esports-discussion

[balmy wolf]

ok

[north relic]

addi is worse

[devout path]

I carry sans

[frosty patrol]

my dad’s favorites are jjanggu, piggy, and danteh

he’s an outlaws fan because his favorite grocery store sponsors them

[hot onyx]

?????

[frosty patrol]

his take is outlaws 2nd NA

behind reign

[hot onyx]

bold but i see it

[hot onyx]

ew

[frosty patrol]

fuel 4 glads 3

[devout path]

?

[frosty patrol]

he hates all non-sparkle fuel players

and constantly questions why the players are all korean kids

[balmy wolf]

chad

fuck hanbin

fuck fearless

sparkle stan for life

[plush grail]

Fuck sparkle

[balmy wolf]

fuck you

wqit

sorry

anyways

i dont like your nicknamr

[plush grail]

Don't care ur 13

Respect your elders

[balmy wolf]

im 14 actually

and ur short

[plush grail]

What

[frosty patrol]

Ian is 5’10

mystary is 4’6

[plush grail]

I legit live in all of your heads rent free

[noble nexus]

I don’t think that’s true

I forgot this server existed for like a week

[sullen berry]

who are you all talking about anyway

all i see is fuck proper

[noble nexus]

Nah I think they’re talking about the shock Stan?

Not sure tbh

[balmy wolf]

Who?

Bro

Imma make her

Watch owl

[next mesa]

Do it

🥵🥵

[balmy wolf]

Imma break if she’s not Atlanta fan tho

[next mesa]

Brainwash her

Propaganda

feed her the Nero propaganda

[balmy wolf]

What if she drops me for Nero

[balmy wolf]

im 6 foot and a half

[north relic]

stream it

[balmy wolf]

ok

[weary latch]

can you still get the tracer league skin?

[plush grail]

not right now

[weary latch]

ah i wanted to get it this week rip

[trim shadow]

Suprised brig didnt get tank treatment at this point

They couldve easily but her and doom in the tank slot and made a fresh Melee support

[vagrant jacinth]

Maybe once owl starts up again

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah bra it's definitely that easy

[tropic herald]

Brig is weird rn

Bc she doesn’t feel right but she’s definitely still good

[next mesa]

Tbh Nero is not that hot

U got this

[north relic]

is this yours

[tropic herald]

It kinda looks like everyone’s power rankings

[next mesa]

Valiant is #3 other wise pretty based

[tropic herald]

Valiant is not as good as you think they are

[north relic]

i think this is avast's

https://twitter.com/Avast_o/status/1520910633688088576?s=20&t=MQmdRGEW9QUnq9rpTJrmQA

Avast (@Avast_o)

Why is new york this low

please help me

2022 pre-season non flip flop rankings

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Twitter · May 1, 2022, 11:38 PM

[hot onyx]

Levy

Valiant

does not have a single player

[next mesa]

And titans too low

[hot onyx]

that is individually better

[next mesa]

Sans

[hot onyx]

than any counterpart on Spark

[next mesa]

Did I ask

[north relic]

sans does valiant have any players that are individually better than spark?

[hot onyx]

no but did I ask when you said Profit is a better ashe than Carpe?

[hot onyx]

thanks for asking lsd, no they don't

[full lichen]

Atlanta above Glads? Toronto over Justice? Vancouver under Boston?

[north relic]

toronto clears justice

[full lichen]

Vigilante, Decay, Mag

[north relic]

muze arguably better than mag

twilight is better than vigi

[full lichen]

Toronto has an inflexible tank in Muze

[north relic]

chorong opener might be the biggest diff to ever exist

muze is flexible wdym

he can go orisa rein ball monkey

[full lichen]

I like Muze but what if Zarya is meta?

[north relic]

they have hotba

known zarya

did well on fusion with her

[full lichen]

Is Hotba really that good enough to diff Mag tho?

Not really

[north relic]

diff mag on zarya?

kalios is playing if zarya

[full lichen]

True

[north relic]

i probably give kalios the edge on zarya but hotba is no bum

[full lichen]

Unless Mag finds out he's secretly good at Zarya

[full lichen]

I can agree with that

[north relic]

dps depends on heroes

i take heesu over decay on certain picks

[full lichen]

Yeah true

Plus no one has seen Sojourn players yet

If Assassin could not do what he did last year on Sombra he'll be good

[north relic]

heesu better sombra though imo

[full lichen]

Ngl Assassin could be one of the top 5 Sombra's

[north relic]

lip doha heesu fits

[full lichen]

Then Assassin

And don't you dare say Dante's washed ass could be batter

[north relic]

jinmu

actually idk

[full lichen]

Ehhh Jinmu over Assassin's Sombra?

