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no
my recent power rankings had them 5th
actually 4th
This Atlanta simp is so dumb
Why
Edison guriyou double HS
Gonna pound
Edison
Good player
Rush says
He is better than xzi
So he is better than xzi
Guriyo can be good playa
i doubt until they prove it
Even if he is not
They upgrade ms a lot
And one incompetent playa can be carried to #1 na
Dallas did it last year
With bad players like jecksay and doha
Yes
Ok if u look mid on a team with superstars
And god coaching
You are a bad player
mid enough to hold team back
It’s very simple on my opinion
Chiyo god player
Agree
It is a shame
Weak pieces on fuel
They didn’t sign good hs playa
But midison isn't better than doha
Like mn3
So tragic
He is
No he’s bad
H3 boosted
So sad
who is h3
And based
No he just sucks
Name a bad map
Happy former booster
Happy had
Fake
If glads had happy
Flora
Da pe
They would be so good
Agree but only cuz he’s better than ansan
Is better
Shut up
you act like justice is an insult
They just have assas
there is a reason vigilante is on justice
They are a bad team
Bcz
Nobody wants to sign fs
Justice is a super team
Who’s young for 1/2 of szn
Vigilantee had 42 offers
when is his bday
And he chose justice
Like July
He didn’t
I know many teams who did not offer him
Shock
Reign
Chengdu
To name a few
1/2 of the season isnt 1 month in
Shus money crew and falcon esports also gave him an offer
Like an absolute fool
It is 2 months
it isnt there
It is
They did not
Justice are a bad team and it’s factual
Sad really
Unless
Opener can become good (super duper unlikely)
And decay does not cry on bench
Vigilante would be great if he didn’t have a bottom 3 main support
justice are like the low mid NA
If you want to be specific
Opener is bottom 2
I see a world where Opener holds his own against Anamo and Faith
What
i refuse to believe faith is bottom
Where would you rank Faith in s4?
uhh
im gonna need a s4 ms list
probably high B low A
s4 was the leejaegon show
Nisha after 1 stage
and friends
LJG Masaa Jecse FDGod Skewed Moth Yveltal Nisha FunnyAstro Tobi Closer Anamo Joobi ASJ IDK M1KA Dridro Faith Friday Slime Mandu Kellex Fire Highbee
This is terrible
And 3/4 of the lower tier players Faith was higher than are no longer in the league
Moth??
Moth had 15% playtime and looked better
He does not have the work ethic
Or passion
To be above a great like faith
He doesn’t
and boston beat houston
and houston beat shock
and shock beat glads
so titans > glads
Flawless logic
Agreed
It was changsiks fault
Shredlock is bettor than daan
And gapped oje
0n rein
Also gapped mag on rein
I disagree with that statement but I don’t care about any of those players enough to argue your take
Shredlock obliterated daniel
When they played
And one had kaan
And other had ralph
One also had Neptuno alongside busted wrist Ellivote
Ok but one had onigod naga instead of linkzrs washed corpse
And teru on 200 ping
Ok both titans
And paris sucked stage 1
Yet shredlock still obliterated the daaniel
With a slightly worse team
no
Could you make some?
I am bored and want to criticise or agree with your opinions
i personally
did not think about bottom 4 apac
so if anybody has any complaints about it they can keep them to themselves
Spark have ironey
he is good
Supahnich
but does not match up to mmonk or izayaki
Bernar
bernar is terrible shut up
i know sparks roster shut up
On spark
im a big fan of shy
Finally my discord loaded
Why the Spark underrating?
Why the Reign overrating?
Why is Boston above bottom 3?
It’s questionable but there’s aspects I agree with
bottom apac he said he ignored
boston above bottom 3 is based and you cant argue againist reign believers tbh
Boston 20th is baseder
Predicting the shitfall of every player that is “decent on a good team”
Alongside the starting 3 that lost to 2021 Titans
Correction
Boston is not very good overall
Put them against any apac team and they will be lucky to go 5 maps
They are bettor
Than valhalla
post bed shitting spark i bet boston could beat
Ehhhhhhhh that’s a heavy stretch
They beat Valiant in a double fs or double hitscan meta
But if we’re talking Striker Valentine Punk Faith MCD vs Diya Innovation Sasin Lengsa Coldest I give the edge to Valiant
Purely meta dependant in that matchup
Sojourn is projectile, so we look for the likes kevster, ivy
Every role
Pelican can projectile?
?
“Punk is worse than FRDWNR”
pelican can projectile?
And??
