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Toronto really just dropped their whole crew, lol
They took my build around Heesu advice to heart ๐
lip played 1 whole second of bastion this season
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think they meant to drop closer
๐

They're only testing free agency and Joobi isn't worth his spot anyway ๐
you take that back
According to multiple sources, DPS player Young-Woo โFloraโ Lim will be returning to the New York Excelsior next season
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deserved
oh no
tf
bro?
onigod
why
onigod is goated
fuck paris
ill support my homie ian to be a london fan now
bouta try out for dallas
valiant?
no
they had 3 great seasons
and even last year they managed to entertain us
toronto has
3 seasons
with 4 rebuilds
undertandable take
fuck that org
rapel is the fs right
looks like they will never be playing pine
i felt like jesce was good
carried by his team
Jecse is good, but is he championship winning good? Probably not.
when is valiant going to release their team
Dallas implosion part 2 lets goooo
xzi, jecse
I wonder which other teams are dropping people today
who dies next
except for silver3
Fearless
Knowing Valiant, they already ditched them and just wont even bother announcing it
silver3 traded for fate
hopefully never
๐
Shock don't need Pelican if they can keep Nero motivated
i thought nero retired
shut up shitter
or is
:(
He said he'd likely be retiring, but wouldn't rule out Shock changing his mind
proper to atlanta when?
The off season is going to be weird for Tanks most of all
nero not retiring sould be nice he is a cool guy
glads trade muze for fearless
Fearless isn't going anywhere, he has the Dallas cash & his EM buddies
If he wants more money, Hastr0 will pay it
BQB is one of the obvious choices
florida dropped bqb?
Florida rumoured to dropping everyone to make a western roster
Halo's rumours are usually pretty accurate, and Florida is a shit show of an org usually
mn3 become available next season
rip florida
My bet is Florida put everyone apart from Yaki into Free Agency, exercise the option on Yaki just so they can sell him. Then make up a western roster for some strange reason
buy yaki and teach him english
so we getting rippers all around
ripper?
EM break up
Sadge
who has a possibility of replacing jecse?
SF Shock is allowing me to look for offers going into the offseason so after October 9th I will be a free agent.
Please contact me on discord at Twilight#2910 or twilight0208@naver.com if you are interested.
crazy how owl players use discord to find new teams and we use it to shitpsot
hello london fan
This off-season is crazy
he's either getting picked up by a top team or they managed to snag someone like shockwave
the spirit of runaway LIVES ON
hes good enough
is shockwave a fa?
not sure
but shockwave might want to join a eu or na team
hoping for a Philidelphia return to na
doubt
send someone else over there, some other mid team
I'm sure the Reign would love Korea
crazy how silent Vancouver and London are
well like
they're gonna pick up a new team for sure
they're gonna have to plan this shit
if london drops hadi i will burst into tears
Hadi is getting traded for Fate
understandable

also what the heck is going on with stalker
like
he wasnt on geng roster
what's going on
also who are they replacing jecse with
hire ryujehongsexy for dallas
toront oreleased everyone
I saw it all
Toronto/paris cleaning
Xzi/jjecse/pine gone
like that kinda makes no sense
and rapel
Pine isn't gone
Yea
Rapel and Mano too
he is
EU Philly FA
I see no announcements
Twilight FA buy could stay with shock
is he just FA
The one Dallas news reporter said so
I see I see
i wonder how much Pine got paid by Envy to sit in Korea for two months, then get benched for the Playoffs
twilight to fusion ๐
Kilo 
Dreamkazper 
The real question is who is picking up chipsa
Vancouver ofc
chipsa really got dropped the season doom got used
This year doom wasnโt used much other than sparkle
but sparkle doom was amazing
Itโs sparkle
imagine the sparkle vs chipsa matchup
sparple > haksal
guys
im37 > lip
twilight to justice
Granted, but jjanu comes back and benches fury
fury ass
brooo wtf is this
Do you think Shanghai will drop their benched players?