[north relic]

where is the local reign fan

who is their sombra

[full lichen]

They traded him lmao

[wide minnow]

Sadly yes

[north relic]

i just posted avasts tweet

and its exactly the same

real troll

[wide minnow]

I posted it here so it's mine

[full lichen]

Ngl if I posted mine I would get flame for my placements

[glacial crystal]

thx mik will try game good

[north relic]

do it

[willow drum]

Toronto clears Justice, not sure about ATL take tho

[north relic]

glads above reign imo

[willow drum]

ye

[full lichen]

I have mayhem top 5 NA

[north relic]

post your entire rankings though

sounds like you bought scrimbux

[full lichen]

13. Spitfire 12. Eternal 11. Uprising 10. Reign 9. Defiant 8. Titans. 7 Justice 6. Shock 5. NYXL 4. Outlaws 3. Mayhem 2. Fuel 1. Gladiators

[north relic]

https://preds.slmn.io/pr2/owl2022 use this site

send me the ss

all i can look at is reign #10 though

[full lichen]

For Apac 7. Charge 6. Valiant 5. Fusion 4. Hunters 3. Spark 2. Dynasty 1 Dragons

Ok

[north relic]

alr this is what you put

NA is abysmal

[full lichen]

Yep that's mine

[balmy wolf]

Wtf

Is that

Bro

[vagrant cargo]

Oh lord

[balmy wolf]

That’s gotta be

A prank

[full lichen]

This is mine

[north relic]

its an opinion, it cant be wrong

[full lichen]

It's not

[north relic]

NTB's

[vagrant cargo]

REAL

[balmy wolf]

Oh dear

Im sorry for u

[vagrant cargo]

lsd I hope u know that my opinion statement was satire

[balmy wolf]

Get well soon

[north relic]

yea

but thats an opinion if its satire

[vagrant cargo]

Damn

[vagrant cargo]

Sidenote I lowballed Atlanta like crqzy

And highballed toronto

[north relic]

why did you use that website

[vagrant cargo]

Because Atlanta are bums

[vagrant cargo]

Looks cool

[full lichen]

Agreed

[vagrant cargo]

W

[tropic herald]

Toronto

Wow

I hope Atlanta are good this year

They are such a cool roster

[north relic]

all i have to say

is that paris looks too high

[full lichen]

Ngl I hate Atlanta but love Nero

[vagrant cargo]

Paris is my S3 mayhem

Naga glister kaan vestola dridro are all A tier imo and got dragged down by Daan

[worn falcon]

Bless defiant

[north relic]

imo having a bunch of A's isnt good enough

[full lichen]

The Defiant are gonna shit the bed this year

[north relic]

and like naga glister kaan arent A imo

[full lichen]

Glister is

[worn falcon]

Fake news

[north relic]

the team with the highest chance of bed shitting is spark

[frosty patrol]

I'd argue it's chengdu sadly

we shed 2 coaches and 3 players in less than a month

there's a chance there's just disorder within the team

and the players cannot fuck hard enough individually

[cedar oasis]

i know chengdu will be mid

[frosty patrol]

nah

they're top 7 right now

potentially top 5\

[cedar oasis]

no

[frosty patrol]

lowest they could go is like

11-12

[cedar oasis]

coaching diff

[frosty patrol]

because their players are too individually skilled

[cedar oasis]

they are not tho

tank diff

[vagrant cargo]

God tier coaching as well

[north relic]

who is it again

is jmac head coach?

[vagrant cargo]

Kaan and glister EASILY are and Naga is underrated

[vagrant cargo]

Yeah

[north relic]

who else

[next mesa]

https://twitter.com/Lusin_OW/status/1520977488754909185?t=S8CYb4g53C75P3VeVItFwA&s=19

Lusin/Lexi/Lucy 🏳️‍⚧️ (@Lusin_OW)

@do_diya Dridro & Kaan > Ojee & UV
Daan > Gator
Vestola < Hawk
Naga > Nero
Glister (Tracer) > Venom (Tracer)
Glister < Kai

Speedily doesnt matter too late in the season.

Twitter · May 2, 2022, 4:04 AM

[north relic]

thats a really bad take

[vagrant cargo]

The Daan take is atrocious

Other than that I agree

I think UV ojee vs kaan dridro is =

Because kaan>UV and dridro<Ojee

[cedar oasis]

daan shits on gator

[north relic]

an actual gator can shit on daan still

i take kai over glister on HS

[cunning patrol]

Glister tracer > venom tracer???????

Just wrong

[noble nexus]

Glister tracer > Venom tracer is a shambolic take

[north relic]

cold take

erasable colored pencils fucking suck

[cunning patrol]

This guy said shambolic

But I agree

[hot onyx]

true

[full lichen]

Jinmu leave Mmonk and 9aga have something to say to you

[frosty patrol]

dude

can you read

I am the biggest chengdu simp here

by far

but

losing 2 coaches, your starting ms, hitscan, and backup fs

is a recipe for failure

so late

florida had yaki gangnamjin gargoyle

and were 16th

chengdu could be internally fucked enough to fall to 11-12

[north relic]

chengdu doesnt have a gaping hole

like florida did

[full lichen]

I can't argue but look at their region they auto lose to Shanghai and Seoul and is 50/50 with Spark other than that they kinda hard fuck

[north relic]

shanghai isnt an auto lose

they are beatable

not the indestructible titans they were last season imo

[frosty patrol]

they don’t auto lose to seoul

and shanghai are beatable in individual games

[twin bloom]

Stop being stupid

[frosty patrol]

chengdu are better on tank, about even on dps, and better on support

compared to seoul

[cedar oasis]

who are you?

