wierd, they affect it in the opposite direction vertically now

[slow frigate]

Lining up actual sights and forgrips are key for me using calibration. Hopefully we get a more robust version later.

[winged vector]

On the upside, in raid if you find a gun with foregrip, you can still just hold it without foregrip, just try to find the mount point w ur controller

[graceful pebble]

don't you lose the benefit of the grip then?

[slow frigate]

You do yes

[winged vector]

Yea 100% glad we got it this early, Im fairly sure it's a challenge for them to implement the foregrips due to being able to grip the gun differently so they just released atleast some calibration for the time being

[winged vector]

That is on the downside 😆

Hey atleast now we can finally use snipers 😆😭

[graceful pebble]

might as well just remove the grip then, if that's the solution.. my calibration with the AKM lines up better with my other guns when they HAVE a grip though

I'm gonna try and dial it in just enough to do an actual raid, I wanna see the new island. wish me luck!

[slow frigate]

🫡

[winged vector]

Gl brother, i saw screenshots, didn't expect a graphics over haul haha

[graceful pebble]

I don't think my gunstock calibration is working at all.. I'm calibrating with the AKM, then I grab an AKM and it's pointing up at the fucking sky

[drifting terrace]

@graceful pebble you aren't the only one

[proud fable]

@proper hull

[proper hull]

oh wow

[marble beacon]

Ty!

[light shore]

is there a guide for the calibration

is the calibration any good?

[left walrus]

I just came here to say the guns look amazing now

[brittle cave]

What's cheaper, 3d printing a stock or buying a good cheap stock?

[spare lagoon]

depends on the design for the 3d print. mine probably cost me $25 in pla filament thats lasted for about 4-5 years so far but its a beefy dense sucker. benefit is i can now just print off any parts that break (they wont, hence the beffy and dense part) if needbe. can also make new controller holders for any new ones i get. you could design one where you honestly wouldnt even use half a spool so under $12 if you really wanted to

[brittle cave]

Do you know any good designs I can use?

[spare lagoon]

would have to google and see. heres the blend file for this one that contains all the parts and a few different types of stock mounts with wand and reverb g2 controller holders. would need to make your own for any other controller. i greatly prefer slip ins over magnets if possible. sketch fab probably has some so i would check there as well
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-fuxUCvdpHzXBovReY6pUE4txJeJpmFc/view?usp=sharing

[native fable]

Anyone having having any issues with the Tamahawk gun stock?

[glass flare]

no how are you haveing problems

[native fable]

I don't have one. I'm looking at getting the Tamahawk or the pro tube, I like both of them.

[lethal sinew]

I'm curious, what is it you think you like about the skol vr Tomahawk?

The marketing must be doing something right...

[safe carbon]

Prolly Mr nix ngl

[lethal sinew]

Ahh, having a streamer to push stocks is huge.

[kindred tartan]

I just ordered this one : #🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

[small wolf]

so i need a vive physical gunstock so if anyone has ideas or links to gunstocks dm me

[native fable]

The size and how easy it is to re attach the front controller. The only thing I don't like is that you can't adjust the length between the controllers or the height if need be. I would suggest they add something in between to adjust the length at least. But compared to the protube the Tamahawk does have to high of a price point. If more features were added like I mentioned previously, then I would consider paying the current price point.

[void lava]

my tummy make weird noises guys

[lethal sinew]

I have the tomahawk, the adjustments you want exist on the protube, so I suggest you go with the protube if you're still on some fence.

[spare lagoon]

i linked the blend file, so free if you have a 3d printer

[faint wigeon]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExaGJmYTQ3NGo1cmRpdG9rM2F3eDl0ZnRrOXB3OXQ1Mjg4YWE5cHQ0NCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/1IOJ3BjEmsszv9OGzC/giphy.gif

[lethal sinew]

@native fable if you're stateside, I'd recommend looking at this.

[native fable]

Does it run well with most of the weapons on tabhor?

[lethal sinew]

Like a dream, no gunstock calibration needed

(I have both cuz I don't have enough hobbies to sink money into)

[native fable]

Does it take long to ship to the U.S?

[faint wigeon]

So each stock is made to order, which means there is a small processing time (which is normal for most all VR gunstocks on the market). But once its in the mail, it comes with free priority shipping which means once its dropped off at USPS, it'll be at your door in 2-3 days.

[winged parcel]

good choice :D

[winged vector]

Yea I noticed it calibrates to a gun WITH a foregrip instead for me, while akm points to sky

[storm shell]

coughValveIndexControllerVersion!cough 😉

[fading shard]

i have valve index

[fading shard]

????https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJ-zO3fRQeE

weird idea

[icy cobalt]

Seconded on slip in. Magnets sound great until you use them.

[icy cobalt]

By an absolute mile the bowk vr invert marksman is the best stock I've found for Index.

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/gtfo-sopranos-gif-18592539

[delicate shale]

this isnt crypto chat bro, it's vr gunstock chat so I'm not sure why you're even here

[old storm]

<@&951226039890231347>

[delicate shale]

sup @faint wigeon , still slapping fools and clearing lobbies with your freedomstock it's so good lol

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/lincoln-broadcity-all-day-gif-6007766

[slow frigate]

Gunstock calibration: has anyone found a way to like strafe or rotate your gun left/right?

[delicate shale]

i did a minor calibration on mine but didn't look into exactly what it could do fully, it seemed like its up or down vertically and a cant setting on top of that

[faint wigeon]

Yeah its up/down & forward/back, but no rotations

Left or right rotation I should say

[iron loom]

I wish there was a way to demo stocks before buying them I feel like I wasted my money on this OlenVR Spine. I had to remove basically all the plastic pieces just to make it playable in this game, even with calibration. On the plus side I'm finally hitting long range shots I couldn't hit before because of the physical constraints of the stock

[slow frigate]

I was able to rotate forward and back yeah. Just not left and right. Okay, I’m not just missing something then.