ur mom
No
They retire
I wonder if twilight wants to stay or leave shock
Since I could easily see many teams wanting him
who lmao
Coach
Houston head coach I think
be weird for the first Chinese player to earn an owl gf victory retires during that off-season, rip Molly
he was coach for Runaway Vancouver too
runaway vancouver coached themselves
whatever happened to the 2019 Vancouver roster, why don't they play anymore
shitty org
its called titans management being absolute dogshit and ruined one of the greatest rosters of all time
;-;
not even having translators
they literally dominated, you'd think theyd join another team
When is haksal coming back
when is Linkzr retiring
inb4 gengo deflect beams in ow2
thats the joke
deflect dm
Today is clean out day
Taking out the trash aka onigod
hot take onigod and vestola were good in paris
glad they dropped tsuna tho
wait so is jecse a fa now?
yup
jecse Vancouver here we come
dont
jecse twiglight vancouver
Vancouver is shitty org for koreans.
how long will xzi play for Solaris?
So many people are leaving owl
kiked
And why would aspire leave. He just got a contract
rebuild full korean or going budget
Toronto got rid of everyone
whos left in paris
AVALLA
do you thing millonaires want to spend money in a org which didnt gave enough profits?
lol
they just have to be good y'know
London
the thing is, early seasons all the stuff was controlled by blizz, even the jersey
just recently they let their orgs have their own stuff
and yet not very profitable because ...well pandemic happened too
their big stuff was the homestands
because Robert Kraft cares about the pennies OWL makes him, homestands or not lmao
Robert Kraft owns an eSports team to own an eSports team
literally pocket change to Kraft
im his agent he will only be interested in 3 mil a year https://t.co/RrlZBuqqWJ
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why is everyone on Twitter suddenly a TD fan
td?
t0r0nt0 defiant
also I hope pine gets another shot
its because toronto finally did the right thing and dumped their roster
keeping the only good player (heesu)
he will 1v5 every fight
as hanzo
at the homestands its just one guy on stage
Ok jecse had a good season but he was the weakest player on the team after rapel
so like
honestly
good drop if they can get someone better
but if they can't then that is unfortunate
I don't like dropping him ngl
Despite him being the "weakest link" he still played pretty well
A year of solid synergy kinda tossed out the window
I mean I don't like messing with a guranteed top 3 roster but at the same time if they ever want to break the ceiling and match shanghai again they can't just stay the same
I mean they took out shd once
and nearly twice in the june joust
Shanghai wins out if sombra/ball are hard meta
I guess, but they are super close to being top team so might as well make the upgrade while you have the time, I just think if their ceiling is top 2, why not change the weakest link
Toronto have so many options this off season
exciting to see what they do
They could start strong and snag twilight/yaki
I was thinking myunbong yaki but if they were able to get twilight hell yea lmao
myunbong?
idk I just think they need good solid players, myunbong now feels like how lastro felt at the end of s3, just solid middle of the road loll
Now that the off-season has started, the juice about teams will start to spill. https://t.co/bbgRLoitfd
who is that
logix
logix
ohhhh
lol pine
kinda irrelevant its ayt
w in my book
sounds like dafran to me
its logix.
Rapel
perks of signing some one you probably didnt trial
i thought they say he trial
but was worse than xzi
then xzi dipped so they needed an emergency person
so they took pine because he was second best?
That was in the beginning of the season I thought
yeah
then pine visa issue
so dallas forced to play w/o hitscan
but then they realised they can play better w/o hitscan
so they never sign a replacement for pine since they dont need one
but they cant release pine cause contract
so one season do nothing
thats like free 50k at least
yea cuz everyone else was on a team alr
if he played i bet he would be very mediocre hitscan
alright but not carry
vancouver titan sign him :)
no the only reason why he wasnt dominant is because hitscan wasnt dominant
not the only reason
even if sniper were meta shock player rotation continue to be cock
and then they still lose
ans nero
Since the off-season is already getting so crazyโฆ I might as well throw my hat in the ring. LFT OWL as Head/Assistant Coach.
