#❓・questions
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It broke, then it was kinda fixed, then broke even harder
damn
i can’t even load tabor up when other people can anyone know why?
The servers are doing stupid stuff you're not supposed to be ingame
ohhhhhh okok thanks
I was js in game and everything was fine. Got all my stuff with me to. At least in PvE
What penetrates the shields?
Thank you, this is perfect!
Can fénix or what ever there called see you in night time if it’s pitch black
yup
Okay so that’s so annoying
How do we store the new shields?
Shelves ig
You can store them on armor stands
Thats not intended and will get fixed
Yeah but it works
So it's temporary but works?
Yup
Yes
Alright thanks
You're welcome
Apparently they can be stored in armour lockers?
They can for some reason be stored in places for vests
If I’m switching to pcvr will i still have my dlcs?
I’m on quest 3S and I had a question my tabor says 4.2 gigs for the new update it’s going well past that at around 5.2 now am I being lied to?
Here's a few bugs and glitches I have noticed but are hard/ take a while to replicate.
Bags stuck on bodies, specifically Ragnar's, jitter and lag+some almost soft locking spots due to these issues, and loot not spawning in bunker.
Any others people have had?
You have to link your accounts
alr so I do everything that's said to do in the announcements and patches and I still can't get a raid? Is it bcz Australian servers are too low population or what?
Quick question for the devs, will item collision in backpack ever come back?
Maybe when the bugs with it get solved
YIPPI
Are servers working
Servers are pretty busted atm
So yes?
Nah it’s gonna work like this from now on afaik
item collisions caused a lot of the bag spinning issues, they said in one video
is the samurai C1300 skin gonna get an overlay, or is the actual C1300 gonna lose the overlay
its not like tabor at all to be p2w, expecting one of the two to happen :p
Anyone else had an issue where the time limit on the watch is off on the quest 3 lost all my best gear as I was making my way to exfil with 15 minutes left and the raid ended I'm not too bothered coz it was pve but just wondered if anyone else had this issue
C1300 skin not having an overlay is most likely a bug tbh
I'm not gonna say it isnt p2w, but I would say it's a stretch. The c1300 overlay is already nearly non existent, having a skin remove it really doesn't do much
But it is weird that the samurai helmet doesn't have an overlay, sounds unintentional to me
its harder to see people in trees with the new helmet but other then that there isnt really a difference
also does anyone know what happened with pve earlier?
me and my friend went into a pve raid earlier to test the new shields and when i loaded in i didnt have anything and my buddy had his kit from his pvp bunker and somehow lost it when he died
What's there plan exactly? There community posts don't really make sense to me due to the fact I'm mildly dyslexic
What
hi I wanted to play with my friend in PvE but when we came out of the bunker we didn't have our equipment yesterday, I don't know if it's linked to the server bug or not I hope it has been corrected, someone has an answer thanks in advance.
why does it say train on deploy on PVE
Can I make my altyn helmet go back to the normal one instead of the uwu one? Or am I stuck with the uwu altyn
I suck at the game bad at pve let alone pvp do i keep going pve and getting insta killed and try too learn or pvp meet people maybe get better and get that real experience
Servers still buggin
Stuck with dlc skin
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Dang, Alr
Ill have too try it if it works as good as it looks im loving the game only survived one raid outta like 30 im broke but catch me not giving up with a ruegur
Do you know how long the servers were dead for and so it was definitely linked to a server problem?
Servers never died
did vaults get buffed secretly? ive been having terrible vaults before the patch and now im getting insane vaults
No change
does this mean I can play pve with my friend and take equipment out of my bunker with him? because yesterday we couldn't leave the bunker with equipment or the servers are still bugged and you know for how long? I'm talking about PvE but both the tactical team DLC
Probably not
It’s done when it’s done
Probably worse if anything because shields have a chance to spawn
it glitched in PVP training mode. do not hit that button. either quit the game and relaunch or spam click that PVE Mode button under the map until that Train Button switches to Deploy
Why's my pcvr not working it's stuck at loading
people have been reporting that. either sit there and wait it out (usually takes 10 mins) or just try again later
Alr
Look in #📢・patches
Where get riot shield?
in the gear crates that have backpacks and armor
Thanks
Did the patch fix the backpack crashes
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Can you load into a raid yet or have they shut down servers?
will the items itself get collisions again. or will it stay like it is
Any tips for pcvr tabor to load
What are your specs?
hey ive brought out 2 sheilds in my hand and i made 25k so
Is it fixed?
cash is easy as hell to make. I'd rather have better chances at tier 2 and 3 backpacks, tier 4 vests than i would a damn shield im never going to use
They’re pretty useful
2080 ryzen 7
i mean i have pretty good loot luck but i can be T6 Full atlyn and insta die from someone behind me i have bad luck getting shot lol
idk the numbers of the cpu
Do you have like 20 chrome tabs open while trying to boot the game?
yes
i have 32gb of ram so it shouldnt be a problem i thought
Brotha chrome eats your ram like a fucking snack
operai use well ill try
Did they change all the regions? I m seing like 20diff regions
Don't use opera it eats your gpu either use firefox with like a couple tabs open or don't use a browser while playing got
They swapped server provider cause they want to add scav runs later down the line and their old server provider prevented that
How long should I wait at that loading screen
In other words?
New server provider so more locations
Lost my gear too I only read train after I clicked ...b found amazing shot an then everything was gone
Btw is this your first time using pcvr
nah
it's been since yesterday we're both in PvE we launch fully equipped in the bunker and when we arrive on the map we don't have our equipment we're completely naked and yet we both have the tactical team DLC and we're both in PvE
same. idk why the devs arent even addressing the workaround for that because a lot of people definitely lost good loot because of it
it used to always work before the update
i uninstalled it and reinstalled it but still not working
!savefiles try this ig
Quest Standalone
Go to Quest settings > Storage > Search "Ghosts of Tabor" > Delete "App Data" (not the game itself, two different buttons)
PCVR
Windows Key + R > Copy this into "Open":
%localappdata%\GhostsOfTabor\
Delete the "Saved" folder
Please note
This will NOT get rid your loot.
okay ragesaq you have your command when are we playing tabor together
okay
Not bad!