[delicate shale]

ya the olen spine has that top mounted system so the stock sits super high, stocks like that are the reason why I swapped to a bottom mounted controller

[faint wigeon]

OlenVR is quite bulky, quite unecessarly bulky (in my opinion).

Check out https://www.freedomstockvr.com/ for a low pro stock thats there when you need it and out of the way when you dont.

[iron loom]

I removed pretty much all the trim so it's just the metal pipes and the actual buttstock and that works perfect for me. The only thing holding back now is the janky calibration

[delicate shale]

no joke I've tried basically every major stock to the point where I've spent more on those than the damn headset and the freedomstock is the best by far, magnistock and protube are a close 2nd but they arent as good for tabor

great for contractors and pavlov where youre basically using 1 gun all the time, but for looting, shooting, and healing the freedomstock is the shit

[iron loom]

I've noticed on youtube that pretty much all Spine users have been doing that just to play this game lol

[delicate shale]

any stock is better than none but using a quest 2 controller which has pretty weak tracking rings which i realized after taking my controllers apart I immediately swapped to something bottom mounted, it's hard to say how much stress those rings can take especially if you run into the floor or a wall on accident

[winged parcel]

im pretty sure i've asked you this before but, plans to extend the back stock tall?

[faint wigeon]

"extend the back stock tall"? Im afraid im not understanding?

[iron loom]

Yeah the spine is prone to tracking issues and also the magnets fit pretty loose as well. I had to tape the magnets in place. After removing all the unnecessary plastic my tracking issues dissipated. I think when it comes to making stocks diy is the way to go unless you don't have the skills/tools to do it. I made a bottom stock out of pvc and it worked amazing but it was pretty bulky and not that good for games requiring two hand use

[delicate shale]

you dont want it tall, i was super against giving up my cheek rest on the magnistock until i tried it, you lose almost nothing in exchange for super quick transitions, so you can shoot your gun and pull out your bag to heal like 4x faster than something with a cheekrest

[faint wigeon]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExMGFmZTY0N2JlMGNhOWI3OWUwNjYwZjA4NjZiNDVmYzM2MTNiM2RkYyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZzX2dpZklkJmN0PWc/dZRYBODApYxKMCKyz5/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[delicate shale]

you want a cheekrest on pavlov or contractors because you do nothing but shoot that one gun, on the freedomstock you want it low profile

[faint wigeon]

I opted for no cheek rest so it doesn't interfere with mobility and get stuck on your arm

[winged parcel]

badly explained, my bad

[faint wigeon]

Ok yeah, no adding a cheek rest eliminates the benefits of the stock entirely.

[delicate shale]

that would make it clunky, when you use it you basically feel like it's not there until you put one hand in front of the other, a cheekrest would get in the way

[winged parcel]

true, ur stock is meant for mobility anyway

@delicate shale cheeckrest getting in the way is sort of the point, i personally prefer it bcus i shake alot, and its good for long range shooting

[delicate shale]

i use both the magnistock and the freedomstock and the cheekrest doesn't do much once you take it away, all it does is make sure every time you raise your arms the sight is perfectly aligned which is a pavlov advantage, on tabor you give that up for quick transitions which will make you way more lethal, i shake like a mofo too which is why i was reluctant to give up the cheekrest

[delicate shale]

the cheekrest isnt giving you anymore stability honestly, try lowering your cheekrest so you dont use it and youll see it's just for sight alignment

[remote tiger]

yea i could see how a cheekrest would be annoying. i dont use one

[iron loom]

Cheek rest all day every day baby

[faint wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/be-open-minded-joe-dirt-david-spade-joe-dirt2-beautiful-loser-gif-17470810

[winged parcel]

i mean i've used both with and without and it really helps, my head is resting and steadier due to that , maybe my situation is unique becuase i shake alot more but it helps a ton for me

[iron loom]

I shake a lot too. Cheek rest is the best option for me

[delicate shale]

its not bad but it's definitely not an advantage on tabor, the only time you'd gain an advantage is when you're holding an angle for like 10 minutes, most of your shaking is from your breathing normally and if your arms are in proper supination/pronation then your biceps are doing all the work not your head or shoulders so the cheekrest just makes you slower at basically everything

if you're constantly holding your breath then youre going to shake, try breathing in for 3 hold for 3 then out for 4 seconds and you should shake alot less

[vital gale]

just came in

[delicate shale]

is it any good?

i was worried it would have too many moving parts

[vital gale]

so basically my problem with it is i try to use it and it aims high or it’s not calibrated correctly and i can’t calibrate it at all it doesn’t work so i’m just gonna wait for the calibration to be fixed but other then that very good

[remote tiger]

tinker with the controler tilt settings in tabor

dont use gunstock calibration its not ready yet

[delicate shale]

that front mount, can you get your hand behind it so it's fully on the controller or do you just attach it and rest your hand forward?

[vital gale]

wdym

[delicate shale]

can your hand grip the front controller fully at all times basically

[deep condor]

I was able to get it to sit right with smgs and rifles so far using the calibration feature. It took a lot of tinkering though.

[vital gale]

i’ve tried that lots of times doesn’t work it’s like you need to calibrate it

[deep condor]

Yes

[remote tiger]

interesting

[vital gale]

it’s magnetic

[delicate shale]

it just looks like a dude with big thumbs couldnt get his finger around the controller, but if it's got enough room to fully grip that front mount at all times then dope

[vital gale]

yeah you can but the grips are a lil tight

[faint wigeon]

Yeah for the absolutely total lack of adjustments on the tomahawk, the price tag he's asking is ridiculous (in my opinion). You have to basically rely on an in game calibration in order to adjust anything.