[cunning patrol]

🤓🤓

[full lichen]

If Jjonak comes back Seoul has better support

[cunning patrol]

Even dps is just no true lmao

[frosty patrol]

if

[cunning patrol]

Also Smurf > ga9a prolly

[frosty patrol]

leave hard gaps anyone on seoul and anyone on seoul gaps jinmu

[plush grail]

who r u

[north relic]

whoru

[frosty patrol]

chengdu better on offtank heroes and half the maintanks

[plush grail]

stfu

[frosty patrol]

we have an ot seoul don’t

[cedar oasis]

stfu

[cunning patrol]

Dawg Smurf prolly plays dva better than riven that guys ass

[plush grail]

uvalo be nice

or i wont play with u

[frosty patrol]

riven is not ass

[cunning patrol]

“Hard gaps”

[frosty patrol]

he’s ass off zarya

[cunning patrol]

Every Seoul dps gaps jinmu much harder than leave gaps then

[frosty patrol]

riven clears in the zarya meta

[frosty patrol]

jinmu > stalk3r but yeah

[cunning patrol]

Hell no

Acc maybe

[plush grail]

legit queostin

why does boston suck so much ASS

[cunning patrol]

Queostin

[plush grail]

im dutch

dont be racist

[cunning patrol]

Ok I will answer your honest question

Boston suck because they are poor and huk sucks

[plush grail]

thanks whomegalul for answering my question

[cunning patrol]

I am more relevant than you

Tbh

[trim shadow]

Atlanta that low?

Where is he

I jus wanna talk

[cunning patrol]

atlanta are winning owl

[full lichen]

I'm right here

[trim shadow]

cmere

[full lichen]

Bro Atlanta sucks dick

[balmy wolf]

💀

Puts mayhem at 3

[frosty patrol]

what part of mayhem makes them top 3

anamo kariv is just bad

majed, their average fs, has visa issues

checkmate aint good

xzi and someone are good but not top 5 or anything

adam sucks ass

hydron is mid

[cunning patrol]

someone is insane

majed doesnt have visa issues but he sucks

[frosty patrol]

yes

I don’t think he’s a top 5 tank

but he’s fucking nuts

[full lichen]

Actually Majed has already made it to America

[frosty patrol]

oh

well

a bottom feeder ms

[cunning patrol]

top 5 overall tank prollly not

[frosty patrol]

below average fs (not bottom 5)

[cunning patrol]

but for mt i think he can be top 7

[frosty patrol]

bad fdps

[frosty patrol]

yeah, definitely

very good hs

god awful offtank

[cunning patrol]

adam wont play

hes playa coach

lol

[frosty patrol]

he’s not player coach

he’s there just in case I think

[cunning patrol]

no he is

[full lichen]

Gunba and McGravy

[unique olive]

LFT EU or any region team to coach
eager to improve players of any skill level
currently high silver to max gold sr but don’t play that much and instead review games (so essentially I have good game sense ) pls reply to this message if you want me

[frosty patrol]

if someone gets testicular cancer

[cunning patrol]

its not

[frosty patrol]

then adam is in

[cunning patrol]

known to the public

but hes player coach lol

[full lichen]

Back cancer

[frosty patrol]

someone xzi hydron/checkmate anamo majed/kariv

is not top 3 NA

[full lichen]

Yes it is

[frosty patrol]

how can you be top 3 NA when your supports aren’t top 7 NA

or top 10

[cunning patrol]

no its not

lol

[full lichen]

SirMajed is great and Anamo is gonna have a really good Lucio Hydron is fucking epic XZI is gonna repeat 2020 and Someone won't have to have the pressure of carrying so he'll play really good with Adam as a great off tank because if he wasn't he wouldn't have had multiple teams after him

[frosty patrol]

anamo is gonna have a really good lucio

majed is great

hydron is epic

adam is a great offtank

[north relic]

#server-news message

[frosty patrol]

sir

[north relic]

are we invading again

the server pubs

[frosty patrol]

you belong in the loonie bin

[frosty patrol]

yes

[full lichen]

Do I really tho Even if Majed and Anamo perform only decently you still have someone Adam Hydron and XZI

[frosty patrol]

ah yes

a bottom 3 offtank and mid hitscan

and anamo isn’t “decent”

he’s

“bottom 5”

[full lichen]

Nah

Anamo above Masaa, Viol2t, whoever plays MS for New York Excelsior, Opener, Cho0r0ong

[twilit oriole]

Your joking right?

[full lichen]

Nope

[twilit oriole]

Viol2t chr0n0g fuck anamo any day

It’s not even a joke

Like they’re tiers above him

[full lichen]

Viol2t Lucio?

[twilit oriole]

Honestly if he can improve a little bit yes

Anamo is dog water

Like honestly

[full lichen]

Then how is he playing his 4th year in OWL?

[twilit oriole]

And chr0n0g is one of the best MS in the league

[full lichen]

Mmmm

Not so sure about that

[twilit oriole]

???

This guy doesn’t know ig

he’s the best support coming into the league since LGJ

Wanna know why tor are performing top 5 in scrims? It’s bc of the Lucio

[full lichen]

So you're saying he's better than Vigilante or Mmonk

[full lichen]

The Mayhem have also been doing good in scrims

[twilit oriole]

Much better LMFAOOOOO

[woeful vapor]

anyone want to scrim 2500 eu 7:00

[north relic]

chorong and vigi/mmonk are different roles

[twilit oriole]

Why are you comparing them anywyas

Yeah

They don’t even have the same roles

[full lichen]

He never specified a role he just said support

[woeful vapor]

if so dm me

[frosty patrol]

chorong is infinitely better than anamo

[twilit oriole]

You can’t compare him to anamo

[full lichen]

I'm just gonna sit back and watch Anamo wreck

[twilit oriole]

Anamo wreck the bottom half of the league

[trim shadow]

https://twitter.com/overwatchleague/status/1518682010549694468?s=21&t=niQC2-isQcnSvcrWV9lXlQ

Overwatch League (@overwatchleague)

Get ready for chaos - the @FLMayhem are about to make headlines with their new roster!