Is the game even playable right now? I saw all the updates, but still don’t understand 🤣
Yeah but its currently having problems because of the new server provider fucking up not cws fault
I had 0 issues when I played
Meaning long wait times for raids? I’d still be ok if. I went I went in kitted or are naked runs the meta rn?
Misunderstood your message
Some people can’t even get past the title screen on PCVR
Not long queue times just people having trouble joining got
Gotcha! I’ll give it a shot and run some nakeds to test the waters before I run kits 🤣 thank you!
Hey so i just wanted to check up on the state of the rollback? Yesterday i lost my best gear after succesfully exfilling a raid with it. Has that bug been fixed yet? Otherwise its not rly worth playing imo
Did you lose gear in PvE or PvP?
They're not rolling back, instead trying to fix the servers.
you're leaving out the bag having more issues than before and the game randomly putting you into pvp after every pve raid
honestly with how little these devs care, i doubt they'll give gear back.
Bags are a lot better
guys in pve i lost an ak47u in a raid with hologram and supresor and then i went to get the six hour thingy i n the trade room and i got everything i back is it a glitch or not?
Devs care more than your parents do about you
you think so? try putting armor or a bag in your bag then try grabbing something else out. wont let you unless its a magazine.
Was playing PVE
Only devs in the world who actively listen to player feedback and implement changes based around it.
At this point i dont give a damn if they give my kit back. I just wanna be able to go on raids without fearing i will lose my gear again upon exfill
That was quite literally explained how to counter in a video
yet they arent rolling back the update knowing this update broke the damn game and caused high tier loot from multiple people to be lost
they literally gave explanation as to why
Please read #📢・patches where it literally explains everything
yeah, don't put armor or bags in your bag. thats not a fix
Thats not what the video said at all
i read patches. you wanna know why arent rolling back? because too many people will refund the dlc when they lose it
Mf they explained how to put it in a way so that doesn't happen
Hence making pve free for solo and a bunch of other random shit they heard yall crying about. And the update itself didn't break the game the servers broke the game, which they don't host the servers learn to use your brain alittle more
Lets ignore the fact that you cant refund dlcs
Sent DM
you can dispute with payment methods dude and they lose the money lol
man just making shit up now
You're crying about something that is out of there control yet they work tirelessly to fix while you sit in your basement crying
are servers still down?
This has a little term named coping
Not a single store allows to refund dlcs duh
bro take off your tinfoil hat and go somewhere else to rant
Go read refund policy of meta and steam
dispute it with your payment method smart one
Id suggest finding a new hobby one where people will validate your shitty feelings
he means disputing it through is payment processor
which will just have em get a ban on steam/meta
Peak solution
not at all going to cause a ban when the developer removed the dlc. you no longer have access to the dlc so they'll refund the dlc
anyways
@rancid phoenix go somewhere else to rant, this channel is for people with questions
are servers still down and being worked on?
They’re up but there’s still issues
okay
Check out patches. Looks like they had a wild ride last night
i saw
out of their control? dude they pushed an update with broken game mechanics. server issues arent their fault but the game switching servers on raid completion, is in the code for what mode to return you to. bag issues where they gave instructions on how to counter the issue when the issue shouldnt even be in the game if they tested
im not gonna ask you to go somewhere else to rant again
and where would you like me to go when people responded to me here?
if you guys wanna continue go to dm
dont care, this channel aint for discussions/ranting
you got it
You're braindead, if you'd care to read and use your prepubescent mind alittle more you would realise that the game updates had nothing to do with the servers breaking the server migration did now suck it up and wait like everyone else who isn't crying like a child and move on its an early access game where they are trying to improve your playability by migrating to a bigger host, also if you read that part they said they have a fix for that that im the patch. Sorry was already halfway through typing mods I'm done 😘
Was the April fools last year the cat noises before they added the cat? Or did they not have one last year
Sm1 know if the servers are still wired??
Yea they are waiting on the server host to push there fix but they tried to make it atleast playable until then
where do you see that workaround for the bag issue im having with armor storage?
Hey @hasty monolith, aside from the wild debate going on right now, do you have any light on what bugs have been fixed yet and which havent? I would like to play a couple raids today but if i am going to lose all my stuff upon exfill again its not rly worth imo
yes. servers are still being worked on. im sure when they are fixed they will post in #📢・announcements or #📢・patches
@graceful trellis @rancid phoenix both of you drop it or move to dms
since when can fenix headshot players?
you on pve?
yeah fr its hard to develop a game like this i mean whe al cant do it probably have respect for the devs without them this game isnt even here
i just asked where he found the fix at...
ye
They are being very vague there. I read through it twice and they arent really specifying.
Can you get in raids?
from what ive seen from even trusted members apparently on pve fenix have been given the ability to head shot. just wear a helmet and youre chilling
I was wearing a helmet
#📈・socials look for a vid named armor priority or smth
what kind?
thank you
They will get it sorted im fine with a few days of downtime for the months of enjoyment I'll get out of the update
tan night vision
yeah me to
lots of people are struggling to. i havent played since last night so im unsure how the servers are as of now
Ight👍
yea that wont block rifle shots + you have the ability to get head eyed
Besides I work 3 days of 12s so I'll be to tired to play anyways lol
crazy
When I use my gun and look a little up the my hand just follows it
are the servers up
? could you elaborate on that or send a video? you can also make a #🐛・bug-reports
Look at patches
found it thank you. new to this server so still learning where shit gets posted
I noticed that too but couldn't get footage if you can record it and send it to the bug fix channel they can work on it
How do I send a video
Yw
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Whens the last time you deleted boundary history?
Idk what's that
i forgot you cant in this channel. doesnt matter anyway just submit a bug report 
Hold up that's an option?
The pcvr didn't work btw so I'm on standalone sadly
Did you run steam as admin?