[slow frigate]

I grabbed a Mamut for the same price range

[delicate shale]

ya it looks tight, I have normal sized hands so it should work for me but for someone with bigger hands that front mount seems very tight, it's a really cool design though so I wonder what itll be good at compared to other magnetic stocks

[vital gale]

but i wish you could two hand the calibration so it’s more efficient

[slow frigate]

https://www.mamutvr.com/products/apto-wasp-base-add-controller-option

[delicate shale]

like switch rear with front or what?

[vital gale]

no just be able to grip the gun like how you normally would

[delicate shale]

lol the super protube/magnistock

[merry tartan]

anyone got a recommended gun stock

[vital gale]

not the tomahawk

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

[delicate shale]

freedomstock or magnistock

[merry tartan]

ight thanks

[vital gale]

200 is outrageous plus 30$ shipping to where i live crazy

[faint wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&t=6s

[faint wigeon]

Yeah and he keeps creeping his prices up, along with that really scummy "fake sale" on his store page.

[delicate shale]

freedomstock is the better of the two for tabor and breachers by far, but both are great stocks

[vital gale]

did they fix the game

[delicate shale]

they updated it a few minutes ago but I'm working atm so I havent been able to try the new update

[faint wigeon]

Same

[delicate shale]

i'm like racing to finish so I can give it a go lol

[faint wigeon]

I hoped on earlier but then they dropped a hotfix immediatly after and now im just getting into work for the day so ill have to try again tomorow... the struggle is real lol

[light shore]

My gunstock calibration is way off, I grab my gun and its pointed way in the air, and the hand offset doesnt seem to save

[delicate shale]

fr fr I'm sure you're swamped with orders at this point lol, I noticed your etsy store is back up which is great, I want more people to experience the awesomeness of the freedomstock

[delicate shale]

that's lame, have you tried different guns? guns like the sks can be weird

[light shore]

On my smgs its completly off, m1a and ak seem to work ok tho

[faint wigeon]

Yessir! I want everybody to enjoy the freedom of the freedomstock lol. Storer back open as I just got caught up on orders and im ready to accept more.

[light shore]

its something with the pitch offset, they must have fucked it up this update

[delicate shale]

so anything that's a long gun works which is good so atleast it's playable

[graceful pebble]

I set up my magtube based on this design

[light shore]

I mean i guess? also cant do the left right rotation for some reason

[delicate shale]

I dont think it ever had a left right rotation setting, I didn't try to be honest but it was up down forward back

[slow frigate]

Aww smgs are broke now!?

Never had left and right rotation as far as I know

Tried to use it for the angled grip

[light shore]

thats my point, it wasnt even there to begin with. terrible calibration compared to legit every other game

[light shore]

are you having the issue where its pointed up?

[slow frigate]

Haven’t tried today. Seemed okay yesterday though.

[light shore]

idk why its like this for me, the up-down offset for my hands keep resetting, I think thats what fucks mine up

[delicate shale]

ya the devs are having issues with their persistence so stuff isnt saving to the servers or the headsets, I'm hoping a fix will come soon but this game is basically an alpha so I try to lower my expectations lol

[light shore]

im just not gonna play until the shit works lol, hopefully by july 1st wipe

[delicate shale]

even then it's still going to have some jank, you basically purchased the game to help them test it so they can get it to the point where they can release it on stuff like PSVR2

[storm shell]

I like it, and I considered attempting to construct it, but I don't have access to a 3D printer and I wanted something with a little more versatility. I have a little DIY project that I'll be wrapping up pretty soon. I'll post pics when it's complete.

[delicate shale]

all the new stuff including the bunker on july 1st is probably going to break the game even more than now, it's an alpha so literally nothing is finished

[delicate shale]

please tell me it's a broomstick with some pill bottle controller mounts, I absolutely love the DIY stocks

[storm shell]

Lol, it's definitely homebrew but I spent a lot of time on it and it's probably a step above your typical DIY stock. And yes, of course it's made with PVC pipes, hence my codename for it; Project: Elite Plumber" 🤣

[vital gale]

the update was a complete fail nothing changed still cant calibrate my stock correctly

[delicate shale]

hell yes! I love a good MacGyver stock design. It's like look what I did with some random stuff you'd find lying around and it still slaps your expensive ass stock. After building my first DIY PVC stock I just decided to buy a premade one so I get a kick out of how great some of the DIY versions can be. I threw mine away like a dummy so I kick myself I can't show off how awesome mine was lol.

[spare lagoon]

not part of the update

[vague cobalt]

Hi

[storm shell]

oh thats too bad... I would have loved to see it. Before I got my Index, I had the HTC Vive and I bought a decent premade magnetic stock for the Vive wands which worked fairly well but there were 2 glaring issues: there was no functionality to accommodate a pump action shotgun, and the entire unit was quite large so regardless of whether or not you were virtually holding a rifle in whatever game you were playing, you were always physically holding one. And it came with a nice sling and all, but still... it was just too big. The one I'm building has a focus very much like the FreedomStock VR by Cheesy, in regard to getting it out of your way when it's not in use or you need your hands free for looting, etc. along with general grip placement adjustments and a telescoping pump action on the fly if needed.

[delicate shale]

The freedomstock is my goto, I can't understate how good it is to have it there when I need and gone when I don't, the designer is a friggin genius on that score, I had the same issue with stocks like the protube or magnistock its just so bulky and in the way compared to what the freedomstock does and my DIY version was very much always there and in the way so I can definitely see why you'd want to make something similar to the freedomstock.