Put frd on boston
And punk on titans
No difference
In results
As in can play projectile
i didnt know that
I think if Punk was on Titans they would’ve beat Boston 3-0
Sure dm
And if FRD was on Boston they still beat outlaws
That one time
From @twilit oriole
They’re*
It was more a question, but the dude is hard hitscan
So danteh it is
I mean if doom is tank it doesn’t seem to bad
But
Let’s say the other team counters
They really can’t switch
Hanbin and Fearless on the bench
And will get hard destroyed
Sparple benching Fearless let's goooo
Sp9rk1e zarya
Sparple Hog
More concerning is, why is he on echo
Sad that they didn’t decide to spend the $101,400 that was spent on Midison and Guri-Joke towards a good player like MN3 instead
It is bettor than dogha echo
Doha echo underrated since Sp9rk1e took over
This was stage 2
When fuel lost to shock
In their best
Possible meta
They didn’t take their redbull that day
I’m telling you man
If Jack In The Box wasn’t closed that day
And the Fuel players weren’t malnourished
3-0
Just like May Melee
Ok in my opinion
Reign have some greatness in their lineup
Outside of the main tanker position in a few metas
They are all good playas
In my opinion
Reign has Kai and Hawk that are in the top 5 conversation
Everybody else is not in that conversation
I’ll believe it when I see it
Speedily has impressed me with his mechanics but I want to see him put those to the test against bigger competition
Ojay is
Flex dps is one of like 3 positions on NA
Contenders
That wasn't shit
MT sucked
Besides reiner
LJG FunnyAstro ChiYo CH0R0NG Yveltal
FS sucked besides uv
To name a few
Chiyo is wrong
Top tier analysts agree
I’ll believe Ojees “greatness” when I see it
Ok you will see
Mans out there either diffing Lukemino or getting diffed by FiXa
you forgot rookie of the year frontrunner "FiXa"
Afraid I’m not allowed to show bias
Did not happen
you are talking to reign kng all of his takes is influenced with bias
Alright sorry, didn’t realise you were such a big fan of the Mino
Not that take
Mino is a fraud
Who will never be in owl
Somehow gonna lose his spot to landon
On london
Or Pascal
No
Luke is better than pascal
Would it be a hot take to say that Lukemino on Outlaws would be so much better than Lastro?
It’s a bad take
Ok actually
But thats it
I mean
i mean
outlaws need a ms
His lucio isn't good
I’m just lower on Lastro than Bebe
liquid can win this
Outlaws needs moth
better than lastro's
Lukemino could ms at a serviceable level while popping off on fs better than Lastro
Plus more western company for Danteh
No, lastro > lukemino
Rewatch Uprising Academy vs Bobby Wasabi instead
Is a good match
👍
11-8
Aw yes I love watching 2 minutes of preparing for a 15 second team fight
It was mtd
And HS gap
To watch
hydration is an owl tank
As an honest loud enthusiast
:copium:
no hes been doing fine
That’s like saying when Outlaws beat Mayhem in the 2020 Summer Showdown it was mtd
11-9
UA weren't that good in scrims
Everybody on Wasabi wasn’t trying except for Hydration right?
11-10
If UA didn’t have future ROTY FiXa then maybe
It isn’t
loud timeout
Disagree but I will respect your opinion
@cunning patrol loud wins
I think @reef agate should move to London spitfires as he is the best genji ever
best bastion mate
reinforce was called a madman for calling justice below titans on their worse
lowest justice got 3-0'd by paris last year
It was paris with ellivote
As well
Lol
tbf ellivote wasn't too bad
Gonna be real
I'm on some Washington Justice COPIUM rn
They might actually be good imo
did you just watch plat chat or smth
Nah actually haven't
opener is a huge weakness
Just been showed the light ok Twitter
Washington are gonna be alright
What Memeicus said
you took twitter opinions to heart?
They can take a playoffs spot if someone shits the bed
They have a genuinely good team
the thing is
justice are normally the people shitting the bed
Yes.
Decay, Happy, and Assassin
A little unfair
And with Vigilante coming in
Things will get a little feisty
ignore the gaping hole in opener
Sadge he won’t be able to play till July
yea
true, it’d be hard to stand out much on a team with Happy & Mag even if he was pretty good
Lollll
Assasin sucks
if the chinese OWL orgs spent 2-3 years burning money (because owl doesn't make money
) then they are fine burning money this year too
i dont think that will mean nothing
Tactical crouch always has good opinions
Such as Seoul w jjonak is dragon buster, profit goat, fits goat, etc
If toronto goes mid again this year, they need to fire their GM
they are going to be mid and that's not gonna be their fault
Roster choices that toronto has consistently done is just a sign of an incompetent front office
I can see Atlanta, Fuel, Gladiators, Shock better than them
I'd honestly put nyxl above them
Outlaws and NYXL could be better too
so then its like
being 7th place is mid
just like hangzhou not making any tournaments this year despite having a good roster
2 slots in APAC
KDG
Defiant underrating once again
defiant are mid on every role but support
they are good team
i said that
just that good is not good enough to be better than average
make sense?