On meta headseats yes
last night there was an announcement to run it as administrator to fix the issue
I don't use steam I use oculus pc
Oh I'll run meta as admin then
You could also try deleting your save files
!savefiles
Quest Standalone
Go to Quest settings > Storage > Search "Ghosts of Tabor" > Delete "App Data" (not the game itself, two different buttons)
PCVR
Windows Key + R > Copy this into "Open":
%localappdata%\GhostsOfTabor\
Delete the "Saved" folder
Please note
This will NOT get rid your loot.
okay ragesaq you have your command when are we playing tabor together
He arleady tried
But I don't play with steam so I don't have a ghost folder
You should if the game is installed on your pc
I deleted the whole oculus stuff
Appdata is a hidden folder so yo may need to search windows settings for hidden and push the show hidden folders option
Ik
yes, tabor seems to be really sensitive when that boundary data gets out of whack (its used for tracking)
the folder is same regardless of steam and oculus pc versions
(i know because i used to switch a lot between steam and oculus pc)
Has anyone already checked whether the server problems have already been fixed or whether this was just an announcement in the announcement tab?
Just got home from work, Servers still down ?
They’re up
When do y’all think wipe is happening ?
Where do I buy the new shield in shop?
Oh cuz if I search for %appdata%ghosys of tabor it ain't ther
you can’t only in raids
They common?
found in raid only
yea theyre fairly common. they spawn in armor crates and the wooden crates that spawn bags and rigs
however as zstorm said the chances of shields spawning right now is boosted so its subject to change down the line
Is there a sound difference between xm and bar??
I was playing tabor with randoms, and one of them died with a mcx spear. He had to go and he told to me to give it back to him at some point. It’s been 3 days I’ve tried to DM him on when he wants his stuff back because he says that he has it all on video. What should I do?
Just keep waiting or keep it
He hasn’t responded to any of my DMs at all
yes. the only gun that makes the same sound as the xm250 is an unsuppressed mcx spear
Then keep it
Thank you deli
you arent required to give people their loot back. free spear ig 
are you positive?
I’m trying to be a good person here but he’s like ignoring me lmao when im just trying to give him his stuff back
yes. the only punishable thing you can do against teamates in this game who you met from this server is team killing. scamming and stealing guns at exvil or things of that nature arent punishable. + you made the effort to give it back so if you couldnt reach him its not a trash move if you keep the gun.
alright thank you, I just felt bad in my head if I keep it lol
Okay I asked a while ago but didn't get a response but are we able to get kits back lost due to server issues I didn't know they were down until I lost a collector kit in pve
yo that was you?! gimme my shit back
haha lol not the right guy
if servers were forced shutdown or crashed while you were in raid then your items will return after 24 hours
No I exiled but it said I got 999999 xp and my kit didn't load back into my bunker
eh its fine. if he ever reaches out and you dont have the spear anymore you can just ping me and i can hand you a spare to hand him i got loot to spare
that was training mode which is in pvp. so after your pve raid the deploy button changed to train which switched you to pvp due to a glitch and being pve loot doesnt carry over to pvp servers normally, that loot is gone.
wow man thank you very much
oh ive seen that bug before. #🐛・bug-reports i dont think that you get your loot back from that im unsure.
Why are all the vaults so bad rn
its time to main matka 
that raid he brought it in it’s actually funny, I don’t play this game too often but I’ve never seen a spear before up until that raid
same here with the shit i lost
ive lost about 2-3 collector sets to bugs and crashes this wipe lol. it sucks but at the end of the day its just loot. you can always make more of it if you rat hard enough
I’ve owned like one collector kit my entire life, I used to be better at this game but I kinda suck now ngl
Geared scavs for wipe events with ap
at one point this wipe i had like 4 at the same time. ive prob ran through around 20 collector sets total and lost a majority to bar runners lmao
I used the bar pre hype because it’s actually a good gun if you know how to use it
i dont care if i lose gear 1 minute into raid. as long as i got to use my gear for a minute i know im winning
Same with the stoner, it’s actually a really nice gun to use if you know how to aim with iron sights
im a degenerate and got spec 5 like 4 weeks into wipe so my early wipe just consisted of running full kit and winning cause everyone was naked and didnt know about how op the bar was for early game
The bar being at such a low tier for that high caliber is kinda crazy
moral of the story is always run kitted
Pair the bar with AP and knowledge on ironsights and that could rip through kits
yea its gonna get a pretty heavy cooldown and potentially a level nerf next wipe lol
for rat runs i usually run g3a3 ap. its like a bar but more socially acceptable to run
Is there no longer an auto join server at 3:30? I’m trying to play matka miest for quests but can’t get any raids on OCE
I studied tabor and ammo last wipe and if I'm correct bar ap two shots collector armor
If it hasn't changed
That’s actually crazy
Anyone down to run some?
Servers up yet?
Anyone else here cant get past the optimization screen?
Ay man👍
Awesome game thumbsup👍
Can I know why my items glitch away after exfilling?👍
Appreciate loosing three tier six and a g4 👍
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can anyone else not load into bunker or is it just me
I cant too
new servers???? :0
said this multiple times now. its because you glitched into training mode in pvp mode after a raid in pve mode and pve loot doesnt carry over to pvp normally so you lost your gear. after every pve raid, spam the PVE mode yellow button below the map until the Train button switches to Deploy or just quit and relaunch the game
do the new servers mean that I’ll only queue w people on MY servers?
no that means they switched who hosted their servers. its like switching your internet provider
wat
lads how to run steam as an admin i still cant play the game after fucking 24 hours 💔
close out steam via task manager under Background Processes and make sure all processes that mention steam is gone then right click steam and click Run as Administrator
Does this work with the meta PC app aswell, i use virtual desktop
should idk. i play on standalone
Yes, you'll only queue with people queueing in the same server location
Idk what astro was talking about
are servers down or up
Guys how to fix one think
Then im at menu im going to some storage and then im opening door i getting infinity waiting
I can like try to open fast but it not helped,like IM STUCK IN SPAWN
cant even get into the game
why lol, I’d take higher ping and lower queue times over this any day of the week
Vpn
Go to popular lobby
having to vpn cuz the devs are shit is kinda sad
Server provider was changed to accommodate future scav runs
"The devs are shit"?