[storm shell]

Yeah, definitely. When I saw the FreedomStock video I was like "There it is... this guy nailed it". And then was very disappointed when I learned it was only for the Quest. But that's ok. It ispired me to get creative and so far, I'm very happy with how its turning out. I'm excited to share it with everyone.

[delicate shale]

Ya he's just 1 dude trying to iterate on the design so I'm sure other controller mounts will come soon enough, I got to test his prototype because I've spent an embarrassing amount on every major gunstock and I was blown away at how much better the freedomstock design is compared to the standard long gunstock we've all been using for years. I'm assuming that it will become the standard just like the magnistock and protube before it. I'm definitely excited to see your version though.

[silk bronze]

anyone know a cheap but decent gunstock?

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&t=6s

[delicate shale]

there ya go, freedomstock is the best in that price range for sure and there's not really anything better that's cheaper, magnistock is more expensive and not as good. other than that you can try looking for something cheaper but they won't be magnetic and anything with an actual stock is going to be so close in price it's not really worth it

[silk bronze]

damn its outta "stock" right now 🤣

[delicate shale]

try etsy too bro

[delicate shale]

ya they're in stock on etsy

[lethal sinew]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1468612811/

[delicate shale]

don with the link save

[lethal sinew]

gotchu, this thing is the stuff.

[delicate shale]

fr fr, the more I use it the more impressed I get

[faint wigeon]

That's odd it shouldn't be out of stock? Let me update that real quick!

[silk bronze]

im gonna make my own gunstock with pva tubes

[silk bronze]

does it work with quest 1 controllers?

[delicate shale]

after making mine I realized it's alot of work and it wont be even close to as good but good for you, I love a good DIY stock design but in the end I just bought a real one

[faint wigeon]

No, just quest 2 currently

[silk bronze]

well looks like im making my own

ill update you guys when im done crafting

[delicate shale]

https://www.etsy.com/listing/836730315/magnetic-vr-rifle-gunstock-quest-1-quest the sanlaki was the only decent one I found for quest 1

[silk bronze]

i would bro but im a broke ass 16 year old lmao so i dont got money for anything

[delicate shale]

ya the struggle is real at that age, I'd suggest looking up other peoples designs and seeing what would work for you, I didn't and ended up with a mess quite a few times until I got something usable

[silk bronze]

let alone 130 dollars to spend on something that im gonna barely end up using

im just gonna use cardboard lmaoo

[delicate shale]

more like $50-75 but I gotcha, aspirin pill bottles can work well for controller cups, I used a few while I iterated through a bunch of designs, PVC works as well

[silk bronze]

prob like 145 for shipping aswell

[silk bronze]

yeah it should im gonna try with a shit-tonne of cardboard first and then if that doesnt work ill use some pvc

[delicate shale]

oof the struggle is even realer for you folks down under, ya definitely try and google some different DIY designs before you attempt anything would be my advice and you should be able to come up with something decent, I saw one that used toilet paper rolls and tape as cups with PVC tubing and it was actually legit bro

[silk bronze]

i am one crafty mfer so ill figure something out lmao 🤣

[delicate shale]

tape, toilet paper rolls and tube ftw

https://www.reddit.com/r/OculusQuest/comments/jhpe5u/quest_2_diy_10_gunstock/

[silk bronze]

if i use velcro i can easily strap it on and off

[delicate shale]

i think they just slide out of the roll mounts so you wouldnt need velcro

[silk bronze]

he said in the description that the controllers are wedged in there and he cant like pump a shotgun mid fight or something like that

[delicate shale]

only the best stocks have pump shotgun functionality, if you're aiming for that then it'll be way harder

[silk bronze]

always been a bit of a challenge lover

[delicate shale]

I never use pump shotguns because they suck compared to a semi like a saiga but to each their own lol

[silk bronze]

im not gonna make it purely for a pump lmao i like having the option

i play h3vr and other shooting games that have shotguns aswell

[delicate shale]

there was a similar design that had a center telescoping set of PVC pipes but I can't seem to find it, it was exactly like that but the center was attached with a slimmer piece of PVC that allowed it to rack forward and back

[silk bronze]

yeah i already have a good blueprint stored in my brain about how im gonna make it with cardboard

[delicate shale]

theres one lol

pencils lol

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/gjzk8h/she_may_not_be_pretty_but_shes_mine_vr_gun_stock/

[storm shell]

nice! you're gonna want that PUMP!

[delicate shale]

thats why i love my freedomstock, it works for anything using such a baller design

[lethal sinew]

@silk bronze check out this one from @barren spire :
#🔫・vr-gunstock-chat message

it's kinda like the freedom stock but DIY (parts in the middle)

[supple parcel]

say I wanted to use a gunstock for the index controllers, is it fluid to put in and take out the controllers from the gunstock to pick things up or is it hard to learn or something.

[slow frigate]

The good ones use magnets so your controller magnets on and off.

[formal kayak]

Just FYI to anyone who uses the Tomahawk, SKOLVR has confirmed he is already working on Q3 upgrade kit.

[timid acorn]

What will it involve? I just got my tomahawk this week and so far I’m a big fan

[frosty merlin]

I like the pencil one but mine is more budget friendly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099374604235055104/1118388261593825410/image.png

[delicate shale]

Yes! The essentia bottle stock, ive made several lol. I love that water

[frosty merlin]

If your more handy you can use pipes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1099374604235055104/1118387686672179270/image.png

[next spire]

Did they add gun stock calibration

[formal kayak]

He didn't provide specifics just that he had a solution and would be making one.