500
Lol
mcgravy coach valiant
wow only OWL
coach silver3
SF Shock is allowing me to look for offers going into the offseason so after October 9th I will be a free agent.
Please contact me on discord at Twilight#2910 or twilight0208@naver.com if you are interested.
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https://twitter.com/ATLReign/status/1444038696379064330 I think atl stays with gator hawk
has pine even played
i doubt teams will do off season content w players that they plan on dropping
unless things change dramatically
nah
wasnt the super resigning last year called "one last dance"
oh my gosh we DO
YOOOO
CONGRATS
๐ ๐ TRAINEE
bro also how tf do I have like almost 59k messages
gg
oh no
Empathy >>> every mod
truee
so good
now we just need to get empathy to become an admin
we need admin representation
slowly build up ED pieces in the staff team before pulling a violent takeover of the server and forcing everyone to talk about esports 
turn this server into a minecraft server
minecraft esports
when were trainees decided
why im only here for esports
so you can know when the new order arrives
who are we sending next
wait how does empathy have a specific pfp only for this server
is it a new nitro feature
who decides mods
so now we have empathy dragons and hugo seoul
Probably the admins
the overlord
isnt he also a shock fan
understood
itll be funny
man I guess I have been gone too much, who tf is hugo
Hello
idk he has 3k messages total
probably an empathy alt
trying to monopolise ED control
man
its a shock fan we can trick them
shh
im gonna leave if we have to behave
not a shock fan, why do those get mod so often
changsik ๐ vancouver better not drop
championship winner bias
Naw don't worry
I've been here forever
!!joined
You joined on May 12, 2020
when
in esports discussion? i've been here for awhile
I guess I have been lurking here and maining valorant esports too long then
I even know who marbel is but not you lol
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
There's a lot of regulars
I was sort of a regular for a while but now 5v5 exists and I am sad
who tf are u and why do u know me??
I am grike you idiot, I was the guy that had to drag uvalo off you like 3 times a day when he was still here so he wouldn't maim you
dont know u dont care
fight fight fight
uvalos mental is broken
your feelings will never be the same
atlanta got second
hes scared to face me
while nyxl shit the bed
D R A G O N S
?
OOGA BOOGA SHANGHAI MOTHER FUCKER
dragons lame team idc
lose 42 games to get fans then build superteam
big brain lame fucking ass
THEY DROPPED PINE?!
wait i thought ksf retired last season
I'm surprised jecse didn't make it through
wait
at least those played
but who tf is grike?
this is a jab at me not being a regular, I can feel it in my bones
mate
defiant dropped everyone?
except heesu
grike who???
REEEEEEEEE
?????????
ikr
Invisible, just like Houston was the second half of the year
man..only been a week and off season is already going bonkers
tis true
nah that was ksaa
ksaa went to contendies
not even a week its been 3 days
dont care no role dont remember
and everyones getting dropped 
I remember when you were just a no role scrub
not me
feeling pretty good now aren't you
not even hacking takes me out of it, forever invis T-T
who are u and why are u talking to me
ngl
I don't care
we only needed him when danteh got his balls stuck
also what the fuck did paris just drop their entire roster
no
like half
I feel bad now cause I made a joke on twitter that was way to deadpan and now mcgravy hates me :(
your first mistake was making a joke on twitter
true but I still feel bad cause gravy isn't one of those crazy people on twitter
your first mistake was using twitter
how else am I going to keep this channel up to date with OWL news?
speaking of that
I am LFT this upcoming OWL season. It's still my #1 goal and I will put in hard work to be the best player and teammate I can be.