Bruh
Can i fix a shield on MY body somewhere or somehow
No
Hands only
That makes absolutly no sense but ok
when can i play on pcvr again im tweaking
I agree
You should be able to sling it on your back or smth
if, then it should replace the backpack slot tho, meaning u cant have both
Or the util slot on the leg
That sounds reasonable
in what world can a person carry a shield of that size/weight on their leg ._.
...
Both are way too big
Are servers up?
i still cant play shit
guess i cant play for two weeks now
im tweaking i wanna play ts im addicted i have 25hours in the game and i have it since like 2 days
before you continue ur rant, kindly move to a different channel
mb gang i jus wanna know if im the only one with the issues
no you are not, and ofc its top priority for the devs atm
exfilzone has scav runs and they don’t do this
keep an eye on #📢・announcements and #📢・patches , u will be informed there once stuff is fixed
aight bet. I had lads before the update so it could be my pc too
cuz like theres a chance that my game runs clean like no lags at all and sometimes its jsut pure lags
Ye
because they opted for it from the get go, meaning they didnt have to switch due to the mechanic switch
nerd talk
no, just plain fact that explains why ur argument is silly
holy my spelling is non existent today
is there a suggestion channel?
longest suggestion i ever made
Are they working on fixing the Item collisions in the bags? i mean it's not too much of a problem, but i'm mainly wondering why the collsion was removed in the past few patches
lads can you put guns on your back? Like is there a slot for a rifle? im wondering cuz people were talking about that but im not sure
no, no item collisions anymore
pretty sure its so you cant stuff the entire lobby in a adventure bag
No, just hip or inside backpack slot
alright
My game wont load im on quest 3 no pc is there a way to fix it?
servers down
I wish the geartech top slot was accessible without pulling the bag off
That'd be really great
Ok thank you. Do you know when they will be up
no idea
It's because they could not get completely rid of backpacks rotating and flying when some items were colliding inside it, so this was better solution than forever fighting that bug
Ok thank you
why would u need to switch servers to host scav runs bru
would be lit but would be hard to script i think cuz you would always grab the backpack when trying to reach for your gun
Make it a different grab button?
It wouldn't be too hard
makes sense
i get that but it wasn't really the item collisions that caused the problem, it was opening and closing the bag that made people able to stuff basically unlimited items in the bag, but i do get your point
are the severs down or still up
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u have no clue how their code works, and neither do i.
they switched server for a reason, let the devs do their work. especially if u dont know how it works
I have
Months ago
Thanks tho!
are the severs down or still up
that limited time to put the item in caused the main problem, it was precise and limited to smaller items unlike stuffing actual guns into a backpack.
Ok, thank you for letting #❓・questions know that you made suggestion and that you want a thing. Much appreciated.
are the severs down or still up
😐
Ik this isn't the place for it, but I was just adding an idea to someone else's suggestion
are the severs down or still up
d o w n
ok
lol proving my point
none of us know if they Need to do dis
exactly. but the devs, who know what they are doing, decided that it was needed.
and unless you know that its not needed, how can u say that the people who are doing it are wrong
and what exactly is your point with that?
half baked logic but forgetting that the end point isnt affected by it?
Anyone know how long it takes to join a raid?
that we dont need the new server providers
and what is ur source?
no idea with the new provider and the server issues 🤷♂️
we established that u dont know if its needed or not.
so how can u claim that its not needed
u said im proving ur point but ur just contradicting urself 😭
they clearly dont brah
So because none of us here know their server infrastructure and the problems posed by wanting to turn on scav runs, you assume that it must be true that there was no need to switch service provider? Is that your point?
once again, on what base are u making that statement
that seems like a neat summary 
I mean he's listing the only reasonable source
Trust me bruv
longer queue times for no reason
Is there a way to hold the shields other than in hand
It was already explained to you
Time to move on
wjat no it wasnt
thats the MOST trusted source
You have absolutely no reason to go "they don't need to switch server providers" because you have 0 clue about the inner workings of the game, it ain't that deep
Now move on
No
…like in your teeth?
Ok
legit just wanted to know why lmfao
Its taking more then 10 min to load what's happening
so like.
"none of us know if they need to do this" (#❓・questions message)
"they clearly dont need to do this" (#❓・questions message)
what?
Ok, sorry. So then your point is that, because none of us know their server infrastructure and the problems posed, you assume that the devs want us to play less and are only making excuses to drive their playerbase away from their game? Are you assuming malice against their own customers rather than an actual need for solving problems? Is that right?
Which was explained to you
You just going "I don't believe that's true" won't change that no matter how much you stomp your little feet and go "lalala I'm not believing you"
sorry but im not reading allat
Yeah, I can see your reading comprehension is not the best, sorry.
Anyways back to people with actual questions that actually want answers
friendly fire?
Anyone having trouble going in a raid ?
general server problems, see #📢・patches
Oh I thought they fixed it cause ive been waiting since yesterday
yo guys does someone know how to fix the problem when you join in tabor and doesnt like let you in tabor it doesnt load in your safe house
No, they’re working on a fix now
There are a few things you can try like running steam as an administrator
I tried that
Still general server problems, see #📢・patches
Playing on standalone quest also works
I know but pcvr is much better
Yeah but thems the breaks
eh, the literate part of the server is small enough to be somewhat ignored 
ids everyo e able to loafd into a raid now
Anyone know if the servers are back up?
see #📢・patches for updates
is there anywhere on your person that you can put the shields or do you have to hold them the entire raid
You have to hold em
ok
Can you put ammo pouches on your bag because it has a gear icon?
It’s for helmets
real
Are the servers doing it ?
no therr bac up
Ik but it has the gear icon
try it out 
Hey so I’ve had this bug for two days where I can load into the game just gives me the logo and then crashes the game. I bought the game four days ago so I don’t know why this should happen. I’ve tried sending in a bug report but it just says error.
ur hip also has a gear icon, does that mean ur now able to put helmets on ur hip?