[vapid heart]

Yes but it’s broken lol

After seeing all of y’all’s I feel rich lol, the one on the right is Mamut Apto 3, left is Glistco magni stock +

[strong elbow]

Ya having only one gun to calibrate to for a reference is borked, the ak does not line up with the sks even remotely. when I exit calibration it doesnt let me grab stuff anymore unless I exit to market or whatever.

[strong cosmos]

Bad idea (i like to build stuff not professional but like serious) use pvc pipes or wood&superglue they are cheap 15$ or 20

[pallid mural]

So how's the calibration? Good or flimsy/irritating?

[deft timber]

@vapid heart Which do you prefer? Give us the low down on the pros cons of each

[visual sorrel]

Having trouble calibrating any tips?

[silk bronze]

not bad idea

i have already made a small mockup and its turning out great so far

[quasi creek]

Ngl 3d printing a gun stock is not even that bad

[remote tiger]

its ofc not as strong as a metal pipe or carbon fiber but if you take care of it it works great

[vapid heart]

Honestly the Mamut is better in every way except cost and build time, Mamut pros: Adjustability literally everywhere, all metal construction with carbon tubes, adjustable buttstock and cheek rest, comes with grips for your controllers similar to valve index. Cons: build time is about 1 hour although no tools are required I would recommend a pair of pliers and a Phillips screwdriver to tighten. The buttstock and cheek rest have a wobble that can’t be fixed. Also the metal can get quite cold. The glistco one has its pros of being cheaper and easier to build other than that compared to the mamut nothing is better. The cups can easily drop controllers the stock broke for me and they had to send a new one, the 3D printed parts are super flimsy and break easily. All and all if you want great quality that will last get the mamut, if you want cheap get the Glistco Magni stock +.

[paper sierra]

What y’all think

[native fable]

@vapid heart What are you thoughts on the Tamahawk

[vapid heart]

I think its a really awesome design and id love to make one

[icy cobalt]

@winged parcel Bowk VR marksman, which I feel like I've been shilling for here.

[winged parcel]

i already own a stock but it seems overpriced for what it's offering

[icy cobalt]

Same price as all the others, but carbon fiber, a solid design that's usable in every game I take it to, an adjustable cheek weld, and sturdy enough to actually get some advantage out of a 2 point sling and pulling into your shoulder.
Plus the DIY kits and delrin rods for cheap.

I started with a mamut, and realizing all the problems with magnets got me here

[remote tiger]

just out of curiosity what problems with magnets do u have

a few have suggested magnets in my design but i really dont want to i feel like is over complicated

[winged parcel]

MagniStock has all the marksman has plus a sling and angle adjustment options

also is carbon fiber

[icy cobalt]

They're great for quickly attaching ad detaching, assuming you're ok with the jerkiness, but are generally awful at preventing sliding when you have any kind of pressure on the stock

[remote tiger]

yea that makes sense

[icy cobalt]

Magni stock's cheek rest isn't readily adjustable, and where you see adjustment angles I see weak, flexible points and controllers that will slide on you.
Bowk does come with a sling, and a place for a 2 point.

#1 for accuracy, past just having a stock, is repeatable movements and enough stiffness to actually use the stock as a stock, instead of just a stick vaguely connecting the controllers.

Sure you can deal with it, I did, but the second you don't have to deal with the flex in the system it's a night and day difference

[royal wagon]

thats a design issue, magtubes dont move under anything but specific movements to disengage

ive got several thousand hours on a magtube and ive never accidentally disengaged or had the rigidity and accuracy of using it move once

[winged parcel]

idk, i've been using a 3d printed stock heaps cheaper in quality than the magni, with the same adjustment system as them and it isn't that much of an issue. and I'm rough rough w it

We'd have to ask magnistock users but I'd assume it would take a far bit of tension to adjust the angles when its fully tightened

also, from the looks of it the magnistock seems to have an adjustable cheekweld

and considering the stock doesn't change with the weapon as with real life, it's pretty imperative to have adjustment options considering we may need to in order to be able to properly feel comfortable with smaller guns or aim with them

[shy fossil]

Guess what finally came im stoked. Going from a OlenVR to this stoked to try it!

[vapid heart]

I have a magni stock aswell as a Mamut apto 3 what are you needing?

[deep condor]

The calibration will be tricky. MP5's for example are almost impossible to reload with it.

[shy fossil]

Yeah I haven’t played GoT in a hot min, was wondering if it’s even worth trying to use calibration or if I’m better off just playing it without calibrating like it was before, thoughts?

[deep condor]

Calibration helped me, but the stock itself has it's limitations.

[shy fossil]

Awesome thanks for the info! I will check it out!

[royal wagon]

it takes some work to get benefits from the calibration but its possible. ive used it to get the gun more in line with my real hand so the eye relief is better, since it doesnt fix any specific gun I still adjust my stock as necessary for guns of different geometries

[shy fossil]

Thanks for the info!

[kind lichen]

I’m working on one right now and it’s turning out niceeeee

[icy cobalt]

@royal wagon You've got unsupported flexible joints, only the pressure of wingnuts holding things in place, large flexible joints in between controllers and rod, and levers on the base of controllers.

Not seeing how you're getting stiffness.

As for smaller guns, I've never had a problem with the Bowk. Grip and latch for the exceptionally small ones, but basically every rifle since the introduction of pistol grips has had handling dimensions (length of pull, grip distances), within a few inches of each other.

[keen citrus]

Hello does anyone have a suggestion for a gunstock I want one for games like tabor breachers and contractors

[royal wagon]

i dont have any wingnuts, 3 of the joints are notched and indexed and don't move, one of them moves as i want for fine tuning angle on rifles that differ

[icy cobalt]

You're about to get 20 different answers, all better than nothing, all with huge amounts of personal preference and bias.