I have 2 years of scrim & official experience and can also lead with shot calling and ult-tracking
Agency: aspen@evolved.gg
Discord: Aspen#6666
just let micheal do it 4head
man all these players getting dropped reminds me when my parents dropped me on my head
u know who grike is?
no
So I dont follow eSports much.
honestly grike just showed up one day and everyone acted like he's been around forever
Did
drop their entire team?
nearly
except for heesu
1 player, 2 coaches
Why?
@digital cloud who are u???
good question
re-build #3 time baby
every time a team has dropped their entire roster, it has not worked out well
im joking lmao im pretty sure grike has been here before this season even started
Toronto has been doing it every season
he's been here for a while
something vaguely to do with OW2
shhh
and resetting for it
are you sure
dont tell him
but they were good this year
what about shanghai s2
good?
and definitely could build upon it
no
hey empathyt
they have always been very mediocre so they decided to blow it up and hope for a good team this time
well they were ok
????
yessir....
????
aspire, lastro, sado def should have stayed
aspire lastro and sado may come back
nah ur done
rapel gon
we should go back to the days when we looked up empathy's bad takes
lets gooo
@willow tartan this u???
sad though
the good old days of yesterday
because great or really even good coaches are rare so some teams just keep rolling the dice on rebuilding teams
maybe the day before
Yeah it is
ahahaahaha
Why are all these players dropping off?
this is my territory
is this normal after a season?
fa day is tomorrow
yes
this is very normal
oh i see
what if i make a lft
who is this
why piss on it when you could keep all the valuable piss to yourself
so basically how it works is that if teams arent going to sign them for next year they are froced to let them go into free agency by tomorrow
where they can explore other options
Another big thing I keep seeing is, these teams are dropping mostly dps picks
player from middle east who plays in EU contenders, flex support I believe
Awww, pine was literally just for hype
There havent been many tank drops?
well they are just doing the obvious drops too rn
jjangu as well
Yeah but a lot of dps
also janggu is basically dropped
still early and i dont think teams know what to do yet
someone do the numbers
yall question
ya?
in the OWL world how are the tanks faring rn?
many teams have 3-4 dps players and they barely ever swap anyway.
like are they excited or
perfectly fine
Lastro?
lastro was kicked lol
most of the pros prolly havent even tried ow2 yet lol
he was cracked
oh fucking duh ofc lol
and even though the tank limit will be 1, i dont expect teams to drop many tank players since none of practice on all the tanks
Mans was bottom tier on any hero thats not zen tf you mean?
flex was a role when rolequeue wasnt in
Blinded by sex big dick smh
oh shit i always wondered
you're going home now > sex big dick
how can you not
hey speaking of
teams definitely drop tanks, it is inevitable when the role is literally halved
you know that game pause at the fifth map between justice and outlaws?
the atlanta dragons finals ow2 break was that but 30 minutes long
and ball
Top 5 funny man bottom 5 flex support
i assume

who will literally never be good
they would have to remove cc entirely and even then
kariv, wya, bebe, roolf, ripa will disagree
i really only expect like 5-6 tanks to be dropped this season
no, because he is an ult battery
but they changed that recently?
you still can hit him lol
true lol
he is free battery regardless of a nerf
he pretty much would have to be cc immune, there be no cc, or have a shield to be useful
or high movement like ball I guess
please don't make hog fast blizzard

what if they just make roadhog smaller hitbox?
Hog goes on Jenny Craig?
whatsa jenny craig
this is the game where high tier hitscans literally predict and then hit a dashing tracer falling mid air in the head
weight loss program
you dont predict with hitscan idiot
you just place your crosshair where they are going
then click
"In order to strengthen the bond and lore of Hammond being in Junkertown once we have decided to give Roadhog a 300 HP shield that automatically activates for 10 seconds on a 3 second cooldown whenever he is hit.
We feel this is necessary because since Hammond has a shield so should Roadhog.