-# u see my point here, right?
currently it might be related to server issues, check out #📢・announcements and #📢・patches
Ok thanks
Tabor up yet
Is there airdrops in pve mode?
It won’t let me lose in to a pvp rads
only in teams
Thank you very much
Are servers up?
Yep
Why won't it put me in a raid
It keeps going up to like frigin 5 minutes then I reset and it just keeps doing it
Yeah it do the same thing wit me
I only managed to get into 1 matika underground raid today
tf i cant load into a raid😭
If I bought the samurai pack will I be able to keep it?
Server issues at the moment due to a provider switch
7 minsssss
I been a waiting 20 minutes for a raid and did not get no raid 💔
I played one matika underground raid like half a hour ago and that's it 🙏💔😭
Is this a question?
Servers are having issues at the moment
#📢・patches
Will there be a silent north skin like how they did with grim?
DITCH THE NEW SERVER PROVIDERS BRO
Read the patch notes
New is slightly better then old
The patch notes say it was much worse on the old servers
I cant even go into the bunker💔
Hewo
Ok thanks
Sm1 know why when im going to deploy it aborts?
has the max queue of 3:20 been removed?
the game is having some major server issues which will be fixed soon. we dont know how soon tho
-# soon
im unsure if thats due to the new servers bugging out or if thats intentional but yes
I played tabor like 15 minutes ago I went into a raid survived and exfiled but when I extracted all my loot was gone and I checked for some reason when I started the game it was automatically in training mode
Does loot disappear when you are in training raids? I am still new to tabor
It’s a server bug right now, the servers are overloaded , they are fixing it
Okay will I get my loot back in the kiosk?
Trading is in !lfg
!lfg
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When’s wipe bruh
I new to discord what is lfg
3-6 months since last wipe day
Is questpc working yet?
Looking for group
K thx
So not yet, fun
No, you run the game as admin
Thats for steam, not meta link
Last time I tried I was stuck on the loading screen. I'll try again later
So every one ghost is WERID
So is wipe soon?
My ghost is WERID
is seveR down still
Whats the point of the shields, isn't that gonna promote more grubby playstyles?
rushing rooms
Are the servers down again
Rushing rooms is supposed to be a last resort risk, either throw nades or fall back
bro that what a shield is for
to protect while someone clears the room
Tbf they are kinda rare
Did they do anything for April fools?
give us a another dlc and shitty update
Google shield use in tactical teams. Usually point man is protected by the shield
Too busy trying to fix everything
Fuck they should’ve gave us like 69420 kurunas or something like that with Max trader or make our head huge just something cool
Today we are the April fools
so for those wondering if the glitch where you exfill and lose all your shit is fixed yet... its not
yesterday i successfully exfilled from a routine raid in chodov mall with my best kit on me, only to spawn in my bunker with NOTHING on me. today i asked if that bug was one of the bugs that had been fixed already in last nights hot fix and nobody could get me a straight answer. rather than potentially lose more high tier kit whenever i exfill, i decided to do some naked runs. i JUST finished a run where i got some decent gear (a kriss smg, some good sights, some military grade ar silencers, a big backpack etc) when i exfill succesfully, and BOOM! all my shit is gone AGAIN... when will the team make this a priority to fix? because this pretty much makes the game unplayable at this point. every time i reach a semi-playable point, i get fucking reset
real
they already did that and it was unfun because of how everyone was running ap and dying in seconds
I wonder if exvilzone did anything
bro for real, wtf is going on with the devs
Skill Issues
Does anyone know? If exvilzone did anything?
With respect thats a question for the EZ discord. I also dont know what PeeWee Herman did for aprils fools
Does the shields block 250 ??
250 what?
He means the xm250 (6.8x51)
devs are a lil bad ngl
I have a problem with Tabor. Every time i complete a raid I am losing my gear.
yeah they already stated that servers are unstable right now. they are fixing it as we speak
wym
Thank you for the info
np
servers still out?
bro dont even play the game rn there so many bugs
mostly yes. some can join but they are unstable. updates with the situation will be in #📢・patches or #📢・announcements
Not curently worth risking gear on. Servers are wounded
got it thanks guys
what armour or helmet should i use when using ak5c
I had a Ragnar filled with goodies and it went into the map mid raid does anyone know how I can get it back?
Maid uniform and cat ears
I mean just the best you are willing to take
ok
nothing to do about it
Broooooo
game is unstable rn. it was a risk you were willing to take
Why's it taking 1 hour to load in a match
I lost also high tear gear
we all did
Are servers down
Essentially yes
Is there any information when it could be playable
it is but just dont play it
they should just shutdown the game for now and fix everything
Just check #📢・announcements #📢・patches
ok
Or people that feel it's unbearable can just choose not to play while the others provide data for the devs
honestly this type of shit shouldn't be happening alot but it does its kinda stupid
Do you get your gear back after dying solo In pve
When are they gonna add back north south east and west servers and take a way the new server crap
Welcome to early access
You can always choose to only buy/play finished games
I can’t get into any raids cause of the new server shit
wym
Any April fools update or anything?
Nope
"The only devs who break their games every single update say there is no way to prevent breaking their game with each update"
I mean that while yes it's frustrating when the game doesn't work properly you did buy into a game that's unfinished and if you don't like that you should play more polished/finished games
the game has been out for 2 years how is it not polished yet
what round will the riot sheild stop up to?
It's been in development for 3 years at this point
That's very little time for a game let alone vr
9mm is stopped and anything above that is a chance i believe
mf ik another game that been in development for the same amount of time and it has less devs less bugs and is lowkey better overall 😭
Then go play that I guess
is there a spot I can go to see the chances???
What are fenix runs
Being able to spawn as an NPC into an ongoing raid basically
You'll be able to keep what you loot/spawn with
Oh thanks
Do you get your gear back after dying solo In pve
i expect more from the devs when they prob have so much funding/money and devs to make this game good
No
Pve coop work?