Budget and system, and do you want to attach at the top of the bottom?

[royal wagon]

theres no flex

[icy cobalt]

Are we looking at the same magnistock?

[royal wagon]

i didnt say anything about a magnistock

[keen citrus]

Price 100 dollars at most and I would like to have it at bottom but If the frame does not get in the way thenI would use one at the bottom

[icy cobalt]

pardon, that was the other guy. Magtube I don't have the first hand experience to comment much on.

[icy cobalt]

System? And your sentence wasn't clear to me, are you saying that you'd prefer your controllers to do this?

or this?

[keen citrus]

Top and what do you mean by system

[icy cobalt]

index, quest, pico, etc

[keen citrus]

I quest 2

[icy cobalt]

Cheapest and easy option: DIY at home. PVC, wood, and cardboard are popular.

Cheaper and less easy: Get one of the DIY packages or access to a 3D printer. 18mm or 3/4" dowels. Most manufacturers offer a DIY package, like so https://www.bowkvr.com/shop/p/forged-signature, or use your 3D printer at home or your local maker space.

Expensive but easy: Buy a complete model from one of the following: Protube, Bowk, freedomstock.

Next step, get a 2 point sling and learn to use it.

Anyone else care to chime in?

[keen citrus]

Thank you

[royal wagon]

i prefer a single point sling, if you get it positioned right you can remove and reattach with one hand very quickly

[icy cobalt]

Which you an do with a 2 point, while also having more options as to how to use the sling

[royal wagon]

no, a 2 point would change how it hangs

[icy cobalt]

Across your chest is more out of the way, but still offers contact points to index on, swim out of it if you really want 99% of the single point experience, clip both to the same point for the total 1 point experience.

While still being able to throw it over your shoulder and use it as a far more effective shooting aid

[royal wagon]

with having to interact with things on your chest and move your hands around a lot, i find that a 2 point is more in the way

[icy cobalt]

Very much not my experience. While I find 1 points swing far too much while making big moves.

[left plover]

Anyone else not able to use sks with gunstock after calibration?

[remote tiger]

My recommendation is just do not use gunstock calibration. its too ealry and doesnt work effectively for now

[royal wagon]

you'll have to iterate on the gunstock calibration until you get it how you like it, for the SKS it will take a considerable amount of work

[icy cobalt]

While we're on gunstock calibration, what is up with the sako? I shoot, let go with the back, and it rotates the bolt far out to the right
And why did all my mag grabs rotate 90 degrees left after I turned it on?

[old storm]

still yet to buy a stock

perhaps i never will

[bitter crypt]

do you guys like my foot stock

[icy cobalt]

Cool? Love to see what you've built for yourself. Unless you're round 2 of someone here to brag about how good they are freehand.

[old storm]

LOL is that really a problem

guuhhh tube is for wek bo

i meant i never will as in ive always wanted one but never brought myself to buy one

[icy cobalt]

Man tried to say that you didn't even need stocks in real life. Cited that he was a crack real life shot and "just trust me bro." as primary sources.

[old storm]

‘bro you cant peek over! youre gonna get hit! here just reach up and shoot pot shots at them like this’

the gangs have so much collective experience they must know what they are doing

[distant arch]

anyone here that might be able to help me calibrate my gun stock correctly? seem to be having some trouble with it

[royal wagon]

start calibration, make some adjustments, save it, grab the gun you are trying to calibrate, note how it mgiht need to change, repeat

it will take a number of adjustments, i knew what i was doing and it still took me 7 adjustments

[distant arch]

i did that but it never seems to aim right, in the calibration it looks great. after i leave the menu its awful. Even when i try to adjust ita little leave the menu and pick up the gun its never right. After adjusting the calibration i cant even pick up the gun i have to go to tabor market and then back to safehouse to be able to pick anything up

im curious if my gun stock has anything to do with it being a problem, I know most other gun stocks the controllers sit on the gun stock completely straight, my gun stock my left hand sits slightly angled

and its always changing my hand rotation offset i had to put it at like +55 to have my hands going straight. but after a pick up a gun and put it down my hands are not straight anymore

[royal wagon]

yes, the calibration does not adjust for left/right or rotational angle differences

your controllers need to be mounted and pointing in a straight line

[distant arch]

well the weird thing is Mr.Nix uses this gun stock and he doesnt have any issues in his videos

So i know it CAN work im just not getting it to work

[formal kayak]

Sadly the gun calibration is trash right now, like I have stopped using it as default is/was better for me.

So dont stress too much about it.

[distant arch]

the only way that i can get my guns to point straight is if i never grip onto the gun with my left hand

and i could just do that in raid no problem but if your not gripping with your left hand doesnt it make recoil way worse?

[formal kayak]

Its literally worse than just playing without it as its tsnads. They will fix it, they are good like that, but right now....nahhh

[royal wagon]

you arent gripping anything when you use the gunstock calibration, its a visual reference to make adjustments to the guns position

put your hands in, then adjust the gun until you can ADS, save it and try it out. if the front points too high, go back in and lower it, etc

[distant arch]

is it normal that if i reset all calibrations and start a brand new one that the gun is pointed straight at the ground even if i have my hand straight?

[formal kayak]

I know how it works, I'm just saying it can be better, and will be at some stage.

[royal wagon]

after you reset calibration you might want to change scenes

its a bit buggy at the moment, but it works, just roughly

i used it to bring the position backwards so it matches real life more, now i have much better eye relief

[formal kayak]

agreed, but it so not intuitive for new ppl, but they will fix that I'm sure.