#BringTheMayhem | #OWL2022

Likes

835

Twitter · Apr 25, 2022, 8:03 PM

Top 3 team

[cunning patrol]

he said ms

[full lichen]

Y E S

[frosty patrol]

who do you have below mayhem

[twilit oriole]

Are you a mayhem fan

[frosty patrol]

glads?

reign?

[twilit oriole]

Fuel?

Shock?

Defiant?

[frosty patrol]

outlaws?

[cunning patrol]

shut up both of you

[full lichen]

Yes

[twilit oriole]

I see now

[full lichen]

Fuel number 2

[twilit oriole]

Anyways do not compare the GOAT to anamo the difference is the sky and ground

[twilit oriole]

Show me your PR

[plush grail]

Fuel is ass

[twilit oriole]

Besides sparkle they are🗣‼️

[full lichen]

Doha? Hanbin? Fearless?

Fielder?

[trim shadow]

O we really baking the hot takes today

[frosty patrol]

homie mentions doha and not chiyo or fielder 💀

oh

nvm

[twilit oriole]

Doha is not good bro

Oml

[full lichen]

What about Edison?

[frosty patrol]

edison isn’t either

[twilit oriole]

Edison isn’t too😭😭

[frosty patrol]

fuel have 5 good players

[twilit oriole]

They aren’t good my guy

[frosty patrol]

fearless hanbin sparkle chiyo fielder

doha is good on 3 heroes

[twilit oriole]

Yeah that’s it

[twilit oriole]

Ong

This guy knows his stuff‼️🗣🫵

Reaper is one of them and that hero is insanely easy to look good on

[full lichen]

Patiphan main hiscan for Glads I've heard he's doing really well in scrims

[twilit oriole]

Isn’t pati FDPS?

[full lichen]

No

[twilit oriole]

Ans is the HS no?

[full lichen]

Him and Pati are both HS

FDPS Is Kevster

[manic swallow]

The outlaws gonna win it all this year. I can feel it

[twilit oriole]

💀💀💀

Ok

[full lichen]

If I'm crazy this guy is brain dead

[twilit oriole]

😭

[manic swallow]

They have a good team this season. It’s gonna be a comeback story

[cunning patrol]

you both are

[frosty patrol]

^

you both belong in a long-term psychiatric care home

[cunning patrol]

? hes like the 4th best player on the team

[static pond]

What 3 heros is doha good on?

[cunning patrol]

sombra mei echo imho

[north relic]

his genji is ok

[static pond]

Lmao on YouTube comments people were saying his genji is very good

[cunning patrol]

its not top 15 imho

i will name players if needed

[static pond]

They were acting like he has a insane genji lmao.

[frosty patrol]

sombra mei echo

[static pond]

Did anyone see what they did to tracer butt?

[cunning patrol]

guy copied me 🤣

[balmy wolf]

outlaws overrated

piggy overrated

[frosty patrol]

my dad would like to speak with you

[balmy wolf]

well

i dont

anyways

piggy is not good on anything other then sig

change my mind

[static pond]

I don't know anyone that has overrated piggy

[frosty patrol]

I do

my dad

[static pond]

Besides his dad

[frosty patrol]

any people who aren’t 50+?

no

[plush grail]

Me

[full lichen]

https://twitter.com/judeau19/status/1520616335314587648?s=20&t=EyCXpVZSfnyZZcHVd84QdQ

judeau (@judeau19)

@LAValiant Trust the process, rolling APAC to the bank

Likes

131

Twitter · May 1, 2022, 4:09 AM

[north relic]

@cedar oasis play skribbl

draw it

its a site

[lost thicket]

Sojourn prolly gonna be the next hanzo/tracer

like every hitscan will learn her

unless they're bad

also @willow tartan

who will be better at Sojourn

Lip or Fleta

[willow tartan]

That's more of "who will play her"

like if sombra is mega OP and so is sojourn

then fleta would be the one on her

but if the meta is like sojourn echo

then lip plays the sojourn

[north relic]

does this look like a girl

[cedar oasis]

drawing is hard

[north relic]

SUS

[next mesa]

So obvious

[plush grail]

join us

[next mesa]

Not until u change that nickname i aint

I'm just kidding I'm walking rn

[plush grail]

which one

[plush grail]

never touched grass

[north relic]

top tier drawing

[willow tartan]

you guys suck at drawing

[north relic]

im an expert drawer

uvalo on the other hand couldn't draw a girl

[cedar oasis]

i can

ian on the other hand couldnt draw homer simpson

[plush grail]

u both guessed it so fast

[devout path]

Saving

[cedar oasis]

ian actually drew the fucking yellow imposter guy insted of homer

[plush grail]

ITS THE MOUTH

I NEEDED TIME

[cedar oasis]

the only reason we got it is because it shows how many letters the word is

[hot onyx]

https://twitter.com/reinforce/status/1521221668567326720?s=21

Jonathan Larsson (@Reinforce)

Here we go, end-of-season predictions for Overwatch League 2022.

Slightly higher than most on Boston because of Striker, I think Chengdu takes a bit of a blow from 5v5 and full-time Jinmu, and not convinced by Toronto's tank & DPS line.