What some Boa dude told me I do and I get it back after like a day or two but most members say no, This Is In PVE not PVP
on the wiki on the ballistics page it has the chances for different protection grades. I dont think the wiki team has shields done yet but you can get an idea at least. Im assuming the shields are about PG2-3
That’s if it’s insured
ok ty
Nope found it in raid
Then u won’t get it
and they keep on adding dlc that people keep on buying for some reason there no way they cant afford to make the game better
in some instances the free server crash insurance triggers when you die/your game crashes in solo pve
thats not intended and will change over time
go somewhere else to rant
It's still new content and not much dev time is spent on it so IDC
Sad I think they should keep it but as a dlc and for pve only, Ppl are happy and tabor gets money I dont see a problem
i dunno about that
pve is supposed to be the same as pvp just minus enemy players
but who knows maybe we will get some shit to tweak how it plays down the line
Are servers back up?
Sad so how can I trigger the crash thingy so i get stuff back?
Is this game open world
Multiple maps you can play on
How much time the servers are gonna stay like this
Shields do their own thing, they don't follow conventional protection grades and will be tweaked/adjusted soon so nobody is doing ballistics for shields right now.
aside from that they don't seem very consistent 🤷♂️
Yes but do you have to do quests or smt or like just walk around
Cause looks like its taking ages
You have quests to level up traders so you can buy better equipment
But is it open world
Kind of not fully
Can you just do what you want?
yeah thats what I knew as well but just as a baseline from what ive heard and tested myself
You spawn in a bunker where you keep all your stuff then you go into a map with other players and find loot but you have to fight other players to get their loot
It's neither RPG nor like looter shooter. I assume you are not too familiar with extraction shooters, so just think Battle Royale, but multiple people can survive, not just one.
Alr
Does anyone know how long the servers will be down for?
I would recommend buying it if you dont already have it
It's extremely misleading to add protection grades to shields really because it just does not and will not work the same way protection grades do.
Not that people understand protection grades to begin with. As evident by all the Collector wearing children expecting to be invulnerable with their armor.
isn't protection grade = percentage to block certain bullet types? so like t7 protection will 100% block 9x19 but tier 1 or 2 wont
How’s the servers atm?
Blocks penetrations, but you still take blunt damage IIRC
yeah mb
Isnt a t7 the same as a t6 just bigger and covers more
more protection tier = less blunt dmg and less pen chance/dmg i think then different ammo types give you more pen and blunt dmg/chance
There is penetration chance, but then there is also blunt damage if no penetration happens. Also penetrating a shield will not have the same immediate effect on your health as penetrating armor does.
The shots that go through the shield get slowed down, so they deal less damage. It's not going to be consistent between rounds as it seems the game uses physics to calculate damage and the velocity of the round. Different guns apply different velocities to the rounds.
How’s the servers at the moment?
does it really matter tho 😭 better armor = better protection
Knowing something is better is nice. Knowing if its 2% better or 10x better is important
Well, yes, but then this train of thought is what leads to collector children think that they are invulnerable, because they think that the best armor in game lets them ignore any shots under certain caliber
until they come here to cry "wtf i just got onetapped with collector fix your game"
that on them ngl
the whole discussion is about not being able to assign conventional PG to shields
@hasty monolith hi, i am thinking of buying the Samurai dlc just for the c1300 not having the annoying muddy overlay
can i do it or will you guys change it?
bro the c1300 doesn't even got that bad of a overlay
its super annoying in recording
i know theres streamer cam but that destroys my performance
Im not cara but
Well, but did you fix your game though? 
The last patch did cause issues for some people. In a grand act of community CWS has extended that pain to EVERYONE! YAY!
is the sever up?
Check #📢・patches for the most accurate info
ok thanks
Hey I'm downloading the game rn for the first time and I wanted to know that after it's done downloading if anyone can help me learn how to play?
!boa but honestly, since servers have notable problems right now, today is not the best day
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Ok
How to not die
dont
Do yall goat work
are the servers up?
No
!boa
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@tame raft I do not know what that means
are servers working?
They help you learn game mechanics and improve your gameplay. Looks like you're verified, head over to https://discord.com/channels/1231367841844822076/1231372500898680863 to request one.
please check back in #📢・patches and #📢・announcements for updates on servers
Kann the item in the backpack get colischen pla :(
there’s no updates today😞
Hello?
If these ever stop more then 10mm this is the like wet dream of campers
R the servers down?
personally I want them to be as close to real life performance as possible but that would mean big shield stops 7.62x39 and 30-06 so for balance reasons I'm cool with current protection
How did I get one tapped by a colt huckleberry when I have tier 6, uwu helmet, and xm250
Xm250 ain’t gunna give u extra health
How do i know if collector has spawned? And can someone help me get him
Only way to know is to go check. A quick way to check without actually going into the room is just checking if the fenix inside msm have spawned or not. No fenix = collector spawned.
U can also wait and listen outside… for massive gun fire grenades and an army of foot steps inside… but this is after someone has attacked him/ raged him
What’s the best way to kill collector i have succseded once after 5 days but my teammate died, is there a way to shoot at him without him shooting me?
Come at him from upstairs throw a few grenades then BAR him rest way down is way I go about it… I seen a video one day that u can peak the doorway behind the stage and get him to
Why are boa applications closed
Can u help me?
Did all the tomfoolery from yesterday evening calm down?
I’m at work bud I’m just visiting on discord but I’d be happy to play sometime and we can try
unfortunately no
What about the server issues? Yesterday it was nit possible to load into a pve raid is that stuff fixed?
(Thumbs up emoji) ‘couldnt find 👍’
I also have not played since the update so the BAR might have been nerfed. Not 100% about that one but before was by far best gun for him FMJ
ITS STILL GOATED
AP will melt him a lot faster but BAR is best option as it’s stupid cheap so u can try and try and try
Are servers down??
Can i ask someone in BOA to help me kill him?
When will they be up cause I literally just now got the game and I'm tryna play but I cant
Not up for me I was waiting for ten mins and nothing happened
I’m not a boa or affiliated with them, I’m just a player and have never used boa…. But I would say if u sign up for one they would let you choose what to go for. Though im not 100% how it works my mindset is u sign up and they get to you and run a raid with you and move to next one. But I could be totally wrong about this
Yeah some people have been able to play since last night some haven’t been able to get into a raid
they stop 9mm 100% but it chances for the other rounds above
Servers up?