Thank you for playing Overwatch 2." /s
uhhh
do you not see hitscans reacting to tracers and predicting them
they do
it is
which doesnt work on hitscan
you predict them to be there
thats leading
i love predicting my Sigma's rock
what
very fun as a fuck off option
are you telling me leading is not predicting
both are predicting
leading your shots is predicting where they will be
yes
but you don't have to lead to predict
so having good crosshair placement = predicting?
if i know theres a widow around the wall and i place my crosshair on that corner and they peek it
thats not predicting
is it?
you are predicting they go that direction
crosshair placement is about knowing where people tend to be
who ASKED
who ASKED
Pine never played
perhaps jjonak ark support line
unfortunately
poko ๐ค pine
never actually playing
Fusions Poko Pine SBB Aztac Moth
i never watch boston
and i totally forgot about him
i saw boston as fully korean
except for chex
chex punk fusions soon all not korean
I thought soon was gone
he is
whats soon
SoOn
@plush grail https://liquipedia.net/counterstrike/SOON
Michaล "SOON" Wรณjcicki is a Polish professional Counter-Strike: Global Offensive player.
he played on Venatores
woah
london should drop their fs for this guy
LFT OWL ONLY MAIN TANK TO GET 4700 IN THE DREADED EU RANKED LADDER
PUT ME IN THE ENVIRONMENT AND I WILL ADAPT AND BECOME THE BEST I PROMISE
BEST WESTERN WINSTON PLAYER
WILL GIVE EVERYTHING I HAVE TO WIN
RTS/LIKES MUCH APPRECIATED โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
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dont see it
maybe
me
I am LFT this upcoming OWL season. It's still my #1 goal and I will put in hard work to be the best player and teammate I can be.
I have 2 years of scrim & official experience and can also lead with shot calling and ult-tracking
Agency: aspen@evolved.gg
Discord: Aspen#6666
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she never did
but she hasnt played contenders for like 3 months honestly dont see her getting picked
https://twitter.com/wubxii/status/1444052578547994633 wub on the other hand
maybe with the AT Mayhem roster
wasnt aspen benched anyways before she retired from contendies?
i stg someone played over her
or maybe im thinking of a wrong person
it was the support
aspen hasn't retired every I think
Most recently she got third place with dark mode as a main support 
honestly i think if soon comes back in a 1 tank dps heavy meta he might peak again
wow maybe they sign cucumber instead of false
spent 1 hour in queue only to lose 
pls bozzard remove 2cp already we know its gonna be gone
gotta make sure your final moments with it are the worst ones
I've been trying to set up a Minecraft modpack to get back into the swing of things but due to my less than average intelligence I've been having trouble resolving the ticking issues caused by the modpack ('Cause 1.16 mods atm are mostly in beta/alpha so it's expected.)
I may just wait for 1.18 release and for mod developers to update to stable releases.
My friend group did a 1.17 vanilla to set some rules for 1.18
Every server we've played together, it lasted a week before everything got griefed
I would think that "Don't grief" would be the first rule you'd think of...
Friends don't let friends grief 
I love modded MC, sadly haven't been able to play it lately cause of stuff I have to do. usually played 1.12 cause its the most developed version
ok back on topic, lets all trash toronto for breaking my heart today :(
is there a place to look for SEA teams?
now there no owl im itchin for organised play
SEA?
south east asia
so they wouldnt wanna keep their team
I see
u mean where patiphan would've been farming if he hasnt moved to OWL ๐ฅฒ
I agree with that, although I feel they could have kept more than heesu
not even
theres no pro scene here
everyone just go to korea
and i dont speak korean so i cant just join a rando OD team cause theres no od here
korean master race
yes I know
Are these new casters? I can't quite place my finger where they're from.
They join earlier in the year or?
https://twitter.com/Reiner_OW/status/1444046348337156097 THE BEAST HIMSELF
LFT OWL MAINTANKER
DOMINANT BEAST IGL. MECHANICALLY GIFTED.