Mid-NA is a mess and could go either way

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128

Twitter · May 2, 2022, 8:14 PM

How the fuck

Is someone that analyses Overwatch gameplay for a living

So braindead when it comes to opinions on teams

Boston above Defiant Titans and NYXL?

[worn falcon]

Wash too high

same outlaws

philly top 3

[earnest leaf]

london above titans

[worn falcon]

nice

[earnest leaf]

good one

This is again, why you always got to take OW analyst's takes with a grain of salt

[worn falcon]

always trust avast takes

[willow tartan]

greatest of all time flex support player iris

[north relic]

philly top 3 apac

[willow drum]

im ready for platchats horrendous af predictions tmr

[next mesa]

valiant is gonna be top 4 apac

avast has the worst takes on plat chat btw

he is legitimately so stupid sometimes

[hot onyx]

Not as stupid as someone that goes out of their way to say they don’t have faith in Hotba MuZe Heesu Although but that they’re fine with Punk Marve1 Itsal Victoria Valentine because a TOTALLY NOT WASHED up Striker is going to lead the way to victory

[next mesa]

reinforce has dumb takes

its just the frequency

[hot onyx]

Didn’t Reinforce invest in NFT’s?

[next mesa]

like avast has a lot of dumb takes frequently

no clue

if he did fuck him 😃

also i doubt striker is washed

not that boston is gonna be better than toronto

cuz definitely not

[willow drum]

plat chat has a lotta dumb takes

[earnest leaf]

Avast suffers from heavy recency bias

[next mesa]

agree

his all time lists were absolutely terrible

his list was just "top 10 in this season"

[hot onyx]

He was washed in 2021 since his 2-3 match vs Outlaws?

[earnest leaf]

Striket will do well

[hot onyx]

Ok let’s say

[next mesa]

how does that mean he's washed

[hot onyx]

Hypothetically

[next mesa]

honestly

i dont understand

[earnest leaf]

His hero pool is also pretty underrated

[hot onyx]

Striker is not washed up

[next mesa]

his cassidy was good

[hot onyx]

If he was still a top tier talent

He would be signed by a good team

[next mesa]

not really

[hot onyx]

Not a team that has every player bottom 5 in each role

Best case scenario

[next mesa]

not always

your logic of thinking is like

very flawed

on how teams sign players

like you dont understand how teams sign players

[willow tartan]

chorong went to toronto btw

[hot onyx]

No it isn’t

[next mesa]

it's like you saying why didnt dallas go for mn3 again

your logic is so flawed

there are multiple other factors that go into signing players

[hot onyx]

Yeah well this is different

Let’s look at the other side

Why would Boston

[next mesa]

what if boston just gave him a huge bag

[hot onyx]

Sign a team of absolute dogshit

[willow tartan]

that's where you're wrong

[hot onyx]

And place a single god tier player in striker

[willow tartan]

coaches sign players that they know they can work with

[hot onyx]

12/13 players that Faith was better than last season

Are no longer in the league

[next mesa]

you are assuming that teams sign players of equal caliber every time

when they dont

[willow tartan]

yeah well the coaches see what's going behind the scenes

[hot onyx]

Yeah and one team has to underperform and shit the bed

[next mesa]

omg why doesnt the bucks just sign steph and KD and jokic to put them alongside the bucks

[willow tartan]

if you ever see a team retain a player, there is always a reason why

[next mesa]

they are so dumb!!

[hot onyx]

Why wouldn’t it be the team with blatantly bad players and below average coaching staff

I gotta poop

This conversation isn’t over

[willow tartan]

im not defending his point i'm saying you're fucking stupid

your logic is "why doesn't every team just ditch their roster and sign the best players every offseason"

which is just not how you build a team

[next mesa]

why didnt seoul sign chorong

argh they are so dumb

maybe because toronto made a better deal

a lot of reasons go into signing a player

[earnest leaf]

also player's might want to go to certain teams or not go to others

[north relic]

why didnt they just spend more money tho

[hot onyx]

I could make a full team with players that are currently on the free market equal to current uprising worst case scenario

[earnest leaf]

iirc super got offers to teams like glads and boston/philly, but still chose shock even when he got payed less

[hot onyx]

Clestyn >>>>>>>> Punk

Sado >>> Marve1 Itsal

[next mesa]

because we have vindaim on our academy team lol

[willow tartan]

sell vindaim for money buy chorong

[hot onyx]

Sanguinar >>>>> Faith

[next mesa]

you actually have no idea how roster construction works its so funny

[willow tartan]

you idiot levy

[hot onyx]

I don’t give a shit, doesn’t make the players Boston signed any less dogshit

[next mesa]

You can make all of those arguments for philly as well

[north relic]

why settle for a brig one trick when you can get chorong

[next mesa]

you would make such a terrible GM

its not even funny

[next mesa]

because vindaim is great

im sure they talked with chorong

[willow tartan]

why didnt the chengdu hunters just keep their roster honestly

[hot onyx]

Yes I can, why sign a good average/above main tank in Sado when you could sign one that actively forced rush because he is inferior to his opponents when playing on dive comps?

[north relic]

add 100k to chorong salary to win mid season and get 1m

stonks

[next mesa]

but would you spend a lot of money for chorong or cheap vindaim

[north relic]

spend more for chorong and win 1m in mid season tourney

just simple ez

[next mesa]

GMs do their jobs better than you

[hot onyx]

Why sign Striker and limit his capabilities (if he isn’t washed) onto a bottom 3 team?