[distant arch]

the only way i can get mine to even remotely work is when im outside the menu holding n actual gun i cannot grip with my left hand, and that can be my solution but i guess my question there is, if im not gripping the gun with my left hand in game isnt recoil way more aggressive?

[royal wagon]

yes

[distant arch]

do you think they will ever add left and right calibration?

[formal kayak]

I think they will, but who knows, in the end, to have a hardcore looter/shooter they need to get ti right.

[distant arch]

this is how my controllers sit when on the stock

[royal wagon]

if a gunstock doesnt point straight i would get a refund, thats a defect

[distant arch]

its how this one is designed, i can adjust it i suppose

[royal wagon]

then adjust it until its straight

[distant arch]

but i installed it exactly how this guy said to in his install video

oh actually no i cant, i cant physically hold the controller if it is straight

[royal wagon]

ask that person why its not straight if you followed his instructions

[distant arch]

i could ask him, just how it was designed. its definitely not a well known gun stock but the quality is real nice

and i have been waiting a month for this thing to come in the mail lol

[formal kayak]

This discussion is not fair, even tough everyone is trying to be helpful. @royal wagon uses probably the best stock you can buy, and I use the sidewinder and/or tomahawk, which are all relatively high end.

[distant arch]

dang and actually looking back on Mr.Nix videos cause he uses this gun stock his character is actually gripping the gun and its aiming perfectly, so obviously im doing something wrong here

the tomahawk is the one i use

[formal kayak]

Really?

[formal kayak]

Oh wow

[distant arch]

yeah i see Mr.Nix using this stock its actually how i found out about this stock in the first place and he is using it flawlessly on the game so i gotta figure out what i am doing wrong

only thing i know about it right now is his videos are all before the gun stock calibration was added so turning that off there should still be a way for me to get it to aim straight

[formal kayak]

I literally use mine with no calibration and have no issues.

[distant arch]

what?

[formal kayak]

I use no calibration

[lethal sinew]

Don't use the calibrator. Just physical stock enabled?

[formal kayak]

yup

[distant arch]

its always aiming way off when i do the like the gun is pointing way to my right

[royal wagon]

are your controllers in a straight line when you hold it?

[distant arch]

which i figured was because the front controller is tilted

no they arent but discuit is saying he has the same one and doesnt have an issue with the tilt in the front controller

[formal kayak]

I really dont...but..big but.. i havent played since last update...

[distant arch]

i just got mine today so

@formal kayak i sent you a PM

[formal kayak]

Have you used it without calibration?

[native fable]

You can change the pitch/rotation of the controllers in game

[umbral nymph]

Yo

[mossy zephyr]

I need the gunstock calibration to include horizontal offset rotation

[storm shell]

@delicate shale @faint wigeon Ladies and gentlemen, I present to thee.... Project: Elite Plumber!

[faint wigeon]

Awesome job! It Looks great and love the name lol

[remote tiger]

i need some advice
yes or no with this design

[delicate shale]

That's amazing for a DIY stock I'm so impressed bro wow

[remote tiger]

particularly

this is a better pic

it has a chamfer

[delicate shale]

The stock looks great but always remember if you're not adding a full cheekrest then the whole stock can be much smaller and easier to print, bigger should always mean cheekrest while smaller and slimmer should equal no cheekrest because you gain no extra stability from it being bigger without that extra feature

[remote tiger]

Tru tru

I did have it much smaller but people were like “ shouldn’t it be biggerrrrr” I Im like ig so maybe I’ll make it smaller

[delicate shale]

I love the design but as it gets bigger then you can't pull it up towards the headset vertically as easily with something smaller, magnistock and protube have that exact issue, you can only get the thing so high on your shoulder without it interfering with the headset itself, a smaller stock without a cheekrest allows you to raise it up or down at will

[remote tiger]

Yea that’s a good point I didn’t know that issue existed.

[delicate shale]

Even with the magnistock at its lowest setting on the cheekrest it still will interfere with the headset on games like tabor, that can be solved with the calibration tool by dropping the gun down vertically but unless you're adding a cheekrest then you actually gain no extra stability from it being 7 inches minimum vs something much smaller, the freedomstocks buttstock is like 3 inches long and gives equal stability to the longer 7 inch magnistock

[remote tiger]

Damn that’s quite high I don’t think I have ever hit my headset with it

[delicate shale]

Because there's no cheekrest poking out, but if you cut it in half you'd sacrifice no stability

[remote tiger]

True

Def a good thought

[delicate shale]

It looks good but it honestly doesn't add anything extra, I was very reluctant to give up the larger stock with a cheekrest but once I tried something a bit smaller I realized it doesn't help, that length is for real life firearms that have actual recoil so the force is spread out across the whole length of the buttstock, its not for stability

[remote tiger]

Your def right

[delicate shale]

I always thought the bigger stocks on my real life rifles were to help with stability but i see now it's just a giant pad to spread out the force of the bang, something smaller in vr works just as good as long as you're not trying to add a cheekrest that would require that particular geometry

[remote tiger]

Yea nah not doing a cheekrest

[delicate shale]

Try a little 2 inch stock vs the bigger ones and see if you gain anything, after my testing I actually prefer something smaller in vr specifically

Actually more like 3 inches, I just measured the slimmest part of my shoulder and I'm average sized

[remote tiger]

Sweet ty

[kindred ivy]

Yo i have the same gun stock and im having the same issue did you find a fix I even calibrated and it either wouldnt save or just felt off

[wide iris]

any good ones for index

[mental needle]

yo best budget gunstock for quest?