CAN PLAY ALL MAINTANKS (INCLUDING HOG)
OPEN TO APAC OFFERS, WILLING TO LEARN CHINESE AND KOREAN.
VODS AVAILABLE ON DEMAND/REQUEST/INQUIRY
DMS OPEN ON TWITTER
DISCORD: Reiner#7960
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LMAO
so why lmao then
isn't he like good or something
like, at least by western standards
beasthalo?
WHO
ru
so houston is rebuilding
they also let go to one of their coaches
yeah
@tropic herald
Should be one or two more
just mod mail 

LITTLE DOES HE KNOW CHINESE IS FUCKING HARD TO LEARN
i started this year and im getting fucked
something tells me he's much more likely to get a korean team then chinese
Imagine Atlanta picks up jjangu though ๐ณ, pelican and friends go hard
I cannot believe they let jjanggu and joobi go
am I crazy
were they worse than I thought
joobi maybe wasn't quite there yet but cmon
Joobi there's bound to be far better Korean talent ready and waiting, not sure about jjangu though considering his success

The question now remains whether they keep dreamer or not
jjanggu was better than dreamer in all respects
this hurts me
why houston
we finally had a winning year
and this
Dropping jjanggu was braindead

jjanggu piggy were fucking elite pickups
They fielded Muma at main tank for three years idk why we thought the tank coaching was good there ๐
the fuck is going on with the texas teams 
dallas drops were pretty reasonable
they can always upgrade the supports, and xzi I think doesn't want to stay in na
Yeah jecse Rapel Xzi pine all make sense with new talent coming in and three of them being benched anyway
pine not sure, but I didn't have much faith in him
not that he wasn't elite a few years ago but times have changed
"The first collegiate OW player signed by an OWL team."
And the last.
I mean wouldn't pine have to go back home for like half a year and wait until next season and he just got here so it kind of makes sense paperwork wise I think
idk
but the houston drops were bad, the dallas ones largely made sense
jjanggu was hugely talented
Besides now hz have their new double sniper meta player ๐๐
his rein was definitely s tier
ok time for aprita gameplay
Pine Shy dps line ez ๐
and joobi had an insane lucio, and probably could have improved on other stuff
but no, we keep coach jake, and drop the best tank and best lucio we ever had
unless we count having smurf for a while I guess
Idk man I think you're too high on Joobi stonks, he wasn't awful but there's far better talent just waiting in the wings in Korea that could be the next skewed ๐
you really think we are gonna get a better talent after we dropped jjanggu
at least we had a fucking good lucio for once
Also gz should sign Xzi ๐ that would literally fix their team, sign Xzi or godsb and two rookie supports 
NOOOO JOOBI IS GONE
and jjanggu
why did they get rid of jjanggu
they are idiots
this is the first season their tankline wasnt awful
In before someone like Toronto has Crimzo in their backline
because piggy is gonna be the tank player for OW2
mek0 ๐
oh god I forgot they ruined meko
piggy is new meko
they ruin him with no good mt partner
luckily thereโs only 1 tank now

https://twitter.com/Twilight_OW/status/1444010047290314754 what the actual fuck are the people in sfshock thinking
SF Shock is allowing me to look for offers going into the offseason so after October 9th I will be a free agent.
Please contact me on discord at Twilight#2910 or twilight0208@naver.com if you are interested.
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Okay maybe locking genji sometimes works in contenders
contendies got necros 
still feel like they're making it harder for themselves though
Just to have a fair fight ๐
Playing nanoblade is putting all your eggs in one basket and I guess chaser really only has one egg
Dropping jjangu
Damn outlaws
Imagine twilight to dallas
gachiBass
Just don't hire him in outlaws pls
Twilight to Dallas would make him repeat his last two years of benched or co owning starter slot but man Dallas would be stacked lmao
I mean is twilight better than fielder on anything other than Ana maybe
Shhh
vancouver buys all shanghai coaches and players