Yea but what I’m saying is if they get to pen chance from a 7.62 and then you are wearing good chest piece that also has a pen chance…then chances are…this would be invincible shield that u can peak through.
true, then dont let timmys get good armor
I thought the shields would be completely impenetrable 😔
So what’s all in the update
The uodate is most likely bug fixed and or April fools
backpack hitbox, you can put helmets on backpacks, shields, new skin for helmet and that's it I think
From the update last night?
How Do I get spectre 5 fast I need 24k more
yeah
why did they make it so that you grip the right or left side of the riot sheild and not the middle
Kill Fenix samual
Everything I say comes from a solo perspective though. I very rarely play in a squad so things are different when 3 ppl can dump a mag from 3 diff angles… but solo players would be up poop creek
Or do the specific quests for specter
does the crypto miner work even when I'm not playing the game?
thers a task were u kill collector 2times kertek 2 times and 5fish it gives 35k
If you have gas yes the crypto mine works all the ti,r
Yep, as long as you have your power running.
As long as your power is on
Can anybody help me I suck at the game
okay ty
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How many gpus do y’all have this wipe?
34
olmost all but 4
one. got it from a dead guys backpack I didn't sven kill
dam
Damn now I feel broke😂😂😂
Holy moly
What does boa mean
I have 2 full shelves and half of my third shelf
how.
Read the bot message
I joined
I play on pve it’s not that hard to get gpus
oh. I always play pvpve
okay thx
Np just run mall on repeat you can get easily 5 gpus in a day @formal seal
Why does the game always crash
What are you playing on Bren?
how long will this update take
Quest
I don’t have any issues crashing on standalone quest 3s
I’m the only one on the internet, and I’ve switched through 3 different ones. My game crashes at least twice every other raid
I just got into a game but then it said that it was about to update so I went to exfil and I got back to my bunker but all of my loot was gone will I get it back
It could be a quest issue then I would recommend redownloading the game maybe some files are corrupted or something
Me and my friends don’t have issues crashing and we all play on quest. Then again we never have had issues even back when people said it was the worst.
Is this patch going to fix the server issue?
How long are the Servers down?
We have no idea^^^^
Are you sure
Realistically we just have to wait and find out if the patch fixes it
Yo guys if I'm in the kill list screen when the game is about to update will I keep my stuff ???
No
hey i came in full t6 kit will i loose the stuff, couldnt get to exvil in time
You should I think?^^^
It won’t let me verify
Nope, the game is actually done now, they are closing because you asked that specific question.
What is it saying?
Yeah Scott got tired of us bro deleted the game😂🙏
I came in with ak5c three stoners full of ap , tier 6 , altyn and Ragnar but I got to the kill list screen just before it update do I keep my stuff ??
people are saying different stuff, i couldnt get to exvil in time do i loose my stuff
Shit at this point bro, might need to start it over type shit
When I click on it, it says the link is timed out
You may you may not link
Leave and rejoin the server for a new link.
The doa one?
Yeah
yo do i loose the stuff i came in with
Ok
Was it a server crash?
the update happened and i couldnt get to exvil in time
Can anyone tell me when the Servers on back again?
Not too sure but I believe that counts as a server crash, you'll get the stuff you came in with back after 24hrs if so.
im not gonna be able to play PvE im guessing due to servers being down correct?
Ok
praying 😭
Yes
Get the updates role to be pinged each time there's an update. #👥・roles
Thank you sooooo much
Thx
Bro I was playing an offline match and I had such good stuff
are riot shields even good
Who wants some of my soup
Will we get a role for liberty edition ( or is there one) like the FF role?
are the servers down rn
ty
Why don’t you just say yes or no instead of giving them a different channel
No
"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"
Do they reply to bug reports? If yes, how long will it usually take?
No they don’t care about the game enough
mm alright I remember something a while back about them not doing it but I didn't know if anything changed. thanks
They don't reply however all reports are looked at.
Who wants soup
poor koneko 😭
How
Me want gamer soup🧌
No just regular cream potatoes and bacon. Don’t be weird
Is there another update
he's holding off the horde of questions seemingly alone lmfao
I’m doing so much trust
i got a collector kit in a raid just before the shutdown will i still have it after?
When can I play
what should i do to go from spectre 4 to 5 without having to kill everyone on matka night?
Never
When you teach a man to fish he’s gonna ask for a ride down to the docks everyday
i literally got out of the raid minutes before the shutdown
Please read the message in #📢・patches .
anyone know how to update meta quest pc app tabor i uninstalled it right now
Question tho, will the independence pack or the founding fathers pack be coming back, I just really wanna know.
he can walk
Teach a man to fish and he’ll ask you for supplies. Make enough money to make people fish for you
IE will when PSVR releases, only for that platform and won't be able to link iirc. FF won't ever come back.
the backpack is supposed to have collision coming out but not going in right? that’s what they showed off in a video
hey so im not complaining or asking for loot back, but i got a shit ton of loot in a raid a bit ago and the servers shut down right as i got to exfil does anyone know if i will be able to get the loot i got from the raid or just what i brought in
it does have it to my knowledge when I tried it out(pretty excited) but that was before the server fiasco
And any Updates?
wdym?
Servers
did you read #📢・announcements or #📢・patches ?
Yeah why
because that’s all we know
Ok
i tried it before the server fiasco too and i has collision both ways
how do i update quest link
What happens with the people who bought the samurai pack? My friend bought it.
you have to kinda push through it. It has a certain force required
anyone know how to update meta pc app
Settings or uninstall then re install
Also when r servers back on ?
i uninstalled then reinstalled its still on the same version
im talking about tabor
guys check patches it tells u why
meta pc is saddly very bad at handing out updates
and you cant check for updates
so you just gotta wait until it arrives
feel free to bother meta about it, their pc support is meh
As Val mcx spear and m4
cant be the mcx spear tho
It's a kriss vector.