[faint wigeon]

https://www.freedomstockvr.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctZTfK58t3c&

[stark hornet]

Anyone have experience with the modus gunstock on tabor? Anything I should be aware of before pulling the trigger

[sharp pecan]

Anyone have a gunstock that is cheep but really good

[lethal sinew]

define cheap

[sharp pecan]

Like 20-35

[lethal sinew]

I have it, it works great for Tabor. Nice and light. Knuckle straps are good as well.
For that same cost tho... you should check out the freedomstock vr. It's better imo

[remote tiger]

@sharp pecan im selling mine for 32.99

ill send you some info to ur dm

[sharp pecan]

I remember u

[remote tiger]

ahh did u change ur name or somthin?
also did u still watn that info?

ohhh yea i remember

[sharp pecan]

Ya

[remote tiger]

u internaitonal so prices are a litte higher

[sharp pecan]

Ya

[thick hatch]

What headset? I offer QuickAims for all Quests, Index, and PSVR2.

Simple but effective.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/1446829480/mrtass-pro-quickaim-gun-stock-knuckle

[kindred ivy]

Sooo..... I use the tomohawk gunstock and im finnaly working out the configurations for all the gun calibrations but I've ran into an offsset bug which I have demonstrated in this video. (ps. I didnt know my mic was working so I couldve just talked the whole time sorry for the breathing lul)

File is too big and im broke for nitro so here is an imgur link: https://imgur.com/QaqBhrT

[dusty knot]

oh my god, set physical gunstock otion off, and just play

[old storm]

was this the guy?

[stark hornet]

Freedom stoxk doesn't have a cheek weld from what I was seeing. I wanted something to stabilize and bring sights into picture quicker and a cheek weld helps a lot with picture from my understanding

[rich hare]

Sick

[trail cliff]

These days "neutral head position" is the current tactical fad

[lethal sinew]

so... i've tried both. Indeed the cheekweld is needed for long range sniping, but most engagements for tabor is within 50meters.

For tabor specifically... It's better with the freedomstock vr in my opinion. As someone who owns both stocks

[trail cliff]

The same holds true in real life. Getting your cheek on the stock and behind the sights is slower than pointing and shooting instinctively. For close range at least.

[stark hornet]

How sturdy us the freedomstock vs like the modus? That was another factor. I've seen its telescopic. Does it just stay in notched positions until pressure is applied or how does it work extending and stuff

[trail cliff]

I think the freedom stock will hold up better than alternatives since the stock will break at the weakest point. In the freedom stocks case the magnets are the weakest thing holding both pieces together. Should you put any strain on the stock it will just separate the magnets

[lethal sinew]

No notched positions. It's super easy to lock out. You can roll down the O-ring that's supplied (like you would roll down a condom) and it'll be out a certain amount if you wanted it to be out a bit (less pulling the stock out).

The build is very sturdy now. He had some kinks worked out in the early builds but i think it's in a great place now.

Modus R is also very solid, lightweight and built very sturdy. A great option to be clear.

[stark hornet]

Is it plastic or like aluminum? The idea of tensioning two telescoping sets of tubes makes me nervous

[remote tiger]

yea if 3d pritned you want those rods solid you DEF dont want telescoping

[lethal sinew]

i've got the v1 and v2 of the freedomstock. Telescoping is done very nicely with the freedomstock. It's sanded down and works very smoothly.

There's an internal spring that makes it work great.

[remote tiger]

yes i will say with the exception of the freedom stock

[lethal sinew]

dunno how @faint wigeon gets it so smooth.

[remote tiger]

post processing im sure

[lethal sinew]

yeah, definitely worth the cost. It's plastic 3d printed but magical

[stark hornet]

Well it's pretty much just for tabor. I'm just sick of doing the red dot wave trying to find my sight picture when I wanna shoot. The freedomstoxk looks like it would be better for looting but the main area I need help in is long range stability

[remote tiger]

thats fair

i wouldnt completly rule him out tho it def looks stable

[lethal sinew]

Yeah in that case go with the modus. it's cheekweld is solid

[stark hornet]

It does yeah. And reloading would probably be easier. I'll probably end up going with the freedom and just get better. Lemme test my homemade stock out to make my decision I guess.

[lethal sinew]

here's a quick video. i need to redo my testing but it has both

[faint wigeon]

Hey Hey, sorry just entering the chat here. Thanks @lethal sinew for answering those questions!

So Freedomstock is 3D printed with PETG, pretty much all other stocks are printed with PLA which is a weaker material (PLA does the job, but I wanted something even stronger for my stock).

As per the functionality, every stock is sanded and polished down to 1400grit for the smoothest telescoping action possible.

The stock can be locked into multiple configurations as well, as DonZzzilla mentioned, using the integrated o-rings. And it comes with integrated knuckle style grips.

You can see the stock more indepth and hands on in this video:

https://youtu.be/6VbYvqA3yH0

[old storm]

is the protube a good stock? that’s all i really know in terms of stocks

[remote tiger]

wtfffff

[quasi sinew]

Wtff

[remote tiger]

<@&951226039890231347>

^^

[old storm]

<@&951226039890231347>

[rigid bison]

Fucking piece of shit

[old storm]

ban dude

[old storm]

anyways 😐

[royal wagon]

best in the biz

[old storm]

makes sense since they have those haptic stocks

[faint wigeon]

Woah what did I miss??

[stark hornet]

Yeah I think we missed sometbing there lol

[sour fossil]

Anyone know if the Forcetube stock will work along with bhaptics in the game? Guessing there may be issues with more than one Bluetooth device at once

[remote tiger]

check dm

[royal wagon]

the forcetube SDK was added to the game, so, maybe?

[sour fossil]

Thanks! Maybe a bit pricey to risk until someone else tries it first tbh

[royal wagon]

i assume you mean quest standalone

[sour fossil]

Forcetube works really well with it and I've seen YouTubers using the bhaptics vest and it works well