Guess I’m the only one that invests in Although and MuZe stonks
put it simply
i do not believe their team as a whole has the ability to reach the upper echelons of overwatch league
can their dps hang?
But the Atlanta Reign does??
can muze decide to play rein?
Friendly reminder that MuZe was under Dpei’s reign and still looked like a top 5 main tank
atlanta is an iffy one
but i have faith in hawk and kai/nero
and their support line should be fine
the big question marks is teams like outlaws and nyxl who dont have complete rosters
Eh I have more faith in Although than Nero
that is where teams like toronto/washington/nyxl could make top 5
of course there is also the opportunity for glads to be shit cause bad dps
so that's another possibility
Gladiators will not be shit
i mean
They will not
shit enough not to win anything
just
Not both, just one
ans could be mediocre and patiphan could be retired from ow 3 months into the season and go back to valorant to win masters 2 berlin
And with the stacked coaching line Glads have this season, I think it’s impossible for them to fail
Yes Pati could go back to val
But hear me out on this
Overwatch 2 is a new game
exactly
patiphan left valorant cause he loves overwatch
what if he doesnt love overwatch 2
gg no motivation
And when Patiphan immigrated from Overwatch to Valorant he was insanely talented
yes i know what you are saying
So he has the mechanical skill
but i am saying that there is the chance out there
somewhere in an alternate parallel universe
where glads are not good
That is the alternate universe where Dpei stayed on the team
didnt dpei leave the team cause he didnt get a big enough budget?
Go on Liquipedia and show me Dpeis current role on the team
if he was on the team the roster wouldve been fearless void leave pelican leejaegon shu
because apparently whatever money he had wasnt enough
Yes but money over coaching structure
S4 Glads were top 3 overall in most people’s minds and Dpei didn’t put up those results until the countdown cup
Exactly
But
They did beat the Chengdu Hunters
Which beat the Shanghai Dragons
I’d call that a win
Muze's flexibility was cited as an issue for s4
They straight up just couldn't run rein comps so they had to develop their own style mid season
He's just sado 2.0
Even looking back at glads matches, it was literally the dps or supports or space making a play
Muze just kinda coasted along
not in anything important
Brb touching cats https://twitter.com/GZCharge/status/1514801792659329033?t=ziAKwnzh6QhWuvSEAtrOQw&s=19
Eileen and Rio went outside to touch some cats...
...For charity!
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Watch their adventure here:
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owlel
@hot onyx One more thing to fix in your announcement post, team name and player name needs to be bolded
Done
Alright, Glads beat Hunters who beat Dallas who beat Dragons in May Melee finals
Easy owlel
Checks out
Using my titans logic
Indisputable
spitfire beat titans who beat uprising who beat eternal who beat justice who beat fuel who beat dragons
spitfire > dragons
I had a funny dream
Overwatch 2 beta got delayed and it turned out that none of the pros ever had access to it
So OWL Season 5 was played on OW 1 and all the teams that have solo tanks and double fs absolutely scrambled for new players
In my dream Fusion picked up Sado
shock - rhyno sanguinar?
And Titans resigned Changsik
Dynasty would not resign Toyou
nyxl - gargoyle slime or something stupid
Why not both Ameng and 800?
And Titans I could see them pulling an EU wildcard like Lullsish or Hades
And Belosrea going to Outlaws
Or maybe YaHo
True
Speaking of Changsik lmao https://twitter.com/owesports_kr/status/1514921505204936707?s=21
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Stole my guesses
Not cool
Eleven days till beta I’m not getting access to
Jokes on y’all I’m already in
Charge your phone
🧢
No cap
Charge your phone
signing up dosnt mean you get in im pretty sure
its not a guarantee
If I don’t get in so that I can make tank players miserable then what’s the point?
It better not be a limited access thing
I did yes
“O2-de”Mf do you life on mars💀
Better than “virgin”
Good one boss
eu cellular company
You are literally from a developing country
Alphayi?
Balls
decay has cancer?
He’s on HGZ
got a 1330 SAT
Big upgrade over Ass assin if true
Haha look, he said the team name
They found the cure to COVID19
Cure to COVID is justice copium
Damn
Imagine having covid
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The end of a really good postseason series, time to binge watch them all
Xzi signed a paper 👀
I signed him
yooooo awesome sauce
"I came back to my hometown" https://twitter.com/xzi_ow/status/1515003412135436298?s=20&t=niiQYqNeP_z_rifCdHTAtg
Dallas Paris or Seoul?
fusion
oh yeah they're lacking in the hitscan department
well im pretty sure xzi isnt born in seoul
and the only other team in korea is fusion
so wherever they are headquartered it must be where xzi is from
T1 headquarters are in Seoul
uh
take your time
are you sure he is saying home town then?