[willow tartan]

i would love to see sans start an OWL team

[next mesa]

holy

sans

you are so braindead

plz stop talking 😭

[hot onyx]

If I’m wrong I’ll be proved wrong

That’s not the argument

I’m saying these players

Are shit

[next mesa]

nah

[hot onyx]

And if Striker was still good

[next mesa]

you're assuming the roster that "you" could have made would have been better

when i doubt it

[willow tartan]

sans GM with marble and ian coaching staff

[next mesa]

your strategy is just omg

[willow tartan]

some billionaire needs to make that happen

[next mesa]

why dont i just sign proper finn vigilante chorong and steal hanbin and fearless?? these owl teams are so dumb!!

[hot onyx]

I actually watch Contenders, and pay attention to good players, not the shit that Uprising kept which got 3-0’d by the 2021 Titans

[hot onyx]

There’s a difference

Money plays a part

[next mesa]

you are highkey dumb

[hot onyx]

Clestyn isn’t expensive

Desperate contenders tank player willing to be paid minimum wage for another shot in OWL

[next mesa]

u dont know that

[hot onyx]

Despite being omega talented

[willow tartan]

what if clestyn wants to play in korea

[next mesa]

T1 is a great org

if u think they are starving you would be wrong

[hot onyx]

Not great enough to sign a good main tank

Clestyn Sado >>> Fury Belosrea

But that’s besides the point

Look at the players on Boston

Forget the “haha sans horrible gm” argument

[next mesa]

im sure they looked

at all of the players that u mentioned

TBH

[hot onyx]

And look at the players that Striker is surrounded by

[willow tartan]

yeah but here's the thing sans

why wouldn't they do the obvious move right?

there's a reason

[next mesa]

u are assuming these GMs are like 10 year old

[hot onyx]

Boston

[willow tartan]

boston uprising is a company whose primary objective is to make money

[next mesa]

you are so fucking dumb

holy

[hot onyx]

Was one of the first teams

To finish their lineup

So that argument is irrelevant

[willow tartan]

you are missing the point

[hot onyx]

No you are

With respect

If Striker was still a good player, he would’ve had offers flowing in

Like Proper did

[next mesa]

no

[hot onyx]

So hypothetically

[next mesa]

you're assuming he didn't

when he most likely just chose boston

[willow tartan]

so why is Proper on shock?

we already know shock pays players less than other teams

[next mesa]

sans is so dumb

[hot onyx]

Because Shock has a good reputation for winning

And his former team mates were signed

[next mesa]

by his argument proper should've went to shanghai

[hot onyx]

And they looked like an all around good team

[willow tartan]

with viol2t lucio?

hahahaha

[hot onyx]

That’s not the argument I’m making you miscreant

[next mesa]

yes you are

[hot onyx]

Viol2t brig to be precise

Levy

[next mesa]

"if proper was a good player, why didnt he join the best team"

god

[hot onyx]

I have watched enough OWL and Contenders

[next mesa]

you are unbelievably

DUMB

[hot onyx]

That’s not it

My argument is

If Striker is a good player

Why did he join

The literal

Worst team in the league

[next mesa]

are you striker

because how would we know?

holy

you are so braindead

[hot onyx]

Exactly

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/sheesh-sheeesh-sheeeesh-bro-bruh-gif-22818626

[hot onyx]

No I’m not

[next mesa]

you are speaking like one right now

im not gonna lie

[hot onyx]

I’m looking at the rest of Uprising

Minus Striker

And asking myself

Why would someone (allegedly) as talented as Striker

Join such an awful team

[willow tartan]

many reasons

[hot onyx]

If he wants to win

[willow tartan]

money

[hot onyx]

Money

[willow tartan]

maybe he is like moth

[hot onyx]

Exactly

[willow tartan]

one last season for cash before he retires

[hot onyx]

EXACTLY

[willow tartan]

maybe he likes the players/environment on the team

like pelican to outlaws

[hot onyx]

No human being likes the Boston environment

[willow tartan]

maybe he likes the coaches there

like sado to toronto because kdg

[hot onyx]

Lori has been known to treat players harshly

[next mesa]

sans showing his brainlet again

[hot onyx]

During scrims

Try another argument

[willow tartan]

yeah and maybe he likes that?

[next mesa]

and striker is known to be hyper competitive

[willow tartan]

dont judge a man

[next mesa]

lol

you are so dumb

omg striker joined boston

[hot onyx]

Levy

[next mesa]

he must be super washed

[hot onyx]

I watch enough OW

[next mesa]

💀 💀

[hot onyx]

League and Contenders

To form my own informed opinion on the players in there

[willow tartan]

maybe the shock environment was too lax and wasn't serious enough for him and he wanted to join an organisation strictly focused on grinding

[next mesa]

fuck off

[hot onyx]

So don’t call me stupid

[next mesa]

sans thats the saddest part about you

[hot onyx]

When your takes are the worst in this channel

[willow tartan]

sorry

your opinions are stupid

[next mesa]

that you allegedly watch a lot of VODs

but yet you spew out so much stupid

its kinda impressive

TBH

[hot onyx]

You spew out worse than me

???