No it’s a spear
They're talking about the gun in the 2nd img, not the one in the bag.
Nah
Tabor won’t even let me load in now
blind mfs
sorry I know question has been asked. but where is the suggestions page?
I can’t even get into the damn game bru
We have announcements for a reason
Mb
the servers are down it legit says
Is there any statistical difference between the JW Whakazashi and the new sword?
thx
"ArE tHe SeRVeRs Up YeT 🤡 "
I don’t think to look at patches bru mb g
reading must be hard
Btw @dim oar you don't have the updates role, you only grabbed the polls role.
Scroll up a bit more in that channel to find the reaction message for the updates role.
Is there a difference between the Taran tactical, and the Samurai sword?
yes and no
wdym by that
.
Can you see stats if linked accounts?
they both katanas but different types
Yep
why wont one time optimization work
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when is tabor coming back online
When it is
thanks man
No problem
Thanks
Yo will item collision ever come back??
TTI wakizashi is shorter and does not have a tsuba. The Samuri Katana is a full size sword
Ate servers back?
So i take that as a not yet
yes
Check #📢・patches if nothing is said then no
But my game has just updated?
Check #📢・patches if nothing is said then no they wont lie to u
FR(
Might be done then but I’ll go off what is announced in the discord
I am upgrading my quest 2 to a quest 3s and I was wondering if my dlc’s will transfer over to the new headset
if you use the same account, yes they will
They will if it is the same account
when servers mannn
When the server open ?
when announced in #📢・patches
Around 20 mins according to viewie
Okk
single player works?
No
Whole game is down hotfix is being applied to both pvp and pve
So for Multiplayer PVE, having the DLC is required. From what i heard its to compensate for the server costs, since singleplayer pve doesnt require the use of them. Would it be possible, to make people be able localhost the PVE Multiplayer match for PC / High end PC players?
The reason they didn’t do localhost is because a quest headset wouldn’t handle it and they want the game to be the same for everyone
i think pve solo also useses theit servers and if they use local host people could just cheat
I just purchased the game with some of its add-ons. After the optimization screen everything is black. When I move my hands I can hear menu buttons, but nothing. I have uninstalled and reinstalled and it still hasn't fixed the issue. Can anyone give me advice on this?
How long until mod application are accepted?
servers are currently down?
I see. Is the reason for the DLC being required what i thought it was tho?
No news is good news
yea
This is on purpose run to prevent ppl to join the game, they’re updating it rn
Yes it is for server cost as pve has its own servers
what if their adding the april fools update??
Hahaha!...Well I sure picked a fine time to participate. Thanks
they said that they added item collisions or they were but its still annoying to loot cause the items go through wach toher
👍
servers are back
They said they weren’t adding item collision as that was a big crash issue so now the inside of the bags has collision but the items inside does not
Who accepts it then?
Head mods/cm
👍
whos going see the minecraft movie when it comes out on the 4th
Servers are up now according to the patchnote
So where shields nerfed or buffed?
How do i store my shields i have both large and small
Right?
Shelf of it fits
Yes
Ok
wait so if the shield is t4 protection doesn't that mean it block/reduction most dmgs from rifles and smgs that are non ap
How big are the shields? I wanna know for when I get one. Like where can I store them?
Yes
One is about full body, the other is arm length
Why is there a 2 minute timer to say stuff in general
ok how do we store the shields now?
Ok thank you!
Lockers store shields
Update dropped
so ratting is just more op
Would it be placed in the same spot as where armors are stored?
Did they fix that with patch?
Because when servers go down a lot of people go into the discord and chat so without the timer wouldn’t be able to read any messages
Oh makes sense thanks
I thought that’s where they’d always be, they only fixed mannequins
@random lily restar your headset patch is out
Honestly shields are pretty useless but its quite a cool thing to have
well now they are back
could they possibly make two hooks in the bunker specifically for the shield one for the big on and on for a small shield?
Are the servers fixed yet?
Yes
Yeah thats where I put mine, I’ll hop on and look though
Sooooo where am I supposed to store my shields now???
Cause since they added armor folding I might just put armors on shelves with shields in my lockers
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Shelf if can fit
That was my thought process lol
Genuine question why do people not check Patches and announcements but they ask other people if servers are up or not?
Not the big shield sadly
Timmys
game is a lil busted for me
Most of the server are 13 year olds who get upset over a game and complain always
because its stupid kids mostly
Do 2 riots stack?
Fair enough answers now imma pray to fish
thank you 🙂
try restarting your headset
Test it
Anyone see the new mp5 skin. I’m curious cause when the new mp5k that was teased comes out. Will the skin transition over?
I will I think they do but idk yet
we have no idea, but prolly not
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Lobby’s don’t need to be full anymore ?!?!?
never really had to
I'm duck on 100%
close and reopen the game it fixes it
If I factory reset my quest 3 will I loose my progress on Tabor?
It doesn’t. I dislike that but it doesn’t.
Nope
Nope you’re data is linked to your account
I’m stuck on 100 percent bru istg ofc this stuff starts happening when I’m on spring break
No but have fun reinstalling and setting it back up tho
Anyone stuck on 0B when updating tabor on meta
I play at 3-4 in the morning so I like 👍
restart your headset
restart the game or headset
Alr
I’ve restarted my headset like 10 time nothing
Ur not the only one happened to me when i was on spring break but i got different games to play so
Would I have to set anything up in game or is it just the install?
This the only game that I rlly enjoy anymore man
Everyone that's stuck on 100 just wait a little it worked for me I just had to wait
Are u on pcvr, meta or pico?
Pc is not working morher bencho
Restart
Just Meta
Not sure if its just me but in the last few days has anyone else on the quest 3 observed less crisp graphics
Is anyone else getting just stuck on a black screen when they try to load into tabor?
no
(standalone)
What’s the update?
Okay so u would have to reconnect your headset on meta horizon if u use that relogin into ur acc and everything basically set it up like the first day u got the headset and reinstall all games u have or just tabor if ur a feind (jk) so best option is to restart or delete and reinstall tabor