according to google translate yes
"I came back to my hometown"
although
I try switching it around and it says "I'm back home"
Element Mystic disbanded
yes
but its a new game
and contenders is now open registration
he and takoyaki are reuinte
maybe
he united with snillo
and they're happily married in some random forest pickin mushrooms
ratio
agree
ty fellow ape
prx omegalul
Paris is the best choice
Unless Dallas want 5 dps and 3 hitscans
Xzi Glister sounds nutty
But once again Dallas can do the smart option and ditch their subpar shitters for sexy Xzi
Xzi just resting in a Korean village
Yes but assuming he is only willing to play for a Korean team his only option there would be Seoul
Seoul don’t need a hitscan whatsoever
Double hitscan profits is fine
Thoughts on a potential Xzi Fits dps duo @next mesa
Oh dear another Profit ashe apologist
profit Ashe isn’t bad
Fits would play the ashe you twisted chump
ok sure it would upgrade double hs
Seoul don’t really need him though
@sullen berry is Guangzhou Charge Headquarters located in China or Korea?
think for a second
why would he go to charge
who is on the charge roster right now.
Im sorry i love xzi
Who else in apac needs a hs though
But do you guys just hate develop or smth?
No one
Its his fault for not wanting to come to NA, if he did he could get signed
ever heard the saying beggers cant be choosers?
You think he’s going to NA?
No
Maybe I’ll try later
I think he's too stubborn for that cause he has his mind set on staying in korea
if he got over that
and came to NA
Then he would be signed in a heartbeat
Hell fucking dallas would sign him instantly
Dallas throwing 100k in the trash
Houston would sign him
50k*
Could still use Edison for double hitscan
Paris could sign him again, move glister to fdps and bench fucking naga
who doesnt even deserve to be on an owl team kekW
So many better unsigned talents
its a fucking shame how many lft and unsigned players there are
that are just so much better then some signed players
who might never get a shot
because someone like Daan or Hadi is like "WHATS UP FUCKERS"
Kaiser never even got a shot
Tizi only got a shot on orisa
Sasin is in the league over Clestyn Attack Gargoyle F4ZE Sado and 800
Rumoured at least yes
Diya gonna play as tank
Ok hot take, players will switch roles going into new game
and some of yall wont be ready for it
We might see alot of random ppl on tank
Sp9rk1e doomfist leak
Chiyo is a downgrade
is this real? 💀
Sparkle no 1 tank
No he isn't
?
tizi had a shot at benching gesture on monkey
no
Not rly
fake
also why the fuck is everyone playing soldier
they had the roster they wanted
they dropped everyone else
it wasnt tizis fault he got dropped
lmao
He didnt play a single map
Real leak
You can bench someone without playing
Tizi moving to coaching
this is a really bad take and you should feel bad about it
Nyet
Jecse was overhated but ChiYo better
Both matches will be close but I agree w you
Ur too late
Ur preds from drx and prx are void
I was driving home :/ haven’t seen w second of either game
Source?
Maps and scores?
Prx won haven 10-13 drx won bind 13-8 currently drx in the lead 0-4 on ascent
Ok that makes sense
why am i so hype for when speedily and pelican fight EVENTUALLY when a atlanta vs houston match happens
wont be much of a fight
speedy claps pelican
Nice clutch
wtf
Prx r coming back
?
Imagine if they lose after getting a 9-3 attack
no way they choke
Ok at least ot
gun
He had one
GG
Drx r so good
they scared me a little bit
They keep going up like 8-4 and 9-3 at the half then losing 3 or 4 in a row
i have a gf, sans does not
the first one is a lie
im ngl i was gonna pred optic
but i didnt want levy pinging me telling me i was dumb
Yay is so good
you lie about having a gf, sans does not
I have woman
what does playoffs mean what should be done #server-news
na's last hope
playoffs is the end of season playoffs
shut up
also lsd i will give u some scrimmage information
yaki flora good players
rest suck
Will you tell me their sixth player
I’m starting to get on copium that they signed multiple players and are waiting for another big announcement
No ms?
i am fairly sure gnj is ms
Gnj isnt a ms in ow1
I’ll give you some too
Finale diffed propah
Shut up
Okay🥹
Finale is the worse than Patiphan possibly
Finale is the better than the goat profita
Terrible player and whoever signed him should be upset with themselves
He’s gonna be ROY
Trust him!!!
No
Shut up
Your my kid
I own you
Respect me
Wrong
U literally love me
You adore me
Shut up
Your a 15 year old boy that lives in Alabama with his sister
Yes
Why
Smh!
These are my final power rankings only Justice and houston needs to be lower and defiant(sadly) has to be higher
why boston so low
They suck
Florida has greats
Like Majed
Hydron
Someone
Chexmix
Mirror on certain silly heroes
It is not bait