[next mesa]

my takes are S tier

[willow tartan]

i'm not even saying striker is or isn't a good player i just think your logic is inherently dumb as rocks

[next mesa]

sorry not sorry

[next mesa]

i agree

[hot onyx]

In your opinion

[next mesa]

striker might be washed

i doubt it

[hot onyx]

And that’s fine

In my opinion

[next mesa]

but saying that hes washed

because he joined boston

[hot onyx]

I am predicting

[next mesa]

is so braindead

[willow tartan]

yeah well fuck your opinion

[hot onyx]

Striker to be washed

[next mesa]

damn

[hot onyx]

WE DONT KNOW ANYTHING

[next mesa]

why did sado join toronto last year

instead of staying on fusion

[hot onyx]

STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DO

[next mesa]

HE MUST BE SO WASHEDDDD

[next mesa]

BRO

[willow tartan]

yeah we dont know if striker is washed or not i never said that

[hot onyx]

ITS ALL PREDICTIONS

[next mesa]

you are literally the one

[hot onyx]

LIGHTHEARTED

[next mesa]

that's acting like you know

"striker is washed"

[hot onyx]

You’re literally the one

[willow tartan]

but what i do know is you're fucking dumb as shit for your reasons behind why you think a player might or might not be washed

[hot onyx]

Throwing around insults like a 5 year old

[next mesa]

"hypothetically if he was not washed" 💀 💀

[hot onyx]

Instead of debating

[next mesa]

im so sorry

you are just so dumb

i cant help it

🥲

learn how to read

or do you want me to help you

here you go honey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UR-l3QI2nE

[hot onyx]

Well we’ll see about that when Boston loses to Titans

Ok Levy you’re just being flat out toxic

[next mesa]

boston is worse than titans

?? what are you on

[next mesa]

he's using the wrong channel

so im telling them to fuck off

[willow tartan]

tell them to fuck off in a nicer way

[hot onyx]

Oh I misread that

[north relic]

notMAN

[next mesa]

how hard is it to read

[willow tartan]

NORMAN

[next mesa]

TBH

im so confused

[hot onyx]

It’s clearly a molehill

[willow tartan]

never seen a woman before IRL

[north relic]

uvalo's excuse was that he was bad at drawing

and complained his prompts were too hard

but im pretty sure uvalo has never seen a girl before irl

[willow tartan]

he probably thinks that girls are an esoteric conceptual abstraction

[north relic]

he also draws all his humans fat

[willow tartan]

based

lives in amerika

[next mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/chika-fujiwara-kaguya-sama-love-is-war-anime-wink-smile-gif-18043249

[north relic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F0D2Vai2Xs

valiant 20th 2 mins in

[next mesa]

bad take

just another day in the office by ATP Overwatch

valiant

top 4 apac

lock it in

[north relic]

bad take
just another day in the office of levy

[hot onyx]

Incorrect, that spot is locked by Boston

I could see Valiant 19th though

[plush grail]

ATP overwatch is a interesting fella

[hot onyx]

Levy quick question

If Nohill signed a bunch of randoms from North American Open Division, where would you rank that roster?

[plush grail]

Also the fact that he has a "scrim articles" link in the description

Throw away the whole vid

[next mesa]

i would say

[willow tartan]

21st

[next mesa]

I dont agree with these signings

but nohill has his reasons

[willow tartan]

NA region is bad

[next mesa]

nohill is

a very smart guy

[willow tartan]

if it was chinese open division then 2nd place (behind shanghai dragons)

[next mesa]

maybe his budget was 13 dollars and a subway sandwich

[twin bloom]

Valiant magicm8ball

[hot onyx]

Yeah but

If his budget was that low

[willow tartan]

Nohill subs himself in

[hot onyx]

Why would he sign more than the league minimum?

Instead of players that are above bottom 5?

[willow tartan]

he single handedly carries his team to victory

every good commander leads from the front and leads by example

nohill doomfist rolestar

[hot onyx]

Nohill great doomfist but how is he gonna carry a roster that is worse than the 2021 Spark?

[next mesa]

he has his reasons

here's the thing chief

i trust nohill

infinitely more than you

sorry

[hot onyx]

Why would he sign a ton of bottom tier dps players instead of investing in a second tank thought?

[next mesa]

because sasin is fucking GOATED

[willow tartan]

when WW3 starts nohill will be promoted to brigader general and chief of the chinese strategic nuclear missile command

[twin bloom]

@next mesa would you support stryder to la valiant

He is better than ga9a

On wrecking wheel

Imo

[next mesa]

yes

but he has 2 learn chinese

[twin bloom]

Good take

Imo

[hot onyx]

If I don’t trust Rush in the Edison Guriyo signings I’m not gonna trust No “can’t sign more than 2 decent players” hill’s decision with Innovation Becky Ezhan Haker Sasin and Coldest

[next mesa]

then u dont trust any coaches

unlucky

[next mesa]

i know

another day in the office by levy

[twin bloom]

Stryder imho is the best MT supahstar left in Contendors

NA contendor

To be precise

[next mesa]

na contender i agree

imo junbin is probably best

overall

[hot onyx]

When Guriyo gets diffed by half of KR Contenders I don’t trust whoever signs him

I trust Glads coaches

With Ans and Patiphan

Because they signed actual good players that performed well in OWL and Contenders to go alongside them

Like they did with Skewed

Took a chance on him and he turned out to be one of the best brigs in the world

What Valiant is doing

[next mesa]

skewed is literally a guriyo signing

[hot onyx]

Is taking a chance on 6 Skewed’s

[cunning patrol]

Stryder is a tier 3 player

[next mesa]

u are so dumb

[twin bloom]

He would be in contendor

[cunning patrol]

He wouldn’t

[hot onyx]

Yeah but here’s the thing

Edison

Is trash

[next mesa]

not even remotely comparable

[hot onyx]

Compared to other hs

[next mesa]

unlucky

[cunning patrol]

So was moth

Imho moth sucked

[twin bloom]

He is the only player on his team

With any sort of talent

[cunning patrol]

The joob was better

[twin bloom]

Oh wait

Jooby>moth

Imh

O

[hot onyx]

Washed up tracer one trick, bottom 3 rookie fdps, bottom 3 rookie hitscan, two players that haven’t played professionally in two years, one of whom didn’t even play at an above average level when he was professional, and “allegedly good” flex support that has been benched for average/below average players ever since he’s been in the league and performed like garbage when he received playtime, aren’t “Skewed signings”?

[next mesa]

no

[north relic]

ok guys im convinced busan nepal dont exist

beta is just the OWL map pool

[hot onyx]

Your takes are dangerous for my mental health

[next mesa]

nohill is the one making these signings

not dpei

unlucky

they are not in the same realm intellectually

[hot onyx]

Yeah and Dpei

As bad of a coach he is

Has a talent for player scouting

[worn falcon]

Imagine not watching Dpei sleeping stream

[hot onyx]

If Dpei was a gm instead of a coach

Glads would’ve been greater last season

[worn falcon]

this is why Shock fell off

no op mental coach

[next mesa]

they have ninek back now

very nice

[north relic]

#removewallhackdiscord

[hot onyx]

#reworkmoira

[cunning patrol]

Shut up

[frosty patrol]

I've had nepal

no busan

[north relic]

schizo chat

[lost thicket]

Bren thinks Stitch 13th best dps ever, EQO 17th, Architect 19th and Rascal 9th

His top 5 is Profits, Lip, Birdring, ANS and Striker

also Diem 8th and Libero 10th

some of these are so weird

[north relic]

wasnt stitch higher than carpe

[sullen berry]

https://twitter.com/melpotsnpans/status/1521245490804928512?t=xL4cZIjXcaZlIcQ1m6FyUw&s=19

melanie🥖 (@melpotsnpans)

Here they are, my final pre season power rankings unless anything extremely notable happens. Feel free to ask me about anything :D

Twitter · May 2, 2022, 9:49 PM

[twilit oriole]

Based ngl

[sullen berry]

When you try your best and somehow New York's Vulcan signing undermines the whole team's performance

You can probably get away with the bottom 6 shuffled wherever you want, but this middle is a stretch

[north relic]

spark a bit higher and its good (assuming they dont bed shit)

NA looks decent but NYXL physically hurts me

[worn falcon]

Just sell OWL slots for like 5m and get more franchises 4hed

ez more teams in league

[frosty patrol]

there has to be a certain 4 teams in the top 4 APAC

out of those

dragons must be 1

then the rest in any order is respectable

[lost thicket]

Garbage

[north relic]

it isnt bad

[sullen berry]

What exactly is so bad about it

[north relic]

i might just have to accept the truth that NYXL arent so good

i would swap paris nyxl

and the rankings seem good

[earnest leaf]

holy toronto copium

[sullen berry]

The optics don't lie, nyxl being higher is as close to my power rankings based on here say and no gameplay to base it off

The Toronto ranking

Higher than the shock kinda hot and spicy for the wrong reasons

[earnest leaf]

I think even toronto simps wouldn't put toronto above shock

[north relic]

toronto simps secretly want to put defiant just below fuel

[twilit oriole]

My brother in Christ I’m willing to put us above dragons what makes you think I won’t put them above the shock

[earnest leaf]

Because I would assume you have some brain cells left when rating teams

[twilit oriole]

Hell nah

It’s torontoszn

[cunning patrol]

toronto are better rn

flameknightt the shock simp saying people are biased 💀

[earnest leaf]

Can't wait to watch proper bend heesu over for 3 maps

[twilit oriole]

Mf thinks shock still the same shock that can 3 peat

[north relic]

i remember all the clowns during last playoffs

"shanghai screwed up shock are going to upset them"

[earnest leaf]

Crusty/ninek/casores> KDG

[north relic]

"shock magic is still there they are threepeating"

[cunning patrol]

no

[twilit oriole]

KDG and mobydik>>>>

Mfs gonna re run Philly s3

[earnest leaf]

ohnonono

[cunning patrol]

that is a very good point flameknightt

[twilit oriole]

That’s a good point but regular seaosn 1 loss was impressive asf

[cunning patrol]

its not a good point

s3 philly were very well coached

[twilit oriole]

The core coaching was legit the coaching staff Toronto has

[earnest leaf]

Still failed to win literally anything

[cunning patrol]

OMG KDG IS NOT GOOD HE COULDNT COACH LASTRO ANSOONJAE MICHELLE AND NA1ST TO TOP 5 NA!!!!

[gusty rampart]

Apparently Toronto tried to get Yaki

Interesting

[twilit oriole]

Ong😭😭

[earnest leaf]

Maybe KDG shouldn't pick mid players smh

[twilit oriole]

Toronto was the most painful org to bid with

[twin bloom]

In what metric

Are defiant bettor

Than shock

[twilit oriole]

Yes

🫵

[cunning patrol]

in the lucio department

IMHO

[twin bloom]

Role fillah

Character

Dps gap

[twilit oriole]

The opinion is correct

[cunning patrol]

in overleague

[twin bloom]

Larger

[twilit oriole]

DPS gap no shit